TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 22, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:10:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GOOD MORNING.
I HAVE FOR INVOCATION -- WE'LL DO THE INVOCATION AND THEN
PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION FOR A MOMENT AND THEN FOR
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
BUT I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING AARON BURKE, WHO IS
THE FOUNDER AND LEAD PASTOR OF RADIANT CHURCH IN TAMPA,
FLORIDA, ONE OF AMERICA'S LARGEST AND FASTEST GROWING
CHURCHES.
IN FACT, THEY JUST CLOSED TWO WEEKS AGO ON A NEW PROPERTY.
CONGRATULATIONS.
KNOWN FOR HIS PASSION FOR LOVING GOD, LOVING PEOPLE AND
BUILDING THE CHURCH, AARON HAS SHARED THE GOSPEL AND
BIBLICAL LEADERSHIP PRINCIPLES ACROSS THE GLOBE.
HE IS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF "THE UNFAIR ADVANTAGE."
HIS DEBUT BOOK THAT INSPIRES READERS TO TRANSFORM LIFE'S
OBSTACLES INTO OPPORTUNITIES AND THE HOST OF THE LEADERSHIP
PODCAST MADE FOR MORE.
AARON HOLDS A DOCTOR OF MINISTRY DEGREE AND LOVES TO DO

CROSSFIT.
HE AND HIS WIFE KATIE ARE THE PROUD PARENTS OF FIVE
ENERGETIC CHILDREN.
WELCOME, PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.
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9:13:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:13:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:13:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:13:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:13:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:13:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:13:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:13:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:13:15AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:13:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR
SESSION HELD ON JANUARY 8 AND THE SPECIAL CALL SESSION HELD
ON JANUARY 13, 2026, AND THE EVENING SESSION HELD ON JANUARY
15, 2026?
I HEARD A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 18, 40, AND 41 TO
FEBRUARY 19.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:13:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 40, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO ITEM 18, WAS MY
MOTION, AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THIS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT
IT DURING TREE CONVERSATIONS, BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT'S
NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TREE
TRUST FUND MONEY ON THIS AND THAT I WANT TO TAKE IT FROM THE
GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE IT TO, BUT FOR ME, I
DON'T -- IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY VOTE.
THEY ARE WELCOME TO CHANGE IT, AND I'VE HEARD MORE FROM THE
COMMUNITY SINCE THEN THAT YOU CAN MOVE IT, BUT MY OPINION IS
NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
9:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEMS 18,
40, 41.
9:14:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE AND I'LL
TELL YOU WHAT WHY.
YOU GIVE IT BACK TO WHOEVER YOU TOOK IT FROM.
9:14:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
9:14:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE 40 AND 41 -- 18, 40 --
9:14:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
18, 40, AND 41.
9:14:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK 41 NEEDS TO TRAVEL WITH THESE.

I JUST SPOKE TO CHIEF OF STAFF YESTERDAY.
THERE SHOULD BE AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT CONNECTED TO
THIS.
IF THERE WAS AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT WHERE ONE
DEPARTMENT SAID WE NEED TO BUY TREES FROM YOU FOR A CERTAIN
AMOUNT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD IT AND APPROVED IT IN
ADVANCE.
BUT WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPEN-ENDED CHECKBOOK, THE PUBLIC
DOESN'T LIKE THAT.
9:15:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO TO CONTINUE THE THREE ITEMS.
IS THERE A SECOND?
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 46 TO MARCH 26, 2026.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
9:15:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I TALKED TO STAFF YESTERDAY, CARL BRODY.

WHAT I RECOMMENDED AND YOU GUYS CAN GIVE HIM YOUR FEEDBACK
AS WELL AND TALK ABOUT IT THEN.
I RECOMMEND THERE WOULD BE A PROCESS THROUGH WHICH STAFF CAN
DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S CITY BUSINESS OR NOT.
IF IT IS CITY BUSINESS, CLEARLY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO
RECORDS.
AND THEN IF THE STAFF DECIDES THAT IT'S NOT CITY BUSINESS
FOR WHATEVER REASON, ULTIMATELY IT MIGHT COME TO AN APPEAL
OF THE COUNCIL.
AT LEAST HE'S LOOKING AT PUTTING IN A PROCESS LOOKING AT
OTHER CITIES.
9:16:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WE ALSO HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO MARCH 26,
2026.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:16:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS, I'LL BE
HONEST.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S UNDER RFP RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE IN A
CONE OF SILENCE AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT ALREADY.
I RECOMMEND YOU KEEP SENDING US YOUR THOUGHTS.
9:16:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 47 TO
MARCH -- I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID 46.
MOTION TO CONTINUE 46 AND 47 TO MARCH 26, 2026.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
TWO OTHER THINGS, ITEM 32 AT 1:30, JUST FOR YOUR NOTICE, IT
WAS MISNOTICED.
WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE SCHEDULE
WHEN WE GET TO THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
DURING NEW BUSINESS, I PLAN ON BRINGING UP THE CRC MEMO, FYI
FOR COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA?
9:17:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR SCHEDULING, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO
LEAVE AT 11:30, BUT I'LL BE BACK AFTER LUNCH.
9:17:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A BIRTHDAY TOMORROW?
ANYBODY?
NO.
OKAY.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER.
9:17:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OH.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU TODAY.
9:17:53AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FOR ITEM 4, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
9:17:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 4, YOU WANT TO PULL THAT SEPARATELY
FOR DISCUSSION?
9:18:03AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.

9:18:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 4.
9:18:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HEADS UP, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 14 AND 15 FOR
A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:18:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
14 AND 15 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
LET'S GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE UNLESS THAT HAS CHANGED.
IS THAT STILL TRUE?
VERY GOOD.
ITEM 34, STAFF WILL APPEAR TO DISCUSS THAT IN PERSON.
OKAY.
35.
ANYBODY NEED STAFF FOR THAT?
NO.
OKAY.
36?
NO STAFF.
37.
NO, NO STAFF.
38.
9:19:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES I SPOKE TO CHIEF OF STAFF AND
ADMINISTRATION AND MR. FOWLER ON THIS, I BELIEVE HE WILL BE
HERE LIVE.
AGAIN, AS I INDICATED, THEY CAN BE HERE VIRTUALLY IF THEY
LIKE.
YES, SOME SORT OF PRESENCE.

9:19:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
39?
42.
9:19:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
SOMEONE WILL BE HERE AS WELL AS MR. GARCIA.
9:19:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
43?
YEAH, I DO NOT REQUIRE STAFF.
ALSO, WOULD LIKE TO PASS THE GAVEL TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
FOR CLARIFICATION, WE NEED TO CLEAN THIS UP AND MAKE A
MOTION TO STRIKE PALM AVENUE FROM THAT FOR FUTURE REPORTS,
BECAUSE WE'LL CONTINUE THAT PROBABLY TO COLUMBUS.
9:19:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BEFORE I MAKE THAT
MOTION.
IS THERE A WAY SINCE THIS IS A WRITTEN REPORT THAT WE CAN
MOVE IT TO WRITTEN REPORTS?
9:19:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH.
LET'S DO THAT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 43, TO STRIKE TO PALM AVENUE
AND THEN CHANGE THE REPORT TO WRITTEN REPORTS.
9:20:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN AND A
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY MORE THOUGHTS?
9:20:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRANDON IS DOING A GREAT JOB ON THE
WRITTEN REPORTS.
THEY ARE VERY DETAILED, PROVIDING A LOT OF INFORMATION.
YES, IT IS A GOOD MOVE.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION.
9:20:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
9:20:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 44, FIVE-MINUTE QUARTERLY UPDATE.
I THINK WE NEED THAT ONE.
PROBABLY GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC, YES?
9:20:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BUT ALSO, WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK REPORT THAT IS A WRITTEN
STAFF REPORT.
I KIND OF FEEL LIKE SINCE THEY TRAVEL TOGETHER, WE SHOULD
MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER THESE ARE GOING TO BE WRITTEN
OR -- PRESENT -- BECAUSE --
9:21:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
9:21:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I FEEL LIKE
THEY ARE TRAVELING TOGETHER FOR A REASON, SO WE SHOULD
EITHER BE HEARING THEM TOGETHER AS ROADS AND SIDEWALKS OR
THERE SHOULD BE A WRITTEN REPORT AS ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.
THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.
9:21:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WRITTEN REPORT FOR ROADS AND SIDEWALKS IS
GOOD FOR ME.
9:21:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THIS WAS THAT THE
TOP TWO COMPLAINTS I HEAR ABOUT ROADS AND PARKS AND THE IDEA

IS TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION GIVE THE PUBLIC AN UPDATE ON
IT.
WE CAN READ THE DOCUMENTS, BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T ALWAYS
HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
WE LIMIT IT AT FIVE MINUTES AND QUARTERLY SO THAT THE FOLKS
CAN SEE IT.
FOLKS ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT POTHOLES DESPITE THE CITY
ADVANCING SOME OF IT.
NOW THEY ARE ALSO UPSET ABOUT ROADS BEING CLOSED.
9:21:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WE CAN COMBINE THESE TWO.
IF WE STILL WANT IT TO BE FIVE MINUTES OF VERBAL AND BOTH
COMBINED.
9:21:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE WORD SIDEWALKS
TO --
9:22:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
49.
COMBINE BOTH THE MOTIONS --
9:22:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
OR JUST ON 44, ADD, IT SAYS WHAT ROADS AND
THEN ADD IN "AND SIDEWALKS."
9:22:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
OKAY.
9:22:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
9:22:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR A PERSONAL -- AN IN-PERSON REPORT TODAY ON
SOMETHING WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL TOPIC THAT WAS --

9:22:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
9:22:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IN THE WRITTEN.
9:22:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR THE FUTURE.
9:22:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
9:22:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS ITEM IN THE FUTURE, ADJACENT TO WHERE
IT SAYS ROADS, WE WOULD ADD "AND SIDEWALKS."
THERE ARE TWO PLACES.
9:22:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO ADD THE LANGUAGE
"SIDEWALKS" AFTER ROAD ON ITEM 44 FOR FUTURE QUARTERLY
REPORTS.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:22:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN THE MEANTIME, THEY ARE COMING TODAY IN
PERSON.
9:22:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXACTLY.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 49, WE HAVE A WRITTEN -- WELL, WE'LL GET TO
THAT.
45.
9:23:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS MY BELIEF THIS IS WRITTEN.
9:23:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO NO STAFF.
VERY GOOD.

NOW WE GO TO 48.
ALL WRITTEN REPORT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 48, 49, 50.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:23:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO NUMBER 17
ON THE AGENDA, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT THAT IS NUMBER 39
THAT SAYS TO COME BACK WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON THAT
ITEM.
AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT?
9:23:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:23:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
9:23:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN'T REALLY MOVE 17 BECAUSE I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
9:23:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS.
THE SUBSTITUTE WAS -- SO 17 AND 18 WERE SUPPOSED TO TRAVEL
TOGETHER.
210 IS COMING OUT OF THE TREE TRUST FUND AND 125 WAS
SUPPOSED TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THOSE ARE
THE TYPE THREE TREES.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS STILL FIGHTING OVER THE 125,000 FROM
THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEY WANT IT TO BE PAID FOR BY THE
TREE TRUST FUND, AND I AND THE PUBLIC ARE SAYING, NO, WE

DON'T WANT THAT.
THEY ASKED TO CONTINUE IT, AND I SAID THEY CONTINUE IT.
THAT'S WHY I MADE MY SPEECH THEY CAN CONTINUE BUT I'M NOT
AGREEING WITH THEM.
9:24:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IF 17 HAS BEEN
FILED AS THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT'S REFERENCED IN
NUMBER 39, NUMBER 39 IS REALLY MOOT.
SO IT SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
9:24:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 39 FROM THE AGENDA.
9:24:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
SPEAKING OF REMOVING FROM THE AGENDA, BECAUSE OF THE MOTION
OF ADDING SIDEWALKS TO THE OTHER MOTION, WE PROBABLY SHOULD
REMOVE 49.
9:24:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FUTURE.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE FUTURE.
9:25:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOTION WOULD BE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
REPORT AND THEN --
9:25:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALREADY DONE THAT.
9:25:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, OKAY.
I MOVE TO REMOVE CM 24-7650 FROM BEING A RECURRING QUARTERLY
WRITTEN REPORT BECAUSE IT WILL BE ADDED TO CM 24-3585 GOING

FORWARD.
9:25:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THE AGENDA?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE?
MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD.
NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO OUR COMMENDATIONS.
THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE
EVERYBODY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
9:26:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS KATRINA HOUSE.

I AM WITH THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
I AM A 24-YEAR EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND I'M ALSO
THE CITY OF TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY PRESIDENT.
JOINING ME TODAY IS --
9:26:15AM >> JILLIAN HOWARD, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
9:26:17AM >> SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES.
9:26:20AM >> BARBARA TRIPP.
9:26:22AM >> SANDRA WILLIAMS.
9:26:24AM >> DEMETRIO JOSEPH, NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
9:26:30AM >> BOTH SANDRA AND DEMETRIO ARE OUR NEW CO-CHAIRS FOR THIS
YEAR'S CELEBRATION, SO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A HAND.
THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB PLANNING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A FORMAL INVITATION.
OF COURSE, HONORABLE MAYOR JANE CASTOR, OUR CHIEF OF STAFF
OVER THERE IN THE CORNER, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL, AND OUR PUBLIC TO JOIN US AS WE HOST OUR
38th ANNUAL CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION ON
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY THE 6th AT 11:00 A.M. AT THE TAMPA
CONVENTION CENTER.
THIS COMMUNITY EVENT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE CELEBRATION'S THEME THIS YEAR IS HONORING OUR VETERANS,
CELEBRATING 250 YEARS OF SERVICE AND STRENGTH.
OUR CO-CHAIR WILL PASS OUT A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR OUR TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL TO JOIN US IN SUPPORT OF THIS YEAR'S THEME,

WHICH RIGHTLY FRAMES THE TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION
AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMEMORATE OUR NATION'S 250th
ANNIVERSARY BY FORMALLY RECOGNIZING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO
HAVE KEPT AMERICA STRONG THROUGH SERVICE WITH OUR MILITARY,
WHICH WOULD BE OUR ARMED FORCES, ARMY, COAST GUARD, AIR
FORCE, MARINE CORPS, NAVY AND OUR SPACE FORCE.
MAYOR JANE CASTOR, ALONG WITH YOURSELF, WILL BRING GREETINGS
DURING THE CELEBRATION.
OUR EMCEE WILL BE MS. DEANNE KING FROM WFLA, NEWS CHANNEL 8,
OUR TRAFFIC ANCHOR AND AWARD-WINNING JOURNALIST.
SHE WILL SERVE AS OUR MISTRESS OF CEREMONY.
THE AUDIENCE WILL EXPERIENCE THE MELODIC VOICES OF
AWARD-WINNING GOSPEL RECORDING ARTIST MRS. PHYLLIS WONG.
I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THIS YEAR'S KEYNOTE ADDRESS WILL BE
DELIVERED BY A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY
COMMITTEE, OUR VERY OWN TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CHIEF AND U.S.
NAVY VETERAN BARBARA TRIPP.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE FIRE SERVICE, CHIEF
TRIPP HAS HELD POSITIONS AS OUR FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC,
PARAMEDIC FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, LIEUTENANT, CAPTAIN,
ACTING DISTRICT CHIEF, QUALITY ASSURANCE OFFICER, RESCUE
DIVISION SUPERVISOR AND RESCUE DIVISION CHIEF.
AND IN 2021, SHE WAS SWORN IN AS THE FIRST FEMALE FIRE CHIEF
OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.

[ APPLAUSE ]
WE WILL ALSO PRESENT OUR FIRST COMMUNITY HERO AWARD TO STATE
REPRESENTATIVE DIANNE HART FOR HER DECADES OF ADVOCACY,
SERVICE, AND COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY EXTEND
THIS INVITATION.
WE WANT YOU GUYS TO COME ON OUT.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING GREAT TO HAPPEN AS WE HONOR ALL
OUR MILITARY VETERANS.
JUST PLEASE COME AND SUPPORT US BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME NOW
THAT OUR NATION IS GOING TO BE CELEBRATING 250 YEARS, AND WE
ARE PROUD TO BE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY,
BUT CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ENCODER DISCONNECTION]
9:31:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AGREE, YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND EVERYONE, I FREQUENTLY SAY
ABOUT HOW LUCKY WE ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HAVE SUCH
AMAZING EMPLOYEES THAT REPRESENT THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE CULTURAL RICHNESS WE BEGIN AND
THE DIVERSITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT WAS REPRESENTED AT THE PODIUM TODAY.
AMAZING LEADERSHIP, AMAZING EMPLOYEES, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
WOULD NOT BE THE CITY OF TAMPA WITHOUT YOU ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING THE

VETERANS.
9:31:55AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF HONOREES, ABOUT 30 HONOREES.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY PERSONNEL.
A LOT OF THEM COME FROM OUR CITY OF TAMPA DEPARTMENTS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GREAT TURNOUT.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AFTER THESE 38 YEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:32:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING MY GOOD
FRIEND, REPRESENTATIVE DIANNE HART.
SHE'S MY RIDE AND DIE.
9:32:24AM >> YES.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE BUT WE HAD TO BREAK THE
NEWS TO HER.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:32:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, AGAIN.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO FOR A VERY
SPECIAL PRESENTATION.
9:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELL, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IT'S MY
HONOR THIS MORNING TO RECOGNIZE THE INTERNATIONAL
LONGSHOREMEN'S ASSOCIATION LOCAL 1402 FOR THEIR 90th
ANNIVERSARY.

WITH ME TODAY IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT MR. DAVIS AND ALSO WE
HAVE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, THE WONDERFUL COUNTY COMMISSIONER,
GWEN MYERS HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE SOME PHOTOS.
I'LL PUT THEM UP HERE.
SEE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE THIS THING.
HERE WE HAVE GOING BACK TO THE URBAN RENEWAL DAYS, WE HAVE
MR. C. BLYTHE ANDREWS, A NAME VERY WELL KNOWN IN THE
COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE MR. PERRY HARVEY SENIOR, I BELIEVE, IN THIS
PHOTO.
WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE WORKERS DOING WHAT THEY
DO.
SO THE HISTORY IS VERY RICH AND VERY DEEP IN THIS COMMUNITY.
FORMER PRESIDENT PERRY HARVEY JUNIOR, WE KNOW PERRY HARVEY
PARK NAMED AFTER THE FATHER, BUT PERRY HARVEY JUNIOR SERVED
ON THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THE FIRST BLACK MEMBER OF THE
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN THE 20th CENTURY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANCE TO THIS ORGANIZATION AND THE
WORK THAT THEY DO.
AND I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THE ORGANIZATION TODAY WITH THIS
COMMENDATION ON THEIR 90th YEAR, WHICH WAS 2025, THE
BUILDING, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR, IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER
FROM KID MASON AND WHAT WAS KNOWN AS CENTRAL AVENUE
NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE INTERNATIONAL
LONGSHOREMEN'S ASSOCIATION LOCAL 1402 UNION HALL ON 90th
ANNIVERSARY, LASTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO TAMPA'S BLACK
COMMUNITY AND LABOR HISTORY.
ESTABLISHED IN 1935, ILA LOCAL 1402 BECAME A CORNERSTONE OF
ADVOCACY AND COMMUNITY LIFE WITHIN TAMPA'S HISTORIC CENTRAL
AVENUE DISTRICT AND LATER RESIDED AT 703 EAST HARRISON
STREET IN A BUILDING CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN 1952 AND 1953.
THAT REMAINS ONE OF THE FEW SURVIVING MARKERS OF THAT ONCE
THRIVING AREA.
THE UNION HALL SERVED AS A CENTRAL GATHERING PLACE WHERE
LONGSHOREMEN AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT
ONE ANOTHER AND ADDRESS BOTH WORK AND DAILY LIFE.
EVEN AS A SURROUNDING DISTRICT WAS LARGELY REMOVED THROUGH
URBAN RENEWAL EFFORTS, IT IS THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S
PROFOUND HONOR TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION ON THIS 22nd
DAY OF JANUARY 2026.
AND -- GOOD MORNING.
9:35:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
9:35:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COMMISSIONER MYERS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SAY ANYTHING BEFORE I BRING UP MR. DAVIS.
9:35:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:35:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:35:39AM >> WHAT AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE AND BE A PART OF
THIS COMMUNITY.

I MUST SAY AND ADMIT, MY FATHER WORKED AT LOCAL 1402 AT ILA.
MY HUSBAND, MY LATE HUSBAND, RANDOLPH T. MYERS SENIOR, WAS
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL UNION.
TO CELEBRATE 90 YEARS AND THE WORKERS THAT WORKED ON THE
DOCK AND CONTINUED TO WORK, AND BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS JUST
SHIPS COMING IN, TODAY YOU HAVE CONTAINERS AND EVERYTHING
WHICH IS MAKING A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I SAY CONGRATULATIONS, CONTINUE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU
ALL ARE DOING.
MAKE SURE THE YOUNG PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE UNION AND BRING
THEM ON BOARD SO THE UNION CAN SEE 100 YEARS OR MORE.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
9:36:31AM >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF MY FRIENDS I SEE OUT THERE IN THE
AUDIENCE.
I BROUGHT THESE PIONEERS HERE.
BOTH OF THESE GENTLEMEN ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF OUR LOCAL.
THIS IS -- THIS GUY IS MY I.T. TECH.
THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE.
I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING HIS LEAD SINCE I GOT ON THE DOCKS
TRAVELING AND TRYING TO LEARN HOW THIS INDUSTRY WORKS.
WE ARE PROUD TO SAY THAT WE ARE A PART OF THE ECONOMICAL
GROWTH HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I AM PROUD THAT I'VE MET SOME PEOPLE THAT HAS REALLY GOT
BEHIND US.

MR. STEPHEN MICHELINI HAS BEEN A GREAT INSTRUMENTAL HELP TO
ME.
MRS. MYERS WHEN I ASKED FOR HELP ABOUT OUR BUILDING, THAT
ALMOST IS AS OLD AS THE INDUSTRY OF OUR LOCAL.
WE STAND HERE TODAY TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THINKING ABOUT THE
INTERNATIONAL LONGSHOREMEN WHO GO ON TO MAN THOSE CRUISE
SHIPS, MAN THOSE CONTAINER SHIPS, STEEL SHIPS, KEEP TAMPA
GROWING.
WE HOPE WE GET THAT PORT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SKYWAY SO
WE CAN RIDE OVER THERE.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE
DONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
I KNEW MR. PERRY HARVEY SENIOR PERSONALLY BACK IN 1974 WHEN
ELECTIONS PEOPLE WERE TURNING OUT ABOUT 40%.
NOW ABOUT 12, 18 PERCENT.
ASHAMED THAT'S WHAT IT IS TODAY WITH ALL THE ADVERTISING ON
OUR END.
MR. HARVEY SENIOR WHEN HE TOLD ME AT THE SAME LOCAL TALKING
ABOUT, 1402, AFTER I TALKED FOR HIM FOR A WHILE, ENDORSE
YOU, HOW MANY SIGNS DO YOU NEED?
I DON'T NEED ANY SIGNS.
ONE BUMPER STICKER.

JUST LEAVE IT ON THE DESK.
I'M TELLING YOU EXACTLY HOW IT WAS.
THEREFORE, WE ALWAYS HELP PERRY HARVEY JUNIOR WHEN HE GOT
ELECTED.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, TO YOUR ORGANIZATION, AND I KNOW HOW
MUCH YOU WORK AND HOW HARD YOU WORK IN ALL KIND OF WEATHER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:38:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. MICHELINI, YOU WANTED TO SAY
SOMETHING?
9:39:00AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
YES, SIR, COUNCIL.
LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
IN 1935, THERE WERE A SMALL GROUP OF BLACK BUSINESSMEN WHO
GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO TRY TO ORGANIZE
THE LABOR THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR THE GROWING PORT OF TAMPA.
THEY ASSIGNED AND ESTABLISHED THAT UNION, WHICH ACTUALLY
COVERED PINELLAS AT THAT TIME, RIGHT?
AND ALSO SOME OTHER PARTS OF MANATEE COUNTY.
THEY HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, AND THEY HAVE SURVIVED
THROUGH MANY, MANY TUMULTUOUS YEARS.
THEIR BUILDING AND ANDRE REFERENCED IT A LITTLE BIT, WE
RECEIVED A GRANT COURTESY OF THE COUNTY TO HELP RESTORE THE
ROOF AND THE WINDOWS, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CRA TO
FINISH UP THE REST OF THE PROJECT IN RESTORING THE BUILDING.
THEY HAVE A CRITICAL NEED AND WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY AND
ALSO THE CITY WORKERS FOR THE CRA FOR ALL THEY ARE DOING TO

HELP US REALLY ESTABLISH THAT BUILDING AND MAKE IT AN ICON
THAT IT ONCE WAS.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER NAYA YOUNG AND
LYNN HURTAK.
THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN OUT AND HELPED SERVE SOME OF THE NEEDY
ON SATURDAYS.
IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
THESE FOLKS GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T JUST TAKE JOBS AND GO OUT AND KEEP THE PORT
MOVING.
THEY GIVE BACK TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM FOR THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:40:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS ON 90 YEARS.
THAT'S AMAZING, AND I REALLY LOVE THE HISTORY.
THIS CITY HAS SOME PHENOMENAL LABOR HISTORY, ESPECIALLY FOR
A CITY IN THE SOUTH OF OUR SIZE.
WE'RE JUST -- WE'RE NOT AS BIG AS, SAY, SAVANNAH OR SOME OF
THE OTHER PORTS, BUT WE HAVE SUCH A RICH LABOR HISTORY.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO CARRY THE TORCH FOR THAT.
I'M HOPING THAT AS WE FIX UP THE BUILDING, WE'RE ALSO,
AGAIN, GETTING MORE MEMBERS AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, THAT

WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT LABOR'S VOICE IS HEARD IN
THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT IS OUR HISTORY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND CONGRATULATIONS,
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK WHEN ALL THE RENOVATIONS
ARE DONE AND SEEING HOW WONDERFUL IT LOOKS.
9:41:29AM >> LET ME SAY SOMETHING BEFORE YOU ALL CONTINUE.
9:41:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
9:41:32AM >> I WOULD BE REMISS TO NOT LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT
LONGSHOREMEN, WE NOW HAVE LONGSHOREWOMEN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
BUT BEFORE THE WOMEN, A LONGSHOREMEN MAN, WHETHER IT WAS A
GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE, THEY WERE LONGSHOREMEN, TOO.
WE HAVE ONE TODAY.
WE HAVE MS. DONNA LYNCH, THE WIFE OF MR. ALVIN LYNCH.
MS. DONNA, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME UP?
[ APPLAUSE ]
I DON'T WANT TO SAY I FORGOT THAT, BUT SOMETHING HAD TO
CLICK UP THERE.
WE APPRECIATE HER, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD HER IN FOR ANY REMAINING COMMENTS.
9:42:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
9:42:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, FOR BRINGING
THIS UP.
I KNOW YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS

GROUP.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND COMMISSIONER MYERS, THANK YOU
FOR COMING HERE TO HONOR THESE GOOD PEOPLE AND TELLING US
ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL FAMILY CONNECTION.
BETTY COLEMAN, FIRST FEMALE BLACK FIRE FIGHTER IN TAMPA A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, HER FATHER WAS A LONGSHOREMAN AS WELL.
WHEN I HEAR SOME OF THE STUFF, I THINK OF NAMES THAT MEAN SO
MUCH TO TAMPA AND THE PROGRESS WE MADE AND THE PROGRESS WE
HAVE TO PRESERVE, INCLUDING IN THE LABOR MOVEMENT, TODAY
WHEN THE MIDDLE OF THE ECONOMY IS CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM THAN
IT IS TO THE TOP FOR TOO MANY PEOPLE.
YOU ALL HAVE SUCH A PIVOTAL ROLE TO PLAY.
THANK YOU FOR THIS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
STEVE MICHELINI, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU.
9:43:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:43:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU ALL AND CONGRATULATIONS.
I REPRESENT SOUTH TAMPA.
WHEN FOLKS THINK ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA, THEY THINK IT IS ALL
RICH AND WHITE.
I ALWAYS REMIND THEM OF THE RICH HISTORY AND CULTURE THAT
THE LONGSHOREMEN CREATED IN THE ORIGINAL PORTS IN PORT TAMPA
AND ELSEWHERE.
STILL, YOU SEE THE DESCENDANTS OF THE LONGSHOREMEN THERE.

SOME FAMILIES HAVE OWNED HOMES FOUR, FIVE GENERATIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THEM GOT HIT BY THE STORMS.
THERE ARE CHURCHES.
THERE'S CULTURE.
IT'S GETTING GENTRIFIED OUT, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT I'VE COMMITTED TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO PRESERVE THE
HISTORY AND MANY FAMILIES TRYING TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU MENTIONED THE PORT AND THE
IMPORTANCE OF THE MARITIME INDUSTRY, WE SAW THE BANANA
DOCKS, WHICH WE LOST 20 YEARS AGO OR SO TO MANATEE COUNTY.
UNFORTUNATELY, ELECTED OFFICIALS OR WANNABE ELECTED
OFFICIALS WANT TO GET RID OF THE PORT AND PUT CONDOS.
THEY SAY IT IS WATERFRONT PROPERTY, WHY WASTE IT ON
INDUSTRY.
BIGGEST ECONOMIC OF THE REGION.
IT EMPLOYS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HIGH PAYING BLUE COLLAR JOBS
AND WITH THE UNION SUPPORTING FOLKS WITH BENEFITS AND OTHER
THINGS, IT'S A GREAT CAREER.
WE NEED MORE FOLKS.
THE INDUSTRY IS DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR MORE PEOPLE, WELDERS
AND OTHERS.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO KNOW THE MEASURES OF OUR
COMMUNITY ABOUT FINDING GREAT JOBS FOR PEOPLE AND BUILDING
CAREERS AND INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH, NOT JUST BUILDING

CONDOS.
THANK YOU.
9:44:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
9:44:51AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CONGRATULATIONS.
90 YEARS IS A HUGE MILESTONE.
I THINK WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, I WAS PROBABLY A WEEK IN, I
DON'T THINK I HAD BEEN SWORN IN YET BY THE TIME I CAME OUT
THERE WITH YOU ALL.
IT WAS SO GREAT TO BE OUT THERE AND SEE ALL OF THE WORK AND
THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU DO TO THE COMMUNITY.
CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THIS IS AWESOME.
9:45:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT'S NO SECRET THAT I AM A BIG LABOR SUPPORTER, BIG UNION
SUPPORTER.
LABOR BUILT AMERICA AND LABOR DEFINITELY BUILT TAMPA.
YOU CANNOT SEPARATE THE HISTORY OF THE LABOR MOVEMENT FROM
THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I APPRECIATE THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT YOU REPRESENT DO
FOR OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO
BUILD THE INDUSTRY AND PROVIDE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR
THE YOUNG PEOPLE TO COME IN.
WHEN THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE COME IN, SIGN THAT UNION CARD.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT REPRESENT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:45:54AM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:46:03AM >> WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK NOW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:46:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO BACK TO WORK.
PLEASURE SEEING YOU, COMMISSIONER.
LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR THE NEXT
PRESENTATION.
9:46:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
EVERYBODY COMING UP FOR THIS, COME ON UP.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
GREAT PLEASURE TO BE HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY.
JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER FEDERATION TO COME AND SPEAK ON
THIS.
WE HAVE DISTINGUISHED GUESTS HERE NOT JUST FROM THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY BUT FOLKS FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS AND BACKGROUNDS TO
SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE MS. PAMELA GARRON, DIRECTOR OF INTERGROUP RELATIONS
WITH TAMPA JCC AND FEDERATION.
WE HAVE MR. ERIC ARAPI, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALBANIAN
COMMUNITY AND FOUNDER AND CEO OF UNITED STATES SOLUTIONS OF
AMERICA.
WE HAVE SUNNY DUANN, PRESIDENT OF CHINESE CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE OF TAMPA BAY AND BOARD MEMBER, SUNCOAST ASSOCIATION

OF CHINESE AMERICANS.
WE HAVE NICOLE -- AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS -- NOWOGRODZKY.
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARGENTINIAN AND JEWISH COMMUNITY AND
COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP SPECIALIST OF EMPATH HEALTH.
WE HAVE JOSE "JOEY" OMILA, PUBLIC RELATIONS AND LIAISON
OFFICER, PHILIPPINE CULTURAL FOUNDATION AND MEMBER OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA MAYOR'S ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER
ADVISORY GROUP.
MR. ALAN COHN WITH GRAND HAMPTON AND A MEMBER OF THE JCC AND
CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBER AS WELL.
WE HAVE JEFFREY BURGER, PRESIDENT OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY
CENTER FEDERATION.
FROM CORY LAKE ISLES REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN HINDU
COMMUNITY, MR. SID SHAH, ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND A FRIEND
AS WELL FROM CORY LAKE ISLES.
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK ABOUT EVERY
YEAR, IS WE KNOW ABOUT 80 YEARS AGO WE HAD THE SYSTEMATIC
ATTEMPTED EXTERMINATION OF JEWISH PEOPLE.
SIX MILLION MURDERED IN THE HOLOCAUST, ABOUT 40% OR SO OF
THE WORLD'S JEWS AT THE TIME.
ABOUT 65% OF THE JEWS IN EUROPE.
SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TODAY THAN EVER IN THE TREE
OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE --
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO HEAR FROM THESE GOOD FOLKS.
9:48:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MANISCALCO FOR
INVITING US TO BE HERE TODAY TO SHARE THIS IMPORTANT
HISTORY.
MY NAME IS PAM GARRON.
DIRECTOR OF INTERGROUP RELATIONS WITH THE TAMPA JCC AND
FEDERATION.
IT IS AN HONOR TO BUILD BRIDGES BETWEEN TAMPA'S JEWISH
COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS OF DIVERSE CULTURES AND FAITHS
IN A CITY AS DIVERSE AS TAMPA, EVERY CONNECTION THAT I MAKE
IT MET WITH WARMTH AND CURIOSITY AND SHARED HUMANITY.
WE SHARE A COMMITMENT TO STANDING TOGETHER AGAINST HATRED
AND INTOLERANCE.
TODAY, AS WE COMMEMORATE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE
DAY, WE REMEMBER THE 6 MILLION JEWS AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS
MURDERED DURING THE HOLOCAUST.
WHILE MANY STOOD BY IN SILENCE OR FEAR, A SMALL MINORITY OF
NON-JEWS CHOSE COURAGE.
KNOWN AS THE RIGHTEOUS AMONG NATIONS, THEY RISKED EVERYTHING
TO SAVE LIVES AND PROVING THAT EVEN IN HUMANITY'S DARKEST
HOUR, ONE MORAL CHOICE CAN LIGHT THE WAY.
THESE RISK LIVES TO HELP THEM ESCAPE.
LIVING UNDER THE CONSTANT THREAT OF BETRAYAL, THEY CAME FROM
MANY COUNTRIES AND ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
THEIR STORIES ARE FROM EUROPE AND ASIA AND SOUTH AMERICA AND
BEYOND, REMIND US THAT EVEN IN THE DARKEST TIMES ONE

PERSON'S MORAL CHOICE CAN SAVE LIVES.
TODAY, YOU'LL HEAR FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF FIVE OF THOSE
COMMUNITIES.
TOGETHER, WE GIVE VOICE TO THOSE WHO NO LONGER CAN AND
AFFIRM A PROMISE THAT MUST GUIDE US ALWAYS, NEVER AGAIN.
IT'S MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE NICOLE, ERICA, SONNY, JOEY, AND
SID.
9:50:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
9:50:37AM >> SO, GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
I'M NICOLE NOWOGRODZKY.
MY FAMILY WAS FROM POLAND, BOTH SIDES.
BOTH OF MY GRANDPARENTS.
LUCKILY ON MY DAD'S SIDE, MY GRANDMA, SHE TOLD ME THE STORY
WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST AND EVERYTHING,
SHE LEFT THREE MONTHS BEFORE THE HOLOCAUST STARTED, AND SHE
SAID THAT THE WAY THEY FOUND OUT WAS THEY WERE ON A LIST IN
THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND WHEN THEY FOUND OUT, THEY WERE ABLE
TO ESCAPE.
THEY MOVED TO ARGENTINA.
ON MY MOTHER'S SIDE AS WELL IN THE 1930s, THEY ALSO FOUND
THAT THERE WASN'T THAT MUCH GOING ON WITH THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY AND THEY ALSO MOVED TO ARGENTINA.
ARGENTINA'S EFFORTS DURING ONE OF THE HISTORY'S DARKEST
PERIOD STAND AS A MEANINGFUL EXAMPLE OF THE HUMANITARIAN
RESPONSIBILITY AND MORAL COURAGE.

AT A TIME WHEN MANY NATIONS CLOSED THEIR BORDERS AND TURNED
AWAY FLEEING PERSECUTION, ARGENTINA MAINTAINED A
LONG-STANDING TRADITION OF WELCOMING JEW URBAN IMMIGRANTS.
BETWEEN 1933 AND 1943, THE COUNTRY OFFICIALLY ADMITTED
APPROXIMATELY 24,000 JEWISH REFUGEES ESCAPING THE RISE OF
NAZISM IN EUROPE.
BEYOND THIS, AN ESTIMATED 20,000 ADDITIONAL JEWS ENTERED
ARGENTINA ILLEGALLY BY CROSSING BORDERS FROM NEIGHBORING
COUNTRIES DRIVEN BY DESPERATION IN THE HOPE OF SURVIVAL.
DURING AND AFTER WORLD WAR II, ARGENTINA ACCEPTED MORE
JEWISH REFUGEES THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT ISRAEL.
FOR THOUSANDS OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS, ARGENTINA BECAME A
PLACE OF SAFETY WHEN FEW ALTERNATIVES EXISTED.
THESE POLICIES WERE NOT MERELY ACTS OF IMMIGRATION, THEY
WERE ACTS OF PRESERVATION OF LIVES, FAMILIES, TRADITIONS,
AND FAITH.
BY OFFERING REFUGE, ARGENTINA ALLOWED SURVIVORS TO REBUILD
THEIR LIVES, RAISE FUTURE GENERATIONS AND MAINTAIN THEIR
CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS IDENTITIES IN THE FACE OF GENOCIDE
THAT SOUGHT TO ERASE THEM.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:52:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ARIANA.
HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ALBANIAN COMMUNITY AND THEIR

SACRIFICE DURING THE HOLOCAUST.
THE HOLOCAUST STANDS AS ONE OF THE MOST DARKEST MOMENTS IN
HUMAN HISTORY.
ACROSS EUROPE, MILLIONS OF JEWS WERE PERSECUTED, DEPORTED
AND MURDERED UNDER A SYSTEM BUILT ON HATRED AND FEAR.
YET, EVEN IN THIS PERIOD OF MORAL COLLAPSE, THERE WERE
SOCIETIES THAT SHOWED A DIFFICULT PATH.
ONE OF THE REMARKABLE EXAMPLES IS ALBANIA.
BEFORE THE SECOND WORLD WAR, ALBANIA WAS HOME TO ONLY A FEW
HUNDRED JEWS.
AS NAZI PERSECUTION SPREAD ACROSS EUROPE, JEWISH FAMILIES
FLED NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES IN SEARCH OF SAFETY.
ALBANIA, DESPITE BEING OCCUPIED FIRST BY FASCIST ITALY AND
LATER BY NAZI GERMANY, BECAME A REFUGE.
BY THE END OF THE WAR, MORE THAN 2,000 JEWS WERE LIVING
SAFELY IN ALBANIA.
NOT A SINGLE JEW WAS HANDED OVER BY ALBANIANS TO NAZI
AUTHORITIES.
ALBANIA REMAINS THE ONLY EUROPEAN COUNTRY WHERE THE JEWISH
POPULATION INCREASED DURING THE HOLOCAUST.
THE EXTRAORDINARY FACT RAISES AN IMPORTANT QUESTION AS TO
WHY.
THE ANSWER LIES IN A DEEPLY ROOTED ALBANIA ROOTED PRINCIPLE
KNOWN AS BESA.
BESA MEANS KEEPING ONE'S WORD AND HONORING A SACRED PROMISE,

ESPECIALLY THE PROMISE TO PROTECT A GUEST.
IN ALBANIAN TRADITION, WHEN SOMEONE IS WELCOMED INTO A HOME,
THEIR SAFETY BECOMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOST, EVEN AT
THE COST OF THE HOST'S OWN LIFE.
DURING THE HOLOCAUST, BESA WAS NOT AN ABSTRACT IDEA.
IT WAS LIVED IN EVERYDAY ACTIONS.
ALBANIAN FAMILIES, JEWISH MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THEIR
HOMES FOR MONTHS AND EVEN YEARS.
THEY SHARED FOOD DURING TIMES OF SCARCITY, PROVIDED SHELTER
AND EVEN CREATED FALSE IDENTITY PAPERS.
JEWS WERE GIVEN ALBANIAN NAMES, TAUGHT LOCAL CUSTOMS AND
TREATED NOT AS STRANGERS BUT AS MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY.
WHAT MAKES ALBANIA'S ROLE MORE SIGNIFICANT IS THE INTERFAITH
COMMUNITY.
ALBANIA HAS LONG BEEN A COUNTRY OF MUSLIMS, CATHOLICS, AND
ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS.
DURING THE HOLOCAUST, THE RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCES BECAME
IRRELEVANT.
MUSLIM FAMILIES PROTECTED THE JEWISH FAMILIES.
CHRISTIAN VILLAGERS HID JEWISH REFUGEES.
CLERGY AND CIVILIANS ALIKE REFUSED TO -- NAZI DEMANDS.
THIS IS NOT PROTECTION BASED ON SHARED RELIGION BUT ON
SHARED HUMANITY.
IN MANY EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, RESCUE EFFORTS WERE LIMITED TO A
SMALL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS.

IN ALBANIA, HOWEVER, THE PROTECTION OF THE JEWS BECAME A
COLLECTIVE MORAL STANCE.
COMMUNITIES REMAIN SILENT WHEN QUESTIONED BY OCCUPYING
FORCES, LOCAL OFFICIALS REFUSE TO PROVIDE LIST OF JEWS,
ORDINARY PEOPLE CHOSE COURAGE OVER FEAR KNOWING THAT
DISCOVERY COULD MEAN IMPRISONMENT OR EVEN EXECUTION.
AFTER THE WAR, MANY OF THE STORIES REMAIN UNTOLD.
ALBANIA DID NOT SEE THEIR ACTIONS AS HEROIC.
THEY SAW THEM AS NORMAL AS WHAT ANY HONORABLE PERSON SHOULD
DO.
ONLY YEARS LATER, DID THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY BEGIN TO
RECOGNIZE.
NUMEROUS ALBANIANS HAVE SINCE BEEN HONORED AS RIGHTEOUS
AMONG THE NATIONS BY ISRAEL'S OFFICIAL HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL.
THE ALBANIAN EXPERIENCE DURING THE HOLOCAUST OFFERS AN
IMPORTANT LESSON FOR THE MODERN WORLD.
IT SHOWS THAT RESISTANCE TO EVIL DOES NOT ALWAYS REQUIRE
WEAPONS OR POWER.
SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES VALUES.
DEEPLY HELD ETHICAL PRINCIPLES THAT GUIDE BEHAVIOR EVEN IN
THE FACE OF DEATH.
IN A TIME WHEN HATRED WAS ENFORCED BY LAW AND VIOLENCE,
ALBANIANS CHOSE HONOR.
WHEN FEAR DOMINATED EUROPE, THEY CHOSE COURAGE.
AND WHEN INDIFFERENCES COULD HAVE SAVED THEM, THEY CHOSE

RESPONSIBILITY.
IN REMEMBERING THE HOLOCAUST, WE MUST REMEMBER NOT ONLY THE
VICTIMS BUT ALSO THE EXAMPLES OF HUMANITY THAT SURVIVED
WITHIN IT.
ALBANIANS REMIND US THAT EVEN IN THE DARKEST TIMES, SOCIETY
CAN CHOOSE COMPASSION OVER CRUELTY AND HUMANITY OVER HATE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:57:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
BY THE WAY, I'M ALSO THE MEMBER OF MAYOR'S AAPI COUNCIL FOR
THE CITY.
I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT THE LOCAL CHINESE COMMUNITY TODAY
AND SHARE A MEANINGFUL CHAPTER OF HISTORY ABOUT THE CITY OF
SHANGHAI DURING WORLD WAR II.
BETWEEN THE 1930s AND 1940s, MORE THAN 20,000 JEWISH
REFUGEES, MAINLY FROM AUSTRIA AND GERMANY FOUND SAFETY IN
SHANGHAI WHILE FLEEING NAZI PERSECUTION AT A TIME WHEN MANY
COUNTRIES CLOSED THEIR DOORS, SHANGHAI REMAINED OPEN AS NO
ENTRY VISA WAS REQUIRED.
ONE REMARKABLE INDIVIDUAL WAS DR. HALL.
THE CONSUL GENERAL OF REPUBLIC CHINA IN VIENNA.
DESPITE THE GREAT PERSONAL RISK, HE ISSUED THOUSANDS OF
VISAS TO JEWISH FAMILIES, ENABLING THEM TO ESCAPE AND TRAVEL
TO SHANGHAI, DISCOURAGES ACTIONS -- EARNING HIM THE TITLE
THE CHINESE SCHINDLER.

TODAY, HISTORY PRESERVED AT A SHANGHAI JEWISH REFUGEE
MEMORIAL MUSEUM IN THE DISTRICT WHERE THE ARTIFACTS AND
PERSONAL STORIES TELL HOW JEWISH REFUGEES REVEALED THEIR
LIVES IN SHANGHAI.
THE RECORD ALSO SAYS THERE WERE 408 BABIES BORN IN THAT
PERIOD OF TIME.
I WAS BORN IN SHANGHAI AND I'M DEEPLY GRATEFUL THAT MY
HOMETOWN SAVED -- AS A SAFE HARBOR DOING -- DURING ONE OF
HUMANITY'S DARKEST TIMES.
THE STORY REMINDS US THAT COMPASSION AND MORAL COURAGE CAN
CHANGE THE COURSE OF A HISTORY.
THANK YOU.
10:00:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE PODIUM, CAN YOU STATE
YOUR NAME FOR THE MINUTES, PLEASE.
10:00:23AM >> SUNNY DUANN.
10:00:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE?
10:00:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SHALOM TO ALL OUR FRIENDS WHO ARE FROM THE JEWISH COMMUNITY,
FRIENDS AND FAMILIES WHO ARE HERE TODAY.
MY NAME IS JOSE OMILA.
I AM HERE TODAY PROUDLY REPRESENTING THE PHILIPPINE CULTURAL
FOUNDATION INCORPORATED AND THE FILIPINA COMMUNITY OF TAMPA
BAY.

LIKE YOU, I'M HERE TO CELEBRATE THE COMMEMORATION OF THE
INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY.
PROBABLY YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THE HELL IS THE CONNECTION OF
THE PHILIPPINES TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.
THE PHILIPPINES RELATION WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE GOES BACK TO
THE YEAR 1600 WHEN THE FIRST JEWS CAME TO OUR COUNTRY
INVESTIGATING HOW WONDERFUL OUR COUNTRY WAS, BUT THE FIRST
SETTLEMENT OF THE JEWS BEGUN IN 1870 DURING THE SPANISH
COLONIAL ERA WHEN THE LEVY BROTHERS, WHO WERE ESCAPING FROM
THE WAR CAME TO OUR COUNTRY AS THEY ESTABLISHED THEIR
BUSINESS IN THE PHILIPPINES AND PROSPERED BY THE YEAR 1898.
THE FIRST AMERICAN JEWS ARRIVED ON OUR ISLANDS DURING THE
SPANISH AMERICAN WAR.
DURING WORLD WAR II, MORE THAN 1,000 JEWS ON A SHIP WERE
DENIED ENTRY ALL OVER THE WORLD WHEREVER THEY WENT, AFRAID
OF BEING INVOLVED IN THE WAR.
THE PHILIPPINES PRESIDENT MANUEL CAZON HEARD ABOUT THIS AND
ASKED THE SHIP TO SAIL TO THE PHILIPPINES AND WELCOME THE
JEWISH COMMUNITY THAT WAS ON BOARD ALREADY FOR MONTHS.
THE PHILIPPINES BETWEEN 1937 AND 1938, THE PHILIPPINES
RECEIVED MORE THAN 10,000 EUROPEAN JEWS.
IN 1947, THE UNITED NATIONS RECEIVED THE REQUEST OF A JEWISH
STATE IN PALESTINE.
AFTER SEVERAL VOTING FROM THE UNITED NATION ASSEMBLY, THE
VOTE ALWAYS ENDED UP AS A TIE.

MOST ASIAN COUNTRIES DID NOT VOTE.
SO, FINALLY, THE PHILIPPINE AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATION,
ROMELO, WHO ABSTAINED FROM VOTING AFTER THREE WEEKS OF
VOTING FROM THE UNITED NATION TRIBUNAL WAS ASKED TO
RECONSIDER.
AND FINALLY, WHEN THE VOTES CAME UP, THE TIE WAS BROKEN.
AND ON NOVEMBER 29, 1947, THE ONLY ASIAN NATION TO SUPPORT
THE BETWEEN THE PHILIPPINE VOTE, THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS
BORN.
TODAY, THERE ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE THAN 100 JEWISH
FAMILIES STILL LIVING IN THE PHILIPPINES.
TODAY, FILIPINOS GO IN AND OUT OF ISRAEL WITH NO VISA
REQUIRED.
TODAY, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 30,000 TO 50,000 FILIPINOS
WORKING IN ISRAEL, MOSTLY EMPLOYED IN VARIOUS SECTORS,
INCLUDING HOTELS AND AS CAREGIVERS.
TODAY, BECAUSE OF OUR LONG RELATION WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
ISRAEL AND THE PHILIPPINES REMAIN AS ONE FAMILY, RESPECTING
EACH OTHER, THE CULTURE, AND RELIGION AS WELL AS HISTORY.
THANK YOU, OR AS WE SAY IN THE PHILIPPINES -- AND AS THEY
SAY IN HEBREW --
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:04:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
10:04:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.

10:04:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:04:14AM >> I'M SUDHIR SHAH.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, GOOD MORNING AND NAMAST .
MY NAME IS SUDHIR SHAH.
I AM REPRESENTING THE HINDU AMERICAN COMMUNITY TODAY AND
RESIDENT OF TAMPA BAY FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS OR MORE THAN 40
YEARS.
I NOW RESIDE IN DISTRICT 7, REPRESENTED BY MY FRIEND,
COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AS WE
COMMEMORATE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBER REMEMBRANCE
DAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A STORY OF A REMARKABLE, YET LESSER
KNOWN ACT OF MORAL COURAGE, ONE THAT TOOK PLACE FAR FROM
EUROPE BUT STANDS FIRMLY WITHIN THE MORAL HISTORY OF THE
HOLOCAUST.
DURING WORLD WAR II, AS NAZI PERSECUTIONS SPREAD ACROSS
EUROPE, HUNDREDS OF POLISH CHILDREN WERE LEFT ORPHANED,
DISPLACED AND UNWANTED, MANY NATIONS CLOSED THEIR DOORS.
ONE MAN DID NOT.
A RULER OF A PRINCELY STATE IN INDIA WHERE MY FAMILY
ORIGINATES.
OPENED HIS HEART AND HIS LAND.
HE WELCOMED MORE THAN 600 POLISH JEWISH ORPHANS TO LIVE

SAFELY ON HIS ESTATE.
HE PROVIDED THEM SHELTER, EDUCATION, MEDICAL CARE, AND
DIGNITY.
HE TOLD HIS CHILDREN, WHO HAD LOST EVERYTHING, THAT THEY
WERE NOT REFUGEES BUT THEY WERE GUESTS.
AND HE WOULD BE THEIR GUARDIAN.
BECAUSE OF HIS COURAGE, HUNDREDS OF LIVES WERE SAVED.
THE STORY MATTERS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF WHAT IT TELLS US ABOUT
THE PAST, BUT BECAUSE WHAT IT DEMANDS OF US TODAY.
EVEN IN OUR OWN TIMES, RELIGIOUS MINORITIES CONTINUE TO FACE
HORRIFIC PROSECUTION.
IN PAKISTAN, ABDUCTION OF HINDU AND CHRISTIAN MINOR GIRLS
ARE TRAGICALLY COMMON.
MANY ARE FORCED TO BECOME MARRIED TO A MAN SEVERAL TIMES
THEIR AGE.
IN BANGLADESH, DOCUMENTED REPORTS AND VIDEOS OF HINDU
FAMILIES BEING BRUTALLY ATTACKED, HOMES LOOTED AND BURNED,
WOMEN GANG RAPED AND LIVES DESTROYED.
IN A RECENT INCIDENT, A HINDU MAN WAS BRUTALLY MURDERED.
HIS BODY HUNG FROM A TREE AND SET ON FIRE.
AS WE REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST, WE MUST REMEMBER THE SILENCE
AND INDIFFERENCE ALLOW SUCH ATROCITIES TO CONTINUE.
A LEGACY REMINDS US THAT MORAL RESPONSIBILITY DOES NOT END
AT BORDERS, FAITHS OR POLITICS.
MAY WE HONOR THE VICTIMS OF THE PAST BY STANDING FIRMLY FOR

HUMANITY IN THE PRESENT AND BY CHOOSING COURAGE OR
INDIFFERENCE WHENEVER INNOCENT LIVES ARE UNDER THREAT.
THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:08:03AM >> MY NAME IS ALAN COHEN, A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA JEWISH
COMMUNITY.
I AM A JOURNALIST.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR DOING THIS TODAY.
I REALIZE THIS IS NOT ONLY CONVENIENT TO TALK ABOUT THESE
ISSUES.
LORD KNOWS IT'S ACTUALLY CONTROVERSIAL.
MY DAD WAS IN THE INFANTRY IN WORLD WAR II.
HE WAS ONE OF THE U.S. SERVICEMEN WHO HELPED LIBERATE THE
CAMPS.
GROWING UP NEVER AGAIN INGRAINED IN US.
THE REALITY IS OUR COUNTRY HAS NOT ALWAYS TAKEN THESE WORDS
AND HEEDED THEM AROUND THE WORLD.
TODAY, WE SEE THE FORCES OF HATE RISE, NOT ONLY ACROSS THE
OCEAN, BUT HERE AT HOME.
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, HERE
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND IT COMES FROM BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT, WHICH MAKES
IT ALL THAT MORE IMPORTANT FOR GOOD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, FROM

ALL WALKS OF LIFE, FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS, ALL RELIGIONS AND
CREEDS AND COLORS, TO STAND UP TOGETHER AND MAKE REAL, NEVER
AGAIN, BECAUSE AS THE SAYING GOES, THOSE WHO FORGET HISTORY
ARE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:09:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:09:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYBODY FOR SPEAKING
FROM THE HEART.
I WOULD BE REMISS, I MENTIONED TREE OF LIFE SYNAGOGUE AND
THE MURDERS THAT HAPPENED THERE ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO.
THE REASON WHY THEY WERE TARGETED BY THE HATE-FILLED MAN IS
BECAUSE OF THEIR WORK FOR REFUGEES, CARRYING ON THE
TRADITION THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TODAY'S TIME.
THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING FROM THE HEART.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:10:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE MESSAGE OF HOPE AND
HUMANITY THIS MORNING.
IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED IN SOMETIMES DARK TIMES, THAT WE
REMEMBER THERE IS STILL GOOD IN THE WORLD AND WE ALL COULD
INDIVIDUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU.

[ APPLAUSE ]
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:10:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S COINCIDENTAL THAT WE LOOK LIKE WE
ARE DRESSED ALIKE.
IT WAS PURE COINCIDENTAL.
AND HE LOOKS MUCH BETTER NOW THAT HE IS DRESSED LIKE I AM.
10:10:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANYTIME I CAN BE LIKE CHARLIE, IT MAKES ME
BETTER.
10:11:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE NO WORDS, AND THAT'S RARE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE ONE ONLINE REGISTERED SPEAKER WE'LL START WITH.
FIRST -- BUT FIRST, BUT NEVER LAST, MARTIN SHELBY, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO READ THE RULES?
10:11:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
BRIEFLY TALKING ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR TODAY'S
MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING AFTER THE CEREMONIAL TO
ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES
OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE ITEM.
NOW, YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT CARDS OUTSIDE
THE CHAMBERS AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE

THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR NAME CALLED BY THE CHAIR AND
ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
AS I SAID, EACH PERSON WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY THE
CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, AND ONE AGAIN,
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MY APOLOGIES, THERE ARE NO SECOND READS
TODAY.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE ARE FIRST READS TODAY.
IF IT IS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCIL, I KNOW THE 1:30
HEARING IS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU WILL HAVE -- AND I BELIEVE NUMBER 30, THE PETITION,
COUNCIL ACCEPTS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL.
BUT YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN THOSE ITEMS ARE
CALLED UP.
BUT FOR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET AND THE ITEMS ON THE
STAFF REPORTS, YOUR TIME TO SPEAK IS NOW AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE MEETING.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR

THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES
OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT
CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH
YOU DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO THE
CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
10:13:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
FRANK LOGAN, ARE YOU IN THE ROOM?
FRANK LOGAN, ARE YOU HERE?
HE WAS REGISTERED FOR 1:30.
I WANTED TO BRING TO HIS ATTENTION IT IS A 1:30 HEARING.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH, GOOD MORNING, MY FRIEND.
10:14:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I HOPE EVERYBODY IS DOING WELL TODAY.

I'M EXCITED TO SHARE UPCOMING COMMUNITY WEALTH BUILDING
WORKSHOP, A CORNERSTONE OF THE TECHNOLOGY WEALTH BUILDING
AND JOB CREATION INITIATIVE.
PART OF THE ROME YARD PROJECT, THIS EFFORT INCLUDES A NEW
TRAINING CENTER, WORK FORCE AND BUSINESS HUB AND SET ASIDE
FOR SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY.
THIS MODEL IS SETTING THE NATIONAL STANDARD.
THESE WORKSHOPS ARE DESIGNED TO CHANNEL THE IMPACT OF
GENTRIFICATION BY ADVANCING ANTI-DISPLACEMENT STRATEGIES
THAT UPLIFT RESIDENTS RATHER THAN UPROOT THEM.
PARTICIPANTS GAIN TECHNICAL SKILLS FOR COMMUNITY BUILDING,
JOB CREATION, AND COMMUNITY SUSTAINABILITY.
BEGINS WITH BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS.
UNDERSTANDING LENDERS, CREATING PROFESSIONAL PROPOSALS AND A
BUSINESS PLAN TO RECEIVE FUNDING.
THEN WE MOVE TO MARKETING AND TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION.
EXPLORING -- ALONGSIDE LIKE ChatGPT, ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE, AND THE --
THESE SECTIONS EMPHASIZE INCLUSIVE STRATEGIES THAT HELP
CLOSE THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP.
WE FOCUS ON HOME-BASED AND E-COMMERCE ROLES, EQUIPPING WITH
THE STRATEGY TO LAUNCH AND EXPAND ONLINE AND WHOLE
ENTERPRISE, FOSTERING ENTREPRENEUR OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE IN
THE COMMUNITY.
NEXT, ADDRESSING RACIAL DISPARITY AND VIOLENCE.

DESPITE THE DECLINING CRIME, RACIAL DISPARITY CONTINUE.
BLACK HOMICIDE RATES REMAIN THE HIGHEST.
ON FEBRUARY THE 27th, A NATIONAL CALL FEATURING
REPRESENTATIVES FROM EIGHT OF THE MOST VIOLENT CITIES AROUND
THE NATION WILL CONVENE AND CONFRONT BLACK ON BLACK
VIOLENCE.
BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025, BLACK HOMICIDE RATE JUMPED FROM 2.6
TO 2.9 PER 100,000.
THE WIDENED GAP UNDERSCORES THE URGENT NEED FOR COMMUNITY
LED SOLUTION, AND SUSTAINABLE INVESTMENT IN PREVENTION AND
OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU.
10:17:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
10:17:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DID NEGLECT, I'VE BEEN
INFORMED I DID NEGLECT TO MENTION THAT WHEN YOU DO CALL THE
NAMES, PER COUNCIL RULES, PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE
SPEAKING ON THE AGENDA ITEMS FIRST.
10:17:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN PERSONS WHO
HAVE REGISTERED -- OR WHO FILLED OUT A CARD.
IF YOU HAVE FILLED OUT A CARD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT ONE OF
THE AIDES OUTSIDE HAS GOT THAT CARD SO THEY CAN PUT YOU IN
ORDER.
THE FIRST SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE INDICATED THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO

AGENDA ITEMS.
PLEASE RESTRICT YOUR COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEMS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ANTONIO DANIELS FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:17:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL --
10:17:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:18:01AM >> ANTONIO DANIELS.
I'M NOT HERE TO FLATTER YOU.
I'M HERE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ANTONIO DANIELS IS AN
EMBARRASSMENT TO THE CITY, TO THE COUNCIL AND VERY IDEA OF
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNANCE.
10:18:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIR, THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK
TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
10:18:17AM >> ANTONIO DANIELS WAS PEACEFULLY PROTESTING.
10:18:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN PUT YOU BACK IN ORDER.
10:18:22AM >> HE DID NOT THREATEN ANYONE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
YOU CALLED MY NAME.
10:18:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
10:18:29AM >> DID YOU NOT CALL MY NAME?
10:18:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU INDICATED YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
ITEMS.
PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.
10:18:36AM >> I'LL PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE.

NO, I DIDN'T, BUT YOU CALLED MY NAME.
10:18:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
10:18:44AM >> DID I INTERRUPT ANYTHING YOU SAID TODAY?
10:18:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SO SORRY.
AS THE ATTORNEY READ THE RULES --
10:18:49AM >> WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS NOT IMPORTANT.
10:18:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIR, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:18:54AM >> HOW AM I OUT OF ORDER WHEN YOU CALL MY NAME, SIR?
I'LL FINISH MY THREE MINUTES.
10:19:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
AGAIN, THE FIRST SPEAKERS ARE PEOPLE ON THE AGENDA.
WE GIVE YOU PREFERENCE BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE AGENDA.
I WILL CALL EVERYBODY ELSE AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE WITH THE
FOLKS ON THE AGENDA.
WE ONLY HAVE THIS MANY THAT HAVE REGISTERED TO BE ON THE
AGENDA.
DARYL HYCH.
GOOD MORNING, DARRYL.
10:19:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CITY COUNCIL, FOR CLARITY, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA
ITEM.
10:19:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL PUT YOU ON THE OTHER LIST.
VERY GOOD.
CONNIE BURTON.

FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
GOOD MORNING, CONNIE.
10:19:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ITEMS NUMBER 2, 25, AND 45.
FIRST, I WANT TO START OFF BECAUSE I'M IN THE SPIRIT OF DR.
KING THIS MORNING.
A YOUNG MAN AT 39 YEARS OLD ASSASSINATED, STATE-SPONSORED
KILLING.
25, 39, MOVING TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF HIS COMMUNITY.
WINNING THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, NOT BEGGING FOR IT, BUT GOING
TO ADDED AT 35 AND THE REMARKABLE THING ABOUT DR. KING, WHEN
HE GOT THAT PRIZE, HE SAID IN HIS OPENING COMMENTS THAT IF
HE WAS THERE TO DELIVER ON BEHALF OF 22 MILLION BLACK FOLKS
THAT WAS STILL CATCHING HELL.
RIGHT NOW, BLACK FOLKS STILL CATCHING HELL.
ITEM NUMBER 2, ONCE UPON A TIME, THAT WAS THE LIFELINE OF
BLACK MEN THAT HAD NO FORMAL EDUCATION, NOTHING BUT THE
DESIRE TO WORK.
NOW IT'S ALMOST HARD AS HELL TO GET DOWN TO WORK AT THE
UNION BASED ON NEW FEDERAL GUIDELINES, BUT YOU DID 25 YEARS
AGO MIGHT APPEAR AS YOU TRY TO GET ONE OF THOSE BADGES TO
WORK.
ITEM NUMBER 25, THE JACKSON HOUSE.
WE KEEP ON BEGGING FOR THE RESOURCES, JUST AS KING WOULD
SAY, BLACK PEOPLE AT THAT TIME IN 1964, ECONOMICALLY WE WAS

AT THE LOWEST RANGE OF ECONOMIC AND LACK OF EMPOWERMENT, THE
SAME WAY WE SEE THE JACKSON HOUSE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD.
WHERE ARE THE RESOURCES, WHERE IS THE COMMITMENT FROM THE
CITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN?
ITEM 45, I HOPE THAT REPORT ABOUT HOW COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE
CRITICISM -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL HATE SPEECH.
DR. KING SAID, RIOTS WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNHEARD.
IF WE ARE HERE THREE MINUTES TELLING YOU CONSTANTLY YEAR
AFTER YEAR OF HOW WE ARE SO DISGUSTED ON THE LACK OF
PROGRESS THAT THIS CITY HAS NOT DONE ON BEHALF OF THE BLACK
COMMUNITY, YOU WHO YOU VIEW IT, HOW YOU FEEL, WE DON'T CARE.
WE ARE THE PEOPLE OUR COMMUNITY, WE ARE THE ONES SUFFERING.
LAST WEEK, AS MENTESNOT WAS TAKEN AND ARRESTED, LET ME TELL
YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS HISTORY, WHEN THIS CITY REFUSED
TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET HE
SPONSORED TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL-FREE DANCES.
HE HAS STOOD ON THE FRONT LINE WHEN OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN
HIT WITH NOTHING BUT POLICE VIOLENCE AND THIS CITY REFUSED
TO SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING POLICIES.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SILENT.
HE BELONGS TO US.
HE BELONGS TO US.
HE REPRESENTS THE INTERESTS OF THE UNHEARD.
WHILE YOU GO ABOUT PUTTING YOUR LITTLE 45 -- I MEAN, ITEM
NUMBER 45 --

10:22:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CONNIE.
10:22:52AM >> -- MAKE SURE IT DO NOT ATTACK OUR RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH.
THANK YOU.
10:22:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
VALERIE BULLOCK.
GOOD MORNING.
FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA.
10:23:01AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE HILL.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 2, 4, 25 ALSO.
NUMBER 2 IS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT THE LONGSHOREMEN HAVE
BEEN FOR YBOR CITY AND CHANNELSIDE.
WE'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOREVER BEGGING FOR ECONOMIC
ENGINE IN EAST TAMPA.
NEW PEOPLE ON CRA BOARD, SAID OPEN UP A COFFEE SHOP.
THAT WILL HIRE TWO PEOPLE.
GUARANTEE YOU TWO PEOPLE WON'T HAVE HAIR LIKE MINE.
WE NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE, THE SAME WAY DOWNTOWN AND
CHANNELSIDE PURSUE COMPANIES TO COME DOWN THERE, YOU ALL
NEED TO PURSUE COMPANIES TO COME TO EAST TAMPA.
WE NEED MANUFACTURING PLANTS.
WE NEED DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSES AND ASSEMBLY LINE WORK.
FLORIDA STEEL, WINN DIXIE WAREHOUSE, BAG COMPANY, AND WE'RE
ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE VIOLENCE.
IF THE ECONOMIC GOES UP AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET JOBS,
VIOLENCE WILL GO DOWN.

BUT YOU GOT PEOPLE STANDING ON A CORNER, VALERIE, YOU GOT
ARRESTED IN 1991.
CALL THE POLICE IF YOU THINK I ESCAPED.
WHEN DO THAT STOP FOLLOWING ME?
WHEN DO I GET A FAIR CHANCE LIKE O'CONNOR, THE POLICE CHIEF
DID?
WHEN DO MY RECORD NOT MATTER?
ANOTHER THING, ITEM 4, EVERY TIME WE COME DOWN HERE, WHAT IS
IT ABOUT EAST TAMPA ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THEIR PROPERTY?
CLEAN UP THE YARD AND CHARGE THEM TWO TIMES FOR US CLEANING
IT UP.
WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE CRA RULES.
THE CRA RULES WAS DESIGNED FOR BLIGHT AND TO HELP THE PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE ME.
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS.
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS.
63 YEARS IN EAST TAMPA.
BUT MY NEIGHBOR, THEY RENTING AN APARTMENT.
NONE OF THAT CRA MONEY FOLLOW DOWN.
IT GOES TO THE MAN AT THE AIRPORT.
DREW NEWMAN IS A NICE GUY BUT HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN $5
MILLION FROM EAST TAMPA CRA.
CRA HAVE A CLAUSE IN THERE.
THEY CAN HELP THESE PEOPLE BRING THEIR PROPERTY UP TO CODE.
BUT WE ARE NOT USING IT FOR THAT.

WE ARE USING IT TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN.
WE MIGHT GET A ROOF FIXED HERE AND THERE.
YOU MIGHT GET WINDOWS FIXED IF YOU WANT THEM TO PUT A
30-YEAR LIEN ON YOUR HOUSE.
WE NEED TO MAKE THE FIELD EQUITABLE.
AS FAR AS THE JACKSON HEIGHTS, I'M TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT
IT.
I'M READY FOR YOU TO -- ABOUT IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:25:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T DO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A COURT ROOM.
[INAUDIBLE]
OTHERWISE I RULE YOU OUT AND ASK YOU TO LEAVE.
OKAY?
YOU HEAR THAT?
YES.
I AM CHAIR OF COUNCIL AND WE HAVE RULES.
I'M SORRY.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
LAST OPPORTUNITY.
LET'S JUST STAY SILENT AND CONFORM WITH THE RULES.
TARAH BLUMA FOLLOWED BY LASHOW T-I-M SOMETHING.
10:26:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M TARAH BLUMA.

IN THE COMING WEEKS YOU WILL DECIDE HOW TO SPEND THE $5
MILLION IN LEFTOVER FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR.
PLEASE REMEMBER SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN YOU DO SO.
SOG HAS EXPLODED ADDING OVER 9,000 NEW UNITS IN THE PAST
NINE YEARS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GREEN PAPER I JUST
PASSED OUT.
AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THESE UNITS, WE
CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN $11 MILLION IN TAXES ADDITIONAL PER
YEAR FOR THIS CITY.
JUST FROM THOSE UNITS.
WE DEAL WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, NOISE, AND FLOODING.
WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMETHING FOR ALL OF THAT TROUBLE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ASKED OVER A YEAR AGO FOR A BREAKDOWN IN
CITY SPENDING BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
THAT INFORMATION WAS NEVER PROVIDED.
IF IT HAD BEEN PROVIDED, WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE SHOCKING
DISPARITY.
I HAVE A FEW PICTURES FOR YOU OF WHAT OUR PARKS LOOK LIKE IN
SOUTH OF GANDY RIGHT NOW.
FOR OUR EXTRA TEN MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN TAXES.
EVERY TIME IT RAINS AT BOBBY HICKS, IT BECOMES A SWIMMING
POOL.
WE HAVE GRAFFITI ALL OVER OUR PARKS.
CAMPING.
AND ABOUT HALF THE SHOPPING CARTS IN THE CITY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR OUR EXTRA $10 MILLION.
I REQUEST THAT 3 AND A HALF MILLION OF THE EXCESS FUNDS BE
SPENT REPAIRING AND UPGRADING THE PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA,
SPECIFICALLY SOUTH OF GANDY.
WITH MY EXTRA TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I WAS
GOING TO TALK ABOUT LAST WEEK WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
THE DOCK REPAIRS AT JBL.
NOT BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT BECAUSE IT
HIGHLIGHTS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND SPENDING TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.
FIRST IT WENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO YOU WOULD APPROVE
300,000 IN VAGUE DOCK REPAIRS.
THERE WAS NO INFORMATION GIVEN TO YOU AS TO THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
WHAT HAPPENED?
WHEN DID IT HAPPEN?
YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
ONLY WHEN YOU WERE ASKED WERE YOU TOLD THAT SOMEONE HIT THE
DOCK.
OKAY.
WHO HIT THE DOCK?
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, FOR ASKING IF WE HAD
INSURANCE.
I ALSO WOULD HAVE ASKED DID THE PERSON WHO HIT THE DOCK HAVE
INSURANCE?

ARE WE TRYING TO RECOUP COSTS FROM THAT GUY?
IF WE LEARNED THAT, YES, WE CAN FILE A CLAIM, BUT IT WOULD
TAKE TOO LONG.
THE DOCK REPAIRS AT BALLAST POINT PARK ARE TAKING TOO LONG
AS WELL, AND IF WE OPENED OURSELVES UP TO LIABILITY EVERY
TIME WE DIDN'T REPAIR SOMETHING THAT WAS A SAFETY HAZARD,
BALLAST POINT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AT LEAST A FRACTION OF THIS
SENSE OF URGENCY.
THANK YOU.
10:29:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, TARA.
LASHUA FOLLOWED BY -- L-A-S -- IS IT -- L-A-S-H-A-U OR W.
SHE LEFT.
OKAY.
STEVE MICHELINI.
10:29:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 17, 18, AND 39.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE CONTINUED THAT.
HOWEVER, THE ISSUE IS THE BUILDERS WERE CHARGED WITH PAYING
THE FEES FOR TREES THAT THEY COULD NOT PLAN ON THE SITE, AND
THERE WAS A LOT OF MONEY SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT.
COUNCIL HAS ALREADY GONE ON THE RECORD SAYING, NO, DO NOT
USE TREE TRUST FUND MONEY FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
I'M NOT SURE WHEN NO MEANS NO.
DOESN'T MEAN MAYBE.
DOESN'T MEAN COME BACK IN A MONTH, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS.

IT MEANS NO.
FOR A LONG TIME, THE BUILDERS HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF NOT DOING
THEIR PART, FOR NOT GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT
HOLDING THE CODE IN HIGH ESTEEM.
IT GETS TIRING WHEN YOU PUT MONEY INTO AN ACCOUNT --
PREVIOUSLY, THEY LOST $5 MILLION THAT WENT FOR PLANTINGS OF
FLOWERS ON BAYSHORE.
JUST LOST.
IT WASN'T ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING.
AND NOW THERE'S $3 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT AND THEY ARE
TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
TYPE 1 TREES AND TYPE 2 TREES IS WHAT IS REQUIRED.
THAT'S WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
IT'S SHADE TREES, NOT ORNAMENTALS.
AND WHEN YOU PUT YOUR MONEY IN THERE AND YOU TAKE IT AWAY
FROM A HOME OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEING BUILT, IT SHOULD GO
TO WHERE ITS INTENDED PURPOSE AND NOT BE USED AS A PIGGY
BANK TO FUND SOMETHING ELSE.
IT GETS TIRING TO COME BACK UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, PLANT THE
TREES.
THE CRITERIA FOR PLANTING A TREE IS VERY DIFFICULT.
CHAIR, YOU HAVE CALLED ME OUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO TO GET A
TREE FOR SOMEBODY.
STEPHANIE POYNOR IN THE BACK, YOU CALLED ME OUT AND SAID GET
HER A TREE.

WE WENT TO WORK GETTING HER A TREE.
THE REGULATIONS ARE SO ONEROUS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PLANT
TREES.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND LOOK AT THE CRITERIA
THAT THEY ARE USING TO ENABLE YOU TO GET A TREE.
THE TREES ARE THERE.
THE MONEY IS THERE.
LET'S USE IT FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSE AND NOT USE THE TREE
TRUST FUND AS A PIGGY BANK TO RAID IT FOR SOME OTHER
PROJECT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEMS.
WE'LL START WITH ANTONIO DANIEL FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH.
ANTONIO.
GOOD MORNING.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:32:28AM >> SHOULD HAVE LET ME SPEAK THE FIRST TIME.
AS I WAS SAYING, ANTONIO DANIELS WAS PEACEFULLY PROTESTING
PEACEFULLY.
HE DID NOT THREATEN ANYONE.
HE DID NOT INCITE VIOLENCE.
HE DID NOT DISRUPT THIS MEETING ANY MORE THAN DISAGREEMENT
ITSELF NATURALLY DOES IN A DEMOCRACY.
WHAT HE DID WAS EXPRESS AN OPINION YOU DIDN'T LIKE.

FOR THAT, HE WAS ARRESTED AND TRESPASSED.
THAT SHOULD ALARM EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM.
THIS IS A GROWN COUNCIL.
ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
ADULTS ENTRUSTED WITH POWER AND YET WHEN CONFRONTED WITH
DIVERSE OPINIONS, OPINIONS FROM A MAN WHO HAS STOOD FOR THIS
COMMUNITY FOR DECADES, THE RESPONSE WAS NOT A DIALOGUE, NOT
PATIENCE, NOT LEADERSHIP.
THE RESPONSE WAS PUNISHMENT.
LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT FREEDOM OF SPEECH ONLY WHEN IT
IS COMFORTABLE, POLITE, OR FLATTERING.
IT EXISTS PRECISELY FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS WHEN SOMEONE
CHALLENGES POWER, WHEN SOMEONE MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE, WHEN
SOMEONE REFUSES TO BE QUIET JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SEATED
BEHIND A DAIS.
ANTONIO DANIELS WAS NOT TRESPASSED BECAUSE --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:33:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SPEAKER.
THIS IS HIS THREE MINUTES TO EXPRESS HIS OPINION.
10:33:50AM >> I'M HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME.
HE WAS TRESPASSING BECAUSE HE WAS INCONVENIENT AND THAT
RAISES A SERIOUS QUESTION.
IF YOU CAN TRESPASS A MAN PUBLIC CITY COUNCIL MEETING FROM

PEACEFULLY EXPRESSING, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NEXT?
TRESPASSING FROM PROTESTING ON THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE THIS
BUILDING, FROM SPEAKING AT A RALLY, FROM EXISTING ANYWHERE
IN YOUR POWER WITH AN OPINION YOU DON'T LIKE.
THAT'S NOT GOVERNANCE.
THAT IS FRAGILITY MASQUERADING AS AUTHORITY.
THE CITY IS FACING REAL PROBLEMS.
HOUSING INSTABILITY, RISING COST OF LIVING, PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS, INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES, ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS.
I CAN GO ON.
AND INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THOSE, THIS COUNCIL CHOSE TO
FIXATE ON WHAT ONE PERSON WAS WEARING AND HOW ONE VOICE MADE
YOU FEEL.
THIS CITY, THAT IS SMALL AND THAT IS SERIOUS.
FRANKLY, IT IS BENEATH THE OFFICE YOU HOLD.
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO COMFORT.
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO PRAISE.
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO SILENCE FROM PUBLIC.
YOU ARE ENTITLED ONLY TO ACCOUNTABILITY.
I'LL BE ON YOUR ASS.
10:35:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ANTONIO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:35:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
ONE MORE TIME.

I'LL ASK YOU TO LEAVE.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE DECORUM.
DARYL HYCH FOLLOWED BY MARTY GREEN.
10:35:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
DARYL HYCH.
WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY GROWING UP IN THE CHURCH, MY DAD
USED TO READ THIS SCRIPTURE TO ME.
MALACHI THIRD CHAPTER 8 THROUGH THE 18 VERSE.
AND IT READS: WILL A MAN ROB GOD?
YET YOU HAVE ROBBED ME.
BUT YOU SAY, WHEREIN HAVE YOU ROBBED ME?
IN TITHES AND OFFERING.
YOU ARE CURSED WITH THE CURSE, FOR YE HAVE ROBBED ME, EVEN
THIS WHOLE NATION.
BRING YE ALL THE TITHES INTO THE STOREHOUSE, THAT THERE MAY
BE MEAT IN MINE HOUSE AND PROVE ME DOWN HERE WITH, SAYS THE
LORD OF HOST, IF I WOULD NOT OPEN THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN AND
POUR YOU OUT A BLESSING SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ROOM
ENOUGH TO RECEIVE IT, AND I WILL REBUKE THE DEVOUR FOR YOUR
SAKE.
AND HE SHALL NOT DESTROY THE FRUIT OF YOUR GROUND, NEITHER
SHALL YOUR VINE CAST HER FRUIT BEFORE ITS TIME.
ALL NATIONS SHALL CALL YOU BLESSED FOR YOU SHALL BE
DELIGHTSOME LAND SAID THE LORD OF HOST.

I BRING REFERENCE TO THAT SCRIPTURE -- OR LET ME BRING YOU
SOME CONTEXT.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE LEVITICAN PRIESTS WERE RESTRICTED
OR HELD BACK GOING IN WORKING OUT IN THE FIELD, LET'S SAY.
THEY WERE HELD BACK.
THEY WERE RESTRICTED FROM GOING OUT AND HAVING AN INCOME
SOURCE TO COME IN.
THEY WERE THEN BEING FED BY WHAT WAS IN THE STORE HOUSE.
WHAT WAS IN THE STORE HOUSE WAS SET ASIDE FOR THEIR
SUBSTANCE FOR THEM TO EAT, FOR THEM TO DRINK, FOR THEM TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY.
WHEN I READ ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE AND THOUGHT ABOUT SOMETHING,
HOLD ON, THE LEVITICAN PRIESTS WERE RESTRICTED, HAD SOME
THINGS THAT SAID THEY COULDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO
DO.
GOD SAID TO THE PEOPLE, RESTORE THE STORE HOUSE.
GIVE THEM BACK WHICH WAS THEIRS.
BRINGS ME BACK TO RESOLUTION 568.
BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GOING BEFORE GOD FOREVER FOR THE
LAND, AND AS WE GO BEFORE GOD FOR THE LAND, WE FIND
OURSELVES IN SHIPS COMING TO THE U.S. FOR SLAVERY.
AS WE GOT OVER TO THE U.S., WE GOT PUNISHED.
WE GOT OUR LIVELIHOOD TAKEN AWAY FROM US.
WE SUFFER AT THE HANDS OF WHITE SLAVERY, JIM CROWISM, AND
ALL THE THINGS YOU SAID IN RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.

SO, TODAY, ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURE, YOU ARE CURSED WITH
THE CURSE FOR YE HAVE ROBBED GOD'S PEOPLE.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT ROBBERY, YOU CAN GET THIS THING RIGHT
WHERE HE SAYS I WILL RESTORE BACK TO YOU.
10:38:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DARYL.
10:38:26AM >> CORRECT THE WRONG.
10:38:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MARTY GREENE FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY POOLE.
MARTY GREENE FIRST.
IS MARTY IN THE HOUSE?
MARTY IS HERE.
COME ON, MARTY, FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY POOLE.
YOU WILL BE NEXT.
10:38:49AM >> MY NAME IS MARTY GREENE.
I GOT A COUNTY UNIFORM ON BECAUSE THEY SAID I CAN'T WEAR THE
CITY UNIFORM.
BUT THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN ME UNIFORMS IN LIKE THREE YEARS.
ON JANUARY 12, I NOTIFIED HR.
I LET THEM KNOW THAT AN EMPLOYEE SAID THAT MICHAEL BROWN WAS
COMING BACK AND COMING BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.
FOR EVERYONE WHO TOLD ON HIM.
TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE RETALIATION.
I'LL GO FARTHER AND SHOW HOW DOES THIS WORK.
THIS IS WHERE MR. BROWN HAS GOT WROTE UP.
AFTER FULLY INVESTIGATING ABOVE INCIDENT, IT BEEN CONCLUDED

THAT HE FILED A FALSE REPORT AGAINST ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO TRY
TO GET THEM FIRED.
MR. BROWN ALSO STATED HE HAS USED HIS POSITION TO TRY TO GET
EMPLOYEES FIRED.
NOW, I WANT TO SAY, I CAME FOR A THOUSAND REASONS.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAME FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHAT MR. BROWN HAS ROBBED EMPLOYEE FOR.
HE TOOK A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A TRUCK SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN
BOUGHT.
MR. BROWN TOOK THE TRUCK BACK AND TOLD THE EMPLOYEE HE'S NOT
PAYING HIM.
THEREFORE, ALL THIS WAS GOING ON AND THE CITY IS NOTIFIED,
ALL THE CROOKED STUFF FROM MR. BROWN, HE'S BEEN DOING AND
STILL DOING.
IT SHOWS IN THE PAPERWORK THAT MR. BROWN, HE WILL LIE,
STEAL, DO EVERYTHING IN TO MOVE FORWARD AND USE HIS POSITION
AS POWER TO DO ANYTHING TO EMPLOYEES.
NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA FIRED CHIEF O'CONNOR, BECAUSE -- I
SHOWED YOU TEXT MESSAGES THAT I PAID -- MR. BROWN WAS FORCED
TO PAY MR. BROWN TO WORK OVERTIME.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND KEITH O'CONNOR?
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
MR. KEITH O'CONNOR, MR. BROWN STILL HERE, KEITH SHOULD STILL
BE HERE AS WELL.
MR. BROWN DEFINITELY BEEN IN THE INVESTIGATION.

I DONE WROTE THE DOWNTOWN AND ASKED THEM, HEY, IS MR. BROWN
UNDER INVESTIGATION?
WHAT'S GOING ON?
THEY WOULD NOT ANSWER MY REQUESTS, WHICH THAT IS AGAINST THE
LAW.
UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AND I
DID IT ASKING AS A PUBLIC SERVANT -- I MEAN, AS A PUBLIC
PERSON WHO I AM.
NOW SAYING THAT TO SAY THIS.
THAT THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT MR. BROWN TOOK, NOW THAT YOU ALL
KNOW ABOUT IT, YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT WOULD A PERSON DO FOR A
THOUSAND DOLLARS.
NOW YOU RISK GETTING SOMEONE HURT, RISK GETTING SOMEONE
KILLED ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A PERSON GOING THROUGH IN THIS ECONOMY
AND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, JOHN BENNETT NEED TO WATCH OUT BECAUSE FDLE
IS INVESTIGATING HIM AND SUSAN.
I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
I HAVE MORE FOR YOU.
10:41:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
TIFFANY POOLE FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
10:41:53AM >> MY NAME IS TIFFANY POOLE.
I'M A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.
I'M ALSO A CITIZEN.

USUALLY OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I USUALLY VOTE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I'M NEVER USUALLY WITH THE CITY.
I GOT TWO THINGS.
I JUST FINISHED WITH BRAIN SURGERY.
THANK GOD I'M ALIVE, FIRST OF ALL.
TO MY FELLOW CITIZENS, I HAVE CHILDREN.
FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
I'M LATE ON ONE OF THEM.
66.
IT WAS AN OLD ONE WITH THE BIKES.
MY SON RIDE AN E-BIKE.
YOU ALL DOING THESE FINES.
I HATE THAT.
IF MY BABY EVER GET A FINE, YOU ALL GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE
WITH ME.
BECAUSE MY BABY DESERVE THE CATWALK AS WE USED TO CALL IT IN
THE '80s, HE CAN CATWALK HIS BIKE.
I BE DAMN AND I'M A CHRISTIAN, IF HE GOING TO GET A DAMN
CITATION FOR CATWALKING OR WHEELYING ON HIS BIKE.
HE CAN GO DOWN TO THE RIVERWALK BECAUSE I PAY TAXES.
AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THE CITY AND GO BACK TO THE COUNTY
AND VOTE OVER THERE.
BUT I'M GOING TO VOTE ONE MORE TIME FOR THE CITY BEFORE I
LEAVE HERE.

AND ONE MORE OTHER THING, ABOUT MR. DANIELS, WHY IS THAT MAN
LOCKED UP?
FOR A BRA.
I DONE SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE UP ON KENNEDY WITH ALL KIND OF
CRAZY STUFF PROTESTING AND THEY DON'T GET ARRESTED.
PEOPLE COME UP HERE ALL THE TIME.
I WATCH IT ONLINE WITH ALL KIND OF STUFF THEY SAY.
AND THEY NEVER GET LOCKED UP BECAUSE WENT DOWN TO DAVIS
ISLAND AND SHOWED HIS BUTT.
HE CAN SAY WHAT HE WANT TO SAY.
A GROWN MAN.
I'M SORRY.
YOU ALL GOT TO GET YOUR ALL EMOTIONS OUT OF STUFF.
THIS MAN SHOULD NOT STILL BE LOCKED UP.
I COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD AUGUST 15.
THIS MAN SHOULD BE OUT OF JAIL.
HE'S SHOWING THESE KIDS THEY CAN GET A BIG HOME IN THE HOOD.
WHEN YOU PASS BY 22nd, YOU'LL SEE A BIG HOUSE THAT I DON'T
HAVE.
GOD KNOWS I WANT ONE AND I'M GOING TO GET ME ONE.
BUT HE HAS ONE.
A BRA OR NO BRA, GOD DAMN IT HE CAME IN HERE WITH ONE ON AND
HE SHOWED YOU ALL, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY HOW HE CAME WITH IT.
MAYBE HE CAN EXPLAIN WHY HE CAME WITH WHAT HE CAME ON.
BUT THAT MAN SHOULD BE OUT SO HE CAN DO WHAT HE NEED TO DO.

HE'S HERE ALL THE TIME PROTESTING AND SAYING WHAT HE NEED TO
DO WHEN SOME OF US CAN'T DO.
BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN'T BE HERE ALL THE TIME.
BUT I THANK GOD I'M HERE TODAY TO WITNESS A LOT OF STUFF
THAT GO ON IN HERE THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO WITNESS.
IT'S SAD WHAT GOES ON HERE.
THERE'S SOME GOOD STUFF BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO SEE THE BLACK
HISTORY THING THAT I'M GOING TO ATTEND.
10:44:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POOLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER IS ASHLEY MORROW FOLLOWED BY JOHNNY JOHNSON.
GOOD MORNING, ASHLEY.
10:45:12AM >> HELLO.
I'M ASHLEY.
I'M SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE FREEDMAN'S BUREAU.
I TALKED ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD DOCUMENTS WHERE PEOPLE WERE
ABLE TO COME, BLACK PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO COME AND HOMESTEAD
PROPERTY.
I ACTUALLY WANTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK.
BECAUSE BEFORE THE FREEDMAN'S BUREAU CAME HERE, THERE WAS AN
INSPECTOR THAT CAME BY THE NAME OF GEORGE THOMPSON.
WHEN HE CAME HERE, DECEMBER OF 1865.
SLAVERY HAD RECENTLY ENDED.
HE NOTATED -- NOTICED AND OBSERVED BACK PEOPLE IN THE AREA

WORKING A DOLLAR PER DAY.
THAT WAS THE RATE FOR LABOR.
HE WAS TRY TO GET SOMEBODY TO TAKE HIM FROM TAMPA TO FORT
MYERS AND HE COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY BECAUSE NOBODY WAS
WILLING TO WORK FOR LESS THAN A DOLLAR.
THAT SPEAKS TO OUR LABOR AND OUR HISTORY.
I FEEL THEY KNEW THEIR WORTH.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
ALSO DURING THAT TIME, KU KLUX KLAN WAS BREWING IN CENTRAL
FLORIDA IN BROOKSVILLE BY A MAN OF THE NAME OF WALTER T.
SAXON.
SAXON MANOR THAT THEY HAVE WEDDINGS STILL IN BROOKSVILLE,
THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH.
I'LL SHOW YOU PICTURES.
I'LL DO THE SPEAKING FIRST SO I DON'T GET LOST.
HE WAS ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS OF THE KU KLUX KLAN IN HERNANDO
COUNTY DURING THAT TIME, A LOT OF UNREST IN TAMPA.
THERE WAS A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT WAS SHOWN IN NEW ORLEANS
ABOUT HOW THERE WERE NOSES AND HEADS BEING BROKEN BY THE
MILITARY AND NEGROES.
THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF BIG BRAWL THAT WAS NOT REPORTED IN
OUR NEWSPAPER, BUT IT WAS REPORTED IN THEIRS FOR SOME
REASON.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
DURING THAT SAME, CYRUS CHARLES BECAME THE FIRST BLACK CITY

COUNCILMAN.
HE DIDN'T SERVE BECAUSE THEY DISSOLVED THE CITY.
THEY DID NOT WANT SOMEBODY BLACK IN LEADERSHIP DURING THAT
TIME, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT THEY
BECAME THE COUNTY OF HILLSBOROUGH AND CYRUS CHARLES AND
MILLS HOLLERMAN SERVED AS FIRST BLACK COUNCILMEN HERE IN
THIS AREA.
CYRUS CHARLES ACTUALLY OWNED A SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS WHERE
THE, I WANT TO SAY THE STRAZ CENTER IS CURRENTLY.
HERE ARE SOME ARCHIVES THAT YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AT THAT I WAS
JUST TALKING ABOUT.
HERE IS GEORGE THOMPSON AND HIS LETTER THAT HE WROTE WHEN HE
DID HIS SURVEY OF FLORIDA FOR THE FREEDMAN'S BUREAU IN 1866.
HERE IS WALTER SAXON AND HIS LITTLE MANOR THAT IS STILL IN
OPERATION TODAY AND IT HOSTED WEDDINGS.
THIS IS THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE FROM LOUISIANA WHERE THEY
TALKED ABOUT A LIVELY BRAWL THAT TOOK PLACE WITH NOSES AND
HEADS BEING DAMAGED.
AND I DON'T THINK IT ENDED PEACEFULLY.
THERE'S NO REPORT OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED AFTER THIS.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN THIS IS CYRUS CHARLES.
THIS IS THE LAND THAT HE ACTUALLY HAD A SUBDIVISION FOR,
WHICH IS LOCATED WHERE THE STRAZ IS.
BLACK MAN, HOMESTEADED THAT LAND AS A PLAT OF LAND THAT HE

OWNED.
WE'LL GET INTO THIS NEXT WEEK.
THIS IS WHEN THEY START THE BLACK MILITIA, AND WE'LL GO
THROUGH THAT.
10:48:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
ALWAYS LOVE YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
JOHNNY JOHNSON FOLLOWED BY BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:48:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I COME DOWN HERE THIS MORNING AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
FOR TOO LONG, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN GROUND ZERO FOR
PREDATORY PRACTICES AND NEGLECT.
I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA, APPROXIMATELY TWO BLOCKS.
I COME DOWN HERE TO FIND OUT WHEN WE WAS GOING TO STAND UP
AND USE CODE ENFORCEMENT AS YOU GUYS DID TO COME THROUGH OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THE REGENTRIFICATION AND REBUILD.
ON MY STREET ALONE, I HAVE SIX NEW HOUSES AND THE PEOPLE
LIVING IN A COUPLE OF OTHER HOUSES GOT BOUGHT OUT AND PUSHED
AWAY.
I WANT TO KNOW, OUR KIDS ARE INNOCENT, WHEN DO WE STAND UP
FOR?
LOCATED AT 4330 NORTH 40th STREET.
THIS PARTICULAR STORE IS CALLED SILVER DOLLAR.
ME AND OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE BEEN DOWN TO THE STORE,
THE STORE GUY, ADMITS THAT THEY HAVE SEX TOYS IN THE STORE.

YOU HAVE TO BE 18 TO GO, NEBRASKA AND FLETCHER, THE SEX TOYS
ARE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CANDY.
THEY ALSO, NINE-YEAR-OLD BEING SHOT UP THERE, ILLEGAL DRUG
ACTIVITY.
I'VE SEEN THE COPS UP THERE IN THE LAST MONTH TWICE DOING
SOME OPERATIONS TO SHUT DOWN THE ILLEGAL STUFF GOING ON.
I JUST WANT CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT TO
ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOB.
COME IN AND PROTECT OUR KIDS.
THEY ARE INNOCENT.
WE SEE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MORAL COMPASS TO GUIDE BEHIND THE
STORE.
ADMITTED THEY HAVE SEX TOYS, AND HIS REASONING WAS YOU GUYS
GOT BUSINESS LICENSE, AND THEY ARE BUYING FROM A VENDOR.
SINCE THE VENDOR IS SELLING THEM THIS STUFF, THEY HAVE THE
RIGHT TO SELL IT IN THEY STORE.
BECAUSE IF THE VENDOR DON'T HAVE IT, THEN THEY WON'T HAVE
IT.
EVERYTHING THE VENDOR SELL THEM, CRACK COCAINE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE, HE'S TELLING ME THAT HE CAN SELL IT IN HIS
STORE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND WHATEVER
THE VENDOR SELL THEM --
AS A SOCIETY, WE HAVE LOST OUR MORAL COMPASS.
HUMANS ARE AWFUL TO EACH OTHER.
I WOULD RATHER RUN WITH LIONS AND BEARS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY

WILL ATTACK WHEN HUNGRY OR FEEL IN FEAR.
WE HAVE PEOPLE GET UP EVERY MORNING AND PREY ON ANOTHER
HUMAN BEING DOWN-FALL.
THAT IS SICKENING.
AND CAPITALISM IS VERY SICKENING.
WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN GROUND ZERO FOR PREDATORY PRACTICES
AND NEGLECT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO STAND UP AND DO SOMETHING.
WE ALL HAVE A TIME TO DO SOMETHING GREAT.
DO SOME GREAT AND CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR KIDS AND THEIR
FUTURE.
YOU ALL WENT FROM RED LINE GENTRIFICATION.
DON'T KILL US MENTALLY.
WE ARE ALREADY MENTALLY STRESSED OUT.
WE ARE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE ISSUES
THAT ARE FACING EAST TAMPA.
10:51:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY FOLLOWED BY GREEN.
10:51:36AM >> WITH ALL RESPECT, MR. GREEN WAS SUPPOSED TO GO FIRST.
10:51:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
MR. GREEN, WE'LL DO THAT.
AND THEN FOLLOWED BY YOU, MS. BISHOP.
GOOD MORNING, MR. GREEN.
10:51:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.

JOHN GREEN.
TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY SEX TOYS CAN BE HARMFUL TO
CHILDREN, NOT BECAUSE OF ADULT CHOICES, BUT BECAUSE OF
CHILDREN SAFETY, DEVELOPMENT, AND WELL-BEING.
CHILDREN ARE STILL FORMING THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR
BODY'S RELATIONSHIPS AND BOUNDARIES.
EXPOSURE TO ADULT SEXUAL OBJECTS CAN CONFUSE THE PROCESS.
WHEN CHILDREN ENCOUNTER ITEMS THAT ARE MEANT STRICTLY FOR
ADULT SEXUAL USE, IT CAN BLUR THE LINES BETWEEN
AGE-APPROPRIATE CURIOSITY AND ADULT BEHAVIOR, WHICH THEY ARE
NOT EMOTIONALLY OR MENTALLY PREPARED TO UNDERSTAND.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS NORMALIZATION.
WHEN ADULT SEXUAL ITEMS ARE VISIBLE OR EASILY ACCESSIBLE,
CHILDREN MAY COME TO SEE THEM AS ORDINARY TOYS.
THIS CAN REDUCE THEIR ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IS
APPROPRIATE AND INAPPROPRIATE, MAKING IT HARDER FOR THEM TO
SET BOUNDARIES OR SPEAK UP IF SOMETHING FEELS WRONG.
PROTECTING THESE BOUNDARIES IS ESSENTIAL TO PREVENTING
EXPLOITATION AND ABUSE.
FINALLY, CHILDREN DESERVE ENVIRONMENTS THAT SUPPORT HEALTHY,
AGE-APPROPRIATE GROWTH.
JUST AS WE RESTRICT ACCESS TO ALCOHOL OR MEDICATIONS, WE
SHOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT ADULT SEXUAL PRODUCTS ARE KEPT OUT
OF THE REACH AND OUT OF SIGHT.
IN CONCLUSION, THIS IS NOT ABOUT JUDGING ADULTS, BUT ABOUT

PRIORITIZING CHILDREN, KEEPING ADULT ITEMS AWAY FROM
CHILDREN HELP PROTECT THEIR SAFETY, SUPPORT HEALTHY
DEVELOPMENT, AND ASSURE THEY CAN GROW UP WITH CLEAR,
APPROPRIATE BOUNDARIES.
THE QUESTION THAT I WANT TO POSE TO THIS COUNCIL AND TO THE
CITY, WHEN YOU AT HOME, WOULD YOU LEAVE A DILDO OR ANY TYPE
OF SEX TOYS IN FRONT OF YOUR CHILDREN?
THIS IS THE LEVEL OF RESPECT -- DISRESPECT THAT THIS
COMMUNITY WITH THESE CONVENIENCE STORES IS GIVING TO THE
BLACK COMMUNITY.
AND NOT ONLY THERE, I WENT TO SEFFNER AND I WENT TO A
CONVENIENCE STORE THERE AND IT'S THE SAME.
NOW, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, WHEN WE WENT TO THE STORE, WHEN WE
WENT TO THE STORE, THEY TOLD ME, I CALLED THE NONEMERGENCY
NUMBER.
THEY SENT ME TO THE POLICE OFFICE.
WENT TO THE POLICE OFFICE.
THEY SENT ME TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
TALKED TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY SENT ME TO ZONING.
THEN ZONING SENT ME BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I FILED A COMPLAINT.
NOW I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CITY IS REALLY ABOUT, AND DO YOU
REALLY CARE ABOUT ALL OF OUR CHILDREN?
THANK YOU.
10:54:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. GREEN.

BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY FOLLOWED BY ELVIS PIGGOTT.
I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THE VALIDATION, BUT THINK
ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, IF YOU ARE BOOING OR HISSING SPEAKERS,
I'VE GOT TO BE CONSISTENT IN ENFORCING THE RULES.
IT'S GOOD THAT YOU APPLAUD THAT, BUT IF YOU -- I'VE GOT TO
BE CONSISTENT.
YOU DON'T WANT ME INTERPRETING LIKE WHO I WANT TO ALLOW TO
REACT AND WHO I DON'T WANT TO REACT.
IT'S GOT TO BE CONSISTENT.
WE'VE GOT TO BE THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY.
OTHERWISE, YOU DON'T WANT ME PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO I WANT
TO SAY YES AND NO TO.
10:55:30AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
THERE IS AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOK ABOUT THE SEX TOYS AND THE
AGE APPROPRIATE.
FLORIDA IS THE THIRD LARGEST IN THE NATION FOR HUMAN SEX
TRAFFICKING.
THIRD IN THE NATION.
WE HAVE A CONVENIENCE STORE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SILVER DOLLAR.
I GAVE YOU ALL PICTURES SHOWING YOU THAT HERE AT THE
CHECKOUT COUNTER, WHEN A CHILD COME TO THE COUNTER TO CHECK
OUT FOR THEIR CANDY AND COOKIES, THEY ARE MET WITH SEX TOYS,

RIGHT THERE.
THERE IT IS.
EVIDENCE.
THESE SILVER DOLLAR FOLKS SAY THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH
YOUR BLESSING, AND WE KNOW ACCORDING TO THE STATUTE THAT
THAT IS NOT SO, SO WE'RE ASKING, I WANT TO THANK THE
COUNCILWOMAN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, SHE ASKED THAT THE
STAFF LOOK INTO OUR ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY.
BUT RIGHT HERE AT 847.013 IT SAYS PROTECTION OF MINORS,
PROHIBITED CERTAIN ACTS.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SEX TOYS AND DIFFERENT THINGS
SHOULD NOT BE FOR 17 -- KIDS 17 YEARS AND YOUNGER.
KNOWING THE SAME MEANING SET FORTH IS ANY PERSON UNDER THE
AGE OF 18, A VIOLATION OF THIS PROVISION OF THIS SECTION
CONSTITUTES A FELONY OF THIRD DEGREE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS MORNING IS THAT THE COUNCIL MAKE
AN ORDINANCE WHERE THE POLICE CAN DO THEIR JOB, BECAUSE IF
THEY WALK IN THAT CONVENIENCE STORE AND THEY SEE WHAT WE
HAVE WITNESSED, THE SEX TOYS, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO
HAVE THEM REMOVED OR THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEM WITH
A VIOLATION, WHICH WE SEE IS A THIRD DEGREE VIOLATION.
THIS IS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
WHEN I LISTEN TO THE JEWISH HOLOCAUST, I THOUGHT THEY WAS
TALKING ABOUT AFRICA.

WHAT HAPPENED TO US AS AFRICANS AND BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY.
WHEN I OPENED MY EYES, NO, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT NEVER HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT SLAVERY DID.
SO WE WANT THE SAME RESPECT THAT OTHERS ARE ASKING.
WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE INNOCENCE OF OUR CHILDREN.
NO ONE CAN DICTATE WHO IS IN THAT STORE, WHAT PERVERTS ARE
IN THERE.
WHEN THESE KIDS ARE THERE AND THEY ARE THINKING THIS IS
NORMAL BECAUSE YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT COLORS, NEON, ORANGE,
RED, GREEN, OUR KIDS THINK THIS IS A NORMAL THING.
YOU HAVE A CRA OUT THERE.
PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORE AND THEIR -- ONE OF THE
THINGS THE CRA CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE
ENTREPRENEURS AND START -- LET BLACKS HAVE SOME STORES OUT
THERE.
THEY HAVE THE MONEY THAT THEY CAN SET UP ENTREPRENEURS SO
THEY WON'T MISS OUT.
IT WON'T BE A FOOD DESERT.
HERE WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, THAT YOU
DO PUT IN THIS ORDINANCE.
DO YOUR JOB.
THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION ALREADY SET THE GUIDELINES.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT HERE IN THE
CITY, YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
THANK YOU.

10:58:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ELVIS PIGGOTT FOLLOWED BY PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS.
10:58:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I COME TWO REASONS.
THE FIRST REASON I COME TO JUST BE CLEAR.
10:58:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:58:48AM >> MY NAME IS ELVIS PIGGOTT.
I COME TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
THE COMMENDATIONS IS WONDERFUL.
JUST DISAPPOINTING AT TIMES.
WE OFTEN HAVE GOOD ENERGY AND EXUDE HOW SERIOUS WE ARE WHEN
IT COMES DOWN TO EVERY RACE BUT BLACK.
IT'S IRONIC THAT I'VE WATCHED AT HOME COUNTLESS TIMES TO
COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA HOW PASSIONATE HE IS WHEN IT COMES
DOWN TO DEALING WITH DISABLED, DISABILITIES.
I'VE WATCHED WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
JEWS.
I'VE WATCHED HOW SERIOUS WE ARE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LGBTQ.
WE TAKE ACTION.
WE GET THINGS DONE.
WE PASS BILLS, ORDINANCE, AND DELEGATE MONEY AND FIGHT WITH
THE ADMINISTRATION TO GET THINGS DONE.
BUT SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHEN IT COME TO AFRICAN AMERICANS.
THEY ARE ALMOST TREATED LIKE LOW CLASS.
TREATED AS IF THEY ARE NOT IMPORTANT.

IT'S AMAZING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE OFTEN TALK BECAUSE I'VE DEALT WITH A
LOT OF POLITICIANS CONCERNING, THEY DON'T VOTE.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND.
I WANT TO SAY THAT THE MOVE THAT TOOK PLACE HERE IN CITY
COUNCIL WHERE WE DECIDE TO USE OUR LEVERAGE AND EGO AND TO
CAUSE A MAN TO BE KICKED OUT, I DON'T BELIEVE IN HOMOPHOBIC
STUFF.
IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
BY ALL MEANS, WE SHOULD MOST DEFINITELY CONDUCT OURSELVES IN
A GOOD MANNER, BUT LET'S MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT WE DO NOT GET
TO DICTATE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FREE SPEECH, PREDICATED ON HOW
WE FEEL.
THAT ITEM IS GOING TO COME UP.
I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS REMEMBER AT THE END OF THE DAY,
AFRICAN AMERICANS IS NOT SLEEP.
WE ARE WIDE AWAKE.
WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE WON'T KEEP SILENT.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO FIGHT.
AND IT IS OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO GET OUT AND VOTE IN 2027 IF WE NEVER VOTED
BEFORE, YOU'LL SEE A GREAT TURNOUT THIS TIME, CHAIR.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND SHOW SOMETHING REAL QUICKLY, IF
YOU'LL ALLOW ME, TO TALK ABOUT SILVER DOLLAR.

SINCE THEY KEEP MENTIONING IT, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY
HORRIFYING.
I TALK WITH ELEVEN OF THE OWNERS.
WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THIS.
THOSE THINGS REAL QUICKLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT -- SO MANY
THINGS.
BUT I'LL SAY THEY HAVE THE SIGNS DISPLAY 21 AND OLDER.
THEY ALSO MAKE SURE THAT NO SOLICITING, NO LOITERING
OUTSIDE.
THEY ALSO HAVE NO SEX TOYS THAT IS VISIBLE BY CANDY.
THOSE ARE VERY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.
THEY ARE IN BOXES THAT HAS NO DILDOS AND STUFF.
WE JUST GOT A 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL KILLED IN SULPHUR SPRINGS
WHILE WE'RE WRITING ABOUT SEX TOYS.
11:01:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR.
GOOD MORNING, PASTOR.
TAKE YOUR TIME.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:02:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
I THANK GOD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN THE
PEOPLE TO OPEN UP THEIR HEARTS TO YOU AND TELL YOU THE
TRUTH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SAD THE WAY YOU ALL TREAT PEOPLE OF COLOR,
AND DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE WHITE FOLK.
MISTREAT US AND THINK WE'RE GOING TO SIT BACK AND TAKE IT.
PEOPLE ARE NOW OPENING UP AND LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR
FEELINGS ARE, AND THAT'S GOOD.
I USED TO BRING IN FLYERS AND GIVE THEM TO THE LAWYER HERE
AND HE GIVE THEM BACK TO ME.
I TELL HIM, HEY, MAKE SURE THE MAYOR GETS ONE OF THE FLYERS.
NOW I CAN'T PASS OUT NO FLYER TO YOU NO MORE.
AIN'T NOTHING IN THE BIBLE SCRIPTURE.
AIN'T NOTHING SAID, NO SEX TOYS.
NOTHING BUT VIOLENCE SCRIPTURE.
IF YOU WANT TO HEAR BIBLE SCRIPTURE, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO
TALK ABOUT?
TALK ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING FOR
US.
WE STILL NEED SOME HELP.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOOD TO COME TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OR WHAT.
DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING FOR US.
WE ALL MISTREATED.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD SOME OF THESE PEOPLE COME OUT
AND TALK LIKE ME.
THAT IS A BLESSING.
WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHO GOD IS.

THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT ME TALKING.
GOT A LIST OUT THERE.
I SIGNED THE LIST AND THEN A CARD THAT TELL ME, HEY, I
DIDN'T SIGN THE CARD.
I GO OUT THERE AND AIN'T NO CARDS OUT THERE.
SO WHAT CAN I DO?
WE CAN'T DO NOTHING.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I AIN'T SEEN NOTHING
OUT THERE TODAY, NOT YESTERDAY, TODAY.
BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU NEED TO TAKE BACK PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT
THE PUBLIC TO TALK TO YOU.
THAT WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ON THE PAPER I GOT.
I AIN'T GOT TIME TO READ THIS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
DON'T GIVE ME THAT MUCH TIME.
I GET UP HERE AND STAY UP THREE MINUTES AND YOU ALL DONE
RUNG THE BELL IN 15 SECONDS.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, TREAT US LIKE PEOPLE.
THAT'S ALL WE ASK.
TREAT US LIKE PEOPLE.

I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN.
11:05:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PASTOR, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.
I APPRECIATE WHEN YOU SING TO US, THOUGH.
NEXT TIME, GIVE US A SONG.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:05:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
CONGRATULATIONS TO MS. ASHLEY MORROW FOR BEING THE CHAIR OF
THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH MANY OF THE MEMBERS THAT WERE
CHOSEN BY COUNCIL.
THERE WERE A FEW FOLKS WHO I CONSIDERED TO BE
OBSTRUCTIONISTS WHO ARE ON THE COMMITTEE.
DIDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT YOU SET OUT, WHICH I
THOUGHT WAS RUDE AND MAYBE DISRESPECTFUL.
BUT I DO FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE ALTERNATES -- AND THIS WAS
NOT GIVEN CONSIDERATION -- THE ALTERNATES SHOULD BE GIVEN AN
OPPORTUNITY AT EACH MEETING TO AT LEAST GIVE THREE MINUTES'
WORTH OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
ABILITY TO DO ANY FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY SEE AND HEAR DURING
THE MEETINGS.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO HIT THE DOCKS.
EVEN IF IT TAKES SIX YEARS TO GET THE MONEY FOR THE DOCKS,
THAT'S WHAT INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE FOR.
INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY FOR PEOPLE WHO DAMAGE

THINGS.
IF I HIT THIS BUILDING WITH MY CAR, YOU CAN BELIEVE YOUR
BEHIND THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE CALLING MY INSURANCE COMPANY.
I STARTED LOOKING AT THIS THIS MORNING.
IF YOU LOOK UP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, YOU GET THIS PAGE.
BUT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SOMEBODY WHO USED TO BE STAFF ASKED
ME FOR AN UPDATED VERSION OF THIS PAGE, WHICH IS ALSO CALLED
THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PAGE.
THIS IS OUR LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET.
NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, I STARTED LOOKING WHILE I WAS
BACK HERE.
THIS WAS NOT IN MY SPEECH THIS MORNING, BUT A LOT OF THE
STUFF THAT'S ON HERE IS NOT ON THIS WEBSITE.
LIKE I SAID, SOMEBODY WHO IS STAFF REACHED OUT TO ME THIS
MORNING, AND THEIR PREVIOUS COPY WAS FROM 2023.
THIS THING IS HIDDEN.
WHERE IS IT?
WHY IS IT NOT PUBLISHED?
WHY CAN WE NOT SEE EVERY PENNY BEING SPENT THROUGHOUT THIS
PROCESS?
WHY IS IT NOT HERE?
THEY DON'T MATCH.
THEY SHOULD MATCH.
JUST SAYING.

I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF IT.
LET'S SEE, I GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES.
JACKSON HOUSE STATION 24, UNION STATION, WHAT THEY HAVE IN
COMMON, THEY ARE CALLED SLOW ROLL.
SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT IT DONE, SO THEY HAVE BEEN DRAGGING
THEIR BUTT ON THE CARPET INSTEAD OF GETTING THE WORK DONE.
BY GOD, BIG BLUE WENT ON THE MARKET WHILE YOU ALL WERE ON
BREAK!
GIVE ME A BREAK, MAN!
SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY GOT A BUYER FOR IT.
I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE WHO IT IS.
THERE WOULDN'T BE AN RFP PUT OUT FOR IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE HAPPENS SLOW IN THIS CITY THAT SUCKS, THE
CITY PAYS FOR ALL THESE REPORTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT,
AND THEN THEY IGNORE THEM.
THE MOBILITY STUDY, IGNORED FOR TWO YEARS.
TWO FULL YEARS.
AND THEN WE HAD TO PAY ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO
RENEW IT.
COASTAL AREA ACTION PLAN, IT GOT FIVE MINUTES IN FRONT OF
THIS COUNCIL AND EXACTLY ZERO HAS BEEN DONE FOR SOUTH OF
GANDY OR PALMETTO BEACH, WHICH WE'RE BOTH PART OF THAT.
THE DAVIS ISLAND PLAN, NOBODY KNEW IT EXISTED UNTIL SOME
LADY ACCOSTED OUR CHAIR.
SO WE NEED TO START TAKING A LOOK AND ACTUALLY READING THE

REPORTS.
11:08:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
11:08:28AM >> THANK YOU.
11:08:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
SO WE ARE NOW MOVING ON -- ANY REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC FOR
RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
HEARING NONE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG REQUESTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.
11:09:00AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.
LET ME GET MY BEARINGS.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES OR WHOEVER THAT PURCHASED
PROPERTIES IN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY DO NOT KEEP THEM UP.
IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN.
YOU ARE SITTING THERE AND YOU ARE DRIVING PAST THESE EYESORE
OF A PLACE, AND THERE'S JUST NO INVESTMENT TO IT ALL.
ESPECIALLY, YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY IN
EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA, YOU HAVE COMMUNITY THAT
REALLY WANTS TO START TO BEAUTIFY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE
SOME POSITIVE CHANGE, AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
HOMES THAT THEY JUST DON'T CARE TO KEEP THEM UP.
I GUESS IT'S MORE LIKE A PSA.

IF YOU HAVE A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YOU ARE JUST NOT
KEEPING IT UP, EITHER GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY THAT REALLY CARES
OR DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE THIS COST US MONEY TO HAVE TO GO
AND CLEAN UP AFTER SOMEONE WHO JUST IS REFUSING TO.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE SENIORS OR ELDERLY OR
DISABLED WHO NEED ASSISTANCE.
THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CASE.
BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A HOME OR YOU
HAVE A PROPERTY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU ARE JUST CHOOSING
NOT TO UPKEEP IT AND YOU HAVE THE MEANS TO DO SO, PLEASE
STOP DOING THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ANYMORE.
OUR COMMUNITIES ARE REALLY TRYING TO BEAUTIFY AND WANT TO
SEE POSITIVE THINGS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
STOP DOING THAT.
MORE LIKE A PSA.
BECAUSE I'M SICK OF SEEING IT.
I DRIVE PAST A HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY, IT'S BEEN
YEARS, AND THIS PERSON DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN TAMPA AND THE
HOME IS SITTING THERE DETERIORATING.
WHEN THERE WAS A HURRICANE, THE HOME FLOODED.
THERE WAS A FAMILY LIVING IN THERE.
THE PERSON DIDN'T COME BACK UNTIL MONTHS.
IT'S MORE LIKE A PSA.
IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, STOP PURCHASING

THE HOME.
IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS OR STOREFRONT YOU DON'T CARE, STOP
PURCHASING HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITIES SO WE CAN REALLY START
TO SEE BEAUTIFICATION.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
11:11:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU REACH OUT TO BOBBY CREIGHTON
WITH VACANT TO VIBRANT.
I'M GOING TO THE VACANT TO VIBRANT CONFERENCE IN PITTSBURGH
IN SEPTEMBER.
IF YOU HAVE INTEREST IN THAT, DARLENE CAN TALK TO KELLY,
BECAUSE I'M PLANNING TO GO FOR THIS VERY REASON TO FIND OUT
WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENERGIZE AND GET SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE
JUST SITTING THERE.
WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT ARE INCENTIVES WE CAN USE.
I'M A THOUSAND PERCENT WITH YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:11:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU'LL FIND A LOT OF THE
PROPERTIES ARE NOT HOME-OWNER OCCUPIED.
THEY ARE INVESTORS THAT COME IN REALLY TO EXPLOIT THE
COMMUNITY AND THEY SIT ON THESE THINGS AND DON'T TAKE CARE
OF THEM.
PEOPLE LIVING THERE AND TRYING TO RAISE FAMILIES SUFFER WITH
THE CONSEQUENCES.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH

8, PLEASE?
11:12:15AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, MOVE ITEMS 4 THROUGH 8.
11:12:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO, 9-15.
-- EXCUSE ME.
9-13.
11:12:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEMS 9-13.
11:12:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
SEPARATE VOTE ON ITEMS 14 AND 15.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?
11:12:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
I JUST WANT TO VOTE NO.
11:12:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 14?
11:12:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 14 AND 15.
11:12:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT OKAY?
DO YOU WANT SEPARATE VOTES?

MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 14 AND 15 FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
11:13:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
11:13:06AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:13:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 16 AND 17.
11:13:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE 16 AND 17 UNDER THE FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
11:13:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, 19 THROUGH 28.
11:13:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER 20, MY FIRM WORKS WITH A COMPANY THAT
MAY BE RELATED TO THIS, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T WORK ON THIS ISSUE
AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
JUST UNDER ADVICE OF COUNSEL, I'LL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THAT
AND TURN IN MY FORM LATER.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 19 AND THEN 21 THROUGH 28.
11:13:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON MOVING 19
THROUGH 21 AND 21 THROUGH 28.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS RECUSING HIMSELF FROM ITEM 20.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEM 20, PLEASE?
11:14:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEM 20.
11:14:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:14:20AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
11:14:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 29.
11:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEAVY LIFT.
SURE YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MOVES ITEM 29 IN THE MOBILITY AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE CATEGORY.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SECONDS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:14:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OPEN 10:30.
11:14:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
ITEM NUMBER 30.
GOOD MORNING.
11:15:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.
TODAY, I AM PRIVILEGED TO PRESENT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO GRANT LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
STATUS AT 2708 NORTH 18th STREET OF WHICH WE HAVE TITLED
THE NIETO-FUENTE BUCKEYE.
IF I COULD PLEASE HAVE MY PowerPoint.
11:15:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE NEED IT ON THE PUBLIC MONITORS, PLEASE.
THERE WE GO.
11:15:27AM >> THIS APPLICATION WAS INITIATED BY OWNER LIANA FUENTE OF
BLACK ORCHID, LLC AND AGENT ROGER GRUNKE.
APPLICATIONS FOR LOCAL LANDMARKS ARE REVIEWED BY THE HPC FOR
RECOMMENDATION AND MUST MEET THE CRITERIA OF SECTION 27-257.
LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS ARE AN IMPORTANT
PRESERVATION TOOL THAT PROTECTS AND SAFEGUARDS HISTORIC
RESOURCES FROM DEMOLITION AND NONCOMPATIBLE ALTERATIONS.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT PROMOTES AND REPRESENTS TAMPA'S
TANGIBLE HISTORY.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS OUTSIDE THE
YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING
STRUCTURE TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER LANDMARK DISTRICT.
THAT DOES NOT OFFER PROTECTIONS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN ORDINANCE WITH THE
PROTECTION.
2708 NORTH 18th STREET IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER
OF 17th AVENUE AND 18th STREET.
AS SHOWN ON THE SANBORN MAP, THE STRUCTURE REMAINS ON-SITE
WITH MUCH OF THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT HAVE
REMAINED FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
WITH OUR RESEARCH, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THIS STRUCTURE
WAS BUILT ABOUT 1923 AS IT APPEARS IN THE 1924 CITY
DIRECTORY AND THE 1925 SANBORN MAP.
HERE IS A RECENT PICTURE OF THE STRUCTURE.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE TO THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU SEE THE SMALL CASITAS WHERE THE CIGAR WORKERS ONCE
WORKED.
YOU SEE THE CLOCK TOWER OF THE CIGAR FACTORY BEHIND IT WHICH
IS NOW THE NEWMAN CIGAR FACTORY.
THIS STRUCTURE'S FORM IS OF THE FRAMED VERNACULAR
ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITH WOOD FRAME ON PIER FOUNDATION WITH
HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.
WINDOWS WOULD HAVE BEEN WOOD BUT SOME HAVE BEEN REPLACED

WITH ALUMINUM.
AS I MENTIONED, WE DUBBED THIS STRUCTURE THE NIETO-FUENTE
BUCKEYE.
A BUCKEYE WAS A SMALL, OFTEN FAMILY-OWNED CIGAR FACTORY,
ALSO KNOWN AS CHICALAS.
YBOR CITY, AS WELL AS WEST TAMPA HAD NEIGHBORHOODS KNOWN AS
BARRIOS, AND EACH BARRIO WAS TYPICALLY CENTERED AROUND A
LARGE CIGAR FACTORY, CASITAS, BAKERIES, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES,
AND SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE HOMES WERE THESE BUCKEYES.
AND THEY HELPED SUPPORT AND SUPPLEMENT FAMILIES LIKE THE
NIETOS AND LATER FUENTES TO SERVE AS START-UPS TO ATTEMPT TO
MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES.
BUCKEYES ALSO PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE DURING THE
DEPRESSION, OFFERING CHEAPER CIGARS THAN THE FACTORY-ROLLED
CIGARS.
THEY WERE OFTEN FAMILY RUN WITH THE KIDS ROLLING CIGARS AS
ALLOWANCE OR AFTER-SCHOOL TASK.
THIS WAS REPORTED BY ARTURO FUENTE SON CARLOS.
HE HAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CIGARS HE HAD TO ROLL AFTER
SCHOOL EACH DAY.
THE TWO MAIN FAMILIES THAT OPERATED SMALL-SCALE CIGAR
FACTORIES HERE WERE THE NIETOS AND THE FUENTES.
BROTHERS AND ONE SISTER CONSTRUCTED THIS BUILDING FOR THEIR
HOME AND FAMILY RUN CIGAR BUSINESS.
VICENTE ESTABLISHED CIGAR SALES ALSO IN SAN FRANCISCO AND

SOLD YBOR CIGARS HERE AND THERE FOR 15 TO 20 YEARS.
THE THREE BROTHERS DIED BETWEEN 1932 AND 1944 WITH THE NIETO
BROTHER CIGARS FACTORY LAST IN THE CITY DIRECTORIES IN 1944.
SISTER PASTORA CONTINUED TO LIVE HERE UNTIL HER DEATH IN
1947.
SHE LEFT HER ESTATE TO HER FAMILY BACK IN SPAIN.
THEY SOLD OFF THE PROPERTY AND THERE WERE OTHER OWNERS UNTIL
THE STRUCTURE'S MOST WELL-KNOWN OCCUPANT BOUGHT THE BUILDING
IN 1960.
THAT'S ARTURO FUENTE.
ARTURO FUENTE ARRIVED FROM CUBA IN 1912 AND ORIGINALLY
OPENED A FACTORY IN WEST TAMPA WHICH WAS DESTROYED BY A FIRE
IN 1924.
OVER 22 YEARS, HE TRIED TO REBUILD HIS BRAND.
HE WORKED AS A CIGAR ROLLER IN OTHER FACTORIES AND ROLLED AT
HIS HOUSE WITH HIS FAMILY AFTER THOSE SHIFTS.
WHEN THE INTERSTATE CAME THROUGH, HIS HOME WAS SLATED FOR
DEMOLITION.
AND HE PURCHASED THIS STRUCTURE ON 18th AVENUE.
THREE FUENTE GENERATIONS LIVED AND WORKED HERE UNTIL THE
ARTURO FUENTE BRAND WAS REESTABLISHED AND THEY COULD BUILD
ANOTHER LARGE CIGAR FACTORY IN YBOR CITY.
UPON THE CUBAN EMBARGO ON TOBACCO LEAFS, FUENTE WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST COMPANIES TO EXPERIMENT WITH OTHER LEAFS FROM
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES UNTIL HE FOUND A BLEND THAT MATCHED THE

TASTE THAT SO MANY CIGAR SMOKERS PREFERRED IN THE CUBAN
CIGARS.
FUENTE'S CIGARS WAS ONLY ONE OF THE COMPANIES TO SURVIVE THE
EMBARGO AND THIS BUILDING IS WHERE HE REBUILT HIMSELF ONCE
AGAIN AND TO KEEP TAMPA AS A CITY KNOWN FOR ITS FINE CIGARS.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS STRUCTURE IS AS ONE OF THE LAST KNOWN
BUCKEYES TO OPERATE AND ALSO BECAUSE OF ITS ASSOCIATIONS
WITH ONE OF THE LARGEST CIGAR MANUFACTURERS IN THE WORLD
STILL TODAY.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE OFTEN HAVE TO ADDRESS CHANGES THAT
HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER A STRUCTURE'S HISTORY.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS STRUCTURE HAS GONE THROUGH
SEVERAL CHANGES OVER 100 YEARS.
BEING THAT PART OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS STRUCTURE IS ITS
ASSOCIATION WITH FUENTE, WE CONSIDER THE CHANGES HE MADE TO
THE BUILDING IN THE '60s AND '70s AS SIGNIFICANT AS THE
CENTURY OLD PORTIONS OF THE STRUCTURE.
HE ALSO ADDED A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION WHICH WAS A SMALLER
SECTION WHEN THE NIETOS LIVED UPSTAIRS.
WE MENTION THIS TO CLARIFY WE PROTECT TO PROPOSE THE
ADDITIONS MADE BY THE FUENTES AND WOULD NOT RECOMMEND
REMOVING THE FUENTES TO TURN IT BACK TO THE 1925
CONFIGURATION.
IN PRESENTING THE CASE TO THE HPC, APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED
ON TIME AND NOTICED CORRECTLY.

SEPTEMBER 16, HPC UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO RECOMMEND TO CITY
COUNCIL TO GRANT LANDMARK STATUS TO THE STRUCTURE, OF WHICH
THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONCURRED IN A FINDING OF CONSISTENT
WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SPECIFIC TO OUR CRITERIA, WE FOUND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT
WITH 27-256 WITH THE CRITERIA SECTIONS ALIGNING WITH THE
CRITERIA OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, AND
THAT CRITERIA A, BEING ASSOCIATED WITH SIGNIFICANT EVENTS
AND PATTERNS OF OUR HISTORY, OUR FINDING THAT IT IS
ASSOCIATED WITH YBOR CITY CIGAR INDUSTRY, WHICH IS A
SIGNIFICANT PERIOD IN TAMPA'S HISTORY, CRITERION B BEING
ASSOCIATED WITH A SIGNIFICANT PERSON, OUR FINDING BEING WITH
ARTURO FUENTE, WHO IS A DEFINING AND PROMINENT LEADER IN THE
CIGAR INDUSTRIES AND WHOSE BRAND CONTINUES TO BRING
WORLD-RENOWN RECOGNITION TO TAMPA'S CIGAR INDUSTRY.
C, EMBODIES A SIGNIFICANT CHARACTERISTIC OF BUILDING TYPE.
IN THIS CASE, A BUCKEYE CIGAR FACTORY.
OF WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SINGULAR OF THIS TYPE OF
BUILDING REPRESENTED IN OUR LANDMARK LIST.
IN MY PRESENTATION AND PRESENT OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION,
WHICH IS TO HOPEFULLY APPROVE THIS AS A LOCAL LANDMARK, I
WANT TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO LIANA FUENTE AND HER AGENT
ROGER GRUNKE FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD VOLUNTARILY TO US.
IF APPROVED, THEY WILL BE PRESENTING PLANS TO THE ARC FOR
FULL REHABILITATION OF THE STRUCTURE AND ADAPTIVE REUSE.

WE WANT TO THANK THEM FOR SHARING THE STRUCTURE WITH US AND
ELECTIVELY GOING THROUGH AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS TO
ENSURE THAT THE MOST PRESERVATION SENSITIVE MANNER IS TAKEN
UPON THE REHABILITATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ADDING THIS
PIECE OF TAMPA'S HISTORY TO OUR LOCAL LANDMARK LIST.
11:22:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOES THE APPLICANT COME UP NOW?
QUICK STORY, FIRST, I'M SO GLAD THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE, IF
WE APPROVE THIS, DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
BECAUSE WE KNOW TAMPA'S HISTORY WITH THE CIGAR INDUSTRY.
I DON'T THINK TAMPA WOULD BE TAMPA, WITH YBOR -- I COULD GO
ON AND ON WITH THE CIGAR -- WITHOUT THE CIGAR INDUSTRY.
I TOLD THE STORY BEFORE, SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE HEARD IT.
A FRIEND OF MINE WAS IN SWITZERLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF
NOWHERE, IN A VILLAGE OF, I DON'T KNOW, A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
HE WENT TO A CIGAR SHOP.
STARTS TALKING TO THE OWNER.
THE OWNER GOES, WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
SPEAKING ENGLISH.
THE GUY IS GERMAN.
OH, TAMPA, FLORIDA, NEVER HEARD OF IT.
ARTURO FUENTE.
ARTURO FUENTE.
LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN THE SWISS ALPS, PEOPLE
BRING UP NOT JUST TAMPA, TOM BRADY, THEY BROUGHT UP

SPECIFICALLY ARTURO FUENTE.
YOU SAID THERE IS NO BUCKEYE STYLE DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC
LANDMARK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, CORRECT?
11:24:05AM >> YES, AS A TYPE.
11:24:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST.
SO WHEN I HAD THE LONGSHOREMEN THIS MORNING, WE TALKED ABOUT
URBAN RENEWAL AND THE EFFECTS OF SO MUCH BEING DEMOLISHED.
URBAN RENEWAL DID A LOT OF DAMAGE TO YBOR CITY, AND WE LOST
A LOT OF CIGAR FACTORIES.
THE CIGAR INDUSTRY CHANGED.
AS THE CIGAR INDUSTRY HAS COME BACK IN THE LAST 30 YEARS,
SINCE THE '90s, IT'S KIND OF EXPLODED AGAIN, THE FACT THAT
THIS BUILDING STILL EXISTS AND WAS NOT DEMOLISHED, BECAUSE
IT'S A LOT OF WOOD THERE.
WOOD IN TROPICAL CLIMATES, IF WE DEMOLISH BRICK CIGAR
FACTORIES, IMAGINE THIS.
NUMBER ONE, IT'S RARE AND IT'S SPECIAL THAT AT A CENTURY
OLD, I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN 1925.
11:24:47AM >> '23.
11:24:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS AND THE FACT
THAT WE HAVE THE FAMILY STILL OPERATING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING?
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF CIGAR LABELS, GO TO THE
HISTORY CENTER, THERE ARE LABELS THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE,
SOLD OFF, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS SURVIVES AND NOW WE HAVE A

SURVIVING STRUCTURE, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TAMPA HISTORY,
WE'RE NOT JUST GOING THROUGH PHOTOS, BUT WE CAN TAKE PEOPLE
TO THE STRUCTURE AND SAY, HEY, THIS EXISTS AND WE PRESERVED
IT.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS.
THANKS.
11:25:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:25:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S AN HONOR TO SEE THIS, AS FAR AS MAINTAINING AND KEEPING
AND PRESERVING IT.
WAY BACK WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING, YOU CALL THEM BUCKEYES.
IN SPANISH -- I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY CALL THEM -- IT SOUNDS
LIKE A CREEPY CREATURE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS TRANSLATED
BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T SAY THE WORD MICHIGAN AVENUE.
THEY CAME UP WITH NAMES.
WHEN YOU SPOKE IN SPANISH, YOU UNDERSTOOD WHERE YOU CAME
FROM, NEVER WORD IN ENGLISH, TRANSLATE TO SPANISH WITH LIKE
A SONG.
THEY WOULD SING TO YOU.
I'VE KNOWN THE FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS.
MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WORKED AS ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS THERE FOR
YEARS.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THIS FAMILY SAW THE FUTURE AND WHERE IT
WAS GOING AND PRESERVED THIS BUILDING.

NOT ONLY DID THEY DO THAT WHEN THEY MOVED THEIR OPERATION TO
THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, THEY DID SOMETHING THAT NO ONE DOES.
THEY BUILT HOUSING.
THEY BUILT EDUCATIONAL SCHOOLS.
THEY BUILT THE FARM.
THEY BUILT THE CIGAR MAKERS.
THEY DID EVERYTHING, SO YOU WORK AND PLAY WHERE YOU LIVE.
THAT'S HOW IT USED TO BE IN THE DAYS WHEN THEY WERE IN YBOR
CITY, THAT YOU LIVED AND WORKED WHERE YOU PLAYED.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
IN FACT, TWO CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS, IN FACT, TOMMY FRANK
HIMSELF, THE GENERAL WHO WENT TO WAR LEADING THE IRAQ AND
IRANIAN WAR WAY BACK THEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACTORY THEY
HAVE ON 22nd STREET, WALK UP AND SEE A CERTIFICATE SIGNED
BY GENERAL TOMMY FRANKS, ONCE IN YBOR CITY AND WANTED TO BUY
CIGARS.
LET'S GO WHERE I KNOW YOU CAN GET THE BEST CIGAR.
HE WAS VERY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL THAT I TOOK HIM THERE.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL THING.
TOURED THE WHOLE FACTORY.
HUMIDOR FACTORY, AND HE WAS THERE TO SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE IN
YBOR CITY HAD MANUFACTURED.
IT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
IT IS A SAVIOR OF A BUILDING.
SOMEBODY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO GET A BUILDING LIKE THIS

BUILT.
THINK IN THE AUDIENCE, TO GET THIS BUILDING CERTIFIED AS AN
HISTORICAL BUILDING.
SHE TOLD ME YEARS AGO SHE WOULD DO THAT.
I SOMEWHAT BELIEVED HER.
BUT SHE DID AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:27:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I REALLY WANT TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT I HAVE TO
GO.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE?
11:27:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, THIS IS IN YOUR
DISTRICT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE?
I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:27:54AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER HL25-8468, HPC-25-29, AN ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING NIETO-FUENTE
BUCKEYE LOCATED AT 2708 NORTH 18th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA,

AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A
LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:28:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:28:35AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 19,
2026 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:28:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:28:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
I KNOW LIANA HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I'M SO EXCITED.
FUNNY ENOUGH, MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN CLEANING OUT SOME STUFF IN
OUR HOUSE AND BROUGHT ME THIS EMPTY CIGAR BOX THAT I'VE HAD
FOREVER.
I THINK I BOUGHT IT BEFORE I MOVED BACK TO TAMPA.
I JUST SAW IT IN A THRIFT STORE SOMEWHERE OR ANTIQUE STORE
AND BOUGHT IT.
I LOOKED DOWN AT IT AND IT IS A FUENTE CIGAR BOX.
I ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN MY OFFICE.

I FORGOT TO BRING IT UP.
I'LL HAVE TO SHOW IT TO YOU.
YEAH, IT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL HISTORY THAT THE FAMILY
HAS IN THIS CITY.
I KNOW WE REZONED THIS PROPERTY ALREADY.
REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU DO WITH IT.
CONGRATULATIONS GOING THROUGH THE ACTUAL, THE VERY DIFFICULT
PROCESS OF MAKING THIS A HISTORICAL STRUCTURE AND PROTECTING
IT.
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO DO THAT SORT OF WORK BECAUSE
IT IS TRULY A LABOR OF LOVE.
THANK YOU.
11:29:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUILDING REALLY.
THAT WAS A FASCINATING PRESENTATION.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, FOR THE FAMILY AND FOR
EVERYONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH, IT WAS WONDERFUL.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:30:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHENEVER -- BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, I SEE
MR. FOWLER HERE WITH PARKS AND REC.
IS THERE ANY WAY FOR HIS PRESENTATION, NUMBER 38, I THINK IT
IS, FOR DISABILITY PARKS, WE CAN HAVE THAT DONE BEFORE

LUNCH?
11:30:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE STAFF
REPORTS, 35, 36, 37, 43 AND 45.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. FOWLER IS ON FOR 34.
WE CAN DO TWO IN A ROW.
34 AND 38.
TWO AT ONE.
IS THAT OKAY WITH COUNCIL.
HEARING NO OBJECTION?
MR. FOWLER, 34 AND 38.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:31:20AM >>TED FOWLER:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:31:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
34 FIRST, PLEASE.
11:31:29AM >>TED FOWLER:
I WAS ASKED TO LOOK INTO BEING ABLE TO MOVE
THE STRUCTURE AT JBL.
A, IT WOULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE.
PROBABLY DRIVE IT UP FOUR TIMES.
BUT A LITTLE MORE HISTORY ON THE ATTENUATOR DOCK.
IT WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED, IT IS TO BREAK UP THE WATER
FLOW.

AT THAT POINT OF THE RIVER, YOU HAVE THE TWO SEAWALLS.
ANY KIND OF NATURAL WATER, WHETHER WEATHER DRIVEN OR THROUGH
WAKE WITH BOATS, IT CAUSES A COMMOTION THAT MAKES IT ROUGH
WATER.
SO THAT ATTENUATOR DOCK WAS DESIGNED AND INSTALLED AT THE
TIME OF THE OPENING TO BENEFIT THE RIVER CENTER ROWING
PROGRAM AS WELL, BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE CALM WATERS WHICH WE
HAVE 135 KIDS COMING THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY IN THE ROWING
PROGRAM, NOT TO MENTION WE HAVE BLAKE AND ROBINSON FOLKS
THAT ROW FOR OUR TEAM TAMPA BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT
OPPORTUNITY AT THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS.
WE ALSO HAVE HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND EFFORT
UNIVERSITIES THAT USE IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THEIR SPRING
PRACTICES.
SO NOT TO HAVE IT THERE OR REPLACED DOES KIND OF NOT GIVE
PEOPLE THE BEST EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO LAUNCH
SCULLING, ROWING, KAYAKS, OR ANY KIND OF NONMOTORIZED
VEHICLES TO USE THE SYSTEM THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE
USED.
IT NEEDS TO STAY WHERE IT WAS DESIGNED TO STAY BECAUSE IT
WAS A SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF CALMING THE WATERS.
11:32:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:32:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN DID THIS DOCK -- WHEN WAS IT HIT?
11:33:03AM >>TED FOWLER:
I BELIEVE IT WAS 2019.
11:33:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS WAS HIT SEVEN YEARS AGO, AND THEY

HAVEN'T HAD ANY TROUBLE USING SCULLING BOATS SINCE THEN.
11:33:12AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
I'M SPEAKING TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT.
I WAS ASKED TO EXPLORE IF WE COULD MOVE IT FOR FUTURE.
11:33:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED THAT.
11:33:23AM >>TED FOWLER:
THAT'S WHY I WAS EXPLAINING THAT.
11:33:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS ITEM IS TO MOVE 1.1 MILLION, BUT I COULD
HAVE SWORN WE ALREADY DID THE GADSDEN PARK ONE AT A PRIOR --
11:33:35AM >>TED FOWLER:
THAT 1.1 MILLION WAS A TOTAL BETWEEN THE LOWRY
PARK BOARDWALK, GADSDEN MONEY AND ATTENUATOR DOCK.
11:33:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS SAYS JBL ATTENUATOR AND GADSDEN PARK.
LOWRY PARK WAS A DIFFERENT ONE.
11:33:49AM >>TED FOWLER:
THE 1.1 MILLION, THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
11:33:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNH-UNH.
NO.
11:33:54AM >>TED FOWLER:
I KNOW ONE OF THE MOTIONS IN THERE, IT GOT
CONVOLUTED.
11:34:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE
WE CAN'T APPROVE 1.1 MILLION WHEN WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED, IF
I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 700 FOR GADSDEN.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BE THE CORRECT NUMBER.
AGAIN, AND THIS IS JUST ME PERSONALLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE ROWING, THAT THEY MIGHT NEED THIS,
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS WHO DON'T HAVE DUGOUTS, WHO
DON'T HAVE OTHER THINGS AND HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A REALLY

LONG TIME.
TO ME, THIS IS JUST NOT THE BEST PLACE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME, BUT I CANNOT VOTE FOR
THIS BECAUSE I SIMPLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE
OF HIGHER PRIORITY THAN LETTING PEOPLE OFF A DOCK.
AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS TELLING ME, TOO.
THEY REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON PARKS, BUT THEY WANT THIS MONEY
TO GO SOMEWHERE THAT HASN'T HAD THE ATTENTION THAT JBL HAS.
SO THAT'S WHY I CAN'T VOTE FOR THIS.
I'LL SEE WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY.
11:35:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:35:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN REGARDS TO PARK IMPROVEMENTS, I KNOW
ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS, TARAH BLUMA, MENTIONED
AS WE HAVE FUTURE DISCUSSIONS AT ANOTHER MEETING WITH, I
DON'T WANT TO SAY EXCESS FUNDS, BUT LEFTOVER FUNDS, I THINK
WE COULD APPROVE THIS TODAY, BUT KEEP IN MIND THOSE PARKS
THAT HAVE LOTS OF NEEDS.
AS YOU THROW OUT A NUMBER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS
$2.5 MILLION, IF I RECALL, BUT ANYWAYS, AT THE FUTURE
DISCUSSION, WHEN WE SEE THOSE LEFTOVER FUNDS OR ANY SURPLUS
FUNDS, WE SHOULD LOOK AT DEDICATING THOSE TO THE PARKS THAT
HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS NOT HERE.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT HE'S MADE QUITE A FEW
COMMENTS ABOUT HOW RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED HERE,

THOSE PARKS ARE NEGLECTED.
YES, THEY PAY A LOT OF PROPERTY TAXES, BUT I CAN MAKE A LIST
OF PARKS THAT I GO TO WITH MY STEP DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE,
JUST BASIC THINGS, BENCHES THAT ARE JUST UNSAFE.
A LOT OF STUFF HAS BEEN REPAIRED, BUT IT'S A LOT OF LITTLE
THINGS THAT REALLY SPRUCE UP A PARK.
WHEN PEOPLE SEE THOSE INVESTMENTS, WHETHER IT'S DUGOUTS,
BENCHES, THEY FEEL GOOD THAT THEY KNOW THEY ARE BEING HEARD
AND THAT THOSE NEEDS ARE BEING ADDRESSED FOR THEIR CHILDREN
AND THEIR FAMILIES.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY, BUT KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT THAT, ANY EXTRA FUNDS IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE
PRIORITIZE SOME OF THESE NEGLECTED PARTS.
11:36:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST FOR CLARITY, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
MR. FOWLER ON A LIST OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES.
AND I HAVE THAT LIST TO BRING.
I'VE FORWARDED IT TO MS. KOPESKY TO FORWARD TO OUR
DISCUSSION OF UNSPENT MONEY ON THE PARK DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
IT'S A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE LIST.
IT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE.
BUT AT LEAST WE CAN GO THROUGH AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT
THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS PROGRAMMED OUT AND WHAT THEY NEED
AND WHAT THEY PROGRAMMED OUT AND WHAT THEY ARE READY TO MOVE
FORWARD ON.
IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO MONEY.

I'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO THE DISCUSSION.
MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?
I'LL BRING UP THAT IF THIS IS THE INCORRECT AMOUNT, I WOULD
RECOMMEND --
11:37:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CANNOT VOTE ON THIS --
11:37:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I'LL RECOMMEND IS THAT WE PAUSE THIS
DISCUSSION.
ARE YOU ABLE TO BRING US BEFORE CLOSE OF BUSINESS TO BRING
US THE CORRECT AMOUNT THAT YOU WANT US TO VOTE ON FOR THIS
OR DIVERT IT TO A DIFFERENT DAY?
11:37:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED A FULLY NEW RESOLUTION.
IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN WITH THE CORRECT AMOUNT.
I THINK WE MOVE IT TO FEBRUARY 5th SO WE HAVE THE RIGHT
AMOUNT OF MONEY.
11:37:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS IT ONLY FOR THAT REBUILDING.
11:37:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
11:37:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M ALMOST POSITIVE.
I WANT TO SAY WE ALREADY APPROVED THE GADSDEN PARK PART OF
THIS.
WE'VE DONE THAT ALREADY.
11:37:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CONFIRMED WITH THE CLERK, THERE IS NO
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FILED.
11:37:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO GET THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
11:37:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN'T DO A PEN AND INK CHANGE TO THE
DOLLAR FIGURE.

11:38:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
FEBRUARY 5.
I MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM WITH THE CORRECTED RESOLUTION
WITH THE CORRECTED AMOUNT TO FEBRUARY 5.
11:38:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
UNLESS THEY ARE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK AFTER
LUNCH.
11:38:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
11:38:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, THE NUMBER IS NOT THE POINT.
THE POINT IS, EVEN IF WE HAVE $5 MILLION, IT'S NOT NEARLY
ENOUGH.
OTHER PARKS HAVE NOT HAD ATTENTION SINCE BEFORE 2029.
11:38:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE.
THAT WOULD BE YOUR DECISION TO VOTE YES OR NO ON.
11:38:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I'M TRYING TO TALK PEOPLE INTO NOT VOTING
FOR IT.
THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.
THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION.
11:38:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PROCEDURALLY, COME BACK AFTER LUNCH WITH A
RESOLUTION.
11:38:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCILWOMAN MAKES A MOTION AND GETS A
SECOND, IT IS ON THE FLOOR.
11:38:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MADE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO FEBRUARY 5th.
11:38:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:38:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M FINE WITH MOVING IT TO FEBRUARY 5th.
I VOTE FOR A LOT OF BIG PARK PROJECTS.
I WAS PROUD TO FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
WITH GADSDEN PARK, PROUDLY SUPPORT THAT.
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I DO HEAR ABOUT PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
VERY PROUD TO VOTE FOR THE EAST TAMPA PARK FOR THE
RECREATION CENTER.
THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
EAST TAMPA PARK DEFICITS AND RECREATION DEFICITS HAVE BEEN
TALKED ABOUT LITERALLY FOR DECADES.
I DO WANT TO BRING UP, THOUGH, SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE A
LONG TIME AGO, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, IT WAS DONE YEARS AGO.
IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, THE DISTRICT THAT HAD THE BIGGEST
DEFICIT WAS DISTRICT 7.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET.
I BELIEVE THE K-BAR RANCH PARK.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
I ALWAYS WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY, LOOK,
I'M TERMED OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO PICK SOMEBODY NEW FOR ME
AND WHOEVER COMES IN IN MY POSITION, SHE OR HE HAS GOT TO
FIGHT HARD FOR THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE IF THE PERSON SITTING
HERE OFTEN DOESN'T BRING STUFF UP IN NORTH TAMPA, A LOT OF
TIMES IT COMES UP BECAUSE WE ARE THE ALASKA OF TAMPA.
I WISH MORE PEOPLE WOULD COME HERE TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR

WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH.
WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT, I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT SOUTH TAMPA.
GADSDEN PARK, THE NEXT ITEM HAS TO DO A LOT WITH SOUTH
TAMPA.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON SUPPORTS THAT AS WELL.
WE'VE ALWAYS GOT TO REMEMBER THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I'M OKAY WITH CONTINUING IT.
I THINK THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION INTERNALLY.
JULIAN B. LANE IS ONE OF OUR FLAGSHIP PARKS AND WE WANT IT
TO BE STELLAR AND SO FORTH.
BUT IF THE COUNCILWOMAN NEEDS MORE INFORMATION AND TIME FOR
IT, I'M FINE WITH THAT AS A COURTESY.
11:40:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
YOU HAVE ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS IN THE CITY.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH
THE CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT.
YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH TECHNOLOGY.
YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH HOW MANY PARKS, 60s, 70s, 80s,
90s, UP TO 2026.
I CAN TELL YOU THE PARK I PLAYED IN, WHATEVER IT WAS WHEN WE
WERE THERE, SAVED A LOT OF KIDS' LIVES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW PARKS THAT HAS NOT JUST ONE BUT TWO
HALL OF FAMERS IN BASEBALL.

THAT'S CUSCADEN PARK.
IT CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
I GO BY THERE AND VISIT ALL THE TIME.
JUST DRIVE BY FOR MEMORIES.
AND THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF ANYTHING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
AND THAT PARK SHOULD BE A HISTORICAL TYPE.
IF EVER BUILT BACK, SHOULD BE BUILT BACK HISTORICALLY LIKE
IT WAS.
SOFTBALL DIAMOND ON THE NORTHERN PART.
TWO LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS IN THE CENTER OF THE PARK AND YOU
HAD THE MAJOR LEAGUE PARK ON THE NORTHERN -- EXCUSE ME, THE
SOUTHERN PART OF THE PARK AND SOFTBALL DIAMOND WAS IN THE
NORTHERN PARK.
CENTER, TWO PEEWEE TEAMS, MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAMS, KIDS.
THAT PARK HELD HUNDREDS OF KIDS.
AT THAT TIME, NO LITTLE LEAGUE, NOTHING AROUND.
ONLY ONE THING.
ONE FEMALE COACH AND ONE MALE COACH.
THEY HANDLE EVERYTHING FROM TENNIS TO BASKETBALL TO
FOOTBALL, TO BASEBALL, TO ANYTHING IN SPORTS, THEY HANDLE.
MAN HANDLED THE BOYS AND -- LADY IN TENNIS.
TWO MAJOR LEAGUE GUYS, BUT OTHER MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYERS THAT
WENT UP.
NO, I'M NOT ONE OF THEM.
I ADMIT TO THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT SAVED MANY LIVES WHEN NO ONE HAD
ANYTHING, BUT THEY HAD A PARK.
NO ONE HAD TV, EVEN THOUGH TVs INVENTED.
WALKED EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
WORKED WHERE THEY LIVED AND GREW A FAMILY AND SUPPORTED A
FAMILY WITH VERY LITTLE.
AND EVERYONE WAS HAPPY.
NOW WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT MORE AND VERY FEW ARE HAPPY.
YOUR BUDGET DOES NOT MEET THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL THE
PARKS YOU HAVE.
IF YOU LOOK BACK AT ALL THE CHANGES YOU HAD TO DO AND YOUR
PREDECESSORS HAD TO DO, IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB TO DO.
I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND STAFF FOR DOING WHAT YOU CAN.
11:43:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO
FEBRUARY 5, 2026.
11:43:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCEPT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION
SAYS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN WITH THE CORRECT AMOUNT
OF MONEY FOR THE SPECIFIC THING BECAUSE WE ALREADY APPROVED
THE GADSDEN PARK MONEY SO THEY COULD GET STARTED.
11:43:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:43:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
NOW WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 38.
11:43:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. FOWLER, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING
HERE LIVE.
WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IS TRUE, YOU HAVE A VERY HARD
JOB.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT TALK ABOUT AND CLAMOR FOR
PARKS AND ALL THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE A VERY HARD JOB.
THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD IS BECAUSE WE
HAVE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS IN CRA AREAS,
A PLAN OF ACTION FOR DISABILITY AND ACCESSIBLE PARKS IN OUR
CRAs.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AREAS OUTSIDE OF OUR CRA THAT -- IN
TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR
PLAYGROUNDS ARE FULLY ACCESSIBLE.
BY FULLY ACCESSIBLE, I DON'T JUST MEAN A PATHWAY FOR SOMEONE
TO GET THERE, AS IMPORTANT AS THAT IS, BUT ALSO ACCESSIBLE
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT FOR SOMEBODY WITH A DISABILITY, SENSORY
ISSUES AND SO FORTH.
YOU TAKE GADSDEN PARK.
OBVIOUSLY DEALING WITH THAT.
CHALLENGERS PLAYING THERE FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY IN THE

LITTLE LEAGUE, A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS, OBVIOUSLY, NORTH TAMPA,
TALKING ABOUT THE K-BAR RANCH PARK, WHAT THAT WILL DO FOR
HAVING DISABILITY ACCESSIBILITY THERE.
I KNOW THAT EAST TAMPA RECREATION CENTER HAS SOME WONDERFUL
ACCESSIBILITY EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS A GREAT WIN FOR OUR
FRIENDS IN EAST TAMPA.
SO THE QUESTION IS, SIR, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT GOING
FORWARD?
I'LL STOP TALKING SO YOU CAN ANSWER.
THANK YOU.
11:45:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN.
11:45:14AM >>TED FOWLER:
TED FOWLER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO THIS IS A LIST THAT OUR PLANNING AND DESIGN FOLKS CAME UP
WITH, WHERE THEY VISITED EACH OF OUR PARKS.
EACH OF THE PARKS LISTED HAVE AT LEAST ONE TO TWO ELEMENTS
OF ADA ACCESSIBILITY, WHETHER IT'S TABLES THAT YOU CAN HAVE
A WHEELCHAIR UNDER, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, POURED SERVICES.
THIS IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR STOCK.
GOING FORWARD, AND JUST FOR DELINEATION, THE NEW TAMPA
COMMUNITY AND FREEDOM PLAYGROUND ARE TOTAL, ALL-ABILITIES
PLAYGROUNDS.
GOING FORWARD, IT'S OUR BEST PRACTICES WHETHER IT IS A NEW
BUILD OR REFURBISHING EXISTING PROPERTY THAT WE GO THROUGH
WITH ADA IN MIND AS TOP OF MIND.
WHATEVER DESIGN, WHATEVER PLAY EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER BENCHES

WE PUT IN, THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST PRIORITY.
THAT'S IT.
11:46:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
QUESTION FOR YOU.
WHAT IS THEN THE PLAN -- BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO MOTION --
I CAN DO IT NOW OR AT THE END, BECAUSE I'M GONE HERE IN
NOVEMBER.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ANNUAL UPDATES ON WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN EVERY SINGLE PARK FOR DISABILITY EQUIPMENT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE K-BAR RANCH PARK,
WHAT'S GOING TO BE FORESEEN THERE WITH REGARDS TO DISABILITY
ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT FOR NEW TAMPA?
11:46:43AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CANNOT RIGHT NOW.
11:46:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN YOU SPEAK ON ANY PARK IN NEW TAMPA OR
NORTH TAMPA OR SOUTH TAMPA AREA?
11:46:51AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN SPEAK ON FAIR OAKS, AS YOU ALREADY
DELINEATED.
THAT IS A WONDERFUL.
IT HAS ITS OWN WHEELCHAIR SWING.
POURED SERVICES.
ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS EVERYWHERE TO EVERY FEATURE.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE REASON I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT IS
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF -- SO THE PROPERTY YOU MENTIONED IS
IN THAT PROCESS.
SO I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO IT.

11:47:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GET IT.
I GET IT.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SPEAK OF IN TERMS OF SOUTH TAMPA
PARKS?
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS NOT HERE.
HE FULLY SUPPORTS THIS AND SO FORTH.
SOUTH TAMPA OR NEWER NORTH TAMPA PARKS THAT ARE NOT IN
CONTRACT, WHERE WE COULD HAVE SOME DISABILITY ACCESSIBLE
EQUIPMENT.
COPELAND PARK, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:47:35AM >>TED FOWLER:
COPELAND PARK, ONE OF THEIR TWO PLAYGROUNDS
DOES HAVE ADA ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT.
YES, IT DOES.
I CAN SPEAK TO SOUTH TAMPA, PORT TAMPA, KATE JACKSON, THOSE
ALSO HAVE ADA ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT.
THE OTHER ONE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT, I DON'T WANT TO
MENTION THE NAME, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
11:47:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I UNDERSTAND IT AND APPRECIATE THAT.
BY THE WAY, A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE NEW TAMPA AREA ARE VERY
EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARK.
ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE HERE FOR INTERNATIONAL
HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, SAID SHAH IS A BIG LEADER IN THE
COMMUNITY THERE.
COUNCIL, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, UNLESS --
11:48:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAITING.

11:48:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, YOU TALK IN THIS ABOUT ADA
AND ALL ABILITIES.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADA AND ALL
ABILITIES?
11:48:37AM >>TED FOWLER:
ALL-ABILITY PLAYGROUNDS ARE THE NEW TAMPA
PLAYGROUND THAT WE'RE GOING TO RENAME IN A FEW WEEKS AND THE
ONE IN MacFARLANE PARK, THE FREEDOM PLAYGROUND.
THEY ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR CHILDREN OF ALL
ABILITIES.
EVERY TOUCH POINT.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DESIGN AND PUT IN THERE IS FOR CHILDREN
OF ALL ABILITIES.
IT DOES NOT EXCLUDE THOSE -- ANY OTHER CHILDREN, BUT THOSE
ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUNDS.
THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE LISTED HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR MORE
COMPONENTS THAT PROVIDE ADA STIMULI.
11:49:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:49:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WILLING TO HEAR A
MOTION.
11:49:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW THAT MacFARLANE PARK, FREEDOM
PLAYGROUND, THAT WAS THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOURCES AND
THEN, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE NEW TAMPA.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE ALL ABILITIES PARKS IN ALL OF THE FOUR
PARTS OF TAMPA.

WE HAVE WEST TAMPA.
WE HAVE NEW AND NORTH TAMPA.
ONE IN EAST TAMPA AND ONE IN SOUTH TAMPA, BECAUSE THOSE, I
MEAN, AND THERE IS A REASON.
WE MET ON IT THIS WEEK WITH AVA BOONSTOPPEL AND BRUCE
BOONSTOPPEL, NAMING IT AFTER THE LATE HARRISON BOONSTOPPEL
BECAUSE OF THE VALUES OF THE PARK AND THE YOUNG MAN'S LIFE
AND EVERYTHING.
I WOULD LEAVE IT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON WHO WILL BE LEAVING
IN A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG, I'M
SURE YOU WILL HAVE A LONG TIME HERE FOR THAT TO CHAMPION,
FOR YOUR DISTRICTS, AN ALL-ABILITIES PARK.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ONE IN EAST TAMPA.
MY MOTION, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT WE HAVE -- HOW DO
I DO THIS IN TERMS OF COURSE AND SCOPE GOING FORWARD FROM
HERE?
EVERY YEAR, LET'S SAY --
11:50:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:50:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, THAT WE HAVE A LIVE REPORT
FROM PARKS AND RECREATION CITYWIDE ON WHAT EFFORTS ARE BEING
DONE ON PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND ADA ACCESSIBILITY
THROUGHOUT OUR CITY OF TAMPA, THAT IT GET DONE EVERY YEAR,
IF I MAY.
11:50:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIRST REGULAR MEETING.

11:50:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD THAT BE A FIVE-MINUTE STAFF REPORT OR
SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE LONGER?
11:50:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE DO IT AS A STAFF REPORT AT
THIS POINT AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.
FIVE-MINUTE STAFF REPORT.
FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE BUILDING -- WE'RE COORDINATING ON
THE SWANN PARK.
WE HAVE KATE JACKSON THERE, WE'D HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK ABOUT MAKING THIS AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PARK RIGHT THERE FOR
SOUTH TAMPA, SINCE WE'VE GOT THIS ON THE TABLE.
THERE IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE
WORKING ON.
IT'S REALLY FASCINATING THAT THERE ARE A GROUP OF COMMUNITY
ACTIVISTS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND PAYING PRIVATE
MONEY WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DO THAT.
MR. FOWLER HAS BEEN VERY ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
11:51:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:51:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR 42 BEFORE WE GO
TO LUNCH.
44 MAY BE LONG.

11:52:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SUPPOSED TO BE FIVE MINUTES.
11:52:07AM >> HAVE YOU EVER MET THIS COUNCIL?
[ LAUGHTER ]
11:52:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW -- WE HAVE TO AT LEAST TRY
TO FOLLOW OUR RULES.
IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES WITH THE PUBLIC, WE BETTER
START FOLLOWING THE RULES OURSELVES.
11:52:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
YOU'VE GOT MY FULL SUPPORT.
HELP ME OUT.
11:52:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS.
I APOLOGIZE.
FOR THIS ONE, ON MR. GARCIA -- I APOLOGIZE FOR STAFF THAT'S
HERE, MR. TONY GARCIA WAS GOING TO BE HERE AFTER LUNCH.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE THIS UP AFTER LUNCH.
MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
11:52:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GUESS THAT ANSWERS THAT.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
WE ARE -- WE'LL HAVE 1:30 HEARINGS.
AFTER THAT, SHOULD BE SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
BRANDON CAMPBELL, WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 44,
FIVE-MINUTE REPORT.
SET THE TIMER.
11:53:05AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRANDON CAMPBELL, MOBILITY DIRECTOR, HERE TO GIVE YOU A

QUICK UPDATE ON OUR REPAVING PROGRESS OVER THE LAST QUARTER
AND THE FEW PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE CURRENT
QUARTER.
SO I UPLOADED A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT IN RESPONSE THAT SORT
OF OUTLINES THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE.
I WANTED TO MENTION THAT OVER THE LAST QUARTER, OUR IN-HOUSE
FORCES COMPLETED ABOUT 15 LANE MILES OF RESURFACING AND OUR
CONTRACTOR DID APPROXIMATELY THE SAME AMOUNT.
A LITTLE OVER 31 MILES ACTUALLY OF RESURFACING IN THE LAST
QUARTER.
THOSE IN-HOUSE PROJECTS INCLUDED THE GOMEZ CORRIDOR AND SOME
OF THE SIDE STREETS COMING OFF OF IT.
IF I CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
WE ALSO IN-HOUSE DID THE REPAVING OF HENRY AND 37th.
YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THIS SAYS ONGOING.
BUT SINCE THE MAP WAS CREATED, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
AZEELE STREET IN THE BEACH PARK AREA AND THE SIDE STREETS
SURROUNDING IT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL.
AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR IN-HOUSE PAVING FOR THIS QUARTER.
THE CONTRACTOR PAVING INCLUDED YUKON STREET, RIVERVIEW
DRIVE, RENFREW PLACE, LINEBAUGH AVENUE BETWEEN FLORIDA AND
12th STREET.
AND WATERS AVENUE BETWEEN NEBRASKA AND 22nd STREET.
MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO ORIENT THIS WAY.

LAST PAVING PROJECT WITH THE CONTRACTOR IN THE LAST QUARTER
WAS SWANN AVENUE, LOIS AVENUE, AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING
STREETS.
FOR THE UPCOMING QUARTER, THESE WERE ACTUALLY NOT INCLUDED
IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT BROUGHT A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL
PAGES TO SHARE WITH YOU.
OUR NEXT IN-HOUSE PAVING PROJECT IS IN THE PORT TAMPA CITY
AREA.
IT IS McCOY STREET, AND THEN WE HAVE ISSUED WORK ORDERS
FOR OUR CONTRACTOR IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING
YBOR CITY, SEVERAL DIFFERENT DISCONNECTED SEGMENTS IN NEED
OF SOME ADDITIONAL ATTENTION.
7th AVENUE, 2nd AVENUE, AND TO NUCCIO PARKWAY TO NAME A
FEW.
AND THEN COMMERCE PALMS AT COMPTON DRIVE, WE DO HAVE A
TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLATION PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF
THOSE TWO.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT PROJECT, WE ARE DOING RESURFACING
IN THE AREA.
WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS COMING UP.
WE HAVE 30th STREET BETWEEN BOUGAINVILLEA AND FOWLER.
WE HAVE SEVERAL SURTAX FUNDED SEGMENTS INCLUDING CYPRESS
STREET, BASICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY LIMITS ON THE WEST
SIDE OF THE RIVER.
WE HAVE MacDILL BETWEEN BAY TO BAY AND GANDY.

THOSE ARE NOT IN THE IMMEDIATE NEXT SET, BUT THOSE SHOULD BE
COMING WITHIN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS OR SO.
WITH THAT, I WILL HAPPILY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:56:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE THE PRIVILEGE OF SAYING THAT YOU GUYS
-- SOME OF THIS STARTED WITH YOUR PREDECESSOR VIK BHIDE
BRINGING THE PAVEMENT EQUIPMENT ON, DOUBLING THAT, ADDING A
SECOND PAVER.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.
WITH THIS COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT AND WHAT
YOU ALL ARE DOING IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
NEEDED AND DEMANDED.
WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED MORE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAN PROBABLY
HAVE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS ON PAVING IN THE CITY.
IT'S DRAMATIC.
I RAN ON A PAVE OUR DAMN STREET CAMPAIGN.
WE ARE PAVING OUR DAMN STREETS.
I APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE AND WHAT YOU ARE
DOING.
IT IS NOTICEABLE.
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA RECOGNIZE THE
ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.
AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FUNDING
SUPPORT AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, ENSURING
THIS IS A PRIORITY AND WE TALKED ABOUT LEFTOVER MONEY THAT
WE TRANSFERRED TO IT.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLES, HOW AGGRESSIVE THIS
COUNCIL HAS BEEN THROUGHOUT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO ON
THIS ENSURING THAT WE HAVE REALLY ENSURED THAT THE FUNDING
THAT WE PROVIDE YOU WITH THE FUNDING THAT YOU NEED, WHENEVER
YOU NEED MORE FUNDING AND YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO LET US
KNOW BECAUSE WE'LL FIND IT SO YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE DOING
WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, FOLLOWED BY MIRANDA.
11:57:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COULD YOU E-MAIL ALL OF US THESE IMAGES?
11:57:45AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES, CERTAINLY.
MOST OF THEM ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT THE LAST THREE ARE
NOT.
11:57:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT EVERYTHING SO WE CAN TELL PEOPLE
WHAT IS COMING.
IN REGARDS TO BEACH PARK, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SEVERAL
PEOPLE.
ONE RESIDENT IN PARTICULAR, AND I'VE BEEN TELLING HER FOR
TWO YEARS, I'M GOING TO TELL THE MAYOR, I'LL TELL THE MAYOR.
AND SHE DID SEND AN E-MAIL ABOUT A MONTH AGO, HEY, THE ROADS
ARE GETTING PAVED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO SHE'S GRATEFUL.
THEY HAVE ALREADY SAID IT, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

11:58:15AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
THANK YOU.
11:58:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT WE GET IS THE QUALITY OF OUR
ROADS.
TO SHOW THIS TO THE PUBLIC, ALREADY, WHAT'S DONE AND WHAT'S
COMING, I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY GRATEFUL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE BACKUP MATERIAL IN THE STAFF REPORT HAS WHAT'S BEEN
DONE, BUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE JUST
SO WE CAN TELL THE COMMUNITY.
11:58:36AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YES.
11:58:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:58:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I VOTED FOR EVERY ROAD PROJECT, MY NAME WAS NOT MENTIONED
BUT I'M NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR IT.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I HEARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
THEY TELL ME, AND YOU HAVE HOW MANY MILES OF CITY OF TAMPA
OF ROADS, OVER 2,000?
11:58:56AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW THE FIGURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
11:58:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ROAD EQUALS SAME AMOUNT OF PIPES.
IF NOT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE PIPES UNDER THE ROAD.
NOT ONLY PAVING THE ROAD, YOU HAVE THE PROJECT MOVING UNDER
THE ROADS, BEING IN THE PIPES PROGRAM.

THAT'S ALSO WORKING, THE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES GOING
TO THE PROPERTY LOCATION AND TO THE HOME FOR THE WATER.
AMAZING BOTH PROJECTS ARE GOING ON.
ONE IS $2.9 BILLION PROJECT AND THAT IS BEING PAID CASH UP
FRONT.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT DUE TO THE INFLATION THAT WE'VE HAD
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE
NEXT, BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE LONG-TERM PROJECTS.
THEY DON'T LAST FOR A YEAR, TWO YEARS AND FINISHED.
THEY TAKE MANY YEARS TO GET DONE.
I BELIEVE AT THE END, WE ARE GOING TO BE SHORT ON CASH OR
YOU HAVE TO -- UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE TRYING TO
DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND THE MONIES ARE
BEING SPENT CORRECTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING DONE.
IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT THREE OR
FOUR YEARS, YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT PROJECT
TO MAKE IT GO FUNDABLE WITHOUT BEING BONDED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:00:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR FIXING SOMETHING
THAT YOU SPENT THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS RIDING HORSES ON --
12:00:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL BRING MY HORSE TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I'LL DO IT, TOO.
12:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW YOU WILL.
WE DON'T HAVE A HITCHING POST IN THE PARKING LOT.

12:00:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ELECTRIC AND HITCHING --
12:00:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAD SOMETHING.
12:00:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAD TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE.
I JUST SAW THE COMMERCE PALMS AND COMPTON DRIVE.
I KNOW IN NEW TAMPA, WE ARE ALL VERY EXCITED FOR THIS.
IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE YMCA.
THAT ROAD IS AWFUL.
THAT'S VERY WELCOME.
OF COURSE, NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD, WHICH IS GOING TO START THIS
QUARTER I BELIEVE IT IS, COULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR, THIS IS
VERY IMPORTANT, LET MY OFFICE KNOW WHEN THESE START.
ESPECIALLY NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD.
THAT'S BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE WITH AFT FUNDS.
THAT'S LIKE A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT I
BELIEVE IT IS, FOR NEW TAMPA.
AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND WORKING WITH
US AND GETTING THINGS DONE IN THE ALASKA OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
12:01:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU MAKE THOSE PHONE CALLS FOR THE
WASTE MANAGEMENT, YBOR CITY ROADS?
12:01:17PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I WILL DO THAT TODAY.
12:01:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE?
WE ARE GOING TO DO LUNCH.
LET'S GET BACK AT LIKE 1:25 SO WE CAN BE IN OUR SEATS READY
FOR THE 1:30 HEARING.
1:25.
HEAR THAT, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
[LUNCH RECESS]

01:30:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:30:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:30:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:30:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:30:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
01:30:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
01:30:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
01:30:16PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:30:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WILL BE BACK.
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BACK.
01:30:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I REQUEST TO RESCHEDULE ITEM 32 AT MARCH 6,
2026 FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
01:30:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE ITEM 32
TO MARCH 6, AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:30:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
01:30:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
SKATING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER 31.
OH, WE HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FIRST.
SO WE ARE GOING TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN FIRST.
ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 31, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR
RIGHT HAND, AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
01:31:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO TALK.
[SWEARING IN]
01:31:28PM >> I DO.
01:31:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A CARD FROM FRANK LOGAN.
IS HE HERE?
FRANK LOGAN.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE HERE BECAUSE I HAD YOUR CARD.
I HELD ON TO IT JUST KNOWING THAT YOU ARE HERE.
THANK YOU YES, MA'AM, YOU ARE ON.
01:31:41PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 31, WHICH IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR
THE FILE NO. SU1-25-77-C FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2920 --
SORRY, 2924 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
THE PETITIONER FOR THIS MATTER IS DANIEL ANDERI.
AND HE APPLIED AN APPLICATION WITH THE ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR
A DWELLING OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNIT.
THAT DECISION WAS DENIED BY ZONING STAFF, AND LAURA MARLEY
WILL BE APPEARING TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT MATTER WAS -- WHY THAT
APPLICATION WAS DENIED.
I PROVIDED -- HOPEFULLY, MR. SHELBY PASSED OUT THE PACKETS --
THANK YOU -- THAT INCLUDE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY
COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING.
I ALSO PROVIDED A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61, WHICH GOVERNS
THE PROCESS FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING.
AND I HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A SAMPLE MOTION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
USE REGARDING THIS MATTER.
AS OUTLINED IN CODE EXCEPTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J-3,
A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING, WHICH MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT
NEW EVIDENCE AND TAKE TESTIMONY REGARDING THIS MATTER.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS HEARING, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO
ACTIONS AT THE CONCLUSION AFTER YOU HEAR FROM THE WITNESSES
REGARDING THIS APPLICATION.
CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR OR OVERTURN THE DECISION OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS LAURA MARLEY, WHO WILL GIVE A
BACKGROUND OF THE APPLICATION, ALONG WITH THE REASONS WHY
THE APPLICATION FOR THE DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WAS
DENIED.
AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, IN THE STAFF'S REPORT, SHE INCLUDED
CODE SECTIONS 27-132, THAT PROVIDES THE TWO REQUIREMENTS FOR
THIS TYPE OF USE, AND SO PLEASE USE THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT
AS THE TWO REQUIREMENTS.
IT DOES MEET ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE ARE HERE
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENT.
01:34:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MISS MARLEY, BEFORE WE GET TO YOU, MR. SHELBY.
01:34:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU HAVE -- DID YOU WANT ME -- BECAUSE
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL, IF
THERE HAS BEEN ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS APPLIED TO THIS
ISSUE THAT YOU DISCLOSE THAT AT THIS TIME AND WITH WHOM AND
THE SUBSTANCE.
01:34:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
01:34:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SUBMITTED ANY AND ALL REGARDING THIS.
I DID WANT TO -- I SPOKE WITH MR. SHELBY ABOUT THIS, OUR
ATTORNEY, BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS EFFORT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, IN THE BUDGET, WE HAD SECURED -- AND I WORK WITH
THE PORTICO FOR SECURING FUNDS FOR A HOUSING PROGRAM THAT
COULD POTENTIALLY BE CONNECTED TO THIS.
NUMBER ONE, I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT.
I TALKED ABOUT THAT TO OUR ATTORNEY, MR. SHELBY, AND IT DOES
NOT CONSTITUTE A CONFLICT THAT I COULD NOT VOTE FOR IT.
IF SO, IT WOULD BE TRUE FOR ALL OF US.
PASTOR LaROSA, WHO IS HERE, CALLED ME A FEW TIMES REGARDING
PROCEDURE ON THIS HEARING.
AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
NEITHER DID HE.
AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THE PROCEDURE ON IT.
NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE OF IT.
IN TERMS OF THE MERITS OF THE CASE OR ANYTHING OF THAT
NATURE, JUST THE PROCEDURE.
NUMBER TWO, ON A PERSONAL BASIS, I VOLUNTEERED NUMEROUS TIMES
WITH THE PORTICO AND CIVIC AND COMMUNITY EVENTS TO DISCLOSE
THAT AND PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I BELIEVE I CAN VOTE OUT OF STANDARDS AND OUT OF AN
ABUNDANCE OF --
01:35:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT
FINANCIAL AFFILIATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BEFORE YOU?01:35:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR.
01:35:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR A RELATIVE OR PRINCIPAL?
01:35:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
01:35:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NUMBER TWO IS, CAN YOU BE FAIR AND
IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE COMPETENT
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD?
01:35:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, I BELIEVE I CAN.
01:36:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT UNDER FLORIDA
STATUTES, YOU AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE.
01:36:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:36:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I GUESS THE SAME THING.
THE PORTICO.
PORTICO IS OWNED BY A CHURCH THAT I AM A MEMBER OF, HYDE PARK
METHODIST.
AND ALSO I PUT ON EVENTS AT THE PORTICO OCCASIONALLY
INCLUDING A WEEKLY EVENT THAT IS TECHNICALLY BOOKED THROUGH
A NONPROFIT, CAFE CON TAMPA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
I GIVE MONEY TO THEM, BUT I AM NOT PERSONALLY INVOLVED.
I ALSO HAVE GIVEN SPEECHES THERE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
HOMELESS ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY -- I GIVE THEM MONEY.
I DON'T GET MONEY FROM THEM.
01:36:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU TODAY,
YOU DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST OR DOES A RELATIVE OR
YOUR COMPANY RELATING TO THIS MATTER?
01:36:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
01:36:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN YOU BASED ON THE COMPETENT AND
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND
BASE YOUR DECISION ON THAT?
01:37:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
01:37:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AGAIN MY OPINION, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION,
YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO VOTE.
NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WARRANTS YOU ABSTAINING.
01:37:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SHOULD ALSO SAY THAT IDEA DIDN'T COME FROM
ME AND PROBABLY DIDN'T COME -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME
FROM, BUT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPOSAL.
01:37:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANY OTHER EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS?
SEEING NONE, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:37:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NOTHING ELSE, STAFF PRESENTATION.
MISS MARLEY.
YOU ARE ON MUTE.
01:37:29PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
01:37:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, THERE YOU GO.
WAITING FOR THE SCREEN.
THERE WE GO.
WE SEE THE SCREEN -- CAN WE GET IT ON THE COUNCIL MONITORS
AS WELL.
AND FLIP SCREENS BETWEEN MISS MARLEY AND THE PRESENTATION ON
THE COUNCIL MONITORS, PLEASE.
THERE WE GO.
PROCEED.
01:38:03PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
THANK YOU, SU1-25-0000077, THE PETITIONER IS
DANIEL ANDERI AND COMPANY IS PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS INC.
2924 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
THE ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS FOR DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED.
HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FROM EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER
KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
YOU CAN TELL RIGHT NOW IT IS VACANT.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN.
IT IS A SMALL SITE, BUT THEY HAVE A DESIGN EXCEPTION THROUGH
URBAN DESIGN FOR THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
THEY REDUCE THEIR FRONT SETBACKS, SIDE SETBACKS, AND REDUCE
THE PARKING TO ONE SPACE.
THAT APPLICATION WITH AS APPROVED BY THE URBAN DESIGN
MANAGER AT THE TIME.
AND THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THE REQUEST FOR A DWELLING SINGLE-FAMILY IS THE PROPOSED USE
MUST BE LOCATED TO RESIDENTIAL USES ON AT LEAST TWO
BOUNDARIES.
THERE IS ONE RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY.
ALL THE OTHERS ARE COMMERCIAL.
THE SINGLE-FAMILY THAT IS AN EXISTING DWELLING MAY BE
EXPANDED.
IT DOESN'T MEET THESE BECAUSE IT IS A VACANT SITE.
SINGLE-FAMILY WILL MEET THE SETBACKS FOR THE EAST TAMPA
OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
01:39:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
JUST TO CONFIRM, ONE SIDE IS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, CORRECT?
01:39:51PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
CORRECT.
01:39:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE STAFF'S PRESENTATION?
01:39:55PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
YES, SIR.
01:39:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
APPLICANT, PETITIONER.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
01:40:10PM >> DANIEL ANDERI, 130 WEST CYPRESS, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
01:40:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY, IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY, I FORGOT, WE
SPOKE ABOUT THIS, CORRECT, ON THE PORTICO SUNDAY MORNING.
01:40:25PM >> IT WAS ABOUT THE PROCEDURE.
01:40:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PASTOR LaROSA.
I JUST REMEMBERED.
THANK YOU.
01:40:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FACE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
01:40:37PM >> DANIEL ANDERI, 1308 WEST CYPRESS, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE SU-1 APPLICATION AT 2924
EAST MLK BOULEVARD.
LAURA DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING OUR INITIAL APPLICATION.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY TO
THIS CASE.
THIS PROPERTY SINCE 1926 HAD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME STRUCTURE
ON IT.
UP TO MAY 2024 WHEN THERE WAS A FIRE ON AN ADJACENT VACANT
PROPERTY TO THE WEST, WHICH THEN DESTROYED THE SINGLE-FAMILY
HOME ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE DAMAGES FROM THE FIRE AND THE SMOKE WERE SUBSTANTIAL
ENOUGH THAT THE OWNER, WHICH IS PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS,
DECIDED THAT IT WAS BEST TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE WITH THE
INTENT TO ALWAYS TRY TO REBUILD ANOTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOME
ON THIS PROPERTY.
THAT REALLY BRINGS US HERE TODAY GIVEN THAT THE UNDERLYING
ZONING IS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, WE WOULD REQUIRE AN SU-1
APPLICATION, AND GIVEN HOW THE CURRENT ZONING CODES READ WITH
SECTION 27-132 UNDERNEATH THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING
REQUIREMENTS, WE DO NOT MEET THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS IN
ORDER TO RESTORE THIS PROPERTY BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL USE.
WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY ON SECTION 27-132, SUBSECTION A, IS
THE REQUIREMENT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL FOR.
WE DO NOT -- THIS PARCEL IS NOT ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL
USES.
THERE IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL LOT TO THE WEST, A RAILROAD TO
THE EAST, AND A CHURCH TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE HERE, I GUESS, REQUESTING APPROVAL.
MYSELF AND ALSO CO-FOUNDER OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS
JUSTIN LaROSA IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
01:42:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT?
01:42:50PM >> PARDON ME.
01:42:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'RE THE APPLICANT?
01:42:52PM >> YES.
JUSTIN LaROSA.
AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-FOUNDERS OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION.
I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING AND ADD SOMETHING AS YOU ALL
DELIBERATE.
PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS A SEPARATE 501-C-3 DIFFERENT
THAN THE PORTICO.
THE PORTICO INITIATIVES CONNECTED TO HYDE PARK METHODIST
CHURCH.
WHERE WORTH CO-HOUSING SOLUTIONS HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HYDE
PARK METHODIST CHURCH.
ONE CLARIFICATION THERE.
ALSO, DANIEL DID A GOOD JOB OF OVERVIEWING.
A FIRE IN THE ADJACENT LOT WAS DISCOVERED BY THE FIRE MARSHAL,
NOT TO BE CONNECTED WITH US IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
SOME OUR HOPE -- PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS ABOUT BRIDGING
FORMALLY HOMELESS MEN TO TRANSFORMATION THROUGH EMPLOYMENT,
SUPPORT CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING.
AND WE HAVE HAD SINCE -- YOU KNOW, SINCE 2016, WE HAVE BEEN
HELPING FOLKS DO THAT.
SO THIS IS -- THIS IS ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT THAT --
THAT DID THAT.
AND WE ARE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CHURCH IS HERE AND FORCED TO PROVIDE
SOME OF THEIR OWN COMMENTARY WHY IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE.
AND PASTOR FRANK LOGAN IS HERE.
AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
WE DISAGREE.
AND -- BUT WE HAVE BEEN RESPECTFUL THE WHOLE TIME WITH ONE
ANOTHER.
AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS THERE ARE NO POLICE CALLS OUT
TO THIS RESIDENCE.
AND THE -- THE -- AND PASTOR FRANK REACHED OUT TO ME AUGUST
2014 TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR THEIR CHURCH -- FOR A
CHURCH PARKING LOT.
THAT IS OUR INFORMATION, AND I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
01:44:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU BROUGHT UP THE CHURCH, AND WHERE IS THE
CHURCH LOCATED?
01:44:51PM >> DANIEL I WILL SHOW YOU.
01:44:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY TOP IS A WHEEL.
OTHER WAY.
THERE WE GO.
01:44:56PM >> TO THE NORTH-NORTHWEST IS -- WHERE THE CHURCH IS.
AND THE SMALL DASHED RED LINE IS THE PARCEL.
01:45:06PM >> THAT TRIANGULAR.
01:45:09PM >> REGULARLY-SHAPED LOT.
TRIANGULAR.
01:45:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES THAT FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION?
YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL REBUTTAL IF
YOU NEED IT.
01:45:19PM >> THANK YOU.
01:45:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR PUBLIC TO
SPEAK.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LINE UP ON THE
SIDE.
I WILL CALL YOU UP ONE AT A TIME.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH AND YOU START WITH YOUR
NAME.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS APPLICATION, WE CAN START
WITH NUMBER ONE.
ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO LINE UP AND WILL BE IN ORDER, YOU
CAN DO THAT.
YES, PASTOR.
FLIP IT UP ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND YOU CAN ZOOM BACK OUT IF YOU WANT TO.
IF THAT IS ENOUGH.
AND CAN WE GET THE WOLF ON THE PUBLIC MONITORS, PLEASE.
THERE WE GO.
01:46:20PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS FRANK LOGAN.
I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT AND PASTOR OF FAITH OPEN LOVE
MINISTRIES, A CHURCH THAT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH
SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE
OUR CONCERNS.
THERE ARE CONCERNS OF MYSELF AND ALSO MY CONGREGATION, WHO
ARE REPRESENTED BY A FEW OF US HERE TODAY.
FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST
DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE NOT AGAINST HOUSING.
WE BELIEVE IN THOUGHTFUL GROWTH THAT PROTECTS RESIDENTS AND
STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
I PERSONALLY MET WITH PASTOR JUSTIN.
WE HAD RESPECTFUL CONVERSATIONS AFTER THE PROPERTY HAD THE
FIRE.
I DID REACH OUT TO HIM TO SEE IF IT WAS AVAILABLE FOR US TO
PURCHASE FOR A PARKING LOT, BUT WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE
WANT TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THE HISTORY THAT WE HAD WITH THE
PROPERTY.
THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY HAS GIVEN US REAL PUBLIC SAFETY
CONCERNS.
THE PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED, FUNCTIONING AS WHAT WE
UNDERSTAND TO BE A TRANSITIONAL HOME, WHICH HAD FREQUENT
TURNOVERS AND PATTERNS THAT DISRUPTED THE AREA.
WE DO SUPPORT SUCH PROGRAMS, BUT THE CITY ALSO HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSIDER THE REAL IMPACT OF THE PROPERTIES
ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THE BACK YARD OF THIS PARTICULAR HOME, IT FACES ONE OF
THE ENTRANCES TO OUR CHURCH.
AND MANY OF CONGREGANTS WOULD COME TO ME AFTER THE PRAYER
SESSIONS WHEN THEY WOULD EXIT THE CHURCH SMELL DIFFERENT
SMOKE AND THINGS IN THE AIR WITH THE ACTIVITY GOING ON IN
THE BACK YARD.
AND THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF TRAFFIC AROUND THE HOUSE.
THERE WASN'T ADEQUATE PARKING, SO THERE WILL BE CARS THAT
WOULD BE PARKED ON THE VACANT LOT THAT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO
THE HOUSE AND OUR CHURCH AS WELL.
AND THESE THINGS CAUSED US CONCERN.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS HOUSE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH
NEIGHBORHOOD AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT BACK IN 1926.
AND BACK THEN, THE AREA WAS RESIDENTIAL, BUT SINCE THEN, IT
HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED.
TODAY, THE LOT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR CHURCH, WHICH SERVES
THE CHILDREN, FAMILIES, SENIORS, AND HOLDS DIFFERENT PRAYER
SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
SO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE TO
US BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.
WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE TAMPA BACK TO 1929.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD THE FUTURE.
01:49:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
01:49:26PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:49:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
01:49:37PM >> JOHNNY CORTINAS, PART OF THE FAITH OPEN LOVE MINISTRY
CONGREGATION.
AND I KNOW THIS HEARING IS ABOUT THE DWELLING ITSELF, THE
ZONING, COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN CONSIDERATION TO BUILD THE
BUILDING OF THE HOUSE, BUT I THINK BEYOND THE BUILDING OF
THE UNIT, WE HAVE TO ALSO CONSIDER WHAT THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES, WHERE COMMERCIAL GENERAL
PROPERTY CAN INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL.
BUT I THINK THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY CLOSE TO THE TRACKS AND
STREET THAT IT IS IN -- IT IS A HIGH-VOLUME TRAFFIC STREET.
AND I, MYSELF, I MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS AT THE CHURCH.
AND I MAINTAIN -- MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS EARLY IN THE MORNING,
MIDDAY DURING THE WEEK.
IT IS VERY HIGH TRAFFIC.
SO ONCE A FAMILY OCCUPIES THAT PROPERTY, IT IS A FAMILY
DWELLING, THEN THE SAFETY OF THE FAMILY AND THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE LOCATION.
I HAVE BEEN IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
I HAVE OWNED HOMES.
I HAVE BEEN IN A HOUSE -- HOUSING THROUGH AIR FORCE, WHERE
I AM RETIRED AIR FORCE.
AND PARTICIPATED IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, RENTALS, AND OWNING
HOUSES.
AND I SEE A SAFETY CONCERN BEYOND THE DWELLING BEING BUILT.
REFERENCE TO TRAFFIC AND EVEN THE NOISE FROM THE TRACKS AND
THE RAILROAD TRAIN.
SO IN CONSIDERATION WITH THAT, I THINK AND MOVING FORWARD
AND CONSIDERING HOW TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2040, I THINK
THAT THIS PARTICULAR CONSIDERATION SHOULD ALSO BE THOUGHT --
SHOULD BE VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH REGARDS TO THE SAFETY OF THE
FAMILIES THAT WOULD OCCUPY IT, EITHER INDIVIDUAL OWNER OR
THE PROPERTY BEING RENTED OUT.
TASK AND BURDEN IS BEING PUT ON THE FAMILIES REGARDING THE
TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE.
I HAVE BEEN IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WHERE I HAVE SEEN
SIGNS "SLOW DOWN, CHILDREN AT PLAY."
AND THEN ALSO SPEED BUMPS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING IN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.
STREET FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT THERE IS THERE.
SO I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PROPOSAL HAS BEEN DECLINED
ALREADY BY THE 27-132, BUT I ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER THE FACT
THAT BEYOND THE BUILDING, THERE IS ALSO CONSIDERATIONS FOR
THE FAMILIES.
THANK YOU.
01:52:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
WERE YOU SWORN IN?
WHEN WE STARTED?
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:52:25PM >> YOU ARE TALKING TO ME?
01:52:28PM >> ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS THAT COME IN SINCE -- IF YOU
ARE PLANNING TO SPEAK, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
[SWEARING IN]
01:52:38PM >> ABSOLUTELY, YES.
THANK YOU.
01:52:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
01:52:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHALETTE DAVIS.
I RUN A NONPROFIT, INC. OF METRO TAMPA.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART IN SUPPORT OF PORTICO
HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
AND REALLY JUST WANT TO TALK OF THE DIFFERENCES MADE,
NOT ONLY IN THE LIVES OF THE -- OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE
SERVE, BUT JUST IN THE LIVES OF THESE HOMELESS WORKING MEN.
I HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO THIS MINISTRY SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
I -- YOU KNOW, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR HYDE PARK
UNITED METHODIST IN THEIR JUSTICE MINISTRY.
AND WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH A LOT OF THESE GENTLEMEN
WHENEVER THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE BURDENS OF FINES AND
FEES IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOVE, INC. AT THAT TIME.
MR. MICHAEL DOYLE ALONG WITH THEN THAD VERADAY, A VOLUNTEER
FOR LOVE, INC., HELPED THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVED IN THIS HOME
REGAIN SOME SENSE OF FINANCIAL FREEDOM AND ALLOWED THEM TO
EARN A DRIVER'S LICENSE AGAIN.
JUST RECENTLY, JUST IN THE LAST YEAR, I HAVE HAD TO TURN TO
PORTICO HOUSING TO HELP ME HOUSE AN 82-YEAR-OLD GENTLEMAN
WHO I FOUND OUT IN THE FREEZING COLD ONE JANUARY.
AND IT BROKE MY HEART, BECAUSE THIS MAN HAD WORKED HIS
ENTIRE LIFE.
HE WAS A PROFESSOR.
HE HAD ADVANCED DEGREES.
HE WORKED HIS ENTIRE LIFE.
WE FOUND HIM OUT IN THE FREEZING COLD BECAUSE HE COULD NOT
AFFORD TO RENT AT HIS PLACE ANYMORE.
AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION THAT IS
WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO FIND JUST THAT BRIDGE, THAT EMERGENCY
HOUSING FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO GIVE HIM SOME REFUGE OUT OF THE
COLD AND GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO REGROUP, COLLABORATE TOGETHER,
AND FIND A MORE PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION FOR HIM.
AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THIS GENTLEMAN.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT NEIGHBORS MAY PERCEIVE THINGS TO BE
HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AT THIS PROPERTY.
I WASN'T THERE.
I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
I HONESTLY KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING WITH THESE
PEOPLE, AND I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING IN TERMS OF
TROUBLES LIKE THAT BECAUSE THESE HOUSES ARE SET UP TO BE
SOBER LIVING.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS YOU MAKE TODAY WILL
BE A DECISION TO SUPPORT THE FUTURES OF WORKING HOMELESS MEN
HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
01:55:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE IN PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
OKAY.
NOW WE WILL GO TO ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTS.
I ACTUALLY HAVE -- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
MISS MARLEY.
01:56:00PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
YES, I AM.
01:56:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE GET HER IMAGE ON THE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN YOU PUT UP AN OVERHEAD OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND KIND OF GIVE
US A SENSE OF THE CURRENT USE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THAT BLOCK
AND ACROSS THE STREET?
01:56:19PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
SURE, IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN -- CAN
YOU SEE MY SCREEN?
01:56:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN AND -- THERE YOU
GO.
THANK YOU.
01:56:54PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
THIS IS THE -- LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM EAST
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
TO THE RIGHT WHERE THERE IS THE PALM TREES, THAT IS THE
TRAIN TRACKS.
TO THE NORTHWEST, THIS IS THE HOUSE -- THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP.
AND BRING UP THE AERIAL.
01:57:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE WILL SHOW THE AERIAL.
01:57:24PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE TRAIN TRACKS TO EAST.
01:57:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE USAGES OF THE
PROPERTIES AROUND -- LIKE IN THAT WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND
ADJACENT?
I SEE --
01:57:36PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
ACROSS THE STREET IS COMMERCIAL.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE BUSINESS NAME IS.
TO THE WEST IS VACANT COMMERCIAL.
NEXT TO THAT IS ANOTHER COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN TO THE -- ACROSS THE TRAIN TRACKS ON THE NORTHEAST,
THAT'S MULTIFAMILY.
01:58:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:58:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AREN'T THERE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ACROSS
THE STREET?
I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS COMMERCIAL.
IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, BUT IS THAT AREA IS PRETTY
RESIDENTIAL ALONG MLK?
01:58:15PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
LET ME GO TO AN AERIAL AND SEE IF I CAN
ACTUALLY LOCATE WHAT THAT IS.
I AM SORRY.
01:58:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS A TIGER ACROSS THE SCREEN.
01:58:43PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
I LOVE TIGERS.
[LAUGHTER]
01:58:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE JUST NEED SOME --
01:58:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD JOB.
YOU CAN NAME THE ANIMALS.
VERY PROUD OF YOU.
01:58:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ME AND OUR PRESIDENT.
[LAUGHTER]
01:59:00PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
SO THIS IS LIKE -- CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN
LOOKING AT THE AERIAL.
I MEAN, LOOKING AT ACROSS THE STREET.
01:59:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A SUBSTATION.
01:59:11PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
THAT IS A SUBSTATION.
AND THIS IS -- I -- I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS,
BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT IS USED.
AND THEN FURTHER DOWN, WE HAVE -- IT LOOKS LIKE A
BARBERSHOP.
01:59:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.
I WASN'T ABLE TO PLACE IT, BUT NOW I KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.
01:59:44PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
AND THIS WAY, IT LOOKS LIKE -- THERE IS SOME
PARKING AND RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT IS ACROSS THE STREET OVER
BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
HERE THIS IS THE MULTIFAMILY THAT I WAS REFERENCING.
AND THEN OVER HERE, SOME MORE SINGLE-FAMILY.
SO THE SINGLE-FAMILY IS BEHIND ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL-TYPE
USES.
WHILE THIS ISN'T VERY CLEAR WHAT IT IS, IF IT WAS USED AS
COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS
THE SUBSTATION.
02:00:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHURCH, ON
OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHAT IS THAT?
02:00:35PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
THIS ARE IS --
02:00:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GETTING DIZZY.
02:00:40PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
I AM SO SORRY.
I AM NOT EXACT LEISURE WHAT THIS IS TAMPA.
02:00:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO DESCRIBE IT TO US.
OKAY.
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT, YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL.
IN YOUR REBUTTAL, CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES
AND FILL IN THE GAPS WITH THESE PICTURES.
AND START WITH YOUR NAME.
02:01:23PM >> SO MORE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT --
02:01:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN.
02:01:38PM >> DANIEL ANDERI.
02:01:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE WILL START YOUR TIME NOW.
THANK YOU.
02:01:42PM >> THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS HERE BY THE PEN IN THE RED DASHED
LINE.
AND JUST MORE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THEN AS WE SAW ALONG MLK, MORE TOWARD THE EAST AND ALONG
THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF MLK, THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY
STRUCTURES THAT EITHER AS WE SAW IN THE EXAMPLE ARE VACANT
OR MORE RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE
PROPERTY.
AND THEN SIMILARLY TO THE SOUTH OF MLK, THERE
IS RM-16, RM-18 FILLED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY USES AS WELL.
JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER, I GUESS, COMMENTS THAT CAME UP.
FOR PROXIMITY, THE RAILROAD -- THERE IS A CLEARANCE AND WILL
BE THERE IF WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR REBUTTAL.
02:02:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
02:02:53PM >> JUSTIN LaROSA.
JUST TO KNOW THAT EACH MAN IN OUR PROGRAM HAS A CASE MANAGER.
AND ALSO HAS A THERAPIST TO SEE.
SO THE CASE MANAGER, WHO IS HERE, ACTUALLY STOPS BY AT LEAST
ONCE A WEEK.
SO IT IS A MONITORED KIND OF SITUATION.
AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU RULE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE
FORWARD, AND I WOULD WELCOME TO WORK WITH PASTOR FRANK IF
THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT, AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO CALLS TO PROPERTY
FOR ANY PROBLEMS.
02:03:25PM >> THE TYPICAL DURATION FOR AN OCCUPANT AS PART OF THE
PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION IS AT LEAST 12 MONTHS.
02:03:34PM >> 12 MONTHS FOLLOWING THE PROGRAMMATIC REQUIREMENTS, YES.
02:03:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL?
02:03:42PM >> YES, SIR.
02:03:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
YOU HAD SOMETHING?
STAY THERE FOR A SECOND, SHE MAY HAVE A QUESTION.
02:03:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF SHE
IS AVAILABLE.
02:03:53PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
YES, MA'AM.
02:03:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS SIMPLY AN SU-1 FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND THEY ARE JUST SIMPLY ASKING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING,
CORRECT?
THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SORT OF SPECIAL EXTRA
CLASSIFICATION BECAUSE OF --
02:04:16PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
CORRECT.
02:04:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:04:19PM >>LAURA MARLEY:
YOU ARE WELCOME.
02:04:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
I SAW A GENTLEMAN IN THE FRONT ROW.
ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT?
02:04:27PM >> NO, I KNOW YOU DID PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU DIDN'T CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I WANTED TO SAY ONE
THING --
ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS CLOSED UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO --
02:04:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY RECOMMENDATION.
02:04:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WILL HAVE TO GIVE REBUTTAL.
02:04:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HE HAS THE RIGHT.
IF THE GENTLEMAN IS HERE --
02:04:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
02:04:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:04:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, AND THE CLERK WILL SWEAR YOU
IN.
[SWEARING IN]
02:05:05PM >> YES.
02:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
02:05:09PM >> ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY DANIELS.
I -- I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT, BUT I WAS THERE.
I WITNESSED THE FIRE.
SO I SAW HOW IT ALL STARTED.
THE GUY WHO WAS LIVING THERE, AGAIN, I FEEL COMPASSIONATE
ABOUT THAT GUY BECAUSE JUST AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION.
PORTICO PROVIDES IT AS A TRANSITIONAL SITUATION FOR PEOPLE
WITH HOUSING AND THAT NATURE.
I AM GLAD THAT HE LIVED.
BECAUSE I -- I HAD TO TELL HIM TO GET OUT OF THERE, BECAUSE
HE WAS TRYING TO DO THE MOST.
BUT HE GOT OUT ALIVE, SO I AM GLAD HE DIDN'T GET HARMED, BUT
I DO THINK THAT PORTICO PLANS TO TRY TO REUSE THAT PROPERTY
FOR THE SAME TYPE OF AGENDA THAT THEY WERE DOING, AND I WILL
SUPPORT THAT COMPLETELY IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO
USE IT FOR AS A TRANSITIONAL HOME FOR PLACEMENT OF PEOPLE IN
THOSE TYPE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT
THAT.
I HOPE YOU DO TOO.
02:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
MISS POYNOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
02:06:17PM >> SINCE YOU OPEN IT BACK UP.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
EVERY TIME I GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING PEOPLE THEY COMPLAIN 02:06:24PM OF THE HOMELESS, EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I AM SURE YOU HEAR TOO.
THE PROBLEM IS IF WE PUSH BACK EVERY TIME SOMEONE IS TRYING
TO PUT IN A FACILITY OR A WAY TO GET THOSE FOLKS OFF THE
STREET, THEN IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE WHOLE CONCEPT, YOU
KNOW.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
THEY GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE -- I HAVE PROVIDED HOUSING FOR PEOPLE
WITH MENTAL ISSUES AND WHO HAD ISSUE BUFFERS.
AND IT IS A TOUGH ROAD TO HOE.
I CAN'T DO IT NOW BECAUSE MY PROPERTIES ARE 900 MILES AWAY
AND I CANNOT BABYSIT THEM.
I PERSONALLY, IN THE PAST IF I LIVED A MILE FROM THERE,
COULD DEAL WITH SOME OF THAT.
THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES.
TRUST ME, I LIVE IN A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE A BUNCH
OF CRAZY PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE OVER THE YEARS.
THEY FOUND EVERY CRAZY PERSON TO SELL HOUSES TO.
THE FUTURE IS THE INHABITANTS -- I AM THERE, AND I AM THE
CRAZIEST OF CRAZIES.
BOTTOM LINE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT IS AGAINST THE HOUSE
WHO IS THE ISSUE BUT WHO IS GOING TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE TRULY WANT?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I JUST -- THIS IS JUST
MY OBSERVATIONS.
YOU WANT PEOPLE OFF THE STREET, BUT THEN YOU DON'T WANT THEM
TO LIVE NEXT TO YOU.
IT IS A HARD ROAD TO HOE.
WE DEALT WITH IT AT THE CIVIC CENTER.
WE HAD A GROCERY BOX AT THE CURB, AND WE HAD HOMELESS CAMPING
OUT AT THE PROPERTY EVERY TIME SOMEBODY PUT GROCERIES, THEY
WOULD BE GETTING FIRST DIBS ON THE GROCERIES.
ALL NEIGHBORS WERE PISSED OFF AT US BECAUSE WE WERE FEEDING
PEOPLE.
DAMNED IF DO YOU AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T, BUT WE GOT TO
FIGURE OUT WHERE WE START.
YOU CAN'T STOP -- WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM,
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS THE
PROBLEM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OCCUPANTS ARE THE ISSUE.
THANK YOU, HAVE A GOOD DAY.
02:08:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
YOU ALREADY SPOKE?
ONLY ONE BITE AT THE APPLE.
I SAW -- YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
02:08:39PM >> YES, I DO.
02:08:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WERE SWORN IN.
02:08:42PM >> I WAS NOT.
02:08:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[SWEARING IN]
02:08:52PM >> YES.
02:08:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
02:08:55PM >> MY NAME IS M.J. JOHNSON.
I AM PART OF LOVE, INC.
I KNOW CHALETTE CAME UP AND SPOKE EARLIER, BUT THE PORTICO
HOUSING, WHICH OFFERS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE MEN.
A FEW MEN THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW THAT RESIDE THERE OR RESIDED
THERE.
AND THEY TRULY JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK.
I HEARD EVERYTHING THAT THE CHURCH STATED, BUT THE CHURCH IS
ACTUALLY HERE TO SERVE.
SO IN ACTUALITY, WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER.
BEEN UP HERE BEFORE, AND IT IS JUST -- HOW CAN WE HAVE UNITY
IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS A WAY WHERE THESE MEN ARE
COMING FROM A PLACE OF -- THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN JUDGED.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE JUDGED ANYMORE AND THE HOUSING
PROVIDES THAT.
AND EVEN SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I CURRENTLY STAY IN A HOUSING
THAT IS TRANSITIONAL, AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE HELP AND THE
SERVICE THEY ARE PROVIDING.
TAKING YOUR LIFE BEING ON THE STREETS TO ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO
ACTUALLY CARE, AND THAT IS ALL THE PORTICO HOUSING IS
ATTEMPTING TO DO.
WE CAN COME WITH OUR WORRIES ALL DAY LONG, BUT TRULY ABOUT
HOW CAN WE SERVE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS A WAY THEY ARE
SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND HONESTLY, I SUPPORT IT.
IT MAY HAVE BURNT DOWN ONCE, WHATEVER HAPPENED BEFORE WILL
NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND I BELIEVE WE ALL SHOULD COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO
SUPPORT THESE MEN AND WOMEN FOR THAT MATTER.
THEY ARE GOING FROM ONE PHASE OF THEIR LIFE TO ANOTHER
PHASE.
TRULY, TRULY, WE DO NEED THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE CAN ALL DO YOU THIS
TOGETHER, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
02:10:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE IN FAVOR BECAUSE THE
APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE A REBUTTAL TO THE FAVORABLE
DISCUSSION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:10:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO TALK.
02:10:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN TALK.
MAKE A MOTION OR TALK OR TALK AND MAKE A MOTION.
02:10:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO MAKE A
MOTION IF HE WANTS TO.
02:11:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:11:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I UNDERSTAND THE PASSIONS ON BOTH SIDES, AND
UNFORTUNATELY, NOBODY SPOKE TO THE ISSUE IN HAND, WHICH IS
THE SU-1.
WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHO IS GOING TO LIVE THERE.
WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHAT IS BEING DONE.
ALL WE CAN CONSIDER IS THE PROPERTY RIGHT OR IS THE
SINGLE-FAMILY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION.
THAT IS ALL WE CAN CONSIDER.
WE CANNOT CONSIDER -- WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
THIS HOUSE COULD BE SOLD.
SHOULD THE HOUSE BELONG THERE?
SO I THOUGHT WHAT COUNCILMAN -- OR WHAT CHAIR CLENDENIN
ASKED ABOUT WHAT IS SURROUNDING IT.
AND IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE.
BECAUSE THERE ISN'T RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDING IT ON BOTH
SIDES.
BUT THE ONE SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS HAD THE
MULTIFAMILY.
SO, I MEAN, I -- I PERSONALLY WILL SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE IT
IS PUTTING HOUSING WHERE WE DESPERATELY NEED HOUSING.
BUT I JUST WANTED FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE TECHNICALLY CANNOT
CONSIDER ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID ABOUT WHAT THE PROPERTY IS
TO BE USED FOR, BECAUSE LEGALLY WE CAN'T DO THAT.
LEGALLY, WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE SU-1.
IS IT THE PROPER PLACE TO PUT SINGLE-FAMILY.
THANK YOU.
02:12:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR TALK?
02:12:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL TALK ,AND THEN I WILL MAKE A
MOTION.
02:12:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:12:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LOOKING AT SU-1.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTION IT.
WE CAN'T CONSIDER WHAT IS GOING ON THE PROPERTY.
IN LOOKING AT THIS, IT IS INTERESTING.
THIS PROPERTY GOES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
IF YOU GO WEST, YOU SEE WHERE THERE IS A LOT MORE
COMMERCIAL.
WHEN YOU START GOING EAST -- BASICALLY STARTING WITH THE
EMPTY LOTS ARE AND WHERE THIS HOUSE USED TO BE, EVEN THOUGH
IT IS NOT -- IT WAS ZONED CI ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
STREET, BUT A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., IN THIS SECTION, IS INTERESTING,
BECAUSE IT IS A VERY BUSY TRAVELED ROAD, BUT THERE IS A LOT
OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THERE, A LOT THAT ARE HISTORICAL AND
BEEN THERE 100 YEARS.
SOME ARE MID-CENTURY.
BUT RIGHT HERE, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WHEN YOU START ON
30th STREET, IT -- IT TRANSITIONS INTO A LOT MORE RESIDENTIAL.
NOW ON OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS, THERE IS THAT
MULTIFAMILY.
SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ON THAT SIDE.
WHEN WE GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIN TRACKS AND OTHER
SIDE OF THE STREET, A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
SO I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.
AND I WOULD BE MAKING A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL AND
AFFIRM THE SPECIAL USE BASED ON THAT.
NOW IF THIS -- ON OTHER SIDE GOING WEST WHERE YOU SEE A LOT
COMMERCIAL -- A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, IT WOULD BE
A DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU ARE GOING INTO THAT RESIDENTIAL
SECTION.
02:13:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO --
02:13:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS NO MOTION.
02:13:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO FOR DISCUSSION, I WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ODD SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT IS A VERY
UNIQUE PARCEL.
AND WHILE WE CRAFT RULES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO COVER AS
MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO
BE THOSE ONE-OFFS AND THE DIFFICULT POSITION WE PUT STAFF IN
WHEN THESE ISSUES COME UP.
WE ASK STAFF TO INTERPRET RULES BASED ON WHAT IS 99.9%.
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE GET THESE ODDBALLS THAT -- A
SQUARE PEG TRYING TO PUT IN A ROUND HOLE AND JUST DOESN'T.
WHERE THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT NOW, WHERE THIS ROAD IS, IT -- IF
NOT HERE, THEN WHERE.
THAT IS MY -- THE POINT THAT KEEPS -- I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE
USAGE AND STUFF ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THIS STICK PARCEL
DOESN'T WANT TO FIT WHAT WE LOOK AT AS FAR AS LONG-TERM LAND
USE AND OUR GOALS.
I THINK THIS IS REASONABLE REQUEST.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY STAFF DENIED IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO
CONFORM WITH THE BLACK AND WHITE OF THE TEXT.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND LOOK AT THE
PARCEL AND TRY TO DECIDE WHAT THE BEST USE OF THAT
PARTICULAR LAND IS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WILL SUPPORT THIS AS WELL, WHILE IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE
USE.
DO APPLAUD THE USE.
CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF
BEING ABLE TO HOUSE FOLKS AND HAVE TRANSITIONAL TYPE OF
HOUSING.
A CRISIS NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IS A NEED THAT WE -- AND I
APPLAUD THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PROVIDE THAT NEED.
BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE THAT SUFFER, AND IT
IS GOOD.
SO THIS IS -- AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE ONE-OFFS.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO CONFORM TO THE BLACK AND WHITE RULES BUT
I WILL SUPPORT IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:16:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU LOOK AT THIS UNDER ONE ITEM AND READS
THE PROPOSED USE MUST BE LOCATE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL
USE IN AT LEAST TWO BOUNDARIES.
AND ONLY ONE BOUNDARY IN THIS CASE; HOWEVER, THE NEED FOR
HOUSING AND THE APPLICATION, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PUBLIC
WAS SAYING OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT SMOKE AND ALL THAT KIND
OF STUFF.
AND I WOULD BE OUTRAGED MYSELF; HOWEVER, THAT IS WHAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS TO DO.
WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS JUST AN ISSUE THAT YOU CONFLICTS WITH
THE ZONINGS OF THE AREA.
SO I WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTING IT, BECAUSE ONE OVERRULES THE
OTHER ONE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE ON THE OTHER SAYS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NOTHING ELSE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL.
MOVE TO AFFIRM WHICH IS APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION
FOR THE SU1-25-0000077 FOR THE PROPERTY 2924 EAST DR. MARTIN
LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE PROSED USE MUST
BE LOCATED AND ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE ON AT LEAST
TWO BOUNDARIES OF ZONING LOT IN CODE SECTION 27-1372 FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASONS.
ONE, IT IS AN UNIQUE PARCEL NOT BECAUSE IT IS A TRIANGULAR
SHAPE, BUT IT ABUTS TRAIN TRACKS, WHICH IS NOT THE NORM.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE OF SHORT 30th STREET,
IT GOES FROM WHAT IS MORE COMMERCIAL TO GOING INTO
RESIDENTIAL.
AND WE SEE THAT WITH THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
ALSO BECAUSE THERE IS A MULTIFAMILY PARCEL ON OTHER SIDE OF
THE TRAIN TRACKS, SAME SIDE, NORTH SIDE OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER
KING, JR.
AND, AGAIN, THIS IS A -- THIS IS AN INTERESTING SITUATION.
I WILL SAYS IT UNIQUE.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I MAKE THIS MOTION.
02:17:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I HEARD A SECOND.
02:17:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT.
MY ONLY ADDITION WOULD BE ITS REPLACING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME
THAT WAS THERE.
02:18:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HISTORICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED A
HOME BUILT A CENTURY AGO.
ANOTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS MOVING INTO THAT.
SO WE ARE NOT MODIFYING AND CHANGING AND DOING DIFFERENT.
WE ARE GOING BY A STANDARD OF A STRUCTURE THAT PREDATES OUR
ZONING AND CODES.
ORIGINALLY, IT WAS SO SOLD, 100 YEARS AGO.
02:18:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THIS LOADED IN OR DO A ROLL CALL?
MOTION AND A SECOND, ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:18:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:18:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:18:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:18:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:18:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:18:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
02:18:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
02:18:46PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:18:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE ON TRACK
BACK TO STAFF REPORTS.
42.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
HEY, YOUNG MAN.
HEY, YOUNG MAN.
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY, HERE WE GO.
LET'S TALK OF RENAMING.
02:19:47PM >>MALLORY LaGASSE:
MALLORY LaGASSE, REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR A PRESENTATION OF A HONORARY STREET NAMING OF
TONY GARCIA, JR.
IF THEY CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION.
02:19:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S UP.
02:20:00PM >>MALLORY LaGASSE:
TONY GARCIA JR. WAS A RESPECTED LEADER
AND HIS COMMUNITY.
BORN IN TAMPA IN 1932, MR. GARCIA PROUDLY SERVED IN THE U.S.
MILITARY DURING WORLD WAR II AND THE KOREAN WAR.
AFTER RETURNING HOME, HE CONTINUED HIS COMMITMENT OF SERVICE
WITH 35 YEARS AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA USO.
DURING HIS TIME AT THE USO, MR. GARCIA WORKED HARD TO ENSURE
THAT MILITARY PERSONNEL PASSING THROUGH TAMPA FELT WELCOMED,
VALUED AND AT HOME.
HE BECAME KNOWN AS THE BOB HOPE OF TAMPA FORMING FRIENDSHIPS
WITH COUNTLESS SERVICE MEMBERS AND WELCOMING NATIONALLY
KNOWN ENTERTAINERS LIKE BOB HOPE, SHIRLEY TEMPLE AND JIMMY
STEWART TO ENTERTAIN THE TROOPS.
HIS WORK MADE TAMPA A MEMORABLE STOP FOR VETERANS AND ONE OF
THE STRONGEST ADVOCATES FOR THOSE WHO SERVED.
BEYOND HIS WORK WITH THE USO, MR. GARCIA WAS A CHAMPION FOR
WEST TAMPA.
SERVED AS BOARD MEMBER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AS THE WEST
TAMPA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND INSTRUMENTAL IN ITS REVIVAL.
PROUD OWNER OF THE HISTORY AND HELPED THE CENTRO ESPANOL
AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN FIESTA.
HE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF THE URBAN LEAGUE, LEADERSHIP WITH
THE FOUNDATION, AND CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMITTEE
FOR THE TAMPA UNITED FUND.
KNOWN FOR HIS WARMTH, PROFESSIONALISM, AND UNMISTAKABLE
STYLE, TONY GARCIA EMPHASIZED THE BODY OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
UPON HIS PASSING, HIS LEGACY WAS RECOGNIZED ON THE FLOOR OF
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WHERE CONGRESSMAN JIM DAVIS
ACKNOWLEDGED HIS ADVOCACY OF VETERANS AND CITY OF TAMPA AS WHOLE.
PER OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WANTS TO PUT
A HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN ON THE CORNER OF WEST CHERRY
STREET.
THIS LOCATION IS ADJACENT TO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK AND ALSO
NEXT TO THE CENTRO ESPANOL BUILDING AND HIGHLY VISIBLE TO
MANY COMMUNITY PEDESTRIANS.
IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HONORARY STREET
NAMING, WE REQUEST A FIRST READING FOR MARCH 26 OR AFTER.
AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:22:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS FIRST?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:22:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WANTED TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WANTED TO -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, INVITE TONY GARCIA TO
COME UP.
TONY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
02:22:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WANTS TO SING.
02:22:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BUT DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
02:22:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU COME SHOULD COME UP AND SING.
02:22:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SING "SUMMER OF '69."
02:22:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRYAN ADAMS.
02:22:54PM >> ENOUGH ABOUT ME.
THANK YOU.
TONY GARCIA.
A PLEASURE SEEING YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN IN THIS VENUE, EVEN
THOUGH IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE FOREIGN TO ME NOW IN
MY RETIREMENT, BUT I AM SO HONORED TO BE HERE BEFORE THIS
BODY, RECOGNIZING THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF MY FATHER.
ONLY A FEW OF YOU ON THE BOARD REALLY KNEW MY DAD.
I THINK CHARLIE, MAYBE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE --
02:23:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I COUNT FOR TWO.
02:23:24PM >> YOU COUNT FOR TWO.
GUIDO.
02:23:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NEVER GOT TO MEET HIM.
02:23:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHARLIE KNEW GEORGE WASHINGTON.
02:23:33PM >> CHARLIE ENJOYED MANY ADVENTURES.
CHARLIE -- ONE TIME YOU HAD A RESTAURANT ON KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, AND THROUGH A COUPLE OF MY DAD'S EVENTS, HE HAD
SOME CELEBRITIES OVER THERE THAT THAT YOU GOT TO MEET IN
ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE
PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE -- I HAVE NO -- I HAVE NO SINATRA PICTURES TO SHOW
YOU, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT I SHARED WITH YOU ALL SOME
PICTURES OF MY DAD'S EXPLOITS WITH SOME OF THE CELEBRITIES
THAT HE HAD BROUGHT.
MOST OF THE ONES THAT HE HAD BROUGHT WERE ONES THAT MADE
SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS ON THEIR OWN TO THE SERVICE
COMMUNITY.
MY DAD WAS IN THE AIR FORCE RESERVES.
AND HE WAS NOMINATED BY HIS STAFF SERGEANT TO BE CONSIDERED
FOR THE POSITION OF DIRECTOR OF THE USO, WHICH HE ASSUMED IN
1957, AND PROUDLY SERVED THAT FOR 35 YEARS.
HE ESTABLISHED A U.S. LOUNGE WHERE THE OLD HILLSBORO HOTEL
USED TO BE AT THE CORNER OF MADISON AND FLORIDA AND USED TO
BE A FRISCH'S BIG BOY, IF YOU REMEMBER, CHARLIE.
SERVICEMEN FROM MacDILL AND the PORT THAT SHIPS COME IN FROM
the NAVY, SERVICEMEN WOULD COME ON THEIR LEAVE AND GO TO THE
LOUNGE, AND DAD WILL GIVE THEM TICKETS THAT HE PROCURED FROM
VARIOUS PLACES FOR THEM TO EAT AT RESTAURANTS, FOR THEM TO
GO TO DIFFERENT MOVIES.
AND ALSO HAD A POOL TABLE UP IN HIS LOUNGE TO GO AHEAD AND
JUST PLAY AND a TYPEWRITER TO WRITE LETTERS TO THEIR FAMILIES
AND A PHONE WHERE THEY CAN CALL THEIR FAMILIES.
HE ALSO, ON TOP OF THAT, FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, HE HAD AN
ANNUAL CHRISTMAS SHOW AT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
AT THAT SHOW, WE SEND TWO FAMILIES HOME FOR CHRISTMAS, WHICH
WAS VERY, VERY NICE AS WELL.
ALSO, AS A SURPRISE, WOULD BRING A FAMILY INTO TAMPA FOR US
-- THE SERVICE PERSON THAT DID NOT KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILY
WAS GOING TO BE THERE.
HE DISGUISED THEM AS ELVES OR SOMETHING ON STAGE WHILE THE
OTHER PERFORMERS PERFORMED.
AND AT THE END, HE WOULD SURPRISE THEM.
AND THEY WOULD TAKE THEIR STUFF OFF, AND THERE WOULD BE A
GOOD REUNION THERE ON STAGE WITH THIS PERSON AND THEIR
FAMILY.
AND I FOUND AFTER MY DAD PASSED AND WENT THROUGH ALL HIS
STUFF, HE STILL HAD THE LETTERS FROM THE PEOPLE THANKING
HIM SO MUCH BRINGING THEM DOWN TO SEE THEIR FAMILY.
I FOUND OUT A LOT MORE ABOUT MY DAD AFTER HE PASSED AWAY
FROM PEOPLE THAT I NEVER KNOWN BEFORE THAT TOLD ME STORIES
ABOUT -- IS TONY GARCIA YOUR DAD WITH THE USO?
YEAH.
AND THEY WOULD TELL ME ABOUT.
THEY WERE NEW IN TOWN.
A LADY CAME WITH HER DAUGHTER, WHO IS GROWN WOMAN NOW.
SHE SAID, WHEN I CAME INTO TOWN, I WAS A SINGLE MOM, AND I HAD
MY LITTLE DAUGHTER HERE, AND THEY TOLD US TO GO SEE YOUR DAD.
YOUR DAD HELPED ME GET ON MY FEET AND FIND A JOB.
I NEVER FORGOT THAT.
SHE WAS AT -- I MET HER, BECAUSE I WAS AT -- OUR AGENCIES
HAD A PUBLIC HEARING, AND SHE WAS THERE TO SPEAK ON SOME
TOPIC, AND SHE WAITED FOR THE WHOLE THING IS OVER JUST TO ASK
ME THAT QUESTION.
THAT IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE, BUT COUNTLESS OTHER INCIDENTS THAT
I HAD MEET WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT TOLD ME STUFF THAT I NEVER
KNEW MY DAD HAD DONE.
I KNEW HE WAS A FRIEND TO ALL.
AND HE NEVER TURNED DOWN TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE.
HE WAS JUST A SPECIAL GUY.
AND -- I MISS HIM.
02:27:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I?
MAY I SHOW -- YOU SENT ME SOME PICTURE.
CAN I SHOW IT ON THE WOLF OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, IF I
MAY.
02:27:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE WOLF.
02:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAVE TO HOWL.
02:27:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO HEAR A HOWL.
02:27:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF NEAT ONES -- WE MET NINE AND A HALF
YEARS AGO.
AND TONY -- HE HAS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HIS DAD, AND I GOT TO
DO -- I NEVER MET LIKE CHARLIE DID, I NEVER GOT TO KNOW
OBVIOUSLY HIS DAD, BUT HE WAS AN AMAZING GUY, AN AMAZING GUY.
NEAT PICTURES HERE.
IS THIS SEEN UP HERE?
THIS IS TONY GARCIA THERE WITH SENATOR CLAUDE PEPPER,
CONGRESSMAN LATER TOO.
HE WAS A BIG NEW DEAL DEMOCRATIC SENATOR IN FLORIDA.
02:28:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GREAT DEFENDER OF SOCIAL JUSTICE.
02:28:08PM >> MY MOM.
02:28:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
EXCUSE ME, MRS. GARCIA.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE ONE, TONY GARCIA WITH HIS SON LOOKING AT
JIMMY STEWART, NOT JUST ONE OF GREATEST ACTOR WHO EVER LIVED
BUT A BRIGADIER GENERAL AND STEPFATHER WHOSE STEPSON WOULD
DIE IN VIETNAM.
THIS IS NEAT ONE.
YOUR MOTHER, FATHER AND CONGRESSMAN SAM GIBBONS, 34
YEARS, D-DAY VETERANS, WORLD WAR II VETERAN.
GREATEST AMERICAN HERO.
YOUR FATHER AND GRANDPARENTS.
DURING WORLD WAR II, CORRECT?
02:28:46PM >> 1942.
02:28:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO WOW, LOOK AT THAT.
LOU PINIELLA.
THIS IS NEAT.
JUST SHOWING WHAT A MAN-ABOUT-TOWN HE WAS.
MORE WITH JIMMY STEWART.
YOU ALL KNOW ME, I LOVE JIMMY STEWART.
THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE KNOW.
AND THE LATE JUDGE ALVAREZ AND CHARLIE MIRANDA.
OUR MAIN MAN.
02:29:11PM >> HELL OF A NIGHT.
02:29:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT A NIGHT.
HERE.
E.J. SALCINES.
GOVERNOR MARTINEZ.
MANY OTHERS.
TONY GARCIA.
THEN, THIS IS A GREAT ONE.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MICKEY MANTLE.
THAT IS KIND OF COOL.
JUST SOME PICTURES AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT IS -- YOU KNOW, IT IS AN HONOR TO DO THIS, TONY.
YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT GUY.
YOU ARE ALWAYS A GREAT PERSON.
02:29:38PM >> THANK YOU.
LOVE YOU BUDDY.
THANK YOU.
02:29:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND THEN
MIRANDA.
02:29:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I NEVER MET YOUR FATHER, BUT I ALWAYS
HEARD ABOUT YOUR DAD.
AND I WOULD SEE YOUR DAD AT EVENTS WHEN I WAS A KID.
I WAS TOO SCARED TO APPROACH HIM.
I REMEMBER WHEN I MET MAYOR GRECO 30 YEARS AGO AND FERNANDO
NORIEGA.
I HAVE A PICTURE WHERE MARY ALVAREZ, FORMER CITY COUNCIL
MEMBER, AND THE MAYOR.
YOUR DAD WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
MY FRIEND, DOMINIC, WHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, TOLD ME
STORY ABOUT YOUR DAD.
HE SAID GROWING UP IN TAMPA IN THE '80s AND THE '90s AND
WHATEVER, IF YOU WANTED ANYTHING DONE IN HIS CIRCLE, HE SAID
YOU WOULD GO THREE: MARCELLO MACEO, VICTOR DEMAYO SR., AND
TONY GARCIA.
THAT'S IT, MOVERS AND SHAKERS OF THE TIME.
I SAT WITH YOU MANY, MANY TIMES AND YOU TOLD ME STORIES.
COOLEST STORY YOU TOLD ME, ONE OF MANY WAS, AND, CORRECT ME
IF I'M WRONG, SUPER BOWL 84 OR SUPER BOWL 1991.
BOB HOPE CALLS YOUR DAD UP OR SHOWS UP TO THE HOUSE IN THE
ROLLS-ROYCE AND SAYS, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SUPER BOWL?
PICKS UP YOUR DAD AND TAKES HIM TO TAMPA STADIUM.
THIS IS BOB HOPE.
GO TO THE SECURITY GATE, AND THE SECURITY IS LIKE DO YOU HAVE
A TICKET OR PASS?
THE WINDOW ROLLS DOWN, MR. HOPE.
COME ON, THE GATES GO UP, AND THEY JUST WALK INTO IT, YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
AND BOB HOPE -- WE TALK OF JIMMY STEWART BEING ONE OF
GREATEST AMERICANS AND GREATEST AMERICAN ACTORS, BOB HOPE
WAS BOB HOPE.
HE PASSED AWAY WHEN YOUR DAD DIED, 2003 AND 2004.
BOB HOPE.
AND MARTIN SHELBY WILL RECOGNIZE THE FRIENDSHIP, AND YOU SHOW
ME STUFF.
AND A REGULAR ON THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW.
THAT WORLD WAR II GENERATION, GREATEST GENERATION THAT WE
WILL NEVER HAVE AGAIN.
LIKE THAT WE ARE OF MY GRANDPARENTS.
LIKE TONY GARCIA, HIS PHOTO IS AT THE WALL AT THE WEST TAMPA
SANDWICH SHOP.
THAT A BIG DEAL.
BUT GROWING UP, HE WAS ONE OF THE NAMES YOU ALWAYS HEARD.
I REMEMBER OPENING LA GACETA WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, I WAS IN
COLLEGE, AND A WHOLE WRITE-UP LIKE VICTOR DeMAYO, SR.
AND MARCELO MACEO, THE GIANTS OF TIME THAT MADE TAMPA, TAMPA.
THIS WAS A VERY STRONG TOKEN OF APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING.
I LEARNED MORE TODAY WHAT HE DID WITH THE SOLDIERS IN
THE USO AND WHATNOT.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS.
SO MORE PEOPLE CAN SEE YOUR DAD'S NAME AND ASK AND LEARN
ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A GREAT MAN.
SO I AM GOOD WITH THIS.
02:32:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG, DO YOU KNOW WHO BOB
HOPE IS?
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY.
[LAUGHTER]
02:32:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD HAVE SAID DO YOU KNOW WHO BOB HOPE
WAS.
02:32:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU KNOW WHO ED SULLIVAN IS?
[LAUGHTER]
THAT IS SOMETHING --
02:32:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVER HEARD OF BEATLES?
02:33:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SELF-DEPRECIATING HUMOR.
02:33:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE REASON FOR THIS AND VERY SIMPLE IN MY
MIND.
WE WERE WHAT WE WERE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE HAD.
NO CELL PHONES.
NO TVS TO SPEAK OF.
NO MASS COMMUNICATION AND EVERYBODY TALKED TO EACH OTHER.
NOW YOU ARE USING THE ART OF TALKING TO EACH OTHER EYE TO
EYE.
ALL ON THE PHONE.
YOU DIAL.
YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.
I DID AT LEAST 15 CALLS -- I BETCHA SOMEBODY WE DON'T KNOW
TRYING TO SELL US SOMETHING FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER.
BRING YOUR CAR IN FOR SERVICE, WHATEVER IT IS.
I WANT TO BUY YOUR LAND.
I HAVE TWO THINGS I CAN SELL YOU, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SOCIETY WE LIVE IN ARE CREATED OUR OWN PROBLEM WHERE WE DON'T
KNOW TO WE ARE TALKING TO.
IN THOSE DAYS, YOU HAD TO BE WHO YOU HAD TO BE, AND YOU HAD TO
MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN BY TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY AND YOUR
FATHER DID THAT WITH 110%.
SO IS MARCELO MACEO, AND ALL OF THEM.
100 OF THEM I CAN NAME YOU NOW.
WE DID THIS BY COMMUNICATION, NOT BY PHONE BY GOING AND
KNOCK ON DOORS AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
THEY CALLED A MEETING EVERYBODY SHOWED UP.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO GO.
I WILL BE HONEST TO YOU.
THIS SOCIETY LOOK SICK.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE.
ALL WE KNOW HOW TO YOU DO IS TALK TO PEOPLE NOW THAT YOU
DON'T KNOW BY PHONE, TEXT OR WHATEVER.
THERE WAS NO E-MAIL.
THERE WAS NO COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM.
NOT ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN BUY $100 WORTH OF THIS I THINK, AND
EVERYBODY KNOWS IN TEN MINUTE.
HOW AI, PEOPLE WILL SPEAK TO EACH OTHER LESS AND LESS.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
WE FORGOT TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.
I GUARANTEE YOU THAT 50% IN TAMPA DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF
THE NEIGHBORS TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT.
AND YOU GET 100% OF THEM ONLY COME IN AND GO RIGHT IN THE
DOOR.
BEFORE, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION.
NOTHING.
YOU HAD TO STAY OUTSIDE.
SO YOU GET TO MEET PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DROVE AROUND KIDS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOCIETY, THEY CHANGE.
YOU TALK OF MENTAL PROBLEMS, BUT WE ARE CREATE OUR OWN PROBLEMS.
ENVIRONMENTALLY, NOT SPEAKING TO EACH OTHER.
COMING TO A HEAD.
COMING IN AMERICA -- NOT ONLY IN AMERICA, BUT THE WHOLE
WORLD.
WE ARE SO FAR ADVANCED, WE DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE.
YOUR FATHER WAS A LEADER OF KNOWING HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND
WALK WITH PEOPLE.
02:35:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING?
02:35:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
THANK YOU FOR KEEPING YOUR DAD'S STORY AS I LIFE.
UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT GOING TO BE ON COUNCIL ONE DAY WHEN
WE NAME SOMETHING AFTER YOU, BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
IT MAKES ME THINK -- ALL THESE STORIES.
NOT JUST NOSTALGIA.
IN THE '80s, TAMPA IN SOME WAYS WAS AT ITS PEAK.
MORE INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS THAN WE DID AT LEAST BY 2010.
BECAUSE WE LOST A BUNCH THEN.
WE HAD ONE OF THE BEST AIRPORTS IN THE WORLD.
WE HAD MORE INTERNATIONAL BANKS THAN WE DO NOW.
AND TAMPA WAS SMALLER IN SIZE -- WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY
BUILDINGS, BUT THE LEADERS IN TAMPA WERE IMPORTANT ON A
NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SCALE.
AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT STYLE LEADERSHIP BACK THEN.
DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS WHERE TAMPA WOULD GO.
THE FACT THAT YOUR DAD WAS KNOWN BY SOME OF THE GREATEST
STARS.
TAMPA IS ALWAYS TRYING TO BE A BIG CITY, BUT WE REALLY WERE
IN '80s.
IN THE '80s WE WERE WELL KNOWN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
YOUR DAD WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS.
I WISH -- WE OUGHT TO HAVE COFFEE.
I WISH YOU AND THE OTHER KIDS OF GENERATION WILL GET
TOGETHER AND WRITE A BOOK, LIKE CHARLIE WAS KIND OF REFERRING
TO, WHAT WAS LEADERSHIP STYLE BACK THEN?
THEY WEREN'T LIMITED BY PEOPLE WERE SAYING NOT A GREAT CITY
OR THIS AND THAT.
THEY JUST DID IT.
THE FACT THAT HE NEW BOB HOPE AND HE WENT OUT A MET PEOPL
A LOT OF THEM DID.
HUGE EXPECTATIONS FOR TAMPA, BIGGER THAN WE HAVE THEM NOW.
I WISH THERE WAS SOME WAYS TO CAPTURE THAT BECAUSE THE
ESSENCE OF TAMPA'S CULTURE, WHEN THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT IS
CHANGING AROUND US, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE TOUCH
WITH THAT CULTURE.
ANOTHER NOT -- EXAMPLE NOT FROM THE LATIN COMMUNITY BUT
JERRY DIVERS, THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF ONE OF THE BANKS IN
TAMPA.
WE HANDWRITE PERSONAL LETTERS TO PEOPLE AFTER HE MET THEM.
HE HAD THIS STYLE OF LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK SOME OF THIS CULTURE EXISTS IN BACK ROOMS AND
STILL FOLKS -- YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE E.J. GOES, FOR EXAMPLE.
A LUNCH AND DINNER AND TEN PEOPLE AND SHARING STORIES.
WE NEED TO CAPTURE THE STORY AND TEACH THE NEW GENERATION.
SO MANY NEW KIDS.
MY KIDS WERE BORN HERE BUT ARE NOT EXPOSED TO THAT CULTURE.
HOW DO WE PASS ON HOW GREAT TAMPA WAS AND THE LEADERSHIP
STYLE BEFORE AND HOW CAN THAT LEAD US INTO THE FUTURE.
02:38:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
02:38:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUPLE OF THINGS I FORGOT.
WELL, FIRST, I HUNG OUT A LOT WITH MY GRANDMOTHER,
WORLD WAR II GENERATION AND YOUR DAD'S GENERATION.
A LOT OF WHAT I LEARN AND THE PERSON I AM TODAY IS BECAUSE
OF THAT GENERATION.
AS YOU NOTICE, I AM WEARING THIS BEAUTIFUL FLAG PIN.
THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TAMPA FLAG.
I WEAR DIFFERENT PINS AND DIFFERENT CUFFLINGS.
I AM NOT WEARING CUFFLINGS TODAY, BUT A PAIR OF CITY OF
TAMPA SEAL.
WERE THEY YOURS OR YOUR DAD'S?
02:38:48PM >> MY DAD'S.
02:38:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHEN I WEAR THEM.
I AM NOT WEARING THEM TODAY, BUT A LITTLE PIECE OF YOUR DAD
IS HERE.
PEOPLE LOVE CUFFLINGS.
I THINK I HAVE A TIE BAR.
OTHER CITY OF TAMPA SEAL ITEMS.
BUT THEY ARE EVEN MORE SPECIAL, NOT BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY
BUT IT BELONGED TO YOUR DAD AND YOUR DAD DEDICATED HIS
WHOLE LIFE TO -- THE STORY OF YOUR FATHER IS HELPING OTHER
PEOPLE.
02:39:16PM >> A POINT, IF I MAY INTERJECT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR
COMMENTS BECAUSE MY FATHER WAS BORN IN WEST TAMPA ON ARMENIA.
HE WAS A CHILD OF WEST TAMPA.
HE WAS A CHILD OF THE DEPRESSION.
AND HIS FAMILY WAS VERY POOR.
MY GRANDMOTHER WAS FROM KEY WEST.
AND MY GRANDFATHER MIGRATED FROM CUBA AND MET HER THERE AND
MOVED HERE BECAUSE HE WAS A TOBACCO MAKER SO THIS IS WHERE
THE LIVING WAS.
IT'S KIND OF IRONIC WHEN THEY ASK ME OF THE LOCATION OF
WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT THIS STREET NAMING.
THE CENTRO -- MY DAD TOLD ME A STORY WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE
BOY, WE GO -- YOU COULD FOR A NICKEL TO SPEND THE DAY, YOU
KNOW, WATCHING MOVIES AND GETTING POPCORN AND STUFF AT THE
CENTRO BECAUSE A THEATRE AT THE TIME.
AND HE TOLD ME A STORY A MAN -- HE WAS STANDING OUTSIDE.
HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO GO IN THERE.
IT WAS POOR.
WOULD HEAT HARD CUBAN BREAD AND COLD CUBAN COFFEE AT TIMES.
HE TOLD ME THIS STORY.
BUT THIS MAN -- WELL-TO-DO MAN, HE SAID -- SAW MY DAD AND
HE IS LIKE -- HE GAVE MY DAD A QUARTER AND SAID GO IN AND
HAVE A GREAT TIME.
SO HE TOOK THE QUARTER, AND HE WAITED UNTIL THE MAN LEFT,
AND THEN HE RAN HOME WHICH WAS ABOUT EIGHT BLOCKS TO THE
SOUTH OF THERE.,
BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GIVE THE QUARTER TO HIS FAMILY, BECAUSE
HE KNEW THEY NEED IT MORE THAN HE NEED IT TO SPEND IT AT THE
THEATRE THAT DAY.
THAT IS WHAT IT WAS LIKE BACK IN THE DAY.
HE NEVER FORGOT THAT.
HE NEVER FORGOT THE POVERTY ASPECT OF IT.
FOR HIM AND HIS BROTHERS AND SISTER TO RISE OUT OF THAT TO
BECOME THE MAN THAT HE DID IS REALLY THE TRUE AMERICAN STORY
AND I NEVER CEASED TO HEAR THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
YOU MENTION MARCELO MACEO.
HE AND MY DAD WERE GOOD FRIENDS.
THEY PLAYED BASEBALL TOGETHER IN CASCADIAN PARK.
THEY WERE BOTH VERY GOOD BASEBALL PLAYERS AND ROSE IN THE
RANKS.
THEN FIESTA.
THEY WERE TOGETHER ON THE BOARD THERE.
AND THE DeMAYOS.
AND I DO -- BILL, I DO KEEP TRACK OF THE CHILDREN OF THOSE
TWO PEOPLE THAT I MENTIONED, FAR IN LINE, MARLENE MACEO
AND VIC DeMAYO JR. THAT I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH.
YOU KEEP IN TOUCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST
THEY ARE JUST EXTENSIONS OF OUR FATHERS.
ONE MORE THING, SHIRLEY WAS ACTUALLY THERE THE DAY THEY
DEDICATED THE CENTRO ESPANOL.
SO SHE REMEMBERS DAD.
BECAUSE DAD WAS ON THE URBAN LEAGUE.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE THERE.
THAT PREDATES EVEN COMING HERE.
SHE KNEW DAD TOO.
02:42:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU, TONY, FOR COMING OUT.
02:42:37PM >> THANK YOU.
02:42:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED FROM US TODAY.
A PRESENTATION.
02:42:42PM >>MALLORY LaGASSE:
IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL
POSTING DATES BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DID --
02:42:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR YOU TODAY?
TO MOVE FORWARD?
02:42:57PM >>MALLORY LaGASSE:
YES, I THOUGHT SO.
02:42:57PM >> MARCH 26 OR AFTER.
02:43:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I -- MAY I.
I MOTION FOR THIS ITEM TO COME BACK TO US ON MARCH 26 FOR
TONY GARCIA, JR.
02:43:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:43:15PM >> POSTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JANUARY 23 THROUGH MONDAY
FEBRUARY 9.
02:43:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO?
02:43:24PM >>MALLORY LaGASSE:
ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S REAL ESTATE PAGE.
FIND A LINK FOR HONORARY NAMING.
02:43:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
02:43:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU FOR THE MEMORIES.
02:43:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.
I WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN YOUR FATHER.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM.
WE COMPLETED OUR AGENDA.
WELL, WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS.
YEP.
SO NEW BUSINESS.
START FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:43:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT, BUT IN THE
LAST CITY COUNCIL MEET TWO WEEKS AGO, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, WE TALKED OF THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
AND WE ASKED STAFF A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
AND THEY GAVE VERY DIRECT ANSWERS.
ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DAYS LATER -- ESSENCE FOR ME WAS WE HEARD
FROM THEM.
PALMA CEIA PINES WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED UNTIL 2032 OR 2033.
A FEW DAYS LATER, THE -- THE CONSULTANT THAT IS WORKING ON
THE PROJECT MET WITH A SMALL GROUP IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND
PRESENTED SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAD
BEEN PRESENTED.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, A SMALL GROUP OF THE MAYOR'S
STAFF -- HEARD EVEN THE MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, MET
WITH A SMALL GROUP IN PALMA CEIA PINES THEN THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE INVITED MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS -- THE MAJORITY
OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT INVITED, WHICH IS MOST OF THE
PEOPLE IN BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS.
JOSH CASIO AND NEXT DOOR THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON
THE PROJECT TO FULLY VET IT FEBRUARY 29 AT 9 A.M.
THAT ITEM IS NOT ON AGENDA FOR JANUARY 29.
WHAT IS ON AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION OF THE CIP UPDATE, AND THEY
USUALLY PRESENT GREAT EIGHT.
I THINK THAT HAVING A BIG DISCUSSION OF THAT PROJECT ON THAT
DAY WITH A FULL AGENDA IS NOT GOING TO BE FAIR TO THE PEOPLE
INVOLVED, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM
IT IS NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC -- THE BROADER PUBLIC.
SINCE THE MAYOR AND THOSE STROKES MET WITH THOSE TWO
NEIGHBORS.
FLOODED WITH E-MAIL, AND ALSO A VIDEO.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST.
BUT A CAMPAIGN GOING TO SELL US ON THIS PROJECT.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS STEP BACK AND HAVE A ROBUST, HONEST
CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
FACT THAT THE INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO US IS COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO SMALL GROUPS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD IS DISTURBING TO ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LARGER WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
LOOKS LIKE THE SOONEST ON A WORKSHOP IS MARCH -- THE MARCH
WORKSHOP.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT THIS AS A STAND-ALONE ITEM ON
MARCH WORKSHOP.
LET STAFF AND CONSULTANTS PRESENT WHATEVER THEY WANT AND
THAT WAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE RUSHED.
AND NOT A FULL AGENDA AND ADVERTISED AS A SEPARATE
DISCUSSION.
MY MOTION WOULD BE TO -- TO REMOVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT
FROM THE GREAT EIGHT DISCUSSION ON JANUARY 29, AND INSTEAD HAVE
A FULL PRESENTATION AGENDA ITEM IN THE MARCH WORKSHOP ON THE
SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
02:46:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
02:46:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
02:46:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RECHECK THE DATE.
02:46:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT THE 29th, 26th.
02:46:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
REGULAR SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL.
02:46:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, A WORKSHOP.
I WILL SPEAK TO THAT, MR. SHELBY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME.
02:46:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:47:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FEBRUARY 26 -- SORRY, I WAS LOOKING AT
FEBRUARY WITH JANUARY 29.
WE ALREADY ONLY HAVE FIVE ITEMS, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,
MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE BRIEFING, BUT I GOT A BRIEFING
THAT SAID THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO IS INSTEAD OF
THE GREAT EIGHT, THEY WILL FOCUS ON THIS ONE ITEM.
AND THAT THEY ARE CHANGING THE TITLE IN THE -- IN THE
DESCRIPTION.
AND -- OR -- SO, YEAH, THAT'S -- THAT IS APPARENTLY OUR
CHAIR HAS A MOTION TO DO JUST THAT.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ROOM ON THIS AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE CAN'T
JUST KEEP KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.
I KNOW WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. AND I THINK
NEXT WEEK ON JANUARY 29 IS TIME TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION.
02:47:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I RESPOND TO IS THAT?
02:47:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I AM NOT FOLLOWING GO FORWARD TO
FEBRUARY OR MARCH, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS -- WE
JUST NEED TO HEAR IT.
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WE NEED TO --
02:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON.
WE WILL DO ROUNDS, AND YOU GO NEXT.
02:48:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T SUPPORT MOVING IT.
02:48:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM ONLY SAYING THAT WATER DOES NOT FLOW
NORTH.
IT ONLY FLOWS SOUTH.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IF THIS HERE, AND YOU HAVE OF THE
PINES HERE AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODS FIRST AND COMES DOWN.
THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS WATER AND THAT WATER BECAUSE
FLOW SOUTH.
I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT WILL BE 100% FIXABLE, BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW WHAT IS COMING IN FIVE YEARS OR TEN DAYS OR TWO
YEARS FROM NOW.
IF THE HURRICANE SITS OUT THERE FOR FOUR DAYS, NOTHING
WORKS.
THAT FIXES THAT.
IT WILL NOT WORK TO DO WHAT IT DID TO NEW ORLEANS AND OTHER
CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
I AM NOT HERE TO SAY THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID OR DO I CARE WHAT
THEY HAVE DONE.
I ONLY CARE WHAT I HAVE SEEN WITH MY EYES AND WALKING
THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE.
AND I AM LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
IT HAS GOT TO END SOME TIME BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON STARTS.
SO WE CAN START DOING SOMETHING TO ALLEVIATE NOT ONLY HERE
BUT OTHER PROJECTS WILL COME THE SAME WAY.
ANYWHERE YOU GO WITH THE PROJECT YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS
BECAUSE ONE SIDE OR OTHER SIDE.
IT WILL SOLVE SOMETHING.
SOMETHING ELSE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WIL SAY WHAT ABOUT ME.
AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I AM -- I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE SO I CAN AVOID A PROBLEM LATER ON IN HALF.
WHAT I AM HEARING NOW DOESN'T MATTER.
NOT THAT I AM GOING ANYWHERE.
LET ME FIX THAT.
02:49:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE.
I HOPE YOU HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER.
02:49:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DO HAVE AN AIR CONDITIONER.
I CAN TAKE HEAT.
I CAN TAKE HEAT.
WHAT I AM SAYING IS, IT HAS GOT TO END SOME TIME.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY TALKED TO OR KNOW ANYTHING.
ALL I KNOW WHAT WE VOTED ON.
YOU CAN CHANGE THE VOTE IF YOU LIKE, BECAUSE DOESN'T BOTHER ME
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:50:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
02:50:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING IT OUT OF GREAT EIGHT,
AND WHATEVER THAT ISSUE THAT IS, THAT IS ONE THING.
IF COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WANT TO DO -- HAVE IT UNDER A
WORKSHOP.
I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
YOU OUGHT TO BE GIVEN SPACE FOR THAT AND TIME AND ALL THAT.
I DON'T SEE A CHALLENGE WITH THAT.
MY ONLY SUGGESTION WITH THE WORKSHOP IS WE LIMIT TIME ON IT
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE FOR -- OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN
GREAT DEFERENCE FOR THE ISSUE AND SO FORTH FOR AN AMOUNT OF
TIME.
A WORKSHOP WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS NOT TO SLOW THIS
DOWN BUT FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
02:50:58PM >> I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE AT THE EXPENSE OF PRECEDENCE WE SET
AGENDA ITEM.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD COMPROMISE, IN MY OPINION.
02:51:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SPEAK AND THEN LET YOU GO.
TWO THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
I GOT THAT BRIEFING AS WELL.
AND IF THIS MOTION FAILS, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO
RENAME THAT WORKSHOP AGENDA THAT IS ON THE JANUARY 29 FROM
THE BIANNUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD
PRESENTATION AND BIANNUAL AND PROVIDES CLARITY FOR PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND.
RIGHT NOW ,IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT IT IS SOUTH HOWARD.
THAT IS ONE AND THAT EVENING SESSION, WE WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT THAT DURING THE WORKSHOP.
THAT EVENING SESSION IS RELATIVELY OPEN.
THREE AB CASES AND A COUPLE OF COMP PLAN APPLICATION, AND ONE
OF THEM MAY BE CONTINUED.
TO MOVE THE REAPPORTIONMENT OF THE CAPITAL TO THAT
EVENING SO WE WILL HAVE -- IT WILL BASICALLY BE A DAY OF
SOUTH HOWARD.
WORKSHOP DURING THE DAY ON THE 29th AND AFTERNOON AND
EVENING SESSION.
IF THIS MOTION FAILS, THAT WILL BE THE PLAN OF ACTION.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:52:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, STAFF HAS NOT NOTIFIED
ME AT ALL AND NOT SET UP A MEETING.
I PRESUME THAT -- THAT YOU DON'T APPROVE -- THAT YOU DON'T
APPROVE OF THIS PROJECT AS IS.
AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT.
THE CITY HAS TO HAVE THE HONEST DIALOGUE WITH THE PUBLIC.
NOT CHERRY PICK -- IF YOU MISS WITH 20 PEOPLE, TEN IN EACH
NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL PLOY.
NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION.
YOU NEED TO ROBUSTLY TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BE HONEST
WITH THEM.
FACT THAT JUST FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE STAFF ANSWERED QUESTIONS
THAT ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE FROM WHAT THEY ARE NOW
PRIVATELY.
I CLEARLY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT
PARKLAND ESTATES WILL BE PROTECTED?
AND IT IS 2030.
I DON'T THINK THAT NUMBER HAS CHANGED.
BUT THEN THEY -- PALMA CEIA PINES IN PHASE TWO THAT WON'T BE
COMPLETED TILL 2073.
AND SINCE THAT MEETING, THEY CHANGED THE MAP AND CREATED A VIDEO
PROBLEMS THAT IS NOT AN HONEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC.
IT IS TELLING PEOPLE ON THE 29th AND PEOPLE GO TO THE CALENDAR
AND LOOK AND IT IS NOT ON THERE.
I DID NOT KNOW UNTIL COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THAT THE STAFF
IS PLANNING TO CHANGE THE NAME, BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW EITHER.
BETTER THING WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO IDEALLY HAVE AN HONEST
DIALOGUE WITH THE PUBLIC.
GO MEET WITH PARKLAND ESTATES.
NOT JUST TEN PEOPLE BUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEET WITH
THE PEOPLE OF PALMA CEIA PINES.
NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO SELL THE PUBLIC, BUT SOMETHING WE
NEED TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE ABOUT.
POINT I SAID LAST TIME THAT CHARLIE MENTIONED THAT THE WATER
FLOWS SOUTH.
PALMA CEIA PINES -- THAT THIS A BOWL.
YOU DON'T NEED ONE PIPE, BUT PUT IT IN WHERE IT FLOODS.
WHAT HAPPENS IN PALMA CEIA PINES IS IT IS OVERFLOWING.
AND THE CHALLENGE THAT THE CONSULTANT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN THE
AUTHORITY FOR A ROBUST DECISION IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
IF YOU CREATE A SOLUTION, IT PROTECTS PARKLAND ESTATES.
CONSPIRACY THEORIES BEING PUSHED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION.
YOU LIKE STEAK.
YOU LIKE BERN'S.
MY THING IS, THIS IS MY DISTRICT.
I WANT PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE PROTECTED.
IF WE END UP GOING FORWARD, SO MUCH MISINFORMATION GIVEN TO
THESE FOLKS.
ON KNIGHTS AVENUE, THERE ARE FIVE HOUSES.
IN 1988, THE CITY OF SAID THEY COULDN'T BUILD BECAUSE IT WAS
IN A RETENTION POND, BUILDING IN A LOW LEVEL AREA.
IF WE MOVE FORWARD, THIS PROJECT WOULDN'T DESIGNING IT TO
OPTIMALLY PREVENT FLOODING, I THINK WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS
GET EVERYBODY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO SIGN AFFIDAVITS SAYING
THEY UNDERSTAND THEY WILL NOT BE PROTECTED UNTIL AT LEAST
20s -- LEAST 2030.
I WON'T BE HERE ON CITY COUNCIL.
BUT YOU GUYS WILL GET COMPLAINTS THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL'S FAULT.
YOU DIDN'T PREVENT OUR FLOODING.
WE KNOW IT WON'T PROTECT THEM UNTIL 2030.
WHY WOULDN'T WE COME UP WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS THING HAS BEEN POLITICIZED.
02:56:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE FOCUS BACK DOWN -- YOUR MOTION WAS
TO MOVE --
02:56:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY POINT UNTIL RIGHT NOW I DIDN'T KNOW THEY
WERE GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME.
PUBLIC DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
NOT ENOUGH NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC.
I DON'T CARE IF WE DO IT FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
PUBLIC NEEDS TO IT BE NOTICED AND NOT A SALES JOB --
02:56:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
ONE THING -- TWO ISSUES HERE.
ONE ISSUE OF THE 29th WORKSHOP IS PUBLIC NOTICE.
02:56:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE GREAT EIGHT.
WHAT YOU SUGGESTED KEEPING THE GREAT EIGHT, BUT ALSO CALLIN
IT OUTH HOWARD
HAVING ALL OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON THE SAME DAY WILL HAVE OF
A LONG TIME.
I AM TALKING OF MOVING TO THE DAY WE HAVE LESS.
02:56:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:56:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE REST OF THE
GREAT EIGHT WILL BE A WRITTEN REPORT, AND IF WE HAVE
QUESTIONS, WE ARE ALLOWED TO REACH OUT AND ASK ABOUT THEM.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.
THEY ARE JUST REPORTING TO US.
THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING FOR US.
THE PUBLIC CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ROBUST PUBLIC INFORMATION.
AFTER THEY HAVE REPORT TO US, THEN WE MEET WITH THE PUBLIC
AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF UNDERSTANDING AND ABLE
TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC COULD WATCH.
A GOOD COMPROMISE WILL BE TO HAVE THIS NEXT WEEK.
MAKE SURE -- IT IS GOING TO BE TELEVISED, BUT MAKE SURE THAT
-- THAT IT GETS EDITED DOWN JUST TO THIS PART.
SENT OUT TO THE PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS IN PREPARATION FOR
ANOTHER MEETING.
HOPEFULLY, WHAT I CAN DO BY NEXT WEEK IS SEE IF WE CAN GET A
DATE SET THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO
DIFFERENT PLACES, MAYBE AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS SO
WE CAN DO THIS.
AND THE THING IS, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, THEN IT WILL BE
2031 BEFORE THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE HELPED, AND LAST YEAR IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN 2029.
I PERSONALLY CAN'T LET IT GO ANY FURTHER.
I CAN'T CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE'S HEARTBREAK AND HAVE
THEM CONTINUE TO -- TO -- TO DISCUSS THEIR TRAUMA OVER AND
OVER AGAIN.
BY DON'T THINK THAT IS FAIR TO PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO MAKE -- I -- I THINK WE ARE READY TO LISTEN TO
WHAT IS COMING FORWARD.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS.
I AM NOT WILLING TO KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD ANY LONGER.
02:58:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE NEXT BIG DECISION POINT WE HAVE IS
SEPTEMBER.
AND SO WHETHER OR NOT DELAYING IT AT ALL BY PUTTING IT IN
MARCH.
02:58:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS PART OF GREAT EIGHT.
WE ARE GETTING A DESCRIPTION ABOUT THIS.
WE ARE GETTING AN UPDATE.
WE ARE TALKING OF MOVING MONEY THAT WE HAVE -- THAT WE
DIDN'T HAVE TO USE.
AND THAT IS JUST SITTING THERE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE, AND A
GREAT PROJECT TO MOVE IT TO.
IF WE DON'T USE IT FOR THIS PROJECT.
IF THE PROJECT GETS CANCELLED, WE CAN MOVE THE PROJECT
AGAIN.
I AM JUST SAYING THAT NEXT WEEK IS -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT
AND THEN DO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
I -- I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
YOU WANT TO HEAR IT.
I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING IT.
I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY LONGER.
02:59:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND TO THAT HEARING.
02:59:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH THE SECOND.
02:59:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE LAST THING?
THE DAY OF THE STORM, I WAS THE FIRST PERSON FROM THE CITY
TO DRIVE INTO PALMA CEIA PINES.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE YOU SEE HERE, I WALKED IN THEIR HOUSES,
TOOK TWO OF THEM GOT IN MY CAR AND DROVE ME AROUND THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOWED ME THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
SINCE THEN LOOKING AT DOCUMENTS GOING BACK TO THE 1980s, AND
THE CITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE LET THOSE HOUSES BE BUILT.
NOT THAT FLOOD ZONE X, BUT THEY ARE THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL,
AND THE CITY SHOULD HAVE PUT A RETENTION POND THERE.
TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CITY SAID WE ARE NOT DOING IN PALMA CEIA
PINES UNTIL AFTER 2030.
WHAT THEY ARE TELLING PEOPLE NOW, PUT A PIPE INSIDE ONE OF
THE RETENTION PONDS.
RETENTION POND IS ABOVE THE GRADE.
PROBLEM IS THAT IT IS CHANGING ALL THE TIME.
AND THERE ARE POLITICS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING
THIS A POLITICAL THING.
A GUY IN PARKLAND ESTATES WHO IS MAKING THIS POLITICAL.
HE IS BEING POLITICAL AND BASED ON SCIENCE.
03:00:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I WOULD ARGUE IS THAT THEY HEARD YOU SO
THEY DECIDED TO ADD A PIPE TO HELP.
I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK IT IS -- IT IS --
03:00:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING
PEOPLE.
03:00:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOLLARS ARE WHAT WE ARE SEEING ANYWAY.
I APOLOGIZE.
03:00:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:00:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST BRIEFLY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WERE
TO IN ADDITION TO THAT ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IN MARCH, I
WILL BE GLAD TO SECOND THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT REPLACEMENT OF THIS.
YOU FEEL PASSIONATE AND WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AS LONG AS THERE IS A MODERATE TIME LIMITATION.
I AM FINE WITH THAT.
IN VOTING AGAINST THIS, ANOTHER PATHWAY THAT I THINK GIVES
YOU A LOT FOR WHAT YOU WANT FOR THIS, IN MY OPINION.
I WILL THROW THAT OUT AS A BRIDGE.
03:01:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:01:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE GREAT EIGHT, BECAUSE
UNTIL NOW, I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO CHANGE
THE NAME OF IT.
PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE AN IDEA.
WE WERE GOING TO MOVE IT TO THE MARCH WORKSHOP.
03:01:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T HAVE MARCH WORKSHOP.
03:01:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO OR THREE THINGS I AM WILLING TO MOVE TO
MAYBE IT FOR THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP.
03:01:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO THERE IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, CHAIR CLENDENIN.
03:01:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN AN EFFORT TO FIT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
DO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WILL YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO
KEEP THIS ON THE JANUARY 29 WORKSHOP IN LIGHT OF
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THAT ONLY THE GREAT EIGHT ISSUES
WILL BE SUBMITTED VIA A WRITTEN REPORT, AND WE WILL ONLY
DISCUSS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT SO IT HAS THAT
DEDICATED TIME ON THE 279th.
03:02:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST OF ALL, THE GREAT EIGHT WAS AN
INVENTION BY THE CITY STAFF.
MORE CIP PROJECTS.
AND SHORT-CHANGING THE OTHER SEVEN BY NOT DISCUSSING THEM
AND PLUS ALL THE ONES NOT ON THE GREAT EIGHT.
WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC INSIGHT IN THESE PROJECTS.
I MEAN, I THINK IT IS TOO SHORT OF NOTICE.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES A MONTH MAKE.
03:02:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT MEETING IS ALREADY THERE.
EVERYBODY -- I WATCHED NEXT DOOR.
WATCH FACEBOOK.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE TALKING OF SOUTH HOWARD.
03:02:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S HOW I LEARNED ABOUT IT.
03:02:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE COMMUNICATION PERSON WENT IN THERE.
NOT A BROAD NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:03:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL NOT SUPPORT YOUR AMENDMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE.
03:03:11PM >>CLERK:
TO REMOVE THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT FROM THE GREAT
EIGHT ISSUE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD ON JANUARY 29.
AND SCHEDULE IT FOR THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP.
03:03:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.
03:03:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
[HUMMING JEOPARDY THEME]
03:03:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DON'T SING.
YOU ARE HURTING MY EARS.
03:03:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO
YOU, HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TOMORROW, HAPPY
BIRTHDAY TO YOU,
03:04:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY.
03:04:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S OKAY.
WE PAUSED FOR YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND IT STANDS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S UNAMENDED MOTION.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
03:04:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
03:04:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
03:04:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I AM SORRY.
I AM A LITTLE BIT LOST.
03:04:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO MOVE THE WORKSHOP IS A YES VOTE.
TO CONTINUE IT ON THE 29th IS A NO VOTE.
03:04:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO FEBRUARY.
03:04:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS, VOTE NO.
IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, VOTE YES.
03:04:37PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON THE 29th.
03:04:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WILL BE A NO.
03:04:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY, NO.
03:04:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO. WITH THE ALTERNATE PROPOSED.
03:04:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
03:04:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM FOR LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS.
03:04:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S A NO.
03:04:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
03:04:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
03:05:00PM >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, YOUNG, VIERA, MIRANDA,
AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
03:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
03:05:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, NEXT WEEK WHEN IT COMES UP, I AM GOING
TO SUGGEST THAT THE STAFF CREATE A WAIVER FOR THE NEIGHBORS
WHO FLOODED, THE 20 OR 30 PEOPLE WHO FLOODED.
NOT 200 OR 300 DESPITE WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING.
THE ONES THAT FLOODED BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM, THEY -- THEY
SHOULD -- THEY NEED TO BE GIVEN A WAIVER TO SAY THEY ARE IN
FAVOR OF THIS.
AND THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO PROTECT
THEM UNTIL 2030 AND THEREAFTER.
BECAUSE -- BECAUSE WHAT -- I WON'T BE HERE, BUT YOU GUYS ARE
GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS.
BECAUSE WE KNOW IT IS -- AT MAXIMUM, ONLY HELP IN FOUR
INCHES OF RAIN AND MILTON WAS 11 AND A HALF.
THOSE HOUSES WILL FLOOD FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
WE ALREADY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT.
03:05:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:05:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING ADDITIONAL UNDER NEW BUSINESS,
A FORM 8-B, PERHAPS?
[LAUGHTER]
03:06:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COULD YOU HAVE COME OUT AND ASKED HIM
THAT.
03:06:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO I EARLIER RECUSED MYSELF ON AN ITEM.
AND -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT ITEM IT WAS, ALTHOUGH THE COMPANY
BY WHOM I RETAIN DOES NOT WORK ON THIS MATTER, A CLIENT OF
THE COMPANY MAY BENEFIT AND ABSTAINING TO AVOID AN APPEARANCE
OF A CONFLICT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:06:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:06:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
A COUPLE OF MOTIONS, IF I MAY.
NUMBER ONE, I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOME FOLKS.
AND I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE -- A STAFF IN-PERSON UPDATE.
I MAY CHANGE IT TO WRITTEN IF I FIND SOMETHING OTHERWISE.
MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF TAMPA STARTED AUTISM-SENSITIVE
FRIENDLY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE WHAT KIND OF TRAINING
AT TPD AND TFR FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ON APRIL 2.
03:07:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
03:07:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MANY KNOW THE ORGANIZATION GRAY BOWL RESCUE.
THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL WITH HURRICANE RECOVERY.
I WAS OUT WITH THEM, WITH STEVE MICHELINI'S DAUGHTER,
FRANCESCA.
THEY DO A LOT OF GREAT WORK.
VENEZUELA FROM OSLO, NORWAY.
I WANT TO GIVE THEM A CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
TO GRAY BOWL RESCUE AND SPECIAL FORCES BRIAN STERN FOR THEIR
WORK.
03:07:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
03:07:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ORDINANCES.
NUMBER ONE, FOR A LONG TIME, I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
PLAN FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
ULTIMATELY, IT CAME DOWN -- A LONG STORY BUT IT WAS PRODUCED
BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IT WAS JUST FUNDED UNDER THE
THRESHOLD OF $100,000 AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO
THROUGH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK WITH THE APPLICABLE UNIONS
OF THE PBA OR LOCAL 754.
ON MARCH 5, WANT CITY TO PRESENT AN ORDINACE ON AN ANNUAL
PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN TO BE DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATON
THROUGH ORDINANCE BY THE UNION PRESIDENTS AND THEIR DESIGNEES
TO HAVE THAT AS IS A MATTER OF ORDINANCE OF LAW HERE IN THE
THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR WITH THE
APPLICABLE UNIONS AND WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA TO AS WE GROW AND
SEE OUR NEEDS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE IN THE PUBLIC AND WORKING WITH
THE APPLICABLE ADVOCATES FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
03:09:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS THE ACTION PLAN ON THAT?
03:09:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HAVE STAFF PRESENT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF AN
ORDINANCE ON MARCH 5.
03:09:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:09:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:09:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST FOR REVIEW OF MY MINDS
THAT HAS TO DO A LOT WITH FINANCES, AM I CORRECT?
03:09:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOT NECESSARILY PROPOSALS.
PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WILL SAY OUR CITY NEEDS A NEW FIRE
STATION HERE ON PROJECTION OF FINANCING.
03:09:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE CITY LIKE
MIGHT HAPPEN WITH THIS SENATE BILL FLOATING AROUND WITH AD
VALOREM TAXATIONS AND WHATEVER IT IS, WE NEED TO FIND NEW MONEY.
I AM ALL FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE TO WARN A SIDE TO IT IF
SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE FUNDING, WE MAY HAVE PLAN AND MAY
NOT HAVE THE MONEY.
I AM TELLING YOU I AM FOR IT, BUT WHAT IS COMING COULD COME.
03:10:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM OKAY WITH THE FEASIBILITY START.
03:10:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, FOR BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
JUST LIKE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
03:10:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I VOTED FOR THE PLAN, YES.
03:10:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
03:10:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LAST, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING HAVING
A CITY OF TAMPA VETERANS HAVING AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE HAD A WOMAN COME FROM THE ASIAN PACIFIC ADVISORY
COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH CITY LEGAL AS WELL AS MR.
SHELBY, MY OFFICE, AND OTHERS.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH ADMINISTRATION REPRESENTATIVES AND
MEMBERS OF THE VETERAN COMMUNITY OF SUCH A COMMITTEE, AND
THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST.
THEREFORE, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TO SORT OF GET THIS THING
MOVING.
GUYS, MY VISION IS THAT WILL COME BACK -- IF WE PASS ON
APRIL 16, EXCUSE ME, WE GET TO MOVING FOR THE NEXT
ADMINISTRATION ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME
LIFTOFF.
SO THIS IS -- THIS IS MY MOTION IS A MOTION FOR CITY LEGAL
TO RETURN WITH AN ORDINANCE ON APRIL 16, 2026 FOR A CITY OF
TAMPA VETERANS COMMITTEE.
WE CAN TALK WHETHER IT IS A MAYOR'S COMMITTEE, A CITY
COUNCIL COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, ON THAT -- ON APRIL
16.
03:11:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:11:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY COMMENT?
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
03:11:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:11:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
03:11:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
SO RECENTLY -- I THINK WE -- MAINLYM WE WERE ALL THERE, BUT
WHEN WE WERE AT THE FIRE FIGHTERS BALL, THERE WERE TWO YOUNG
MEN THAT WAS RECOGNIZED, IKORA MACRON AND DARNELL BARTON.
THEY WERE RECOGNIZED -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE AWARD
THEY RECEIVED, BUT THEY HELPED SOMEONE OUT OF A HOUSE FIRE.
SO I WANTED TO MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A
COMMENDATION FEBRUARY 19, 2025 TO THEM FOR THEIR
EXTRAORDINARY BRAVERY AND QUICK ACTION IN SAVING THE LIFE OF
A NEIGHBOR DURING A HOUSE FIRE BECAUSE THEIR COURAGE EXEMPLIFIES
THE HIGHER STANDARDS OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
AND I THINK ITS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, YOU KNOW,
RECOGNIZE SOME PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING ABOVE
AND BEYOND IN DOING THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THE NEIGHBORS
AND TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITIES.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEM HERE.
03:12:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
AWESOME.
03:12:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
LOVE TO HAVE THEM HERE TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
ALSO, I JUST WANT TODAY TAKE --
03:12:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL VOTE ON THAT.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
03:13:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
AND ALSO RECENTLY, I ACTUALLY ABOUT -- THIS MORNING, THERE
WAS SOMETHING VERY TRAGIC THAT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT
WITHIN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
THIS MORNING, A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED OVER --
I THINK IT WAS MAYBE A DAY OR TWO AGO.
ALSO WITHIN MY DISTRICT, ANOTHER SHOOTING AND A STABBING.
AND THERE WAS ALSO -- A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS THAT
HAPPENED IN OUR DISTRICT.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS YOUNG LADY, A TEENAGER WHO HAS A
LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF HER.
AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APPROVING, YOU KNOW, OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS HAVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH.
THAT IS WHY I DIDN'T SPEAK MUCH OF HAVING OPPORTUNITIES
AND THINGS FOR YOUTH SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED
AND KEEP THEM INVOLVED, BUT ALSO I JUST TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT YOUNG LADY AND SEND THE WELL WISHES TO
HER FAMILY AND THE ONES FROM THE OTHER INCIDENTS.
AND ALSO I HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.
YESTERDAY, I WAS AT THE LEGACY OF FAIR OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION MEETING.
AND I REALLY ENJOY GOING TO THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS,
BECAUSE IT IS WHERE YOU GET A CHANCE TO REALLY LISTEN TO
TALK TO PEOPLE AND HEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I AM ALWAYS VERY HOPEFUL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT
REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE POSITIVE THINGS IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS AND WANTING
TO KNOW WHO DO WE TALK TO AND HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE AND
WHAT YOU NEED FROM US.
FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IT IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU
HAVE PEOPLE VERY, VERY VESTED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT -- JUST TO LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS KNOW THAT I HAVE MET WITH SO FAR.
I HAVE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
THAT ARE ESCAPING ME.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING GREAT
WORK AND REALLY WANTED TO SEE POSITIVE THINGS HAPPEN IN OUR
COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.
THAT IS ALL.
03:15:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LOVE MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS.
YOU HAVE THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN YOUR
DISTRICT.
03:15:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
GOOD ONES ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:15:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:15:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANTED TO THANK YOU BOARD MEMBER OR
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG FOR YOUR REMARKS ON TRAGEDIES.
JAY JOHNSON WITH RISE UP FOR PEACE, HE OST HIS SON ON
NEW YEAR'S EVE, AND BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY HAD SIMILAR
SIMILAR TRAGEDIES IN HER LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR ADVOCATING FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME.
BECAUSE TOO MANY TIMES WHEN THINGS LIKE HAPPEN IN CERTAIN
PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEY DON'T GET PUBLICITY.
THEY DON'T.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
03:16:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:16:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, SO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
THINGS.
WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT -- WE TALKED ABOUT -- OR IN
FEBRUARY, WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS LEFT
OVER FROM FY '25.
WE HAVE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE FY '26 BUDGET WE
NEEDED TO START EARLIER FOR FY '27.
TO SOLVE THE ARTS AND SOCIAL FUNDING, WE WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE
AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE REST
OF THE $2 BILLION.
I MOVE TO SCHEDULE A COUNCIL DISCUSSION DURING THE MAY 28,
2026 WORKSHOP ON SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND, SPECIFICALLY
WHAT PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE, WHAT ARE OUR GOALS,
AND DEFINE GRANTS VERSUS FINANCING AND OUTSOURCING.
I HAVE THIS WRITTEN DOWN, SULING, SO DON'T WORRY.
IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT I WILL ASK MISS KOPESKY TO REACH OUT
TO EACH OF US AND KIND OF GET OUR THOUGHTS ALREADY AND
COLLATE IT SO SHE CAN LEAD THIS DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THIS IS A
DISCUSSION BETWEEN US AND COUNCIL.
IT DOESN'T NEED THE ADMINISTRATION NECESSARILY.
THEY CAN COME AND LISTEN, BUT I REALLY THINK MISS KOPESKY
CAN TALK TO US AND FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
BUT I AM GOING TO SEND HER OUT WITH THOSE THREE MAIN
QUESTIONS OF WHAT -- WHAT ACTUALLY ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE.
NOT JUST HANDING OUT MONEY.
WHAT IS THE POINT?
AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND KIND OF GET A GOAL AROUND
THAT.
THAT IS MY FIRST MOTION.
03:18:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:18:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
03:18:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN MISS SHARP HAS BEEN OUT THIS MORNING
ASKING ALL OF YOUR AIDES WHAT YOUR AVAILABILITY IS, BECAUSE
I WANT TO SCHEDULE A MEETING OF FY '26 BUDGET BEFORE SPRING
BREAK.
I WANT THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO KNOW WHAT OUR
PRIORITIES ARE BEFORE THEY BUILD A BUDGET.
SPEAKING OF THE YOUTH, A GREAT TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
MOVE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE FY FOR CITY
COUNCIL ONLY TO DISCUSS OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES.
IT WILL BE LED BY MISS KOPESKY AND I WILL WORK WITH HER ON
AGENDA WHICH, OF COURSE, SHE WILL REACH OUT TO ALL OF YOU.
BUT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT KIND OF MEETING WE
WANTED TO HAVE FOR THIS.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE -- WHEN I ENVISION, I WOULD LOVE THE
PUBLIC TO ATTEND.
A SPECIAL CALLED EVENING MEETING FIRST OF ITS KIND.
MR. SHELBY SAID HE CAN'T REMEMBER A TIME WHEN COUNCIL HAS
EVER DONE THIS.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE
PUBLIC.
THEY ARE HEARING -- THEY WANT US -- THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE
THIS MONEY IS GOING.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
IF THAT IS AMENABLE TO YOU ALL, AND I SAW SOME NODS, WE HAVE,
AGAIN, MISS SHARP TALKED TO YOUR AIDES AND SEEMS THAT MARCH
3, EVENING, WHICH IS A MONDAY NIGHT.
MARCH 9 IN THE MORNING OR MARCH 10, WHICH IS KIND OF IFFY
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HERMAN MASSEY RIBBON CUTTING AND THAT IS
A CRA THING.
WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE FOR THAT.
MARCH 9 IS A TUESDAY.
THAT'S WHY -- I ACTUALLY BROUGHT OUT MY PHONE.
I NEVER, EVER HAVE MY PHONE ON DAIS AND, YIKES, THAT WAS ME
WITH ALL THE BEEPS.
THAT IS WHY DIDN'T DON'T HAVE IT ON HERE.
BUT, AGAIN, SHE WENT TO YOUR STAFF AND ASKED.
03:19:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARCH 9 IS GOOD FOR ME.
03:20:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MARCH 3 WOULD BE AN EVENING MEETING.
03:20:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
MARCH 9 IN THE MORNING WOULD --
03:20:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW WHEN HART MET.
03:20:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, MARCH 3, I HAVE IN THE EVENING -- MARCH
9, I HAVE SOME DEPOSITIONS AND IF I WIN A MOTION THREE WEEKS
BEFORE THEN I AM OUT OF THOSE DEPOSITIONS, SO MARCH 9 IS THE
MAYBE.
MARCH 3 IN THE EVENING I CAN DO.
I CAN.
I AM AVAILABLE MARCH 3.
MARCH 9 IS IFFY, BECAUSE I -- I ERRONEOUSLY HAD SOMETHING,
BRANDON THAT WAS MY FAULT.
MARCH 3, I AM AVAILABLE IN THE EVENING.
03:20:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARCH 3 I AM GOOD.
03:20:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I GUESS.
03:20:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THURSDAY OF CITY COUNCIL.
03:20:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE THE TSA.
03:20:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I -- I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AT 5:00 AND
REALLY MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT.
AND REALLY GET THE PUBLIC TO COME AND TELL US WHAT THEY
WANT.
03:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW LONG DO YOU WANT THIS MEETING TO GO?
03:21:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, MAYBE THREE HOURS.
03:21:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING
FOR 5:00 ON MARCH 3, A TUESDAY NIGHT.
I MOVE TO SCHEDULE -- THERE ARE IS -- THIS IS SPECIFICALLY
TO TALK ABOUT FY '27.
MISS KOPESKY WILL LEAD.
BUT FOR US TO LISTEN TO THROW OUT IDEAS AND TALK TO EACH
OTHER.
I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE PAST HAVE COME TO US EACH
INDIVIDUALLY, BUT TO KIND OF TALK HOLISTICALLY AND HEAR FROM
THE PUBLIC.
DO THEY WANT -- WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN PAVING, BUT WHERE
ELSE DO THEY WANT THAT MONEY.
DO THEY WANT IT SPECIFIC?
WE HEARD A LOT OF PARKS PEOPLE.
FROM SIDEWALKS.
FROM STORMWATER.
WHERE DO THEY WANT US TO SPEND MONEY?
03:21:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY PAVING.
03:21:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE NOT SAID THAT.
A LOT OF MONEY IN PAVING, AND WE MAY NOT NEED TO MOVE MORE.
AGAIN, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.
AND SEND SOMETHING TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
AND AGAIN, MISS KOPESKY WILL REACH OUT OF THE TO YOU AND
HELP SHEPHERD THIS.
THIS IS BRAND-NEW THING.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
03:22:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DID WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:22:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF NOT, I WILL SECOND IT.
03:22:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG SECONDED IT.
THIS SPEAKING TO SCHEDULING THE SPECIAL MEETING.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:22:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, CAN WE HAVE A PROPOSED TIME CUTOFF --
03:22:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD SAID 8:00.
03:22:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, 2026,
SPECIFICALLY FROM 5 TO 8 P.M.
03:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG, YOU WANT TO SPEAK
ON THE ISSUE?
03:23:02PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
WHAT I SAY IS COLLABORATION AND A WAY TO COLLABORATE WITH
YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY LISTENING.
SO I THINK THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA AND MAY BE A WAY FOR
PEOPLE TO SEE THAT WE ARE LITTLE BIT MORE ALIKE IN OUR
THINKING THAN WE MAY THINK.
SO GREAT TO HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER IN ONE SPACE.
03:23:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
03:23:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL MAKE IT WORK.
03:23:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
03:23:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
I AM VERY EXCITED AND MAKE IT WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE.
03:23:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, ANY NEW
BUSINESS?
03:23:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I DO NOT.
03:23:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
MICROPHONE.
03:23:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
A COMMENDATION TO THE MEDAL WINNERS OF 2025-'26 OF AMERICAN
LEGION ORATORICAL CONTEST.
REFLECTION OF KEEN INTEREST AND PRINCIPLES OUTLINED IN THE
CONSTITUTION OF UNITED STATES AND THEIR AWARENESS OF THE
RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS INCUMBENT ON EACH CITIZEN TO EXERCISE
THE RIGHTS TO PROTECT THOSE RIGHTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ACCOMMODATION IN THE
EVENING SECTION OF MARCH 12, 2026 AT 5:01.
03:24:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:24:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED HAVE IT.
03:24:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HOPE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LISTENING.
03:24:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
03:24:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I RECOGNIZE CHAIR CLENDENIN. .
03:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE SEVERAL THINGS
03:24:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GAVE US A LOVELY MEMO.
03:24:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WRITTEN BY MR. SHELBY.
03:24:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE IS GOOD.
03:24:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T GO THAT FAR.
SO -- THIS IS IN DISCUSSION WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN A HINT
FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE WORKSHOP.
FOR THE INTEREST OF CLARITY, I MAKE A MOTION CM 2510252 ON
JANUARY 29, 2026 WORKSHOP BE RETITLED FROM BY ANNUAL CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT REPORT AND PRESENTATION TO SOUTH HOWARD
RELIEF PROJECT PRESENTATION AND BY ANNUAL CAPITAL PROJECT FOR
A WRITTEN REPORT.
FURTHER THAT STAFF WILL BE LIMITED TO FOCUS ON SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD PROJECTS WHILE ACCOMPANIED WRITTEN REPORT WILL
CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS.
03:25:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
03:25:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN AND A SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I THINK WE ARE ALL GOOD AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO DISAGREED
IS NO LONGER WITH US.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
03:25:58PM >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF --
03:26:00PM >> ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU GO TO THAT, COULD -- I WOULD STILL
PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE A MOTION ABOUT SEEING IF STAFF COULD
-- COULD HAVE A COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED BY NEXT
THURSDAY.
SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE
VERY HELPFUL IN --
03:26:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN THE INTEREST OF COMMUNICATION SOMETHING
IN.
03:26:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK BY NEXT THURSDAY IF WE CAN ASK --
03:26:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL ADD TO THAT ANOTHER MOTION.
03:26:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION ABOUT THAT.
I WOULD FEEL BETTER AND ALL OF US WILL FEEL BETTER.
03:26:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH EXPANDED SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
03:26:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A COUPLE OF DATES AND PLACES WHERE PEOPLE
CAN FINISH WATCHING THIS IF THEY CAN'T JOIN US, WATCH
US LATER, AND HEAR WHERE THEY CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON
THESE DATES AND THESE TIMES.
03:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASK STAFF TO PRESENT A FINANCIAL
RESOLUTION OF THE PROJECTED REMAINING AMOUNT IN LOWER
STORMWATER WATERSHED OF THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF AND
STREETSCAPE CAPITAL PROJECT, AND I THINK GET IT TO
COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION DURING THE JANUARY 29, 2026 EVENING
MEETING.
JUST FOR FYI.
THAT IS THE MOTION.
FYI, ONLY THREE AB CASES, FEW OF COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS, AND
ONE OF THEM WILL PROBABLY BE CONTINUED.
03:27:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
03:27:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ANY OPPOSED?
03:27:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NAY.
03:27:26PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO AND
CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
03:27:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM.
FOR --
03:27:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FINANCIAL RESOLUTION TO THE 29th EVENING
MEETING.
03:27:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OF JANUARY?
03:27:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
03:27:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AS I LEARNED ABOUT THIS THROUGH SOCIAL
MEDIA, THIS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE PROPOSED AT THE
FEBRUARY 5 MEETING?
OKAY.
THANKS.
03:27:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FYI, I AM NOT GOING TO BE AT THE FEBRUARY
5 MEETING.
NEXT THING IS IN REFERENCE TO THE CRC ISSUE.
I WORKED CLOSELY WITH LEGAL STAFF, THE FACILITATOR.
ATTORNEY FOR THE CRC AND, OF COURSE, MR. SHELBY.
SO IN LIGHT OF THAT IN THE MEMO THAT I SENT, I MOVE TO NOT
AMEND THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-1044 AND ADO THIS
MEMORANDUM OF THE CHAIR DATED JANUARY 1, 2026 POLICY
OF CITY COUNCIL AND BE DIRECTED BACK TO THE CHARTER REVIEW
ADVISORY COMMISSION.
03:28:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION.
PER YOUR MEMO.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WITH THIS IS TO REMIND THE BOARD, THESE
ARE THE RULES REGARDING MAJORITY VOTES AND UNANIMOUS VOTES.
SO GO BY THE GUIDELINES AND DON'T TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
SECOND.
03:28:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT TO WIDEN THE SCOPE.
THAT WAS -- THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO WIDEN THE SCOPE.
03:28:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DID NOT SIT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION LAST TIME AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK DID.
I LISTENED WHAT THEY SAID DURING THAT EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK
WE ALL DID.
WHEN THAT WORKSHOP OF CRAFTING THESE RULES WAS REALLY
WEIGHED HEAVY ON THEIR EXPERIENCE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DID WHAT WE DID.
OKAY.
03:29:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE IT AND GLAD WE DID IT NOW AND
DIDN'T WAIT.
I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN, SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
03:29:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:29:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE --
03:29:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
03:29:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT A COMMENDATION.
THIS IS YOUR BIRTHDAY PRESENT.
03:29:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOT THAT.
ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK -- JUST TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS.
WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKED A BIG THING FROM THE RAYS, OKAY.
MAYBE WE SHOULD SET -- I DON'T WANT TO GET -- BUT -- IN
OTHER WORDS, START THINKING OF MAYBE SETTING TIMES ASIDE.
I AM NOT GOING TO START TO GET INTO MY THOUGHTS ABOUT IT,
BUT WE SHOULD CERTAINLY DEDICATE SPECIAL TIME FOR THAT IN
COUNCIL.
03:30:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
AYES HAVE IT.
I HAVE A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS TO SIGN.

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