TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 15, 2026, 5:01 P.M.

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5:06:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL EVENING SESSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
5:06:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:06:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:06:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
5:06:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
5:06:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:06:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:06:38PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:06:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
MR. DANIELS.
MR. DANIELS, I FIND THAT -- SIR.
MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD.
5:06:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY

COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ RULE 5 FROM COUNCIL'S RULES OF
PROCEDURE, WHICH IS ENTITLED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND RULES
OF DECORUM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ SECTIONS F, G, H, AND I.
IT READS AS FOLLOWS: SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE
BEHAVIOR INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS AND
SHALL REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS AND COMMENTS
SHALL BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY AND NOT TO
INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
NO ONE PRESENT DURING A COUNCIL MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR
CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE SOUND OR NOISE OR
DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS IN A MANNER DISRUPTIVE TO THE
PROCEEDINGS.
THE CHAIR SHALL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
WHO SHALL SPEAK WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR WHO SHALL NOT --
OR WHO SHALL NOT ADDRESS COUNCIL FROM THE PODIUM OR OTHER
ESTABLISHED SPEAKER AREA.
NO PERSON SHALL APPROACH THE DAIS OF THE CITY COUNCIL DURING
MEETINGS EXCEPT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY
UNLESS INVITED BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
ALL PERSONS SHALL AT ALL TIMES CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN
ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL RULES.
PERSONS FAILING TO DO SO SHALL BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND MAY

BE DIRECTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO BE REMOVED
FROM THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
SUCH PERSON SHALL NOT THEREAFTER BE READMITTED TO THE
COUNCIL CHAMBER OR CITY HALL DURING THE REMAINDER OF THAT
DAY'S MEETING.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
5:08:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
MR. DANIELS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
MR. DANIELS.
MR. DANIELS, I RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, TO
COME BACK INTO ORDER BY CHANGING YOUR ATTIRE.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, YOU CAN REENTER COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
I'M GIVING YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY NOW, PLEASE, SIR.
MR. DANIELS --
5:09:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IS THE RESPONSE, IF
ANY?
IS MR. DANIELS PRESENT IN THIS ROOM?
5:09:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. DANIELS IS PRESENT IN THE ROOM AND IS
NOW PAYING ATTENTION TO HIS TELEPHONE.
MR. DANIELS, I HAVE RULED YOU OUT OF ORDER.
PLEASE REMOVE YOURSELF FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
MR. DANIELS, PLEASE REMOVE YOURSELF FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

CAN I ASK THE POLICE OFFICERS TO REMOVE MR. DANIELS FROM THE
CHAMBERS?
5:09:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE YOU DO SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, FORGIVE ME
FOR INTERRUPTING.
YOU'RE RULING MR. DANIELS OUT OF ORDER?
5:09:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M RULING MR. DANIELS OUT OF ORDER ON THE
BASIS OF HIS DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, AND I ASKED HIM TO LEAVE.
HE HAS REFUSED TO LEAVE.
I AM GOING TO REQUEST THAT OUR OFFICERS HELP MR. DANIELS,
ASSIST HIM IN LEAVING COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
5:10:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS HE NOW BARRED FOR THE REMAINDER OF
TODAY'S MEETING?
5:10:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE IS BARRED FROM THE REST OF TODAY'S
MEETINGS, THANK YOU.
5:10:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU INTEND TO CALL A RECESS?
5:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOING TO RECESS RIGHT NOW.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I'M CALLING TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS.
CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE CHAMBERS AND
RETURN IN FIVE MINUTES.
AND FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, WOULD YOU PLEASE REMAIN
SEATED WHILE WE DO THE BUSINESS.
OFFICERS, WOULD YOU ASSIST MR. DANIELS IN LEAVING THE
CHAMBERS, PLEASE.
[RECESS]

5:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
5:13:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:13:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:14:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:14:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
5:14:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:14:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:14:06PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:14:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, NEVER A DULL MOMENT AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
SO, AS YOU ALL CAN PROBABLY EXPECT, WE HAVE A FULL CHAMBER
AND WE HAVE FOLKS DOWN STAIRS AS WELL.
BECAUSE OF THE ATTENTION THAT ITEMS 1 AND 2 HAS GAINED AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE FOR OTHER HEARINGS
TONIGHT, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
REQUEST CONTINUATIONS IF THEY WANTED TO FOR THOSE HEARINGS.
5:14:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S NOT LEGAL.
NO, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.
5:14:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE COVERED IT ALREADY.
5:14:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
5:14:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE COVERED IT ALREADY.
GRANT PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST IT.
5:14:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY.
WE HAVE A FULL SESSION NEXT MONTH?

WHAT ARE WE DOING?
WE'RE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
I DON'T CARE THAT I'M OUT OF ORDER.
TELL ME THAT ALL YOU WANT.
I DISAGREE.
5:15:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYWAY, SO WE'LL GRANT PEOPLE THE
OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANTED TO REQUEST A CONTINUATION.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT HAS A HEARING TONIGHT AND WANT TO
REQUEST A CONTINUATION, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND DO THAT AT
THIS TIME.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO REQUEST A CONTINUATION?
HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA.
LET'S CLEAR THE AGENDA.
5:15:22PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CLEAR FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
IT IS ITEM 12, FILE REZ-25-112.
THIS ITEM WAS MISNOTICED, SO WE REQUEST IT TO BE REMOVED
FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
5:15:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 12 FOR MISNOTICE?
MOTION FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

5:15:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
5:16:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MORE HOUSEKEEPING, IF YOU ARE HERE AND PLAN ON SPEAKING ON
ITEM 1, IF YOU ARE DONE SPEAKING, IF YOU WOULD LEAVE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS SO WE CAN GRADUALLY START CLEARING TO MAKE ROOM FOR
OTHER PEOPLE TO COME UP, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON ITEM 2 AS WELL, HOLD ON
TO YOUR NUMBER.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1, ONCE YOU ARE DONE
SPEAKING, YOU'LL CLEAR CHAMBERS, GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS AND THEN
CALL YOU UP FOR ITEM 2, BUT YOU'LL HOLD ON TO YOUR NUMBER.
I THINK THAT'S IT.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ITEM 1, STAFF.

5:16:59PM >> GOOD EVENING.
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CORRECTION FOR
THE RECORD.
THE ORIGINAL TRANSMITTAL MEMO THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL
INCORRECTLY STATED THAT THE AMENDMENT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT
BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ITS AUGUST 2025 HEARING.
THAT STATEMENT WAS A TYPO AND IS INCORRECT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE AMENDMENT TO BE
INCONSISTENT.
THIS STATEMENT IS INTENDED TO CORRECT IT FOR THE RECORD.
WITH THAT, I WILL GET INTO MY PRESENTATION.
TODAY, I WILL BE PRESENTING TA/CPA 24-18.
THIS IS FOR THE SITE LOCATED AT 84 DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THIS IS PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
IT IS SMALL SCALE IN SIZE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.6 ACRES.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM
RESIDENTIAL 50 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
IT IS WITHIN THE DAVIS ISLANDS URBAN VILLAGE.
IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE DAVIS ISLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
SUBJECT SITE IS IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUNDING

PROPERTIES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ADALIA AVENUE
AND DAVIS BOULEVARD.
IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE MIRASOL, WHICH IS A
SEVEN-STORY, 58-UNIT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1926 AS A HOTEL AND WAS
LATER CONVERTED INTO APARTMENTS IN THE 1960s.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AT .81 F.A.R. AND
APPROXIMATELY 36 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
ALTHOUGH THE MIRASOL IS NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, IT IS
NOT CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO ANY HISTORIC PRESERVATION
PROTECTIONS.
IT IS NOT DESIGNATED AS LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK AND NOT
LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
HOWEVER, IT MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR A DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE.
I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT.
THE SURROUNDING AREA INCLUDES A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES,
INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
HOMES, AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS.
TO THE SOUTH APPROXIMATELY 325 FEET OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
DAVIS ISLANDS APEX PARK.
MARJORIE PARK YACHT BASIN IS LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE
SUBJECT SITE.
TO THE NORTH, WEST, AND SOUTHWEST ALONG ADALIA AVENUE AND
BALTIC CIRCLE, ALONG HERE, WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT

ARE PREDOMINANTLY ZONED RS 50 -- RS 75 AND RS 50.
THE SITE IS ALSO LOCATED LESS THAN ONE HALF MILE SOUTH OF
TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL AND NEAR COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND MANY
ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.
I'LL RUN THROUGH A FEW IMAGES OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE MIRASOL.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE LEFT OVER HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT AN ADJACENT HOME FROM THE SUBJECT SITE ON
ADALIA AVENUE.
THIS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED HOMES ALONG ADALIA AVENUE.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 50 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT IS A MEDIUM-HIGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY LAND USE CATEGORY,
SO IT ALLOWS UP TO 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, ALLOWS
CONSIDERATION OF MULTIFAMILY, CONDOMINIUMS, THOSE TYPES OF
BUILDINGS.
TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS YELLOW COLOR, ARE
PARCELS DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL 6.

SO THAT IS A RATHER LOW DENSITY LAND USE CATEGORY.
ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND AS
YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS KIND OF THAT IMMEDIATE TRANSITION
BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL 50 TO THE RESIDENTIAL 6 ALONG ADALIA AND
BALTIC CIRCLE.
TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE PARCELS DESIGNATED
AS RESIDENTIAL 10.
AND THEN WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATED PARCELS UP ALONG
DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THERE IS SOME CMU 35 ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
WHEN YOU ZOOM OUT, THERE ARE MORE CMU 35 FOUND ALONG DAVIS
BOULEVARD.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT
SITE RECOGNIZED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION.
SO THIS DESIGNATION IS A MIXED USE DESIGNATION.
ALLOWS A RANGE OF USES, ANYTHING FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO
OFFICE TO A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.
IT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND
ALSO ALLOWS UP TO 2.0 F.A.R. FOR RESIDENTIAL OR
NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
CURRENTLY UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 50 DESIGNATION, THE SUBJECT
SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR 80 DWELLING UNITS OR JUST UNDER
70,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES, SUBJECT TO
MEETING LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.

THOSE WOULD BE LIMITED TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING
COMMERCIAL USES.
AS PROPOSED UNDER THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION, THE SUBJECT SITE
COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR 56 DWELLING UNITS OR APPROXIMATELY
139,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
THIS AMENDMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL OF INTRODUCING SOME
COMMERCIAL GENERAL TYPE USES ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
IT ALSO ALLOWS THE SITE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE UTILIZATION
OF F.A.R. FOR RESIDENTIAL, TO CALCULATE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY
ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
SO THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN
DENSITY ON THIS SUBJECT SITE.
WE SENT THIS OUT TO OUR PARTNER REVIEWING AGENCIES.
THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF OBJECTED TO THE REQUEST.
IN AUGUST OF 2025, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL POLICIES
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHILE THE R-50 DESIGNATION COULD BE VIEWED AS AN IMMEDIATE
TRANSITION FROM NEARBY R-6 AREAS, THE PROPOSED CMU 35
DESIGNATION REPRESENTED A MORE ABRUPT CHANGE.
THIS COULD RESULT IN A BUILDING MASS AND SCALE THAT ARE OUT
OF CHARACTER WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS
THE INTRODUCTION OF CERTAIN COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES THAT
COULD IMPACT NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AS A RESULT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE REQUEST

CONFLICTS WITH POLICIES INTENDED TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD
CHARACTER AND ENSURE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
THE REQUEST WAS ALSO FOUND INCONSISTENT WITH POLICIES
RELATED TO THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD REDUCE DENSITY FROM 50
TO 35 UNITS PER ACRE, THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION ALLOWS F.A.R.
TO BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WHICH COULD RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
POTENTIAL INCREASE CONFLICTS WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
POLICIES THAT DIRECT FUTURE POPULATION GROWTH AWAY FROM THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDED THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:25:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
WE HAVE A QUESTION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:25:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD SOMEONE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA EXPLAIN
THEIR OBJECTIONS?
5:25:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFF PRESENTATION YET.

5:25:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, THEY ARE.
SORRY.
5:25:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS CITY STAFF GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION?
5:25:54PM >> EVAN JOHNSON, CITY PLANNING.
OUR OBJECTIONS WERE VERY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE
PLANNING COMMISSION SAID TONIGHT WITH THE CONFLICT, POSSIBLE
INCREASE OF DENSITY AND INTENSITY, PARTICULARLY WITH USE OF
THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AND THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING
RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AT THE SITE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
YOU ARE INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES AT THE SITE.
SO COMPATIBILITY, NOT ONLY FROM A DENSITY AND INTENSITY
STANDPOINT BUT ALSO JUST FROM NEIGHBORHOOD USE, WHERE YOU
HAVE A LARGE LOT, SINGLE-FAMILY R-6, NEXT TO WHAT WILL
BECOME POTENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL GENERAL USE.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.
5:26:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL?
5:26:39PM >>EVAN JOHNSON:
I DO NOT.
5:26:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO PRESENTATION.
SO WE'LL GO RIGHT TO THE APPLICANT.
VERY GOOD.
APPLICANT.
5:26:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS TYLER HUDSON.

MY ADDRESS IS 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME A MOMENT TO GET THIS CONNECTED.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
5:27:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, WE NEED IT ON THE PUBLIC SCREEN.
THERE WE GO.
5:27:38PM >> IT'S 2026.
IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE.
I'M STILL MISWRITING CHECKS.
THE STORY OF THIS LAND AND THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT TONIGHT, THE BUILDING, THE MIRASOL BUILDING, WHICH I
REMINDS EVERYBODY EXISTS.
IT IS A REAL THING.
IT IS .9 MILES AWAY AS THE CROW FLIES FROM WHERE WE ARE
STANDING RIGHT NOW.
DAVIS ISLANDS WAS DREDGED BACK IN 1924, OVER A CENTURY AGO.
RESEARCHING THE CASE, I FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO
DREDGE IT FOR THE SUM OF $2 MILLION, WHICH IS PRETTY
REMARKABLE WHEN YOU CONSIDER IT WENT FROM BEING LITTLE
GRASSY KEY, BIG GRASSY KEY, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY WE
SEE TODAY.
INTERESTING THAT DAVIS ISLANDS ITSELF HAD A LOT OF
OPPOSITION WHEN IT WAS CREATED.
A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVED IN SOME OF THE MANSIONS ON
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD OPPOSED IT.
ACTUALLY WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURTS.

THEY WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL AND IT LED TO THE INCREDIBLE DAVIS
ISLANDS COMMUNITY BEING FORMED.
YOU'LL HEAR A LOT FROM FOLKS ON THE DAVIS ISLAND COMMUNITY
ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY.
THE HOTEL OPENS IN 1926.
MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL BUILDING, DESIGNED BY MARTIN HAMPTON,
A PROT G OF ADDISON MISENER.
OPENED THE DOORS AND CELEBRATED BY ALL THE MAJOR NEWSPAPERS
OF TAMPA BACK IN THE DAY.
NEWSPAPERS PLURAL BECAUSE THIS IS A TIME WHEN THERE WERE
MULTIPLE NEWSPAPERS DELIVERING NEWSPAPERS MULTIPLE TIMES A
DAY AND A LOT OF COOL STUFF WE FOUND AND TALK ABOUT LATER
ON.
IT DIDN'T HAVE A VERY LONG RUN.
FORECLOSED ON IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION WHICH FOLLOWED THE
FLORIDA LAND BUST LATE 1920s AND EARLY 1930s.
ANOTHER ACT TURNED INTO MILITARY HOUSING DURING
WORLD WAR II.
GENERATION HAD ANOTHER ACT, AND THE HOTEL ROOMS STARTED TO
GET RENTED OUT AS APARTMENT BUILDINGS, APARTMENT UNITS.
THAT'S BEEN THE USE OF THE BUILDING SINCE THE 1960s.
THE BUILDING WAS BUILT AS A HOTEL.
BEEN OPERATED SINCE THE 1960s AS APARTMENT UNITS.
WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR ONE REASON ON THIS AGENDA ITEM 1, WE
WANT TO RESTORE THE ORIGINAL HOTEL USE TO THE MIRASOL

BUILDING.
A LITTLE BIT OF REGULATORY HISTORY, THIS IS BORING.
I WON'T GO TOO DEEP INTO THIS.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE COLORS ON THE
MAP, THE LETTERS AND NUMBERS, WHAT THEY MEAN.
1975, THE STATE OF FLORIDA PASSED THE FLORIDA COMPREHENSIVE
PLANNING ACT SAYING EVERY JURISDICTION YOU NEED TO HAVE A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO TAMPA ADOPTED ITS FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 1980.
BREATHLESSLY TITLED HORIZON 2000 WHEN THE TURN OF THE
MILLENNIUM WAS STILL A GENERATION AWAY AT THAT POINT.
THEY LOOKED AT THIS PIECE OF LAND, SAW WHAT IT WAS AND
ASSIGNED THE R-50 LAND USE, RESIDENTIAL 50.
THAT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION HAS BEEN THE SAME EVER
SINCE IT WAS FIRST PUT ON THE LAND.
R-50 IS UNUSUAL FOR DAVIS ISLAND IN TWO RESPECTS.
THE FIRST IS THAT IT IS THE ONLY PIECE OF R-50 LAND ON DAVIS
ISLAND.
IT IS A ONE OF ONE.
THAT IS UNUSUAL BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THE MAPS,
THE COLORS TEND TO CLUSTER A LITTLE BIT.
IT IS THE ONLY PIECE OF R-50 ON THE ISLAND.
IT IS ALSO THE MOST DENSE PIECE OF LAND ON DAVIS ISLAND.
THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT USING F.A.R., USING UNITS PER ACRE.
TYPICALLY, WHEN I'M HERE BEFORE YOU, WE ARE ADVOCATING ON

BEHALF OF USING F.A.R. TO HAVE A LARGER BUILDING WITH A
LARGE NUMBER OF SMALL UNITS INSIDE OF IT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
THINGS LIKE LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS, UNITS PER ACRE IS ACTUALLY
FAR MORE VALUABLE BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT A MODERATE NUMBER OF
VERY LARGE UNITS INTO A BUILDING.
WHAT IS R-50 LOOK LIKE OFF DAVIS ISLAND?
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
THE AQUATIC CONDOMINIUM AT BAY TO BAY AND BAYSHORE.
THAT IS R 50.
SOME OF YOU WERE HERE DURING THE RITZ CARLSON REZONING WHICH
WAS SO NICE REZONED IT TWICE.
THAT WAS ALSO R-50.
THIS IS A HIGH DENSITY DESIGNATION THAT CAN PREDOMINANTLY BE
USED FOR FAIRLY LARGE LUXURY CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS.
WE DON'T CARE THAT THE F.A.R. IS NOMINAL BECAUSE PUTTING 40,
50 PER ACRE UNITS OF LARGE SCALE UNITS CAN CREATE A
SIGNIFICANT BUILDING MASS.
I WANT YOU TO BEAR IN MIND, THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE LAND
ALLOWS BUILDINGS TO BE CONSTRUCTED UP TO 120 FEET.
THE MIRASOL IS 99.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEKING, CMU 35.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY BREAD-AND-BUTTER CATEGORY OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S ONE THAT YOU SEE OFTEN.

BASED ON OUR INITIAL RESEARCH, IT LOOKS LIKE ALMOST HALF OF
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS IN THE LAST DECADE HAVE
BEEN TO CMU 35.
THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR CMU 35 ON DAVIS ISLAND.
THERE IS PRECEDENT ON EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD.
YOU SEE THAT PURPLE PIECE NEAR THE GREEN STAR, THAT PROVIDES
A VERY INTERESTING HISTORICAL ANALOG.
THAT WAS BUILT AS THE PALMERIN HOTEL.
IT WAS BUILT IN 1926 BY MARTIN HAMPTON.
IT WAS LIKE THE MIRASOL'S LITTLE SIBLING.
IT WAS CONVERTED AT SOME TIME FROM A HOTEL USE TO BEING A
SENIOR CARE FACILITY.
IT'S NOW CALLED HUDSON MANNER, OF WHICH THERE IS NO RELATION
TO ME.
CMU 35 WAS ASSIGNED TO THAT PIECE OF LAND IN 1980.
1980, EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE A COMP PLAN.
EVERYONE GETS A COLOR.
THAT PIECE OF LAND IN 1920s HOTEL WAS ASSIGNED CMU 35
BECAUSE IT WAS STILL OPERATING AS A HOTEL UNTIL THE 1980s.
IT WAS STILL OPERATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE 1980s.
BUT THE MIRASOL WASN'T.
1980 WHEN PLANNERS CAME AROUND WITH THEIR COLOR SWATCHES,
THEY SAID THAT IS AN APARTMENT.
THAT'S RESIDENTIAL 50.
THAT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION BEFORE YOU ALL ON THIS AGENDA
ITEM 1 IS THAT QUIRK OF HISTORY, DOES THE FACT THAT THE
BUILDING WAS ASSIGNED A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION IN
1980, DOES THAT MEAN IT SHOULD NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE
BE CONSIDERED TO BE A HOTEL AGAIN?
BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, YOU SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS.
THAT IS THE ONLY JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR A NO VOTE ON THIS,
IS TO BELIEVE THAT HOTEL USE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCOMMODATE
WITHIN CMU 35 BEING MINDFUL OF THE ZONING CONTROLS THAT YOU,
AND ONLY YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MAINTAIN.
EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD.
BUILDING IS ON EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD, AN ARTERIAL ROAD BEFORE
THE FORK.
YOU KNOW HOW DAVIS BOULEVARD FORKS.
THIS IS BEFORE THE FORK.
THAT SECTION IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD.
THE HIGHEST ROADWAY CLASSIFICATION THAT THE CITY HAS AND
IT'S VERY COMMON IN SOUTH TAMPA TO HAVE CMU 35 ON ARTERIAL
ROADS.
I ALLUDED TO THIS JUST NOW, THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
R 50 PROHIBITS HOTEL USE.
THE ORIGINAL USE FOR WHICH THIS HISTORIC AND HISTORICALLY
UNPROTECTED BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED WAS FOR HOTEL USE.
IT IS PROHIBITED UNDER THE LAND USE THAT THIS BUILDING
CURRENTLY HAS FULL STOP.

A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT LIKE THIS ITEM 1 IS REQUIRED BEFORE
YOU ALL EVEN CAN CONSIDER WHAT A ZONING WOULD LOOK LIKE.
HOW BIG, HOW WIDE, HOW MANY PARKING, WHERE IS THE GARBAGE,
TREES, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
THAT ZONING YOU ALL CAN'T EVEN CONSIDER A HOTEL USE HERE
UNLESS THIS ITEM ONE IS APPROVED.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE BECAUSE I AM ASKING THAT YOU
ALL MAKE YOUR DECISION TODAY BASED ON REALITY AND BASED ON
FACTS AND BASED ON PROCEDURE AND PROCESS.
A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES TYPES OF USES YOU CAN
CONSIDER.
IT PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK FOR EVALUATING ZONING REQUESTS.
IT'S A MENU.
IT'S A MENU.
RIGHT NOW IT'S GOT A BREAKFAST MENU.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BRUNCH MENU OR VICE VERSA.
I DON'T KNOW.
THERE ARE OVERLAPS, BUT IT GIVES YOU A SET OF CHOICES.
WHAT THIS DOESN'T DO IS GRANT ANY NEW USE PERMISSIONS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT IF YOU VOTE YES SOMEONE CAN ASK TO
PUT A 200,000-SQUARE-FOOT SHOPPING CENTER ON THE PROPERTY.
SURE, THEY CAN ASK FOR THAT.
AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE WITH THE PINK SHIRTS ON WOULD BE
HERE AGAINST THAT.
NO ONE WILL VOTE FOR THAT.

THAT'S CRAZY.
NO ONE WOULD ASK YOU FOR THAT.
THIS DOES NOT APPROVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT, THIS VOTE.
IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION TO APPROVE IT IN THE FUTURE.
THIS ISN'T YOUR ORDER.
IT'S YOUR MENU.
I'LL REPEAT THIS.
THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT YOU HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU
RIGHT NOW MERELY SETS THE UNIVERSE OF POTENTIAL USES THAT
YOU DECIDE WITH ZONING.
WHEN YOU HEAR FROM NEIGHBORS, FOLKS SAY THIS WILL ALLOW
INFINITE COMMERCIAL USE, 200,000 SQUARE FEET, TO BELIEVE
THAT, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL WOULD APPROVE THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY SAYING THEY DON'T TRUST THAT COUNCIL WILL
HAVE THE DISCRETION TO APPROPRIATELY SAFEGUARD THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH A SEPARATE ZONING.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ZONING, BECAUSE THAT MATTERS AND SHOULD
BEAR IN YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THIS ZONING RIGHT NOW IS RM 35.
HOTEL IS A PROHIBITED USE.
IF YOU VOTE YES FOR THIS TWICE BUT NO ZONING APPROVED, YOU
CAN'T PUT A HOTEL HERE.
NOTHING CHANGES.
SOMETHING PROBABLY CHANGES THE WAY THE BUILDING LOOKS, BUT

HOTEL USE ISN'T ALLOWED UNTIL YOU REZONE THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS ITEM ONE IS.
YOUR CODE TALKS A LOT ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT IT'S
WORDS.
IT'S STUFF.
IT'S ARRANGEMENTS OF LETTERS ON PAPER.
IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY PUT ENFORCEABLE PRESERVATION
OUTCOMES INTO PLACE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING THE APPLICANT
COMMIT TO OBTAINING A LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THE PROPERTY
BEFORE CO.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
YOU CAN DO THAT IN ZONING.
CAN'T DO THAT HERE.
TALK ABOUT RELIANCE.
THAT IS A LATIN WORD.
MEANS TO REBOUND, SPRING BACK.
THIS BUILDING HAS SPRUNG BACK FROM A LOT.
1926 HURRICANE, 1926 LAND BUST, GREAT DEPRESSION.
CONVERTED TO MILITARY HOUSING, CENTURY OF CHANGE.
THINK ABOUT THE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS,
GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALLED THIS HOME.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE DEALT WITH RENTAL PROPERTY, THE WEAR
AND TEAR OF MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE ON THIS BUILDING
WHICH IS SOMEHOW STILL STANDING.
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY RESILIENT BUILDING, BUT RESILIENCE HAS

ITS LIMITS, AS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND ON THE
SECOND FLOOR AND MAYBE STILL ON THE FIRST FLOOR KNOW ALL TOO
WELL.
SOME OF YOU KNOW ALL TOO WELL.
THIS BUILDING GOT HIT VERY HARD BY THE HURRICANES.
WE COULD SPEND THE ENTIRE TIME TALKING ABOUT HOW AND IN
WHICH WAY AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT'S GOING TO COST TO FIX IT,
AND WHY THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION METHOD, THIS ADAPTIVE
REUSE METHOD OF TURNING THIS BUILDING INTO A HOTEL IS THE
ONLY WAY ITS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I'LL GIVE ONE ANECDOTE.
THIS BUILDING HAS A BASEMENT ON AN ISLAND.
ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE BUILDING, HVAC IS IN
THE BASEMENT.
IT DIDN'T FARE WELL.
THE BUILDING NEEDS HELP.
THE BUILDING NEEDS YOUR HELP.
THE HOTEL USE IN CONVERTING THIS BUILDING IS WHAT GIVES THIS
BUILDING A CHANCE TO HAVE A 200th ANNIVERSARY.
THAT IS THE DECISION YOU ALL HAVE TO MAKE.
WE HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY AND I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO
FRANK IN A SECOND WHO IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY, ALONG
WITH HIS WIFE LINDSEY, WE HAVE TALKED FROM THE BEGINNING
ABOUT THIS BEING A PROJECT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE

THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
THIS BUILDING WAS PURPOSE BUILT AS A HOTEL.
IT DOES NOT HAVE A FUTURE AS AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
THE COST OF THE RENOVATIONS FAR, FAR EXCEEDS THE INCOME THAT
AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL GENERATE HERE.
THAT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF FACT.
YOU CANNOT CONVERT THE BUILDING TO LUXURY CONDOS BECAUSE IT
WAS DESIGNED AS A HOTEL, A BOUTIQUE, SMALL-SCALE HOTEL IS
THE ONLY ECONOMICALLY VIABLE MEANS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION
FOR THIS BUILDING.
AND WE HAVE WORK -- FRANK AND LINDSEY HAVE WORKED HAND IN
HAND WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY FOR A LONG
TIME.
WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF FORMER COUNCILWOMAN
LINDA SAUL-SENA WHO HAS BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THE
PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING, ALONG WITH THE TAMPA BAY
COMMUNITY DESIGN CENTER WHO I VOTED AND I BELIEVE SENT IN A
LETTER OF SUPPORT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
I WOULD ASK THAT WHEN WE HEAR FROM FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES, YOU
BEAR IN MIND THAT YOU, COUNCIL, CONTROL THE POWER ON WHAT
HAPPENS HERE.
MAKING DECISIONS, GOVERNING BY IMAGINATION AND SCARE TACTICS
AND WORST-CASE SCENARIOS IS NOT ONLY IRRESPONSIBLE, IT'S THE
BIGGEST THREAT THIS BUILDING HAS EVER FACED IN ITS HUNDRED

YEARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FRANK TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS.
5:41:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
5:41:12PM >> FRANK CARRIERA.
MY WIFE LINDSEY AND I WE'RE PROUD DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENTS.
THIS IS WHERE WE LIVE AND RAISING OUR THREE SONS AND CHOSEN
TO INVEST OUR FUTURE.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT NOT JUST AS PROPERTY OWNERS BUT AS
NEIGHBORS AND STEWARDS OF A BUILDING THAT IS A HUNDRED YEARS
OLD.
OUR GOAL IS NOT MAXIMIZING DEVELOPMENT.
OUR GOAL IS PRESERVATION AND OUR VISION IS TO RETURN THE
MIRASOL TO THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE AS SMALL UPSCALE BOUTIQUE
HOTEL, RESPECTFULLY OPERATED AND REOPENED TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE MIRASOL WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AS A HOTEL AND REFLECTED
THE CHARM.
OVER TIME, IT JUST LOST ITS PURPOSE.
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ACCUMULATED, SYSTEMS AGED, STORMS TOOK
THEIR TOLL.
THE 2024 HURRICANES IMPACTED MAJOR STRUCTURAL, ELECTRICAL,
PLUMBING, FACADE, ROOF NEEDS.
EACH YEAR THAT PASSES MAKES RESTORATION HARDER AND HARDER
AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
PRESERVING HISTORIC BUILDING LIKE MIRASOL COSTS FAR MORE
THAN BUILDING SOMETHING NEW.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHY SO MANY HISTORIC HOMES WERE DEMOLISHED
AFTER THE 2024 STORMS.
IT SIMPLY DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS TO HOLD ON
ANYMORE.
WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE PRESERVATION OF THE MIRASOL WORK.
JUST LIKE THE HOMEOWNERS, THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY IS IN
THE LAND, NOT THE BUILDING.
OVER 20 YEARS, MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER HAS BEEN IN
MULTIFAMILY INVESTMENT SALES.
BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT A 1.6-ACRE
PARCEL ON DAVIS ISLAND, ON THE WATER IS WORTH TWO TO THREE
TIMES MORE WITHOUT THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAN WITH THEM.
ADDITIONALLY, I WAS PART OF THE LAST TWO SALES PROCESSES OF
THE BUILDING AND MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN
THE PROPERTY.
THE EASIEST AND MOST PROFITABLE PATH WOULD HAVE BEEN TO
ERASE THE HISTORY AND START OVER.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE.
LINDSEY AND I ARE NOT MIAMI OR NEW YORK DEVELOPERS CHASING
DENSITY OR PROFIT.
WE ARE A FAMILY THAT LIVES HERE AND OUR REPUTATION IS HERE.
FROM THE BEGINNING WE UNDERSTOOD THE PRESERVATION MEANT
WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, TWO AND
A HALF YEARS, AND WE MET WITH NEIGHBORS, HOSTED TOWN HALLS,
OPEN HOUSES AND LISTENED CAREFULLY.

WE MADE REAL CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WE HEARD.
PRESERVING THE MIRASOL UNDER THIS CURRENT LAND USE AND
ZONING IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE.
THIS REZONING WILL ALLOW THE BUILDING TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO
ITS ORIGINAL USE AS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL THAT SERVES THE
COMMUNITY.
IF THE REZONING DOES NOT PASS TONIGHT, I DO NOT KNOW HOW THE
RESTORATION WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE PLACE, WHICH WILL LIKELY
MEAN THAT THE LOSS OF THE BUILDING IS INEVITABLE.
SO TONIGHT, WE ASK YOU TO VIEW THIS DECISION THROUGH THE
LENS OF REALISM AND PRESERVATION.
CITY COUNCIL, THE TRUTH IS, LONG AFTER THIS NIGHT IS
FORGOTTEN, WILL YOU BE REMEMBERED FOR PRESERVING THE
BUILDING OR ITS INEVITABLE DEMISE?
5:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
5:44:26PM >> NO.
5:44:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT CONCLUDES THE APPLICANT'S
PRESENTATION.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:44:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY YOUR CLIENT WAS
TALKING ABOUT A REZONING WHEN WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A
REZONING RIGHT NOW.

5:44:46PM >> I THINK THERE IS --
5:44:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO ASK WHY YOUR CLIENT WAS
TALKING ABOUT A REZONING WHEN WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A
REZONING RIGHT NOW.
5:44:55PM >> WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING A BUILDING.
5:44:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LAND USE CHANGE RIGHT
NOW.
5:45:00PM >> CORRECT.
CAN I SPEAK?
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAVING A BUILDING.
COMP PLANS ARE POLICY DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL MAKE.
THEY ARE LEGISLATIVE POLICY DECISIONS.
SO DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT A BUILDING CAN BE RESTORED TO ITS
ORIGINAL HISTORIC USE, THAT IS VERY MUCH A POLICY DECISION.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SITE CONDITIONS AND PARKING.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CAN
LEGALLY BE ALLOWED TO GET CONSIDERED.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY MUCH APPROPRIATE.
I WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS CONFUSION ON THE POINT OF COMP
PLAN AND ZONING.
SO ONE THING THAT I FAILED TO MENTION IN MY SPEECH WAS THAT
I AM PUTTING ON THE RECORD, AND ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, THAT
IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TONIGHT IS MOVED TO A
SECOND READING AND THE ZONING IS DENIED, WE WILL WITHDRAW
THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT PRIOR TO THE SECOND READING.

WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN OBTAINING A NAKED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT FOR THIS PROJECT UNLESS IT IS APPROVED AND
ACCOMPANIED WITH AN IMPLEMENTING REZONING.
BUT I WOULD ASK FOR SOME GRACE ON BOTH SIDES ON THE COMP
PLAN ZONING POINT BECAUSE THESE ARE REALLY TECHNICAL POINTS.
THERE ARE FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES HERE WHO JUST REALLY LIKE THE
PROJECT OR REALLY DON'T LIKE THE PROJECT.
THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO KNOW THE FULL DIFFERENCE.
MY APOLOGIES FOR ANYTHING I DO.
I SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
BUT YOU'LL HEAR FROM FOLKS FROM WHOM THIS IS THEIR FIRST
TIME HERE, THEIR FIRST RODEO, AND THERE ARE SOME OVERLAPS
BETWEEN THE TWO.
THIS IS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE BEING AIMED AT AN HISTORIC
BUILDING THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS TODAY.
5:46:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
QUESTION FOR STAFF.
5:46:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK ACTUALLY CITY STAFF.
I APPRECIATE IT, MR. COLLINS.
MY QUESTION IS, IF THIS COMP PLAN GOES THROUGH, DO THEY HAVE
TO FIX THIS BUILDING?
5:47:17PM >> SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THEY DO NOT.
AS COUNCILWOMAN NOTED THIS IS A LAND USE CHANGE.
IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE RESTORATION, ANY TYPE OF HISTORIC

DESIGNATION.
IT ADDRESSES THE LAND.
WHETHER AS A POLICY MATTER COUNCIL THINKS IT IS A GOOD IDEA
TO CHANGE FROM EXISTING LAND USE TO REQUESTING LAND USE OF
CMU 35.
THERE ARE CRITERIA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DESCRIBE
ANY CHANGE TO IT AS A MAJOR POLICY DECISION AND SOME THINGS
COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE
EVALUATING A REQUEST SUCH AS THIS ONE.
THAT WAS A LITTLE --
5:48:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
5:48:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOLLOWING THAT, MR. HUDSON SAID THAT WITH
THE NEW ENTITLEMENT, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO
APPROVE WHATEVER WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER ZONING.
BUT JUST FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC, COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT
ELSE COULD BE -- TALKED ABOUT IT AS BEING A MENU OF ITEMS,
WHAT ARE THE OTHER MENU ITEMS UNDER THIS CATEGORY?
WHAT ELSE COULD BE PUT THERE?
5:48:28PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
5:48:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
5:48:43PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I WILL SAY -- SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT WOULD ALLOW ANY OF THE ZONING
CATEGORIES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CMU 35 OR ANY USES
THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE CMU 35.
I THINK MR. COLLINS CAN ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

5:49:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
5:49:03PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
SO, YEAH, THIS REQUEST WOULD INTRODUCE THE CONSIDERATION OF
THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT, AND JUST A FEW
DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED WOULD BE A
HOTEL, A MICROBREWERY, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, VET
OFFICE, VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.
THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TYPES OF USES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED
IN THE CG.
5:49:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
5:49:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. HUDSON SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE RITZ
CARLSON.
IF THIS BUILDING WAS NOT THERE, IF IT WAS CONDEMNED OR TORN
DOWN FOR WHATEVER REASON, COULD SOMETHING LIKE THE
RITZ-CARLTON BE BUILT THERE UNDER THIS CATEGORY?
5:49:55PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT?
5:49:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HUDSON SHOWED A PICTURE OF THE RITZ-CARLTON
AS BEING UNDER THE SAME CATEGORY.
IF THIS BUILDING WAS CONDEMNED OR TORN DOWN FOR WHATEVER
REASON, COULD A BUILDING LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON BE BUILT IN
ITS PLACE UNDER THIS CATEGORY?
5:50:10PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
IF THE CITY DEEMS THE RITZ-CARLTON AS
HOTEL, IT COULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE CMU.
5:50:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS, IF THIS HOTEL

PROPERTY -- THEY TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING, UNDER THE FUTURE
LAND USE CURRENTLY ENJOYED BY THIS PROPERTY, COULD YOU BUILD
SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO THE RITZ-CARLTON UNDER THE FUTURE
LAND USE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY?
CONDOS.
COULD YOU BUILD A CONDO TOWER OF THE SCALE OF THE
RITZ-CARLTON?
5:50:47PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
YEAH, SO CONDOS COULD BE CONSIDERED UNDER
THE RESIDENTIAL 50 AND CMU 35 CATEGORY.
AM I ANSWERING THAT CORRECTLY?
5:50:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK SO.
I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER.
MR. HUDSON, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.
THERE IS AN APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE REGISTERED ONLINE, BEN
DESHIPLY.
IS HE PART OF YOUR APPLICANT PRESENTATION?
NO.
OKAY.
I'LL CONSIDER HIM PUBLIC COMMENT.
VERY GOOD.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THE FUTURE LAND
USE?
HEARING NONE, WE WILL PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THEM FIRST.

THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE TODD PRESSMAN.
BEN DESHIPLY, ARE YOU ON AND CAN YOU HEAR ME?
NOT ON.
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
THEN WE HAVE ELIZABETH MURRAY.
ELIZABETH MURRAY, ARE YOU ON?
ELIZABETH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
5:52:08PM >> HELLO.
5:52:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AS WELL?
ELIZABETH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES.
5:52:20PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH MURRAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME AND SEE ME?
5:52:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
WE DON'T NEED TO SEE YOU.
YOU CAN PROCEED.
5:52:29PM >> PERFECT.
I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GROWING UP ON DAVIS ISLAND IN THE
'90s AND 2000s.
BACK THEN, THE ISLAND WAS MY PLAYGROUND.
I REMEMBER TOTAL FREEDOM OF GRABBING MY BIKE TO MEET FRIENDS
ACROSS THE ISLAND WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC
OR WALKING MY DOG AROUND THE BLOCK WITHOUT FEAR OF STRANGER
DANGER.

MY PARENTS DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY EITHER BECAUSE THEY KNEW
THAT THE ISLAND WAS A FAMILY FIRST, SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT TODAY I'M LOOKING AT THE ISLAND THROUGH A BIT OF A
DIFFERENT LENS.
I AM A NEW MOTHER.
IF YOU COULD SEE ME ON CAMERA, I'M HOLDING MY
THREE-MONTH-OLD SON.
SO AS I CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT THAT I WANT FOR HIM TO GROW
UP IN, I FIND MYSELF REFLECTING DEEPLY ON THE CHILDHOOD THAT
I HAD HERE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
AND I WANT HIM TO HAVE THAT SAME SENSE OF INDEPENDENCE I HAD
-- THE ABILITY TO EXPLORE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SAFE,
QUIET, AND PREDICTABLE.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSAL TO EXPAND AND CONVERT THE MIRASOL
APARTMENTS INTO A HOTEL CAN PUT THAT LEGACY AT RISK.
INTRODUCING POTENTIALLY 200 OR HUNDREDS OF TRANSIENT GUESTS
INTO A QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY SINGLE DAY
FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES THE NATURE OF THESE STREETS.
THE VILLAGE FEEL OF DAVIS ISLAND EXISTS BECAUSE WE ALL ARE A
COMMUNITY OF STAKEHOLDERS.
I REMEMBER AS A CHILD GETTING ICE CREAM AT JAVA AND CREAM
EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY AFTERNOON WITH MY BEST FRIEND AND THE
OWNER, DENNIS, KNEW OUR ORDERS BY HEART AND ALWAYS KEPT A
SPACE FOR US TO PLAY OUTSIDE, BUT AS I GREW OLDER, WE
SWAPPED JAVA AND CREAM IN THE AFTERNOON FOR TATE'S PIZZA AT

NIGHT AND OUR PARENTS ALLOWED US TO GO ALONE BECAUSE THEY
KNEW WE HAD A VILLAGE THERE WITH US.
WE HAD NEIGHBORS LOOKING OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD TRANSIENT VISITORS TO A SMALL ISLAND LIKE
DAVIS ISLAND, YOU ARE NO LONGER SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORS.
YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY STRANGERS.
HOTEL GUEST HERE FOR A NIGHT OR TWO HAS NO TIE TO OUR
HISTORY AND NO PERSONAL INVESTMENT IN THE WELL-BEING OF OUR
CHILDREN.
SO BY APPROVING THIS, WE WOULD BE TRADING OUR CHILDREN'S
PEACE OF MIND FOR COMMERCIAL EXPANSION.
MY CHILDHOOD SET THE STANDARD FOR WHAT I HOPE MY SON WILL
EXPERIENCE HERE.
I HOPE THAT THE NEXT GENERATION OF CHILDREN ON DAVIS ISLAND
WILL BE ABLE TO STAND HERE ONE DAY AND SAY THEY FELT THE
SAME WAY I DID, WITH A SENSE OF SECURITY AND FREEDOM IN THE
DAVIS ISLAND COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
5:54:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ELIZABETH.
MR. PRESSMAN.
5:55:06PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE DONATING TIME ARE
ON THEIR WAY UP.
5:55:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
5:55:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU INTEND TO USE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
5:55:18PM >> THEY ARE BRINGING IT UP.

THEY WERE ROUTED DOWNSTAIRS.
I SEE THEM HERE.
5:55:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT
USE OF SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS -- I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE
SIGNIFICANT USE OF SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS, AT LEAST THAT'S MY
ASSUMPTION.
IN ORDER TO EFFECTIVELY USE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, THE
PEOPLE WHO WAIVE THEIR TIME HAVE TO BE IN THE CHAMBERS.
5:55:47PM >> THIS IS THE SPEAKER FORM.
WOULD YOU LIKE IT?
5:55:59PM >> WE'RE BRINGING THEM UP.
5:56:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAUSE FOR ONE SECOND.
5:56:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
ON THE SECOND FLOOR, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO WAIVE YOUR TIME,
YOU HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR
PRESENCE WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED IN ORDER FOR THE SPEAKER
TO BE GIVEN AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR EACH OF THE THREE
MINUTES THAT YOU WAIVE.
I SEE THREE PEOPLE, FIVE NAMES ON THE LIST, TWO MORE COMING
IN.
5:56:38PM >> FOR THE I.T. PEOPLE, WE HAVE A PowerPoint.
IT IS PowerPoint NUMBER 1, PLEASE.
5:56:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WILL BE UP IN A MINUTE.
5:56:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SEE SOME PEOPLE IN FRONT OF ME.
IF YOU COULD ACKNOWLEDGE WHO YOU ARE, VIRGINIA JOHNSON.

THANK YOU.
ZELDA MUSSON.
THANK YOU.
CLAIR FREEDMAN.
THANK YOU.
JIM DAVIS.
THANK YOU.
MELISSA SPARK.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE, ADDITIONAL MINUTE EACH PLUS THE THREE
MR. PRESSMAN HAS WOULD BE A TOTAL OF EIGHT MINUTES.
IF I CAN JUST ALSO REMIND PEOPLE AND ALSO PARTICULARLY THE
PUBLIC, THIS BEING THE FIRST TIME THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM IS
BEING USED, YOU CAN ONLY APPEAR IF YOU ARE WAIVING YOUR TIME
ON ONE PERSON'S SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
YOU CANNOT WAIVE YOUR THREE MINUTES FOR MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.
JUST KNOW THAT IF YOUR NAME HAS BEEN CALLED, I'LL BE
RETAINING THESE AND HOPEFULLY THE NAMES SHOULD NOT APPEAR
AGAIN.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU WOULD DO THAT.
I WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, ESPECIALLY THOSE PEOPLE NOT
FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
THANK YOU.
5:57:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MARTY, SO PEOPLE WHO -- PEOPLE ON A WAIVER
FORM NOW AND THE NEXT ITEM, THAT'S PER ITEM, RIGHT?

THEY CAN ONLY BE ON A WAIVER FORM ONCE PER ITEM?
5:58:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONLY ON A WAIVER FORM ONCE PER ITEM.
REMIND COUNCIL AND I REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT THE ITEM BEFORE
YOU IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
IT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
THAT IS BEFORE YOU NOW.
ITEMS RELATED TO REZONING WILL BE DISCUSSED AGAIN FOR ITEM
NUMBER 2 WITH A DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND DIFFERENT SUBJECTS,
AND YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO BOTH ITEMS ONE
OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ITEM TWO, THE REZONING.
YOU COULD APPEAR ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM TWICE BECAUSE
SOMEBODY MIGHT GIVE IT TO YOU FOR ITEM ONE.
SOMEBODY MIGHT GIVE IT TO YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO.
5:58:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM TIME THAT THEY CAN
ASK FOR?
5:58:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEVEN PEOPLE CAN WAIVE THREE MINUTES FOR
SEVEN ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
EVERY PERSON HOLDING A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM IS ENTITLED TO A
MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES, ASSUMING THAT EVERY NAME IS CHECKED
OFF.
5:59:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T KNOW WHO -- WHAT THE OTHER THREE
PEOPLE ARE DOING HERE.
5:59:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU THAT DO NOT HAVE SEATS AND IF
YOUR NAME IS ALREADY CALLED FOR SPEAKER WAIVER, YOU CAN
RESUME YOUR SEATS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR PRESENCE.
5:59:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S EIGHT MINUTES, MADAM CLERK.
5:59:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO.
5:59:39PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS
TODD PRESSMAN, 200 SECOND AVENUE SOUTH, NUMBER 451 IN
ST. PETERSBURG.
I AM HAPPY AND PROUD TO REPRESENT AS AN AGENT ONE OF THE
ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS DIRECTLY AND WORKING WITH THE
HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS, CITIZENS, AND NEIGHBORS INDIRECTLY ON
THIS REQUEST.
I WANT TO START BY SHOWING YOU THAT THE ENTIRE PLANNING
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE RECOMMENDING
DENIAL.
THAT INCLUDES THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDING
DENIAL, THE CITY ZONING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDING DENIAL, AND
YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD AND YOUR APPOINTEES, OF
COURSE, INCLUDED VOTED UNANIMOUSLY IN DENIAL OF THIS
REQUEST, ALONG WITH STRONG IMPACTED COMMUNITY OPPOSITION
THAT YOU'LL HEAR A LOT FROM, INCLUDING THE SEVERAL RESIDENTS
ON DAVIS ISLAND WHO WERE GENEROUS ENOUGH TO DONATE THEIR
TIME.
AND THIS IS ONE MAPPING OF OPPOSITION FROM THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
TREMENDOUSLY UPDATED THAT WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU.
A WIDE RANGE OF PETITIONS AND SIGNATURES.

AND NOT JUST SIMPLE PETITIONS AND SIGNATURES AND LETTERS,
BUT REALLY IN-DEPTH FACTS AS WELL AS EMOTION.
BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE BAROMETER.
VERY SIMPLE BAROMETERS.
THIS IS A BUILDING COVERAGE INCREASE BY OUR MATH AT 254%.
THIS IS A 240% INCREASE PER OUR MATH OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS
PROPOSED UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED
UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE, PLUS MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL
USES.
THIS WOULD BE A 100% INCREASE IN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
AND TAKING ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION
OF PARKING BY 40%.
THAT EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY 163 PARKING SPACES.
THAT WOULD BE, BY MY MATH, SHORT OF ABOUT 66 PARKING SPACES
EVERY DAY, EVERY HOUR, SEEKING CLOSEST NEARBY PARKING, WHICH
DOESN'T INCLUDE STACKING FOR UBERS OR UBER EATS.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYBODY REALLY GOES AND GETS THEIR FOOD
ANYMORE.
I STILL DO.
STACKING FOR TAXIS, AND ACTIVITY AT A HOTEL.
THIS IS WHAT THE SITUATION IS NOW IN TERMS OF OVERFLOW ONTO
THE STREETS.
THIS IS ADALIA.
THESE ARE SOME OTHER STREET VIEWS THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE
THERE ALREADY IS PARKING ISSUES ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL

STREETS.
SO THE INCREASE CHANGE OF USE IS 58 APARTMENT UNITS.
UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD BE 118 HOTEL
ROOMS.
AND A COMMERCIAL USES, CONDOS, IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 130
NEW UNITS.
THIS IS A PARADIGM SHIFT OF USE FROM RESIDENTIAL, WHICH
WOULD THEN, AS THE STAFF TOLD YOU, WOULD INCLUDE COMMERCIAL
GENERAL USES.
I CONFIRMED THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE, MY UNDERSTANDING, EVENT
FACILITY, PARTIES, HOTELS, WEDDINGS, CORPORATE EVENTS, NEW
YEAR'S, HOLIDAYS, PARTIES, LOUD MUSIC, WEDDINGS, BAR
MITZVAHS, ET CETERA, ALLOW THE HOTEL, IT WOULD INTRODUCE
COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, BAR/LOUNGE WOULD HAVE THE ALCOHOL
USE REQUIRED.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATIONAL ASPECT, SITUATIONAL
ASPECT WITH THE MIRASOL YOU BEGIN TO SEE THAT THE IMPACT
WILL BE INTO SINGLE-FAMILY.
SO YOU CAN SEE SINGLE-FAMILY IS THE IMPACTED SOURCE AND
FOCUS.
BUT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE THIS
WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE A DOUBLE TAP.
YOU'RE USED TO SEEING IMPACTS OF PROJECTS TO HOMES NEXT DOOR
AND ON THE STREET.
IN THIS SCENARIO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BACKYARDS ARE A QUIET

RESIDENTIAL CANAL.
SO ALL THOSE INTENSITIES AND ALL THE INTENSIFICATIONS ON THE
FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT ARE GOING TO BE BOTH FELT ON THE
STREET, AT THE HOMES, AND IN THE BACKYARDS.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THIS QUIET RESIDENTIAL CANAL THAT
WILL BE IMPACTED.
THIS IS ONE SHOT OF IT.
THIS IS ANOTHER SHOT OF IT.
THAT'S WHY YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TOLD YOU AND THEY
REPORT TO YOU THAT LEAD TO MASSING AND SCALE CONCERNS.
THE SITE BORDERS A VERY LOW DENSITY AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, CMU 35 ALLOWS FOR CG COMMERCIAL USES.
THAT'S AGAIN, A PARADIGM SHIFT OF USES FROM RESIDENTIAL TO
YOUR MAIN COMMERCIAL CATEGORY.
THAT'S WHY YOUR CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN THEIR
RECOMMENDATION AND THEY REPORTED TO YOU THAT THEY HAVE
CONCERN FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY EXISTING AS I'VE SHOWN
YOU.
THEY SAY TO THE NORTH, WEST, SOUTHWEST WILL CHANGE THE
FABRIC OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
THIS IS THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
BUT HERE IS THE KICKER ON ZONING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT FUTURE
LAND USE CATEGORIES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CMU 35 NEXT TO R 6, THAT IS THE HIGHEST
CATEGORY ABUTTING THE VERY LOWEST CATEGORY IN THE ENTIRETY

OF DAVIS ISLAND.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYWAY ON DAVIS ISLAND.
THIS IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHART.
THIS IS ALL YOUR CATEGORIES OF FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
YOU'RE GOING FROM R-6, ONE OF THE LOWEST, CMU 35, ONE OF THE
HIGHEST, THAT IS A 14 CATEGORY JUMP.
AND HERE IS THE COMPARISON TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT TRADER JOE'S, SOMEWHAT INFAMOUS AND POINTED
TO AS BEING BUSINESS INTENSITY NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THEIR
CATEGORY JUMP IS FROM R-20 TO CMU 35.
THAT IS A 12 CATEGORY JUMP.
WHAT YOU WOULD APPROVE TONIGHT IN THE FUTURE LAND USE
CATEGORY IS A 14 CATEGORY JUMP.
EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES ARE MAJOR JUMPS.
SO THIS WOULD BE SETTING UP A FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT
IS, IN MY OPINION, FAR WORSE THAN WHAT YOU HEAR ABOUT AT
TRADER JOE'S AND THAT UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.
YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION NOTES ALSO THAT WHILE DAVIS ISLAND
DESIGNATES THE AREA AS A MIXED USE, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN FOR MIXED USE IS THREE BLOCKS AWAY.
IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MY FRIEND TYLER
HUDSON MADE, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THEY HAVE OWNED THE SITE I THINK FOR
FIVE YEARS.
YOU CAN FILE THE PAPERS TONIGHT.

YOU CAN FILE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FIVE YEARS AGO, TWO YEARS
AGO, WEEK AGO OR TONIGHT.
IN FACT, I ACTUALLY HAD THE PAPERS HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST, IN MY OPINION, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT
IS A BIT OF A TRANSPARENCY ISSUE.
I'VE ALSO HEARD, AGAIN, MR. HUDSON SAY, IN MY OPINION, MY
IMPRESSION, DON'T PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO THE LAND USE
AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE ZONING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
DON'T CONSIDER TOO MUCH OF THE LAND USE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO
GET TO THE ZONING SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING.
WITH THE GREATEST RESPECT TO HIM AND TO YOU, IN MY OPINION,
THAT WOULD REVERSE HOW YOU REVIEW FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENTS
IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
YOU CONCENTRATE AND APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT
FOR WHAT IT ALLOWS.
IF YOU AGREE WITH IT, THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THE CMU 15 -- OR THE CMU CATEGORY THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS
A CMU CATEGORY.
AND YOU HAVE TO JUDGE THAT AND EVALUATE IT.
SO WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND
CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE MANY FOLKS WHO ARE HERE THAT ARE RESIDENTS.
IN SUMMARY, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS TEN
POUNDS OF SUGAR IN A FIVE-POUND BAG.
WHEN YOU ASK FOR 40% REDUCTION IN PARKING, THAT BECOMES TEN

POUNDS OF SUGAR IN A THREE-POUND BAG.
AND THESE RESIDENTS AND THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE DECIMATED.
IT WILL FOREVER CHANGE THEIR COMMUNITY.
IT WILL, IN OUR OPINION, DESTROY IT, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE
TALLER, BIGGER, DEEPER, WIDER, THICKER, MORE DENSE ON THE
SAME SIZE PROPERTY.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION AND CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
6:07:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN.
JANE.
DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
6:07:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, YES, I DO.
6:07:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T YOU CALL THE NAMES.
IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS AND YOU HEAR YOUR NAME FOR MR. SHELBY,
WOULD YOU IMMEDIATELY COME UPSTAIRS TO BE RECOGNIZED SO WE
CAN ALLOCATE YOUR TIME?
MR. SHELBY.
6:08:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'LL TRY TO READ THESE.
VAL BLACK.
JEFF STARMAN WHO LIVES ON 545 L-A-D -- AVENUE, MICHELLE
DAVIES, JEFF HILLS, ED MOORE, REGINA SIEWERT, AND NANCY
WYNN.
6:08:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU READ THE NAME AGAIN, PLEASE?
6:08:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WASN'T WATCHING.
6:08:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF HE READ YOUR NAME, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR

NAME, PLEASE.
6:08:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD YOU STAND UP?
I SEE ONE PERSON.
6:08:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT WAS YOUR NAME?
6:08:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, I WILL CHECK YOU OFF,
MS. DAVIES.
6:09:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VALERIE BROWN.
6:09:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BLACK.
THANK YOU.
JEFF HILLS.
I'M SORRY.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO JEFF.
YOUR LAST NAME IS?
6:09:26PM >> HILLS.
78 ADALIA AVENUE.
6:09:29PM >> MOORE, 58 -- [INAUDIBLE]
6:09:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE?
MS. WYNN, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MS. -- IS THERE A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF JEFF,
FIRST NAME JEFF?
6:09:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO WE HAVE A JEFF THAT SIGNED A SPEAKER
WAIVER FORM DOWNSTAIRS?
6:09:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LAST NAME STARTS WITH S-T-A, I BELIEVE.
6:09:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JEFF S-T-A, POSSIBLY.

6:10:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GIVE IT A MINUTE.
6:10:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED, YOU CAN
GO BACK AND TAKE YOUR SEATS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JEFF IS COMING.
JEFF, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME?
6:10:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
SEVEN NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
6:10:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES.
6:10:37PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JANE GRAHAM, ATTORNEY AT SUNSHINE CITY LAW.
I REPRESENT JOHN AND ANA MURRAY, WHO HAVE LIVED AT 122
ADALIA AVENUE FOR OVER 30 YEARS, TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE
MIRASOL.
THE MURRAYS AGREE AND SUPPORT THE PROFESSIONAL
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY STAFF, COUNTY PLANNING STAFF, AND
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S 7-0 UNANIMOUS FINDING OF
INCONSISTENCY FOR THE LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT YOU ARE
CONSIDERING TONIGHT AND STRONGLY URGE YOUR DENIAL.
IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH NUMEROUS SECTIONS OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, DOUBLING THE EXISTING INTENSITY,
INTRODUCING A BROAD RANGE OF INCOMPATIBLE COMMERCIAL USES,
NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, SAFETY AND

CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AGGRAVATING SAFETY DURING
HURRICANE EVACUATIONS AND FLOODS.
MR. HUDSON SAID THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY ARE HERE TONIGHT
IS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE MIRASOL AS A BUILDING, BUT
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR, IT'S
DOUBLE THE INTENSITY AND THEY COULD BE ASKING FOR LOWER LAND
USE DESIGNATIONS TO STILL BECOME A HOTEL.
AS WE SIT IN A FULL HOUSE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE RECEIVED
HUNDREDS OF COMMENTS FROM BOTH FOR AND AGAINST, IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT LAND USE DECISIONS ARE NOT A
POPULARITY CONTEST, AND THEY MUST BE BASED ON SPECIFIC
CRITERIA IN BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY CODE AND STATE
STATUTES, AND THEY HAVE TO BE INTERNALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE DOCUMENT WHICH CONTROLS DEVELOPMENT
IN TAMPA.
THE LAND USE CHANGE MEANS THAT YOU ARE CHANGING THE AMOUNT
AND TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN OCCUR ON A PIECE OF LAND IN
A PERMANENT AND SIGNIFICANT WAY.
AS MITCHELL ALLUDED TO IN HER EARLIER COMMENTS, THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO THIS.
I WANT TO READ YOU A PORTION OF IT SO YOU GET PERSPECTIVE AS
THIS DISCUSSION GOES FORWARD TONIGHT.
AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN PARTICULAR IS A
DECLARATION THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN INITIALLY
SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION THROUGH

THOUGHTFUL ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO LONGER
APPROPRIATE.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGES NOT FUNCTIONALLY RELATED TO THE
OVERALL PURPOSES EXPRESSED IN THE MAP AND POLICIES CONTAINED
HEREIN COULD SERIOUSLY UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE MAP
AND OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF.
THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY, IT IS A STATED PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT
GROWTH AND CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOODS MUST BE MANAGED SO THAT
THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS PART OF THE CITY FORM IS
MAINTAINED AND ENHANCED.
OKAY, SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
LAND USE MAP AMENDMENTS ARE A BIG DEAL.
AND IN THIS CASE, YOU HAVE CLEAR AND UNANIMOUS
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT THIS IS
INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CITING AT LEAST 24
DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE CITY STAFF SAID IT BEST, THAT IT ACTUALLY CHANGES THE
FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THIS JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE BOUGHT
A PIECE OF LAND AND THEY HAVE A DREAM TO TURN IT BACK INTO A
HOTEL.
TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR FROM A VARIETY OF EXPERTS, INCLUDING
CHARLES GOATIER, LAND USE PLANNER WITH FIVE DECADES OF
EXPERIENCE, WHO HAS FOUND INDEPENDENTLY THE SAME FINDINGS AS
PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

AND HE WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO DEMONSTRATE LAND USE CHANGES
ARE SUPPORTED BY EXISTING FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND
THEY HAVE NOT SHOWN THAT EITHER.
YOU WILL HEAR FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, DREW ROARK, HOW THE
POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, WHICH COULD
POTENTIALLY DOUBLE THE INTENSITY AND CHANGE USE,
EXPONENTIALLY INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAFFIC.
NOW, LET'S STOP A SECOND, BECAUSE AS A LAND USE MAP
AMENDMENT, THIS IS LEGISLATIVE.
THIS IS DISCRETION.
THIS IS USING YOUR ABILITY AS LEGISLATORS TO THINK, WHAT IS
RIGHT FOR THE CITY?
AND THINK ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THE GEOGRAPHY.
IN THE BIG PICTURE, TRAFFIC ON DAVIS ISLAND IS WHERE TGH IS,
THE TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
THAT IS THE ONLY LEVEL ONE TRAUMA HOSPITAL IN THE TAMPA BAY
AREA.
WHEN YOU HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC GETTING BACKED UP, YOU
ARE REALLY PLAYING FIRE -- PLAYING WITH FIRE.
AND THERE IS A POTENTIAL CHOKE POINT AT THE NARROWEST AREA
OF THE ISLAND.
PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT FUNCTIONING OF SOME HOTEL.
IT'S A GEOGRAPHICALLY SIGNIFICANT PLACE.

THE APPLICANT HAS THE BURDEN TO SHOW THAT THE AREA HAS
CHANGED, JUSTIFYING THIS CHANGE.
IN THIS CASE, THEY ARGUE THAT IT IS FOR HISTORIC
PRESERVATION.
BUT AS HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED, NO HISTORIC PRESERVATION
HAS BEEN APPLIED FOR.
THERE ARE LOTS OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND A WHOLE MEDIA
CAMPAIGN ABOUT SAVING THE MIRASOL BUT TONIGHT THEY ARE NOT
ACTUALLY ASKING FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IN REALITY IS A LAND USE CHANGE
WHICH LITERALLY MORE THAN DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT
ON THE SITE.
WITH THE F.A.R. FROM ONE TO TWO.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REALITY, WHAT IS THE TRUE REALITY
HERE.
YOU WILL HEAR FROM LOTS OF SUPPORTERS THAT THEY WANT THE
MIRASOL AS A PLACE THEY CAN GO, A RESTAURANT, A NICE KIND OF
GATHERING PLACE, AND THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT UNDER R-50 RIGHT NOW.
AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEY INCLUDE
RESTAURANTS AND OTHER KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
NOW, THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT UNDER R-50, THEY REQUIRE
LOCATIONAL CRITERIA TO BE MET, MEANING THAT IT HAS TO BE
COMPATIBLE.

AND SO THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT IS THE MAGNITUDE OF
DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DOUBLE.
AS MR. GOATIER WILL EXPLAIN, IT IS THE SIZE OF THREE LARGE
GROCERY STORES THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
THIS IS CLEARLY MUCH MORE INVASIVE THAN, OH, IT'S A NICE
GATHERING PLACE.
THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CANNOT BE
OVERSTATED AND YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS NUMEROUS SECTIONS
THAT GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES THAT DO SPEAK TO THIS.
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LONGTIME RESIDENTS AND
QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INTRUSION.
THERE ARE ALREADY SOME INTRUSIVE USES THAT ARE STARTING TO
LINGER IN THROUGH AIRBNBs AND YOU'LL HEAR TESTIMONY OF
THAT TONIGHT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST STEP OF IT SHOWS IF IT IS
ALREADY INTRUSIVE, IF YOU ACTUALLY CHANGE IT INTO A FULL
TRANSIENT USE FOR HOTEL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SERIOUS
PROBLEMS.
THE POTENTIAL FOR A COMMERCIAL MARINA USE IS ALSO EXTREMELY
INVASIVE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR EVENTS, WEDDINGS.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING RECENTLY TONIGHT
AT LEAST.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE MIRASOL RIGHT NOW HAS 58 UNITS.
WHETHER YOU ACTUALLY CATEGORIZE THEM AS AFFORDABLE, THEY ARE

A PRICE POINT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO.
THEY ARE A SAFE, BEAUTIFUL PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO RENT.
WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE REZONING, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE,
I WOULD JUST SAY BY CHANGING IT TO THE CMU 35, YOU'RE
OPENING THE DOOR TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY TO
TAKE AWAY THE OPTION FOR THIS KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
THE FUTURE.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE DECISION.
YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE WHAT IS IN THE PUBLIC
GOOD.
AS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, GROWTH AND CHANGE IN
NEIGHBORHOODS MUST BE MANAGED SO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS
MAINTAINED AND ENHANCED.
CHANGING THIS 1.6-ACRE TO CMU 35 GET YOU THAT?
INSTEAD, IN THIS CASE, IT IS DEVELOPER DRIVEN BY AN
APPLICANT WHO BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WITH AN IDEA IN HIS HEAD,
BUT DID HE DO THE PROPER DUE DILIGENCE TO REALLY SEE WHAT A
HIGH RISK THIS WAS AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE UNANIMOUS
FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENCY?
PERHAPS THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE A LITTLE MORE DUE DILIGENCE.
THE IDEA OF SPOT ZONING, NOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ZONING
LAND USE, ONE OF YOUR CRITERIA IS IF SOMETHING IS AN
ISOLATED USE AND CMU 35, WHAT THE CITY FOUND IN THEIR
ANALYSIS IS THAT IT'S COMPLETELY ISOLATED.
AND THERE IS NO OTHER CMU 35 THAT'S LINKED TO IT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A MAP OF SOUTH TAMPA, YOU'LL SEE LARGE
TRACTS OF CMU 35 ALONG LIKE HENDERSON, AND THEY DO ABUT SOME
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, BUT THIS IS LIKE A VERY LARGE AREA THAT
HANGS TOGETHER VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
FINALLY, THE LAW DOESN'T SUBSIDIZE BAD BUSINESS DECISIONS ON
THE BACK OF EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO A LOT OF THOUGHT AND CARE HAS BEEN PUT INTO YOUR LAND USE
DESIGNATIONS ON DAVIS ISLAND, AND WE ASK THAT YOU DO NOT LET
THAT BE UNDONE BY THE WHIM OF A BUYER WHO IS TRYING TO
MAXIMIZE THEIR FINANCIAL INVESTMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS TO PUT INTO THE RECORD.
6:20:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN SUBMIT THEM TO MR. SHELBY, PLEASE.
6:20:39PM >> THANK YOU.
6:20:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT,
WHEN YOU CAME IN, YOU WERE ISSUED A NUMERICAL NUMBER.
WE'LL CALL YOU BASED ON YOUR NUMBER.
IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS 1 THROUGH 10, IF YOU WOULD LINE UP
AGAINST THE GREEN WALL HERE TO THE LEFT AND WE'LL CALL YOU
IN THE ORDER OF YOUR NUMBER.
MR. SHELBY.
6:20:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I AM SORRY TO BE ABLE TO INTERRUPT, BUT I'VE BEEN INFORMED
-- MS. GRAHAM, WOULD YOU PLEASE, IF YOU CAN, STEP TO THE
MICROPHONE.

6:21:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO THE PODIUM.
6:21:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD OTHER
PEOPLE WHO YOU WISH TO SPEAK.
6:21:27PM >> RIGHT.
WE HAVE CHARLES GOATIER.
6:21:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
6:21:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SPEAKER WAIVER
FORMS?
6:21:37PM >> YES, THEY DO.
6:21:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED A NUMBER IS WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING?
6:21:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE NUMBERS.
6:21:47PM >> ONE OF THEM DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
6:21:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT AFTER WE ARE FINISHED
WITH THE NUMBERS.
THE WAY THIS WILL GO, WE'LL CALL PEOPLE UP IN NUMERICAL
ORDER.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NEVER BEEN TO COUNCIL BEFORE.
WE START WITH OUR NAME FIRST FOR THE RECORD.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO COMPLETE.
IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, PLEASE BRING THAT TO OUR
ATTENTION AND WE'LL SUBMIT IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND BE ABLE TO
CALL FOR ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
ONCE YOU ARE COMPLETED SPEAKING, IN ORDER TO EXPEDITE -- WE
HAVE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT.

ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED SPEAKING, IF YOU'LL GO BACK DOWN TO
THE SECOND FLOOR AND TAKE A SEAT SO HE CAN SLOWLY EMPTY THIS
ROOM AND BRING THE NEXT GROUP UP AS SOON AS YOU ARE DONE, WE
WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BLUE BLAZER WITH THE COLORFUL SHIRT.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 2, HOLD ON TO YOUR
NUMBER WHEN YOU GO DOWNSTAIRS.
IF YOU ARE NOT PLANNING TO SPEAK AGAIN FOR THE REST OF THE
EVENING, PLEASE LEAVE YOUR NUMBER ON THE PODIUM.
6:22:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY ONLY HAVE TO SAY THEIR NAME, NOT THEIR
ADDRESS.
6:22:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T NEED YOUR ADDRESS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD SO THE CLERK
HAS YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD WHEN YOU START AND YOU'LL HAVE
THREE MINUTES.
6:23:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER, IF YOUR ADDRESS IS
RELEVANT, YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF YOUR STATEMENT.
YOU'RE NOT BEING PRECLUDED FROM SAYING YOUR ADDRESS.
JUST SAYING YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO.
UNLESS COUNCIL WOULD ASK YOU, UNLESS THAT IS RELEVANT FOR
THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
6:23:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:23:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO REMIND ALL SPEAKERS THAT AT THE 30
SECOND MARK, YOU'LL GET A YELLOW LIGHT WILL COME ON.

WHEN IT BEEPS THE FIRST TIME, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO
STOP.
WHEN FOLKS ARE NEW, IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE, THAT
CAN MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE STOP.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN GO ON UNTIL THE RED
LIGHT.
THEN THE RED LIGHT BEEP DOES NOT STOP UNTIL YOU DO.
6:23:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
REMINDER, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR ITEM ONE,
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
6:23:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU ARE ONLY HERE TO SPEAK TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ITEM
ONE.
WE'RE GOING TO START.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
6:24:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
6:24:03PM >> NO, SIR.
GRANT.
NICE TO MEET YOU ALL.
MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN ATTENDANCE WITH US TODAY, I
AM COMING TO YOU AS THE INSURANCE ADVISOR FOR THE MIRASOL
SINCE THE PURCHASE OF THE CURRENT OWNER.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DELINEATION BETWEEN A BUILDING
BUILT IN 1926 THAT HASN'T REALLY TAKEN ANY CODES INTO PLAY
WITH NEW ROOFS, NEW HURRICANE IMPACT WINDOWS AND NEW NUANCES
LIKE THAT.

I THINK A GOOD EXAMPLE IS HURRICANE IAN.
THERE WERE SOME PHOTOS THAT WERE QUITE TRAGIC OF NEWER HOMES
VERSUS OLDER HOMES.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OLDER HOMES WITH NEWER ROOFS AND NEWER
ROOFS AND NEWER WINDOWS DID NOT GET DAMAGED AS BAD AS ONES
THAT DID NOT.
IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN HERE, THERE'S CAPITAL THAT WOULD
NEED TO BE INJECTED INTO THIS HISTORIC BUILDING.
I BELIEVE THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN HAPPEN IS IT BECOMING A
HOTEL.
BETTER CONSTRUCTION LEADS TO MORE CAPACITY FOR CARRIERS.
SO I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF DAVIS ISLAND SHOULD TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THAT CARRIERS DO SEGMENT CAPACITY BY GEOGRAPHIC
REGIONS.
THEY LOOK AT LOSS RATIOS, OUTPUT IN THOSE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS
WHEN MAKING DECISIONS ON RATES, DEPLOYING THE CAPACITY, SO
BETTER CONSTRUCTION EQUALS LOWER LOSSES EQUALS MORE
COMPETITIVE RATE ENVIRONMENTS.
THE SECOND TOPIC THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS IS THE OVERALL
INSURANCE MARKET HERE IN FLORIDA AND HOW DEPRECIATION CAN
REALLY AFFECT AN INSURANCE BUYER AND THAT WAS THE EXACT
SITUATION HERE WITH BOTH THE WIND CLAIM AND ALSO THE FLOOD
CLAIM.
WE SAW SOME PICTURES OF THE BASEMENT EARLIER AND HOW THAT
PLAYS OUT ON A BARRIER ISLAND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO RECOUP

FLOOD LOSSES AND GET YOUR ELEVATOR SHAFT WORKING.
THIS PROPERTY NEEDS MONEY AND IT NEEDS HELP.
SIMILAR TO THAT, SINGLE STRUCTURE HAVE LARGER HURRICANE
DEDUCTIBLES BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE
BUILDING AT TIME OF LOSS, NOT THE ACTUAL CLAIM.
SO HERE, MIRASOL HAD A DEDUCTIBLE OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS,
RIGHT?
WHEN YOU THINK OF THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT REALLY HAS TO
HAPPEN TO GET TO A MILLION DOLLARS WHEN YOU INCLUDE
DEPRECIATION AS WELL, THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.
I GOT THE CALL WHEN THE CLAIM OCCURRED.
THEY SPRUNG INTO ACTION.
STILL, WITH DEPRECIATION AND HOW OUR CARRIERS RESPOND, IT'S
A VERY DIFFICULT SCENARIO TO ASSIST WITH AS THE BROKER.
IN CLOSING, OLDER STRUCTURES ON BARRIER ISLANDS ARE THE MOST
DIFFICULT TO INSURE.
SOMETIMES IT CAN BE IMPOSSIBLE AND ACTUALLY THE WAY THAT
THIS PROPERTY STANDS TODAY, IT DOESN'T EVEN MEET THE
CRITERIA TO BE INSURED BY CITIZENS.
YOU GUYS CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
6:27:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT IN NUMERICAL ORDER.
WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU HOLDING?
VERY GOOD.

2.
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
6:27:14PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS TODD JONES.
I'VE LIVED ON THE ISLAND SINCE 1994.
MY WIFE AND I DRIVE PAST THIS PROPERTY TWICE A DAY, AS DO
MANY OF THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM.
IN LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS SUBMITTED SO FAR, I HEAR A LOT
OF IFs AND POSSIBILITIES WITH A LACK OF DEFINITIVENESS
WHICH REALLY IS GOING TO RELY WITH YOU FOLKS ASSUMING ANY
CHANGE HAPPENS WHATSOEVER.
A LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS BY STATE LAW REQUIRED BEFORE A
ZONING CHANGE CAN BE MADE.
IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER EITHER OF THESE HAPPEN.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AT
THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND AREN'T REALLY SO MUCH TO DO WITH
THE MIRASOL AS THE HOSPITAL.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES AT THE HOSPITAL WHO PARK ON ADALIA WHO
CONTRIBUTE TO THAT PARKING CONGESTION.
EARLY IN THE MORNING, DURING RUSH HOUR AND AROUND 3:30, 4:00
THROUGH 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, ALL THE EMPLOYEES FROM TGH
ARE EITHER COMING ONTO THE ISLAND OR EXITING THE ISLAND.
THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION COMES FROM.
THE FACT THAT THERE ARE 58 UNITS NOW, DIVIDE THAT BY TWO,

YOU GET 116 HOTEL UNITS.
MOST HOTEL GUESTS ON THE ISLAND ARE GOING TO BE COMING FROM
THE AIRPORT TO PROBABLY VISIT LOVED ONES IN THE HOSPITAL OR
FAMILY ON THE ISLAND OR MAYBE IN HYDE PARK.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE UBERING.
THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS CAN WE GET SOME DEFINITIVE ANSWERS ON
WHAT THE PLAN REALLY IS GOING TO BE?
PERSONALLY, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE LAND USE CHANGE AND
DEPENDING UPON THE PARTICULARS AND SPECIFICS OF THE ZONING
CHANGE, THE PLAN FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, THAT'S WHERE THE
METAL IS REALLY GOING TO MEET THE ROAD.
THE FACT THAT THE HUDSON IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND
HAPPENED TO BE STILL USED AS A HOTEL BACK IN 1980 WHEN LAND
USE BECAME AN ISSUE, PURSUANT TO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE
MAKING THE REQUIREMENT, I WAS INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THAT
DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA AT THE TIME.
WHATEVER USE WAS IN PLACE AT THE TIME WENT UNDER THE PLAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
6:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
IF YOU ARE LEAVING, PLEASE REMEMBER TO LEAVE YOUR NUMBER AT
THE PODIUM.
6:30:24PM >> GOOD EVENING.
JOE HEFNER.
83 ADALIA AVENUE.

I'VE LIVED ON THIS BLOCK OF DAVIS ISLAND SINCE 1978.
I AM AN ARCHITECT.
MY FIRM HAS BEEN IN HYDE PARK FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
WHEN BUYING A PROPERTY IS BOUGHT AS-IS WITH CURRENT LAND
USES AND ZONING, YOU HAVE AN OWNERSHIP RIGHT TO USE THE LAND
TO THOSE STANDARDS.
THERE'S NO EXPECTATION OR LEGAL RIGHT TO A CHANGE IN THE
LAND USE OR A ZONING TO BENEFIT YOU FINANCIALLY.
IT IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S JOB OR THE CITY COUNCIL'S JOB
TO BAIL YOU OUT TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY.
THIS APPEARS WHAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DO TONIGHT.
CITY COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER SOME OF THESE QUOTES THAT YOU MADE
FROM APRIL 24, 2025, TO THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL.
CITY COUNCIL OPPOSES INTENSE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT
LIVES.
COUNCIL WARNS AGAINST OVERDEVELOPMENT AS HURRICANE SEASON
APPROACHES.
TAMPA CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT THE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IN ITS
COASTAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WARNED STAFF THAT ANY PLAN TO
OVERDEVELOP THE CHHA WOULD BE DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
THIS PROPERTY IS IN A CHHA COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
EVACUATION ZONE A AND FLOOD ZONE AE.
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DIRECTS FUTURE
DENSITY AWAY FROM THESE AREAS.

THE MIRASOL IS IN THE SMALLEST AREA OF LAND ON DAVIS ISLAND
BETWEEN HILLSBOROUGH BAY AND THE CHANNEL, WHICH SHOWS ON
THIS PICTURE HERE.
THAT'S ABOUT 300 FEET FROM ONE BODY OF WATER TO THE OTHER.
IT'S GOING TO GET STORM SURGE FROM TWO DIRECTIONS.
IF CHANGED TO A COMMERCIAL USE, IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO
FLOOD-PROOF THE PROPERTY MUCH LIKE TGH DID AND CREATE A DAM
EFFECT AND PUSH THE STORM SURGE DOWN THE STREET TO CREATE
MORE FLOODWATERS FOR THE RESIDENCES.
NO NEED FOR HOTEL ROOMS ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
THERE ARE 36 HOTEL ROOMS AT THE HOTEL ON SWANN, 188 ROOMS AT
THE EPICUREAN ON HOWARD, AND 48,000 HOTEL ROOMS IN DOWNTOWN.
THAT IS A TOTAL OF 48,224 HOTEL ROOMS WITHIN A MILE OF
MIRASOL.
IN ADDITION, MOST LARGE HOMES ON DAVIS ISLAND HAVE MORE
BEDROOMS THAN PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOMES.
WHAT IS NEEDED EXACTLY IS WHAT MIRASOL IS NOW AND HAS BEEN
FOR THE PAST 75 YEARS.
AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS ALWAYS IN DEMAND ON DAVIS ISLAND.
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WITH GOOD INCOMES THAT WORK AT
TGH AND WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK TO WORK.
THIS WOULD HELP TRAFFIC ALL OVER TAMPA AND SAVE SHUTTLE
BUSES.
WITH THE PHOTOS OF GRIDLOCK IN MIND THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY
FROM BETWEEN 3 AND 4, CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO DOUBLE THE

GRIDLOCK WHEN THIS APPROVED BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT
TAMPA GENERAL OPENS UP.
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A CHILD OFF THE ISLAND FOR PALMA
CEIA LITTLE LEAGUE GAME, DANCE LESSONS, DOCTORS OR
AFTER-SCHOOL EVENT.
1992, AFTER HURRICANE ANDREW, THE STATE WOKE UP WITH A NEW
FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
6:33:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
6:33:40PM >> HELLO.
6:33:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, IF YOU COME BACK FOR ITEM 2, YOU
CAN GO DOWNSTAIRS SO WE CAN CLEAR OUT THE ROOM.
6:33:47PM >> LEAH PEARLMAN.
FOR A LITTLE OVER A DECADE NOW, I HAVE LIVED ON DAVIS
ISLANDS WITH MY SPOUSE AND OUR THREE CHILDREN.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE
APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE LAND USE TO ALLOW THE MIRASOL TO
RETURN TO AN UPSCALE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THE ISLANDS, IT'S PROBABLY NO
SHOCK TO YOU THAT I LOVE LIVING THERE.
IT HAS EVERYTHING MY FAMILY NEEDS.
I TAUGHT MY KIDS TO RIDE BIKES ON SAFE STREETS, WATCH THE

DOGS SPLASH IN WATERS, EVEN GAVE BIRTH TO ALL MY CHILDREN AT
THE HOSPITAL.
IT HAS EVERYTHING WE NEED EXCEPT FOR HOTEL.
WHEN MY SON WAS BORN AT TGH, FIRST GRANDBABY ON MY SIDE AND
MY FAMILY WAS ON THE FIRST FLIGHT OUT, CROSSING THE DAVIS
ISLANDS BRIDGE BEFORE I WAS EVEN DISCHARGED.
MY HOME COULD NOT ACCOMMODATE ALL THOSE NEWLY MINTED AUNTS
AND UNCLES AND GRANDPARENTS.
HOW SPECIAL WOULD IT HAVE BEEN IF THEY COULD HAVE STAYED AT
THE MIRASOL.
THEY COULD HAVE WALKED TO TGH TO MEET THEIR GRANDSON.
THEY COULD HAVE BORROWED OUR BIKES TO JOIN US HOME DURING
THOSE EARLY DAYS IN A WAY THAT DIDN'T ADD STRESS TO AN
ALREADY EMOTIONAL TIME.
I WISH THERE WAS A HOTEL ON D.I. THEN, A SENTIMENT I RELIVE
EVERY TIME MY FAMILY DESCENDS FOR HOLIDAYS, BIRTHDAYS, AND
SPECIAL OCCASIONS.
A BOUTIQUE HOTEL WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT NOT JUST FOR
RESIDENTS BUT ALSO FOR FAMILIES OF PATIENTS AT TGH WHO
DESPERATELY NEED COMFORTABLE ACCOMMODATIONS NEARBY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT BRINGING THE
MIRASOL BACK TO FORMER GLORY.
CONCERNS ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
I'M NOT CONCERNED.
PUTTING ASIDE THE SURVEYS CONDUCTED BY EXPERT TRAFFIC

ENGINEERS AND THE REVISED PLANS AND RESEARCH CONDUCTED TO
ENSURE MINIMAL IMPACT ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND RESIDENTS, I
TRUST THE INTENTIONS OF THE FAMILY THAT MANAGES THIS
PROPERTY.
THEY ARE DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENTS, TOO.
LIKE ME, THEY DRIVE PAST THIS PROPERTY EVERY DAY ON THEIR
RIDE HOME AFTER PICKUP FROM THEIR SCHOOLS.
THEIR KIDS ALSO LEARN TO RIDE THEIR BIKES ON THE STREETS.
THEY HAVE A DEEPLY PERSONAL STAKE IN PRESERVING THE SAFETY,
CHARM AND LIVABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS NOT A DISRUPTION.
IT IS A RESTORATION.
THEY ARE COMMITTED TO RETURNING THE MIRASOL TO THE ORIGINAL
USE, IMPROVING THE SUSTAINABILITY, ADDRESSING LONG-STANDING
FLOODING ISSUES AND CREATING A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY ORIENTED
SPACE THAT HONORS THE HISTORY AND CHARACTER OF THE ISLANDS.
THERE ARE SO MANY REASONS THAT I LOVE RAISING MY FAMILY ON
DAVIS ISLANDS, THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY, UNIQUE TEXTURE OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WALKABILITY, THE RICH HISTORY.
THE PLANS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT REFLECT THOSE VERY VALUES.
THEY WILL NOT CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLANDS.
THEY WILL ENHANCE IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.
6:36:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

6:36:31PM >> I DO HAVE A WAIVER FORM.
6:36:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR?
THE NAME ON THE SPEAKER, TWO NAMES, SARAH SPICOLA AND SHEILA
SPICOLA.
SARAH IS HERE AND SHEILA IS HERE.
THAT'S TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
6:37:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER NUMBER?
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER ON YOU?
THANK YOU FOR COMING UP.
YOU CAN GO BACK DOWN AND SIT ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
6:37:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIVE MINUTES TOTAL.
6:37:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
6:37:31PM >> VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
MY NAME IS ANDREW SPICOLA.
I AM A RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND.
I LIVE ON BALTIC, ONE OF THE TWO STREETS THAT WILL BE
AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE.
I WAS BORN AT TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
LIVED THERE FOR 56 YEARS.
MY MOTHER, WHO THANKFULLY JUST LEFT WAS BORN THERE AS WELL
AND BEEN THERE FOR 83 YEARS.

PROBABLY WOULD KILL ME IF SHE HEARD THAT.
MY FATHER OF 89 YEARS LIVES ON DAVIS ISLAND.
MY THREE CHILDREN, 27, 25, AND 23 WERE ALL BORN AND RAISED
AND LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND NOW.
MY WIFE HAS LIVED THERE WITH ME FOR 30 YEARS OR SO.
SAFE TO SAY WE LIKE DAVIS ISLAND.
OUR FAMILY WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE.
WE LIKE ITS CHARACTER.
WE LIKE THE WAY IT IS.
UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE SEEN
PRETTY DRAMATIC CHANGES TO THE CHARACTER OF DAVIS ISLAND.
OBVIOUSLY, THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL SPACE HAS
INCREASED WITH INTENSITY.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TRAFFIC,
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED OUR TRAFFIC.
EACH DAY I LEAVE DAVIS ISLAND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3:30 AND
5:00 TO GO TO THE YMCA IN SOUTH TAMPA ON HIMES.
DEPENDING ON HOW EARLY I LIVE AND DEPENDING ON THE SHIFT
CHANGE AT THE HOSPITAL, SOME DAYS IT TAKES ME 15 MINUTES
JUST TO GET OFF THE ISLAND.
OTHER DAYS, IT TAKES 25 MINUTES.
THAT'S SIMPLY TO LEAVE MY HOME ON BALTIC, GO DOWN DAVIS,
CROSS THE BRIDGE AND LOOP BACK ON TO BAYSHORE.
IMAGINE, 15 TO 25 MINUTES EVERY DAY.
NOW, THERE WILL BE OTHER FOLKS THAT COME UP BEHIND ME THAT

HAVE MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND SO FORTH, BUT
ONE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WAS TOSSED AROUND AT THE LAST
MEETING WAS A 4200% INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO
VISIT THE MIRASOL.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE DIFFERENCE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE TO ALL
OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
A 4,000 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE TRAFFIC.
I WOULD PROBABLY EQUATE US TO SOMETHING LIKE GASPARILLA
WHERE IT TAKES AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET OFF OF DAVIS ISLAND
BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT EVERYBODY THAT I'M HERE THAT I
JUST MENTIONED THAT I REPRESENT, DO NOT WANT THAT.
WE DON'T WANT OUR ISLAND TO BE TURNED INTO A TRAFFIC JAM.
ONE MORE THING ABOUT A HOTEL, HOTELS DON'T CLOSE AT 7:00 AT
NIGHT OR 10:00 AT NIGHT.
THEY ARE OPEN ALL NIGHT.
THE TRANSIENT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO KEEP COMING ALL NIGHT
LONG.
THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
NOW, YOU CERTAINLY KNOW YOUR DUTIES BETTER THAN I DO IN YOUR
JOB.
I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY IT'S NOT THE CITY OR THE RESIDENTS'
JOB TO BAIL OUT FOLKS WHO MAKE A BAD INVESTMENT.
IT'S ALSO NOT OUR JOB TO BAIL OUT AN INSURANCE COMPANY SO
THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY AND GET BETTER PREMIUMS ON THAT

INVESTMENT.
THIS MEETING IS TO SIMPLY DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S
GOING TO HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE RESIDENTS AND
DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR IS RS 6, THE LOWEST DESIGNATION ON DAVIS
ISLAND.
SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT WILL.
BEFORE I LEAVE, IMAGINE, PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES OR MY
MOTHER'S SHOES OR MY WIFE'S SHOES, IMAGINE IF SOMEBODY CAME
TO YOU AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BUILD
114,000 SQUARE FOOT HOTEL WITH 118 ROOMS AND 12 CONDOMINIUMS
AND TWO PARKING GARAGES AND TWO RESTAURANTS AND WHO KNOWS
HOW MANY BARS, ACCESS FROM THE WATER TO THE SAME SPACES,
IMAGINE HOW YOU WOULD FEEL.
IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE PERSON THAT LIVES TEN DOORS DOWN THAT
HAS TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING ISSUE ALREADY BEFORE INCREASING
THE 4,000 PERCENT ATTENDANCE OF THAT BUILDING.
IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE PERSON FIVE DOORS DOWN OR TWO DOORS
DOWN.
IMAGINE IF YOU ARE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR
THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THAT NOW.
IMAGINE WHAT THAT DOES TO THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, TO THEIR
HOME, TO THEIR VALUES.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN
CONFIDENTLY SAY AND HONESTLY SAY THAT THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF YOU ARE IN YOUR SHOES.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
6:41:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
THREE MINUTES.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:42:05PM >> GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS ROSANNA BREA.
I WAS BORN AT TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL ON DAVIS ISLANDS AND
HAVE SPENT MUCH OF MY LIFE CONNECTED TO THIS COMMUNITY.
ALTHOUGH MY FAMILY NO LONGER RESIDES ON THE ISLAND DUE TO
THE HURRICANE, MY HUSBAND AND I REMAIN DEEPLY INVESTED AS
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE DAVIS ISLAND VILLAGE.
MY HUSBAND IS A PROUD VETERAN AND TOGETHER WE OWN A LUXURY
BOUTIQUE.
WE'RE ALSO PROUD PARENTS OF TWIN BOYS WHO ARE 11.
WE'RE ALSO FOUNDING MEMBERS OF DIVA, THE DAVIS ISLANDS
VILLAGE ASSOCIATION.
WE CREATED DIVA SO BUSINESS OWNERS COULD FINALLY HAVE AN
INDEPENDENT VOICE RATHER THAN HAVING OTHERS SPEAK ON OUR
BEHALF USING INACCURATE INFORMATION.
I AM HERE TODAY TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY IN SUPPORT OF TA/CPA
24-18, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS VOTE IS FOUNDATIONAL TO PRESERVING THE MIRASOL.
THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT APPROVE A PROJECT.

IT DOES NOT APPROVE A BUILDING.
IT SIMPLY ALLOWS HOTEL USE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A PROPERTY
THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AS A HOTEL AND ALREADY EXISTS.
OPPOSITION HAS ATTEMPTED TO PREVENT THIS FROM MOVING FORWARD
BY USING EXAGGERATED DENSITY CLAIMS, HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIOS
AND WORST-CASE OUTCOMES THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST.
CMU 35 DESIGNATION ALREADY EXISTS ON DAVIS ISLANDS AND HAS
NOT DESTROYED THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND DESPITE CLAIMS TO
THE CONTRARY.
WHAT HAS DAMAGED OUR COMMUNITY IS THE SPREAD OF MISLEADING
INFORMATION AND FEAR-BASED TACTICS.
FEAR IS NOT FACTUAL.
THEY ARE NOT FACTS.
HURRICANE HELENE DEVASTATED DAVIS ISLANDS.
SOME BUSINESSES NEVER RETURNED.
OTHERS, INCLUDING OURS, FLOODED JUST DAYS BEFORE OPENING OUR
DOORS AND FOR THE RECORD, ZERO INSURANCE RELIEF.
MANY ARE BARELY SURVIVING.
TO DENY RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT, ADAPTIVE REUSE, AND ECONOMIC
RECOVERY AT A TIME LIKE THIS, IT'S NOT PRESERVATION.
IT IS STAGNATION AND DESTRUCTION.
EVEN MORE TROUBLING HAS BEEN THE PATTERN OF HARASSMENT,
BULLYING, CHARACTER ATTACKS AIMED AT THOSE WHO SUPPORT THIS
EFFORT, BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE HAD WORDS PUT IN THEIR MOUTHS
AND DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN WRONGFULLY ACCUSED OF BY

INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND TRULY THE HARDSHIPS FACING
THE MIRASOL AND ITS PRESERVATION.
FEAR OF CHANGE SHOULD NOT RESULT IN CHARACTER ATTACKS OR
RETALIATORY CONDUCT AGAINST SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN DAVIS ISLANDS, NOT JUST
FOR TODAY, BUT FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN.
PRESERVATION MEANS ALLOWING HISTORIC BUILDINGS TO ADAPT SO
THEY CAN SURVIVE.
THIS PLAN EXACTLY ALLOWS THAT.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE YES TO TA/CPA 24-18 BASED ON
THE FACTS, SOUND PLANNING PRINCIPLES, AND THE LONG-TERM
HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP.
6:44:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS 20 OR BELOW, IF YOU WOULD LINE UP
AGAINST THE WALL TO THE LEFT AND START WITH THE NEXT CYCLE.
YES, SIR, START WITH YOUR NAME.
6:45:05PM >> MY NAME IS ADAM HARDEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE AS ALWAYS.
6:45:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN, PLEASE.
START OVER AGAIN, PLEASE.
EVERYBODY, KEEP YOUR VOICES DOWN.
WE HAVE A MEETING.
NO TALKING.
6:45:22PM >> ADAM HARDEN.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE AND FOR LISTENING TO MY
OPINIONS.
I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK ON THIS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROJECT AT ALL, BUT I
DID GROW UP JUST OVER THE BRIDGE, 713 SOUTH FIELDING AND
SPENT MUCH OF MY FORMATIVE YEARS ON THE ISLAND, SEA
SCALLOPED AT THE END OF THE ISLAND.
PROBABLY RODE BY THIS BUILDING A THOUSAND TIMES AS A YOUNG
KID.
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS GREW UP JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM
THE BUILDING.
I DO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF PASSION HERE AND HOPEFULLY AT
THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER TOUGH DECISION YOU GUYS MAKE,
THAT EVERYBODY COMES TOGETHER AROUND THIS.
I HOPE THAT MOST EVERYBODY AGREES THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THE
BUILDING GET SAVED.
TO THAT POINT, I THINK, IN MY OPINION, I WOULD SUPPORT THE
LAND USE AMENDMENT AS A MEANS TO DO THAT.
I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A TEAM AND A DEVELOPER WHO HAS
MADE A COMMITMENT TO RESTORE THIS BUILDING, SOME
PROFESSIONALS SUPPORTING HIM, INCLUDING ALFONSO DESIGN, THE
RIGHT TEAM TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
I THINK IT IS A HEAVY LIFT FINANCIALLY TO BE ABLE TO
RENOVATE THIS BUILDING, AND THAT IT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE A
HOTEL AND LIKELY LOSE IT IF THEY DON'T GET THE COMPREHENSIVE

LAND USE AMENDMENT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF HYPERBOLE, EXAGGERATIONS AND, AGAIN, I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING GET SAVED.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE EXISTING ZONING -- HERE IS WHAT WE GOT
AFTER A CONTENTIOUS ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AT THE CORNER OF
DE SOTO AND BAYSHORE.
SO IN SUMMARY, 70 HIGH-END CONDOS, 172,000 SQUARE FEET,
AVERAGE OF 240 -- 24 HUNDRED AND 61.
IDEA THAT CMU 35 IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN LAND USE IS
FACTUALLY INACCURATE.
IT IS A CHANGE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA INCLUDES -- I MEAN,
I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD NEED TO LOOK UNDER THE HOOD OF THAT
AND VOTE NO ON THE SECOND READING OF THE COMP PLAN IF YOU
DON'T LIKE WHERE IT IS GOING.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD TAKE THIS BUILDING
AND DESIGNATE A LANDMARK IN ADVANCE OF HAVING A LAND USE
THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO -- YOU KNOW, TO RENOVATE IT IN A WAY
THAT'S FINANCIALLY VIABLE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE CONDITIONS
I READ IN THE ZONING 16 ARE THAT THEY ARE COMMITTING TO
DESIGNATE IT A LANDMARK.
OUR DECISION AND I WISH YOU GUYS LUCK IN YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I DO THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM TO GET IT DONE IF THAT IS
THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING.
6:48:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
6:48:40PM >> GOOD EVENING.
I DO HAVE SOME -- ALSO, I HAVE A PowerPoint.
6:48:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIR, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE A
PowerPoint.
DID YOU SUBMIT THAT AHEAD OF TIME FOR PRESENTATION?
6:48:58PM >> YES, SIR.
6:48:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:49:01PM >> YES, SIR.
MY NAME IS CHARLES GOATIER.
6:49:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE
NAMES ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS AND HEAR YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP TO
BE ACKNOWLEDGED SO YOUR TIME CAN BE DONATED TO THE NEXT
SPEAKER.
6:49:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU COULD JUST SAY YOUR NAME IF YOU ARE
IN THE ROOM, PLEASE.
PAM ANTANORI.
THANK YOU.
CAROL FISHMAN.
THANK YOU.
VERA FARMAN.
6:49:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERA FARMAN, IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS, PLEASE
COME UPSTAIRS.
6:49:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BOBBIE O'BRIEN.

6:49:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE BOBBY.
6:49:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JEAN WOLF.
THANK YOU.
PAT WOLF.
THANK YOU.
JOHN HOWTON.
6:49:47PM >> HERE.
6:49:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
I BELIEVE WE ARE WAITING FOR VERA FARMAN.
6:49:56PM >> VERA FARMAN.
6:49:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS
AND HAVE A SEAT.
6:50:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEVEN NAMES.
TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
6:50:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN START WITH YOUR NAME AND HOW MANY
MINUTES?
6:50:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TEN.
6:50:17PM >> YES, SIR.
I COULD USE HELP GETTING TO THE PowerPoint.
6:50:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR PRESENTATION IS ON.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTROL IT.
WE SEE THE SCREEN WITH THE LAND USE UP THERE.
6:50:33PM >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS AN HONOR TO APPEAR HERE.
MY NAME IS CHARLES GOATIER.

I AM A PLANNER.
I DON'T QUITE HAVE 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
48 IS PLENTY ENOUGH.
I WAS ASKED BY JOHN AND ANA MURRAY TO ANALYZE THIS
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH I'VE DONE.
I PRODUCED A REPORT, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU THAT GOES
INTO SOME DETAIL.
LET ME QUICKLY TOUCH ON MY BACKGROUND.
I AM HIGH MILEAGE.
MY CAREER HAS BEEN DIVIDED INTO THIRDS ROUGHLY.
A THIRD IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, A THIRD IN STATE GOVERNMENT, A
THIRD IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
I DID SERVE AS PLANNING MANAGER FOR COLLIER COUNTY, ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR FOR LEE COUNTY.
I WAS THE SENIOR OFFICIAL AT THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY
AFFAIRS.
FOR 17 YEARS I APPROVED 3,000 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
PACKAGES.
YOU ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOMEONE WHO HAS APPROVED MORE
DEVELOPMENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO.
I WORKED ON MY OWN THE LAST 12 YEARS.
I'M THE THIRD PROFESSIONAL PLANNER YOU'VE HEARD FROM THIS
EVENING.
AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME CONCLUSION.
THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT'S SIMPLY INCOMPATIBLE.
IT'S TOO MUCH.
IT'S WAY TOO MUCH OF A LAND USE CATEGORY IN THE SETTING.
I THINK THAT SETTING IS CRUCIAL.
THE EMERGENCY SHOWS IT IS ALL RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING THE
MIRASOL SITE.
SINGLE-FAMILY UP AND DOWN THE WATERWAY IMMEDIATELY TO THE
NORTH AND ACROSS DAVIS BOULEVARD, IT'S MORE MULTIFAMILY OR
TOWN HOUSE, BUT IT IS SIMPLY A SEA OF RESIDENTIAL USE THAT
THE MIRASOL IS WITHIN.
SO THAT'S LIKE THE CRUCIAL FACTOR IN THIS REVIEW.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD ADD A MASSIVE AMOUNT
OF DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IMPORTANT.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT, YOU'RE MAKING A MAJOR POLICY
DECISION SAYING, THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT IS POTENTIALLY
OKAY WITH US, SUBJECT TO ZONING.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION.
WHAT WOULD THE CHANGE BE FROM R-50 TO MIXED USE 35?
WELL, A 200% INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL FLOOR AREA, UNDER THE
PRESENT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, YES, YOU COULD HAVE
COMMERCIAL OFFICE AT 1.0 F.A.R.
THIS WOULD BUMP IT TO A 2.0 F.A.R., IT WOULD DOUBLE IT, AND
IT WOULD UP THE USES.
IT WOULDN'T BE OFFICE.

IT WOULD BE GENERAL, COMMERCIAL, AND RETAIL.
THAT IS A DOUBLE INTENSIFICATION.
THE HOTEL POTENTIAL, I ESTIMATE IT AT 285 HOTEL UNITS ARE
POTENTIALLY POSSIBLE USING THE 2.0 FLOOR AREA RATIO.
NOW THAT IS AN ESTIMATE.
IT IS AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE THE SIZE OF HOTEL ROOMS COULD
VARY.
SMALLER ROOM, YOU MIGHT HAVE A BIGGER NUMBER.
BIGGER ROOMS, MORE COMMON AREA, A LESS NUMBER.
BUT THAT IS THE DEGREE OF HOTEL POTENTIAL THAT IS MADE
AVAILABLE.
RESIDENTIAL USE, USING THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO METHOD, IT
WOULD BUMP UP BY ABOUT 36%.
AGAIN, IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, AS I SAID.
IT'S MASSIVE.
MY CONCLUSION IS THE TYPE AND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT UNDER CMU
35, IT'S PATENTLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT AND NEARBY
RESIDENTIAL USES.
WE SEE THAT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS RESIDENTIAL.
IN FACT, THE CURRENT CMU 35 IS AN ABERRATION.
IT'S LIKE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT SURROUNDS IT.
THIS WOULD STEP IT UP NOT ONE STEP BUT MULTIPLE STEPS IN
INTENSITY.
THE AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY CONFLICTS WITH PLAN AMENDMENT

REVIEW CRITERIA, I THINK CITED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF AND YOUR OWN STAFF.
THERE ARE PLAN AMENDMENT REVIEW CRITERIA THAT SAYS A LAND
USE CATEGORY OF SIMILAR DENSITY OR INTENSITY MUST BE LOCATED
ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
THERE'S NOTHING SIMILAR TO THIS ON ANY SIDE.
MS. GRAHAM REFERRED TO SPOT ZONING, WELL, THIS IS SORT OF
SPOT PLANNING WHAT IS BEING CONTEMPLATED HERE.
MY CONCLUSION REVIEWING THIS, OF COURSE, I'M FAMILIAR
LOOKING AT THIS FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE, THE AMENDMENT IS
NOT BASED ON RELEVANT AND APPROPRIATE DATA AND ANALYSIS.
THIS UPWARD DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL WAS NOT RECOGNIZED AND
ASSESSED.
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD, YES, IT'S IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA, IT'S CERTAINLY SUBJECT TO FLOOD.
THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION IS 11 FEET ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE POLICIES IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT SAY DIRECT
POPULATION CONCENTRATION AWAY, NO NET INCREASE WITHIN.
SO IT CONFLICTS IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL.
I'LL JUST ADD, ONCE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT IS PUT
IN PLACE, LATER PRESUMABLY YOU'LL TALK ABOUT A ZONING
CHANGE, THAT'S ONE VERSION OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
THERE COULD BE OTHER VERSIONS THAT HAPPEN SOMEWHERE ALONG

THE WAY.
JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS -- THE COMPATIBILITY.
YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY IN YOUR PLAN THAT SAYS ALL
PROPOSED GENERAL COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND
RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES SHALL -- SHALL BE COMPATIBLE WITH
EXISTING SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
YOU HAVE A DEFINITION OF COMPATIBILITY IN YOUR PLAN, AND ONE
OF THE ELEMENTS OF COMPATIBILITY INCLUDE SCALE, MASS, AND
BULK OF STRUCTURES.
SO WE'RE SETTING UP A SCENARIO WHERE THE SCALE, MASS, AND
BULK OF STRUCTURES COULD BE QUITE EXPANSIVE TO THE POINT
WHERE IT'S NOT IN HARMONY WITH IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT
SINGLE-FAMILY USES OR THE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
MS. GRAHAM MENTIONED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALSO IN MY REPORT,
I MENTIONED THAT.
I THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT.
RIGHT NOW, THE MIRASOL DOES PROVIDE SOME DEGREE OF HOUSING
AVAILABLE TO MIDDLE INCOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD DISAPPEAR
HERE.
BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PUTTING INTENSE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA,
AND MY CONCLUSION IS IT'S SIMPLY INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE.

6:58:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:58:32PM >> GOOD EVENING.
I HAVE SPEAKER FORMS AS WELL.
SINCE WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE, I THINK I CAN
GET THROUGH IT IN THREE MINUTES.
6:58:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WE CAN HOLD BACK ON THOSE IF YOU WANT OR -- WHICHEVER YOU
PREFER.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
6:58:51PM >> DREW ROARK WITH ALEX ROARK ENGINEERING.
THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
BASICALLY.
I'VE BEEN A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
I'VE DONE DOZENS OF TRAFFIC STUDIES.
I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT DONE QUITE A BIT.
SO I WANTED TO PRIMARILY CLARIFY, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF THUNDER STOLEN FROM MY POINT I'LL MAKE.
I'LL JUST MAKE ONE POINT.
BASICALLY, SINCE WE'RE IN THE LAND USE AMENDMENT SECTION OF
THIS ANALYSIS OR YOUR DECISION, THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE
THING FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE TO LOOK AT, AND
THAT'S POTENTIAL.

MR. GOATIER JUST TALKED A LOT ABOUT POTENTIAL.
SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE DON'T KNOW.
YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU GO TO THE NEXT PHASE.
BUT UNDER THE CURRENT USE AT 58 DWELLING UNITS, THE MIRASOL
GENERATES APPROXIMATELY, ACCORDING TO I.T. TRIP GENERATION,
APPROXIMATELY 263 TRIPS A DAY.
UNDER THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT, WHAT'S POSSIBLE, AND
THE STAFF MENTIONED THIS IN THEIR PRESENTATION, IS A
COMMERCIAL USE THAT COULD INCLUDE OVER 139,000 SQUARE FEET.
FROM A TRIP GENERATION PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD RESULT IN
ABOUT 13,000 TRIPS PER DAY.
SO GOING FROM 263 TRIPS TO OVER 13,000 DAILY TRIPS IS AN
INCREASE OF OVER 4900 PERCENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS A POTENTIAL, IF YOU APPROVE THIS LAND USE
AMENDMENT, FOR THIS SITE UNDER THIS LAND USE.
WITH THAT, I'LL STOP.
7:00:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
7:00:47PM >> JIM PHILLIPS.
GOOD EVENING.
I'M HERE REALLY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDING.
SO THAT MAY SOUND A LITTLE STRANGE.
JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT, I HAVE LIVED ON DAVIS

ISLAND FOR 32 YEARS.
AS A PROFESSIONAL, I AM A BRIDGE ENGINEER.
I DO A LOT OF WORK ON BRIDGE RESTORATION PROJECTS.
I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF
THE PLATT STREET BRIDGE JUST DOWN THE STREET HERE, COMPLETED
IN 2012.
I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OLD STRUCTURES AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
THE THING THAT REALLY BRINGS THEM TO THEIR END VERY
FREQUENTLY IS THEY JUST KEEP DETERIORATING A LITTLE BIT, A
LITTLE BIT AT A TIME AND THEN GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S A
TIPPING POINT AND IT'S NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE TO
RESTORE THEM AND KEEP THEM FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
FOR THE PAST YEAR, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LIVING AT THE MIRASOL
BECAUSE MY HOUSE ON DAVIS ISLAND WAS FLOODED.
HOPEFULLY I'LL GET IT REPLACED SOON.
LIVING THERE FOR A YEAR, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE STRUCTURE
ITSELF, THE CORE OF THE BUILDING, IS PRETTY GOOD.
IT'S A VERY WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDING.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN A LOT OF NEED.
EVERYTHING FROM UPGRADES FOR ADA AND HURRICANE-PROOF
WINDOWS, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FLOORING AND STAIRCASES, STAIR
STEPS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.
AC, ALL OF THAT.
IT NEEDS A MAJOR OVERALL.

AS SOMEBODY POINTED OUT, QUITE SURPRISED, HAD A BASEMENT AND
ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN THE BASEMENT ON AN ISLAND.
PROBABLY NEED TO MOVE THE EQUIPMENT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
I BELIEVE RESTORING THE MIRASOL TO THE ORIGINAL USE AS HOTEL
PROVIDES THE ONLY MEANS TO MAKE RESTORATION VIABLE
FINANCIALLY, AND THAT WOULD BE THE METHOD THAT WOULD SAVE
THIS BEAUTIFUL OLD HISTORIC STRUCTURE, WHICH IS A GREAT
EXAMPLE OF MEDITERRANEAN REVIVAL ARCHITECTURE AS IS THE
PLATT STREET BRIDGE, BY THE WAY.
MY CONCERN IS IF THE AMENDMENT IS NOT APPROVED, THE MIRASOL
WILL FALL INTO FURTHER DECLINE AND DILAPIDATION.
LIKE SEVERAL OTHER BUILDINGS THAT TIME PERIOD ON DAVIS
ISLAND THAT WILL GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE LOST IT FOREVER.
IT'S BEYOND BEING RESTORED.
I WOULD URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT AND PROVIDE A
MEANS TO SAVE THE MIRASOL AS A BUILDING AND HOPEFULLY GETS
HISTORIC STATUS AT THAT POINT.
JUST ON CLOSING NOTE, IF YOU WANT TO FIX THE TRAFFIC ISSUES
ON DAVIS ISLAND, IT'S NOT THE MIRASOL.
YOU GOT TO RETURN BROREIN STREET TO FORMER LANE
CONFIGURATION.
THAT'S WHAT DESTROYED GETTING ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.
7:03:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
7:03:47PM >> HI.

BLAKE CASPER.
80 LADOGA ON DAVIS ISLAND.
BEEN ON DAVIS ISLAND THE LAST 20 YEARS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION AND THE
CHANGES.
I KNOW THE OWNERS AND THE CURRENT DESIGN TEAM.
I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT TEAM TO SAVE THE MIRASOL.
I RESTORED ADAPTIVE 200-YEAR-OLD BUILDINGS, STOVALL, NOW THE
OXFORD EXCHANGE AND IN FRONT OF YOU EIGHT YEARS AGO TO SAVE
THE STOVALL HOUSE.
FORTUNATELY, THIS BODY APPROVED THAT APPLICATION.
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE MIRASOL
AND THE STOVALL.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS, LOTS OF CONCERNS ABOUT A CHANGE IN USE.
I RECOGNIZE THAT.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE STOVALL, WE HAVE RESTORED THE
HOUSE, AND WE'VE LOCALLY DESIGNATED IT.
IT IS NOW PROTECTED.
STOVALL HOUSE WILL BE PROTECTED FOR INDEFINITELY.
HAD WE NOT GOTTEN THAT APPROVAL, I, TOO, BOUGHT THE BUILDING
BEFORE, THE PROPERTY BEFORE I GOT IT ZONED.
I WAS IN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES.
I WOULD HAVE SOLD IT.
WHETHER OR NOT I WOULD HAVE TAKEN A HIT OR LOST MONEY,
WHATEVER, THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.

AND THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE AT THE VERY LEAST IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN REDEVELOPED AND CUT UP AND THE HOUSE WAS NOT PROTECTED.
I DO BELIEVE THAT HOUSE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TORN DOWN.
WHETHER OR NOT A TOWER GOT BUILT THERE OR NOT IS DEBATABLE.
BUT THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE DIFFERENT TODAY THAN IT IS.
SO I THINK THE SAME THING WITH THE MIRASOL.
IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS, I THINK THERE IS A VERY HIGH
CHANCE THAT THE BUILDING GETS TORN DOWN.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY UNFORTUNATE GIVEN THAT THERE IS
A LOT OF HISTORY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ELIMINATED ON THE
ISLAND.
I THINK THIS IS THE TEAM TO DO IT.
I REALLY DO.
I HOPE YOU ALL WILL HEAR IT OUT AND VOTE IN FAVOR.
7:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
7:06:31PM >> CHRISTINA LORENDI.
I'M HERE NOT TO SPEAK OR RESTATE THE DETAILS OF THIS
PROPOSAL BUT RATHER TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE MIRASOL
REPRESENTS AND WHAT WOULD BE LOST IF IT IS NOT SAVED.
THE MIRASOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING.
IT IS PART OF TAMPA'S ARCHITECTURAL AND CULTURAL STORY.
IT REFLECTS A TIME WHEN DAVIS ISLANDS WAS THOUGHTFULLY
DESIGNED AS A PLACE TO LIVE, GATHER, AND WELCOME PEOPLE.
ONCE A STRUCTURE LIKE THIS IS GONE, IT CANNOT BE REPLACED,

NOT WITH MONEY AND NOT WITH GOOD INTENTIONS.
MY FAMILY AND I LIVED AT THE MIRASOL, AND ALTHOUGH WE LOVED
IT AND WERE VERY COMFORTABLE THERE, WE SAW FIRSTHAND THE
DETERIORATION THAT WAS ALREADY PRESENT WELL BEFORE
HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON.
AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND THE
CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH KEEPING A HISTORIC BUILDING VIABLE
IN MODERN CONDITIONS.
AFTER THE HURRICANES, THAT DAMAGE WORSENED.
WHAT WAS ONCE MANAGEABLE BECAME INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO
IGNORE.
THIS IS WHY PRESERVATION THROUGH ADAPTIVE REUSE IS SO
CRITICAL.
WITHOUT MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT, BUILDINGS LIKE THIS DON'T
STAND STILL.
THEY DECLINE, AND EVENTUALLY THE ONLY OPTION LEFT IS
DEMOLITION.
SAVING THE MIRASOL MEANS CHOOSING REVITALIZATION OVER
ERASURE.
IT MEANS RESPECTING TAMPA'S PAST WHILE ALLOWING THE BUILDING
TO EVOLVE SO IT CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, RATHER
THAN BECOME OBSOLETE.
ADAPTIVE REUSE IS ONE OF THE MOST RESPONSIBLE PLANNING TOOLS
WE HAVE.
IT PROTECTS HISTORY.

IT REDUCES ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, AND KEEPS NEIGHBORHOODS
ROOTED IN THEIR ORIGINAL CHARACTER.
CITIES THAT THRIVE DO SO BECAUSE THEY VALUE CONTINUITY.
THEY DO NOT TEAR DOWN MEANINGFUL LANDMARKS WHEN THERE IS A
THOUGHTFUL PATH FORWARD.
THEY FIND WAYS TO HONOR THEM, MAINTAIN THEM, AND ALLOW THEM
TO REMAIN PART OF DAILY LIFE.
THE CARRIERAS SPENT YEARS DEVELOPING A THOUGHTFUL,
DELIBERATE PLAN TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
ONE THAT REPAIRS AND PRESERVES THE MIRASOL WHILE ACTIVELY
LISTENING TO AND ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF DAVIS ISLAND
RESIDENTS.
THIS DECISION IS ABOUT MORE THAN A SINGLE PROPERTY.
IT IS ABOUT WHETHER WE PRESERVE A PIECE OF TAMPA'S HISTORY
OR ALLOW IT TO BE REPLACED BY SOMETHING THAT CAN NEVER
REPLICATE ITS SIGNIFICANCE.
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT SAVING THE MIRASOL AND TO SUPPORT THE
CARRIERA FAMILY IN THEIR ENDEAVOR, NOT JUST FOR TODAY, BUT
FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO DESERVE TO EXPERIENCE THE TAMPA THAT
WE SO LOVE.
7:09:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
7:09:44PM >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS JOHN LORENDI.
THAT WAS MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE OUR EXPERIENCE AT THE MIRASOL THAT SHE
ALLUDED TO.
IN JULY OF 2024, MY FAMILY AND I PACKED UP OUR LIVES AND
DECIDED TO MOVE HERE TO START FRESH IN TAMPA.
LIKE A LOT OF MOVES AND BUILDS, OURS DID NOT GO AS PLANNED
AND UNDERGONE SOME TIME DELAY.
SO WHEN WE ARRIVED ONLY TO REALIZE THAT OUR HOME WASN'T
READY FOR OCCUPANCY, WE FOUND OURSELVES LIVING AT THE
MIRASOL FOR A FEW WEEKS.
IT WAS LOVELY.
EVERY MORNING WALKING THROUGH THAT LOBBY AND EVERY EVENING
COMING HOME AFTER EXPLORING THE CITY, WE JUST FELL IN LOVE
WITH THAT BUILDING.
I MEAN, WE FELT THE HISTORY IN IT.
THOSE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, THE WAY THE LIGHT CAME IN
THROUGH THOSE WINDOWS, IT WAS SPECIAL.
SOMETHING ELSE WAS CLEAR.
THE GRAND LOBBY, THE WAY EVERYTHING FLOWS, THOSE COMMON
SPACES, THEY WERE ALL DESIGNED TO WELCOME GUESTS.
FOR US STAYING THERE TEMPORARILY, IT WAS PERFECT.
BUT YOU COULD FEEL IT WASN'T BUILT FOR LONG-TERM LIVING.
THIS BUILDING WANTS TO BE WHAT IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE --
A HOTEL.
AND WHILE WE'RE FALLING IN LOVE WITH THE BUILDING, WE'RE
ALSO SEEING THE REALITY OF ITS AGE.

THE WEAR AND TEAR, THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, IT WAS
NOTICEABLE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO BE CRITICAL OF ANYONE.
BUT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY THE OWNERS WANT TO SAVE IT.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT'S HISTORIC.
IT'S EVIDENT IT MATTERS TO THIS COMMUNITY, BUT THE REALITY
IS, PRESERVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS PROPERTY TAKES SERIOUS
RESOURCES.
IT TAKES A REAL INVESTMENT.
AFTER THOSE HURRICANES, IT'S EVEN MORE OBVIOUS THAT THIS
BUILDING NEEDS MORE THAN JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND
UPKEEP.
IT NEEDS THE KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE RESTORATION THAT CAN ONLY
HAPPEN WITH SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL BEHIND IT.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE SUPPORTING THE PLAN.
RETURNING THE MIRASOL TO A BOUTIQUE HOTEL GIVES IT PURPOSE
-- THE PURPOSE IT IS DESIGNED FOR AND THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS
TO SURVIVE ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS.
THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT SAVING A BUILDING.
IT'S ABOUT GIVING TAMPA BACK ONE OF ITS GEMS.
HONESTLY, SELFISHLY, WHEN MY FAMILY COMES TO TOWN FOR A
VISIT, DO I WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE WHAT WE DID, TO STAY IN
THIS PIECE OF TAMPA HISTORY AND FEEL WHAT MAKES THIS CITY SO
SPECIAL.

THANK YOU.
7:12:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
7:12:25PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS STEVE STANLEY.
I LIVE AT 20 ADALIA.
I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS SINCE 1985.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE HERE ON SAVING THE MIRASOL.
I THOUGHT WE WERE HERE ON A LAND USE AMENDMENT HEARING.
SO I LIKE THE MIRASOL.
I LIKE THE BUILDING, BUT FOR THE LAND USE AMENDMENT, I'M
AGAINST IT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE DENSITY OF THAT SITE SUCH
THAT YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE ON THE CORNER OF KENNEDY AND
WESTSHORE, COLUMBUS AND LOIS, JUST HIGH INTENSITY
DEVELOPMENT.
FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS JUST
ABOUT SAVING THE MIRASOL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT
ABOUT FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF SAVING THE MIRASOL.
IT'S ABOUT THE LAND USE.
LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE MIRASOL COULD BE SAVED JUST AS IT IS FOR WHAT IT IS NOW,
WHICH IS A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
SO SOMEBODY COULD PUT THE MONEY IN IT AND DO THE THINGS IT
NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS PRESERVED.

BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE -- DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE A LAND USE
PLAN TO DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MAKE IT
FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO DO THIS PROJECT.
WE'RE HERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT
SITE STICK OUT ON DAVIS BOULEVARD LIKE A SORE THUMB WITH THE
POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE SITE WITH AN INTENSE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF -- YOU HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT
NUMBERS, 139,000 SQUARE FEET OF MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.
YOU GOT A MARINA BEHIND IT.
CHANGE THAT MARINA FROM A LITTLE SLEEPY RESIDENTIAL MARINA
WHERE I'VE KEPT MY BOAT BEFORE, NOT NOW, INTO A COMMERCIAL
MARINA.
ON A CANAL THAT IS NOTHING BUT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
HOUSES.
YOU CAN ALLOW A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING TO
ALLOW THAT WHOLE LITTLE SITE TO BE AN ENORMOUS NOISE MAKER,
TRAFFIC MAKER DISTRACTION INSTEAD OF WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS
THIS SLEEPY LITTLE BOUTIQUE PROPERTY.
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN A PEEK AT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
THEY DON'T JUST WANT TO SAVE THE MIRASOL.
THEY WANT TO ADD A BUNCH MORE BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES.
WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO WHY WE'RE HERE.
I HOPE YOU TURN DOWN THE LAND USE AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T
NEED A MAJOR INCREASE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SITE AT THAT

PROPERTY WHERE IT IS ON DAVIS ISLAND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:15:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
A QUESTION, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LEFT IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE
NUMBERS TO SPEAK THIS EVENING FOR THIS ITEM?
AFTER WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE ONES THAT ARE LINED UP AT THE WALL,
WE'LL TAKE A SHORT 15-MINUTE BREAK.
JUST SO YOU'RE PLANNING, KNOW THAT WE WILL TAKE A BREAK AFTER
THESE TWO.
07:15:38PM >> I AM WILL HALL, AND I LIVE ON ABOUT TWO OR THREE BLOCKS
FROM THE MIRASOL.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO THE AREA ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS
AGO, AND OVER THAT TIME, MY NEIGHBORS EXPERIENCED INCREASED
STREET PARKING ISSUE MAINLY DUE TO THE HOSPITAL.
BUT MIND YOU, I LOVE THE HOSPITAL AND WHAT THEY DO FOR THE
COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS NOT WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
I SHARE THIS GOOGLE IMAGE WITH YOU, LIKE EVERY FAMILY THAT
HAVE KIDS AND DOGS, THEY LIKE TO ROAM AROUND DAVIS ISLAND
BECAUSE IT IS SO LOVELY.
ALL THE STREETS I WALK BY EVERY DAY.
IF YOU DON'T LIVE ON D.I. AND SHIFT CHANGES AND PEOPLE
AFFILIATED THAT HAVE TO COME TO THE HOSPITAL, THEY COME AND
THEY DESCEND ON DAVIS ISLANDS AND TAKE UP THE FREE PARKING
ON ALL OF THE HIGHLIGHTED STREETS.
I SEE THIS EVERY DAY.
I INVITE YOU TO MY HOUSE IF YOU QUESTION THIS AT ALL.
I THINK MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE RUNNING LATE FOR WORK.
WHO KNOWS, MAYBE THEY WANT FREE PARKING.
WHATEVER THE REASON, THIS IS A PARKING ISSUE, AND THAT IS A
HAZARD.
NEXT THING I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU IS JUST OUR BLOCK.
SO WE RESIDENTS CAN CALL TGH SECURITY OR TAMPA'S PARKING
DIVISION TO ASK FOR HELP, BUT NEITHER HAVE BEEN ABLE -- OR
FOLLOWING COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO SOLVE THE PARKING
PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ME AND MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS RESORTED TO PUTTING "NO PARKING"
SIGNS IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES, AND TYPICALLY PREVENTS PEOPLE
FROM BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAYS BUT DOESN'T PREVENT PEOPLE
DESCENDING FROM THE HOSPITAL FROM TAKING UP OUR STREET
PARKING WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS FRUSTRATING FOR A VARIETY
OF REASONS.
YOUR HOME IS BLOCKED ALL THE TIME.
GETTING IN AND OUT OF YOUR DRIVEWAY IS A CHALLENGE.
SO I SHARE ALL OF THIS WITH YOU, BECAUSE I FEEL STRONGLY IF
THE CITY WERE TO APPROVE THE MIRASOL'S LAND USE CHANGE
REQUEST, IT WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON
THE PARKING FOR RESIDENCES SURROUNDING THE AREA, WHICH, AS
YOU NOW KNOW, IS A HUGE PROBLEM FROM ALL THE RESIDENTS YOU
HEARD FROM TONIGHT.
AND WHAT I AM GOING TO DO FINALLY IS SHARE THIS PHOTO WITH
MY LAST MINUTE.
SO THIS IS JUST A DISHEARTENING LITTLE EXPERIENCE THAT
HAPPENED EARLIER THIS WEEK.
I WAS LEAVING MY HOME MONDAY MORNING TO TAKE MY KIDS TO
SCHOOL.
AS I WAS PULLING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, MY NEIGHBORS AND I
ENCOUNTERED AN INDIVIDUAL REMOVING THE PEACEFUL "SAVE OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD" SIGNS FROM YARDS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ASKED WHO HE WAS AND WHY HE WAS REMOVING THE SIGNS.
HE SAID HE WAS HIRED BY FRANK, THE OWNER OF THE MIRASOL TO
COLLECT THE SIGNS.
THAT THE OWNERS OF MIRASOL WILL RESORT TO SUCH TACTICS TO
WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO APPROVE D.I. AND OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HOPE YOU DO NOT APPROVE THE LAND USE REQUEST CHANGE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:18:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
AND REMEMBER, IF -- IF YOU FINISH AND YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE
THE BUILDING FOR THE NIGHT, LEAVE YOUR NUMBER.
IF NOT -- AND IF YOU FINISH SPEAKING, GO DOWNSTAIRS TO THE
SECOND FLOOR.
07:18:49PM >> GOOD EVENING, LEVY NGUYEN, AND I CURRENTLY AM VICE-CHAIR OF
THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, AND I WAS THERE ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO
AND RENEWED THREE YEARS AGO AND UP TO MY TERM LIMITS HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
I AM AN ARCHITECT MYSELF AND LIKE TO SPEAK FROM LAND USE
PLANNER AS MEMBER OF THE BARRIO LATINO AND NOT MY
JURISDICTION IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK OF THE HISTORICAL ASPECT.
AS A MEMBER -- OVERSEEING YBOR CITY AND MOST OF THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION IS THAT MANY PEOPLE MENTION TAKES A LOT OF
CAPITAL IS THE WIDELY KNOWN THING WITH HISTORIC
PRESERVATION, BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WHEN WE KIND OF
CONSIDER THAT AS WELL, IS WE OFTEN KIND OF CONSIDER LAND USE
AMENDMENTS THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL WHETHER TO
APPROVE OR DENY AS WELL.
AND THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, SHOULD BE A
DENIAL.
IT IS -- AS YOU HEARD FROM THE LAND USE PLANNERS, IT
DESTROYS THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DAVIS ISLANDS.
I AM VERY SYMPATHETIC OF PRESERVING THE MIRASOL, BUT THE
INTENSITY WHERE IT INCREASES THE CAPACITY OF THE COMMERCIAL
USE AND RESIDENTIAL USE TO HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO KIND OF DO
SOMETHING LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON.
THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THESE PARCELS CAN DOUBLE
WHAT YOU KIND OF SEE FOR TODAY.
IN THAT ASPECT, THE MIRASOL WAS NOMINATED TO BE HISTORICALLY
PRESERVED SINCE 1987, AS THIS ARTICLE KIND OF SERVES.
UNLIKE SOMETHING LIKE YBOR CITY, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE
GUARDRAILS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT TO KIND OF HELP AMPLIFY
AND PRESERVE THE MASSING, SCALE,AND ALL THAT WITHIN THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT.
A STAND-ALONE PROPERTY.
IT WAS NEVER PUT ON THE REGISTRY OF LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
NOT A HISTORIC BUILDING AND NOTHING TO KEEP IT FROM BEING
DEVELOPED TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL IF THE LAND USE AMENDMENT IS
APPROVED.
AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:20:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AFTER THIS SPEAKER, WE WILL TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
07:20:58PM >> AM I READY?
07:21:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, GO AHEAD.
07:21:05PM >> MY NAME IS JODY THOMPSON.
I LIVE ON DAVIS BOULEVARD.
I LIVED ON DAVIS ISLAND FOR 25 YEARS.
I MOVED HERE TO TAKE A JOB AS A PROFESSOR IN THE COLLEGE OF
BUSINESS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, AND SPECIFICALLY, I TEACH
MANAGEMENT AND ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP COURSES.
SO YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR I AM A BIG FAN OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FREE ENTERPRISE, JOB CREATION, AND
ENTREPRENEURIALSHIP, IN GENERAL.
I LIKE TAMPA.
I LIKE US TO CREATE JOBS.
I LIKE TO SEE OUR LEADERS SUCCEED.
I LIKE TO SEE THAT THE COMPANIES ARE GROWING AND THE ECONOMY
IS GROWING.
BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MUST BE CONSENSUAL AMONG THE
STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS UNFAIR AND UNREASONABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO EARN THE
PROFITS ON THIS PROJECT WHILE THE NEIGHBORS BEAR THE COSTS
OF INCREASED TRAFFIC, NOISE, AND INCONVENIENCE FOREVER IF THE
LAND USE -- LAND USE IS CHANGED.
I NOTICED A PATTERN TONIGHT.
I LISTENED CAREFULLY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SAID AND WHERE THEY
COME FROM.
MAYBE YOU NOTICED IT TOO.
IF YOU LIVE VERY NEAR THE MIRASOL, YOU ARE OPPOSED TO THE
LAND USE AMENDMENT.
IF YOU LIVE FARTHER AWAY FROM THE MIRASOL, YOU ARE IN FAVOR
OF THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEYS, BUT I AM TALKING OF THE
NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE NEARBY THE PROPERTY.
SO BASED ON THAT PATTERN THAT I NOTICED TONIGHT, I HAVE A
THOUGHT EXPERIMENT FOR US TO CONSIDER.
IS THERE ANY PARCEL ON DAVIS ISLAND WHERE THE NEARBY
NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT CONVERTED TO A COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT?
WHO WANTS TO LIVE NEAR A NIGHT CLUB OR A HOTEL OR SHOPPING
CENTER MAYBE ONLY 500 FEET AWAY FROM YOUR RESIDENCE.
RAISE OF HANDS, ANYBODY WANT TO LIVE NEAR A COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT AFTER YOU HAVEN'T HAD THAT NEARBY?
SO NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO HAVE THAT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHY SHOULD WE HAVE THAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE ARE
OPPOSED TO IT, PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAREST TO THIS PROPERTY.
SO I HOPE YOU WILL SEE THIS TREATS US IN A WAY THAT NO ONE
WANTS TO BE TREATED, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY.
AND I HOPE YOU VOTE AGAINST THE LAND USE AMENDMENT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU.
07:23:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK.
15 MINUTES, COUNCIL WILL BE BACK AT 7:40.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
07:43:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
PLEASE HAVE SILENCE IN THE ROOM.
EVERYBODY STOP TALKING.
THAT MEANS EVERYBODY.
JANE.
JANE, SHUSH.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
THANK YOU.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
07:44:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
07:44:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
07:44:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
07:44:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
07:44:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
07:44:20PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
07:44:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE WILL START BACK WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER, IF YOU WOULD LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL,
AND WE WILL START CALLING YOU UP ONE AT A TIME.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
EVERYBODY LEFT IN THE ROOM WITH A NUMBER, PLEASE.
IT SHOULD BE LESS THAN TEN LEFT IN THE ROOM SO JUST GO
AHEAD.
WE WON'T ARM WRESTLE FOR IT.
NO, IT IS GOOD.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
07:44:54PM >> 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
07:44:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR NAME.
START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE.
07:45:02PM >> READY?
TAYLOR RALPH, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT
WHATSOEVER.
AND I REALLY UNDERSTAND, LIKE, THIS IS A REALLY COMPLEX
SITUATION WITH THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
EXCUSE ME, I AM FINISHING MY CANDY I GOT DOWNSTAIRS.
IT IS MY HABIT WHEN I COME HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THESE THINGS GET REALLY
COMPLICATED.
PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW ZONING WORKS, HOW LAND
USE WORKS, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WORKS.
WHETHER YOU BUY A PROPERTY OR DON'T BUY A PROPERTY AND
HISTORICALLY, ALL THAT.
TIMELINE IS DIFFERENT, AND CERTAINTY IS DIFFERENT, AND WE ALL
HAVE THESE TO UNDERSTAND.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS TEAM, THEY CARE.
THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THEY ARE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY WANT A CHANCE TO SHOW YOU WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO WITH
THE PROPERTY.
AND THIS -- THIS LAND USE CHANGE ALLOWS YOU TO SEE WHAT THEY
PLAN TO DO WITH THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT IS VERY COMPLICATED.
I THINK THIS TEAM HAS MADE IT VERY SIMPLE.
I BELIEVE TYLER HUDSON WHEN HE SAYS IF THE LAND USE IS
APPROVED AND THE REZONING IS NOT, HE WILL PULL THE LAND USE
CHANGE.
SO IT IS COMPLICATED, BUT IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS PROJECT BACK TO ITS
ORIGINAL USE FROM 1926.
GUESS WHAT?
WE DO NOT HAVE A LAND USE ZONING REGULATION IN 1926.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE RULES UNTIL 1943.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS TEAM IS COMMITTED TO HISTORICALLY
PRESERVING THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEY ARE DOING IT THROUGH THE USE THAT YOU NEED TO HELP
THEM ALLOW, WHICH IS CMU-35.
IT IS REALLY EASY TO USE HYPERBOLIC AND SCARE TACTICS AND
WILD ESTIMATES OF TRIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SCARE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, ALLOWING THIS VOTE GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHAT
THEY ARE GOING TO DO THROUGH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND IT IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYONE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH.
IT IS A REZONING THAT THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED BASED ON YOUR
GUIDANCE, BASED ON THEIR PLAN, THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN DO
ANYTHING ELSE THAN WHAT IS ON THAT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
PROJECT.
SO, AGAIN, GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
THEY HAVE A TEAM THAT HAS LOOKED AT THIS FROM EVERY ANGLE AS
FAR AS HOW DO YOU SAVE THE BUILDING.
HOW CAN WE DEAL WITH APARTMENTS?
HOW CAN WE DEAL WITH OTHER THINGS?
THEY -- I BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY SAY IF THIS IS NOT ALLOWED,
THE PROJECT -- THE BUILDING POTENTIALLY WILL DETERIORATE
FURTHER AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE KNOCKED DOWN, WHICH IS
AN R-50 UNDERLINING ZONING OR LAND USE THAT WILL ALLOW YOU
BUY A RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
LET THEM SHOW YOU THEY WILL KEEP THE SAME HEIGHT OF BUILDING
AND PRESERVE THIS HISTORIC BUILDING THAT WE HAVE SO FEW.
THIS IS A VINOY MOMENT.
THE VINOY IS NOT A TRAFFIC CONGESTED NASTY PLACE BUT A
HISTORIC CARED-ABOUT PLACE.
GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
07:48:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
07:48:19PM >> HI, DAN CASIS.
I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
I WANT TO SUPPORT THE LAND USE CHANGE.
AND I THINK IT IS ABOUT -- IT IS BIGGER THAN THE BUILDING,
BIGGER THAN THAT PARTICULAR LOT.
IT IS ABOUT IMPROVING THE ISLAND.
I THINK BEFORE THE HURRICANES, THERE WASN'T MUCH THERE BUT TO
LIVE THERE WITH A FAMILY.
AFTER THE HURRICANES, YOU GO TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA,
EVERYTHING IS SHUTTERED.
MOST OF THE BUSINESSES -- YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUT-OF-TOWN
RELATIVES.
YOU WANT TO GO OFF THE ISLAND.
I THINK IT WILL SEND A POSITIVE EXAMPLE THAT THE ISLAND IS
WORTH INVESTING IN.
IF IT WAS ME, I WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE SORT OF DIFFICULT
AND COMPLEX ROAD THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE TRYING TO GO
THROUGH.
I WOULD GO THROUGH IT WITH A CLEAN SLATE ROUTE AND APPROACH.
I THINK LIKE THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN, THAT A LOT OF THE
NUMBERS THAT PEOPLE ARE PRESENTING, WITH THE BACKGROUND
DON'T MAKE SENSE.
13,000 TRIPS A DAY, 12 HOURS A DAY, 1,000 TRIPS AN HOUR, LIKE
60 CARS A MINUTE.
THESE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T -- THEY DON'T ADD UP.
SO I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIGGEST RISK FOR THE
ISLAND IS PEOPLE DON'T COME IN, THEY DON'T REPAIR THINGS,
AND STAY SHUTTERED LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK THERE IS NO GUARANTEED FOR THEM THEY WILL HAVE
FULL OCCUPANCY.
THAT THEY WILL HAVE GOOD MARKETABILITY, AND THAT THERE WILL BE
-- PEOPLE CHECKING IN AND OUT EVERY -- EVERY HOUR OF EVERY
DAY, SEVEN DAY AS WEEK.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SORT OF LOGISTICAL SENSE.
SO I THINK THE UPSIDE TO THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, THE FOOT
TRAFFIC TO DOWNTOWN WILL HELP LOCAL ECONOMY.
MAYBE THEY WILL GO BACK INTO IMPROVING THE ISLAND AND A LOT
OF THE OTHER SORT OF UNRELATED TOPICS OF PARKING, SAFETY,
TRAFFIC, CYCLISTS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS LAND USE
CHANGE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND THANK YOU.
07:50:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:50:14PM >> THANKS.
07:50:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
HI THERE.
GOOD EVENING.
07:50:19PM >> MY NAME IS BECKY BESSENT DAVIS.
I LIVE ON BLANCA, A FIVE-MINUTE WALK OF DAVIS ISLAND TOWERS.
I LIVED IN THE DAVIS ISLAND TOWER TO NOW IN THE MIRASOL WHEN
HURRICANE ELENA CAME THROUGH AND FLOODED THE BASEMENT
BEFORE.
THE PRESERVATION OWNERS AT THE TIME REDID THE BASEMENT AND
MADE IT AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE DESIGNATION OF A LAND USE
CHANGE AT THIS TIME.
THAT IS PRECEDENT SETTING FOR ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD AS ONE
OF ITS PREVIOUS SPEAKERS POINTED OUT IS THE NARROWEST POINT
FROM WATER TO WATER.
BUT THE CONTIGUOUS LAND USES.
WE HAVE FOUR BLOCKS IN THE DOWNTOWN VILLAGE PARTS OF DAVIS
ISLAND THAT ARE CMU.
THAT IS FINE.
YOU CAN PUT A HOTEL THERE ANY DAY.
RIGHT NOW, THE MIRASOL IS USING, I BELIEVE IT IS, NINE AIRBnBs
THERE.
A TEST MARKET FOR THE HOTEL, AND THEY CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT
UNDER STATE LAW.
SO BE IT.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD CONFLATE THE ZONING AND THE
LAND USE.
THE LAND USE IS THE KEY HERE AND PRECEDENT SETTING AND TOO
INTENSE FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU WILL CHANGE THE FABRIC AND START A RICOCHET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:51:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
07:51:45PM >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
I'M MARIE BORLAND.
113 ADALIA WITH MY HUSBAND RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE
MIRASOL WHERE ANECDOTALLY I MOVED IN 1990 AS A YOUNG LAWYER
AND BEGAN MY CAREER WITH HILL, WARD, AND HENDERSON WHERE I
STILL AM.
I LOT OF BUILDING AND PASSION FOR ITS PRESERVATION.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE MIRASOL, TO CHANGE THE
LAND USE DESIGNATION.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT SOME OTHERS HAVEN'T
FOCUSED ON.
I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BAR SINCE 1990, A BOARD-CERTIFIED
APPELLATE LAWYER, AND I HANDLED LAND USE DEALS.
I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPERS.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE BURDEN OF PROOF.
THIS COUNCIL KNOWS BETTER THAN I, THE COMP PLAN IS LIKE A
CONSTITUTION.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
AND IT IS A VERY UPHILL BATTLE TO CHANGE A LAND USE
DESIGNATION.
THIS HEARING SOUNDS LIKE IT IS A BALANCING OF THE SCALES
BETWEEN A GROUP OF INVESTORS AND THEIR FRIENDS WHO
DESPERATELY WANT TO PURSUE THIS PROJECT FOR PROFIT AND
FINANCIAL REASONS, AND REST OF US THAT ARE GOING TO BE
IMPACTED DAILY IN OUR DAILY LIVES, OUR PROPERTY VALUES WILL
BE IMPACTED.
WE ALREADY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.
WE ALREADY FEEL THAT IT IS HAZARDOUS TO TRY TO TURN OVER,
TURN OUT ON TO DAVIS BOULEVARD FROM THE MIRASOL.
SO I AM NOT SURE WHY THIS HEARING HAS SORT OF DEVOLVED INTO
THIS KIND OF SWEARING MATCH WHERE IS IT MORE IMPORTANT TO
PERSERVE THE MIRASOL WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS
PROJECT, AND THIS PROJECT WILL MAKE THE MIRASOL UNRECOGNIZABLE
AND NOT ABOUT THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP
PLAN, WHETHER IT IS INCOMPATIBLE.
THIS -- I AM -- I AM KIND OF OFFENDED BY THIS MOTION THAT
THESE ARE SCARE TACTICS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE THE ONES, THE PROPERTY OWNERS,
WHO ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SCARED BY THIS.
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WILL CHANGE.
THEY WON'T FEEL SAFE.
THEY WILL FEEL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
OUR PROPERTY VALUES WILL GO DOWN.
I QUITE FRANKLY DON'T KNOW IF I WILL KEEP MY HOUSE.
IN 2016, I MOVED IN MY FOREVER HOME.
HAPPY TO BE LIVING DOWN THE STREET FROM THE MIRASOL.
THIS IS NOT A NECESSARY PROJECT.
IT HAS NOT -- THERE IS A REASON WHY THE CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
SAYING IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
IF I WAS ASKED TO HANDLE AN APPEAL ON BEHALF OF DEVELOPERS
WHATEVER THIS DECISION IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD SAY
LEGALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROBABLY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN LAID
OUT IN BLACK AND WHITE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT
THAT IT IS SIMPLY INCOMPATIBLE AND INCONSISTENT.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO PRESERVE THE MIRASOL.
IT WILL DO THE OPPOSITE.
AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL DENY
THE AMENDMENT.
07:54:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
07:54:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, ANY NAME IS AMANDA CRASAKIS, A NEIGHBOR OF
DAVIS ISLANDS AND A PARENT.
WHAT MATTERS TO ME PRESERVING THE MIRASOL'S HISTORY AND MAKE
SURE IT HAS A FUTURE.
IF THE MIRASOL CAN RETURN TO WHAT IT WAS TO ORIGINALLY BUILT
TO BE, A HOTEL AND GATHERING PLACE BY ALIGNING THE LAND USE
WITH THAT PURPOSE.
IT WAS BUILT AS PART OF A MIXED-USE VISION OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
OUR COMMUNITY LIVES WITH THAT VISION EVERY DAY.
THE VILLAGE IS A HEART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
CMU-35 ALREADY EXISTS HERE AND WORKS.
IT HAVEN'T DAMAGED THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLANDS, IT HELPED
DEFINE IT.
THIS AMENDMENT DOESN'T INTRODUCE SOMETHING FOREIGN TO THE
ISLANDS, BUT IT BRINGS THE LAND BACK TO ALIGNMENT WITH THE
BUILDING'S ORIGINAL INTENT AND HOW THE COMMUNITY ALREADY
FUNCTIONS.
IF WE DENY THAT ALIGNMENT, WE DON'T PRESERVE THE MIRASOL, AND
WE LIVE IT IN LIMBO.
BUILDINGS IN LIMBO DON'T STAY STANDING, THEY DETERIORATE OR
DISAPPEAR.
AS A PARENT, I THINK OF WHAT WE PASS ON.
THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS PRESERVATION POSSIBLE.
IT KEEPS THE MIRASOL AS PART OF THE DAVIS ISLANDS STORY.
THANK YOU.
07:55:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
07:56:03PM >> MY NAME IS VANESSA GRANT.
I AM ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY MANAGER AT THE MIRASOL.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT DAVIS ISLANDS AND THE LEGACY WE LEAVE
FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THE QUESTION BEFORE TODAY -- BEFORE YOU TODAY, EXCUSE ME, IS
WHETHER THE MIRASOL SHOULD BE ALLOW TO INCLUDE HOTEL USE.
AT ITS CORE, THIS IS A QUESTION OF PRESERVATION, WHETHER WE
PROTECT A LIVING PIECE OF THE ISLAND'S HISTORY OR ALLOW IT
TO FADE SLOWLY.
DAVIS ISLANDS HAS NEVER BEEN PURELY RESIDENTIAL.
FROM THE EARLIEST PLANNINGS, IT HAS DESIGNATED A MIXED-USE
COMMUNITY WITH COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY INTENTIONALLY WOVEN INTO
THE DAILY LIFE, THE VILLAGE, DAVIS BOULEVARD, AND MIRASOL
ITSELF ALL REFLECT THAT IN ITS ORIGINAL PROVISION, EXCUSE
ME.
THE MIRASOL WAS BUILT AS HOTEL AND STILL FUNCTIONS LIKE ONE.
IT IS ALREADY A HIGHLY TRANSIT BUILDING.
OUR LONGEST STANDING RESIDENT MOVED IN DURING 2020, AND THERE
IS ONLY ONE.
MOST RESIDENTS STAY A FEW YEARS AND THEN MOVE ON, EITHER TO
LARGER APARTMENTS OR INTO HOMES.
THE UNITS ARE SMALL, AND FOR MANY PEOPLE, THE MIRASOL SERVES
AS A FIRST STEP INTO DOWNTOWN LIVING BECAUSE OF ITS
COMPARATIVE -- COMPARATIVELY AFFORDABLE -- BECAUSE IT IS
COMPARATIVELY AFFORDABLE, EXCUSE ME.
IT IS NOT ACCIDENTAL, A NATURAL RESULT OF BUILDING NOT BUILT
FOR LONG-TIME RESIDENTIAL USE.
HEIGHT, SCALE, AND PRESENCE ALREADY EXISTS.
WHAT IS AT RISK HERE IS NOT OVERDEVELOPMENT BUT IRRELEVANCE.
BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ADAPT ARE NOT PRESERVED.
THEY ARE SLOWLY LOST.
RESTRICTING VIABLE USES INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF
DISINVESTMENT, DEMOLITION, AND EVENTUAL REPLACEMENT WITH
DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT PERMANENTLY ERASES
HISTORY.
HOTEL USE IS NOT A THREAT.
IT IS A WAY TO KEEP THE MIRASOL ACTIVE, SUSTAINABLE, AND
CONNECT THE COMMUNITY, AND IT HAS SERVED FOR GENERATIONS.
APPROVING THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT IS CHOOSING ADOPTION OVER
ABANDONMENT AND PRESERVATION OVER LOSS.
THANK YOU.
07:58:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
THIS IS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD, IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
07:58:33PM >> MICHELLE DIGORY.
I LIVED ON DAVIS ISLAND FOR 33 YEARS.
MOST RECENTLY 124 ADALIA AVENUE, ADJACENT TO THE MIRASOL.
MIRASOL IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.
I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE HISTORIC BEAUTY AND ARCHITECTURE
AND FULLY SUPPORT PRESERVING IT AS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
I UNDERSTAND WHY DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENTS LIKE THE IDEA OF A
WATERFRONT HOTEL AND RESTAURANT, BUT RESIDENTS WHO LIVE
FURTHER SOUTH ON THE ISLAND AS AN EARLIER SPEAKER POINTED
OUT ARE NOT REALLY "NEIGHBORS" OF THE MIRASOL, NOT IN THE
SAME WAY THAT THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING THE MIRASOL ON THIS
MAP, NOT IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT IS GOING TO AFFECT THEM.
FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE ON RIVERA, WHICH IS OVER A MILE AWAY,
COULD SPEND THE EVENING HAVING A GOOD TIME AT THE MIRASOL
RESTAURANT AND BAR AND THEN GO HOME TO THEIR QUIET
RESIDENTIAL STREET.
THEY WOULD NOT BE GREATLY IMPACTED BY THE COMMERCIAL LAND
USE CHANGE.
WE HAVE ABOUT 270 RESIDENTS WHO HAVE FORMALLY OPPOSED THIS
WITH PETITIONS AND/OR OPPOSITION LETTERS.
BUT THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS THAT MATTER MOST IN THIS CHANGE.
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS OF THE MIRASOL WITH IMPACT SEVEN
DAY AS WEEK AND SEVEN EVENINGS A WEEK OF A COMMERCIAL LAND
USE AND THE MANY POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USES AND THE MAGNITUDE
OF THE POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS WHOSE LANDSCAPE WILL FOREVER CHANGE
IF THE MIRASOL IS ALLOWED TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS ALONG
ADALIA AND ALONG BALTIC.
08:00:17PM >> CAN WE GO TO THE OVERHEAD.
PLEASE, AND STAY ON THAT, PLEASE.
08:00:22PM >> THANK YOU.
THESE ARE THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED.
IF THAT GOES THROUGH, ZERO SETBACK ON WHAT THEY WANT TO
BUILD THERE.
WHETHER IT IS A HOTEL.
WHATEVER IT IS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A VARIETY OF
THINGS.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE STREETS WILL EXPERIENCE
HEAVIER TRANSIENT TRAFFIC, INCLUDING ALL OF THE UBERS.
UBERS ARE TRAFFIC.
INCLUDING ALL OF THE UBERS AS EARLIER SPEAKERS HAVE
MENTIONED.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS WHOSE STREETS WILL BE PARKED UP AND
DOWN WITH MIRASOL OVERFLOW PARKING.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS WHOSE QUIET LIFESTYLE WILL BE
AFFECTED BY NOISE FROM PATRONS AND GUEST OF THE HOTEL,
RESTAURANT, BAR, AND WEDDINGS OUTSIDE ON THE STREETS, ON
ON THE HOTEL BALCONIES AND ON THE WATER SIDE.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS WHOSE PROPERTIES WOULD LOSE VALUE.
REST OF THE ISLAND RESIDENTS MAY ONLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH
INCREASED TRAFFIC AS WE ARE TRYING TO HEAD OFF THE ISLAND.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE AMENDMENT.
08:01:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
MR. PRESSMAN, REMINDER, ONLY ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME.
08:01:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, IF YOUR NAME IS HERE, PLEASE
SPEAK OUT SO I CAN HEAR YOU.
CATHERINE SENDAIS.
ADALIA.
08:01:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. PRESSMAN, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT SO
ONLY ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME.
08:02:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JAMIE DEFRATES.
JAMIE GARRISON, TRACY McDAUGHTRY.
I GUESS THEY ARE DOWNSTAIRS.
THEY ARE COMING IN?
08:02:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAY THE NAMES ONE MORE TIME, MR. SHELBY.
08:02:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN READ THIS.
CATHERINE -- MY APOLOGIES.
08:02:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HIS HERE IS.
08:02:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JAMIE DEFRATES.
JAMIE GARRISON AND TRACY McDAUGHTRY.
THANK YOU.
FOUR MINUTES ADDITIONAL, PLUS THREE IS SEVEN MINUTES.
08:02:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU GUYS CAN GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS TO SIT
DOWN.
THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK UP.
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE, AND SEVEN MINUTES, CORRECT?
08:02:43PM >> MY NAME IS FRANK SALCOX.
I LIVE AT 124 ADALIA, THE FIRST HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THE
MIRASOL OF THE CANAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS, BUT THAT IS MY BACK
YARD.
THE MIRASOL, I CAN -- YOU KNOW -- I SEE IT EVERY DAY.
EXPOSED TO IT THE ENTIRE BACK SIDE OF IT OF THE MARINA.
I AM ALSO AN INVESTOR IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
I HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS 30 YEARS.
I HAVE DONE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF
FINANCING, AND ACTUALLY MADE AN OFFER ON THE MIRASOL IN
2016, WITH A PARTNER OF MINE, HAMILTON JONES, WHO ACTUALLY
OWNS THE PALACE OF FLORENCE AND USED TO OWN HUDSON MANOR.
WE OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY TOGETHER BUILT IN 1886 , A
HISTORIC PROPERTY, SO I KNOW ABOUT MAINTAINING HISTORIC
PROPERTY AND THE COST OF IT.
HE COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE WROTE A LETTER AND
SENT IN TO COUNCIL -- INTO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND HE OBJECTS OF THE LAND USE AMENDMENT AS WELL.
WE BOTH DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO SAVE THE MIRASOL.
WE THINK THE MIRASOL CAN BE SAVED AS APARTMENTS, JUST LIKE
OUR OTHER PROPERTIES THAT GOT FLOODED.
WE PAID TO FIX THEM UP, AND THEY ARE.
WE HAVE SAVED THEM THAT WAY.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MIRASOL
SITE.
THE TOP PHOTO HERE -- THAT IS AN AERIAL.
THAT IS MY HOME RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
THAT IS THE MIRASOL APARTMENTS, 2025 AERIAL VIEW.
THE BOTTOM PHOTO IN BLUE AND RED SEPARATES THE ORIGINAL
HOTEL SITE.
THE ORIGINAL MIRASOL HOTEL WAS ONLY ON DAVIS BOULEVARD.
IT WAS ABOUT HALF THE SIZE.
AND IT OPERATED ON DAVIS BOULEVARD, NOT THE WINGS ON THE TWO
RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
IN 1962, WHEN IT TURNED RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS, IT WAS
EXPANDED.
SO THE MIRASOL SITE IS ALMOST DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE HOTEL
SITE.
FIVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT WERE ADDED TO IT.
LAND USE AMENDMENT DOES MORE THAN TO ALLOW THE 100-YEAR-OLD
BUILDING TO BE A RESTORED HOTEL.
SEEKS TO AMEND THE LAND USE OF RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT LOTS
NEVER BEFORE USED AS HOTEL AND COMMERCIAL TO CMU-35 AS WELL.
WE WENT BACK AND DISCOVERED EACH OF THE ORIGINAL DEEDS IN
THE MIRASOL PROPERTY, AND THOSE EXPANSION LOTS, THE ONES IN
RED, THEY ALL INCLUDED DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT SAID THE LAND
SHALL ONLY BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, ALTHOUGH 100
YEARS OLD, THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE NO LONGER
ENFORCEABLE.
THEY CLEARLY SHOW THE ORIGINAL INTENT SEPARATING THE
RESIDENTIAL LOTS FROM THE ORIGINAL MIRASOL HOTEL.
AND UP THROUGH TONIGHT, A CENTURY LATER, THE RESIDENTIAL
EXPANSION PORTIONS OF THE MIRASOL SITE HAVE NEVER BEEN USED
FOR ANYTHING BUT RESIDENTIAL EVER BEFORE.
THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT IS NOT PRESERVING OR RESTORING THE
MIRASOL'S HISTORY, IT WOULD BE REWRITING IT.
ORIGINAL MIRASOL UNIT HAD 616 WITH NO ADALIA ACCESS, NO
ON-SITE PARKING LOT, NO POOL, AND NO BOAT DOCKS.
ALL CAME DECADES LATER AS PART OF THE APARTMENT CONVERSION.
UNDER CMU-35, THE ORIGINAL HOTEL COULD MORE THAN DOUBLE IN
SIZE ALLOWING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT
WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE USED FOR DIG BUT RESIDENTIAL SINCE
THE ISLANDS WERE PLATTED.
THIS LAND USE AMENDMENT IS NOT AN ACT OF PRESERVATION, BUT A
PATH TOWARD EXPANSION ON RESIDENTIAL LAND, AN EXPANSION
AINCONSISTENT WITH DAVIS ISLANDS HISTORY, ITS SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
LITTLE HISTORY THAT I FOUND.
AFTER IT WAS FORECLOSED ON IN 1931, FOUND CHANCERY RECORDS
THAT CONFIRMED THAT $15,000 SALE WAS SUBJECT TO FIVE YEARS
OF UNPAID TAXES.
THERE WAS A BIG TAX APPEAL LAWSUIT AT THE TIME.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN A GREAT -- IT STILL IS.
AN ELABORATE BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED BUILDING, BUT IT FACED
ALMOST IMMEDIATE FINANCIAL DISTRESS.
AND THE DECADES TO FOLLOW CHANGED HANDS REPEATEDLY GOING
THROUGH CLOSURES IN THE 1950s.
AS A HOTEL, THE MIRASOL WAS NEVER A SUCCESS AND NEVER RESOLD
FOR MORE THAN 20% OF WHAT IT COST TO BUILD.
ITS LAST SALE AS A HOTEL WAS FOR 150, AND ORIGINAL COST WAS
$750,000.
THE MIRASOL'S TRUE VALUE AND SUCCESS CAME FROM THE 1960s
WITH ITS RESIDENTIAL WATERFRONT EXPANSION.
SINCE THEN, IT HAS INCREASED IN VALUE AND PROVIDED STABLE
RESIDENTIAL USE FOR TWICE AS LONG AS IT EVER OPERATED AS A
HOTEL.
THE MIRASOL IS A DAVIS ISLAND GEM WITH HISTORIC AND
ARCHITECTURAL VALUE, BUT THE REAL VALUE NOW LIES IN ITS
1.62-ACRE SITE.
CMU REQUEST IS NOT ABOUT PRESERVING HISTORY BUT MAXIMIZING
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
CHARACTER.
THE AMENDMENT WOULD PERMANENTLY CHANGE 100-YEAR-OLD
RESIDENTIAL LANDS INTO HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE, PAVING
THE WAY FOR DEMOLITION RISK, EXPANSION AND REDEVELOPMENT OF
THE SITE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN CONCLUSION, COMMERCIAL LAND USES DO NOT BELONG IN THE
MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS
AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD FOLLOW THE UNANIMOUS INCONSISTENT
VOTE OF THE PLANNING BOARD ALONG WITH STAFF REPORTS OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:09:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
AND DON'T FORGET, IF YOU FINISH SPEAKING, IF YOU CAN CLEAR
THE ROOM FOR THE NEXT SET OF SPEAKERS.
08:10:02PM >> HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY TAMPA, I AM ANDREW DAVIS.
MY WIFE AND I LIVE THREE PROPERTIES WEST OF THE MIRASOL.
WE HAVE BEEN PROUD HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF DAVIS ISLANDS
FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, DEEPLY VALUING ITS UNIQUE RESIDENTIAL
AND FAMILY ENVIRONMENT.
PROFESSIONALLY, AS THE CEO FOR FIVE YEARS AND TWO PLUS
DECADES AND PRIOR EXPERIENCE AS A CFO OF ONE OF THE
LARGEST TELECOM COMPANIES, VERIZON AND SPRINT, I MANAGE
LONG-TERM DECISIONS LIKE WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY.
MIRASOL IS BORDERED BY SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH A
CHARACTER THAT IS UNIQUE TO DAVIS ISLANDS IN TAMPA, AND THIS
LAND USE CHANGE WOULD BE INVASIVE AND INCOMPATIBLE AS YOU
ALREADY HEARD WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD RESULTING FROM
THE COMBINED NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, VASTLY
INCREASED TRAFFIC OF BOTH WATER AND ROAD, NOISE, ELEVATION,
INVASION OF PRIVACY, ETC.
WHEN WE MOVED TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA, WE CONSCIOUSLY CHOSE TO
INVEST IN AND LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS RATHER THAN LOCATIONS IN
ST. PETE, CLEARWATER, WEST SHORE, ETC. BECAUSE OF ITS UNIQUE 08:11:15PM CHARACTER.
IN DOING SO, WE MADE THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL ASSUMPTION THAT
ANYONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LONG-TERM REAL ESTATE
DECISIONS MAKE.
THAT ASSUMPTION BEING THE PLANNING REGULATIONS AND
ASSOCIATED FRAMEWORK UPHELD WITH UNPEACHABLE RIGOR AND
DISCIPLINE AND ARMED SUBJECT OF CHANGE BASED ON RISK AND
CONFLATED RATIONALE, AND WE HAD PLENTY OF THAT TONIGHT.
THE MIRASOL HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MORE THAN
SIX DECADES.
ABSOLUTELY NO COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE ITS LAND USE NOW
IN A WAY THAT HARMS ITS NEIGHBORS AND TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE
DOING SO WOULD REALLY OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX AND POTENTIALLY
UNIMAGINABLE WAYS.
FOR THESE REASONS, I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU DENY THESE
PROPOSALS, AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
08:12:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:12:14PM >> HI, MY NAME IS JASON CLATMAN.
AND I HAVE NOT MET ANY OF YOU.
I DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO ENVISION IF
YOU LIVED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE FOR
THE POSSIBLE -- POSSIBILITY OF A HOTEL BEING BUILT THREE
DOORS DOWN FROM YOUR HOUSE WHERE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE,
BECAUSE THAT THE REALITY THAT IS FACING MY FAMILY.
I LIVE ON BALTIC CIRCLEM THREE HOUSES DOWN FROM THE MIRASOL.
I LIVED THERE FOR 18 YEARS.
AND IT IS A WONDERFUL, QUIET, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RAISE WITH MY WIFE OUR TWO KIDS.
THE IDEA THAT THE MIRASOL WOULD BE APPROVED FOR A MIXED USE
AND POSSIBILITY A HOTEL WOULD DESTROY WHAT HAS BEEN AN
AMAZING NEIGHBORHOOD TO GROW UP WITH MY FAMILY.
WE HAVE ALSO THE FEAR THAT WE DO LIVE ON THE WATER.
SO THE IDEA OF A POSSIBILITY OF A MARINA WHERE THEY COULD
HAVE COMMERCIAL USE.
THEY COULD HAVE BOATS GOING IN AND OUT.
TOURS.
PLACE WHERE KIDS FISH OFF THE DOCK.
PADDLEBOARDS BECOME A SAFETY ISSUE AND ALL IS CONCERNING.
IN OUR BACK YARD WHERE WE HEAR A LITTLE NOISE AROUND THE POOL,
BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE A HOTEL, 100 PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVING A
PARTY.
THE AMOUNT OF NOISE THAT WOULD CAUSE FOR OUR HOUSE AND THE
SURROUNDING HOUSES ON THE CANAL.
BEEN HERE THE WHOLE NIGHT TONIGHT, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE
OWNER OF A HOUSE ON BALTIC CIRCLE OR ADALIA COME AND TALKING
FOR THE AMENDMENT.
THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE AND HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.
I HEARD ONE SPEAKER FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT THOUGHT IT WOULD
BE A NICE CONVENIENCE FOR HER FAMILY TO GO VISIT HER IN THE
HOSPITAL WHEN SHE HAD A BABY.
THAT IS A NICE CONVENIENCE, BUT THAT FAMILY CAN LEAVE AFTER
A FEW DAYS WHERE AS MENTIONED BEFORE, LIVING THREE DOORS
DOWN FROM THE MIRASOL, I WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE
INCREASED TRAFFIC, NOISE, 24-7, NOT WHAT I THOUGHT OF WHEN I
MOVED MY FAMILY TO DAVIS ISLANDS.
I TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
AND MY FRIENDS WHEN I ASK THEM WHERE I LIVE, I SAY I LIVE ON
DAVIS ISLANDS.
AND WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT IT IS WHEN I AM COMING HOME, I
DRIVE OVER THE BRIDGE, AND I GET THIS CALMING FEELING.
IF YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THE LAND USE AMENDMENT, THAT FEELING
WILL BE GONE FOREVER.
THANK YOU.
08:15:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
FOR THOSE OF HOW ARE DOWNSTAIRS, IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS 34-66.
34-66, IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE THIRD FLOOR AND WAIT
TO BE LET IN.
WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
OKAY, GO AHEAD.
START ABOUT YOUR NAME.
08:15:18PM >> JESSIE ROTER AT 106 CHESAPEKE ON THE ISLAND.
HOWEVER, I WAS A RESIDENT AT 84 DAVIS BOULEVARD IN THE
MIRASOL FOR FIVE YEARS.
YOU HEARD A LOT FROM THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF HOW MUCH IT
IS GREAT AND WONDERFUL, AND THIS TEAM IS AMAZING.
I CAN COMPLETELY CONTRADICT THAT.
THEY ARE USING SCARE TACTICS AND STATING IF THIS LAND IS NOT
USED, THE BUILDING WILL BE TORN DOWN.
WHEN THEY INITIALLY PURCHASED THIS BUILDING, THEY HAD STATED
THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT A HOTEL.
THEIR INITIAL PURCHASE WAS FOR A HOTEL.
PRIOR TO THE HURRICANE, MIRASOL WAS SMALL COMMUNITY RESIDENCE.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
THEY SAY NOBODY LIVED THERE SINCE 2020.
WE HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR YEARS.
SINCE THE HURRICANE, THERE HAVE BEEN A STRATEGIC AND
ERADICATION OF LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AT THE MIRASOL, WHICH IS
WHY THERE IS NO ONE THERE NOW ANYMORE.
WE HAD BEEN THERE.
I WAS THE SHORTEST ONE THERE AT FIVE YEARS.
OTHERS HAD LIVED THERE DECADES.
ACTUALLY, SADLY, DIED THERE AFTER 19 YEARS.
WE HAD A COMMUNITY.
I KNEW PEOPLE AS MY GRANDMA KNEW.
WE HELPED EACH OTHER AS FRIENDS.
OVER THESE PAST FEW YEARS, NO, THE LAND USE DOESN'T CHANGE,
BUT THEY CHANGED THE MIRASOL INSIDE TO AIRBnBS.
THEY ARE RENTING OUT THEIR HOTELS -- THE ROOMS ALREADY AS
NIGHTLY HOTELS.
WE HAVE HAD PARTIES IN THE LOBBIES.
WE HAD TRASH ALL OVER OUR POOL.
IT IS A TRAVESTY ALREADY WHICH IS WHY WE MOVED OUT.
IT BECAME DIFFERENT WITH TRANSIENTS.
I WAS UNSAFE LIVING BY MYSELF AND MY DOG.
SO I'M HERE AS A PAST LEASEE TO SAY NO TO THIS.
THE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN I WATCHED IN CAR ACCIDENTS ON
ADALIA BOULEVARD. AND I PULLED OUT A FOUR-YEAR-OLD FROM A
TESLA AFTER THEY WERE T-BONED IS NOT WHAT WE NEED WITH MORE
TRAFFIC ON THIS LAND USE.
I HAVE WATCHED MANY IN MY FIVE YEARS THERE.
TRACKED THREE TO FOUR ACCIDENTS EVERY YEAR AT THE CORNER OF
ADALIA AND DAVIS BOULEVARD.
THIS LAND USE ALSO NOT ONLY ADD TO TRAFFIC BUT ALSO TAKES
AWAY FROM THE SMALL COMMUNITY THAT WE ALREADY HAD.
WE LOST OUR COMMUNITY AT THE MIRASOL.
THE 54 OF US DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE, AND NOW THERE ARE NEW
RESIDENTS AND CONSTANT AIRBnBs.
IT ALREADY HAS BECOME TRANSIENT.
AND THEIR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IS THEIR DECISIONS.
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE WAS HAPPENING WAY BEFORE THE
HURRICANES.
IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF HURRICANES.
IT IS BECAUSE OF NEGLECT.
THANK YOU.
08:18:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
08:18:09PM >> MAT SERKLOWSKI.
GOOD EVENING.
I AM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I'M HERE
TONIGHT TO EXPRESS THE STRONG SUPPORT OF THE MIRASOL
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
MIRASOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
IT IS A COMMUNITY LANDMARK A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR
NEARLY 100 YEARS.
ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS A HOTEL IN THE 1920s, IT SERVED
MANY GENERATIONS, AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS A THOUGHTFUL
RESTORATION OF THE LEGACY AND RESPECTS THIS COMMUNITY
CHARACTER AND HISTORY.
OVER THE 2024 HURRICANE SEASON WITH HELENE AND MILTON, IT
BECANE VULNERABLE HOW COASTAL BUILDINGS ARE.
COSTS $274 BILLION LOCALLY WITH SOME STORM SURGE IN TAMPA
BAY WITH EIGHT FEET.
NO ONE WANTS TO EXPERIENCE THAT AGAIN, BUT IT IS A REALITY
LIVING ON FLORIDA'S GULF COAST.
WE CAN PREPARE.
ALLOW THE MIRASOL TO BE RESTORED WITH MODERN STRUCTURAL AND
MECHANICAL SYSTEMS SO THIS HISTORIC PROPERTY IS EQUIPPED TO
WITHSTAND THE CHALLENGES OF THE NEXT 100 YEARS.
SINCE FIRST SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION, OWNERS HAVE
LISTENED CAREFULLY TO THE COMMUNITY AND MADE MEANINGFUL
CHANGES DESPITE WHAT YOU HAD HEARD TONIGHT.
THEY PRESERVED HISTORIC VIEW VULNERABLE WITH COASTAL,
INCREASED BUILDING HEIGHT, AND REDUCED SQUARE FOOT AND
REDESIGNATED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION TO INCREASE EFFICIENCY.
THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
TO CMU-35 IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE MIRASOL SINCE IT EXISTS 500
FEET WITH THE HUDSON.
MIRASOL WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO OPERATE AS A HOTEL AND A
FOCAL POINT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEVELOPING VACANT LAND BUT RETURNING MIRASOL
TO ITS ORIGINAL USE.
PROJECT SUPPORTS THE BROADER COMMUNITY AS TAMPA GENERAL
HOSPITAL CONTINUES ITS MAJOR 134-STORY, 565,000-SQUARE-FOOT
EXPANSION.
DAVIS ISLANDS HAS LIMITED LODGING OPTIONS FOR VISITING
FAMILIES AND MEDICAL STAFF.
THOUGHTFUL REDEVELOPMENT LIKE THE MIRASOL HELPS AND
SUPPORTING THE GROWING NEED.
NOT A DEVELOPMENT FROM NEW YORK OR MIAMI TRYING TO GET A
QUICK PROFIT.
FRANK AND LINDSEY LIVE HERE AND RAISED THEIR KIDS ON DAVIS
ISLANDS.
THEY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR A DECADE.
THEY BUILD REAL RELATIONSHIPS AND SUPPORTED THEIR LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
REINVESTING IN THIS PROPERTY COME FROM A GENUINE COMMITMENT
AND THE PLACE THEY CALL HOME.
WHAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK IS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS.
AFTER WHAT WE EXPERIENCED DURING 2024 HURRICANE SEASON, IT
DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE A THOUGHTFUL STEP NOW AND
PREPARE ONE OF TAMPA'S MOST HISTORIC PROPERTIES FOR THE NEXT
100 YEARS.
APPROVING THIS PLAN OFFERS THE MIRASOL'S LEGACY, STRENGTHENS
ITS FUTURE, AND THE LANDMARK WILL SERVE DAVIS ISLANDS
COMMUNITIES.
I SPENT MY CAREER WORKING IN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT,
FINANCING AND SALES, A FUTURE WITH MULTIFAMILY DOES NOT MAKE
SENSE AND NOT A PATH FORWARD.
HOTEL AND A COMPLETE REVAMP OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND
REPURPOSING IT IS THE PATH FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
08:21:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THAT HAVEN'T SPOKE?
IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, YOU NEED TO CLEAR THE ROOM OF
PEOPLE SO WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR EVERYBODY ELSE THAT NEEDS TO
SPEAK.
IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN, GO WATCH THE HEARING FROM
DOWNSTAIRS.
IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON LEAVING BUILDING, PLEASE LEAVE YOUR
NUMBER.
GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR, AND WE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP NEXT
TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR COOPERATION.
OKAY.
NEXT SPEAKER.
08:21:53PM >> I HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
08:21:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
GOOD EVENING, LINDA.
OKAY.
ATTORNEY IS GOING TO READ NAMES OF THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
IF YOU WERE IN THE ROOM, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE BY RAISING YOUR
HAND OR STANDING UP.
IF YOU WERE DOWNSTAIRS, PLEASE COME UPSTAIRS TO THE THIRD
FLOOR TO BE RECOGNIZED IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
08:22:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HARRIET PLIER.
08:22:23PM >> HERE SHE IS.
HARRIET, THEY JUST CALLED YOUR NAME.
08:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HARRIET.
08:22:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HARRIET.
08:22:30PM >> I AM HARRIET.
08:22:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
SHANNON TEPLONY.
ARE YOU HERE?
THANK YOU.
SHAWNEE WIGGS.
OR SHAWN.
SHAWN WIGGS.
08:22:51PM >> SHE IS OUT HERE.
08:22:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN SHE COME INTO THE CHAMBERS, PLEASE.
08:22:56PM >> WHAT IS THE NEXT NAME.
08:23:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS THE LAST.
I HAVE SOME NAMES CROSSED OUT.
LAUREN CAMPBELL AND KEVIN JACKSON ARE CROSSED OUT.
I AM WAITING FOR ONE, TWO AND A THIRD TO GIVE YOU A TOTAL OF
SIX MINUTES.
08:23:18PM >> THAT'S OKAY.
PLENTY OF TIME.
08:23:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE?
OKAY.
THAT IS THREE AND TWO SO FIVE MINUTES.
08:23:25PM >> GOOD EVENING.
I AM LINDA SAUL-SENA, AND I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS, THREE
BLOCKS FROM THE MIRASOL.
IT IS FUN TO SEE MANY FAMILIAR FACES HERE TONIGHT.
AND MANY PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT I'M HERE AS THEIR
LONG-TIME NEIGHBOR AND PRESERVATIONIST THAT I AM SIDING WITH
SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE A CHANGE ON THE ISLAND, BUT
ACTUALLY I'M HERE AS A PASSIONATE PRESERVATIONIST.
LITTLE BACKGROUND.
I WAS BORN AT TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
I WAS RAISED ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
AND I NOW LIVE ON A HOUSE ON THE ISLAND THAT I HAVE BEEN FOR
35 YEARS.
MY MOM STARTED THE DAVIS ISLANDS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
AND AS A YOUNG PERSON, I MOVE BACK TO TAMPA AND WORKED AS A
PLANNER ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WROTE THE DAVIS
ISLANDS PLAN.
I SERVED AS A MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR 20 YEARS, AND
I ALWAYS SUPPORTED HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
I -- IN MARCH OF 2024, I ORGANIZED THE 100-YEAR CELEBRATION
FOR DAVIS ISLANDS BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED IN 1924.
AND WE HAD 12 BUILDINGS.
SOME OF YOU PARTICIPATED.
IT WAS A FABULOUS TOUR.
WE ENDED UP AT THE MIRASOL, AND RODNEY KITE-POWELL, THE
HISTORIAN WHO WROTE THE BOOK THE HISTORY OF DAVIS ISLANDS,
WAS OUR SPEAKER.
SO I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CARE ABOUT MIRASOL AND ABOUT
DAVIS ISLANDS.
SO LET ME TELL YOU WHY I AM SO SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN BEAUTY.
AND THE MIRASOL IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS IN
OUR COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY ONE OF MOST BEAUTIFUL ONES ON
DAVIS ISLANDS.
NOW IN 1927, DAVIS ISLANDS WON THE AMERICAN PLANNING
ASSOCIATION AWARD FOR THE BEST PLANNED COMMUNITY IN AMERICA,
WHICH I THINK IT A BIG DEAL.
IT HAD A VARIETY OF LAND USES.
IT HAD MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND HAD THIS HOTEL THAT
EXISTED WHEN IT WAS GIVEN THE AWARD SURROUNDED BY HOMES AND
APARTMENTS.
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN A MIXTURE OF USES, WHICH TO ME SAYS URBAN,
VIBRANT AND HEALTHY.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT AS YOU KNOW FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
DICTATE QUALITY.
I TRIED IT.
IT IS REALLY HARD.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW -- YOU CAN TALK ABOUT A NUMBER
OF THINGS LEGISLATIVELY, BUT ULTIMATELY, IT COMES DOWN TO
WHAT IS -- WHAT THE -- THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDER OR
DEVELOPER HAS IN MIND.
IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH A RAW PIECE OF
PROPERTY.
IF WE WERE, YOU WOULD ALL BE TERRIFIED THAT IT IS
CURRENTLY R-50 BECAUSE COULD BE SOME HUGE THING.
WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH IS THE REALITY OF THIS BEAUTIFUL
HISTORIC BUILDING THAT IS THERE.
AND THE PROPOSED LAND USE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED AS A -- AS
A PLAN AMENDMENT -- I MEAN, NOT A PLAN AMENDMENT, EXCUSE ME,
A MAP AMENDMENT, WOULD JUST ALLOW THIS EXISTING BEAUTIFUL
HISTORIC BUILDING TO RETURN TO ITS ORIGINAL USE AS A HOTEL.
AND I -- I HAVE SEEN SO MUCH CHANGE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
SPECIFICALLY SINCE THE HURRICANES, WE UNFORTUNATELY
HAVE ALREADY LOST 10% OF OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
AND THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ARE -- TO MY EYE,
THEY ARE MOSTLY DREADFUL.
USING EVERY SQUARE INCH THAT IS AVAILABLE.
THEY ARE TOO BIG.
THEY ARE INAPPROPRIATE.
WHAT -- WHAT THE CHARACTER -- THE CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND
NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED, SUPPORTED AND WHATEVER LEFT THAT IS
HISTORIC NEEDS TO BE -- NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTED IN WHATEVER
WAY WE CAN.
THEREFORE, I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU -- FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY
HEART TO SUPPORT THIS MAP AMENDMENT TO ALLOW PRESERVATION OF
THIS JEWEL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:27:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
NEXT SPEAKER?
WHY DON'T WE PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE COME
IN.
PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO LET MORE PEOPLE COME IN.
08:27:42PM >> IS THIS WHERE I AM SPEAKING?
08:27:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON, SO YOU CAN GET OUR FULL UNDIVIDED
ATTENTION.
IS THAT IT?
08:28:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
PEOPLE AT THE GATE.
08:28:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
COME ON IN.
TAKE A SEAT.
APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
YOU CAN IMAGINE -- WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED CAPACITY, SO THE
LOGISTICS IS DIFFICULT.
WELCOME.
DARLENE, HOW MANY MORE ARE OUT THERE?
OKAY.
WE WILL WAIT.
WE WILL WAIT NOW OR WAIT LATER SO WE MIGHT WELL WAIT NOW.
ANYBODY WANT TO SING?
08:29:42PM >> DON'T LET HIM.
[LAUGHTER]
08:29:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN DO COUNCIL KARAOKE RIGHT NOW.
LYNN IS GONE.
SHE IS OUR RINGER.
SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:31:23PM >> THANK YOU.
SARAH LASH.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TODAY.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO
ALLOW THE MIRASOL TO RETURN TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE AS A
HOTEL.
AS A STUDENT AT U.T. IN THE '90s, I LIVED IN THE MIRASOL, SO
I CAN APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
I CAN EVEN REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME THAT ME AND MY ROOMMATE
WENT TO THE -- WENT TO THE CONDO TO LOOK AT IT -- TO THE
APARTMENT TO LOOK AT IT.
WE WALKED THROUGH THE BACK GATES.
AND WE SAW THE WATERFRONT POOL, THE SHADED TERRACE, THE
SAILBOATS WERE DOCKED THERE.
AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THAT FROM BEHIND.
I CAN ONLY SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS FROM THE STREET.
AND IT WAS GORGEOUS.
THAT WAS REALLY WHEN I FELL IN LOVE WITH TAMPA.
AND THAT FEELING HAS STAYED WITH ME.
SINCE THEN, I HAVE BUILT A LIFE HERE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I HAVE RAISED MY CHILDREN.
AND I REALLY RAISED THEM WITH THE AFFINITY FOR THE ISLAND.
WE GO THERE OFTEN.
WE FREQUENT THE COFFEE SHOP EVER SINCE THEY WERE LITTLE.
WE DON'T LOOK AT DAVIS ISLANDS AS A GATED COMMUNITY.
I ENJOY FREQUENTING IT.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RAISE CHILDREN TO FEEL CONNECTED
TO THE PLACES THAT THEY LIVE.
AND PLACES LIKE THE MIRASOL I BELIEVE DO THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MY CHILDREN TO THIS BUILDING AS WE
HAVE PASSED AND DRIVEN BY IT.
I SAID THAT IS WHERE MOMMY LIVED WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE.
BUT THEY HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO SEE THE INSIDE.
AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE HERE HAD DESCRIBED, THE INSIDE
IS PRETTY MAGICAL.
IT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
ENJOY.
THANK YOU.
08:33:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:33:15PM >> HI, RODNEY KITE-POWELL.
MY NAME HAS BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY.
I AM A HISTORIAN.
I WROTE THE BOOK ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
AND I AM REALLY HERE TO ALMOST -- KIND OF GRATIFYING TO HEAR
HOW MUCH APPRECIATION THERE IS FOR THE HISTORY OF THE ISLAND
AND FOR THIS BUILDING.
BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE SOME THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE
HEARD AND ALSO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
ONE PERSON MENTIONED ABOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF.
I WILL USE THIS -- I APOLOGIZE IT IS ON MY PHONE.
I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE DOING ANYTHING WITH THIS.
08:33:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN SEE THAT.
08:33:48PM >> THAT IS WHAT THE MIRASOL LOOKED LIKE AS IT WAS BEING
BUILT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IS BASICALLY THE SAME BUILDING THAT IT
IS TODAY
08:33:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THE TOP OF THE WOLF, THERE IS A DIAL
WHERE YOU CAN ZOOM IT IN.
THE TV PEOPLE ARE DOING IT FOR YOU.
08:34:04PM >> TECHNOLOGY IS NOT MY FRIEND.
BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO SHOW THAT THE MASS OF THE BUILDING AS IT
IS TODAY IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS IT WAS.
THERE WASN'T ANY KIND OF LARGE ADDITION DONE IN THE '60s
WHEN IT WAS CONVERTED FROM USE FROM A HOTEL TO
APARTMENTS.
BUT TO REITERATE SOME THINGS THAT WERE SAID.
DAVIS ISLANDS DID INDEED WIN A PLANNING AWARD.
IT IS INTERESTING THAT THE -- THAT PLANNING COMMISSION IS --
IS NOT APPROVING THIS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PLAN, YOU KNOW,
AGAIN, WAS AN AWARD-WINNING PLAN, AND IT IS REALLY DONE IN
SUCH A WAY THAT YOU HAVE THE SEPARATION FROM MULTIFAMILY,
COMMERCIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY.
AND DAVIS BOULEVARD IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT SUPPLIES
THOSE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL USES IN A PRETTY EFFICIENT
WAY.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SUPPOSED TO BE A HOTEL AT THE END OF
BISCAYNE AND BLANCA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA,
BUT BISCAYNE WAS MADE WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS DAVIS
BOULEVARD WAS MADE WIDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC THAT WE
ANTICIPATE AND SEE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND THAT COMMERCIAL
MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACT IS THAT DAVIS ISLAND NOT ONLY HAD AN
AWARD-WINNING POLICE OFFICER, BUT DESIGN GUIDELINES ATTACHED
TO THE ISLAND ORIGINALLY.
THAT IS WHY ALL THE BUILDINGS LOOKED THE SAME.
OVER 100 BUILDINGS BUILT ON THE ISLAND, MIRASOL BEING ONE OF
THEM AND MISS SAUL-SENA SAID WE LOST SEVERAL.
AND 50 TO 60 HISTORICAL BUILDINGS LEFT ON THE ISLAND.
I BELIEVE IT IS IMPERATIVE TO SAVE THIS BUILDING, AND THIS IS
PROBABLY THE MOST PRACTICAL WAY TO DO IT.
TO FORGO THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS WITH A
WILLING OWNER NOW THEN IF IT WERE TO SELL AND SOME KIND OF
CONTENTION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO CHANGE THE USE AND FORCE OR
AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO FORCE PRESERVATION ON AN UNWILLING
PARTICIPANT THAT IS NOT THE BEST USE OF ANYBODY'S TIME AND
GENERALLY DOES NOT WORK OUT THAT WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:36:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:36:16PM >> GOOD EVENING, DANIELLE SHOEMAKER.
I GO BY DANI, A SINGLE MOTHER OF TWO AND RESIDENTIAL
DESIGNER AND WORKED ON HOMES ON EVERY STREET ON DAVIS
ISLANDS, BIG AND SMALL AND OLD AND NEW.
LIVING ON DAVIS ISLANDS FOR OVER 18 YEARS, AND I NEVER ONCE
STEPPED INTO THE MIRASOL UNTIL THE RECENT OPEN HOUSE.
WHEN THE OWNERS INVITED THE COMMUNITY IN TO EXPERIENCE THIS
BEAUTIFUL STORIED STRUCTURE.
I WAS QUITE AMAZED BY IT, ESPECIALLY AS AN INTERIOR
DESIGNER.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE PASSING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE MIRASOL.
AFTER THE HURRICANE, LIKE MANY DAVIS ISLANDS RESIDENTS, I
LOST MY HOME AND WAS FORCED TO MAKE INCREDIBLY FAST AND
DIFFICULT DECISION ABOUT WHERE MY CHILDREN AND I WOULD LIVE.
I GAVE MYSELF JUST 48 HOURS.
I STILL GET EMOTIONAL WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT THIS.
I GAVE MYSELF 48 HOURS AFTER HURRICANE HELENE TO DECIDE WHAT
THE NEXT DECADE OF MY FAMILY'S LIFE WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE,
BECAUSE AS A SINGLE MOTHER, I HAD TO MAKE THESE QUICK
DECISIONS.
MY OPTIONS WERE LIMITED AND EXTREMELY CHALLENGING.
REBUILDING WAS NOT FINANCIALLY POSSIBLE.
SELLING WOULD HAVE MEANT TAKING A LOSS.
I EVEN CONSIDERED REZONING MY 104-FOOT-WIDE LOT BY 103 FEET
DEEP INTO TWO PARCELS.
AS ANYONE IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT PROCESS TAKES YEARS AND
REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT MONEY NEITHER OF WHICH I HAD.
SO I DID WHAT MANY RESIDENTS WERE FORCED TO DO, I USED MY
PERSONAL FUNDS TO MOVE WATER MITIGATION AND RESTORATION
FORWARD SO MY CHILDREN AND I COULD RETURN TO OUR HOME WITHIN
A FAIRLY REASONABLE TIME.
LONG BEFORE ANY INSURANCE FUNDS WOULD ARRIVE.
MORE THAN A YEAR LATER, THOSE FUNDS HAVE STILL YET TO COME
THROUGH.
THAT PERSPECTIVE MATTERS.
BECAUSE THE MIRASOL OWNERSHIP FACED THE SAME PRESSURE, ONLY
ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE.
THEY WERE REASONABLE -- THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE NOT JUST FOR
THEMSELVES BUT MORE THAN 56 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
ASKING RESIDENTS TO VACATE LONG TERM WAS NOT REALISTIC, SO
THEY INVESTED SIGNIFICANT PERSONNEL CAPITAL FOR BASIC
ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING AND SAFETY SYSTEMS SO THESE RESIDENTS
COULD RETURN TO THEIR HOMES.
THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT MORE DAVIS ISLAND
RESIDENTS DISPLACED WITH NOWHERE TO LIVE.
BUT TEMPORARY FIXES ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE.
UNTIL THE BUILDING IS FULLY BROUGHT UP TO CODE, MONEY WILL
CONTINUE TO BE SPENT INEFFICIENTLY AND REPEATEDLY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS ONLY VIABLE PATH OF
RESTORING THE NONHISTORIC BUT HISTORIC STRUCTURE
RESPONSIBLY.
BY RETURNING THE MIRASOL TO ITS ORIGINAL 1926 HOTEL USE AND
PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF WHAT WE KNOW AS DAVIS ISLANDS.
I AM SORRY, I KNOW THAT THAT TIME IS UP, I RESPECTFULLY URGE
THE COMMITTEE TO APPROVE THE MIRASOL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SO
THIS PROPERTY CAN BE RESTORED RESPONSIBLY AND CONTINUE
SERVICING DAVIS ISLANDS RESIDENTS FOR YEARS TO COME.
THANK YOU.
08:39:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THIS IS JUST
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER AND YOU ARE FINISHED AND GOING TO LEAVE
THE BUILDING AFTER THIS, IF YOU WOULD LEAVE YOUR NUMBER.
IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 2, KEEP YOUR NUMBER AND
WE WILL RECYCLE YOU BACK THROUGH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:39:40PM >> HI, MY NAME IS DEB BROOKS.
I AM A RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND AND HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF PASSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE MIRASOL.
I WANT TO START BY SAYING I DIDN'T COME TO THIS LIGHTLY.
I ATTENDED AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING I SAW POSTED ON SOCIAL
MEDIA WHERE THE TEAM WALKED THROUGH THEIR PLANS TO SAVE THE
MIRASOL.
WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS HOW THOUGHTFUL AND RESPONSIBLE THE
APPROACH IS AND HOW DEEPLY IT RESPECTS THE CHARACTER AND
HISTORY OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
MIRASOL IS NOT JUST A BUILDING.
IT IS PART OF THE IDENTITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND A KEY
PIECE OF THE ORIGINAL DAVIS ISLANDS MASTER PLAN FROM THE
1920s.
BUILT AS A HOTEL INTENTIONALLY PLACED ALONG AN INTERIOR
BOULEVARD TO SERVE AS AN AMENITY FOR THE SURROUNDING
RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND ALLOWING IT TO FUNCTION AS HOTEL
AGAIN HONORS THAT ORIGINAL VISION RATHER THAN CHANGING IT.
THE PROPOSED CMU-35 DESIGNATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE.
IT EXISTS IN THE ISLAND IN THE VILLAGE AND ALONG DAVIS
BOULEVARD.
AND THOSE AREAS HAVE NOT LOST THE CHARACTER OR HARMED NEARBY
NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN FACT, THE VILLAGE IS THE HEART OF DAVIS ISLANDS AND
THOUGHTFUL SCALED COMMERCIAL USES ARE PART OF WHAT MAKES IT
THRIVE.
I UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT THE CONCERN IS
VALID, BUT THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN EVALUATED THROUGH A
PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY.
IT SHOWS IMPACTS THAT WILL BE MINIMAL.
WHAT CANNOT BE MINIMIZED IS THE LOSS OF THIS HISTORIC
LANDMARK IF WE DENY IT THE FLEXIBILITY NEEDED TO SURVIVE.
PASSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT IS A VOTE FOR
PRESERVATION, STEWARDSHIP, ALIGNED WITH BOTH THE HISTORIC
VISION AND THE PRESENT NEEDS OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
08:41:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
08:41:34PM >> YES.
08:41:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, READ THE NAMES.
IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
08:41:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEVEN NAMES.
LORI HARWELL.
THANK YOU WILL SPEAK OUT IF YOU CAN TOO AS WELL.
THAT WILL HELP ME.
JOE RANDALL.
08:41:49PM >> HERE.
08:41:50PM >> LINDA TISCHMAN.
08:41:53PM >> HERE.
08:41:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
TAMMY CRAWFORD.
08:41:55PM >> HERE.
08:41:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
KAREN -- THANK YOU.
STEVE HARDING.
08:42:03PM >> HERE.
08:42:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
AND TAMARA COREA.
08:42:10PM >> HERE.
08:42:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TOTAL OF SEVEN AND TEN MINUTES.
08:42:14PM >> I'M LINDA MEISNER AND SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND SEVEN OF MY
NEIGHBORS, AND WE LIVE ON ADALIA.
WE ARE ON ADALIA.
I AM NOT SAYING I LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA OR DAVIS ISLANDS.
I LIVE ON ADALIA.
I LIVE HOUSES AWAY FROM THE MIRASOL.
THAT IS MY STREET.
I LIVED THERE 32 YEARS AND NOT THE ONLY PROPERTY I OWN ON
DAVIS ISLANDS.
I OWN A SMALL HISTORIC 75-YEAR-OLD APARTMENT BUILDING LESS
THAN 500 FEET AWAY FROM THE MIRASOL.
SO I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.
WE FLOODED.
THEY FLOODED.
IT IS A CHALLENGE OWNING AN OLDER BUILDING, BUT WE ARE DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE IT.
AND IT IS ALSO ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
I AM NOT AGAINST SAVING THE MIRASOL, BUT I INSIST THAT THE
MIRASOL STAY RESIDENTIAL.
I AM AGAINST A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT OR NEED A LARGE
COMMERCIAL COMPLEX ON OUR ISLAND.
WE CHOSE TO LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS BECAUSE WE LIKE THE SMALL
TOWN FEEL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LAND USE CHANGE TO CMU-35
IS NOT IN LINE WITH THAT STYLE OF LIVING.
THE CITY STAFF AND THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION ARE ALL IN
AGREEMENT THAT ZONING CHANGE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND INCREASES THE DENSITY IN A COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
I JUST HEARD THE CITY STAFFER EXPLAIN THAT THIS LAND USE
CHANGE COULD ALLOW FOR A MASSIVE PROJECT ON THE PROPERTY.
"MASSIVE" WAS HIS WORD.
NOTHING ON MY SMALL RESIDENTIAL DAVIS ISLANDS STREET SHOULD
BE MASSIVE OR COMMERCIAL.
IF WE START TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND PARKING
GARAGES IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHAT
IS NEXT?
WHERE DOES THE NONCONFORMING AND NONCONSISTENT DEVELOPENT
STOP?
FLOODING ON DAVIS ISLANDS EVEN DURING A REGULAR RAINSTORM IS
BAD.
ALL FOUR LANES OF DAVIS BOULEVARD FLOOD JUST FROM A SUMMER
STORM.
DURING HURRICANE HELENE, THE MIRASOL AND OUR PROPERTIES AND
NEIGHBORS' PROPERTIES FLOODED WITH THREE FEET OF WATER.
MY FAMILY LOST VEHICLES AND SUSTAINED DAMAGE TO OUR
PROPERTIES.
ALL DUE TO THE OVERBUILDING BEING ALLOWED ON DAVIS ISLANDS
ALONG WITH THE AGING FLOODWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONLY
WORSE WITHOUT A MAJOR FLOOD PLAN UPGRADE TO ALL THE
SURROUNDING STREETS.
YET THERE IS NO PLAN IN THE WORKS TO SUPPORT ALL THE LARGE
NEW RESIDENTIAL HOMES BEING BUILT ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
I HEARD THE MIRASOL OWNERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN BLAME THE
NEED FOR REPAIRS ON THE -- ON HELENE.
BUT NEARBY RESIDENTS KNOW THEY LET THIS BUILDING FALL INTO
DISREPAIR LONG BEFORE HELENE.
HELENE IS A CONVENIENT EXCUSE AT THIS POINT.
WE ALL HEARD THE OWNER MENTION EARLIER TONIGHT THEIR ISSUES
ARE DUE TO DELAYED MAINTENANCE.
THOSE ARE HIS WORDS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DELAYING MAINTENANCE
FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THE OWNER OF THE MIRASOL BOUGHT A 100-YEAR-OLD RESIDENTIAL
BUILDINGS, AND THEY WANT -- THEY WANT -- THEY DON'T NEED TO,
BUT THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO A COMMERCIAL COMPLEX TO
MAXIMIZE THEIR FINANCIAL GAIN.
THIS MESS FALLS ON THEM AND NOT THE NEARBY NEIGHBORS FOR US
ALL TO HELP FIX IT.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WITH 130 UNITS IS TO BE A BOUTIQUE.
A BOUTIQUE?
I LOOKED UP AT DEFINITION OF A BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND DEFINED AS
LESS THAN 100 UNITS.
LET'S CALL THIS WHAT IT IS.
THEY WANT TO DEVELOP A HUGE COMMERCIAL HOTEL, EVENT CENTER,
AND BAR AND RESTAURANT.
PARKING GARAGES, LOADING DOCKS, DELIVERY FROM
TRACTOR-TRAILERS, AND A TRASH INCINERATOR.
WHO HERE WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO SUCH A MASSIVE COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT.
OWNERS DON'T LIVE ON THE STREET OR THE NEXT STREET.
THEY LIVE ON THE BACK OF THE ISLAND.
THIS ENTIRE LAND USE CHANGE IS SOMEWHAT RIDICULOUS.
NOT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC BUILDING AS THEY CLAIM.
THE CHANGES THEY ARE REQUESTING WILL NOT PRESERVE THE
BUILDING OR ITS HISTORY.
THEY HAVE NOT PROTECTED IT AS HISTORIC, AND THERE WILL BE
NOTHING TO KEEP THE OWNERS NOW OR IN THE FUTURE FROM
KNOCKING THE ENTIRE THING DOWN AND BUILDING ANY
COMMERCIAL CMU-35 STRUCTURE THEY WANT.
IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SAVE THE MIRASOL, I CHALLENGE THEM
TO DO IT RIGHT AND DESIGNATE IT AS HISTORICALLY PRESERVED.
I HEARD THERE ARE FORMS AROUND HERE THEY CAN FILL OUT
TONIGHT TO DO THAT.
WITH DAVIS ISLANDS BEING A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
SHOULDN'T THAT BY ITSELF DISQUALIFY AND CHANGE THE
INTENSITY?
I WENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE MEETING ON DAVIS ISLAND WHERE
THEY CAME AND THEY EXPLAINED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO US.
AND THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE THERE THAT STATED THAT THE
PLANNED GOAL WAS NOT TO INCREASE THE DENSITY ON THE ISLAND.
LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THAT VERY IMPORTANT GOAL.
WE DO NOT NEED AND WE CAN'T NOT AFFORD TO AND OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE REQUEST NOT SUPPORT INCREASED DENSITY AND
INTENSITY ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
WE ALREADY HAD SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC.
YOU HEARD OF THE TRAFFIC.
SO DANGEROUS TO CROSS THE STREET AT DAVIS ISLAND.
MY DOG AND I CROSS AT THE CROSSWALKS, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE VEHICLES ACTUALLY STOP TO PUT A FOOT ON THE
CROSSWALKS BECAUSE THESE VEHICLES ARE NOT STOPPING.
NOT A SAFE ROAD.
THE THOUGHT OF AN ADDITIONAL 13,000 MORE VEHICLE TRIPS A
DAY?
THIS IS NOT A LAND USE THAT WE WANT.
SUPPORTING EMERGENCY SERVICES.
CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS CONTINUOUSLY SPOKEN OUT AGAINST
MORE BUILDING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES CANNOT HANDLE THE OVERDEVELOPMENT.
LET'S NOT ADD TO IT WITH A LAND USE CHANGE.
I LIVE ON A SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREET AND TAUGHT MY KIDS TO
BIKE.
HOW SAFE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE KIDS BIKE ON THE STREET
WITH TRACTOR-TRAILERS BACKING INTO A LOADING DOCK.
NOTHING SAFE ABOUT THAT.
WE DO NOT NEED VALET SPEEDING THROUGH THE STREETS TO GET TO
THE PARKING GARAGES.
WE DO NOT NEED TRACTOR-TRAILERS MAKING DELIVERIES.
WE DON'T NEED UBERS WAITING FOR THE LATE NIGHT DRUNKS TO
LEAVE THE RESTAURANT OR THE LATEST EVENT.
WE ARE DAVIS ISLANDERS.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE SOUTH TAMPA'S NEXT EDITION OR EPICURIAN.
WE DON'T NEED THAT.
I AM NOT HERE TO TEAR DOWN THE MIRASOL.
I'M HERE TO SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND KEEP THE MIRASOL
RESIDENTIAL.
PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS LAND USE CHANGE IN OUR
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY PLAGUED WITH OVERBUILDING,
SERIOUS FLOODING AND EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC.
THE NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT THESE DISRUPTIVE CHANGES.
THANK YOU.
08:49:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:49:07PM >> GOOD EVENING.
GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY -- TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BRADLEY CAMPBELL AND A RESIDENT THAT LIVE AT 112
BALTIC CIRCLE ON THE CANAL, FIVE DOORS DOWN FROM THE MIRASOL.
I'M HERE TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION OF THE LAND USE
CHANGE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO
COMMERCIAL USE.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A QUIET, SAFE, AND FAMILY-ORIENTED
COMMUNITY.
CHILDREN WALK THEIR BIKES AND THEY KAYAK AND PADDLE ON THE
CANAL.
CHANGING IT FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL LAND USE ALTERS
THIS AREA IN WAYS THAT CANNOT BE UNDONE.
COMMERCIAL USE BRINGS INCREASED VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
THAT MEANS MORE CARS, MORE UBER DRIVERS, MORE TRUCKS AND
DELIVERY VEHICLES MOVING THROUGHOUT THE QUIET STREETS.
MY STREET IS BALTIC CIRCLE WHERE WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE
INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD FLOW.
THIS PRODUCES A DIRECT SAFETY RISK FOR MY CHILDREN WHO PLAY
OUTSIDE, PEOPLE WHO WALK OR BIKE, AND THOSE WHO VALUE THE
PEACEFUL DEVELOPMENT WE BUILT TOGETHER.
PEOPLE DRIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVE DIFFERENTLY ON
THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD STREET USING CAUTION AND RESPECTING
FELLOW NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY PASS BY.
YOU START MIXING IN COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND THEIR DRIVERS
WHO ARE NOT USED TO THE AREAS'S CURVIER ROADWAYS.
MY FAMILY AND I BUILT A HOME EIGHT YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF ITS
LOCATION.
INVESTED ALL MY SAVINGS INTO THE CANAL LOT BECAUSE OF ITS
QUIET LOCATION AND THE RESIDENTIAL FEEL THIS LOCATION HAS.
IT'S OFF THE BEAT PATH OF OTHER BUSY STREETS THROUGHOUT
DAVOSISLANDS.
AND LOCATED AWAY FROM THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT OF DAVIS
ISLANDS.
OUR HOME IS LOCATED ON THE CANAL, AND WE SIT ON THE BACK
PORCH IN THE EVENING AND ENJOY A QUIET SUNSET.
COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS TO THE CANAL WILL CHANGE ITS NATURE
FROM RESIDENTIAL RECREATIONAL WATERWAY TO A COMMERCIAL
PASSAGE.
OUR CANAL IS NOT DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE FREQUENT OR HEAVY
BOAT TRAFFIC.
INCREASING USAGE FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES WILL CREATE
CONGESTION, SAFETY CONCERNS, AND DIMINISH THE ENJOYMENT OF
THOSE WHO USE IT FOR QUIET ACTIVITIES LIKE KAYAKING,
PADDLEBOARDING AND FISHING.
LASTLY, WE MUST CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON NOISE AND THE
ATMOSPHERE.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS SERENE AND CHARMING, AND A SHIFT TO
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY BRINGS MORE NOISE, LONGER HOURS OF
ACTIVITY, AND A DISRUPTION TO THE PEACE WE ALL VALUE.
ONCE THAT CHARACTER IS LOST, WE CAN NOT GET IT BACK.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY
AS I AM A RESIDENTIAL -- OR I AM A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER
MYSELF, BUT IT SHOULD BE DONE THOUGHTFULLY IN APPROPRIATELY
ZONED AREAS.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THAT PLACE.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE TO YOU PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY AND SAFETY
OF OUR COMMUNITY BY PREVENTING THIS FROM RESIDENTIAL AND NOT
COMMERCIAL USE.
THIS IS FOR OUR FAMILIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:52:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
DON'T FORGET TO LEAVE YOUR NUMBERS IF YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE
THE BUILDING.
YOU CAN HAND IT TO THE GUARD STANDING THERE.
GOOD EVENING.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:52:30PM >> MALCOLM KLEIN.
I LIVED ON DAVIS ISLANDS FOR 40 YEARS.
THE PAST 36 YEARS, 94 BALTIC CIRCLE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO
THE MIRASOL APARTMENTS.
THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE MIRASOL.
THE VIEW OF THE WATERFRONT.
TTHE VIEW THAT PEOPLE RARELY GET TO SEE.
THIS IS AN AREA WITH AN OPPORTUNITY AMPLIFIES NOISE,
ACTIVITY, AND VISUAL IMPACT.
THE VOTE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS NOT ABOUT OUR HOTELS,
RESTAURANTS BECAUSE PRESERVATIONS ARE GOOD IDEAS.
IT IS ABOUT WHERE THE CMU-35, AN EXPANSIVE PERMANENT LAND
USE DESIGNATION BELONGS AT THIS LOCATION.
NOW. I FULLY UNDERSTAND OF OPERATIONS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL
USES WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING STAGE.
BUT I WANT TO RAISE THE WATERFRONT ISSUE TONIGHT FOR A
NARROWER AND IMPORTANT REASON, TO PLACE A FORESEEABLE
SEQUENCE OF THIS LAND USE FRAMEWORK ON THE RECORD.
FOR A WATERFRONT HOTEL, THE WATERFRONT ITSELF IS THE
HUMANITY.
POOL DECKS AND DOCKS ARE USED FOR GUEST GATHERING WITH
ELEVATED NOISE LEVELS, AMPLIFIED MUSIC, PARTICULARLY IN THE
EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS WHEN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
HAS GONE QUIET.
RESIDENTIAL WATERWAYS, THESE SOUNDS ARE FURTHER AMPLIFIED
INTENSIFYING THE IMPACT ON NEARBY HOMES.
THIS IS NOT SPECULATION.
IN 2024, THE MIRASOL MARINA WAS USED AS A STAGING POINT FOR
PARTY BOAT RENTALS.
THEY WERE BUSY SETTING UP JET SKI RENTALS THERE AS WELL.
THE WATERFRONT HOSTED MANY PRIVATE EVENTS INCLUDING ROWDY
PARTIES ACCOMPANIED BY AMPLIFIED UNITS.
AND WHAT DISTINGUISHES WATER IMPACTS FROM LAND SIDE IMPACTS
IS THE ABSENCE OF ANY MEANINGFUL BUFFER.
ALONG THE ROADWAYS, THEIR LANES, SETBACKS, SIDEWALKS AND YOU
CAN IMPOSE TRAFFIC CONTROL.
ALONG THE CANAL, THERE IS NO WALLS.
NO SEPARATION AND NO ENFORCEMENT BOUND TO PREVENT NOISE,
LIGHTING OR ACTIVITY FROM CARRYING DIRECTLY INTO RESIDENTIAL
HOMES, ESPECIALLY ONE ALONG THIS WATERFRONT.
IF CMU-35 PASSES AND THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THE MARINA
AND WATERFRONT WILL BE CENTRAL ISSUES IN THE REZONING
MEETING TO FOLLOW.
CLOSE SCRUTINY AND CANNOT RELY ON ASSURANCES HOW SINCERE
THEY ARE OFFERED.
ULTIMATELY, THE QUESTION IS OF DESIRABILITY.
TRANSFORMATION OF WATERFRONT HOMES LIKE MYSELF INTO PROJECTS
THAT ARE DEFINED BY THE ADJACENCY TO HOTEL NIGHT LIFE AND
MAKING IT MATERIALLY HARDER TO SELL WHERE CHILDREN CAN RIDE
THEIR BAKES, SKATEBOARD AND PLAY BASKETBALL WITHOUT HAVING
TO DODGE CARS AN CROWDS.
08:55:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING.
08:55:45PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS SEFON BEGUN, AND I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A NEIGHBOR TO RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO
APPROVE THIS PETITION SO THE MIRASOL CAN BE REPURPOSED AND
REOPENED AS A HOTEL.
AND THE STRONGEST REASON IS SIMPLE.
DAVIS ISLAND NEEDS A PLACE FOR VISITORS TO STAY OVERNIGHT.
MY FAMILY HAVE LIVED THIS FIRSTHAND.
WHEN OUR CHILDREN WERE BAPTIZED, WE WANTED TO KEEP OUR
FAMILY CLOSE BY, BUT OUR HOUSE SIMPLY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH
ROOM TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE, AND OUR FAMILY HAD TO STAY OFF
THE ISLAND.
IT IS INCONVENIENT AND TAKES AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO COME
TOGETHER IN THE PLACE WE CALL HOME.
A NEIGHBORHOOD-SCALE HOTEL SOLVES THAT.
IT LETS FAMILIES STAY CLOSE TOGETHER SO PEOPLE CAN WALK TO
WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
AND IT ACTUALLY EXPERIENCES DAVIS ISLAND RATHER THAN DRIVING
ON AND OFF THE ISLAND.
IT MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE MIRASOL'S PROXIMITY TO TAMPA
GENERAL.
FAMILIES COME TO SUPPORT LOVED ONES WHO RECEIVE CARE AT THE
HOSPITAL AND HAVING A NEARBY HOTEL WILL SERVE THE REAL
COMMUNITY NEEDS.
AND THIS ISN'T A NEW CONCEPT THAT IS BEING IMPOSED ON THE
ISLAND.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THE ORIGINAL DAVIS ISLAND PLAT HANGING IN MY
LIVING ROOM AND ONE IN MY OFFICES DOWNTOWN.
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE ISLAND WAS ENVISIONED AS A BALANCED
MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, MULTIFAMILY
AREAS, COMMERCIAL CENTER, AND A HOTEL.
OVER TIME, WE HAVE LOST THAT HOTEL, AND NOW IT IS TIME TO
BRING THAT HOTEL BACK TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE LIMITED APPROPRIATE COMMERCIAL USE
THAT HELPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THRIVE, SUPPORTING RESIDENTIAL
LIFE, ADDING VITALITY, AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT
CHANGING ITS CHARACTER.
SO MY REQUEST IS STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
ADDITION.
THANK YOU.
08:57:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER.
JUST FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, AT 9:30, WE WILL TAKE ANOTHER
SHORT BREAK.
WE HAVE 30 MORE MINUTES AND THEN TAKE ANOTHER SHORT BREAK.
08:58:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
ONE NAME, SUSAN SHOBE.
08:58:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SUSAN, ARE YOU IN THE HOUSE?
08:58:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHE SURE IS.
RIGHT THERE.
ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE WITH TOTAL OF FOUR.
08:58:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
08:58:28PM >> I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT.
I KNOW YOUR JOBS ARE HARD, AND THESE MEETINGS GO LONG.
AND I -- I JUST WANT TO YOU KNOW THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DAVIS SHOBE.
MY WIFE IS SUSAN SPOTO SHOBE.
WE MOVED TO ADALIA IN 1972, AND WE LIVED THERE NOW INTO OUR
80s FOR 54 YEARS.
IT HAS BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I MOVED THERE ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF CODY FOWLER WHO LIVED
AT 83 ADALIA AVENUE, BECAUSE I GOT PUT IN THE OFFICE --
ACTUALLY A FILE ROOM THAT HE HAD NEXT DOOR TO HIM.
AND CODY, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF HIM, HAS A PLAQUE DOWN ON
THE RIVERWALK.
HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN BAR IN THE 1950s.
HELEN GORDON DAVIS LIVED ON ADALIA DURING MY TIME THERE.
I THINK YOU RENAMED DAVIS BOULEVARD, BUT AT LEAST GOT A SIGN
GIVING IT IS HELEN GORDON DAVIS BOULEVARD.
IT HAS BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AREA WHERE CHILDREN PLAYED IN THE STREETS
OFTEN, PEOPLE KNEW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND WHERE THERE WERE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTIES, AND IT IS ONLY
RECENTLY THAT THE STREETS HAVE BECOME CROWDED WITH PEOPLE
FROM TAMPA GENERAL, MAINLY THE EMPLOYEES WHO -- WHO I GUESS
FIND IT CHEAPER TO PARK ON OUR STREET THAN THEY TO DO PARK
IN THE PARKING LOT AT TAMPA GENERAL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT THERE HAS GOT TO BE SOME
REASON, BECAUSE OFTEN WITH CONSTRUCTION AND THE POLICE FROM
TAMPA GENERAL, THE STREET TURNS INTO A ONE-LANE STREET.
AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT WORRIES ME TODAY ABOUT THE LAND USE
AMENDMENT.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM TO BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
OTHER THAN THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
BUT I'M HERE TO TALK OF THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT -- THAT TRAFFIC
GENERATED BY THIS CHANGE IN LAND USE, I, AT LEAST, FROM THE
WEB SITE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE HAVE SET UP, MIGHT
INCREASE THE TRAFFIC UP TO AS MUCH AS 4900%.
WOW, THAT IS A LOT.
WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, AND THE A STREETS AND THE B
STREETS WILL BE ALTERNATE ROUTES FOR CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS FOR
THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE PROJECT THEY PROJECT.
AND THE -- THE -- THE PROBLEMS CREATE BY THAT TRAFFIC AND
THEN THE PARKING REALLY MAKE THE STREET A VERY DIFFERENT
PLACE THAN IT HAS BEEN FOR MY 54 YEARS.
KIDS DON'T -- EVEN THOUGH THEY TRY NOW, THEY DON'T OFTEN GET
TO THROW THE BALL IN THE STREET.
THEY DON'T OFTEN GET TO DO BASKETBALL GAMES IN THE STREET
LIKE THEY USED TO.
AND IT WILL GET A LOT WORSE WHERE THE STREETS ARE CROWDED WITH
PARKING.
AND WITH CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS
PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU GENERATES.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS IN OUR WEB SITE UNDER THE
HEADING OF MYTHS.
AND I WOULD REFER TO YOU THOSE.
THEY ARE IMPORTANT.
WE ARE HERE FOR ASK YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE
WHO OWN THE PROPERTY AT THE MIRASOL.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME IS THAT THE
MIRASOL WILL GET TORN DOWN BECAUSE THEY WILL SELL THE
PROPERTY ONCE THEY GET YOUR LAND USE CHANGE.
09:02:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:02:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS JOHN McDUFFIE HERE?
JAN BANKER.
TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
09:02:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
09:02:59PM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING.
JOHN MURRAY, 122 ADALIA AVENUE, TWO PROPERTIES WEST OF 84
DAVIS.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HOMEOWNERS AT THIS ADDRESS FOR 30
YEARS.
WE CHOSE DAVIS ISLANDS FOR UNIQUE FAMILY CHARACTER.
WE VALUE THE SMALL TOWN FEEL AND ITS PROXIMITY TO EXCITING
DEVELOPMENTS.
PROFESSIONALLY, I AM THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF A MAJOR FLORIDA
SEAPORT.
I COMMUTED FROM THE DAVIS ISLANDS TO THE PORT AND IS A TESTAMENT 09:03:32PM OF QUALITY OF LIFE OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
AT PORT CANAVERAL, I MANAGE COMPARABLE LAND USE THAT HAVE
CRUISE, CARGO, AEROSPACE OPERATIONS, PUBLIC PARKS, MARINAS,
RESTAURANTS AND 100 GENERAL USE TENANTS SPREAD OVER 1100
ACRES.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR POLICIES SET BY OUR BOARD AND TASK OF
DUE DILIGENCE AND THOUGHTFUL DECISION MAKING.
IN RESPECT TO THE COUNCIL'S DECISION ON AUGUST 11, THE
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED IT
INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND
BASED ON UNANIMOUS 7-0 RESOLUTION OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION
ALONE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD DENY THIS REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT LOOKS TO CHANGE THE LAND USE FROM R-50 TO
CMU-35 THAT ALLOW ITS OWNER FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT AND CONVERT
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO COMMERCIAL USE.
CMU-35 WITH FUTURE ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY.
SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY HOMES UNDER THE
COMMERCIAL INTENSITY OF CMU-35 IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
SPECIFIC CONCERNS WITH THE CMU-35 INCLUDE INTENSITY AND
ENTITLEMENT.
HIGHER INTENSITY ON THE CMU-35 WILL ADD ENTITLEMENTS TO
CHANGE FOR CURRENT AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS.
INTRODUCTION OF TRANSIENT POPULATION AS EVIDENCE WITH
SHORT-TERM TRAVEL, NOISE, ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, AND
INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR, AND INCREASED INTENSITY IN THE
FLOOD ZONE.
A CHANGE IN LAND USE OF DENSITY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA PRONE TO SIGNIFICANT FLOODING DURING STORM EVENTS.
OF COURSE, PARKING AND TRAFFIC.
INCREASED ENTITLEMENT OF THE CMU-35 ELEVATES INTENSE TRAFFIC
AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
CURRENT TRAFFIC AND PARKING AT THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS
ALREADY BAD, AND A CHANGE TO CMU-35 WOULD MAKE IT WORSE.
DAVIS BOULEVARD, AS YOU DON'T KNOW, LACK BIKE LANES AND
PREVENTS GOLF COURT SAFETY, BUILDING VIABILITY.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
THERE IS A REASONABLE RISK THAT RESTORATION OF THE BUILDING
MAY NOT BE VIABLE.
WITHOUT PRESERVATION PROTECTIONS, THE CMU-35 DESIGNATION
COULD PUT THE MIRASOL AT A HIGH RISK OF DEMOLITION THAN IT
IS TODAY BECAUSE THE LAND USE ENTITLEMENT WILL BE MORE THAN
THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
THE OWNER'S RISKY BUSINESS PROPOSAL AND FINANCIAL SITUATION
DOES NOT OVERRULE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE
LAND USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OWNER'S FINANCIAL SHALL NOT FORCE A RADICAL LAND USE CHANGE
TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES.
IN CONCLUSION, THE LAND USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS UNSUITABLE
AND UNWANTED IN THE HEART OF OUR NORTH DAVIS ISLAND
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND GIVES FULL FOR CITY AND COUNTY
PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS AND DENY THIS PROPOSAL.
JUST BRIEFLY, TO SHOW WHAT YOU WE LIVE WITH TODAY, THIS IS
-- THESE ARE SOME OF PARKING ISSUES.
THIS IS COMING UP ADALIA GETTING READY TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND
TURN ON TO DAVIS GOING NORTH.
YOU CAN'T SEE TO THE RIGHT.
YOU HAVE NO CHOICE MANY TIMES TO MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN AND
FIND A WAY TO U-TURN TO THE NORTH DAVIS BOULEVARD BECAUSE OF
INAPPROPRIATE TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF THE MIRASOL.
THIS IS ALSO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE MIRASOL.
THIS IS THEIR LANDSCAPE SERVICE THAT JUST PARKS THERE AT THE
STOP SIGN.
I COULD DO THIS ALL NIGHT LONG, BUT I PROMISE YOU, I WON'T.
HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW YOU HAVE OF THE SAME VEHICLE AS YOU CAN
SEE RIGHT AT THE STOP SIGN.
AND, OF COURSE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE OUT MORE OFTEN
THAN THEY ARE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH FIRE HYDRANTS.
THAT IS A VEHICLE ON ONE DAY.
HERE IS ONE ANOTHER DAY.
AND JUST FOR NOTICE, THEY ARE BLOCKING THE FIRE HYDRANTS BUT
ALL THE VEHICLES ARE PARKED IN WRONG DIRECTION ON THE STREET
EVERY DAY.
I CAN GO AND TAKE PICTURES LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING, AND PLEASE DENY THIS
REQUEST.
09:07:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. MURRAY.
NEXT SPEAKER.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
I BET A PAYCHECK ON IT.
09:08:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEVEN NAMES.
SANDY SANCHEZ.
I SEE YOU.
PAM CANELLA.
I SEE YOU.
MICHAEL -- THANK YOU.
SCOTT DEFRATES, THANK YOU.
MICHAEL McNABB.
THANK YOU.
JOANNE McNABB, THANK YOU.
AND ANNA ALINA.
09:08:40PM >> I'M HERE.
09:08:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SEVEN NAMES PLUS THREE WITH A TOTAL OF TEN.
09:08:46PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF
SOUTH TAMPA, AND BEFORE I GET INTO IT, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THE THINGS I HEARD SAID HERE TODAY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU ARE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT
TO SAVE THE MIRASOL.
YOU ARE NOT.
YOU CAN NOT.
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO SAVE THE MIRASOL.
THAT IS NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW.
NO MATTER HOW YOU VOTE TONIGHT, THE MIRASOL MIGHT BE SAVED.
NO MATTER HOW YOU VOTE TONIGHT, THE MIRASOL MIGHT GET TORN
DOWN.
YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
IF THE GOAL WAS REALLY SAVING THE MIRASOL, WHY HAVEN'T THEY
ASKED FOR HISTORICAL DESIGNATION?
BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY WILL SAVE IT.
THAT ACTUALLY IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL SAVE IT.
BUT REALITY IS, THE PRACTICALITY OF IT IS, IF THE MIRASOL
HAD HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE WORTH LESS
MONEY.
THEY SAID THEMSELVES THE VALUE IS IN THE LAND.
IF THEY GET HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON IT, THEY WILL -- THEY
AND FUTURE OWNERS WILL BE SO RESTRICTED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO,
THE VALUE WILL GO DOWN.
REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS WILL TELL YOU ALL THE TIME THE
QUICKEST WAY TO MAKE MONEY ON -- ON LAND IS TO GET THE LAND
USE OR ZONING CHANGED.
THAT IS AN INSTANT INCREASE IN PROFIT.
BY NOT GETTING HISTORICAL DESIGNATION THEY KEPT THEIR
FLEXIBILITY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS WHOLE SCARE TACTICS AND
WORSE-CASE SCENARIOS.
STEPHANIE POYNOR AND I CAN SPEAK WITH MORE AUTHORITY THAN
ANYBODY ABOUT THIS SORT OF THING.
AND AROUND 2005, THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ON RATTLESNAKE
POINT CAME TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAID WE WANT THE LAND USE
CHANGE.
COUNCILMAN HARRY COHEN SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I GOT A LOT OF
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
GINA GRIMES -- I WATCHED THE VIDEO AND SEEN THE TRANSCRIPT.
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
SHE SAID BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT MR. HUDSON SAID.
ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE REZONING.
CITY COUNCIL WON'T APPROVE ALL THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS YOU ARE
AFRAID OF.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.
GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT.
15 YEARS LATER, REZONING STARTED AND YOU KNOW WHAT, GINA AND
TYLER WERE RIGHT.
YOU SAID NO.
YOU SAID NO ON THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND ONE, THE THIRD ONE.
YOU SAID NO, NO, NO, NO.
THOSE ARE BAD PLANS.
GUESS WHAT, THOSE WERE QUASI-JUDICIAL RULINGS WHERE RULES
ARE DIFFERENT.
WHAT DID ALL THOSE PROPERTIES OWNERS DO?
THEY ALL FILED LAWSUITS.
THEY WENT TO FLUEDRA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS, STEPHANIE POYNOR AFTER
MORE FLUEDRA MEETING AFTER FLUEDRA MEETING.
THE CITY CAVED AND GAVE INTO THE DEMAND AND NOBODY ON CITY
COUNCIL WANTED IT.
YOU WERE OVERRULED, AND ALL THOSE APARTMENTS GOT BUILT ON
RATTLESNAKE POINT.
THE WHOLE THEORY THAT THERE IS A PD -- FIRST, DON'T WORRY
OF THE BOOGIE MAN BEHIND THE WINDOW BECAUSE THOSE HORRIBLE
USES WILL NOT HAPPEN.
NOT TRUE.
THEY WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU WILL GO FROM A LEGISLATIVE
ISSUE AT YOUR DISCRETION TO A QUASI-JUDICIAL ISSUE.
OTHER THING THEY SAY, THE PDs WILL CONTROL IT.
NOTHING CAN BE BUILT OTHER THAN ON A PD.
HOW MANY REZONINGS WHERE THE ZONING IS BEING REZONED BECAUSE
IT CHANGED MINDS OR CHANGED HANDS.
ALL THAT THEY WILL DO WITH THIS PD COMING UP BEFORE YOU.
YOU CAN APPROVE IT, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD IT EVER.
IT CAN SIT VACANT.
IT CAN SIT NOT VACANT BUT NOT BE DONE.
OR SOMEONE CAN REZONE IT AGAIN TO SOMETHING COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT.
SO THE PD DOES NOT PROTECT IT.
SO NOW I AM GETTING READY TO GET TO MY PRESENTATION AND MY
POWERPOINT IF THEY BRING IT UP.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
STAFF AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF ALL OPPOSED THIS
AMENDMENT.
PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE IN MY EIGHT YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS A VERY RARE
OCCURRENCE.
STAFF SAID IT IS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE IT WILL DOUBLE -- I
REPEAT, DOUBLE THE ALLOWABLE SIZE OF ANYTHING BUILT ON THIS
PROPERTY.
STAFF SAID INCONSISTENT BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN
COMMERCIAL GENERAL COULD BE BUILT HERE.
THAT WOULD ALLOW A LOT MORE NEW USES.
STAFF SAID IT COULD ALSO CAUSE PROBLEMS OF MASSING, SCALE,
AND COMPATIBILITY, AND THAT VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN.
THEY SAID NO BECAUSE THIS NEW LAND USE COULD CHANGE THE
FABRIC OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
STAFF WARNED, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES THE MIRASOL WILL BE
PRESERVED OR EVEN THAT IS A HOTEL WILL BE BUILT.
IT COULD BECOME ANYTHING THAT COMMERCIAL GENERAL ALLOWS.
THEY CAN BUILD A RESTAURANT, CAFE, RETAIL AND OTHER
AMENITIES TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE.
NOTHING STOPPING THOSE THINGS RIGHT NOW.
STAFF SAID THE CURRENT LAND USE ALLOWS MANY WONDERFUL THINGS
THAT ARE COMPATIBLE.
CMU-35 WILL ALLOW AN INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT VIOLATES THE
COMP PLAN.
NO INCREASED DENSITY IN A CHHA, PERIOD.
CITY PLANNING STAFF CITES PLAN REVIEW CRITERIA TO BE
COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE SHOULD BE A
SIMILAR LAND USE ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
CRITERIA ALSO SAYS BECAUSE THERE ARE R-6 ADJACENT TO THE
PROPERTY.
A TRANSIT CORRIDOR OR TRANSIT STATION WITHIN 660 FEET.
CITY PLANNING SAID THOSE CRITERIA HAVE NOT BEEN MET, AND
SINCE THEY ARE NOT MET, YOU MAY DENY THIS.
CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT OBJECTS TO THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE
IT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE DWELLING UNITS IN
THE CHHA, WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
TAMPA'S LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF OBJECTS TO IN
AMENDMENT BECAUSE DOUBLING THE F.A.R. WITH CHANGE THE FABRIC
OF EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE
AREA AND NO CMU-35 NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NO GUARANTEES.
NO REQUIREMENT TO BUILD A PD IF YOU APPROVE IT.
THE REZONING THEY WANT IS NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT IS PRINTED
ON.
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT, YOU ARE IMPROVING A
MASSIVE INCREASE IN ENTITLEMENTS THAT RUN WITH THE LAND.
YOU WILL CREATE EXTENSIVE NEW PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT YOU DON'T
EVEN UNDERSTAND.
YOU CREATE A LEGAL VULNERABILITY THAT WILL NOT EXIST IF YOU
DENY THIS AMENDMENT.
THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE LAND USE IS LEGISLATIVE.
IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION.
THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN QUASI-JUDICIAL.
STATE DOES NOT SAY THAT AND WILL OWNERS HAVE A RIGHT TO
CHANGES IN LAND AUTO US.
STATE HAS NO RELIABILITY.
NO LEGAL DOWNSIDE OF DENYING THIS.
BUT THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE IF YOU APPROVE THIS LEGISLATIVE
CHANGE.
YOU MOVE INTO QUASI-JUDICIAL TERRITORY, WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT
REQUIREMENT.
IF YOU THINK DOUBLING THE REQUIREMENTS ARE OKAY, IF YOU
THINK CHANGING THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OKAY, IF
YOU THINK INCOMPATIBLE MASSING AND SCALE IS OKAY, IF YOU
KNOW EVERY USE ALLOWED IN THIS TEN PAGES OF COMMERCIAL
GENERAL, IF YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ALL ARE, AND YOU THINK ALL OF
THEM ARE OKAY, IF YOU THINK SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING
THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN THE CH-HA IS OKAY, THEN YOU SHOULD
VOTE YES.
BUT IF EVEN ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS NOT OKAY, THEN YOU MUST
VOTE NO.
YOU MUST VOTE NO BECAUSE THIS IS A PANDORA'S BOX.
IF YOU OPEN IT, YOU BETTER BE OKAY WITH LETTING EVERY SINGLE
THING OUT YOU HAVE IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT IT BACK IN THE
BOX.
THANK YOU.
09:17:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
NO, NO, NO, NO.
ANY MORE OUTBURSTS LIKE THAT, I WILL ASK YOU TO LEAVE
CHAMBER.
NEXT SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, THE NEXT TEN SPEAKERS CAN LINE UP
AGAINST THE WALL, PLEASE.
NEVER MIND.
TWO OR THREE IS GOOD BECAUSE WE WILL BREAK IN A FEW MINUTES.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
THREE MINUTES.
09:18:02PM >> MY NAME IS LILY ZOO.
I AM FROM TAMPA BAY AND CURRENTLY A JUNIOR AT HARVARD
UNIVERSITY STUDYING ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND PUBLIC POLICY.
FIRST, THE PLAN WOULD INCREASE DENSITY IN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA ACCORDING TO PAGE 6 OF THE STAFF REPORT.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA EVACUATION
ZONE A, MANAGEMENT 1.1 DIRECTS FUTURE POPULATIONS AWAY FROM
THIS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA TO ACHIEVE A NO NET INCREASE
OF RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THEY STATE THAT THE PROPOSAL COULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS ON THE PROPERTY HENCE THE STAFF
REPORTS CONCLUSION OF INCONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN.
THIS PROPOSAL IS INCONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA STATUTE 16331-78
NUMBER ONE THAT STATES THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT
ACTIVITIES WHERE SUCH ACTIVITIES COULD DAMAGE OR DESTROY
COASTAL RESOURCES AND THAT SUCH PLANS PROTECT HUMAN LIFE AND
LIMIT PUBLIC EXPENDITURES IN AREAS SUBJECT TO DESTRUCTION
BY NATURAL DISASTERS.
THIS WILL HARM PUBLIC WELFARE BY A NATURAL DISASTER.
TAMPA'S LOCATION IN SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND LOW ELEVATION
WITH MY HURRICANE PROBABILITY AND HIGH FLOOD SUSCEPTIBILITY.
35.5% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION RESIDE IN THE HURRICANE
NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO EVACUATION ZONES.
MODELS PROJECT THAT HURRICANES WILL POSE COASTAL FLOOD RISKS
UNFORTUNATELY WITH HIGHER FREQUENCY IN THE NORTH ATLANTIC.
SEVERAL RESIDENTS WITH THE INTENSITY STORMS SUCH AS
HURRICANE HELENE DESTROYING THEIR PRIVATE HOMES AND CAUSING
THEM IN THE MIRASOL.
MIRASOL'S LOCATION WHICH IS THE NARROW LOW POINT WITH LITTLE
BUFFER BETWEEN THE ADALIA BALTIC CANAL TERMINUSES TO MARJORY
PARK MARINA WILL CAUSE FLOODING IMPACTS TO BE
DISPROPORTIONATELY MAGNIFIED OPPOSED TO OTHER PARTS OF
TAMPA.
IN TIMES OF EVACUATION, ARE THE POTENTIAL DOUBLING OF
INTENSITY ON DAVIS BOULEVARD WILL EXACERBATE PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS.
POLICY 7.1.5 ALREADY PROHIBITS INTENSITY INCREASES FOR LAND
IDENTIFIED ON THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT AREA'S MAP IN THE
REGION AROUND THE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
FINALLY THE MIRASOL IS A SOURCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
MANY PEOPLE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
WORKING AT BOSTON'S HOME OWNERSHIP AGENCY, THERE ARE LAND
USE PLANS THAT HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT OF AFFORDABILITY.
THANK YOU.
AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHY THE AMENDMENT
TO CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM RESIDENTIAL 50
TO CMU-35 IS A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD.
09:20:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.
09:21:01PM >> YOU TOO.
09:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER.
WE ALL KNOW YOUR NAME BUT STATE YOUR NAME.
09:21:22PM >> DEBBIE ZAMMERMAN, 190 CORSICA STREET.
FOR NINE YEARS, THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS THE PROCESS IN THE
PAST.
I HAVE NOT ONLY ADVOCATED FOR DAVIS ISLANDS, BUT FOR MANY
OTHER TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS.
I SHOW UP WITH FACTS AND SPECIFIC REFERENCES TO THE COMP
PLAN AND THE CITY CODE.
THIS IS REQUEST IS UNLIKE ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN ON DAVIS
ISLANDS AS THERE IS A STRONG PUSH TO HAVE IN BASED ON MEDIA
CAMPAIGNS, PREFERENCES AND OTHER AVENUES IN CONFLICT WITH
THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.
REACHED A POINT WHERE I NEED TO TRUST THE PROCESS, TRUST
THAT YOU WILL HEAR THE FACTS, AND TRUST THAT YOU, AS A BODY,
WILL VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
HISTORICALLY, DAVIS ISLANDS RESIDENTS HAVE ALWAYS PERFORMED
WITHIN THE PROCESS OF SURROUNDING LAND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
TWO EXAMPLES, THE DAVIS ISLANDS ISLAND COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH
WAS IN THE MAKING AND WHICH WAS YEARS IN THE MAKING AND
APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND IS INCORPORATED WITHIN THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WORKED FOR YEARS ON THAT.
AND NUMBER TWO, MOST RECENTLY, CLOSES TO 100 PEOPLE SHOWED UP
AT OUR COMP PLAN TOWN HALL THIS SUMMER.
TURNOUT WAS HUGE GIVEN THE FACT THAT MANY IN ATTENDANCE
INCLUDING MYSELF WHERE I WAS RECOVERING FROM THE 2024
HURRICANES.
DAVIS ISLANDS RESIDENTS EXPECT THE ESTABLISHED PROCESS TO BE
FOLLOWED.
WITH MY CLOSE TO 15 YEARS OF LAND USE ADVOCACY, I CAN'T
TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I APPROACHED BY RESIDENTS I BARELY
KNEW EXPRESSING THEIR APPRECIATION THAT SOMEONE IS KEEPING
AN EYE ON DEVELOPMENT MATTERS THAT IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
40-PLUS REAL ESTATE YEARS AND 30 YEARS FOCUSED ON COMPLEX
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRANSACTIONS.
I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT FOR DECISION IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
APPLICABLE ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS, AND COMPLIANCE.
TO DEPART FROM THAT PROCESS COMPROMISES THE INTEGRITY OF THE
FRAMEWORK AND UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST DENIAL OF THIS AND IT IS INCONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT MY OPINION BUT DEMONSTRATED BY A FINDING OF
INCONSISTENCY OF UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE CITY-COUNTY PLANNING
COMMISSION.
FINDINGS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT AND FINDING
WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY DEPARTMENT PLANNING REPORT
SHOWING INCONSISTENCY OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THE PREPONDERANCE FROM MULTIPLE LEVELS, DIFFICULT TO
UNDERSTAND A SCENARIO WHERE THIS REQUEST CAN BE FOUND
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE CITY'S CODE.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:24:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DEBBIE, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:24:32PM >> HI, DJ HAMILTON.
I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
I HAVE FOR 15 YEARS.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE A BUSINESS ON THE ISLAND ON THE DAVIS
ISLAND VILLAGE.
WE BELONG TO THE DAVIS ISLAND VILLAGE ASSOCIATION.
WE SENT A LETTER OF SUPPORT LETTING YOU KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY
THIS BECOMING A HOTEL WOULD VERY MUCH HELP US IN THE VILLAGE
AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
AS MANY BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE COME UP TONIGHT AND MENTIONED
THE STRESS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH WITH -- I MEAN, THE
WHOLE ISLAND REALLY WITH THE STORMS OF A COUPLE OF YEARS
AGO.
AND A LOT OF BUSINESSES WENT OUT YOU HAVE BUSINESS BECAUSE
OF IT.
AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OBVIOUSLY VISITING THE
MIRASOL, THE TOLL IT HAS TAKEN ON THAT.
THE TOLL IT HAS TAKEN ON THE WHOLE ISLAND.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S FEARS, I REALLY DO.
CHANGE -- CHANGE IS TOUGH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE
ISLAND THAT I LOVE, THAT I LIVED ON FOR 15 YEARS JUST THE
CROWN JEWEL BEING DESTROYED.
AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, EVERYTHING THAT I AM HEARING
TONIGHT, YOU ARE EITHER FOR CMU-35 OR FOR THE WRECKING BALL.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.
AND THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE DIRECTION WE ARE GOING.
WE HAVE PEOPLE, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE ISLAND, OUR
NEIGHBORS.
MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEM.
I BUY COFFEE AT THE SAME COFFEE SHOP AS THEM ON THE ISLAND.
THIS ISN'T SOME NAMELESS, FACELESS CORPORATION FROM
FLAGSTAFF, ARIZONA TRYING TO MOVE IN AND DESTROY THIS
ISLAND.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THIS ISLAND JUST LIKE I DO.
JUST LIKE WE ALL DO IN HERE.
AND IT IS A CONTENTIOUS EVENING, THAT IS FOR SURE, BUT I
WANT TO SEE THE MIRASOL, AND I WANT TO SEE IT STAY THERE FOR
A LONG TIME.
AND WE HAVE A FAMILY THAT IS WILLING TO INVEST THEIR
RESOURCES AND KEEP THIS THING ALIVE.
AND I HOPE -- I HOPE YOU SEE TO IT THAT WAY.
I HOPE THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO GIVE MY FAMILY WHEN THEY VISIT
TOWN RIDES AROUND ON THE GOLF CART AND SAY THIS IS THE
MIRASOL.
THIS HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1926.
I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT WITH CMU-35.
THANK YOU.
09:27:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
AFTER THIS SPEAKER, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK SO YOU GUYS CAN
RELAX A LITTLE BIT.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:27:16PM >> GOOD EVENING, DOROTHY JACKMAN.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THIS
PROPOSAL.
I DO NOT LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
I DO RESIDE IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WITH STRONG COMMUNITY
KNOWN AS BEACH PARK.
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD AT LEAST
FOUR DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS PURSUE REDEVELOPMENT OF WHAT WAS
ONCE A SINGLE-STORY OFFICE PARK SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY
HOMES, AND OUR HOME IS ONE OF THEM.
THESE DEVELOPERS WANTED TO BUILD EIGHT- TO TEN-STORY
APARTMENTS WITHIN A FEW FEET OF OUR PROPERTY LINES.
THE BUILDING WILL SIGNIFICANTLY OFFER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
CHARACTER, IMPACT OUR LIVING, CHANGE OUR PRIVACY AND REDUCE
THE LIFE.
THESE WERE BE CONSIDERED BY SOME NEIGHBORS AS HIGHLY
INTRUSIVE, THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE
MIRASOL ALLOWS FOR THE SAME TYPE OF INVASIVE FUTURE
DEVELOPMENT TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING TO IMMEDIATE
NEIGHBORS.
A NEW HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COULD IMPACT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNIFICANTLY.
I HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND.
THE BUILDING OR BUILDINGS WOULD BE BIGGER, HIGHER AND
DENSER.
OVERSHADOWING THE NEIGHBORS, MORE CARS, LESS PRIVACY AND
WHAT IS WORSE, NOT CHARACTERISTICALLY FIT IN.
ALL UNDER CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT DISCUSSING THAT, BUT IF IT COMES
FORWARD, I PROMISE THEY WOULD BE.
RIGHT NOW, THE MIRASOL STANDS AS AN ARCHITECTURAL GEM THAT
DEFINES THE CHARACTER OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
AND EXISTS TODAY AS IT EXISTED WHEN EVERY PERSON AND
NEIGHBOR BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, PRETENDING THAT BY
ALLOWING COMMERCIAL USES WILL FOREVER ALTER THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER TO TRY TO STOP A PROJECT IS
DISINGENUOUS.
WHAT WILL FOREVER ALTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IS THE
125-FOOT-HIGH BIG BOX AND MODERN STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE
ALTERNATIVE.
REVIEWING FOR PLANS FOR THE MIRASOL TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO
ITS ORIGINAL INTENDED USE.
I FAIL TO SEE THIS IS AN INTRUSIVE USE OR STRUCTURE TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
A THOUGHTFUL RESPECTFUL SUGGESTION ADDING VALUE TO OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMES WITH VALUES LIKE THIS.
SEEMS LIKE A GIFT TO THOSE NOT ONLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT
THE WHOLE DAVIS ISLANDS COMMUNITY.
YOU COMMEND THE CARE AND THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS PLAN,
AND I ASK THAT YOU VOTE ON THE SUBMITTED PLANS.
09:29:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION, THE GENTLEMAN IN
THE ORANGE, WERE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK?
IN THE ORANGE VEST, YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN SKIPPED OVER.
WE WILL LET YOU SPEAK AND THEN BREAK AFTER YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:30:01PM >> HELLO, EVERYONE, WAYNE CLARK, REPRESENTATIVE OF FIRST
CLASS BALLET ENTERPRISE.
THE MIRASOL HOTEL CREATES JOBS, GENERATES CONSISTENT TAX
REVENUE, AND ATTRACT HIGHER VALUE INVESTORS.
THE SAME STRANGERS, TRANSIENTS THAT WOULD COME INTO THE
HOTEL FOR TWO DAYS MIGHT FALL IN LOVE WITH DAVIS ISLANDS OR
WANT TO INVEST IN TAMPA SO YOU NEVER KNOW.
I AM A FIRM BELIEVER OF DON'T SWEEP YOUR PROBLEMS UNDER THE
RUG.
THE MIRASOL IS ALREADY HERE.
WHY BUILD SOMETHING ELSE AND FIGURE OUT ANOTHER PARKING
SITUATION OR, YOU KNOW, SO -- MY THING IS, LET'S FOCUS ON
INVESTING IN THE MIRASOL.
A PARKING LOT.
PARKING GARAGE.
THE HOTEL MIGHT NOT CLOSE AT 7:00, BUT MOST RESIDENTS HAVE
TO GO TO WORK AT 7:00, SO STILL TRANSPORTATION MOVING IN AND
OUT OF CITY.
SO THEY SPEAK ON NOISE ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF THE MIRASOL.
I DEFINITELY CAN ASK FOR REPORT ON HOW MANY CLAIMS THE
MIRASOL HAD FOR NOISE ORDINANCE.
I DOUBT IT HASN'T BEEN MANY.
LIKE WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, MANY OF YOU HAVE EVEN LODGED AT
THE MIRASOL DURING DISASTERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:31:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, SO COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO BREAK.
IT IS 9:33.
IF I ASK COUNCIL TO BE BACK IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT 9:55.
PLEASE.
9:55.
BACK IN CHAMBERS.
SO WE ARE IN RECESS.
THANK YOU.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
9:55.
09:55:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AGAIN.
09:55:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AFTER DARK.
09:55:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
THE REAL TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU WERE IN THE BUILDING DOWNSTAIRS IN THE OVERFLOW ROOM,
IF YOU WERE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON ITEM ONE, PLEASE COME TO
THE THIRD FLOOR.
WE HAVE SEATS FOR YOU.
IF YOU WERE PLANNING ON SPEAKING ON ITEM ONE AND YOU HAVE
NOT SPOKEN AND NOT GIVEN YOUR TIME AWAY, PLEASE COME TO THE
THIRD FLOOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:56:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:56:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:56:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:56:25PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
09:56:29PM >>CLERK:
IS SHE HERE?
OH, I AM SORRY.
09:56:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAD HER MOUTHFUL.
09:56:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:56:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
09:56:39PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:56:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
START ON THE WALL.
NEXT SPEAKER.
START WITH YOUR NAME, THREE MINUTES AND STAY SILENT IN THE
ROOM.
09:56:53PM >> I AM TODD MORRIS, A 20-YEAR RESIDENT.
I OWN TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT TO IMPROVE THE MIRASOL.
BUT I AM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THE FACTS AND THE CONJECTURES
THAT OTHERS HAVE BEEN SAYING.
I LOOK AT TWO STORIES AND GO BACK TO HISTORY.
FIRST, VILLA DeLEON IS THE HISTORIC APARTMENT BUILDING, PINK
PALACE AS YOU ENTER THE ISLAND.
TAMPA DECLINED THE REQUEST TO RAISE THE BUILDING SEVEN FEET
FOR HURRICANE DAMAGE.
IT WAS DENIED AND FOR MONTHS IT IS BOARDED UP, RAT-INFESTED
AND EVERY DAY WE DRIVE BY THAT AND THE FUTURE OF THE DESTINY
OF WHAT WE FACE WITH THE MIRASOL.
THAT IS STORY NUMBER ONE.
I THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM HISTORY.
SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN FROM OTHER HISTORY FROM THE
TAMPA BAY AREA.
LET'S GO BACK TO 1984 WHERE THERE WAS A COMMON QUESTION.
ST. PETERSBURG HAD TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THE VINOY
HOTEL.
A HOTEL, FALLEN ON FINANCIAL HARD TIMES, TURNED INTO A
BOARDING HOUSE AND CLOSED AND DETERIORATED.
RESIDENTS AROUND IT LIKED THE PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND
DIDN'T LIKE THE PROPERTY VALUES THAT WILL DECLINE BECAUSE OF
THE TRANSIENT NATURE NOT OF THE PEOPLE COMING THERE BUT THE
PEOPLE ON THE GROUND AS IT WASN'T MAINTAINED.
CITY LEADERS VOTED -- CITY LEADERS AND VOTERS CHOSE A
DIFFERENT PATH TO KEEP IT SHUTTERED.
THEY SAW HISTORY AND CHARACTER AS ASSETS AND NOT LIABILITY
AND CHOSE ADAPTIVE USE.
CHOSE LONG-TERM VALUE OVER SHORT TERM CAUTION AND FEAR.
AND TODAY, ITS VINOY IS AN ICON, MAJOR ECONOMIC ENGINE.
THE ADVANTAGE FOR ITS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS, AND IT IS PROOF
THAT THEIR DECISION WAS RIGHT.
YOU NOW FACE SIMILAR CHOICE WITH THE MIRASOL.
LIKE THE VINOY THEN, THE MIRASOL IS A HISTORIC WATERFRONT
HOTEL THAT HAS FALLEN ON HARD TIMES AND FINDING ITS WAY.
THERE ARE MANY VOICES SAYING, WAIT, DO NOTHING, IT WILL STAY
THE SAME.
BUT THE LESSON FROM THE VINOY IS THAT HISTORIC PLACES NEED
FLEXIBILITY TO SURVIVE, NOT STAGNATION, NOT INACTION.
REZONING IS NOT RECKLESS DEVELOPMENT.
ABOUT GIVING HISTORIC PROPERTY A VIABLE FUTURE.
WITHOUT MODERNIZATION, HISTORIC BUILDINGS DO NOT STAY FROZEN
IN TIME.
THE VINOY WAS SAVED BECAUSE LEADERS UNDERSTOOD ONE THING.
PRESERVATION ONLY WORKS WHEN THE ECONOMICS WORKS TOO.
MIRASOL ZONING APPLIES TO THAT SAME LESSON, LET'S KEEP IT
ALIVE.
SUPPORT THIS REZONING.
HISTORY TEACHES US THAT CITIES REGRET THE LANDMARKS THEY
LOSE, NOT THE ONES THEY THOUGHTFULLY ADAPT.
COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION WHERE
EVERYONE WILL SAY THIS GOT THIS DECISION RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR MANAGING THAT DECISION AND HEARING US TONIGHT.
09:59:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
DON'T FORGET TO LEAVE YOUR NUMBERS IF YOU LEAVE THE
BUILDING.
10:00:02PM >> MY NAME IS WYATT CRAFT.
AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE HOTEL CAPITAL MARKETS BUSINESS FOR 12
YEARS NOW.
I WORKED ON A VARIETY OF PROPERTIES AROUND THE REGION.
SOME NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
AS YOU KNOW THE VINOY AS WAS JUST MENTIONED, A ICONIC HOTEL
IN ST. PETE.
WORKED IN THE GRAND HYATT IN WEST SHORE.
HILTON DOWNTOWN, RENAISSANCE INTERNATIONAL PLAZA AND THROUGH
FINANCING, THROUGH SALES OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS.
I HAVE GIVEN THE HOTEL MARKET UPDATE OF THE WEST SHORE
DEVELOPMENT FORUM THE LAST THREE YEARS.
I AM A STUDENT OF THIS INDUSTRY.
WHAT I DEDICATED MY CAREER TOO.
AND TRYING TO BRING SOME PERSPECTIVE FROM THAT BACKGROUND TO
THE CASE OF THIS MAP AMENDMENT TONIGHT.
THE WAY I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS PROPERTY -- THIS
BUILDING IS TODAY AND WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD FOR SOMETHING
THAT IS APPROACHING 100 YEARS OLD.
AND IT IS A CROWN JEWEL OF THE ISLAND.
IT IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED.
I THINK THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING AND ALLOW IT
TO BE RESTORED AFTER ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT THE HURRICANES
BROUGHT IN 2024.
NOW WHEN WE THINK OF WHAT IT IS TODAY OR WHAT IT WAS AS A
MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, TO GET THE RENTS THAT YOU NEED TO
ALLOW THE OWNER TO VIABLY RESTORE IT, IT IS JUST -- IT IS
COST PROHIBITIVE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE.
IN THE CURRENT ZONING, YOU KNOW, RM-50, THAT DENSITY WOULD
ALLOW A MUCH MORE INTENSE PROJECT.
AS THE HOTEL, GIVEN ITS WATERFRONT NATURE AND ITS HISTORY,
THAT IS WHAT GUESTS LOOK FOR.
THAT IS THE EXPERIENCES WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SOMEONE
TRAVELLING TO TAMPA AND WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ITS LIKE
TO LIVE HERE AND THE HISTORY OF THE CITY, YOU ARE CREATING
THAT EXPERIENCE, YOU ARE CREATING THAT MEMORY THAT ALLOWS
THEM TO MAYBE COME BACK TO WANT TO MOVE HERE SOME DAY TO
INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS SUCH A SPECIAL BUILDING THAT WHEN THIS IS
RESTORED, IT IS GOING TO CREATE THOSE MEMORIES FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION.
AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE VINOY.
IT WAS SAVED, AND NOW IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SPECIAL ICONIC
PROPERTIES IN TAMPA BAY.
SO WHY IS IT ONLY VIABLE IF IT IS A HOTEL?
WELL, WITH THE COST TO RESTORE, THE REVENUE POTENTIAL THAT
YOU CAN HAVE AS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF
COMPS.
I DON'T GO INTO DETAIL WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT THE PERFORMANCE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOTEL ONCE IT IS RENOVATED MAKES IT
VIABLE AND OTHERWISE IT WILL PROBABLY GET DEMOLISHED.
IF IT GETS DEMOLISHED, IT WILL BE AN ERASURE OF A HISTORIC
PIECE OF OUR CITY.
YOU THINK OF THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.
RODNEY KITE-POWELL SPEAKING EARLIER HOW THIS WON PLANNING
AWARDS.
I WON'T SPEAK TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND EVERYTHING.
IT HAS BEEN EXHAUSTIVE.
I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
RETAIN A PIECE OF HISTORY AND HOSPITALITY THAT THE CITY WAS
BUILT ON IN THE FIRST PLACE.
10:03:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:03:11PM >> HEY THERE, EVERYBODY.
MY NAME IS NATASHA.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 84 WEST DAVIS BOULEVARD KNOWN AS THE
MIRASOL.
I HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR THREE YEARS.
KIND OF FEELS LIKE FOREVER.
WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED THE MIRASOL TO LOOK AT THE PREMISE FOR
OUR RENTAL, WE WERE BOWLED OVER BY THE HISTORIC NATURE, THE
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, AND WE WENT UP TO THE
SIXTH FLOOR WHICH WAS OVERLOOKING THE MARINA OUT TOWARD
BAYSHORE AND THE WATER.
WE WERE BLOWN AWAY, COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY.
WE WANTED TO SIGN OUR LEASE RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
WE WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY.
AND AS THE DAYS WENT ON, WE BECAME ACQUAINTED WITH OUR
NEIGHBORS.
AND WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MADE A FAMILY THERE.
AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE THE POOL
PARTIES WERE A LITTLE LOUD.
APOLOGIZE, BUT WE REALLY HAD SUCH A GREAT, GREAT TIME LIVING
THERE.
BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, YOU DON'T
LOOK PAST THAT UNTIL LATER ON, AND IT STARTED TO LOSE THE
LUSTER.
AND YOU GOT TO SEE THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON, REALLY.
IT IS 100-YEAR-OLD BUILDING.
IT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED.
THAT HASN'T BEEN HAPPENING, OKAY.
TERMITES.
I WAS TOLD THERE WAS MOISTURE IN THE WALLS.
THAT IS MOLD.
MOSQUITOES, BECAUSE THE BASEMENTS FLOOD.
I HAVE PHOTOS HERE FROM 2004 -- MAY I?
NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE WITH THE GLARE ON IT.
WHERE IS IT?
OKAY.
SO THIS IS PARTS OF THE BASEMENT.
OKAY, THIS IS 2004.
THOSE ISSUES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NEW.
I HAD GONE TO A FEW OF THE MIRASOL EVENTS, AND ONE OF THINGS
I ASKED WHEN I WAS THERE, I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
BEAUTIFUL PLANS.
BEAUTIFUL.
BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?
THERE WAS NO ANSWER.
SO WHEN THEY SAY WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE MIRASOL, I THINK
ABOUT MY FAVORITE QUOTE FROM THE "PRINCESS BRIDE" YOU KEEP
USING THAT WORD BUT I DON'T THINK YOU MEAN IT THE WAY --
EXCUSE ME, I DON'T THINK YOU USE IT THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED
TO BE MEANT, OKAY.
SO IF THEY ARE GOING TO PRESERVE IT, THEY NEED TO DO IT THE
RIGHT WAY AND THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL LATER ON IS NOT GOING TO BE
THE BEST IDEA.
THANK YOU.
10:06:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:06:12PM >> HI THERE, I AM LEX LORENZO.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.
HEARD FROM SOME TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PETITION LIKE I AM,
YOU MUST BE FRIENDS OF THE OWNER.
I DO NOT KNOW THEM.
I HEARD THAT YOU MUST HAVE SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL INTEREST.
I HAVE NONE.
I HAVE HEARD IF YOU ARE A DAVIS ISLAND RESIDENT AND YOUR
SUPPORT THIS, YOU MUST LIVE SO FAR SOUTH IT IS NOT EVEN
GOING TO BOTHER YOU.
I AM ON THE A STREET.
I LIVE CLOSER THAN 50% OF THOSE ON ADALIA TO DO THE MIRASOL.
I AM A MOM ON THE ISLAND.
I HAVE TWO YOUNG SMALL CHILDREN, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE
THIS FIRST STEP IN GETTING MIRASOL RETURNED INTO A HOTEL.
GIVE THE ISLAND AND OUR RESIDENTS ANOTHER AMENITY, SOMETHING
TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
AND I CAN COMPLETE EMPATHIZE WITH PEOPLE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR.
CHANGE IS SCARY.
BUT I ADVOCATE NOT TO BE SCARED OF THIS CHANGE BUT TO
WELCOME IT.
WELCOME THE URBANITY, THE REVITALIZATION OF THE ISLAND.
BRING IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
REASON WE ARE NOT SEEING KIDS PLAYING IN STREET IS NOT
BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC, BUT BECAUSE YOUNG FAMILIES USUALLY CAN'T
EVEN AFFORD TO GET ON THE ISLAND AND LIVE ON ISLAND.
MINIMAL AMENITIES.
THE VILLAGE HAS BEEN DYING ESPECIALLY AT HURRICANES.
NOT FAMILIES AROUND ANYMORE.
HELP US BRING THIS ISLAND BACK BECAUSE IT IS DYING ON THE
VINE.
THANK YOU.
10:07:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:07:49PM >> GOOD EVENING, PATRICK MURPHY.
I ALSO LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
AND STICKING JUST TO THE LAND USE AMENDMENT ISSUE, IT IS
IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT DAVIS ISLAND AS AN ENCLOSED COMMUNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS IN READING THROUGH ALL OF THE LETTERS AND
ALL OF ACTIONS AND FILINGS, SEEING THAT THE PEOPLE TALK
ABOUT HOW IT IS NICE TO BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU CAN
WALK TO A RESTAURANT.
YOU CAN DO THAT WITH THIS, AND DO THIS WITH THAT.
EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON AN ISLAND, OTHER THAN AN ACTUAL
GROCERY STORE.
HAVING A HOTEL IN THE ISLAND WILL FILL A NICHE THAT IS NOT
CURRENTLY FILLED.
PEOPLE COME TO VISIT AND STAY FOR THE HOLIDAYS, HAVING A
PLACE TO WALK HOME TOO AFTER THEY HAVE DINNER AT YOUR HOUSE
IS GREAT.
IF THE MIRASOL IS NOT THERE AND COMMERCIAL MIXED USE
ZONING, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BUSINESS TARGET TO DAVIS
ISLAND RESIDENTS.
HAVING A WATERFRONT TRADER JOE'S WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF
SENSE.
A BUSINESS THAT TARGETS THE COMMUNITY.
SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE WANT DAVIS ISLAND TO BE SEVERAL SUFFICIENT.
AND WHILE IT IS NOT BORDERING ON ANOTHER MIXED USE LOT, THE
MIXED USE LOT IS -- AS THE STAFF PUT IT -- VERY FAR.
.3 MILES AWAY.
IT MAKES SENSE WHEN THEY BUILT IT AS A HOTEL AND WHEN THEY
ZONE IT AS A MIXED USE BEFORE ZONING EVEN EXISTED.
AND HAD IT AS A HOTEL AND MAKES USE TO REZONE IT TO MAKE IT
A MIXED USE LOT.
IT WILL SERVE THAT PART OF THE ISLAND AND HAVE NECESSARY
AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF TAMPA GENERAL
HOSPITAL AND OTHER PLACES AROUND THE ISLAND.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ISLAND AS A WHOLE ENTITY
AND LOOK AT IT AS A COMPLETE PICTURE, AND I THINK THAT THE
COMMERCIAL MIXED USE MAKES SENSE TO THAT POINT.
THANK YOU.
10:09:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE BEEN PATIENT.
YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEAK FOR QUITE A WHILE.
10:09:54PM >> I HAD NUMBER 91.
10:09:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
10:09:57PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS RICHARD BLOU.
I'M HERE IN TWO CAPACITIES REALLY.
FIRST, AS A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND.
I LIVED ON THE ISLAND SINCE I WAS BORN IN TAMPA GENERAL
HOSPITAL 68 YEARS AGO.
MY FAMILY HAS GROWN UP ON DAVIS ISLAND.
ONE OF THE MYTHS I WOULD LIKE TO DISPEL IS THE NOTION TO
THAT ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING CLOSE TO THE MIRASOL ARE
OPPOSED TO IT.
MY FAMILY LIVES AT 545 LADRONE AVENUE WHICH IS ALMOST ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE ISLAND, AND I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE CHANGE
TO THE LAND USE PLAN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A MATERIAL IMPACT, A NEGATIVE IMPACT
ON WHAT DAVIS ISLAND IS, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, A
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD TURN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INTO SOMETHING
MUCH DIFFERENT FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS THAT YOU HEARD THIS
EVENING.
AND I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID SO
ELOQUENTLY BY EXPERTS, BY RESIDENTS, BY DEVELOPERS, BY
PEOPLE THAT I BELIEVE ALL HAVE SINCERE INTERESTS IN DAVIS
ISLAND.
BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THE -- IS THE IRREFUTABLE
TRUTH THAT THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND CHANGING THE LAND USE
PLAN TO ALLOW FOR GREATER DEVELOPMENT ON THE ISLAND WILL
WORK A MATERIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ISLAND.
I AM ALSO HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS THE TRUSTEE FOR THE
THEODORE H. BLOU AND LILY R. BLOU TRUSTS THAT OWN 211 AND
213 EAST DAVIS BOULEVARD, PART OF THE DAVIS ISLAND VILLAGE.
YOU MAY BE SURPRISED THAT PART OF THE VILLAGE IS OPPOSED
TO THE LAND USE PLAN BASED ON SOME OF COMMENTS THAT YOU
HEARD TODAY.
BUT I TAKE ON BEHALF OF THE TRUST AND ON BEHALF OF
BENEFICIARIES OF THE TRUST, WHICH INCLUDE ME, THE POSITION
THAT FOR THE LONG VIEW AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
THAT IS DAVIS ISLAND, WE SHOULD NOT SACRIFICE THAT
CONTINUITY, THAT RESIDENTIAL NATURE FOR UNNECESSARY
COMMERCIAL PROFIT.
I AM ALL FOR COMMERCIAL PROFIT, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT IS
MOST IMPORTANT IS THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF DAVIS ISLAND.
AND TOWARD THAT END, ONE LAST THING.
I DON'T THINK THIS HAS BEEN RAISED BY ANYBODY, SO IT MAY BE
NEW INFORMATION.
IT IS IN MY SUBMISSION.
THIS SHOWS THE EXACT RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF DAVIS ISLAND AND
WHY TRAFFIC WILL BE A PROBLEM.
THREE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS, FIVE MAJOR ARTERY
INTERSECTIONS, AND TEN RESIDENTIAL OUTLETS.
THESE ALL COME TOGETHER TO MAKE TRAFFIC UNBEARABLE.
I AM OUT OF TIME.
THANK YOU.
10:13:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
MR. SHELBY?
BACK INTO YOUR BOX.
SOMEBODY UNLEASHED -- YEAH, EXACTLY.
WHO GAVE HIM THE KEY TO THAT.
10:13:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SEE FOUR NAMES.
MELANIE VALBERG.
THANK YOU.
CHRISTOPHER.
THANK YOU.
GRANT CHUNGO.
THANK YOU.
MADISON BAPTISTA.
FOUR PLUS THREE EQUALS SEVEN MINUTES.

10:14:13PM >> JACK KANE.
IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT FOR EVERYONE.
10:14:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
10:14:19PM >> MR. SHELBY'S MATH SKILLS ARE STILL SHARP.
I'M NOT HERE FOR EITHER SIDE.
I HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN EITHER SIDE.
I HAVE NOT BEEN CONTRACTED BY THE OTHER SIDE.
I'M NOT PAID BY EITHER SIDE.
WHAT I DO BRING TO THIS OCCASION IS A UNIQUE EXPERTISE IN
HOTEL PARKING TRENDS.
BOTH SIDES HAVE CONDUCTED TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT, QUITE
FRANKLY, I DON'T AGREE WITH EITHER OF THEM.
I ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE BOTH MISSING THE BOAT TO THE HIGH
SIDE.
I SAT HERE FOR THE LAST FIVE HOURS, IT IS MY FIRST TIME
COMING INTO A COUNCIL MEETING.
I DID NOT EXPECT IT TO TAKE THIS LONG.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS NOTION OF THE 4900 -- EXCUSE ME,
4,900 PERCENT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC IS NOT WHAT IS ACTUALLY
BEING PROPOSED FOR THE HOTEL.
I LIVE IN TAMPA.
THE COMPANY I WORK FOR ONLY WORKS WITH HOTELS.
WE WORK WITH HOTELS COAST TO COAST.
I'VE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP GROUPS, MANAGEMENT
COMPANIES AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES.

WHEN I DID FIRST SPEAK TO THE OWNERS OF THE MIRASOL, I WAS A
LITTLE BIT SURPRISED AT THE REACTION.
USUALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS POINT IN THE APPROVAL STAGE,
EVERYONE IS LOOKING TO CHECK A BOX.
WHEN I BROUGHT WHAT I THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, IT WAS
QUICKLY ADDRESSED.
I WANT TO ACTUALLY COME WITH SOME CONCRETE STATS, NOT
HYPOTHETICALS ON WHAT THIS REDEVELOPMENT OR A RESTORATION
MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
THESE ARE REAL STATISTICS FROM TAMPA.
ALL WITHIN A FIVE-MILE RADIUS OF THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL.
SO THE STATISTIC I'M GOING TO BE USING, IT IS CALLED DRIVE
IN RATE.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF HOTEL GUESTS BRING A VEHICLE WITH THEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, FOR EVERY TEN OCCUPIED HOTEL ROOMS, HOW MANY
CARS. IF THERE ARE FIVE CARS FOR TEN OCCUPIED ROOMS, YOUR
DRIVE-IN RATE WOULD BE 50%.
IN TAMPA, THE AVERAGE DRIVING RATE IS 35%.
THE HIGHEST WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS IN A GIVEN
MONTH FOR ANY HOTEL IS 39%.
I LIVE IN DATA.
I LOVE TO STRESS TEST THINGS AND SEE WHERE THINGS WOULD LOOK
LIKE STEADY STATE OR ON THE HIGH END.
IF WE SUPPOSE EVERY HOTEL ROOM IS OCCUPIED, ALL 118 KEYS, IF
THE AVERAGE DRIVE-IN RATE HOLDS STRICTLY FOR THE HOTEL -- I

KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THINGS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE
DAVIS BOULEVARD GARAGE VERSUS THE NORTH GARAGE.
IF WE WERE TO CUT -- IF THIS PROCEEDED AS PLANNED AND LET'S
IMAGINE THAT THE PROPERTY IS RESTORED AND EXACTLY WHAT IS
PROPOSED HAPPENS, THEN WE CUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN HALF.
THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, STAY ON
ONE SIDE AND WE JUST LOOK AT THE HOTEL AND THE TRAFFIC THAT
BRINGS.
IF EVERY HOTEL ROOM WAS OCCUPIED, IT WOULD HAVE 41 CARS IF
THE STATISTICS FROM ALL MAJOR HOTELS IN TAMPA HOLD TRUE.
THE DAVIS BOULEVARD GARAGE HOLDS 48 VEHICLES WITHOUT JAMMING
ANY ADDITIONAL CARS.
WE LIKE TO CALL THEM STACKING.
I'VE LOOKED AT BOTH SIDES, BOTH WEBSITES, BOTH PLANS, I GIVE
A LOT OF CREDIT FOR SOME OF THE CREATIVITY IN A POSITIVE
WAY.
TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLE LIFTS, BUT THEY ARE VERY
COMMON IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
THAT'S WHERE ESSENTIALLY YOU DRIVE A CAR ON A GLORIFIED
ELEVATOR, LIFTS IT UP AND GIVES SPACE TO PARK ANOTHER
VEHICLE UNDERNEATH THEM.
VERY COMMONLY USED IN AREAS WHERE KEEPING A NARROW FOOTPRINT
IS PARAMOUNT.
EVEN UNDER THE MOST STRESSFUL OF ENVIRONMENTS, I DON'T SEE
THE HOTEL GENERATING THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC SUFFICIENT TO BE

CONCERNED.
IF WE LOOK AT STRICTLY THE BUSIEST TIMES, AVERAGE HOTEL, THE
BUSIEST TIME FOR GUESTS ARRIVING ARE ON FRIDAY, BETWEEN
5 P.M. AND 7 P.M.
TYPICALLY FROM OUR DATA IN A GIVEN HOUR DURING THAT WINDOW,
THE MOST STRESSFUL PERIOD WE'LL OBSERVE 20% OF THE TOTAL
BASE TRAFFIC ARRIVING WITHIN THAT ONE-HOUR WINDOW.
WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN HERE WITH THE AVERAGE DRIVING
STATISTICS IS ABOUT EIGHT CARS DURING THE BUSIEST HOUR THAT
WE WOULD SEE FOR THE HOTEL.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WOULD BE ONE CAR EVERY SEVEN AND A HALF
MINUTES.
THE OTHER THING I WAS SURPRISED WITH WAS THE SIZE OF THE
FRONT DRIVEWAY, WALKING THROUGH DOWNTOWN TAMPA, THE CLOSEST
HOTEL TO US I BELIEVE IS THE HYATT.
I JUST PACED IT OFF WHILE WALKING AROUND.
THE INSIDE CURB THERE IS 55 FEET.
IT HAS 345 HOTEL ROOMS.
THIS PROPOSAL, THE INSIDE CURB IS 85 FEET FOR 118 ROOMS.
THERE IS PLENTY OF ROOM THAT IF ALL OF THOSE VEHICLES
ARRIVED AT THE SAME TIME, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A VALET'S
DREAM.
THERE'S SO MUCH ROOM TO MANEUVER TO MAKE SURE THAT GUESTS
ARE HAVING A GOOD EXPERIENCE WHILE PREVENTING BACKUPS.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH, WE HAVE A

LOT OF TAMPA DATA, BUT NATIONALLY, WE ALSO HAVE DATA AS IT
RELATES TO HOTELS WITHIN A TWO-MILE RADIUS OF A MAJOR
MEDICAL CENTER.
INTERESTING PHENOMENA OCCURS, ACTUALLY.
WHEN YOU ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF A MAJOR HOSPITAL, DRIVE-IN
PATTERNS CHANGE DRASTICALLY.
THEY DROP BY SEVEN TO TEN POINTS.
IN THAT SCENARIO, THE AVERAGE DRIVING RATE OF 35% DROPS TO
28 AND THE MOST STRESSFUL DAY OR THE AVERAGE DAY INSTEAD OF
41 CARS, YOU HAVE 33 CARS.
THERE IS NOT A LOT OF EVENT SPACE.
SITTING IN HERE, ONE OF THE FIRST SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT
THERE ARE A LOT OF WEDDINGS AND A LOT OF BAR MITZVAHS AND
GATHERINGS.
WE RUN VALET FOR MANY OF THE MAJOR HOTELS IN TAMPA, MOST OF
THE ONES IN ST. PETE, CLEARWATER, SARASOTA, THIS IS NOT A
SIGNIFICANT MEETING SPACE OR EVENT SPACE UNLESS YOUR IDEA OF
A MAJOR GATHERING IS TEN OF YOUR CLOSEST FRIENDS.
AGAIN, I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH EITHER SIDE.
I'VE JUST BEEN MONITORING DEVELOPMENTS --
10:21:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, NO.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
SERIOUSLY.
IF YOU ARE DISRUPTIVE IN THE PROCEEDING, I WILL REMOVE YOU
FROM CHAMBER.

GO AHEAD.
10:21:06PM >> I'VE BEEN INVOLVED ON DEVELOPMENTS.
I'VE SPOKEN AGAINST DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE.
THIS ONE MAKES SENSE STATISTICALLY.
THAT'S ALL I'M HERE TRYING TO MAKE A POINT ON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:21:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL BE RESPECTFUL FOR EVERYBODY.
SAME FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
NEXT SPEAKER, THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
10:21:27PM >> DAVID SEARS.
127 ADALIA DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE NORTH PARKING LOT, THE
MIRASOL.
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF TESTIMONY TONIGHT AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE
TALKING ABOUT HOW LOVE DRIVING PAST THE PROPERTY.
I DO IT, ENJOY LOOKING AT IT.
I LIVE NEXT TO IT DAY TO DAY.
SO I SEE THE IMPACT OF WHAT IT DOES RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF THAT.
DRIVING SAFETY-WISE, THE TRAFFIC, I HAVE TAUGHT MY TEENAGE
DRIVERS, THEY HAVE TO TAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT OF THERE.
IT IS TOO DANGEROUS AS IT IS WITH THE TRAFFIC TO GO LEFT.
I CAN SIT AND WAIT FOR 10, 15 MINUTES, MORNINGS, AFTERNOONS,
TO TAKE A LEFT TURN.
TAKING A RIGHT TURN CAN EVEN BE DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF ALL THE

CARS PARKED IN FRONT OF THE MIRASOL AT TIMES.
I HEARD ANOTHER PERSON TALK ABOUT THE HOSPITAL PARKING,
THAT'S NOT ON ADALIA, NOT WHERE I LIVE ON ADALIA, BUT MAYBE
UP NORTH.
WHERE I LIVE, I WATCH PEOPLE GET OUT OF THE CARS, CARS WITH
BOATS ATTACHED TO THEM IN FRONT OF THE HYDRANTS.
AND WALK INTO THE MIRASOL.
THEY LIVE THERE OR AIRBNB.
I STOPPED MY DAUGHTER, SHE COMES BACK, SHE CAN'T WALK THE
DOG BY HERSELF ANYMORE.
THE AIRBNB PEOPLE ARE SMOKING CIGARETTES OUT BY THE WALL.
SHE DOESN'T FEEL SAFE.
OR TAKE A BROTHER OR WALK WEST DOWN WHERE WE KNOW THE
NEIGHBORS, EVERYBODY KNOWS THEIR NAMES.
I KNOW FRANK.
I KNOW ANA.
I KNOW JOHN.
I KNOW TRACY.
WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER.
THE AIRBNBs HAVE INTRODUCED A PIECE WHERE WE DO NOT KNOW
OUR NEIGHBORS.
IF YOU TAKE THAT TO A HOTEL -- LITTLE BACKGROUND, I DID A
LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS IN THE NAVY.
DID IT OVERSEAS, FOUGHT IN LOTS OF WARS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS
LIKE THAT.

GENERALLY KEEP IT SIMPLE GUY.
COMMON SENSE.
I'M MISSING A LOT HERE.
I DON'T HAVE A GOOD COMPREHENSION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING,
REALLY.
I SEE LIKE THE COUNCIL SAYS THEY DISAPPROVE OF IT 7-0.
CITY PLANNERS SAY THEY DISAPPROVE IT.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS MIRASOL.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MIRASOL.
WHATEVER.
I WANT TO PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
FEEL.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT A LAND USE IS FOR.
CHANGE THIS TO COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, IT COMPLETELY AND
FOREVER CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE BEEN CALLED AS A NEIGHBOR SOMEBODY THERE, I'VE BEEN
CALLED EXHAUSTIVE.
I'VE BEEN CALLED SCARED OF CHANGE.
I'M NOT SCARED OF MANY THINGS AT ALL, EXCEPT THE SAFETY OF
MY FAMILY AND THE KIDS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THAT
REMAINS.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT SCARES ME.
FOR THAT, I'D LIKE YOU TO PRESERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT
CHANGE THAT LAND USE AND MAKE ME LIVE DOWNTOWN WHERE I
DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE.

THANK YOU.
10:24:29PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
MY NAME IS MEGAN MOORE.
BASED ON WHAT THE NICE GENTLEMAN SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
INSTEAD OF HAVING A BIG BOX, IKEA APARTMENT COMPLEX, BECAUSE
AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HEARD EVERY SIDE, BUT TO BE VERY
SIMPLISTIC, I VALUE OUR HISTORY AND THE HISTORICAL BUILDING
THAT IT IS, WHETHER IT IS DEEMED HISTORICAL OR NOT.
EVERYBODY CAN AGREE THAT IS THE GEM OF THE ISLAND.
THESE PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO KEEP IT AND KEEP IT IN THE TACT
THAT IT WAS PRESERVED AND SUPPOSED TO BE.
I KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, IT'S
PROBABLY GOING TO BE BULLDOZED AND ANOTHER IKEA APARTMENT
BUILDING.
I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF 20 YEARS OF THE DAVIS ISLAND COMMUNITY
AND I DON'T HAVE A JOB HERE.
I HAVE NO AFFILIATION.
I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM THE HEART.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE IT RESTORED AND IN THE HISTORICAL
SETTING IT IS MEANT TO BE.
INDEED, WE ALL LOVE IT AND WANT TO KEEP IT AS A COMMUNITY AS
THE PERSON BEFORE US JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE COMMUNITY THAT I
LOVE.

THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAY.
THANK YOU.
10:25:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:25:38PM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS STEVE GIANFILIPPO.
I'M UP HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M IN FAVOR OF AND THE EVOLUTION OF OUR CITY.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT ON ME, I'VE SPENT PROBABLY THE
LAST TEN YEARS OF MY LIFE OWNING, OPERATING, RESTORING, AND
INVESTING IN HISTORICAL BUILDINGS.
I'VE OWNED OR HAVE OWNED IN THE PAST SEVEN COMMERCIAL
STRUCTURES.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE STRUCTURES, HOTEL CABANA ON
CLEARWATER BEACH, 1947 HOTEL CORDOVA ST. PETE, 1921 STATION
HOUSE, ST. PETE 1911.
LAFAYETTE ARCADE SITUATED NEXT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA
WHICH IRONICALLY USED TO BE A HOTEL.
IT IS THE BIG BLACK-AND-WHITE BUILDING THAT SITS NEXT TO UT.
STATION HOUSE ARCADE 1924, AND A FEW OTHERS THAT ARE
PRE-1930s.
UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
IT'S REALLY BEEN A PASSION OF MINE.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE FORGET ABOUT THE HISTORY AND IT COMES
DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE IN LOOKING AT OUR

HISTORY AND REALLY STUDYING SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU'VE BEEN
PRESENTED WITH.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS RELATE TO A VERY COMMON SENSE QUESTION,
WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU BUILD A HOTEL?
WHERE ELSE WOULD WE BUILD A HOTEL, RIGHT?
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF THE MIRASOL, IF YOU LOOK
AROUND IT, THERE'S NOTHING AROUND IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
BUILD A HOTEL TO GET THE PEOPLE HERE.
AND THEN THE HOUSES ARE BUILT.
SO I THINK THERE IS AN IMPORTANCE AND I THINK THERE'S
RELEVANCE LOOKING BACK AT THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING,
WHICH IT IS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE HOTEL IN MY WORLD EQUALS CONVENIENCE.
IT'S NOT JUST BY CHANCE IT HAPPENS TO BE NEXT TO
RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A NECESSITY.
IT'S EITHER A NECESSITY BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY OR IT ACTUALLY BUILDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
WHICH IN OUR CASE, IT WAS USED TO BUILD THE NEIGHBORHOODS,
RIGHT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THEY DON'T LIE.
THE HOTELS WERE THERE FIRST, AND THE RESIDENTIAL WAS THERE
AFTER THAT.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, RIGHT, GO DOWN A LIST.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAD MENTIONED THIS.

WE HEARD ABOUT THE VINOY, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
BREAKERS IN PALM BEACH, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
DON CESAR, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
MIRASOL OBVIOUSLY SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA USED TO BE A HOTEL, RIGHT?
BAREFOOT BEACH CLUB WHICH I OWN, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
HOTEL CABANA, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
EPICUREAN, SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, TO THROW THIS IN IF I HAVE TIME, WHICH
IS IRONICALLY I DID RESEARCH.
PROBABLY 130 AIRBNBs ON DAVIS ISLAND.
PROBABLY OPERATING ILLEGALLY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE USING DAVIS ISLAND AND STAYING ON DAVIS
ISLAND.
THERE'S JUST NO HOTEL THERE.
10:28:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:28:51PM >> HI, EVERYBODY.
CHRISTIAN LEONE, 2010 EAST PALM AVENUE.
I'M SPEAKING PERSONALLY AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BAY
COMMUNITY DESIGN CENTER.
A LOT OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONING HISTORIC
PRESERVATION FOR YEARS.
I WOULDN'T BE UP HERE SUPPORTING WITH A CLEAN CONSCIENCE IF
THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND GO THROUGH THE

ANALYSIS AND WANT TO SUPPORT.
BUT WHAT I JUST WANT TO SAY IS, A LOT OF YOU GUYS KNOW ME,
BUT ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I'M AN ONLY CHILD AND RAISED BY A
MOM WHO HAD A COMPLETE FEAR OF ME DOING ANYTHING.
I'M USED TO GETTING MY MOM'S INPUT THAT I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO
DO ORDER PIZZA BECAUSE THEY MIGHT KILL ME AT THE DOOR.
I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GO OUT AND EVER HAVE FUN, EVEN THOUGH
THEY ARE IN THEIR 80s AND STILL GOING OUT TO CLUBS.
I'M KIND OF USED TO HEARING THE HORRIBLE HYPOTHETICALS THAT
MIGHT HAPPEN.
I UNDERSTAND THE RESIDENTS' CONCERNS BUT I THINK SOME OF
THEM ARE OUTLANDISH.
EARLIER, A TRAFFIC ENGINEER SAID THE TRAFFIC WOULD GO FROM
263 TRIPS TO 13,000.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLANS, OKAY, YOU HAVE 110 ROOMS AND 10
CONDOS.
IF YOU DIVIDE IT, IT WOULD MEAN BASICALLY THAT EVERYONE
GOING THERE WOULD BE IN A CAR WITH MULTIPLE FRIENDS IN OTHER
CARS GOING IN LOOPS DAILY TO GET TO 13,000.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT NUMBER CAME UP.
ALSO, I'VE BEEN VERY PRIVILEGED AS A PERSON.
I'VE BEEN TO VERY HIGH-END BOUTIQUE HOTELS.
I HAVE RARELY BEEN IN A SITUATION IN ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU
CAN MISBEHAVE BECAUSE IT IS VERY QUICKLY CALLED TO YOUR
ATTENTION AND YOU GET KICKED OUT.

I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT MISBEHAVING.
I THINK RESIDENTS HAVE A FEAR THAT THE BACKYARD OF THE
MIRASOL WILL TURN INTO THE UNDERTOW IN ST. PETE OR SOMETHING
CRAZY WILL HAPPEN.
I DON'T THINK THEY PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF OUTLOOK FOR THE
GUESTS STAYING THERE.
I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, A, OF COURSE, PRESERVE A
BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.
I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
I KNOW A LOT OF YOU GUYS REALLY PASSIONATELY LOVE TAMPA'S
HISTORY.
I THINK THIS IS A MOMENT TO PRESERVE SOMETHING THAT'S VERY
SPECIAL FOR TAMPA.
BUT ON TOP OF THAT, ALSO THINK LONG TERM, I THINK THAT THE
FEARS THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE WILL SUBSIDE.
I THINK THIS IS A REAL NICE ASSET.
PEOPLE ON THE TEAM THAT ARE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER ARE KNOWN
ENTITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT THEIR CREDIBILITY IF THEY SAY THEY WILL DO
SOMETHING, I THINK THEY MADE EVERY EFFORT TO ENGAGE THE
COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE TO ADDRESS PEOPLE'S CONCERNS.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT.
10:31:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING OFF-LINE ABOUT THE STORIES OF
HOW YOU GOT KICKED OUT OF THE HOTELS.

10:31:45PM >> HI THERE.
I'M ANA MURRAY.
122 ADALIA AVENUE.
WE'RE AT A LAND USE HEARING, CORRECT?
I KEEP HEARING A LOT OF REZONING STUFF AS WELL.
I LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE MIRASOL.
I REQUEST THAT YOU DENY TA/CPA 24-18.
CITY PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE LAND USE
CHANGE CONCLUDING IT WOULD CHANGE THE FABRIC OF THE EXISTING
RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THIS COULD NOT BE MORE ACCURATE.
WE HAVE RAISED OUR FAMILY, LIVED HERE 31 YEARS.
UNTIL THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT WAS A PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE OF
NEIGHBORS WITH THE MIRASOL.
IT EVOLVED FROM QUIET RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING TO
RESIDENTIAL WITH ADDITION OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT SHORT-TERM
RENTALS.
ONE POINT IN TIME THERE WAS A PARTY BOAT RENTAL OFF THE
DOCK.
SHIFT TO COMMERCIAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE, INCREASED PARTY
ATMOSPHERE, ESCALATING NOISE, INCREASED CHAOTIC PARKING ON
THE STREET AND BOAT TRAFFIC.
SMALL DOSE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS ALREADY INCOMPATIBLE.
WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE EXPONENTIAL IMPACT OF A FULL-SCALE,
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY, DOUBLING THE AMOUNT

ALLOWED ON THE SITE TODAY AND ALLOWING BUSINESSES SUCH AS
BARS, HOTEL, COMMERCIAL MARINA AND OTHERS WITH INCOMPATIBLE
USES THAT ARE TOO MANY TO NAME, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU
WILL GRANT THE INVESTORS OF THE MIRASOL WITH CMU 35.
THERE WERE 270 PETITIONS.
IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING NEAR THE MIRASOL DO
NOT WANT THE LAND USE CHANGE.
THE LAND USE REQUEST IS NOT FOR THE LESSER -- BUT CMU 35
WITH ADDITIONAL WAIVERS.
DENSITY AND INTENSITY WOULD OVERWHELM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD NOT BEAR THE BURDEN FINANCIALLY OR
OTHERWISE FOR THE DECISION OF THE INVESTORS OF THE MIRASOL.
THEY PAID $20 MILLION FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN HOPES OF A
MASSIVE LAND USE CHANGE.
THIS WOULD ENCOURAGE ISOLATED INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE IN A
VERY UNIQUELY RESIDENTIAL DAVIS ISLANDS.
IT CAN BE RESTORED WITH OTHER LESS INTENSE DENSE MEANS.
FURTHER, THERE IS A PUBLIC POLICY TO ENSURE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING OPTIONS ARE MAINTAINED.
THE MIRASOL APARTMENTS CAN HOUSE OVER 50 APARTMENTS FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
MANY PEOPLE MOVE THERE WHILE THEIR HOMES WERE BEING REDONE
AFTER THE HURRICANES.
ADDITIONALLY, NOT EVERYONE MOVING TO TAMPA AREA WANTS TO
LIVE IN A HIGH DENSITY, MIXED USE COMMUNITY.

THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE ON DAVIS ISLANDS.
THEY WANT TO BE CLOSE TO WORK AND THE NIGHT LIFE BUT NOT IN
THE FRAY OF THE ACTIVITY.
LAST MONTH ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS I HAVE MET PEOPLE WHO
TELL ME HOW THRILLED THEY WERE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
EVERYONE REFERS TO THE MIRASOL APARTMENTS AS GEM OF DAVIS
ISLANDS.
THE TRUE GEM OF DAVIS ISLANDS ARE THE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE
HERE TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION DO NOT WANT A LAND USE CHANGE
THAT WOULD DESTROY THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DENY THE LAND USE CHANGE.
10:34:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:34:38PM >> AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE LAST.
10:34:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR FULL NAME.
10:34:49PM >> SUPPOSED TO BE.
10:34:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIVE NAMES.
SANDRA VALENZUELA.
THANK YOU.
NANCY FOSNAUGHT.
THANK YOU.
KELLA McCASKILL.
THANK YOU.

TARAH BLUMA.
ALISON HEWITT.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S FIVE AND THREE MAKE EIGHT.
10:35:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.
10:35:24PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING ABOUT LEGISLATIVE STUFF IS PEOPLE
CAN COME UP HERE AND TELL A STORY.
SOMETIMES WE TELL STORIES ON PURPOSE.
SOMETIMES WE TELL STORIES AND THEN WE CHANGE OUR MINDS.
LIKE I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY YESTERDAY AND TOLD
THEM I LET CARROLL ANN WRITE MY SPEECH AND THEN I CHANGED MY
MIND.
IN MY OPINION, THIS IS PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IF YOU TRULY WANT TO KEEP THE MIRASOL SAFE, THIS SHOULD BE A
HISTORICAL DESIGNATION MEETING.
I TOLD LINDA SAUL-SENA THAT EARLIER THIS EVENING AND AGREED.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FIRST.
YOU CAN'T SAVE ANYTHING IF YOU APPROVE THIS LAND USE CHANGE.
YOU CAN SAVE NOTHING.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING YOU CAN DO FROM THEM TAKING A
BULLDOZER TO IT TOMORROW BECAUSE IT IS NOT HISTORICALLY
DESIGNATED.
2022, SOG WAS SOLD A CMU 35, A FLU CHANGE FOR A COFFEE SHOP.

WE WERE SOLD A BILL OF GOODS.
BUT WE HAD CONCERNS, BUT WE SUPPORTED IT, BECAUSE THAT
GENTLEMAN GOT UP, HE SWORE UP AND DOWN SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY
THAT HE WAS GOING TO BUILD A COFFEE SHOP.
WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.
10:36:42PM >> NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES BECAUSE I BELIEVE COMMERCIAL IN THE
NEIGHBORHOODS MAKE FOR BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO MEET AFTER WORK OR AFTER SCHOOL AND
GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
10:36:53PM >> CMU 35 SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF US.
MICHAEL HAS TOLD ME AND TYLER HAVE TOLD ME THIS IS NOT GOING
TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
NOBODY IS GOING TO PUT APARTMENTS IN.
BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT APPREHENSION BECAUSE OF THAT, AND I
COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS TELLING ME THE
TRUTH.
BUT IF HE GOT HIT BY A BUS ON THE WAY HOME, HIS WIFE WOULD
BE SMART TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
10:37:22PM >> I HAD QUESTIONS BEFORE MS. POYNOR BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT THE
INTENSIFICATION OF THE CMU 35.
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS HESITANTLY BECAUSE COMMUNITY
MIXED USE 35, THE SITE SCARES ME.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PD THAT'S COMING COULD SOLVE THAT.
10:37:51PM >> WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
AS MS. HURTAK SAID, DON'T MAKE ME REGRET THIS.

10:38:02PM >> AS TYLER MENTIONED, THE PD LIMITS US TO THIS.
SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AND WITHIN 12, 24 MONTHS, HOPEFULLY
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE WALKING GOLF CART, BIKING
DISTANCE TO COFFEE AND ICE CREAM.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:38:28PM >> I BELIEVE THAT MAN WAS SINCERE.
I BELIEVE HE WAS TELLING US THE TRUTH.
BUT, THE PROBLEM IS, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY EXAMPLE I CAN GIVE
YOU.
ME PERSONALLY, IN 2005, OUR FORMER CITY ATTORNEY, GINA
GRIMES, CAME UP HERE AND TOLD THAT CITY COUNCIL OVER AND
OVER AGAIN IN 2005, WE CAN DO THIS LAND USE CHANGE.
WE CAN DO THIS LAND USE CHANGE.
IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMAN COHEN AT THE
TIME HAD BIG CONCERNS ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL ON RATTLESNAKE
POINT.
SAID NO, NO, IT'S NOT THE TIME TO SAY STOP.
IT IS NOT THE TIME TO SAY STOP.
THAT'S AT THE REZONING.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED, EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY ONE OF THOSE PLAN
AMENDMENTS CAME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR A
REZONING.
AND CITY COUNCIL TOLD THEM NO, AND THEN THEY FILED SUIT.
I WILL BE DAMNED.
THEY FILED SUIT.

THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THEY CANNOT FILE SUIT.
AND IF YOU REALLY AND TRULY WANT TO SAVE THE MIRASOL, YOU
GIVE THEM A PAT ON THE BUTT, TELL THEM TO GO TO HISTORICAL
PRESERVATION LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE TO START WITH, AND GET IT
PRESERVED.
THEY CAN TEAR IT DOWN TOMORROW AND DO WHATEVER THEY PLEASE
WITH THIS PROPERTY IF YOU CHANGE THE ZONING ON IT.
I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN IT MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
CITY.
I'VE BEEN TO MORE FLUEDRAs THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY.
TONIGHT, WE ARE WITNESSING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUT THE
CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
THE HORSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- THE HORSE SHOULD BE THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO KEEP THIS
FROM HAPPENING.
INSURABILITY DOESN'T MEAN SQUAT.
WHAT REALLY GETS ME, PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN UP HERE DURING
PUBLIC COMMENT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND TOLD
US THE APPLICANT IS ALMOST BROKE.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
THIS PLACE IS BREAKING THEM OFF.
THE VERY NEXT BREATH WE HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL TALK ABOUT
HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE.
FIRST OF ALL, NONE OF THAT IS RELEVANT.
IF THEY BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, JUST LIKE IF I BUY A

PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT IS A CRAP PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHO IS
THAT ON?
IT'S ON ME.
WHAT REALLY STANDS OUT TO ME PERSONALLY IS THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO WERE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS IN THAT PROPERTY AND SAY
THEY WERE VERY HAPPY THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED THAT'S NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR
THEM, AND NOW THEY SHOULD ALL BE AIRBNBs.
THEY ARE ALREADY RUNNING A HOTEL.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY RIGHTS AWAY FROM THEM BY NOT APPROVING
A HUGE HOTEL BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY RUNNING A HOTEL.
THEY ARE ALREADY DOING WHAT THEY ARE ASKING TO DO WITHOUT A
PD CHANGE, WITHOUT PUTTING A HISTORIC STRUCTURE AT RISK
BECAUSE THERE IS NOBODY HERE THAT'S UNDER OATH.
THEY CAN GET UP HERE AND TELL YOU ANYTHING THEY WANT BECAUSE
THERE IS NOTHING TO HOLD US TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TO YOU.
NOTHING.
THEY MADE A CHOICE TO BUY A PROPERTY.
THEY OWNED IT PLENTY LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE THE HISTORIC
DESIGNATION.
WHY NOT?
IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THIS HISTORIC PROPERTY, THE VERY FIRST
THING YOU DO IS GO AND HAVE IT HISTORICALLY REGISTERED, BUT
YET HERE WE ARE WITH NO HISTORIC REGISTRATION.
THE HYPERBOLE COMING HERE TONIGHT HAS BEEN -- I DON'T HAVE

ANY MONEY.
WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MONEY ON THIS DEAL, BUT EVERYBODY HAS
T-SHIRTS.
THEY PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE.
THEY GOT PR PEOPLE IN HERE WORKING THE CROWD, FEEDING
EVERYBODY WHO SHOWED UP FOR THEIR SIDE.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF INTERESTING TO ME.
I HAVE TO SAY THIS, AND YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THIS, EVERYBODY
WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY KNOWS THAT I AM NOT A FAN OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD.
I LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, BUT
THE BOARD, I'M NOT A FAN OF.
BUT THEY UNANIMOUSLY TURNED THIS DOWN.
THEY UNANIMOUSLY -- NOT LIKE ONE OR TWO, BUT ALL OF THEM
SAID THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY BAD IDEA.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE DEVELOPMENT, WHO TALK SMACK ABOUT
HOW -- OH, WAIT, WAIT.
THIS ISN'T CHHA, WHICH I DON'T EVEN HAVE IN MY NOTES.
WHY WOULD WE INCREASE DENSITY IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA?
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT?
OH, WAIT.
EVERYBODY HAS SAID THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
AND WE REALLY DON'T WANT IT WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
10:43:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:43:43PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
GREG WILKERSON.
I WILL TRY AND KEEP THIS SHORT OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYBODY
HERE AND THE MANY SPEAKERS WE'VE HAD IN FRONT OF US.
I'M A 40-YEAR RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLANDS.
I GREW UP TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE MIRASOL.
I VOLUNTEER ON THE ISLAND IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
COACHED MY KIDS IN SOFTBALL, VOLUNTEERED FOR NUMEROUS
CLEANUPS.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE ISLAND.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT I WOULD DO MORE FOR MY COMPANY THAN TO
HELP OUT.
I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANTS THEMSELVES
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES AS COMMUNITIES WE DO NOT GET TO HAVE
A SAY AS TO WHO THE DEVELOPERS ARE.
I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A FAMILY THAT LIVES ON THE
ISLAND, AND WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH TO LOSE IN THE
SITUATION.
THEY HAVE DONE ALL THE RIGHT THINGS.
I THINK IN THE SITUATION, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THEY WILL

EXECUTE, THEY HAVE TO EXECUTE.
THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT
THINGS AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING
SOMEBODY COMING IN FROM MIAMI, NEW YORK, WHERE MAYBE THEY
DON'T CONSIDER THE BEST USE IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY MENTIONED, TOO, AND I HEARD BEFORE
THE PD DOES NOT MATTER.
IN THIS SCENARIO, THE PD ISN'T APPROVED AT THE NEXT HEARING.
THEY HAVE BEEN WILLING TO RELINQUISH THEIR COMP PLAN
AMENDMENT IF IT IS APPROVED.
IN SHORT, I WANT TO SAY I DO BELIEVE IN THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THEY HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ISLAND AND I
WOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU CAN SEE THAT AND WILL APPROVE
THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU.
10:45:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS ITEM THIS EVENING?
GOING ONCE ... GOING TWICE.
OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
OR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:45:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S FOR MR. HUDSON, IF I MAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW DETERMINATIVE THIS IS OR WHATNOT, THERE
HAVE BEEN COMMENTS MADE ABOUT POTENTIAL EVENTS AT THE HOTEL
AND EVENT SPACE.
COULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT?
ARE THERE KNOWN PLANS FOR THAT?
IS THERE A LARGE CAPACITY FOR THAT?
STRIKE THAT.
IT IS A LATE EVENING.
QUESTION WITHDRAWN.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
SORRY.
DISREGARD.
10:46:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
THERE'S BEEN CONFLICTING REINTERPRETATION OF WHAT WAS SAID.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE AND
WHAT -- WITH OR WITHOUT THAT BUILDING, WHAT COULD
POTENTIALLY BY RIGHT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION,
WHAT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED ON THAT SITE TODAY WITHOUT US
MAKING A CHANGE TODAY?
AND THERE'S BEEN COMPARISONS TO THE RITZ-CARLTON ON
BAYSHORE.
IS THAT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION?
10:47:02PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.

I LOOKED UP THE RITZ-CARLTON ON BAYSHORE.
THAT IS DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL 50.
IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE SAME DENSITY THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED
TODAY ON THE SITE.
10:47:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AND OTHER PEOPLE, IF
FOR SOME REASON THIS PROPERTY WAS DEMOLISHED, THEY WOULD NOT
HAVE TO COME BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL TO
BUILD TO THAT DENSITY.
10:47:36PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
IT MAY REQUIRE A REZONING.
10:47:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE LAND
USE.
FOR WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, ITEM NUMBER 1, IF FOR
SOME REASON THIS BUILDING WAS DESTROYED OR WAS DEMOLISHED,
WHOEVER OWNS THAT LAND AT THE TIME COULD GO AND USE THAT
FUTURE LAND USE TO BUILD SOMETHING EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE SEE
IN THE RITZ-CARLTON ON BAYSHORE, BY RIGHT.
10:47:59PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
THAT'S A ZONING QUESTION.
10:48:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FUTURE LAND USE.
FOR THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
10:48:06PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
YES, FUTURE LAND USE WOULD ALLOW THE SAME
DENSITY --
10:48:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KEPT HEARING THE SAME ARGUMENT FROM BOTH
SIDES.
I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD IT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I TRULY
UNDERSTOOD IT BECAUSE I KEPT HEARING FROM THE OTHER SIDE, SO

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT RIGHT.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:23PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DID YOU WANT YOUR SECOND QUESTION?
10:48:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SURE, GO.
10:48:27PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
RESIDENTIAL 50 TODAY WOULD ALLOW 80
DWELLING UNITS, MAXIMUM OF 80 DWELLING UNITS FOR
RESIDENTIAL.
10:48:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
THE PROPOSAL IS HOW MANY DWELLING UNITS?
10:48:40PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
SO THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, IF YOU USE
THE DENSITY CALCULATION, WOULD BE REDUCED FROM 80 TO 56
UNDER THE CMU 35.
HOWEVER, THE CMU 35 ALLOWS THE UTILIZATION OF F.A.R. FOR
RESIDENTIAL, TO CALCULATE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 139,372 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL
USES COULD BE CONSIDERED ON THE SITE UNDER THE CMU 35.
10:49:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT DOESN'T TRANSLATE DIRECTLY TO UNITS,
JUST SQUARE FOOTAGE.
10:49:11PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
SQUARE FOOTAGE.
10:49:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW, AFTER
THIS QUESTION TIME, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR REBUTTAL AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF THIS PARTICULAR

ITEM.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
VERY GOOD.
HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE A
REBUTTAL?
10:49:46PM >> GOOD EVENING.
TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD.
I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME OF MY TIME WITH FRANK.
A LOT OF FATIGUE TONIGHT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY JUST THE HOUR EITHER.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FATIGUE FROM THE FIGHTING.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FATIGUE FROM WHAT IS CLEARLY AN
ACUTE LACK OF TRUST IN THE CITY.
THE CITY HAS A REAL TRUST PROBLEM.
WE LIVE IN A VERY LOW-TRUST, HIGH-REGULATION ENVIRONMENT AND
THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AROUND US REFLECTS THAT.
SO MUCH OF THE OPPOSITION AND THE SUPPORT TO REALLY CAME
DOWN TO CONVERSATIONS REALLY ABOUT TRUST.
YOU HEARD A LOT OF FEAR TONIGHT.
YOU HEARD SOME HOPE TONIGHT, TOO.
NEITHER FEAR NOR HOPE ARE CERTAIN.
I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE YOUR DECISION TONIGHT BASED ON
FEAR OR HOPE.
I THINK YOU NEED TO BASE IT ON CERTAINTIES.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CERTAINTIES.

I THINK THE MIRASOL BUILDING DESERVES A FUTURE.
MADE IT THROUGH A HUNDRED YEARS AND THE GREATEST THREAT IT'S
EVER FACED I THINK IS THE LACK OF TRUST IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SOMEHOW FRANK WHO HAS DONE EVERYTHING HE SAID HE WOULD DO,
ALONG WITH LINDSEY, THE ENTIRE TIME, LAST THREE YEARS OF
COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT IS GOING TO
STOP.
THE MIRASOL DOESN'T HAVE A FUTURE WITHOUT HOTEL USE.
PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE BUILDING BEST KNOW THAT THE ONLY WAY TO
JUSTIFY THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THAT BUILDING IS TO
RESTORE THE ORIGINAL HOTEL USE.
ANOTHER CERTAINTY, THE CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS ALLOW US TO PUT
A LARGE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT BUILDING HAS ZERO LEGAL PROTECTION RIGHT NOW.
AND IT NEEDS A LOT OF HELP.
YOU COULD EASILY PUT, MASSED OUT BY RIGHT, TALKING ABOUT
PERMITS, 50 UNITS.
THOSE UNITS CAN BE FOUR, FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
DO THE MATH.
ANOTHER CERTAINTY, THE STATUS QUO WILL NOT HOLD.
THIS BUILDING WILL NOT STAND AND REMAIN AS AN APARTMENT
COMPLEX.
I WANT YOU TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
THERE IS NO SOLUTION WHERE THIS JUST GOES BACK TO NORMAL AND
WE TAKE OUR LICKS HERE AND IT JUST GOES BACK TO RENTING

UNITS AGAIN.
THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
SO THE DECISION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A MOMENTOUS ONE.
ANOTHER CERTAINTY, IF YOU APPROVE THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
YOU HAVE THE COMPLETE CONTROL AND RESERVE THE CONTROL ON
WHAT ZONING IS.
THAT MEANS WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED.
WHETHER IT IS A 200,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOPPING CENTER LIKE
THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY SPECIOUSLY ASSUMED.
WHAT THE PARKING LOOKS LIKE, SETBACKS LOOK LIKE.
YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL THAT.
THE NOTION THIS IS BEING FOISTED UPON YOU, MASSIVE SEA
CHANGE IN ENTITLEMENTS, TO BELIEVE THAT, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE
THAT YOU'LL ABDICATE YOUR OWN ZONING CAPABILITY WHICH YOU
EXERCISE ONCE, TWICE A MONTH HERE.
I'VE SAID THIS EARLIER AND EMPHASIZE IT AGAIN ON THIS
WITHDRAWAL.
WE CAN'T CONDITION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.
THE WHOLE WAY THIS WORKS IS MESSED UP BECAUSE YOU ARE FORCED
ALL TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
THAT'S WHAT PLANNING STAFF REVIEWED AND PLANNING COMMISSION
REVIEWED.
KIND OF THE EARLY WARNING SIGN.
THAT IS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO THEY ARE SAYING.
YOU BASE YOUR DECISION BASED ON A WORST-CASE SCENARIO I

THINK IS IRRESPONSIBLE BECAUSE IT ABDICATES YOUR ROLE AS THE
HEAD OF THE ZONING AUTHORITY THAT THIS CITY GRANTS.
IF YOU ADVANCE THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TONIGHT TO
A SECOND READING AND OUR ZONING IS DENIED, WE WILL WITHDRAW
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
THAT'S ANOTHER CERTAINTY.
ZERO RISK THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT GETS APPROVED WITHOUT AN
ACCOMPANYING REZONING BECAUSE WE'LL WITHDRAW THAT.
WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THIS OUT.
THANKS.
10:54:00PM >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN.
FRANK CARRIERA.
A LOT HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY.
THIS IS MY FIRST EXPERIENCE.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DAVIS ISLAND.
I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS REALLY BRIEF.
I COULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE.
I HAVE FIVE OR SIX PAGES OF REBUTTALS TO EVERYTHING THAT
EVERYBODY HAS SAID.
THE ONE THING THAT I THINK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IS THAT
WE REALIZE -- LET ME STEP BACK FOR A SECOND.
I HAVE A DAY JOB.
MY DAY JOB IS IN CAPITAL MARKETS.
BEEN DOING THAT 20 YEARS.

THERE'S NO VIABLE SOLUTION AND FINANCEABLE SOLUTION UNLESS
WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS.
SO WHAT I ASK YOU TONIGHT IS TO ALLOW OUR TEAM IN THIS NEXT
STEP TO PRESENT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND THE UNCERTAINTIES AND
THE FEAR WILL BE SQUASHED BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY
WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:55:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:55:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:55:14PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE -- AND
I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT THE PURPOSE.
ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF WANTING TO DO THIS IS TO PRESERVE THE
MIRASOL.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU DID NOT DO THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BEFORE -- I'M SORRY.
WHAT TIME IS IT?
THE COMP PLAN?
10:55:48PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
I'LL TAKE THE FIRST CRACK AND FRANK MAY WANT TO ADD
SOMETHING.
IT'S ABOUT CERTAINTY.
WE'RE WILLING TO SEEK -- WE CAN'T MAKE IT A LANDMARK

OURSELVES.
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION HAS TO DO THAT.
WE CAN MAKE THE APPLICATION.
FRANK AND LINDSEY ARE WILLING TO MAKE THE APPLICATION ONCE
IT HAS BEEN FIXED AND IMPROVED.
IF WE DON'T DO THAT, IF WE WERE TO LANDMARK IT NOW -- IF WE
JUST LANDMARK IT NOW WITHOUT HAVING ANY IMPROVEMENTS, ALL OF
THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO GO BEFORE ANOTHER BOARD
THAT DECIDES WHETHER THEY ARE APPROVABLE OR NOT.
WE'D HAVE TO GET FROM A BODY LIKE THIS THAT WOULD HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF FOLKS TO WEIGH IN ON THEIR OPINIONS
ABOUT HOW EVERY INTRICACY OF THE DESIGN WOULD LOOK.
THAT'S SIMPLY A RISK WE CAN'T TAKE.
IT MIGHT BE DONE EARLIER DEPENDING ON WHETHER HISTORIC
PRESERVATION TAX CREDITS ARE USED, BUT THAT'S THE REASON.
FRANK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
10:56:51PM >> NO.
I THINK YOU COVERED IT.
10:56:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:56:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BUT IF -- SO THE MIRASOL IS ABOUT A HUNDRED
YEARS OLD.
IF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS SPACE, ASSUMING THOSE YOU ARE
GOING BEFORE TO GET THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WOULD KNOW
THAT, RIGHT?
IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE THIS, YOU KNOW, FIGHT AS TO WHAT

SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT OR HOW IT SHOULD LOOK.
IF WE KNOW THE BUILDING IS OLD, IT'S A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND
THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS KNOW OF THE
HISTORIC SPACES IN TAMPA, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF YOU WERE TO
GO THAT ROUTE, IT MAY OR MAY NOT GET THE HISTORIC
DESIGNATION?
I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT PRESERVING, PRESERVING,
PRESERVING.
IF THAT IS THE MAIN FOCUS, WHY NOT GO THAT ROUTE FIRST?
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY GO THIS ROUTE INSTEAD OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION ROUTE FIRST, THEN IF THERE ARE OTHER
CHANGES.
10:58:12PM >> FIRST WOULD BE OBTAINING A LANDMARK DESIGNATION FROM THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WHO YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT AS
MUCH.
IF THEY GRANTED THAT THEN, ANY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING WOULD
HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
THAT'S A RISK THAT THAT GETS DENIED.
THE PROCESS YOU SORT OF SAW UNFOLD TODAY COULD MEAN THE
DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEVER APPROVED BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX TIMES PERPETUALLY BEFORE AN
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, AND THAT IS A HUGE
UNCERTAINTY.
WE DON'T FEEL LIKE WE CAN COMMIT TO SEEKING THAT UNTIL WE
HAVE THE CERTAINTY THAT WE CAN DO THE HOTEL.

THAT'S THE HONEST ANSWER.
WE DON'T HAVE CERTAINTY WHETHER WE CAN DO A HOTEL.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
10:59:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:59:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WOULD WANT TO
FIX THE HOTEL UP AND THEN APPLY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
10:59:13PM >> EXACTLY.
10:59:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO ANY OF THE
WORK TO MAKE IT HISTORIC, TO PRESERVE ITS ACTUAL
HISTORIC-NESS?
10:59:22PM >> WE'D HAVE TO OBTAIN IT BEFORE GETTING A C.O.
WE WOULD DO THE WORK.
THERE IS A CONDITION TO GETTING A CERTIFICATE OF
OCCUPANCY --
10:59:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU WOULDN'T DO IT ACCORDING TO THE ARC,
IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOOPS OF DOING IT
TO ACTUALLY RESTORE IT HISTORICALLY.
10:59:37PM >> WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET INTERIOR STANDARDS TO BE A
LANDMARK, SO WE DO HAVE STANDARDS TO MEET, OF COURSE, TO
KEEP IT AS A LANDMARK.
10:59:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT THROUGH THE
ARC.
10:59:46PM >> NO.
10:59:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. HUDSON, WHAT I HEAR YOU, WHICH I THINK

I'M MISSING, DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY?
IF YOU WERE TO SEEK HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, THE OWNER WOULD
END UP HAVING A PROPERTY, IF YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THIS
RECLASSIFIED THAT WOULD NOT BE FINANCIALLY VIABLE TO REPAIR
TO THAT HISTORICAL STANDARD, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING?
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NO -- IF YOU SOUGHT HISTORICAL
PRESERVATION NOW AND WE STILL DENIED A HOTEL APPLICATION,
THE OWNER WOULD BE WITH A PROPERTY THAT HE COULD NOT
FINANCIALLY VIABLY RENOVATE OR MAINTAIN IN THAT STANCE,
CORRECT?
11:00:32PM >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
BEFORE WE RESTRICT -- MAKING A PROPERTY A LANDMARK IS A HUGE
RESTRICTION.
IT MEANS YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO TEAR IT DOWN.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO UNLESS WE HAVE
THE CERTAINTY THAT WE CAN DO THE HOTEL USE.
11:00:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS MISSING IN THE REBUTTAL
IS THAT PART.
11:00:52PM >> THAT IS THE KEY PART.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T DO A HOTEL.
ONLY THE HOTEL USE JUSTIFIES THE INVESTMENT.
11:01:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THE FINANCIAL THING IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.
11:01:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:01:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I KEPT HEARING TAMPA GENERAL, TAMPA GENERAL.

TAMPA GENERAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONING.
TAMPA GENERAL WHEN THEY HAD THE REZONING TO BUILD, CAME HERE
AND THEY HAD NO ONE SPEAK.
YOU KNOW WHY?
TAMPA GENERAL HAS NO NEIGHBORS ON THAT SIDE, NOT ONE
NEIGHBOR IS ON THAT NORTHERN SIDE WHERE THE BUILDING IS
GOING UP.
I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR TAMPA GENERAL.
JUST WHAT I KNOW AND HEARD.
THE SECOND ONE IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HISTORICAL PRESERVATION,
I REMEMBER DOING SOME HISTORICAL STUFF HERE YEARS BACK IN
HYDE PARK.
AND WHEN SOMETHING CAME THAT WAS OUT OF LINE, PUT THAT
STRUCTURE BACK TO HISTORICAL, HAD TO BE PUT BACK JUST LIKE
IT WAS, NOT ONE INCH GREATER.
IF IT DID HAVE A PORTE-COCHERE, THE PHOTOGRAPH SHOWED A
PORTE-COCHERE, THEN YOU HAD TO BUILD THE PORTE-COCHERE
BEFORE YOU APPLIED FOR THE CERTIFICATION.
I'M CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.
I LOOK AT THIS, I TELL MYSELF, WHAT AM I DOING.
ONE SIDE SAYS EXISTING USE, RESIDENTIAL, CMU RESIDENTIAL,
THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE OTHER PART, IT SAYS RESIDENTIAL
UNITS, 58 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 80, AND CMU, 109.
THEN I GET TO THE FLOOR RATIO, 57,000 -- 141,134 FEET.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE PRESENTATION.

I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION WILL BE
DONE NO MATTER WHAT I DO AFTER HEARING ALL THE COMMENTS.
THAT'S JUST ME FROM HEARING.
I'M NOT AN ANALYST, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT LESS THAN 3% OF
THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE IN 31 YEARS DID THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, THE CITY, BOTH DO THE SAME THING FOR REJECTION,
NOT APPROVAL.
MAYBE 40% ONE OR THE OTHER AND THE OTHER PERCENTAGE BOTH
TOGETHER.
AND THIS IS ONE THAT THEY BOTH TOGETHER ON.
I'M NOT HERE TO CAST ANY STARS OR SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYBODY
OR DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO.
EACH ONE MAKE AN INVESTMENT, DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS,
AUTOMOBILE, CAR, SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS
ARE WHEN THEY MAKE AN ERROR.
MAYBE THIS WAS AN ERROR.
I'M NOT SAYING IT IS.
I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE.
I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT EITHER SIDE WANTS OR DOESN'T
WANT.
MY RESPONSIBILITY IS MAKE MY CHOICE, WHAT I SEE
BLACK-AND-WHITE.
11:03:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE AT QUESTIONS NOW.
WE CAN PONTIFICATE AFTER WE CLOSE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:03:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT,
WHICH IS, MR. HUDSON, WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEIR
FINDING I GUESS, I MEAN, YOU RESPONDED THROUGHOUT NUMEROUS
REMARKS, BUT SUCCINCTLY AND NARROWLY TAILORED TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION, HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT,
IN TERMS OF CONVINCING US HE'S NOT TO BE WEIGHED.
11:04:22PM >> IT SHOULD BE WEIGHED.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULD IGNORE IT.
YOU SHOULDN'T IGNORE THE NEIGHBORS EITHER.
YOU ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
YOU HAVE THE OBLIGATION UNDER THE CHARTER TO SET POLICY.
WHEN YOU GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM STAFF AND FROM
NEIGHBORS, STAFF, WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMP PLAN, THE
PLANNING COMMISSION, AND YOUR PLANNING STAFF ANALYZES THINGS
BASED ON THE MAXIMUM SCENARIO.
AS THE OPPONENTS, THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
BUT IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE THAT IF YOU VOTE YES ON THIS ITEM
THAT 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT ARE AUTOMATICALLY
APPROVED ON THE SITE.
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
IT IS ALSO NOT TRUE THAT ALL CG USES ARE ALLOWED LIKE THAT.
ALSO NOT TRUE.
THE SITE IS RM 35.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS, NOTHING CHANGES IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU
CAN DO ON THE SITE.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION LIKE
EVERYTHING YOU HEARD, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BEAR IN
MIND THAT THE STRUCTURE OF THE SYSTEM, WHEN IT COMES TO COMP
PLAN IS ONLY PRESENTING THE MAXIMUM, AS IF YOU ALL HAVE NO
ROLE AT ALL IN DETERMINING HOW THOSE POTENTIAL RIGHTS ARE
USED.
IT'S A MENU.
IT'S NOT AN ORDER.
THERE IS A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THINGS AND
REALLY CRITICAL THAT YOU ALL BEAR THAT IN MIND IN YOUR VOTE.
11:05:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:05:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYBODY LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:06:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS WAS A LONG NIGHT AND THIS WAS VERY
INTERESTING.
I REALLY WISH THAT OUR APPROVAL OF THIS WOULD SAVE THIS
BUILDING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BECAUSE I THINK SOMEBODY

SAID SOMETHING EARLIER TONIGHT THAT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME
IS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL SAVING THIS BUILDING.
WE JUST DON'T DO IT.
YOU CAN TEAR IT DOWN TOMORROW.
YOU COULD TEAR IT DOWN AFTER THE CMU.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROTECTS IT.
IF YOU HAD GOTTEN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, DIFFERENT STORY,
BUT YOU DIDN'T.
SO I CAN'T APPROVE THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL
HAPPEN.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
TO ME, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PART IS -- I WOULD VENTURE
TO GUESS WE ALL WANT TO RESTORE THIS.
BUT THERE IS NO HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
THIS CAN BE TORN DOWN TOMORROW.
AND NOTHING WE DO HERE TONIGHT WILL CHANGE THAT.
11:07:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:07:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I LOVE THE
BUILDING.
I REMEMBER THIS BUILDING IN LIKE THE '80s OR '90s WHEN
EVERYBODY WANTED TO LIVE IN IT.
THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN IT, THEY WOULD LIVE THERE FOR YEARS
AND WHEN A BETTER UNIT WOULD OPEN, THEY WOULD MOVE.
THE VIEW FROM THE BACK, GOT TO SEE FROM THE HOUSES JUST NOW
BUT THE VIEW FROM THE BACK IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL

VIEWS IN TAMPA.
IT'S WHERE YOU CAN SHOW OFF TAMPA HOW REALLY BEAUTIFUL IT
IS.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, AND I THINK IT IS THE DUTY OF
THE APPLICANT -- THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A PROCESS THAT
TAKES YEARS.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH UPDATING IT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S TAKEN TWO OR THREE YEARS ALREADY.
LOTS AND LOTS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME OUT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION GOES TO GREAT LENGTHS TO LISTEN TO
THE PUBLIC, TRY TO NEGOTIATE, FIND COMPROMISE.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE
HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT JUST SOME SIMPLE DOCUMENT
THAT'S STANDING IN THE WAY OF A DEVELOPER.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BUILT OVER YEARS OF PLANNING BY THE
PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY COUNCIL AND PLANNING
COMMISSION HAVE TO VOTE ON IT, BUT WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF
COMMUNITY INPUT FROM DEVELOPERS, INTERESTED PARTIES, AND
NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHERS.
IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT, KIND OF A SACRED DOCUMENT
THAT WE SHOULD NOT JUST EASILY CHANGE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, THEN IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT
TO GET THE PUBLIC TO SUPPORT IT.
I'M REALLY OFFENDED BY THE COMMENT THAT THE LACK OF TRUST IS

ON THE CITY.
THE LACK OF TRUST IS NOT ON THE CITY.
IT'S ON THE APPLICANT.
THEY DON'T TRUST THE APPLICANT, IT'S NOT THE CITY.
I'M NOT BLAMING THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT.
SOMEHOW YOUR TEAM FAILED.
IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS COMING IN, YOU
GUYS SEE THE QUASI-BOX, IF YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS,
STOP THE PROCESS, BACK UP, TALK TO THE PUBLIC, TRY TO GET
PUBLIC APPROVAL.
THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPERS DO.
THIS COUNCIL APPROVES 99% OF PROJECTS THAT GO THROUGH.
THE FOR YOU THAT WE DON'T APPROVE, WE DON'T LIKE NOT
APPROVING THEM.
AND WE GET CRITICIZED AS IF WE TURN DOWN A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT WE REALLY DON'T.
THE BUSINESS JOURNAL HAS CRITICIZED IN THE PAST WHEN WE GO
AGAINST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR IF WE GO AGAINST THE
PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS VERY, VERY PRODEVELOPMENT.
I'M SHOCKED THAT THEY VOTED AGAINST THIS.
THE STAFF ARGUED AGAINST IT.
NOW WE'LL PROBABLY GET CRITICIZED IF WE VOTE AGAINST IT,
WE'LL GET CRITICIZED IF WE VOTED WITH THE STAFF AND WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY BIG DEVELOPMENTS, IMPORTANT
DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE APPROVE WITH THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
CHANGES BECAUSE THE TEAM THAT THE OWNER HIRED DID A GREAT
JOB OF WINNING OVER THE PUBLIC.
IT'S NOT OUR DUTY TO WIN OVER THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS NOT OUR REQUEST.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE YEARS OF NEGOTIATION WITH THE
PUBLIC.
THE APPLICANT IS DOING THAT.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE VINOY, AS I RECALL, EARLY '90s,
THERE WAS A HUGE INVESTMENT, INDONESIAN INVESTORS, OTHERS
WERE INVOLVED.
THE NEXT OWNER, I THINK MAYBE SOMEBODY HERE REMEMBERS, IT
WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE HOTEL AND OTHERS, A BIG DELTA
BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT AND NEXT INVESTMENT.
INVESTING IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS EXPENSIVE AND A LOT OF
TIMES THE FIRST INVESTOR LOSES MONEY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEEP POCKETS AND A LONG HORIZON.
I LOVE THIS BUILDING.
I WOULD LOVE TO VOTE FOR THIS.
I THINK THAT THE OWNERS IN EARNEST ARE TRYING TO DO
SOMETHING RIGHT.
ON A LEGISLATIVE MANNER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE
CONSULTANTS DIDN'T STOP AND SAY THE PUBLIC IS AGAINST US AND
WHY DON'T WE STOP AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND FIND OUT WHAT

THEY WANT.
WHEN A DEVELOPER SAYS WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS,
LET'S JUST ROLL FORWARD, THAT'S THE WRONG ATTITUDE.
11:11:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:11:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WISH THAT THE MIRASOL WOULD HAVE STAYED A HOTEL SINCE THE
BEGINNING BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SIMPLE HOTEL
RESTORATION.
BUT IT DIDN'T.
IT BECAME RESIDENTIAL AND THEN WHEN THE ZONING
CLASSIFICATIONS CAME IN, IT WAS RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY.
SOMEONE ASKED A QUESTION, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU LIVED
NEXT TO THIS?
ME, I WOULD BE WALKING TO THE COFFEE SHOP EVERY DAY.
I WOULD ENJOY IT.
HOWEVER -- HOWEVER, YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T EXPECT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OR TWO NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD
HAVE OBJECTED TO THIS, BUT IT IS SUCH A LARGE AMOUNT OF
INDIVIDUALS.
IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR.
I WASN'T EXPECTING SIX HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT, NUMBER ONE.
IN REGARDS TO TAKING IT FROM THE R 50 TO THE CMU 35, THE
INTENSITY IS SIGNIFICANT.
IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE HOTEL RESTORATION.

THERE IS A LOT MORE TO IT.
THERE IS A LOT MORE YOU CAN DO WITH THAT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS
YOU TO.
AND THEN THE FACT THAT IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DENIAL FROM THE
PLANNING COMMISSION -- UNANIMOUS, NOT EVEN ONE VOTE GOING
THE OTHER WAY, THAT IS CONCERNING BECAUSE IT CAN BE A VERY
FLEXIBLE -- IT CAN BE A FLEXIBLE BOARD.
BUT UNANIMOUS IS ONE THING.
THEN THE CITY.
I MEAN, THERE ARE TOO MANY THINGS THAT I CAN'T BRING MYSELF
TO A YES ON THIS.
THANKS.
11:12:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
11:12:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, NO MORE.
11:12:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:13:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO THROW SOME THINGS OUT, I'M THINKING
THROUGH THIS IN MY HEAD TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SO FAR POTENTIALLY SAID NO TO
THIS.
SOME THINGS TO THROW OUT.
AGAIN, I'M WORKING THIS THROUGH, SO TO SPEAK.
RIGHT NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
DO 80 DWELLING UNITS ON THIS, CORRECT?
11:13:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S CLOSED.
11:13:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL STATE THAT AS MY UNDERSTANDING.

WITH THIS COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THE
PRESENTATION OF THE IDEA THAT THIS IS A WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE
SOME MOVEMENT OR SOME DISCRETION ON THE PRESERVATION OF THE
HOTEL, THAT IS, WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN, WE'RE BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
WE HAVE A REZONING AFTER THIS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SOME
DISCRETION.
I'M WORKING THIS STUFF IN MY HEAD --
11:13:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN MY PONTIFICATION, I'LL RESPOND TO THAT.
11:14:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M PUTTING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I'M WORKING
THROUGH THIS, JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT, WHICH IS, THIS IS A
WAY IN WHICH WE CAN BALANCE OUT HAVING A LOT OF LIMITATIONS,
RESTRICTIONS, ET CETERA, POTENTIALLY.
AGAIN, I'M -- BY THE WAY, A LOT OF GOOD POINTS.
I ASKED MR. HUDSON THE ISSUE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
A REASON, RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
WEIGHS ON ME AS WELL.
THESE ARE OTHER POINTS, AGAIN, I WANT TO BRING UP TO
DISCUSS.
CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OR WHOEVER.
11:14:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL GO THE ROUNDS.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
11:14:33PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
I'M STILL KIND OF WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THIS, TOO.
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT.

I THINK ONE OF US ALREADY SAID IT.
I DEFINITELY THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID THAT OUR
PLANNING COMMISSION, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND OUR
PLANNING DEPARTMENT VOTED AGAINST THIS.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE ALL HAVE OUR EXPERTISE AND WE PLAY
OUR PARTS IN MAKING SURE THE CITY IS RUN SMOOTHLY AND
PLANNED SMOOTHLY.
TO HEAR THAT THOSE WHO WE HAVE EITHER APPOINTED OR WHOSE
EXPERTISE HAS SAID NO, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD
DEFINITELY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
ALSO, AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HEARING TONIGHT A LOT ABOUT WE NEED
TO PRESERVE THIS PIECE OF HISTORY.
THIS HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD SPACE, AND YET AS I'M LISTENING, TO
ME, I'M NOT SURE IF THE WILL OR THE WANT TO DO THE WORK TO
MAKE THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS THERE.
EVEN JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THAT
PROCESS WOULD BE TOO MUCH.
BUT IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GO THE EXTRA ROUTE TO PRESERVE
SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW IT HAS A CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, GOING
THROUGH THAT PROCESS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE SOMETHING LIKE
END ALL, BE ALL.
WE NEED TO PRESERVE THIS OR DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND I
DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S THERE.
ALSO, TO HEAR FROM SOMEONE THAT LIVES THERE THAT THE -- YOU
HAVE PEOPLE LIVING THERE NOW.

IF THE INTEREST IS TO PRESERVE THE SPACE, WHY IS THAT NOT
HAPPENING? I THINK ALSO, AGAIN, THERE ARE NO PROTECTIONS.
IT COULD BE TORN DOWN TOMORROW.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
I'M NOT SAYING YES OR A NO, IT'S JUST MY INITIAL THOUGHTS
I'M HAVING BASED OFF OF CONVERSATION AND COMMENTS.
11:16:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT SEVEN PEOPLE CAN LISTEN TO ARGUMENTS
AND HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS.
I HEARD SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
I HEARD COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SOMEONE ELSE TALK ABOUT THE
PUBLIC.
BUT I HEARD A SPLIT CROWD.
I HEARD 50-50.
I DID NOT HEAR AN OVERWHELMING PUBLIC OUTCRY ONE WAY OR THE
OTHER.
THERE WERE HEARTFELT SENTIMENTS, ESPECIALLY FROM PEOPLE THAT
LIVED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
LOUD OBJECTION, THE PEOPLE ON THOSE TWO STREETS.
I KNOW MY IN-BOX IS FILLED WITH YESES AND NOES AS WELL AS
THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A COMPELLING ARGUMENT.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE VINOY, AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT
ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SAVED.
I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT

WEREN'T SAVED.
THOSE OF YOU OLD ENOUGH IN DOWNTOWN ST. PETERSBURG, WE HAD
THE SERENA HOTEL IN 1992 THAT WAS DEMOLISHED.
WE HAD THE MAAS BROTHERS BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA THAT WAS
DEMOLISHED THROUGH NEGLECT AND DECAY.
I THINK IN A VERY SIMILAR TYPE OF SITUATION WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT TODAY, IT WASN'T THAT THE BUILDING COULDN'T BE SAVED
BUT THE ECONOMICS OF THE BUILDING PREVENTED IT FROM BEING
SAVED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHAMPION TO GO IN THERE AND
DO THAT.
THE LYKES BROTHERS BUILDING WE LOST.
WE LOST THESE AMAZING, HISTORICAL STRUCTURES.
THAT IS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
THAT IF THIS COUNCIL IGNORES THE FACT, ECONOMIC VIABILITY IS
ECONOMIC VIABILITY.
YOU CAN EITHER MAKE IT WORK IN REFERENCE TO THE QUESTION
ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, IT'S NOT AT ANY COST.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT A PROPERTY OWNER TO JUST THROW BUCKETS AND
BUCKETS OF MONEY AT SOMETHING.
SO IF THEY FOUND A HOOK TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THIS AND STILL
MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, WHICH IS THE HOTEL APPLICATION,
THE HOTEL USE, THAT GIVES THEM THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY TO
SAVE THIS PROPERTY.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD AND DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING REFUTING
THIS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ARGUED THAT THIS IS NOT

ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AS AN APARTMENT BUILDING.
IF IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AS AN APARTMENT BUILDING, IT
IS GOING TO BE TORN DOWN.
THAT WAS VERY CLEAR IN ALL THE TESTIMONY WE HEARD TONIGHT.
NOBODY OPPOSED THAT FROM BOTH SIDES.
THE SACRIFICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE CITY, AND I
THINK IT WILL BE A SAD DAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IF THIS
COUNCIL ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT I LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND IT WAS POINTED OUT, THE
PROXIMITY OF THE GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD HOTELS, YOU LOOK IN
BEVERLY HILLS, BEAUTIFUL HOTEL, PALM BEACH, THE GROVE PARK
INN IN ASHEVILLE.
BEAUTIFUL HOTELS RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THINK IT WAS LINDA SAUL-SENA TALKED ABOUT THIS URBAN
OASIS.
DAVIS ISLAND IS THIS REALLY ECLECTIC -- I LOVE DAVIS
ISLANDS.
I STARE AT IT EVERY MORNING.
I LIVE ACROSS THE WAY.
I DON'T LIVE THERE.
I'M WALKING DANCE FROM IT.
YOU HAVE THE FUNKY, MIXED USE KIND OF USES ON THIS ISLAND
AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE CHARM IS.
IF IT WAS ALL RESIDENTIAL AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY
COMMERCIAL, NOBODY WOULD WANT TO LIVE THERE.

MY GOD, YOU GUYS WOULD GET FLOODED EVERY TEN YEARS.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS TO DO WHICH MAKES IT
REALLY AN ATTRACTIVE AND VERY UNIQUE AND VERY DISTINCTIVE
TAMPA PLACE TO BE.
OF COURSE, VERY DISTINCTIVE IN TAMPA, NOBODY CAN LOOK AT THE
BUILDING AND NOT LOOK AT THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURALLY AND
SAY, INSTANTLY IDENTIFY THAT THAT'S A TAMPA BUILDING.
IT YEARNS OF WHAT TAMPA IS AND WAS DURING THE FLORIDA LAND
BOOM, AND RUNNING THE RISK, I THINK THE RISK OF LOSING THIS
ARCHITECTURAL GEM AND THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT, THAT'S SOMETHING
WE'VE MISSED AS WELL.
WE ALSO ARE NOT GOING TO -- I'M A BIG NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE.
I RAN ON A PLATFORM, SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
BUT I ALSO DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PROPOSAL WILL INCREASE
DENSITY.
WE'RE NOT ADDING PEOPLE TO SCHOOLS.
IN SOUTH TAMPA, OUR SCHOOLS ARE FULL.
THEY ARE FULL.
WE CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE.
WE SAW THE OTHER COMPETENT EVIDENCE ABOUT THE DRIVING ISSUE.
THAT GENTLEMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS BACKGROUND WAS, I
FOUND HIS TESTIMONY -- OF COURSE, WE ALL LIKE TO RECONFIRM
WHAT OUR NOTIONS ARE, BUT HE FELT LIKE WHAT HE SAID
RECONFIRMED WHAT I THOUGHT ALREADY ABOUT THE DRIVING
PATTERNS OF THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

BUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, WE CAN'T TURN TAMPA INTO HUNDRED
PERCENT RESIDENTIAL CITY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE JOBS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK.
WE HAVE TO HAVE PAYCHECKS.
I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, HOTELS, THAT IS BIG BUSINESS FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
HOTEL TAXES PAY FOR A LOT OF CRAP THAT YOU GUYS DON'T WANT
TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES FOR.
JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T FORGET THAT.
IT REALLY IS A RELATIVELY CLEAN INDUSTRY.
CHARLIE TALKED ABOUT THE HOSPITAL NOT TALKING, BUT I ALSO
KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT HOSPITALS NEED HOTELS.
I KNOW WE'VE ALL HAD FAMILY MEMBERS WHERE WE HAD TO TRAVEL
WHERE WE'VE HAD PATIENTS IN CRITICAL CONDITION.
MY GRANDMOTHER, YOU HAVE TO STAY IN A HOSPITAL, YOU WANT A
HOTEL CLOSE TO A HOSPITAL.
IT'S IMPORTANT.
I LOVE LIVING IN A MIXED CITY.
I LIVE IN HYDE PARK.
I LOVE BEING ABLE TO WALK TO THINGS.
I WOULDN'T LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE I CAN WALK OUT OF MY
HOUSE AND TURN RIGHT AND GO TO SOMEPLACE INTERESTING.
I CAN TURN LEFT AND GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE.

WALK DOWN THE STREET AND GO TO A MOVIE THEATER.
WHEN MY FAMILY COMES TO TOWN AND I DON'T LIKE THEM, I CAN
PUT THEM IN A HOTEL.
PUT ME IN THE HOTEL.
I KNOW.
I GOT IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:22:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST WANT TO REMIND THIS IS THE COMP PLAN
AMENDMENT.
THIS IS NOT US TRYING TO SAVE SOMEBODY FROM DOING STUFF.
TO ANSWER MR. VIERA'S QUESTION, GOING TO CMU 35 TO SEE WHAT
COULD HAPPEN, IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP TO
SEE WHAT COULD BE.
OUR JOB IS TO LOOK AND SEE, IS CMU 35 APPROPRIATE FOR THIS
LOCATION?
LIKE, IS IT RIGHT?
I HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY MIX, BUT OWE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE
NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
THE FACT THAT YOU GOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T SEE THE
ADDED DENSITY AS A BONUS, AND THEN I AGREE A LOT WITH WHAT
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID.
THE SAD PART OF THIS IS THAT IT FAILED AS A HOTEL AFTER LIKE
THREE YEARS.
BUT IT SUCCEEDED AS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR 75.

SO IT IS RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS NOT A HOTEL.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BUILT AS A HOTEL, BUT IT'S NOT A HOTEL.
YOU'RE CREATING A WHOLE NEW USE.
I'M SORRY THAT THE LAND BUST HAPPENED, BUT THAT IS NOT THE
WAY THIS WAS DEVELOPED.
EVEN THOUGH THE ISLAND MAY HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED A CERTAIN
WAY, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WAS BUILT.
LOOK AT HARBOUR ISLAND, IT WAS BUILT TO BE SUPER HIGH
DENSITY.
THAT DIDN'T PAN OUT EITHER BECAUSE OF ANOTHER BUST.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
WE'RE DOING HERE.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR A RESPONSE.
WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SAVING PEOPLE FROM WHAT THEY
BOUGHT.
I'M SORRY, IF THEY BOUGHT IT, THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN IT.
IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAINTAIN IT -- IF YOU DON'T WANT TO
GO FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO
MAINTAIN, THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO AS A
HOTEL.
THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH.
IT'S NOT QUITE -- I THINK I WOULD BE -- NO.
IT'S TOO INTENSE FOR THIS AREA BECAUSE OF WHAT IT COULD BE.
YOU'RE RIGHT.

THEY COULD TEAR IT DOWN TOMORROW.
AND THEY COULD BUILD A WHOLE RITZ-CARLTON.
THAT'S TOTALLY TRUE.
BUT IF WE GIVE IT THE CMU 35, THEY COULD TEAR IT DOWN AND
BUILD SOMETHING TWICE THAT SIZE.
11:25:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
11:25:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THEY COULD.
I'M NOT MAKING A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I KNOW MR. CARLSON IS NEXT.
I'M JUST SAYING, YES, THEY CAN BUILD.
11:26:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE, I'LL SAY I'M SURPRISED BECAUSE WE'RE
USUALLY SIMPATICO ON THESE.
TALKING ABOUT URBAN VILLAGE, COMPATIBILITY, MIXED USE.
THIS SHOULD RING SO TRUE TO YOU AND YOUR VALUES.
11:26:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT SHOULD, BUT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING.
AND WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGREES THAT IT'S NOT THE
RIGHT THING, IT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING.
IT IS NOT THE RIGHT DENSITY FOR THIS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL
COMMUNITY.
11:26:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
[ LAUGHTER ]
AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE INTERESTING THINGS THAT THIS IS
SUCH AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THE DAVIS ISLANDS FROM THE URBAN NATURE
OF THE AREA.

IT'S PART OF OUR CORE.
LOVE YA.
I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT.
11:27:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS SURROUNDED BY THE LEAST DENSE LAND
USE WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
11:27:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CATTY-CORNER TO THIS IS THE EXACT SAME
LAND USE.
LIKE FOUR BLOCKS AWAY.
AND A MAJOR REGIONAL HOSPITAL WITH HIGH INTENSITY
DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE EXAGGERATION OF WHAT CAN BE BUILT
AND YOU CANNOT LOSE SIGHT OF THIS COUNCIL CONTROL ZONING.
WITH THE ZONING, AND I THINK IT WAS VERY GENEROUS THAT THE
APPLICANT CAME THROUGH AND SAID IF WE PASS THIS THROUGH THIS
TIME, WE WILL -- WE'LL CONTROL WHAT GETS BUILT HERE ON
ZONING.
WE'LL HAVE THAT BITE OF THE APPLE.
WE'LL GET A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.
ALREADY COMMITTED ON THE RECORD, SWORN TESTIMONY THAT THEY
WILL RESCIND THIS APPROVAL.
11:27:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE.
THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE AND THEY'LL GO TO FLUEDRA.
NO.
11:27:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE WOULD RESCIND IT TONIGHT.

11:28:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
THIS IS WHY I DON'T LIKE LAND USE AND COMP PLAN ON THE SAME
NIGHT.
REZONINGS AND COMP PLANS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ON THE SAME
NIGHT.
COMP PLANS REALLY NEED TO BE DEBATED AND DISCUSSED.
11:28:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S PART OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, TOO.
WE SHOULD NOT KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A HOTEL.
WE SHOULD NOT KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR IT.
IF YOU JUST LOOKED AT CMU 35 BY ITSELF AND LOOKED AT WHAT
THEY CAN DO WITH THAT, AND THERE'S NO HISTORIC PRESERVATION
ON IT, SO THAT MEANS THEY COULD TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING, IF
WE LOOKED AT THAT BY ITSELF WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY WOULD
APPLY FOR, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T APPROVE THIS.
ALSO, THERE IS A DIFFERENT TEST.
THIS IS LEGISLATIVE.
THAT IS QUASI-JUDICIAL IN CODE.
WHEN WE'RE DOING QUASI-JUDICIAL CHANGING THE CODE, IT'S A
DIFFERENT THING.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF A THOUSAND PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR OR
AGAINST SOMETHING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COUNT HEADS, BUT WITH SO MANY E-MAILS AND
SO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE, WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT THE APPLICANT
DID NOT ENGAGE THE PUBLIC IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY.
THE FIRST THING THAT YOU SHOULD DO IS GO MEET, WHATEVER YOUR

PROJECT IS, GO MEET WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND AND TALK WITH
THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE AND TRY TO WORK
OUT -- CAN WE HAVE THEM REMOVED PLEASE?
11:29:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO MORE TALKING.
I DON'T CARE WHICH SIDE YOU ARE ON.
EVEN IF YOU AGREE WITH ME AND THINK I AM THE BEST CHAIR IN
THE WORLD --
11:29:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT'S DISRESPECTFUL FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THE
APPLICANT'S CONSULTANTS TO DO THAT, FRANKLY.
11:29:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE SIDE.
11:29:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOUR TEAM DID NOT ENGAGE THE PUBLIC
CORRECTLY, YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME US FOR VOTING THE WAY WE
THINK WE NEED TO VOTE.
IF YOU ALL HAD GONE DOOR TO DOOR AND TALKED TO THE PUBLIC
AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEY WANT, THE PEOPLE THAT LAUGH LIKE
THAT ARE THE DEVELOPERS WHO DON'T CARE AT ALL ABOUT WHAT THE
PUBLIC THINKS.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU END UP IN TROUBLE.
YOU END UP EITHER LOSING MONEY OR HAVING TO COME BACK HERE.
IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE PUBLIC'S RESPONSIBILITY
TO DO THAT.
IF YOU GUYS CARED ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU WOULD
HAVE ASKED FOR IT ALREADY.
YOU WOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THAT AND WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING

CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RETURN TIME IS IF WE TURN THIS DOWN
TONIGHT, BUT WHAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD DO NOW IS STAND UP
AND SAY -- CAN'T TALK NOW, BUT AFTER WE VOTE, WHATEVER THE
ANSWER IS, IF IT'S NO, WHAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD SAY, LOOK,
I'M COMMITTED TO GO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC FOR HOWEVER LONG IT
TAKES AND COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY, VERY
CONTROVERSIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAD NO CONTROVERSY
BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T HAVE AN ATTITUDE LIKE THAT.
11:31:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL NUMBERS, FROM
THE EXISTING TO THE R 50, IT'S ABOUT 70.
FROM 70 TO 141 IS DOUBLE.
FROM R 50 TO CMU 35, IT DOUBLES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
WHAT AM I TO THINK?
I'M LEFT WITH NOTHING.
11:31:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
11:31:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
11:31:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION DENYING TA/CPA 24-18.
11:31:44PM >> SECOND.
11:31:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASED ON THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE OF THE DENIAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE
UNANIMOUS DENIAL PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, AND BOTH

PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF REPORTS.
11:32:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:32:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NAY.
11:32:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:32:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:32:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:32:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:32:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:32:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NAY.
11:32:26PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND CLENDENIN
VOTING NO.
11:32:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HAVE A TEN-MINUTE BREAK.
IT IS 11:34.
ACTUALLY LET'S COME BACK AT 11:55.
[RECESS]
11:56:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:56:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
11:56:22PM >> MANISCALCO?
HURTAK?
11:56:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
11:56:24PM >> YOUNG?
VIERA?
CARLSON?

11:56:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
11:56:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
11:56:28PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:56:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IT IS NOT MORNING YET.
WE STILL HAVE FOUR MINUTES OF EVENING.
IT'S STILL GOOD EVENING.
MR. CHRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK.
11:56:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
GETTING BACK TO OUR AGENDA HERE RELATING TO AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 2, NO FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED ON THIS PARTICULAR
ITEM PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-150, LETTER D OF THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THE TITLE OF ITEM D IS WITHDRAWAL OF ZONING APPLICATION WHEN
RELATED TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
A REZONING APPLICATION THAT IS CONTINGENT ON A REQUEST TO
AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHALL BE DEEMED WITHDRAWN AND
NO FURTHER EFFECT WHERE THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL, NO FURTHER
PROCEEDING OF ACTION BY SHALL BE REQUIRED.
11:57:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 2?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
STAFF, ITEM NUMBER 3. WE ARE GOING TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHY DO WANT WE DO THE SWEARING IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TONIGHT TO TESTIFY ON THE REMAINING
BUSINESS, STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN BY THE
CLERK
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:57:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
PROCEED.
11:57:52PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, REZ 25-90, REQUEST TO REZONE 2539 WEST
CHERRY STREET FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED
USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:58:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
11:58:23PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
GOOD EVENING.
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I WAS SWORN IN.
OUR FIRST REZONING CASE TONIGHT IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA

PLANNING DISTRICT AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN
VILLAGE.
IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE E.
THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY
RESIDENTIAL WITH SINGLE-FAMILY AND SEMI DETACHED HOMES IN
THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THIS IS WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR REFERENCE, AND IT
IS ABOUT A BLOCK WEST OF NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL 20.
THAT SURROUNDS THE SUBJECT SITE ON ALL PROPERTIES.
THIS HERE IS THE PUBLIC, SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION.
AGAIN, WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY.
WE DO HAVE CC-35 ALONG NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS
PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED WITH FEW SEMI
DETACHED TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE.
APPLICANT ENTERED INTO A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT FOR ONE
ADDITIONAL UNIT.
THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER
THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS 20 DWELLING UNITS
PER ACRE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE

WHICH ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN AND DENSITIES
THAT SUPPORT TRANSIT USE.
THE DESIGN MEETS THESE POLICIES.
THE UNIT ENTRANCES ARE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
OVERALL, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST
CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:00:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, YES, SIR.
12:00:21AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
WITH THIS PARTICULAR REZONING REQUEST, WE'LL START WITH AN
AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST CHERRY STREET.
IT IS LOCATED ON A BLOCK THAT IS TO THE EAST OF NORTH
TAMPANIA AVENUE AND WEST OF NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
ZONING SURROUNDING THE SITE TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND
WEST IS RM 16.
THERE IS A MIX OF USES IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND SEMI DETACHED USES TO THE NORTH,
EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A PARKING LOT THAT IS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHICH IS

LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE WEST TAMPA
OVERLAY DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
ALSO, COUNCIL, THIS SITE MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU AS IT WAS
BEFORE YOU IN 2024 REQUESTING PD REZONING WITH A BONUS
PROVISION AGREEMENT.
IT IS BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AS THE APPLICANT IS
PROPOSING STRUCTURAL DWELLING REDESIGN, WHICH IS RESULTING
IN A REDUCTION TO THE REAR AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS.
IT ALSO STILL REQUIRES A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT TO ALLOW
FOR TWO UNITS.
WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN.
THE SITE PLAN HERE SHOWS THE SITE THAT IS APPROXIMATELY
4,769 SQUARE FEET IN AREA WHERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING
THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED DWELLING
UNITS.
THE PD PLAN PROPOSES A TWO UNIT, THREE-STORY STRUCTURE.
EACH UNIT PROVIDES A TWO-CAR GARAGE, PROVIDING REAR ENTRY
ACCESS OFF THE 14-FOOT ALLEYWAY.
THERE IS A COVERED ENTRYWAY FOR EACH UNIT WITH
THREE-FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALKS ENTERING OUT ONTO AN EXISTING
SIDEWALK THAT RUNS EAST TO WEST ON WEST CHERRY STREET.
THE SETBACK REDUCTIONS PROPOSED THROUGH THIS PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT REZONING APPLICATION INCLUDE A REDUCTION TO THE

REAR YARD FROM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 37 FEET NOW PROPOSED TO
BE 15 FEET AS WELL AS A REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARDS ON THE
EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE APPROVED SIX
FEET TO FIVE FEET.
GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE SITE 4,769 SQUARE FEET, A MAXIMUM OF
ONE UNIT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT OR A TOTAL OF TWO UNITS ARE
PERMITTED WITH THE BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
NEXT WE HAVE THE AERIALS -- NOT AS I RECALL.
ELEVATIONS.
THESE ELEVATIONS DEPICT A SINGLE STRUCTURE WITH THREE-STORY
UNITS.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER REQUESTED WITH THIS APPLICATION TO ALLOW
A MINIMUM ROOF PITCH OF 3/12 IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED ROOF
PITCH OF 4/12.
NEXT WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS, THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM WEST CHERRY STREET.
NEXT PHOTO IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM THE ALLEYWAY THAT IS TO THE NORTH
OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING EAST ON THAT ALLEYWAY THAT IS NORTH
OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
LOOKING SOUTH, WE HAVE THE PARKING LOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE
WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AND
THEN, OF COURSE, LOOKING SOUTHWEST YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL
THERE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS
APPLICATION.
WE DO FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE
SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READINGS.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:05:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
12:05:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS ALEX RIOS WITH RIOS ARCHITECTURE.
I AM PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER FOR REZ 25-90.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD.
THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD ALLOWS FOR TWO SEMI DETACHED
TOWNHOMES.
WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS VERY LIMITED IN SCOPE WITH
THREE SPECIFIC MODIFICATIONS.
FIRST IS THE REAR SETBACK.
THIS PROPOSED PD DOES REDUCE THE REAR SETBACK COMPARED TO
THE PRIOR APPROVED PD BUT STILL MAINTAINS THE 15-FOOT

REQUIRED SETBACK REQUIRED BY THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
SECONDLY, THE GARAGE DIMENSIONS.
WE ARE REDUCING THE SIDE SETBACK FROM SIX FEET TO FIVE FEET,
BUT TO ALLOW FOR -- THAT ALSO ALLOWS FOR A MORE FUNCTIONAL
GARAGE.
LASTLY IS THE ROOF PITCH.
THAT IS THE ONLY WAIVER ON THE APPLICATION.
IF I MAY HERE, JUST TO PRESENT -- LET ME GO TO THE
ELEVATIONS.
WE HAVE TRIED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO MAINTAIN A ROOF PITCH AT
ALL BECAUSE BEING A THREE-STORY STRUCTURE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE ELEVATIONS, WE ARE BASICALLY AT NINE
FEET, LESS THAN NINE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR WITH SHALLOW
FLOOR TRUSSES.
3/12 PITCH DOES TAKE UP FIVE FEET IN TOTAL HEIGHT.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO STILL MAINTAIN THE 35-FOOT HEIGHT
REQUIREMENT.
IF IT BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE DO NOT MIND MAINTAINING
THE PRESENTATION AS SHOWN WITH, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE LESS THAN
NINE -- WE ARE MAINTAINING 35 FEET, BUT IF IT BE THE
PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO GOING WITH A 4/12
PITCH AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE ADDED HEIGHT TO ACCOUNT FOR
IT, WHICH WE WOULD REQUEST 38 FEET TO DO SO.
WE DID MAKE SOME MINOR TWEAKS TO THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE LATEST RENDERING WE HAVE OF THE FRONT.

WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU.
12:07:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO I HAVE QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU PUT THE NEW PROPOSED ELEVATION THAT YOU HAVE ON THE
FRONT.
THE PICTURE.
I'M GOING TO HOLD TO YOU A PICTURE.
HONEST WITH YOU, WHEN I FIRST -- GENERALLY WHEN YOU COME UP
BEFORE US, YOU KNOW I AM A BIG FAN OF YOUR PROJECTS AND CAN
ALMOST APPROVE THINGS WITH MY EYES CLOSED WHENEVER YOU
PRESENT.
THE FIRST ELEVATIONS I WAS QUESTIONING.
THE PORCH ON THIS ONE LOOKS MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN YOUR
SKETCH DRAWINGS.
I FELT THAT YOU WERE MISSING THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY INTENT
WITH THE FRONT PORCH ON YOUR ORIGINAL DRAWINGS.
I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW YOU HAVE THAT
DEPICTED ON THIS PARTICULAR DRAWING.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONY, IS THAT JUST A DESIGN ELEMENT?
BECAUSE YOU'RE LOSING SQUARE FOOTAGE THERE?
WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT THERE?
12:08:17AM >> BECAUSE THEY ARE REAR ACCESS GARAGE, BECAUSE REAR ACCESS
GARAGE, THERE IS LIMITED GREENSPACE.
SO WE'RE MAKING UP FOR THAT BY HAVING A FRONT BALCONY ON THE

SECOND LEVEL.
12:08:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL FEELS, BUT I
WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE VARIANCE ON THE HEIGHT TO
GET THE ROOF PITCH IN LINE WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
I DON'T KNOW THE SENTIMENT OF EVERYBODY ELSE, I WOULD RATHER
SEE THE ROOF PITCH.
AGAIN, IF THIS IS YOUR INTENT TO BUILD THIS, I'M MUCH MORE
COMFORTABLE WITH THIS THAN THE FIRST GO-AROUND.
THIS IS BETTER.
12:08:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S A WAIVER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
12:08:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AT LEAST IT'S IN LINE --
12:09:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE FACT IT
IS A WAIVER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I AGREE.
I THINK THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, I THINK BEING ABLE TO
APPROVE THAT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT.
12:09:17AM >> IF THE APPLICANT PROCEEDS WITH 4/12 ROOF PITCH IT WOULD
NOT INVOLVE A WAIVER.
THEY ONLY NEED THE WAIVER IF PURSUE 3/12.
12:09:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY WOULD GO 35 TO 38.
12:09:29AM >> THEY WOULD SET THEIR HEIGHT THROUGH THE PD.
12:09:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ON THE
PD.
12:09:38AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
UPDATE THE REVISION SHEET TO WHERE
THEY UPDATE THE ELEVATIONS WITH THE HEIGHT.

STRIKE THE WAIVER LANGUAGE FROM THE SITE PLAN AND THEN
UPDATE THE NEW HEIGHT UNDER THE SITE DATA TABLE.
THREE VERY MINOR CHANGES.
IF THE APPLICANT IS FINE WITH THAT, IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF
COUNCIL, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROCEED.
12:10:02AM >> IT WOULD BE OUR PREFERENCE AS WELL.
WE CAME INTO THE ZONING TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE 35 FEET.
WE DEFINITELY WOULD BE GRACIOUS FOR THE 38.
THAT IS THE PREFERENCE.
12:10:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'VE DONE THIS RECENTLY AND AGAIN WE REALLY
APPRECIATE, YOU ALWAYS BRING EXCELLENT DESIGNS, BUT WE HAVE
STARTED ASKING IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO COMMIT TO BUILDING
THIS EXACT FACADE.
THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY.
IT'S 12:00.
YEAH, THAT FACADE, WOULD IT LOOK LIKE THIS?
12:10:44AM >> YEAH, ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER, I WOULD SAY, YES.
12:10:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE MODIFICATIONS, ANYBODY ELSE --
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THIS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENTS?
12:11:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE
PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2539 WEST CHERRY STREET
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE
WITH THE REVISION.
12:11:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE HEIGHT REVISION AND SITE AND
STIPULATION TO BUILD TO THE FACADE.
12:11:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:11:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:11:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU NEED THAT WRITTEN OR STATED MORE
CLEARLY?
12:11:51AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
I THINK THE THREE THINGS WE
MENTIONED, WHICH WOULD BE UPDATED ELEVATIONS, UPDATED SITE
DATA TABLE, AND STRIKING OF THE WAIVER ON THE SITE PLAN.
12:12:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND THE FACADE OR NO?
12:12:02AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
AND WE WOULD USE THE ELEVATIONS THE
-- REPLACE THE ELEVATIONS WITH THE ONES SHOWN TONIGHT
SHOWING THE REVISED BUILDING HEIGHT OF 38 FEET.
12:12:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF THE
MOTION, PLEASE.

12:12:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I ACCEPT WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID
AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO MY MOTION.
12:12:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SORRY.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:12:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
12:12:50AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:13:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE GET 2.0.
12:13:10AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ 25-91.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 2704 WEST PALMETTO STREET FROM
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER NOW TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:13:30AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.

I WAS SWORN IN.
OUR NEXT REZONING CASE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
PLANNING DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
EVACUATION ZONE E.
12:13:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M EITHER HAVING A STROKE OR THAT'S NOT
--
12:13:56AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
IS THAT BETTER?
THE SITE IS ACTUALLY JUST TO THE NORTHWEST OF IT OF THE
PREVIOUS AMENDMENT -- SORRY, THE PREVIOUS REZONING.
JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM NORTH TAMPANIA AVENUE.
AGAIN, THIS IS WEST TAMPA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO THE SOUTH,
AND IT IS JUST ABOUT A BLOCK OFF OF ARMENIA, WHICH IS BY THE
FRAME HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL 20.
THAT DESIGNATION SURROUNDS THE SUBJECT SITE ON ALL SIDES.
AGAIN, P/SP TO THE SOUTH.
R-10 ONE BLOCK TO THE WEST AND CC-35 ALONG ARMENIA AVENUE
HERE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND
NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER.
THERE HAS BEEN A MODIFICATION TO THE PREVIOUS BONUS
PROVISION AGREEMENT.
INCLUDED IN THIS APPLICATION.

STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS PORTION OF WEST PALMETTO STREET.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE, WHICH
ENCOURAGES PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN AND DENSITY THAT
SUPPORTS TRANSIT USE.
PROPOSED DESIGN ORIENTS BOTH UNITS TOWARDS THE PUBLIC
SIDEWALK, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH LU POLICY 9.2.6 REGARDING
ORIENTATION OF FRONT DOORS FOR ATTACHED UNITS.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:15:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PLANNING STAFF?
HEARING NONE.
12:15:45AM >> FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN
RED IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST PALM -- WEST
PALMETTO STREET.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK IS LOCATED EAST OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE,
AND WEST OF NORTH TAMPANIA AVENUE.
TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE
HAVE RS 50 ZONING.
THE SURROUNDING USES ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING

UNITS.
JUST FURTHER EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, ACROSS NORTH TAMPANIA
AVENUE, THE ZONING CHANGES OVER TO RM 16.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND IT
HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY
DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
MUCH LIKE THE APPLICATION YOU JUST HEARD BEFORE THIS ONE,
THIS WAS BEFORE YOU IN 2024, AND THE APPLICANT, DUE TO
PROPOSED STRUCTURAL DWELLING REDESIGN IS SEEKING A REDUCTION
IN THE REAR YARD AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS, AND THERE IS ALSO
STILL A NEED FOR A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
I WILL ALSO NOTE BEFORE JUMPING INTO THE SITE PLAN THAT THE
APPLICATION WE JUST HEARD IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST FROM THE
APPLICATION THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION NOW.
THEY ARE BASICALLY IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.
NEXT WE HAVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 4,769 SQUARE FEET IN
AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE-FAMILY
SEMI DETACHED UNITS.
THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A SINGLE STRUCTURE CONTAINING TWO UNITS.
EACH UNIT HAS A TWO-CAR GARAGE PROVIDING REAR ENTRY TO EACH
UNIT FROM THE 14-FOOT ALLEYWAY THAT IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH
OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
THERE IS A COVERED ENTRYWAY FOR EACH UNIT AND THREE FOOT

SIDEWALK FROM EACH UNIT LEADING OUT TO THE EXISTING FIVE
FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALK.
FRONT DOORS ARE ORIENTED TO WEST PALMETTO STREET.
THE SPECIFIC SETBACK REDUCTIONS PROPOSED TO THIS PD
APPLICATION INCLUDE A REAR YARD SETBACK REDUCTION FROM 28
FEET TO 15 AND A REDUCTION IN THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS ON THE
EAST AND WEST SIDE FROM 6 FEET TO 5 FEET.
GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE SITE AT 4,769 SQUARE FEET, MAXIMUM OF
ONE DWELLING UNIT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR TWO ARE PERMITTED
WITH A BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT.
THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS SHOW WHAT WAS PROVIDED WITH THIS
APPLICATION, BUT MUCH LIKE THE LAST APPLICATION, I'M SURE
THE APPLICANT WILL TALK ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS AND ANY CHANGES
THAT HE MAY SEEK AT THIS HEARING.
I'M ALSO GOING TO READ INTO RECORD THE WAIVER REQUESTED
THROUGH THIS APPLICATION BUT MUCH LIKE THE LAST ONE, THE
APPLICANT WILL TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE ROOF PITCH.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER REQUESTED WITH THE APPLICATION TO ALLOW
A MINIMUM ROOF PITCH OF 3/12 IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED ROOF
PITCH OF 4/12.
NEXT WE HAVE PHOTOS, THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE
FROM WEST PALMETTO STREET LOOKING NORTH ACROSS WEST PALMETTO
STREET, IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE WE HAVE THE
14-FOOT ALLEYWAY.
FURTHER SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST CHERRY STREET, YOU

CAN SEE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNITS.
EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE
SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:20:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:20:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND IT
LEAVES ME A LITTLE PERPLEXED ABOUT THREE STORIES HIGH WEST
TAMPA.
THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT IN WEST TAMPA.
NONE.
I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE FOR IT.
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE, BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING
ANY FUTURE ONES.
12:20:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
12:20:45AM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ALEX RIOS, WITH RIOS ARCHITECTURE PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF
THE PETITIONER FOR REZ 25-91.

THIS PRESENTATION IS EXACT -- EXACTLY LIKE THE PRIOR
PRESENTATION.
THE SAME THREE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE.
IF ANYTHING, THE ONLY MINOR CHANGE WHICH IS ONLY A SITE
CONSTRAINT IS THAT THE BUILD-TO LINE IN THE WEST TAMPA
OVERLAY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE HERE.
HERE IS THE OVERALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT, AND IT HAPPENS TO BE
A LITTLE BIT SMALLER COMPARED TO THE PRIOR PRESENTATION.
BUT THE PRESENTATION IS THE SAME.
THE REQUESTED CHANGES WOULD BE THE SAME.
IF IT BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE
WITH THE 4/12 PITCH AND GO WITH THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
12:21:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND BUILD THE SAME FACADE.
12:21:31AM >> YES, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN ADD THOSE TO THE CORRECTION SHEET.
12:21:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE?
SORRY, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

12:21:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 2704 WEST PALMETTO STREET, CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:22:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE A REVISION SHEET ON THIS ONE?
12:22:22AM >> THERE WILL BE.
WE'LL NEED TO MAKE THE SAME EXACT CHANGES TO THIS ONE.
HAPPY TO STATE IT IN THE RECORD.
12:22:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHY DON'T WE.
12:22:29AM >> WE'LL BE MAKING CHANGES, APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING
REVISED ELEVATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
WE WILL STRIKE THE WAIVER REQUESTS THAT'S ALSO ON THE SITE
PLAN, AND THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE TO THE SITE DATA TABLE
REFLECTING A REVISED BUILDING HEIGHT USING THE 4/12 ROOF
PITCH.
SAME EXACT ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH REZ 25-90.
12:22:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
12:23:06AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:23:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
12:23:25AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 5 IS REZ 25-99 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5250 AND
5242 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED PD,
APPROVED IN 2021 UNDER REZ 21-99.
IT ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY STRIP SHOPPING CENTER
AND ALL CI USES.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW
FOR ALL COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:24:00AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
I WAS SWORN IN.
OUR NEXT REZONING CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE D.
THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS JUST HAS FRONTAGE ALONG EAST BROADWAY
AVENUE AND IS JUST SOUTH OF EAST 14th STREET.
THIS AREA IS INTERESTING.

THERE'S GENERALLY, SOUTH OF BROADWAY, WE HAVE SOME
INDUSTRIAL USES AS SHOWN HERE ON THE AERIAL.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE
SOME SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PARK JUST
NORTH OF 14th STREET.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE ALONG BROADWAY IS DESIGNATED
TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
THAT CATEGORY ALLOWS A RANGE OF USES, ANYTHING FROM LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS
RESIDENTIAL 20.
THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 IS TO THE NORTH, WEST, AND EAST OF THE
SUBJECT SITE.
SOUTH OF BROADWAY AS WE GET OFF THE CORRIDOR, WE HAVE LIGHT
INDUSTRIAL.
THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING LU POLICY 5.1.6, ENTITLEMENTS
ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE.
POLICY ALLOWS FLOOR AREA RATIO CALCULATED ACROSS THE ENTIRE
SITE AND PERMITS USES FROM THE APPLICABLE LAND USE
CATEGORIES TO BE LOCATED ANYWHERE ON THE SITE THROUGH AN
APPROVED PD.
AND THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TODAY.
PROPOSED INTENSITY CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THE CI USES CAN BE

CONSIDERED ANYWHERE ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST AND FOUND IS
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH
INCLUDES A DIVERSE MIX OF USES AS MENTIONED, RESIDENTIAL,
COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC USES.
THE PROPOSED EASTERN BUILDING IS SET BACK APPROXIMATELY 87
FEET AND THE PROPOSED WESTERN BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 145
FEET FROM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE NORTH.
ADDITIONAL SETBACKS ARE PROVIDED TO THE EAST AND WEST.
WITH BUILDING SETBACKS APPROXIMATELY 94 FEET FROM
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ACROSS NORTH -- I'M SORRY.
NORTH 54th STREET AND 96 FEET FROM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
SITES TO THE WEST.
8-FOOT SOLID VINYL FENCE AND LANDSCAPE PROPOSED ALONG THE
NORTHERN, EASTERN, WESTERN PROPERTY LINES TO FURTHER SCREEN
RESIDENTIAL USES.
STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST IS SENSITIVE TO THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROJECT ALSO ENHANCES PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BY
PROVIDING TREE-LINED SIDEWALKS ALONG EAST BROADWAY AVENUE,
NORTH 54th STREET, AND EAST 14th AVENUE AS WELL AS THE
SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM THE BUILDING ENTRANCES ON EAST
BROADWAY AVENUE.
BASED ON THE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS
THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

PLAN AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
12:27:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
LEAVE THAT UP THERE FOR A SECOND.
IT SEEMS ODD -- YOU SEE THE CONSISTENCY OF THE FUTURE LAND
USE AS IT SITS, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THESE PARCELS
AROUND HERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND A PARK.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY ALONG BROADWAY, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT
WOULD HAVE HIGHER INTENSIVE USAGE.
SO WHAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION WHEN THEY
FOUND CONSISTENCY TO ENCROACH INTO THE SINGLE-FAMILY
NEIGHBORHOOD?
12:27:50AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
SO AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE UTILIZING THE
BLENDING PROVISION, LU POLICY 5.1.6 WHICH ALLOWS THE
BLENDING OF, IN THIS CASE, THE CI USES ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL
20.
AS FAR AS COMPATIBILITY, THEY PROVIDE AMPLE SETBACKS TO THE
RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THEY HAVE ALSO ARE MEETING BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPING
REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEY LOCATED, FOR THE MOST PART, THE BUILDINGS CLOSE TO
BROADWAY, AS FAR AS THE ENTRANCE, SO THE ACCESS WOULD BE
FROM BROADWAY.
SO THAT IS WHAT FACTORED INTO OUR FINDING.
ALSO, TU 24 CATEGORY KIND OF IS A CATEGORY, LIKE I SAID THAT
ALLOWS A RANGE OF USES.

IT SHOULD BE -- DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE -- THERE ARE -- THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS POLICY THAT SAYS THE CATEGORY HAS --
TRYING TO SAY, THE ABILITY TO CREATE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THAT'S LANGUAGE FOR THE TU 24 CATEGORY.
SO THESE -- IT KIND OF -- THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO TREND TO
WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
IN THIS CASE, THERE IS THAT INDUSTRIAL TO THE SOUTH OF THE
SUBJECT SITE --
12:29:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IF WE
APPROVE THIS, WE ARE -- WE'RE CLAIMING USAGE IN AN AREA THAT
DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST.
KIND OF REDEFINING WHAT THE USAGE WOULD BE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE?
12:29:36AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE FOUND THAT IF THEY
DID PROVIDE ADEQUATE SETBACKS, THEY ARE MEETING THEIR
LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENTS.
12:29:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
NEXT.
12:29:54AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS REZONING REQUEST, WHICH IS REZ 25-99, IT WOULD ALLOW
FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF 60,000 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS PROPOSED ON THE SITE, MAXIMUM
BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET.

YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED HERE ON
BROADWAY.
IT'S OUTLINED IN RED.
FOR ORIENTATION, THIS IS 56th STREET.
THIS IS 54th STREET, AND YOU CAN SEE ALONG BROADWAY AVENUE
TO THE WEST, YOU HAVE THE IG ZONING ALONG BROADWAY.
TO THE EAST, JUST ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF THE SITE AND THEN
FURTHER EAST YOU HAVE THE CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING,
AND YOU HAVE THOSE USES ALONG BROADWAY, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT
WITH THE ZONING, THE OPEN STORAGE, THE VEHICLE REPAIR, USES
ALONG BROADWAY.
AND THEN AS YOU HEAD FURTHER NORTH, YOU HAVE YOUR
RESIDENTIAL, THE RM 16 ZONING AND THE SPOT OF RM 18 TO THE
NORTHEAST.
I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SURROUNDING USES, SO I'LL SHOW YOU
SOME OF THE USES SURROUNDING LIKE THE SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, THE RESIDENTIAL THAT EXISTS TO THE NORTH AND THE
WEST.
BUT THE SITE HAS 473 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON BROADWAY AND 466
FEET ALONG NORTH 54th STREET.
THERE ARE 12 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND 23 PARKING SPACES
ARE PROVIDED.
AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED.
TRY TO FIT IT ALL ON.
THE SITE IS FAIRLY LARGE.

A LITTLE OVER SEVEN ACRES.
THE SITE CONTAINS 314,672 SQUARE FEET.
LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE MORE.
THIS IS 54th STREET.
THIS IS BROADWAY.
THIS IS 14th AVENUE.
SO THE TWO BUILDINGS PROPOSED ARE IN RED.
THEY ARE EACH 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
THESE BUILDINGS ARE IDENTICAL.
SO BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING TWO, BOTH BUILDINGS HAVE
VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE SOUTH ALONG BROADWAY.
SO THERE IS A POINT OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, TWO POINTS HERE
FOR BUILDING ONE AND THEN FOR BUILDING TWO, THE SAME.
THERE ARE TWO POINTS.
THE SITE HAS SURFACE PARKING THAT'S LOCATED IN THE FRONT AND
ON THE SIDE OF EACH BUILDING.
THERE IS A SPACE THAT IS DEDICATED, IF THERE IS OPEN STORAGE
ON THE SITE, IT IS NEAR THE REAR OF THE SITE ON BOTH OF
THESE -- FOR BOTH BUILDINGS ON-SITE.
AS I MENTIONED, I'LL SHOW YOU PICTURES OF THE SURROUNDING
USES WITH THE PROPERTY.
BOTH BUILDINGS ARE THE SAME.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE ONE SET OF ELEVATIONS.
AT THE TOP, YOU HAVE THE EAST ELEVATION.
AT THE BOTTOM IS THE WEST.

THEN YOU HAVE THE NORTH ELEVATION AT THE TOP AND THEN THIS
IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
THERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
I UNDERSTAND THE HOUR.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON BROADWAY.
SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE RIGHT.
THIS IS THE SOUTHWEST BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
SO WE'LL START AT BROADWAY WEST, HEAD EAST.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
NOW WE'RE ON 54th STREET, THE EAST BOUNDARY.
YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS VACANT.
MORE PICTURES OF THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
THIS IS THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE.
NOW WE'RE AT THE SURROUNDING USES.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF 52nd AND BROADWAY.
ON 52nd, THIS IS A VIEW IF YOU'RE LOOKING NORTH ON 52nd.
THIS IS SOME OF THE USES SINGLE FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
THIS IS THE PARK LOCATED NORTH OF THE SITE THAT'S ON 14th
AVENUE.
THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
THIS IS ALSO NORTH OF THE SITE, SEMI DETACHED.
THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE AT THE CORNER, 14th AND 54th.
THIS IS EAST.

WE SWING BACK AROUND.
THAT IS THE COMMERCIAL EAST OF THE SITE.
THERE ARE FIVE WAIVERS WITH THIS REQUEST.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER TO 27282 AND THAT IS THE REQUEST TO
INSTALL SOLID VINYL FENCE IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED SIX FOOT
MASONRY WALL ON 1th AVENUE AND 54th STREET.
THERE ARE FOUR NATURAL RESOURCES WAIVERS.
ONE TO REMOVE TWO NON-HAZARDOUS GRAND LIVE OAKS, ONE REQUEST
TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED 50% TREE RETENTION ON NON-WOODED LOT
OVER AN ACRE TO 21%.
THERE IS A REQUEST TO INSTALL A SOLID VINYL FENCE IN LIEU OF
THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ON THE WEST BOUNDARY OF THE
PROPERTY.
FINAL WAIVER IS TO PLANT TYPE THREE TREES IN THE 15-FOOT USE
LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM THE REQUIRED TYPE ONE -- OR TYPE TWO
TREES.
THIS IS WHERE OVERHEAD WIRES ARE LOCATED.
WITH THAT THE DRC STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
IF YOU'LL SEE THE FINDINGS IN STAFF REPORT FROM NATURAL
RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SITE PLAN CHANGES ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
ERIN IS GOING TO GO OVER QUICKLY HER COMMENTS AND HER
FINDING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

12:35:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:35:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST OF ALL, ARE WE MISSING A LIGHT
SOMEWHERE?
12:35:58AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
I THINK SO.
12:35:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE SHADOW IS REALLY, REALLY AWFUL.
12:36:03AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THERE IS NO LIGHT UP HERE.
12:36:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
USUALLY THERE IS A LIGHT SOMEWHERE.
THERE MUST BE A LAMP OUT.
12:36:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THE LORD SAID ...
12:36:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOW, YOU FIX EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU.
I'M SO GLAD I SAID SOMETHING.
FIRST OF ALL, THANKS.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS
IS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD AND THEY GET TO KEEP PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED WAIVERS IF WE'RE GOING FOR A NEW PD.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING OR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS
DON'T APPLY?
12:36:50AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SINCE THEY ARE COMING THROUGH WITH THIS NEW USE, THOSE
WAIVERS DO NOT APPLY.
THIS IS THE NEW WAIVERS REQUEST.
WHAT I READ INTO THE RECORD ARE THE NEW WAIVERS.

12:37:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAIVERS ARE NOT
APPLICABLE.
12:37:06AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LIKE THE PARKING PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WAS
FROM 235 TO 222 IS NOT --
12:37:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TREES BUT --
12:37:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET TO THE
TREES.
THE EXISTING USE OF THIS IS RESIDENTIAL.
IT WAS A MOBILE HOME PARK, IS THAT RIGHT?
RESIDENTIAL?
12:37:27AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THAT IS WHAT IT STARTED AS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE AERIAL.
12:37:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD WAS ALSO
RESIDENTIAL.
12:37:34AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THEN IT WENT TO PD.
AND THIS IS THE CURRENT PD.
THAT ALLOWS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ALONG WITH THE COMMERCIAL.
SO THE WAY THE SITE WAS DESIGNED, YOU HAD YOUR RESIDENTIAL
BUILDINGS HERE AND THEN COMMERCIAL HERE ALONG BROADWAY.
12:38:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LaCHONE?
12:38:13AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:38:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S TALK TREES.
LET'S TALK A TREE.

12:38:20AM >>ERIN MAEHR:
ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I'LL SPEAK ON NATURAL RESOURCES FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
THERE WERE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF WAIVERS THAT ARE
REQUESTED.
ON THIS SITE HERE, THERE ARE FOUR PRESERVATION QUALITY GRAND
LIVE OAKS ON THE SITE.
THE GREEN CIRCLES ARE THE TWO GRAND TREES THAT ARE BEING
PRESERVED THAT ARE PRESERVATION QUALITY.
THE TWO RED ARE THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED TO
REMOVE THESE TWO PRESERVATION QUALITY GRAND LIVE OAKS.
SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE SITE IS JUST OVER SEVEN ACRES.
IN ADDITION TO REMOVING THE GRAND TREES, THE TWO GRAND TREES
REQUIRING WAIVERS, THEY DO NEED A WAIVER FOR THE TREE
RETENTION DOWN TO 21%.
SO THERE'S 38 TREES THAT COUNT TOWARDS THE TREE RETENTION.
AND 8 OF THOSE ARE TO BE RETAINED ON THE SITE.
JUST IN COMPARISON, THE PRIOR REZONING THAT IS THE CERTIFIED
SITE PLAN HAD A WAIVER, WHICH ALLOWED THE TREE RETENTION TO
GO DOWN TO 30%.
I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE, THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN,
AND THIS IS ALSO GRAND TREE NUMBER 70, WHICH IS LOCATED
BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, LIKE BETWEEN THESE TWO DRIVE
AISLES, AND IT IS -- IT'S TREE NUMBER 70.
IT HAS A 58-INCH DIAMETER LIVE OAK RATED C-4, AND IT'S WORTH
23 MITIGATION TREES.

THIS TREE WAS ACTUALLY PRESERVED IN REZ 21-99.
THAT IS JUST A BIGGER PHOTO OF IT.
IT HAS A REALLY NICE HIGH CANOPY.
REALLY GOOD ATTACHMENTS FOR THESE CODOMINANT TRUNKS.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH A MORE THOUGHTFUL DESIGN, PAVEMENT
COULD HAVE GONE AROUND THIS IN SOME MANNER.
THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE SITE PLAN BEFORE.
THIS WAS TREE 70 HERE, AND IT WAS PRESERVED IN THE PRIOR
REZONING.
BUT THAT SAID, I DO JUST WANT TO SPEAK THAT THE APPLICANT
HAS WORKED WITH NATURAL RESOURCES, AND THEY CAN PROVIDE ALL
THE CODE REQUIRED TREES ON THE SITE.
THEY HAVE ALSO PROVIDED THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, SO THEY HAVE
15 FEET TO THE WEST AND EIGHT FOOT HIGH PVC FENCE.
THEY HAVE THE FIVE-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO THE NORTH ACROSS
FROM -- ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME,
AND THERE YOU CAN PROVIDE 8-FOOT VUA LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO THE
EAST.
THE SITE REQUIRES 98 TREES.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PLANT THREE-QUARTERS OF THEM
AS TYPE ONE SHADE TREES.
GIVEN THE WAIVERS FOR THE GRAND TREE AND THE TREE RETENTION,
WE FOUND THE APPLICATION INCONSISTENT.
12:41:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?

HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
12:41:24AM >> ROB ROSNER, FLORIDA DESIGN CONSULTANTS FOR THE
PETITIONER.
JANU SIVANESAN IS ONLINE, IF WE CAN BRING HER UP AND SWEAR
HER IN.
SHE IS ONLINE.
12:41:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND UNMUTE
YOURSELF.
12:41:44AM >> I DID BOTH.
12:41:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN, PLEASE.
CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
12:41:54AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:41:59AM >> YES.
12:42:04AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TO CONSIDER THIS APPLICATION.
THE OWNER HAS PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY RECENTLY.
THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN, THE DEVELOPER PRIOR TO HER WAS NOT
ABLE TO GET THAT TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
THE WAY IT WAS.
IT WASN'T VIABLE.
COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK, SO SHE BOUGHT IT AND SHE HAS DONE
WORK IN THE AREA FOR SIMILAR KIND OF PROPERTY FOR DOING
COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE IN THIS CASE WHERE THIS WILL BE
DELIVERY TYPE PLACE WHERE LIKE IF -- HOW SHALL I SAY?

EQUIPMENT RENTAL PLACE.
YOU COME AND PULL YOUR SEMI THROUGH, LOAD THE EQUIPMENT ON,
AND USE IT ON YOUR SITE, RETURN IT HOWEVER LONG IT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
COULD BE EQUIPMENT.
COULD BE MATERIALS, WHATEVER THEY ARE SELLING.
HER INTENTION WAS TO HAVE TWO BUILDINGS TO RENT TWO
DIFFERENT TENANTS.
THE IDEA OF THE DRIVEWAYS WAS TO PRESERVE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS
AND USE THOSE, TWO BUILDINGS OPERATING TWO RENTAL SPACES.
SIMILAR, OBVIOUSLY, THEY ARE THE SAME BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
BUT THE INTENTION IS TO TAKE HEAVY DELIVERIES, THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS AND HAVE TO MAKE MOVEMENTS IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE
MANNER TO GET IN THROUGH THE BUILDING, LOAD, UNLOAD, GOING
THROUGH.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING THE PRIMARY USE OF THE
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHICH TENANTS YOU'LL GET, BUT THE EXAMPLE OF
LIKE A RENTAL WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GIVE A GENERAL
SENSE OF THE BUSINESS.
REGARDING THE TWO BLENDED USES, THE REASON WE ASKED FOR THE
BLENDING IS BECAUSE THE TRANSITIONAL USE WAS ONLY ABOUT 90
FEET DEEP, WHICH IS BARELY ENOUGH TO EVEN GET A 60-FOOT
PARKING LOT IN A 30-FOOT WIDE BUILDING ON STRIP RETAIL THAT
WORKS.

BUT RETAIL DOESN'T WORK IN THAT AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S MOSTLY COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE GOING ON
ACROSS THE STREET.
SO WHEN WE APPROACHED IT WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE
INTENTION WAS TO BRING THOSE BUILDINGS AS FAR FORWARD AS WE
COULD AND STILL MAKE THE MOVEMENTS WORK WITH THE TRUCKS THAT
WE INTENDED TO SERVE IN THESE BUILDINGS.
SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO ADDRESS BY JUST GOING OVER SOME OF
THE HIGHLIGHTS.
IT'S TWO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH MULTIPLE PULL-THROUGH
BAYS.
THE IDEA IS THAT THEY COULD EITHER RENT THOSE AS SEPARATE
BAYS OR TENANT COULD TAKE ALL SIX BAYS IN EACH BUILDING.
SITE CONFIGURATIONS RENTED FOR TWO DIFFERENT TENANTS OR
MULTIPLE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE DELIVERIES AS PULLING THROUGH.
WE'RE EXPECTING THE LARGEST SEMIS HERE BECAUSE WE'RE
EXPECTING HEAVIER EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER USES
ALONG BROADWAY WHICH IS SIMILAR.
MOSTLY AUTO CENTRIC.
THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO MAKE MOST OF THESE CHANGES THAT
WERE BROUGHT UP IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH MAYBE ONE OR TWO
EXCEPTIONS OF TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THE CIRCULATION.
OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
12:45:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST, NORTH, COULD YOU IDENTIFY
WHICH ONES ARE RESIDENTIAL?
12:45:45AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
I'LL PUT UP THE AERIAL MAP.
THEN I CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES IF YOU WANT ME TO ACCESS THE
PICTURES.
THESE TO THE WEST, THIS IS YOUR SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED.
12:46:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE BUTT UP RIGHT AGAINST THE PROPERTY.
12:46:03AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
ALONG BROADWAY IT STARTS COMMERCIAL.
COMMERCIAL.
THEN IT GOES TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
THE PARK IS HERE, AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ALONG WITH SEMI DETACHED TO THE
NORTH.
AND THEN TO THE EAST, THIS PORTION OF THE BLOCK IS
RESIDENTIAL.
DETACHED.
12:46:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AM I ASSESSING THIS CORRECTLY, THE AREAS
THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL ALIGN WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION?
12:46:32AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, AS THEY CURRENTLY EXIST, YES.
12:46:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

12:46:47AM >> COULD I ADD ANYTHING AT ALL OR LET ME KNOW WHEN IT IS
APPROPRIATE?
12:46:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING,
THE OWNER.
12:46:55AM >> I'VE DONE A LOT OF DILIGENCE AND WORK ON THIS, TO GIVE
YOU --
12:46:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE.
12:47:01AM >> MY NAME IS JANU SIVANESAN.
THIS PROPERTY, I THINK SOMEBODY ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER
WHAT THE HISTORY OF THIS WAS, WAS IT A MOBILE HOME PARK.
IT WAS A MOBILE HOME PARK OVER 30 YEARS AGO, AND IT WENT
INTO BANKRUPTCY AND HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE AND CONTINUES TO
BE VACANT TODAY.
AND HAS BEEN FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD.
THE PRIOR OWNER WENT THROUGH A LOT OF TROUBLE TO GET THE PD
THAT EXISTS TODAY, BLENDED USE OF CI AND RESIDENTIAL AND
ULTIMATELY DID NOT DEVELOP IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ECONOMICAL
VIABLE TO MAKE THE RESIDENTIAL USE WORK THERE.
WE HAD TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST
USE AND HOW TO BEST USE THIS PIECE OF LAND.
HAVING DONE A LOT OF DILIGENCE ON THE MARKET, THE NEED, THIS
IDEA OF WAREHOUSE SPACE THAT'S EITHER ABLE TO USE BY A
NATIONAL COMPANY OR EVEN A REGIONAL COMPANY WE'VE HAD
ANYWHERE FROM SWIMMING POOL MANUFACTURERS THAT NEED STORAGE
AND SALES PEOPLE THAT NEED A LOT OF SPACE IN ORDER TO STORE

THEIR EQUIPMENT AND STORE THEIR ITEMS TO ORIGINAL LANDSCAPER
TO WHOLE NUMBER OF USES.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLY GROWING MARKET AND PARTICULARLY
ATTRACTIVE IN TAMPA AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA BECAUSE
IT'S KIND OF AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR IN LARGE PARTS OF IT.
SO THAT'S SORT OF WHY TODAY WE THINK THIS MAKES SENSE AND
WHY IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED UP TO NOW.
IT ACTUALLY PRESENTS PRETTY LARGE PROBLEMS FOR THE COMMUNITY
LOCALLY, UNDEVELOPED.
IT ATTRACTS HOMELESS PEOPLE.
I KNOW ANECDOTALLY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY TO SEE
SOMETHING HAPPEN TO IT BECAUSE THE VACANCY HAS REALLY
ATTRACTED NOT THE RIGHT ELEMENT FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY THE
COMMUNITY WELL.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING THAT TO SOMETHING THAT'S
BEEN DORMANT FOR DECADES.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF JUST SPECIFYING A LITTLE MORE CLARITY
ON SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES, ON THE WESTERN SIDE, ONE
PORTION IS COMMERCIAL AND THEN TOWARDS THE BACK, IT IS
DUPLEXES THAT ARE THERE.
BUT THERE IS A CREEK, IT IS ACTUALLY A DRAINAGE DITCH, BUT
FAIRLY WIDE THAT SEPARATES THOSE PROPERTIES FROM THIS
DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD ADDITIONALLY HAVE THE BUFFER AS WELL,
15-FOOT BUFFER.
THEN ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, THERE WOULD BE A ROAD THAT

SEPARATES FROM THE OTHER HOMES THERE, AND THEN TO THE EAST,
THERE IS A PORTION THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND THEN TOWARDS THE
BACK, THERE IS A PORTION THAT'S RESIDENTIAL.
12:49:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION?
12:50:02AM >> ON THE WEST SIDE, THE CREEK SHE WAS MENTIONING IS A
REGULATED DITCH THAT THE CITY MANAGES AND WE MADE
COMMITMENTS TO PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL EASEMENT SPACE THEY
REQUESTED DURING THIS PROCESS.
IT'S WELL OVER 25 FEET WIDE, SO THERE'S THAT PLUS OUR
DISTANCE.
TO THE NEAREST HOUSE FROM THE EDGE OF OUR BUFFER IS 40 FEET.
BETWEEN THAT, WE'RE PUTTING OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM ON THAT
SIDE, TOO, SO YOU WON'T DIRECTLY HAVE MATERIALS AND THAT
KIND OF STUFF UP AGAINST THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE
RESIDENTIAL.
12:50:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG -- SORRY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE,
AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.

COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
12:50:51AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO I WOULD JUST -- UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE A
MIX OF USES IN THIS SPACE, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THERE
IS SOME RESIDENTIAL AND THERE IS A PARK NEARBY, I JUST WOULD
HAVE LIKED TO SEE A DIFFERENT ACTIVATION OF THE SPACE.
IT'S SO MUCH SPACE AND SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY THERE.
IT WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN -- AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
BUT SOMETHING TO REALLY ACTIVATE THAT SPACE FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA THAT KIND
OF SERVES BOTH PURPOSES.
AND THEN ALSO, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND
TREES, EVEN IF IT IS ONE TREE OR TWO TREES, IT'S STILL A
TREE.
I THINK WITH A THOUGHTFUL DESIGN WE COULD HAVE FOUND A WAY
TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE THAT TREE.
THAT'S MY COMMENTS.
12:51:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:51:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M AGREEING WITH YOU ON THIS.
I DON'T THINK IT IS THE RIGHT USE FOR THIS PIECE OF
PROPERTY.
I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED WITH FIVE WAIVERS ON A SEVEN ACRE
PARCEL THAT ONLY HAS TWO BUILDINGS.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM TO FIX WHAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, I WOULD NOT
WANT TO APPROVE THE WAIVERS OF THE FENCES BECAUSE I BELIEVE
THAT -- I MEAN, REALLY HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO THREE
SIDES SHOULD BE A MASONRY WALL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HEAVY
DUTY TYPE OF INTENSITY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT.
BUT IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO, I WOULD JUST SAY NOT TO
APPROVE THE WAIVERS OR AT LEAST QUITE A FEW -- WELL, NO,
THERE'S NONE OF THE WAIVERS THAT I LIKE HERE.
12:53:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO GET TO YES ON THIS, I REALLY
DID.
I GET THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY ARGUMENT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS
HOUSING IS A BIG ISSUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SO MUCH OF
THIS PARCEL, FUTURE LAND USE ANTICIPATED THIS IS TWO-THIRDS
OF THIS SHOOTING FROM MY HIP SHOULD BE REDEVELOPED AS
HOUSING.
OF COURSE, THE BROADWAY PORTION WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
BUT I DON'T SEE USING THAT BLENDING OPTION TO SACRIFICE WHAT
IS A STRATEGIC GOAL FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THAT IS THE
CONSTRUCTION OF MISSING MIDDLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND MISSING THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR LAND USE CODE TO BE
ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT GOAL.
I'M ALSO UNCOMFORTABLE -- THIS GETS INTO THE DIFFERENCE, THE
CASES WE HEARD EARLIER IN SOUTH TAMPA VERSUS WE GET TO THE

AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE AS
INFORMED OR NOT AS ACTIVATED BUT STILL PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS.
JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE, I FEEL LIKE AS AN ELECTED
OFFICIAL I HAVE TO BE THEIR VOICE AND SPEAK ON THEIR DEFENSE
OF HOW THIS IMPACTS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ONE TREE, I THINK MORE THOUGHTFUL DESIGN WE COULD HAVE
SAVED THE TREE.
I'M NOT THE BIGGEST TREE LOVER IN THE WORLD, BUT, MAN, THAT
IS A NICE TREE.
THAT IS A TOUGH ONE.
THE HEARING IS CLOSED, FYI.
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY TO THIS?
WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SHOT AT THIS ONE?
12:54:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY,
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE GIVEN OUT IN THE PAST AND YOU HAVE IT
BEFORE YOU NOW, IF YOU DON'T, I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY, THE
CRITERIA FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS IN SECTION 27-130 --
EXCUSE ME, 27-136 IS THE PURPOSE, AND THERE ARE SEVEN
CRITERIA THERE FOR WHICH YOU CAN JUDGE THE EVIDENCE AGAINST.
AND WITH REGARD, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, THE
WAIVERS, THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA FOR CONSIDERATION OF A

WAIVER ARE LISTED ON THAT SHEET UNDER 27-139.
SO MY REQUEST IS, AGAIN, YOU BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND YOU APPLY THE FACTS
AS YOU FIND THEM TO BE TO THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE AND
PLEASE CITE THE SECTIONS AND SUBSECTIONS WHEN YOU BASE YOUR
DECISION.
I THANK YOU.
IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO MAKE A RECORD.
12:55:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO IS GOING FOR IT?
12:55:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO DENY REZ 25-99 FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 5250 AND 5242 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE DUE TO THE
FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO
PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE AND THE
APPLICANT'S FAILURE TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF WITH RESPECT
TO THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
EXCUSE ME.
I DO FEEL THAT -- GOSH, I APOLOGIZE -- SECTION 27-136, THE
PURPOSE DOES NOT PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT WHERE
APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH
THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD, BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND
EXISTING GEOGRAPHY.
IT DOES NOT PROMOTE THE CAREFUL -- THE EFFICIENT AND
SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND, SUBSECTION ONE, PROMOTE SUFFICIENT

AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAREFUL
CONSIDERATION, POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ON-SITE NATURAL
ELEMENTS SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURAL
RESOURCES, FURTHERMORE, THAT THE WAIVERS ARE VOLUMINOUS AND,
QUITE FRANKLY, BASED ON THE DESIGN OF THE PD SHOULD NOT BE
AS VOLUMINOUS AS THEY ARE.
BASICALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR FIXING THOSE, SO THERE
WOULDN'T NEED TO BE WAIVERS.
12:57:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO 27-139, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
MAKING REFERENCE TO.
12:57:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
136.
I'M SORRY, FOR THE WAIVERS, YES.
I'M SORRY.
FOR THE WAIVER, SECTION 27-139 SUBSECTION 4.
12:57:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:57:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE WAIVERS, THE ONES THAT I HAVE ISSUES
WITH ARE 27-282.12-A-2.
AND 27-284.3.3A REGARDING THE SOLID VINYL FENCE IN LIEU OF
THE SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL.
IT WAS ALREADY MENTIONED AS TO WHY MASONRY WALL WOULD BE
MORE APPROPRIATE BUT ALSO IN REGARDS TO THE TREE,
SPECIFICALLY SECTION 27-284.2.5-F-1 SPECIFICALLY ON TREE
NUMBER 7, 50-INCH -- THE REAL BIG TREE.

WITH MORE CREATIVITY, IT COULD HAVE BEEN RECONFIGURED AND
PROTECTED.
THAT TO ME, IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LOSE THAT.
12:58:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENT.
12:58:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:58:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
12:58:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:58:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:58:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:58:50AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:58:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:58:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:58:55AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:58:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 6, PLEASE.
12:59:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ 25-100, REQUEST TO REZONE 2707
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2334 WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET FROM
RS 50 AND CI TO PD FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL
OFFICE AND ALL CG USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:59:35AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION

STAFF.
I WAS SWORN IN.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
SPECIFICALLY IN WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
EVACUATION ZONE D.
IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH ARMENIA
AVENUE AND WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET.
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR SO THE
PLAN IDENTIFIES TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS AS AREAS SUITABLE
FOR REDEVELOPMENT INTENSIFICATION.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS CC-35 AND RESIDENTIAL 35.
TO THE EAST, NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS CC-35 AND TRANSITION TO
R 35 AS YOU MOVE EAST.
WE HAVE NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST IS CMU
35.
THE REQUEST WOULD PROVIDE INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND
UNDERUTILIZED SITE AS MOST OF THE PARCEL REMAINS
UNDERDEVELOPED.
EXISTING DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF SMALL SINGLE STORY AUTO
SALES BUILDING THAT DOES NOT FULLY UTILIZE THE SITE'S
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
UNDERUTILIZED LANDS TO MEET TAMPA'S CURRENT AND FUTURE
POPULATION.
THIS REQUEST WOULD ADD HOUSING IN OLD WEST TAMPA

NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GROWTH STRATEGY WHICH
DIRECTS GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH TO URBAN VILLAGES.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
THE OVERALL DESIGN POLICIES OF THE MIXED USE CENTERS AND
CORRIDORS.
IF APPROVED, STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A
PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE AND
THE ELEVATOR, SUCH AS A PAINTED CROSS WALK AND CORRECT THE
DENSITY AND INTENSITY CALCULATIONS ON THE SITE DATA TABLE.
APPLICANT SHOULD REVISE SITE ACREAGE TO REFLECT SOCIETAL
TIGHT AREA OF .45 ACRES WITH .11 ACRES DESIGNATED AS
RESIDENTIAL 35 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
1:01:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PLANNING
STAFF?
HEARING NONE, NEXT.
1:01:53AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I'LL START WITH AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND WEST
SAINT LOUIS.

THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE SUBJECT
SITE IS COMPRISED OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS AND RS 50
ZONING ON THIS PORTION ON THE NORTH, EAST, AND SOUTH.
AND THEN ON THIS PORTION ON THE NORTH, WEST, AND SOUTH IS
ZONED CI AND INCLUDES COMMERCIAL USES THAT GO ALONG NORTH
ARMENIA AVENUE.
NEXT, I'LL PUT UP THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A SINGLE STRUCTURE CONTAINING SIX
RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE.
AND 2,970 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USE THERE ALONG ARMENIA
AND THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE A FRONTAGE HERE ALONG WEST
SAINT LOUIS STREET.
FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION WITH GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS
ARE PROPOSED ALONG WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET AND COMMERCIAL
PROPORTION PROPOSES ENTRY FROM NORTH ARMENIA THROUGH THE
ALLEY AND TO THE PARKING AREA, WHICH IS UNDERNEATH THE
PARKING -- THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THAT.
EACH UNIT PROPOSES A ONE-CAR GARAGE HERE.
AND ALSO ONE SURFACE PARKING SPOT.
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROPOSED FROM THE 14 FOOT
PLATTED ALLEY ON THE SOUTH FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL UNIT AND FOR
PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION.
SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED ALONG WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET, AND
THERE ARE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ALONG NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
THERE ARE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS PROPOSED INTERNALLY AND

BICYCLE PARKING SHELTER IS PROPOSED RIGHT HERE.
THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
I CAN SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS.
THERE IS THE WEST ELEVATION AND THE NORTH ELEVATION.
AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION AND THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
AND THEN I HAVE SOME PHOTOS TO SHOW YOU.
HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
HERE IS ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST SAINT
LOUIS.
THIS IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST SAINT LOUIS.
THIS IS, AGAIN, EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON SAINT LOUIS.
AGAIN, EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON SAINT LOUIS.
THIS IS THE WEST END OF THE SITE ON ARMENIA.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF
ARMENIA AND SAINT LOUIS.
SHOWING YOU SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL.
WEST OF THE SITE LOOKING WEST ON WEST SAINT LOUIS ACROSS
FROM ARMENIA.
THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
AGAIN, SHOWING YOU SOME MORE OF THAT COMMERCIAL.
NORTH OF THE SITE, TRANSPLANT MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, SOME MORE OF THE COMMERCIAL
NORTH OF THE SITE, AND THEN SOUTH OF THE SITE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND CLIENT STAFF REVIEWED THE

APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DUE TO TRANSPORTATION'S FINDINGS.
THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
NO WAIVERS TO THE OVERLAY.
THE WAIVERS ARE SECTION 27-283.7 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
PARKING FROM 18 TO 14, WHICH IS A 22% REDUCTION.
27-284.3.3-C REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED 15-FOOT WIDE USE
LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL TO 10-FOOT WIDE
USE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL TO THE EAST.
27-284.3.3 D REQUEST TO REDUCE REQUIRED EIGHT FOOT VUA
LANDSCAPE BUFFER ABUTTING THE ALLEY TO THE SOUTH TO ZERO
FEET.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATIONS
TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET
MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:07:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THIS PROPERTY IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT?
1:07:03AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
YES, SIR.
1:07:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO PORCHES.
ARE PORCHES NOT REQUIRED -- ARE PORCHES NOT REQUIRED IN THIS
TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT?
1:07:16AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE -- I THINK IT'S
BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL -- SORRY, I'M LOOKING THROUGH --
1:07:33AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THEY ARE PROPOSING STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL USE.

IF IT WAS STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL USE, THE PORCHES WOULD BE
INCORPORATED WITHIN THE DESIGN.
THERE ARE CERTAIN STANDARDS WITHIN THE OVERLAY THAT ARE
REQUIRED FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE, LIKE THE TRANSPARENCY, THE
EMBELLISHMENTS ON THE BUILDING THAT WOULD APPLY.
IT'S BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE.
1:07:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY IS
CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL?
1:08:00AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ON THE SITE PLAN, IF SHE'LL PUT UP THE SITE
PLAN.
I THINK MAYBE A THIRD IS COMMERCIAL.
MORE TOWARDS THE PROPERTY ON ARMENIA THAT HAS THE COMMERCIAL
COMPONENT.
THE REST OF THESE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
IT REALLY FALLS IN LINE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING USES
THAT ARE ON ARMENIA, AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SAINT LOUIS
STREET NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL
STARTS IS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL STARTS WITH THE PROPOSED
USE.
ON THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
1:08:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE SETBACK ON SAINT LOUIS?
1:08:44AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ON THE NORTH, THE SETBACK IS 10 FEET.
1:08:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT.
1:09:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.

SAM AREF.
I'M REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THIS PROJECT.
I WANT TO PUT THIS UP.
THIS IS WHAT'S OUT THERE BEFORE FEW MONTHS AGO.
THE BUILDING HAS BEEN DEMOLISHED THROUGH PERMITTING.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WAS OUT THERE.
AND THE REASON FOR THE REZONING IS THIS BARRIER RIGHT HERE,
WHICH IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S ABOUT 40, 41 FEET WIDE.
AND TO INCORPORATE IT INTO THE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL
PROJECT, WE HAD TO REZONE IT TO PD.
IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A SIDEWALK
CONNECTION FROM A PUBLIC STREET.
IT IS SHOWN RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG ARMENIA AND WE'RE
PROVIDING THE CONNECTION.
AS FAR AS THE CORRECTION ON THE SITE DATA SHEET, THIS WITH
.46 ACRES, THAT WAS TAKEN BASED ON THE SURVEY AREA.
BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CORRECT THE SITE DATA SHEET AS WE SEE
FIT OR AS REQUESTED.
IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE
ALLEYWAY.
THIS ALLEYWAY, CURRENTLY YOU CANNOT DRIVE ON IT.
IT'S HEAVILY VEGETATED ON EACH SIDE, SO THE PROPERTY OWNER
IS GOING TO IMPROVE IT FOR THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT.

THERE WOULD BE NO TRAFFIC PARKED ON THE ALLEYWAY.
SO EVERYONE WOULD BE IN THE DRIVEWAY.
EVEN THOUGH CURRENTLY THIS BUSINESS RIGHT HERE, THEY USE IT
FOR PARKING, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONVINCE THEM NOT TO DO
THAT.
I WANT TO ADMIT SOMETHING.
THIS IS MY FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR REZONING.
I THOUGHT WHEN I CAME UP HERE, ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE
HERE WERE GOING TO OBJECT TO THIS PROJECT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
THE SIX, SEVEN HOURS THAT I SAT THERE, I CALMED DOWN BECAUSE
I REALIZED THEY WERE NOT HERE FOR ME.
WITH THAT, SHE DID A GOOD JOB PRESENTING THE PROJECT FOR ME.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:11:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:11:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I FEEL VERY SEEN BECAUSE THERE IS COVERED
BIKE PARKING.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
1:12:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO BET THAT WAS
INTENTIONAL TO BE SEEN BY YOU?
1:12:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW.
I KNOW.
VERY IMPRESSIVE.
YOUR FIRST TIME AND YOU DID ENOUGH RESEARCH TO KNOW I LIKE

COVERED BIKE PARKING.
I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.
IF THERE COULD BE LITTLE OVERHANGS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD
BE NICE.
1:12:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GET IT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND I
GET -- I THINK IT'S INTERESTING WHAT YOU TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH
HERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING HERE THAT REALLY GETS ME TO A
YES IS THAT INTERFACE ON SAINT LOUIS WITH THE PEDESTRIAN,
WITH THE PORCHES OR SOME KIND OF OVERHANG, TO BE ABLE TO --
LaCHONE, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS?
1:12:43AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
FOR THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, A
PORCH IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
NO.
THE SETBACK AND ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT DOOR IS WHAT YOU
MAY BE THINKING OF.
BUT THE PORCH IS NOT REQUIRED.
I WANT TO CLEAR THE RECORD FOR THAT.
1:13:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M PONTIFICATING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I
CAN'T REQUIRE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?

THEY ARE ALL COMING UP TO THE FRONT NOW.
1:13:24AM >> JAMES LASCARA.
I DON'T KNOW THE APPLICANT OR THE PROJECT.
WE'RE BUILDING TWO HOUSES ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM HERE AND WE
WOULD BE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE A PROJECT LIKE THIS GO IN
JUST FOR IMPROVING THE AREA OVERALL.
I THINK BRINGING A SENSE OF WHAT WEST TAMPA REALLY NEEDS
ALONG ARMENIA.
I KNOW ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS ALSO PARKING.
HIS SITE LIES WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA HISTORIC DISTRICT WHICH
CARRIES A REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL
UNIT.
1:13:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NOBODY ELSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:14:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 6, FILE REZ 25-100,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2334 WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET AND 2707 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY

DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CI, COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE/COMMERCIAL, ALL CG USES, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:14:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
1:14:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAS THERE A REVISION SHEET ON THAT?
THERE IS.
INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
1:14:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
1:15:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO.
INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:15:12AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:15:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I NEED A TEN-MINUTE BREAK.
I CAN HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- I'LL HAND THE

GAVEL TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR A MOMENT.
YOU WANT TO DO FIVE MINUTES.
EXECUTIVE DECISION, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
1:22.
[RECESS]
1:24:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:24:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:24:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:24:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:24:56AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
1:24:57AM >> VIERA?
1:24:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
1:25:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M AWAKE.
1:25:04AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:25:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 7, STEPHANIE POPE.
STAFF EXTRAORDINAIRE.
1:25:13AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 7 IS REZ 25-107, REQUEST TO REZONE 3208 AND 3210
NORTH TAMPA STREET FROM RS 50 TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
1:25:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

MEGAN McCARTHY, SWORN IN WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
REZ 25-107.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE E.
SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE R-20 DESIGNATION WITH
R-10 TO THE WEST AND FURTHER TO THE EAST THE CC-35
DESIGNATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR ENHANCED UTILIZATION OF THE
LAND CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE R-20
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS PD PROPOSES A DENSITY OF 17.64 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS SEEKING TO PROMOTE COMPATIBLE
REDEVELOPMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENSURE ECONOMIC HEALTH AND
ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND IS PLANNED FOR THE CITY'S GROWING
POPULATION.
GIVEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA,
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CONCLUDES THAT THE REQUEST WILL

MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER AND ALIGN WELL WITH
THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER ALONG NORTH TAMPA STREET AND WEST
26th AVENUE.
IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFILL HOUSING ON AN
UNDERUTILIZED PARCEL WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE
CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:27:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
PLANNING COMMISSION?
HEARING NONE, MS. POPE.
1:27:25AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE A REVISED STAFF REPORT THAT HAS
CHANGES ON PAGE 1 AND PAGE 5.
STAFF FINDINGS ARE CONSISTENT, HOWEVER THE REPORT STATES ON
PAGE 1 NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF'S FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
THIS WAS A TYPING MISTAKE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED
AS STAFF'S FINDINGS WERE CONSISTENT.
THE CORRECTION ON PAGE 5 IS TO THE GREENSPACE CALCULATIONS
PROVIDED, HAS BEEN REVISED TO SHOW 2,813 SQUARE FEET
REQUIRED AND 5,028 SQUARE FEET PROVIDED.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH TAMPA STREET, JUST SOUTH OF WEST
26th STREET.
HERE IS TAMPA.
HERE IS 26th.
THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE SUBJECT
SITE IS COMPRISED OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS WITH RS 50
ZONING TO THE WEST, SOUTH, AND EAST, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THERE IS A PD APPROVED IN 1997 FOR OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH
RIGHT HERE AND THEN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF
THAT AND FOR THOSE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG TAMPA.
FURTHER NORTH IS ZONED RM 16 AND RM 18.
AS YOU MOVE FURTHER SOUTH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME RECENT PDs
THAT WERE APPROVED.
HERE IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
HERE YOU HAVE WEST 26th AND TAMPA STREET THERE.
APPLICANT PROPOSES A SINGLE STRUCTURE CONTAINING SIX
RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION ALONG TAMPA
STREET HERE.
VEHICLE ACCESS IS THROUGH A TWO-WAY DRIVE AISLE WITH ACCESS
OFF OF 26th AVENUE.
SIX-FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED ADJACENT TO WEST 26th
STREET AND AN EXISTING FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK IS ALONG NORTH
TAMPA STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE SIDEWALKS HERE.

THERE ARE TWO-CAR GARAGES, AND THERE ARE ALSO TWO GUEST
PARKING SPACES.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY.
I WILL SHOW YOU SOME ELEVATIONS.
HERE IS THE WEST AND NORTH ELEVATION, AND THEN THE EAST AND
SOUTH ELEVATION.
NEXT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
HERE IS THE SITE LOOKING NORTH DOWN TAMPA STREET.
THIS IS THE SITE LOOKING SOUTH DOWN TAMPA STREET.
THIS IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE LOOKING WEST.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ACROSS TAMPA STREET, AND THEN THIS IS
ALSO LOOKING EAST ACROSS TAMPA STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE PD ACROSS WEST 26th AVENUE, AND
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH AT A SITE ACROSS WEST -- AT THE SITE
FROM ACROSS WEST 26th STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DOWN NORTH TAMPA STREET AND THEN THIS
IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE IS ONE WAIVER AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
THE WAIVER IS TO SECTION 27,284.3.3 REQUEST TO REDUCE
REQUIRED EIGHT FOOT VUA LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO ZERO FOOT
ABUTTING THE ALLEY TO THE SOUTH.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

1:31:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
1:31:56AM >> JIM LASCARA, POSEIDON25 DEVELOPMENTS.
WE RECEIVED RESOUNDINGLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS.
THE SITE MARKED IN BLACK DOT.
THE NEIGHBORS THAT ENGAGED WITH US THAT EXPRESSED SUPPORT.
I THINK ALL EXCEPT ONE LETTER IS IN SUPPORT.
THOSE ARE MARKED IN GREEN.
A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM NEIGHBORS.
THIS REQUEST SUPPORTS THOUGHTFUL GROWTH NEAR THE URBAN CORE
LEADING STRAIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN.
EXCITED TO HEAR THE FINDING OF CONSISTENCY.
THE ALLEY, THE WAIVER FOR THE ALLEY, THE ALLEY IS PLATTED AS
TEN FOOT.
IT'S NOT USABLE.
NOT IN USE.
THOSE ARE PHOTOS I TOOK ACTUALLY TODAY OF THE ALLEY.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, I AM REQUESTING TO CHANGE
THE HEIGHT FROM 35-FOOT TO 40-FOOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE ROOF PITCH AS PART OF THE DESIGN.
I THINK THE MOST CONSIDERATE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GO UP TO
40-FOOT IN HEIGHT.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:33:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

1:33:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SEE LIKE A WHITE VINYL FENCE, HAS THAT
BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY?
1:33:24AM >> IT WAS REMOVED.
IT WAS ACTUALLY STOLEN THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF SEVERAL
MONTHS SOMEHOW.
1:33:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DID YOU HAVE ISSUES ON THAT PROPERTY
WITH VAGRANTS AND PEOPLE --
1:33:33AM >> YES, SIR.
WE HAD TO DO A TRESPASSING NOTICE WITH THE POLICE PRIOR TO
US ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY, THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD ABOUT 60
VEHICLES PARKED THERE.
CODE VIOLATION ABOUT 13 YEARS.
1:33:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO --
IS THERE AN ABANDONED HOME BEHIND THERE, BOARDED UP HOME
BEHIND THERE ON 26th, IS THAT HOME OCCUPIED OR VACANT?
1:33:58AM >> NO, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS VACANT SIR.
THERE IS A PRIMARY HOME AND KIND OF LIKE A DETACHED GARAGE,
ADU THAT'S PART OF IT.
1:34:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
1:34:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BESIDES WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED US, DO YOU HAVE
LIKE ANY RENDERINGS OR WHAT YOU PLAN TO PUT?
1:34:23AM >> I DO HAVE A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING.
THAT WOULD BE THE VIEW FROM NORTH TAMPA STREET.
1:34:35AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DID YOU EVER CONSIDER PORCHES?
1:34:41AM >> THERE ARE PORCHES.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE SIX-FOOT PROJECTIONS.
1:35:02AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DON'T LOVE THE ELEVATIONS, BUT MY FAVORITE
DESIGNS ARE THE ONES BY LEE GROCERIES.
I ALWAYS KIND OF LOOK TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE IT FIT INTO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:35:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:35:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO AGREE.
THE PITCH OF THE ROOF IS WEIRD.
IT JUST LOOKS WEIRD.
1:35:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BLACK.
1:35:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAYBE.
1:35:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT'S IN RELATION TO THE LINES AND
EVERYTHING.
1:35:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I ASK A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN?
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
DOES THIS PICTURE REFLECT WHAT CHANGES YOU ARE REQUESTING
THAT BRING IT TO 40?
1:35:51AM >> YES, SIR.
SO THERE IS NOT A PITCH REQUIREMENT IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
OVERLAY.
I WOULD PREFER -- I THINK THE MOST THOUGHTFUL DESIGN FOR
THIS IS TO HAVE A PITCHED ROOF AND TO DO THAT MOST
EFFECTIVELY, THAT WOULD BE THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE TO
40-FOOT IN HEIGHT.
1:36:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I TEND TO AGREE BECAUSE AT LEAST IT'S NOT

FLAT.
1:36:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM, BUT LET'S GO
BACK TO THE ALLEY.
ON THE OTHER SITE PLAN, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE YOU HAD PORCHES,
SO I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT AS AN ISSUE.
BUT NOW THAT YOU PRESENTED THIS AND COMMITTED TO DESIGN A
PORCH ELEMENT, I'M HAPPY WITH THAT.
I WAS CURIOUS WHY YOU WEREN'T UTILIZING THE ALLEY.
YOU COULD DO A ONE-WAY STREET, PUSH THE UNITS BACK A LITTLE
BIT, GET YOU MORE SPACE ON THE FRONT TO DO A PORCH.
WHY -- I KNOW IT'S TEN FEET, WHY AREN'T YOU IMPROVING THE
ALLEY?
1:36:52AM >> GREAT QUESTION.
WE MET WITH F.D.O.T.
THEIR REQUEST WAS THAT THE MINIMUM VEHICLE TRAFFIC THAT
UNLOADED INTO NORTH TAMPA STREET WOULD BE THE PREFERRED WAY.
I ALSO MET WITH THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THEY
SHARE THAT SENTIMENT.
I WILL SAY PULLING OUT OF THE SITE TODAY, I ALMOST GOT
REAR-ENDED BY SOMEBODY DOING 50 DOWN NORTH TAMPA STREET, AND
I PULLED OUT FROM THE ALLEY.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD SENTIMENT IS VEHICLE INGRESS AND EGRESS
THROUGH 26th AVENUE IS THE SAFEST AND MOST CONFORMING TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS.

1:37:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAMPA STREET IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT
STREET FOR TRANSIT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING SOME DENSITY
HERE.
I LIKE THE FORWARD-FACING UNITS.
YOU ARE KIND OF INCORPORATING EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK AS YOU BEEF THIS UP WITH SOME PORCH ELEMENT, I KNOW
THIS IS YOUR CONCEPTUAL IDEA, HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU COME BACK
THE SECOND TIME AROUND WE'LL SEE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE
ACCURATE THAT YOU'LL BUILD, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
1:37:56AM >> YES, SIR.
1:37:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING ELSE?
SAW YOU REACHING FOR THE MICROPHONE.
1:38:02AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I APPRECIATE THE WINDOWS AS WELL.
I ALSO LIKE THE FRONT FACING, BECAUSE I DRIVE PAST THIS AREA
ALL THE TIME.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING WINDOWS.
1:38:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES, PREPPING FOR
THIS, I WAS KIND OF LIKE A 50-50 ON THIS ONE.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
I APPRECIATE -- [INAUDIBLE] -- I UNDERSTAND THE ALLEY.
BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ALLEY.
ANYTHING ELSE?
HEARING NOTHING, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK

TO THE ITEM?
STEPHANIE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
1:38:41AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT YOU WANTED
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, HE'S GOING TO ADD CHANGE
THE ELEVATION TO 40 FEET, AND HE'S GOING TO SUBMIT THIS --
1:38:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL.
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING BACK SOMETHING AT SECOND
READING THAT IS IN LIGHT OF HAVING ACTIVATED FRONT PORCH.
I WOULD LOOK TOWARD RIOS STUFF BEING BUILT JUST SOUTH OF
THERE AND HIS FACADES AS INSPIRATION BECAUSE I THINK THE
PORCH INSPIRATION THAT HE'S BRINGING IS VERY THOUGHTFUL.
THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.
I'M NOT HERE TO DESIGN THE PROJECT.
IF YOU WANT A SMILE AND TWO THUMBS UP.
1:39:30AM >> WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.
WE'LL BRING THAT TO SECOND READING, SIR.
1:39:35AM >> YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE PORCH AND HEIGHT INCREASE AND
ELEVATION.
1:39:39AM >> YEAH, I'LL DO A NEW RENDERING WITH A MORE PRONOUNCED
FRONT PORCH.
1:39:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
RICKY, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO ADD?
1:39:50AM >> RICKY PETERIKA, 308 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN SWORN.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I COMPLETED AN ALLEY AUDIT IN TAMPA

HEIGHTS JUST TO KNOW AND HAVE A SENSE OF THE QUALITY OF OUR
ALLEYS.
I AGREE THAT THIS IS A CHALLENGING ONE FROM POPPING IN AND
OUT OF SEVERAL OF THESE ALLEYS OFF OF TAMPA AND FLORIDA, BUT
I WOULD ASK IN OTHER CASES, WHERE, ESPECIALLY IN TAMPA
HEIGHTS, WHERE AN ALLEY MAY BE A DESIGN ELEMENT, URBAN FORM
DRIVER THAT YOU PROVIDE OR ASK EXTRA SCRUTINY ON HOW WE
COULD IMPROVE THE ALLEYS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT ASSET, BOTH FROM
ARCHITECTURALLY AND FROM A TREE PERSPECTIVE, THEY UNLOCK
POSSIBILITIES FOR SHADE WHERE WE WANT IT VERSUS -- NOT HERE.
FINE.
1:40:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DO THIS FOR YOUR FIRM?
1:40:53AM >> NO, I DID IT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY.
1:40:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
1:40:58AM >> I'VE GOT A MAP IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT.
1:41:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DO.
SAM, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, MAKE SURE WE GET THAT, PLEASE.
1:41:05AM >> THANK YOU.
1:41:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WERE NOT GOING TO CLOSE OFF THAT END,
CORRECT?
IF SOMEBODY ELSE DEVELOPS AND THEY WANT TO USE THAT ALLEY,
IT STILL EVENTUALLY IN THE FUTURE COULD BE UTILIZED?
1:41:19AM >> WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS OFF SITE OF OUR PROPERTY, A

NEIGHBOR HAS PUT UP A FENCE, PRIOR TO ME ACQUIRING THE
PROPERTY, THERE WAS A FENCE RIGHT HERE.
1:41:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FENCES CAN COME DOWN.
THEY CAN COME DOWN.
1:41:32AM >> SURE, SURE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK, WHICH IS HIGHLAND, THAT
ALLEY IS IN USE.
ABOUT THREE HOUSES AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY EAST, THERE IS A LOT
OF OVERGROWTH.
NO INTENTION ON OUR END TO CLOSE OFF THE ALLEY.
THERE ARE OBSTRUCTIONS AND THINGS THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE PUT
IN.
I BELIEVE THAT THE PRIOR OWNER -- THE PRIOR OWNER TO US
ACQUIRING IT HAD BLOCKED IT OFF AND KEPT OUT I THINK WHAT
SOME NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT.
SOME PEOPLE PASSING IN THE NIGHT IN THE ALLEY.
SO I THINK THAT IS THE REASON WHY THERE'S NOW STUFF IN THE
ALLEY.
ONE NEIGHBOR, THIS NEIGHBOR IN PARTICULAR, THE ONE THAT
LIVES HERE, WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT ENCOURAGING OUR
PROJECT, BUT SHE HOPED THAT BLOCKING OUT THE ALLEY WOULD BE
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE.
I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT.
1:42:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SIT NEXT TO SOMEBODY WHO LIKES TO WALK
THROUGH ALLEYS.

VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
NOBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVEN'T READ ONE YET.
DO YOU WANT TO READ IT?
GO AHEAD.
KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.
IT'S YOUR AREA.
1:43:13AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ 25-107, ORDINANCE BEING -- SORRY.
FILE REZ 25-107, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 3208 AND 3210 NORTH TAMPA STREET, IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE,
INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.

1:43:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:44:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND INCLUDING THE 40-FOOT CHANGE, HEIGHT
CHANGE.
THAT'S NOT ON THE REVISION SHEET.
HE JUST ASKED FOR THAT.
1:44:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE'LL COME BACK
WITH ANOTHER RENDERING.
1:44:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
1:44:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:44:25AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:44:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
OCHO.
1:44:43AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
GOOD MORNING.
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 8 IS REZ 25-110.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 3219 WEST ARCH STREET FROM RS 50

TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER NOW TO PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
1:45:08AM >> MEGAN McCARTHY WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS IS REZ 25-110.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND
THE MIDTOWN TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE E.
THIS PORTION OF WEST ARCH STREET SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT
SITE BETWEEN NORTH LINCOLN AVENUE AND NORTH MATANZAS AVENUE
IS PRIMARILY DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS
IMMEDIATELY NORTH TO THE SUBJECT SITE IS INTERSTATE 275.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE R-10 FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION, AND THAT PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY SURROUNDS THE
SUBJECT SITE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR ENHANCED UTILIZATION OF THE LAND
CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE R-10
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE PD PROPOSES A DENSITY OF JUST OVER NINE UNITS PER ACRE,
WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS SEEKING TO PROMOTE COMPATIBLE

DEVELOPMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO ENSURE ECONOMIC HEALTH AND
THAT AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND IS PLANNED FOR THE CITY'S
GROWING POPULATION.
GIVEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA,
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF CONCLUDES THAT THE REQUEST WILL
MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER AND ALIGN WELL WITH
THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER ALONG WEST ARCH STREET.
IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFILL HOUSING ON
UNDERUTILIZED PARCEL CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
1:46:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, NEXT.
1:47:08AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
BEFORE YOU IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST ARCH STREET.
IT'S LOCATED EAST OF NORTH LINCOLN AVENUE, AND IT IS LOCATED
EAST OF NORTH MATANZAS AVENUE.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED DWELLING UNIT.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THE CREATION OF TWO LOTS FOR THE

CONSTRUCTION OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNITS.
THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE COMPRISED OF
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNITS, ALL ZONED RS 50 TO
THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST.
WE HAVE A SITE PLAN FROM THE APPLICANT.
SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 9,800 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, AS I MENTIONED, TWO SEPARATE
LOTS ON EACH LOT THEY ARE PROPOSING A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
DWELLING UNIT.
EACH DWELLING UNIT PROVIDES A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH
INGRESS/EGRESS ALONG WEST ARCH STREET.
ADDITIONALLY, THE FRONT DOORS FOR EACH UNIT ARE ORIENTED TO
WEST ARCH STREET.
NEXT WE HAVE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.
THESE ARE FOR PARCEL A.
THERE IS A PROPOSED HEIGHT OF 31 FEET FOR THESE ELEVATIONS.
NEXT WE HAVE PARCEL B, PROPOSED HEIGHT HERE IS 29 FEET.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
I DO HAVE SOME PHOTOS TO SHOW.
WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SOUTH.
ONE ADDITIONAL PHOTO FOR THE SOUTH.
EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
WEST.

THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST ARCH STREET.
AND LASTLY LOOKING WEST ON ARCH STREET.
REVIEWED THE APPLICATION.
WE FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE
COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE
AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:49:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
1:49:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FRED HENRY.
DOMAIN HOMES, 3104 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, SUITE 2, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33607.
I'VE BEEN SWORN.
GREAT WORKING WITH STAFF.
THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
1:50:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO
WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU WANT TO READ THIS ONE?
1:50:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 8, REZ 25-110, FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3219 WEST ARCH STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO
PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALONG WITH ANY OTHER REVISION SHEETS.
1:50:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:51:02AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:51:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE COOKING NOW.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU COME FROM TO

WALK IN AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING?
ARE YOU HERE FOR TOMORROW MORNING'S MEETING?
[ LAUGHTER ]
LET'S GO.
1:51:34AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
THIS IS REZ 25-111 REQUEST TO REZONE 802 AND 804 EAST
FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND 3003 NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE FROM RS 50
TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
1:52:03AM >> MEGAN McCARTHY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
OUR NEXT CASE IS REZ 25-111.
LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND THE VM YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN EVACUATION ZONE E.
THIS PORTION OF EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE BETWEEN NORTH
NEBRASKA AVENUE AND NORTH TALIAFERRO AVENUE INCLUDES A
MIXTURE OF LIGHT COMMERCIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND TWO FAMILY
USES.
COMMERCIAL USES ARE CONCENTRATED TO THE EAST ALONG NORTH
NEBRASKA AVENUE WITH SOME PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC USES TO THE
NORTHWEST ALONG NORTH TALIAFERRO AVENUE.
DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS INTERSTATE 275.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION.

YOU CAN SEE THAT TO THE NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST IS THE
RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND
FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR ENHANCED UTILIZATION OF THE
LAND CONSISTENT WITH THE CMU 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY COMMUNITY
MIXED USE 35 SUPPORTS RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, AND SERVICE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
DUE TO MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL ALONG
FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF DETERMINED CG ZONING DISTRICT SUPPORTS
DEVELOPMENT BOTH COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED, THE SUBJECT SITE HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OF AN UNDERUTILIZED
PARCEL WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE, CONSISTENT WITH
THE PLAN.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
1:53:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF?
HEARING NONE, NEXT.
1:53:58AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THREE PARCELS OUTLINED IN RED.
SUBJECT ON NORTH SIDE OF EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE, ALSO
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE.
IT IS LOCATED WEST OF NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
LOOKING AT THE SITE OVERALL, THE SITE IS UNDEVELOPED.
TO THE NORTH WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS ZONED
RS 50.
TO THE EAST OF SUBJECT SITE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING,
ALONG NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE, SOUTH WE HAVE CG ZONING
COMPRISED OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLING UNITS.
AND WE HAVE CG ZONING TO THE WEST ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH
MITCHELL AVENUE.
WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS HERE.
I DID FORGET TO MENTION THAT THIS PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF
THE SUBJECT SITE IS A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, CHECKERS.
SITE IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
NEXT, I HAVE A SURVEY.
SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
APPROXIMATELY 118 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE ALONG EAST
FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND 118 STREET FRONTAGE ALONG NORTH
MITCHELL AVENUE.
GIVEN THE SURROUNDED USES, REQUESTED USE OF CG ZONING IS
APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION AND DOES PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE
TRANSITION WITH SURROUNDING PARCELS.

WE DO HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
START OFF FIRST WITH A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING FROM NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE, IMMEDIATELY
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE,
LOOKING ACROSS EAST FLORIBRASKA.
THERE IS THE CHECKERS FOR THE CHAIRMAN.
TO THE EAST --
1:56:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY CAR AUTOMATICALLY DRIVES INTO THAT
DRIVE-THROUGH.
I TRY TO STOP IT, BUT IT OVERRIDES ME.
1:56:18AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
WEST OF SUBJECT SITE WE HAVE THE
MULTIPLE FAMILY.
THIS IS ACROSS NORTH MITCHELL LOOKING AT THE MULTIPLE FAMILY
SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON NORTH MITCHELL.
SOUTH ON NORTH MITCHELL.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THIS IS SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS SITE IS ZONED RM 24.
I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL PHOTO KIND OF SHOWING THE NEIGHBORHOOD
BACK NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE ARE NO SITE PLANS OR
ELEVATIONS TO SHOW YOU.

AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED
THE APPLICATION.
WE FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:57:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS, HEARING NONE.
NEXT.
1:57:10AM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
1:57:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
1:57:13AM >> OH, YEAH, SORRY.
I'M REALLY OUT OF PRACTICE BEING UP THIS LATE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
CATHERINE COYLE, BOGGS ENGINEERING, 607 SOUTH ALEXANDER
STREET, PLANT CITY.
I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
I'LL BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S LATE OR
EARLY.
STAFF WENT THROUGH THE COMP PLAN AND THE FUTURE LAND USE
MAP.
WHAT I HIGHLIGHTED HERE, 13,924 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
CC-35 -- SORRY, CMU 35, THAT IS AN ERROR ON MY THING.
CMU 35 ALLOWS 30 UNITS PER ACRE AND 1.0 F.A.R. BY STANDARD,
BY RIGHT, NOT WITH ANY BONUS OR ANYTHING.
AND THIS IS EUCLIDEAN, CG.
THAT'S NINE UNITS MAXIMUM ON THE SITE.

SPECIFICALLY IN THE CG, JUST AS A REMINDER, IF THE APPLICANT
WANTED TO DO RESIDENTIAL IN THE FUTURE UNDER CG, IT IS STILL
A SPECIAL USE ONE.
HAVE TO GO AND GET ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
MUCH LIKE WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH NEXT DOOR, IN ORDER TO DO A
DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, S-2, IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU
ANYWAY.
AND THE CMU 35 ALLOWS THE 1.0 F.A.R. IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA
IS THE STANDARD RATE.
13,924 SQUARE FEET.
I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONSISTENCY MATRIX IN THE CODE.
SECTION 27-21, THIS IS ACTUALLY IN THE CODE.
WHAT IT DOES IT TELLS YOU WHICH ZONING DISTRICTS ARE
ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHICH CATEGORIES.
TELLS YOU WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ASK FOR.
IN THE CMU 35, YOU CAN SEE THAT CG IS CONSISTENT WITH THE X
AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, THERE IS A DOT HERE FOR RS 50, THE
CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT.
WHEN YOU READ THE ACTUAL FOOTNOTE FOR THAT, IT DISCOURAGES
THAT ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS CATEGORY.
REZONING TO THIS CLASSIFICATION ARE DISCOURAGED.
IT'S NOT THAT IT IS INCOMPATIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT IS
DESIRABLE ESSENTIALLY FOR CMU 35.
THE HISTORICAL USE OF THE SITE -- I PROMISED HER I WOULD
MENTION IT -- OUR OLD FRIEND GLORIA MOREDA GREW UP IN THIS

BUILDING.
THIS WAS HER FAMILY HOMESTEAD.
SHE LIVED UPSTAIRS AND THERE IS A BUSINESS DOWN STAIRS.
THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT A LONG TIME AGO.
A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AGO.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT WE WOULD
CALL IT TODAY.
IT DID HAVE A FIRE AND WAS TORN DOWN.
THIS IS THE STREET VIEW FROM 2021, GOOGLE STREET VIEW.
IT WAS TORN DOWN BY ORDER, ACTUALLY, IN FEBRUARY 2022, ABOUT
A YEAR AFTER THIS.
THE SURROUNDING USES WERE MENTIONED, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, THE
BUILDINGS IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO THE WEST OF THOSE THREE
APARTMENT BUILDINGS, AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR UNITS IN
EACH, SO THERE ARE 12 UNITS ON THAT SITE.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY JUST A HAIR BIGGER, 15,000 SQUARE
FEET, AND THE BUILDINGS COMBINED ARE A LITTLE OVER 9300
SQUARE FEET.
THERE IS ONE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE NORTH.
THERE ARE TWO DOWN HERE.
THIS ONE HERE, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER
RECORDS, THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY LISTED AS A TRIPLEX WITH THREE
UNITS AND ACTUALLY HAS THREE MAILBOXES AND THEN THE
DRIVE-THROUGH NEXT DOOR.
THE PICTURES WERE SHOWN, SO I WON'T SHOW THEM AGAIN.

JUST BRIEFLY, EUCLIDEAN DISTRICT, OBVIOUSLY NO SITE PLAN,
OBVIOUSLY NO WAIVERS.
NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL PROVISIONS.
NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL ALLOWANCES.
NO BONUS PROVISIONS BEING REQUESTED.
THE SITE DOES LIE WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, SO THE
PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE ENHANCED STANDARDS AS WELL.
THE HISTORICAL USE OF THE SITE WAS MIXED USE.
ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MUST COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND THE
EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
2:01:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
YES, SIR.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:01:38AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TODAY.
I KNOW WHAT A JOURNEY IT'S BEEN.
I LIVE IN THE ONE HOUSE I GUESS THAT ABUTS THE PROPERTY.
BEEN IN MY FAMILY THROUGH THE YEARS.
FIRST MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE AND NOW I LIVE THERE WITH MY
MOTHER.
WE HAVE SEEN THE TRANSITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I REMEMBER WHEN THERE WERE TWO HOUSES IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR,
WHICH WERE SINCE DEMOLISHED AND HELD BY DEVELOPERS.

IT'S VERY HARD TO DEVELOP THAT LAND BECAUSE THOSE
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE ON SORT OF SMALL PLOTS, SO WE ALWAYS
KNEW IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE GIVEN THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT
OCCURRING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SURE ENOUGH, I GUESS WE CALL IT LIKE A HALFWAY HOUSE, THE
LARGE BUILDING NEXT TO THE CHECKERS WAS ALWAYS
QUASI-COMMERCIAL.
THE TWO, THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT I CAN'T SORT OF SUPPORT
REZONING THOSE COMMERCIAL AND COMBINING ALL OF THOSE
PROPERTIES INTO ONE BIG LOT.
IT'S QUITE A BIG PIECE OF LAND.
I FEEL LIKE IF YOU REZONE ALL OF THAT COMMERCIAL, THE
POTENTIAL TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT WILL GO
THERE, I THINK IT SORT OF OPENS UP.
I THINK THE AREA NEEDS MORE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
THERE IS ENOUGH LAND THERE WITHOUT THOSE TWO LOTS TO SUPPORT
A DEVELOPMENT.
THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET HAS BEEN THERE, I
MEAN, MY AUNT RAISED CHILDREN IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
BEEN AT LEAST 30 YEARS.
WE JUST HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BUILT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO I THINK THE COMPATIBILITY, THE HEIGHT, WITHOUT KNOWING
WHAT WILL BE THERE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND FROM MY POSITION,
LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH A
CHECKERS.

UNFORTUNATE TO LIVE NEXT TO CHECKERS.
YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR ANXIETY ABOUT ANOTHER POTENTIAL LARGE
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON FLORIBRASKA,
ABANDONED, UNDEVELOPED.
BIG LOT RIGHT ON FLORIBRASKA AND NEBRASKA THAT'S BEEN FOR
SALE FOR YEARS.
THERE'S VACANT STOREFRONTS.
PLENTY OF COMMERCIAL LAND THAT'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED.
I DON'T SEE HOW THIS WOULD BE A SPUR FOR DEVELOPMENT WHEN
THERE ARE PLENTY OF VACANT EMPTY LOTS BEING DEVELOPED.
THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED ON HEIGHTS, THE
GENTLEMAN MENTIONED HEIGHTS.
CONSULTING WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
AGAIN, NO PLANS HERE.
WE HEARD ZERO FROM THE OWNERS OF THIS LAND AND NO CONTACT,
AND WE LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
I THINK THAT'S MY TIME.
THANK YOU.
2:04:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:04:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MY
QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO BE HERE?
2:04:33AM >> CATHERINE COYLE, FOR THE RECORD.

ACTUALLY, NO, NOT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT THEIR INTENT I BELIEVE IS, FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH
THEM IS SOME SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING USE.
I KNOW HE SAID ASSEMBLING A LARGE PARCEL, THIS ACTUALLY BY
LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS THE ORIGINAL PLATTED LOT.
IT'S LOT TWO OF THAT BLOCK, BLOCK THREE.
IT'S REALLY ASSEMBLING THE ORIGINAL LOT THAT WAS PLATTED.
AND AS FAR AS THE SIZE, THIS IS JUST OVER WHAT IS ACTUALLY
ALLOWED FOR CG.
IT IS 118 BY 118.
FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT VERY LARGE.
ONCE YOU PUT A BUILDING ON THERE, ALTHOUGH IT WOULD ALLOW
13,000 SQUARE FEET, WHEN YOU BACK IN THE PARKING, THE
PARKING ALONE JUST FOR NINE SPACES WITH THE DRIVE AISLE
TAKES UP 6,048 SQUARE FEET ALONE.
ADJACENT TO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO A
15-FOOT BUFFER WITH SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL.
THERE WILL BE A VERY LARGE BUFFER IN THE BACK AND MASONRY
WALL BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAIVER REQUESTED.
HE HAS TO MEET CODE.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DRIVE-THROUGH.
THAT MARKET WOULDN'T ALLOW TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS IN THAT
PARTICULAR AREA.
THERE'S NO INTENT FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH FROM WHAT I

UNDERSTAND.
THE LAST THING I SAW IN DISCUSSING WITH HIM, HE WAS LOOKING
AT MAYBE A LITTLE, SOME TYPE OF LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD
RESTAURANT IS WHAT HE WAS LOOKING AT.
2:05:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD RECOMMEND TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS
PASSES, EITHER WAY, MAKE SURE, GET HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
2:06:04AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
WE DID HAVE ONE PHONE CALL FROM THE GUY ACROSS THE STREET
WITH ONE OF THE HOUSES IN THE MIDDLE THAT ALSO HAD A FIRE.
AND HE WAS HAPPY TO SEE IT COME.
THAT WAS THE ONLY CALL WE GOT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO SPEAK TO HIM.
2:06:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S ALL I WOULD REQUEST.
THANK YOU.
2:06:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I'LL SPEAK TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT HAS THE CONCERN.
THE PROBLEM IS WE LOOK AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES AND AS
THAT DEVELOPING THAT PROPERTY, KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO GO IN
THIS DIRECTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL.

WE DO HAVE ENOUGH SAFETY MEASURES BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM, WE
GET INTO -- SPECIAL USE PERMISSIONS ON THIS THING.
OBVIOUSLY SHE COMMITTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
MAYBE SHE CAN FILL YOU IN ON THE GAPS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WHO WANTS TO READ THIS ONE?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO CLOSE, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:07:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 802 AND 804 EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND
3003 NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WAS THERE A REVISION SHEET WITH THIS ONE?
NO.
2:07:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CLERK.

2:07:44AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5th,
2026 AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
2:08:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
10.
2:08:04AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 IS REZ 25-117.
REQUEST TO REZONE 4202 WEST SPRUCE STREET FROM RS 50 AND PD
TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY USES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
2:08:27AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
I WAS SWORN IN.
THIS REZONING IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING
DISTRICT.
IT IS WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER AND THE CARVER
CITY LINCOLN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN EVACUATION ZONE C.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST SPRUCE STREET AND
NORTH LOIS AVENUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS AREA IS RATHER URBAN IN CHARACTER.
THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING HERE, WHICH IS FIVE STORIES.

THIS IS A HOTEL HERE WHICH I BELIEVE IS FIVE STORIES AS
WELL.
WE HAVE A CONDOMINIUM -- WE HAVE CONDOMINIUMS TO THE NORTH.
THERE IS IMMEDIATE TRANSITION OFF THE CORRIDOR TO
SINGLE-FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RMU 100
DESIGNATION.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND-MOST INTENSIVE MIXED USE CATEGORY IN
THE CITY, SECOND TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
IT ALLOWS UP TO 100 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, UP TO 3.5
F.A.R.
THAT IS THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE PATTERN ALONG WEST SPRUCE
STREET AND NORTH LOIS, NORTH OF WEST GREEN STREET.
DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, WE DO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE TRANSITION TO
THE RESIDENTIAL 10.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND
IT CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A MIX OF OFFICE RETAIL MULTIFAMILY
USES ALONG WEST SPRUCE STREET, ALL WITHIN THE RMU 100
DESIGNATION.
TO THE SOUTH, THE RMU 100 DESIGNATION TRANSITIONS TO THE
R-10, WHICH CONTAINS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO ENSURE
SENSITIVITY TO THESE HOMES, THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY

BUILDING STEPS DOWN FROM 7 STORIES ALONG WEST SPRUCE STREET
TO FIVE STORIES ALONG THE SOUTHERN FACADE.
THE HEIGHT IS COMPARABLE WITH THE ADJACENT BUILDING TO THE
WEST AT 4210 WEST SPRUCE STREET, WHICH IS FIVE STORIES.
AND THAT WAS APPROVED UNDER REZ 12-23.
ADDITIONALLY, A 35-FOOT SETBACK ALONG WITH THE 6-FOOT
CONCRETE WALL AND A 15-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS PROVIDED
BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
TO THE SOUTH.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS TRANSITIONS IN BUILDING
HEIGHTS WITHIN MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS BETWEEN HIGH
AND LOW INTENSITY AREAS.
AS THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TRANSITION THAT WOULD BE
SUPPORTED.
THE REQUEST SUPPORTS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES FOR HEIGHT
TRANSITIONS AND INCORPORATES PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN
THROUGH SIDEWALKS.
SIDEWALKS ARE ALONG WEST SPRUCE STREET AND NORTH LOIS AVENUE
AND WALK-UP UNITS ARE PROVIDED.
A PROPOSED HART BUS PAD AND SHELTER ALONG NORTH LOIS AVENUE
WILL ENCOURAGE FUTURE TRANSIT USE, SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE
WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER.
FINALLY, THE REQUEST SUPPORTS THE CITY'S PLANNING AND
HOUSING STRATEGIES BY PROVIDING HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN
THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS CENTER WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY THE

PLAN.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
2:11:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. POPE.
2:12:01AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I'LL FIRST PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED A REZONING PEREZ
24-78 FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS 50 AND PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE
CONSTRUCTION OF 313 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS.
ON APRIL 10 OF 2025, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DENIED THE
APPLICATION WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE OF 4-2.
REZ 24-78 REQUESTED SIX WAIVERS.
ON AUGUST 4, 2025, THE APPLICANT FILED A REQUEST WITH THE
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR CONSIDERATION TO WAIVE THE 12 MONTH
REQUIREMENT FOR THE REFILING OF A REZONING APPLICATION WITH
SUBMITTAL OF A NEW SITE PLAN.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND APPROVED THE
WAIVER OF THE 12 MONTH PERIOD FOR SUBMITTAL OF A NEW
APPLICATION FOR REZONING BASED UPON THE APPLICANT
REDESIGNING THE PROJECT TO COMPLY WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE AND REMOVING ALL REQUESTS FOR ANY WAIVERS.
NOW I'LL START WITH AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THAT IS ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST SPRUCE AND NORTH
LOIS.
THERE IS LOIS AND SPRUCE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY AND OFFICE
TO THE NORTH.
MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST AND WEST AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
HOMES TO THE SOUTH.
AND THOSE ARE SHOWN DOWN HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE PDs IN THE AREA, AND
THERE ARE SEVERAL LARGE SCALE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE AREA AS WELL.
NEXT I'LL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH A
SINGLE MID-RISE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 345
DWELLING UNITS.
THE PROPOSED MASSING TRANSITIONS IN HEIGHT FROM NORTH TO
SOUTH.
AND JUST TO ORIENT US, THIS IS WEST SPRUCE HERE, AND THIS IS
LOIS.
THE PROPOSED MASSING TRANSITIONS IN HEIGHT FROM NORTH TO
SOUTH ALONG SPRUCE STREET, THE BUILDING REACHES A MAXIMUM
HEIGHT OF 80 FEET OR SEVEN STORIES WHILE THE SOUTHERN
PORTION THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IS SET
BACK 65 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM

HEIGHT OF 50 FEET OR FOUR STORIES.
GROUND FLOOR WALK-UP UNITS ARE PROPOSED ALONG THE STREET
FRONTAGES, HERE AND HERE.
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURED GARAGE IS LOCATED ON WEST
SPRUCE STREET.
TWO BUILDING ENTRANCES ON WEST SPRUCE AND A BUILDING
ENTRANCE ON LOIS AVENUE WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM
EACH ENTRANCE TO THE PROPOSED EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG
WEST SPRUCE STREET AND LOIS AVENUE.
A HART BUS SHELTER IS PROPOSED ON NORTH LOIS, AND THEN A
SMALL 400-FOOT PUBLIC OPEN SPACE IS PROPOSED AT THE
INTERSECTION OF LOIS AVENUE AND WEST SPRUCE STREET.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WESTSHORE OVERLAY AND HAS
BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED TO THE OVERLAY
STANDARDS.
NEXT I'LL SHOW THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION AND THE EAST ELEVATION.
THIS SHOWS YOU THAT STEP DOWN IN HEIGHT THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND THE WEST ELEVATION
WHICH ALSO SHOWS YOU THAT STEP-DOWN.
IN HEIGHT.
NEXT I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST DOWN WEST SPRUCE TOWARDS LOIS AVENUE.
THIS IS THE CORNER OF SPRUCE AND LOIS.

LOOKING NORTHEAST AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOIS AND SPRUCE.
LOOKING SOUTH DOWN LOIS AND THE SITE IS WHERE THE CONCORD
SIGN IS.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH DOWN LOIS TOWARDS SPRUCE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY LINE RIGHT THERE AT THE
WEST.
THOSE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW THERE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM LOIS.
THIS IS INTERNAL TO THE SITE, THE WESTERN PORTION.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE WEST END OF THE SITE, AND THEN THAT'S
ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE SITE ON THE END.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THERE ARE NO WAIVERS AS PART OF THIS REQUEST.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATIONS, THE MODIFICATIONS
TO THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET
MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:17:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
MORNING.
YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO SLEEP FOR THE LAST SIX HOURS OR SO.

2:17:59AM >> SOME OF THE TEAM, NOT ALL OF US.
2:18:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID PEOPLE WHO CAME IN THAT PROBABLY
HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING IN ANY CASE FOR THE REST OF
THE EVENING, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, IF YOU
HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN ALREADY.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
2:18:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
STEPHANIE KIND OF SUMMARIZED THIS REALLY WELL BUT I WANTED
TO START OUT WITH A BIT OF A BACKGROUND.
AS STAFF MENTIONED THIS REZONING WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IN
APRIL OF LAST YEAR.
WE DID RECEIVE A DENIAL, SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING
BOARD, SHARPENED OUR PENCILS.
THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD IN THAT FIRST READING THAT WE HAD
BACK IN APRIL IS THAT THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.
SO WE WENT BACK AND KIND OF MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE DESIGN.
IN THAT PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE ALL SIX REQUESTED
WAIVERS, BUT, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE
THIS EVEN MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
TO THE SOUTH, WHICH WAS TALKING POINT DURING THE LAST
HEARING.
SUMMARY OF THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED WAIVERS, WE HAD A
STANDARD LOADING WAIVER.

WE HAD THAT BOSQUE ELM TREE WAIVER THAT'S PREVALENT IN THE
OVERLAY.
WE WERE REMOVING A GRAND TREE, AND THEN WE HAD SOME OVERLAY
AND BUFFERING WAIVERS.
THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH 24-78.
THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU ALL SAW LAST TIME WE WERE
BEFORE YOU WITH THIS PROJECT.
THE RED ARROWS ARE DELINEATING PRIOR ARROWS HAD.
LOADING BERTHS.
GRAND TREE BY THE DRIVE AISLE, WE WERE PROPOSING TO REMOVE
THAT.
THE BIGGEST POINT ARE THE NEXT TWO.
WE WERE REQUESTING A SETBACK REDUCTION ADJACENT TO THE
SINGLE-FAMILY BASED ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
THIS HAS THE RATIOS WHERE YOU STEP BACK AND SET BACK FOR
ADDITIONAL HEIGHT.
SO WE HAD A FIVE STORY BUILDING BEFORE PROPOSED THERE ALONG
THAT SETBACK LINE.
WE WERE STEPPING DOWN FROM SEVEN TO FIVE.
WE WERE ALSO PROPOSING AN INTERNAL DRIVE AISLE THERE JUST
SOUTH OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IN FULL TRANSPARENCY WE THOUGHT
WOULD SERVE AS ADDITIONAL BUFFERING FROM THE BUILDING TO THE
RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT WAS MET WITH SOME OPPOSITION AND POINT TAKEN AND
THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME NOISE THERE.

AND THAT WAS ALSO A WAIVER BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING IN THE
OVERLAY THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE VUA LESS THAN 25 FEET FROM
RESIDENTIAL.
MOVING ON, I'LL SWITCH BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE PLANS TO
KIND OF SHOW YOU.
FROM A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW, THE BUILDING LOOKS RELATIVELY
SIMILAR, BUT I THINK THAT THE SIGNIFICANCE HERE IS IN THE
DETAILS, MOST NOTABLY BEING THAT BUILDING STEP-DOWN.
WE ARE NOW PROPOSING TO GO FROM SEVEN STORIES DOWN TO FOUR
STORIES.
AGAIN, THAT WAS FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AT THE LAST
HEARING.
ON ACCOUNT OF LOWERING THE HEIGHT THERE AT THAT LINE, WE ARE
IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THAT SETBACK.
THE CODE REQUIRED SETBACK BASED ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT AT
FOUR STORIES THERE IS 100% COMPLIANT WITH CODE.
WE'RE PRESERVING THE GRAND TREE THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT
WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.
ANOTHER POINT, THIS WASN'T WAIVER RELATED BUT IN THE PRIOR
PLAN, WE HAD AN ACCESS POINT OFF OF LOIS AND ALSO HAD AN
ACCESS POINT OFF SPRUCE.
IT CONTINUALLY CAME UP TRAFFIC WAS A HOT BUTTON WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE WERE SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT THAT
LOIS ACCESS POINT BEING SO FAR SOUTH OF THE SITE NEAR THE
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

SO BOTH OF THE ACCESS POINTS ARE NOW PROPOSED ALONG SPRUCE.
THE ONE ON THE FAR LEFT OF THE SCREEN THAT IS SERVICE ONLY.
LOADING AND TRASH.
THE OTHER ONE I CIRCLED IN GREEN IS THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT
FROM THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
WE ALSO SHIFTED THE POOL AND THE COURTYARD AREA FURTHER AWAY
FROM THE RESIDENCES.
THAT WAS JUST ANOTHER DESIGN CHANGE THAT WAS MADE.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES I DISCUSSED, AGAIN,
HIGHLIGHTING THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING STEP-DOWN, NO MORE
SETBACK REDUCTION WAIVERS.
ANOTHER POINT THAT I WANTED TO NOTE WAS THAT WHERE WE
REMOVED THAT DRIVE AISLE THAT WAS ALONG THE SOUTHERN
PORTION, WE COMMITTED TO REPLACING THAT WITH WHAT WE'RE
CALLING WALKABLE WIDEN GREENSPACE.
THAT WILL BE A NICE ENHANCED BUFFER THERE.
PRESERVING THE GRAND TREE AND ALREADY NOTED THE POOL
RELOCATION.
I WANTED TO NOTE OTHER PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS.
THIS INFORMATION HASN'T CHANGED BUT SOME OF ITS BEEN CARRIED
ON THROUGH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
DANNY MENTIONED THIS BUT I WANTED TO HIT ON THE POINT AGAIN.
THIS PARCEL IS DESIGNATED RMU 100 WHICH YOU ALL KNOW IS THE
DENSEST FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY OUTSIDE OF THE CBD.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME INHERENT COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS WITH

THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENCY TO R-10.
THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH
THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED ON THE SITE PLAN.
WE'RE PROPOSING A 2.69 F.A.R.
WE ARE BELOW THE 3.0 NON-BONUS CEILING IN RMU 100.
WE ARE PROVIDING ACTIVATED STREETSCAPES IN ACCORDANCE WITH
WESTSHORE OVERLAY CODE.
EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS ON SPRUCE AND LOIS.
PROVIDING WALK UP UNITS ALONG SPRUCE STREET AS WELL.
I DISTRIBUTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HEARING SOME SUPPORT
LETTERS FROM THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS VERSION OF THE
PLAN.
THAT SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AS WELL AS,
LIKE I SAID, COMPLIANCE WITH THE OVERLAY CODE.
WE ARE PROPOSING TYPE ONE TREES ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE COMMITTED TO IN THE PRIOR REZONING,
CARRYING THAT THROUGH HERE.
THOSE WOULD BE THE LARGEST TYPE ONE SHADE TREES THERE FOR
ADDITIONAL BUFFERING.
THIS WAS MENTIONED AS WELL IN STAFF SUMMARY, BUT WE ARE
PROVIDING A HART BUS STOP AND SHELTER LOCATED ALONG LOIS AND
THERE ARE DIRECT SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS FROM THE BUILDING AND
BUILDING ENTRANCES TO LOIS TO ACCESS THAT AS WELL.
THIS WAS FULLY CONSISTENT FROM STAFF'S REVIEW.

WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:24:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
YES, SIR.
IF YOU WOULD LINE UP ON THE WALL.
YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GO AHEAD.
2:24:18AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ARI RAVI.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.
BORN AND RAISED IN THE TAMPA AREA AND WORKED IN WESTSHORE
FOR THE BETTER PART OF A DECADE.
BIG PART OF MY JOB IS HIRING, TRAINING, AND DEVELOPING YOUNG
OR NEW PEOPLE INTO THE INDUSTRY I'M IN.
WESTSHORE HAS BEEN GREAT.
LARGEST BUSINESS DISTRICT THERE IS, BUT I DO THINK THIS
WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE AREA BECAUSE THERE IS A LACK OF
HOUSING.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE I HIRE AND TRAIN ARE YOUNG.
THEY LIVE IN APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
TEAM MEMBERS HAVE TO DRIVE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 45 MINUTES
EVERY DAY.

SO HAVING MORE OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN
COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
MY ONE TEAM MEMBER THAT DID LIVE IN WESTSHORE, HIS LEASE
CAME UP.
COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO LIVE IN WESTSHORE.
HAD TO MOVE AND NOW HE'S LIKE 25 MINUTES AWAY.
I THINK HAVING MORE RESIDENTIAL LIKE THIS HERE WILL ALLOW
AND GIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO YOUNG PEOPLE OR NEW PEOPLE IN THE
AREA WORKING IN WESTSHORE.
WALKABILITY AS OPPOSED TO DRIVING EVERY DAY.
IT'S LIVE, WORK, PLAY, WHICH HAVING BEEN BORN AND RAISED
HERE, SEEING THE EVOLUTION HAS BEEN GREAT.
I HOPE YOU GUYS SUPPORT IT AND PASS IT BECAUSE I THINK THERE
ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS.
2:25:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:25:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
NATHAN TIMMONS.
I WANT TO COME HERE TODAY AND SPEAK ON BEHALF IN SUPPORT OF
THIS.
FIVE YEARS AGO, MUCH LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, I MOVED TO
THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
GRADUATED COLLEGE AS YOUNG PROFESSIONAL.

I WAS EXCITED TO MOVE DOWN HERE.
THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE, THE TWO MAIN PLACES YOU WOULD
BE ABLE TO WORK OUT OF, EITHER DOWNTOWN HERE OR THE
WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT, SO MY INITIAL JOB WAS IN
DOWNTOWN.
ONE THING THAT I REALLY ENJOYED ABOUT THAT WAS THE ABILITY
FOR THAT LIVE, WORK, PLAY ASPECT, BEING ABLE TO WORK, WALK
AROUND, GO TO LIGHTNING GAMES.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAD NEVER REALLY BEEN TO TAMPA, IT WAS A
GREAT WAY TO REALLY GET ENRICHED IN THE CULTURE OF WHAT
TAMPA HAD TO OFFER.
AND DON'T THINK IF I DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO LIVE, WORK,
AND PLAY, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET ACCLIMATED AS
QUICKLY.
COUPLE OF YEARS WENT BY, JOINED A NEW FIRM AND ENDED IN THE
WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT WHICH I ALSO ENJOY AND LOVE.
OBVIOUSLY, DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO THAT.
TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE NEARBY MY OFFICE IN THE
WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
FORTUNATELY, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, FOUND A PLACE THAT
I WAS RENTING FROM, AND THEN AT THE END OF LAST YEAR,
SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, MY LEASE CAME
DUE AND UNABLE TO RENEW.
LOOKED AND LOOKED TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.
UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T.

ENDED UP HAVING TO MOVE AWAY.
NOW MY DRIVE IS ABOUT 20, 25 MINUTES IN.
NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
BEING DOWNTOWN, ABILITY TO WALK AROUND AND TIGHT CULTURE OF
10, 15 MINUTE WALK OF WHERE I LIVE INCLUDING WHERE I WAS
WORKING.
I KNOW 20, 25 MINUTES ISN'T TOO BAD, BUT I ALSO HAVE OTHER
PEOPLE IN MY OFFICE THAT ARE MAKING 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR
DRIVE.
I KNOW IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, THEY WOULD LIKE THE
ABILITY TO LIVE CLOSER TO THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS DISTRICT
AND CONTINUE WORKING.
NOT ONLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, COLLEAGUES, BUT
IMPORTANT FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS MOVING TO THE CITY AND
PROFESSIONALS IN GENERAL THAT WANT TO DIVE IN AND BECOME
ACCLIMATED TO TAMPA AND FEEL LIKE THEY GREW UP HERE LIKE I
HAVE.
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:28:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
GOOD MORNING.
2:28:05AM >> GREETINGS.
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER FORWARD.
I AM A TAMPA NATIVE AND ALSO A RECENT GRADUATE OF MOREHOUSE

COLLEGE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
AFTER COMPLETING MY STUDIES IN MAY OF 2025, I MADE THE
INTENTIONAL DECISION TO MOVE BACK HERE TO TAMPA, FLORIDA,
WHICH IS MY HOME.
MOVING BACK I FACED A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITHIN THE JOB
MARKET BEING SCARCE, BUT ALSO LIVING BEING SCARCE AS WELL.
THIS TRANSITION HOWEVER HAS NOT BEEN EASY.
WHILE I AM GRATEFUL THAT I WAS ABLE TO MOVE BACK HOME WITH
MY PARENTS, I UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE
THAT LUXURY AND OPPORTUNITY.
I SUPPORT THE SPRUCE APARTMENTS ON 4202 WEST SPRUCE STREET
BECAUSE IT OFFERS MEANINGFUL RELIEF FOR YOUNG PROFESSIONALS
LIKE MYSELF.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION FURTHER STRENGTHS THE VALUE OF THIS
DEVELOPMENT WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES,
TRANSPORTATION, AND MAJOR DESTINATIONS, THIS SITE OFFERS AN
IDEAL BALANCE OF CONVENIENCE AND CONNECTIVITY.
EXPANDING HOUSING AVAILABILITY IN A STRATEGICALLY LOCATED
AREA LIKE WESTSHORE SUPPORTS RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND HELPS
EASE THE PRESSURES CREATED BY TAMPA'S ONGOING HOUSING
CHALLENGES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, AND
YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY CENTERED
DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT,

RECOGNIZING THE POSITIVE AND LASTING IMPACTS IT MAY HAVE ON
INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO BUILD THEIR LIFE AND LEGACY HERE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:29:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
2:29:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MELODY VALBERG.
I LIVE IN YBOR CITY IN TAMPA.
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT AT 4202 WEST SPRUCE STREET.
TAMPA IS EXPERIENCING REAL AND GROWING PRESSURE ON THE
HOUSING SUPPLY, PROJECTS THAT MEANINGFULLY INCREASE HOUSING
AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY, PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN
KEEPING THE CITY LIVABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND ECONOMICALLY
RESILIENT.
I MOVED TO TAMPA IN 2021 TO PURSUE MY DEGREE.
DURING MY FIRST MONTH, I DECIDED TAMPA IS WHERE I WANTED TO
BUILD MY LIFE POSTGRAD AND WHEN I GRADUATED IN DECEMBER OF
2024, MY MIND HADN'T CHANGED.
AT THE TIME I WAS FINISHING MY LEASE IN MY HALF BEDROOM
APARTMENT, WORKING AT A COFFEE SHOP, COMPLETING FREELANCE
ART AND GRAPHIC DESIGN PROJECTS, AND LIVING PAYCHECK TO
PAYCHECK WHILE TRYING TO SECURE MY FIRST CAREER-RELATED JOB
AND FIGURE OUT WHERE I COULD AFFORD TO LIVE NEXT.

2025 BROUGHT ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING JOB MARKETS IN
RECENT YEARS WITH JOB SEEKERS OUTNUMBERING AVAILABLE
POSITIONS.
I HAD TO SEARCH FOR HOUSING WITH VERY LIMITED INCOME IN
MIND, FULLY SUPPORTING MYSELF WITHOUT FINANCIAL HELP FROM MY
PARENTS.
I DID NOT MEET INCOME REQUIREMENTS FOR MOST APARTMENTS,
WHICH LEFT MY OPTIONS VERY -- OR EXTREMELY LIMITED.
I CHECKED ZILLOW DAILY TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING AFFORDABLE
IN A WALKABLE AREA SINCE I DO NOT HAVE A CAR.
AFTER SEEING HOW EXPENSIVE WALKABLE APARTMENTS WERE AND HOW
FAR AWAY AFFORDABLE ONES TENDED TO BE, I BEGAN TO LOSE HOPE.
AT THIS MOMENT, HAD I TO PREPARE FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF
MOVING BACK TO MY SMALL, ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED HOMETOWN IN
UPSTATE NEW YORK.
I KNEW IN MY HEART THAT TAMPA IS WHERE I WAS MEANT TO BE,
AND I DID NOT WANT TO ALLOW MYSELF TO RETURN TO AN
ENVIRONMENT WHERE I WAS LIKELY TO REGRESS.
THAT MOTIVATED ME TO KEEP TRYING.
I EVENTUALLY TOURED AN APARTMENT IN EAST YBOR AND SHOWN A
NEWLY LISTED UNIT IN WEST YBOR.
THAT BETTER FIT MY NEEDS AND BUDGET.
I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY BECAUSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA
IS SCARCE AS IS THE CASE IN MANY LARGE CITIES.
A MONTH AFTER MOVING IN, I LANDED MY DREAM JOB AS GRAPHIC

DESIGNER AND MY FINANCIAL SITUATION BEGAN TO IMPROVE.
I SHARE THIS STORY BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY OTHERS IN SIMILAR
POSITIONS.
RECENT GRADUATES AND WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TRYING TO
BUILD THEIR LIVES WITHOUT FINANCIAL BACKING FROM THEIR
FAMILIES.
TAMPA'S ECONOMY IS ONLY CONTINUING TO GROW, IF WE WANT TO
SUPPORT THIS GROWTH, WE NEED TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF HOUSING
OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO CONTRIBUTE.
THE SPRUCE STREET APARTMENTS REPRESENT AN IMPORTANT --
2:32:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
2:32:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MADISON BAPTISTE.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
DO MY BEST TO KEEP THIS BRIEF.
I'VE ALSO LIVED IN TAMPA SINCE 2020 WHEN I STARTED AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE, I IMMEDIATELY FELL IN LOVE WITH
IT, AND I KNEW I WANTED TO MAKE THIS PLACE A HOME.
BUT AS SOMEONE JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS INTO MY CAREER, I'M
FINDING IT HARDER AND HARDER TO PICTURE A FUTURE HERE AS
PRICES CONTINUE TO INCREASE WITH THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY TO
LIVE.
I'VE EVEN HAD MANY OF MY PEERS AND BEST FRIENDS HAVE TO MAKE

THE DIFFICULT DECISION TO LEAVE TAMPA TO GO BACK WITH FAMILY
IN OTHER STATES AND FIND JOBS THAT ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT A
BETTER CAREER.
THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS REZONING, BY INCREASING THE
HOUSING SUPPLY IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO MAKE A
LIVING HERE MORE AFFORDABLE AND KEEPING YOUNG PROFESSIONALS
LIKE MYSELF FROM BEING PUSHED OUT, ESPECIALLY AS THIS
WESTSHORE DISTRICT BEGINS TO EVOLVE AND BRING IN MORE YOUNG
PROFESSIONALS LIKE MYSELF AND THOSE BEHIND ME.
APPROVING THIS REZONING HELPS ENSURE TAMPA REMAINS A PLACE
THAT STUDENTS WANT TO CONTINUE TO COME HERE AND STAY HERE TO
HELP THE ECONOMY CONTINUE TO GROW AND BLOSSOM INTO THE
BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT IT IS TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
2:33:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
2:34:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS GRANT CHUNGO.
I AM GOING TO GO KIND OF RIGHT AFTER WHAT MADDIE SAID BUT
FURTHER LATER IN LIFE.
I'M NOW IN MY YOUNG 30s.
IT PRESENTS A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE.
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS STUDENT
LOANS, AS YOU MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, AS YOU GET
FURTHER INTO YOUR CAREER, THE STUDENT LOANS KEEP INCREASING.

THE PAYMENT PLAN INCREASES.
SO MY STANDARD OF LIVING IS STILL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO GET THAT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OF COURSE, WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS IN
THE MARKET.
SO I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
I'M JUST SAYING EVEN OUT OF COLLEGE INTO YOUR 30s, I'M
BETWEEN THAT FAMILY STAGE VERSUS COLLEGE STAGE BUT I'M STILL
LOOKING FOR THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.
THAT'S WHY I AM IN SUPPORT OF OUR SPRUCE STREET PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
2:34:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
2:34:59AM >> I DON'T LIVE IN THIS AREA -- SORRY.
ADDIO BANDWELL.
WHEN I WAS DOWNSTAIRS, I MET A NICE FAMILY THAT DO LIVE IN
CARVER CITY.
IT IS CARVER CITY, NOT WESTSHORE ESTATES.
IT IS A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMPA.
I MET A VERY NICE FAMILY DOWN STAIRS.
THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT -- I THINK THE GENTLEMAN -- ONE HAD TO
GO TO WORK.
THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS.
I STAYED SO LATE, ONLY RIGHT I GET UP AND EXPRESS SOME OF
THOSE.

WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY OBVIOUSLY WERE IN OPPOSITION OF IT, BUT THEY HAD STRONG
FEELINGS ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF DEVELOPMENT IN CARVER CITY.
THEY HAD CONCERNS THEY WANTED TO RAISE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT
ISSUES IN CARVER CITY, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE CONTINUED
COMMUNITY OUTREACH BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ALL THE VOICES ARE
REPRESENTED HERE TODAY.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPERS AND THE COUNCIL TO
CONTINUE TO OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY IN CARVER CITY
BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE STILL CONCERNS.
2:36:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
2:36:02AM >> GOOD EVENING.
ANA LILAINA.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD
TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.
NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE DISCLOSED THEIR AFFILIATION WITH THE
PROJECT.
JUST A SIDE NOTE.
I AM AN ACTUAL RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE SITE PROJECT.
AND WHILE I DO APPRECIATE SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THE
REDESIGN, MY FAMILY'S PRIMARY CONCERNS REMAIN UNRESOLVED,
SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT,

TRAFFIC IMPACTS, SINKHOLE RISKS, OVERCROWDING DENSITY,
SAFETY AND OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE, THE RESIDENTS, THE
SINGLE-FAMILIES ACTUALLY LIVING THERE.
THIS MAP OVER HERE IS SHOWING MORE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND HERE OUTLINED ARE EVERY SINGLE MULTIFAMILY UNITS OVER
HERE IN THE CIRCLE IS A STORY, IS THE HEIGHT OF THE
BUILDING.
ONLY ONE THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS OVER
HERE ON THE MAIN STREET -- I'M SORRY.
THIS IS THE ONE.
THIS IS NO -- LOIS.
IT IS ONLY FIVE STORIES.
VERY LITTLE OF IT AS YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE IS ADJACENT TO
SINGLE-FAMILY.
SO ONLY NOVUS IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY AND ONLY A FEW OF
THE HOUSES.
THIS PROPERTY OVER HERE ENCOMPASSES I BELIEVE ABOUT A DOZEN
OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
AND THE SISTER SITE OF THIS PROJECT OVER HERE WAS APPROVED
FOR SEVEN STORIES.
IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, AS
YOU CAN SEE, ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, EXCEPT MET
WEST IS EIGHT STORIES.
ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE SHORTER THAN THAT.
I PULLED UP APARTMENTS.COM RECORDS.

THERE'S PLENTY OF GREEN MARKS IN THE AREA FOR AVAILABLE
APARTMENTS.
FROM APARTMENTS.COM.
PLENTY OF AVAILABLE APARTMENTS.
GIVEN THAT METWEST IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 400 UNITS, 475, THE
SISTER SITE I BELIEVE, AND THEY CAN CORRECT ME, 410 UNITS.
THIS AREA IS OVERCROWDED.
OVERCROWDED TO THE UPPER LIMITS.
RESIDENTS CAN BARELY START MOVING THE TRAFFIC ON LOIS AND
SPRUCE.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO POINT OUT ATTENTION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS YOU DID DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT
LAST TIME, THIS SITE OVER HERE, PARTIAL IN COUNTY AND CITY
OWNERSHIP.
THIS WAS THE WASTE FACILITY, AND THERE'S SOME REDEVELOPMENT
COMING UP.
AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT THE OVERALL TENDENCY IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THERE'S NO
ROOM FOR US TO LIVE.
AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING PUSHED OUT.
2:39:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE A REBUTTAL?
2:39:33AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

THIS IS RMU 100 SITE AS WE TALKED ABOUT.
SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF WESTSHORE.
NOT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
WHERE, ACCORDING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE HAD
REALLY EXTENDED CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY.
THE PLAN WAS VERY DELIBERATELY DESIGNED FOR THIS TO BE A
HIGH DENSITY AREA.
I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE RMU 100 RIGHT NEXT TO A SINGLE-FAMILY
NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S GOING TO ALWAYS PRESENT CHALLENGES WHEN
YOU HAVE THE TWO COLORS IN THE DIFFERENT WAY.
MY CLIENT SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TO TRY TO GET
THIS TO FOLLOW EVERY SINGLE RULE.
I KNOW OFTEN WAIVERS ARE NOT POPULAR BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEN
BY -- AS DEVELOPERS TRYING TO GET MORE HERE AND THERE.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT.
THERE ARE DIMENSIONAL CONSTRAINTS.
TRADEOFFS, REASONS WHY YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE A ZERO WAIVER
SITE PLAN.
THE FACT THAT THIS ACHIEVED THAT IS A SMALL MIRACLE.
IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU ALSO HAVE AN
OVERLAY.
I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS, BUT I WOULD REMIND COUNCIL THAT
THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
SO WE ARE SORT IN THE WORLD OF SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT

EVIDENCE.
AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU, COURTS HAVE FOUND THAT GOVERNMENT
STAFF REPORTS DO CONSTITUTE THAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE AND THAT THE RECORD HAS THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT A FINDING OF APPROVAL.
THE CONCERNS RAISED ARE VERY VALID.
SINCE YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF REWRITING THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, I THINK THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE ABOUT HOW THESE R-10,
RMU 100, THE BOOKEND TRANSITION AREAS ARE HANDLED, BUT
RESPECTFULLY, THIS PARTICULAR HEARING ON THIS PARTICULAR
PIECE OF LAND ISN'T REALLY THE TIME FOR THAT BROADER
DISCUSSION.
WE WORKED HARD TO GET THIS TO BE A CLEAN SITE PLAN, NO
WAIVERS, FULL CONSISTENCY AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU
APPROVE IT THIS EVENING -- MORNING.
THANK YOU.
2:41:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
HEARING NOTHING ELSE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
OH, STAFF.
MS. POPE.
2:41:45AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
WE SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT HERE.
AND IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STICK TO
THE HEIGHT THAT THEY HAVE SAID THE STEP-DOWNS PREPARED,

WE'LL WORK WITH LEGAL ON A NOTE TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN
THAT ENSURES THAT THOSE HEIGHTS ARE WHAT THEY HAVE PUT ON
THE SITE PLAN.
SO THERE WILL BE A NOTE ADDED.
2:42:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NO AMENDMENT TO THE
HEIGHT.
OKAY.
2:42:25AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
WE'VE HAD THIS NOTE BEFORE ON OTHER PLANS.
IT ESSENTIALLY SAYS WE HAVE BASICALLY FIVE FEET OF WIGGLE
ROOM AND THAT'S FOR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ONLY.
WE CAN'T GO AND FILE A CHANGE TO INCREASE IT WITHOUT COMING
BACK.
2:42:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE?
2:42:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. POPE, DOES THAT GET ADDED TO THE
REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING?
IF THAT COULD BE PART OF THE MOTION.
2:42:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

2:43:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 4202 WEST SPRUCE STREET, CITY OF TAMPA FLORIDA,
AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:43:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE REVISION SHEET.
2:43:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:43:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN --
2:43:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN.
ABOUT NO CHANGES TO THE HEIGHT.
2:43:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN ABOUT NO
CHANGES TO THE HEIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:43:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTS
SOMEWHAT THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS DEFINITELY CONCERNING.
THE SECOND ONE, THEY HAVE UPDATED WITH WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO
DO.
THEY CAME BACK WITH NO WAIVERS.
I HEAR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DENSITY, BUT THIS PLOT
OF LAND HAS THE ABILITY TO BE THAT DENSE.

IT IS A CONCERN AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK ON THOSE MATCHES
BETWEEN SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.
BUT THIS FITS WHAT WE WANT IT TO FIT.
2:44:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW IT'S LATE.
I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BECAUSE I KNOW
ALL OF COUNCIL IS VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS AREA.
I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS HERE
WITHIN WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE LAW.
I'M TIRED.
BUT WE ARE VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IN
THIS AREA.
I WOULD BE REMISS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CARVER CITY AND LINCOLN
GARDENS, MENTION OUR LATE COLLEAGUE GWEN HENDERSON WHO IS
WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU.
2:45:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHEN YOU LOOK AT NOT ONLY THAT ROAD, BUT
SPRUCE IN THE BEGINNING WHERE IT MEETS WITH DALE MABRY AND
YOU HAVE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO HOME DEPOT, ALSO A
DISASTER WHEN YOU WANT TO GET IN AND OUT.
YOU JUST CAN'T.
THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BACKED UP, NOT BECAUSE OF YOU,
JUST BECAUSE OF THE POPULARITY OF THE AREA.
HOMES ARE AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE AND NEED MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT ONLY IN YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY WERE
DOING, PLANNING ON MOVING INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM HOME DEPOT
FURTHER IN SO MORE AREA TO MOVE OUT, TO NOT BOTHER THE
TRAFFIC.
THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD US ANYWAY.
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOU HAVE A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU HAVE A BIG PROBLEM IN TRAFFIC.
GUESS WHAT, EVERYWHERE I LIVE AND MY FRIENDS LIVE, WE HAVE
THE SAME PROBLEM YOU HAVE.
I LIVE NEAR THE STADIUM.
YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT FOR HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE AND HOUR
AND A HALF AFTER.
I'M TELLING YOU WHAT IT IS.
IT HOPEFULLY GETS BETTER.
IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BEFORE WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEM.
2:46:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND FOR
APPROVAL WITH THE SITE PLAN NOTATION OF HEIGHT RESTRICTION
PLUS FIVE FEET FOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
AND THE REVISION SHEET.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
2:46:43AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
2:46:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, NUMBER 11.
2:47:02AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
FINAL ITEM OF THE EVENING -- OF THE MORNING IS REZ 25-127.
THIS IS FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND ON
22nd STREET.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY, PERSONAL SERVICES, RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY
GOODS AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO PD.
THIS WOULD ADD THE USES OF RETAIL SALES SHOPPERS AND
CONVENIENCE GOODS, PERSONAL SERVICES AND RESTAURANT TO THOSE
EXISTING USES.
I'LL TURN IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COME BACK AND
GIVE MY REPORT.
2:47:42AM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I WAS SWORN IN.
OUR LAST REZONING IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT AND EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
IT IS IN EVACUATION ZONE E.
HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES.
YOU'LL SEE IT IS LOCATED ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, SO YOU

HAVE A MIXTURE OF USES.
THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES, ESPECIALLY TO THE NORTHWEST
OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SUBJECT SITE IS DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, AND
THAT SUBJECT SITE IS PREDOMINANTLY FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION
OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND THIS PORTION OF NORTH 22nd
STREET.
R-10 DIRECTLY TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AS LaCHONE MENTIONED, THIS IS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD AND
THEIR REQUEST IS TO ALLOW MORE EXPANSIVE LIST OF PERMITTED
USES ON THE SITE.
WHICH WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES THAT WERE FOUND PREVIOUSLY
IN SUPPORT OF REZONING 22-113 REMAIN APPLICABLE.
THESE INCLUDE POLICIES RELATED TO THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY AND
INTENSITY, HOUSING, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND JUST
DEVELOPMENT ALONG MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS AND
DEVELOPMENT WITHIN URBAN VILLAGES.
THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT ALTER THE SURROUNDING
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND SITE PLAN CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THESE
POLICIES.
ADDITIONALLY, THE EXPANDED LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES SHOWN ON
THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT
CAN BE CONSIDERED WITHIN THE CC-35 DESIGNATION.
AND OVERALL ALIGNS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES

RELATED TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS.
BASED ON THE ABOVE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
2:49:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION?
HEARING NONE.
2:49:50AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS REQUEST, THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.
THIS PD, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WAS APPROVED IN 2022.
SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S OUTLINED IN RED.
THIS IS 22nd STREET.
THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE YOU SEE THE PDA ZONING.
THIS IS THE OLD GRACEPOINT WHICH IS NOW IBIS THAT
DEVELOPMENT.
ERWIN TECH.
TO THE SOUTH, CI ZONING ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, AND THEN
TO THE EAST IS CI ZONING AND THAT'S RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
SO THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SITE, NOTHING IS CHANGED.
THE SITE IS DEVELOPED.
SO ELEVATIONS WERE SUBMITTED, BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SITE
PHOTOS BECAUSE IT IS BUILT.
THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE BUILT, BUT THE SITE, THIS IS

THE SITE.
PROPOSES ACCESS ON 22nd STREET, THAT IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
TOTAL OF 354 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
THERE IS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AND THAT IS LOCATED HERE
ALONG THE SOUTH.
THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL, THE
ALLOWANCE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL USES I MENTIONED WITHIN THIS
AREA WHERE THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL IS LOCATED.
SO THESE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE HERE.
WHEN YOU ENTER THE SITE, THE AMENITY CENTER IS LOCATED HERE.
AND THEN IF YOU DRIVE TO THIS END OF THE SITE FROM THE
INTERNAL PORTION, YOU WILL REACH THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S HERE.
THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO I HAVE THE PHOTOS TO SHOW IT.
LIKE I SAID, THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED.
YOU CAN SEE THE COMMERCIAL ALSO HAS ACTIVATED THE SPACE TO
THE SOUTH ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
AND YOU CAN ALSO ENTER THE SITE FROM HILLSBOROUGH IN
ADDITION.
LAST REZONING, APPLICANT DID COMMIT TO PROVIDING AFFORDABLE
UNITS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT STILL CARRIES OVER.
NOTHING CHANGED AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS.
ONLY THE PLACEMENT OF THE SOLID WASTE NEAR THE COMMERCIAL,
AND THEN THE USES IN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SITE ON 22nd AVENUE, IF

LOOKING EAST.
THIS SHOWS YOU THE AMENITY CENTER NEAR THE REAR OF THE SITE,
OTHER END OF THE SITE.
THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE HEADING TOWARDS THE COMMERCIAL, TOWARDS
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, IF YOU ARE INTERNAL TO THE SITE AND
THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THIS IS THE VIEW FROM HILLSBOROUGH, THE SOUTH END OF THAT
BUILDING.
NOW, THIS IS SURROUNDING USES, SO THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL AT
THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF 22nd AND HILLSBOROUGH.
COMMERCIAL ACROSS THE STREET, OF COURSE.
THE STRIP CENTER.
THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY THAT'S EAST.
AND THEN WE SWING BACK AROUND NORTH, THIS IS THE IBIS
DEVELOPMENT.
DRC STAFF -- I APOLOGIZE.
THERE ARE THREE NEW WAIVERS REQUESTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
ONE IS TO 27-228, REQUEST TO REDUCE THE DEPTH OF THE
COMMERCIAL DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE FROM 10 FEET TO 9-POINT 4
FEET.
THE OTHER IS FOR 27-283.7, THAT'S REDUCING THE PARKING
SPACES FOR COMMERCIAL USE FROM 85 TO 40.
THE LAST REQUEST IS FROM 27-284 AND THAT'S TO REDUCE THE USE
LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE EAST FROM THE 15-FOOT WITH 6-FOOT

MASONRY REQUIREMENT WITH 10-FOOT WITH 6-FOOT PVC FENCE.
THIS IS FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND THE DUMPSTER AREA.
DRC REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT AND THAT
IS RELATING TO TRANSPORTATION'S FINDING WITH THE PARKING
WAIVER REQUESTED.
SITE PLAN CHANGES TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:53:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
2:53:57AM >> I'LL SAY HELLO BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS.
KAMI CORBETT WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD & HENDERSON
REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
THIS PROJECT IS KNOWN AS THE MARQUEE.
IT IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, WHEN WE CAME IN FOR THE COMMERCIAL,
RICHMAN IS RELOCATING THEIR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUP OFFICE
TO THAT BUILDING AND THAT'S GOING TO OCCUPY ABOUT 5,000
SQUARE FEET.
AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS
OWNERS THAT WERE WITHIN THE USES THAT WE WERE REQUESTING, SO
THERE WAS NO NEED TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING WAIVER.
THOSE DID NOT MATERIALIZE AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST
FROM RETAIL, DOUGHNUT SHOP, KIND OF RESTAURANTS,
NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING

THE RESIDENTS WANTED WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY COMING THROUGH.
SO WE ARE GOING AHEAD AND ASKING FOR THOSE USES.
THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE PARKING WAIVER.
THIS IS IN AN AREA WHERE I THINK A PARKING WAIVER IS
APPROPRIATE.
IT IS SERVED BY TRANSIT ALONG 22nd.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS CONNECTING TO A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES,
INCLUDING THE IBIS HEALTH CARE.
I LIVE ABOUT TWO MILES NORTH ON 22nd, AND I SEE PEOPLE
BIKING AND WALKING IN THIS AREA ALL THE TIME.
SO I THINK IT'S ONE WHERE PEOPLE WILL NOT USE THEIR CARS TO
GET TO THESE LOCATIONS.
AGAIN, MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT ARE THERE ON THE BACK AND
THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING TO GET TO THOSE USES AS WELL.
WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AT THIS HOUR.
2:55:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:55:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN, I COULD HAVE
SWORN THERE WAS A DOG PARK BEFORE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE DOG PARK?
2:55:31AM >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO FIND THAT ANSWER FOR YOU BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
2:55:45AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LET ME TAKE A LOOK.

2:55:47AM >> I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT CHANGED.
2:55:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE
SOUTHERN PART BY THE BUSINESS.
I REMEMBER THAT BEING A NEAT AMENITY BECAUSE YOU DON'T
GENERALLY SEE THAT IN 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:56:11AM >> WE WILL FIND THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
2:56:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HASN'T
CHANGED.
BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IS AN AMENITY PEOPLE WANT.
2:56:25AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
SO I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THIS AREA.
I THINK IT WAS HERE.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS ADD THE LABEL BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
2:56:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A CHANGE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE
THAT I SEE IT IS STILL THERE.
AGAIN, THAT WAS --
2:56:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE YOU ADDRESS THE
AUDACITY OF COMING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND ASKING FOR
REDUCTION IN THE DUMPSTER FROM 10 TO 9.84.
[ LAUGHTER ]
2:56:57AM >> WHEN YOU CONSTRUCT THINGS, THINGS MOVE A LITTLE BIT.
2:57:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LITTLE BIT OF LEVITY AT 2:58 A.M.
2:57:04AM >> WHEN I WALKED IN, I PREDICTED 3 A.M.
2:57:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS ITEM?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU READ THIS ONE?
2:57:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE NUMBER 11, FILE REZ 25-127, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5501,
5511, 5531, 5551, 5561, UNITS 101-319, 5571 UNITS 101-328,
5521 AND 5541 NORTH 22nd STREET AND 2302 AND 2236 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
SPECIALTY, CONVENIENCE, SHOPPER'S GOODS, PERSONAL SERVICES,
BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RESTAURANT, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:58:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
INCLUDING THE NOTATION ON THE DOG PARK.
ANYTHING ELSE?
AND A REVISION SHEET.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THAT --
2:58:42AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
2:58:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED
PROGRAM.
STAFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US TO 3 A.M.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
2:59:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DID WANT TO SAY, I SAID IT PRIVATELY BUT I
WANTED TO SAY HOW IMPRESSED I WAS WITH STAFF TONIGHT AND
JUST HOW GREAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ADDING THE WAIVERS.
IT'S REALLY NICE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU ALL WERE SUPER WELL PREPARED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:59:22AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
WE APPRECIATE IT.

2:59:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TOUGH NIGHT.
GOOD MORNING.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULAR BUSINESS.
2:59:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU TO THE AV PEOPLE AND ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE SEEN.
2:59:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND SECURITY.
THANK YOU FOR SECURITY FOR TODAY.
WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
AND OUR CLERK EVERYBODY BUT OUR ATTORNEY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
NEW BUSINESS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN VIERA?
2:59:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, JUST TWO QUICK ONES.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING A VETERANS ADVISORY CITIZENS BOARD
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH STAFF ON IT.
I THINK THE BEST WAY FORWARD IS TO DO AN ORDINANCE.
I MOVE FOR STAFF -- OR LEGAL STAFF TO COME BACK MARCH 5 FOR
AN ORDINANCE FOR A CITY OF TAMPA COMMITTEE ON VETERANS
AFFAIRS TO BE FORMED, IF THEY NEED MORE TIME, FINE.
3:00:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
3:00:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ALSO ON SAME DAY, MARCH 5, STAFF TO REPORT
BACK ON $100,000 COUNCIL ALLOCATION TO THE PORTICO HOUSING
SOLUTIONS FROM HOUSING FUNDS WRITTEN REPORT JUST ON THE
STATUS OF THAT.
3:00:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FOR WRITTEN REPORT FROM COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
3:00:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
RECENTLY WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT HAVE COME UP
REGARDING SOME STORES IN THE AREA THAT HAVE SOME ITEMS ON
DISPLAY, THE COMMUNITY HAS ADDRESSED THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS
WITH.
ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO.
I MOVE TO REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY CONCERNS
ABOUT SEX PARAPHERNALIA BEING DISPLAYED WHERE CHILDREN CAN
READILY SEE AND ACCESS IT IN RETAIL MARKETS IN EAST TAMPA
AND RETURN IN PERSON WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL
ON FEBRUARY 19, 2026 UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
ORIGINALLY, I HAD A FEBRUARY 5 DATE, BUT ONCE LOOKING AT THE

AGENDA, IT WAS ALREADY FULL, SO WE HAD TO MOVE IT TO THE
19th.
THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING -- IT'S BEEN A CONCERN, AND I'VE
GONE MYSELF TO JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
ULTIMATELY, WE WANT TO HAVE A PLACE THAT OUR KIDS AND
FAMILIES CAN GO INTO.
SO WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF EXPLORE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS
A CITY TO KIND OF FIX IT.
3:02:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
AYES HAD IT.
THANK YOU.
3:02:24AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S IT.
3:02:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:02:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I MOTION THAT THE FEBRUARY 5th LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
REFORM UPDATE BY ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT
AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY BE MOVED TO FEBRUARY 19 AND TO BE
PROVIDED AS A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
3:02:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:02:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN LIEU OF ABBYE FEELEY'S MONTHLY UPDATE ON
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CLARION BE REQUESTED TO PRESENT
AT THE NEXT MONTHLY REPORT SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 5, 2026,
UNDER COMMENDATIONS AND/OR PRESENTATIONS.
IT SAYS 30 MINUTES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT -- I THINK THE IDEA WAS IT WAS SUPPOSED
TO BE A SPECIFIC TIME.
IF I CAN GET THIS TO PASS, I WILL FIND OUT.
YEAH, WE HAVE TIME TO FIX IT.
3:03:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:03:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO MOVE THE FEBRUARY
5th CODE REFORM UPDATE, I MOVE TO SCHEDULE A CITY COUNCIL
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FY '25 BUDGET SURPLUS FOR FEBRUARY 5,
2026 AT THE REGULAR MEETING UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND
UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
3:03:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:03:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE FOUND OUT WHAT MONEY IS LEFT, AND WE NEED
TO TALK ABOUT IT.
3:04:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
YOU WILL BE CHAIR DURING THAT MEETING.
3:04:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT BUT WE STILL HAVE
A WHOLE LIST.
WE WILL TAKE UP YOUR LIST AS WELL.
3:04:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
JUST WHEN YOU GIVE THOUGHT TO THE CLARION PRESENTATION, JUST
KNOW IF IT IS UNDER COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS, 30
MINUTES PUSHES YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT BACK.
3:04:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE'S GOING TO FIX THAT.
SHE TOOK THE IOU TO FIX THAT.
NOTED THAT WE HAD CONCERNS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:04:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD NIGHT.
3:04:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:04:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I APOLOGIZE.
I BELIEVE I HAVE SOMETHING.
THE CONTEST THEY HAVE, ORATORICAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE WITH IT.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE DATE NEXT WEEK.

SOMETIME IN MARCH.
3:04:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW BUSINESS AT
THE NEXT MEETING.
VERY GOOD.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS.
I WISH YOU ALL A GOOD MORNING, FRIDAY MORNING.
GOING TO THE WAFFLE HOUSE?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
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