TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 8, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:06:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE THURSDAY, JANUARY 8, 2026, COUNCIL
SESSION.
I AM NOT ALAN CLENDENIN.
I ALSO APPARENTLY NOT AS FUNNY AS HIM.
HE IS NOT WELL, SO HE'S GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY
TODAY.
SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW.
HE WILL BE PARTICIPATING BUT JUST VIRTUALLY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH INVOCATION, BUT BEFORE WE
START WITH THE INVOCATION, WE ARE ALL GOING TO STAND FOR A
MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR RENEE GOOD AND THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE
OF MINNEAPOLIS.
[MOMENT OF SILENCE]
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE TODAY'S
INVOCATION.
9:07:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

RABBI SIMON, COME ON UP.
ALL OF US KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HERE BEFORE.
BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, RABBI JOEL SIMON ORIGINALLY JOINED
CONGREGATION SCHAARAI ZEDEK IN 2007 AS ASSISTANT RABBI,
BECOMING ASSOCIATE RABBI IN 2010 AFTER SERVING THREE YEARS
AS SENIOR RABBI OF CONGREGATION IN BUCKS COUNTY,
PENNSYLVANIA.
RABBI SIMON RETURNED IN SCHAARAI ZEDEK IN JULY 2018 AS
SENIOR RABBI.
RABBI SIMON GREW UP IN DENVER, COLORADO AND HOLDS DEGREES IN
PSYCHOLOGY AND JEWISH STUDIES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA
HONORS COLLEGE, A MASTER OF EDUCATIONAL ADMINISTRATION WITH
SPECIALIZATION IN JEWISH EDUCATION FROM XAVIER UNIVERSITY.
AND BOTH A MASTERS OF ARTS IN HEBREW LETTERS DEGREE IN
RABBINIC ORDINATION FROM THE HEBREW UNION COLLEGE JEWISH
INSTITUTE OF RELIGION IN CINCINNATI OHIO.
AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SOUTH TAMPA, HIS CONGREGATION IS ONE
OF THE MOST IMPORTANT IN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE SCHOOL IS THE
ONE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET IN.
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
EVERYBODY STAND FOR THIS AND THE PLEDGE.
9:08:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
9:08:30AM >> CITY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME THIS
MORNING.

I WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
SUCH AN HONOR TO JOIN YOU ALL, OFFER WORDS OF BLESSINGS AND
LESSONS FROM OUR TRADITION AS YOU ALL GATHER TO LEAD THIS
GREAT CITY.
IN THE JEWISH RELIGION, WE READ THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE
BIBLE -- GENESIS, EXODUS, LEVITICUS, NUMBERS, AND
DEUTERONOMY -- FROM BEGINNING TO END ON A YEARLY CYCLE,
READING THE ENTIRETY OF THE FIVE BOOKS EVERY YEAR.
IN EVERY SYNAGOGUE AROUND THE WORLD ON A GIVEN WEEK,
EVERYONE IS READING THE SAME SECTION.
THE READING FOR THIS WEEK IS THE BEGINNING OF THE BOOK OF
EXODUS, AS MOSES, A HEBREW WHO WAS RAISED IN PHARAOH'S
PALACE, SEEING OPPRESSION, KNOWING THAT IT WAS WRONG WAS
CALLED BY GOD THROUGH THE VOICE OF A BURNING BUSH TO LEAD
HIS PEOPLE TO FREEDOM.
BUT MOSES DIDN'T WANT THE JOB.
HE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS UP FOR THE JOB.
HE WAS JUST A SHEPHERD, ONE OF SLOW SPEECH, PERHAPS WITH A
STUTTER AT THAT.
MOSES HAD EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD TO THINK HE COULDN'T DO
THE JOB BUT GOD HAD FAITH IN HIM AND THAT WAS ENOUGH.
OUR GOD AND GOD OF OUR ANCESTORS, MAY OUR CITY'S LEADERS BE
INSPIRED BY THESE LESSONS OF MOSES.
RECOGNIZING FIRST WHAT IT MEANS TO STAND IN HUMILITY, TO
WORK FROM ONE'S POSITION FOR ONE'S PEOPLE, NOT OUT OF

ENTITLEMENT BUT OUT OF OBLIGATION AND WITH A PURPOSE.
MAY WE ALSO REMEMBER THE ABILITY OF EVERY PERSON TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE NOT IN SPITE OF THEIR ADVERSITY, OF THE
CHALLENGES THEY MAY FACE, BUT BECAUSE OF THEM.
FOR THOSE CHALLENGES ARE GIFTS AS WELL, AS THEY STRENGTHEN
US AND INSPIRE US TO TRY THAT MUCH HARDER.
MAY THIS YEAR OF 2026 BE A YEAR OF GROWTH FOR ALL OF US AND
OUR CITY, GROWTH IN KNOWLEDGE, GROWTH IN COMPASSION, GROWTH
IN UNDERSTANDING OF THE OTHER.
A YEAR IN WHICH WE COME THAT MUCH CLOSER TO HOMES, TO A
COMMUNITY AND TO A WORLD LIVING IN PEACE AS WE SAY AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:10:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE WONDERFUL WORDS
THIS MORNING.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:11:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:11:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:11:03AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:11:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:11:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:11:08AM >> CLENDENIN?
9:11:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:11:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:11:10AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:11:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND DO A -- MR.

SHELBY, WE NEED TO APPROVE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S
PARTICIPATION.
9:11:25AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:11:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO ALLOW OUR CHAIR TO PARTICIPATE
VIRTUALLY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
9:11:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD YOU THEN BE PASSING THE GAVEL FOR YOU
TO CONDUCT THE MEETING?
9:11:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, LET'S HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
HE'S MUTED.
9:11:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
HAPPY 2026 FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S NOT SICK, WHICH I THINK IS
SOME OF THE MINORITY IN TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
I WAS GOING TO COME IN, BUT I REALIZED I WOULD GET EVERYBODY
ELSE SICK AND DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TO EVERYBODY.
YES, I WILL GLADLY PASS THE GAVEL TO MY CHAIR PRO TEM.
9:12:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES THAT NEED TO BE A MOTION, MR. SHELBY?
NO.
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GAVEL ACQUIRED.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO -- CAN SOMEONE DO AN ADOPTION OF THE
MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR SESSION HELD ON DECEMBER 8, 2025?
-- 18.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND ITS ADDENDUM.
RIGHT NOW FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA, I HAVE ITEM 32 FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
YOU WANT TO PULL THAT.
YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF STAFF REPORTS?
9:12:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T CARE WHAT ORDER.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PULL IT FROM CONSENT SO WE CAN DISCUSS
IT.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE HAVE A RULE
THAT A SUMMARY NEEDS TO BE EXPLICIT AND THE SUMMARY DOES NOT
INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE PROJECT THAT THIS IS CONNECTED TO.
BY THE WAY, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THE
ADMINISTRATION CHANGED THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, SO PEOPLE
ARE CONFUSED BY IT, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T -- BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
EVEN HAVE THE NAME OF THE PROJECT IN THE SUMMARY, I THINK
THE PUBLIC HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.

BUT AT LEAST WE CAN CONTINUE IT -- I MEAN, MOVE IT TO A
DISCUSSION LATER.
BUT REALLY, WE SHOULD CONTINUE IT.
9:13:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE IT -- TO PULL IT -- I DON'T NEED A
MOTION TO PULL IT, DO I?
9:13:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
TO REMOVE IT FROM THE CONSENT DOCKET AND PLACE IT UNDER
STAFF REPORTS.
9:13:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 32 FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER CARLSON.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
TO STAFF REPORTS.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OKAY.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER
57 TO BE HEARD FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:14:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, IF I MAY -- YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT
WILL TAKE TOO DARN LONG BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
FIRST OR SECOND, BUT AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA IF I MAY.
9:14:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO TO MOVE ITEM 57 TO THE TOP OF STAFF REPORTS.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
WE HAVE NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
I HAD A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 45, 46 AND 48 AFTER 59.
BUT WHAT I ACTUALLY WANT TO DO IS PUT 59 BEFORE 45, 46 AND
48.
IF SOMEONE COULD MAKE THAT MOTION FOR ME.
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO MOVE ITEM 59, I
SUPPOSE IT WILL BE RIGHT AROUND AFTER ITEM 57 OR 32, IN THAT
VICINITY.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
AS FAR AS ITEM NUMBER 47, WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO
CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO FEBRUARY 5.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 49, DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:15:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU COULD ANNOUNCE THAT PUBLICLY.
9:15:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 49, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE STAFF FOR
THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 50.

ANYONE?
WE DO NOT NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
THE DECREASE OF 4.5 MILLION, BY THE WAY, IS GOING INTO NEW
GENERATORS, NEW TURBINES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT WE'RE SAVING.
ITEM NUMBER 51, DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:16:06AM >> NO.
9:16:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ITEM 52, DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:16:12AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:16:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
9:16:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CHAIR.
9:16:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 52, WE DO NOT NEED STAFF.
9:16:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, REMINDER, PLEASE, AT THE END OF
YOUR CONSENT DOCKET.
9:16:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHY I'M WRITING THEM DOWN.
9:16:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:16:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 53, I BELIEVE WE ALREADY
DISCUSSED THAT.
WE'RE MOVING THAT -- NO, THAT WAS 57.
9:16:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, SO FOR 53,
I THINK I SENT A MEMO, YES, MA'AM, ON IT.
IT PRETTY MUCH MAKES THE POINT MOOT.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS IT, IF I MAY, BEFORE LUNCH, BECAUSE I
SAW WALK IN A GENTLEMAN WHO IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR IT,

ASSISTANT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE CHIEF MORRIS LOPEZ
SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.
IT WILL LITERALLY TAKE TWO MINUTES.
MAY I DO THAT BEFORE LUNCH?
9:17:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
9:17:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
AND NO STAFF.
9:17:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO STAFF FOR THAT.
I'M GUESSING WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT IT AFTER OUR SECOND
READINGS THEN, IDEALLY.
LET'S KNOCK ON WOOD THERE.
NO STAFF FOR 53.
WHAT ABOUT 54?
9:17:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT WAS THAT?
9:17:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
54.
9:17:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
REPORT IS FINE.
9:17:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
55?
YES.
OKAY.
DEFINITELY.
56?
YES.
WE WANT STAFF FOR 56.

58?
9:17:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS TO FEBRUARY 5 PER
STAFF REQUEST.
9:17:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 59?
I ALREADY MOVED THAT FORWARD.
ITEM NUMBER 60, YES, STAFF WILL BE PRESENT FOR THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 61.
9:18:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT.
I GOT A BRIEFING ON THAT.
THAT WILL COME UP IN THE FUTURE IN SOME FORM.
I'LL BRING IT UP THEN.
9:18:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM NUMBER 61 BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE CONSENT AGENDA?

9:18:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, FOR 57, I AM REQUESTING THAT STAFF
BE THERE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
WE'LL DISCUSS IT DURING LUNCH, BUT I PREFER STAFF TO BE
THERE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
9:18:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:18:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:18:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
ADDENDUM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MR. SHELBY.
9:19:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM AND THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT TODAY'S MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING AFTER THE CEREMONIAL
ITEMS TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL

TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT PREFERENCE IS GIVEN DURING GENERAL
PUBLIC COMMENT TO THOSE SPEAKERS SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEMS
FIRST FOLLOWED BY THOSE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO OFF
AGENDA ITEMS.
NOW, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
START OF THE MEETING, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND
PLACE IT IN THE BOX THAT'S OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, ONE CARD
PER SPEAKER.
CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME, BY
THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK AS I SAID, A THREE-MINUTE
TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
NOT BE CALLED.
NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, IF YOU
LOOK AT THE AGENDA, THERE ARE THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT YOU
MAY BE HERE FOR THAT ARE LISTED AS PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, DO NOT FILL OUT A CARD.
INSTEAD, THERE IS A SHEET AT THE PODIUM OUTSIDE.
PUT YOUR NAME ON THAT SHEET AND YOUR NAME WILL BE CALLED IN
THE COURSE OF THE MEETING WHEN THAT PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA

ITEM IS OPENED AND YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
9:20:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY, THOSE ARE ITEMS 36, 37, 38, 39,
40, 41, 42, AND 43.
9:20:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC
AND FOR MY REMINDER TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO PEOPLE'S
ATTENTION AS WELL.
AS THE CHAIR SAID, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THEN WILL BE
DURING THE MEETING AND NOT AT THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT FIRST BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE
CITY COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THE PUBLIC, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES
NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.

THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:21:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I APOLOGIZE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT CHIEF BENNETT IS NOT
AVAILABLE TODAY.
INSTEAD, MS. McGREGOR WILL BE HERE.
THERE IS NOT A STAFF REPORT, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT,
OR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, BUT SHE IS HERE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE SOMEONE FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION IS HERE TODAY.
OKAY.
SO WE GET TO START OFF WITH OUR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH
COMMENDATION.
SO VERY EXCITED THIS MORNING, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:22:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
WE WILL BE DOING OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, WE DO THIS TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THAT ALWAYS SUPPORTS
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS VERY, VERY WORTHY HONOREE WE HAVE
HERE DR. CHIEF BERCAW.
COME FORWARD, SIR.
9:23:04AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

AS WE BEGIN THE NEW YEAR, THERE IS ENCOURAGING NEWS ACROSS
THE NATION.
EARLY ESTIMATES SHOW THAT MURDERS ARE DECLINING BY AN
AVERAGE OF 20% NATIONWIDE.
THAT MATTERS.
THAT'S PROGRESS, BUT IN TAMPA, NOT ONLY DO WE DO THAT, WE
PUSHED PAST IT.
IN 2025, TAMPA RECORDED 19 MURDERS, THE LOWEST NUMBER IN
OVER HALF A CENTURY AND WELL OVER 40% FROM THE YEAR PRIOR.
NONFATAL SHOOTINGS DROPPED BY APPROXIMATELY 35% AND PROPERTY
CRIME CONTINUED TO DECLINE AND OUR HOMICIDE CLEARANCE RATE
REMAINS ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
TAMPA DIDN'T SIMPLY FALL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE BROADER
NATIONAL TRENDS; WE OUTPERFORMED THEM.
THAT WORK STARTS ON THE FRONT LINES.
THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WEARING THE TAMPA POLICE BADGE ARE
THE FOUNDATION OF THIS PROGRESS.
THEY ANSWER THE CALL EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.
THEY RUN TOWARDS THE DANGER AND THEY TAKE REAL-LIFE RISKS
INTO REMOVING VIOLENT OFFENDERS FROM OUR STREETS.
WE RELY ON THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, THEIR COURAGE, AND THEIR
COMMITMENT.
WITH TOMORROW BEING LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DAY, I
WOULD LIKE TO START EARLY AND APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR TAMPA
POLICE OFFICERS FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO, AND THEY ARE

MAKING A REAL DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IN ADDITION, TAMPA SAW DOUBLE-DIGIT PERCENTAGE REDUCTIONS IN
AUTO THEFTS AND AUTO BURGLARIES.
MOREOVER, TRAFFIC FATALITIES DECLINED BY MORE THAN 20%.
AND THIS IS A GREAT STAT, DUI RELATED DEATHS DROPPED BY AN
EXTRAORDINARY 75%.
THOSE AREN'T JUST STATISTICS, THOSE ARE LIVES SAVED.
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ENFORCEMENT IS TRUST.
STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT OPTIONAL;
THEY ARE ESSENTIAL.
THIS IS EVIDENT IN MANY ASPECTS, INCLUDING THE INCREASED
PARTICIPATION WE'RE SEEING IN NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AND THE
MORE REQUESTING, AND ANOTHER IS OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR
YOUTH.
AND THAT BRINGS US TO OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH TODAY.
CAITLIN PARRISH IS OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND SHE IS A
VALUED MEMBER OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SHE IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE AS
POLICE EXPLORER POST ADVISOR AND OUR EXPLORERS, SOME OF THEM
ARE HERE TO SUPPORT CAITLIN, THEY ARE 14 TO 20-YEAR-OLDS
THAT ARE ASPIRING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS A ROLE THAT REQUIRES LEADERSHIP, ORGANIZATION, AND
OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT.
CAITLIN MANAGES TRAINING, SCHEDULING, SUPERVISION, AND

COORDINATION, WHILE ENSURING THE PROGRAM OPERATES SAFELY AND
EFFICIENTLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH DEPARTMENTAL STANDARDS.
UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, THIS PROGRAM HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED.
OFFICER PARRISH ALSO OVERSEES THE PLANNING AND EXECUTION OF
STATE-LEVEL EXPLORER COMPETITIONS, HOSTED BY THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT, OF WHICH WE HAVE HOSTED THREE CONTINUOUS
ONES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND WE REMAIN IN THE TOP TEN
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL AWARDS
RECEIVING FIRST-PLACE TROPHIES.
THESE EVENTS TAKE MONTHS OF PREPARATION, CAREFUL
COORDINATION AND EXECUTED SO WELL THAT THE FLORIDA
ASSOCIATION OF POLICE EXPLORERS HAS REQUESTED AGAIN TO
RETURN TO TAMPA AS THEIR HOST.
OFFICER PARRISH GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND IN HER SCHEDULING
HOURS, ADJUSTS HER AVAILABILITY, AND ACCEPTS ADDITIONAL
RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT HESITATION.
HER DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND COMMITMENT TO
SUPPORTING OTHERS TRULY REFLECTS THE BEST QUALITIES OF A
TAMPA POLICE OFFICER.
THROUGHOUT HER CAREER, SHE HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED
PROFESSIONALISM, ACCOUNTABILITY AND DEDICATION IN THE
PERFORMANCE OF HER DUTIES, AND SHE PERFORMS EVERY ASSIGNMENT
WITH SOUND JUDGMENT, STRONG WORK ETHIC AND COMMITMENT TO
EXCELLENCE THAT REFLECTS POSITIVELY ON THE DEPARTMENT AND
THE YOUTH SHE IS MENTORING AND FOR HER CONSISTENT

PERFORMANCE, LEADERSHIP, AND COMMITMENT TO THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT, SHE IS TRULY DESERVING OF THIS AWARD AND
CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
WE SEE HERE SOME WONDERFUL YOUNG POLICE EXPLORERS.
I SAW YOU ALL OUTSIDE.
GREAT REFLECTION ON THE WORK YOU DO.
VERY TOUCHING.
I MEAN THAT.
BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU AND HEAR FROM TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL, WE HAVE FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY, STARTING WITH THE
PBA WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR YOU.
9:28:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST A QUICK REMINDER, PLEASE FACE THE PODIUM
SO THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU.
9:28:07AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
OFFICER, WE'RE PRESENTING YOU THIS PLAQUE FOR A JOB WELL
DONE.
9:28:13AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:28:15AM >> ALSO, ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, PETE BREVI COULDN'T BE
HERE TODAY, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOUR COMPLIMENTARY BUSCH
GARDENS PASSES.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

JILL WITECKI, TAMPA THEATRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING AN INSPIRATION TO THE YOUNG
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, LIKE TO PRESENT WITH YOU AN
ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO COME SEE US.
9:28:40AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MARY DILLON, STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF STRAZ, WE HAVE TICKETS TO SEE THE UPCOMING IN
FEBRUARY.
I SAW IT TWICE LAST YEAR.
IT WAS FANTASTIC.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:04AM >> HI.
GOOD MORNING.
CASEY YOUNG, FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK.
WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A RIVERWALK PAVER.
CONGRATULATIONS AS WELL AS GOODIES FROM OUR BOARD MEMBERS,
INCLUDING SPLITSVILLE, FLORIDA AVENUE, PIRATE WATER TAXI,
LOST PEARL AND YACHT STARSHIP.
9:29:21AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:29:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

JEFF, VICE PRESIDENT OF MARKETING FOR THE 1905 FAMILY OF
RESTAURANTS.
MY HONOR TO PRESENT A GIFT CARD ON BEHALF OF THE FOURTH AND
FIFTH GENERATION OF THE GONZMART FAMILY.
CELEBRATING 121 YEARS.
YOUR WORK WITH THE YOUTH REMINDS ME OF GEORGE GUIDO WHO
WORKED FOR US FOR 62 YEARS, CAME TO US AS 15 YEARS OLD AS
AT-RISK YOUTH AND MADE A LIFE IN THE RESTAURANT.
STARTING OUT EARLIER AND YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK AND I
WANTED TO THANK HIM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:30:07AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:30:09AM >> WE WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR MENTORING
THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO SERVES.
YOU ARE ALL AWESOME.
I'M TALKING IN THE MIKE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, LYNN.
REALLY IMPRESSIVE STORY.
AS A MEANS OF THANK YOU, WE'RE PRESENTING YOU WITH ANNUAL
MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO.
YOU CAN GO ALL YEAR WITH YOUR FAMILY.

I'M VERY INSPIRED BY YOU BUT ALSO VERY INSPIRED BY WILDLIFE
AND CONSERVATION.
I HOPE YOU GROW TO SHARE MY PASSION.
MARK WILL SHOW YOU THE BEAUTIFUL GIFT BASKET.
9:30:39AM >> WE HAVE A WOLF.
JUST LIKE YOU, WOLVES ARE VERY GOOD AT MENTORING THE YOUNGER
WOLVES.
ALPHA FEMALE AND ALPHA MALE.
THE ALPHA FEMALE REALLY IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PACK AND
GETTING THE YOUNG ONES UP TO SPEED.
9:30:57AM >> THANK YOU AGAIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
LEO GEARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS, OFFICER PARRISH.
I SAY THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME I'M UP HERE AND WILL CONTINUE
TO SAY THIS, I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
YOU GUYS THAT PUTS THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY AND KEEPS
THE CITY OF TAMPA SAFE FOR ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM HERE
TODAY.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I WANT TO HAND YOU A LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY ALONG WITH A
GIFT CARD.
AND ALSO A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
MAINTENANCE AND OTHER GOODIES IN THERE AS WELL.

9:31:36AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CHIEF.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
THANK YOU.
THOSE STATS YOU READ OFF ARE IMPRESSIVE AND CREDIT TO
EVERYONE IN THE ROOM FROM COUNCIL ON DOWN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
BUT YOUR STORY IS REMARKABLE.
THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU PUT OUT
AND THE MENTORSHIP AND WHAT YOU DO TO BRING UP THE NEXT
GENERATION.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC, ANYBODY WHO GOES OVER
AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
I HAVE YOUR VERY OWN GAME BALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NO FUMBLE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEVE MICHELINI.
YOU'RE STILL SMILING.

I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU FROWN.
ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
ARE FOLLOWING UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
YOUTH IS THE KEY TO THE FUTURE.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND HELPING TO GUIDE
THEM.
ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO, PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT CERT
TO ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
ON BEHALF OF DAILY EATS, WHICH IS THE CRG CICCIO RESTAURANT
GROUP, ENJOY YOURSELF, BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER.
BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK, PROVIDING YOU WITH A
GIFT CERTIFICATE.
YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE LUNCH OR DINNER.
AND THEN ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE, I ALWAYS SAY THIS, IT'S
TRUE, THE CHIEF WANTS YOU TO TAKE HIM.
[ LAUGHTER ]
OVER TO YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
PROVIDING A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
MAKE SURE YOU TAKE THE LETTERS.
THERE IS YOUR GIFT CERTIFICATE.
TAKE ALL OF THAT WITH YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU YOUNG PEOPLE FOR YOUR DEDICATION.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL TAMPA CITY

COUNCIL, GENUINE HONOR TO GIVE YOU THIS.
YOUNG PEOPLE HERE, GOD-WILLING, WONDERFUL FUTURE LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
THANKS IN PART TO YOUR WORK.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:54AM >> FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS
RECOGNITION.
BEING ABLE TO BE HERE IS JUST IN PART TO SHOW THAT I GET TO
WORK FOR THE GREATEST NATION -- OR THE GREATEST DEPARTMENT
IN THE NATION.
THAT FOR ME IS A REWARD EVERY DAY.
THANK MY HUSBAND AND SON, SUPPORTIVE PARENTS AND FAMILY
BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT THEM, TRULY.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY COMMAND STAFF AND CHAIN OF COMMAND.
I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I'M DOING WITHOUT THEM TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN STRIVE TO BE BETTER.
I THANK THEM TO ALLOW ME TO MENTOR AND LEAD THE FUTURE
GENERATIONS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I HAVE THESE FOLKS SAY THEIR NAME?
PLEASE, TELL US YOUR NAME.
9:34:48AM >> CORPORAL JULIAN.
9:34:49AM >> CORPORAL ROBERTS GARRETT.
9:34:54AM >> CAPTAIN.

9:34:57AM >> MAJOR ASHLEY.
9:35:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:35:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
IT IS AN HONOR TO SEE YOU HERE, ESPECIALLY THE FOUR YOUNG
PEOPLE BEHIND YOU.
THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
WHEN YOU GET YOUNG PEOPLE AND YOU GET THEM INVOLVED IN
SOCIETY AND TEACH THEM WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT, THEY CERTAINLY
HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GROW UP AS SOCIETY LEADERS AND
DO THE RIGHT THING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CHIEF MENTIONED STOLEN CARS, I WAS
THINKING ABOUT BACK IN THE '90s, YOU CAN VERIFY THIS
FIGURE, ALMOST CERTAIN THERE WERE OVER 11,000 CARS STOLEN IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA IN ONE YEAR BACK IN THE '90s.
GOT DOWN TO A LOW OF 450.
ONE IS TOO MANY.
BECAUSE OF YOURSELF, LIKE YOU AND CADETS BEHIND YOU, WORKING
AND WORKING, AND SOLVING PROBLEMS, IT'S WHAT MAKES TAMPA
WHAT IT IS.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY AND WANT THE CITY TO
GO FORWARD WHO ELECT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE
ORGANIZATION YOU HAVE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF YOUR

DEPARTMENT AND YOUR UNION AND ALL OF YOU THAT MAKE THE CITY
OF TAMPA BETTER.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
9:36:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:36:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT UP YOUR
FAMILY.
THANKS TO THEM AND THE SACRIFICE THAT THEY MAKE AND THE
SACRIFICE YOU MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THE UNIFORM.
BUT MENTORING THE YOUTH AND SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE
WITH YOU THAT WE GOT TO MEET, THAT IS THE FUTURE OF THE
COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE LAYING DOWN THAT GROUNDWORK AND FOUNDATION.
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
I HOPE YOU REALIZE THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE OPENING UP THAT
PATH AND HELPING TO START THAT JOURNEY FOR A BETTER CITY FOR
TOMORROW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
ENJOY ALL THE GOODIES THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED BECAUSE THERE IS
A LOT THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:36:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
THANK YOU FOR THE YOUNG FOLKS WHO ARE GETTING INVOLVED AS
WELL.

COMMUNITY RELATIONS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT
OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN DO.
DR. CHIEF BERCAW HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF THAT THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE A BIG PART OF IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ALSO, YOU MENTIONED OUR POLICE FORCE BEING THE BEST IN THE
COUNTRY.
AS I TRAVEL AROUND THE REGION, OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
COMPLAIN BECAUSE OUR PAY IS TOO HIGH.
I KNOW POLICE PROBABLY THINK IT SHOULD BE HIGHER EVEN, BUT
WE ON CITY COUNCIL HAVE SUPPORTED ALL THE EFFORTS TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE PAY WELL BECAUSE WE WANT THE BEST PEOPLE IN OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IT'S HARD TO GET IN OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
THERE ARE VERY HIGH STANDARDS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE HELPING INSPIRE
PEOPLE TO POTENTIALLY APPLY IN THE FUTURE TO GO THROUGH
TRAINING WITH OUR POLICE FORCE.
WE HOPE TO CONTINUE BUILDING GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND ALSO CONTINUING TO HIRE THE BEST FOLKS OUT
THERE.
THANK YOU.
9:37:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.

9:37:58AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR YOUR
MENTORING OF THE YOUTH AS WELL.
YOUTH IS A BIG PASSION OF MINE.
TO SEE YOU WALK UP AND WANTING TO BE A PART OF THE CHANGE IN
HELPING YOUR COMMUNITY REALLY MEANS A LOT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THANK YOU ALL FOR STEPPING UP.
9:38:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FROM A GRATEFUL CITY
COUNCIL.
AS A FORMER EDUCATOR MYSELF, I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU BEING
ABLE TO USE YOUR ROLE TO HELP MENTOR YOUTH.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
I THINK ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF THIS IS THAT EVERYBODY
THAT CHIEF BRINGS FORWARD IS ABLE TO USE A PERSONAL PASSION
TO MAKE THEIR COMMUNITY BETTER.
IT JUST REMINDS US THAT THE POLICE ARE AN OVERARCHING AGENCY
WHERE EVERY PART OF A COMMUNITY.
I'M JUST REALLY THRILLED THAT WE GET TO SEE PEOPLE TAKE
THEIR PASSIONS AND ABLE TO USE THEM FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY
IN WHATEVER THEIR JOB IS, BUT PARTICULARLY IN OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO CAME TO STAND BEHIND HER
TODAY.
I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL.

APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE'LL GIVE A FEW MINUTES FOR ALL OF YOU AND YOUR
WONDERFUL SUPPORTERS TO GET READY FOR SOME PHOTOS OUTSIDE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:40:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, YOU ALL, WE ARE STILL IN -- THANK YOU.
9:41:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
WE ARE HERE TO HONOR A VERY SPECIAL WOMAN, MS. BETTY
COLEMAN, WHO IS HERE, WHO THIS YEAR WILL MARK 45 YEARS,
WONDERFUL WOMAN WAS HIRED AS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN
FEMALE FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
THAT IS A VERY, VERY BIG DEAL.
SHE SERVED FOR OVER THREE DECADES IN TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
BEFORE I TALK ABOUT HER, JUST FOR THAT GREAT FACT ALONE OF
WHAT IT MEANS, LET'S GIVE HER A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ONE YEAR BEFORE MS. COLEMAN WAS HIRED, FERNANDEZ WRIGHT, WHO
MANY OF US KNOW WAS HIRED AS THE FIRST FEMALE FIREFIGHTER,
AND A YEAR LATER MS. COLEMAN WOULD COME.
SHE'S HERE WITH MANY, MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING HER DAUGHTER
MEGAN, HER SON CECIL, TWO OF HER EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN, ARIANA
AND GENESA WHO ARE HERE AS WELL.

THERE ARE A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE.
OBVIOUSLY, OUR WONDERFUL CHIEF TRIPP WHO WE WILL BE HEARING
FROM IS HERE.
WE HAVE MR. JOHNNY PRIMUS REPRESENTING LOCAL 754.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE OF NEGOTIATIONS.
I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CHIEF
MORRIS LOPEZ.
BILL WADE AND FOLKS FROM THE RETIREES WILL BE COMING AS WELL
AS THE OFFICE OF CONGRESS WOMAN KATHY CASTOR.
IN 1981, MS. COLEMAN WAS HIRED WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
1981 WHEN SHE CAME ON, PRESIDENT REAGAN HAD ONLY BEEN
PRESIDENT FOR TWO MONTHS.
THE IRANIAN HOSTAGES, 52 OF THEM, WERE JUST RELEASED BY
IRAN.
JOURNEY'S DON'T STOP BELIEVING WAS ON THE JUKEBOX.
CHARLIE MIRANDA HAD BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL FOR ONLY SEVEN
YEARS BACK THEN.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BOB MARTINEZ WAS OUR MAYOR.
AT THAT TIME, THIS GOOD WOMAN WOULD JOIN TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
1981.
13 YEARS AFTER THE FORMAL END OF JIM CROW.
13 YEARS AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE FAIR HOUSING LAW.
18 YEARS AFTER THE MURDER OF EVER IS.
AND AFTER THE MURDER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS HAVING A LOT OF LOCAL DEPARTMENTS
THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH AND NORTH TO OPEN UP FOR MORE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, GOOD PEOPLE WHO WERE QUALIFIED AND
WORK HARD AND PREVIOUSLY BEEN EXCLUDED.
MS. COLEMAN WOULD APPLY.
YOU WERE WHAT, 21 YEARS OLD?
YEAH, 21 YEARS OLD AND WORKED AT THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
HER FAMILY, I MET WITH HER, WAS VERY NERVOUS.
OBVIOUSLY, ANYBODY THAT JOINS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT IS
VERY DANGEROUS IN 1981 AND SO FORTH.
SHE WOULD DO IT.
IT WOULD TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF COURAGE FOR HER TO TAKE THAT
SHOT AND WOULD ULTIMATELY DO IT.
SERVE OVER THREE DECADES.
EVERYBODY THAT I TALKED TO ABOUT HER HAS TREMENDOUS RESPECT
FOR HER, HER ROLE, HER PART IN HISTORY AND HER AMAZING WORK
ETHIC.
I MET HER AT A TAMPA FIRE RESCUE RETIREE LUNCHEON THAT I
WENT TO.
SHE WAS THERE WITH MEGAN, HER WONDERFUL DAUGHTER.
WE MEET, TALK, MEGAN GOES, SHE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN
AMERICAN FEMALE HIRED BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I WENT, REALLY?
MS. COLEMAN GOES, NOT A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE SHE IS SO HUMBLE
ABOUT IT.

I SAID THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
WE FOUND OUT THIS YEAR WOULD BE 45 YEARS.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO HONOR HER.
BEGIN AT STATION 1 IN 1981 AND SERVE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE
DIFFERENT STATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
SHE IS A TREMENDOUS WOMAN OF CHRISTIAN FAITH, SOMETHING VERY
IMPORTANT FOR HER.
IF YOU GO ANY SUNDAY YOU WILL FIND HER AT NEW HOPE
MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH WHERE SHE ATTENDS WITH HER
CHILDREN AND MANY OF HER GRANDCHILDREN AS WELL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FOUNDATIONS OF HER LIFE.
BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR HER AND HAVE HER SPEAK AND SO FORTH
AND I KNOW WE HAVE FOLKS HERE AS WELL, CHIEF TRIPP, PLEASE
COME FORWARD, MA'AM.
THANK YOU.
9:45:02AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE
RESCUE.
MS. BETTY IS THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN
A TRUE TRAILBLAZER FOR THE WOMEN OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
REGARDLESS OF WHAT RACE THEY WERE.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH BACK IN 1981.
WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH NOW, NOTHING COMPARED TO THAT.
JUST TELLING YOU.
I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY NOW.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.

I HAD REACHED OUT TO COLEMAN BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS
HAVING CHALLENGES.
FEMALE AFRICAN AMERICAN IN THIS CAREER.
SHE GAVE ME A LOT OF GUIDANCE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT
YOU WORRY ABOUT.
THIS IS WHAT YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT.
I HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T STOP.
I DIDN'T GIVE UP.
I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SIT HERE TODAY TO BE ABLE TO
HONOR YOU BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU, I WOULDN'T BE HERE
BECAUSE YOU PAVED THOSE ROADS FOR US, YOU KNOW.
AS FAR AS BEING AFRO-AMERICAN, IT'S NOT THAT MANY OF US IN
THE FIRE SERVICE.
WE TRY TO RECRUIT.
A LOT OF THEM DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT IT'S A CHALLENGE.
THAT'S ANYONE.
NOT TO MAKE IT A RACIAL ISSUE, BUT YOU WERE THAT TRAILBLAZER
FOR ME.
YOU WAS THAT TRAIL BLAZER TO HELP THE FEMALES TO CONTINUE TO
DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND DON'T GIVE UP.
WE WORK JUST AS HARD AS THOSE MEN DO.
AND SOMETIMES EVEN BETTER.
WITH THAT BEING SAID AND AS WE TALK ABOUT HER BEING
CHRISTIAN WOMAN, CHRISTIAN FAITH.
PROVERBS, VIRTUAL WOMAN.

PROVERBS 31 AND RE-CREATED, BUT I WANTED TO READ THIS TO
YOU.
MS. BETTY COLEMAN IS A WOMAN OF WISDOM IN HER STRENGTH AND
HER VIRTUE.
SHE WAS AND STILL IS CLOTHED WITH DIGNITY AND FILLS WITH
DIVINE CONFIDENCE.
TAUGHT MANY THROUGH HER WORK DILIGENTLY, SHOWED LOVE
SELFLESSLY, AND SERVED FAITHFULLY IN ALL THAT SHE DID IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
HER WORDS BROUGHT LIFE.
HER ACTIONS REFLECT HER GLORY AND HER HEART STAY ROOTED IN
TRUTH.
MS. COLEMAN WALKED IN EXCELLENCE AND COURAGE TO MANAGE HER
TIME, HER FAMILY, HER HOME AND HER CALLING WITH GRACE AND
JOY.
MS. COLEMAN ROSE EACH DAY 30 PLUS YEARS, 30 PLUS YEARS.
I AIN'T MADE IT.
I'M TRYING.
30 PLUS YEARS WITH PURPOSE KNOWING THAT SHE HAS PLEASED HER
CALLING TO HER COMMUNITY AND HER GOD.
GOD BLESS YOU.
I THANK YOU.
I'LL INVITE TO YOU MY RETIREMENT PARTY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:47:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
VERY MUCH FROM THE HEART.
I SEE EDGAR WITH LOCAL 2294 WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
FIREFIGHTERS.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY, AND WHATNOT.
WAS ANYBODY ELSE HERE FROM ANY ORGANIZATION TO PRESENT
ANYTHING?
BEFORE WE ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK AND YOUR FAMILY, WE HAVE A LOT
OF FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY HERE TO HONOR YOU.
9:48:25AM >> I'M HUMBLED AND HONORED TO BE HERE.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, YOU TALK ABOUT A
TRAILBLAZER, CHIEF AND A ROLE MODEL AND SETTING A LEGACY, I
WANT TO THANK YOUR FAMILY AND YOURSELF FOR YOUR DEDICATION,
YOUR SACRIFICE AND ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR GREAT CITY.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC,
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
YOU HAVE LED BY EXAMPLE AND HAVE LIVED IT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS, 45 YEARS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
ON BEHALF OF ONE CHAPTER OF TAMPA'S HISTORY TO ANOTHER, IT
IS OUR PLEASURE TO PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT MEMBERSHIP TO THE
THEATER TO COME SEE US AND SPEND TIME IN ANOTHER INSTITUTION
THAT MAKES TAMPA GREAT.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:25AM >> JEFF HOUCK WITH THE 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
I'M INSPIRED BY THE BIBLE PASSAGE -- I'M SORRY, WHAT DID I
MESS UP?
I THOUGHT I MISSED A BUTTON HERE.
SHE WAS SCHOOLING ME.
I'M INSPIRED BY THE BIBLE PASSAGE, PROVERBS 46, GOD IS
WITHIN HER, SHE WILL NOT FAIL.
YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME THIS MORNING, INSPIRED SO MANY PEOPLE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY, FOURTH
AND FIFTH GENERATIONS, SMALL TOKEN OF OUR THANKS FOR ALL
YOU'VE DONE FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I'LL KEEP EVERYTHING BUTTONED.
PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:50:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY, HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA'S BOARD.
9:50:13AM >> MARK HANEY.
9:50:14AM >> WE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS AND YEARS OF
SERVICE AND FOR BEING A ROLE MODEL.
YOU PROBABLY OUTWORKED ALL THE MEN.
LET'S BE HONEST.
SORRY, GUYS.
REALLY INSPIRED BY YOUR STORY AND I THANK YOUR FAMILY.
AS A MEANS OF SAYING THANK YOU, WE'RE PRESENTING WITH YOU AN

ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO GO.
MARK IS ALSO GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY HE CHOSE THE FOX.
9:50:38AM >> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY IF THEY MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT YOU, I
WILL BE THE FIRST TO BUY TICKETS.
I THINK ANGELA BASSETT SHOULD PLAY YOU.
I THINK IT WOULD BE AN AMAZING MOVIE.
IT'S AN AMAZING STORY.
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH AND HOW MANY
PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU.
IT'S AMAZING.
THE FOX, I COULDN'T REALLY THINK OF ANYTHING TO THINK OF THE
FOX WITH YOUR SITUATION, BUT WE JUST GOT TWO FOXES FOR THE
FIRST TIME AT THE ZOO AND THEY ARE REALLY CUTE.
I JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A CHANCE FOR US TO TALK ABOUT
FOX.
SAVED FROM A FUR FARM.
TWO RED FOXES AND THEY ARE AMAZING.
9:51:24AM >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:51:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEVE MICHELINI.
YOU'RE STILL SMILING, TOO.
MAKE YOU SMILE SOME MORE.
ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, PROVIDING
WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF FOR LUNCH OR

DINNER.
BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, PROVIDING YOU WITH FOUR
COMPLIMENTARY TICKETS SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF AT BUSCH
GARDENS.
9:51:54AM >> THANK YOU.
9:51:55AM >> I KNOW BEING THE FIRST OF ANYTHING MEANS THERE IS A
TARGET ON YOUR BACK.
YOU DODGED ALL THOSE BULLETS AND YOU'VE MADE IT THROUGH AND
QUITE SUCCESSFULLY.
WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR TENURE AND SERVICE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:52:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FAMILY, FRIENDS, BETTY, CHIEF, LUIS, THANK YOU.
I'M EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER EMERITUS JOHNNY PRIMUS.
ON BEHALF OF LOCAL 754 TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS, IT IS WITH
HUMBLENESS AND HONOR THAT WE RECOGNIZE RETIRED SUPERVISOR OF
INSPECTIONS BETTY COLEMAN.
BETTY WASN'T JUST A TRAILBLAZER, SHE WAS THE REAL DEAL.
OUTSTANDING IN HER SERVICE AS A FIREFIGHTER, FIRE INSPECTOR,
FIRE INVESTIGATOR, INSPECTION SUPERVISOR AND LEADER, WHO
SPENT THE MAJORITY OF HER FIRE SERVICE CAREER IN THE FIRE
PREVENTION DIVISION WHERE SHE QUIETLY LAID THE FOUNDATION
FOR SHAPING THE DIVISION INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY.

EXCUSE MY EMOTIONS HERE.
HER EFFORTS, COUPLED WITH HER SKILLS AND ABILITY, WERE
INSTRUMENTAL IN AIDING A DIVISION TO TRANSITION FROM
ANTIQUATED HANDWRITTEN INSPECTION REPORTS AND ASSOCIATED
PAPERWORK TO THE MODERN, TECHNICAL, COMPUTERIZED INSPECTION
SYSTEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE TODAY.
AS INSPECTION SUPERVISOR, BETTY SET THE STANDARD BY
COMMANDING PROFESSIONALISM, FAIRNESS, AND ACCOUNTABILITY,
WHICH SHE RETURNED THREEFOLD BACK TO ALL THOSE SHE
ENCOUNTERED.
FOR THOSE WHO WORK FOR HER, WE ARE BETTER FOR IT.
BETTY WAS A PROUD CARD-CARRYING UNION MEMBER AND HER UNION
VALUES RAN BLOOD DEEP.
SHE DEMONSTRATED EVERY DAY THAT ONCE LEADERSHIP IS EARNED,
IT IS PROTECTED AND RESPECTED.
FOR HER, IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT BREAKING BARRIERS, BUT ABOUT
CREATING OPPORTUNITIES AND BUILDING THOSE PATHS FORWARD.
FROM ALL OF US AT LOCAL 754, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE,
YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND YOUR LEGACY.
YOU DIDN'T JUST MAKE HISTORY, YOU MADE A DIFFERENCE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:54:04AM >> THIS IS WILLIAM MANN FILLING THE POSITION THAT BETTY
LEFT.
9:54:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
JOHNNY MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT BETTY WAS A
UNION MEMBER.

YOU TOLD ME YOUR FATHER WAS A LONGSHOREMAN AND UNION MEMBER
AS WELL.
ON BEHALF -- A COUPLE OF THINGS, I GOT THIS PICTURE THAT
MEGAN SENT ME AND I KIND OF ENLARGED IT.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF BETTY WHEN SHE WAS VERY YOUNG.
WHAT YEAR WAS THIS?
9:54:47AM >> '81.
9:54:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS HER FIRST YEAR.
THERE YOU GO.
9:55:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOW.
9:55:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
1981.
9:55:09AM >> MELVIN STONE.
9:55:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
45 YEARS AGO.
HERE, MA'AM, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA FOR
WHAT WAS HECK OF AN EMOTIONAL PRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY
FROM CHIEF TRIPP AND JUST EVERYBODY, TALKING ABOUT -- WHEN
WE MET, VERY HUMBLE, BUT IT IS A BIG DEAL.
GOD BLESS YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:56:00AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHOA.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO COME UP HERE AND GET THE PLAQUE AND
JUST LEAVE.
[ LAUGHTER ]

OH, WOW.
OKAY.
GOOD MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID
RECOGNIZING ME.
I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO CRY.
I'M SO SORRY.
THIS IS VERY, VERY NICE.
I DO APPRECIATE THIS.
FIRST -- I NEED TO SEE MY SPEECH.
[ LAUGHTER ]
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY AND PERMISSION THEY GAVE ME TO SERVE OUR CITY
AND OUR GREAT COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS.
I THANK THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR THE CHANCE THEY TOOK WHEN
THEY HIRED ME BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER WOMEN ON THE LIST,
TOO.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GET ME BUT THEY DID.
I THANK THEM SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I WAS GLAD THEY CHOSE ME TO REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT AND
THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE MY SKILLS.
I AM ALSO GLAD THAT I WAS ABLE TO HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR SO
MANY OTHER WOMEN TO COME ON THE DEPARTMENT.
STARTING ANY NEW JOB ALWAYS COMES WITH SOME BUMPS IN THE
ROAD.

I WENT FROM WORKING AS A PERSONNEL CLERK AT THE CITY WATER
DEPARTMENT.
I WAS WEARING A DRESS, STOCKINGS, AND HEELS TO BECOME A
FIREFIGHTER WEARING A HELMET, BUNKER PANTS, AND BOOTS.
THAT WAS A CHANGE.
NOT TO MENTION LEARNING SO MANY NEW THINGS STARTING FROM
MEDICAL AND FIRE CODES, LANGUAGES THAT I NEVER HEARD, BUT BY
THE GRACE OF GOD EACH DAY GOT BETTER.
WORKING AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WAS AN EXCITING JOB.
IT ALLOWED ME TO WORK WITH SOME OF THE MOST TALENTED,
UNIQUE, AND FINE PEOPLE.
NO, IT WASN'T ALWAYS FLOWERY.
DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT.
FOR SOME, WE HAD OUR MOMENTS, BUT WE GOT THROUGH THEM, AND
THAT WAS WONDERFUL.
I GAINED SO MANY NEW FRIENDS.
I GAINED SO MANY NEW FRIENDS THAT I CHERISH THEM EVEN TO
THIS DAY.
IT WAS AN EXCITING AND REWARDING CAREER, AND IF I HAD TO DO
IT OVER AGAIN, I WOULD.
I THANK MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS FOR ALL OF THEIR LOVE,
SUPPORT, AND ENCOURAGEMENT THEY GAVE ME THROUGHOUT THOSE
MANY YEARS, AND THEY STILL DO EVEN TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I WISH EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO CAN PURSUE THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE

AS A CAREER.
YOU WILL FIND THERE ARE MANY DOORS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
TRAVEL THROUGH.
YOU WILL ALSO HAVE A CHANCE TO POUR BACK INTO YOUR COMMUNITY
TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OTHERS.
YOU WILL BRING NEW FRIENDS AND NEW MENTORS INTO YOUR LIFE,
WHILE ACHIEVING A WONDERFUL AND REWARDING CAREER PATH FOR
YOURSELF.
AGAIN, I AM NOW HAPPILY RETIRED.
I'M ENJOYING MY GRANDCHILDREN AND MY FAMILY AND I'M NOT
BOTHERING ANYONE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:00:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW, BETTY, BEING NUMBER ONE COMES
WITH A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
YOU MIGHT BE RETIRED, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU YOU'RE NOT TIRED.
YOU SET A BLAZING TRAIL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEMALES ARE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
NOW.
MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN TELL ME DURING THIS SESSION.
BUT YOU SET A STANDARD.
HOW MANY FEMALES WE HAVE?
10:00:22AM >> 53.
10:00:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
53.

LOOK AT THE BLAZING TRAIL, THE PATH YOU HAVE GIVEN OTHERS
THAT WAS MUCH EASIER TO GET ON NOW THAN WHEN YOU HAD TO
FIGHT INCH BY INCH TO GET WHERE YOU WERE AT.
IT WASN'T EASY TO DO WHAT YOU DID BACK THEN.
IT WASN'T EASY TODAY.
BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORT TO SAY I WANT COMPASSION, I WANT
UNDERSTANDING, I WANT THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BE BETTER, THAT'S
WHAT I WANT TO DO TO HELP SOCIETY AND YOU SUCCEEDED IN
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
TODAY'S DAY IS NOT TO BE FORGOTTEN, IT'S TO BE REMEMBERED ON
WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISHED TO GIVE OTHERS THE CHANCE TO DO WHAT
THEY WANT TO DO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING BACK FOR 2026.
WHAT A WONDERFUL WAY TO START THE DAY.
HOW INSPIRATIONAL.
WE HAD THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND NOW WE HAVE YOU.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE YET.
10:01:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL ABOUT THE WOMEN TODAY.
10:01:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WOMEN, BUT IT'S DAYS
LIKE THIS THAT REMIND ME WHY I LOVE COMING HERE, BECAUSE OF
YOU, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MENTIONED, THE PATH.
YOU ARE A TRAILBLAZER.
YOU ARE A PIONEER.

YOU ARE HISTORY.
YOU ARE WHAT MAKE TAMPA GREAT.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
AS FIRE CHIEF MENTIONED, 53 WOMEN OFFICERS -- SORRY,
FIREFIGHTERS, YOU WERE THE FIRST.
AND IT WILL CONTINUE.
YOU INSPIRED EVEN MORE PEOPLE TODAY BY BEING HERE, JUST YOUR
PRESENCE, PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
YOUR WORK IS NOT DONE.
YOU ARE RETIRED BUT YOUR STORY CONTINUES.
THANK YOU.
IT IS AN HONOR.
CONGRATULATIONS.
10:02:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
IT IS AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE.
HONOR TO HEAR YOU.
I HOPE OTHER FORUMS WHERE WE CAN HEAR YOU TELL MORE OF YOUR
STORY.
ALSO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HAVING CHIEF TRIPP IN THE ROOM AND
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TRAIL THAT SHE'S BLAZED AS WELL.
I HOPE THAT INDIVIDUALLY OR TOGETHER YOU ARE ALL BEING
RECORDED SOMEWHERE ON VIDEO OR SOME FORMAT SO WE CAN KEEP
THE HISTORY GOING.
IF NOBODY HAS ASKED YOU, CALL ME AND I'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO
GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:02:40AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO SAY AN AMAZING STORY.
AS A WOMAN, ALSO AS A BLACK WOMAN, YOU ARE VERY INSPIRING.
I JUST APPRECIATE YOU FOR CONTINUING, BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF
RESPONSIBILITY TO BE THE FIRST, BUT YOU CONTINUED.
I'M ALWAYS VERY INSPIRED BY WOMEN LIKE YOURSELF WHO WERE THE
FIRST AND CONTINUED.
YOU PAVED THE WAY FOR A LOT OF US, INCLUDING ME.
SO THANK YOU.
10:03:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO SAY SOMETHING?
10:03:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
I JUST ECHO EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS.
ESPECIALLY COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
MOVING THE PATH, CLEARING THE PATH FOR SO MANY OTHERS.
10:03:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO WANT TO ECHO EVERYONE.
ESPECIALLY AS A WOMAN, IT REALLY MATTERS TO HAVE THIS
REPRESENTATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD.
IT'S JUST -- I MEAN, WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, JUST BEING 13
YEARS AWAY FROM JIM CROW.
I MEAN, WE STILL, IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT,
TO REMEMBER THE WOMEN WHO CAME BEFORE US, ESPECIALLY, AND

THAT WE CONTINUE TO STAND ON YOUR SHOULDERS AND IMPORTANTLY
AS WELL THAT WE CONTINUE TO BRING WOMEN ALONG TO BUILD
LADDERS SO THEY CAN STAND ON OUR SHOULDERS AND GET TALLER
AND BETTER AND STRONGER.
WE'RE JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID AND REALLY
HAPPY THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU YOUR FLOWERS HERE WHILE YOU ARE
HERE.
THAT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY MEAN TO A
COMMUNITY WHILE THEY ARE STILL HERE.
WE'RE JUST SO APPRECIATIVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME OUT
TODAY.
WE WISH YOU CONTINUED HAPPINESS IN RETIREMENT.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY AND SHARING A LITTLE
BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY.
THANK YOU ALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
NEXT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE -- WE'LL GIVE A MOMENT FOR EVERYONE
TO EXIT.
10:06:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INTRODUCTION
FOR THIS TODAY.
10:07:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AT THIS TIME SHARON LUTHER FROM THE
CITY OF HAINES CITY WHO SERVES AS THE CITY CLERK.
SHE WILL BE MAKING THE PIN PRESENTATION TO OUR WONDERFUL
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES AND AMAZING SULING HARRIS ON ACHIEVING
MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERK, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
ACCOMPLISHMENT.
YES, MA'AM, TAKE IT AWAY.
10:07:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY
STAFF, ATTENDEES.
I AM SO HUMBLED TO BE HERE.
THIS IS FABULOUS.
THIS IS LIKE WOMAN DAY.
AS HE SAID, MY NAME IS SHARON LUTHER, I'M THE CITY CLERK FOR
THE CITY OF HAINES CITY IN POLK COUNTY AND THE FLORIDA
ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERKS CENTRAL WEST DISTRICT DIRECTOR.
IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I APPEAR HERE THIS MORNING TO
CONGRATULATE YOUR CITY ON THE RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENT OF YOUR
CITY CLERK SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES AND YOUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK
SULING LUCAS HARRIS UPON RECEIVING THEIR MASTER MUNICIPAL
CLERK DESIGNATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR PAM IORIO ON MAY
12, 2003.
SHE WAS THE 28th CLERK OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SHE IS ONLY THE THIRD FEMALE TO HOLD THIS POSITION.

PRIOR TO HER APPOINTMENT, SHE ALSO SERVED AS CHAIR TO THE
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SHIRLEY IS THE LONGEST SERVING CITY CLERK IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA'S HISTORY.
BEFORE HER 22 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, SHE WAS THE
DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH URBAN LEAGUE AND
FOR THE PREVIOUS 16 YEARS, SHE WAS A SUPERVISING ACCOUNTANT,
AUDITOR, BUDGET ANALYST AS WELL AS CORPORATE AND TAX
ACCOUNTANT FOR GTE OF FLORIDA.
SHE CURRENTLY SERVES AS VOLUNTEER MEMBER AND ADVISOR TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
SHE ALSO SERVED AS BOARD MEMBER AND ADVISOR FOR 13 YEARS FOR
THE SALVATION ARMY.
SHE HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED WITH BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HISTORICAL ADVISORY COUNCIL, NATIONAL
FORUM FOR BLACK PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, TAMPA ORGANIZATION OF
BLACK AFFAIRS, AND NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ACCOUNTANTS AND
NABA, ASSOCIATION OF BLACK ACCOUNTANTS.
SHARING THE 2006 ANNUAL CONVENTION FOR ALL FLORIDA CITY
CLERKS, SHE WAS HIGHLY RECOGNIZED FOR HER EVENT PLANNING AND
RED CARPET TREATMENT FOR ALL THOSE ATTENDING.
SHE HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED AND BEEN AWARDED THE JOSEPHINE
HOWARD STAFFORD MEMORIAL AWARD IN 2025, NATIONAL FORUM FOR
BLACK PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, TAMPA BAY AREA CHAPTER 2012
AWARD, THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS WOODS AND WANTON CHAPTER, INC.,

THE DR. WILLIAM H. COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD IN 2015.
IN RECOGNITION OF OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS, DEDICATION AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT ENRICH THE LIVES OF MANY IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
WHERE SHE GETS TIME TO BE THE CITY CLERK OF TAMPA, I DON'T
KNOW.
BUT, MY, THIS IS IMPRESSIVE.
WE'RE ALSO HONORING YOUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
I WANT TO READ HER BIO AS WELL.
SULING LUCAS HARRIS BEGAN HER CAREER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
AS TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE IN JUNE 2003.
SHE BECAME A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
ON OCTOBER 12, 2004.
SINCE THAT TIME, SHE HAS GAINED COMPREHENSIVE EXPERIENCE
ACROSS NEARLY EVERY FUNCTION WITHIN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
HER SERVICE INCLUDES ROLES AS FRONT DESK CLERK, AGENDA
MANAGEMENT CLERK, CODE ENFORCEMENT CLERK, SENIOR CITY
COUNCIL CITY CLERK SUPPORT SPECIALIST WHERE SHE MANAGED THE
CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AND ASSISTED WITH DAILY LEGISLATIVE AND
OPERATIONAL FUNCTIONS.
THROUGH THESE POSITIONS SHE DEVELOPED EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF
MUNICIPAL PROCEDURES, AGENDA PREPARATION, RECORDS
MANAGEMENT, AND QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCESSES.
NEAR THE END OF 2016, SULING WAS APPOINTED INTERIM DEPUTY
CITY CLERK AND PERMANENTLY ASSUMED THE ROLE IN NOVEMBER

2017.
SHE CONTINUES TO SERVE AS THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK, PROVIDING
LEADERSHIP AND OVERSIGHT FOR CITY COUNCIL OPERATIONS.
CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OPERATIONS AND CLERK
OFFICE STAFF WHILE ENSURING ACCURACY, TRANSPARENCY, AND
COMPLIANCE WITH STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
SULING IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF
CITY CLERKS AS WELL AS THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF
MUNICIPAL CLERKS.
SHE BECAME A MEMBER OF BOTH ORGANIZATIONS IN 2016 AND EARNED
HER MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERK DESIGNATION REFLECTING HER
DEDICATION TO PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE, ETHICAL PUBLIC
SERVICE, AND LIFELONG LEARNING.
SHE IS HONORED TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA AND REMAINS
COMMITTED TO ADVANCING THE MUNICIPAL CLERK POSITION.
SOME PEOPLE SAY WHAT IS A CLERK?
WHAT IS A CITY CLERK IN LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
OUR ORGANIZATION.
THE INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS KNOWN AS
IIMC AND ITS PARTNER WITH THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CITY
CLERKS ARE PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS THAT PROMOTE CONTINUING
EDUCATION AND CERTIFICATION THROUGH UNIVERSITY AND
COLLEGE-BASED INSTITUTES.
THE IIMC'S PRIMARY GOAL IS TO ACTIVELY PROMOTE THE
CONTINUING EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF

MUNICIPAL CLERKS THROUGH EXTENSIVE EDUCATION PROGRAMS,
CERTIFICATION, PUBLICATIONS, NETWORKING ACROSS THE GLOBE,
ANNUAL CONFERENCES AND RESEARCH.
THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERK'S PRIMARY GOAL IS TO
ACTIVELY PROMOTE THE CONTINUING EDUCATION AND PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BY
PARTNERING WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE FLORIDA
INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT TO MEET THE EVER-CHANGING
EDUCATIONAL NEEDS OF THE CITY AND TOWN CLERKS AND TO IMPROVE
THEIR KNOWLEDGE IN AREAS SUCH AS PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, LAW,
MANAGEMENT, ELECTIONS, AND MANY OTHER DISCIPLINES.
THE MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERK ACADEMY WAS ESTABLISHED TO
FURTHER PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION OF CITY CLERKS AND TO MEET
THE CHALLENGES OF THE OFFICE.
ACADEMY MEMBERS MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE ACTIVELY
ENGAGED IN EDUCATIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL PARTICIPATION THAT
KEEPS THEM CURRENT WITH THE CHANGING EVENTS IN THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT SCENE.
ACADEMY MEMBERS SEEKING TO EARN THE MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERK
DESIGNATION ARE REQUIRED TO ATTAIN A HUNDRED HOURS IN
ADVANCED EDUCATION WITH 60% OF THE COURSE WORK IN PUBLIC
ADMINISTRATION AND 40% IN THE PROFESSIONAL AND SOCIAL
CONTRIBUTIONS.
THIS IS QUITE A TASK CONSIDERING THE DAILY DEMANDS OF THE
CLERK'S OFFICE.

CURRENTLY, 9.6% OF THE 15,000 MEMBERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL
MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE ATTAINED THEIR MASTER MUNICIPAL
CLERKS.
THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERKS HAS 626 MEMBERS, 142
MEMBERS HAVE REACHED THEIR MASTER MUNICIPAL DESIGNATION.
THAT TELLS YOU EXACTLY JUST HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO ATTAIN
THIS, AND IT'S VERY, VERY SPECIAL.
WE REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND OUR CLERKS WHEN THEY DO GET THIS
DESIGNATION.
SHIRLEY AND SULING ARE NOW PART OF AN ELITE GROUP OF
PROFESSIONALS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, A GROUP THEY COULD NOT
HAVE BECOME PART OF WITHOUT YOUR COMMITMENT AND THE SUPPORT
OF THEIR EFFORTS.
YOUR CITY CAN TAKE IMMENSE PRIDE IN SHIRLEY AND SULING'S
EDUCATIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO LIFELONG
LEARNING THAT HAS ENABLED THEM TO ACHIEVE THIS MILESTONE.
SHIRLEY AND SULING DISPLAY YOUR PLAQUE AND WEAR YOUR PIN
WITH PRIDE AS AN EXAMPLE OF DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERKS
PRESIDENT, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ITS MEMBERS, AND MYSELF,
THE CENTRAL WEST DISTRICT DIRECTOR, CONGRATULATIONS ON
BECOMING OUR NEWEST MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERKS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:15:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TURN THIS WAY SO THEY CAN GET IT FROM THAT
SIDE.

[ LAUGHTER ]
10:15:32AM >> I'M SO NERVOUS.
AND NOW SULING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:16:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S GET ALL THREE.
LOOKING THIS WAY IN THIS CORNER FIRST.
TURN AROUND FOR YOUR PERSON WHO WANTED THAT ONE.
OKAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:17:04AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE LAST THING.
I WANT TO THANK -- I HAVE SOME PAST PRESIDENTS THAT HAVE
COME.
SHIRLEY MOONEY, PAST PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION
AND A RETIRED CITY CLERK FROM TEMPLE TERRACE.
KELLY KOOS IS ALSO A PAST PRESIDENT AND THE CURRENT CITY
CLERK FOR CITY OF LAKELAND.
I THANK THEM FOR COMING AND GIVING ME A LITTLE SUPPORT HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THIS WAS WONDERFUL.
I HAVE IDEAS TO TAKE BACK NOW.
THANK YOU.
10:17:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S ALLOW THEM --
10:17:34AM >> I WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE FRANCIS AND JANET MARTIN,
THE OTHER TWO FEMALE CLERKS.
FRANCES WAS HERE UP UNTIL LAST YEAR.

SHE LEFT US.
SHE WAS A WONDERFUL GUIDE.
AND JEANETTE, SHE WAS WONDERFUL, TOO.
I KNEW THEM BOTH.
10:17:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
10:18:02AM >> OH, YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
ASIDE FROM HAVING THEM STAND UP WITH US, THEY WERE WONDERFUL
GUIDES AND WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
GENUINE PEOPLE.
I KNOW, CHARLIE, YOU KNEW BOTH OF THEM AND I'M SURE SOME
OTHER PEOPLE KNEW THEM.
THEY WERE JUST WONDERFUL.
FRANCES TALKED TO ME A NUMBER OF TIMES.
SHE WAS ALL ABOUT STAFF, STAFF, STAFF, AND SHE KNEW --
FRANCES STARTED BACK IN THE '50s.
SHE JUST PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR.
I LEARNED SO MUCH.
SHE WOULD TALK TO US.
TALK TO US, TALK TO STAFF.
SHE WAS ALWAYS SHOWING UP, AND I LOVED IT.
LOVED IT, LOVED IT, LOVED IT.
AND ANOTHER PERSON I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, AND I WOULD TELL
ANYBODY THIS, MR. BOWDEN USED TO ALWAYS SAY GIVE IT YOUR

BEST.
GIVE IT YOUR BEST.
YOU SAY, HOW YOU DOING?
OH, I'M GIVING IT MY BEST.
WE SHOULD ALL GIVE IT OUR BEST.
I TOOK IT TO HEART TO GIVE IT OUR BEST.
BUT ANYWAY, I WILL BE QUIET NOW.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:19:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. LUCAS HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY
ANYTHING?
10:19:31AM >> I ACTUALLY WROTE A SPEECH.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I'M NOT GOOD AT LIKE FREE TALKING, SO I WROTE EVERYTHING
DOWN.
AS ONE OF YOUR MEETING CLERKS, I KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE
THAT NO ONE WANTS OR SHOULD WANT TO EXTEND UNNECESSARY.
I PROMISE I WILL BE BRIEF.
I MADE THAT COMMITMENT ON THE RECORD, I AM TRULY HONORED TO
BE PINNED AND RECOGNIZED TODAY AS A MASTER MUNICIPAL CLERK.
THIS MOMENT IS BOTH HUMBLING AND DEEPLY MEANINGFUL.
BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS NOT JUST AN ACHIEVEMENT, BUT A
JOURNEY, ONE ROOTED IN SERVICE, COMMITMENT, AND A DEEP
RESPECT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
THE MMC DESIGNATION IS NOT SOMETHING EARNED OVERNIGHT, AS

YOU HEARD.
IT REFLECTS YEARS OF DEDICATION, CONTINUED EDUCATION,
PROFESSIONAL GROWTH, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE
IN MUNICIPAL SERVICE.
IT REPRESENTS A RESPONSIBILITY TO UPHOLD TRANSPARENCY,
INTEGRITY, AND DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, OFTEN BEHIND THE SCENES
BUT ALWAYS AT THE HEART OF GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO THE
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MUNICIPAL CLERKS, THE FLORIDA
ASSOCIATION OF CITY CLERKS, CITY COUNCIL, PAST AND PRESENT,
THE ADMINISTRATION, CITY STAFF ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT I
HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH, AND THE MENTORS AND
COLLEAGUES, CURRENT AND PRESENT, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHO
GUIDED, CHALLENGED AND ENCOURAGED ME ALONG THE WAY.
I SAID I WASN'T GOING TO CRY.
YOUR LEADERSHIP, SUPPORT, AND KNOWLEDGE MADE THE MILESTONE
POSSIBLE.
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A VERY SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE CITY
CLERK STAFF.
YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND TEAMWORK AND
COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE DO NOT GO UNNOTICED.
THE WORK WE DO IS SO DEMANDING, DETAILED AND OFTEN UNSEEN,
BUT IT IS SEASONAL TO THE FUNCTION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
I AM GRATEFUL TO WORK ALONGSIDE SUCH A CAPABLE AND COMMITTED
TEAM.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, COLLABORATION, AND TRUST.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN
MY SILENT MOTIVATION THROUGHOUT MY CAREER, EVEN WHEN THEY
MAY NOT HAVE FULLY UNDERSTOOD.
THEY HAVE BEEN THE REASON I KEPT GOING, PUSH FORWARD AND
CONTINUE TO GROW.
THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE AT WORK HELPING TO
PAY THE HOUSEHOLD BILLS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT-OUT TO MY BROTHER, MY
SISTER ALL THE WAY IN CALI.
I KNOW SHE IS WATCHING, FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO HAVE
SUPPORTED ME IN WAYS BOTH BIG AND SMALL.
CHECKING IN, ENCOURAGING ME, LISTENING WHEN I NEEDED IT AND
CELEBRATING THE WINS ALONG THE WAY.
YOU ARE -- YOUR PRESENCE IN MY LIFE MEANS MORE THAN YOU ALL
KNOW.
AND TO MY HUSBAND IN PARTICULAR, WHO TRULY DESERVES HIS OWN
PIN FOR LISTENING, SUPPORTING AND DEALING WITH ME THROUGHOUT
THIS JOURNEY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING MY CONSTANT SOURCE OF STRENGTH, HUMOR
AND BALANCE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO ANY OF MY WHO MAY
BE PRESENT.
YOUR SISTERHOOD, ENCOURAGEMENT AND COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AND

LEADERSHIP CONTINUE TO INSPIRE ME, AND I AM GRATEFUL TO BE
GROUNDED IN A LEGACY THAT REMINDS ME DAILY TO DO THE WORK,
SERVE WITH PURPOSE AND LEAD WITH INTEGRITY.
LASTLY, THANKS TO GOD FOR HIS GUIDANCE, GRACE, AND PROVISION
THROUGHOUT THE JOURNEY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE
SERVING OUR COMMUNITY WITH INTEGRITY AND DEDICATION.
THANK YOU.
AND I HOPE I WAS BRIEF.
IF NOT, COUNCIL IS USED TO IT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:23:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE SOME FLOWERS.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE BOTH OF YOU.
YOU ARE BOTH ROCK STARS.
I'M SO THANKFUL AND THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE SO THANKFUL THAT
SUCH BRILLIANT PEOPLE AS THE TWO OF YOU, HARDWORKING,
BRILLIANT PEOPLE, ARE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND
DEDICATED TO OUR CITY BECAUSE YOU ALL HELP KEEP THINGS
MOVING.
THE POSITION YOU ARE IN HAS A LOT OF REGULATION, RISK, AND
I'VE NEVER HEARD A SINGLE COMPLAINT ABOUT YOUR DEPARTMENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.
ALSO, I SHOULD NOTE THAT YOU ALL HAVE GONE THROUGH COVID,
WHICH WAS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT AND YOU WORKED WITH US ON
THAT.
YOU ALSO WORKED THROUGH A MAJOR ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE CHANGE
TO ONBASE WHICH I KNOW WAS VERY DIFFICULT, BUT ALMOST DIDN'T
SKIP A BEAT AT ALL.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE GO SO SMOOTHLY, THANK YOU TO I.T.
PEOPLE BUT ALSO YOU ALL FOR MAKING SURE THE DOCUMENTS ARE
THERE.
SHIRLEY, GREAT TO SEE YOU BE ON THE SIDE OF RECEIVING.
CAN SEE YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU ARE USUALLY
ANNOUNCING OTHER PEOPLE AND CONGRATULATING OTHER PEOPLE.
AND SULING, THE CITY COUNCIL COULDN'T RUN WITHOUT YOU.
I KNOW YOU ARE THE FRONT END OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
BUT THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN AND THE CARE AND DEDICATION,
THE FACT THAT YOU RESPOND ALL 24/7 AND THANKS TO MIKE,
BESIDES BEING A PHOTOGRAPHER, HE TAKES -- OR YOU TAKE HIM ON
GREAT TRIPS AROUND THE WORLD.
I LOVE WATCHING YOUR VACATIONS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, SULING
ALWAYS HAS A SMILE ON HER FACE.
NO MATTER HOW MANY HOURS SHE'S BEEN SITTING HERE, SHE ALWAYS
COMES IN WITH A SMILE.
WE MAY BE COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED, BUT SHE'S ALWAYS GOT ENERGY
AND A SMILE.

THAT'S BECAUSE SHE HAS SUPPORT AT HOME AND ALSO YOU'RE
TAKING -- OR SHE'S TAKING YOU ON GREAT TRIPS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
10:25:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:25:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
WE HAVE AN AMAZING CLERK'S OFFICE, NUMBER ONE.
THANKS TO EVERYBODY.
YES, SULING IS MY FAVORITE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, WHEN I WAS APPOINTED TO SERVE ON MY FIRST
CITY BOARD BACK 2012, YOU SWORE ME IN.
YOU WERE THERE AT THE BEGINNING.
SULING WAS HERE WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED.
YOU'VE BEEN THERE.
WE'VE LAUGHED.
I THINK I'VE MADE YOU LAUGH WITH MY TERRIBLE JOKES.
BUT I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU.
AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU ARE ALWAYS SMILING.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
ALWAYS GOOD TO COME TO WORK BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE.
I'M GLAD MR. HARRIS IS HERE.
WHEN WE FIRST SAW HIM, I SAID, I KNOW YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW
YOU BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
HERE HE IS.
HERE IS THE GUY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT YOU SHOW AT HOME.
THESE TWO WONDERFUL WOMEN ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US.
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO TOUCHES BEYOND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND
IMPACTS SO MANY PEOPLE.
THANK YOU TO YOU, YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:26:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK BACK AT BOTH OF YOU, SULING AND SHIRLEY,
I THINK OF HOW THIS DEPARTMENT STARTED.
I'M GOING BACK WHEN I WAS A YOUNG KID ABOUT 12 OR 13 YEARS
OLD.
PLAYED BALL WITH A GUY NAME STARK.
HIS FATHER, I THINK, WAS CITY CLERK.
WAY BACK.
'50s OR '60s.
THIS USED TO BE AN ELECTED POSITION AT ONE TIME.
I BELIEVE FRANCIS WAS THE LAST ONE ELECTED UNDER THAT SYSTEM
IF I RECALL HISTORY.
AGAIN, GOING FROM MEMORY.
HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH FRANCES, ENRIQUEZ, JEANETTE,
WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
I ASK SULING AND SHE LAUGHS.
HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU WRITE ALL THIS STUFF DOWN WHEN ALL

OF US ARE TALKING AT THE SAME TIME?
AND SHE DOES IT.
I'M SURE SHE DOESN'T FIB.
IT'S ACCURATE.
I'VE READ THEM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT.
CONGRATULATES TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
I ASK, HOW CAN YOU TAKE THIS FROM US, WHEN WE TALK -- AND
YOU WRITE IT DOWN, COMES OUT PERFECT.
IT'S SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE RECORD YOU KEEP AND KEEP THE
HISTORY GOING FORWARD OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE AWARD AS MASTER.
YOU ALL DESERVE IT DEARLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
10:27:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:27:58AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THIS IS DEFINITELY A WELL DESERVED HONOR.
BEING SOMEONE WHO IS STILL FAIRLY NEW, ANY QUESTIONS THAT I
HAD, EVEN DOWN TO THE SIMPLEST QUESTION, YOU BOTH ANSWERED
WITH A SMILE.
I'LL SAY, I'M SORRY -- NO, IT'S OKAY.
EVEN DOWN, THIS IS HOW IT WILL GO.
GO LIKE THIS.
AND BOTH OF YOU WERE JUST SO HELPFUL.
YOU REALLY, REALLY HAVE SUCH AN IMPORTANT JOB.
I'M APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE THE BOTH OF YOU.

NOT TOO LONG AGO, MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, YOU WERE RIGHT
HERE IN THE FRONT AND SWORE ME IN.
THAT WAS AN AWESOME MOMENT.
I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO FOR THE CITY.
10:28:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:28:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL AND EVERYBODY AT
THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE THERE.
I REMEMBER WHEN I SERVED ON THE CIVIL SERVICE REVIEW BOARD,
JIM CREW WAS ALWAYS WITH US.
JIM WAS FUNNY.
THE WAY HE IS AND SO FORTH.
BOTH OF YOU ALL, SUCH A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
SULING.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME LONG NIGHTS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
SOMETIMES YOUR SERVICE IS WEST GERMANY, SOMETIMES VIETNAM.
HERE IT GOES VIETNAM SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
IT'S FUNNY.
YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND SUCH A GREAT PERSON.
REAL PLEASURE TO SEE YOUR HUSBAND AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S MARVELOUS.
SHIRLEY, YOU ARE A TREMENDOUS PERSON.
I MEAN IT.

THE ROLE YOU PLAY IN YOUR PART HERE IN TAMPA MEANS A LOT TO
A LOT OF INSTITUTIONS AND PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE PRIDE IN YOU AND YOUR
ACCOMPLISHMENT AND WORK AND INTEGRITY.
I MET YOUR HUSBAND BEFORE WHO I KNOW IS MILITARY VETERAN.
I BELIEVE AIRBORNE HAT AND LICENSE PLATE.
WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FAMILIES AND JUST THE LOVE THAT YOU
BRING TO EVERY PART OF YOUR LIFE, YOUR VOCATION, PERSONAL
LIFE, FAMILY LIFE, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
ALWAYS COMES FROM THE SAME PLACE.
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU ALL.
10:29:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:29:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRO TEM HURTAK.
I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, ESPECIALLY I
THINK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID ABOUT THE SMILES.
BOTH SHIRLEY AND SULING, EVERY TIME I SEE YOU, YOU HAVE BIG
SMILES ON YOUR FACE.
BRING JOY AND HAPPINESS TO CITY HALL AND THE SERIOUS
BUSINESS THAT WE DO THAT'S ALWAYS HEARTWARMING.
I JUST LOVE THAT ABOUT YOU.
MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
YOU ARE THE GLUE THAT BINDS THE CITY BUSINESS TOGETHER AND
THE CONTINUITY BETWEEN COUNCILS AND BUSINESS THAT WE DO AS
BEING CHAIR, WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOU ALL, I CANNOT TELL YOU
HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO FOR ME, FOR CITY

COUNCIL, AND FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE'RE VERY WELL SERVED BY BOTH OF YOU.
TWO GREAT INDIVIDUALS.
I WISH WE COULD CLONE YOU AND MAKE A HUNDRED OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
10:30:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO ECHO ALL OF THIS.
MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, YOU HAVE BEEN WITH ME FROM MY VERY FIRST
JOURNEY.
I REMEMBER BEING SWORN IN BY YOU FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION, LIKE WAY BACK TO START MY START IN PUBLIC
SERVICE.
I'M ALWAYS GRATEFUL FOR YOUR CALM DEMEANOR AND JUST THE WAY
YOU MAKE EVERYONE FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OKAY.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU CARRY THAT THROUGH YOUR WORK BECAUSE YOU ALL
DO -- HONESTLY, RECORD KEEPING IS ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS
AND WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT IT.
THAT'S HOW GOOD YOU ARE.
IT'S SEAMLESS.
AND THEN MS. LUCAS HARRIS, WHEN I JOINED COUNCIL, IT WAS SO
OVERWHELMING AND YOU REALLY HELPED ME BECOME MORE CONFIDENT
IN WHO I WAS AND YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER, LIKE
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID, ANY QUESTION, ANYTHING.
BUT AGAIN, MAKING EVERYTHING MOVE SMOOTHLY, MAKING SURE
EVERYTHING IS WORKING, AND WE NOW HAVE A WHOLE SUCCESSION OF
PEOPLE THAT WE'VE WATCHED YOU TRAIN.

AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
WE MISS SEEING YOU ALL THE TIME, BUT ALSO, IT'S REALLY GREAT
THAT WE'RE CREATING THIS STABLE OF PEOPLE WHO COME -- WHO
CAN COME BEHIND YOU ALL.
THAT IS THE GREATNESS OF YOUR OFFICE AND WHAT YOU ALL DO.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL STAFF WHO REALLY SUPPORT YOU AND
YOU ARE HELPING TO BUILD THE NEXT GENERATION.
SAY HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS AND HOW MUCH WE THANK YOU.
AGAIN, GOING ON THE THEME FOR THE DAY, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS
TO SEE WOMEN IN THESE POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY WOMEN OF COLOR,
VERY IMPORTANT TO US AS A COMMUNITY, AND JUST, SO EVERYONE
HERE TODAY, WOMEN WATCHING, YOUNG GIRLS WATCHING, YOUNG BOYS
WATCHING, JUST SEEING HOW WONDERFUL AND DIVERSE OUR
COMMUNITY IS AND HOW WE REALLY JUST BELIEVE IN HELPING
PEOPLE GET EVEN FURTHER.
I'M REALLY, REALLY -- CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE HARD WORK YOU
PUT IN.
I KNOW WE'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU DOING THE SAME WORK
AND GETTING THESE RECOGNITIONS AND EARNING THIS VERY
IMPORTANT AWARD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE YOU.
ONE MORE ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:33:29AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:33:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'LL GIVE JUST A MOMENT SO THEY CAN EXIT.
APPARENTLY WE'RE GOING TO DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
WE WILL BE BACK AT 10:40 AND NOT A SECOND LATER.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[RECESS]
10:41:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE, TO TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL.
10:41:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
10:41:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
10:41:40AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
10:41:42AM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
CLENDENIN?
10:41:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
10:41:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
10:41:47AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
10:41:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
EXCELLENT.
IT IS NOW TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY FILLED OUT YOUR FORM, PLEASE DO SO
NOW.
AS IS CUSTOMARY, WE'LL START WITH PEOPLE WHO MENTIONED WHAT
THEY ARE HERE FOR THAT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
FIRST, WE HAVE TINA ADAMS.

THEN GREG CAMPBELL.
AND DARYL HYCH.
10:42:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS TINA ADAMS.
MY HOME IN PARKLAND ESTATES FLOODED LAST YEAR, ALONG WITH
OVER 300 HOMES AND BUSINESSES.
THANKFULLY, WE ARE BACK IN OUR HOME, BUT WE ARE STILL
WORKING ON REPAIRS OVER A YEAR LATER.
THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT HAS BEEN RESEARCHED AND
DESIGNED BY EXPERTS, ENGINEERS, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES WITH
MANY, MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA.
I TRUST THEM.
I BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY THEY CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM OR AT
LEAST ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING WE HAVE FROM EVERYDAY STORMS.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAPPENING AND STORMS AND FLOODING IS ONLY
GETTING WORSE.
MY FAMILY AND I HAVE SUPPORTED THE BUSINESSES ON HOWARD FOR
MANY YEARS.
NOW IS THEIR TURN TO SUPPORT THE FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS
THAT HAVE SUPPORTED THEM.
WE HAVE GONE TO BELLA'S BACK WHEN THEY HAD BROWN PAPER ON
THE TABLES AND THEY GAVE KIDS PIZZA DOUGH.
I'M SURE IT'S A CHOKING HAZARD NOW.
THEY DON'T GIVE IT ANYMORE.
I'M CONFUSED BY SOME OF THE STATEMENTS BY SOME OF THE

BUSINESSES AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.
THEY SAY BUSINESS IS GREAT, BUT IF THAT'S TRUE WHY IS HAVEN,
BURN'S SISTER RESTAURANT, APPLYING FOR DEMOLITION PERMIT AND
TOTALLY NEW CONCEPT?
ADDITIONALLY, WHY IS THE OWNER APPLYING FOR AN ENVIRONMENTAL
RESOURCE EXEMPTION PERMIT FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
WHEN THEY KNOW THERE IS A FLOODING PROBLEM?
WHY AREN'T THEY SUPPORTING THEIR NEIGHBORS?
WE SUPPORTED THEM.
IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, WHAT WILL BE YOUR
LEGACY?
WILL IT BE STANDING UP FOR FAMILIES AND HOMES?
DOING THE RIGHT THINGS BY NEIGHBORHOODS?
IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE?
OR WILL IT BE LETTING OVER $10 MILLION GO AWAY IN GRANT
FUNDING, JUST SLIP AWAY AND DOING NOTHING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COUNTING ON YOU AND WATCHING YOU.
PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
ACCEPT THE GRANT MONEY AND HELP US FEEL SAFE IN OUR HOMES
AGAIN.
10:45:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WE HAVE GREG CAMPBELL FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH AND DAVID
DeLOACH.
10:45:25AM >> MY NAME IS GREG CAMPBELL.
MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES ON A SITE MY PARENTS

BOUGHT IN 1953, 72 YEARS AGO.
ACROSS THOSE YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF HIGH WATER IN THE
AREA AND AROUND OUR HOUSE AND ALL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
AND INDEED AROUND THE CITY.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH COUNTLESS SUMMER THUNDERSTORMS AND GOOD
NUMBER OF HURRICANES.
THE CITY HAS TAKEN STEPS ACROSS THE YEARS TO IMPROVE THINGS
FOR ALL OF US, AND THOSE STEPS WERE SUCCESSFUL TO A DEGREE.
BUT BY FAR, THE BEST PROJECT TO EMERGE IN 70 YEARS IS THE
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
IT GOES FURTHER AND DOES MORE THAN ANYTHING THAT'S EVER BEEN
DONE BEFORE.
YOU HEARD OPPOSITION AND I SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THAT
PROJECT ONE YEAR AGO AS FAR AS BOX CULVERTS GOING THROUGH
NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE CONCERNED.
BUT THAT IDEA HAS BEEN ABANDONED, THANKFULLY, BY KIMMINS AND
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
AND SWANN TO HOWARD ROUTE IS THE OBVIOUSLY CORRECT ROUTE FOR
THE BOX CULVERTS.
BECAUSE OF THAT, THOSE OF US WHO WERE ELECTED TO THE BOARD
OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB IN OPPOSITION TO THE
SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT PUTTING BOX CULVERTS THROUGH
NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, THE VERY SAME PEOPLE ARE NOW
UNANIMOUSLY IN FAVOR OF THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF
PROJECT.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SWANN AVENUE ROUTE.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC
CLUB.
I'M NOT THE PRESIDENT, NOT EMPOWERED TO SPEAK FOR THE BOARD,
BUT THE BOARD HAS PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ITS MINUTES ARE
PUBLIC.
YOU CAN SEE IN THOSE MINUTES THE BOARD HAS VOTED 8-0 IN
FAVOR OF THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
IT DOES COST MONEY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF AN
ALMOST $2 BILLION BUDGET, ANNUAL BUDGET, FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA, AND IN THE CONTEXT OF A PROJECT LASTING AT LEAST
THREE OR FOUR YEARS, MAYBE MORE, THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THAT
TIME WILL SPEND A GOOD $10 BILLION AND WITHIN THAT AMOUNT,
IF WE REALLY DO FAVOR FLOOD RELIEF, WE CAN FIND THE
NECESSARY FUNDS FOR WHAT STARTED AS A $57 MILLION PROJECT.
SO MONEY IS NOT A BIG PROBLEM WITH GOOD MANAGEMENT IF WE ARE
INDEED COMMITTED TO FLOOD RELIEF.
AND BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN ESTUARY, FLOOD RELIEF IS IMPORTANT
NOT JUST TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS
THE ENTIRE CITY.
THANK YOU.
10:48:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DARYL HYCH.

AFTER THAT, DAVE DeLOACH, AND THEN STEVE MICHELINI.
10:48:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
DARYL HYCH.
THE OTHER DAY SOMEONE TOLD ME I WAS AN AGITATOR, AND THEN
SOMEONE ELSE TOLD ME THIS WEEK, THEY ASKED ME TO SAY
SOMETHING GOOD, AND I SAID GOOD EVENING.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AGITATORS ARE USING LAUNDRY -- ARE USED IN LAUNDRY IN THE
WASHING MACHINE TO CLEAN UP DIRT, CLEAN UP SOIL THAT'S
INSIDE THE WASHING MACHINE.
ITEM NUMBER 56, MS. OCEA WYNN IS GOING TO PROVIDE A LIST OF
CITY VENUES, RESTAURANTS, CATERERS AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT
THE CITY CAN USE.
I HAVE A LIST OF RESTAURANTS THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO, AND
NONE OF THESE RESTAURANTS HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ON
THE LIST OR AT LEAST HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING WITH OCEA
WYNN.
VENUE 2106, MADISON 2.0, TABLE 22, COASIS, MR. B'S, 7th
AND GROVE, MANGOS, SOUL DE CUBA, DUNNS RIVER.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW NAMES OF RESTAURANTS THAT MAY OR MAY
NOT BE ON THE LIST BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED TO BE
ON THIS LIST.
THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO RESOLUTION 568.
THIS WEEK, ON TWO OCCASIONS, THE CITY STOOD BEFORE BLACK AND
MINORITY LEADERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND LIED TO THEM.

A CITY LEADER TOLD US ON MONDAY THAT WE CAN GO TO THE CITY
WEBSITE, LOG ON, AND GET MBE, WMBE CERTIFICATIONS.
AND THEN THEY TOLD TO US CLICK ON THE WELCOME LETTER.
THE WELCOME LETTER WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET
CERTIFIED.
SO I CLICKED ON THAT WEBSITE.
THE WEBSITE SAID WE CAN NO LONGER DO THIS BASED UPON THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER GIVEN BACK IN JANUARY.
AND THEN SHE TRIED TO EXPLAIN HER CASE BY SOUNDING FOR THE
MOST PART LIKE CHARLIE BROWN.
MWAH, MWAH, MWAH.
WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WASN'T TRUE.
TUESDAY, I ATTENDED THE CAC MEETING.
THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AT THE CAC MEETING, DOES ANYBODY HAVE
EXPERIENCE WITH EXTENDING THE CRAs FOR DIFFERENT AREAS?
AND THE NEW MANAGER WAS THERE.
THE NEW MANAGER, AND MR. McCRAY BOTH SAT THERE IN SILENCE
AND SAID THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE AND DON'T HAVE ANY
KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXTENSION.
THE NEW MANAGER BEEN IN PINELLAS COUNTY FOR 13 YEARS.
LO AND BEHOLD, SAFETY HARBOR JUST DID AN EXTENSION.
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS?
YOU GET PAID TO COME AND GIVE US THE INFORMATION.
ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE RIGHT NOW TODAY, THEY HAVE A LINK ON
THERE FOR THE LGBTQ TO GET CERTIFIED AS THAT.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT GENDER CERTIFICATION THAN IT
IS WITH YOU REMOVING THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE?
SAME DIFFERENCE.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON FOR THEM TO ALLOW
THAT TO STAY THERE.
THANK YOU.
10:51:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DAVID DeLOACH, FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI AND EDWARD DE
LA HART.
10:51:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DAVE DeLOACH.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND THE PRINCIPAL WITH DeLOACH
ENGINEERING SCIENCE, SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTH
HOWARD BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN MY ROLE AS A TECHNICAL
CONSULTANT.
TO BE CLEAR, I'M CERTAINLY NOT HERE TO OPPOSE FLOOD
MITIGATION OR SEEKING STATE FUNDING TO PERFORM MITIGATION,
FLOODING IN SOUTH TAMPA IS REAL, AND IT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED.
MY COMMENTS ARE NARROWLY FOCUSED ON THE FDEP RESILIENCY
GRANT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND WHETHER THE PROJECT
RECORD IS TECHNICALLY SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE CITY'S
OBLIGATION UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
THE GRANT DOESN'T SIMPLY PROVIDE FUNDING, IT REQUIRES THE
CITY TO DEMONSTRATE TECHNICAL SUFFICIENCY.

IT ALSO REQUIRES COMPLETION APPROVAL OF REQUIRED
DELIVERABLES, SUCH AS THE SEA LEVEL IMPACT PROJECTION OR
SLIP STUDY, CONSISTENCY WITH RESILIENCE OBJECTIVES AND
ACHIEVEMENT OF DEFINED PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
THE MEASUREMENT ALSO MAKES CLEAR THAT PERMITS ARE NOT
GUARANTEED, AND THAT UNANTICIPATED COMPLIANCE ISSUES CANNOT
BE RESOLVED USING GRANT FUNDS.
BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY TECHNICAL ASSESSMENT OF THE
PROJECT, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS WHERE THE RECORD
DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH GRANT REQUIREMENTS.
THE FIRST OF THESE IN THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS.
THE CITY PREVIOUSLY REJECTED MULTIPLE, TECHNICALLY VIABLE
ALTERNATIVES, ADVANCED BY ITS OWN CONSULTANTS AS BEING TOO
COSTLY OR TOO DISRUPTIVE.
TODAY, THE CITY IS ADVANCING A SOLUTION THAT IS FAR MORE
EXPENSIVE AND FAR MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN THOSE REJECTED
ALTERNATIVES, WITHOUT REEVALUATING THEM UNDER CURRENT COST
AND RISK ASSUMPTIONS.
THE STATE IS NOT FUNDING A CONCEPT IN ISOLATION.
IT CONSIDERS THE DECISION PROCESS.
IF ALTERNATIVES WERE ELIMINATED USING CRITERIA THAT THE CITY
NO LONGER APPLIES CONSISTENTLY, THEN THE RECORD DOESN'T
SUPPORT THAT THE SELECTED PROJECT IS THE MOST REASONABLE USE
OF THE GRANT FUNDS.
SECOND, UNDER TIDAL AND SEA LEVEL RESILIENCE, CURRENT PLAN

RELIES ON LARGE GRAVITY CONVEYANCE TO A TIDAL WATER, YET THE
RECORD DOESN'T DEMONSTRATE HOW KING TIDES, STORM SURGE OR
FUTURE ELEVATION CHANGES IN THE BAY WILL BE PREVENTED FROM
PROPAGATING INLAND.
SLIP STUDY HAS NOT BEEN PREPARED TO CLOSE THE GAP AND PUMP
ASSISTANCE OR CONTROLLED ALTERNATIVES ARE NO LONGER BEING
RECONSIDERED.
THIRD, PERFORMANCE AND ECONOMIC IMPACT.
THE PROJECT'S BENEFIT COST FRAMEWORK -- AVOIDED FLOOD DAMAGE
BUT NOT FORESEEABLE ECONOMIC HARM.
THESE DEFICIENCIES, IF THESE DEFICIENCIES PERSIST, THE
RAMIFICATIONS ARE STRAIGHTFORWARD.
PRUDENT STEP TODAY WOULD BE JUST TO DELAY THE APPROVAL UNTIL
STAFF PROVIDES A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON OF A PREVIOUSLY
REJECTED ALTERNATIVES AND THE CURRENT PLAN USING COMMON,
COST RISK AND CONSTRUCTABILITY ASSUMPTIONS, INCLUDING THE
DEGREE TO WHICH EACH ALTERNATIVE MEETS TIDAL RESILIENCE
REQUIREMENTS, EXPANDING THE BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS TO INCLUDE
IMPACTS OF EACH ALTERNATIVE.
10:55:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEPHEN MICHELINI FOLLOWED BY EDWARD DE LA PARTE AND DAVID.
10:55:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
THIS PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED TO YOU IS NOT READY.
IT IS BASED ON INFORMATION THAT IS LACKING, THAT'S REQUIRED.

THIS STARTED OFF AS A SMALL-SCALE PROJECT THAT WAS SUPPOSED
TO IDENTIFY AND SOLVE SUMMER STORM ISSUES, YET THE PROPOSAL
THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU CALLS OUT A HUNDRED-YEAR STORM
DESIGN.
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT DESIGN.
IT'S NOT READY.
THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED 30% OF THE DESIGN CRITERIA.
THEY ELIMINATED REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES WITHOUT ANY
DISCUSSION, AND WITHOUT IT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU.
MAINTENANCE IS A KEY ISSUE HERE, AND IT SHOULD BECOME THE
PRIORITY.
FUNDING.
THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO COMMIT -- AND THESE ARE IN THEIR
DOCUMENTS -- $54.9 MILLION IN MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE CITY.
YOU'VE BEEN TOLD TWICE BY THE CFO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE
THAT.
WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?
YOU ARE BEING FACED WITH, AND I THINK THE CFO TOLD YOU, THEY
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE TAXES OR INCREASE THE STORMWATER
FEE OR BOTH.
THE DESIGN CRITERIA THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE GRANT HAS NOT
BEEN MET.
THE SMALL-SCALE PROJECT HAS GROWN.
THE NARRATIVE IT CALLS FOR 6,000 LINEAR FEET OF BOX
CULVERTS.

IT NEVER SHOWS YOU WHERE.
SAYS 259-ACRE AREA WITH SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS BEING AFFECTED.
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER REGARDING WHERE THIS IS
GOING TO COME FROM, WHAT THE DESIGN CRITERIA IS FOR.
IT SAYS -- I'VE ALREADY DRIVEN UP AND DOWN SOUTH HOWARD.
IT SAYS THAT THERE'S NO STORMWATER SYSTEM AT ALL ON SOUTH
HOWARD.
SIMPLY INACCURATE.
NOT TRUE.
BUT THEY HAVE IT IN THERE AND THEY SAID THAT'S ONE OF THE
CRITERIA THEY ARE USING FOR THIS GRANT.
THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY THE SCOPE AND THE PLAN FOR THIS
PROJECT.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT THERE.
THIS IS A VERY COMPETITIVE GRANT APPLICATION THAT OTHER
CITIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DYING FOR THAT MONEY AND
THEY HAVE PLANS AND THEY ARE READY TO GO.
THE CITY OF TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE IT.
THEY HAVE FAILED IN EVERY RESPECT.
I CAN COUNT OFF AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT
ARE CONTAINED IN THEIR GRANT APPLICATION THAT THEY SIMPLY
HAVEN'T MET.
IN TALKING WITH CITY STAFF, THEY TOLD ME THIS WAS NEVER
DESIGNED FOR A LARGE-SCALE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY KIND FOR
STORMWATER.

WASN'T DESIGNED FOR THAT, SO THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT THEY
HAVE IN THERE SIMPLY DON'T MATCH WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE PROPOSED WERE NEVER FULLY EXAMINED OR
PRODUCED.
WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
THERE ARE PUMPS AND PUMP STATIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN
THERE, INCLUDING A PUMP STATION IN PARKLAND ESTATES THAT WAS
ROUTINELY JUST REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.
THEY SHOULD BE EXAMINED AND THIS SHOULD NOT BE GOING
FORWARD.
10:58:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EDWARD DE LA PARTE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO READ THE END OF THAT.
DAVID LACHSTER AND VICTOR DEMAIO.
10:58:32AM >> EDWARD DE LA PARTE, ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE SOHO
BUSINESS ALLIANCE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPOSED GRANT
AMENDMENT.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS IS SIMPLY EXTENDING
THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE GRANT FROM JUNE 2026 TO JUNE
2027, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
THIS IS A COMPLETE REWRITE OF THE GRANT THAT WAS SIGNED BY
THE CITY IN 2024.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT, EVERY ATTACHMENT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THAT
GRANT IS COMPLETELY REWRITTEN.

IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ATTACHMENT.
YOU SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST BEEN PROVIDED WITH A RED-LINED
SHOWING WHAT THE DIFFERENCES WERE BETWEEN THE ATTACHMENTS.
THEY ALSO ADDED NEW EXHIBITS THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE.
THE GRANT ITSELF CONTAINS REQUIREMENTS THAT SIMPLY ARE ONES
THAT YOU CANNOT COMPLY WITH.
ATTACHMENT 1A HAS A PROVISION, PARAGRAPH 44 THAT SAYS THAT
YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY, REPRESENT THAT THE
INFORMATION PROVIDED TO DEP ARE CURRENT, COMPLETE, AND
ACCURATE, AND THAT ALL STATEMENTS AND INFORMATION IN THE
GRANT AS WELL AS THE ATTACHMENT AND EXHIBITS ARE CORRECT.
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THIS GRANT AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE
COMPLETED IN JUNE 2027.
GET ON YOUR WEBSITE, IT SAYS IT WON'T BE COMPLETED UNTIL
2029.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THOSE TWO STATEMENTS?
THIS GRANT AGREEMENT SAYS THIS PROJECT IS INTENDED TO DEAL
WITH THE HUNDRED-YEAR FLOODPLAIN, BUT ON YOUR WEBSITE FOR
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, IT SAYS, NO, THAT'S NOT THE
CASE.
ONLY DEAL WITH THE FIVE-YEAR FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENT.
WHICH IS JUST INTENDED FOR NORMAL, EVERYDAY WET WEATHER
CONDITIONS.
THIS GRANT AGREEMENT HAS A PROVISION THAT OBLIGATES A CITY

TO PAY 84.5% OF THE GRANT AMOUNT.
NOW, SOME MAY ARGUE THAT'S LIMITED TO THE ORIGINAL 2022
ESTIMATE, WHICH IS 84% WOULD BE ABOUT 54.9 MILLION GALLONS A
DAY, BUT IT ISN'T CLEAR TO ME THAT'S THE CASE.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS GRANT -- WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COST OF
THE PROJECT INFLATES TO A HUNDRED MILLION AND YOU ACCEPT
THIS GRANT, TAKE MONEY FROM THIS GRANT, ARE YOU THEN
COMMITTED TO PAY 84% OF THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT?
FINALLY, THE CITY HAS BEEN RELUCTANT TO DO AN ECONOMIC
IMPACT ANALYSIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER PERMIT FOR
THE DISCHARGE POINT.
THAT'S A MAJOR FEDERAL ACTION, WHICH UNDER THE NATIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ACT, OR NEPA, REQUIRES THAT
YOU LOOK AT IMPACT ON LOCAL BUSINESSES.
WHY ASSIGN THIS GRANT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ALL YOUR DUCKS IN
A ROW?
YOU SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RELOOK AT THIS
SITUATION.
THANK YOU.
11:01:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DAVID LACHSTER, FOLLOWED BY VICTOR DiMAIO AND STEPHANIE
POYNOR.
11:01:41AM >> I'M NOT DAVID LACHSTER.
BUT HE HAD TO LEAVE.

11:01:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON TO VICTOR DiMAIO.
11:01:47AM >> YES, I AM VICTOR DiMAIO, FRANKLIN STREET.
I DO REPRESENT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES IN SOUTH HOWARD.
I'M HERE TODAY TO PIGGY BACK THE FACT WHEN I WAS HERE LAST,
I DID MENTION TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE DID RETAIN ED DE LA
PARTE 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN STORMWATER LEGAL LITIGATION
AND DAVID DeLOACH, STORMWATER ENGINEER FROM ORLANDO.
ONE OF THE THINGS JUST MENTIONED, MR. DeLOACH IS
SPEARHEADING.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN 80 PAGE ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.
IT'S NOT FINISHED YET, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.
IT STATES THAT THE DAMAGES THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED SO FAR TO
ALL THE BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN HOWARD AVENUE IS ABOUT $35
MILLION.
NOW, THE BUSINESS MAY SURVIVE, BUT WHAT WILL DO YOU WITH THE
THOUSANDS OF JOBS.
THESE ARE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK FOR A LIVING.
RESTAURANT WORK IS TOUGH.
WORK AT NIGHTS.
WHO IS GOING TO -- ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO PAY THE SALARIES OF
THESE PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHERE THEY ARE LAID
OFF?
WHO IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE KIDS, THE FAMILIES, THE
MORTGAGES OF ALL THESE PEOPLE FOR FOUR YEARS?
WHEN YOU SHUT DOWN HOWARD TO PUT IN THAT CULVERT THAT GOES

FROM CURB TO CURB, WHICH ISN'T A LITTLE PIPE, AND YOU SAW
THE DAMAGE, RESTAURANTS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT LITERALLY
WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE TODAY IF YOU PASS
THIS PARTICULAR THING THAT'S ON THE COUNCIL.
TO REITERATE WHAT THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN SAID, THERE ARE
MAJOR, MAJOR FLAWS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE TO BE
CORRECTED.
I WOULD URGE YOU GUYS TO DELAY THIS UNTIL YOU GET ANSWERS.
LIKE WHERE THE $54 MILLION IS COMING FROM.
THE MAYOR IS GOING TO LAY AN EGG ON THIS DEAL AND YOU GUYS
HAVE TO LIVE FOR IT.
EVERYONE HERE IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION.
YOU'LL HAVE TO ANSWER, WHY APPROVED $44 MILLION THAT WE
DON'T HAVE.
WHY SUBMITTED A STATEMENT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, GOING
TO HAVE TO APPROVE THIS, ATTESTING TO THE FACT THAT
EVERYTHING IN THERE IS CORRECT WHEN IT'S NOT.
YOU GUYS ARE ON THE HOOK AND YOU SHOULD TAKE A BREATH AND
THINK ABOUT IT.
LISTEN, WE HAVE MR. DeLOACH IDENTIFIED ALTERNATIVES TO
THIS PIPE TO GO FROM SWANN TO HOWARD THAT'S UPWARDS TO A
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WILL COST LESS AND YOU DON'T
HAVE TO DO THE PIPE DOWN HOWARD.
THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

YOU'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE, REITERATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO
THE PIPE DOWN HOWARD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ALTERNATIVES, WHICH
WE CAN SUGGEST THAT THE CITY WILL NOT LISTEN TO US BECAUSE
WE BEGGED THEM TO TRY AND THEY WON'T LISTEN, BECAUSE THIS IS
THE ONLY ANSWER, BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO DOING THIS
PROJECT.
TO COLLECT THE WATER.
AS YOU KNOW, AS THAT WATER SHOOTS DOWN HOWARD FROM SWANN TO
BAYSHORE AND IT'S HIGH TIDE AND NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO,
THAT WATER IS GOING TO GO BACK UP ON HOWARD.
11:04:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, FOLLOWED BY JARROD DYER AND CONNIE BURTON.
11:04:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
NUMBER 25, ETHICS COMMITTEE REPORT, LIKE IT BE REMOVED THAT
IT IS SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL AS IT WAS WHEN THEY WROTE THAT
DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT UNPAID CITIZENS ARE NOT
LOBBYIST.
45, JULIAN B. LANE.
FIXING DOCKS DAMAGED BY OTHERS.
THAT IS AN INSURANCE ISSUE.
NOT AN EVERYBODY ELSE THAT PAYS TAXES ISSUES.
JULIAN B. LANE BRINGS IN THEIR OWN FUNDING, GET OUT OF THE
SMALL PARKS FUND.
GADSDEN PARK, ADA BATHROOMS BEGGED FOR BY LITTLE LEAGUE.

BILL CARLSON AND I MET WITH THEM ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO ABOUT
THE BATHROOMS.
STILL NEED THEM.
BALLAST POINT PARK, STILL HAVEN'T FIXED THE PIER.
$2 MILLION FROM THEA TO FIX THE PARK AT THE END OF GANDY.
$650,000 FOR THEM USING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON PRESCOTT.
NOW, THAT IS SOUTH TAMPA MONEY.
WHERE IS IT?
LET'S USE IT ON SOUTH TAMPA PARKS.
PEOPLE SAY SOUTH TAMPA GETS EVERYTHING.
WHAT A JOKE.
NUMBER 32, WHERE ARE THE MAPS OF THE AREA?
THE THING ABOUT IT IS, THE SAME CONTRACTOR DID THE
MacDILL 48 DOING THIS PROJECT.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE DATA FROM THAT CONTRACTOR THAT SAYS HOW
LONG WAS HIMES CLOSED.
HIMES WAS CLOSED FOREVER.
WELL OVER A YEAR, I WOULD GUESS.
THEY HAVE THE DATA.
SHOW IT TO YOU, BECAUSE THEY ARE TELLING YOU IT IS ONLY
GOING TO BE CLOSED A WEEK OR TWO AT A TIME WHICH IS BULL IN
MY OPINION.
WE JUST HAD AN EXPERT UP HERE THAT I ASKED TO E-MAIL TO YOU
THE DOCUMENTATION THAT BACKS IT UP.
WE DON'T HAVE $54 MILLION, FOLKS.

WE DON'T HAVE $54 MILLION TO PAY OUR PART.
WHEN YOU SIGN OFF ON THAT CRAP TODAY, WHERE IS THE MONEY
COMING FROM?
I DON'T SIGN PAPER WORK IF I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY
SOMETHING.
YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IF YOU ARE SPENDING ALL OF THE REST OF OUR STORMWATER
ASSESSMENT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS THIS
THE BEST USE OF OUR MONEY?
BOCA RATON VERSUS FLORIDA, LOOK IT UP.
I SENT YOU THE DOCUMENTS.
WEST RIVERWALK.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WE WENT TO THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT, THERE ARE NOT ONE
BUT TWO PARTS OF THE WEST RIVERWALK THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
PRIVATELY INSTALLED.
SO WHEN WE ARE DONE SPENDING $50 MILLION ON THIS CRAP, WE'LL
STILL HAVE TWO PARTS.
GUESS WHAT, SAME VENDOR, SAME GUYS THAT HAVE ROME YARD.
JUST REMEMBER, THEY STILL HAVEN'T FINISHED ROME YARD.
IT WAS APPROVED THE SAME TIME HANNA STREET WAS APPROVED.
IT WAS APPROVED THE SAME TIME THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
NEXT TO DAIRY JOY WAS APPROVED, AND THEY ARE JUST NOW
GETTING STARTED ON IT.
SO WE'LL TRUST THEM -- I ASKED FOR THE CONTRACT.

I WANT TO SEE THE CONTRACT.
IT IS A BONUS AGREEMENT CONTRACT.
SO WHAT IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT THE EXTRA 400
APARTMENTS THAT THEY SIGNED UP FOR THE BONUS AGREEMENT FOR?
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, STORMWATER TOLD US THIS WEEK THAT THEY
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS.
11:08:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JARROD DYER FOLLOWED BY CONNIE BURTON AND CARROLL ANN
BENNETT.
11:08:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JARROD DYER.
I'M WITH BELLA'S ITALIAN CAFE, SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESSES.
BEEN BEFORE YOU ALL BEFORE.
I'M KIND OF FRAZZLED WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE
EVERY DIRECTION I LOOK THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT PROBLEM.
I'LL KIND OF RANDOMLY THROW OUT BULLET POINTS, SORT OF.
MY INITIAL ISSUE WITH THE PLAN WAS NOT REFUSAL TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE NEED FOR RELIEF FROM OUR NEIGHBORS IN
PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES.
IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE DEVASTATION TO THE SOUTH HOWARD
BUSINESSES.
AS I LEARNED MORE LISTENING TO DAVE DeLOACH, EDWARD DE LA
PARTE, STEVE MICHELINI, ALL THE RESEARCH AND PEOPLE THEY
HAVE TALKED TO, I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS STILL MOVING
FORWARD AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE FORM THAT IT

IS.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
THE BUDGET KEEPS INCREASING.
STARTED AT 65 MILLION.
NOW THEY ARE SAYING 100 TO $120 MILLION.
THE RESILIENCY GRANT AGENDA ITEM 32 REQUIRES THE CITY TO
MATCH FUNDS, $54 MILLION, WHERE IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM?
ARE WE GOING TO INCREASE TAXES ON THE WHOLE CITY TO PAY FOR
THIS SMALL AREA OF THE CITY?
THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT WAS INTENDED, OBVIOUSLY, TO
SUPPORT THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, BUT IT WAS RECENTLY REVEALED
THAT 75% OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO SALARIES.
75% OF THAT ASSESSMENT, AND THEN WE FIND OUT THAT
MAINTENANCE WASN'T DONE FOR SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THE STORMS
OF 2024 AND THE PUMPS WEREN'T WORKING.
MAYBE SOME OF THAT MONEY WASN'T GOING TO SALARIES, MAYBE
DONE IN MAINTENANCE, HOW BIG OF A DIFFERENCE WOULD THAT HAVE
MADE?
THIS PROJECT, CURRENTLY, IT WOULD USE ALL OF THE FUNDS
INTENDED FOR THE ENTIRE CITY STORMWATER ISSUES, LEAVING
NOTHING FOR ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE FOREST
HILLS, WHICH ALSO FLOODED TERRIBLY.
SO THIS ONE PROJECT, ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST AREAS OF THE CITY
GOING TO GET ALL OF THE RESOURCES AND THE REST OF THE CITY
IS LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES?

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
NO ECONOMIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT ISN'T REQUIRED.
BUT THE IMPACTS CAN BE DEVASTATING.
JUST BECAUSE IT ISN'T REQUIRED, IT COULD BE REQUIRED.
YOU COULD SAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WANT AN ECONOMIC
STUDY DONE.
YOU CAN'T BURY YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND DON'T KNOW HOW BAD
IT WILL BE.
IT WILL BE BAD.
$35 MILLION, MUCH MORE THAN ANNUAL GROSS BY FACT -- IN
GROSS.
ROUTE NOW SET AS SWANN TO HOWARD.
THE DISRUPTION IS GOING TO COMPLETELY FALL ON THE
BUSINESSES.
PARKLAND ESTATES IS NOW FREE AND CLEAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUSHED FOR THAT OR HOW IT WORKED OUT,
IF KIMMINS DECIDED.
THEY ARE CLEAR OF THE DISRUPTION OF GETTING IN AND OUT OF
HOUSES.
JUST THE BUSINESSES.
TINA ADAMS SAID IT IS TIME FOR BUSINESSES TO STEP UP AND
SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORS.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF NOT SUPPORTING NEIGHBORS, MATTER OF
SUPPORTING 60 EMPLOYEES JUST AT MY RESTAURANT STILL HAVE

JOBS AND OUR BUSINESS SURVIVES.
AFTER THIS, ONLY HELP THE FLOODING BY REDUCING FOUR INCHES?
I MEAN, IT'S JUST CRAZY.
11:11:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CONNIE BURTON, FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT, FOLLOWED BY
JAMES ADAIR.
IF EITHER MS. SCHARF OR MR. THOMAS COULD COME UP, I WOULD
APPRECIATE IT.
11:11:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
I WAS REALLY MOVED THIS MORNING BY THE CEREMONY.
WHAT I SAW WAS BLACK EXCELLENT.
GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, HOW WELL OUR PEOPLE CAN DO.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECALL THE REMEMBRANCE OF THINKING
ABOUT THE YOUNG EXPLORERS OF MARTIN LEE ANDERSON.
14-YEAR-OLD CHILD THAT WAS KILLED IN ONE DAY OF BEING IN THE
CUSTODY OF THE BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SUFFOCATED
TO DEATH BASED ON DEMONSTRATION AND SECOND AUTOPSY, WE FOUND
OUT HE DIDN'T DIE JUST FROM SICKLE CELL ANEMIA.
IF THAT 14-YEAR-OLD HAD BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, WE DON'T
KNOW 20 YEARS LATER WHAT HE COULD HAVE BECAME.
ITEM 54 -- 55, THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
WHEN WE RAN THAT PROGRAM, START ADVOCATING FOR THAT PROGRAM,
WE CAME HERE BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT EAST TAMPA, OUR
CHILDREN DIDN'T HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES.
WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM WAS THAT IF YOU WERE GOING TO

PARTICIPATE IN SUMMER JOB PROGRAM, YOU HAD TO PICK UP TRASH.
NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
NOTHING WRONG WITH LANDSCAPING.
WE JUST SAID WE WANTED MORE.
WHAT DID THE CITY DO?
THEY SNATCHED THE PROGRAM, MADE IT CITYWIDE AND ONLY SEVEN
CHILDREN FROM EAST TAMPA LAST YEAR HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PARTICIPATE.
SEVEN.
YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DOING, IF THE
ELDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, CITY STAFF LEADERSHIP DO NOT PAVE
THE WAY.
34, 32, 48, WHATEVER THE SMALL NUMBERS ARE FOR THIS YEAR, IT
IS NOT ENOUGH.
YOU HAVE TOO MANY BUSINESS PARTNERS, YOU GIVE OUT TOO MUCH
MONEY.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE FRONT END ADVOCATING THAT
CHILDREN, YOUNG PEOPLE NEED OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY FROM THAT.
IN YOUR RETURNING CITIZEN, MOVED TO HANNA.
RESOURCE CENTER, TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO GO IF THEY NEED
HOUSING.
TELL PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN GO, LOOP, DOWN HILL SPIRAL OF
NOTHINGISM.
THIS MAYOR GOING TO BE OUT OF HERE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

MARCH 2027 SHE BE GONE.
BUT WHAT WILL YOUR LEGACY SAY?
ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED AND YOU SAY
YOU LOVE, YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THE HELL WE WAS ABLE TO MAKE --
TALKING ABOUT BLACK FOLKS NOW.
THROUGH ALL THE SEGREGATION, ALL THE POLICIES, ALL THE
POVERTY, WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW, THIS COUNCIL,
TURN THE WHEEL REAL FAST AND SAY ANYTHING THAT COME TO THIS
COUNCIL THAT DO NOT SHOW THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD BLACK
EXCELLENCE -- THANK YOU.
11:14:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY JAMES ADAIR AND ROBIN
LOCKETT.
11:14:46AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
TREES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE, PERIOD.
THEY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY THE CITY THE SAME WAY THE ROADS,
THE SIDEWALKS, AND STORMWATER IS FUNDED.
THIS IS THE ANNUAL TREE -- THIS IS THE TREE REPORT DONE
EVERY FIVE YEARS.
IN 2021, THE BENEFITS FOR TREES WERE $306 MILLION A YEAR.
STORMWATER ALONE, ALMOST $5 MILLION A YEAR IN 2021.
TREES ARE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS SHOWING THE INTERCEPTION OF RAINWATER BY TREES.

THIS 22-INCH CALIPER PLANE TREE, ALMOST 80% INTERCEPTION.
THIS DOCUMENT THAT I'VE GOT HERE, THIS IS A REPORT PREPARED
BY THE CITY.
ON PAGE 19, IT DISCUSSES THE COMPARISON OF HOW 667 U.S.
COMMUNITIES, HOW -- WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES DO AND HOW IT
COMPARES TO WHAT TAMPA DOES.
WE ARE WOEFULLY UNDERFUNDING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT SAYS HERE THAT TAMPA IS 2.95 MILLION IN FY '24 AND SHOULD
BE 4.5 MILLION TO 9.9 MILLION, COMPARED TO THE OTHER 667
U.S. COMMUNITIES.
YOU SHOULD REALLY READ THIS REPORT IF YOU CAN.
ITEM 48, TRANSFER OF MONEY FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND TO THE
WATER DEPARTMENT.
WATER DEPARTMENT DID NOTHING WRONG.
THEY DID A GOOD THING.
TRIED TO DO A GOOD THING.
I WANT OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DO THE SAME THING.
THE DEVIL WAS IN THE DETAILS.
THEY SPENT 85% OF THE MONEY ON TYPE 3s.
THE TREE FUND MONEY EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF SHADE
TREES.
TREE FUND MONEY SHOULD BE USED TO REPLACE SHADE TREES.
PLEASE, ALLOCATE MONEY TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT FROM THE TREE
FUND FOR THE TYPE ONE AND THE TYPE TWOS, BUT THE REST OF IT
SHOULD COME FROM THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS TO BE

FUNDING THE TREES.
THEY ARE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT TREES ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO
LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH ISSUES, THE
ENERGY SAVINGS, THIS GIANT LIST I HAVE HERE, THEY ARE MORE
AFFECTED.
YET $282,000 OF THAT 334 IS COMING FROM THE CENTRAL TAMPA
DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES SOME OF THE LOWEST INCOME AREAS OF
THE CITY.
SO THEY ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON TYPE THREE TREES THAT
ARE NOT GOING TO HELP THEIR CHILDREN WITH ASTHMA, THAT ARE
NOT GOING TO HELP ELDERLY PEOPLE WITH LOWER ENERGY COSTS.
SO, PLEASE, ONLY PAY FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND THE AMOUNT FOR
THE TYPE ONES AND TYPE TWOS, AND IN THE FUTURE, NO TREE
TRUST FUND MONEY EXCEPT FOR TYPE ONES AND TWOS.
THANK YOU.
11:17:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JAMES ADAIR, FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKET AND ELIZABETH
DINWIDDIE.
11:18:00AM >> IS THAT RIGHT SIDE UP?
11:18:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEP.
11:18:03AM >> WE HAVE TO DO THE ZOOM.
GUYS, I'M NEW TO THIS.
HOW IS THAT?
PERFECT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE AV.
DON'T START MY CLOCK.
JAMES ADAIR, THE AGENT WHO CARES, FROM SOUTH OF GANDY.
HOLD TIGHT.
THE SCANDAL.
11:18:28AM >> ISSUE THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2025.
THE QUESTION, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BAYSHORE SIDEWALKS
AND WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE A VENDOR WHO IS GIVING US THE
NUMBER OF PANELS THAT NEED TO BE DONE INSTEAD OF US TELLING
THEM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE?
LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
ORIGINALLY THIS E-MAIL GOT STARTED SAID, ESSENTIALLY, HEY,
DURING 2024, WE HAVE A TON OF JAGGED SIDEWALKS.
BEFORE GASPARILLA STARTS, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THESE
THINGS FIXED.
SO A VENDOR WAS CONTRACTED OR TOLD TO GO OUT TO GET A PANEL
COUNT.
IT WAS LIKE 147 PANELS.
THEY WANT IT DONE BEFORE THE PARADE.
WELL, THIS WAS LIKE A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME TO PULL THIS
OFF.
GOING TO BE VERY HARD.
THE VENDOR GOT EXCITED AND STARTED PERMITS.
ALL OF THAT IS LIKE IN PLAY AND STILL IN THE SYSTEM.
THE REST OF THE BIDDING PROCESS WAS COMING IN.

TURNS OUT THEY COULDN'T DO THESE PANELS BECAUSE IT'S MORE
THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED BY OUR INTERLOCK AGREEMENT WITH
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS A COUNTY ROAD.
BAYSHORE IS A COUNTY ROAD.
IT IS A MULTIMODAL COUNTY ROAD, SO WE COULDN'T DO IT THAT
WAY.
AFTER WE DID MORE INVESTIGATION TO FIGURE OUT WHO, WHY, WHAT
WAS GOING ON, I WALKED THE ENTIRE BAYSHORE AND I DIDN'T SEE
VERY MANY PANELS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AT ALL.
I WAS GOING TO PUT LIKE A LITTLE QUARTER IN THERE AND TAKE A
PICTURE, AND IF IT WAS WIDER THAN A QUARTER, I ONLY CAME UP
WITH 135 PICTURES.
THE OTHER DAY, I REWALKED IT AND I REALIZED THERE WAS
ALREADY GRINDING THAT HAD HAPPENED THAT POSSIBLY HAD NOT
HAPPENED WHEN THE CONTRACTS WERE ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED,
MEANING, WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE BIDS, IT MIGHT
HAVE BEEN MORE JAGGED THAN WHEN I WALKED IT.
WHEN I WALKED IT AGAIN, I STARTED COUNTING EACH INDIVIDUAL
PANEL PROBABLY ALREADY FIXED.
SURE ENOUGH, IT EASILY WAS GOING TO ADD UP TO 140 AND CHANGE
PANELS.
MYSTERY SOLVED WHERE THE 140 CAME FROM.
THE OTHER PART THAT I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT THAT GOT THIS DONE, THEY FOUND A VENDOR THAT
WOULD COME AND GRIND DOWN TO MAKE LEVEL TO REMOVE THE

TRIPPING HAZARD.
KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR SAVING A TON OF MONEY.
ORIGINAL BID WAS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT FOR ONLY -- ONLY LIKE TEN
BUCKS A FOOT TO HAVE IT GROUND DOWN.
SAVED US A TON OF MONEY.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN THESE THINGS GET GOING WE NEED TO
HAVE FOLLOW UP AND WE DID AND NOW WE KNOW WHAT A GREAT JOB
MOBILITY DID.
THANK YOU, GUYS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE ASK FOR ACCOUNTABILITY,
WHEN WE FIND ANSWERS AND THEY ARE GREAT ANSWERS, WE NEED TO
SHARE THOSE AS WELL.
THANK YOU, GUYS.
11:21:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ROBIN LOCKETT, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE AND TARAH
BLUMA.
11:21:26AM >> I DIDN'T START SPEAKING.
WHY YOU START MY TIME?
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS ROBIN LOCKETT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS, ITEM NUMBER 59, UNDERSTAND LATER ON
TODAY YOU GUYS WILL BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY.

PLEASE KEEP THE YELLOW JACKETS IN YOUR MINDSET FOR THIS.
BY THE TIME THE BUILDING -- I UNDERSTAND 1.5 HAS BEEN
RESERVED.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUILDING COSTS GOING UP.
WENT OUT TO THE PARK YESTERDAY AND IT'S LOOKING GREAT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT.
NOT INCLUDED.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.
BUILDING COSTS GOING TO GO UP.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS OUTLINED FOR THE
YELLOW JACKETS, THAT WHEN ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION IS HERE,
THEY WILL FOLLOW THE SAME SUIT.
THEY WON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AMNESIA.
A COUPLE OF PEOPLE CAME UP TODAY, AND I FOUND THIS VERY
INTERESTING.
I LIKE THE FACT THAT ITEM NUMBER 56, THE MOTION GWEN
HENDERSON MADE AROUND THE CATERERS IS CONTINUING.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED THIS UP BUT DID INQUIRE WITH MASTER
RESEARCHER STEPHANIE POYNOR HAS TO WHETHER THE LIST OF THE
CATERERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE APPROVED IS OUT THERE AND
BEING SEEN.
FROM MY KNOWLEDGE AND HER RESEARCH, SHE'S SAYING NO.
FIND OUT WHY.

WHY WASN'T IT?
BECAUSE, AGAIN, COMMUNITY, IF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT
REACHING OUT TO YOU AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, FOR THE
RESTAURANTS THAT MR. HYCH IDENTIFIED, REACH OUT TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ON THIS LIST BECAUSE GWEN DID
GO THROUGH A LOT TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS EQUITABLE FOR
EVERYONE.
AND, OF COURSE, AGAIN, IS THERE ANY WAY IN REGARDS TO THE
YOUTH SUMMER LEAGUE PROGRAM, INCENTIVES?
IF IT'S FINDING BUSINESSES, I'LL HELP YOU FIND BUSINESSES.
IS IT INCENTIVES?
HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED WITH THIS TO HELP BRING
THIS ALONG?
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR, CONNIE IS COMING UP HERE FUSSING ABOUT
THIS.
I WAS IN A YOUTH PROGRAM.
THAT'S HOW MY SISTER BECAME -- EXECUTIVE PERSON FOR THE
CHIEF.
BUT IT WAS THROUGH A PROGRAM.
IT CAN BE DONE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL TO
DO IT.
YOU HAVE IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DELAY IS AND WHY SO DIFFICULT.
THAT'S NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

BUT THANK YOU.
11:24:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA AND ASHLEY
MORROW.
11:24:27AM >> MY NAME IS ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE, ALSO KNOWN BY MY MARRIED
NAME OF LIZ ACARDO.
I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE.
I'M SO TIRED.
I WAS IN THE BATHROOM CRYING A MINUTE AGO.
LET'S FOCUS FOR A SECOND ON WHY I AM HERE, WHICH IS ITEM
NUMBER 32, WHICH IS EXTENDING A GRANT OF $10 MILLION TO HELP
SAVE PROPERTIES LIKE MINE.
THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF A GRANT THAT THE CITY ALREADY HAS.
THE PROBLEM HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE STATE, THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION HAS BEEN WILLING TO
GIVE $10 MILLION TO HELP TAMPA AND HOMES LIKE MINE.
THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF A GRANT.
WHY DO WE NEED AN EXTENSION OF A GRANT?
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T USED IT YET.
GET TO WORK!
GET IT DONE.
THE ONLY REASON THAT YOU HAVE TO EXTEND THE GRANT IS BECAUSE
YOU WON'T USE THE GRANT.
MY HOUSE FLOODED IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
IT'S JANUARY OF 2026.

YOU SHOULD HAVE USED THE GRANT BEFORE 2024, AND THEN MY
HOUSE WOULDN'T HAVE FLOODED.
YOU'RE EXTENDING A GRANT.
YOU ARE ASKED TO HEAR SO MUCH NOISE IN HERE.
IT IS A TOUGH JOB AND I DO THANK YOU.
EVEN IF I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU, IT IS A TOUGH JOB.
ALSO ALL THE LAWYERS BEHIND ME, VERY DIFFICULT JOBS.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ROOT PROBLEM HERE.
THE ROOT PROBLEM IS FEAR.
THE FEAR THAT THESE BUSINESSES HAVE OF FAILURE DURING THIS
PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITY THAT I AM FIGHTING
FOR MY COMMUNITY, PALMA CEIA PINES OR HYDE PARK WHERE I USED
TO LIVE.
MY COMMUNITY INCLUDES THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE FIGHTING ME.
I DON'T WANT THOSE BUSINESSES TO FAIL, AND I AM CONSIDERING
AN IDEA THAT I HAVE TO HELP THEM.
I NEED THIS CITY TO STOP BEING AFRAID OF THE FEAR THAT THESE
BUSINESSES HAVE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THEY WILL FAIL, AND
I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN WRONG INFORMATION, BUT I'M
ASKING THESE BUSINESSES TO MEET DIRECTLY WITH ME.
TALK TO ME.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOU.
I'M EXHAUSTED.
I'M EXHAUSTED.

I LOSE SLEEP OVER THIS.
MY HOME FLOODED.
HUNDREDS OF HOMES FLOODED.
YOU WANT AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION.
EACH PROPERTY, OVER 300 PROPERTIES FLOODED.
IT WASN'T EVEN A HIT OF A DIRECT HURRICANE.
IT WAS A RAIN EVENT.
OVER 300 PROPERTIES FLOODED AT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS PER
PROPERTY.
I WANT TO MEET WITH THE BUSINESSES DIRECTLY.
11:27:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:45AM >> PLEASE JUST SAY YES TO ITEM THIRTY --
11:27:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TARAH BLUMA FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW AND MENTESNOT.
11:27:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M TARAH BLUMA.
I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT PARKS AND TREES.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT MONEY FROM THE SMALL
NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS GOING TO THE GADSDEN PARK IMPROVEMENTS,
BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO PULL THE DOCK REPAIRS OUT OF
THAT RESOLUTION.
I DO NOT SUPPORT MONEY FOR JULIAN B. LANE DOCK REPAIRS, AT
LEAST OUT OF THIS BUDGET.
JULIAN B. LANE IS NOT A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, FIRST OF

ALL.
SECOND OF ALL, THEY HAVE AN EVENT CENTER THAT MAKES MONEY.
THEY CAN PAY FOR THEIR OWN DOCK REPAIRS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF WARRANTY ON THIS EQUIPMENT,
WHICH IS NOT VERY OLD.
NEXT, THERE WAS A $650,000 EASEMENT GRANTED BECAUSE OF
CONSTRUCTION AND A PIPELINE PROJECT IN MY IMMEDIATE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT MONEY DID GO INTO THE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS BUDGET.
WE WOULD REALLY LIKE IT TO GO TO THAT PARK THAT WAS RIPPED
UP OR FOR A TAMPA COMMUNITY CENTER ALSO CONNECTED TO THAT OR
DUGOUTS THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNUSABLE IN PORT TAMPA.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS HALF THE MONEY TO GO TO DOCK REPAIRS
AT JULIAN B. LANE PARK.
ALSO, WE HAVE $2 MILLION THAT WAS RECEIVED FOR AJ PALOMAS
PARK BACK IN 2021 THAT STILL HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.
LET'S SPEND THAT MONEY, MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THOSE
IMPROVEMENTS.
ONCE WE GET THAT, WE COULD TALK ABOUT GIVING THE
ADMINISTRATION THE MONEY FOR JULIAN B. LANE DOCK REPAIRS.
WE EXERCISE ANY EXCESS FUNDS FROM 2025 GOING TO SOUTH TAMPA
PARK SPECIFICALLY FOR REPAIRS TO OUR SMALL PARKS AND ALSO
FOR MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AT GADSDEN.
NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TREES.
I DO SUPPORT PAYING THE WATER DEPARTMENT BACK FOR THE TYPE

ONE AND TYPE TWO TREES.
THEY WERE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
THE TYPE THREE TREES I THINK SHOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF A
DIFFERENT BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE
TREE TRUST FUND.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE YET BEEN MET
TO BE ABLE TO USE THE TREE TRUST FUND MONEY AGAIN.
I SELFISHLY ASK THIS BECAUSE I AM MAKING PROGRESS IN MY
QUEST TO GET TREES PLANTED AT WESTSHORE ELEMENTARY, AND I'M
SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT MONEY.
BUT WHEN YOU DO TURN THAT SPIGOT BACK ON, I HOPE YOU REQUIRE
TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO TREES ONLY FOR TREE TRUST FUND MONEY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TREE-MENDOUS TREE PROGRAM OPEN
TO PLACING THE TREES OTHER PLACES BESIDES JUST IN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THOSE ARE TWO REALLY EASY THINGS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE FULL
AGREEMENT ON THAT YOU COULD VOTE ON TODAY AND START MAKING
SOME PROGRESS IN THIS AREA.
THANK YOU.
11:31:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ASHLEY MORROW, MENTESNOT, PAM CANNELLA.
11:31:06AM >> HELLO.
ASHLEY MORROW, SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY, BUT FIRST I
WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
I ENJOY LIVING IN DISTRICT 5, EAST TAMPA, BUT I HAVE NOTICED

SOME THINGS AS I MOVED HERE AND JUST BEEN OBSERVING A LOT OF
THINGS.
I SPOKE WITH GWEN AT LENGTH.
COMMUNICATION.
I FEEL LIKE WE NEED MORE CONSISTENT TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION
INSTEAD OF COMING TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT IS A ONE-WAY AND
CANNOT RESPOND.
REGULAR NEWSLETTERS AND STANDING PUBLIC FORUMS SCHEDULED IN
ADVANCE TO PEOPLE CAN PLAN AHEAD.
THIS WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF COMMUNITY FRUSTRATION.
DEVELOPMENT, STRONGER ALIGNMENT IS NEEDED BETWEEN THE CAC,
CITY COUNCIL, AND CRA STAFF.
RFPs FOR VACANT LOTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE RELEASED THIS
MONTH.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT LOCAL BLACK DEVELOPERS ARE AWARDED SOME OF
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
SOLUTION IS PENDING FOR THAT.
I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
NEXT, RESOURCE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCESS.
WE NEED CLARITY ON HOW FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED, WHO RECEIVES
THEM, HOW THEY ARE BEING USED AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HOW SMALL
COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS CAN GET ACCESS TO THEM.
I WOULD SUGGEST SETTING UP WORKSHOPS IF YOU ALREADY DO THEM,
MAYBE STREAMING THEM AND SHARING ONLINE SO OTHERS CAN SEE
THEM LATER.

IF THEY HAPPEN AND NOBODY IS THERE, ATTENDANCE IS LOW, THAT
DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY.
I MEAN ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS.
I'M NOT ATTACKING ANY ORGANIZATION.
I LOVE YOU ALL.
WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND WANT GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN IN
EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, ALL OF THEM, NORTH, SOUTH, WHATEVER.
NEXT, RESTORING PRIDE AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN.
I JUST LEARNED ABOUT SWEEP WEEK.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT LAST YEAR.
UNFORTUNATELY, GWEN PASSED PROBABLY DURING THAT SPAN OF
TIME.
I'M SEEING MATTRESSES AND DRESSERS AND THINGS IN PEOPLE'S
BACKYARDS.
NOT BY THE CURB.
SWEEP WEEK IS THE WEEK THEY COME AND PICK UP THINGS FOR
FREE.
I WOULD LOVE IF WE PUSH FOR THAT THIS YEAR.
A WHOLE MATTRESS IN FRONT OF GARY SCHOOL ON 40th.
I HOPE IT IS REMOVED BY NOW.
FINALLY, MISINFORMATION, MISINFORMATION IS SPREADING LIKE
WILDFIRE THROUGH MY COMMUNITY.
IT'S CREATING UNNECESSARY DIVISION.
LOCAL ADVOCATE LEADERS SHOULD MOVE AWAY FROM ATTACKING EACH
OTHER AND TOWARDS TRANSPARENT INFORMATION SHARING WITH

MEMBERS AND EACH OTHER, THE LEADERS.
ACCURATE COMMUNICATION IS ESSENTIAL ALONG WITH BROADER
INCLUSION ACROSS GENERATIONS, CLASS, BACKGROUNDS, AT THE
DECISION TABLE.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING AROUND AT YOUR TABLE AND IT LOOKS LIKE
EVERYBODY IS THE SAME AGE OR YOUR SAME BACKGROUND OR CLASS,
MIX IT UP A BIT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO SEE SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S
PERSPECTIVES.
THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR ME.
HERE IS A LITTLE GRAPHIC I CREATED FOR YOU ALL.
THANK YOU.
11:34:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY PAM CANNELLA AND JOHN GREEN.
11:34:11AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE STATISTICAL INFORMATION.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM.
LITTLE STATISTICAL INFORMATION.
85% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS GAY.
85% GAY OR EITHER HAD A GAY EXPERIENCE.
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
BY FORCE OR BY CHOICE OR BY WHATSOEVER.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAY AND CAUSE OF GAY.
ANOTHER BIT OF STATISTICAL INFORMATION.

THE POLICE MURDER 100 AFRICANS PER DAY, EVERY DAY.
THAT IS JUST NORTH AMERICA.
THE POLICE AND POLICE RELATED ORGANIZATIONS MURDER 100
AFRICAN PEOPLE PER DAY SINCE 1865.
THAT'S 700 AFRICANS MURDERED BY THE POLICE EVERY SINGLE
WEEK.
2800 PER MONTH SINCE 1865.
NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HYPOCRISY AND HYPOCRITES.
TWO HYPOCRITES SITTING RIGHT IN THIS ROOM.
ONE READING THE RULES OF DECORUM BEFORE ANYTHING GETS
STARTED.
ANOTHER ONE TALKING ABOUT LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR
RENEE GOOD.
WOMAN THAT WAS MURDERED BY I.C.E.
THE POLICE KILL BLACK PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
THIS WOMAN ALREADY GOT $400,000 LAST NIGHT ALONE OFF THE
INTERNET BECAUSE WHITE LIVES MATTER.
THE PEOPLE, THE JEWS, MURDERING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
PALESTINIANS AND NO MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE PALESTINIAN
KIDS OR ADULTS GETTING MURDERED OR THE GROUP THAT THE WHITE
FOLKS CREATED CALLED HAMAS.
AIN'T NO SUCH GROUP AS HAMAS.
WHITE FOLKS CREATED THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
THIS DUMB, IGNORANT CITY COUNCIL NEVER TALK ABOUT ANYTHING
IMPORTANT TO AFRICAN PEOPLE.

WE'RE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
SAN FRANCISCO JUST SAY, HEY -- I SAID $3 MILLION FOR
AFRICAN, MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.
SAN FRANCISCO SAID $5 MILLION.
ALL THIS IGNORANT STUPIDITY YOU ALL TALK ABOUT, BLACK PEOPLE
HAVE NO INTEREST IN IT.
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NONE.
WE WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT US AND OUR GENERATION AND OUR
FUTURE.
THE KKK IS BACK ON THE RISE.
THEY SLAVE CATCHING WENT DOWN TO VENEZUELA, SLAVE CATCH
SOMEONE AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE BECAUSE
WHITE LIVES MATTER AND WHITE WOMAN THAT GOT KILLED SOMEWHERE
DOING SOMETHING.
DISINGENUOUS, DISHONEST AND DISTASTEFUL TO AFRICAN PEOPLE.
11:37:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PAM CANNELLA FOLLOWED BY JOHN GREEN AND SURGRET DOSS.
11:37:29AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO NUMBER 32 ON THE AGENDA.
IT DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES
IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT CAN ALSO BE VIEWED AS MISINFORMATION.
A FORMAL AMENDMENT ORDER IS REQUIRED PER THE GRANT AGREEMENT
PAGE OF NUMBER ONE.

FOR CHANGES IN THE EXPIRATION DATE, INCREASE IN AGREEMENT
FUNDING AND A CHANGE IN MATCH REQUIREMENTS.
ATTACHMENT 1A, NUMBER 44 ASKS FOR COMPLETE AND ACCURATE
INFORMATION, YET NO ACTUAL COST AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SAID.
IT WAS BASED ON 65 MILLION, BUT COULD BE A HUNDRED MILLION.
THERE'S NO FORMAL REPORT PRESENTED FOR THE DESIGN PROJECT OR
IMPACTS.
PROJECT DESCRIPTION CHANGES ON THE PROJECT WEB PAGE ALMOST
EVERY DAY.
PROJECT STATES TO PROTECT 259-ACRE AREA FROM A HUNDRED-YEAR
FLOODING, BUT OUR MAYOR AND STAFF HAD SAID NO PROTECTION
FROM HURRICANES.
PROTECT SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS FROM FLOODING, YET DOESN'T
ADDRESS PALMA CEIA PINES FLOODING.
MY CONCERN ON OCTOBER 23, 2025 MEETING, MR. ROGERO, LACK OF
FUNDING FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THERE ARE NO FUNDING.
I DON'T WANT MY TAXES RAISED.
HOW IS SEA LEVEL RISE BEING ADDRESSED?
THE CITY OF TAMPA VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT STATES WATER
COMING INTO OUTFALLS AND INLETS AT BAYSHORE WOULD FLOOD THAT
AREA, BUT YET WE'RE GOING TO PUT WATER OUT THAT AREA.
THE STREETSCAPE IS NOT A STORMWATER PROJECT, SO WHY IS IT
ALWAYS PART OF THE HOWARD PROJECT?
IT'S NOT PART OF THIS FUNDING.

I'M NEUTRAL.
I'M NOT HERE FOR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE OTHER.
I'M FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M HERE TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT AND MAKE THE BEST
DECISION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THIS HOWARD PROJECT IS
NOT IT.
THANK YOU.
11:39:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JOHN GREEN FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS AND PASTOR WILLIAMS.
11:40:11AM >> BEST ONLY TO SHOW THAT I'M DOING MY HOME WORK.
I'M JOHN GREEN HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE THAT THE PRESIDENT
OF THE HCU WHO WORKED FOR THE CITY, STEVEN SIMON, WHO
REFUSED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY
AND THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S ABOUT THE TRASH PICKUP DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
I HAVE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING YOU TO MAKE MY CASE, BUT I WANT
TO START THE CONVERSATION BY SAYING, IF THE CITY CAN APPROVE
TO GIVE HART 1.5, $1.6 MILLION FOR ROUTE ONE, WHY CAN'T THIS
CITY PAY ITS EMPLOYEES OVERTIME TO PICK UP THE TRASH NORTH
OF TAMPA, NOT SOUTH.
NO OFFENSE TO THE SOUTH.
FROM MLK.
I'M ASKING THAT THIS COUNCIL HELP US RESTORE THE RESPECT AND
DIGNITY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS IN THE NORTH
SIDE OF THIS CITY TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DEARLY LOVE.

NOW, SIMON PETER COMES HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND HE
DISRESPECTS HIS OWN PEERS, HIS OWN EMPLOYEES AS ATU MEMBER.
I'M AN EX-VICE PRESIDENT OF ATU FOR HART.
I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WORK WITH ONE OF HIS EMPLOYEES, BRIAN
WALKER, WHO HAS BEEN FIRED.
HOW HE MISLEADS THEM IN TERMS OF THE PROCEDURES AND WORK
WITH MANAGEMENT TO HELP GET PEOPLE FIRED.
I'M PISSED.
WHO HELPS GET PEOPLE FIRED FROM WORKING WITH THE STAFF.
RIGHT?
THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.
THIS IS ONLY TO START THE CONVERSATION AND I WILL BE COMING
BACK TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES OF THIS CITY AS LONG AS THEY
ARE ASKING ME TO.
ABOUT THE TRASH IN OUR -- MAY SEE IT AS POOR COMMUNITIES, WE
STILL HAVE DIGNITY.
TRASH CAN BE PICKED UP.
IF YOU CAN FIND $1.6 MILLION TO GIVE TO HART, HART GOT A
$38 MILLION RESERVE, AND YOU DISRESPECT YOUR OWN CITY, WE
ALL CAN MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY
AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE
ALL THE WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN TRAILBLAZING, SPECIFICALLY THE
BLACK WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN THE BACKBONE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.

11:42:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SURGRET DOSS AND PASTOR WILLIAMS.
11:42:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
SURGRET DOSS.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND PLEASE DON'T BLOCK IT OUT.
I UNDERLINED THIS NAME, GREG HOLDER, FOR A REASON.
A COUPLE OF YOU ALL KNOW WHY.
HE CALLED THIS CASE MANAGEMENT CONFERENCE, AND THEN HE HAD A
COUPLE OF PEOPLE SHOW UP FROM FIRMS THAT SUPPOSEDLY
REPRESENTED BANKS BEFORE YOU ALL HELPED INSTILL -- HELPED
HIM STEAL ONE OF MY PROPERTIES.
THIS SO-CALLED LAW FIRM NEVER, EVER HAD A MERGER.
THIS ATTORNEY, I'M ALSO SPEAKING TO THE ATTORNEYS IN THE
ROOM AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, NEVER MADE AN APPEARANCE
IN THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH SHE CLAIMED TO HAVE MADE AN
APPEARANCE IN THE RECORD.
THE STATEMENT THAT SUPPOSEDLY WAS ATTRIBUTED TO ME, I NEVER
SAID -- GREG HOLDER, SAID THAT I SUPPOSEDLY MADE THE
STATEMENT, WHICH I DIDN'T MAKE.
ALSO, GREG HOLDER WHO AT THE TIME WAS A JUDGE, BY THE WAY,
SAID HE WITNESSED ME IN ANOTHER JUDGE'S COURTROOM.
I DON'T KNOW JUDGES DID THAT KIND OF THING.
A COUPLE OF GUYS CAME UP TO ME AND ASKED ME IF INSULT
RACISTS AND BIGOTS AND PEOPLE HOLDING HIGH POSITION EVER
HELP ME.

I HAD TO REMIND THEM THAT BEING PROFESSIONAL, COURTEOUS,
HONEST, DIPLOMATIC, AIN'T DONE AN MFING THING FOR ME.
STILL DON'T HAVE MY HOUSES AND STILL FACING FIVE YEARS.
DOING THESE THINGS THINKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL.
I DON'T LOOK FOR AN EXCUSE TO CONFRONT BIGOTS AND RACISTS.
I WANT YOU ALL TO SMELL MY COLOGNE.
HERE TO ASSERT THAT GREGORY HOLDER NEVER DESERVED THE TITLE
OF HONORABLE AND IF GENERAL MARK KELLY CAN LOSE HIS POSITION
IN ANYTHING HE EARNED, THAT POS, THE SAME CAN BE DONE FOR
HIM.
I'M SPEAKING TO YOU, RON DESANTIS AND ANY OTHER GOVERNOR,
WHOEVER COMES BEHIND HIM.
JUDICIAL QUALIFICATIONS COMMITTEE.
NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT GREGORY HOLDER WAS
REPRIMANDED A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE ME BECAUSE HE PUSHED
DOWN DR. GENSHAFT AT USF.
I'M TALKING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS A STINKIN' SKIN MF WHO
TRIED TO PUT ME IN PRISON FOR FIVE YEARS.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE MELANIN IN THEIR
BLOOD AND A LOT THAT DO THAT WISH THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT,
WORKED SO HARD TO UNDERMINE THE WEAK ASS APOLOGY THAT THE
CITY OF TAMPA GAVE BACK IN 2020 FOR DISCRIMINATION AGAINST
BLACK FOLKS.
EVER HAVE A CASE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT INVOLVE GREGORY
HOLDER OR DETECTIVE MIKE VICTOR, I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU HAVE

THE CASE REVIEWED.
I CAN ALMOST PROMISE YOU SOMETHING BAD WENT ON WITH YOUR
CASE.
THAT SAID, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTE OF LEARNING,
UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
11:45:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PASTOR WILLIAMS.
KAREN CLAY.
PASTOR WILLIAMS, CAROLYN CLAY, MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:46:05AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK SISTER LOCKET FOR PUTTING MY NAME ON THE LIST BECAUSE
I THOUGHT I SIGNED THE LIST.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I FIRST WANT TO GIVE PRAISE TO GOD ALMIGHTY.
11:46:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE?
11:46:24AM >> SAY WHAT?
11:46:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOUR NAME.
CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME.
11:46:27AM >> YEAH, MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
I THOUGHT I SAID THAT.
PASTOR WILLIAMS.
MAKE ME FORGET MY THOUGHTS.
NOW WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN, HADN'T PUT MY WATER ON YET.
MY GRANDDAUGHTER WAS STAYING WITH ME.
SHE HAD TO MOVE OUT.
STILL WAITING.

THEY SEND ME A BILL EVERY MONTH.
IN FACT, SEND ME TWO BILLS ONCE A MONTH.
THE WAY YOU TREAT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU
ALL DON'T WANT TO RESPECT, YOU DON'T RESPECT THEM.
YOU ACT LIKE YOU CARE LESS.
COME UP AND TELL YOU WEEK AFTER WEEK, WE ARE ALL NOTHING BUT
HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT'S THE WAY WE WANT TO BE TREATED.
THANK GOD THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY, THE YEAR 2026.
THAT IS A BLESSING FOR ALL OF US.
SOME AIN'T GIVE GOD NO PRAISE BECAUSE YOU DON'T CARE NOTHING
ABOUT GOD.
BUT I HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW, I CARE A WHOLE LOT ABOUT GOD.
HE THE ONE THAT CREATED ALL OF US AND WE NEED TO ACT LIKE
IT.
TELL HIM THANKS SOMETIMES.
PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME SOMETIMES.
GLORIFY HIM SOMETIMES.
BUT WHEN I COME HERE MANY YEARS AGO, THEY TOLD ME I HAD TO
SIT DOWN BECAUSE PRAYING IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
I'M LETTING YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE ONLY PRAYER I KNOW TO
PRAY, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
GOD HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO US AND HE CONTINUES TO BLESS US
EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES.
AND WE DON'T HAVE SENSE ENOUGH TO LOOK UP AND TELL GOD,
THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR ANOTHER DAY.

THANK GOD FOR THE 2026.
A LOT OF THEM GONE.
BUT WE STILL HERE, PRAISE AND GLORIFY HIS HOLY NAME.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE CROSS.
WHEN I DIE, DIE ON THE CROSS.
GOD HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO US.
I HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO SAY.
WHEN I GET UP HERE, MY THOUGHTS LEAVE ME FOR SOME REASON.
I GOT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO TREAT EACH OTHER
LIKE A HUMAN BEING.
BLACK FOLK, BROWN FOLK, YELLOW FOLK, WHITE FOLK, AND
EVERYBODY ELSE.
TREAT US RIGHT.
PASSING A FLYER OUT HERE TO THE ATTORNEY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, HE GIVE IT BACK TO ME.
11:49:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOU.
YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR DAY.
OKAY.
NEXT, KAREN CLAY.
FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:49:38AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ALMOST.
THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS KAREN CLAY.
I HEAD UP THE DEMOCRATIC DISABILITY CAUCUS OF FLORIDA AS

WELL AS THE DISABILITY CAUCUS OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
MOST PROUDLY, THE MICHAEL PHILLIPS FOUNDATION.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE RESOLUTION THAT
COUNCILMAN VIERA IS MAKING TO NAME THE DISABILITY INTERNS
PROGRAM AFTER MY SON MICHAEL PHILLIPS.
I'M PROUD AND HONORED AND HUMBLED TO BE HERE TODAY AND
THANKING ALL OF YOU, AND THANKING THE MAYOR AND THE STAFF
AND THE CITY FOR HAVING A PROGRAM THAT SO MANY CITIES IN
THIS COUNTRY DO NOT HAVE AND ALMOST AFRAID TO HAVE BECAUSE
THEY DO NOT LIKE USING THE WORDS, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY,
EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS NO PROBLEM USING THOSE WORDS.
I THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALL SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU AGAIN.
11:50:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:50:50AM >> CDC.
WE ARE STANDING IN THE MOMENT THAT FEELS HEAVY TO SO MANY.
IN 2006, MASS LAYOFFS -- SHAPE SUSTAINABLE -- RESOURCES ARE
DISAPPEARING, AND FOR MANY, THIS CRISIS IS PERSONAL.
IT'S DREAMS DELAYED.
THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T WAIT.
A.I. GIVES US A WAY FORWARD.
BY USING A.I. AS AN IMPACT -- WE STABILIZE OUR MISSION AND

BUILD A RESIDENT CENTERED MODEL THAT HONORS PEOPLE'S TIME,
DIGNITY, AND POTENTIAL.
SUPPORT 85% OF OUR OPERATION, MANAGING SCHEDULING, DATA
ANALYST, COMMUNICATION, AND CURRICULUMS.
AS STAFF CAN STATE FULLY PRESENT WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT
WALK THROUGH OUR DOORS SEEKING HELP.
A.I. WOULD ALLOW US TO FULLY OPERATE WITH A BUDGET OF
$245,000 INSTEAD OF ADDITIONAL 620,000.
HAPPENS WHEN RESIDENTS USE THE SOFTWARE THEMSELVES.
A.I. WILL HELP THEM BUILD RESUM S, FILL GAPS AND GAIN
COACHING THAT BUILDS CONFIDENCE.
ACTS AS A VIRTUAL BUSINESS PARTNER FOR NEW ENTREPRENEURS.
TARGETED TRAINING, WE'LL PREPARE RESIDENTS FOR OVER 25
TECH-RELATED JOBS, OPENING DOORS ONCE CLOSED.
THIS MODEL DOESN'T JUST REDUCE COST AND EXPAND ASSETS, IT
RESTORES POSSIBILITY.
IT POSITIONS OUR COMMUNITY NOT TO SURVIVE CHANGE, BUT TO
SHAPE IT FOR EQUITY --
THOSE NOT IN WEST TAMPA, JOIN US AS WE HOST AN IMPORTANT
CONVERSATION ON HOW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN TRANSFORM
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, EXPAND CAPITAL AND HELP BUILD
GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
WE'LL EXPLORE PRACTICAL, REAL-WORLD EXAMPLES THAT PUT A.I.
TO WORK TO EMPOWER COMMUNITY.
NEXT, I WANT TO HONOR ROBIN LOCKETT FOR HER TIRELESS

CAMPAIGN THAT EMPOWERS AND AMPLIFIES VOICES ACROSS
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
FINALLY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU
DO.
AT 70, I HOPE I AM AS GOOD AS YOU WHEN I REACH YOUR AGE.
THANK YOU.
11:53:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD TO COMMITTEE REPORTS TO TRY TO GET
THROUGH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ITEMS 4-6.
11:53:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
BY THE WAY, BEFORE, I WANTED TO SAY THIS, WE NEVER RESPOND
TO PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THAT TIME, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I
KNOW FORMER JUDGE GREG HOLDER, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A MAN
WHO I CONSIDER TO BE A BETTER PERSON OF INTEGRITY AND
DECENCY THAN JUDGE GREG HOLDER.
JUST FOR THE RECORD.
BASED ON THAT, MOVE ITEMS 4-6.
11:54:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:54:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
WE WILL HAVE TO DO THESE BY A ROLL CALL.
OR MR. SHELBY, CAN WE DO THE VOICE VOTE WITH MR. CLENDENIN?
11:54:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, VOICE VOTE, PLEASE.

11:54:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN DO VOICE VOTE?
11:54:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I MEANT BY ROLL CALL.
INDIVIDUAL.
11:54:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
YES.
11:54:47AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:54:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:54:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:54:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:54:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:54:56AM >> CLENDENIN?
11:54:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE MUTED.
11:54:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:55:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM -- COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:55:03AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 7 THROUGH 12.
11:55:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
11:55:13AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:55:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:55:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:55:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:55:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:55:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:55:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

11:55:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH 21.
11:55:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
11:55:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:55:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:55:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:55:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:55:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:55:39AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:55:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:55:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
MR. -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25.
11:55:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25 FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
11:55:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:56:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:56:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:56:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:56:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.

11:56:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:56:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:56:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 26 THROUGH 31.
11:56:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
11:56:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:56:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:56:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:56:23AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:56:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:56:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:56:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:56:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
MOVE 33 THROUGH 35.
11:56:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH 35.
11:56:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL.
11:56:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:56:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:56:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:56:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:56:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

11:56:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:56:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:56:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THEN I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 49, 50, 51, 52, AND
54.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
YES.
11:57:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:57:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:57:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:57:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:57:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:57:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:57:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT ZOOMING THROUGH THE SECOND READINGS
SINCE WE HAVE LAWYERS AND FOLKS HERE?
I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE IN TEN MINUTES.
IF IT GETS BAD, WE'LL RECONSIDER.
11:57:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I WANT TO NOTE THAT 22 IS THE REPAVING OF NEW TAMPA
BOULEVARD.
AND THAT'S BEEN ON OUR RADAR SINCE I GOT ELECTED.
SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR EVERYBODY AT MOBILITY FOR WORKING

WITH US ON THAT.
LONG STORY BEHIND THAT, BUT THANK YOU.
11:58:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES.
11:58:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
11:58:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AYE.
11:58:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT WAS AGREED ON
DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, THIS IS DIRECTED TO
COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU WANT ITEM 53 DONE BEFORE LUNCH
BEFORE DOING SECOND READINGS?
11:58:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:58:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
53.
11:58:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CHIEF LOPEZ, THIS IS THE GRANDSON OF PATROLMAN
MORRIS LOPEZ WHO IS HERE.
I REMEMBER MEETING CHIEF LOPEZ AT JESSE MADSEN'S FUNERAL.
LONG STORY SHORT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING
FOR THE LATE PATROLMAN MORRIS LOPEZ, 1949, YBOR CITY 7th
AND 16th.
THE STORY, GREAT STORY YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT PAUL GUZZO

WROTE ON IT.
DID A FINE JOB ON IT.
TALKS ABOUT NOT JUST THE SACRIFICE THAT HE HAD, PATROLMAN
LOPEZ BUT IN SAVING THE LIFE OF A NEWSPAPER BOY AND HOW THAT
MAN'S SON WOULD BECOME A FIREFIGHTER AND LOPEZ'S GRANDSON,
YOU, WOULD BECOME A FIREFIGHTER AS WELL.
YOUR GRANDFATHER WANTED TO BECOME AN ATTORNEY.
WE'VE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO PLAQUE,
HISTORICAL MARKER AND SO FORTH.
I THOUGHT IT WISE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT TO DO A STREET
RENAMING.
GIVEN THE FACT IT IS YBOR CITY, WHEREVER IT MAY BE.
I WANTED TO -- CHIEF LOPEZ WANTED TO SPEAK FOR 45 SECONDS.
12:00:00PM >> FOR THE RECORD, MORRIS LOPEZ THE III.
GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO OFF OF WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID
THIS MORNING.
WHAT A GREAT DAY TO START OUT THE NEW YEAR.
THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF LOVE IN THIS ROOM THIS MORNING.
IT WAS GOOD TO BE HERE.
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR
CONSIDERING TO HONOR MY GRANDFATHER WHO SERVED THE CITY IN A
SWORN ROLE AND HONORED THAT OATH BY GIVING HIS LIFE IN THAT
SERVICE AS A TAMPA POLICE OFFICER, ULTIMATELY MAKING THE

GREATEST SACRIFICE A PUBLIC SERVANT CAN MAKE.
HIS COMMITMENT TO THE CITY WAS NEVER ABOUT RECOGNITION.
IT WAS ABOUT DUTY, RESPONSIBILITY, AND ANSWERING HIS CALLING
TO SERVE OTHERS.
HE BELIEVED DEEPLY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IN DOING THE WORK
QUIETLY AND HONORABLY.
STREET BEARING HIS NAME WOULD SERVE AS LASTING REMINDER OF
THE SACRIFICE NOT ONLY MADE BY MY GRANDFATHER BUT BY ALL
THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED THIS GREAT CITY.
AND THEY SPENT THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE DOING IT.
MY FAMILY IS VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR THE GOOD
WORK THAT EACH OF YOU DO EVERY DAY FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, WHICH
I FEEL GOES UNNOTICED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING ME AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
12:01:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WANTED TO SPEAK.
12:01:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. LOPEZ, I WAS A YOUNG KID WHEN THIS
HAPPENED.
I BELIEVE YOUR --
12:01:39PM >> YEAH, THAT WAS HER.
12:01:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REMEMBER THAT WHEN I WAS A KID BECAUSE
IT LEFT A LASTING IMPRESSION IN MY MIND.
SISTER NAMED OLGA.
MY UNCLE WAS MARRIED TO OLGA.
I KNEW WHEN THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED IT WAS A FAMILY AFFAIR.
I REMEMBER THE CHATTER AMONG THE MEMBERS.

I NEVER FORGOT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR GRANDFATHER.
I ADMIRE MR. VIERA FOR WHAT HE'S DOING.
AGAIN, YOU HAD A GREAT GRANDFATHER AND GRANDMOTHER.
I KNEW THEM PERSONALLY.
12:02:12PM >> THANK YOU.
MY GRANDMOTHER SPOKE VERY HIGHLY OF YOU.
GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY.
12:02:17PM >> THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU.
12:02:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAKE CARE.
12:02:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
I'VE DONE THE MEMO, BRANDON, DO YOU MIND GIVING THIS TO
CHIEF LOPEZ.
I HAVE DONE THE MEMO.
I KNOW WE NEED TWO WEEKS.
I'VE DONE THAT.
SUPPORT FROM CINDY ROBERTS, THE WIDOW OF LATE CORPORAL MIKE
ROBERTS, THE COPS ORGANIZATION, THE FIRE UNIONS,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA PBA AND EVERYTHING ON
THIS.
SO WE'LL BRING THIS BACK PURSUANT TO OUR RULES.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS.
MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:02:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT.
FILE NUMBER 36.
THESE ARE THE NON-QUASI. ITEM 36.
ANY STAFF HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 36?
12:03:14PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, PRESENTING FILE NUMBER 36,
VAC-25-19.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:03:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
PETITIONER?
OR IS THAT US?
DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:03:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 36, FILE NUMBER VAC-25-19,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED

NORTH OF 7th AVENUE, SOUTH OF 9th AVENUE, EAST OF 42nd
STREET, AND WEST OF 43rd STREET, WITHIN THE REVISED MAP OF
ENTERPRISE SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS,
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:04:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, A
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
12:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:04:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
12:04:43PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:04:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:04:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:04:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:04:50PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
12:04:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SAMONS, ITEM 37.
12:04:58PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
PRESENTING FILE VAC 25-15 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO I HAVE A PETITIONER?
12:05:15PM >> NICK SANDERS, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE, ITEM 37.
12:05:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, FILE VAC-25-15, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
PORTION OF 31st STREET, A PORTION OF 15th AVENUE AND
THAT ALLEYWAY THAT ARE LOCATED NORTH OF INTERSTATE 4, SOUTH
OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, EAST OF CSX RAILROAD, WEST OF YALE STREET
WITHIN THE MAP OF VEDADO, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR

VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:06:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
12:06:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:06:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:06:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:06:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:06:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:06:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:06:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:06:33PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:06:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
MR. VIERA --
12:06:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
REVIEWED EVERYTHING.
12:06:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOTH 38 AND 39.
12:06:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
12:06:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 38.
12:06:46PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
ERIC COTTON FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND DENNIS
FERNANDEZ FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARE ON THE LINE IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

HERE TODAY ON ITEM 38, THE SECOND READING OF THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING THE YBOR CITY
PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
AS YOU'LL RECALL, THIS AMENDMENT IS NECESSARY DUE TO THE
RECENT CHANGES IN STATE LAW SENATE BILL 180.
I DO HAVE A SLIDE IF YOU WANT A LITTLE REFRESHER.
TAKING THIS ORDINANCE BACK TO WHAT WE HAD ON AUGUST 1, 2024.
EFFECTIVE RETROACTIVELY TO THAT DATE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT WILL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
12:07:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
12:07:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK EVERYBODY INTERESTED IN THIS HAS
WATCHED ALREADY, BUT THE IDEA IS IF THE STATE WILL CHANGE
IT, WE'LL CHANGE IT BACK.
12:07:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXACTLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
THIS?
12:07:49PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR FOR THE RECORD, SENATE BILL 180 SUCKS.
12:07:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE?
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR MIKE.
12:08:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER E2025-8, 27, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO PUBLICLY INITIATED
TEXT AMENDMENTS, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
OF ORDINANCES, AMENDING SECTION 27-178, PARKING
REQUIREMENTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:08:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, A
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
12:08:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:08:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:08:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:08:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:08:54PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:08:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:08:57PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:08:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 39.
12:09:04PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING VAC 20-06 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

12:09:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE A PETITIONER?
12:09:16PM >> RYAN MANASSE WITH JOHNSON POPE, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.
12:09:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THIS.
12:09:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE 2021-6, PASSED AND ORDAINED ON
JANUARY 14, 2021, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED, DISCONTINUED AND
ABANDONED TWO RIGHTS-OF-WAY LOCATED SOUTH OF 26th AVENUE,
NORTH OF PLYMOUTH STREET, EAST OF TALIAFERRO AVENUE AND WEST
OF NEBRASKA AVENUE AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED BELOW TO EXTEND
THE FIVE-YEAR REVERTER CLAUSE FIVE ADDITIONAL YEARS TO ALLOW
MORE TIME TO COMMENCE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:10:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
12:10:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:10:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:10:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:10:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:10:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:10:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:10:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:10:26PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT, WE HAVE OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 40 THROUGH 43, PLEASE
STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
12:10:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, WERE YOU ABLE TO REVIEW
ITEMS 40 THROUGH 43?
12:10:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS.
I WATCHED THE HEARINGS AND I AM PREPARED TO VOTE.
12:10:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
GREAT.
ITEM NUMBER 40.
12:11:02PM >> FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 40 IS REZ 25-104.

THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4311
WEST GRAY STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:11:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
12:11:32PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS GISELLE MOTA, THE AGENT REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY
OWNER ON BEHALF OF REZ 25-104.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY
COMPLETED SEVERAL PROJECTS IN THE AREA.
WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY FOR REZONING
STAFF IN THE INITIAL APPROVAL AT THE FIRST HEARING.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THROUGH THIS
PROCESS.
THE OWNERS ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:11:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO READ THIS.
12:12:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 40, REZ 25-104, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4311 WEST GRAY
STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS-50, REASONINGS, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:12:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL.
12:12:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:12:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:12:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
12:12:43PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:12:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:12:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:12:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:12:49PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
12:12:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE
READING AN ITEM OR WOULD YOU WISH TO BE SKIPPED?
12:13:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN READ IT IF YOU WANT ME TO.
12:13:04PM >> ITEM NUMBER 41.

12:13:08PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 41 IS REZ 25-105, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 1112 WEST LASALLE STREET, RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED
TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:13:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
12:13:35PM >> YES.
HI.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
GISELLE MOTA, REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER AS THE AGENT
FOR REZ 25-105.
AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE INITIAL FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY BY
REZONING STAFF AND INITIAL APPROVAL AT FIRST HEARING, THE
OWNER ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:13:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE?
ANY OPPOSED?
CHAIR CLENDENIN.

12:14:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE FILE REZ 25-105, AN ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1112 WEST
LASALLE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATIONS RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:14:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR CLENDENIN.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
12:14:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:14:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:14:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:14:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:14:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:14:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:14:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
AND I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:14:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO LET HIM READ --
12:14:55PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:14:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW, CHAIR CLENDENIN.
12:14:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:15:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN TO MOVE
THE RESOLUTION, ATTACHED TO REZ 25-105.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
12:15:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:15:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:15:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:15:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:15:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:15:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:15:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:15:20PM >>THE CLERK:
THE RESOLUTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:15:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 42.
12:15:25PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 42 IS REZ 25-128.
THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3812 PINEWOOD STREET.
REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
HOTEL USE.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:15:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
12:15:49PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EACH OF YOU.
ALL OF OUR REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, INCLUDING THE ONE WE

AGREED TO AT COUNCIL WHICH WAS MAKING THE REFERENCE IN A
NOTE TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:16:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HAD DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
12:16:17PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND I SUPPORT THE PARK OR NOT PARK
THAT'S GOING IN NEXT TO IT.
AND WE APPRECIATE THEM WORKING WITH US.
YES, GREENWAY.
WHATEVER.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE TEMPORARY HOUSING
FOR MacDILL BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO NEED IT.
WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE ON OUR ROADS, SO THIS WILL CURE
THAT PROBLEM.
THANK YOU.
12:16:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?

I BELIEVE I LEFT OFF WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ITEM -- MOVE ITEM 42, FILE REZ 25-128,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3812
PINEWOOD STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:17:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL?
YES.
12:17:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:17:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:17:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:17:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:17:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:17:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:17:29PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:17:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 43.
12:17:36PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 43 IS REZ 26-01, REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 1942, 1946, AND 1948 WEST SPRUCE STREET.

THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:18:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
PETITIONER.
12:18:03PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
YOU MAY RECALL THAT ONE OF YOUR MOTIONS WAS TO HAVE IN THE
ELEVATION WE PRESENTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE REFLECTED
ON THE SITE PLAN.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT, AND THE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S ALSO ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION FOLKS WITH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT RESTRICTIONS.
12:18:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
12:18:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, I WILL.
I MOVE FILE NCA 25-18 --

12:18:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, WE'RE AT 43.
12:18:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY.
I HEREBY MOVE REZ 26-01, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 1942, 1946, AND 1948 WEST SPRUCE STREET
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MAR PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
12:19:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL?
12:19:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:19:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:19:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:19:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:19:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:19:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:19:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:19:31PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:19:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:19:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ROLL CALL?
12:19:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:19:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:19:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:19:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:19:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:19:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:19:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:19:51PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:19:53PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:19:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE NOW AT -- WHEN WE COME BACK, WE ARE
GOING TO DO ITEMS 57, 32, AND 59.
IS THAT WHAT WE'LL BEGIN WITH?
THAT'S HOW WE'LL BEGIN.
IT IS 12:21.
YOU ALL TELL ME.
2:00.
WE WILL BE STARTING WITH ITEM 57 AT 2:00.
ENJOY YOUR LUNCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]

02:03:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELCOME BACK, EVERYONE.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
02:03:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
02:03:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
02:03:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
02:03:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
02:03:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
02:04:00PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
02:04:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
I BELIEVE CHAIR CLENDENIN WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY.
OKAY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO START --
02:04:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M HERE.
02:04:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE HE GOES.
EXCELLENT.
WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ITEM
NUMBER 57.
02:04:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, BEFORE I SPEAK, I WANT TO INQUIRE,
ANYBODY FROM STAFF HERE RESPONSIVE TO 57?
I WILL WAIT AWKWARDLY FOR TEN SECONDS.
OKAY, THERE.
SO -- SO THIS ITEM HAS BEEN CONTINUED A FEW TIME, AND
SPEAKING WITH STAFF ON IT BEFORE, THE IDEA WAS THAT STAFF
WAS GOING TO BE HERE TO DISCUSS.
THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE MOTION, WHICH IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION
ON THE DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE PARK EQUIPMENT WE ARE HAVING IN
SOUTH TAMPA AS WELL AS IN THE NORTH AND NEW TAMPA AREA AND
WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING AND AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
WE HAD A MEMO THAT STATES AS FOLLOWS: CITY COUNCIL'S MOTION
TO RESPOND ON THE ROLLOUT PLAN FOR INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND
EQUIPMENT WITH A RQ PROCESS WHICH RESTRICTS OUR ABILITY TO
COMMENT.
AND SAYS ADA EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.
I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ANY COMMENT ON THE CONTRACT, AND I
DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE WITH STAFF.
I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT THE LARGER VISION AT THE SOUTH AND
NORTH TAMPA AREA FOR PLAYGROUND ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT THERE
OUTSIDE OF THE CRA.
AND I WAS TOLD AGAIN -- IT IS REPRESENTED THAT STAFF WAS
GOING TO BE HERE TODAY.
FOUND THAT OTHERWISE.
REACHED OUT TO THE PARENT SOURCE WHO DIDN'T WANT THEM TO BE
HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR AN
ANSWER ON THAT.
ACCORDINGLY, UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS, I WANT TO
CONTINUE THIS WITH THE REQUEST FOR STAFF TO BE HERE.
AGAIN, NOT A RADICAL REQUEST AT ALL.
STAFF IS HERE FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN WAITING HOURS ON END.
THIS WAS NUMBER ONE ON AGENDA AFTER LUNCH.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY BECAUSE IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
IF I MAY, NEXT APPLICABLE ONE WOULD BE JANUARY 22.
THERE IS ONE THAT IS ON HERE ON JANUARY 22 FOR STAFF REPORTS
THAT WILL BE BUMPED.
AND WE WILL DO THAT.
YOU GUYS HAVE MY WORD ON THAT.
I CAN'T SAY WHAT IT IS FOR REASONS, BUT IF I MAY, I WOULD
REQUEST THIS TO BE ON JANUARY 22.
AND BY THE WAY, IF THERE IS A REASON WHY STAFF CAN'T BE HERE
OUTSIDE OF THE RFQ ISSUE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
WE CAN TALK.
THAT IS COOL.
AND THEN MAYBE I CAN WITHDRAW THIS.
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A VERY
IMPORTANT DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
MY MOTION IS FOR JANUARY 22.
THANK YOU.
02:06:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW DO WE -- WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIVE RULES.
02:06:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY --
02:06:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
HEARING WHAT THE COUNCILMAN SAID WITH THE UNDERSTANDING --
WAIVING RULES AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT WILL GO BACK TO SEVEN
ITEMS.
02:06:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT ON THAT.
ONE ITEM WE WILL NOT BE HEARING ON.
LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN GUESS WHICH ONE IT IS.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
02:07:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
BUT OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES?
02:07:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MAKE A MOTION.
02:07:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES AND TO MOVE ITEM
--
02:07:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MADE THE MOTION.
02:07:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE STILL HAVE TO WAIVE RULES BECAUSE OUR
RULES ARE SEVEN.
SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ITEM 57 -- FILE NUMBER CM25-17928
TO JANUARY 22 AND WAIVING THE RULES.
AND --
02:07:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FIRST AS WELL.
02:07:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PUTTING IT FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
02:07:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
02:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT THESE TYPES OF -- SO THESE CAN BE
VOICE?
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 32 YOU PULLED.
02:08:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
IT CAME UP FASTER THAN I THOUGHT.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE THAT I WANTED TO MENTION.
ONE IS THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
IF YOU GO THROUGH THE LONG DOCUMENT, AND I GOT IT TABBED AND
I CAN GIVE YOU GUYS COPY OF IT, IF YOU WANT, BUT ONE ON PAGE
-- AND BEGINNING OF THE DOCUMENT, THEY SAY THAT THE
AGREEMENT -- THE AGREEMENT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS -- WE KNOW THEY HAVEN'T DONE
EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
NUMBER TWO, IN HERE -- I WON'T GO THROUGH THE EXACT -- THE
EXACT NUMBERS, BUT IN HERE, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW YOUR -- HOW
YOUR GRANTEE REPRESENTS THAT ALL STATEMENTS ARE CURRENT
AND COMPLETE AND ACCURATE AND ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE GRANT.
WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE.
AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING ONE OF SITES TALKED THIS MORNING.
AND I CONSULTED OTHER ATTORNEYS AND FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT US APPROVING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
ACCURATE.
THERE IS A $54 MILLION NUMBER THAT WE ARE OBLIGATING
OURSELVES TO TODAY.
AND WE HAVEN'T -- WE ONLY OBLIGATED OURSELVES TO $7 MILLION,
NOT TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.
AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FINAL CONFIGURATION IS.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS GOING TO COST PRIVATELY.
FOLKS ARE TELLING US $100 MILLION OR SO AND I DON'T KNOW --
$65 MILLION OR WHATEVER IS GOING AROUND.
OTHER THING AT THE END, IN THE ATTACHMENT, IT SAYS THAT --
THE ATTACHMENT UNDER NUMBER B SAYS -- NOT B, BUT ANYWAY --
IN THE -- ANYWAYS, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW IT HAS TO BE COMPLETED
WITHIN A YEAR, AND WE KNOW IT WON'T BE COMPLETED WITHIN A
YEAR.
COMMUNITY -- FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY -- NOT MY WORDS, BUT
FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY SAY IT WILL BE FRAUD FOR THE CITY TO
APPROVE SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS NOT TRUE AND ACCURATE.
I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE -- I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR
SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TRUE AND ACCURATE.
BUT THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT ANDREW HAS
GOT SOME SLIDES UP THERE.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION REAL FAST, THE -- IN THE SUMMARY, IT
DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NAME.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE PROJECT.
IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED FOR THAT PURPOSE FOR THEMSELVES.
THE ADMINISTRATION CHANGED THE NAME OF IT WITHOUT TELLING THE
COMMUNITY WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE.
I WANT TO -- I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT -- VIK BHIDE.
WE HAVE A TRANSCRIPT OF VIK BHIDE A YEAR OR SO AGO SAID THIS
PROJECT WOULD ONLY HELP IN A FOUR-INCH STORM, AND MILTON WAS
11 AND A HALF.
AND THEIR EXCUSE, NOTHING CAN ANTICIPATE ANYTHING.
OKAY.
BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROTECT PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT FOUR
YEARS, AND EVERYBODY WILL CONTINUE TO FLOOD.
IF YOU LOOK AT -- IT HAS BEEN REPRESENTED -- THERE IS A --
ONE PERSON IN PARKLAND ESTATES WHO HAS BEEN TELLING PEOPLE
IN PALMA CEIA PINES THIS IS SOMEHOW GOOD FOR THEM.
EVERY ENGINEER I TALK TO INCLUDING FOLKS IN AND AROUND THIS
PROJECT SAID THIS WAS A SIDE PROJECT THAT -- THAT SOMEHOW
HAS TURNED INTO A BIG PROJECT.
WE KNOW IT IS BASICALLY GOING TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
NOT GOING TO HELP PALMA CEIA PINES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE -- MAYBE WE CAN SHOW THIS SLIDE.
IT'S JUNE 2025.
IT SHOWS THAT -- I DON'T HAVE THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS, BUT
BEFORE THIS SLIDE IN JUNE, THE CONFIGURATION DID NOT INCLUDE
ANYTHING IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
AS A POLITICAL MOVE TO INCLUDE PALMA CEIA PINES.
THEY PUT CONFIGURATION THERE.
GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND YOU SEE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT TO THE PRESENT, THEY
HAVE TAKEN PALMA CEIA PINES OUT.
EVEN SOME FOLKS IN PALMA CEIA PINES THINK THIS WILL HELP
THEM, BUT THEY ARE SCREWED BY THIS PROJECT.
IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THEM.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE ARE THE DOTTED GREEN LINES AND THE
LEGEND AT THE BOTTOM SAYS "PHASE 2."
EVERYBODY IS SAYING THAT PHASE 2 IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE $100
MILLION, NOT PROJECTED OF THE TIMELINE.
MORE THAN FOUR YEARS.
PALMA CEIA PINES IS TOTALLY SCREWED BY THIS.
CAN YOU GO TO NEXT SLIDE?
ALSO, THE -- YOU KNOW ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES
WHO SAY, OH, WELL, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR TEN
YEARS.
THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS ONLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A
COUPLE OF YEARS.
ALL KINDS OF MISINFORMATION, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS HELPING WITH THIS OR NOT,
BUT IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT IS HAPPENING.
THE REALITY IS THAT WE ONLY HAVE DOCUMENTS THAT WE CAN FIND
BACK TO 1998.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT RED HIGHLIGHT.
ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1998 AND AGAIN IN 2000, HIGHLIGHTED THAT
THE CORNER OF HABANA AND HORATIO WAS THE BIGGEST FLOOD RATIO
IN THIS WHOLE BASIN.
THE QUESTION IS WHY -- YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT COME HERE
AND SAY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WHY DID THE CITY ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THEIR HOUSE?
WHY DIDN'T THE CITY CAUSE THEM TO ELEVATE IT?
MAY BE A FLOOD ZONE AND COMING FROM WATER FROM THE
OUTSIDE.
SHOW THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WHAT THE RED ON THE LEFT SHOWS IS -- RED IS HIGH ELEVATION.
AND YOU SEE THAT BIG -- THAT BIG SPOT OF YELLOW IN THE
MIDDLE.
WHAT THE BIG SPOT OF YELLOW IN THE MIDDLE SHOWS THAT THE
CORNER OF HORATIO AND HABANA IS A BOWL.
THE BOTTOM OF A BOWL.
LIKE THE AREA BEHIND ON COACHMAN, BEHIND STOVAL.
REASON WHY THIS AREA FLOODS IS BECAUSE IT IS IN A BOWL.
THAT CORNER IS THE WORST IN THE REGION.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS ELEVATION STUDY AND SEE.
NOT JUST GETTING 11 AND A HALF INCHES FROM WHAT HITS ON THEM,
BUT FROM THE WHOLE AREA AND THE SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
IN HAVE NOT WORKED, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN STUDYING THEM FOR 40
TO 50 YEARS AND HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING.
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HIT WERE IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
NOT A CHOICE WHETHER WE HURT THE RESTAURANTS ON HOWARD OR
NOT, WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
EVERYBODY AROUND THIS KNOW THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
THEY MAY NOT SAY SO TO BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
WHATEVER REASON WANTS THIS PROJECT.
IF WE CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS, PALMA CEIA PINES
WILL NOT GET SCREWED.
OTHERWISE, PALMA CEIA PINES WILL FLOOD IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS
AND AFTER THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT
AND NOT INCLUDED UNTIL AFTERWARDS.
WE KNOW THERE NEEDS TO BE A PALMA CEIA PINES PROJECT.
PALMA CEIA PINES FLOODS AND A PORTION OF THE PARKLAND
ESTATES.
ALLOW PALMA CEIA PINES TO FLOOD AND PULL THE WATER OUT OF
PARKLAND ESTATES.
UNCONSCIONABLE.
HOW CAN WE DO THIS?
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING.
HOW DO WE SAVE HOMES AND POTENTIALLY SAVE LIVES BY CREATING
A PALMA CEIA PINES PROJECT.
IN THE CITY, WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION.
CITY KNOWN THIS SINCE 1998 AND HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL FIGHT.
THIS A FIGHT OVER WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM AND SPEND THE
MONEY CORRECTLY.
DESPITE THE FACT IF WE RAISE PROPERTY TAX FOR SALES TAX,
THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE.
AND WE HAVE -- WE HAVE 20 OR SO AREAS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT
GOT FLOODED, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THE
REST OF THEM.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE HERE?
I HAVE ANOTHER DOCUMENT FROM 200 THAT SHOWS -- AND WHAT?
THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDIES.
I WILL HAND THIS DOWN THE LINE.
A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION GOING ALL WAY -- I URGE TO YOU TO
LOOK AT THIS.
NOT ABOUT WHETHER WE TRUST ENGINEERS OR NOT.
WHAT IS BEST SOLUTION?
AND THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES WHY THIS IS
HAPPENING.
DO YOU LIKE STEAK VERSUS HELPING PEOPLE.
THE REALITY IS I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE NOT FLOOD.
PALMA CEIA PINES PROJECT IS THE RIGHT PROJECT.
IT IS IN THAT BOWL.
CAN YOU PUT THE RED UP ONE LAST TIME?
YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU CAN EASILY SEE THE PROBLEM
RIGHT HERE.
PALMA CEIA PINES IS IN A BOWL.
IF YOU PULL WATER OUT YOU HAVE PALMA CEIA PINES AND PREVENT
IT, AND THE CITY SHOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO DEVELOP THE
HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
02:16:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
AND THEN WE ALSO -- WE HAVE BRANDON CAMPBELL HERE.
02:16:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST OUT OF INTEREST, I WROTE THIS DOWN DURING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
MY QUESTION WAS, FOR THE GRANT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
HERE.
SOMEBODY -- I DON'T RECALL WHO SAID IT -- I AM NOT CALLING
ANYBODY OUT.
I AM CURIOUS AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE CALLED STAFF ON THIS
DURING MY BREAK.
IF WE ACCEPT THIS GRANT, ARE WE MARRIED TO THE PROJECT?
LET'S SAY THE PROJECT IS X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FIVE YEARS FROM
NOW AND INFLATION GOES CRAZY AND ANOTHER $20 MILLION.
ARE WE MARRIED TO THE PROJECT WITH GROSS AMOUNTS OF THE
PROJECT?
02:17:16PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DIRECTOR FOR
THE CITY.
I WANTED TO TALK REAL QUICK IN RESPONSE TO THAT, AND JUST IN
GENERAL OF THE ACTION THAT IS ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA TODAY.
JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS BEING ASKED FOR
APPROVAL FOR.
THERE IS A DOCUMENT THAT IS ON -- ON BASE, WHICH IS THE
PREVIOUS GRANT AGREEMENT THAT WAS VOTED ON, APPROVED, AND
EXCUSED IN EARLY 2024.
AND THEN THERE IS A DOCUMENT, WHICH IS THE REVISING TO THAT
OFFICIAL AGREEMENT.
THERE ARE -- THERE ARE SOME ATTACHMENTS TO THAT THAT ARE --
THAT HAVE REVISIONS TO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS ADMINISTRATIVE
IN NATURE, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, THE STANDARD GRANT AGREEMENT
WHICH REFERENCES THE COST, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT, AND --
AND SEVERAL OF DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BOTH IN
PUBLIC COMMENT AND IN -- IN OTHER DISCUSSIONS.
THOSE ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL GRANT AGREEMENT FROM 2024.
I -- I PRINT OUT A COPY, BUT IT IS ALSO ON BASE IF YOU CARE
TO REFERENCE IT.
TODAY, THE APPROVAL IS -- THE APPROVAL BEING SOUGHT IS FOR A
ONE-YEAR EXTENSION FROM JUNE OF THIS YEAR TO JUNE OF NEXT
YEAR.
OF COURSE, WE ARE LIKELY TO BE BACK HERE ABOUT THIS TIME
NEXT YEAR REQUESTING ANOTHER EXTENSION TO THAT GRANT, BUT
FUNDAMENTALLY TODAY, IT IS A REQUEST FOR A NO COST TIME
EXTENSION TO THAT EXISTING GRANT THAT WAS EXECUTED IN 2024.
NO OTHER NEW COMMITMENTS ARE BEING MADE BY TODAY'S
RESOLUTION, IF IT IS ADOPTED.
02:18:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, SO I -- AND, AGAIN, IT IS AN EXTENSION.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS -- I AM NOT GOING TO GUESS WHO SAID IT,
BUT -- BUT THAT IS MY -- MY QUESTION WHICH IS -- IT IS AN
EXTENSION.
IF WE ULTIMATELY DO ACCEPT THIS GRANT, DOES THAT MARRY US
THEN TO THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF IF -- IF THE COST OF IT ARE
EXPANDED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO EXCEPTIONAL
AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.
02:19:26PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
IF THE PROJECT WAS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD
AT THE APPROVAL OF THE GMP AND SOME OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE, THE
CIRCUMSTANCE DOESN'T CHANGE FROM TODAY'S ACTION.
SO WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IT THE PROJECT TO EXECUTING IT AS
PARTS OF THAT GRANT AGREEMENT.
OF COURSE, THAT COMMITMENT TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE --
SHOULD THE GMP NOT BE APPROVED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS A --
IS A COMMITMENT THAT WOULD BE FILED AT THAT TIME.
TODAY, IT'S TRULY -- IT IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT IS
WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY.
02:20:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
BY THE WAY, FOLKS, I THINK MR. De La PARTE WAS THERE.
IN MY PROFESSION, IT IS WHAT WE CALL A "MADE GUY."
HE IS AN EXCELLENT ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY.
I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH MORE STUFF, THANK YOU.
02:20:20PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
IF I MAY, AS WELL.
ONE OF ITS ITEMS THAT HE -- HE HAD BROUGHT UP WAS THE SLIP
REPORT.
IN THE -- IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT IS UPDATED, THERE IS
ADDITIONAL REFERENCE TO THAT SLIP REPORT, BUT IT WAS PART OF
THE 2024 GRANT AGREEMENT.
IT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR AND DUE 30 DAYS PRIOR TO
CONSTRUCTION.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE A TIMELINE CHALLENGE DUE TO THE
REQUIREMENT OF THAT SLIP REPORT.
02:20:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:20:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION.
GRANTS -- WHEN WE APPLY FOR GRANTS, WE APPLY FOR THEM WAY
BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTION.
NOT AFTER WE START CONSTRUCTION, AM I CORRECT?
02:21:01PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GENERALLY YES.
02:21:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BUT GENERAL FACT IS MOST OF THEM APPLY
WAY BEFORE YOU GET WHAT THE STATISTICS ARE AND WHAT CAUSES
SO FORTH AND SO ON.
02:21:11PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CORRECT.
02:21:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ESTIMATE IN THE $55 MILLION RANGE OR
CLOSE TO THAT.
AND I HEARD $100 MILLION.
I HEARD MORE THAN $100 MILLION.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?
WE ALSO GOT A QUOTE OF $55 MILLION TODAY, WHAT WILL IT BE
TWO DAYS FROM NOW?
LOOK FOR AN EXTENSION OF A YEAR BEFORE YOU GET START ANOTHER
YEAR AND A HALF AN SO ON.
YEAR AND A HALF IN TOTAL AND 2% OR 3% FOR INFLATION OR
SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS, BUT NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN AMERICA.
02:21:42PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
WITH THE CONTRACT STIPEND WITH KITCHENS
AND ATKINS.
02:21:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A FIGURE OF $100 MILLION.
02:21:57PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CLOSER TO $65 MILLION.
02:22:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO CLEAR THE TABLE. AND I DON'T
WANT TO HOLD ANYTHING BACK, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AT.
HEARD FROM HERE AND OTHER SOURCES, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CURE
A DAMN THING BY DOING THAT.
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY HEAR, HOWEVER, IT MAKES -- I AM
NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THERE IS NO WAY THAT I OR ANYONE SAYS
THAT FLORIDA IS NEVER GOING TO FLOOD.
BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO FLOOD.
DON'T HAVE FLOODING IN OTHER STATES, BECAUSE DON'T HAVE
MOUNTAINS.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS THEN, YOU HAVE FLASHFLOODING THAT TAKES
PLACE A HALF A TOWN AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF A CATEGORY 1 WILL HIT HER AND SIT FOR TWO
HOURS LIKE IT HAS IN THE CAROLINAS AS IT DID SOMEWHERE IN
NEW ORLEANS YEARS BACK AND WIPE OUT THE WHOLE CITY.
THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
WHATEVER I VOTE ON, EITHER WAY, IT IS NOT GUARANTEED 100%.
NOTHING IN LIFE IS GUARANTEED 100% EXCEPT ONE THING, DEATH.
02:22:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND TAXES.
02:23:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAXES, NO.
DO AWAY WITH SALES TAX, BUT WANT TO DO AWAY WITH AD VALOREM
AND SALES TAX AND INCOME TAX.
EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY FOR 15 SECONDS.
I MEAN, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE
SILLY IN GOVERNMENT.
I AM NOT TALKING ANYONE SPECIFIC.
GO AROUND IN CIRCLES AND COSTS YOU 10% MORE BECAUSE WE
DIDN'T DO THE DAMN THING FOR FIVE YEARS.
I WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
IT IS 55 NOW.
AND SOONER OR LATER, IT IS GOING TO BE MORE.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MORE IS WITHIN THE RANGE OF 1%
OR 2%.
02:23:39PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
WHEN WE GET TO THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM
PRICE, WHICH WE HOPE TO BRING BEFORE YOU LATE SUMMER, EARLY
FALL.
THAT IS THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
02:23:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NEXT QUESTION OR THE NEXT STATEMENT
IS THIS.
IF WE VOTE TO PASS A GRANT FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THINGS ARE CONSUMMATED IN THAT
AREA.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO GO.
IT MEANS THAT THE GRANT WAS CARRIED OVER SO YOU CAN HAVE A
BASE OF ANOTHER 10 POINT SOME MILLION DOLLARS.
AM I CORRECT?
02:24:12PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
02:24:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BECAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE VOTE.
MOVING THE MONEY OVER DOESN'T GET YOU THE PROJECT.
02:24:18PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CORRECT.
02:24:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
02:24:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
02:24:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HI, BRANDON.
JUST SO I CAN GET CLARITY FOR MYSELF.
I AM JUST READING THE -- JUST -- THIS HERE.
SO WE HAVE THE $10 MILLION IN THE GRANT FUNDING.
AND $54 MILLION MATCH FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, IS THAT
CORRECT?
02:24:44PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
OBLIGATED IN THE INITIAL GRANT
AGREEMENT, YES.
02:24:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WHAT I JUST HEARD YOU SAID IS THE COST OF
ENTIRE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THE 54, CLOSER
TO THE 100.
02:24:56PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CERTAINLY HIGHER THAN THAT 65, WHICH IS
THE TOTAL IN THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
02:25:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO THEN -- SO IF -- IF WE ARE -- IF WE ARE --
IF WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A MATCH ALREADY OF THE $55 MILLION,
THEN WHERE WOULD -- THE OTHER $150 MILLION, WHERE WOULD THAT
BE COMING FROM?
02:25:23PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
SO SOME WAYS THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED,
BUT I HAVE A FRIEND HERE THAT CAN TALK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT
THE BUDGET AMOUNT.
02:25:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YES, MA'AM, A GOOD QUESTION.
AS YOU HEARD THE DIRECTOR SAY, TO BE DETERMINED.
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME.
ONE OF THE MAIN OPTIONS WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL
PREVIOUSLY AND THAT IS ABOUT $20 MILLION WORTH OF EXISTING
DEBT FUNDING FOR THE LOWER PENINSULA PROJECT THAT IS NO
LONGER NEEDED.
SO YOU HAVE THE $10 MILLION IN PLAY HERE FOR THIS GRANT.
YOU GOT THE $54 MILLION THAT WAS THE MATCH AS THE DIRECTOR
SAID.
IT IS.
ABOUT $65 MILLION THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE $20 MILLION IN PLAY THAT WE ARE PREPARED
TO BRING TO COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISION ON THAT SOME TIME IN
THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL OPTIONS, THE COMMUNITY
INVESTMENT TAX WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
TALKED OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FOR DISASTER
RECOVERY.
NOTHING HARD AND FAST ON THAT.
BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS THE 700ISH MILLION DOLLAR GRANT THAT THE
COUNTY RECEIVED FOLLOWING THE TWO STORMS.
SO WE ARE GOING TO GET SOME SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FROM THAT.
THERE IS MUCH WATER TO BE CROSSED BEFORE WE CAN COMMIT TO
THAT.
EITHER THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING OR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR
THIS PROJECT, BUT IT IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE THAT WE
ARE HOPEFUL FOR.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
BUT RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST TARGET FOR US IN TERMS
OF MEETING THE DISCREPANCY IN AVAILABLE FUNDING WOULD BE
THAT $20 MILLION, $21 MILLION FOR THE LOWER PINELLAS.
02:27:08PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
ESSENTIALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT $100 MILLION RIGHT NOW
FOR THE PROJECT?
02:27:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T KNOW YET.
02:27:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OH, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
02:27:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE DON'T HAVE THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE
BUT WOULDN'T BE TOO OFF BASE WELL IN EXCESS OF THE $65
MILLION FIGURE.
02:27:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WITH THE INVESTMENT TAX.
THAT IS ASSUMING LIKE A TAX -- LIKE CITY OF TAMPA TAXPAYERS
HAVE TO PAY?
02:27:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS -- I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THROUGH
TOO MANY RABBIT HOLES.
EXISTING SALES TAX.
COUNTY DOES.
RECENTLY THE VOTERS APPROVED AN EXTENSION OR RENEWAL YOU HAVE
OF THAT TAX THAT TAKES EFFECT NEXT DECEMBER.
AND AS PART OF THAT PLAN, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF
PRIORITIES ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE ANTICIPATE GETTING FROM
THAT -- IT IS ABOUT A 15-YEAR TAX.
WE THINK IT IS ABOUT $700 MILLIONISH FOR THE CITY, AND WE
SUBMITTED A LIMITED PLAN.
WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AS TO WHAT WE DO WITH THAT MONEY,
AND WE MADE IT VERY FLEXIBLE.
IN FACT, WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT FOR MOBILITY.
WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
A LARGE AMOUNT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT WILL PROBABLY -- I WON'T SAY" "PROBABLY," BUT WILL TAKE
PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED, WE BEING CITY, THE
MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL.
BUT A $700-PLUS MILLION DOLLAR FUNDING ANTICIPATED OVER 15
YEARS THAT IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
02:28:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T LIKE SPENDING MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
WE BOND STUFF AND FINANCE STUFF.
THAT'S HOW PEOPLE GET IN TROUBLE.
THE FRIEND THAT USED TO TELL ME TRADE IN YOUR CAR EVERY TWO
YEARS AND JUST AN EXTRA $50 A MONTH AND ANOTHER $100 A MONTH
IN YOUR CAR PAYMENT.
LOOKING AT THE INTEREST, YOU NEVER GET OUT OF DEBT THAT WAY.
SO A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
IT IS OKAY TO BORROW AND OKAY TO HAVE DEBT.
IN THESE POLITICAL TIMES WHEN TALLAHASSEE WILL CALL FOR A
SPECIAL EXCEPTION ON PROPERTY TAXES, HOW MUCH REVENUE ARE WE
GOING TO USE?
C.I.T. RENEWAL, A 15-YEAR RENEWAL THAT AS YOU MENTIONED
STARTS OFF AT THE WE BEGINNING OF YEAR, HOW MUCH OF
THAT C.I.T. WILL BE COMMITTED TO OTHER PROBLEMS.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION OF POLICE ANTICS ON HOWARD AVENUE.
IF WE CAN USE EVERYTHING SO WE DON'T REASON IS BORROW SO
MUCH.
PRICE ESCALATION ON THIS PROJECT WE DON'T KNOW, $100
MILLION, $80 MILLION, AND $75 MILLION.
I DON'T KNOW.
I VOTED AGAINST MILLAGE PROPOSAL BACK IN '23.
IF THERE EVER COMES A TIME BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS REACHING
THE LAST 15 MONTHS, AND WE GO INTO THE NEW ADMINISTRATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE NEXT MAYOR IS GOING TO BE.
YOU NEVER KNOW, MAYOR MIRANDA?
I AM NOT GOING TO THROW NAMES OUT THERE.
BUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN FROM THE TALLAHASSEE LEVEL AND
FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
EVERY DAY IS BREAKING NEWS.
ALL DAY IS BREAKING NEWS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE
DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER SAYING IS, BUT -- YOU KNOW, IT'S
INTERESTING LOOKING AT THESE DOCUMENTS GOING BACK TO 1988
AND HORATIO AND SOME ARE SEVERE.
GREAT QUESTION BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
WHY WERE THESE HOUSES ALLOWED TO BE BUILT WITH WHEN WE HAD
THIS INFORMATION FROM 38 YEARS AGO, NUMBER ONE.
LOOKING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA CLEVELAND STREET BASIN MASTER
PLAN UPDATE.
WHERE ARE THE HORATIO STREET PROJECTS LOOKING AT THIS
UPDATED MAP?
DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE SECTION OF THE BROKEN DOTTED LINE AT
HORATIO?
HERE IT SAYS, CLEVELAND STREET.
IN ORDER TO ALLEVIATE TO OFFER FLOOD PROTECTION ASSOCIATED
WITH THE 100-YEAR 24-HOUR STORM EVENT.
WHERE IS THAT?
AGAIN, WHEN I VOTED FOR THIS AND I TELL THE STORY ALL THE
TIME.
SEPTEMBER 1, 2016 WAS A VERY DIFFICULT VOTE IN ORDER TO
RAISE FEES AND ADD A NEW FEE WHEN IT COMES TO STORMWATER.
$21 MILLION OF THAT IN ORDER TO SOFTEN THE BLOW.
BECAUSE I KILLED IT THE FIRST TIME, AND I BROUGHT IT BACK WAS
$20 MILLION IN C.I.T. FUNDING TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE
TAXPAYERS.
AND NOW THE COSTS ARE GOING.
YOU.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH REVENUE WE ARE GOING TO LOSE
REGARDING THE PROPERTY TAX SITUATION.
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO RAISE THE STORMWATER FEE,
RAISE THE MILLAGE.
BECAUSE NEXT YEAR IS A POLITICAL YEAR.
BUT IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE
TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.
PEOPLE TELL ME THINGS ALL THE TIME.
WHAT I WANT AT THE END OF DAY IS TO SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT
I DID THE RIGHT THING, AND I THINK FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
WE CAN ADDRESS THESE FLOODING PROBLEMS IN OTHER WAYS.
I KNOW WE TALKED OF DIFFERENT ROUTES, DIFFERENT CONCEPTUAL
DESIGNS.
WE TALKED TO ENGINEERS AND HEARD FROM LEGAL MINDS THAT COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA SAID "A MADE GUY," A HIGHLY RESPECTED
INDIVIDUAL.
A PERSON YOU GO TO FOR ADVICE AND INFORMATION.
BUT IN CLOSING, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS HERE.
AND, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN HERE FROM THE INCEPTION OF
THE -- OF THE STORMWATER -- NOT THE MAIN SENTENCE.
BUT NEWER ASSESSMENT SINCE 2016.
AND IF THIS CONTINUING TO BE CONTINUING ESCALATING COST AND
NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ADDRESS THE REST OF THE CITY,
THAT'S ALSO CONCERNING.
SOME I WILL LEAVE IT THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:32:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHAIR CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
02:33:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, I WOULD.
HELLO, BRANDON, MR. CAMPBELL.
02:33:06PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
02:33:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR YOU IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS -- I
WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, BECAUSE IF
YOU WERE TO ASK ME RIGHT NOW IF -- YOU KNOW, IT TALKING
ABOUT THEORETICAL COSTS.
IF THIS WILL BE $100 MILLION, RIGHT.
BUT THE VOTE THAT IS BEFORE US TODAY DOESN'T COMMIT US TO
THE PROJECT BEYOND WHAT WE DESIGNED.
02:33:34PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY COMMITMENT TO THE
PROJECT.
EXTENDS THE TIMELINE FOR MEETING COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE.
02:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEW COMMITMENT.
IF WE VOTED FOR THIS, ARE WE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING?
02:33:48PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
IN A MANNER OF SPEAKING.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO FDEP TO EXECUTE ON THE GRANT, BUT THE
COMMITMENT DOES NOT CHANGE BASED ON THE EXTENSION TODAY IF
THAT MAKES SENSE.
02:34:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
BUT WHAT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT IF WE VOTE ON
THIS TODAY AND OUR INTENT WOULD BE THAT THIS PROJECT IS --
GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN'T REASONABLY AFFORD IT.
THIS IS A MOMENT OF ESCAPE IF WE LET THIS THING EXPIRE SO WE
ARE NOT COMMITTED; IS THAT CORRECT?
02:34:26PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, I AM SORRY.
02:34:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WHAT I AM HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT IF WE
HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT THIS THING'S COST ESCALATED TO THE
POINT -- IN CONCEPT, I SUPPORT THIS PROBABLY.
I SUPPORT A LOT OF THINGS, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN'T
AFFORD.
IF THIS COSTS US TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS, IF
THIS IS A DECISION POINT OF TIME, RIP OFF OF THE BAND-AID
AND SAY, NO, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE THIS
COMMITMENT SO WE ARE NOT COMMITTED TO THIS AT ANY COST.
02:35:04PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I WOULD SAY THAT IS A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION;
HOWEVER, I WILL ADD TO THAT.
A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF THE PROJECT'S SPECIFICS AND ACCOUNT GMP
THAT WE OPEN.
I KNOW WE WILL BE COMING BACK ON THE 29th AS PART OF THE
PROJECT UPDATE OR GREAT EIGHT PRESENTATION.
AND WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONTINUAL DETAILS.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO ENHANCE AND DEFINE THE DOCUMENTATION
FOR THE PROJECT.
SO I DO BELIEVE THERE IS A CHANCE FOR A MORE COMPLETE
SHARING OF DETAILS WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
02:35:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOESN'T ABSOLVE MY CONCERN THAT IF WE
APPROVE THIS TODAY, WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO BE
COMMITTED -- WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE COMMITTED.
IT SEEMS LIKE -- THIS SEEMS LIKE FOR LACK -- BECAUSE COMMIT
TO THIS PART.
BUT SEEMS LIKE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP THE BLEEDING IF THE
ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO NOT SPEND, YOU KNOW, AN EXCESS OF $100
MILLION ON THIS PROJECT.
02:36:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I COULD EXPAND AND PERHAPS CLARIFY AND
HOPEFULLY NOT CONFUSE THE ISSUE.
FURTHER TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU HEARD
-- YOU HEARD DIRECTOR SAY -- I BELIEVE EVEN COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON SAID, WE OPEN AROUND THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WILL BE UP
HERE AGAIN ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION.
IF THERE IS A WAY OUT, SO TO SPEAK BY NOT IMPROVING THE
EXTENSION, COUNCIL WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN A YEAR,
BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN A
YEAR.
WHAT I CAN SAY FROM A DOLLAR AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE IS NOT
APPROVING THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY END THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT CAN STILL BE ENDED FROM OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
BUT NOT ENDING THIS WILL END OPPORTUNITY FOR A LITTLE OVER
$10 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
WAS THAT CLEAR?
02:37:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, MR. ROGERO,
BUT THERE STILLS SEEM TO BE LITTLE TOO GRAY.
MY INTENT, YOU KNOW, TO YOU ALL AND LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS AND
THE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS, I WAS GOING TO VOTE TO APPROVE
THIS GIVEN THAT IT WAS INFORMATION FOR SOMETHING WE ALREADY
AGREED TO, AND WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE A -- YOU ARE STILL
GOING TO HAVE A DECISION POINT COMING BEFORE US FOR A YES
AND NO.
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHAT I AM HEARING IN THESE ANSWERS
IS THAT THAT IS A GRAY AREA.
THAT DECISION POINT IS A GRAY AREA.
I KNOW YOU ARE SAYING LIKE A YEAR FROM NOW.
BUT ABSENT THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS -- THIS
IS -- I DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS WAS GOING TO BE A COMMITMENT
POINT.
02:38:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT MAY HELP CLARIFY IT FOR
YOU.
02:38:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, PLEASE.
02:38:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. CAMPBELL, WHY DO YOU COME TO US ONCE A
YEAR FOR THIS.
02:38:16PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GENERALLY, THEY GRANT AN EXTENSION ONE
YEAR AT A TIME.
02:38:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY ONLY GRANT EXTENSION ONE YEAR AT A TIME.
SO THIS IS IT.
THIS IS THE WAY THEY RUN.
WE HAVE TO DO IT UNDER THEIR RULES.
QUITE FRANKLY, WE CAN SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
WE CAN GIVE THE MONEY BACK.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THE GRANT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE GRANT MONEY.
WE HAVE DEBATED WHETHER TO TAKE GRANT MONIES BEFORE.
ON THAT NOTE, I ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY TIMES -- IS THERE
A LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF TIMES WE CAN AMEND THIS?
02:38:53PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A LIMIT, BUT TO
EXTEND IT THROUGH THE DURATION OF OUR TIMELINE.
02:38:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO ACTUALLY START THIS PROCESS?
WHEN DO YOU GET WORKING IN THE GROUND WITHNO STOPS OR NO
ANYTHING.
02:39:12PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
WE WILL HAVE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND LATE
THIS YEAR.
02:39:15PM >>YUAN LI:
YUAN LI, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, STORWATER SERVICES
DIRECTOR.
WE DID A PROJECTION OF THE TIMELINE.
I SHOWED THIS HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY
IN 30% DESIGN, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
WE ARE NEAR FOR COUNCIL TO GIVE APPROVAL FOR THE GMP IN THE
SUMMERTIME AND CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN.
PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, AND START WITH
CONSTRUCTION.
02:39:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND IT SAYS HERE ON JANUARY 2026, YOU WILL
HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, PRECONSTRUCTION PUBLIC MEETING.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT YET?
02:40:05PM >> I THINK THAT IS RELATED TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT UPGRADE.
02:40:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SEE.
I APOLOGIZE.
WE DO WATER MAIN --
02:40:16PM >>YUAN LI:
CORRECT.
WE ANTICIPATE HAVING 30% DESIGN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC PROBABLY
BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.
02:40:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MEETING AT THE END OF FEBRUARY TO TALK
ABOUT THAT.
SO A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO TALKED ABOUT WHY WE BUILT THE HOUSES.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THOSE HOUSES WERE BUILT IN THE '20s.
SO THEY WERE ALREADY THERE.
02:40:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT THE TOWN HOMES.
02:40:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT JUST PARKLAND ESTATES.
A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES WERE THERE.
SO -- AND I DO THINK THAT PEOPLE HERE TALKED ABOUT -- WE GOT
A LOT OF E-MAIL ABOUT COST.
AND THE OTHER THING I REALLY JUST WANT TO MENTION.
THERE WAS A GIANT COST TO THE PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR HOMES
AND HAD TO REBUILD.
GIANT COST IF THAT HAPPENS AGAIN.
AND ULTIMATELY, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING AWAY
STORMWATER.
IT'S OUR JOB.
IF IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY.
BUT ULTIMATELY, IT IS OUR JOB.
DO THE SAME THING IN FOREST HILLS.
WE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THE CITY'S JOB TO DO THAT.
BUYING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE HOUSES.
WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT EITHER.
SO IT IS CERTAINLY A DEBATE, BUT DEBATE IS HOW WE SOLVE THE
STORMWATER TO ME.
IT IS NOT BECAUSE IF IS NOT AN OPTION.
THE JOB OF THE CITY.
I AM SORRY THAT WE ARE AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO COME BACK
EVERY YEAR TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
BUT THIS HAS TO BE DONE.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY AROUND IT.
I KNOW WE ARE ABOUT TO GO ON TO ROUNDS TWO FOR ROUNDS TWO,
WE WILL DO MINUTES.
I SAW COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S LIGHT FIRST.
02:42:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH MADAM PRO TEM CHAIR.
NOT A MATTER WHETHER WE DO SOMETHING.
WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT ALL SCIENCE SHOWS WE NEED TO
DO A PALMA CEIA PINES PROJECT, AND WE NEED TO FIX THE
CONCORDIA FLOW NOT WHEN THE SYSTEMS WE HAVE IS BROKEN.
I WILL NOT HAVE TIME TO HAVE MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
THE $20 MILLION.
IF THERE WAS $20 MILLION LEFT OVER, THAT SHOULD HAVE COME TO
CITY COUNCI,L AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHERE IT GOES.
MANY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE CONCORDIA THAT HAVEN'T HAD
MAINTENANCE IN DECADES WHERE THEY ARE FALLING APART, AND WE
NEED HELP TOO.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FLOODED.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE MONEY,
IF IT IS AVAILABLE.
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS -- THE SAME THING WITH CIT.
02:43:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS, AND
THEY STOP THE TIMER.
02:43:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THING WITH THE C.I.T. -- MR. ROGERO, WHAT
IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO GET TO BEFORE WE RAISE
TAXES?
PEOPLE NEED TO DECIDE WHERE C.I.T. IS GOING ON FIRE TRUCKS
AND STATION FIRE STATIONS AND EVERYTHING AND WHY WOULD THEY
MOVE IT WITHOUT GIVING PUBLIC A CHOICE.
AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE TAXES?
02:43:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WHEN YOU SAID "RAISE TAXES," FOR
CLARIFICATION, PROPERTY TAX OR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT?
02:43:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EITHER ONE.
THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T LIKE THE TERM "SHELL GAME."
THAT IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, PULL FROM HERE AND HERE AND NOT
TELL THE PUBLIC WHERE IT IS COMING FROM.
THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE $54 MILLION, RIGHT?
UNLESS YOU FULL FROM SOME OTHER FUND.
02:44:01PM >> I CAN SAY AT THIS TIME NO INTENTION OF RAISING EITHER OF
THOSE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECT.
IN ANSWER TO THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX QUESTION, YOU ARE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
APPROPRIATING FUNDING FROM THE C.I.T. FOR THIS PROJECT WILL
TAKE A COUNCIL DECISION.
AND THE TENTATIVE PLAN FOR THAT FUNDING, $700-PLUS MILLION
WIDELY AVAILABLE AND ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND ADOPTED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION.
IT IS ON THE WEB.
A DIALOGUE AND FURTHER DECISION OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT
FUNDING.
WE CAN NOT DO THAT UNILATERALLY.
02:44:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ONE PUBLIC MEETING THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION HAD ON THIS PROJECT.
IT WAS A ONE WAY.
IT WAS ASYMMETRIC.
ONE-WAY COMMUNICATION.
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
ANYONE DISAGREES WITH US, SCREW YOU.
WE DON'T CARE THAT PALMA CEIA PINES IS GOING TO FLOOD.
THIS REQUIRES US TO GUARANTEE THAT THE INFORMATION IS
COMPLETE AND ACCURATE.
AND YOU ARE ONLY AT 30% DESIGN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO THIS.
I THINK THIS WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL AFTER THE 60 DAYS, AND
WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING SOMETHING THAT I DON'T
BELIEVE IS COMPLETE AND ACCURATE, THANK YOU.
02:45:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I CAN JUST SPEAK TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.
AND OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, YOU DO WHETHER WE HAVE A 60-DAY
WINDOW TO MAKE THE DECISION FROM THE GRANTOR'S
PERSPECTIVE?
WE CAN FIND OUT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT I
DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A 60-DAY WINNER.
02:45:34PM >>YUAN LI:
I CAN CONFIRM WITH THE GRANTS TEAM, BUT AS FAR AS I
KNOW, THE EXPRESSION DATE IS JUNE 30 THIS YEAR.
NORMALLY, WE CONSIDER ADVANCING THIS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND
BACK AND FORTH AND APPROVAL AND SEEING THE NATURE TO COME.
AND MY OPINION IS PROBABLY WE -- WE CAN STILL BE IN THE
WINDOW IF WE -- IF WE COME BACK AFTER THE WORKSHOP IF THAT MAKES
SENSE.
02:46:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOING TO ASK TO YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
AND STATE YOUR NAME AT THE BEGINNING.
LOOKS LIKE MR. VASKE IS UP TO SPEAK.
02:46:11PM >>JUSTIN VASKE:
JUSTIN VASKE, AND I ASKED FOR THE GRANT
ANALYSIS AND SOMEWHERE IN MARCH WE NEED TO HAVE IN WRAPPED
UP.
02:46:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
02:46:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY AND
PRODUCE IT.
SPEND OVER $100 MILLION IN WATER, AND THE DIRECTOR SAID SPENT
OVER $100 MILLION.
AND THE REFUSE ENERGY PLANT.
$100 MILLION EACH.
AND NOT JUST ONE.
ALL OF THAT WAS BONDED.
02:46:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MUCH OF IT WAS.
02:46:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE GENERAL FUND IS THE ONE GETTING
SCREWED IN A WAY, AND I WILL TELL YOU HOW.
31% OF THE SALES TAX IN THE C.I.T., AM I CORRECT?
02:47:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
02:47:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW MUCH DO WE GET, 25%?
02:47:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
02:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DOESN'T TAKE A MATHEMATICIAN.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS CAN CHANGE IN FIVE MONTHS OR TWO
MONTHS.
BUT THE MONEY FROM THIS GRANT THAT IS A GIFT FROM THE STATE
GOVERNMENT.
IT IS THE SAME THING AS THE -- AS THE BULLET TRAIN.
$7 BILLION FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
OH, WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
WE CAN GO FURTHER AND STILL KILL THE PROJECT IF WE REALLY
WANTED TO; AM I CORRECT?
02:47:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
02:47:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT IS THE DANGER?
02:47:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I MAY, TO ADD TO THAT, SO WE ARE ON THE
SAME PAGE, AND I WANT EVERYBODY'S EYES TO BE WIDE OPEN.
THIS TYPE OF GRANT FUNDING HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED AND ALREADY
PART OF CITY'S BUDGET.
02:48:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT ONLY HERE FROM OUT ON THE STREET, THE
HOSPITAL HAD SOMETHING UNDERGROUND AND THIS BUSTED AND THIS
HAPPENED, AND THE OTHER PART HAD THIS.
A COMPLEX -- MORE THAN ONE PROBLEM WITH THEN FLOOD HAPPENED.
SO NOW THEY SAY WE FIX THIS.
WE CAN'T FIX THE PINES AREA?
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S IT.
MY TIME IS UP.
02:48:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:48:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOING BACK TO IN 1988 CLEVELAND STREET
BASIN DRAINAGE STUDY.
AREAS THAT ARE SEVERE.
I WENT TO SCHOOL WHERE THE GREEK CHURCH IS AT ON SWANN IN
1992 TO 1998.
ENTRANCE OF PARKLANDS ESTATES WAS OPEN AT ARMENIA AND SWANN.
NOW IT HAS CLOSED OFF.
THAT AREA HAS CHANGED TREMENDOUSLY.
OLDER HISTORIC HOMES.
IT LOOKS LITTLE TO HOW I REMEMBER IT, RIGHT.
WHEN IT WILL RAIN HEAVILY, OUR -- OUR FOOTBALL FIELD, SOCCER
FIELD WILL FLOOD, AND I WILL GO AND CATCH TADPOLES.
IT WAS A BASIN, A BOWL.
IT WAS A FIELD.
BUT SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION HAS HAPPENED AND SO MANY CHANGES
SINCE I STARTED IN SCHOOL HERE IN 1992.
IT IS NOT EVEN RECOGNIZABLE.
APARTMENTS WERE NOT THERE.
SWANN WAS DIFFERENT.
SO MUCH IMPERMEABLE SERVICE.
YOU BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IN 1998, IT ALREADY SHOWS AND IT
WAS KNOWN, SEVERE FLOODING.
SEVERE, SEVERE, SEVERE.
AND YET SO MUCH CONSTRUCTION WAS ALLOWED.
I GOT HERE IN 2015.
THIS PREDATES ME BEING HERE AND SO MANY CHANGES THAT COME TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE EXACERBATED THE SITUATION AND
MADE IT WORSE WITHOUT REALLY ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, KNOWING
THAT IT IS FLOODING AND SEVERE TO MODERATE IN SOME SECTIONS
LOOKING AT THIS CHART.
AND KEEP BUILDING AND TAKING AWAY THAT PERMEABLE SERVICE.
LESS GREEN AND MORE CONCRETE AND YOU SEE HOW THE SOHO, PALMA
CEIA PINES IS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE.
THANKS.
02:50:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
02:50:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
02:50:18PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO I WANT TO SAY, ONE, RECOGNIZING THAT I
THINK PRO TEM CHAIR HURTAK -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MADE A
REALLY GOOD POINT THAT IT IS -- IT IS IMPORTANT AND
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
STORMWATER IS A BIG ISSUE AND FLOODING IS A BIG ISSUE IN
FLORIDA.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
SOME I KNOW THAT -- I AM THINKING BACK TO -- I REMEMBER WHEN
-- WHEN COVID HAPPENED.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT BUSINESSES AND
NONPROFIT PEOPLE COULD APPLY FOR TO HELP THEIR BUSINESSES,
TO PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES FOR THE TIME, THAT THEY HAD TO BE
SHUT DOWN OR SOMETHING.
HAVE WE THOUGHT OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE EVENT THERE ARE
SOME BUSINESSES THAT GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SOME SERIOUS
CHANGES OR MAY LOSE THEIR BUSINESS OR LOSE STAFF.
ANYTHING WE HAVE IN PLACE POSSIBLY ME FOR THAT?
02:51:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT.
WHAT I CAN SAY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PANDEMIC AND THE
SUBSTANTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED, AND STATE
FUNDING.
THE MAGNITUDE, I THINK, OF WHAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED
FOR A SCENARIO LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD ENTAIL OUTSIDE FUNDING.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY WOULD.
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A FINAL ANSWER, AND I DON'T THINK THE
CITY WILL HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO IS SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH TO
-- TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OTHER WORDS.
02:51:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NEAR TYPE OF GRANT WE CAN SPECIFICALLY APPLY
FOR THAT?
02:52:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I BELIEVE THERE ARE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF OUTSIDE FUNDING OTHER
PEOPLE'S GRANT FUNDING AND ALWAYS LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES
AND ALWAYS PURSUE THEM IF IT IS IN THE CITY'S INTEREST.
I WILL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY ON AVAILABLE
GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT PURPOSE.
02:52:25PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OF COURSE, IT WON'T BE -- YOU KNOW, COVID WAS
A VERY DIFFERENT TIME THAT I AM SURE WE ALL WANT TO FORGET.
THINKING OF THAT LINE OF THINKING HELPING THOSE BUSINESSES
AN ORGANIZATIONS OUT.
THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, I HEARD A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
ALTERNATIVE, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE
MAINTENANCE.
IS THAT, LIKE COMPLETELY, COMPLETELY OUT OF THE QUESTION?
WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT HELP OR
ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING IN THIS AREA.
02:52:56PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I CAN CHIME IN ON THAN JUST BRIEFLY.
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE CONSIDERED ALTERNATIVES INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE
ADDITIONAL THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE SOUTH HOWARD
BUSINESS ALLIANCE AND CONCLUDED THAT THE PROJECT IN FRONT OF
US IS THE BEST OPTION.
02:53:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
SO A FOUR-PHASED PROJECT?
FOUR PHASES?
02:53:27PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CONSTRUCTION STARTS AT THE DOWNSTREAM
END AT THE BAYSHORE SHORTFALL AND MOVED IN SHORT SEGMENTS.
BY SUGGESTED IT IS MORE THAN FOUR, BUT I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE
WHAT THAT PHASING PLAN WOULD BE UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR.
02:53:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
OR CHAIR CLENDENIN.
02:53:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL GOOD.
MR. CAMPBELL AND MR. ROGERO, WHICHEVER.
TODAY YOU HAVE FOR US TO VOTE ON THE DATE CHANGE IN THE
EXTENSION.
I AM STILL NOT CLEAR -- BECAUSE I AM HEARING A LOT OF WIGGLE
ROOM.
I NEED AN ABSOLUTE -- BECAUSE -- I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK'S ASSESSMENT IS THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
REMOVE STORMWATER.
BUT, OF COURSE, WE HAVE CHALLENGES ALL OVER THE CITY AT WHAT
COSTS.
WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE NEEDS VERSUS COST.
AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO EVERYTHING.
BUT -- SO AT THIS -- IF THIS PROJECT COMES BACK TO US AND
THE $100 MILLION FIGURE.
THIS COMES BACK TO US AT $100 MILLION.
COMES BACK TO US WITH $100 MILLION.
IF I ACCEPT THIS GRANT TODAY, CAN WE SAY WE KNOW THE $100
MILLION IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE?
02:54:55PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YOU ARE ASKING IF THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM
PRICE VOTE SUPERCEDES THIS?
IS THAT THE QUESTION?
02:55:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO COMMITMENT.
IF WE SAY WE EXTEND THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND WE PREVIOUSLY
COMMITTED TO THIS, AND NOW THAT IT IS EXPIRING.
IF WE SAY WE ACCEPT THIS, ARE WE COMMITTED TO SAY THAT IF
THIS GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE COMES UNDER $100 MILLION PLUS?
WILL WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WELL, YOU VOTED FOR IT.
02:55:29PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YOU HAVE SAME OPPORTUNITY -- I
ANTICIPATE YOU HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE TODAY
SHOULD YOU WISH TO REJECT THE NEXT EXTENSION, IF THAT -- IF
THAT MAKES SENSE.
02:55:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE JEAN DUNCAN LOGGED ON.
WITHOUT PENALTY?
02:55:44PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I DON'T KNOW IF JEAN WANTED TO SAY
SOMETHING.
AT LEAST --
02:55:48PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
SURE.
IF THE CHAIRMAN RECOGNIZES ME, I AM HAPPY TO WEIGH IN.
02:55:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN?
02:55:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ABSOLUTELY.
02:55:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, I DIDN'T, MISS DUNCAN.
02:56:02PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
THANK YOU, JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR OF
MOBILITY.
TO TRY TO BE A LITTLE CLEARER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN.
IF THERE IS A VOTE TODAY, WHAT THIS DOES IS CONTINUES
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR $10 MILLION TO BE PROVIDED FOR THIS
PARTICULAR PROJECT.
A VOTE OF GO OR NO GO IS THE AUGUST, SEPTEMBERISH GMP,
GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, AND THE CONTRACT TO YOU.
THAT WILL HAVE SUBSTANTIAL DESIGN FROM THE -- FROM THE
CONTRACTOR TEAM THAT WE KNOW THEY CAN GUARANTEE IT.
OF THE PRICE OF PROJECT.
THAT IS A POINT IN TIME THAT -- THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MUCH OF
OUR FUNDING SCENARIOS LINED UP.
PROJECTS, YOU ALWAYS NEVER KNOW UNTIL THE VERY END.
IT IS SO COMPLEX.
AND IMAGINE ANY BIG DEVELOPMENTS.
THE SAME TIME -- A LOT OF DYNAMICS AND MOVING PARTS TO GET
HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
AGAIN, THAT GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE VOTE IS SOLVED FOR THE
CONTRACT TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS THE POINT IN TIME THAT IT WOULD BE A GO OR NO GO.
IF IT IS A NO GO, THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS, OF COURSE, WE
BELIEVE IT TO BE A VERY GOOD PROJECT THAT WILL NOT PROCEED.
AND THE OTHER NEGATIVE IS THAT, WE WILL HAVE TO GIVE THIS
MONEY BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
WHICH IS RARELY DONE, BUT IT IS AN OPTION.
AND NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS WOULD EVER HAPPEN THAT A PROJECT
GOT TO A POINT AND FOR WHATEVER REASON IT DIDN'T PROCEED.
THAT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
THE MEANTIME, SINCE THAT IS NOT DETERMINED YET, WHY NOT KEEP
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GRANT FUNDING TO STAY ON THE TABLE.
WHY DO THAT PREMATURELY AND THEN REGRET YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
WHEN IT COMES ALONG IN AUGUST.
02:57:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MISS DUNCAN, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS A NO RISK THAT WE CAN VOTE TO
CONTINUE THE $10 MILLION TODAY.
DOES NOT OBLIGATE IT.
DOES NOT TIE THAT HAND FROM THAT GO, NO GO VOTE.
THIS IS A NO-YES VOTE.
02:58:13PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
CORRECT.
02:58:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT IS WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:58:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I WAS GO TO ABOUT TO THE NEXT ROUND, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:58:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MAY HAVE MORE TO SAY OF THAT.
YOU ARE THE ONLY STORMWATER ENGINEER OR WATER ENGINEER,
RIGHT?
YOUR BACKGROUND IS IN STORMWATER>
02:58:39PM >>YUAN LI:
THAT IS RIGHT, YUAN LI, STORMWATER SERVICES DIRECTOR.
02:58:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BASED ON WHAT MISS DUNCAN SAID, BECAUSE A
LOT OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES OF US SLOWING THE PROJECT DOWN.
EVEN IF THIS IS APPROVED TODAY, THE GMP WILL COME BACK THIS
SEPTEMBER.
WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES IS
PROTECTED FROM FLOODING.
AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
CONSIDERING THAT PALMA CEIA PINES MAYBE IN PHASE TWO NOT
INCLUDED IN THE $100 MILLION.
WHEN IS THE FIRST PARKLAND -- THAT PALMA CEIA PINES.
WHEN IS THE FIRST THAT PARKLAND RESIDENTS.
IT WENT FORWARD IN SEPTEMBER, BUT WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT
EITHER OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE PROTECTED?
02:59:27PM >>YUAN LI:
GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK AS BRANDON MENTIONED BEFORE, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL
START AS DOWNSTREAM AND UPSTREAM AND TAKE ABOUT A WHOLE
THREE AND A HALF YEARS TO COMPLETE PHASE ONE.
PARKLAND ESTATES, PROBABLY YOU CAN SEE -- AS BECAUSE OF
BENEFIT WOULD BE SEEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION.
I IMAGINE PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO THREE YEARS AND
WE WILL BE MOVING TOWARD THE PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:00:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO -- JUST TO REPEAT WHAT YOU HAD SAID TO
MAKE SURE I HEARD IT RIGHT.
SOME INCREMENTAL LIKE AROUND TWO OR THREE YEARS.
BUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
03:00:10PM >>YUAN LI:
RIGHT BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE BROKEN INTO SEGMENTS.
03:00:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS LIKE 2029, EARLY -- EARLY 2030, BEFORE
PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:00:19PM >>YUAN LI:
PROBABLY LATE 2029.
03:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT ABOUT -- PALMA CEIA PINES.
AM I CORRECT THAT PALMA CEIA PINES IS NOT PART OF THE $100
MILLION?
IT WILL BE PHASE TWO.
PHASE TWO TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS BEYOND THAT, 2032 OR
WHAT?
03:00:38PM >>YUAN LI:
A GREAT QUESTION.
WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION TIME OF PHASE
ONE DOING ALL THE PROCUREMENT.
AND MORE PLAN FOR THE PROCUREMENT AND DESIGN.
SO WE WILL SEE IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION CONTINUING AFTER THE
COMBINATION OF THE PHASE ONE.
03:00:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW MUCH LONGER.
DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE A COUPLE MORE YEARS OR THREE
YEARS?
03:00:58PM >> I WOULD SAY -- WE WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE CONTRACTOR BUT
I IMAGINE 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS.
03:01:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES.
WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION.
BUT AS -- AS MY PREDECESSOR SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A LONG-TERM
PROJECT AND NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTION ON THE TABLE.
I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD DIG OUT FOUNTAIN PARK EVEN THOUGH IT
WILL NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH RELIEF AND WE NEED TO DO MORE
PROJECTS IN PALMA CEIA PINES FOR THE PALMA CEIA PINES PEOPLE.
2O32 OR '33, EVEN IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON TIME.
03:01:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS DUNCAN.
03:01:36PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YES, THANK YOU.
JEAN DUNCAN, MOBILITY.
THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION CORRECTLY; HOWEVER, WANT TO ADD
THAT HER QUESTION IS ANSWERING WHEN IS THE PHYSICAL
CONSTRUCTION BENEFITING PALMA CEIA PINES.
AS THIS PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED, THERE ARE INDIRECT BENEFITS TO
THE UPSTREAM AND THE DOWNSTREAM PORTION IS COMPLETED.
WHAT COMES UP FROM UPSTREAM IS OBLIGATED BY BIGGER CAPACITY
AND GETS CREATED IN THE DOWNSTREAM SECTION.
WE BELIEVE THERE IS INCREMENTAL BENEFIT.
THE MAJOR BENEFIT HAVE A FULL SYSTEM BUILT, BUT THE LONGER
WE TAKE TO BUILD THE SYSTEM, THE LONGER THE PROBLEM EXISTS
AND THE PROBLEM IT IS FOR PALMA CEIA PINES.
I WANT TO ADD AN INCREMENTAL BENEFIT FROM DAY ONE.
03:02:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I -- SINCE YOU ARE THE STORMWATER MANAGER.
I SHOWED THE ELEVATION FLOOD PLANE.
WATER -- ALL THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS GOING BACK TO 1998,
TALKING TO OTHER ENGINEERS.
JUST LIKE AROUND AIRPORTS AREA, THE STOVAL HOUSE.
11 AND A HALF INCHES IN ONE SPOT AND COMING IN THE RED AREAS
AND POURING DOWN INTO THE YELLOW AREAS, RIGHT.
SO PALMA CEIA PINES, ESPECIALLY THAT CORNER OF HABANA AND
WHATEVER IT WAS, THEY ARE GETTING PROBABLY 40 INCHES
SINCE IT IS COMING DOWN FROM AREA.
ALL THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE PRIOR STUDIES THAT WATER BECAUSE
OF ITS CONFIGURATION OF THE DITCHES AND DRAINAGE PONDS.
DRAINAGE PONDS ARE ABOVE GRADE AND HAVEN'T BEEN DUG OUT FOR
A LONG TIME.
BECAUSE OF THE TIME THEY WERE CONFIGURED.
THAT AREA STILL IS FLOODED.
AND WHEN THAT AREA FLOODS, IT POURS INTO PARKLAND.
AND SO, I DON'T SEE HOW WE PROTECT PALMA CEIA PINES
INCREMENTALLY.
AND NOT LIKE THE WATER IS BACKING UP.
WATER IS BACKING UP AND FIRST, PALMA CEIA PINES HAS THE FLOOD
AND THEN GOES INTO PARKLAND, HYDROLOGY OF IT.
03:03:39PM >> YOU ARE RIGHT, COUNCILMAN.
THE ORIGINAL STUDY WAS 1982.
IF I DO REMEMBER CORRECTLY, SOME OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES WERE
PROBABLY PART OF THE STUDY ORIGINAL HIGH AT PBSJ, THAT IS A
FIRM, TO PERFORM THE STUDY.
AND THERE IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE -- WHAT YOU MENTIONED BEFORE,
THE DIFFERENTIAL.
AND I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CLEVELAND SYSTEM WAS
OVERTAXED.
BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WAS BUILT BY FDOT, IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY.
AND PARTIALLY THE PROBLEM WAS THEY -- THEY WERE DESIGNED
PRIOR TO THE STORMWATER REVELATION, AND ALSO THE DESIGN WAS
NOT CONSIDERING THE DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO AND PARTIALLY
DESIGNED.
IT WAS UNDERDESIGNED AND A PROBLEM ACCUMULATING TO HABANA
AND HORATIO CORNER AND WHEN THEY ARE AT THE LOWEST POINT.
WHEN THEY ARE IN OVERFLOWING, THEY FLOW TO THE PARKLAND
ESTATES.
HAPPENING THE PAST FEW YEARS.
03:04:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS I UNDERSTAND --
03:04:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
THAT IS TWO MINUTES.
I WILL BE HONEST, LIKE WE ARE GOING WAY FAR OF THE ACTUAL
POINT TODAY, WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE CONTINUATION OR NOT.
03:05:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONE LAST ONE, PLEASE.
03:05:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TIMER PLEASE, TWO MINUTES.
03:05:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M HERE LISTENING AND LISTENING.
I TELL MYSELF, IF EVERYTHING FAILS, INCLUDING THIS ONE, YOU
ARE NEVER GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE, NOT THE PINES, NOT THE
NORTH, NOT THE EAST, NOT THE WEST AND NOT THE SOUTH.
NEVER.
SO JUST REMEMBER.
I CAN'T CONTROL THE WEATHER.
I CAN'T CONTROL STORMS THAT DON'T MOVE.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE LIKE THAT THAT STAYS OVER US LIKE IT
DID IN THE CAROLINAS.
AND I AM NOT TRYING TO SCARE EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE AND
SO FORTH AND SO ON.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH STUFF ON THE STREET EVERYWHERE
YOU GO.
EVERY DAY A LOT -- THIS IS MOVING $10 MILLION FOR ONE YEAR
FOR FREE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WAY RIGHT NOW.
JUST A SIGNED CONTRACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT.
SO WHAT IS KILLING THIS CONTRACT BY GOING -- YOU CAN VOTE
AGAINST IT.
IF YOU DON'T MOVE THE MONEY, YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THE MONEY
AND NEVER BUILD ANYTHING.
IF YOU DON'T BUILD ANYTHING NOW, FORGET THE REST OF THE CITY
BECAUSE NOT A DAMN THING WILL HAVE DONE AND THEY HAVE LOST
THE PUBLIC FAITH OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I CAN SAY THIS, I AM NOT AFRAID TO GO BY MYSELF.
I VOTED BY MYSELF FOR MANY YEARS.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY, BUT I CAN TELL
BY THE VOICE OF PEOPLE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE.
AND HOW THEY THINK.
SOME OF IT IS BODY LANGUAGE.
I HEAR WHAT THEY SAY, BUT THE BODY LANGUAGE TELLS ME ANOTHER
THING.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THIS -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HEARD THE BELL AND I STOPPED.
I DON'T WANT TO GET KNOCKED OUT AGAIN.
03:06:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO DOES ANYONE ELSE FROM ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY
MORE COMMENTS?
ANOTHER TWO-MINUTE ROUND.
IT DOES NOT SOUND -- SORRY, YES?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
03:06:57PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
JUST TO BE SURE, WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY
IS FOR THE -- TO JUST CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS $10 MILLION IN
THE EVENT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THE PROJECT WHEN
IT -- WHEN IT COMES BACK IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER?
03:07:13PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT,
YES, THERE IS JUST FOR THE EXTENSION BY ONE YEAR.
03:07:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND SO THE ---O -- THE $54 MILLION IN THE
MATCH.
THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED, RIGHT?
03:07:28PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES, THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS GRANT
AGREEMENT APPROVED IN 2024.
03:07:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
AND IF -- IF WE DECIDE DOWN THE LINE, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER,
WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US.
WE SAY, OKAY, NOPE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
THEN A -- THAT IS THE GO OR NO GO.
03:07:52PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
CORRECT.
03:07:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE I CANNOT MOVE THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS
MY COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I AM CHAIRING.
IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO WANTS TO
MOVE THIS.
SO I WILL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:08:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
03:08:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU WILL MOVE ITEM
NUMBER 32.
03:08:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECONDS.
03:08:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
03:08:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
03:08:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:08:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
03:08:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
03:08:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
03:08:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
03:08:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO VOTE YES WITH THE
EXPLANATION BECAUSE OF JEAN DUNCAN'S ANSWER THAT THIS WAS A
NO RISK VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS DECISION POINT TO -- UNTIL WE
GET THE MAXIMUM PRICE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A GO OR NO GO VOTE AT THAT POINT.
THAT IS THE REASON I AM VOTING THE WAY I AM VOTING.
03:08:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
03:09:01PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, YOUNG AND CARLSON
VOTING NO.,
03:09:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WAS ONE QUESTION.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A HUGE DEBATE, BUT I WANT YOU TO
ANSWER IT AS WE THINK OF GOING FORWARD.
THE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE MacDILL 48 PROJECT.
IS IT SPECIFIC TO WHAT IT CAN BE SPENT ON?
03:09:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD, BUT I
CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU.
IF I CAN FIND OUT WITHIN MINUTES.
03:09:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE SHORT QUESTION.
PEOPLE AROUND THIS PROJECT -- WITHOUT NAMING NAMES -- WHEN I
ASKED THEM LOOK AT ALL THE PRIOR PLANS.
YOU CAN GO INTO PALMA CEIA PINES.
AND THEY SAID THE WAY THE CONTRACT OR RFP WAS WRITTEN
DOESN'T INCLUDE PALMA CEIA PINES AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE.
WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS IF WE WENT THROUGH CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT PRIMARILY
SOLUTIONS FOR PALMA CEIA PINES AND PROTECT PARKLAND THAT
THEY CAN DO THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT?
IS THERE A WAY -- SINCE YOU ARE BARRELING DOWN THROUGH
SEPTEMBER, A WAY TO INCLUDE A ROBUST LOOK AT PALMA CEIA
PINES.
03:10:14PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
I WILL SAY AS WE DISCUSS MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE PROJECT IN
THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
I THINK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS MAY BE ANSWERED WITHOUT
HAVING CONTRACT LANGUAGE CHANGE.
BUT SHOULD WE DECIDE THAT AFTER THOSE DISCUSSIONS --
03:10:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CONTRACT AS IT EXISTS LIMITS THEM AT
LOOKING AT PALMA CEIA PINES?
03:10:42PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I DON'T KNOW, AND SHE MAY HAVE MORE TO
TALK OF IT, BUT BENEFITS FROM PALMA CEIA.
03:10:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:10:53PM >>YUAN LI:
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THE QUESTION THAT WE DO ALL THE MODELING EFFORT INCLUDING
PALMA CEIA PINES.
IT DOESN'T LIMIT US TO DO THE PLANNING EFFORT; HOWEVER, THE 03:11:09PM DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS NOT PART OF THIS CONTRACT.
BUT THERE IS PLENTY OF EFFORT AND FACING PLANNING ALREADY BEING
DONE.
THIS WILL BE SHARED WITH -- THE COUNCIL AT A WORKSHOP AND
ALSO WITH THE PUBLIC AT 30% DESIGN.
03:11:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
LIKE, WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
IF -- I AM SORRY, BUT THE QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.
WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 59.
WE ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE HERE A VERY LONG TIME.
AND WE ALL HAVE A 6:00.
YEAH, IT IS THE MLK GALA.
SO WE GOT TO BE THERE AT 6:00.
AND MISS SHARP, IF I CAN BORROW YOU.
OKAY, LET US KNOW WHEN YOU ARE READY.
I AM ASSUMING YOU HAVE A -- IS THERE A PRESENTATION COMING
UP ON THE SCREEN?
03:12:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
GOT EXTRAS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:13:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
59 IS NEXT.
03:13:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ONCE AGAIN, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME FOR US TODAY TO TALK ABOUT
OUR SECOND ANNUAL PRELIMINARY YEAR-END PRESENTATION.
I HOPE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WILL AGREE THAT LAST YEAR WHEN
WE DID THIS FOR THE FIRST TOO.
IT WAS VERY USEFUL, VERY WELL-RECEIVED.
WE CERTAINLY THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD COMMUNICATIVE
PRODUCT FOR BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND US, TO BE QUITE
FRANK.
WE HAVE HARD COPIES OF PRESENTATION, WHICH HAVE BEEN
DISTRIBUTED.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME FOR THE PUBLIC, AND WE WILL BE
E-MAILING THE DETAILED LINE ITEM FIGURES TO YOU FOLLOWING
THIS PRESENTATION.
AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE HARD COPIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
A LOT OF DETAIL AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN IT.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON AS WE DID LAST YEAR AND WILL CONTINUE TO
DO IN THE FUTURE.
THANKS TO MISS KOPESKY AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS AND HELPING US CRAFT WHAT WE
THINK IS A CONTINUALLY IMPROVING PRODUCT.
I ALSO APPRECIATE -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AND COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO CONTINUE
THIS ITEM FROM DECEMBER 18.
WE REALLY TRIED TO MEET THAT TIME TABLE.
SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE GIVING TO
YOU TODAY TWO MONTHS FROM WHEN YOU DID IT LAST YEAR.
AND WE REALLY WORK HARD TO TRY, AND ONE CONTINUANCE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY.
ALSO, IT -- AS WE DID LAST YEAR AND YOU WILL SEE THROUGHOUT
THE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS UNAUDITED INFORMATION.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A $2 BILLION ORGANIZATION.
AND IT TAKES MONTHS AND MONTHS TO CLOSE THE BOOKS.
WE ARE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN THESE NUMBERS, BUT AS YOU KNOW BY
LAW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY CPS FIRM COME IN AND
REVIEW OUR BOOKS.
AND PROVIDE A REPORT TO US AND TO CITY COUNCIL AND THAT IS
HAPPENING AS WE SPEAK.
03:15:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ROBIN HOOD.
03:15:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MINUTE AND A HALF LATE, BUT OKAY.
AND I SEE THE AGENDA THERE.
WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN THE MOTION INTO SEPARATE COMPONENTS SO
WE ALL KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT IN SHARING THE DETAILED
INFORMATION TO YOU.
YOU SEE THE FIRST ITEM, COMPONENTS OF GENERAL FUND.
SPEAKING OF COMPONENTS.
A VERY BRIEF EDUCATIONAL SECTION WE ADDED FOR THE FIRST
TIME.
PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT AND INSIGHT INTO THE GENERAL
FUND.
AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE WAY THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES THE
GENERAL FUND IS -- IT IS A COMPLICATED BUDGET ANYWAY.
A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED FOR US.
NEXT, ON THE ADOPTED BUDGET VERSUS THE PRELIMINARY ACTUALS,
GENERAL FUND, AND COMMITMENTS.
THIS IS THE PORTION WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU MUCH EARLIER THAN
WE DID LAST YEAR.
I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WE GAVE YOU THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE
DETAIL AROUND MARCH.
STORMWATER AND ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
FUND BALANCE AND COMMITMENTS, GENERAL FUND VARIANCE BY
DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE EITHER AN E-MAIL AND OR A HANDOUT
AND GENERAL FUND LIST OF FINANCIAL RESOLUTIONS, AND THE GENERAL
FUND COMPONENTS.
I GOT "GENERAL FUND" IN QUOTES UP THERE BECAUSE IN THE
SPIRIT OF CONTINUING EDUCATION AND A GOOD REFRESH FOR
OURSELVES.
MOST LOCALITIES THAT YOU GO TO HAVE A GENERAL FUND.
WE HAVE FOUR.
IT IS OFTEN LOST THAT WE HAVE FOUR BECAUSE WE TALK OF THE
GENERAL FUND COLLECTIVELY.
AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS LEFT OVER FROM LAST YEAR AND WHAT
WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD INTO THE NEXT YEAR.
IT IS USEFUL CONTEXT TO NOTE THAT IT IS ACTUALLY FOUR FUNDS.
AND WE CALL IT ALL AND HAVE CALLED IT ALL FOR ABOUT THREE
DECADES THE GENERAL FUND.
03:17:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHOEVER HAS THAT, CAN YOU MUTE IT?
THAT WILL BE GREAT.
03:17:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
BETTER MAKE SURE IT IS NOT ME.
IT IS NOT.
I WOULD ADMIT TO YOU IF IT WAS, BUT IT IS NOT.
YOU SEE HIM HERE, FOUR FUNDS OR SUBFUNDS.
THE FIRST IS WHAT YOU TYPICALLY FIND IN A LOCALITY, THE
GENERAL FUND.
REVENUE AND EXPENSES FOR GENERAL OPERATING.
DID YOU FINDS OUT -- WAS THAT IT?
SECOND IS, TWO INSURANCE FUNDS.
CITY INHERITED THE FUNDS 30 YEARS AGO COMBINE GENERAL FUND
AND INSURANCE FUNDS.
WE ARE USED TO DOING IT.
PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER TO 99.9% OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT,
AGAIN, AS WE LOOK THROUGH -- AND I WILL SHARE YOU WITH THE
FINANCIAL STAPLES IN JUST A MOMENT.
AS WE LOOK THROUGH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND YOU ARE
TRYING TO COORDINATE THE INFORMATION WE ARE SHARING WITH
WHAT WE ARE PUBLISHING, THAT BECOMES IMPORTANT.
AND HERE IS THE REAL -- THE REAL COMPLICATION.
PUBLIC REVENUE TAX AND TRANSFERS TO OTHER FUNDS.
CITY OF TAMPA AND FOR DECADES, THIS HAS SIMPLY BEEN ANOTHER
GENERAL FUND.
THE REASON I SHOW IT, THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS TO
COMBINE WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND HAVE ONE GENERAL FUND
WHICH, FROM AN ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT, IS MUCH EASIER AND
PROBABLY A LAYPERSON'S STAT.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE GOING IN -- SO MUCH INFORMATION SHARED.
IT IS EASY TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT SAYS THIS IS THE GENERAL
FUND.
IT WOULD BE MISTAKEN BECAUSE IT IS ONLY A PORTION OF THE
GENERAL FUND.
AND IT IS PROBABLY WONKISH, BUT IT IS USEFUL TO KNOW THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF -- FOUR TO BE EXACT -- SPINS PLATES WHEN
IT COMES TO GENERAL FUN.
WE WANT TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC AWARE OF THIS.
SUPER SIMPLE.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
NOT HOW WE RUN IT.
GENERAL FUND, THE INSURANCE FUND, AND THE UTILITY TAX
SERVICES, OR U-TAX FUND.
MAY BE THE LAST TIME YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT IT, IF IT IS,
THAT IS TYPE.
BUT, AGAIN, IN THE EXPERT OF CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING OUR
PRESENTATION AND OUR COMMUNICATION, WE WANTED TO THROW THAT
HE IN THERE.
MOVING INTO THE FIRST ITEM ON MOTION, ADOPTED BUDGET VERSUS
PRELIMINARY AND YOU SEE THE ITEMIZATION HERE HOME RUN MAJOR
AND MINOR CATEGORIES, ETC.
JUST LIKE LAST YEAR, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU -- THE ENDING OF
BOOK.
SPOILER ALERT.
COMBINED GENERAL FUNDS.
PARDON ME.
THE ADOPTED BUDGET VERSUS ACTUALS AS YOU SEE TOTAL VARIANCE,
REVENUES, AND EXPENSES $10.7 MILLION.
WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO IT IN A GREAT DEAL MORE DETAIL, OF
COURSE, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL
STATEMENTS IS, OF COURSE, THERE ARE IS OUR -- OUR ANNUAL
FINAL COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.
I KNOW PROBABLY, TYPICALLY, CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ARE
MORE FAMILIAR WITH BUDGET, AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
PAST OPPOSED TO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH THE
BUDGET.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE STATE AND THE EXTERNAL AUDITORS SAID.
THIS BASICALLY SAID WE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WERE
GOING TO DO WITH OUR MONEY, AND YOU CAN SEE IT IS A RATHER
THICK DOCUMENT.
AND ALL OF INFORMATION I AM SHARING YOU WITH RIGHT NOW --
AND THE ACCOUNTING SECTION THAT DOES THIS, IS ABSOLUTELY
FANTASTIC.
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
ALL THE INFORMATION LEADS INTO ULTIMATELY WHAT THE FINANCIAL
STATEMENTS ARE GOING TO SAY.
AND IN SUMMARIZATION, IN REVENUES, YOU SEE A VARIANCE OF
JUST OVER $19.7 MILLION.
TO FAR RIGHT, 2.2%.
THAT IS TIGHT.
YOU HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE.
AND WE HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED -- NOT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS BY
ACCIDENT, BUT WE HAVE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO TIGHT TOLERANCES ON
OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES
CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNCIL.
THE MAYOR, THE DEPARTMENTS, MY SHOP ALL TAKES A VILLAGE FIRING
ON ALL EIGHT CYLINDERS TO GET A BUDGET THIS REFINED.
PARDON ME.
AND THIS IS ALSO -- LET'S ME NOT LEAVE EXPENSES BEHIND.
EVEN TIGHTER TOLERANCE.
$9 MILLION OR 1%.
YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE TALKING $900 MILLION.
THESE ARE BULLS-EYE.
BE A BULLS-
WHAT WE EXPECT FROM AN AAA GOVERNMENT.
FROM A SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY PERSPECTIVE.
WE HEARD THAT MORE AND MORE.
ALMOST CONSTANTLY SINCE THE PANDEMIC.
WHAT IS YOUR LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY PLAN.
AND HOW IT FLOWS THROUGH.
IN THIS CASE THE COMBINED GENERAL FUNDS, HOW ARE THEY DOING
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AT THE FUND LEVEL, MANY OF THE
OTHER PROBLEMS AREN'T GOING TO MATTER AS MUCH BECAUSE WILL
IMPACT THE ABILITY WHAT YOU CAN DO.
WHAT COUNCIL CAN DO.
WHAT THE MAYOR CAN DO.
WHAT I CAN DO AND WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS CAN DO.
WE MONITOR IT CONSTANTLY.
I KNOW COUNCIL MONITORS IT CONSTANTLY.
HERE IS -- YOU SEE IT PAYING OFF.
VERY, VERY TIGHT.
GENERAL FUND NEW TAX FINANCIALS.
BREAKING IT DOWN IN DETAILS.
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND.
VARIANCES HERE ARE A LITTLE WIDER, BUT THERE IS A VERY, VERY
GOOD REASON FOR THAT.
I WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT
YOU SEE IN REVENUES, VARIANCE, $41 MILLION.
OR 4.5%.
THAT IS UNUSUALLY LARGE.
AND THE REASON IT IS UNUSUALLY LARGE IS, AND YOU WILL SEE
THIS IN A COUPLE OF PLACES IN THE PRESENTATION, YOU HAVE AN
ARTIFICIAL INFLATION IN BOTH THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES OF
$30 MILLION, ALMOST $31 MILLION.
THOSE ARE THE GASB '96 ACTIONS, IF YOU RECALL OR NOT RECALL.
GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARD BOARD ACTIONS WE BROUGHT TO
YOU THROUGH THE YEAR WHERE THEY REQUIRE US TO RECLASSIFY
LONG-TERM LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS LIKE COMPUTER
SERVICE CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WHAT IT DOES IS ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE THE REVENUES AND
THE EXPENDITURES BY ALMOST $31 MILLION.
SO IF YOU EXCLUDE THAT, AND -- AND THAT IS REALLY GOING TO
TELL YOU HOW TIGHT WE GOT OUR REVENUES WERE LESS THAN ONE
AND A HALF PERCENT VARIED LAST YEAR.
INCREDIBLY TIGHT.
OUR EXPENDITURES WERE TIGHTER LESS THAN -- EXCUSE ME, JUST
OVER HALF 5%.
HALF 5%.
SO YOU WILL -- HALF A PERCENT.
REFINED PROJECTIONS MEETING THOSE ACTUALS.
AND THE INSURANCE FUNDS.
AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY ROLL INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON HERE.
YOU SEE THE ACTUAL VARIANCE ON THE BOTTOM ROW OF LITTLE OVER
$4 MILLION.
THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THAT ARE THE DUBOIS SETTLEMENTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, YOU HAVE ABOUT A MILLION, WHICH IS SIMPLY A
VARIATION IN PROJECTIONS.
SO A LITTLE MISLEADING IN TERMS OF THE VARIANCE, BECAUSE WE
HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT SETTLEMENT IN THERE, VERSUS THE
ADOPTED BUDGET.
OVER ON RIGHT, THE REVENUES -- THE ADOPTED BUDGET VERSUS THE
ACTUALS, AND THOSE VARIANCES ARE UNUSUALLY LARGE.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE INTERFUND TRANSFERS THAT ARE INFLATING THE
BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTING FOR THE
INSURANCE FUNDS.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS A LITTLE MORE THAN $4 MILLION, $3
MILLION WAS THE DUE FROM THE WASHINGTON SETTLEMENT.
YOU SEE WE HAVE MORE DUE --
HAVING TAKEN CARE HOPEFULLY THE OF 50,000-FOOT VIEW, WE GET
INTO THE PARTICULAR CATEGORIZATION OF OUR GENERAL FUND NEW
TAX REVENUES THAT YOU SEE TAXES HERE.
AND AT THE TOP OF TAXES, NO SURPRISE THERE, AD VALOREM
TAXES.
THOSE ARE THE PROPERTY TAXES.
AGAIN, VERY, VERY TIGHT.
A LITTLE OVER 1% VARIANCE.
BUT ALMOST $4 MILLION MORE THAN BUDGETED.
SO WE WILL TAKE IT.
A SHOP STICK AS MY DAD USED TO SAY, BUT VERY, VERY TIGHT.
NO OTHER VARIANCES I THINK TO SPEAK OF IN TERMS -- IN TERMS
OF DOLLARS AND CENTS.
OTHER GENERAL TAXES ARE WAY OFF BY 87,000.
THAT IS REALLY THE STORY HERE THE BOTTOM LINE, TOTAL OF A
LITTLE OVER 1.5% VARIANCE.
SO VERY, VERY TIGHT.
ACTUALS VERSUS ADOPTED BUDGET.
AND INTO LICENSES AND PERMITS.
AGAIN, SOME LARGE VARIANCES FROM A PERCENTAGE PERSPECTIVE.
BUT VERY, VERY SLIGHT FROM A DOLLAR AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE
WITH ONE EXCEPTION WHICH YOU PROBABLY ALREADY LANDED ON,
FRANCHISE FEES.
WE NEED TO REVIEW WHY WE WERE SO OFF IN TERMS OF OUR
PROJECTIONS FOR FRANCHISE FEES VERSUS WHAT ACTUALLY CAME IN.
OVER $6 MILLION SHORT.
WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT.
AND THAT IS THE SURCHARGE FOR ELECTRICITY, FUEL, THINGS LIKE
THAT.
BECAUSE WE -- YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO KNOW TOO, IF THERE IS
A RATIONALE OF HOW WE PROJECT IN REVENUE, WE CERTAINLY
WANT TO CORRECT IT.
IF THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT OCCUR AFTER THE ADOPTION OF
THE BUDGET, WE WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT ALSO.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL.
PRETTY CLOSE OVERALL, BUT A BIT MORE VARIATION AMONG THE
LINES.
AND FROM A DOLLAR AND CENTS PERSPECTIVE, THE PRIMARY
ABERRATION WILL BE THE STATE REVENUE YOU SEE THERE, THE
STATE SHARE -- THE REVENUE SHARING AND THE STATE REVENUE.
THE STATE REVENUE IS SIMPLY A PASS-THROUGH FOR OUR FIRE AND
POLICE PENSION FUND.
SO WE TAKE IT IN, AND WE SEND IT ON OUT.
WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, AND THEY DID STATE REVENUE
SHARING.
WE SEE A DECREASE IN TAXABLE SALES ACROSS THE REGION.
WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE, AND I THINK WE CAN -- WE CAN FURTHER
DRILL DOWN AND EXPLORE THAT.
AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO PRIMARILY ATTRIBUTE IT TO -- YOU
KNOW, TO THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE LOCALITIES.
THE STATE COLLECTS IT AND DISTRIBUTES IT OUT.
I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TAKE IN, BUT, OF
COURSE, ANY TIME AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, WE LOVE NOTHING
BETTER THAN TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WE REALLY DO.
HAPPY TO GO INTO DETAIL EVEN THOUGH THIS IS PRETTY DETAILED
RIGHT NOW.
CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
TOTAL BOTTOM LINE.
NO MORE THAN 3%.
AGAIN, VERY, VERY CLOSE.
YOU SEE THE BIGGEST NEEDLE IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.
AND THAT -- THAT IS ALMOST ALL EMS FEES.
ABOUT $1.3 MILLION DUE TO, YOU RECALL, REDUCING THE FEEDBACK
BE IN 2023.
INCREASED TRIPS, AND AGAIN, HOORAY, IT IS INDEXED.
IT KEEPS PACE WITH THE EXPENSES IN THE CITY, IN FLORIDA, AND
THE WIDER WORLD.
SOME $1.9 MILLION TOTAL IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE THERE.
JUDGMENTS, FINES AND FORFEITS GOT TOMORROW LINE.
PRIMARILY THE RED LIGHTS CAMERAS.
PEOPLE LOVE RUNNING RED LIGHTS.
AND WE CONTINUE TO GAIN.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS YEARS.
WE CONTINUE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FUNDING IN THE RED
LIGHTS THAN WE ANTICIPATE EVERY YEAR.
FINALLY, THE BELOVED "OTHER" CATEGORY.
AND THIS IS REALLY INTEREST -- I WILL ADDRESS INTEREST
FIRST.
WE HAVE -- I THINK YOU HAVE HEARD ME MENTION THIS LAST YEAR.
WE CONTINUE TO SCRUTINIZE OUR INVESTMENTS.
NOT SCRUTINIZING MORE AGGRESSIVELY BUT TAKING ADVANTAGE, THE
DIFFERENT INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
INVEST IN AND WHEN WE INVEST.
AND YOU ARE SEEING THAT PAYOFF HERE.
ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT -- EXCUSE ME.
IN THAT OTHER EARNINGS CATEGORY, ABOUT $6.5 MILLION OF A
SETTLEMENT IS ASSOCIATED, AND I AM SURE YOU READS ABOUT IT WITH
THE FOREVER CHEMICALS.
I THINK IT WAS A CLASS ACTION AND A SETTLEMENT FROM A NUMBER
OF CHEMICAL COMPANIES ASSOCIATED WITH FOREVER CHEMICALS TO
LOCALITIES.
AND $6.5 MILLION MAKE UP THAT ALMOST $13.4 MILLION IN THAT
VARIANCE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU SEE THE GASB ADJUSTMENTS.
ALMOST 30.8, ALMOST $31 MILLION I WAS REFERENCING BEFORE.
WHERE IT REARS ITS HEAD IN REVENUES.
THE EXPENDITURE SIDE.
FROM AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE, IT IS SIMPLY AN INFLATION OF
REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES THAT, AGAIN, WE WERE REQUIRE TO DO
BY GASB.
AND THEN NOT ONLY US BUT LOCALITIES NATIONWIDE.
AND THE SUMMATION OF THE REVENUES THAT YOU SAW EARLIER
BROKEN OUT BY ITSELF.
AGAIN 5.5 VARIANCE WITH AN EXTRA $41 MILLION.
BUT AGAIN, $31 MILLION OF THAT IS THE GASB.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT $10 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN
GENERAL FUND COMPARED TO WHAT WE ADOPTED.
MOVING INTO OUR EXPENDITURE CATEGORY.
WE START WITH PERSONNEL.
STILL VERY, VERY CLOSE FROM A BOTTOM-LINE PERSPECTIVE.
LESS THAN 1% AT TOTAL.
COUNCIL MAY RECALL LAST YEAR THAT FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, WE
ARE REQUIRED TO BUDGET IN ONE CATEGORY AND SPEND FROM
ANOTHER.
SO YOU SEE SOME LARGE VARIANCES BETWEEN THE SALARIES AND
WAGES AND THE BENEFITS.
IN TOTAL, WHEN YOU ADD THOSE TOGETHER, IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO
THE BOTTOM LINE TOTAL, LITTLE OVER $4.5 MILLION VARIANCE.
AGAIN $507,000 BUDGETED, $503,000 ACTUALS, WE SPENT -- NOT
INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT LESS, A LITTLE OVER -- ALMOST 4.7
MILLION DOLLARS THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT IS DONE.
I DON'T THINK IT PROVIDES A CLEAR PICTURE, BUT THAT'S HOW WE
ARE COMPELLED TO BUDGET THESE BUDGET APPLICATION IN
SALARIES.
WE PAY THEM IN BENEFIT.
THINGS LIKE TERMINAL LEAD.
STUFF LIKE THAT.
A LONG WAY TO SAY THE IMPORTANT NUMBERS ARE THE ONES WITH HE
SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
A VERY TIGHT PERSONNEL BUDGET.
OPERATING.
LITTLE BIT -- LITTLE BIT WIDER BUT NOT TOO BAD.
AGAIN, I WOULD -- I WOULD SAY THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO
DISCOUNT A LITTLE BIT OF LUCK, BUT I WOULD SAY ALMOST $8
MILLION LESS IN EXPENSES THAN WHAT WAS BUDGET IS A SIGN OF
INCREASING SCRUTINY OF OUR EXPENSES, WHETHER IT IS MY
SOMEBODY WHO, COUNCIL, THE MAYOR OR THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO $8 MILLION LESS.
LESS THAN 7% VARIANCE.
WE WILL TAKE IT.
AND -- AND, AGAIN, THE STORY ON THIS SLIDE IS THE -- IS THE
30 ODD MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT COMPUTER HARDWARE/SOFTWARE,
AND THAT THAT $30.8 MILLION REARING ITS HEAD.
I WANT TO TALK OF CONSISTENCY NOT IN THE STORY WE ARE
TELLING BUT FROM WHAT WE ARE TELLING FROM A REVENUE
PERSPECTIVE.
OUR DEBT IN THE GENERAL FUND, NOT A GREAT DEAL GOING ON
HERE.
A VERY -- YOU KNOW, LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLAR
VARIANCE.
A LITTLE MORE THAN IS ANTICIPATED, AND THAT IS SIMPLY A PROJECTION.
LITTLE UNDER 7%.
GRANTS.
I THINK YOU GOT THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW THAT AID TO GOVERNMENTAL OR THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
THAT IS HOW WE CLASSIFIED FROM A CHARTER ACCOUNTS
PERSPECTIVE AID TO GOVERNMENTAL.
WE CALL IT TRANSFER TO THE CRA, AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE
SEEING WITH $54 MILLION, RIGHT ON TARGET.
TO OTHER -- AGAIN, PRETTY GOOD VARIATION THERE.
LITTLE BIT -- A MILLION MORE -- OH, THAT WAS -- PART OF THAT
WAS THE ROUTE 1, THREE QUARTERS.
PART OF IT WAS A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL SOCIAL ACTION AND
ARTS FUNDING.
AND, AGAIN -- I AM SORRY, HAD I NOT ADVANCED THAT?
I APOLOGIZE.
THERE I AM.
AGAIN, STATE CHARTER ACCOUNTS, AN "OTHER" CATEGORY IN
REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE.
BUT HERE WE BREAK THAT DOWN INTO MORE DETAILS.
AND I WOULD POINT OUT IS THE BUDGET RESERVES SUMMARY GROUP.
SEE THE ABERRATION.
INTERNAL CONTROL.
WE DON'T EXPENSE FROM IT, AND YOU SEE THE RESERVE
APPROPRIATION, BUT WE DON'T EXPEND MUCH OF IT AND A VERY
LITTLE EXPENSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED,
AND, AGAIN, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THAT WHEN YOU USE A BUDGET
RESERVE SUMMARY GROUP.
AND I CAN GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT LATER, IF YOU WOULD
LIKE.
BRINGING US HOME TO THE EXPENDITURE FIGURE THAT YOU SAW
EARLIER.
AND, AGAIN, 3.5%ISH VARIANCE OVER ON FAR RIGHT WHICH REALLY
IF YOU TAKE OUT THE GASB, THE $30 ODD MILLION DOLLARS COMES
DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER HALF 5%.
AND VERY, VERY CLOSE EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO WHAT WE
BUDGETED.
AND RETURNING TO OUR 50,000-FOOT VIEW.
IT IS WHAT WE STARTED WITH.
YOU SEE HOW IT SHAKES OUT THERE.
A $10 MILLION VARIANCE OVERALL IN TERMS OF WHAT DIFFERED IN
REVENUES AND EXPENSES.
03:38:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
WE ARE GOING TO STOP HERE FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE THIS IS THE
-- THIS IS A MOTION A.
AND THEN GO INTO B AND C.
I WILL STOP JUST TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
03:38:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, I KNOW IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
03:38:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:38:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 7 -- OR 7 AND MAYBE
8?
03:38:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
CERTAINLY.
GIVE ME A MOMENT, IF YOU WOULD, IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION
BACK UP.
THERE WE ARE.
03:39:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
MY QUESTION IS, THERE'S THE BUDGET AND ACTUAL.
SO ON THE -- YOU TALK -- YOU TALKED ABOUT REALLY REVENUES,
BUT ON THE EXPENSES, $9 MILLION MORE THAN BUDGETED.
AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PLEASE.
$26 MILLION MORE THAN BUDGET ON THE EXPENSES.
MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE GET THE -- THE CHANGE ACCOUNTS FORM,
IT USUALLY SAYS FLOWING THIS ACCOUNT TO THAT ACCOUNT.
IS IT -- IS IT DISCLOSED IN THERE THAT -- MAYBE MY
COLLEAGUES ASKING WEIGH IN TOO, THAT THIS IS -- THIS IS
COMING OUT OF A BUDGET INCREASE.
IF YOU JUST SAY WE ARE MOVING MONEY FROM THIS ACCOUNT TO
THIS ACCOUNT, WE ARE JUST MOVING STUFF AROUND, BUT IT SEEMS
TO ME THAT THE $26 MILLION DECISION ON THE PRIOR PAGE.
THE $9 MILLION DECISION, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD COME BACK
TO COUNCIL IF WE HAD $35 MILLION EXTRA THAT WE WOULD HAVE --
WHAT THIS SHOWS THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $15 MILLION EXTRA.
AND REALLY WE HAVE $41 MILLION.
AND OUT OF THAT WE SPENT 26.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE CITY COUNCIL AND
THE PUBLIC SAW THAT $26 MILLION WAS COMING OUT YOU HAVE
UNEXPECTED NEW REVENUES?
03:40:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT WOULD IN A NORMAL YEAR.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR -- I APOLOGIZE IT IS NOT AS CLEAR AS
IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEE $26 MILLION MORE IN
EXPENDITURES, BECAUSE OF THAT $30 MILLION IN GASB, IT WAS $5
MILLION EXPENDITURE REDUCTION.
SO IT IS A LITTLE MISLEADING BUT WHAT WE ARE COMPELLED TO
DO.
03:40:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON GASB, DON'T WE HAVE TO HOLD THAT FOR
FUTURE LIABILITIES?
OR --
03:40:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
OTHER POTENTIAL BENEFITS.
THOSE ARE DIFFERENT GASB RULINGS.
LAST COUNT, GASB HAD 120 RULINGS THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK
ABOUT AT ANOTHER TIME.
BUT IT IS SKEWING THE NUMBERS WHEN YOU PULL UP THE GENERAL
FUND BECAUSE OF THAT $30 MILLION --
03:41:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I GUESS MY QUESTION IF IT IS NOT -- MY
COLLEAGUES CAN TELL ME IF I AM WRONG AND MISSED IT.
MY QUESTION, IF THERE ARE EXPENSES THAT COME THAT WERE
WERE BUDGETED FOR ITS TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SOME FLAG THAT SAID THIS IS COMING OUT OF UNEXPECTED
REVENUES, HIGHER THAN EXPECTED REVENUES.
NOT JUST COMING FROM ANOTHER ACCOUNT.
AND IF WE -- I THINK PART OF THE PURPOSE THAT -- THAT
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SOMEBODY PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON WHERE
THE OVERAGE WILL BE.
RIGHT NOW, THE OVERAGE IS $15 MILLION ON THIS SHORT AND WOULD
HAVE BEEN 41.
WE MADE DECISION OF 26 WITHOUT THE PUBLIC KNOWING IT CAME
OUT OF AN OVERAGE.
03:42:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ANOTHER THING, IF I MAY, IF I CAN HAVE THAT
PRESENTATION BACK UP.
WHAT I MIGHT DO -- I DIDN'T MENTION IT TONIGHT, BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT TO GET AWAY FROM WHAT THE FINANCIAL STAPLES WILL
REFLECT.
I WANT TO PROVIDE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT TAKES OUT THAT GASB.
03:42:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
03:42:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I KNOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION CAN
COME AT YOU, AND WE DON'T WANT TO MIX APPLE AND ORANGES
AND TIE WHAT THE VIEWER WILL SEE IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
YOU SEE $10 MILLION MORE IN REVENUE ONCE YOU TAKE $30
MILLION OUT AND ABOUT $4 MILLION OR $5 MILLION LESS EXPENSES.
I WOULD LIKE DO THAT AND PROVIDE IT.
I DIDN'T INTRODUCE IT TONIGHT.
03:42:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY POINT IF THERE IS A NEW SOURCE OF REVENUE
OR HIGHER THAN EXPECTED REVENUE, THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE A
CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON HOW THAT IS EXPENSED.
AND IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING SPENDING SOME OF IT,
PUBLIC SHOULD NOTE THIS IS COMING OUT OF A NEW SOURCE OF
FUNDING BECAUSE ITS PUBLIC MAY HAVE NEW PRIORITIES.
AND STOP ME IF THIS IS GOING TO BE IN B, BUT NOTICE
OVERALL DEBT THAT YOU ALL PRESENT, A FEW MONTHS AGO DURING
THE BUDGET PROCESS, SEVERAL HUNDRED OR A BILLION DOLLARS IN
DEBT IN THE PENSION.
AND WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A WORKSHOP COMING
UP, BUT CONNECTED TO THAT, I GOT SOME CALLS THIS WEEK THAT
-- THAT THE PENSION CHECKS WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE
RETIREES WERE DUE -- THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO PENSIONERS
UPON THE FIRST.
FIRST OF A HOLIDAY, AND SOME PEOPLE GOT IT ON THE 5th AND
NOT ABLE TO CASH IT ON THE 6th, THE CITY IN THE PAST HAVE
KIND OF MADE MONEY ON THE FLOAT THERE.
IS THAT INTENTIONAL?
IS THE CITY TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON THOSE SIX DAYS OR FIVE
DAYS?
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS INCLUDED?
AND IF THERE IS A FLOAT, IS THAT MONEY POURED BACK INTO THE
PENSION.
HOW DOES IT WORK?
3:44:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NO, WE WOULDN'T INTENTIONALLY HOLD IN ORDER
TO MAKE MONEY OFF THE FUNDING.
I WILL CHECK INTO IT, THOUGH, AND SEE IF THERE WAS AN
ABERRATION.
DID ANYBODY SHARE WITH YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY THOUGHT WERE
AFFECTED OR WAS IT ACROSS THE ENTIRE --
3:44:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST GOT ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS.
3:44:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
OKAY.
I'LL LOOK INTO IT AND FIND THAT OUT.
3:44:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU COULD MAYBE SEND A MEMO OR JUST
E-MAIL AND LET US KNOW, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
3:44:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I HADN'T HEARD THAT.
3:44:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'LL ALL BE DRAWING ON IT ONE DAY.
3:44:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
OH, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH PAGE NUMBER 12.
3:44:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ALL RIGHT.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL, YES, MA'AM.

3:44:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE STATE REVENUE
SHARING IS THAT SALES TAX DROPPED.
3:44:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
EITHER SALES TAX DROPPED OR THE
DISTRIBUTION FROM THE STATE DROPPED.
AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS GO EXACTLY HAND IN HAND.
SOME OF IT WILL BE BASED ON TIMING OF COLLECTIONS AND TIMING
OF DISTRIBUTION, BUT, YES, IT'S PROBABLY NO SURPRISE TO
ANYBODY THAT I THINK IT WAS REFERENCED THIS EVENING THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTIES OUT THERE.
AND YOU ARE SEEING THAT PLAY OUT IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE,
NOT ONLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO SPEND, WHICH, OF COURSE,
CONTRIBUTES TO SALES TAX, BUT HOW PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE
GOING TO BE SPENDING IN THE FUTURE.
3:45:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
IT'S JUST VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE WE HEARD THAT WE HAD A
BANNER YEAR IN TOURISM AND GENERALLY THOSE TWO THINGS KIND
OF GO HAND IN HAND.
BUT THAT WAS FASCINATING.
3:45:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M SORRY.
I WAS REMISS IN NOT MENTIONING THAT THERE IS AN INTERPLAY
BETWEEN THE STATE SHARE OF REVENUES AND OUR GAS TAX FUND.
3:45:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY.
THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.
3:46:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I WAS REMISS NOT IN MENTIONING THAT
PARTICULAR COMPONENT.

YOU ALSO SAW THAT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
3:46:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO WORRIES.
PAGE 15.
3:46:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
3:46:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE USE OF FUND BALANCE.
WAS THAT SOME OF OUR CHANGES?
3:46:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
3:46:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIKE, WHAT EXACTLY MADE UP THAT USE OF FUND
BALANCE?
3:46:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I KNOW IT WAS SOME OF YOUR CHANGES, AND
I --
3:46:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THERE WERE NO ACTUALS.
3:46:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE DON'T -- WHEN WE BUDGET -- YOU CAN'T SPEND FROM
FUND BALANCE.
SO WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE SOMEPLACE
ELSE.
AND I'LL BE SPEAKING ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT IN
THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
GOOD EYE, YES.
3:46:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK MY LAST ONE FOR NOW, PAGE 22, KIND OF
HOLDING ONTO THAT.
BASICALLY, YOUR FOOTNOTE HERE TO OTHER FUNDS, SOME OF THESE
I RECOGNIZE FROM WHAT WE APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR, BUT NOT ALL

OF THEM ARE HERE, AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN -- FOR EXAMPLE, THE
STORMWATER SERVICES FEE CAME FROM THE OVERAGE OF 2024, WHAT
WE HAD THERE.
THE SIDEWALK MONEY, THE RESURFACING MONEY CAME FROM THERE.
BUT WE'RE MISSING THE MONEY -- THE REST OF THE MONEY FOR THE
HURRICANES, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY FIVE MILLION WHEN
TECHNICALLY WE USED 14 MILLION TO REPOPULATE?
3:48:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE DID.
YOU WON'T SEE THAT REFLECTED HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T
APPROPRIATE IT.
IT STAYS IN A COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THAT IN ORDER
TO SPEND IT.
THE HURRICANE FUNDING, I APPRECIATE YOUR MEMORY, THE
HURRICANE FUNDING WE DON'T APPROPRIATE.
WE SIMPLY HOLD IT IN ABEYANCE IN A COMMITTED FUND BALANCE.
3:48:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT WAS THIS FOR, THEN?
WHAT WAS HURRICANE MILTON --
3:48:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THOSE WERE EXPENDITURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
HURRICANE, THAT IF MEMORY SERVES, THAT WE FLOATED AS WE
AWAITED FEMA REIMBURSEMENT.
3:48:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THAT'S ADDITIONAL TO THE 7 THAT WE ALREADY
FLOATED.
3:48:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.

3:48:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THOSE FUNDS, WE
HAVEN'T RECEIVED.
3:48:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I THINK WE'VE STILL GOT ABOUT HALF TO GO.
3:48:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
I THINK THAT'S COMING UP.
ISN'T THAT PART OF OUR PRESENTATION COMING FORWARD OR DO WE
HAVE ONE YET ABOUT HURRICANE FUNDING, WHAT WE'VE EXPENSED
VERSUS WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN BACK.
3:49:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DON'T RECALL IF WE DO OR NOT 37 WE CAN
PROVIDE ONE.
3:49:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
I WON'T MAKE A MOTION ON THAT TODAY.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S PROBABLY APPROPRIATE IN THE MIDTERM.
DON'T WE HAVE A MIDTERM COMING UP.
3:49:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE DO, YES.
3:49:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR WHERE WE ARE ON
THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TIED UP RIGHT
NOW, I HAVE TO IMAGINE.
3:49:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS.
3:49:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT GOES PART TO OUR EARLIER CONVERSATION
TODAY ABOUT MONEY.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ASK ABOUT IS THE
TRANSPORTATION INTERSECTION SAFETY.
3:49:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
3:49:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE HOUSING FUND.

3:49:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M SORRY.
WHAT IS YOUR PARTICULAR QUESTION?
3:49:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I GUESS WHEN DID WE MOVE THIS MONEY?
3:49:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE TRANSPORTATION INTERSECTION SAFETY
FUNDING, THAT IS THE 25% THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR INTERSECTIONS
GOING BACK AT LEAST OVER A DECADE, THAT COUNCIL SAYS,
WHATEVER WE BRING IN FOR THOSE -- THAT CAMERA REVENUE, A
QUARTER OF IT GOES TO INTERSECTION SAFETY AND THAT'S WHAT
THAT IS.
3:50:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSING FUND?
3:50:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE HOUSING FUND, $2 MILLION HURRICANE
ASSISTANCE AND ABOUT HALF A MILLION FOR THE YBOR ART SPACE.
3:50:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY, YES.
CORRECT.
THAT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE
BUDGET, BUDGET, NOT THE EXTRA BUDGET.
GOT IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SECTION A?
THE OTHERS I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GO MORE TOGETHER.
THEY DON'T SEEM VERY LONG.
WE MAY NOT NEED TO STOP AND QUESTION.
I'LL STOP AFTER B AND SEE HOW WE FEEL.
MS. KOPESKY HAS A QUESTION AND/OR COMMENT.
3:50:50PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU COULD EXPAND ON THE
FOREVER CHEMICAL, WHICH IN THIS PRESENTATION ONLY DEALT WITH

ONE YEAR.
BUT I FELT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE AS WELL AS
ANY LIMITATIONS.
3:51:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT PAGE WAS THAT?
3:51:10PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
15.
3:51:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
3:51:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, YES.
I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO WRITE THAT DOWN BECAUSE I WROTE
DOWN SOMETHING ELSE.
YES, THE FOREVER CHEMICALS.
3:51:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT IS A MULTIYEAR OR ANTICIPATED TO BE A
MULTIYEAR SETTLEMENT.
WHAT YOU SEE IN FISCAL YEAR '25 REPRESENTS ABOUT A LITTLE
OVER $6 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL FUND.
A PREVIOUS PAYMENT OF A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION, IF I'M NOT
MISTAKEN, WAS ALLOCATED TO THE WATER FUND.
AND WE ALSO ANTICIPATE FUTURE PAYMENTS.
3:51:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT LINE ITEM WAS THAT?
3:51:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT'S WITHIN THE INTEREST AND OTHER
EARNINGS.
ABOUT HALF OF THAT VARIANCE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
SETTLEMENT.
3:52:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE 6 MILLION.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO GET OVERALL?
3:52:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU ARE A NINJA.

HERE IS THE EXERT.
3:52:17PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
IF I COULD JUST PREFACE MY COMMENTS WITH THIS IS ACTUALLY TO
CORRECT THE RECORD.
IT IS NOT A CLASS ACTION.
IT'S WHAT IS CALLED MULTI-DISTRICT LITIGATION.
IT IS STILL ACTIVE LITIGATION.
THE FUNDS THE CITY HAS RECEIVED SO FAR ARE FROM SETTLEMENTS
FROM TWO OF THE DEFENDANTS.
THE CLAIMS ARE STILL ACTIVE.
IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE MORE DETAILED BRIEFING, I WOULD
REQUEST THAT THEY MAKE A MOTION FOR A SHADE MEETING.
IDEALLY, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A DATE, MAY 7, BECAUSE OUR
OUTSIDE COUNSEL, WHO IS THE EXPERT AND BEEN LIVING ALL THIS,
HAS TO COME DOWN FROM NASHVILLE.
SO I CLEARED THAT DATE WITH HIM.
HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION, WE'VE
RECEIVED -- SO ONE OF THE PAYMENTS IS A ONE-TIME ONLY
SETTLEMENT WITH ONE OF THE TWO DEFENDANTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY
SETTLED WITH.
THE SECOND ONE IS ACTUALLY A SCHEDULED PAYMENT THROUGH 2033.
55% OF WHICH THE TOTAL SUM WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED.
SO THERE IS ABOUT 45% REMAINING.
IT'S A DECREASING SCHEDULE OVER TIME.
WE'RE ANTICIPATED TO GET ABOUT 16% OF THE TOTAL REMAINING.

ROUGHLY, PLEASE DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS, BUT TO GET A GENERAL
IDEA, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 800,000 THIS YEAR, AND
THEY WOULD BE ANNUAL PAYMENTS AND DECREASING AMOUNTS THROUGH
2033.
WE HAVE THE TWO REMAINING DEFENDANTS, ASSUMING THEY DECIDE
TO SETTLE WITH US, THEY ARE SMALLER ALSO, SO THOSE WOULD BE
ANTICIPATED TO BE SINGLE ONE-TIME PAYMENTS OF AN AMOUNT YET
TO BE DETERMINED IF INDEED THE SETTLEMENT GETS FINALIZED.
THERE ARE FURTHER CLAIMS THAT I WOULD RATHER NOT GO INTO
THAT WOULD BE LITIGATED FOR DIFFERENT DAMAGES OTHER THAN THE
WATER DAMAGES.
IS THAT SATISFACTORY.
3:54:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:54:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I HAD NO REALIZED YOU HAD COME IN.
3:54:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE JUST SNUCK IN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL GO ON TO PAGE 25, MOTION ITEM B.
3:54:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP,
PLEASE.
THE PRELIMINARY CHANGE IN THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE GENERAL
FUND AND ANY RESERVE FOR COMMITMENTS IDENTIFIED, ET CETERA,
THIS IS, AGAIN, WHAT WE'VE REALLY WORKED AT BRINGING YOU
EARLIER THAN LAST YEAR, ALLOWING THE MAYOR, ALLOWING
COUNCIL, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC MORE TIME TO REVIEW AND TALK
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL PURPOSES OF WHAT WE CARRY FORWARD.

AND YOU WILL RECOGNIZE A SIMILAR FORMAT AS LAST YEAR.
JUST AS WE DID LAST YEAR, WE'LL START FROM SCRATCH.
THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WE'LL BRING FORWARD FROM LAST
YEAR.
PURE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, ALMOST $213 MILLION.
AGAIN, THE CAVEAT, IT'S UNAUDITED BARRING ANY CHANGES BY THE
AUDITOR.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY BUT CAN'T GUARANTEE.
THIS WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
AGAIN, THAT THICK DOCUMENT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
HERE, YOU SEE, AS WE DID LAST YEAR, WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR WHAT
WE VIEW AS OUR OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY, MAINTAINING THE FUND
BALANCE, OF COURSE, AT 23% WILL TAKE UP ALMOST $160 MILLION
FROM THAT PURE, RAW FUND BALANCE.
YOU'VE SEEN MANY OF THESE BEFORE BECAUSE THEY ARE RECURRING
COMMITMENTS, WHETHER AN ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, COMMITTED
FUND BALANCE, RESTRICTED, ET CETERA.
HEALTH CARE IS GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE OVER -- OR A LITTLE
UNDER $13.5 MILLION.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HURRICANE FUNDING THAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE HISTORICAL NUMBER, 7 OR 8 MILLION.
CLAIMS, 5.5 MILLION.
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE UNION CONTRACTS.
COUNCIL WILL RECALL THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED PRIOR TO CLOSURE

WITH THE UNION.
IN FACT, WE MET THIS MORNING WITH THE IAFF AND ARE
CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, THE POLICE UNIONS AND ATU HAVE CLOSED.
WE THOUGHT IT PRUDENT TO PUT AN AMOUNT IN BECAUSE, AGAIN,
THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED PRIOR TO CLOSURE, AND THAT'S $4
MILLION.
THE MANY SETTLEMENTS THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER, YOU HAVE
THREE HOPPS SETTLEMENTS IN THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS.
YOU HAVE THE TAIL END OF THE DUBOISE SETTLEMENT.
A RELATIVE MINOR AMOUNT FOR PURCHASE ORDERS.
THESE ARE OBLIGATIONS WE MADE LAST YEAR THAT PROBABLY GOING
TO TOTAL CLOSE TO 3 MILLION, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS BECAUSE
WE'RE STILL CLOSING THOSE OUT.
AND THEN INVENTORY, OF COURSE, VERY, VERY MINOR,
NON-SPENDABLE.
IF I CAN GO BACK, YOU SEE ABOUT 212, 213 MILLION, WE'LL NEED
ABOUT 203 MILLION AND, OF COURSE, YOU CAN DO THAT -- EVEN I
CAN DO THAT KIND OF MATH IN MY HEAD.
ABOUT $10 MILLION IS WHAT WE HAVE LEFT OVER.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SOME CHALLENGES THAT HAVE
SURFACED, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH ARE THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC
CAMERAS REVENUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW A STATEMENT RECENTLY FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.

THE ACCOMPLISHMENT AND EFFECT OF THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC CAMERA
REVENUES NEEDS TO BE REDONE -- OR THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC CAMERAS
NEEDS TO BE REDONE.
WE ARE UNLIKELY TO RECEIVE MOST OF THAT ANTICIPATED REVENUE
THIS YEAR.
AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MOBILITY STRIVE TO GET THAT
PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO
START RECEIVING REVENUE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT COMPLETED, WE'RE NOT GOING
TO BE RECEIVING REVENUE ANY TIME SOON, AND THAT'S ADVERSELY
IMPACTING OUR REVENUE FORECAST.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT WILL STOP AT 4 MILLION, BUT RIGHT NOW,
WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR JUST WHAT THE ADVERSE IMPACT
WILL BE.
RELATIVELY MINOR TO THAT, OF COURSE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT
TPD NEEDS TO REPLACE THEIR SIDE ARMS.
THAT WILL BE ABOUT $1.8 MILLION.
SOME OF IT FUNDED FROM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX WHICH WE'LL
BRING TO COUNCIL.
STILL NEED CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS, THREE-QUARTERS OF A
MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SIDE ARM REPLACEMENTS.
PRESUMING WE STAY THAT COURSE, THERE IS A LITTLE OVER $5
MILLION REMAINS IN GENERAL FUND BALANCE FOR ALLOCATION.
3:59:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
WE'LL MOVE ON.

3:59:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL STATE, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, WE HAD MORE LAST
YEAR REMAINING FOR ALLOCATION.
I REALLY THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE -- I MAY BE WRONG -- I
REALLY THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS AS A TREND AS WE
CONTINUE TO REFINE OUR SPENDING AND OUR PROJECTIONS THROUGH
THE YEAR.
I'LL BRAG ON US.
I'LL BRAG ON EVERYBODY.
WE'VE GOTTEN VERY, VERY GOOD AT PROJECTIONS.
SO THE VARIANCES OVERALL ARE GOING TO BE LESS AND LESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
NO QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY, MA'AM.
4:00:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
4:00:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
MOTION C, STORMWATER AND ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
AGAIN, PRELIMINARY CHANGES IN FUND BALANCE AND RESERVES OR
COMMITMENTS.
STARTING WITH THE STORMWATER FUND BALANCE, EVEN STEVEN.
VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY FROM A YEAR-END FUND BALANCE
PERSPECTIVE.
OF COURSE, YOU'LL RECALL LAST YEAR AT THE AFOREMENTIONED
MIDYEAR MEETING WE'LL BRING YOU MORE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURES
OF ALL OF THESE ENTERPRISE AGENCY FUND BALANCES.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT THEIR TOTAL FUND BALANCE IS.
HERE YOU ARE SIMPLY SEEING THE CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
WHAT KIND OF RESERVE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE, ET CETERA, YOU
CAN SEE THAT IT WAS VERY, VERY VANILLA FROM A STORMWATER
FUND BALANCE PERSPECTIVE FROM FISCAL YEAR 24 TO FISCAL YEAR
25.
4:01:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING -- I'M SORRY, I'M
BREAKING MY OWN RULE.
GO ON.
4:01:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
PARKING FUND BALANCE, STILL DOING VERY
WELL.
AGAIN, THE REVENUES COMING IN BETTER AND WE'VE GOT FEE
INCREASES.
I THINK WE'RE MANAGING OUR REVENUES AND THE COLLECTION OF
THOSE REVENUES BETTER.
EXPENDITURES, A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
GOT THE DEBT SERVICE.
YOU GOT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AS FED AND HIS TEAM CONTINUE
IMPROVING THOSE GARAGES.
AND A REDUCTION IN FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT -- I'M SORRY, ABOUT
$6 MILLION.
SOME OF THAT, OF COURSE, WE'RE USING SOME PARKING FUNDING
FOR REPAVING.
THE SOLID WASTE FUND BALANCE.
YOU HAVE A BIT OF AN ABERRATION IN THE REVENUES.

NOT REALLY UNEXPECTED AS WE JUST RAISED THOSE REVENUES, SO
WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTABLISHED HISTORY OF COLLECTIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REVENUE INCREASE.
THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT IS AN ABERRATION ON THE POSITIVE SIDE.
INTERFUND TRANSFER ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU'LL RECALL, THE
PROJECT.
THE PROJECT OUT THERE, EXCUSE ME, AND THE EXPENSES.
THE BOTTOM LINE YOU SEE IS NOT COMPLETE UNPLANNED USE OF
FUND BALANCE FROM 56 MILLION TO 41 MILLION.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE UNPLANNED GENERATOR, $10 MILLION OUT AT
THE WASTE-TO-ENERGY FACILITY.
OVERALL, AND I THINK THE REVENUES BEAR THIS OUT, THE
INCREASE IN FEES IS SERVING THEM VERY, VERY WELL.
THAT'S EXTRA GOOD NEWS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW,
WE'RE BECOMING IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE TRYING TO
COALESCE SHORT-TERM DEBT INTO A LONG-TERM SOLID WASTE BOND.
WASTEWATER FUND BALANCE, REDUCE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF
THE GRAND PLAN AS WE FRONT LOAD FUND BALANCE IN BOTH THE
WASTEWATER AND WATER DEPARTMENT, PRIMARILY FOR THE PIPES
PROJECTS.
BIG NUMBERS.
BETTER REVENUES THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THAT'S NICE, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE MORE EXPENDITURES, TOO.
DEBT SERVICE AND THE CIP ARE PROGRAMMED IN THERE.
A SIMILAR, ALTHOUGH LESS VARIANT EXAMPLE IN THE WATER FUND

BALANCE, AGAIN, PLANNED USE AS PART OF THE 20-YEAR PIPES
PROJECT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
4:04:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS ON SECTION C?
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON PAGE 30, TO GO BACK TO THE
STORMWATER FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A TOPIC
THAT IS OF MAJOR INTEREST TO THIS COUNCIL.
PAGE 30, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD MORE IN 2025, BUT YET WE
DIDN'T -- WE STILL HAVE A FUND BALANCE.
4:04:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I'M SORRY.
THANK YOU, YES.
PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN.
THANK YOU.
4:04:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAD 4.3 LEFT AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND
JUST GIVEN WHAT WE EXPERIENCED AND HOW WE'RE REALLY TRYING
TO GET THROUGH, WE MOVED SOME MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND,
BUT YET WE STILL HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT IN HERE.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHY WE DIDN'T USE ANY OF THIS FUNDING?
4:05:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT'S PRIMARILY ASSOCIATED WITH SPENDING
TIME FRAMES.
I DON'T THINK THE DEPARTMENT IS HERE OR ONLINE.
WE CAN CIRCLE BACK.
AGAIN, IT'S HOW FAST CAN YOU GET THE FUNDING OUT THE DOOR.
4:05:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
UNDERSTOOD.

THAT WAS KIND OF MY ASSUMPTION.
IT SEEMED VERY ODD BECAUSE IT IS THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF
MONEY.
4:05:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU, MS. KOPESKY, I HADN'T MADE THE
GENERAL FUND TRANSFER CONNECTION.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
4:05:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:05:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THIS INCLUDING BOTH OF THE STORMWATER
FEES?
4:05:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THIS IS THE -- YES.
NOW, WHAT IT DOESN'T SHOW, AGAIN, IS THE TOTAL FUND BALANCE.
THIS IS JUST THE CHANGE IN THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH, AGAIN,
WE TYPICALLY DO THAT AT THE MEETING.
4:06:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU GO TO THE SOLID WASTE ONE, PLEASE?
YES, SIR.
SORRY I STEPPED OUT FOR A SECOND.
I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.
THE 41 MILLION, THAT IS A DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE, BUT IS
THAT -- DOES THAT FUND BALANCE, IS THAT FUND BALANCE THERE
BECAUSE OF ANTICIPATED EXPENSES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN
PLANNED AND YOU'LL BE USING THAT CASH ANYWAY OR IS THAT
MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON SOMETHING NEW?
4:06:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, WE TYPICALLY GET IN MORE DETAIL AT
THE -- THAT INCLUDES SPECIFIC RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, LIKE
THEY HAVE A 90 DAY OPERATING RESERVE REQUIREMENT.

THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THERE.
THERE IS SOME IN EXCESS OF THE 90 DAY RESERVE REQUIREMENT
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH A REPAIR AND RENOVATION
RESERVE.
4:06:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IS PUT -- YOU ARE
THE CFO, BUT LIKE FUND BALANCE, DASH, RESERVES, AND FUND
BALANCE OPERATING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST SO WE KNOW.
OTHERWISE, PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT, OKAY, LET'S USE.
4:07:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I HAD THAT EXACT THING IN MY NOTES.
SO THANK YOU.
4:07:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING IS, I WONDER, SO IF THAT WAS
THERE, DOES THE ADMINISTRATION -- AND YOU ARE GOING TO WIND
ALL THIS UP INTO A BIGGER DEBT ISSUANCE.
BUT IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A BIG FUND BALANCE THERE, WOULD THE
ADMINISTRATION THEN SPEND THAT MONEY ON THINGS WE'VE BEEN
HOLDING BACK ON OR REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT ASK FOR FROM
THE BOND MARKETS?
4:07:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT WILL DEPEND ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT MAY INDEED END UP BEING LESS DEBT.
ALSO DEPENDS HEAVILY ON WHAT THE DEPARTMENT PLANS IN THE
FUTURE.
INVESTMENT.
AGAIN, THAT REPAIR AND RENOVATION RESERVE THAT I TALKED
ABOUT EARLIER.

WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
IT IS AN OLDER FACILITY, SO AS YOU LOOK INTO THE FUTURE,
MUCH OF IT WILL DEPEND ON WHAT WE PLAN IN THAT FUTURE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MINI-PIPES PROGRAM.
IT'S NOT A DEFINITIVE ANSWER BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A
DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR YOU YET.
BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE A COMBINATION OF WHAT'S PLANNED FOR
THE FUTURE AND CAN WE ISSUE LESS DEBT.
4:08:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
4:08:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
4:08:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I THINK WE CAN GO ON TO SECTION D.
THANK YOU.
4:08:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE'LL BE SENDING THIS OUT.
IN FACT, MY SHOP MAY HAVE ALREADY SENT IT OUT VIA E-MAIL AND
WE'LL HAVE HARD COPIES AVAILABLE FOR YOU, TOO.
THIS IS THAT VERY DETAILED LINE ITEM INFORMATION BY
DEPARTMENT.
4:08:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
GREAT.
ONCE IT IS AVAILABLE TO US, IS IT ALSO GOING TO BE UPLOADED
TO OnBase?
4:08:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE'LL PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE -- WE'LL PUT IT
ON OnBase.
4:08:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AFTER THIS AS WELL, IF WE COULD PUT THIS

PRESENTATION IN OnBase UNDER ITEM 59, BUT THAT AS WELL
WOULD BE GREAT.
IF YOU HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
IT GIVES TWO PLACES FOR THE PUBLIC TO FIND IT.
4:09:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
I APPRECIATE IT.
4:09:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:09:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
ALMOST FINISHED.
4:09:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE LAST SECTION.
SECTION E.
THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN THEY WANT TO MOVE MONEY.
THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN MOVED SINCE SEPTEMBER 21st -- OR
SEPTEMBER 1st, RATHER.
4:09:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU SEE THE ITEMS HERE AS CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK STATED.
THIS IS FROM SEPTEMBER 4th THROUGH NOVEMBER 20.
AGAIN, WE CAN -- WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER THE END OF THE
FISCAL YEAR TO ADJUST THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR ACCORDING TO
FLORIDA STATUTES, AND YOU SEE THAT HERE.
THE LARGEST COMPONENTS -- AGAIN, I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A
BROKEN RECORD -- ARE THE GASB -- WELL, THE PARTICULAR GASB
96 ITEM ON NOVEMBER 6 OF A LITTLE OVER 30 MILLION.
WE HAVE AN EARLY BIRD THERE ON SEPTEMBER 18 OF A LITTLE LESS
THAN A MILLION.

I WOULD SUBMIT VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY OTHER THAN THAT GASB 96.
4:10:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS WHY I GENERALLY LIKE TO FOCUS A LOT
ON ANY FINANCIAL RESOLUTIONS THAT HAPPEN AFTER SEPTEMBER
1st BECAUSE THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS.
SO OUR OFFICE GENERALLY TRACKS THIS AS WELL.
4:10:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES.
4:10:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:10:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LINE THAT YOU NOW SAY IS GENERAL FUND
BALANCE OR, SORRY, FUND BALANCE, WOULD THAT AUTOMATICALLY
ROLL INTO THE GENERAL FUND THEN?
WOULD YOU ACCOUNT FOR IT IN THE GENERAL FUND SURPLUS?
ENTERPRISE FUNDS IT REMAINS IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
A WEEK OR TWO, WE'LL TALK ABOUT INTERDEPARTMENT
TRANSACTIONS.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME COULD BE FOR CASH FLOW, A LOAN OF GENERAL
FUND AND ENTERPRISE FUND WOULD PAY IT BACK AT SOME POINT.
4:11:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE AGREEMENTS LIKE THAT.
THIS MAY JUST BE ALTERNATIVE I CAN'T AND I DON'T WANT TO GO
DOWN A RABBIT HOLE.
IN THE PAST, ORGANIZATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, GENERAL FUND HAS
TAKEN A LOAN FROM AN ENTERPRISE FUND WATER DEPARTMENT.
WHERE I CAME FROM IN BREVARD COUNTY, WATER DEPARTMENT HAD A
LOT OF MONEY.
BECAUSE THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, HAS TO

BE OPERATED LIKE A BUSINESS AND IN MANY INSTANCES OWES DEBT,
THEY HAVE TO CHARGE INTEREST FOR THAT.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE LOANS BETWEEN FUNDS, TYPICALLY AN
INTEREST AND EXPENSE COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT OR IS THAT
NOT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING?
4:12:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
FROM.
GETS BACK TO MY QUESTION, IF A DEPARTMENT IS $5 MILLION OVER
IN REVENUES, NET REVENUES, THEN WOULD THE ADMINISTRATION
THEN COUNT THAT AS A SURPLUS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION
ON OR 5 MILLION MORE DOLLARS, WE CAN SPEND IT.
4:12:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AT THE END OF A FISCAL YEAR -- WELL, I
THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
4:12:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BUDGET 4 MILLION AND BROUGHT IN 10,
HYPOTHETICALLY, DO YOU LET THEM SPEND THE EXTRA 6 OR SAY,
HEY, THAT IS A BIG DECISION, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE
COUNCIL AND PUBLIC ON?
4:12:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND PUBLIC BECAUSE WE
HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE REVENUE.
WE HAVE TO APPROPRIATE IT AND THAT REQUIRES COUNCIL
APPROVAL.
I'M SORRY IF I WENT DOWN A RABBIT HOLE THERE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT INTERFUND LOANS.
4:13:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PAGE 37, YOU HAVE SIX ITEMS THERE THAT

TOTAL -- THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH.
ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO NOT MUCH?
$950,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO NUMBERS.
4:13:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MY COMPLIMENTS, SIR.
I THINK YOU DISCOVERED AN ERROR.
4:13:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE TOTALS DO NOT MATCH.
4:13:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MY APOLOGIES.
WE'LL CORRECT THAT.
THANK YOU.
4:13:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S 950,000 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
MORE LIKELY ON THE 34,697 DO NOT MATCH -- ON THE 34,000, IT
IS SHORT 950,000.
4:13:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YEAH, I THINK WE DOUBLE COUNTED ON THAT
GASB 96.
4:13:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:13:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
NO, THANK YOU.
4:14:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYTHING FURTHER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
4:14:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I KNOW IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I KNOW WE PROVIDED A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.
HOPEFULLY WE PROVIDED A GREAT DEAL OF USEFUL INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, PLEASE REACH OUT.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. KOPESKY.

4:14:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PER THE ADDENDUM, IT SAID ITEMS 45, 46,
48 TO BE HEARD AFTER ITEM 59.
THAT WAS A MOTION BY CHAIR PRO TEM HURTAK.
SO WE'LL WAIT FOR HER TO COME BACK.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY.
WE DON'T HAVE CHAIR PRO TEM.
4:14:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE STILL HAVE GUIDO.
4:14:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT?
4:15:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CHARLIE MENTIONED THE BUDGET THING.
I ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE ASK ME, IS CHARLIE STILL WITH IT?
I SAID YOU SHOULD NEVER, EVER UNDERESTIMATE CHARLIE.
IF HE PRETENDS LIKE HE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION, HE IS
DEFINITELY PAYING ATTENTION.
THAT SHOWS HOW SHARPEST.
4:15:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST LISTEN A LOT.
WHATEVER OLIVE OIL YOU'RE EATING, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS
SO I CAN BE LIKE THAT AT 83.
4:15:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BEANS AND RICE.
4:15:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS.
THE WEST TAMPA WAY.
TODAY IS ELVIS PRESLEY'S BIRTHDAY AS WELL AS DAVID BOWIE.
HE WAS BORN IN '35.
HE WOULD BE 92.
WE'RE WAITING.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO THE OTHER ITEMS.
4:16:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- WE WANT TO ADD
SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA.
4:16:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, WE'VE HAD A YOUNG
LADY WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SHE STARTED OFF MANY YEARS AGO.
SHE'S NOT THAT OF AGE, BUT SHE'S A VERY NICE LOOKING LADY,
BUT SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
AND SHE STARTED OFF IN ONE DEPARTMENT AND WORKED HER WAY UP
IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT AND BECAME CITY ATTORNEY.
AND NOW SHE'S RETIRING.
WE WISH TO GIVE HER A COMMENDATION RIGHT AFTER THIS COUNCIL
DURING THE MEETING SO SHE CAN BE ON FILM WHERE WE MAKE THE
PRESENTATION.
I WOULD LIKE ALL OF US TO MAKE IT TOGETHER DOWN AT THE
PODIUM SO IT CAN BE CERTIFIED FOR HER TO HAVE IN HER
MEMOIRS.
THAT'S ANDREA ZELMAN.
4:17:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE GOING TO ADD THIS TO LATER IN THE
AGENDA, MR. SHELBY?
4:17:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU WANT TO DO IT.
I SPOKE WITH MS. ZELMAN, I HAD TO TALK WITH HER ABOUT
SOMETHING ELSE UPSTAIRS.
SHE IS UPSTAIRS.
I DO KNOW THAT YOU DO HAVE TO GET TO OTHER ITEMS ON THE

AGENDA.
I DO KNOW THAT YOU ALSO HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT.
4:17:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHY DON'T WE DO IT AT 4:30.
4:17:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TIME CERTAIN AT 4:30.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR 4:30.
A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
4:17:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. ZELMAN, IF YOU ARE LISTENING --
4:17:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
4:30.
IF IT IS A PROBLEM, LET US KNOW.
4:17:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S IN THE EVENING.
4:17:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
16:30 IF YOU USE INTERNATIONAL TIME.
ITEM 45, THANK YOU FOR WAITING, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT WE
HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT.
ALSO, IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR T & I TO ADD CHAIR
CLENDENIN BACK SO I CAN SEE HIM, SO IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
I ASSUME, CHAIR, YOU WOULD HAVE INTERRUPTED US IF YOU HAD
ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE BUDGET.
4:18:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS LISTENING TO THE WHOLE THING.
I ACTUALLY TURNED MY CAMERA OFF SO YOU DIDN'T SEE ME BLOWING
MY NOISE.
4:18:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SO SORRY.

YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE NOT HAVING A GOOD DAY.
4:18:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, I'M NOT.
4:18:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 44.
THAT IS THE RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER, REALLOCATE AND
REAPPROPRIATE 1.1 MILLION FROM SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
PROJECTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYONE FROM STAFF HERE.
45.
44, THERE WAS NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
45, I BELIEVE WE DIVIDED -- THERE HE IS, MR. FOWLER.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T GO SUPER FAR.
HI, MR. FOWLER.
DIRECTOR FOWLER, WELCOME.
I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE MUTED.
4:19:36PM >>TED FOWLER:
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
4:19:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
4:19:39PM >>TED FOWLER:
PERFECT.
4:19:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
IF YOU COULD DO US A FAVOR AND BREAK DOWN THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE GADSDEN PARK IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND JBL
ATTENUATOR DOCK REPAIR PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
4:19:59PM >>TED FOWLER:
THE BULK OF THE ASK IS FOR OVER 500,000 TO GO
FOR GADSDEN PARK IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A PREFAB
BATHROOM THAT WOULD BE ADA ACCESSIBLE, NEED TO BE PUT ABOVE
THE FLOODPLAIN.

DIRECTLY TIED INTO EXISTING SEWER LINES.
SO THE IDEA IS TO GET PREFAB BATHROOM, AGAIN, ADA COMPLIANT.
WE WOULD RUN SIDEWALKS, PART OF THE COST, TO HARD SURFACES
SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE RESTROOM
WHICH IS BADLY NEEDED CLOSE TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE COMPLEX.
WE DO HAVE RESTROOMS NEAR THE SOFTBALL COMPLEX, BUT THEY ARE
A LONG WAY AWAY DURING LITTLE LEAGUE SEASON AND TO BE ABLE
TO ADD THIS AMENITY WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE
EXPERIENCE FOR THE PARK-GOERS.
THAT'S ABOUT $400,000 TOTAL.
THE REST OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE 110, 120 THOUSAND DOLLAR
BALANCE WOULD GO TOWARDS AN IN DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD DO THE
WORK OURSELVES AT THE BEHEST OF THE CIVIL ENGINEER, GIVE US
THE PLANS, WOULD BE TO ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING AT THE
ENTRANCE OF THE PARK AND AROUND THE CURB OF THE LITTLE
LEAGUE FIELD.
THAT WOULD BE THE SCOPE OF THE WORK DONE AT GADSDEN.
4:21:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THAT?
4:21:19PM >>TED FOWLER:
I BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT AROUND $600,000.
THAT'S WHAT WE FORECAST IT WOULD BE.
4:21:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GADSDEN IS 600,000.
SO THEN THE DOCK REPAIR IS 500,000?
4:21:33PM >>TED FOWLER:
NO, THE DOCK REPAIR, I BELIEVE IT IS AROUND
280.
4:21:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A BIG GAP THERE.

4:21:43PM >>TED FOWLER:
-- IN THERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO AS MUCH
ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALK AS WE CAN AT GADSDEN.
WE GOT A COST ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, IN THE INTERESTS OF
COSTS RISING AS MUCH AS THEY DO, WE WOULD USE THE BULK OF
THAT AT GADSDEN, $208,000 COST TO REPLACE THE ATTENUATOR
DOCK AT JBL.
4:22:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M CONFUSED.
WE HAVE $1.1 MILLION.
HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO JBL AND HOW MUCH OF THAT IS
GOING TO GADSDEN?
WE ONLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
4:22:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE LEFTOVER IS THE CUSHION.
4:22:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT HAS TO BE A CUSHION FOR ONE OR THE OTHER.
4:22:28PM >>TED FOWLER:
THE CUSHION IS FOR ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS
FOR GADSDEN.
4:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU'RE SAYING $280,000 FOR THE DOCK, PERIOD.
4:22:40PM >>TED FOWLER:
THAT IS THE PRICE WE WERE GIVEN.
4:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ASKED YOU EARLIER IN A SEPARATE MEETING IF
YOU WERE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF MOVING THE DOCK
SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME THING HAPPEN AGAIN
FOR THE BOAT RUNNING INTO IT.
WERE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT OR ARE YOU STILL WORKING ON THAT?
4:23:01PM >>TED FOWLER:
I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS BY MOVING
THE DOCK, THAT WOULD UP THE LABOR COST AND ALSO IT COULD

MAKE ACCESS TO THE PARK ITSELF GOING UP A STEEPER GRADE
BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND THE RIVER CENTER.
SO I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT.
4:23:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANYONE?
4:23:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REMEMBER BEING AT THAT PARK.
I TOURED IT RECENTLY WITH MS. BENNETT ABOUT THREE OR FOUR
WEEKS AGO.
THE PARK IS BEAUTIFUL.
IF NEEDS A LITTLE UPKEEP LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HOWEVER, THERE'S ROOM IN THERE FOR ABOUT 80 TO 100 CLASS ONE
TREES TO BE PUT IN BECAUSE IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S OPEN.
I BELIEVE THERE IS ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT.
I DID RUN THAT THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION AND THEY ARE
LOOKING AT IT.
4:23:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
I WILL SAY I CANNOT SUPPORT THE DOCK REPAIR UNTIL WE KNOW
THAT IT IS THE BEST PLACE FOR IT.
ALSO, IT IS NOT A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
JULIAN B. LANE.
I SIMPLY CAN'T -- PERSONALLY, I CAN'T ALLOCATE THE MONEY
FROM SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS TO DEAL WITH A MAJOR PARK.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHERS FEEL.

4:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:24:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES.
GOT TO BE 70, 80 ACRES.
4:24:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT
GOING TO SUPPORT THE DOCK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER REPAIRS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN OUR
PARKS DEPARTMENT.
4:24:46PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST ACCEPT THE REPAIRS FOR
GADSDEN?
LIKE, COULD WE DO THAT?
4:24:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE RESOLUTION IS FOR $1.1 MILLION FROM THE
SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS PROJECT TO FUND THOSE TWO THINGS.
4:25:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR VOTE AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE
RESOLUTION.
SO EITHER THE RESOLUTION HAS TO BE SUBSTITUTED OR YOU COULD
VOTE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
YOU COULD ASK IF THERE IS A TIME CONSTRAINT ON THIS OR VOTE
TO DENY IT OR VOTE TO APPROVE IT.
4:25:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE CAN PROVIDE A REVISED RESOLUTION
CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MR. SHELBY SAID.
4:25:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAME, JUST FOR FINE.
4:25:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
APOLOGIZE.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THANK YOU.
4:25:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.

4:25:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO I MAKE A MOTION TO PROVIDE OR TO
INSTRUCT YOU TO PROVIDE US A REVISED RESOLUTION THAT REMOVES
THE DOCK REPAIRS?
4:25:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
4:25:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO THEN MAKE A MOTION TO
REVISE NCA 25-18998 TO REFLECT THE REMOVAL OF THE JBL
ATTENUATOR DOCK REPAIRS AND JUST LEAVE FUNDING FOR GADSDEN
PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
4:26:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DOES THAT NEED -- DOES THE MOTION NEED TO
INCLUDE WHEN THAT WILL BE PRESENTED BACK TO COUNCIL?
4:26:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JANUARY 22.
4:26:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL GIVE YOU A REASON.
SO WHEN WE APPROVE THE JBL PARK, I THINK IT WAS 35 OR $36
MILLION BACK IN 2016, 2017, BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS DONE BY
MOTHER'S DAY 2018.
IT WAS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PARK IN THE CITY AT THE TIME.
BUT THEN THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT OR ANOTHER RESOLUTION FOR
ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE OF OTHER UNEXPECTED
EXPENSES.
WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS PARK.
I LOVE THIS PARK.
I'M ALWAYS IN THIS PARK.
HOWEVER, NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR DOCK REPAIRS,
IS GADSDEN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD PARK?
NO, BUT IT HAS NOWHERE NEAR THE AMENITIES THAT JBL HAS.

JBL IS A ROLLS-ROYCE PARK.
IT IS A WONDERFUL PARK.
GADSDEN NEEDS THE IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S MY REASONING BEHIND IT.
NOT THAT I'M AGAINST THE DOCK REPAIRS BECAUSE I ROWED IN
HIGH SCHOOL.
I LOVE THE WATER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
ANYWAY, THAT IS MY REASONING BEHIND IT.
4:27:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM --
4:27:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL GIVE YOU MY REASONING FOR THAT, WHICH IS
YOU ARE RIGHT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS WITH A LOT OF NEEDS.
WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD -- WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BRIEFED
TODAY ON DISABILITY PARKS AND I WANTED TO QUANTIFY THE
AMOUNT DONE IN EACH PARK, SO FORTH, PURSUANT TO MY REQUEST.
SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION, I CAN'T SUPPORT.
4:27:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, DIRECTOR FOWLER.
4:27:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS ACTUALLY ALAN.
4:27:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO SORRY.
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
4:27:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF NOT APPROVING THE DOCK REPAIR?
WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES?
4:28:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. FOWLER.
4:28:07PM >>TED FOWLER:
IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

IT'S BEEN IN DISREPAIR FOR A WHILE.
OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IT'S NOT BEING USED AS IT SHOULD BE
USED, ALL THE AMENITIES BUT ALSO A GLARING SAFETY ISSUE.
4:28:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE A LEGAL LIABILITY INVOLVED OR IS
THE AREA CLOSED OFF?
4:28:30PM >>TED FOWLER:
THE AREA IS CLOSED OFF BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PULL
A BOAT UP AND UNLOAD PASSENGERS.
THE PILINGS ARE STILL IN THE WATER UNDER DISREPAIR.
I DON'T KNOW IF KARL IS LISTENING, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO CARL
BRODY IF HE WANTS TO POP IN AND SAY IF THERE IS A LEGAL
ISSUE.
4:28:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.
4:28:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS WOULD BE GERMANE TO THE MOTION.
THERE IS A LIABILITY ISSUE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT COUNCIL VOTING AGAINST SOMETHING THAT IF
STAFF IS DETERMINED THAT WE HAVE A NEED TO REPAIR SOMETHING.
REPAIR IS DIFFERENT THAN ENHANCEMENT.
4:29:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HATE TO SAY THIS, CHAIR CLENDENIN, BUT
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES IN OTHER PARKS THAT COULD BE
CONSIDERED SIMILAR.
ALL THEY DO IS PUT SOME TAPE AROUND IT.
I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.
4:29:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN OBVIOUSLY BRINGS UP SOME
POINTS.
MAYBE THIS COULD BE BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER TIME.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED PROJECT COULD BE
BROUGHT BACK LATER BY STAFF.
I COULD HEAR THINGS OUT FURTHER.
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
4:29:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
4:29:54PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IS THE DOCK INSURED?
LIKE, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE DOCK, A BOAT RUNS INTO IT,
IS THERE INSURANCE ON IT?
TO FIX IT?
4:30:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION -- I DON'T KNOW
WHETHER MR. BRODY IS HERE, ALSO A QUESTION FOR RISK
MANAGEMENT.
4:30:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, WOW, IT IS A DAY OF SPEAK THEIR NAME AND
THEY SHALL APPEAR.
4:30:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF IT?
IS THE CAUSE OF IT LIABLE?
DO THEY HAVE INSURANCE AS WELL?
4:30:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, A BOAT HIT IT.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED DIRECTOR FOWLER TO SEE IF THERE WAS
ANOTHER PLACE IN THE PARK WHERE IT MIGHT BE SAFER TO PUT A
BOAT DOCK.
THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION.
MR. BRODY IS HERE.
CHAIR CLENDENIN HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.
CHAIR.

4:30:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. BRODY, THANK YOU.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE LIABILITY ISSUE AND SAFETY LIABILITY
ISSUE, EXPOSURE TO THE CITY IF COUNCIL WERE TO TURN DOWN A
REPAIR KNOWING THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM.
4:31:03PM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY FROM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
OUR LIABILITY -- WE DON'T LIKE TO DISCUSS IT REALLY PUBLICLY
LIKE THIS.
OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU HAVE A KNOWN CONDITION THAT RAISES OUR
DUTY TO THE PUBLIC.
IF WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT AND WE CAN HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSION ON IT.
4:31:28PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MY QUESTION WAS, IS THE DOCK INSURED?
DO WE HAVE INSURANCE FOR THE DOCK IN THE EVENT THAT IT IS
HIT OR SOMETHING?
4:31:40PM >>CARL BRODY:
YES.
I MEAN, THE CITY IS SELF-INSURED.
WE HAVE COVERAGE IF THE DOCK IS DAMAGED OR IF ANYBODY IS
INJURED BECAUSE OF THE STATUS OF THE DOCK CURRENTLY.
4:31:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
COULD WE NOT FILE A CLAIM TO FIX IT?
4:32:09PM >>CARL BRODY:
ANY DAMAGE THAT WAS INCURRED, YES, WE CAN FILE
A CLAIM ON THAT DAMAGE THAT WE RECEIVED.
4:32:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IT COULD BE REPAIRED THROUGH THE INSURANCE
CLAIM?
4:32:26PM >>CARL BRODY:
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE NEED THE
FUNDING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT.

IF WE WAITED FOR THE INSURANCE CLAIM, THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER
PROCESS WE WOULD BE GOING THROUGH.
4:32:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:32:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, HOW DO
YOU DECIDE -- SINCE WE ARE SELF-INSURED, HOW DO YOU DECIDE
WHETHER TO PAY IT VERSUS FILE A CLAIM, BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING
OURSELVES OUT OF ONE BUCKET OR THE OTHER.
I ASSUME WE HAVE INSURANCE AT A HIGH LEVEL.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE DECISION, AT WHAT LEVEL OF AN ACCIDENT
WOULD YOU FILE A CLAIM AGAINST OUR OWN INSURANCE VERSUS
PAYING IT?
4:33:08PM >>CARL BRODY:
RIGHT.
WE FACTOR IN THE POTENTIAL COST, AND WE WORK THAT THROUGH
RISK MANAGEMENT TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF DETERMINATIONS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT WORKED ON JUST TO
DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST NEXT STEPS ARE.
4:33:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT I HAVE
ASKED DIRECTOR FOWLER TO SEE IF THERE IS A BETTER PLACE TO
PUT THIS DOCK SO THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE HIT IN THE FUTURE
BEFORE REPLACING IT.
CHAIR CLENDENIN, IF YOU WOULD HUMOR ME TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET
THE ANSWER.
I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT, CHAIR CLENDENIN HAS GIVEN ME A THUMBS
UP.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO BRING BACK THE

RESOLUTION FOR JUST THE GADSDEN PARK IMPROVEMENTS BUT NOT TO
SAY WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE JBL ATTENUATOR DOCK REPAIR AS WE
MOVE FORWARD.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM -- WOW, I SEE HOW PEOPLE GET TIRED
DOING THIS -- FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
I'M SORRY.
ROLL CALL.
4:34:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
4:34:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
4:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
4:34:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
4:34:43PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
4:34:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
4:34:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
4:34:48PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
4:34:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS FOR THE 22nd.
OKAY.
IT'S TIME.
WE'LL GO DOWN TOGETHER.
4:35:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL OF US WILL BE ON TV.
4:35:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANDREA, I'M SORRY.
BUT DON'T WANT TO GET HER SICK.

4:35:26PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
HI, CHAIR.
4:35:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S SHOW.
4:35:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING ANDREA
ZELMAN FOR A FEW YEARS.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY HOW MANY.
SHE WAS HERE WHEN SHE WAS A TEENAGER JUST ABOUT WORKING IN
THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SHE LEFT FOR A LITTLE BIT, HONED
HER SKILLS SOMEWHERE ELSE AND DID VERY WELL AND THEN SHE
DECIDED TO COME BACK WHEN WE NEEDED SOME HELP.
SHE IS MARRIED TO A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
IT WAS VERY NICE AND BEAUTIFUL.
YOUR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, BUT TIME FLIES.
4:36:20PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I WISH I WAS.
I'D HAVE A BETTER PENSION.
IT'S LESS THAN THAT, CHARLIE.
4:36:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT SAYS 30 YEARS HERE.
I'M SORRY TO EMBARRASS YOU ABOUT THAT.
I APOLOGIZE.
THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS HONORED TO RECOGNIZE ANDREA ZELMAN
FOR SOME YEARS, MORE THAN LESS THAN 30, DEDICATED SERVICE TO
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HAVING SERVED AS ASSISTANT ATTORNEY FROM 1996 TO 2002 AND
LATER RETURNED TO SERVE AS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, MARY JANE
CASTOR WOULD THEN APPOINT HER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON

SEPTEMBER 1st, 2022, WHERE SHE WOULD SERVE WITH
DISTINCTION UNTIL HER RETIREMENT.
THROUGH HER TENURE, ANDREA FAITHFULLY SERVED THE CITY AND
CITY COUNCIL AND CITIZENS WITH UNWAVERING DEDICATION AND
INTEGRITY.
HER LIFETIME COMMITMENT TO LEGAL PROFESSION AND THE CITY
THAT SHE HAS SERVED SO PROUDLY, SPANS THREE DECADES, BUT THE
IMPACT IS IMMEASURABLE.
WE WISH HER GOOD HEALTH AND HAPPINESS IN HER WELL-EARNED
FORTHCOMING RETIREMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, TO HER FAVORITE ARTIST, IT WAS THE END OF A
DECADE BUT THE START OF A NEW ERA.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
SIGNED BY ALL SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE WISH YOU AND
CLAY THE BEST IN YOUR FUTURE AND YOUR ENDEAVORS.
I KNOW YOU ARE A DIE-HARD GATOR FAN.
WE KNOW WHERE TO CALL TO GET TICKETS, FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL,
BASEBALL AND A PLACE TO STAY IN A ONE-BEDROOM HOUSE.
I'M ONLY JOKING WITH YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
4:38:06PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
THANK YOU, CHARLIE.
4:38:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOUR TURN.
4:38:16PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
THIS IS AWKWARD.

[ LAUGHTER ]
4:38:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID WE GET THE PHOTOS WE NEEDED?
4:38:36PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
WELL DONE.
THANK YOU.
I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF BECAUSE YOU'VE ALL HAD A LONG DAY AND I
KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COME TO.
4:38:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME?
4:38:45PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY FOR ONE DAY
AND A FEW MORE HOURS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY COUNCIL.
OBVIOUSLY, IT HAS BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME TO BE
THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IT'S BEEN THE EXPERIENCE OF A LIFETIME
TO SERVE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
I WANT TO THANK MY STAFF MOST OF ALL.
THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
I'M LEAVING YOU IN GOOD HANDS.
THEY ARE GREAT.
SCOTT STEADY IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
I FEEL REALLY GOOD THAT HE'S COMING AND WILL TAKE MY PLACE.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST BEEN THE HONOR OF A LIFETIME.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH ME ALL THESE YEARS.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME MOST OF THE TIME.
[ LAUGHTER ]

I THINK I ACTUALLY HAVE YOU ON TAPE SAYING I HAVE TO LISTEN
TO THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I'M REQUIRED TO DO THAT, WHICH WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
MOMENTS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
THANK YOU, OBVIOUSLY, TO ALL YOUR AIDES.
I HAVE A FEELING DOSSIE MAY HAVE HAD SOME INPUT ON THAT
TAYLOR SWIFT QUOTE, TOO.
BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
[ APPLAUSE ]
4:40:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
WE'RE GOING TO -- IT'S THE TIME PEOPLE SAY GOOD THINGS ABOUT
YOU.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:40:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT IS A FUN THING.
JUST TO GET UP, MARY BRYANT AND I HAD BROUGHT SOME BEAUTIFUL
PHOTOGRAPHS OF CITY HALL.
MY AIDE WILL PRESENT WITH YOU A PICTURE THAT MARY BRYANT AND
I WORKED ON MANY YEARS AGO AND THERE ARE A FEW LEFT.
THAT WAS THE LAST ONE, BY THE WAY.
THAT IS YOUR GIFT FROM OUR STAFF AND FROM THE CITY COUNCIL
TO YOU.
YOU CAN TAKE IT OUT OF THE PLASTIC.

IT WILL LOOK BETTER.
4:40:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN T AND I PUT THE WOLF VISION?
4:40:59PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
ELMO PLEASE, OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT NOW.
THE WOLF.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF CITY HALL.
4:41:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THEY WENT ON A RESTROOM BREAK.
4:41:37PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF CITY HALL.
4:41:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, THAT IS LOVELY.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MIRANDA?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
4:41:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
BEHIND YOU IS TRULY THE BEST LEGAL TEAM IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
YOU SHOW ME A LAW FIRM THAT HAS A TEAM LIKE THIS AND I WOULD
BE SURPRISED.
I WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
THEY ARE SECOND TO NONE.
YOU ARE JUST A GREAT PERSON, ESPECIALLY YOU AND YOUR
HUSBAND.
YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD FRIEND.
I'LL NEVER FORGET -- I DON'T KNOW -- TEN YEARS AGO, I WAS IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. AS PART OF THIS GROUP WITH THE JOINT
CENTER.

MET COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
BEFORE I WENT TO THE AIRPORT, FLEW OUT OF REAGAN TO COME TO
TAMPA, CALLED CONGRESS WOMAN CASTOR'S OFFICE, YOUR HUSBAND
ANSWERED.
I SAID I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF I CAN COME BY.
YEAH, COME IN.
DOOR WAS OPEN.
IS SHE IN THE RAYBURN BUILDING OR NO?
IT WAS THE RAYBURN BUILDING.
I WALKED IN, GO THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE COOLEST THING, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
WALKED THROUGH THE HALLS.
DOOR WAS OPEN, INVITED ME IN.
VERY, VERY NICE.
CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR WAS IN SESSION, WAS VOTING.
SHE WASN'T THERE.
SHE WAS DOING HER JOB.
BUT I THINK ABOUT THAT AS A VERY GOOD MEMORY.
GOING UP TO WASHINGTON, D.C.
ANYTIME I'VE NEEDED ADVICE, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOUR
HUSBAND WAS THERE, YOU WERE THERE.
YOU'RE JUST GOOD.
WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.
YOU STARTED HERE, YOU HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE
CITY, BUT TO END YOUR CAREER AT THE TOP, WHAT A BETTER HONOR

AND A CITY THAT WE ALL LOVE.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
ENJOY THIS RETIREMENT VERY, VERY MUCH.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE VERY FAR AWAY.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE AROUND.
WHO COULD REPLACE YOU?
SCOTT STEADY, WONDERFUL PERSON.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BIG, BIG SHOES TO FILL.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE VERY BLESSED AND VERY LUCKY TO
HAVE YOU.
YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
YOU END A CAREER ON A VERY HIGH NOTE AND YOU RIDE OFF INTO
THE RETIREMENT SUNSET, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GONE.
WE WILL SEE YOU.
I'M GRATEFUL TO CALL YOU A FRIEND, YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND,
CONGRATULATIONS.
THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
THIS IS A VERY SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION.
YOU DESERVE A LOT MORE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:44:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:44:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
A MONTH AGO I SAID SOME THINGS ABOUT YOU, BUT I'LL SAY SOME
OF IT AGAIN.

IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU.
YOU'RE SMART.
YOU'RE HONEST.
YOU'RE COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT WASN'T ALWAYS FUN HAVING WHAT I CALL INTELLECTUAL
ARGUMENTS OR DEBATES, BUT IT WAS FUN HAVING THOSE
DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU, BECAUSE I THINK WE BOTH -- FINALLY WE
WOULD SEE AROUND IT.
I LOVE TO WORK WITH REALLY SMART PEOPLE.
EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T AGREE ALL THE TIME, IT WAS FUN.
IT WAS FUN HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS AND GOING THROUGH IT.
YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, CLAY'S COMMITMENT,
TOGETHER, YOU ALL HAVE HAD SUCH AN IMPACT ON THIS COMMUNITY.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS OVER
THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE IMPOSSIBLE TO
ACCOMPLISH.
YOU AND I FIGURED OUT HOW TO BUILD A COLLABORATIVE BRIDGE
WITH ALL DIFFERENT FACTIONS.
I CAN'T EVEN TELL ALL THE STORIES PUBLICLY.
IT WAS AMAZING WORKING WITH YOU AND BEING ABLE TO GET A LOT
DONE FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'M SURE YOU ALL WILL STAY IN TOUCH.
I'M SURE YOU WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS THAT WILL HELP US ELEVATE THE
CITY, CALL US AND TELL US.
THANK YOU.
4:45:36PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
THE PHONE WORKS BOTH WAYS.
I WILL ANSWER WHEN YOU CALL.
I TOLD YOU BEFORE, IF YOU WANT TO BOUNCE ANYTHING OFF OF ME,
I'M HAPPY TO TALK.
ALL OF YOU.
4:45:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I AM A BIG FAN OF YOURS.
I THINK YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, I REMEMBER WHEN MAYOR CASTOR
CAME IN, SHE BROUGHT JUST SO MANY AMAZING ATTORNEYS HERE.
YOURSELF, CATE WELLS, REBECCA JOHNS.
SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, AMONG SO MANY OTHER AMAZING ATTORNEYS
WHO REALLY, OBVIOUSLY, GINA GRIMES.
HILL WARD HENDERSON.
YOU WERE SUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT.
YOU ARE AN AMAZING ATTORNEY, SO VERY SMART.
AMAZING ACCOMPLISHED PROFESSIONAL BUT ALSO LIKE A GOOD
PERSON.
VERY DECENT.
YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, BACKGROUND, ALL THESE
DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU HAVE INTEGRITY AND DECENCY.

THAT'S SO VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU ARE A WONDERFUL PERSON.
HUSBAND CLAY WHO IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO ME.
HE IS A GREAT GUY.
HE KNOW WHAT THE PENDERGRASS MACHINE IS -- INSIDE JOKE --
AND HE IS SUCH A FINE PERSON.
YOU ALL TOGETHER HAVE BEEN THERE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN SO
MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
PROFESSIONALLY, PERSONAL BASIS AND SO FORTH.
THE BIGGEST THING I CAN SAY, FOR YOUR PLANS AND GOING WHERE
YOU ALL WILL BE GOING.
IT'S SO GOOD FOR YOU TO HAVE A LIFETIME OF WORK.
DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND THEN GO AND BE HAPPY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
GOD BLESS YOU.
4:47:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
4:47:14PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CONGRATULATIONS.
WHILE I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE AS LONG AS MY OTHER COUNCIL
MEMBERS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT WE HAVE HAD.
I REMEMBER OUR FIRST MEETING AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAD AND
TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR STORY AND HOW YOU GOT STARTED.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT TIME.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
AND I DID CLAIM AN ORCHID.
4:47:38PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I OWE YOU AN ORCHID.

4:47:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IF IT IS STILL THERE, I WOULD LOVE TO BE HER
NEW HOME.
4:47:41PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
IT HAS YOUR NAME ON IT.
4:47:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
4:47:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD AFTERNOON, MY FRIEND.
OUR RELATIONSHIP GOES LONG BEFORE MY LIFE ON CITY COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I ADMIRE AND RESPECT YOU.
SOMETIMES I MAY SEEM SAD BUT I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.
I KNOW YOUR TRUE LOVE IS GAINESVILLE AND UNIVERSITY OF
FLORIDA AND YOU ARE GOING WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.
I'M GOING TO MISS YOU HERE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ADVICE AND COUNSEL, NOT JUST IN
CITY COUNCIL, BUT IN LIFE IN GENERAL THROUGH THE YEARS.
REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE CONTRIBUTED TO
MY LIFE.
YOU LEAVE BEHIND, AS EVERYBODY ECHOED, A GREAT STAFF.
I THINK I ECHOED THIS MANY TIMES FROM THE DAIS, HOW MUCH I
APPRECIATE OUR CITY STAFF AND ESPECIALLY OUR LEGAL STAFF,
CATE, SUSAN, MORRIS, EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY IS WONDERFUL.
CITY OF TAMPA IS WELL SERVED.
YOU JUDGE A LEADER BASED ON THE LEGACY THEY LEAVE BEHIND AND
YOU ARE LEAVING A GREAT LEGACY.
THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR ME, EVERYTHING FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU WITH A BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE
AS GATORS REBUILD THAT TEAM.
[ LAUGHTER ]
4:49:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOW.
LITTLE BIT OF SHADE THERE.
YES.
I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN SUCH A PLEASURE WORKING WITH
YOU.
WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER DURING THE CITY'S CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION.
SO I WAS THRILLED WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY AND FOUND THAT YOU
WERE HERE AND EVEN MORE THRILLED WHEN YOU BECAME CITY
ATTORNEY BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THAT RELATIONSHIP TO BUILD
UPON.
I THINK THAT IS SO IMPORTANT, THE INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIPS
AND BUILDING TRUST AND MOVING FORWARD.
I CANNOT SAY HOW EXCITED I AM FOR YOU ALL TO MOVE TO THE
PLACE I GREW UP AND FEEL IS SO SPECIAL TO ME.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEEL IT IS SO WONDERFUL AND SPECIAL AS
WELL.
EVERY TIME YOU GO TO PETITE UPPER CRUST, THINK OF ME WHEN
YOU HAVE A COOKIE BECAUSE THEY ARE MY FAVORITE THINGS IN THE
WORLD.

YEAH, I KNOW.
SO GOOD, THE CROISSANTS.
IT IS THE BEST FRENCH BAKERY EVER.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T HAVE A FRENCH BAKERY HERE THAT IS
REMOTELY CLOSE.
YEAH, THAT'S THE DREAM.
AGAIN, ENJOY YOUR TIME THERE.
I KNOW JUST MOVING AWAY AND DOING SOMETHING NEW KIND OF
COMES WITH A LOT OF FREEDOM AND A LOT OF RELAXATION.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE BACK BECAUSE AS WONDERFUL AS GAINESVILLE
IS, THE BIG CITY BECKONS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND JUST GO IN GOOD HEALTH.
WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE.
WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW FOR YOUR ACTUAL BIG PARTY, BUT WE
WOULD HAVE BEEN REMISS IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO IT
TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST OF LUCK.
4:50:33PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
THANK YOU ALL.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
4:50:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
DO YOU WANT A PHOTO WITH US?
4:50:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 46.

MR. FOWLER IS STILL HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SHORELINE
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WITHIN THE CIT.
REMEMBERING THAT WE CONTINUED THIS SO THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY
USE FUNDING FROM LEFTOVER BUDGET.
UH-OH.
AND WE LOST CHAIR CLENDENIN.
4:52:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M HERE.
IF I'M BLOWING MY NOSE --
4:52:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SORRY.
MR. FOWLER.
4:52:38PM >>TED FOWLER:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
4:52:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
4:52:45PM >>TED FOWLER:
SO THE ASK HERE IS TO USE THE $320,000 TO
RESTORE HALF OF THE BOARDWALK AT THE LOWRY PARK BOAT RAMP,
WHICH THE BOAT RAMP ALREADY HAD SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES.
THIS IS THE LESS EXPENSIVE PART, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
THIS MONEY AROUND SO WE CAN MAKE IT WHOLE AND MAKE THE
AMENITY RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY AGAIN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT
IS IN DISREPAIR.
4:53:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO USE THE
MONEY FROM THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR PROJECT?
NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE LEFT IN THE BUDGET, HOW DO
WE --
4:53:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE ALL

OF THEM.
WE JUST HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE US FOR 320,000.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THE SHORELINE, IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE
OF IT, THE WORSE IT GETS EVERY DAY.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT MOVING IT.
4:53:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, IT'S GOING TO
INCREASE THE COST.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS SPECIFICALLY ON A SHORELINE IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS AS IT IS TODAY.
4:54:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I'M SO SORRY.
WE HAVE TO DO A VOICE VOTE.
APOLOGIES.
ROLL CALL.
4:54:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
4:54:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
4:54:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
4:54:18PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
4:54:21PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
4:54:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
4:54:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

4:54:26PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:54:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
NEXT.
THANK YOU, MR. FOWLER.
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 48, MAKING A CHANGE IN THE BUDGET.
I BELIEVE MR. JONES IS HERE.
SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THE WATER DEPARTMENT WHOLE
FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND AS WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC TODAY.
DO YOU BY ANY CHANCE KNOW HOW MUCH WAS SPENT JUST ON TYPE
ONE AND TYPE TWO TREES?
4:55:06PM >> IT'S DIFFICULT.
I'VE BEEN BACK THERE IN THE BACK.
RORY JONES WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
THE ITEMIZED INVOICES DON'T NECESSARILY BREAK IT DOWN PER
TREE.
THERE ARE OTHER ASSOCIATED DIRT WORK, STUMP GRINDING, SOD
THAT'S NOT IN THE INDIVIDUAL TREE CHARGES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- JUST THE AVERAGE COST PER TREE BASED
ON 270 TREES, THE TOTAL BETWEEN TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO BASED
ON THE AVERAGE COST WOULD BE $206,216.
4:55:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
206,000.
WHAT IF WE JUST ROUNDED IT UP TO 210,000?
AND THEN PAID THE REST THROUGH THE MONEY WE HAVE LEFT.
SO HERE'S MY ARGUMENT.

THIS IS BEFORE MY TIME, BEFORE -- WHEN YOU RE-DID THE TREE
TRUST FUND TO BE FOCUSED ONLY ON TREES, AND THIS 334,000,
ABOUT 335,000 IS BEING USED ON THINGS OTHER THAN TREES.
THE TREE -- THE T-TAG LADIES HAVE SPOKEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN
ABOUT HOW THEY ONLY WANT THE TREE TRUST FUND TO PAY FOR TYPE
ONE AND TYPE TWO TREES.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE RIGHT.
MY CONCERN -- BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT
DID THE RIGHT THING.
FOR ME, IT IS NOT PAYING THEM BACK.
IT'S FIGURING OUT WHICH BUCKET TO GO FROM.
THE REASON I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M AFRAID ONCE WE OPEN THE
DOOR TO ALLOWING OTHER THINGS FROM THIS TREE TRUST FUND, THE
DOOR WILL BE OPENED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
BEFORE WE KNOW IT, IT WILL BE WIDE OPEN.
THAT IS MY FEAR AND THAT IS WHY I MOVED THIS.
THAT IS WHY I CANNOT APPROVE IT COMING A HUNDRED PERCENT
FROM THE TREE TRUST FUND.
BUT NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE THIS EXTRA MONEY FROM THE
BUDGET, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PAY FOR THE
REST OF IT WITH OUR EXTRA FUNDS FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 2025
BUDGET.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:57:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION
PROVIDED THEY ARE MADE WHOLE.

4:57:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, AGREED.
4:57:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAXPAYERS' MONEY, WATER DEPARTMENT WHO
SELLS THE WATER TO OUR CITIZENS WHO GETS IT BACK.
REALLY PAYING OURSELVES WITH OUR OWN MONEY.
4:57:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
4:57:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY DIDN'T GO OUT LOOKING FOR THE
CUSTOMER.
THE CUSTOMER CAME TO THEM LOOKING FOR A LOAN.
AND THEY WERE KIND OF ENOUGH TO DO IT.
ENTERPRISE FUND, LIKE I SAID, ONE OF ONLY FIVE IN THE WHOLE
COUNTRY, TRIPLE A BOND RATING.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE KEPT WHOLE.
NOT AGAINST YOU BUT HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET PAID.
4:57:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU SAID.
4:57:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
4:57:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU.
I AGREE WITH SENTIMENT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
AND ALSO, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVEN THINKING OF DOING THE
TREES.
WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE REOPENED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
BUT ALSO WHAT YOU ALL DID, I TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
TREES ALL THE TIME, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HEAR OUT IN
THE COMMUNITY.
YOU ALL SAW AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT SOME TREES AND DO IT IN
THE RIGHT WAY.

I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
4:58:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO ROUND THESE.
OH, I'M SO SORRY.
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
4:58:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M FINE WITH THIS COMPROMISE, BUT I DO
WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN BECAUSE WE HAVE
THE RULES.
I AGREE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR RULES FOR THE
TYPE OF TREES THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING OUT OF THE FUND SO THAT
EVERYTHING IS CLEAR.
AGAIN, RIGHT NOW PAYING OUT OF TRUST FUND FOR TYPE THREE
TREES FINE.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, AGAIN, I SUPPORT THAT.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO ONLY OUT OF THE
TRUST FUND.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR RULES IN THE FUTURE ARE VERY CLEAR
THIS IS WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE.
I'LL SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE FOR THIS TO PAY THE REMAINDER
OUT OF REMAINING FUNDS.
I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION AFTER THIS TO CHANGE TRUST FUND
MONEY TO REFLECT TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO.
4:59:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I INTEND TO MAKE THE MOTION.
4:59:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
STOP ME IF I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG ONE.
I TALKED TO RORY.
I TALKED TO WHIT REMER.

BOTH CONFIRMED TO ME, I THINK IT WAS WHIT'S IDEA TO DO THIS
AND THEN FROM A SUSTAINABILITY POINT OF VIEW.
RORY SAID YES.
WE HAVE AN ITEM COMING UP.
CAN'T FIND IT ON THE CALENDAR.
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, TO TALK ABOUT INTERNAL TRANSACTIONS.
I TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF ABOUT THIS, TOO.
I THINK WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN, THERE IS AN ACCOUNTING BEHIND
THE SCENES BUT I THINK SHOULD BE MORE EXPLICIT CONTRACTS OR
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS.
THAT'S COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IF WHIT HAD GONE TO RORY AND SAID,
HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO, WOULD YOU AGREE TO DO
THAT, AND THEN WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE TREE FUND WOULD
SAY YES, THEN LIKE A THREE-PARTY AGREEMENT AND WE WOULD
APPROVE IT AND EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
EVEN IF THE TREE FUNDS FUND OTHER THINGS, WE WOULD LIMIT IT
IN THAT AGREEMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION COMING UP I THINK IN A MONTH OR
TWO TALKING ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE TREE FUND.
THE COMMUNITY HAS RECOMMENDED MAYBE THAT THE NATURAL
RESOURCE COMMITTEE WHICH IS NOT FULLY POPULATED, WOULD BE
RECONSTITUTED OR FULLY CONSTITUTED AND THEN IT WOULD OVERSEE
THIS.
BUT I THINK IF WE HAVE IT MORE EXPLICIT AND HAVE A

DISCUSSION, APPROVE THESE EVEN INTERNAL AGREEMENTS IT WILL
HELP TO ALLEVIATE THESE PROBLEMS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL DID THIS WITH ALL THE RIGHT
INTENTIONS.
IT'S JUST THAT IF WE MAKE IT CLEANER AND LOOK AT IT ON THE
FRONT END, WON'T LOOK LIKE THIS.
5:01:10PM >> EXACTLY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
5:01:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE $210,000 FOR THE
COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TAMPA'S NEIGHBORHOODS
PROJECT FOR USE BY INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA TREE
TRUST FUND, SOUTH TAMPA TREE TRUST FUND AND CITYWIDE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS FUND, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:01:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MR. SHELBY.
5:01:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.
I WAS DISTRACTED.
FORGIVE ME.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEM 48 GENERALLY, CORRECT?
5:01:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
I'M DOING TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS TO TAKE MONEY FROM TWO
SEPARATE PLACES.

THEN I'M MAKING A MOTION ABOUT USING TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO
TREES.
I JUST MADE THE FIRST MOTION.
5:02:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS DIRECTING STAFF TO
COME BACK WITH A RESOLUTION WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WOULD
THAT BE THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO?
5:02:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:02:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHEN WOULD THAT BE COMING BACK, AT THE NEXT
REGULAR MEETING?
5:02:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
IT CAN BE ON CONSENT.
5:02:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE THING IS, WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT, WHEN YOU
MAKE THE MOTION, AND THIS IS FOR COUNCIL'S GENERAL
UNDERSTANDING, WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH A RESOLUTION TO
EITHER VOTE UP OR DOWN AND YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT,
WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THEN IS VOTE IT UP OR DOWN OR
DIRECT COUNCIL TO COME BACK WITH A SUBSTITUTE, WHICH IS WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
5:02:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THANK YOU.
THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WOULD COME ON THE 22nd DURING --
JUST ON THE CONSENT.
5:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
5:02:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE DO THAT, MR. SHELBY?
5:02:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PUT IT ON THE CONSENT --
5:03:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL VOTE OR VOICE --
5:03:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR THESE PURPOSES, YES --
5:03:10PM >>THE CLERK:
HURTAK?
5:03:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:03:14PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:03:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:03:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:03:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:03:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
5:03:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:03:22PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
5:03:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN I AM MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR --
CAN I DO A SEPARATE MOTION?
THIS IS A SEPARATE MOTION, FOR -- I'M JUST ROUNDING HERE.
$125,000 FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TAMPA'S
NEIGHBORHOODS PROJECT FOR USE BY INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY
ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT FROM THE FY '25 -- I DON'T WANT TO
SAY LEFTOVER FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.
SURPLUS.
SURPLUS FUND.
5:04:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PAID BY SEPTEMBER 30, END OF THE YEAR

BUDGET.
5:04:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FISCAL YEAR 25 SURPLUS FUND ON THE CONSENT
DOCKET FOR JANUARY 22.
5:04:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
ALL IN FAVOR?
SORRY, ROLL CALL VOTE.
YES.
5:04:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:04:29PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:04:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:04:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:04:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:04:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:04:35PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:04:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE
MEETING TO DO --
5:04:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, YOU CAN DO WHENEVER YOU WANT.
5:04:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION TO -- I GUESS THIS
WOULD BE FOR NOT A RESOLUTION --
5:04:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED A CODE AMENDMENT?
5:04:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
TO AMEND THE CODE TO MAKE SURE THE TREE TRUST FUND ONLY PAYS
FOR TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO TREE PLANTINGS.

5:05:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:05:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU WANT TO HAVE A TICKLER?
APPEAR FOR A WRITTEN REPORT OR A TIMELINE FOR THAT?
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE DOING CYCLES OR NOT.
MS. FEELEY WAS HERE EARLIER BUT NOW SHE'S NOT.
5:05:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT THE MOTION BE
A REQUEST THAT STAFF RETURN WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
5:05:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THERE YOU GO.
STAFF TO RETURN WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ON FEBRUARY 19.
5:05:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
5:05:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:05:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:05:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:05:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
5:05:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:05:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:06:01PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:06:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT IS 5:07.

WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY LEFT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. JONES.
ITEM 55, STAFF TO PROVIDE AN IN-PERSON REPORT REGARDING THE
2025 SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
THERE IS NO ONE HERE.
5:06:28PM >> I AM HERE.
5:06:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, SHE IS HERE.
MAGIC!
5:06:36PM >> COUNCIL, HI.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BRENDA McKENZIE, DIRECTOR OF
WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WOULD BE PLEASED TO SHARE A SHORT REPORT ABOUT OUR SUMMER
YOUTH INTERN PROGRAM.
5:06:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
IF WE COULD GET HER ON THE BIG SCREEN, PLEASE, T AND I.
THANK YOU.
EXCELLENT.
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
5:07:01PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THANK YOU.
HAPPY TO SHARE ABOUT THE SUMMER YOUTH INTERN PROGRAM.
WE HAVE SOME EXCITING UPDATES FOR THIS YEAR.
THE PROGRAM HAS ENJOYED A WONDERFUL REPUTATION OVER THE
YEARS, SO WE DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH SUCCESS.
BUT WE THOUGHT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE HOW WE
REACH OUT TO THAT YOUNG PERSON AND REALLY ENSURE THAT WE ARE

CRAFTING A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR THEM.
MOST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE, THIS IS THEIR VERY FIRST JOB
EXPERIENCE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY GET A SENSE OF BELONGING, THAT
THEY KNOW WE WANT THEM AND VALUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING, THE
CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY ARE MAKING HERE.
WE WANT TO ALSO SET CLEAR EXPECTATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN BE
SET UP FOR SUCCESS AND PROVIDE THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY NEED
FOR SUCCESS.
FINALLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THOSE
INITIAL SKILLS AND BUILDING THOSE SKILLS THAT WILL CARRY
THEM FORWARD.
EVERYTHING FROM COMMUNICATIONS TO TIME MANAGEMENT, CUSTOMER
SERVICE AND, OF COURSE, PROBLEM SOLVING.
SO IN TERMS OF ENHANCEMENTS THAT I REALLY WANTED TO
HIGHLIGHT, IT'S HOW WE ARE INTERFACING WITH THE ACTUAL
APPLICANT, WITH THAT POTENTIAL INTERN.
WE TRIED TO STREAMLINE.
WE LISTENED TO THEM, HEARD THEM, EVEN HAD INTERN WORK WITH
US ON STREAMLINING PROGRAM.
WE ARE CREATING USER FRIENDLY URLs FOR THE PROGRAM.
IT SHOULDN'T BE HARD TO SEARCH FOR THE UPDATED PROGRAM.
IT WILL BE TAMPA.GOV/INTERNSHIPS.
SO VERY EASY.
WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE INTERNS THAT SOMETIMES THEY SHOULDN'T

KNOW WHO THEY MIGHT BE RECEIVING CORRESPONDENCE FROM BY
E-MAIL.
AGAIN, WE TRIED TO STREAMLINE THAT.
IT WOULD BE INTERNSHIPS@TAMPA.GOV.
AGAIN, TRYING TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THE INTERN SO THAT
THEY KNOW.
WE ALSO WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE
PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM AS WELL.
SO WE WILL BE DOING LAUNCHING LATER THIS MONTH, OUTREACH TO
THE DEPARTMENTS SO THEY CAN SIGN UP, FILL IN A FORM, LET US
KNOW THE EXACT ASSIGNMENT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THE
INTERN WITH SO, AGAIN, WE CAN CRAFT A CUSTOMIZED EXPERIENCE
FOR THAT INTERN.
5:09:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
5:09:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRENDA.
I KNOW WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH ME.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, WITH THE
SUMMER PROGRAM AND ALSO WITH INCREASING THOSE SLOT NUMBERS
FOR NEXT YEAR.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
RIGHT NOW, STUDENTS CAN APPLY, YES?
5:09:43PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
YES, THE SITE IS OPEN.
IT'S LAUNCHED.

THE POSITION IS OPEN.
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A HARD LAUNCH LATER THIS MONTH WITH
SOCIAL MEDIA AND COMMUNITY GROUP PUSHING THE OPPORTUNITY.
BUT IT'S OPEN.
TAMPA.GOV/INTERNSHIPS.
5:10:02PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO FROM MY SEAT, I
WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT COULD BENEFIT
FROM THIS.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW, EVEN IF IT IS WITH OUTREACH, GETTING OUT
TO THE COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO
SEEING THIS.
THAT WAS ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
5:10:26PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
WOULD LOVE THAT.
THANK YOU.
5:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THE MOTION WAS TO INCLUDE THINGS THAT WERE
SUCCESSFUL, AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH,
THINGS THAT DID NOT WORK, PLANS FOR THE 2026 PROGRAM AND HOW
WE CAN ADD MORE YOUNG PEOPLE TO THIS PROGRAM.
IF YOU COULD GO STEP BY STEP THROUGH THE MOTION, THAT WOULD
BE GREAT.
5:10:44PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
YEAH.
SO FOR THINGS THAT WERE SUCCESSFUL, REALLY THE INTEREST IN
THE PROGRAM.
THE INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM HAS REMAINED STRONG.

ALSO, WE HAVE GENERATIONAL REPUTATION WITH THE PROGRAM.
NOW WE'RE SEEING PARENTS WHO MAY BE PARTICIPATING IN THE
PROGRAM IN THE PAST, THEY WANT THEIR YOUNG PERSON TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD ON THAT LONG-TERM
REPUTATION OF THE PROGRAM.
IN TERMS OF AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT, WE FOUND THAT WORKFORCE
PARTNERSHIPS WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM SINCE
SEPTEMBER.
SO WE HAD TO WORK FAIRLY QUICKLY, BUT WE DID NOTICE THAT
THERE WERE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE
ADMINISTRATION.
SO HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH THAT PROSPECTIVE INTERN, HOW WE
GIVE THEM INFORMATION IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE
PROCESS.
HOW WE TALK INTERNALLY TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE
EVERYTHING IS STREAMLINED.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH T AND I DEPARTMENT, HR DEPARTMENT,
PARKS DEPARTMENT TO STREAMLINE THE COMMUNICATION TO ENHANCE
THE EXPERIENCE.
IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH, THIS YEAR WE ARE
TRYING A NUMBER OF INTERNAL ENHANCEMENTS TO WORK ON THAT
EXPERIENCE.
SO WE BELIEVE AFTER THIS YEAR, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE

POISED FOR GROWTH AND BY INSTITUTING SOME OF THOSE
IMPROVEMENTS FROM T AND I, IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP THEM
MANAGE THE PROGRAM LOOKING FORWARD.
THE FINAL ONE IS HOW WE GROW.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO BE EFFICIENT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT A
FEW MORE INTERNS WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE DO HAVE BY TAKING
SOME OF THE PROCESSES INTERNAL AND STREAMLINING SOME OF THE
PROCESSES.
WE'RE JUST DOING WHATEVER WE CAN TO REACH THE MOST NUMBER OF
STUDENTS AND GIVE THEM A REALLY PHENOMENAL EXPERIENCE.
5:12:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT THINGS THAT DID NOT WORK?
5:12:30PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
AGAIN, I THINK THE COMMUNICATION.
SOME OF THE CALL-OUTS WE RECEIVED IS OUR COMMUNICATION COULD
BE ENHANCED.
THAT'S WHY WE REALLY FOCUSED IN HOW TO IMPROVE THAT AND
INSTITUTE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE 2026 YEAR.
5:12:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MANY STUDENTS OR YOUNG PEOPLE WERE
INVOLVED LAST YEAR?
5:12:50PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
WE WERE AT CAPACITY AT 48 STUDENTS.
THERE WERE 48 SLOTS AND 48 STUDENTS.
5:12:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE THIS
YEAR?
5:12:58PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THE BUDGET CALLED FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF
STUDENTS, SO 48 SLOTS AND 48 STUDENTS.

5:13:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO IF THIS COUNCIL WERE TO BUDGET MORE MONEY
TOWARD THIS PROGRAM, HOW MANY STUDENTS DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU
COULD ACTUALLY TAKE ON THIS YEAR?
5:13:16PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
I THINK WE WILL BETTER KNOW THAT IN A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER WE GET THE SURVEYS BACK FROM THE
DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.
BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT TO MATCH EVERY DEPARTMENT WHO IS
INTERESTED IN HOSTING AN INTERN WITH AN INTERN THAT FITS THE
NEEDS.
5:13:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIKE BALLPARK -- SO WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO
HAVE THE NUMBER OF -- THE INFORMATION FROM DEPARTMENTS?
5:13:42PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL ELECTRONIC.
THANKS TO T AND I.
WE'LL HAVE THAT BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
5:13:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
WHAT I WOULD LOVE -- I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT.
IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER, BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE ROUND
NUMBERS.
SO I THINK LIKE 60.
IT'S NOT A TON MORE BUT SOME MORE, TO GROW A LITTLE BIT TO
REALLY BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THE YEAR AFTER, BUT JUST 12 MORE,
THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL.
AND THEN -- UH-OH.
SCREEN WENT OUT.
HOPEFULLY WE'RE STILL ON.

MAYBE IT'S TELLING US WE NEED TO WRAP UP.
WE'RE STILL ON.
SO MY GOAL WOULD BE 60.
SO WHAT I WOULD LOOK FOR FROM YOU PERSONALLY IS -- BY THE
END OF THE MONTH, KNOWING HOW MANY SPACES, IF WE CAN GET 60
AND HOW MUCH MONEY THAT MIGHT BE.
SO I WOULD LOVE IF YOU WOULD COME BACK WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT OR IF
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION, OR IF
YOU JUST AUTOMATICALLY COME BACK.
HOW ABOUT COMING BACK -- FEBRUARY 5 IS NOT ENOUGH TIME, I
WOULD ASSUME.
HOW ABOUT THE 19th?
IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST LET US KNOW.
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT MOTION?
5:15:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WILL RAISE YOU, BECAUSE BRENDA AND I ALREADY
SPOKE.
I SAID 70.
5:15:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF SHE FEELS 70 IS DOABLE, YEAH, OKAY.
YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION?
FOR FEBRUARY 19.
5:15:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE -- MAKE A MOTION FOR
WORKFORCE -- WAS IT WORKFORCE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM TO COME
BACK FEBRUARY 19th.
5:15:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO FIND OUT HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS.

5:15:55PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM AND HOW MANY MORE SLOTS --
5:16:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SEE IF WE CAN GET TO 70.
5:16:05PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SEE IF WE CAN ADD 70 TOTAL SLOTS.
5:16:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT WILL COST TO DO THAT.
5:16:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT WILL COST TO DO THAT.
5:16:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL TAKE THAT MOTION JOINTLY MADE, BUT BY
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
CAN WE VOICE VOTE THIS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS BACK.
I SAW WE HAD A FURRY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR JUST A MOMENT.
YES, THE DOG WAS THERE.
YOU KNOW ME, I WON'T MISS A DOG.
EXCELLENT.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT'S COMING FORWARD NEXT.
5:16:57PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT.

5:16:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE MS. WYNN OR IS IT MR. FOWLER COMING BACK.
WHOEVER IS DOING A VERBAL REPORT FOR THE APPROVED CATERER
LIST.
THIS WILL BE GOOD.
5:17:18PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, TED FOWLER.
5:17:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU PROVIDE THE IN-PERSON REPORT ON THE
APPROVED CATERER LIST FOR CITY VENUES AND THE WEBSITE
IMPROVEMENTS REGARDING VENUE AVAILABILITY?
5:17:35PM >>TED FOWLER:
YES, WE CAN.
WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR PROCESSES.
THE ONES THAT REMAIN, OF COURSE, IS THE VENDORS MUST MEET
THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS OF PROPER LICENSING AND
CERTIFICATIONS AND ALSO MUST HAVE INSURANCE.
A CATERER IS BOOKING AN EVENT THAT IS ALCOHOL RELATED.
THEY MUST HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE AS WELL.
WE HAVE MADE CHANGES, THE VENDORS NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE AT
LEAST SEVEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
NO MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THAT.
THEY DO NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE AN ONLINE PRESENCE WHICH WAS
A REQUIREMENT IN THE OLD SYSTEM.
AND WE ALSO HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR FREQUENTLY
ASKED QUESTIONS ON OUR WEBSITE.
SINCE WE CHANGED OUR PROCESS, WE'VE HAD 43 CATERERS REQUEST

INFORMATION.
22 HAVE SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS.
AND 18 CATERERS HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES WITH THE FACILITY
SINCE APRIL 2025 WHEN WE INSTITUTED THE CHANGES.
5:18:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE?
5:18:52PM >>TED FOWLER:
WE DO NOT HAVE A LIST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE
WERE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM.
WE COULD PRODUCE A LIST BUT THE LIST IS ORGANIC AND CHANGING
EVERY TIME.
FOR INSTANCE, SOMEBODY COULD BE AT THE RIVER CENTER RIGHT
NOW BOOKING THE EVENT AND THEY CAN BRING THEIR OWN CATERER
AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
IF THAT IS THE ASK OF THE COUNCIL, WE CAN PRODUCE THE LIST,
BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE CURRENT AS SOON AS TOMORROW.
THE IDEA WAS TO GET AWAY FROM THE LIST AND MAKE IT OPEN TO
EVERYBODY.
5:19:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIST SINCE YOU'VE MADE
THE CHANGES, THE LIST OF CATERERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED SO
FAR, SINCE YOU ALL HAVE MADE THOSE CHANGES.
5:19:38PM >>TED FOWLER:
OKAY.
I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
5:19:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT HAVING A LIST ONLINE OF ALL THE
ONES WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED AND BEING ABLE TO ADD TO IT AS
MORE HOP ON?

5:19:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD, TOO.
5:19:55PM >>TED FOWLER:
THAT IS AN IDEA AS WELL.
WE WANTED TO TRY AND GET AWAY FROM THE LIST BECAUSE WE FEEL
LIKE IT COULD BE MISCONSTRUED AS THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ONLY
ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
WE CAN LOOK INTERNALLY AT THE PROCESS.
AGAIN, IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE
AS OFTEN AS IT CHANGES.
LIKE I SAID, THERE COULD BE THREE DIFFERENT FOLKS TRYING TO
BOOK AN EVENT AND THEY ARE BRINGING THEIR OWN CATERERS, THAT
LIST COULD GROW EXPONENTIALLY DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY.
I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED INTO CHANGING THE SOFTWARE TO
ACCOMMODATE THE ASK OF WEBSITE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE COST IS
PROHIBITIVE.
WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH
SOMETHING.
5:20:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WOULD BE GREAT -- EXCUSE ME.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS YOU'VE RECEIVED
SINCE APRIL?
5:20:57PM >>TED FOWLER:
THE NUMBER AND INTEREST AND NUMBER OF
APPLICATIONS ARE DIFFERENT.
5:21:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
GIVE ME THE INTEREST.
5:21:08PM >>TED FOWLER:
-- CATERERS REQUEST INFORMATION.
[INDISCERNIBLE]

WE'VE HAD 22 CATERERS SUBMIT APPLICATIONS.
THEN WE HAD 18 CATERERS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA SET FORTH
THROUGH LEGAL AND THAT HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES WITHIN THE
FACILITY IN THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS.
5:21:29PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M SORRY.
I MISSED IT.
CAN YOU REPEAT.
YOU HAD 43 THAT WERE INTERESTED.
22 THAT SUBMITTED?
5:21:40PM >>TED FOWLER:
AND 18 WHO MET THE CRITERIA AND THE MINIMUM
STANDARDS TO PROVIDE SERVICES WITHIN THE RIVER -- SINCE
APRIL 2025.
5:21:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID ALL 18 OF THOSE ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE
SERVICE?
5:21:53PM >>TED FOWLER:
YES, THEY DID.
5:21:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO HOW ABOUT THIS?
AND THIS IS SINCE APRIL 2025?
5:22:01PM >>TED FOWLER:
YES.
5:22:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT WE HAVE YOU COME BACK IN APRIL OR
COME BACK TO UPDATE THESE NUMBERS?
WHAT DATE WORKS FOR YOU.
5:22:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD THAT BE A WRITTEN REPORT?
5:22:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M THINKING THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE DO
EVERY SIX MONTHS, SOMETHING TO KEEP IT FRESH BECAUSE IT'S
SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC KEEPS ASKING US ABOUT.

THAT WAY THE NUMBERS, WE CAN GET A LIST, BUT IF WE SIMPLY
GET THE NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS KEEP GOING UP,
THAT'S OUR INTEREST, I BELIEVE.
AT LEAST THAT WAS MY INTEREST IN PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
5:22:43PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND THEN WE'LL KNOW THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED
TO MAKE MORE CHANGES TO THE LIST, IS IT WORKING?
I WOULD LIKE THAT?
I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
5:22:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION SINCE I'M
CHAIRING TODAY?
5:22:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT GETTING A LIST OF
CATERERS.
WHICH LIST?
THE APPROVED?
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW MR. FOWLER HAS OFFERED TO DO
THAT.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, IF HE DOES IT BY E-MAIL, THAT HE
E-MAILS TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SO EVERYBODY HAS A
COPY.
5:23:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, PLEASE.
5:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE BOTH THE MOTIONS?
5:23:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION NUMBER ONE IS TO PROVIDE US WITH THE
LIST OF ALL CATERERS --
5:23:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT THE ONES INTERESTED, SUBMITTING
APPLICATIONS OR MET CRITERIA?

5:23:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD LIKE ALL OF THEM, WHY NOT.
5:23:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT THEM E-MAILED TO US?
5:23:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:23:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BY WHEN?
5:23:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE YOU TO
GET THAT, MR. FOWLER?
5:23:52PM >>TED FOWLER:
I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS IS ENOUGH.
LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, TWO WEEKS IS THE MAXIMUM.
AS SOON AS I GET THE INFORMATION, I'LL HAVE IT TO YOU.
5:24:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, TO HAVE THE LIST TO
COUNCIL MEMBERS BY JANUARY 22.
5:24:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, I
HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
NEXT MOTION.
5:24:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THE NEXT MOTION WAS --
5:24:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CHAIR PRO TEM HURTAK.
5:24:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVE A REPORT IN
JUNE, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE SIX MONTHS.
SO LET'S GO -- ACTUALLY, LET'S DO QUARTERLY FOR A LITTLE
WHILE.
APRIL.
A WRITTEN REPORT ON APRIL 2nd OF THE SAME THING -- THE

NUMBER OF INTERESTED -- THE NUMBER OF THOSE INTERESTED, THE
NUMBER OF THOSE WHO SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, AND THEN THE
NUMBER OF THOSE WHO MET CRITERIA, SLASH, YOU KNOW, CATERED.
5:25:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK FOR APRIL 2nd, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:25:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, ON THAT, THAT
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT?
5:25:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
5:25:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO WE HAVE ONE ITEM LEFT.
THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 60.
I'M SURE MS. FEELEY IS ONLINE SOMEWHERE.
5:25:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOVERN, COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE IT.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK TO SHARE MY SCREEN FOR A MOMENT,
IF THAT'S OKAY.
I DID DO A QUICK SLIDE.
EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.
5:26:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. SCHARF, IF YOU COULD COME IN WHILE SHE'S
DOING THAT.
5:26:30PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
5:26:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:26:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
WRONG SCREEN THEN, HOLD ON.
I KNEW THE CODE WASN'T THAT EXCITING.
JUST A QUICK UPDATE, SUPER EXCITED, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE SOMEWHERE TO BE, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE
TOO DELAYED.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE PUSHED OUT THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THE
CODE UPDATE SO THAT WE COULD ALLOW FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN TO COME BACK TO YOU, WHICH IS COMING BACK ON FEBRUARY
17th.
YOU HAVE A SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING THAT EVENING.
THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE THE DAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO
LAUNCH THE FIRST INSTALLMENT FOR THE CODE.
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.
IT WILL GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT DAY.
WE'LL HAVE COMMUNICATION SURROUNDING THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE PLANNED OUR FIRST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING
ON THE FIRST INSTALLMENT ON MARCH 2nd AT HANNA IN THE
EVENING TIME.
RUNNING PARALLEL TO THAT WILL BE THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THEIR FIRST

MEETING ON FEBRUARY 18, BUT THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE FOR
CLARION TO GO OVER WITH THEM HOW IS THE INSTALLMENT
ORGANIZED, WHERE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES?
WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE?
THEN THEY WILL SET THEIR ACTUAL WORKING SESSION FOR MARCH
1st -- SORRY, APRIL 1st.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT GOING ON.
A LOT OF INFORMATION GETTING READY TO GO OUT.
OF COURSE, THIS IS ALL FLEXIBLE DEPENDING ON SOME OF WHAT
HAPPENS WITH COUNCIL'S ACTION ON FEBRUARY 17.
BUT I DON'T FORESEE THAT THAT WILL BE PROBLEMATIC.
NO FORMAL DECISIONS ARE GOING TO BE MADE.
IN ADDITION TO THIS, WE ARE WORKING ON PREPARING WHAT WE'RE
CALLING SOME MEETINGS IN A BOX, WHICH WILL BE FOR MYSELF IN
LIEU OF MYSELF AND THE ZONING TEAM, IN LIEU OF CLARION TO GO
OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, DO SOME NEIGHBORHOOD, MORE
NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL MEETINGS ABOUT INSTALLMENT ONE AFTER THAT
MARCH TIME PERIOD.
MORE TO COME.
I WILL BE BRINGING YOU SOME MORE, I THINK, EXCITING UPDATES
AS WE GO INTO THE FIRST THREE -- FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE NEW
YEAR.
5:29:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE DATES.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?

MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND E-MAIL
THAT -- THOSE DATES TO US AND THEN GO AHEAD AND PUT IT IN
ONBASE UNDER THIS ITEM.
I KNOW IT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE, TOO, BUT SOMETIMES THAT IS THE
PLACE THAT PEOPLE FIND IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:29:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALSO, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS,
ESPECIALLY AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING, MISSING
MIDDLE HOUSING, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR SMALL DEVELOPERS OR
THOSE THAT HAVE HOMES THAT WANT TO DO THINGS WITH THEIR
LAND.
SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
5:29:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ONE OTHER ITEM, COUNCIL, IF I MAY.
I SAID MARCH 2nd WILL BE THAT PUBLIC MEETING AT HANNA, WE
WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF CLARION COULD PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO CITY
COUNCIL ON MARCH 5th AT YOUR REGULAR MEETING.
WE'RE TARGET BEING A 30-MINUTE UPDATE SO THEY, TOO, CAN GO
OVER INSTALLMENT ONE WITH THE COUNCIL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, CLARION WILL STILL BE IN TOWN ON MARCH
6.
IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEM, I
THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT MARCH 4th AND MARCH 6.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PRIVATE SESSION WITH CLARION TO GO
OVER SOME THINGS, I THINK WE'VE DONE THIS WHEN THE

ASSESSMENT CAME OUT, WE'VE DONE THIS AT A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE ROSEMARY HALL, MY ASSISTANT, GET WITH EACH
OF YOU SO WE CAN GET YOU SCHEDULED WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE A
DESIRE TO MEET WITH CLARION AS WELL.
JUST THAT WAY THEY CAN MEET WITH YOU BUT ALSO ON MARCH 5,
THEY CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND THE
PUBLIC AS WELL FOR THOSE WHO MAY HAVE MISSED THE MARCH 2nd
MEETING.
5:31:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. FEELEY, WOULD THAT TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR
NORMAL REPORT?
5:31:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.
5:31:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T NEED TO ADD IT TO THE CALENDAR.
THAT WILL SIMPLY REPLACE YOUR REPORT.
5:31:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, MA'AM.
5:31:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A SUGGESTION, AND IF MS. FEELEY COULD CHIME
IN, PERHAPS WHAT WE DO IS DO REPLACE IT --
5:31:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ADD IT AND TAKE THE OTHER ONE OFF.
5:31:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, IN THE FACT
THIS IS AS SIGNIFICANT AS IT IS, IT'S UNDER STAFF REPORT,
MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AS A COUNCIL LIMITING THE
NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS THAT DAY BECAUSE, IF YOU LOOK, YOU
ALREADY HAVE THREE COMMENDATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER SECOND READS OR OTHER REVIEW
HEARINGS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

5:31:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MS. FEELEY, IF YOU WANT TO E-MAIL THAT TO MY
OFFICE, I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT.
5:31:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
EXCELLENT.
LASTLY ON THAT, IN FEBRUARY, I'M ACTUALLY OUT OF THE OFFICE.
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF I PROVIDED A
WRITTEN REPORT FOR MY UPDATE FOR FEBRUARY.
IF NOT, I CAN COME BACK ON FEBRUARY 19.
WHATEVER IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
5:32:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
JUST, AGAIN, MAKE A SECOND MOTION SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO A
WRITTEN REPORT.
5:32:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOT IT.
I WILL DO BOTH OF THOSE AND SEND IT TO YOUR OFFICE.
5:32:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU.
ARE WE DONE?
HAVE WE OKAYED EVERYTHING?
LIKE TO DOUBLE CHECK.
MAKING SURE.
WE'LL DO NEW BUSINESS.
MR. SHELBY HAS NEW BUSINESS.
5:32:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DO COUNCIL.
I SENT YOU A REMINDER BY E-MAIL, BUT I WANT TO BRING IT TO
YOUR ATTENTION NOW.
NEXT TUESDAY EVENING, THERE IS A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP

MEETING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS SCHEDULED.
TUESDAY JANUARY 13, 5 P.M., DOWN STAIRS IN THE SISTER CITIES
ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
AGAIN, PUBLIC MEETING, PUBLICLY NOTICED BUT IT WILL NOT BE
TELEVISED.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS PROVIDED FOR IN-PERSON PEOPLE WHO REMAIN
TO THE END OF THE WORKSHOP.
THEY CAN GIVE THEIR COMMENTS THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
NOW, THE PURPOSE, SPECIFICALLY, OF THIS SPECIAL-CALLED
WORKSHOP PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
DISCUSS SUGGESTIONS AND PRIORITIES THAT YOU AS A CITY
COUNCIL WANT TO FORWARD TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW
ADVISORY COMMISSION.
SO THAT BEING THE CASE, COUNCIL, IT STARTS AT 5:00.
I'LL TALK WITH THE CHAIR, MR. CLENDENIN, TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE AS TO A ROAD MAP.
BUT THIS COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS
IN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT YOU COME IN FULLY
PREPARED INDIVIDUALLY WITH WHAT YOU WISH TO BRING TO THE
BOARD TO DISCUSS AS A WHOLE REGARDING YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR THE PRIORITIES OR THOSE AREAS
THAT YOU WISH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING OR I SURMISE THAT AT THE END OF THAT,
THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE COMPILED AND COMPRESSED AND
PRESENTED TO YOU IN A FINAL FORM TO COME BACK AFTER THE

SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP FOR YOUR ACTION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE, MY SUGGESTION IS,
IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL, THAT YOU
HAVE YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES OR YOUR OFFICE PREPARE COPIES TO
BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE TO THAT AND THE CLERK AND ANY OTHER
PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NEED TO HAVE IT THERE.
THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE -- OF COURSE, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN
PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSING IT, NOW IS THE TIME IN PREPARATION OF
THE COMMITTEE BEING FORMED AND HAVE YOU KNOW AS AN ASIDE,
THAT THE CHAIR GATHERED -- I WAS PRESENT AND SO WAS HIS
LEGISLATIVE AIDE, SAM, BUT TO GATHER THE FACILITATOR,
MR. HENDRICKSON, THE LEGAL COUNSEL, MR. TINKLER AND THE CITY
CLERK LIAISON, MS. SIOAGA.
THEY MET VIA TEAMS, INTRODUCED, AND BEGAN THE PROCESS OF
MOVING THIS FORWARD.
I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, SO IN ORDER TO MOVE WHAT YOU
WISH TO HAVE, PLEASE DO TAKE THE EFFORT BETWEEN NOW AND
TUESDAY NIGHT TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL SO
YOU CAN HAVE THIS BE A SHORT, PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
5:35:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:35:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, BUT JUST A COMMENT ON
THAT.
I RAN INTO ASHLEY MORROW ON THE WAY OUT EARLIER.
I THINK -- SHE SAID SHE ALREADY WATCHED ALL OF OUR

DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND SUMMARIZED EVERYTHING WE HAD SAID
ALREADY.
I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.
5:35:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:35:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
IF I MAY, I HAVE A QUICK ONE AND THEN NOT SO QUICK ONE.
I WANT TO DO A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
REQUESTED BY THE GOLD STAR MOTHERS OF TAMPA BAY FOR THE
MOTHER OF THE LATE TYREE LOVE WHO WAS KILLED IN ACTION ON
JANUARY 17, 2025.
5:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:36:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIRWOMAN PRO TEM, MAY I HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THIS?
IS THAT OKAY?
I NEED TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
5:36:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS OUR TIME.
5:36:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING.

HEARING OVER THE DISCUSSION ON THE INTERNSHIPS THAT WAS DONE
BY MS. McKENZIE WHO IS WONDERFUL, SPOKE WITH HER
YESTERDAY, LUCKY TO HAVE HER.
WHAT I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB ON BUT
FRUSTRATING FOR ME FOR REASONS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT.
I SENT OUT A MEMO YESTERDAY ON THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP.
WE'LL CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND WHERE IT'S BEEN AT.
I WANT TO BRIEFLY REVIEW THE HISTORY OF THIS WHICH WILL
INFORM MY FRUSTRATION.
YOU ALL KNOW ME.
I AM A CALM PERSON.
THE CUBAN HULK DOESN'T ALWAYS COME OUT, BUT HERE IT IS.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY WITH REGARDS TO THE SPECIAL NEEDS
INTERNSHIP, AROUND SEPTEMBER OF 2022, THREE AND A HALF YEARS
AGO, THAT I WAS AT AN EVENT FOR MacDONALD TRAINING
CENTER AND THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT FOR THE
CITY OF TAMPA TO DO.
GOT SUPPORT FROM EVERYBODY.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THE ADMINISTRATION AND SO FORTH,
PROPOSED IT IN THE BUDGET, IT PASSED.
THAT WAS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
FAST-FORWARD ABOUT A YEAR, WE FOLLOW UP, NOTHING MUCH
HAPPENS DURING THAT TIME.
APPROPRIATED I THINK ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR
THAT.

GIVE PEOPLE TIME.
THINGS DON'T ALWAYS HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY, ET CETERA.
THEN YOU FAST-FORWARD JUST A LITTLE BIT, WE GET A REPORT IN
JULY OF 2023 TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A FEW PEOPLE.
WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF INTERNS THAT HAVE BEEN HIRED.
AS OF RIGHT NOW AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING.
FAST-FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, BUDGET OF 2023, WE APPROPRIATE
MONEY AGAIN FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP.
APRIL OF 2024, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AND I WAS GROWING
VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED.
I SET UP A MEETING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE
ADMINISTRATION.
TO EXPRESS MY PRIVATE FRUSTRATION BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TO GO
PUBLIC UNLESS I FIRST GIVE PRIVATE OPPORTUNITY AND CHANCE
FOR THAT.
I WAS ASSURED THAT THINGS WERE BEING TAKEN CARE OF, SO FORTH
AND SO ON.
APRIL OF 2024.
FAST-FORWARD TO JULY OF 2025, AND WE HAD RECEIVED A LETTER
FROM OUR FRIENDS, NUMEROUS PLACES, INCLUDING FRIENDS AT
PEPIN INQUIRING ON THE PROGRAM AND MY FRUSTRATION ON THE
LACK OF PROGRESS AND DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE PROGRAM.
MOVE FORWARD, JULY OF 2025, ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO

WHERE WE'RE AT.
WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WE ADDRESS IT IN THE BUDGET.
YESTERDAY, I HAVE A MEETING AND I'M TOLD THERE IS A GREAT
FRAMEWORK.
MS. McKENZIE HAS COME IN AND JUST DONE A GREAT JOB ON
PUTTING THE PROGRAM WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FINALLY.
NOW I'M TOLD THERE'S NO DEDICATED FUNDING FOR IT.
THAT'S AWFUL.
THAT'S TERRIBLE.
IT BOTHERS ME THAT THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED
ABOUT, WHICH I'M ALL FOR IT HAS DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE BUT
A PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DOESN'T HAVE THAT
RIGHT NOW AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS AFTER IT WAS PUT IN
THERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, THE
ADMINISTRATION, WHO ARE GOOD, COMPASSIONATE, DECENT AND
PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF EMPATHY.
PEOPLE WANTING TO GET THIS DONE.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY IT HASN'T GONE FORWARD LIKE IT
SHOULD.
THAT'S WHY I'M PUSHING ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT.
I HAVE A MOTION ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE IS TO HAVE BIMONTHLY UPDATES ON THE SPECIAL NEEDS
PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO START IN PERSON FEBRUARY 5th.
AFTER THAT, THEY CAN BE IN WRITING.
I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE COME EVERY SINGLE MONTH AND
WHATNOT.
BIMONTHLY UPDATES ON SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO
BEGIN ON FEBRUARY 5.
MY MOTION THERE BE THREE PARTS IN ONE MOTION ALL FOR
FEBRUARY 5.
NUMBER --
5:40:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ONLY ASK IF YOU WANT SOMETHING TO BE
REOCCURRING, IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE A SEPARATE MOTION.
DO THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS?
5:40:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO THE FIRST ONE.
5:40:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA ON
HAVING A MONTHLY -- BIMONTHLY REPORT.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
IT BEGINS ON FEBRUARY 5.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
5:40:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TO BE SPECIFIC WHAT THAT MOTION WAS, FEBRUARY
5 IN PERSON.
NEXT MONTH AFTER THAT, THE FIRST WEEK OF EACH MONTH, IT CAN
BE IN WRITING.

WE'LL DETERMINE AS TO WHAT HAPPENS FEBRUARY 5, WHICH I'M
SURE WILL BE JUST DANDY.
SECOND, RENAME THE PROGRAM THE MIKE PHILIPS ALL ABILITIES
INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
AS PART OF THAT FEBRUARY 5 MOTION, TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK
AND REPORT ON THEIR POSITION ON THAT.
I'M SURE THEY WILL BE SUPPORTIVE, OUT OF ABUNDANCE.
5:41:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
5:41:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY ON THAT, REQUEST THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION ADD THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
THERE IS AN INTERNSHIP PAGE ON THE SITE, BUT THIS PROGRAM
APPEARS NOT TO BE LISTED ON THERE.
FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, THE REPRESENTATIVE TO TALK TO US
ABOUT THEIR POSITION ON THAT ON FEBRUARY 5 AS WELL.
5:41:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:41:57PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
5:42:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE TALKED ABOUT FINDING OUT THE BUDGET FOR

ADDING MORE PEOPLE TO THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER?
5:42:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL BE HONEST --
5:42:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T YOU ASK FOR A MONEY.
WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY.
5:42:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD SAY THIS.
WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH YEAR ON
THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE WORK ON THE PART OF PEOPLE.
WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERS, McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, GROH
GROUP AND DIFFERENT FOLKS WAITING TO HELP US WITH THIS.
MY POSITION WOULD BE, AGAIN, I'M NOT UNREASONABLE.
$100,000.
NOT 100,000 INTERNS.
$100,000, WHATEVER THAT WILL PURCHASE OR WHATEVER THAT WILL
DO.
AGAIN, THERE PRESENTLY IS NOT A FUNDING SOURCE.
I'LL MAKE ANOTHER MOTION, WHICH IS BY FEBRUARY 5 THAT WE BE
ADVISED ON A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT.
IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THIS HUGE BUDGET, PLEASE.
WE CAN FIND THAT.
5:43:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.

5:43:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY ON THIS
ISSUE ARE WATCHING BECAUSE THEY KNOW ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
HOW MANY E-MAILS, CALLS, INQUIRIES I GET FROM PARENTS, WHEN
IS THAT PROGRAM GOING TO BEGIN BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR KID
TO BENEFIT.
SAY THIS IN CLOSING, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO THIS.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO THIS.
I REMEMBER MAYOR CASTOR COMING TO ME WHEN SHE FIRST GOT
ELECTED TALKING ABOUT HER HEART FOR THE ALL ABILITIES PARK.
EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT HEART ON THIS.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY IT FELL ASIDE.
[DOG BARKING]
5:43:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WITH THE DOG BARKING, I'LL BE QUIET.
[ LAUGHTER ]
5:43:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
5:43:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I HAVE TWO MOTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
ONE, THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE WILL BE
HOSTING A 38th ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY
CELEBRATION ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6 AT OUR BEAUTIFUL
CONVENTION CENTER.
IT IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNITY EVENT.
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE THEME THIS YEAR WILL BE HONORING OUR VETERANS,
CELEBRATING 250 YEARS OF SERVICE AND STRENGTH.

THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COMMEMORATE OUR
NATION'S ANNIVERSARY BY RECOGNIZING THE MEN AND WOMEN,
LIVING AND DECEASED, WHO HAVE KEPT AMERICA STRONG THROUGH
SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
KEYNOTE ADDRESS WILL BE DELIVERED BY OUR VERY OWN TAMPA FIRE
CHIEF AND U.S. NAVY VETERAN, CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK
HISTORY COMMITTEE INC. TO COME BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON
JANUARY 22nd, 2026 UNDER CEREMONIAL AND/OR PRESENTATIONS
FOR THE PURPOSE OF FORMALLY INVITING CITY COUNCIL AND
PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE 38th ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA
BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION.
5:45:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:45:08PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND ALSO, IN KEEPING WITH -- I FEEL LIKE IT
WAS THE THEME FOR THE DAY.
AMAZING WOMEN, I WOULD ALSO MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
AN OFF-SITE COMMENDATION FOR THE 28th ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA
WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION TO BE HELD ON MARCH 5,
2026 AT THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER.
5:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:45:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE THIS MOTION.
I HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK'S CRA.
BUT I'D LIKE TO DO -- AND THIS IS NOT CONVENTIONAL -- A
COMMENDATION AT A CRA MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
I MAKE THAT MOTION AT CRA, IS THAT CORRECT?
5:45:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CRA MOTION OR CITY COUNCIL MOTION?
5:46:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S HONORING THE ANNIVERSARY OF AN
ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S ON A THURSDAY IN FEBRUARY.
5:46:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I GUESS MY SUGGESTION IS IF YOU WANT CITY
COUNCIL TO DO A COMMENDATION, YOU COULD DO THAT AND PRESENT
IT AT THE CRA.
5:46:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
PRESENT A COMMENDATION AT THE FEBRUARY CRA MEETING BECAUSE
THAT DATE IS THE DATE OF THE FOUNDING OF THE NAACP GOING
BACK TO 1909.
AND IT IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
FEBRUARY 12.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO A PRESENTATION OF A COMMENDATION AT THE
BEGINNING OF THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT'S THAT SPECIFIC DATE
AND I WANT IT TO ALIGN WITH THE ANNIVERSARY.
5:46:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION IS THIS, COUNCIL, TO MAKE

THAT MOTION, TO HAVE THE COMMENDATION PREPARED FOR DELIVERY
ON THAT DATE BUT TO ALSO MAKE THAT MOTION WHEN YOU APPEAR AS
THE CRA TO MAKE SURE IT IS ON YOUR --
5:47:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HAVE THE COMMENDATION -- PRESENT THAT
COMMENDATION ON FEBRUARY 12th COMING FROM CITY COUNCIL,
BUT I'M GOING TO ALSO BRING THIS UP AT THE CRA MEETING SO IT
IS MEMORIALIZED --
5:47:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:47:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN CLARIFY THAT.
BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NEXT WEEK IS ADD THAT TO
YOUR AGENDA FOR MARCH, FOR THE CRA.
5:47:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:47:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS THE FOUNDING OF THE NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION FROM 1909.
5:47:40PM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
NOTHING.
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
5:47:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOW, WHAT A DAY.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I AM SO THANKFUL I DID NOT COME IN.
I WOULD HAVE BEEN COLLAPSED UP THERE ON THE DAIS TODAY.
LITTLE BIT OF A RECAP.

MARTIN SHELBY GAVE YOU A BRIEFING ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION.
THEY ARE EMPOWERED TO START.
THEY GOT THE TOOLS THEY NEED.
THEY ARE GOING TO ORGANIZE THE FIRST MEETING.
WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN TWO MEETINGS IN JANUARY.
MIGHT ONLY BE ONE.
PROBABLY -- MORE THAN LIKELY THE SISTER CITY ROOM.
EXCITED TO KICK OFF THE GROUP.
EVERYBODY IS READY AND WILLING.
I THINK -- LOOKING AT THE LIST OF EVERYBODY YOU NOMINATED
AND MAYOR'S NOMINATIONS, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD TEAM PUT
TOGETHER AND THE FACILITATOR AND THE ATTORNEY AND SUPPORT
FROM OUR CLERK'S STAFF, I THINK WE'RE SET TO HAVE A
SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHARTER AND LOOK FORWARD TO
A GREAT PRODUCT COMING OUT OF THAT.
A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
I THINK IT'S GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
5:48:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
I RECOGNIZE CHAIR PRO TEM HURTAK.
5:48:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AM VERY EXCITED AS WELL.
ACTUALLY WENT AND WATCHED.
I GAVE BOBBY CREIGHTON TWO THREE-INCH BINDERS FROM OUR OLD
DAYS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

HE'S ALREADY READ THEM, ORGANIZED THEM.
IT'S REALLY AWESOME TO SEE PEOPLE REALLY INTERESTED AND
EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
5:49:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, BOB, YOU'RE A NERD.
5:49:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, WE NOMINATED NERDS.
YES, THAT'S FINE.
THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT TITLE, TOO, BECAUSE I ENJOY THE
SAME THING.
I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA TO MAKE
A 15-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THE POST STORM TREE CANOPY
ASSESSMENT DURING THE APRIL 16, 2026 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR
MEETING UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS FOR A
TIME CERTAIN OF RIGHT AFTER LUNCH.
5:49:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR PRO TEM
HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE.
5:49:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
5:49:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
ME.
5:49:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND
FILE.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OKAY.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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