TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:15:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I AM FILLING IN FOR CHAIR CLENDENIN TODAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION.
AFTER HE INTRODUCES THE INVOCATION, IF WE COULD STAY
STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:16:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
I HAVE CT HARRIS HERE THIS MORNING WHO WE ALL KNOW.
BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, I'LL GO THROUGH A SHORT BIO.
HER DAUGHTER IS BEHIND HER ALSO.
CT IS AN ACCOMPLISHED ENTREPRENEUR, PODCAST HOST,
PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATOR AND MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.
CT HAS BUILT A REPUTATION AS A CATALYST FOR CHANGE ACROSS
INDUSTRIES.
HER WORK IS GROUNDED IN AUTHENTIC ENGAGEMENT, BOLD THINKING,
AND A RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF SOLUTIONS THAT UPLIFT

COMMUNITIES AND CREATE OPPORTUNITY.
AS DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION, CONNECTIONS AND OUTREACH FOR A
LOCAL NONPROFIT, CT CONTINUES TO LEAD WITH HEART AND
PURPOSE, AMPLIFYING VOICES, FORGING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS AND
CREATING PATHWAYS FOR LASTING IMPACT.
WITH OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SPANNING ENTREPRENEURSHIP,
PUBLIC SERVICE, AND STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS, CT BRINGS A
UNIQUE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE, IDEAS, AND RESOURCES
TO DRIVE MEANINGFUL CHANGE.
HER CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE BEGAN AS A LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE WHERE SHE HELPED CHAMPION
INCLUSIVE INITIATIVES AND RALLY BEHIND EQUALITY AND
HUMANITY.
HER SUCCESS IN THAT ROLE PAVED THE WAY FOR HER HISTORICAL
APPOINTMENT AS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S FIRST SMALL BUSINESS
NAVIGATOR, AN ACHIEVEMENT THAT REFLECTS HER DEEP COMMITMENT
TO ECONOMIC EQUITY AND INNOVATION.
AND I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, PROBABLY OTHERS WHO WERE HERE, WE
MISS YOUR POSITIVE ENERGY WHERE YOU LIGHT UP THE ROOM
WHEREVER YOU GO.
THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
EVERYBODY, PLEASE STAND AND STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE.
9:17:38AM >> GREETINGS, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, AND YOUR AMAZING AIDE.
PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

DEAR HEAVENLY ETERNAL FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH
GRATEFUL HEARTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TO EVERY PERSON WHO HAS
BEEN ENTRUSTED WITH LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY.
THANK YOU TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO
SERVE AND FOR THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY CARRY ON BEHALF OF
THIS CITY AND ITS CITIZENS.
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE PROGRESS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE
FOR GROWTH, OPPORTUNITY, AND THE STEADY WORK THAT HAS
STRENGTHENED THIS COMMUNITY.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERY GOOD STEP FORWARD IS MADE POSSIBLE
BY THE WISDOM, INTELLECT AND PERSEVERANCE YOU PROVIDE.
WE ASK THAT THIS SAME CLARITY OF MIND, DISCERNMENT AND
VISION CONTINUE TO GUIDE EVERY DECISION MADE HERE TODAY.
LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE RESTORATION OF HUMANITY AND
LEADERSHIP, HELP US REMEMBER THAT BEHIND EVERY POLICY, EVERY
VOTE AND EVERY DEBATE ARE REAL PEOPLE, REAL FAMILIES, AND
REAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
GIVE OUR LEADERS THE COURAGE TO LOOK BEYOND PARTY LINES AND
PERSONAL INTERESTS AND THE HUMILITY TO LISTEN WITH OPEN
HEARTS.
MAY DECISIONS BE ROOTED IN JUSTICE, COMPASSION AND A SHARED
COMMITMENT TO THE GREATER GOOD.
MAY THIS COUNCIL LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, UNITY, AND BOLD HOPE,
CHOOSING WHAT BUILDS, HEALS, LIFTS THE ENTIRE CITY.

GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS TAMPA, BLESS ITS LEADERS AND
BLESS ALL WHO CALL THIS CITY HOME.
I DECREE AND DECLARE TODAY IS ANOTHER DAY OF ANSWERED
PRAYER.
IN YOUR DARLING SON JESUS NAME WE PRAY.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:19:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LATE.
THERE IS A BAD ACCIDENT ON THE INTERSTATE.
SO ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:19:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:19:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:19:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:19:46AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:19:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:19:50AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
9:19:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FOR JANUARY
22nd AND THE WORKSHOP AND THE EVENING SESSIONS HELD ON
JANUARY 29?
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
WE ARE GOING TO GO STRAIGHT INTO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A WALK-ON ORDINANCE.
IS ANYONE SPEAKING ON THAT OR WILL WE GO AHEAD AND WALK IT
ON?
IF SO, I NEED A MOTION.
9:20:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:20:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE -- IT WILL BE ON FOR FIRST READING.
9:20:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON FIRST READING?
9:20:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, WE CAN PUT IT UNDER FIRST READINGS.
9:20:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE] -- UNDER FIRST READING.
9:20:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, I DON'T BELIEVE -- LET'S SEE
WHERE THAT WOULD BE.
IT WOULD BE PRIOR TO ITEM NUMBER 40.
9:20:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
THIS IS THE WALK-ON.
IT'S AFTER 39.
9:21:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, YES.
WAS THERE A VOTE ON THAT?
9:21:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
9:21:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
THERE IS A MEMO FROM MY OFFICE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR
ITEM NUMBER 1 AT THE REQUEST OF ATU, CAN --
9:21:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF
THE MONTH TO MAY 7, 2026 UNDER PRESENTATIONS AND
COMMENDATIONS.
9:21:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
I HEARD A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
9:21:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 2,
REQUEST FROM MY OFFICE FOR FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
THIS IS GOING TO BE RESCHEDULED FOR A LATER DATE TO BE
DETERMINED.
9:21:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE NEED TO MOVE TO ITEM 31.
DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, THIS NEEDS TO BE MOVED UNDER
STAFF REPORTS.

I RECOMMEND PUTTING IT RIGHT AFTER ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:22:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEM 31 TO FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER
THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:22:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 48 WAS MISNOTICED.
9:22:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 10:30.
9:22:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS TOLD, NO.
9:22:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN TAKE IT NOW.
CAN'T HEAR IT AT 10:30.
MIGHT AS WELL REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
MR. MICHELINI REPRESENTS.
THE DATE IS MAY 7 OF 2026, TO RENOTICE.
REMOVE FROM AGENDA AND RENOTICE, PLEASE.
9:22:47AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
WE, WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THE
MAY 7 DATE FOR A NEW HEARING.
9:22:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOUR MOTION COULD INCLUDE RENOTICING.
9:22:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 48 TO --
9:23:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE THIS IS A MISNOTICE, IT HAS TO BE
REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND RESCHEDULED --
9:23:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO REMOVE ITEM 48 AND IT WILL BE
RESCHEDULED AT A LATER DATE.
9:23:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.

9:23:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, ONE MOTION, SAME DATE.
THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND
RESCHEDULE IT TO BE RESET FOR MAY 7, 2026 AT 1:30.
9:23:28AM >> 10:
30.
9:23:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
10:30.
9:23:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 49
FROM TODAY'S --
9:23:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
48 VAC 25-10.
9:23:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 48, VAC
25-10 FROM TODAY'S AGENDA AND THEN HAVE IT RESET FOR MAY 7
UNDER 10:30 A.M., INCLUDING RENOTICING.
9:23:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:24:02AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:24:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVING ON TO STAFF REPORTS.
WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FROM DIRECTOR TED FOWLER ON
THE CITY PARK PIERS.
SO THAT WILL GO ON.
IS STAFF NEEDED FOR ITEM 51?
9:24:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
YOU HAD CONTINUED THAT, DIDN'T YOU, OR NO?
THE OLD LIBRARY BUILDING ON 7th, RIGHT?
9:24:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

IT HAS BEEN -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO SPEAK TO THAT?
9:24:43AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SURE.
THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT, THREE-YEAR TERM FOR THE CONTRACT,
IT IS TWO YEARS, AND THEN THEY PUT A CLAUSE IN THERE THAT
EITHER SIDE WITH A 270-DAY NOTICE CAN TERMINATE THE
AGREEMENT.
AND THEN ALSO THEY PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT CITY OF TAMPA
CAN GO IN AND MAKE ANY REPAIRS AND ASSESSMENTS WHILE THEY
ARE WORKING, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T DISRUPT WHAT THEY ARE
DOING.
9:25:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S FINE.
9:25:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MADAM CHAIR, THAT WILL BE NO STAFF NEEDED
AND IT WILL BE TAKEN UP AFTER THE CONSENT DOCKET.
9:25:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
9:25:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
9:25:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOING BACK TO ITEM 31, DO WE NEED STAFF FOR
THAT?
THE LARGE AMOUNT, BUT DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:25:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE THING ON 51?
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER.
THE BIG PROPOSAL LAST YEAR WAS MOVE USF GRAPHICS STUDIOS IN
THERE, AND THERE WAS A WHOLE MOVEMENT WHERE MONEY WAS RAISED
AND THEN IT GOT STOPPED SOMEWHERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT FOR THE WHOLE

AREA AND PROVIDE GRASSROOTS ARTISTS PLACES TO LEVERAGE OFF
THE EXPERTISE OF GRAPHICS.
YOU MAY KNOW THAT ALREADY, JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T.
I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS COMING UP WITH IDEAS, TOO.
BUT THAT IS AN IDEA THAT COULD REALLY HELP TRANSFORM THE
WHOLE AREA.
9:26:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE.
ITEM 52, DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:26:23AM >> NO.
9:26:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
9:26:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STAFF IS MONITORING THIS, IF YOU COULD
ANNOUNCE AFTER CONSENSUS, NO STAFF OR STAFF.
9:26:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, AT THE END -- THAT'S FINE.
9:26:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS YOU GO ALONG BECAUSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING.
9:26:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM 31 NO STAFF, 51 NO STAFF, 52 NO STAFF.
ITEM NUMBER 53.
9:26:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, I DON'T FIND THE WRITTEN REPORT TO BE
ACCEPTABLE, SO I WANT TO DISCUSS THEM.
REALLY, WE COULD PROBABLY ASK MARTY, BUT IF SOMEBODY FROM
LEGAL WANTS TO BE HERE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO
RESTRICT WHAT IS DONE TO SHUT DOWN THE ROADS IN DOWNTOWN
BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING ISN'T WORKING.
9:27:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M ASSUMING THAT ALSO APPLIES TO 54.
9:27:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
9:27:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
53 AND 54 WE DO WANT STAFF.

I'LL TELL STAFF RIGHT NOW, YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED TO COME
BEFORE LUNCH.
BECAUSE -- OR POP UP HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE I
THINK WE'LL GET THROUGH SOME THINGS.
WHAT ABOUT 55?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT IS A VERBAL REPORT.
WE'LL SAY YES, WE DO WANT STAFF FOR THAT.
ITEM 56.
THAT IS A WRITTEN RESPONSE.
I WILL LEAVE IT TO SAY YES -- YEAH, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO 56
AS WELL.
57, THOSE ALL KIND OF GO TOGETHER.
SO STAFF, YES FOR 55, 56, AND 57.
58 YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT DISCUSSION TO THE VERY END AFTER
ITEM NUMBER 60 SO THAT WE CAN GET THE REST OF OUR AGENDA
DONE.
9:28:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT?
WE GOT BOMBARDED WITH E-MAILS.
I THINK LAST WEEK WE WERE SAYING WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET
BOMBARDED BY E-MAILS BUT WE DID ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT
TOPICS.
I THINK JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE SITTING AROUND ALL DAY
WONDERING IF THEIR ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO GET FUNDED, I
THINK THAT WE HAVE THE SOCIAL ACTION FUND COMING UP IN THE

NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IN A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
9:28:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
AND THAT'S TALKING ABOUT 2027.
THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT NOW.
THAT'S A MAY WORKSHOP, APRIL OR MAY.
9:28:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE
IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET SURPLUS, TALK ABOUT WHERE
WE MOVE BUCKETS.
IF WE DECIDE TO FUND SOMETHING OTHER THAN A CITY PROJECT,
THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING A SET DOLLAR AMOUNT TO THE
SOCIAL ACTION FUND AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE
DISCUSSION WITHIN THE SOCIAL ACTION FUND ABOUT HOW TO SPEND
THE MONEY.
I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME KIND OF EVENT IN MARCH TO TALK ABOUT
IT.
9:29:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
THAT'S TO TALK ABOUT THE 2027 BUDGET.
WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT THAT DURING ITEM 58.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
9:29:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
BUT MY POINT IS THAT IF THERE IS AN
INDIVIDUAL NONPROFIT OUT HERE, IDEALLY, WE WOULD HAVE THE
SOCIAL ACTION FUND DISCUSSION ON ITS OWN SEPARATE FROM --
THE DISCUSSION HERE TODAY WOULD BE WHETHER WE PUT MORE MONEY
IN THE SOCIAL ACTION FUND.
IDEALLY, WOULDN'T BE GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE NONPROFIT

RIGHT NOW.
9:29:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS A DISCUSSION FOR 58.
COUNCILMAN VIERA IS NOT HERE AND I KNOW HAS A LOT TO SAY
ABOUT THAT.
YES, WE NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
MS. KOPESKY WILL BE HERE FOR THAT.
9:29:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, JUST FOR THE
CONTEXT FOR THE PUBLIC, THERE ARE NO BUDGET RESOLUTIONS ON
THE AGENDA, SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY OFFICIAL ACTION
RELATIVE TO MOVING MONEY TODAY.
9:29:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 59 IS STAFF NEEDED?
NO.
OKAY.
SO NO STAFF IS NEEDED FOR 59.
WHAT ABOUT 60?
9:30:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 19.
9:30:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 60 TO
FEBRUARY 19.
I HAVE A SECOND -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
9:30:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 61 AND 62.
9:30:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS 61 AND 62.
THOSE ARE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.

THOSE AREN'T THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
I HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- ACTUALLY, I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH
THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT -- COUNCILMAN VIERA MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO
SAY ABOUT 51 OR 61.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
I BELIEVE, MR. SHELBY, IT IS UP TO YOU.
9:31:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY HERE TO TALK WITH YOU
VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THIS MORNING'S
MEETING.
NOW, YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT A GENERAL

PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THIS MORNING UNDER
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE.
ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.
PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEMS PER
COUNCIL RULES.
NOW, A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES PER SPEAKER.
PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ MAY NOT BE
CALLED.
TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK
AT SOMETHING LABELED A PUBLIC HEARING, ITEMS 40 THROUGH 49
ON TODAY'S AGENDA, THE PLACE TO SIGN UP FOR THAT IS NOT TO
FILL OUT A CARD BUT TO FILL OUT THE SIGN-IN SHEET FOR PUBLIC
HEARINGS THAT'S AT THE PODIUM OUTSIDE, AND YOUR NAME WILL BE
CALLED AT THE TIME -- EXCUSE ME, YOU WILL HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
YOUR NAME WILL NOT BE CALLED BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK WHEN THAT ITEM IS CALLED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE PLEASE REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM
DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING
REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR
DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL AS A
WHOLE RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.

THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD PLEASE REFRAIN FROM
ENGAGING A SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE
QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE ON ITEMS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET OR HERE TO
SPEAK ON ANYTHING ON STAFF REPORTS OR AFTER THAT, IF YOU
WANT TO SPEAK ON OFF THE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU'LL HAVE THAT
OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU.
9:33:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO NOT HAVE THE SPEAKER CARDS YET, BUT WE
DO HAVE OUR REGISTERED ONLINE SPEAKERS.
WE'LL START WITH MR. RANDOLPH.
9:34:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC, OVER THE MONTHS WE DISCUSSED

THE MAJOR PARTS OF THE JOB CREATION CENTER, HOW A.I. CAN
HELP TRANSFORM UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND CAN EXPAND
CAPITAL ASSETS TO LOW-INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
I WANT TO SHOW HOW THEY CONNECT TOGETHER FOR THE EQUITY
ROLE.
THE WEST TAMPA OPPORTUNITY NETWORK BRINGS THESE COMPONENTS
TOGETHER INTO A COORDINATED PATH MAKING RESIDENTS,
BUSINESSES, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS.
FIRST, THE SKILL ENHANCEMENT BUILDER OFFERING WORKSHOPS,
CERTIFICATION, TRAINING, HIGH LIVING WAGE CAREER TO
RESIDENTS TO GAIN SKILLS FOR TODAY'S TECH SOCIETY.
SECOND, THE HOME-BASE E-COMMERCE SUPPORTS HOME-BASED AND
ONLINE ENTREPRENEURS, STOREFRONT DEVELOPMENT, MARKETING HELP
AND BUSINESS TO RESIDENT CONNECTION THAT HELP GROW.
THIRD, THE WEST TAMPA BUSINESS NEXT CONNECTS LOCAL COMPANIES
WITH RESIDENTS, EMERGING ENTREPRENEURS, AND COMMUNITY
RESOURCES TO STRENGTHEN COLLABORATIVE MENTORSHIP AND
ECONOMIC GROWTH.
FOUR, NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR CONNECT LINKS NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS
TO SHARE INFORMATION, COORDINATE ACTIVITIES AND ACCESS
RESOURCES, SOCIAL TIES.
FINALLY, THE JOB CONNECTION IS A STREAMLINE -- WRAPAROUND
SERVICES AND CAREER NAVIGATION SUPPORT CREATING A CLEAR
PATHWAY TO EMPLOYMENT AND STABILITY.
THE WEST TAMPA TECHNOLOGY AND WEALTH-BUILDING CENTER HAS

MADE NATIONAL ATTENTION FOR THE BOTTOM-UP DISPLACEMENT
STRATEGY.
NO MONEY, NO OFFICE AND NO PAID STAFF.
ONLY A COMMUNITY COMMITTED TO DOING THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
I HAVE THE SPEAKERS TODAY.
JUST A REMINDER THAT IF YOU ARE TALKING ON THE AGENDA AND
YOU HAVE WRITTEN SOMETHING DOWN, THOSE GO FIRST.
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC TOPIC GO NEXT.
SO MY FIRST COMMENTER TODAY IS ELIZABETH THOMAS FOLLOWED BY
MARYBETH WILLIAMS AND PASTOR WILLIAMS.
ELIZABETH THOMAS.
THANK YOU.
9:37:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ELIZABETH THOMAS.
THE GROWTH -- MORE AND MORE FAMILIES ARE MOVING IN.
YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE ENDLESS CONSTRUCTION, WAIT LIST FOR
DAY CARES, FULL SUMMER PROGRAMS AND TRAFFIC WHERE A SHORT
FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE NOW TAKES 25.
YOU REALLY SEE IT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
KIDS ARE EVERYWHERE NOW.
CHILDREN ARE OUTSIDE PLAYING IN PLACES WHERE JUST A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO THERE WASN'T A SINGLE KID IN SIGHT.

THE COUNTY'S GROWTH IS WELL REPORTED AND YOU CAN SEE THE
IMPACT ACROSS SOUTH TAMPA.
THERE IS SIMPLY MORE FAMILIES WITH KIDS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK.
THAT'S WHY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
FAMILIES RELY ON THEM AND PERSONALLY VISITED EVERY PARK
SOUTH OF GANDY AND MOST NORTH OF GANDY, WHAT STOOD OUT
IMMEDIATELY WAS THAT THESE PARKS HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED
FOR YEARS AT THE EXACT MOMENT WHEN WE NEED THEM THE MOST.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES.
AT PALMA CEIA LIONS PARK, THE PICNIC SHELTER ROOF IS CAVING
IN.
IT IS COMPLETELY UNUSABLE.
ACROSS ALMOST EVERY PARK, THE PLAY STRUCTURES ARE OUTDATED,
THE SWING SETS ARE MISSING SWINGS, CRACKED, AND MANY MOLDED
SWINGS AS WELL.
RIGHT ACROSS FROM ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL AT BOBBY HICKS PARK,
THE BASKETBALL COURT IS SUNKEN IN.
THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT ALLOCATING 2.5 MILLION IN SURPLUS
ROLLOVER FUNDS TO SOUTH TAMPA PARK REPAIRS.
THESE ARE LONG OVERDUE FIXES THAT FAMILIES RUN INTO EVERY
DAY.
THE LAND IS THERE.
THE PARKS ARE ESTABLISHED.
FAMILIES SHOULDN'T HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS
JUST TO FIND A SAFE, USABLE PARK.

THIS SURPLUS GIVES US A REAL CHANCE TO FINALLY ADDRESS THESE
LONG-STANDING ISSUES.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION GADSDEN PARK, WHICH I'VE BEEN
ADVOCATING FOR HEAVILY.
I'M GRATEFUL IMPROVEMENTS ARE PLANNED BUT MANY OF THE
IMPORTANT FIXES ARE SET FAR INTO THE FUTURE.
FAMILIES ARE USING THAT PARK NOW, AND I HOPE THESE
IMPROVEMENTS DO NOT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE AND CAN BE
COMPLETED ALONGSIDE THESE OTHER REPAIRS.
THANK YOU.
9:39:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE MARYBETH WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY PASTOR WILLIAMS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, TARAH BLUMA.
9:39:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MARYBETH WILLIAMS.
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY
SUPPORTERS, I WOULD LIKE TO SINCERELY THANK CITY COUNCIL,
THE MAYOR, AND CITY STAFF FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR
INCLUDING THE TAMPA RIVERWALK AS A CITY ASSET IN THE FISCAL
YEAR 26 BUDGET.
WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP AND
FOR THE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU PLACE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.
THE SUPPORT WILL ALLOW CONTINUED, HIGH-QUALITY PROGRAMMING,
EVENTS THAT ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND SERVICES

THAT ACTIVATE THE RIVERWALK, ENHANCE OUR DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT
AND CREATE WELCOMING EXPERIENCES FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS
ALIKE.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER YEAR OF STRONG COLLABORATION AND
TO DELIVERING TOP-NOTCH PROGRAMMING THAT REFLECTS THE PRIDE
WE ALL SHARE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
9:40:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PASTOR WILLIAMS FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA.
AND THEN JASON MARLOW.
9:40:27AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT
STREET.
YOU KNOW I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT NOTHING ON THE AGENDA.
I WANT TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART.
YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE AND I LOVE PEOPLE AND
GOD LOVES PEOPLE.
HE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE US IF HE DIDN'T LOVE US.
THANK GOD THAT HE DO LOVE US.
ALL OF US.
WHETHER WHITE, BLACK, GREEN, WHATEVER COLOR YOU WANT TO BE.
GOD LOVES EVERYBODY.
I THANK GOD FOR LOVING ME.
NOW I'VE GOT A PROBLEM.
I TOLD YOU I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT NOTHING ON THE
AGENDA, BUT I DID WANT TO SPEAK SOME BLACK HISTORY TO YOU.

BUT NOT BLACK HISTORY NOW.
IT'S WHITE HISTORY.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.
I'M WRITING A BOOK AND IT'S COMPLETED.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WANT ME TO PUBLISH IT OR NOT, BUT
I'M GOING TO HAVE IT PUBLISHED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE DON'T GET A FAIR SHARE HERE WHATSOEVER OR THE COURT
HOUSE.
BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE PEOPLE.
WE'RE WITH UNITED AND WE'RE SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE
WORLD BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGENDA, AND WE WANT TO HONOR JESUS
CHRIST, HONOR GOD ALMIGHTY.
WE THANK GOD FOR THE DAYS.
HANDICAP AND YOU ALL DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ME.
SOMEBODY WILL GIVE A DAMN AND THAT'S GOD ALMIGHTY.
GOD HAS BEEN SO GOOD TO ME.
I GOT A LOT I WANT TO SAY.
LIKE I SAID, NOTHING ON THIS AGENDA, BUT IT'S COMING FROM
THE HEART.
A LITTLE WHITE BOY WENT -- KILLED 20 PEOPLE BESIDES
TEACHERS.
THAT'S SAD.
WHAT KIND OF SATISFACTION CAN HE GET OUT OF THAT?
LITTLE WHITE GIRL.

I'M WONDERING WHAT KIND OF SATISFACTION CAN SHE GET KILLING
HER MAMA.
HER MAMA WAS A SUNDAY SCHOOLTEACHER.
WE DON'T DO THINGS IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I TELL YOU SOMETHING, WE TRY TO GET IT RIGHT FOR THE LORD
JESUS OR WE'LL BE IN A WORLD OF TROUBLE IF WE DON'T HAVE IT
RIGHT.
I PRAISE GOD EVERYWHERE I GO.
MY LOVE FOR GOD AND LOVE FOR YOU, THANK GOD FOR YOU ALL.
9:43:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I HAVE A CARD FOR SANDY -- I THINK IT'S SANCHEZ.
I DON'T SEE SANDY HERE.
OH, OKAY.
THIS IS FOR A REZONING, AND WE DON'T FILL OUT COMMENT CARDS.
THOSE HAVE TO BE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE REZONING ITSELF.
TARAH BLUMA.
WE'LL WAIT UNTIL -- FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS
JOINED US.
OKAY.
TARAH BLUMA.
9:44:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M TARAH BLUMA.
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD A TIME OR TWO THIS WEEK THAT THE
RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA WOULD LIKE SOME HELP WITH THEIR
PARKS.

TODAY, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE PARKS IN SOUTH
TAMPA WITH SOME DESPERATELY NEEDED REPAIRS.
YOU ALL RECEIVED A LIST OF REPAIRS COMPILED WITH FEEDBACK
FROM HUNDREDS OF MOMS.
WE ASK THAT YOU PRIORITIZE THESE ISSUES.
WHILE I'M SURE WE COULD HAVE COME UP WITH A LIST OF OUR
WANTS A MILE LONG, THIS LIST WAS FOCUSED ON THOSE NEEDS THAT
MUST BE ADDRESSED TO ACHIEVE A BASIC MINIMUM STANDARD.
THEY INCLUDE REPLACING THE ONLY TWO SPECIAL NEEDS SWINGS IN
SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAVE BOTH BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS.
REPLACING SWING SETS FULL OF RUST AND SWINGS FULL OF MOLD, A
SHELTER BATHROOM COMBO WITH THE ROOF CAVED IN.
SLIDES THAT ARE BOARDED UP JUST TO NAME A FEW.
PLEASE DO YOUR UTMOST TO ENSURE THE ENTIRE LIST IS RESOLVED.
AFTER A PRODUCT MEETING WITH MR. FOWLER, WE ARE FOCUSED ON A
FEW OF THE ISSUES THAT WE THINK CAN BE RESOLVED WITH A
$2.5 MILLION ALLOCATION FROM THE 2025 REMAINING FUND
BALANCE.
WE ASK FOR THIS AMOUNT WITH CONSIDERATION TO OTHER NON-CRA
AREAS THAT MAY ALSO WANT AND NEED HELP.
YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE THAN 5 MILLION TO ALLOCATE,
BUT TURNS OUT YOU'VE BEEN APPROVING THINGS WITH THAT EXTRA
MONEY WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AND TRANSPARENCY THAT YOU WERE
EVEN DOING SO.
EVEN TODAY, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE $200,000 FOR GOLF

COURSES WITH THE LEFTOVER MONEY.
NOTHING AGAINST GOLF COURSES, BUT WHY ARE THEY GETTING A
SPECIAL ITEM?
WHY AREN'T YOU CONSIDERING THAT REQUEST WITH THE REST OF THE
$5 MILLION?
YOU ARE ALSO APPROVING AJ PALONIS TODAY.
WE SPENT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
AND PERMITTING, EXCUSE ME, FOR A PROJECT THAT DOESN'T EVEN
HAVE A BUILDING.
BACK WHEN WE RECEIVED THE MONEY, $2 MILLION WAS GOING TO
CONNECT THE TWO PARKS UNDER THE BRIDGE, PROVIDE SOME SEAWALL
IMPROVEMENTS, NEW BOARDWALK, AND A FLOATING KAYAK DOCK.
TODAY, WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THAT.
THE $2 MILLION WAS FREE MONEY FROM THEA THAT THE CITY JUST
COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO USE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
HOW MUCH MORE COULD YOU GET WITH YOUR MONEY BACK IN 2021
THAN YOU CAN GET TODAY?
SOUTH TAMPA DESERVES BETTER.
YOU'VE BEEN TO OUR PARKS.
YOU SEE OUR NEEDS.
YOU USUALLY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR US.
TODAY YOU DO AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
9:47:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT WE HAVE JASON MARLOW FOLLOWED BY LUKE -- SORRY IF I

MISPRONOUNCE THAT.
9:47:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, ON THIS DREARY THURSDAY.
I'M HERE JUST TO ADVOCATE SIMPLY FOR THE FULL FUNDING OF
CORNERSTONE KIDS COMMUNITY STEPPING-STONES.
AS A PRODUCT OF AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS, I CAN PERSONALLY
ATTEST THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE CORE TO KEEPING KIDS OUT OF
TROUBLE.
IF NOT FOR THE PROGRAMS, I WOULD BE EVEN MORE TROUBLED THAN
I ALREADY AM TODAY.
COUNCIL HAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED HOW INVESTING IN THE
PROGRAMS IS A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO BOTH COMBATING CRIME AND
PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL YOUTH.
I'D ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO LEAN INTO CREATIVE WAYS OF
FINDING WAYS TO ASSIST THE AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS TO BOTH THE
BENEFIT OF CHILDREN AND PARENTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU ALL STAY DRY.
HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
9:48:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT IS LUKE SIRAC FOLLOWED BY JOHN DANGLER.
9:48:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
MY NAME IS LUKE SIRAC.
I AM THE PERMIT MANAGER FOR DOMAIN HOMES HERE TO SPEAK
TODAY, JUST KIND OF AN INTRODUCTORY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM
60, WHICH I THINK HAS TO DO WITH THE SIDEWALK AMENDMENTS.

AT DOMAIN HOMES, WE DO A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
REBUILDS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THE CITY.
TODAY I'M SPEAKING MOSTLY ON BEHALF OF THEM RATHER THAN ON
BEHALF OF DOMAIN HOMES.
A LOT OF THOSE OWNERS THAT WE REBUILT FOR LAST YEAR HAD TO
DO SO BECAUSE OF DAMAGES FROM THE HURRICANES IN 2024.
I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON TO KIND OF SPEAK ON
THIS WITH JUST SOME PRETTY ON THE GROUND INSIGHT INTO THE
CODE AND THE PROCESS AND WHAT THESE PEOPLE HAD TO GO THROUGH
IN THEIR REBUILDS.
SO MANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS WE BUILT FOR LAST YEAR WERE
REBUILDS FROM THE HURRICANE DAMAGE.
MOST OF THEM WERE IN FLOOD ZONES WHERE STORMWATER
INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, DITCHES PREVENTED THEM
FROM INSTALLING REQUIRED SIDEWALKS.
THIS RESULTED IN THEM PAYING UP TO $25,000 IN SIDEWALK IN
LIEU FEES.
AND IT IS OURS AND THE HOMEOWNER'S BELIEF THAT THE FEES WERE
UNFAIR DUE TO THEM HAVING TO REBUILD BY FORCE AND NOT REALLY
BY CHOICE.
SO THAT IS THE CONTEXT HERE, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THIS IS A
GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF DO SOME SPRING CLEANING WITH THE
SIDEWALK IN LIEU CODE.
I DRAFTED UP AN AMENDMENT BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH I'LL
PROVIDE TO YOU IN A MOMENT.

I HAVE THEM ALL PRINTED OUT HERE FOR EVERYBODY TO READ WHEN
THEY GET TO IT TODAY.
HERE IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS IN THIS DRAFT.
NUMBER ONE, AND THIS IS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM.
THE REST OF THEM ARE KIND OF OPTIONAL, JUST THINGS TO
CONSIDER.
THE FIRST THING IS, ALLOW STORM DAMAGED VICTIMS REQUIRED TO
REBUILD PER THE FEMA 51% DAMAGE RULE EXEMPTION FROM SIDEWALK
IN LIEU FEES.
ALSO CONSIDER EXPANDING THIS TO FUTURE DISASTER EVENTS
AND/OR PEOPLE REBUILDING FROM NON-FEMA COMPLIANT STRUCTURES
NOW TO FEMA COMPLIANT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THERE IS ALREADY A SECTION IN THE CODE WHICH EXEMPTS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEES.
THE SECOND THING IS TO REMOVE SECTION 22-103-C-1 WHICH
ALLOWS THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU OPTION WHEN THERE ARE NO
SIDEWALKS TO CONNECT TO.
I THINK THIS JUST REMOVES AMBIGUITY FROM THE CODE, AND IF
YOU CAN PUT IN A SIDEWALK, YOU MUST.
JUST MAKE IT EASY.
NEXT IS ADD STANDARDS FOR SIDEWALK REPORTS FROM MOBILITY.
AND NUMBER FOUR IS CONSIDER ALLOWING SIDEWALK IN LIEU FUNDS
TO BE USED FOR SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND NOT JUST NEW SIDEWALKS.
NUMBER FIVE IS JUST CLEANING UP LANGUAGE, REFERRING TO ONE
FUND VERSUS MULTIPLE FUNDS.

THERE'S MULTIPLE FUNDS PER SECTION 22-104.
JUST SOME CLEANING TO DO THERE.
THANK YOU GUYS.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:51:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF THIS IS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 60, THAT HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
FEEL FREE TO ADD IT, BUT WE CONTINUED THAT TO FEBRUARY 19.
9:51:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:51:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WE DID THAT DURING AGENDA REVIEW.
I HAVE JOHN DANGLER FOLLOWED BY -- ACTUALLY, I HAVE FIVE
CARDS FROM SOMEONE SAYING WE NEED TO ALLOCATE TIME.
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, WE DO NOT ALLOCATE TIME.
SO I WILL CALL EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
I HAVE JOHN DANGLER FOLLOWED BY -- OH, OKAY, NO, MR.
DANGLER.
WE ARE MOVING ON -- MS. SANCHEZ, YOU CAME INTO THE ROOM.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU FILLED OUT A COMMENT CARD, BUT
REZONINGS HAVE TO BE TALKED ABOUT DURING REZONINGS
THEMSELVES.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING ELSE?
IF SO, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME UP.
IF NOT, I WILL PUT YOUR CARD AWAY.
I WILL PUT YOU ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ALSO.

I HAVE FIVE CARDS FOR A P-3 PROPOSAL.
IF YOU ALL HAVE AN ORDER WITH WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO, IF
YOU WOULD COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN WE'LL GO WITH
ONE PERSON AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.
9:52:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO USE YOUR FULL THREE MINUTES IF YOU
DON'T NEED TO.
THANK YOU.
9:52:54AM >> WE THANK YOU SO MUCH -- ROBERT JAMES.
RESIDENT HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA.
JUST REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS
PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP PROPOSAL TO THE CITY.
IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONNECTED VEHICLE PILOTS THAT
WERE DONE, I WAS THE CHIEF ENGINEER ON THE TAMPA CONNECTED
VEHICLE PILOT AS WELL AS INVOLVED IN THE NEW YORK CONNECTED
VEHICLE PILOT THAT WAS DONE AT THE SAME TIME.
COLUMBUS CITY, TECHNICAL LEAD FOR THAT.
THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
WE'LL BRING THIS TO YOU EXACTLY ADDRESSING MAYOR CASTOR'S
COMMENT ABOUT THE ACHILLES' HEEL IN TAMPA.
I SPOKE WITH MAYOR CASTOR AND GAVE HER INFORMATION.
EXCITED TO SOLVE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEM THAT COUNCILMAN
VIERA HAD ON THE WAY GETTING HERE TODAY.
AND JUST REALLY ADDRESSING SAVING LIVES AND IMPROVING THE
TRANSPORTATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

MY TEAM IS GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY
AND STUFF WE WANT TO BRING AND THE BENEFITS TO THE CITY.
REALLY LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE EVOLUTION.
IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE CITY ANYTHING.
WE JUST NEED YOU TO LET US ALLOW TO DO IT, LET US BRING THE
DEVICES IN AND PUT THEM AROUND THE CITY SO WE CAN SAVE LIVES
AND GIVE YOU THE MICROPOSITIONING AND REAL-TIME INFORMATION
THAT PEOPLE NEED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
MULTIPLYING THAT CONNECTED VEHICLE PILOT BENEFITS BY A
THOUSAND, BEING ABLE TO EMPLOY THIS CITYWIDE.
AND YOU'LL BE OUT IN FRONT OF THE COUNTRY, YOU AND NEW YORK
AND AS OTHER CITIES STARTED ADOPTING THIS, OPENING UP THE
DOORS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING.
VERY EXPANSIVE BECAUSE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS CATCHING ON VERY
QUICKLY.
WE'VE ALREADY SOLVED THE CHICKEN AND EGG PROBLEM, THE
CONNECTED VEHICLE PILOT HAD.
THE VEHICLES AND CELL PHONES ALREADY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY IN
IT.
WE JUST NEED TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ASIDE TO MAKE THEM
TALK TO EACH OTHER.
FROM DAY ONE, AS SOON AS THIS IS DEPLOYED, THE CITY FLEETS
WILL START BENEFITING WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE CELL PHONE DEVICE THAT CAN GO UP IN
YOUR FLEET VEHICLES AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE, LANE

LEVEL.
ADDRESS ALL KINDS OF LITIGATION ISSUES BECAUSE YOU'LL KNOW
EXACTLY RECONSTRUCTING ANY ACCIDENT TO TEN CENTIMETER
ACCURACY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE VEHICLES
WERE DURING THOSE ACCIDENTS.
REDUCING LITIGATION, SAVING A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR PER
DRIVER ON INSURANCE COSTS BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED LITIGATION
AND THE LIVES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SAVED.
WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING YOU SOME OF THIS
INFORMATION, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO SAVE LIVES AND SOULS
BECAUSE THIS ORGANIZATION, HALF OF THE REVENUE THAT WE'LL
GENERATE IS GOING TO GO TO CHARITY.
IT'S REALLY BEEN SET UP AS A GOD-CENTERED ORGANIZATION THAT
WE REALLY WANT TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BENEFIT
TAMPA CITY AND SAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR IN
THE CITY BUDGETS AS WELL AS GENERATE BENEFIT TO THE ECONOMY
AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR.
9:55:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT, DAMON HURL -- I'M SORRY.
WHOEVER IS NEXT.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:56:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MAKE SURE THIS WORKS.
9:56:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
THERE IS A WHEEL UP TOP THAT YOU CAN MOVE TO MAKE IT FIT.

9:56:28AM >> SUPPOSED TO SEE IT HERE?
9:56:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU NEED TO SAY YOUR NAME FIRST.
9:56:32AM >> LARRY DUKE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I BROUGHT THIS -- I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS.
THIS TECHNOLOGY, SOME OF THIS SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY IS ALREADY
IN PLACE, ALREADY BEING USED, BUT NOT TO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES.
THIS, WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE HERE IS GOING TO
BRING ALL THAT TO MATURITY.
IT'S GOING TO FILL THE GAPS.
IT'S GOING TO FILL THE HOLES.
IT'S GOING TO PREVENT AND DO THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING
AT HERE.
ZERO COST DEPLOYMENT.
NO BUDGET IMPACT TO THE CITY.
8 TO $25 MILLION IN ANNUAL OPERATING SAVINGS.
THROUGH AVOIDANCE OF CRASHES, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
200 TO 1200 FEWER PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE CRASHES EVERY YEAR.
75 TO 200 MILLION DOLLARS IN TOTAL ANNUAL ECONOMIC BENEFIT
TO TAMPA.
FEDERAL BLOCK GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS BASICALLY GOING TO LEAD THE WAY IN NOT
JUST TAMPA, BUT EVENTUALLY EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
IT'S A TREMENDOUS -- THERE ARE SO MANY TREMENDOUS BENEFITS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF THE CEVE APP.
THIS IS AN APP THAT'S ALREADY BEEN USED IN 20 DIFFERENT
CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
I BELIEVE IT IS USED IN TAMPA.
AUDIBLE AND HEADS-UP DISPLAY FOR PEDESTRIANS, BIKE SAFETY,
ET CETERA.
IMMEDIATE ACCIDENT MICROPOSITIONING RECONSTRUCTION FOR
INSURANCE CLAIMS.
SO THIS IS GOING TO SAVE THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
BETTER AUTOMATED VEHICLE LOCATION POSITION FOR FLEET
VEHICLES.
SO, AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO PERFECT THAT PARTICULAR
TECHNOLOGY AND MAKE THAT WAY MORE BENEFICIAL AND USEFUL FOR
LIKE FULL DEPLOYMENT.
ALSO EMERGENCY VEHICLE AUTOMATION.
AGAIN, THERE ARE SO MANY BENEFITS TO THIS, JUST SCRATCHING
THE SURFACE HERE.
WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
GOD BLESS.
9:58:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
IF THE REST OF YOUR GROUP -- NEVER MIND.
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
9:58:55AM >> WILLIAM TOTMAN.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
IMPLEMENTED.
HERE, WE HAVE A ROADWAY MARKER AND A TOP OF LIGHT POST
CONNECTOR, WHETHER THIS IS THE EXACT IMPLEMENTATION AS IT
LOOKS ON THE CONNECTOR OR NOT, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STORY.
THE TECHNOLOGY IS ULTRAWIDE BAND GEOMETRY -- OR ROADWAY
GEOMETRY NETWORK.
BASICALLY, YOU HAVE YOUR MARKERS, WHETHER THEY ARE EMBEDDED
IN THE GROUND OR YOU SEE THEY ARE ACTUALLY LIGHTENED UP FROM
THE SOLAR HERE.
EITHER FROM HERE OR SOMETHING THAT IS MOUNTED NEAR THE
ROADWAY.
IT PROVIDES A GEOMETRY FROM WHICH YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE
LANES ARE.
AND THE CARS, THE INDIVIDUALS WITH THEIR CELL PHONES OR
BIKES CAN RELATE TO THOSE BEACONS AND THE GEOMETRY IS MADE
BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF -- IT IS DOWN TO THE MILLISECOND AS
FAR AS WHERE THE POSITION OF THE VEHICLE IS, AND THAT'S WHY
WE'RE ABLE TO GET DOWN TO TEN CENTIMETERS, ABOUT FOUR
INCHES.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN PROOF OF CONCEPT.
IN NEW YORK CITY, I USED TO LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY, SO THIS
IS REAL FOR ME.
THIS EXAMPLE HERE IS ON 6th AVENUE ABOUT 10 BLOCKS.
WE USE THE LIGHT POST MOUNTS AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THESE TWO

LINES IS RED IS STANDARD GEOPOSITIONING OR GPS WITH YOUR
PHONES, AND THEN THE BLUE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE
ULTRAWIDE BAND SOLUTION PROVIDED.
ALSO MENTIONED HERE IS THE L LINE WHICH CUTS ACROSS TO UNION
SQUARE AND INTO BROOKLYN AND HAVING WAITED FOR TRAINS FOR
EIGHT YEARS, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S LIKE.
IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL.
KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE TRAIN IS AND WHEN EXACTLY IT WILL
COME IN.
AND BEING ABLE -- THAT'S ALSO BEEN PASSED ON TO APPS WHEN
YOU'RE NOT EVEN IN THE STATION, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT FOR
PLANNING A TRIP AND BEING ABLE TO GET WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
NOW, I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT FOR BICYCLE SAFETY, THE
ULTRAWIDE BAND, THE NATURE OF IT, YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE
AROUND CORNERS.
ANYONE THAT'S TRAVELING IN THEIR VEHICLE CAN BE ALERTED,
HEY, HERE COMES A PEDESTRIAN.
HERE COMES A BICYCLIST OR E-SCOOTER, E-BIKE, ET CETERA.
THERE WE CAN PROMOTE SAFETY AND AVOID ACCIDENTS.
THE RECONSTRUCTION FOR ACCIDENTS SUPER HELPFUL.
YOU CAN FIND OUT WHO IS IN THE WRONG, WHAT HAPPENED, MYSTERY
SOLVED.
10:01:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
10:01:50AM >> HI, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KOLTEN ELLIOT.
I AM A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT ADVISOR FOR URGENCE.
I JUST WANT TO REINSTATE AND COME UPON THIS BOARD HERE, THE
TECHNOLOGY HAS PROVEN, AGAIN, WE DID A PILOT TEST IN
NEW YORK AND IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYERS ANY DOLLARS.
IN FACT, IT'S GOING TO SAVE THE CITY OF TAMPA, LET ALONE $10
MILLION ANNUALLY, AS WELL AS THIS TECHNOLOGY IS WAY BETTER
THAN LiDAR, THAN VISION THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED.
THIS IS THE FUTURE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT TAMPA IS RIGHT FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY WITH WAYMO, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES
ALREADY DEPLOYED THROUGH THE CITY, THIS HAS A MAJOR
APPLICATION FOR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, FOR TESLA.
THIS IS THE FUTURE, AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU GUYS
ARE HERE AND LISTENING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU ALL.
10:02:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LAST.
10:03:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DAMON HURLBERG.
MY BROTHERS AND I GREW UP IN SOUTH TAMPA, 1967 TO 1977, WHEN
IT WAS REALLY A VILLAGE.
ACTUALLY, MY BROTHER WROTE A SONG CALLED 813.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT, I RECOMMEND YOU CHECK IT OUT.

IT'S AWESOME.
GIVES YOU A REMINDER ABOUT THE DAYS WHEN YOU COULD RIDE YOUR
BICYCLES FROM SAN RAFAEL STREET TO ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL.
SPEND TIME IN THE BOYS CLUB.
AMAZING PLACE TO GROW UP.
THE BEACH WAS 25 MINUTES AWAY.
THIS TECHNOLOGY REALLY IS GOOD NEWS FOR TAMPA.
I HOPE WE LAUNCH HERE IN TAMPA FIRST.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT ARE GOING
TO BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
THIS IS MY HOME.
THIS IS WHERE I GREW UP.
AND I WANT TO SEE IT LAUNCH HERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF
FOLKS INTERESTED IN.
IF WE CAN SOMEHOW ALL GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO
KNOCK DOWN SOME OF THE DOORS AND GET THIS LAUNCHED AS FAST
AS POSSIBLE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO SAVE LIVES.
IT IS THE LIVES OF YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR
COMMUNITY, AND ALL THE 125 MILLION VISITORS THAT COME INTO
FLORIDA ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
JUST WANT TO -- I'M HOPING TAMPA GOES FIRST, SO LET'S SEE
HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:04:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN MICHELINI AND SANDY
SANCHEZ.
10:04:55AM >> HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
HELLO, MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I WILL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO GET STARTED WITH THE 1870s.
SO THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE BEATING OF
TOM CLARKE.
THE JAMES GETTIS COURT ALSO ADMINISTERED THE ROUGHEST SORT
OF JUSTICE TO AFRICAN AMERICANS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO
INDIVIDUALS WHO DEMANDED POLITICAL RIGHTS OR CRITICIZED THE
LOCAL POWER STRUCTURE.
SOME WERE TAKEN TO THE WHIPPING POST FOR THE MOST TRIVIAL
OFFENSES AND LASHED BY THE OFFICERS OF THE LAW UNTIL BLOOD
TRICKLED DOWN THEIR HEELS OR THRUST INTO THE PILLORY.
IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE WITH TOM CLARKE, HIS EARS WERE NAILED
TO A POST.
GETTIS DID NOT PERMIT CLARKE TO BRING IN A WITNESS.
HE WAS ACCUSED OF STEALING A GUN TUBE.
AND THIS TIME, THE JUDGE SENTENCED HIM TO RECEIVE 39 LASHES.
THE FORT BROOKE COMMANDER NOTED, JUDGING FROM THE CONDITION
OF HIS BACK, THE SENTENCE WAS EXECUTED IN A VERY BRUTAL
MANNER.

AND THIS WAS IN 1866.
RIGHT AFTER EMANCIPATION.
IN THE NEWSPAPER, HE GOES TO THE GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR REED AND
ASKED TO START A MILITIA HERE IN TAMPA.
HE ACTUALLY COMES BACK.
HE IS CHARGED WITH LARCENY AND HE COMES BACK WITH A STATE
UNIFORM ON CARRYING A CALVARY SABER, WHICH IS LIKE A SWORD.
IT SAID THAT HE WAS COMMISSIONED TO START A COMPANY HERE IN
TAMPA, FLORIDA.
HERE IS THE LIST OF THE 94 MEN, BLACK MEN THAT WERE A PART
OF THAT BLACK MILITIA.
IT WAS IN 1870.
SOME NAMES ARE MORE FAMILIAR THAN OTHERS.
I'M GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT THOMAS McKNIGHT.
HE WAS A LEADER BACK IN THOSE DAYS.
THERE'S NO PICTURE OF HIM, SO WE DON'T REALLY HEAR ABOUT HIM
A LOT.
BUT THIS IS HIS NAME RIGHT HERE.
HE IS A CAPTAIN.
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TOM CLARKE, THE ONE WHO GOT WHIPPED.
THOMAS McKNIGHT CAME FROM HERNANDO AS A LOT OF BLACK
LEADERS CAME FROM HERNANDO COUNTY AND MOVED TO TAMPA FOR THE
PROTECTION OF THE MILITARY THAT WAS HERE IN THIS AREA.
I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THE DATE.
AUGUST 27, 1870.

THAT NEXT MONTH, SEPTEMBER 11, 1870, THE FREEDMAN'S BUREAU
SCHOOL STARTED.
IT NEEDED TO BE STARTED IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME PROTECTION FOR
THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO START HERE IN TAMPA.
BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
FINALLY, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL A PROGRAM THAT MYSELF
AND GREEN BOOK TAMPA BAY, DR. HILLARY VAN DYKE AND DR.
SHERYL RODRIGUEZ ARE PUTTING ON AT C. BLYTHE ANDREWS JUNIOR
LIBRARY, A PUBLIC LIBRARY IN EAST TAMPA.
CALLED THE BEAT AT TAMPA BAY.
BLACK EMERGING TALKS OF TAMPA BAY.
WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT BLACK HISTORY IN TAMPA.
I THINK A LOT OF GROWTH COMES THROUGH PROGRAMMING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
10:07:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SANDY SANCHEZ AND THEN STEVE MICHELINI.
FOLLOWED BY POYNOR.
10:08:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
SANDY DEDIEGO SANCHEZ.
THIS PAST WEEK, I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL LISTING THE
DIFFICULTIES I HAD GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ALL THAT BECAUSE IT IS QUITE
LENGTHY.
PROBLEM WITH THE DELAYS ARE VERY, VERY EXTENSIVE.

THOSE THAT WANT TO COMPLY SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE MANY
CHALLENGES WITH THE PERMITTING SYSTEM.
I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT MR. MICHELINI'S SUGGESTION ON THE
CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
BUT ALONG WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A WORKSHOP THAT
WILL ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS
THAT THEY ARE HAVING.
OUR SITUATION, MY SITUATION, AND THE ONE MR. MICHELINI IS
REPRESENTING ARE NOT ISOLATED.
THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THESE SAME
PROBLEMS AND THEY GO ON DEAF EARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT MR. MICHELINI'S
REQUEST TO CHANGE, TO TRY AND REORGANIZE AND MAKE THE SYSTEM
MORE EFFICIENT.
THANK YOU.
10:09:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STEVE MICHELINI FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR, AND THAT IS
THE LAST COMMENT WE HAVE FOR TODAY.
10:09:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T HAVE A CARD FOR HIM, BUT IF HE'S
HERE, THEN THAT'S FINE.
GO AHEAD.
10:09:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
WHAT I HAD SAID TO YOU OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO INVOLVES
SUSPENDING -- SUSPENDING FINES WHILE YOU ARE IN THE CODE

ENFORCEMENT PROCESS AND TRYING TO CORRECT THE SITUATION.
IT'S NOT AS EASY TO GET OUT OF AS IT WAS REPRESENTED TO YOU.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET IN THIS FINE SITUATION, LIENS
ARE PLACED ON PROPERTIES QUICKLY WHILE YOU ARE IN EITHER A
REZONING OR A VARIANCE OR PERMITTING, AND YOU CAN'T JUST GO
TO THE HEARING AND SAY, PLEASE GIVE ME ANOTHER DATE OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT EASY.
IT REALLY IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.
I KNOW WHAT TO DO.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME.
I CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT IS FOR A LAY PERSON OR SOMEBODY ELSE
WHO IS NOT AS INFORMED OR NOT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
WE URGE YOU.
I KNOW YOU SET A WORKSHOP DATE FOR THIS TO COME BACK IN MAY.
BUT THE URGENCY OF THIS IS EXACERBATED BY THE AMOUNT OF
FINES AND THE LIENS THAT ARE PLACED ON PROPERTY.
I HAVE A DIFFERENT ISSUE I WANT TO SHOW YOU.
THIS IS LATE-NIGHT WORK THAT'S BEING CONDUCTED AND PROPERTY
IS BEING USED FOR STORAGE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
I WANT TO PLAY THIS FOR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR THAT?
10:11:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT WELL.
10:11:13AM >> THIS IS 10:
30 AT NIGHT.

PLATT AND FREMONT.
HEAVY EQUIPMENT, AND THE RESIDENTS THERE ARE COMPLAINING.
THERE ARE LIGHTS AND THESE BEEPERS.
I'VE TURNED THIS INTO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I'VE ALSO DISCUSSED IT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND TPD.
THEY ARE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.
ANYWAY, I'VE SENT YOU AN E-MAIL EARLIER REGARDING THIS AS
WELL.
BUT THIS IS GOING ON ALL NIGHT.
IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE CONSTRUCTION CODE, 7 P.M. IS THE
CUT-OFF AND 7 A.M. IS THE BEGINNING.
THERE ARE TWO VIDEOS.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE OTHER ONE.
THESE ARE ON DIFFERENT NIGHTS.
COME ON.
OH, WELL.
YOU GET THE IDEA.
FREMONT AND PLATT.
AND THERE IS PROBABLY A 30 OR 35-FOOT HIGH STOCKPILE OF DIRT
THAT THEY ARE ACCESSING, NO SILT BARRIERS.
10:12:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:42AM >> THANKS.
10:12:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:13:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE

PARKING FEES WENT UP.
DID ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
DID ANYBODY HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
THIS IS, OF COURSE, RHETORICAL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING OR HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
IF YOU KNEW ABOUT IT, GREAT, BUT THE CITIZENS WHO ARE COMING
AND PAYING TO PARK DOWN HERE ARE KIND OF UPSET ABOUT IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE RESOLUTION.
NUMBER 27, PALONIS PARK, THIS IS KIND OF MY BABY.
THIS IS AN AGENDA FOR THE GCA, FOR THE GANDY CIVIC
ASSOCIATION.
SEPTEMBER OF 2021 WHEN THEY GOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
THEY HAD IT STARTING IN APRIL OF 2021.
$2 MILLION WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BY THEA.
NOW, THIS WHAT GOT ALL THIS STIRRED UP.
WHEN I SAW THIS IN AUGUST, I WENT, WAIT A MINUTE, STILL FIVE
YEARS LATER, WE DON'T HAVE A PARK YET.
BUT YET THERE WAS NO PROJECTION TO SPEND ANY MONEY IN THAT
PARK FOR FIVE MORE YEARS.
SO I STARTED SCREAMING.
THERE WAS NO INTENTION OF SPENDING THAT MONEY.
NOW, I PULLED THIS MORNING OFF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PAGE.
IT SAYS, INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, TRAIL CONNECTION UNDER
THE GANDY BRIDGE, PASSIVE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES,
FISHING, PICNICKING, WALKING, KAYAK LAUNCHING, OTHER PATHS

OF RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
BOARDWALK, SHELTER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
SO WE GET DOWN HERE TO THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH I GOT ON
E-MAIL YESTERDAY, AND IT SAYS IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, IT SAYS
THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DOCK OR PIER, CONSIDERING WE
HAVE TWO PIERS IN SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY RIGHT NOW THAT
ARE COMPLETELY UNUSABLE.
BUT I LOVE THIS DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM, IT SAYS, THE
MODULAR BUILDING IS GOING TO BE -- IT'S A MODULAR BUILDING,
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE LIGHT FIXTURES.
YOU GET TO GO TO THE BATHROOM IN THE DARK.
THERE'S NO WATER FOUNTAINS.
REALLY?
IT'S HOT HERE.
YOU NEED WATER FOUNTAINS.
THIS IS WHAT IS LEFT.
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS?
THIS IS CRAP.
WE GOT SCREWED.
WE HAD $2 MILLION.
$2 MILLION IN 2021 MONEY WAS A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN IT IS
NOW.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET AMENITIES.
NOT ONLY WERE WE SUPPOSED TO GET THE AMENITIES IN THE LAST
FIVE YEARS, BUT WE HAD THAT PARK AND THE ONE TO THE NORTH OF

IT SHUT DOWN FOR FIVE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT BEFORE THEA.
WHY IS IT THAT THE MONEY WASN'T SPENT?
WE NEED ALL THE AMENITIES WE WERE PROMISED.
WE NEED THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS
WHAT WE WERE TOLD IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
EITHER THAT OR THEY ARE MAKING MR. THOMPSON INTO A LIAR
TODAY.
IT'S NOT FAIR.
WE PAY OVER $10 MILLION.
WE HAD A $10 MILLION JUMP WITH ALL THE EXTRA APARTMENTS THAT
WE HAVE DOWN HERE, AND YOU GUYS CAN'T FIND THE MONEY TO DO
THE RIGHT THING?
DO BETTER.
I KNOW IT'S NOT YOU.
I KNOW IT'S NOT COUNCIL.
10:16:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE WHO WALKED IN.
BEARING ANY -- OKAY.
GO.
TWO MORE SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU.
10:16:36AM >> SURGRET DOSS.
IN RECOGNITION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH AS WELL AND ACTUALLY
EVERY DAY IS BLACK HISTORY DAY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YOU ALL ARE THE DEVIL, BUT YOU ALL DAMN

SURE DOING HIS WORK.
FOR THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DIDN'T KNOW ON THE VERY SAME
MORNING THAT THE MAN WAS ARRESTED, THE CITY COUNCIL CANCELED
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
NO EXPLANATION WAS GIVEN AND PRETTY MUCH SAID, HEY, JUST GET
YOUR ASSES OUT OF HERE.
THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
I GUESS EVERYWHERE BUT TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, OF
COURSE, THE SECOND DCA AND 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, SUPPOSED
TO BE RULES THAT YOU ALL SUPPOSED TO ABIDE BY.
SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS, LATE GREAT JOE MADISON
AND GET IT WHERE THE GOATS CAN GET IT.
RULES ARE ACCOMPLISHED AND PLAYING FIELD LEVEL, WE KILL IT.
WHEN THEY CAN'T BEAT YOU, THEY GOING TO CHEAT YOU.
I GUESS ANOTHER TESTAMENT, SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS THAT THEY
THINK RECHARACTERIZED THE INDIVIDUALS THEY CLAIM TO WORSHIP
IS MORE PROOF OF THE HEINOUSNESS OF YOU PEOPLE SOMETIMES.
THEY EVEN REBRANDED WOKE.
WOKE WAS A WARNING WORD TO OUR COMMUNITY TO PEOPLE TRAVELING
AND DOING OTHER THINGS TO BE AWARE THAT THEY WILL HANG YOU
FROM TREES IN THIS NATION.
IF YOU ARE TRAVELING IN CERTAIN PLACES, BE AWARE OF SUN-DOWN
TIMES.
THAT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
SEE, MY FATHER JOINED THE MILITARY WHEN HE STILL WOULD HAVE

HAD TO SIT IN THE BACK OF A BUS.
IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, PEOPLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH
HOW CRUMP MAN APPROACHES THINGS.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR DAMN MIND IF A PERSON WHO LOOKS LIKE
ME AND WHO SERVED IN THIS NATION'S MILITARY AND HONORABLY
DISCHARGED, SAY IT'S OKAY FOR ANYBODY TO VIOLATE ANYBODY
ELSE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR
NOT.
BECAUSE THEY START WITH A LITTLE BIT AND THEN THEY TAKE A
LOT.
AND SO TEMPER YOURSELVES WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A GREAT
UNDERSTANDING OF THINGS.
I DO RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY TAKE THE TIME TO READ THAT
PARCHMENT THEY CALL THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
IT'S NOT MY FAULT IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO ATTEND THE GREATEST
INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:19:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
OUR LAST SPEAKER, SIR.
GENTLEMAN IN THE BEIGE --
10:19:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, PLEASE COME UP AND START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:19:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
MY NAME IS DAVID PHILIPSON.

I AM FROM BROOKSVILLE, FLORIDA.
I RECENTLY MOVED TO HILLSBOROUGH.
FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, THERE HAS BEEN A CONFEDERATE STATUE IN
BROOKSVILLE.
I SAW THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE A WOMAN BY THE NAME OF
ASHLEY MORROW, I BELIEVE HER NAME IS --
10:19:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
10:20:01AM >> OH, HELLO, BY THE WAY.
TALKED ABOUT THE MANOR HOUSE AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED IT
AND ALL THAT.
MY MAIN POINT IS THE MANOR HOUSE IN BROOKSVILLE GENERATES A
REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY.
IT IS ACTUALLY -- YES, IT IS TRUE THAT THE MANOR HOUSE
SERVES AS A VENUE FOR PARTIES AND WEDDINGS, AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
BUT IT IS USED, LIKE I SAID, TO GENERATE A REVENUE.
FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO LOOK
INTO, THE PROPERTY IN THE MANOR HOUSE ITSELF IS PROBABLY ON
THE LIST OF HISTORICAL PROPERTIES FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
YES, IT IS TRUE HERNANDO HAS A BIT OF A NASTY HISTORY.
BUT I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH IN HILLSBOROUGH, TOO.
NOW, THE ONE THING AT THE TIME SHE HAD MENTIONED, THE KLAN
ACTUALLY DID -- WAS HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH, TOO.
IT'S NOT JUST BROOKSVILLE.
BUT I'VE SEEN IN PAST YEARS PEOPLE WOULD PROTEST AND FIGHT

FOR THEIR SOUTHERN RIGHTS AND PRIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IT WAS ALL OVER TV MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
HISTORY IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.
THANK YOU.
10:21:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
OKAY.
MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT -- WE HAVE SOME BOARD AND
ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BOARD AND
ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENTS?
IF NOT, I THINK WE JUST --
10:22:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEMS 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
10:22:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DID WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BEFORE
WE MOVED.
I KNOW THESE ARE THE MAYOR'S CHOICES.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME CHOICES THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE.
IF ANYONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, I'M NOT -- COUNCIL
MEMBER CARLSON.
10:22:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THE
COMMITTEE, IT'S BEEN INACTIVE FOR A LONG TIME.
I MADE A MOTION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO PUT THE TREE FUND

UNDERNEATH THIS INSTEAD OF CREATING A NEW COMMITTEE FOR
TREES TO REACTIVATE THIS ONE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 16 OF OUR AGENDA, IT HAS A LISTING
OF THE OPEN POSITIONS, AND FOR SOME REASON THIS ONE IS NOT
ON IT, AT LEAST I DON'T SEE IT.
IF THERE ARE POSITIONS AVAILABLE THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN FILL,
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT AND NOTICE IT, BECAUSE SOMEHOW THE
MAYOR KNOWS TO FILL THEM BUT WE DON'T.
10:23:21AM >> COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WE DO HAVE POSITIONS OPEN.
THE REASON THEY ARE NOT ON THE LIST IS BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW
BOARD.
HOWEVER, COUNCIL WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A MEMO REGARDING
APPLICANTS ON FEBRUARY 19.
QUIWANAKI RAMSEY, ASSISTANT DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
10:23:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS A BOARD THAT'S BEEN INACTIVE.
ANYWAY, IF YOU ALL COULD ADD IT TO THE LIST, THE REASON IS
THAT THE PUBLIC READS THE LIST AND NOW YOU ALL KINDLY HAVE
ADDED THIS BECAUSE BEFORE WE DIDN'T KNOW --
10:23:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE JUST SAID THEY ARE BRINGING NOMINATIONS ON
THE 19th.
10:23:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ON THIS LIST.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, HOW WOULD PEOPLE KNOW TO -- HOW
WOULD PEOPLE KNOW TO APPLY?
PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED IN THE PAST THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO

FIND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WHAT POSITIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
SO THIS NOW, THE CLERK ADDED THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
THIS IS THE LIST PEOPLE WOULD KNOW.
IF YOU ALL SENT A MEMO TO CITY COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T
SEE IT.
10:24:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THESE OR WE DO ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT TO
TALK ABOUT BOARDS AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPOINTMENTS, DO WE
NOT?
10:24:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
GENERALLY IT'S DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE.
IT'S NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND DOES NOT SAY PUBLIC
COMMENT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO HANDLE IT.
THAT'S -- WE USED TO PLACE THIS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND
THEN ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE FINAL
ACTION ON IT.
WHAT HAPPENED IS WE MOVED IT ON THE AGENDA TO FOLLOW THE
PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC
COMMENT AGAIN.
10:25:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:25:10AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DON'T MIND.

10:25:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR TODAY
AND COUNCIL TAKES ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WAIVES ITS
RULES, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE POINT IS THE REASON IT WAS MOVED ON THE AGENDA TO
FOLLOW PUBLIC COMMENT IS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLIC
COMMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE -- THESE ITEMS WERE SUPPOSED TO
BE INCLUSIVE IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:25:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
DO WE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON IT?
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT, LET'S SAY ONE
FOR ALL OF THEM.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
10:25:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:25:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALSO NEED TO HANDLE THIS WITHIN OUR RULES.
10:25:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MEANING WHAT?
10:26:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE
ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THIS.
10:26:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CLEARLY THE ANSWER, COUNCIL -- I WILL
INCLUDE THAT IN MY COMMENTS.
10:26:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY POINT IS FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION
WHERE THEY BELIEVE THIS SHOULD GO IN THE FUTURE.

10:26:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SEE.
WELL, FINE.
THANK YOU.
10:26:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:26:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UP HERE AND SPOKE
AGAINST CANDIDATES FOR THE VRB.
I'VE BEEN UP HERE AND SPOKE AGAINST CANDIDATES FOR THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HAVE BEEN UP HERE AND SPOKE FOR CANDIDATES FOR THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS A NEW DISCUSSION TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'VE DONE
IT BEFORE, MANY TIMES, MANY, MANY TIMES.
OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT THIS LIST.
I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHO ARE THE FIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE
THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING FORWARD ON THE 19th.
FIRST THING I HEARD ABOUT IT.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS COMMITTEE ALONG
WITH TRYING TO GET THIS COMMITTEE TO MEET SINCE LIKE 2017.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MEETING TWICE A YEAR.
WHAT'S GONE ON WITH THIS?
I WANT TO KNOW WHY IN GOD'S NAME CITY COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE
THAT THEY GET FIVE CANDIDATES?
THAT MEANS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO COLLABORATE TO PUT PEOPLE ON

THE BOARD.
NORMALLY YOU GUYS GET SEVEN SEATS.
SO YOU'VE GOT SIX SEATS FOR THE MAYOR AND FIVE SEATS FOR
CITY COUNCIL.
THAT MATH DOESN'T MATH FOR ME.
I'M JUST SAYING.
I WANT TO KNOW WHO APPLIED FOR THE OTHER SEATS.
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT NOBODY THAT I KNOW,
NOBODY THAT CARROLL ANN BENNETT KNOWS IS GOING TO BE ON THAT
BOARD.
WHO IS IT?
THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
DO ANY OF YOU KNOW WHO IT IS?
JUST SAYING.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT KNOW AND I'M JUST STUPID AND OUT OF THE
LOOP, BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN THAT I AM COMPLETELY
CLUELESS ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT CARROLL ANN BENNETT
HAS BEEN POUNDING ON.
SHE'S GOT E-MAIL AFTER E-MAIL AFTER E-MAIL POUNDING ON THIS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE MET WITH CHIEF BENNETT ABOUT THIS
VERY SUBJECT, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO AT THE BLIND TIGER.
SO WE'VE HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF INPUT ON THIS, BUT I HAVE NO
CLUE WHO WILL BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
I HOPE THAT SOMEBODY UP THERE KNOWS WHO IS GOING TO BE ON
THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT -- OH, WAIT,

WAIT.
OH, MY GOD.
DO I NEED TO PULL PUBLIC RECORDS TO FIND OUT WHO HAS APPLIED
TODAY?
I GUESS I'LL GO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
NOW I'M --
10:28:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
10:28:34AM >> TARAH BLUMA.
I'M THRILLED THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS BEING RECONSTITUTED.
MUCH-NEEDED.
I AM ALSO CONFUSED AS TO WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS OPEN FOR
NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES.
I'M ALSO NOT AWARE OF THAT.
BUT I MAINLY WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I'M PRETTY SURE, FACT
CHECK ME ON THIS, THAT THESE SEATS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
STAGGERED AND THAT PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ROLLING OFF OF
THIS COMMITTEE EVERY YEAR.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE APPROVING PEOPLE TODAY FOR ALL
THE EXACT SAME TERM.
SOMEBODY SHOULD CHECK THAT.
THANK YOU.
10:29:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:29:23AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WELL, I DID ASK A FEW QUESTIONS DURING THE
BRIEFING.
I WANTED TO AT LEAST SEE, YOU KNOW, THE RESUM S OR ANYTHING
OF WHO WAS APPLYING.
I DID SEE SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS.
I THINK ONE OF THEM WASN'T COMPLETELY FILLED OUT ALL THE
WAY.
I DID ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE STAGGERING OF THE
TERMS.
I WAS TOLD THAT THEY WOULD GET BACK TO ME ON THAT
INFORMATION.
OBVIOUSLY, I WASN'T HERE IN 2017 WHEN THE CONVERSATION
SURROUNDING THIS WAS HAPPENING.
BUT I DID HAVE SOME INITIAL THOUGHTS ABOUT.
AND I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO AT LEAST HAVE THEM HERE TO SPEAK
OR TO --
10:30:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT LOOKS LIKE MS. PETTIS-MACKLE.
10:30:22AM >> CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, YES, THIS RESOLUTION WAS PASSED PRIOR TO
YOU JOINING CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT WAS RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-866.
I HAVE THAT HERE.
I CAN E-MAIL YOU A COPY OF IT, BUT THESE ARE THE TERMS IN

WHICH THE MEMBERS -- THE MEMBERSHIP IS GOVERNED BY.
IT'S IN SUBSECTION C.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S STAGGERED THREE-YEAR TERMS.
IT'S ON YOUR AGENDA.
YOU ARE ONLY APPROVING ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX
PEOPLE.
CITY COUNCIL HAS YOUR OWN MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE TO SELECT TO
JOIN THIS COMMITTEE.
SO THERE WILL BE STAGGERED TERMS.
THESE ARE JUST THE FIRST GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ON THIS
COMMITTEE.
BUT THERE WILL BE STAGGERED TERMS ONCE CITY COUNCIL
COMPLETES YOUR APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
THERE WILL BE STAGGERED TERMS, BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE THE
SAME TERMS AS THE PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE APPROVING IF YOU CHOOSE
TO APPROVE TODAY.
10:31:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO THE GROUPS OF APPOINTMENTS ARE STAGGERED,
NOT EACH.
BECAUSE IT SAYS THE TERMS OF EACH MEMBER SHALL BE STAGGERED
THREE-YEAR TERMS.
SO THAT WOULD BE EACH PERSON, RIGHT?
10:31:54AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
NOT EACH PERSON.
YOU'D WANT THE COMMITTEE TO NOT HAVE PEOPLE -- YOU WANT --
YOU ALWAYS WANT PEOPLE TO BE A PART OF THE COMMITTEE,
CORRECT?

SO IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT
TERMS.
THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TODAY WILL HAVE A TERM
AS -- THE TERMS OF THE MEMBERS OR THE PUBLIC WHO APPLY TODAY
WILL BE FROM FEBRUARY 5, 2026, TO FEBRUARY 4, 2029.
IF CITY COUNCIL COMPLETES THIS PROCESS OF SELECTING YOUR OWN
MEMBERS, THEY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT TERMS OTHER THAN THE TERMS
OF THE PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE APPROVING TODAY.
THEY WON'T BE FROM FEBRUARY 5th, 2026 TO FEBRUARY 4th,
2029, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE YET.
THEY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT TERMS.
10:32:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THAT'S ONLY LIKE A MONTH OR TWO APART.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
THEY ARE NOT STAGGERED.
10:33:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
AM I --
10:33:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I'M WITH YOU.
10:33:09AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
THE FIRST LINE, IT SAYS THE TERMS OF EACH MEMBER SHALL BE
STAGGERED THREE-YEAR TERMS.
SO IN MY MIND -- MAYBE I'M NOT --
10:33:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF SIX START TODAY, THEN -- YEAH, HOW IS THAT
STAGGERED?
SORRY.

GO AHEAD.
10:33:39AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO FORM MY THOUGHTS.
10:33:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE?
10:33:45AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
RESOLUTION.
10:33:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO, AS A RESOLUTION, WE CAN CHANGE THE
RESOLUTION, CORRECT?
10:33:50AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF CITY
COUNCIL.
10:33:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SPEND A LITTLE
MORE TIME ON THIS AND POSSIBLY CHANGE THE RESOLUTION.
SO I WILL ACCEPT SOME TYPE OF MOTION, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
FORMULATE SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC.
10:34:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION OF APPROVAL, BUT
ALSO THESE FEBRUARY 19 CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, WHO ARE
THEY?
WHAT ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS?
10:34:16AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
10:34:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THE PROCESS OPEN AT THAT TIME?
10:34:20AM >> I DO HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CITY STAFF HANDLED THAT MEDIA
RELEASE THAT SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR
APPLICATIONS.
THE APPLICATION PROCESS THEN CLOSED AND WE VETTED AND
VERIFIED USING BACKGROUND SCREENING.

FROM THAT LIST, THE MAYOR CHOSE HER SELECTIONS, AND THE
REMAINING IS SCHEDULED TO COME TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 19.
THAT MEMO WOULD BE COMING OUT TOMORROW.
10:34:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:34:51AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SORRY.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN DID IT GO OUT?
10:34:56AM >> THE MEMO WILL BE COMING OUT TOMORROW.
10:34:58AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO, WHEN --
10:35:00AM >> I HAVE NO FURTHER INFORMATION OTHER THAN THE CITY
DEPARTMENT, STAFF DEPARTMENT USED THAT.
10:35:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I SUGGEST --
10:35:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENT WENT
OUT THAT WE WERE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD?
10:35:12AM >>THE CLERK:
NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
10:35:15AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO WHEN IT IS TIME FOR COUNCIL TO PICK OUR
SIX, WE HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM THE REMAINING APPLICANTS?
SO WE DON'T GET TO.
10:35:27AM >>THE CLERK:
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ARE FORCED TO CHOOSE FROM
THAT LIST.
THAT IS A LIST WE HAVE THAT ARE VERIFIED.
10:35:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY.
10:35:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS TO
APPOINTMENTS TO A BOARD THAT IT WANTS TO CREATE AND HAVE ITS
OWN APPOINTEES.
CLEARLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS RIPE, BUT A LOT OF

QUESTIONS ARE ALSO RAISED.
I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, COUNCIL, THAT ON PAGE 16 OF YOUR
AGENDA, THERE ARE LISTS OF OPEN BOARDS AND COMMISSION
POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I SEE THIS
BOARD LISTED THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY OR HOW COUNCIL WOULD HAVE ANY INDICATION
THAT ON FEBRUARY 19, YOU WOULD BE PICKING APPOINTMENTS TO A
BOARD FROM A POOL THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN AWARE OF.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS TO PUT IT ON FOR A FUTURE AGENDA FOR
DISCUSSION, HAVE THE RESOLUTION, HAVE THE AD THAT WENT OUT.
HAVE THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE TASKED WITH SOLICITING FOR
THIS WITHOUT COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL AND PERHAPS YOU
CAN GO FURTHER FROM THERE.
10:36:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE ABILITY, WE HAVE ROOM ON THE MARCH 26
AGENDA, IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
10:36:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE THING?
10:36:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:36:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE
PEOPLE SAY TAMPA HAS A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THE MAYOR IS ONLY -- THE CHARTER
ACTUALLY HAS A BALANCE OF POWER.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT SOME MAYOR OFFICES USURP CITY COUNCIL
POWERS.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE.
LAST SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, THIS

ADMINISTRATION HAS TRIED TO USURP CITY COUNCIL POWERS BY
PUTTING PEOPLE THEY LIKE IN CONTROL ON THE COMMITTEES.
COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE ETHICS
COMMITTEE, ANOTHER BIG PROBLEM.
THEY USE A WEAPON AGAINST CITY COUNCIL AND PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CHARTER TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
I THINK EVERY COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE EITHER TWO OR FOUR
APPOINTEES BY THE MAYOR AND ONE EACH BY CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT HAPPENS, THE WAY THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CONTROLS IT IS
IF THERE ARE FEWER THAN SEVEN, IF WE EACH CAN'T APPOINT ONE,
ISN'T THE CASE IN MOST COMMITTEES, THEN SUDDENLY A LISTS
POPS UP.
DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM, UNLESS A LONG DISCUSSION.
TURNS OUT, CAME FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, PEOPLE THEY
RECRUIT.
IF WE DON'T EACH HAVE AN APPOINTEE IT TURNS OUT THAT THE
MAYOR CONTROLS ALL OF THESE.
THE PUBLIC WANTS A BALANCE OF POWER.
DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
ALSO, MY COLLEAGUE SAID SHE WAS BRIEFED ON THIS.
E-MAIL AND SAY PUBLICLY AGAIN, I EXPECT TO BE BRIEFED JUST
LIKE ANYBODY ELSE ON ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP.
I REFUSE, I STOPPED MEETING WITH THE MAYOR'S POLITICAL
ADVISOR SIX YEARS AGO OR SO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO

MEET WITH SOMEONE WHO IS COUNTING VOTES AND WHO HAS BEEN
INVESTIGATED BY THE TAMPA BAY TIMES FOR STIRRING UP CONFLICT
ON CITY COUNCIL.
BUT I DO EXPECT TO MEET WITH THE ADMINISTRATORS WHO HAVE
POLICY CONTENT.
AND MOST OF THEM DO CONTACT ME AND REACH OUT TO ME.
BUT THE FACT THAT APPARENTLY AT LEAST ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES
WAS BRIEFED AND I WASN'T MEANS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS
SELECTIVELY EXCLUDING PEOPLE WHICH, AGAIN, IS AGAINST THE
CHARTER AND IS AGAINST THE INTENTION OF THE PUBLIC.
IT'S AGAINST TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN OUR
GOVERNMENT.
I MAKE A MOTION --
10:38:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID YOU WANT TO --
10:38:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MAKE A MOTION THAT -- YES, MA'AM.
10:38:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD A QUESTION.
I THOUGHT YOU GOT THAT DURING YOUR REGULAR BRIEFING.
IS THAT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT IT?
10:39:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ABOUT WHAT?
10:39:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN YOU HAD QUESTIONS, DID YOU DO THAT
DURING YOUR REGULAR BRIEFING OR SEPARATE BRIEFING?
10:39:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
REGULAR.
10:39:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY POINT IS SIX YEARS AGO, I STOPPED THOSE
BECAUSE THE MAYOR HAS HER POLITICAL ADVISOR RUNNING IT.
I DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MAYOR'S POLITICAL

DIRECTIVES AND ACTIVITIES.
I WANT TO GET BRIEFED ON POLICY.
I'VE SENT OUT MEMOS AND OTHER THINGS.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN SAYING THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS
I REFUSE TO GET BRIEF.
NO, I REFUSE TO SIT IN A BRIEFING CONTROLLED BY THE MAYOR'S
POLITICAL ADVISOR WHEN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES PULLED PUBLIC
RECORDS AND FOUND TEXT MESSAGES THAT THAT PERSON AND
COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR SENT TO CITY COUNCIL STIRRING UP
CONFLICT ON CITY COUNCIL WHILE WE'RE SITTING IN MEETINGS.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE WITH ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE
THEM.
THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES AS WELL.
MY POINT IS THERE'S NO REGULAR BRIEFING IF THE MAYOR IS
USING IT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, WE NEED TO HAVE
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES FROM AND POLICY UPDATES, NOT
POLITICAL UPDATES.
THANK YOU.
10:40:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION?
10:40:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS SAY, I LOVE THIS JOB
BUT I HATE THE POLITICS.
I KNOW WHAT I GOT MYSELF INTO.
ANYWAYS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE OR CONTINUE
ITEMS 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND 8 UNTIL MARCH 26 OF 2026.

AND THEN IN THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THIS BOARD
AS TO STAGGERING THE TERMS.
IF IT IS GOING TO BE 11 SEATS TOTAL, HOW WE STAGGER THOSE IN
RESPONSE TO SOME CONCERNS, BUT ALSO GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
IF WE CAN PUT THIS UNDER -- IS IT A REGULAR MEETING OR
WORKSHOP?
10:40:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S A REGULAR MEETING.
10:40:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE CAN PUT IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS SO
WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROCESS WITH WHICH
THIS WAS ADVERTISED.
AGAIN, IF WE LOOK AT THE END OF THIS AGENDA, IT SHOWS YOU A
LIST OF AVAILABLE BOARDS.
BUT THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED TO ADVERTISE THIS, WHO THE
APPLICANTS ARE AND WHATNOT, BECAUSE I'M LEFT IN THE DARK.
FEBRUARY 19 COMES AROUND, AND IT'S GOING TO BE NEW TO US OR
A WEEK BEFORE.
THAT'S MY MOTION THAT WE HAVE THIS UNDER STAFF REPORTS AS A
CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND IN THAT, CONTINUE ITEMS 3
THROUGH 8 AND WAIT FOR ANY FURTHER APPROVAL.
10:41:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A SECOND -- I HAVE A MOTION FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
MR. SHELBY FIRST.
THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD ASK FOR A FOLLOW-UP MOTION SO THE

ITEMS PREPARED FOR NEXT WEEK, COME --
10:41:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S IN MY HEAD.
10:41:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THIS ISN'T ON THE CITY WEBSITE EITHER, SO THE
PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
CONTINUING THESE ITEMS UNTIL A MONTH AFTER?
BECAUSE THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, DISCUSS THE
CHANGES WE NEED TO MAKE TO THE RESOLUTION.
10:42:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE AN APRIL DATE?
10:42:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THROW OUT TO EVERYBODY --
10:42:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE'S LIKE THE 17th.
10:42:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IDEA IS WE WOULD HAVE ONE DATE WHERE WE
DISCUSS THE RESOLUTION, ASK STAFF TO FIX IT.
AND THEN LATER WE WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
APPLICANTS.
10:42:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THAT IS THE MOTION, BUT AS PART OF
THIS MOTION, MOVE ITEMS 3 THROUGH 8 TO APRIL 16, WHICH IS A
REGULAR SESSION.
10:42:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S SEPARATE THE TWO.
10:42:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU'LL START WITH MOVING THOSE TO APRIL AND
THEN COME BACK?
10:42:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
10:42:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SCRATCH EVERYTHING.
I'LL START AGAIN.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEMS 3 THROUGH 8
TO THE APRIL 16 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
10:42:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
UNDER BOARDS AND APPOINTMENTS.
10:42:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
UNDER BOARDS AND APPOINTMENTS RIGHT
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:42:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I STILL HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
CAN YOU ALSO MOVE NEXT WEEK'S WHILE WE'RE HERE?
10:43:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
CONTINUE THE CITY COUNCIL NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY
COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS FROM FEBRUARY 19 TO APRIL 16 UNDER
BOARDS AND APPOINTMENTS ALONG WITH --
10:43:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION, IF I CAN.
10:43:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I NEED A SECOND.
10:43:18AM >> SECOND.
10:43:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
YES, MR. SHELBY.
10:43:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE
DISCUSSION IN MARCH.
10:43:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO.
10:43:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO APRIL.

10:43:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SAME DAY.
NOW I UNDERSTAND.
10:43:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION MOVING FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:43:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE FINAL MOTION IS THAT ON MARCH 26 OF
2026, UNDER STAFF REPORTS, THAT CITY COUNCIL HAVE A
DISCUSSION REGARDING HOW THIS WAS ADVERTISED, MEANING THE
NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHO THE APPLICANTS
WERE, THE APPLICATIONS, AND WHAT -- WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
10:44:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
10:44:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'M SORRY.
AND HOW WE STAGGER THE TERMS.
10:44:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
YOU HAVE YOUR MIKE ON.
10:44:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY.
10:44:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M ALL FOR THIS BUT YOU HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL WHEN YOU HAVE STAGGERED TERMS.
WE OURSELVES IN GOVERNMENT DON'T HAVE STAGGERED TERMS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
10:44:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

I WOULD SAY THAT ONE THING THAT'S NOT ON THERE THAT I WOULD
LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE
RESOLUTION AS A WHOLE AND POSSIBLY CHANGING THE RESOLUTION.
10:44:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REGARDING HOW TO STAGGER THE TERMS?
10:44:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STAGGERING THE TERMS, APPOINTEES BY COUNCIL.
JUST LIKE A FULL, ROBUST DISCUSSION.
10:44:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A BROADER DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION
ITSELF AND THE APPOINTMENT AND SELECTION PROCESS.
10:45:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
10:45:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, NONE.
10:45:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT DATE DID WE PICK FOR THAT?
10:45:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MARCH 26.
10:45:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON THE APRIL 23rd WORKSHOP, WE HAVE
COUNCIL DISCUSS AS TO WHETHER TO ASSIGN OVERSIGHT OF THE
TREE TRUST FUND TO THE CITY'S NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE.
WE CAN LEAVE IT ON THERE, I GUESS, UNLESS YOU WANT TO
DISCUSS IT ON THE OTHER DAY.
10:45:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, I THINK IT IS A GOOD -- OKAY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MR. SHELBY.
10:45:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
ON THE MARCH DATE, I'M ALSO GOING TO, JUST FOR YOUR
INFORMATION AND PERHAPS YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS FURTHER ON
DOWN THE ROAD, RULE 8 OF YOUR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE IS
ENTITLED FILLING VACANCIES TO VARIOUS BOARDS.
THERE IS A PROCESS DEFINED THERE.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF
THAT ALSO MIGHT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT ABOUT HOW THAT PROCESS
IS, IN FACT, WORKING.
10:46:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION POSSIBLY
ADDING IT TO THE MARCH 26 AGENDA?
10:46:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OR I COULD SEND IT OUT TO YOU THAT DATE AND
COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
10:46:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
10:46:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
10:46:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID WE APPROVE THAT?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
EXCELLENT.
LET'S MOVE ALONG.
PUBLIC SAFETY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:46:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HEREBY MOVE 9 THROUGH 13.
10:46:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE,
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:46:59AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 14 THROUGH 22.
10:47:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 14 THROUGH 22.
I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE
CAPITAL, I DO SUPPORT THIS, ONLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IS A NEW, LIKE, SORT OF TOP GOLF
SORT OF THING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THEM MONEY.
SO IDEALLY, THEY WON'T HAVE TO COME TO US FOR ANY MONEY IN
THE FUTURE AS THIS GOES FORWARD.
I DO SUPPORT THAT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:47:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 23 THROUGH 27, BUT 27
IS A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
SO IT'S CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
10:47:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ITEM 27, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AN UPDATE ABOUT PARKS AND
PIERS FROM MR. FOWLER.
10:48:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT TO HOLD IT?
10:48:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD 27 UNTIL WE HEARD FROM
MR. FOWLER.
I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING DONE SO DURING --
10:48:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL THEN MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS
23 THROUGH 26 AND 27, PULL IT FOR LATER DISCUSSION AND
POSSIBLE APPROVAL AFTER WE HEAR FROM MR. FOWLER.
10:48:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU PREFER TO HAVE THOSE SEPARATED?
NO.
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION -- A NEW MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOVING ONLY ITEMS 23 THROUGH 26.
OKAY.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:48:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 32 THROUGH 36.
10:48:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE NEXT, 28 THROUGH
30.
10:48:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
28 THROUGH 30, MOVE.
10:48:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
NOW, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 32 THROUGH 36.
10:49:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION MOVING ITEMS 31 THROUGH 36.
I'M SORRY.
31 WAS MOVED.
32 THROUGH 36.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MR. MANISCALCO.
10:49:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEMS 37-38.
10:49:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE
ITEMS 37 AND 38.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
10:49:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO SET ITEM 39 PUBLIC HEARING MARCH
5, 2026 AT 1:30 P.M., CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, 33602.
10:49:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
NOW WE HAVE OUR WALK-ON.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE?
10:49:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON IT,
COUNCIL.
10:50:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD STILL LIKE SOMEBODY FROM
ADMINISTRATION HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
10:50:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I GUESS WE ARE MOVING QUICKLY.
WE CAN HOLD THAT.
10:50:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
10:50:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THESE ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 40 THROUGH 47, ANY ITEM,
40 TO 47, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN
IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:50:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SEE MR. MASSEY IS HERE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO BACK TO OUR WALK-ON WHILE WE HAVE A

MOMENT.
10:50:50AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I APOLOGIZE.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING AN EXISTING ORDINANCE THAT YOU
HAVE RELATIVE TO THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO DEFEND ELECTED
OFFICIALS.
I THINK IT'S PRETTY SELF-EVIDENT.
SUPPOSED TO EXTEND CITY COUNCIL SITS AS CRA BOARD AS WELL AS
CITY COUNCIL.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS WOULD BE FIRST READING.
IT WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND WILL BE
PUBLICLY NOTICED BEFORE IT IS ADOPTED.
10:51:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW -- MARTIN
SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THE TITLE FOR THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING IS ON YOUR
ADDENDUM.
10:51:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:51:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
I DID HAVE A BRIEFING ON THIS.
THANK YOU TO SCOTT AND MR. MORRIS.
I WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE A CRA MEETING COMING
UP, AND WE KEEP BUMPING THE CONTRACT WITH THE CRA AND THE
CITY.

WE NEED TO NOT SIGN THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
WE NEED TO AMEND IT.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE CRA BOARD TO SIGN THE CONTRACT
NOW.
WE NEED TO USE THAT LEVERAGE THAT THE CONTRACT IS OUT OF
DATE TO NEGOTIATE WHAT WE WANT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING WOULD BE IN THE CHANGE
TO THAT CONTRACT.
IN MEETING WITH MORRIS AND SCOTT, I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID
IT THIS WAY.
BUT PLEASE, THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY THAT EXISTING
CONTRACT PUTS THE CRA BOARD AT A DISADVANTAGE AND LEAVES THE
CITY IN COMPLETE CONTROL.
SO, PLEASE, I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, PLEASE READ THROUGH
THE VERSION THAT I DID.
EDIT IT HOWEVER YOU WANT.
IF WE APPROVE THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THE CRA, THERE ARE
OTHER THINGS LIKE THIS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED THAT ARE BAD
FOR THE CRA BOARD.
10:52:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. MASSEY, DID WE NOT ALREADY APPROVE THAT?
10:52:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I BELIEVE THE SERVICES AGREEMENT HAS BEEN
CONTINUED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
10:52:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT WAS THE MEETING THAT WE CANCELED.
10:52:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I NEED A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.

10:52:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF CITY LEGAL FOR JUMPING ON
THIS.
WHEN YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY AND 1% CHANCE OF SOMETHING BAD
HAPPENING, YOU SPEND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF YOUR TIME WORKING
ON IT.
YOU ALL ARE PROFESSIONALS AND HARD WORKERS.
THANK YOU.
10:53:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:53:14AM >> THIS WILL BE FIRST READING.
READ THE TITLE.
10:53:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:53:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:53:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
WE ALLOW -- IT IS SPECIFICALLY IN OUR RULES TO ALLOW PUBLIC
COMMENT DURING A FIRST READING.
10:53:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
THERE IS A MOTION TO THAT.
10:53:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT
THIS, PLEASE COME ON UP.
STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:53:41AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, I SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK IT'S A BRILLIANTLY IDEA.
I'M WONDERING WHY IN THE HELL IT HADN'T BEEN DONE A LONG,

LONG TIME AGO.
ANYTHING YOU DO BECAUSE OF THE CITY SHOULD BE COVERED, AND
WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS
WHO WERE SUED INDIVIDUALLY AND THE CITY DIDN'T HELP THEM OUT
UNTIL AFTERWARDS.
YOU GUYS DESERVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS THAT YOU CAN GET
BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING A REALLY, REALLY HARD JOB.
IT'S NOT PART-TIME, BY THE WAY.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:54:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE?
DO WE NEED TO CLOSE?
10:54:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT
THAT'S FINE.
I'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE UPDATE --
10:54:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL READ IT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE
DISCUSSION.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION

2-234 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE ENTITLED REPRESENTATION AND
REIMBURSEMENT IN THE DEFENSE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO
INCLUDE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTING IN THEIR CAPACITY AS
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD, MEMBERS IN THE
DEFINITION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, PROVIDING FOR POSSIBLE
REIMBURSEMENT TO THE CITY BY THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY FOR LEGAL FEES AND COSTS INCURRED BY THE CITY IN
REPRESENTING COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD MEMBERS;
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:55:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY COMMENT?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE READ THE VOTE AND SECOND READING INFORMATION.
10:55:28AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN
ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026 AT
10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:55:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM NUMBER 40.
10:55:55AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE
WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:55:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST ONE MOMENT.
10:56:00AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2539 WEST CHERRY STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED
USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED
TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:56:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 40?
EXCELLENT.
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN YET.
MR. RAMSEY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
IF ANYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SPEAK TODAY DURING THE PUBLIC -- AND
HASN'T BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
TO BE SWORN IN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:56:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:56:57AM >> ALEX RIOS.
WE UPDATED OUR DRAWINGS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE ELEVATIONS PER
THE COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE THE STRONGER CRITICISM ON IT.
I THINK IT WAS WELL WARRANTED.
I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT IT AND HOPE TO GET YOUR CONTINUED
APPROVAL.
10:57:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE?
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WILL YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER 40.
10:57:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 2539 WEST CHERRY STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
SEMI-DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:58:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS LEFT.
10:58:19AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CLENDENIN
ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:58:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
10:58:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:58:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 41.
10:58:40AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 41 REZ-25-91, REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 2704 WEST PALMETTO STREET.
REQUEST TO REZONE IS FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S
OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:59:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS?

ANYONE HERE FOR ITEM 41?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 41?
10:59:13AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:59:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:59:24AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ-25-91, RESOLUTION APPROVING A BONUS
--
10:59:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE DOING ORDINANCE.
10:59:34AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SORRY.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2704 WEST PALMETTO STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:00:05AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CLENDENIN

ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:00:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:00:15AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:00:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM NUMBER 42.
11:00:23AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER
DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 42 IS REZ-25-100.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2707
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2334 WEST ST. LOUIS STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 AND CI TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE,
AS WELL AS ALL CG USES.
WE VISIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I SHOULD SAY REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED
PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:01:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
FOR ITEM NUMBER 42.
11:01:08AM >> GOOD MORNING.

SAM AREFF.
I SECOND WHAT HE SAID.
I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF FOR THEIR
SUPPORT.
IT JUST MADE THE PROJECT MORE BEAUTIFUL.
11:01:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 42?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
11:01:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2334 WEST SAINT LOUIS STREET AND
2707 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CI
COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT,
RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, ALL CG USES, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:02:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:02:12AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND CLENDENIN
ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:02:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 43.
11:02:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 43 IS REZ-25-107.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3208 AND 3210 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE CHANGES DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, ALONG WITH A NOTE
ADDRESSING THE ELEVATIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:03:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
11:03:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JAMES LASCARA, APPLICANT.
APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM FIRST SESSION.
EXCITED TO RECEIVE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AT FIRST HEARING.
MADE UPDATES TO RENDERINGS AND ELEVATIONS AS REQUESTED.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:03:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM
NUMBER 43?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
FILE -- 43, FILE REZ-25-107, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3208 AND 3210 NORTH TAMPA STREET
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:03:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:04:09AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN AND
CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:04:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 44.

11:04:16AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 44 IS REZ-25-110.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3219 WEST ARCH STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT, I BELIEVE I SEE AN APPLICANT ON THE SCREEN.
MR. HENRY.
IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE, AND BE SWORN IN.
11:04:57AM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:05:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.
PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
CANNOT HEAR YOU.
11:05:24AM >> THERE WE GO.
11:05:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE YOU ARE.
MR. HENRY.
11:05:29AM >> HELLO.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
HENRY, DOMAIN HOMES, 3104 -- SUITE 2, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33603.
HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
11:05:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
OKAY.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 44?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:06:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 3219 WEST ARCH STREET, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:06:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

MISSING ONE.
TRY AGAIN.
EVERYBODY RECORD A VOTE.
11:06:46AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON AND
CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:06:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:06:55AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 45 IS REZ-25-111.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
802 AND 804 EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND 3003 NORTH MITCHELL
AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
SINCE THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE ARE NO SITE PLANS.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:07:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CATHERINE COYLE, BOGS ENGINEERING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:07:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.

ANYONE -- ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 45?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
I HAVE A NOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:07:53AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER REZ-25-111, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 802 AND 804
EAST FLORIBRASKA AVENUE AND 3003 NORTH MITCHELL AVENUE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:08:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:08:42AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN AND
CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:08:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 46.
11:08:50AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 46 IS REZ-25-117.

THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4202 WEST SPRUCE STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO ADDED A NOTE REGARDING THE HEIGHT AS
PROPOSED.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
11:09:29AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
AS STEPHANIE MENTIONED, WE MADE THE CHANGES BETWEEN READINGS
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 46?
11:09:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. SANCHEZ HAS THREE NAMES.
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.
LEOBA LEOLITA.
WELL, THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE.
MIRIAM ARVANITAS AND ROBIN LOCKETT.
THAT'S THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF 6.
11:10:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
YES, MS. SANCHEZ.

MR. SHELBY, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF?
SIX MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS SANDRA DEDIEGO SANCHEZ.
IN APRIL OF 2025, THE CARVER CITY, LINCOLN GARDENS COMMUNITY
CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THEIR CONCERNS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AND
THEIR HOMES REGARDING THE SAME PROJECT.
LAST YEAR, THE REZONING FAILED.
TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND OVERBUILDING, WHICH INCLUDE 1500 UNITS
THAT ARE PRESENTLY BEING BUILT WITHIN THE CARVER CITY,
LINCOLN GARDENS PROPERTY.
THE MAIN CONCERN IS THE GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING REPORT THAT
THE DEVELOPER ORDERED AND PAID FOR WHICH IS NOT IN THE FILE.
THIS PROPERTY HAS NOT CHANGED.
THAT REPORT IS STILL GOOD FOR THIS PROPERTY.
NOT SURE WHY THEY DECIDED NOT TO ADD IT, EXCEPT THAT THERE
ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD IS SAME AS LAST YEAR.
THE PROPERTY IS ON A LAND FILL AND AS ARE MANY OF THE HOMES.
MANY OF THE RESIDENTS, INCLUDING RECENT BUYERS, WERE NEVER
TOLD, BUT THE DEVELOPER KNOWS.
THE DEVELOPER IS AWARE THAT THERE IS DOCUMENTATION SHOWING
HOW MANY OF THE HOMES HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLAGUED WITH
FOUNDATION ISSUES.

IT'S NOT CHEAP TO HAVE THE FOUNDATIONS REPAIRED.
THE EXISTING HOMES ARE FRAGILE.
THE RESIDENTS FEAR FOR THE SAFETY OF THEIR HOMES, A MAJOR
INVESTMENT FOR THEM.
THIS IS PART SPEAK OF MANY TIMES AS THE MISSING MIDDLE.
SHOULD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BE PUT IN DANGER.
I HAVE GIVEN YOU A SUMMARY OF THE REPORT.
I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE OF ISSUES, AND I WANT TO JUST
MENTION A COUPLE OF REMARKS.
ON PAGE 2, IT GIVES A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE REPORT WAS
DONE FOR.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR-STORY WOOD FRAME AND HAVE
OFFICE BUILDINGS AND A GARAGE.
THE PLANS HAVE CHANGED.
ON PAGE 6, I WOULD LIKE TO READ TO YOU, SHOULD CONSIST OF
COMPACTION WITH VIBRATOR COMPACTOR AT THE FINAL CUT OF
EXISTING STRIP GRADE ELEVATION, WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
THE COMPACTOR SHOULD BE OPERATED AT A SLOW WALKING PACE AND
AT LEAST A TOTAL OF TEN PASSES.
DIRECTION OF THE -- CARE SHOULD BE USED, AND THIS IS THE
IMPORTANT PART -- FOR OPERATING THIS COMPACTOR NEAR THE
EXISTING STRUCTURES TO AVOID TRANSMISSION OF VIBRATIONS THAT
COULD CAUSE SETTLEMENT DAMAGE OR DISTURB THE OCCUPANTS.
STATIC MODE ROLLING COMPACTOR SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ADJACENT
IN THIS -- VISUAL SURVEY OF NEARBY EXISTING BUILDINGS PRIOR

TO COMPACTION SHOULD BE DONE.
ON PAGE 8, AT THE BOTTOM, THE SCOPE OF OUR SERVICES -- THIS
IS FROM THE ENGINEERING COMPANY, DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR INVESTIGATION FOR THE PRESENCE
OF ABSENCE OF WETLAND, HAZARD OR TOXIC MATERIALS IN THE
SOIL, GROUNDWATER, OR SURFACE WATER WITHIN OR BEYOND THE
SITE STUDIED.
ANY STATEMENT IN THIS REPORT REGARDING ODORS RETAINING OR
SOIL OR OTHER UNUSUAL CONDITIONS, STRICTLY FOR THE
INFORMATION OF OUR CLIENT.
I AM ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO SUBMIT THE COMPLETE
GEOTECHNICAL REPORT AS IT SHOULD BE USED WHEN THEY PROCEED
INTO PERMITTING.
THE REPORT WAS NOT SUBMITTED WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN, NOR
WAS IT SUBMITTED FOR THE FINAL DESIGN.
THE PROPERTY HAS NOT CHANGED AND THE REPORT WOULD BE
CURRENT.
ALSO, WHICH IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED, IS THE DEMOLITION OF
THE CURRENT BUILDINGS WHICH WILL TAKE HEAVY EQUIPMENT TO
DEMOLISH.
THEIR PROPOSAL, SAME LAND FILL.
WHAT JEOPARDIZES THE COMMUNITY, JEOPARDIZES THIS DEVELOPER.
IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE AT BEST.
THE STAFF REPORT FINDS IT CONSISTENT, BUT NOWHERE DOES IT
ADDRESS THE PERMANENT DAMAGE TO THE COMMUNITY, THE

CONSISTENCY FOUND ONLY BENEFITS THE DEVELOPER AND DOES NOT
ADDRESS THE HUMAN RESPONSIBILITY OF KEEPING NEIGHBORS SAFE.
I HAVE INCLUDED ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE, THE LAND USE GOALS.
THEY DO NOT COMPLY.
THEY ARE AGAINST THOSE LAND USE CODES.
I PLEASE ASK YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:15:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:16:00AM >> MY NAME IS GLORIDINE MCNAIR.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE CARVER CITY LINCOLN GARDENS COMMUNITY.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU COMMENTS THAT RESIDENTS
OF THE COMMUNITY SIGNED A PETITION AGAINST THIS.
IT READS: TO THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, WE THE
UNDERSIGNED ARE OPPOSING THE PETITION TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY
CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF LOIS
AVENUE AND SPRUCE STREET.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATION AT THE FIRST READING OF THE REQUEST
AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT BECAUSE -- AND AT THE LAST MEETING.
BUT BECAUSE OF EXTENSIVE PRESENTATIONS BY THE DAVIS ISLAND
REPRESENTATIONS, WE WERE UNABLE TO EXPRESS OUR OPINION.
THE MEETING EXTENDED INTO THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.
AND FOR VARIOUS REASONS, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO REMAIN.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE REMAINS THE SAME, AND IT IS DANGEROUS FOR
US TO MOVE ABOUT SAFELY IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY.
PERMITTING THIS CONSTRUCTION ONLY ENHANCES THE DANGER.
AS WE ARE AWARE, THERE ARE ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION
BEING BUILT ON THE CORNER OF BOYSCOUT AND LOIS AVENUE.
GUARANTEEING MORE TRAFFIC ON THE ALREADY DANGEROUS TO
NAVIGATE LOIS AVENUE.
WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SAFETY OF THE
COMMUNITY IS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN MAKING THESE DECISIONS,
AND THAT IS CONSTRUCTION WILL IMPEDE OUR SAFETY MORE THAN IT
IS AT THIS TIME.
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DENY THIS REPRESENTATION.
I HAVE SIGNATURES TO GO WITH THAT PETITION.
PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I REALIZE THAT THE
PETITIONERS HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLAN, BUT
THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY CONSTRUCTION OF
THE BUILDING AT THIS TIME.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST NOT IN PLACE.
I HELD MY BREATH EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN I OBSERVED THE
MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY TAKING A CHANCE BY PULLING OUT IN
FRONT OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON LOIS, FORCING THE DRIVER TO
STOP JUST TO GET ONTO LOIS AVENUE.
PLEASE CONSIDER OUR LIVELIHOOD AND THE DANGER OF ADDING THIS
STRUCTURE TO AND MORE TRAFFIC TO OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT ALLOW
IT.

WE ARE NOT AGAINST GROWTH AND IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE ARE ASKING
THAT THE BUILDING OF THIS STRUCTURE BE DENIED UNTIL FURTHER
INFRASTRUCTURE IS CREATED.
THANK YOU.
11:18:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IF YOU HAVE THE SIGNATURES, YOU CAN HAND THEM TO MR. SHELBY.
11:18:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
IT'S NOT ON THIS.
YOU ALL HAD GOTTEN A MEMO THAT I HAD AN ENGAGEMENT.
JUST A REMINDER OF THAT.
IT'S ABOUT ANOTHER 12 OR 13 MINUTES.
I SAY THIS, WE'LL BE DOWN TO FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
JUST FYI.
11:19:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
11:19:02AM >> MY NAME IS VERONICA SUTTON.
THE NEGATIVE IMPACT WHICH HOLDS MY DEEPEST FEAR IS THE
INFRASTRUCTURE.
MY HOME IS CURRENTLY A REMEDIATED SINKHOLE PROPERTY.
IN 2009, WE HAD 36 HELICAL PIERS PLACED UNDER OUR HOME TO
STABILIZE IT, $43,295.
2010, WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL 12 HELICAL PIERS ADDED FOR 14,000
ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.
THERE ARE THREE HOMES DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED COMPLEX
AND TWO HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF UNION THAT HAVE

EXPERIENCED SEVERE CRACKING.
11:19:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU COULD PLEASE SHOW THE WOLF.
IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
COULD YOU PLEASE PAUSE?
IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
THERE YOU GO.
11:19:55AM >> OKAY.
SO MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE, 4203.
NEXT DOOR, MY HOUSE IS THE HOUSE THAT HAD THE REMEDIATED
SINKHOLE.
THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE DIRECTLY BEHIND ON LOIS STREET, 1908,
THEY'VE HAD SEVERE CRACKING THAT THEY'VE HAD TO ADJUST AND
MAKE PAYMENTS FOR WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.
THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO ME HAS FOUNDATION
REPAIRS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF UNION, 4218 HAVE FOUNDATION REPAIRS,
AND 4220 RIGHT NOW IS EXPERIENCING SEVERE CRACKING IN THEIR
HOME WHICH THEY ARE ADDRESSING AT THIS POINT.
THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGES OF THIS MASSIVE BUILDING WILL CAUSE
SOME DAMAGE TO OUR HOMES, AND IT IS VERY SCARY.
IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WILL WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE FINDINGS
FOR THE BUILDING SITE?
MONITORING OUR PROPERTY AND DAMAGES THROUGHOUT.
PREP, BUILDING PROCESS, AND AFTER.
QUESTIONS ABOUT FINANCIAL ABILITY IF THIS DAMAGE OCCURS.

RIGHT NOW, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE
REMEDIATED SINKHOLES, IT ONLY COVERS A CATASTROPHIC EVENT.
SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD RECEIVE ANY HELP FROM THE INSURANCE
COMPANY IS IF MY HOUSE FALLS INTO AN ABYSS.
IF I GET CRACKING, ANY OTHER KIND OF ISSUES WITH THE
FOUNDATION, I WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY COMPENSATION FROM THE
HOMEOWNERS -- FROM THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER THE DAMAGE
THAT THIS NEW STRUCTURE MAY CAUSE THE EXISTING PROPERTIES
THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON UNION, THE THREE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
PROPERTY, AND THE TWO ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADDING OVER NEARLY 800 UNITS AND A
THOUSAND PARKING SPACES BETWEEN THE TWO PARADISE VENTURES
THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR.
HAVING TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS CAN REPRESENT THE BROADER
TAMPA CONCEPT BY MIXING THE OLD WITH THE NEW.
GROWTH SHOULD BE ADDED RESPONSIBLY.
WE HAVE ENOUGH APARTMENTS ALREADY SURROUNDING US.
PLEASE KEEP OUR HERITAGE NEIGHBORHOOD CARVER CITY SAFE.
PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS IS IMPORTANT, TOO.
I HAVE PETITIONS.
11:22:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
IF YOU'LL GIVE THEM TO THE ATTORNEY.
11:22:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
HANDED IN?

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:22:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:22:25AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS SHERYL DAVIS ANTHONY.
MY MAIDEN NAME.
I GREW UP IN CARVER CITY BACK IN THE '60s.
I MOVED AWAY AND CAME BACK.
I LIVE IN MY PARENTS' HOUSE.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILDING AROUND
OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEN MY FATHER WAS SICK, THEY BUILT THE RECREATION CENTER.
I HAVE NO OPPOSE ABOUT THAT.
THEY BUILD THE INTERNATIONAL MALL.
HE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT IN HIS ILLNESS.
ALSO, WE HAVE CRACKS IN OUR HOUSE.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
THEY PUT THE STRUCTURE RIGHT BEHIND WHERE I LIVE.
WE OWN THE TWO LOTS PLUS WHERE WE LIVE.
AND IF THEY CONTINUE TO BUILD BEHIND US, BESIDE US, AND
WHERE THEY ARE DECIDING TO PUT THE FOUR-STORY STRUCTURE AND
THE POOL IS RIGHT NEXT CLOSE TO ME BEHIND ME.
AND WE HAVE MY NEIGHBOR, THEY ARE ELDERLY, AND THEY GO

THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
PEOPLE ARE SICK.
WE HAVE ELDER PEOPLE.
AND MOST PEOPLE ON OUR STREET IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN
THERE FOR DECADES.
AND TO CONTINUE TO BUILD AND MAKE HEAVY TRAFFIC, IT TAKES
YOU ABOUT, ALMOST ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES TO GET OUT
FROM -- I LIVE ON UNION.
AND TO GET TO LOIS, TO GET OUT, IT'S VERY SCARY BECAUSE YOU
GOT TO CONCENTRATE ON PEOPLE WALKING AND THE TRAFFIC.
AND THEN SOMETIMES IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING TOTAL
ATTENTION, YOU CAN GET HIT AND IT ALMOST SCARED ME.
I WALK MY NEIGHBORHOOD A LOT.
AND SEEING ALL THIS NEW THIS AND THAT GOING UP, AND MAKING
-- ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS SAID THAT SHE HAD HER HOUSE
RENOVATED.
SHE'S NEW TO THE AREA, BUT SHE SHOWED ME HOW SHE'S GETTING
CRACKS.
IF THEY ARE CONTINUING TO BUILD, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO?
OUR HOUSE IS GOING TO START SINKING, AND WE WANT TO KNOW
WHAT'S GOING TO COME TO US.
WE HAVE TO SELL OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THANK YOU.
11:24:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.

11:25:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ANNALIE ALINA.
I AM A HOMEOWNER OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE
PROPERTY SITE.
THE CONCERNS OF MY FAMILY REMAIN UNRESOLVED, WHICH ARE THE
HEIGHT BEING A SEVEN-STORY BUILDING AND THE SINKHOLES, OF
COURSE, IS A MAIN CONCERN.
RIGHT THERE IN BETWEEN TWO SINKHOLES.
THE OVERCROWDING AND THE DENSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
WHOLE ENTIRE AREA AND THE SAFETY FOR THE FAMILY, FOR THE
CHILDREN.
THERE IS A SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT ON LOIS.
THERE IS A MAGNET SCHOOL.
WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED PREVIOUSLY THAT THE SURROUNDING AREA IS
IN NO SHORTAGE OF AVAILABLE APARTMENTS.
AND GRANTED -- ALMOST 400 UNITS AND ANOTHER SISTER SITE OF
THIS DEVELOPER FOR 410 UNITS BUILT RIGHT THERE DIRECTLY ON
LOIS.
SO THAT IS ADDITIONAL, ALMOST A THOUSAND UNITS.
REGARDING THE HEIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THE COUNCIL'S
ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE SEVEN-STORY BUILDING WILL SET
THE PRECEDENT FOR THE ENTIRE AREA OF IT BEING SO HIGH,
ADJACENT, DIRECTLY TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY.
THERE IS NO OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HIGH ADJACENT TO
THE SINGLE-FAMILIES.

WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT BEFORE.
WE ARE VERY CONCERNED FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, STEMMING FROM INCREASED TRAFFIC AND CRIMINAL
ACTIVITIES BEING BROUGHT UP FROM SO MANY APARTMENT UNITS IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DEMONSTRATED THAT THE ENTIRE AREA IS
A FORMER LAND FILL.
SINKHOLES IS A MAIN CONCERN.
LIKE MY NEIGHBORS SAID BEFORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THIS NEIGHBOR AT
THE VERY CORNER.
SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT HER PROPERTY STARTS HAVING CRACKS AS
WELL.
MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE.
SO I HAVE PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED THE FACT OF THIS MATTER WITH
A DEVELOPER, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK.
BUT I FEEL LIKE SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER GETS
ALL THE BENEFIT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT WE ARE THE CURRENT
PROPERTY OWNERS, WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE LEFT WITH
POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR HAVING TO HAVE STRUCTURAL
INSPECTIONS ONGOING THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION STAGE AND
THEN COMPLETION STAGE AND GOING FORWARD AND POSSIBLE
REMEDIATION.
AGAIN, THIS HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
WE HAVE NO WARRANTIES PROPOSED FROM THE DEVELOPER OR

ANYTHING OF THAT KIND.
WITH THE LIKELIHOOD OF FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF NEARBY COUNTY
AND CITY PROPERTIES, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE.
LOIS AVENUE AND SPRUCE STREET CANNOT SUSTAIN THAT.
PREVIOUSLY, IT'S BEEN RECORDED APRIL MEETING AFTER THE
HURRICANES THE ENTIRE SPRUCE STREET WAS FLOODED AND PEOPLE
COULD NOT JUST MOVE ALONG AT ALL FOR DAYS.
URGE YOU TO DENY.
11:28:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:15AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:28:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT.
AND YOU CAME IN AFTER, SO IF ANYONE ELSE HAS COME IN THAT
HASN'T BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF
YOU PLAN TO SPEAK.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, MA'AM.
11:28:33AM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT
TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
11:28:38AM >> YES, I DO.
11:28:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:28:41AM >> MY NAME IS RUBY DEAN DANIELS.
MY LAST NAME IS SPELLED D-A-N-I-E-L-S.
I LIVE BETWEEN -- I LIVE ON MAIN STREET.

MY ADDRESS IS 4316 WEST MAIN STREET.
AND ON THAT STREET, I'M BETWEEN MANHATTAN AND HUBERT.
AROUND THE CORNER, UNION STREET AND ALL THAT, WHERE ALL THE
STRUCTURE IS GOING UP.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE CHILDREN, AND THE CHILDREN OF
THE CHILDREN.
IT'S JUST NOT SAFE.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WHAT WAS THE BEST THING ABOUT THAT, IN
THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVED THROUGH THE
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, INCLUDING JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL, LAVOY EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT CENTER, AND ROLAND PARK
K-8, A MAGNET SCHOOL.
WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT PARTICIPATE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FROM
ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND IT IS NOT SAFE TO GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY.
IT TOOK ME TEN MINUTES TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, AND MY
KIDS CAN WALK TO SCHOOL.
BUT THE REASON I WAS GOING TO DRIVE THEM TO SCHOOL, BECAUSE
IT WASN'T EVEN SAFE TO STAND IN OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH WE ARE
FOUR FEET INTO THE DRIVEWAY, PEOPLE WOULD SPEED THROUGH MAIN
STREET.
PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS.
I LOVE MY DOGS.
I LOVE MY GUINEA PIGS, TOO.
BUT IT'S JUST NOT FAIR THAT THEY ARE NOT TREATING IT LIKE A

NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL FAMILY, WHICH CONSISTS OF CHILDREN
AND ALL OF THEIR LOVED ONES AND THE ELDERLY.
WHAT'S HURTING ME THE MOST IS I LOVE TO SEE LIKE LAVOY, THAT
SCHOOL, PARTICULAR SCHOOL, WOULD TEACH THOSE KIDS SAFETY AND
THEY WILL WALK UP AND DOWN IN CARVER CITY, THOSE STREETS.
THOSE CHILDREN HAD ASSIGNMENTS.
TO HEAR THAT PERSON SAY TO THE OTHER PERSON, NO, I'M IN
CHARGE BECAUSE THE DAY THEY SAID I CAN GO DOWN MAIN STREET
OR I'M GOING TO GO WALK ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO LOIS OR WE'LL
GO AROUND UNION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT, CHILDREN THAT BECAME -- THEY ARE
PEOPLE, THEY ARE ADULTS, BUT IT'S NOT SAFE BECAUSE THE CARS
RULE IT AND THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN IS
SMOTHERING WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND WE WANT TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE IT THERE AS A FOUNDATION AND CALL THAT OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
I THANK GOD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE
I WAS ALMOST RUN OVER ON MANHATTAN STANDING ON THE CORNER,
AND THE OFFICER PULLED -- SAID I SAW WHAT HAPPENED.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE I CAN
TALK.
I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT EVERYTHING.
MY SON IS 50 YEARS OLD.
MY SON TURNED 50 YEARS OLD JULY THE 10th LAST YEAR.

AND MY SON IS VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND HE WENT TO ROLAND PARK.
HE WENT TO THAT SCHOOL AREA.
THAT'S WHAT MADE HIM, HELPED HIM ALONG THE WAY TO BE THE MAN
THAT HE IS FROM THE MILITARY.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
I KNOW I WENT OVER.
THANK YOU.
11:32:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:04AM >> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
11:32:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEXT.
11:32:48AM >> TELL YOU WHAT THIS LIST IS.
11:32:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST ONE SECOND.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:32:58AM >> HI.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU KNOW, THE FIRST READING LASTED -- IT WAS AT 2:00 IN THE
MORNING.
IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF FOLKS FROM THE
COMMUNITY THAT WERE HERE THAT NIGHT, BUT THAT WAS THE NIGHT
OF THE MIRASOL MEETING.
THERE WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO STAYED BEHIND AND ACTUALLY
SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
I SPENT JUST A FEW MINUTES GOOGLING.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN RIPCO AND THE ACTUAL
DEVELOPER.

I THINK IT'S STRANGE WE HAD TWO PEOPLE FROM THAT COMPANY.
BUT WE HAD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE
FROM PLAYBOOK PUBLIC RELATIONS COMPANY THAT SPOKE.
THEY WERE NOT NEIGHBORS.
THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
THEY STOOD OUT LIKE A TURD IN A PUNCH BOWL BECAUSE IT WAS SO
LATE.
THEY DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THE OTHER FOLKS WHO CAME HERE TODAY
AND SPOKE PUBLICLY.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS UNDERSTOOD.
WE'RE HAVING MORE AND MORE OF THIS OF DEVELOPERS CALLING
THEIR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND HAVING THEM COME AND
TESTIFY, AND THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID TO COME AND DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU, THIS HOUSE RIGHT
HERE, THIS RED PIN, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S SITE.
THIS RED PIN RIGHT THERE, REMEMBER, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER THE
FIRST TIME THIS CAME IN FRONT OF YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON HAD TO RECUSE HERSELF BECAUSE SHE OWNED THIS
PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS HER MOTHER'S HOUSE.
IT'S UNINHABITABLE.
DO I HAVE ANY PROOF?
EXCEPT I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH HER NOT VERY LONG
AFTER THE HEARING, AFTER SHE RECUSED HERSELF.

SHE EXPLAINED TO ME SHE HAS FAMILY WHO WOULD LOVE TO LIVE IN
THE HOUSE BUT IT IS UNINHABITABLE BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURAL
DAMAGE TO IT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DESTROY PEOPLE'S HOMES IN
ORDER TO GIVE THIS DEVELOPER WHAT THEY WANT?
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, THEY CAME BACK.
IT'S BEEN LESS THAN A YEAR, BUT DO YOU KNOW THAT IN BETWEEN
THIS ONE AND THE LAST ONE THEY FILED A LIVE LOCAL?
THEY FILED A LIVE LOCAL IN BETWEEN?
THEY GOT TURNED DOWN BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY A PD.
IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL LAND.
IT'S NOT -- BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE THING WAS PEOPLE
SHOWING UP.
THESE DEVELOPERS ARE HELL-BENT ON BUILDING HERE.
YES, WESTSHORE DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR THIS KIND OF DENSITY.
BUT THEY DO NOT ALLOW YOU -- THEY DO NOT MAKE YOU APPROVE
CONSTRUCTION NEXT TO A FRICKIN' CHLORINE PLANT?
STAFFERS DON'T MAKE THE DECISIONS.
YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS.
IF THIS IS NOT A SAFE PROPERTY, YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
IT'S BEEN SAID BEFORE.
IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.
WHEN THE CHLORINE PLANT, WHEN THEY WANTED TO BUILD ABUTTING
A CHLORINE PLANT, CITY STAFF SAID WE DON'T MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS.

THAT'S ON YOU.
THIS IS ON YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION, IS THIS SAFE FOR THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY?
I SAY NO.
SANDY SHOWED YOU -- PUT SANDY'S STUFF IN THE RECORD, PLEASE.
11:36:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
IS THERE REBUTTAL?
THE APPLICANT HAS REBUTTAL.
11:36:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TYLER HUDSON.
400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
I WANT TO FOCUS A BIT ON WHY WE'RE HERE, WHAT THE
APPLICANT'S ROLE IS AND WHAT CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS.
THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HAD TO GET SWORN IN, INCLUDING A
LATECOMER LIKE ME, WHICH I APOLOGIZE FOR.
THE TWO QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU ARE, FIRST, IS THIS APPLICATION
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOUR PREDECESSOR
HAS ADOPTED?
THE ANSWER IS YES.
THIS IS RMU 100.
IT IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT THIS
CITY HAS.
WE DIDN'T TRY TO CHANGE THAT.
THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE GROWTH IS SAID TO BE DIRECTED UNDER
YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THE
HEARTFELT CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THIS FEELING THAT
TOO MUCH GROWTH IS COMING HERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF
NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY THAT FEEL THAT WAY BECAUSE THE
CITY IS GROWING SO MUCH.
THE WAY TO CHANGE THAT IS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
WHICH YOU ALL ARE CURRENTLY CHANGING NOW.
BUT AS A PROPERTY OWNER, WE HAVE RIGHTS.
AND THOSE RIGHTS FIRST STEM FROM WHAT IS ALLOWED UNDER THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S THE FIRST INQUIRY.
YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION EXPERT STAFF WHICH COURTS HAVE HELD
IS EXPERT TESTIMONY HAS SAID, YES, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S QUESTION ONE.
QUESTION TWO, IS WHETHER THIS PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
IT IS.
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WAIVER PROPOSED ON THIS PLAN.
WE ARE USING LESS DENSITY IN F.A.R. THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED.
WHAT YOU HEARD IN THE TESTIMONY, THERE WAS A LOT OF, I
THINK, HEARTFELT CONCERN AND FEAR.
SOME OF THAT WAS SPECULATION.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE GEOTECH IN ONE SECOND.
BUT WHAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR IS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL, AND
FACT-BASED TESTIMONY THAT THIS VIOLATES THE COMP PLAN OR THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
WE CAN GO FAR AFIELD AND WE CAN GO DOWN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PATHS, BUT THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS MEETING.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE SWORN IN TO DETERMINE FIRST IF THIS IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND, SECOND, WHETHER THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
THIS COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY, UPON CONSIDERATION OF THIS AT
FIRST READING, SAID YES.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
BRIEFLY ON GEOTECH, THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE AMBIT OF THIS
DISCUSSION.
GET A SITE PERMIT, WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE LAND CAN ABSORB
THE STRUCTURAL LAND ON TOP OF IT.
WE CAN'T BUILD A BUILDING THAT THE SOILS WON'T SUPPORT.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.
WE WOULDN'T WANT TO.
THAT IS A SUBSEQUENT PROCESS IN SITE PERMITTING THAT STAFF
HAS JURISDICTION OVER, BUT GEOTECH IS NOT SOMETHING WE ARE
REQUIRED OR REALLY CAN PROVE AT THIS STAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T
HAVE A BUILDING FULLY DESIGNED YET.

GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR VOTE OF APPROVAL AGAIN.
THANK YOU.
11:39:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
JUST IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTS' FEAR ABOUT
SINKHOLES AND FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TOUCH
ON THAT IN YOUR REBUTTAL.
11:39:59AM >> SURE.
FIRST OF ALL, THE DEVELOPER COULDN'T BE HERE.
HE'S OUT OF TOWN.
I KNOW CHRIS, THEY WILL HAVE HIM, HE WILL BE AT THE NEXT
CARVER CITY, LINCOLN GARDENS MEETING, AND TO CONTINUE
DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
WE HAVE SEEN PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, CONSTRUCTION AS
PERHAPS YOU KNOW FROM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, CONSTRUCTION CAN BE
MESSY.
IF THIS IS APPROVED, CHRIS MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
I THINK WE CAME TO A POINT WHERE WE KNEW THERE WAS A
DISAGREEMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, ON HIS BEHALF, I CAN COMMIT THAT HE WILL DO
THAT.
HE WILL SHOW UP AFTER THIS IS OVER BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG
PROCESS.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
SECOND, ON GEOTECH, WE HAVE TO PROVE -- A LICENSED ENGINEER
HAS TO PROVE OUT TO GET A PERMIT.
AGAIN, OUR LAND ALONE CAN SUPPORT ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL
LOAD.
AS FAR AS OTHER APARTMENTS NEARBY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED.
THAT'S SORT OF OUTSIDE THE COURSE.
IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THE SOIL BENEATH AN OLDER
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME HAS ISSUES IN THAT THE CAUSE OF THE
CRACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT MIGHT BE FROM THE SOIL
BENEATH THE HOME.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT VIBRATIONS HALF MILE A WAY HAVE NOTHING
TO DO WITH THAT.
WE HAVE TO PROVE TO THE GOVERNMENT, NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE
TO PROVE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING MONEY TO MAKE A PROJECT
LIKE THIS HAPPEN, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS ON
THE SITE OR AROUND IT.
JUST LIKE WITH STORMWATER, YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOUR SITE
IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL OF IT ON-SITE.
IT'S AN ENGINEERING QUESTION THAT WE MUST ANSWER
AFFIRMATIVELY BY AN EXPERT WHO PUTS THEIR PROFESSIONAL
LICENSE AND THEIR INSURANCE ON THE LINE WHEN THEY SAY, YES,
THIS IS SAFE.

SO THAT IS OUR OBLIGATION ON GEOTECH, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO
MEET.
I THINK MORE BROADLY, THERE IS A DISCUSSION THAT THIS
COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES ON
PROJECTS.
I KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE AN INCONVENIENCE
AS A RESULT OF CONSTRUCTION HERE.
THIS AREA IS GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY.
ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, I CAN PROMISE THAT AFTER THIS
APPROVAL, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY.
THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE.
BUT FROM A GEOTECH PERSPECTIVE, THIS BUILDING CAUSING
EARTHQUAKES, ZERO EVIDENCE OF THAT.
WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY WAS SOME SPECULATION.
I THINK IT DID COME FROM THE HEART, BUT THAT'S NOT THE BASIS
OF YOUR DECISION TODAY.
THE BASIS OF YOUR DECISION TODAY IS ON EVIDENCE AND WHAT IS
IN THE RECORD.
WHAT IS IN THE RECORD IS A STAFF REPORT FINDING OF FULL
CONSISTENCY ACROSS EVERY DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS, I THINK, THE
BASIS OF YOUR DECISION THE FIRST TIME, WHICH AGAIN I
MAINTAIN WAS THE CORRECT DECISION.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU.

11:42:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
11:42:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL COUNCIL FOR THIS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL ON EITHER SIDE.
THERE ARE FACTS ON WHAT EVERYBODY SAID.
I BELIEVE WHAT EVERYBODY SAID.
HOWEVER, BELIEVING EVERYTHING IS NOT FACTUAL BECAUSE THERE
IS A CLASH.
THERE WERE FOUR WAIVERS.
11:43:11AM >> I BELIEVE, SIR, MAYBE MORE THAN FOUR.
11:43:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIX.
11:43:15AM >> I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN FOUR.
11:43:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO BE FAIR TO BOTH SIDES.
I UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR THE CYCLE IN JULY.
I'LL MAKE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE ARE TYING UP A LOT OF OUR
RULES BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, NOT REGARDING YOU.
YOU ARE A GREAT ATTORNEY.
YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE FIRM YOU ARE WITH.
FANTASTIC.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
IT IS A CASE ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE RIGHT NOW.
I'LL GO OFF TO ANOTHER SUBJECT.
THE RECORD BE CLEAR, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, GROWING SO FAST AND
SO PERFECT, THAT WE'RE NOT FAST AND PERFECT AT THE SAME
TIME.
WE'RE BUILDING THINGS THAT BELONG THERE, BUT THEN AROUND
THAT AREA, SOMEONE IS SUFFERING.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
BELIEVE ME, I'M NOT.
I SWEAR ON MY MOTHER'S ASHES.
BUT THERE'S GOT TO BE A MARRIAGE, AND I'M GOING TO CHANGE
SOME OF THESE LAWS.
I WROTE ONE TODAY ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING PARTIES IN
NEIGHBORHOOD SITUATION WHERE DRUNKS COME IN AND 12,000
PEOPLE, 20,000 PEOPLE, AND THE POLICE WAS THERE, THEY
COULDN'T HANDLE THE CROWD.
THIS PAST WEEKEND.
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WENT.
I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAD TO LISTEN TO THAT.
AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING THERE.
I'LL FIX IT BY CHANGING THE LAW.
THIS, SO HELP ME GOD, BEFORE I LEAVE, I'M CHANGING IT THAT A
LOT MORE HAS GOT TO BE DONE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO
BE UNHAPPY.
I WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE IN HARMONY.
THE PROBLEM TODAY IN AMERICA, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN
WASHINGTON IS NOBODY SPEAKS TO EACH OTHER.

AND THAT'S THE MAIN PROBLEM WE HAVE IN COMMUNICATION.
IF WE STOP DOING THAT, FORGET ABOUT THE INTERNET.
FORGET ABOUT YOUR CELL PHONE.
NO ONE LOOKS EACH OTHER IN THE EYE AND REALIZES WHAT IT
NEEDS TO SURVIVE.
AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
THAT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.
NOT ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I SAID IT OVER AND SAY IT AGAIN.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE CANNOT SOLVE BECAUSE NOBODY TALKS
EYE TO EYE.
THAT'S IT.
11:45:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.
-- OR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
CIRCLING BACK TO THIS ITEM THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, AND YOU
DO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CODE AS IT EXISTS TODAY UPON WHICH
YOU APPLY THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS YOU FIND IT.
THAT'S SECTION 27-136, THE PURPOSE OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
AS I USUALLY DO IN THE NIGHT MEETINGS, I PASS THESE OUT FOR
YOU TO SEE, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE NINE CRITERIA
THAT EXIST IN YOUR CODE AND APPLY THE FACTS AS YOU FIND THEM
TO BE.
WITH TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR AT THE FIRST

PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU HEARD REASONS WHY THAT WAS.
BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS ANOTHER
OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE ALL PARTIES TO ALLOW FOR MORE
COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO COME INTO THE RECORD UPON
WHICH YOU BASE YOUR DECISION.
I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO COUNCIL.
11:46:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
11:46:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
11:46:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY, WE NEED ALL FOUR OF US TO VOTE
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN ORDER FOR THIS TO PASS, IS THAT
CORRECT?
11:46:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS CORRECT.
THE RULES STATING THAT ARE RULE 6-C, IF AT A QUASI-JUDICIAL
PUBLIC HEARING, ONLY FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE AVAILABLE
TO TAKE ACTION, THEN ANY PETITIONER SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO
CONTINUE THE MATTER UNTIL THERE ARE A MINIMUM OF FIVE
MEMBERS.
IF THERE IS LESS THAN A FULL CITY COUNCIL, A PETITIONER MAY
REQUEST TO CONTINUE A MATTER BUT IT WILL NOT BE AS A MATTER
OF RIGHT.
SO IN THIS CASE, COUNCIL CAN TAKE ACTION, BUT IF THE
PETITIONER DOES REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, THAT IS GRANTED AS A
MATTER OF RIGHT.

11:47:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PETITIONER?
11:47:14AM >> WE NEED A VOTE.
11:47:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
11:47:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT HE SAID.
11:47:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE SAID WE NEED A VOTE.
IT IS THE PETITIONER'S CHOICE.
11:47:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE COUNCIL THEN, COUNCIL, FOR YOU, IS THEN
THE QUESTION IS, IF THERE IS A VOTE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT
VOTE IS, YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO CREATE A RECORD OF THE BASIS
OF YOUR DECISION.
IF IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOUR INITIAL VOTE WAS.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR VOTE AS IT STANDS NOW IN THE AGENDA YOU
SEE IT, BUT IF THAT VOTE SHOULD CHANGE FOR ANY REASON, MY
RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THAT BE CLEARLY STATED ON THE
RECORD.
11:48:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC
HEARING?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:48:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND IT NOW.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS, IT'S
INCUMBENT ON THOSE FOUR MEMBERS TO SAY IF THEY WANT TO HAVE
THE HEARING WITH FOUR OR SEVEN.
NOW YOU SET A STANDARD FOREVER AND EVER THAT FOUR MEMBERS
CAN DO WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT INSTEAD OF SEVEN.
11:48:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.

FOUR MEMBERS UNDER THE CITY CHARTER CAN EFFECT OFFICIAL
ACTION.
THAT IS YOUR CHARTER, AND THAT IS THE LAW.
HOWEVER, IF YOU DON'T GET FOUR VOTES, LET ME READ THE RULE
THAT APPLIES TO THAT.
IT SAYS RULE 6-H, IF A MOTION IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER
FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS.
AND IF ANOTHER MOTION, FOR INSTANCE, A MOTION TO CONTINUE,
IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE
AUTOMATICALLY -- LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
STRIKE WHAT I ADDED INTO THE RULE.
LET ME READ IT VERBATIM.
IF A MOTION IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO RECEIVE AT
LEAST FOUR VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS.
IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC HEARING
SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME
CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
11:49:49AM >> DID THE HEARING CLOSE?
11:49:51AM >> NO.
11:49:52AM >> I JUST HEARD FROM MY CLIENT WHO COULDN'T BE HERE, WE
WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE.
I DON'T WANT MORE LAWYERS TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS THAN
NECESSARY.
WITH COUNCIL'S GRACE AND DISCRETION, WE'D ASK FOR A
CONTINUANCE.

I WOULD ASK TO THE NEXT POSSIBLE MEETING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
SOME EXTERNAL --
11:50:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FEBRUARY 19 IS THE NEXT MEETING.
11:50:15AM >> IF THAT WORKS WITH YOUR SCHEDULE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE A CROWD, BUT THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
11:50:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY --
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY SECOND READINGS ON THAT.
I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE SEVEN.
OKAY.
11:50:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
11:50:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY -- DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION
TO THAT EFFECT?
THE 19th.
IT'S JUST REALLY FULL.
11:50:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE WERE HERE UNTIL 3:30 IN THE MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO --
11:51:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN DO A TIME CERTAIN.
THAT IS WHAT MR. SHELBY SAID.
11:51:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU DO IT AT A TIME CERTAIN,
THEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE YOU STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND TAKE
IT UP.
11:51:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE

A MOTION AND CHOOSING A TIME?
11:51:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME
CERTAIN?
LIKE 1:30 P.M.?
11:51:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
10:30 A.M. IS GENERALLY WHEN WE TAKE THESE
UP.
11:51:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
TO -- I'LL GET THE NUMBER HERE, REZ 25-117, CONTINUE IT TO
FEBRUARY 19 AT 11 A.M.
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602, UNITED STATES.
11:51:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
11:51:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR THAT PART.
11:52:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL SECOND IT.
11:52:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
YES, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
11:00 IS FINE, BUT USUALLY WE DO IT AT
1:30 WOULD BE BEST BECAUSE RIGHT AFTER LUNCH AND EVERYBODY
IS ALREADY CLEARED JUST ABOUT.
11:52:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S DO 1:30 BECAUSE WE MIGHT HAVE LONG
PUBLIC COMMENT AND CEREMONIAL THINGS.
11:52:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHOOSING 1:30.
11:52:23AM >> 1:
30 IS FINE.
11:52:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY REQUEST BETWEEN THIS AND THAT IS FOR YOUR

CLIENT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THEM
ABOUT WHAT POSSIBLY, ABOUT THEIR PARTICULAR CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE WELL ADVISED.
I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY HAD THEM BEFORE, BUT IF YOU COULD GET
PEOPLE'S CONTACT INFORMATION, THAT IS GOING TO BE MY
PERSONAL ASK.
11:52:48AM >> AND IT WILL BE GRANTED.
11:52:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
11:52:51AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:52:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY AGAIN.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE AGENDA FOR THE CLERK BE PLACED, THIS BE
THE FIRST ITEM AT 1:30 AFTER LUNCH.
11:53:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, IS THAT WHAT YOU WISH?
11:53:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
11:53:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS HEARING TO
FEBRUARY 19, 1:30 P.M., FIRST ON THE AGENDA AFTER WE RETURN
FROM LUNCH AT 1:30.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTERS WHO CAME OUT TODAY.
REMINDING YOU THAT WE ALSO TAKE -- I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU
TOOK TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY TO COME HERE.
WE ALSO ACCEPT CITY COUNCIL E-MAIL.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
MR. SHELBY.
11:53:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I COULD POINT OUT THAT CITY COUNCIL
E-MAIL IS NOT THE SAME IN TERMS OF COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE AS HAVING SOMEBODY IN PERSON.
11:53:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T MAKE IT OUT TWICE, WE
ALSO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT VIA ONLINE ACCESS.
I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK OUT.
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU MEET WITH THESE FOLKS OUTSIDE.
GET CONTACT INFO AND HAVE A MEETING.
11:54:11AM >> WE WILL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:54:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
11:54:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ITEM 47.
11:54:18AM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 47 IS REZ-25-127.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5501, 5511, 5531, 5551, 5561, UNITS 101-319, 5571, UNITS
101-328, 5521 AND 5541 NORTH 22nd STREET AND 2302 AND 2236
EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL

SALES, SPECIALTY CONVENIENCE, SHOPPER GOODS, PERSONAL
SERVICES, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RESTAURANT.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO ADDED THE LABEL IDENTIFYING THE
LOCATION OF THE DOG PARK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:55:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, COUNCIL WILL BE
TAKING LUNCH AFTER THIS.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ANY OTHER ITEM, YOU'LL HAVE
TO DO IT WHEN WE COME BACK.
SORRY.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME CITY STAFF HERE.
I WANT TO LET THEM GO.
DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER FOR ITEM NUMBER 47?
11:55:38AM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD HENDERSON.
THE ONLY QUESTION YOU HAD BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
IS THE LOCATION OF THE DOG PARK.
IT DID NOT CHANGE.
I THINK MS. POPE HAS A FULL-SIZE SITE PLAN SHE CAN SHOW.
I ALSO HAVE IT ON MY PHONE.
11:55:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE WOLF UP.
11:55:55AM >> STILL IN THE SAME LOCATION.
11:55:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

11:55:59AM >> IT WAS ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, TOO.
IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE PLAN.
IT WAS ACTUALLY INCORRECTLY UPLOADED IN THE AGENDA TODAY.
SO I HAD A MOMENT OF PANIC, BUT I COMMUNICATED WITH STAFF
AND WE'RE ALL GOOD.
HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:56:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 47?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO READ THIS?
11:56:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABSOLUTELY.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
5501, 5511, 5531, 5551, 5561 UNITS 101-319, 5571 UNITS
101-328, 5521 AND 5541 NORTH 22nd AND 2302 AND 2236 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION, PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL SALES,
SPECIALTY, CONVENIENCE, AND SHOPPER'S GOODS, PERSONAL
SERVICES, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND RESTAURANT,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:57:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:57:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:57:14AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, CARLSON AND
CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:57:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 31, 51, 52 AND 59?
WE DIDN'T DO THAT YET?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]

01:33:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:33:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
01:33:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
01:33:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
01:33:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
01:33:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
01:33:19PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
01:33:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO STAFF FOR PUBLIC HEARING, ITEM NUMBER 49.
01:33:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
01:33:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO OPEN 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
LET'S DO OATHS.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 49 AT ALL, PLEASE STAND,
AND EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU ARE NOT BUT YOU ARE HERE FOR THAT
ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANK YOU.
[SWEARING IN]
01:34:13PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE REVIEW FOR FILE NO.
DE1-25-160-C FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4001 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
THIS IS A DE NOVO HEARING THAT IS BEFORE YOU.
CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE YOUR PACKETS THAT CONTAIN THE RULES
OF PROCEDURE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING.
IT SHOULD ALSO CONTAIN CODE SECTION 27-61, WHICH IS THE
REVIEW HEARING PROCESS THAT GOVERNS THIS MATTER.
ALSO, I PROVIDED A SAMPLE MOTION REGARDING THIS ITEM.
BUT AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED CODE SECTION 27-61, A DE NOVO
REVIEW HEARING, WHICH MEANS CITY COUNCIL CAN RECEIVE NEW
EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS THE MATTER.
AFTER HEARING FROM STAFF AND FROM THE PETITIONER REGARDING
THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN EITHER AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR OR OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR.
AND THE SAMPLE MOTION GIVES YOU SOME GUIDANCE.
I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SAMPLE MOTION THE CRITERIA IN 27-60,
SUBSECTIONS E-5, THAT SHALL BE USED IN ORDER TO DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT TO AFFIRM OR DENY THE -- THE APPLICATION --
THE REQUEST BY THE PETITIONERS.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL
TURN IT OVER TO MR. COTTON, WHO WILL BE HERE -- WHO WILL
PRESENT WHY THIS APPLICATION WAS DENIED.
01:35:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I AM SORRY, I FORGOT TO DO NUMBER
TWO IN THIS -- IN THE PROCEDURES.
01:35:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NUMBER TWO IS TO ASK IF ANYBODY HAS ANY
VERBAL EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THEY NEED TO DISCLOSE AT THIS
TIME.
OTHERWISE WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
WRITTEN REQUESTS.
IF THERE IS A MOTION?
01:36:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO I HAVE A MOTION?
AND YOU ARE --
01:36:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, I AM, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
01:36:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WHO HAS
JOINED US.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
01:36:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
01:36:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA TO
RECEIVE ALL WRITTEN MATERIALS, IF ANY.
SO ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW WE ARE READY FOR MR. COTTON.
APOLOGIES.
01:36:43PM >>ERIC COTTON:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, ERIC COTTON,
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS AN APPEAL OF DESIGN EXCEPTION 25-160 FOR THE
PROPERTY AT 4001 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
SO THE PETITIONER AND PROPERTY OWNER IS NEW PLAZA LLC, AGENT
IS CIVIL DESIGN ENGINEERING.
WANTS TO BUILD A BRAND-NEW SHOPPING CENTER ON THE PROPERTY 01:37:18PM AND ASKING FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS AN ADMINISTRATIVE
REVIEW BY CITY STAFF.
THEY ASKED FOR THREE THINGS.
ONE, TO ALLOW THE FRONT SETBACK TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 138 FEET,
THE PRINCIPAL FACADE TONOT TO FACE A PUBLIC STREET, AND TO
ALLOW PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD.
IF I SHOW THE SITE PLAN, IT WILL MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE
CLEAR FOR YOU ALL.
THIS IS THE PROPERTY, OF COURSE, ON 40th.
THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH, THE SOUTHWEST -- THE SOUTHEAST
INTERSECTION.
THIS IS THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION THAT
IS PROBABLY IN THE PACKET THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED.
THESE ARE THE CODE EXCEPTIONS.
SO THESE ARE ALL PART OF THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, IF
YOU ALL RECALL, WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2000, 2001, AND
HAS BEEN AMENDED PERIODICALLY ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE THE
PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS WERE REMOVED.
EAST TAMPA CAME IN AND ASKED FOR CHANGES.
WE DID A FRONT YARD SETBACK NOW AS A BUILD-TO ZONE, BETWEEN
10 AND 12 FEET FOR RESIDENTIAL -- COMMERCIAL USES.
BUILDING FACADE AND ENTRY WAYS HAVE TO FACE THE PUBLIC
STREET AND PARKING LOCATED IN THE REAR OR SIDE YARD.
THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS PRESENTED AS PART OF
DOWNTOWN DESIGN EXCEPTION.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
PARKING IS IN THE FRONT.
ENTRANCE OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH.
AND ENTRANCE OFF OF NORTH 40th.
STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT -- I AM NOT AN ENGINEER.
I AM NOT AN ARCHITECT.
BUT THE STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT THE PROPERTY CAN BE FLIPPED
TO A DEGREE.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM ON MY DRAWING
HERE, BUT THE STAFF POSITION IS THAT THE BUILDING COULD BE
FLIPPED AND A DIFFERENT DESIGN COULD BE UTILIZED TO BRING THE
BUILDING UP CLOSE ,WHICH IS THE INTENT OF THE OVERLAY
DISTRICT TO MAKE IT MORE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY AND MEET THE 10-
TO 12-FOOT SETBACK.
PUT THE PARKING TOWARD THE REAR.
AND IT WOULD HAVE THE FRONT DOOR TO BE DEFINITELY FACING THE
STREET AND NOT HAVING A PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN.
THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
01:39:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:39:32PM >>ERIC COTTON:
YES, SIR.
01:39:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS RIGHT NOW IS AN EMPTY PARKING LOT
WITH A CHECK CASHING SITE ON IT.
IS THAT THE SITE?
01:39:40PM >>ERIC COTTON:
THE CHECK CASHING SITE IS AT THE CORNER.
NOT PART OF THEIR SITE.
IT IS CARVED OUT.
01:39:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HISTORICALLY, WAS THERE IS A GROCERY
STORE THERE?
WHAT WAS -- THAT IS A BIG LOT.
I DON'T KNOW.
01:39:52PM >>ERIC COTTON:
DON'T RECALL WHAT WAS THERE.
I AM SURE THE APPLICANT CAN TELL YOU WHAT WAS THERE
HISTORICALLY.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
01:39:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAYBE A CAR DEALERSHIP.
01:40:01PM >>ERIC COTTON:
A LARGE SITE, ALMOST 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
01:40:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:40:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE.
OKAY, PETITIONER.
I'M SORRY -- SO, YES, PRESENTATION BY THE PETITIONER.
01:40:13PM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS MUBAREK.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ON HILLSBOROUGH AND 40th.
BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, FREE AND CLEAR.
IT HAD A GROCERY STORE WHERE I ENDED UP LOSING THAT
BUILDING.
I WAS THE LANDLORD OF THE PROPERTY.
DIDN'T OWN THE GROCERY STORE.
IT GOT BURNED DOWN FIVE YEARS AGO.
TENANTS WERE THERE.
I HAD INSURANCE, FULL COVERAGE INSURANCE.
HE DID NOT COOPERATE WITH ME ABOUT FIXING SOME OF THE
ELECTRIC.
I ENDED UP -- I WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
I ENDED UP LOSING INSURANCE AT THAT TIME.
SO I HAD -- HE MADE ME LOSE THE INSURANCE.
THREE WEEKS AFTER, ONE MONTH AFTER, THE WHOLE BUILDING CAUGHT
ON FIRE.
I HAD TO COME BACK.
AND THE CITY AFTER A WHILE -- SO I ENDED UP LOSING
EVERYTHING.
I DID NOT GET A DOLLAR FROM THE INSURANCE.
I CAME BACK, AND THEN WITH THE BURN, THE CITY ASKED ME,
PLEASE, WE NEED FOR YOU TO DEMOLISH IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
LOOK GOOD.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, I HAVE A DREAM.
I AM AN OWNER WITH A LOT OF SHOPPING CENTERS.
I OWN A LOT IN TEMPLE TERRACE AND AROUND FLORIDA.
I HAD A DREAM FOR THIS PROPERTY WITH THE LEASE GOING TO GO
UP WITH THE GROCERY STORE, I WAS GOING TO DEMOLISH IT AND
REBUILD IT AGAIN, BUT I ENDED UP LOSING -- I FOUGHT THE CASE
AND COST ME $700,000 TO $800,000 ATTORNEY FEES TRYING TO GET
MY BUILDING BACK.
WHY THE BUILDING GOT BURNED.
HE MADE ME LOSE THE INSURANCE.
CAME UP WITH ZERO.
I LOST EVERYTHING.
I DID NOT GET A DOLLAR BUT $700,000 FOR THE ATTORNEY FEES
THAT I HAVE PROOF OF THAT.
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, I WANTED TO BUILD THE PLAZA.
I HAD A DREAM.
I OWN A CASH CHECKING PLACE.
BUT THEY HAVE A LEASE UP TO, I THINK, 2031.
ACE CHECK CASHING PLACE.
SO I CAME BACK AND SAID I WOULD DO A L-SHAPED PLAZA FACING
THAT WAY ON 40th.
IF YOU WANT ME TO GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO HILLSBOROUGH
TO MAKE IT LOOK -- TO STAND OUT.
I WAS GOING -- READY TO BUILD IT.
I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE BANK.
I AM READY TO REBUILD IT, AND I WANT TO MAKE THIS CORNER
HONESTLY -- I AM A REAL ESTATE GUY BESIDE THE 300 LOCATIONS
I OWN AROUND THE COUNTRY.
I KNOW THE RETAIL IS VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH RETAIL.
I WANTED TO MAKE THIS CORNER STAND OUT.
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, I WANTED TO DO THE PROJECT.
I TRULY WANT TO DO IT FACING THE SIDEWALK ESPECIALLY ON
THAT CORNER LIKE THAT.
I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT MY
EXPERIENCE.
IT WOULD GIVE ME 60% CHANCE OR MAYBE 55% FOR ME TO FAIL, FOR
ME TO GRAB THE RIGHT TENANTS IN THERE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TENANTS.
I OWN SHOPPING CENTERS ON FOWLER WITH FOOT LOCKER, JIMMY JOHN'S,
ALL THAT STUFF.
I WAS GOING TO GET THE BEST RETAIL LOCATION OF THESE TENANTS
AND GET THIS CORNER TO STAND OUT OVER ON HILLSBOROUGH.
I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.
AND I WAS HOPING TO GET IT APPROVED, IF WE CAN, BECAUSE I AM
READY TO DO THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO -- FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, IT
HAD NOTHING BUT ISSUES.
ONE PERSON FROM MY OFFICE JUST TO KEEP VISITING VACANT SITES
I OWN AROUND THE CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING BUT ISSUES.
WE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE SO MANY TIMES TRYING TO GET THIS
PERSON OUT FROM SELLING THIS OR THIS GUY IS PARKING HIS
18-WHEELERS OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
SO, YEAH, THAT -- SO I HOPE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN, I
WAS READY TO GET THE PROJECT GOING.
01:43:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
-- SORRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
01:43:52PM >> PRETTY MUCH THAT'S IT.
01:43:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:43:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE BUILDING THAT WAS THERE THAT BURNED
DOWN, HOW DID IT FACE?
SET BACK ON THE PROPERTY FACING HILLSBOROUGH?
01:44:04PM >> NO, IT WAS SITTING IN THE BACK.
SO ALL THE PARKING WAS IN THE FRONT.
01:44:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FACING HILLSBOROUGH IS WHERE THE PARKING
WAS?
01:44:12PM >> FACING HILLSBOROUGH, THE PARKING.
THAT IS WHERE THE PARKING WAS.
I THINK IT WAS A WINN-DIXIE BACK THEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT WHEN I PURCHASED IT, IT WAS
MORE LIKE A LOCAL SUPERMARKET.
I WAS JUST LEASING IT OUT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT BUILDING, I ENDED UP LOSING IT.
ASIDE FROM THE PROPERTY -- I BOUGHT IT FREE AND CLEAR, AND I
DID NOT GET A DIKKAR OUT OF IT.
SINCE THEN I AM UP TO THE PROPERTY BECAUSE ONE OF THE FAMOUS
PROPERTIES I WANTED TO OWN FOR A LONG, LONG TIME HONESTLY.
TAMPA HAPPENED, WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THE BUILDING GOT BURNED.
AND I JUST WANT TO REBUILD A BRAND-NEW BUILDING.
KIND OF SITS HIGH AND HONESTLY -- I AM NOT GOING TO GO THE
CHEAP WAY TO BUILD THAT BUILDING.
IT WILL BE SOMETHING VERY NICE AND WILL STAND OUT.
01:44:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS?
SO I HAVE A QUESTION.
01:44:59PM >> YES.
01:45:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL REASON FOR NOT BEING ABLE
TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS?
THERE IS A CODE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE
REQUIREMENTS.
YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY REASON WHY YOU CAN'T.
JUST THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO.
01:45:12PM >> HONESTLY, TWO REASONS, THE SITTING ON THE CORNER LIKE
THAT.
I FIGURED THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT RETAIL.
ACE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR LOCATION.
THEY SAID THIS IS ONE OF OUR BEST LOCATIONS.
SECOND, WE OWN -- WE OWN OVER 300 LOCATIONS AROUND THE
COUNTRY THAT OTHER SOURCES -- I PICKED UP FROM OTHER
LANDLORDS WHERE I CREATED MY SALES OUT OF IT.
IT WAS ONE OF THE LOWEST -- LOWEST PRODUCTION STORES AND
CUSTOMERS WANT TO FACE -- DEPENDS ALSO ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO EACH AREA WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I FEEL LIKE I AM GOING TO HAVE A HUGE RISK OF LEASING THE
SPACES COMPARED TO HAVING IT THE OTHER WAY WHICH I HAVE THE
RIGHT TENANTS TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY.
THIS IS 100% MY EXPERIENCE.
01:46:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU -- THAT'S NOT AN ACTUAL REASON THAT
WE CAN USE.
FINANCES AREN'T A REASON THAT WE CAN USE TO --
01:46:16PM >> I'M NOT TALKING OF FINANCES -- WELL, AS AN INVESTOR, FOR
ME TO -- TO BE EXCITED TO MAKE MY MOVE, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY
I CAN GUARANTEE THAT THE TENANTS TO COME -- TO COME AND SIGN
LEASES COMPARED TO -- TO OTHER WAYS.
I KIND OF SAW IT IN OTHER CITIES.
IT WAS NEVER -- TO ME, THAT'S NEVER SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT CAME
TO RETAIL.
01:46:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT --
01:46:39PM >> I CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE, LIKE --
01:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, BUT, AGAIN, FINANCES HAVE NOTHING TO
DO WITH THIS.
WE CAN NOT CONSIDER FINANCES.
01:46:46PM >> SURE.
01:46:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN ONLY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE --
I MEAN, WE CAN ONLY CONSIDER WHAT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION -- OR
WHAT THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY IS.
I WILL LET COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG, DO YOU WANT TO --
01:47:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I GUESS -- I AM TRYING -- I WANT TO HEAR WHAT
EXACTLY IS IT THAT THE -- MR. COTTON HAD PUT THE PHOTO UP
WHERE YOU ARE JUST TAKING THE BUILDING AND PUTTING IT ON THE
OTHER SIDE.
WHY CAN'T YOU DO THAT?
IS THERE -- TO FIT IN WITH THE OVERLAY.
SO EAST TAMPA OVERLAY IS THERE -- IT IS THERE FOR A REASON.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY CAN'T YOU JUST APPLY OR
COMPLY WITH WHAT THE OVERLAY DISTRICT HAS AND DO IT THIS
WAY?
TO PUT THE PARKING IN THE BACK.
BECAUSE JUST -- BE SWITCHING BUILDING, ONE, THIS IS WHAT
EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY WANTS.
THEY WANT CORRIDORS THAT ARE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY.
THEY WANT TO WALK UP INTO THE SPACE.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO
WHAT IS HERE?
01:48:06PM >> ALSO, THE CHECK CASHING PLACE, I TOLD THEM I HAVE A PLAN.
I WANT TO REDEVELOP MY PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE A SMALL PORTION, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A LEASE.
THEY CAME BACK AND THEY -- HIS ATTORNEY CAME BACK AND SAID
THAT -- FOR YOU TO HAVE ALSO SOMETHING CLOSE TO MY BUILDING
LIKE THAT, I HAVE A RIGHT TO COME BACK AND SUE YOU IF I --
IF I FEEL LIKE I AM GOING TO -- GOING TO LOSE BUSINESS AND
STUFF LOOK THAT.
SO HAVING IT ALSO CLOSE TO THAT, THAT COULD CREATE A HUGE
ISSUE WITH ME WITH ACE, COMPARING ME SENDING IT DOWN FAR
AWAY FROM THEM WHERE I CAN START MY PROJECT RIGHT AWAY.
01:48:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. COTTON, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU?
01:48:53PM >>ERIC COTTON:
YES, MA'AM.
01:48:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE THE REQUIRED SETBACKS BETWEEN THEM
AND THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER?
01:49:00PM >>ERIC COTTON:
NOT THE SAME ZONING LAW.
THIS IS -- AS FAR AS I KNOW, THIS IS A ZONED PARCEL I.D.
THERE IS NO -- A BUILDING SEPARATION BY THE FIRE CODE, WHICH
IS PROBABLY -- I KNOW FOR RESIDENTIAL IS FIVE FEET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR COMMERCIAL.
FIVE TO TEN FEET PROBABLY BETWEEN --
01:49:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS COMPLETELY LEGAL USING THE SETBACKS THAT 01:49:21PM ARE REQUIRED BY CODE?
01:49:23PM >>ERIC COTTON:
CORRECT, THE SETBACKS REQUIRED BY CODE
REQUIRED BY THE PROPERTY LINES THAT IT IS ON.
01:49:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CORRECT.
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
ARE YOU A PART OF THE TEAM?
01:49:44PM >> YES.
01:49:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT YOU HAVE
PLENTY OF TIME YET IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN
SPEAK, BUT PART OF THAT 15 MINUTES.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO SPEAK BUT NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT IS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
01:49:59PM >> SORRY, MY BAD.
01:50:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
SORRY, HOW MUCH TIME DO THEY HAVE LEFT?
FIVE MINUTES AND 35 SECONDS.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
01:50:09PM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO BOSCH.
I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER HELPING HIM ON THIS PROJECT.
WE STARTED THE DESIGN INITIALLY.
WE CAME UP WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE.
WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY THE HURDLES WE WERE GOING TO
HAVE, NOT COMPLYING WITH THE CODE.
AND THERE ARE REASONS, TECHNICAL REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T WANT
TO JUST SHIFT THE BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
ONE OF THEM WAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THERE IS AN EASEMENT,
CURRENTLY AN EASEMENT, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF
ACCESS AS REQUIRED BY THE FIRE CODE.
WE WILL NEED TO GO OVER THAT EASEMENT.
THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ENCROACHING INTO THE
NEIGHBORS IF WE SHIFT THE DRIVEWAY TOWARD THE EAST SIDE.
WE WILL BE ENCROACHING TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY
LINE, AND CERTAIN DISTANCE SINCE YOU ARE IN EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, CERTAIN DISTANCE WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH
THE DRIVEWAYS.
THIS COULD CREATE A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF INTERNAL TRAFFIC
CIRCULATION FOR VEHICLES, AND -- AND GARBAGE TRUCKS TO PICK
UP THE -- THE TRASH AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ALL THE RETAIL I
HAVE SEEN, BASICALLY, THEY HAVE THE PARKING IN FRONT AND THE
BUILDING ON THE REAR, MOST OF THEM.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.
AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT A POINT OF DISCUSSION HERE, BUT I
THINK OVERALL IT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT IS A COMBINATION.
CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT COLLECTING TOO
MUCH TAX MONEY ON THIS PROPERTY.
IF WE BRING THIS DEVELOPMENT IN, IT WILL -- IT WILL BRING A
GOOD CHUNK OF TAX TO THE CITY AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC WITH
THIS LAYOUT MARKED IN BLUE WILL BE MINIMUM DISTANCE
BETWEEN EXISTING BUILDING AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
REDUCTION OF PARKING.
BECAUSE THIS CONFIGURATION, IT WILL BE -- THE AMOUNT OF
PARKING THAT WE CAN HAVE IS PRETTY MUCH LESS.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS TO CONSIDER AND WHY WE DID THE
LAYOUT THE WAY IT WAS DONE.
YES, THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
01:52:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ACTUALLY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
ON THIS ITEM?
01:52:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
SOUNDS A WHOLE LOT OF I WANT WHAT I WANT TO D, AND I DON'T
GIVE A CRAP OF WHAT YOUR RULES ARE.
THAT IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
THE GENTLEMAN SAT HERE AND SAID HE HAS GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT
ISSUES ALL OVER TOWN.
HAVING TO RUN PEOPLE OFF OF HIS OTHER VACANT LOTS.
SO HE WANTS TO SET THIS UP THE WAY HE WANTS TO SET IT UP, AND
HE DOESN'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
WANTED.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T SAY IT, HE SAID IT.
SO, I -- I THINK THAT -- IF THE FOLKS FROM EAST TAMPA WERE
ACTUALLY HERE, THEY WOULD SAY WE SET UP THE OVERLAY FOR A
REASON, AND WE ASKED FOR THIS FOR A REASON, AND THIS GUY JUST
WANTS TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:53:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STAFF.
ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
01:53:42PM >>ERIC COTTON:
NO, MA'AM, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
01:53:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE PUSH THAT UP.
THANK YOU.
YOU ARE GOOD.
YOU CAN TAKE THAT.
OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE APPLICANT FOR PETITIONER?
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND.
PLEASE START AGAIN WITH YOUR NAME.
01:54:00PM >> MY NAME IS FAYED MUBAREK, 4001 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
HAVING THE PROPERTY SHAPING THAT WAY.
AND ONE THING MORE ABOUT THE ACE, I KNOW IT IS NOT
FINANCIAL, BUT ACE, FOR ME TO START MY PROPERTY, THEY HAVE
UP TO 2031 ON THEIR LEASE.
I CANNOT PULL THAT.
FOR ME TO DO IT THE WAY YOU GUYS WANT IT, THERE IS NO WAY I
CAN MOVE WITH IT.
YOU SEE THE BUILDING AND HOW IT SITS.
AND I HAVE A LETTER FROM THEM, FROM THEIR ATTORNEY WHEN WE
TRIED TO DO THE PROJECT TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE WE KNEW ALL
THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THEY PRETTY MUCH ARE CONCERNED WITH THE PERSON HANDLING A LOT
OF THE STUFF FOR ME.
HE WAS THE ONE DEALING WITH THEM.
THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY SAID IF WE FIND OUT AN INTERRUPTION
OR IF YOU LOCK US UP OR WHATEVER -- THEY SAY WE CAN'T CREATE
OUR OWN, WE HAVE THE RIGHTS TO GO BACK TO YOU AND -- TO
BE -- YOU KNOW, TO -- WHATEVER THE MONEY THEY FEEL LIKE THEY
LOSS.
TRULY, I WANT TO DO THE PROJECT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE
FIGHTING IN COURT WITH OTHER TENANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WHEN WE DID THAT, WE KEEP -- WE EVEN PROMISED THEM IN
THE NEAR FUTURE THAT WHEN YOUR LEASE IS UP, IF YOU WANTED TO
TAKE ONE OF THE CORNERS ON OTHER SIDE, WE WILL BE WILLING TO
DO THAT.
WE HAVE THAT APPROVED ON PAPER.
SO I JUST CAN'T -- THERE IS NO WAY I CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
THIS PROJECT HAVING THEM CORNERED LIKE THAT.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO AGREE.
AND NEXT THING WE WILL HAVE A FIGHT IN COURT WITH THEIR
ATTORNEY ABOUT US LOCKING THEM FROM HAVING THE BUSINESS IN
THERE.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING AS YOU SEE, WHEN YOU SEE IT ON THE
PICTURE.
WE ALMOST SLIDE THEM UP IN THE CORNER LIKE THAT.
THERE IS NO WEIGH WE CAN DO THE PROJECT.
IF WE WISH IT BACK THE OTHER WAY AROUND, DEFINITELY STILL
GOING TO HAVE THE ACCESS POINT.
CUSTOMER BY THE STORE AND LEAVE THE WAY IT IS SHAPED.
01:55:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
01:55:58PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:56:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER
SAYING THAT THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THE CODE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:56:19PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HE IS TALKING
ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
01:56:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
01:56:28PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
YOU ARE ONLY CONFINED TO THE CITY
OF TAMPA CODE AND THOSE REGULATIONS.
01:56:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OUR CODE IS THE CODE.
AND YOU CAN'T SUE FOR NOT -- ANYWAY.
APPRECIATE IT.
ANY -- OKAY.
SO APPLICANT, PETITIONER, YOU ARE FINISHED WITH YOUR
REBUTTAL?
OKAY.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
01:56:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.
01:56:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
01:57:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OKAY.
OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
01:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN
THE DENIAL.
LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
WHY THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE.
THE REASON I ASKED WHAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY BEFORE, AND IT
WAS THAT GROCERY STORE THAT WAS SET BACK WITH THE PARKING
LOT IN THE FRONT LIKE WE TRADITIONALLY SEE.
BUT THAT BUILDING BURNED DOWN.
HAD THAT BUILDING NOT BURNED DOWN, THAT BUILDING WOULD EXIST
IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION AND LOOK WHAT HE IS TRYING TO
DO NOT IN AN L-SHAPED BUT NOT TO THE OVERLAY STANDARDS.
01:57:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THE BUILDING BURNT DOWN.
01:57:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT IF THE BUILDING WOULD NOT HAVE
BURNED DOWN, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ADHERED TO THE EAST TAMPA
OVERLAY STANDARDS.
01:57:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, BUT --
01:57:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GRANDFATHERED IN.
01:57:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IT IS NOT.
IT IS JUST NOT.
01:57:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS MY MOTION.
01:57:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, GO FOR IT.
01:57:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL AT FILE NO. DE1-25-160-C FOR 4001
EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO GRANT THE REQUEST
TO ALLOW THE FRONT YARD SETBACK TO BE A MAXIMUM OF
138 FEET TO ALLOW THE PRINCIPAL FRONT FACADE TO NOT FACE THE
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLOW PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD
BECAUSE THE ASK MEETS THE CRITERIA IN 27-606 FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASONS: SAND ANOTHER -- BEFORE I GET INTO THAT.
THAT CORNER PROPERTY HE SAYS HAS THE LEASE TO 2031 HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT YOU HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDING
ON THAT CORNER.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES IT UNIQUE.
NOT JUST AN EMPTY -- COMPLETELY EMPTY LOT.
LET'S SEE HERE.
SO THE PETITION FOR -- THE PETITIONER MUST BE AN AGGRIEVED
PERSON AS DEFINED IN THIS CHAPTER WHO PARTICIPATED BY TIMELY
SUBMITTING EVIDENCE OR BY OTHERWISE PROVIDING SWORN
TESTIMONY, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION PROCESS FOR WHICH THE
DECISION WAS RENDERED.
SO WE HAVE SOME UNIQUE SITUATIONS.
FIRST, YOU HAVE THAT CORNER PARCEL WHERE THE CHECK CASHING
PLACE IS AT.
THAT, I THINK, WOULD OBSTRUCT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND
THE L-SHAPE THAT WAS PROVIDED THE ALTERNATIVE BY MR. COTTON.
SECOND, THE ORIGINAL BUILDING THAT WAS THERE, GROCERY STORE
OR WHATEVER IT WAS, IT SAT BACK ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE
PARKING LOT GOING ALL THE WAY TO HILLSBOROUGH.
IF THAT BUILDING WOULD NOT ARE BURNED DOWN, THIS PROPERTY
WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT WAS AS WINN-DIXIE AND STAYED LIKE
THAT WITH A DIFFERENT OR NEW TENANT.
BECAUSE OF THAT -- IF IT WAS JUST AN EMPTY LOT AND TRYING TO
RECONFIGURE IT, TO BE DIFFERENT.
BUT IT IS ALWAYS HAS BEEN A COMMERCIAL LOT THAT SERVED
COMMUNITY AND A GROCERY STORE AND IN THIS CASE SAT EMPTY.
BURNT DOWN.
DEMOLISHED.
I HATE TO SEE AN EMPTY LOT ON A BUSY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR
LIKE HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
IT SHOULD BE LIKE A DALE MABRY.
AN UNIT WHERE WE CAN BRING LIFE TO THE PARCEL.
PAWN SHOP ACROSS THE STREET THAT SERVES THE COMMUNITY.
CHECK CASHING ACROSS THE STREET OR ON THE PROPERTY SERVES
THE COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, THAT -- THOSE ARE MY REASONS.
02:00:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE --
02:00:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL SECOND IT.
02:00:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A SECOND
BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
IS THERE ANY -- ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THAT?
02:00:29PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DO NOT AGREE.
I THINK THAT -- ESPECIALLY KNOWING -- LITERALLY, I WAS JUST AT
A MEETING -- I WAS SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE FROM EAST TAMPA,
COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THEY WANT TO ACTIVATE THOSE CORRIDORS.
TO HAVE SPACES WHERE YOU CAN WALK UP TO, YOU KNOW,
BUSINESSES.
AND -- AND THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, IT IS THERE FOR A REASON,
REGARDLESS WHETHER WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT, IT IS NOT ANYMORE.
IT IS NOT THERE.
EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, AS MR. COTTON WAS SAYING, IT IS
TO MAKE IT MORE PETITIONED-FRIENDLY.
THIS IS NOT PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY.
SO I -- WHATEVER WAS THERE BEFORE, I DON'T AGREE.
EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT IS THERE FOR IS A REASON.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN PLACE.
AND THE MORE THAT WE CAN ABIDE BY IT, WE SHOULD DO THAT.
02:01:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY.
I WILL SAY, AGAIN, THIS IS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.
THE OVERLAY HAS ASKED TO -- FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS TO BE BUILT
TO THE CORRECT -- TO HAVE BUILDINGS UP FRONT, PARKING IN THE
BACK.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AND
WE DECIDED TO IGNORE IT.
WE CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN TO EAST TAMPA.
THAT -- I AM SORRY THIS PERSON DOESN'T WANT TO BUILD IT, BUT
THEY CAN BUILD IT.
IT IS A CHOICE.
AND THEY ARE CHOOSING NOT TO FOLLOW THE CITY CODE.
02:02:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND I WILL -- SORRY.
02:02:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO AHEAD, COUNCILWOMAN.
02:02:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT WE DEVELOP THIS LOT.
IT IS A EMPTY LOT.
I DO NOT WANT IT TO STAND AS AN EMPTY LOT.
BUT AT SOME POINT -- IT IS NOT HARD FOR JUST DO IT THE RIGHT
WAY OR WHATEVER.
IT IS NOT HARD TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
02:02:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCUSE ME, I AM SORRY.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
THIS IS A CLOSED HEARING.
02:02:29PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
GREAT TO DEVELOP THE LAND, BUT DO IT THE WAY
THE COMMUNITY WANTS IT TO BE DONE.
02:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:02:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IN MY MIND, AND I
UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE OVERLAY, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
WALKING UP, HOW MANY RESIDENTS DO WE HAVE IN 4001 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE?
02:02:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PEOPLE LIVE BEHIND THAT.
YEAH, THAT IS WHERE THE NEIGHBORS ARE.
02:02:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM ASKING A QUESTION AND LOOKING FOR AN
ANSWER.
02:03:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REOPEN THE HEARING?
02:03:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
02:03:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
02:03:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
02:03:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:03:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
02:03:15PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
02:03:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
02:03:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
02:03:20PM >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILS.
02:03:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE RECORD.
02:03:28PM >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILS WITH MIRANDA, HURTAK, YOUNG, AND
CARLSON VOTING NO.
AND CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
02:03:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT MOTION DOESN'T PASS.
CAN SOMEONE ELSE TRY ANOTHER MOTION?
02:03:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOTION TO UPHOLD THE DENIAL.
02:03:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GIVE IT AND PEOPLE CAN ADD IF THEY WANT TO.
02:03:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO, I MOTION TO UPHOLD THE DENIAL.
I MOVE TO AFFIRM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF FILE
NO. DE1-25-160-C FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4001 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE BECAUSE THE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO GRANT THE REQUEST TO
ALLOW THE FRONT YARD SETBACK TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 138 FEET TO
ALLOW THE PRINCIPAL FRONT FACADE TO NOT FACE THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLOW PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD BECAUSE THE
REQUESTS DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA CODE SECTION 27-60 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
DOES NOT FOLLOW THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
02:04:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
02:04:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND ENSURING -- OR, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THE
CORRIDOR MORE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY.
THAT'S ENOUGH.
OKAY.
02:04:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID THEY MEET THEIR BURDEN NECESSARY TO
SHOW -- TO BE ABLE TO OVERTURN -- DID THEY PROVIDE EVIDENCE
TO MEET THEIR BURDEN?
02:05:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID THEY PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE --
02:05:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NOT FOR ME.
NO.
02:05:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
02:05:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:05:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
02:05:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I WILL ADD AN AMENDMENT THAT THE -- THE EXCEPTIONS ARE NOT
CONSISTENT WITH -- WITH THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND THAT
THEY INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
AND ACTUALLY, NEVER MIND.
THAT'S OKAY.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS?
OKAY.
SO I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL -- SORRY, VIERA -- NO, CARLSON.
I APOLOGIZE, CARSON.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
02:06:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
02:06:10PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
02:06:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
02:06:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:06:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
02:06:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:06:24PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND VIERA VOTING NO
AND CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
02:06:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 50.
INCLUDING IN ITEM 50 -- SORRY, ADMINISTRATION UPDATE IS ITEM
NUMBER 27, TALK ABOUT PIER AT, I THINK, PALONIS PARK.
WE WILL HAVE THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
IS MR. FOWLER AVAILABLE?
02:07:10PM >>TED FOWLER:
YES, I'M HERE.
02:07:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
SORRY.
THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAMERA ON.
THERE YOU ARE.
02:07:15PM >>TED FOWLER:
HOW ARE YOU Y'ALL DOING.
02:07:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOING WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:07:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. FOWLER.
02:07:43PM >>TED FOWLER:
YES, I'M HERE.
02:07:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ON AN
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE ON PIERS?
02:07:50PM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN UPDATE YOU ON PICNIC ISLAND PIER.
WE -- I DID CHECK, AND WE DO, IN FACT, HAVE INSTRUMENTS ON
THAT PARTICULAR PIER.
SO WE HAVE AN INSTRUMENT, A PARTS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR,
TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:30 TO START THE PROCESS.
02:08:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
02:08:07PM >>TED FOWLER:
WHEN I HAVE AN UPDATE, I WILL GIVE YOU MORE
INFORMATION,BUT RIGHT NOW THEY WILL GO OUT AND IN THE IT AND SEE
WHAT THE DAMAGE IS AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
02:08:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
TNI, CAN YOU HAVE MR. FOWLER UP ON SCREEN?
ALWAYS NICE TO SEE PEOPLE.
YES, JUST A SECOND.
THERE WE GO.
GO RIGHT AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:08:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. FOWLER, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH
SEVERAL OF US COUPLE OF DAYS AGO ABOUT PIERS.
CAN YOU JUST, IN 30 SECONDS, TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT IS HAPPENING
WITH BALLAST POINT PIER 2 BECAUSE I'M GETTING SO MANY
REQUESTS.
YOU TOLD US THE OTHER DAY, AND I HAVE BEEN GIVING ANSWERS TO
FOLKS AND TELL EVERYBODY.
02:08:50PM >>TED FOWLER:
I WILL REFER TO MR. MUTTERBACK OR MIKE PERRY IS
ON LINE, ANDTHEY CAN FILL YOU IN.
02:08:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. MUTTERBACK?
OH, MR. PERRY.
02:09:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. PERRY, JUST ASKING IF YOU CAN GIVE THE
PUBLIC A 30-SECOND UPDATE WHERE WE ARE ON BALLAST POINT, AND
HOW LONG IT WILL TACK TO GET IT REPAIRED OR REPLACED.
02:09:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN NOT HEAR YOU, MR.
PERRY.
02:09:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LIKE A PILOT AT SOUTHWEST.
02:09:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAYS GREEN.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO TEST.
02:09:47PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
TEST, TEST.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
02:09:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO WORRIES.
02:09:50PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
MIKE PERRY, CHIEF DEPUTY FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH FEMA ON OBTAINING AUTHORIZATION TO
PROCEED ON THE REPAIRS OF BALLAST POINT PIER.
ON SEPTEMBER 26, THE CITY OF TAMPA REQUESTED A REPLACEMENT
AND REQUESTED 50% ON SEPTEMBER 26.
SINCE THEN, WE HAVE NOT HEARD UNTIL TWO DAYS AGO.
FEMA CHANGED THEIR LOCAL MANAGEMENT IN JANUARY.
THEY SEEMED TO BE MUCH MORE RESPONSIVE.
BUT, AGAIN, WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE MONEY FROM FEMA, WE ARE
GOING TO HAVE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEIR
RULES.
THIS PROJECT AND EVEN TO FIRE STATION 17 IS CONSIDERED A
MAJOR PROJECT UNDER FEMA RULES.
A MAJOR PROJECT IS ONE THAT COSTS MORE THAN $1 MILLION.
SO THEY WILL BE REVIEWING EVERY STEP OF OUR BIG PROCESS.
HOW WE SELECT THE DESIGN BID FIRM OR THE ARCHITECTS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
I AM AFRAID IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY SLOW PROCESS BEFORE WE
GET THIS -- THE PIER REBUILT, REPAIRED, REBUILT.
02:11:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHORT ANSWER FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT THE
DELAY HAS BEEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET FEMA APPROVAL,
BECAUSE FEMA IS HELPING TO FUND IT.
02:11:12PM >>MICHAEL PERRY FEMA IS FUNDING IT 100%, THAT'S CORRECT.
02:11:19PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF HOW LONG
IT WILL TAKE TO REPAIR IT?
02:11:26PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
WE -- STAFF WENT THROUGH A SHORT LISTING OF
THE DESIGN-BUILD FIRM.
SO WE HAVE SHORT LISTED THAT.
NOW, WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR FEMA TO COME ON BOARD AND REVIEW
OUR PROCESSES.
LIKE ANY DESIGN BID -- DESIGN BUILD PROJECT, IT WILL
PROBABLY TAKE A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS TO DESIGN AND MAYBE UP TO
TWO YEARS TO CONSTRUCT.
DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT.
I AM NOT A PIER ENGINEER.
BUT IT WILL BE A -- PROBABLY ABOUT -- GOING BETWEEN THREE TO
FOUR YEARS.
02:12:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
I THINK IT IS BETTER TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT -- WHAT IT MIGHT BE
AND THEN IF IT ENDS UP BEING SHORTER, THAT IS BETTER.
BUT FOLKS CAN THINK IT CAN BE EASILY REPAIRED WITHIN A
COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND IT IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS.
AND PICNIC ISLAND IS OUT.
PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT.
02:12:24PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
MR. CARSON, WE ARE NOT TALKING OF REPAIRING IT.
WE ARE TALKING OF REPLACING IT.
02:12:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT IS THE THING.
PEOPLE THINK YOU CAN JUST GO IN AND FIX IT.
AND THEN, MR. FOWLER, CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION?
FOR THE FOLKS IN SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY, WHERE WILL YOU
RECOMMEND THEY GO FOR ANOTHER PIER IN THE CITY?
02:12:47PM >>TED FOWLER:
IN SOUTH TAMPA, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I KNOW IT IS SALTWATER -- FRESH WATER FISHING, BUT WE ARE
DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
I'M MEETING WITH INSURANCE ADJUSTER TOMORROW AND I HOPE, PICNIC
ISLAND.
02:13:04PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OTHER PARKS IN THE CITY YOU CAN RECOMMEND?
02:13:07PM >>TED FOWLER:
THEY CAN GO OFF OF THE PIER OF DESOTO PARK AND
PALMETTO BEACH.
AL LOPEZ PARK HAS FISHING PIERS.
WILLIAMS PARK HAS FISHING MATERIALS.
GASTON PARK HAS A NEW FISHING -- FLOATING DOCK THEY CAN GO
TO.
02:13:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I CAN MEET YOU WITH YOU OFF-LINE BUT MAY PUT
A SIGN ON EACH ONE OF THESE OR ON A WEB SITE AND GIVE IT TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES.
WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS ALL OVER THE CITY.
EVEN THOUGH NOT ONE TEN MINUTES AWAY BUT WITHIN 30 MINUTES
THEY CAN GET TO A VERY NICE ONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:13:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR POSSIBLY MR. PERRY AND/OR MR. FOWLER.
SO THE CITY OF TAMPA PUT OUT A NEWS RELEASE IN EARLY
SEPTEMBER THAT BASICALLY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING
TO PUT FULL-STRENGTH IN THE PILING, THE PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL
SYSTEMS WILL ALSO CAN UPGRADED AND ALL PIER BOARDS WILL BE
PLACED.
FISH CLEANING STATIONS WILL BE BETTER THAN EVER.
NEXT STEP IS THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS TO HIRE A
DESIGN-BUILD TEAM FOR PROBABLY AND DESIGN SAND CONSTRUCTION
WILL FOLLOW.
DOESN'T GIVE AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE AND WENT AHEAD AND
DUG UP THE DESIGN-BUILD RFQ.
LOOKS LIKE THE RFQ FOR $14 MILLION TO $17 MILLIO,N AND WE
HAVE LIKE LOOKS LIKE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX
CONTRACTING COMPANIES.
I MEAN IN THIS -- IN THIS PRESS RELEASE, NEVER TALKS ABOUT
FEMA.
DID WE AT ONE TIME BELIEVE THAT FEMA WAS NO GOING TO FUND
THIS?
MR. PERRY, YOU ARE MUTED AGAIN.
NOPE.
NOPE.
NOPE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU.
YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON.
02:15:44PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
02:15:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU, GREAT.
02:15:49PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
OKAY, ESSENTIALLY, HURRICANE HELENE AND
MILTON, BALLAST POINT PIER WAS ALWAYS A PROJECT DESTINED TO
BE FUNDED BY FEMA.
IT HAS BEEN OUR APPROACH EVER SINCE.
02:16:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I WOULD JUST -- THIS ENTIRE PIECE THAT
WAS SENT -- SENT OUT DOESN'T MENTION THE FACT WE WOULD HAVE
TO WAIT FOR FEMA.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MENTIONED.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE TITLE OF THIS "PROJECT TO RESTORE THE
BALLAST POINT PIER HAS BEGUN."
GIVING PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION IT IS COMING SOON.
IF WE HADN'T ASKED QUESTIONS, WE WOULD STILL BE I WAITING.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS KIND OF FLOWS RIGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION
WITH ITEM NUMBER 27.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. FOWLER, FOR TALKING ABOUT THE
INSURANCE.
IT IS GREAT TO HEAR THAT.
BUT CANDY AND PALONIS PARK IMPROVEMENTS, IT CLEARLY SAYS
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DOCK AND ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND
ESPECIALLY NOW THE TWO DOCKS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT PEOPLE
CANNOT REACH BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, IN THEY HAVE GONE INTO
DISREPAIR.
THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS DOCK IS SO IMPORTANT.
CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT IN THE INITIAL DESIGN,
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PIER, SUPPOSED TO BE ALL THESE
AMENITIES THAT ARE NO LONGER ON THIS PLAN.
CAN YOU -- CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
AND HOW YOU PLAN TO MAKE THIS WHOLE?
BECAUSE THAT IS STILL WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS EXPECTING.
02:17:26PM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE $300,000
CONTINGENCY AND THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE IT
INSTALLED AND THE SEWER SYSTEM THE WAY IT NEEDSTO BE.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE SPENDING IT ALL AND EXACTLY WHERE WE
WILL PUT THE DOCK AMENITY IN.
IF WE DO FALL SHORT, WE WILL FIND SOME WAY IN OUR BUDGET TO
MAKE THAT WHOLE.
BUT WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE WON'T SPEND THAT $200,000.
AND SET IT ASIDE JUST IN CASE.
AS WE HAVE SEEN LIKE SATURDAY, THINGS COULD CHANGE IN A
MINUTE.
WE WOULD NEVER EXPECT IT TO FALL INTO THE BAY, BUT WE ARE
ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, AND WE FEEL THAT WE WILL BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT DOCK AMENITY FOR THE PUBLIC.
02:18:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE?
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:18:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY -- I KNOW A LOT THEM SAYING PARK
IN SOUTH TAMPA.
MAYBE IN SOUTH TAMPA, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU IT IS USED BY A LOT
OF PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I REMEMBER GOING FISHING THERE WHEN I WAS A KID 122 YEARS
AGO.
[LAUGHTER]
02:18:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THE DOCK ITSELF AND
THE KAYAK LAUNCH AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT -- THAT
WERE PROMISED BUT ARE NOT IN HERE ARE ONLY GOING TO COST
$200,000?
02:18:50PM >>TED FOWLER:
NO, WHAT I AM SAYING WE HAVE A $200,000
CONTINGENCY.
AND THE FACT WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE
IT AND SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH THE DOCK.
I AM NOT AWARE OF WHAT ANOTHER THINGS WERE CUT.
I KNOW THAT WE -- AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, A WATER FOUNTAIN.
WE WILL HAVE A WATER FOUNTAIN.
I CONFIRMED THAT.
AND THE DOCK WILL HAVE LIGHTS.
THE BATHROOMS DON'T NEED LIGHTS, BECAUSE THE PARK CLOSES AT
SUNSET, BUT WHAT WE WILL HAVE IS -- STAR LIGHT IN THE
BATHROOM TO PROVIDE VISIBILITY DURING THE PARK OPERATION
HOURS.
02:19:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION?
02:19:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
02:19:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:19:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
02:19:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ITEM 27?
02:19:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 27, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOR
MAKING A POINT OF THAT.
AND NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM 53.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. FOWLER.
02:19:59PM >>TED FOWLER:
THANK YOU.
02:20:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ITEM 31, MADAM CHAIR.
02:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY PASSED ITEM 31 BEFORE LUNCH.
YEP.
I BELIEVE ITEM 53 AND 54 SORT OF GO TOGETHER.
02:20:20PM >>EMMA GREGORY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 53.
AND THEN --
02:20:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
02:20:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:20:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD -- WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL UPDATES OVER
THE YEARS ABOUT HOW THERE IS A PLAN AND -- AND THE STAFF
MEET WITH THE -- WITH THE -- SOME OF FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN.
BUT FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN ARE ALL UPSET ABOUT THE PLAN.
NOBODY CAN GET THROUGH.
THERE IS GRIDLOCK.
LONG-TERM PREFERENCE BEING GIVEN TO PEDESTRIANS INSTEAD OF
CARS AT THE TURN UNDERNEATH THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT
DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE IT BACKS UP THE TRAFFIC RIGHT AWAY.
WE TALKED OF THIS FOUR OR FIVE TIMES.
CUMBERLAND COMING OUT OF THE GARAGE SO YOU CAN'T GET TO THE
SELMON.
POLICE CARS ARE THERE, AND THEY DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE ARENA
WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF ARENA.
I WOULD LIKE MAKE A THAT MOTION TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE THAT
PROHIBITS CITY STAFF FROM BLOCKING ROADS OR BLOCKING TRAFFIC
WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL'S PRIOR APPROVAL PER EVENT.
THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS WANTING TO CORRECT THIS.
AND THEY PUT THINGS IN THE DOCUMENT THAT IS REALLY
DEFENSIVE.
SIGNED AND SEALED.
NEW EXCUSES FOR EVERYTHING, SHINED AND SEALED.
LIKE THE RED LET AT GRECO PLAZA WHICH IS UNNECESSARY.
YOU CAN PAY AN ENGINEER TO PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT WE ARE
A BIG CITY NOW.
TAMPA IS A BIG CITY.
WE NEED A SYSTEM THAT WORKS.
BLOCKING THE ROADS FOR HOARDS OF PEDESTRIANS TO GO BY IS NOT
ACCEPTABLE.
BLOCKING TRAFFIC IN SOUTH TAMPA FROM PLATT STREET TO HYDE
PARK IS NOT ACCEPTABLE OR BAYSHORE.
VIK BHIDE -- I THINK HE IS AN ENGINEER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE
STATED MONTHS AGO THAT IF WE JUST ALLOW THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS
OF TO WORK DURING EVENTS, WE WOULD BE OKAY.
BUT THE WATER STREET PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY.
LIGHTNING ARE NOT HAPPY.
PEOPLE ATTENDING EVENTS.
WE HAVE TO OPEN THE ROADS.
NOT THAT YOU PULL OUT WATER STREETM AND YOU CAN'T GET ON
THE SELMON.
LAST TIME, I ALMOST GOT REDIRECTED TO THE ARENA.
I ENDED UP IN YBOR CITY TO GET OUT OF DOWNTOWN.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO LEAVE THE ROADS OPEN.
IT TAKES TWO HOURS FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT BECAUSE THE ROADS
ARE CLOSED.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ENGINEER IS COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA,
BUT IT IS WRONG.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DISCUSS THEM ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
IF THE MOBILITY STAFF OR TPD WANTS TO SHUT DOWN ROADS OTHER
THAN EMERGENCY, THEY NEED TO GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL
BECAUSE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN.
I CAN MAKE A OFFICIAL MOTION, BUT IF LEGAL WANTS TO RESPOND
TO THAT.
YOU MAY ARGUE IT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING, AND WE SET
ORDINANCES ALL THE TIME TO PROHIBIT.
THIS SHUTS DOWN THE DOWNTOWN.
IT WILL DESTROY THE BUSINESS OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND CAUSE
PEOPLE NOT TO WANT TO LIVE IN DOWNTOWN IF WE DON'T FIX
THIS.
AS SOON AS YOU ARE READY, I CAN MAKE A MOTION IF YOU WOULD
LIKE.
02:23:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW WITH Y'ALL, YOU WANT
TO HEAR OF STAFF FOR 53 AND 54.
02:23:39PM >>EMMA GREGORY:
WELL, EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I WILL TALK OF CHAPTER 28, THE SPECIAL EVENTS CODE.
AND PLEASE BEAR WITH ME, I AM GETTING OVER A STOMACH BUG.
SO I AM DOING MY BEST HERE.
CHAPTER 28, CODE OF ORDINANCES SETS OUT THE SPECIAL EVENT
PERMIT APPLICATION REVIEW PROCESS AND APPROVAL PROCESS.
PART OF APPLICATION IS SUBMISSION OF MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC 02:24:14PM PLAN.
ALL SPECIAL EVENTS ARE UNIQUE.
AND ALL OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE UNIQUE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MOBILITY STAFF AND TPD REVIEW THESE
MAINTENANCE TRAFFIC PLANS.
AND THAT'S -- THAT IS SET OUT IN THE CODE THAT THEY ARE THE
ONES TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THEM.
THEY CAN MAKE REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE EVENT, BUT
ONCE -- YOU KNOW ONCE THE APPLICATION IS DEEMED COMPLETE AND
SUFFICIENT, IT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
SO ALL OF SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
SO THERE IS CURRENTLY A METHOD IN CODE TO NOT APPROVE THEM
IF THEY ARE NOT UP TO CITY COUNCIL -- YOU KNOW, IT IS IN
YOUR DISCRETION.
02:25:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:25:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
AND YOU KNOW I AM NOT THE SMARTEST GUY IN MATH, BUT I CAN
COUNT TO TWO.
ONE AND ONE EQUALS TWO.
PROBLEM AS I SEE IT IS REALLY A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM OF TIMING.
IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN, BECAUSE THEY
DON'T ALL ARRIVE AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT?
HOWEVER, REVERSE THAT, THEY ALL LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME VOLUMES OF CARS
GOING IN SYSTEMATICALLY LITTLE BY LITTLE AS THEY GET THERE.
PEOPLE GET OFF WORK.
THEY LEAVE THE OFFICE OR WHATEVER.
BUT THEY DON'T ALL ARRIVE AT THE SAME TIME.
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T.
BUT WHEN IT EMPTIES, NO MATTER WHERE IT IS, EVERY STADIUM
AND EVERY EVENT OR EVERY LARGE VENUE EXIT AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY DO NOT ARRIVE THE SAME.
THAT'S HOW I SEE IT AROUND THE STADIUM AND HOW I SEE IT AT
THE ICE PALACE OR BENCHMARK.
AND THAT -- MAYBE I AM INCORRECT, BUT WHEN I GO THERE, I --
I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYBODY ELSE.
I ARRIVE WHEN I ARRIVE.
SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE.
BUT WHEN YOU LEAVE, EVERYBODY LEAVES AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
02:26:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
02:26:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:26:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE HAVE BECOME A BIG CITY NOW.
ONE NIGHT IN DECEMBER, I WAS AT AN ART EXHIBITION AT THE --
WHAT IS IT CALLED, ELEMENT HOTEL?
ADDITION HOTEL.
AND IN THE COURTYARD ON WATER STREET.
THAT EVENT PROBABLY HAD BEEN 1,000 PEOPLE.
IN THE COURTYARD, A WINTER WONDERLAND EVENT THAT HAD 2,000
OR 3,000 PEOPLE.
SOMETHING AT THE ICE PALACE FOR WHATEVER IT IS CALLED THAT
WAS TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER ANNUAL GALA AT THE MARRIOTT
OR J.W. MARRIOTT AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
THESE EVENTS STARTING AND STOPPING.
NOBODY CAN GET OUT OF TOWN.
PEOPLE IN HARBOUR ISLAND THAT ARE STUCK HALFWAY DOWN
BAYSHORE.
THEY CAN'T GET TO THE CONVENTION CENTER TO TURN RIGHT.
AND PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT WANT TO GET TO DOWNTOWN OR
GET AROUND DOWNTOWN.
BUT PLATT STREET AND TO SOME EXTENT KENNEDY AND BAYSHORE ARE
COMPLETELY BLOCKED.
NO EXCUSE WHY BAYSHORE SHOULD BE BLOCKED.
IF BAYSHORE -- IF IT IS OKAY AND NORMAL THAT BAYSHORE SHOULD
BE BLOCKED.
WE SHOULDN'T BUILD THINGS DOWNTOWN.
OTHER CITIES DON'T SHUT DOWN THEIR ROADS LIKE THIS.
RIDICULOUS.
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO GET OUT.
WHAT I WANT TO DO -- I READ CHAPTER 28, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
ADD SOMETHING ON TOP OF THAT THAT MAKES IT MORE EXPLICIT AS
AN APPROVAL FOR SHUT DOWN.
I WANT TO SET UP A DETERRENT FOR ANYBODY TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
IT LOOKS ARBITRARY.
ENGINEERS AND TRAFFIC PLANNERS I TALK TO SAYS IT RIDICULOUS
THE WAY THIS IS BEING DONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS IT BEING DONE.
SHORTAGE OF FLAVORS.
PEOPLE NEED FLAVORS ALL OVER THE CITY AND SENDING THEM UP
BLOCKING ROADS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BY.
IF I CAN SEE THE SELMON 100 YARDS WHERE I AM AND TURN AROUND
AND GO TO YBOR BECAUSE SOMEONE ARBITRARY SHUT OFF THE ROAD,
THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
PROBLEM -- I SAID IT MANY TIMES BEFORE, THE PROBLEM BACKED
UP TO BAYSHORE, SHUTTING DOWN AND LIMITED PEDESTRIANS HAVE
GONE BY.
YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS LETTING
PEDESTRIANS GO ACROSS AND NOT LET PEOPLE TURN RIGHT, BECAUSE
IT BACKS UP EVERYBODY.
AND THEY DO THE SAME THING AT PAM IORIO GARAGE.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO KEEP COMING BACK EVERY FEW MONTHS,
AND SAY WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, AND IT IS FINAL.
IT IS NOT FINE.
PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN AND CAN'T GET TO THEIR HOUSES.
BUSINESSES ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO THEM.
WATER STREET -- YOU CAN'T GET TO WATER STREET MOST OF THE
TIME BECAUSE YOU GET BLOCKED BEFORE YOU GET TO THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
02:29:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT ANY OF THESE SPECIAL EVENT
PERMITS?
02:29:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:29:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE ON WATER STREET.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE STREET CLOSINGS THAT ARE
SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN?
ITEM 22?
02:29:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO PROHIBIT ALL STREET CLOSINGS.
02:29:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE THERE STREET CLOSINGS FOR THAT ONE?
02:29:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW; I DON'T REMEMBER.
02:29:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM JUST ASKING BECAUSE MISS GREGORY SAYS
THE PERMITS COME TO US, AND IT IS UP TO US.
IF WE DON'T WANT THESE EVENTS, WE SHOULDN'T APPROVE THEM.
02:29:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT I AM SAYING IT SHOULD BE SEPARATED SO
A SEPARATE APPROVAL FOR THEIR EVENT.
02:29:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHANGE THE EVENT MERITS IF WE CHOOSE, MISS
GREGORY?
02:29:53PM >>EMMA GREGORY:
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING -- NOW, LET ME CAVEAT
BY SAYING THIS IS IT NOT MY NORMAL AREA THE CODE.
YOU COULD DENY THEM HERE AT COUNCIL, AND THEN I THINK THEY
MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THEIR APPLICATION TO
AMELIORATE THE CONCERNS AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK.
BUT AS I SAID, THIS ISN'T MY TYPICAL AREA OF THE CODE.
BUT I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF ME.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE CHECK.
02:30:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY TO MAKE YOU DO THIS WHILE YOU ARE
SICK.
02:30:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL ALLOW MR. MIRANDA AND MR. MANISCALCO.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM EITHER MOBILE FOR TPD, AND I WOULD LIKE
TO HEAR FROM BOTH THEM.
MR. SHELBY.
02:30:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT MISS GREGORY'S AREA OF EXPERTISE AND
NEITHER IS MINE, BUT IT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST.
AND THERE HAS BUDGET DISCUSSION WHETHER SPECIAL EVENTS
PERMITS SHOULD APPEAR AT ALL ONLY AGENDA BECAUSE OF FACT IT IS
REALLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND REALLY NO DISCRETION.
BY THE TIME IT GETS TO YOU, IT MAY BE A TIME CONSTRAINT
BECAUSE MAY BE SOMETHING COMING THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
AND SECONDLY, IF THEY CHECK ALL THE BOXES, THERE IS REALLY
NO BASIS IN THE CODE FOR BEING ABLE TO DENY IT, WHICH MEANS
IT CAN BE ACTING PERHAPS ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, AND MAY
HAVE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ON A VARIETY OFSITUATIONS.
I HAD THIS DISCUSSION REQUEST OF LEGAL IN THE PAST, AND THAT
IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
02:31:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:31:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
LET'S LOOK AT THE SELMON.
IT WAS WONDERFUL WHEN IT FIRST OPENED FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS.
BUT GUESS WHAT?
IT IS NOT WONDERFUL NO MORE, BUT YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF
IT.
JUST LIKE STREETS.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE AND IT BACKS UP ITSELF.
WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, ANTIQUATED BEFORE ITS TIME.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT BIG CITIES LIKE US AROUND US THAT ARE
MUCH BIGGER THAN US, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME
PROBLEMS.
YOU KNOW WHY?
THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF TRANSPORTATION.
THE AIRPORT DOESN'T BACK UP, TO SOME DEGREE.
YOU PARK YOUR CAR.
YOU GET ON -- AND YOU ZOOM RIGHT AROUND -- RIGHT INTO THE
AIRPORT.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT COSTS A LOT OF DINERO, A LOT
MONEY AND THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED.
WE NEED LIGHT RAIL.
BUSES IF THE BUS GOES UP STUCK IN TRAFFIC JUST LIKE
EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT IS OUR PROBLEM.
A GOOD PROBLEM AND A BAD PROBLEM.
SO WE HAVE TO SOLVE IT BY CHANGING THE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
YOU NEEDS MORE STREETCARS AND LIGHT RAIL, BECAUSE YOU ARE
NOT GOING OTHER WAY.
BUSES ARE GREAT IN THE '70s, '80s, AND THE '90s.
BUT CONGESTION HAS TO GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THE VEHICLE
DOESN'T MOVE IN TRAFFIC AND NOT THEIR FAULT.
ABUNDANCE OF PEOPLE MOVING DOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHERE
THEY LIVE AT.
PERIOD.
THANK YOU.
02:33:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. CAMPBELL.
02:33:04PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, BRANDON
CAMPBELL, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
THINGS TO TOUCH ON THAN ARE RELATED TO THIS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED A DATE IN DECEMBER.
I DON'T KNOW.
THIS IS THE DATE THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
WE DIDN'T HAVE AN EVENT ON SUNDAY THE 14th, I BELIEVE.
WHERE WE HAD AN EVENT THAT CAUSED ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC BEYOND
WHAT TYPICAL 5K RUN WOULD DO.
AND IN OUR AFTER-ACTION REVIEW, I MET WITH CHIEF BERCAW,
AND, YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED FROM THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE, AND
WE WILL NOT SET UP TRAFFIC CONTROL UNTIL THAT SAME MANNER IN
THE FUTURE.
SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THINGS ARE CHANGING THAT WE TRY
SOMETHING NEW, AND SOMETIMES IT WORKS WETTER THAN IT DID ON
THAT DAY.
WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO EVOLVE AND ADDRESS EMERGING
CHALLENGES AS THEY COME UP WITH SPECIAL EVENTS.
THAT IS ONE THING.
TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA'S POINT.
OF COURSE, WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL ACTIONS
THAT ARE HIGH-LEVEL LARGE INVESTMENT TYPE OF OPTIONS.
REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE ACCELERATOR IS LOOKING AT ITS
DOWNTOWN TO AIRPORT CONNECTION.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU ALL SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES
OF THE POTENTIAL TO EXTEND THE STREETCAR INTO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
ARM THERE ARE SOME LARGE SCALE CITY-FOCUSED EFFORTS THAT --
THAT THEY WILL TAKE A WHILE TO COME TO FRUITION, BUT THEY
ARE BEING EXPLORED.
IN THE INTERIM -- IN THE NEAR TERM, WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT
PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY CITY LED, BUT THE
EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY, OF COURSE, WILL BE RECONNECTING
WHITING STREET OVER TO MERIDIAN.
RECONFIGURING THE RAMPS.
ONE OF THE BE ISSUES THAT DOES COME INTO PLAY WITH SPECIAL
EVENTS, PARTICULARLY WITH WATER STREET AND AT THE ARENA, IS
THAT RAMP, I BELIEVE IT IS 6-A, A SPUR DOWN TO THE MORGAN
STREET INTERSECTION BECOMES PROBLEMATIC WITH HIGH PEDESTRIAN
VOLUMES.
ONE SEGMENT THAT DOES ROUTINELY GET CLOSED.
THAT IS GOING TO BE RECONFIGURED.
THE RAMP ITSELF WILL BE REMOVED, AND A NEW RAMP WILL BE BUILT
IN ITS PLACE UP TO WHITING.
THAT SHOULD HELP TAKE SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OUT
OF THE HOSPITAL ZONE AND INTO THE -- MORE OF THE MID-PART OF
DOWNTOWN SO IT CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA.
OF COURSE, THEA IS WIDENING THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY FROM
DOWNTOWN TO THE SOUTH.
THAT MAY HAVE SOME MITIGATING INFLUENCE ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
OF COURSE, THAT IS NOT ITS PRIMARY INTENT, BUT WE DO EXPECT
WHEN THE EXPRESSWAY IS FLOWING A LITTLE MORE FREELY FOR THAT
TO BE A MORE ATTRACTIVE OPTION TO PEOPLE THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE
GET CAUGHT IN SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN SPECIAL
EVENT TIME FRAMES.
AND THEN LAST, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, THAT I THINK THAT
WE PREVIOUSLY HAD MENTIONED IN THIS COUNCIL THAT WE WERE
LOOKING AT A DOWNTOWN SPECIAL EVENTS TRAFFIC STUDY.
THAT HAS BEEN -- I THINK THAT IS A COMMITMENT WE MADE MAYBE
18 MONTHS AGO OR NEIGHBOR THAT TIME FRAME.
WE ASKED THE TPO TO ADD THAT TO THEIR UWPB, UNIFIED WORK
PLANNING PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A HIGHER-LEVEL
PERSPECTIVE.
WE EXPECT THAT TO BE -- IF IT IS FUNDED, TO BE IN FISCAL
'27.
WE PLACED THAT ON THE TOP OF THE LIST OF PRIORITIES FOR THEM
TO CONSIDER.
OF COURSE, THEY ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THOSE
FINAL DETERMINATIONS.
BUT SHOULD THEY CHOOSE NOT TO FUND THAT, WE WILL GO BACK TO
THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO
HIGH-LEVEL STUDY OF TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN RELATED TO SPECIAL
EVENTS.
OH, ONE LAST THING I DID NOT MENTION.
PROBABLY TO A LESSER EXTENT WILL IMPACT BUT WILL IMPACT THE
EVEN SPACE.
WALTON TO FINLEY TO MERIDIAN.
THOSE WILL BE RIGHT-IN, RIGHT-OUT ACCESS POINTS FROM
MERIDIAN TO WATER STREET.
ALL OF THIS WILL CONTINUE TO DRAW SOME OF THAT DEMAND TO THE
NORTH, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY THEN ALLEVIATE CONCERNS THAT YOU
SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT
CHOICE BUT LESS CONFLICT IN THE SOUTHERNLY PORTION OF THE
ACTIVITY ZONE.
02:37:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION?
02:37:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE HEAR FROM TPD FIRST?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:37:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN ASK TPD BUT I ASKED IT TO VIK.
HE SAID THE LIGHTS ARE TIMED CORRECTLY.
IF WE LET THE LIGHTS GO AND DON'T BLOCK THE STREETS, THINGS
WILL RUN MORE SMOOTHLY.
I DON'T WANT TO STOP EVENTS.
I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT EVENTS ARE.
BUT AN EVENT THAT CLOSES DOWN THE STREET ONE DAY, YES.
BUT ON A REGULAR NIGHT, WHEN THERE ARE EVENTS, CUMBERLAND
GETS BLOCKED, 100 METERS AWAY TO GO FROM THE ENTRANCE.
CAN WE JUST, IN THE MEANTIME, BEFORE THESE STUDIES ARE DONE
LET THE LIGHTS GO AND LET PEOPLE DRIVE?
EVEN WHEN WE LEAVE HERE SOME NIGHTS WE CAN'T IT -- I CAN'T
DEPARTMENT TO BAYSHORE BECAUSE IT IS ALL BLOCKED INCOME THAT
DIRECTION.
LEAVE THE LIGHTS THE WAY THEY ARE.
LEAVE THE ROADS THE WAY THEY ARE UNTIL A PARADE WHERE YOU
HAVE TO SHUT THINGS DOWN.
02:38:47PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
SOME OF CONCERNS YOU EXPRESSED WERE
ADDRESSED BY TPD.
IF WE SEE ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND THE
RESPONSE OF MOTORISTS AND PEDESTRIANS TO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL
PLAN THAT IS IN PLACE, THEY WILL STEP IN AND TRY TO TAKE
CONTROL AND MANAGE FROM THE FIELD.
THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE -- I WOULD
SAY THE MOST VISIBILITY RESPONSE TO -- TO YOUR SUGGESTION
IS IN PARTICULAR WITH THE OUTBOUND TRAFFIC FROM ARENA EVENT.
WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A REALLY VERY STRONG COORDINATION FOR,
SAY, NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON FLORIDA OR THE REST OF THE GRID.
AS AN EVENT REPRESENTS OUT, THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF
PEDESTRIAN FLOW MOST OF WHICH BASICALLY A MOMENTARILY
SHUTDOWN OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND ONCE PEOPLE SORT OF
DISSIPATE AND GET INTO THEIR CARS, YOU WILL SEE VERY GOOD
COORDINATION FROM SIGNAL SYSTEM.
THAT SAID, IF THE PEDESTRIAN VOLUME IS -- IS EITHER TOO
INTENSE OR NOT FOLLOWING THE SIGNALS AS TIMED, THEN THE
OPERATION OF THOSE SIGNALS AS THEY PROVIDE THAT MESSAGE AND
PROVIDE THE COORDINATION TO DRIVERS, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT
FUZZY BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET PAST THE FLOW
OF PEDESTRIANS.
THERE IS A DEFINITE TIME FRAME WHERE THE SIGNAL SYSTEM
WORK REALLY WELL.
THERE IS SORT OF FUZZY OR GRAY AREA WHERE THE INTERACTION
AND THE BEHAVIOR OF PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS MAY NEED SOME
ADDITIONAL INTERACTION BY TPD.
I WILL SAY HAVE THEM SPEAK TO HOW THEY SEE THAT THRESHOLD
PLAYING OUT IN THE FIELD AS THEY ARE WATCHING THINGS UNFOLD.
02:40:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, IF YOU ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA
TO GET TO THE EVENT, PEOPLE HAVE TO GO TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
TO GO TO AN EVENT, AN HOUR ON BAYSHORE TO GET CLOSE TO WHATEVER
IT IS.
WHEN YOU LEAVE, YOU CAN'T BACK UP ON BAYSHORE.
YOU HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THEE WAY PAST GANDY AND TAKE 275 TO
GO OVER TO DALE MABRY AND GO DOWN.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO.
ALL THAT IS DOING IS CREATING MORE CONGESTION FOR OTHER
PEOPLE AND LET PEOPLE OUT THROUGH THE NORMAL ROUTES.
02:41:16PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
I COULD LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY AT THE
TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN.
WHEN EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO GET OUT, SOMETIMES OUR BEST
PLANS OF TRAFFIC PRODUCT SETUP AND SIGNAL TIMING, GETS
OVERRIDDEN BY PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME PLACE AT THE
SAME TIME.
02:41:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS WHY I WALK EVERYWHERE.
I PARK -- I AM SERIOUS.
I PARK AT ARMATURE WORKS AND GET TO DAVIS ISLANDS.
I DID THE OTHER DAY.
TOOK ME A LITTLE OVER THE HOUR WITHOUT HAVING TO CROSS THE
STREET.
IT WAS INTERESTING, AND I GO THE A CUP OF COFFEE.
YEAH, IT IS FRUSTRATING DO THAT UP THERE.
I NEVER PARK AT WATER STREET OR IN THAT AREA.
I WALK FROM HERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
LOOK IF WE LOOK AT EXTENDING STREETCAR BEYOND PALM TO
COLUMBUS, THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO
THESE EVENTS, BUT WITH TOWARDS WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS
SAYING, SO MANY NARROW PATHWAYS DOWN THERE.
YES, IT IS WALKABLE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CARS, IT IS VERY
TRICKY.
PEOPLE -- HOW FAR DO YOU GET HARBOR ISLAND AND GET HOME.
QUICKER TO DRIVE TO ORLANDO ONLY I-4 THAN TO GET.
02:42:39PM >> JASON DILLAHA FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WILL LET HIM TALK ABOUT THE ARENA SPECIFICS.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON SPECIAL EVENT PLANNING.
I HEARD IT MOMENTS OF TIME THAT WE ARBITRARILY DO THINGS.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT MY DIVISION THAT SPECIALIZES IN
SPECIAL EVENTS HAVE NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH BRANDON'S
TEAM.
THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS.
THEY ARE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
WE ARE ON THE GROUND AND KNOW WHAT PLAN WORKS AND DOESN'T
WORK AND RrLAY THE INFORMATION TO THEM TO MAKE BETTER
PLANS IN THE FUTURE.
NO ARBITRARILY DOING ANYTHING WHEN WE ARE PLANNING SPECIAL
EVENTS.
EVERYTHING IS DONE FOR A REASON.
EVERYTHING IS DONE WITH A PURPOSE.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO CREATE A WELCOMING
ENVIRONMENT THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AS ANY WORSE
THAN IT HAS TO.
SO I WILL LET CAPTAIN HILL SPEAK to the ARENA PORTION
HIMSELF SINCE HE IS OVER THE ARENA AND THERE EVERY GAME.
AND WE WILL COME BACK FOR THE OTHER PART, 54.
02:43:53PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN HILL, TAMPA PD CAPTAIN.
I HAVE BEEN TO THE DEPARTMENT FOR 19 YEARS.
the PAST 14 YEARS, I HAD EXPERIENCE OF WORKING TRAFFIC OR THE
SUPERVISOR OR THE INCIDENT COMMANDER AT AMALIE ARENA -- OR
SORRY, BENCHMARK.
I SEE THE TRAJECTORY OF TRAFFIC GETTING WORKS.
WORKING CLOSELY WITH BRANDON AND HIS TEAM TO MAKE SURE WE
ARE NOT DOING THINGS THE WHOLE WAY BUT WORK FLUENTLY.
WHEN IT COMES TO HOLDING CARS.
WE DON'T HOLD PEDS BECAUSE WE WANT TO HOLD PEDESTRIANS.
ACTUAL VOLUME.
WE HAVE TO HOLD THE CARS FOR THEIR SAFETY.
SO, WE TEMPORARILY HOLD TRAFFIC FOR THAT REASON.
TRAFFIC TRAVELING EASTBOUND AT CHANNELSIDE IS BACKED UP AND
CAN'T CONTINUE, WE CONTINUE TO HOLD THEM SO THEY DON'T BLOCK
TO ALLOW OUR PEDS CROSS THE STREET SAFELY.
WHEN IT COMES TO EGRESS AND OUTBOUND PATTERNS, FROM
TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD AND BEING AT DIFFERENT STADIUMS.
I WOULD SAY WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST EGRESSES.
WE AVERAGE 45 MINUTES GETTING EVERYBODY OUT.
I CAN'T THINK OF ONE TIME WE HAVE BEEN THERE AN HOUR AFTER
AN EVENT TO DIRECT TRAFFIC OUT.
COUPLE OF THINGS TO HELP MITIGATE TRAFFIC IN HARBOUR ISLAND,
BUT THE RIGHT TURN TO FRANKLIN FROM CHANNELSIDE IS A RIGHT
TURN ONLY.
PEOPLE IN HARBOUR ISLAND KNOW THAT.
CUMBERLAND GARAGE.
YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT TURN TO GET TO SELMON.
RELOCATED OUR UBER, RIDE SHARE TO JEFFERSON, THAT AREA IS
CONGESTED.
GET THEM ON MERIDIAN TO GET TO THE INTERSTATE.
DIFFERENT CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT IN ORDER TO ALLOW
TRAFFIC TO MOVE MORE SWIFTLY.
TIMES IT GOES AGAINST THE M.O.T. TO BETTER THE EXPERIENCE
FOR THE EVENTS.
02:46:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SEE -- I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU,
BUT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING ARBITRARY.
BRANDON SAID THAT TPD MAKES THE DECISION.
TPD SAVES BRANDON MAKES THE DECISION.
PUTTING UBER TO GET BACK TO SOUTH TAMPA SEEMS LIKE AN
ARB DECISION.
I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE TO TEMPORARY BLOCK ROADS.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ARENA EVENTS.
HEADED WEST ON CUMBERLAND THEY SEND YOU BACK TO THE ARENA
AFTER IT IS OVER.
THINGS CAN BE OPENED AGAIN.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE EVENTS GOING ONLY
IN DOWNTOWN.
EVENTS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND TRAFFIC IS DONE ALL
THE TIME.
MY REQUEST TO YOU -- AND I TALKED TO CHIEF BERCAW ABOUT THIS
THE OTHER DAY.
MY REQUEST THAT YOU ALL CHANGE THIS AND OPEN IT.
AND I BROUGHT IT UP FOUR TIMES NOW.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DOWNTOWN AND HARBOUR ISLAND
WOULD BE HERE IF I TOLD THEM TOO.
I AM PLEADING WITH YOU GUYS, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THE WAY
IT IS.
WHATEVER I NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU WORK WITH IT, LET ME KNOW.
PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THE RESTAURANTS ONLY WATER STREET.
PEOPLE IN HARBOUR ISLAND CAN'T GET TO HARBOUR ISLAND,
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE SYSTEM.
WE HAVE OVERBUILT DOWNTOWN AND DON'T FRONT TO PREVENT MY
MORE DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN.
THAT IS THE SIGNAL THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE
TOO MANY PEOPLE.
SOUTH TAMPA GETS BLOCKED BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE EVENTS,
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO AN EVENT, AND THEY HAVE TO DRIVE TO
COME BACK TO TAMPA.
DRIVE TO WEST TAMPA TO GET TO SOUTH TAMPA.
THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
WHATEVER I NEED TO DO TO HELP YOU GUYS, I WOULD LIKE TO DO
IT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE
ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS IS PUTTING -- THIS IS AN ECONOMIC VALUE,
WASTING THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF PEOPLE'S TIME.
IT ANGERS PEOPLE.
AND IT IS HURTING BUSINESS.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THANK YOU.
02:48:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:48:11PM >> IF I CAN SPEAK CLOSURES OF DOWNTOWN.
ONLY TIME WE HAVE ANY HARD CLOSURES AT THE END OF THE NIGHT.
THAT ONE OF THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE IS CHANNELSIDE.
WE HAVE DOZEN OF PEOPLE.
AND COMPLETELY UNSAFE TO LET TRAFFIC TO CONTINUE WITH THE
LIGHT AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING SIGNS TO LET THE PEOPLE TO
CROSS THE STREET.
OTHER THAN THAT, OUR ROADS ARE FREE.
IS THERE REDIRECTION, ABSOLUTELY.
BUT HARD COMPLETE CLOSURES ARE NOT DONE UNTIL THE END OF THE
NIGHT.
02:48:39PM >> JASON DILLAHA, AGAIN, MAJOR.
EVERY SINGLE EVENT WE LOOK AT, WE KNOW WHAT EVENTS WILL
HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ONE OF THE SECURITY PLANNERS FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
EVENTS THAT COME THROUGH TAMPA WE GENERALLY -- WE HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRIVATE PARTNERS TOO.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WE DO KNOW SOME OF THE PRIVATE EVENTS
THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE.
ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE ARE DOING PLANS
WITH BRANDON'S GROUP.
ARE THERE CHANGES SOMETIMES THAT ARE MADE ON THE FLY BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT?
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS TO PRESERVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
TO HELP PEOPLE AND PEDESTRIANS.
BUT THAT'S NOT DONE LIGHTLY, AND WE JUST DON'T ARBITRARILY
DO IT.
THERE IS A REASON BEHIND IT.
WE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR PLANS.
WE UNDERSTAND -- WE UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE COMMUNITY.
ALL WE WANT TO DO IS TRY TO LESSEN THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN.
02:49:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EASY SIMPLE THING TO MOVE THE UBER.
IT WAS SOMEPLACE ELSE.
PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA HAVE TO GO WEST, NOT NORTH.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU REOPEN CUMBERLAND.
LET PEOPLE GET TO SELMON AND THE BAYSHORE.
THROUGH THE CRA, BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO PUT THE UBER
THERE.
WE HAVE TO FINANCE THIS SOMEHOW.
02:50:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
02:50:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AGAIN.
YOU HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WORK THAT CORNER.
TRAFFIC ON THE CORNER OF FLORIDA AVENUE -- YOU GOT TO STOP
TRAFFIC FROM COMING THIS WAY.
IF NOT YOU REALLY BACK UP EVERYTHING.
I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE OTHER STADIUM IS, AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN THAT AREA CANNOT LEAVE HOME BECAUSE YOU HAVE 60,000
PEOPLE THERE.
YOU GOT 40,000 CARS.
AND I GUARANTEE YOU MORE ACCIDENTS GOING ON AT THE GAME DAY
ON MacDILL BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND MLK THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN
THE CITY.
I WAS ONE OF THEM.
BUT THE CARS ARE LINED UP FOR TEN BLOCKS WITHOUT BEING ABLE
TO COMMUNICATE TRAVEL EAST AND WEST, AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WHERE ANYBODY ELSE LIVES.
I HAVE COMPASSION FOR IT.
HOW DO YOU FIX IT?
DOWTOWN NEVER HAD A CONVENTION CENTER OR HOTEL DOWNTOWN OR A
HOCKEY ARENA.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
CHANNELSIDE WAS NOTHING BUT AN EMPTY DRY DOCK FULL OF RATS
AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
OF COURSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A BACK-UP.
THAT HASN'T FINISHED.
WHAT ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE OF CHANNELSIDE WHERE IT IS VACANT
LAND?
AND YOU GOT THE THREE SIDES.
ALL THAT HAS GOT TO BE DEVELOPED SOONER OR LATER.
PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO GET EASIER.
IT WILL GET TOUGHER TO MANAGE.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT OR MY FAULT.
IT HAS GOT TO COME BETTER, COME QUICKER THAN LATER.
BALLS IF NOT, NO ONE WILL GAIN ANYTHING.
NOT ONLY THE BUSINESSES.
PEOPLE WILL RESENT LIVING THERE, AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK
WILL HAPPEN.
02:52:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 54.
COUNCILWOMAN, IF YOU PUT YOUR LIGHT ON SO I KNOW.
02:52:21PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST WANT TO SAY -- THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS CONVERSATION UP.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD -- A HEALTHY CONVERSATION.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING THE OTHER NIGHT -- I THINK IT WAS --
WHENEVER THE HISTORY CENTER WAS HAVING THEIR -- HISTORY CENTER,
THERE WAS A CHRISTMAS MARKET AND SOMETHING HAPPENING AT
THE AMALIE.
REMEMBER, I WAS GETTING DROPPED OFF.
AND I ENDED UP WALKING IN MY GOWN TO THE HISTORY CENTER
BECAUSE IT WAS TOO MUCH.
BUT I THINK IT IS HEALTHY CONVERSATION.
AND ALSO GOES BACK TO TRANSMIT AND EVEN BIGGER
CONVERSATION THAT I REALLY THINK AS PART OF THE FOUNDATION
THAT WE REALLY NEED TO START ADDRESSING.
IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE
RIGHT TRANSPORTATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A GRANT THAT WE CAN GO FOR TO
HELP US WITH THIS STREETCAR OR -- OR SOMETHING, BUT I REALLY
THINK WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OUR TRANSPORTATION AND HOW
WE ARE MOVING PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT -- THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE A BROADER
CONVERSATION OF THE IMPORTANT OF TRANSPORTATION AND
ELIMINATING THE CARS AND EVERYTHING.
SO THANKS FOR JUST BRINGING THIS UP.
GOOD CONVERSATION, A HEALTHY CONVERSATION TO HAVE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TO KIND OF TALK WITH UPS
THROUGH IT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT HAD THERE.
02:53:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T SECOND OR THIRD THAT ENOUGH.
I WOULD DISAGREE.
I THINK THAT BUSES HAVE A ROLE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN I WILL --
02:53:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST A CLOSING REMARK.
COMPLIMENTS TO MYSELF AND TO COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
SHE BIKES.
I WALK.
WE TRY TO DO OUR PART.
MOST RECENTLY, I WALKED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR
THE NAACP GALA, AND I HAD A WEDDING IN YBOR.
I HOPPED ON THE STREETCAR AND CAME BACK.
IF WE EXPAND THE SYSTEM AND EXPAND THE NETWORK, WORKS FOR
ME TO A CERTAIN CAPACITY.
IF WE INVEST ON THIS FURTHER -- I CAN TELL YOU STORIES.
IN NEW YORK CITY, I AND TOOK TRAIN.
WASHINGTON D.C., TOOK THE TRAIN.
I NEVER HAD TO TOUCH A CAR RENTAL FACILITY.
HERE, IT IS TRICKY.
GROWING UP, I WOULD HEAR TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE THIS.
THERE IS NOTHING HERE.
NOW IT IS SO CONGESTED AND SO CROWDED.
SO LIKE ONE OR THE OTHER.
02:54:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHICKEN OR THE EGG.
02:54:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:54:52PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
BRANDON CAMPBELL, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
TO COUNCILMAN YOUNG'S COMMENTS, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE BELIEVED MOST OF YOU OF THE REGIONAL.
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU IT ABOUT WHAT THAT PROGRAM
IS AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
IF WE HAVE NOT BRIEFED OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE ARE
HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
YOU MENTIONED THE GRANT FOR THE STREETCAR EXTENSION.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT IF AND WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE
ARE READY TO CONSTRUCT, THEIR WILL BE ABOUT A 50% GRANT FROM
THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION.
UNTIL NOW -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS WITH THE
STATE MATCH, BUT A POINT OF WHICH THE STATEMENT HAD PLEDGED
A STATE MATCH FOR HALF OF REMAINING HALF.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A QUARTER OF THE OVERALL COST.
WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF STEPS BETWEEN HERE AND THERE TO GET
THINGS LINED UP.
BUT THAT IS THE FINANCING THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ANTICIPATED
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS.
02:55:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT STILL MESSY.
02:55:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YOU SAID REGIONAL --
02:56:02PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL:
REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE ACCELERATOR.
YES.
02:56:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:56:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU -- TO SET UP -- THANK YOU FOR 54.
54, TO SET IT UP, THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER PROBLEM, BUT WE
WERE DISCUSSING ONE NIGHT.
I WAS TRYING TO GET HERE.
AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT SHUT DOWN -- I HEAR FOR A
GROUP OF COACHES AND PUSHING EVERYBODY TO THE SIDE.
CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
CARS WERE ALMOST SMASHING INTO EACH OTHER.
I WAS STUCK HERE HALF A BLOCK.
ONLY HAPPENED ONCE, BUT AS WE WERE DISCUSSING MIGHT BE GOOD
TO HAVE YOU ALL COME.
READ THE REPORT THAT YOU SUBMITTED WITH ONLY THE REASON WHY.
AND I, AT LEAST, DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY POLICE ESCORTS FOR
FUNERALS, BUT IF THE PRESIDENT OR SOME HEAD OF STATE COMES
TO TOWN, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND A POLICE ESCORT.
HIGH SCHOOL GROUP OF COACHES.
IS THERE -- THE QUESTION IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO LIMIT WHAT
THE POLICE ELSE COURTS ARE BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES THIS
TRAFFIC JAM IN DOWNTOWN SO MUCH WORSE.
02:57:10PM >> HOPEFULLY -- MAJOR JASON DILLAHA.
HOPEFULLY, I CAN PUT YOUR MIND OF HOW TPD DOES IT.
A VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR ESCORTS ARE PREPLANNED THINGS FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS, FUNERALS, AND DIGNITARIES.
THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER AND BRANDON'S
PEOPLE TO TRY TO USE LIGHT CYCLES TO HELP US GET TO
PLACES SO WE ARE NOT HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
ALSO, IF IT IS A LARGER -- LARGER LENGTH OF TIME AND STUFF,
WE DON'T JUST SHUT DOWN.
LEAVING POINT A.
SHUT DOWN EVERY ROAD TO POINT B.
WE DON'T DO THAT.
WE TRY TO TIME THE CLOSURE SO IT IS LEAST IMPACTFUL TO THE
COMMUNITY.
IF YOU GO UP TO THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE ESCORTS THAT WE
DO, EVEN THOSE ARE TIMED.
WE WILL RUN THOSE ROUTES AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE ESCORT
WILL COME THROUGH WHAT IT TAKES TO GET A CAR HERE MULTIPLE
TIMES SO WE FIGURE OUT WHEN WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN CERTAIN
ROADS BEFORE WE GET TO THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO WE TRY TO TIME IT USING BRANDON'S PEOPLE, AND
INTELLIGENCE PRIOR TO REALTIME ONLY THE GROUND INTELLIGENCE
TO LESSEN THE IMPACTS.
SO INTERSECTIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF ARE NOT JUST SHUT DOWN
FOR A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME.
02:58:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
THANKS A LOT FOR COMING.
02:58:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT TOO.
SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I ACTUALLY HAD NUMEROUS
COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS WHERE IT IS FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL
THAT IS LEADING WHAT WERE, AT THE TIME, BUSES FOR EITHER LIKE
A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH DIDN'T
SEEM TO ACTUALLY BE AN EMERGENCY.
YOU ALL FOLLOW A CERTAIN PROTOCOL, BUT DOES FLORIDA HIGHWAY
PATROL FOLLOW A DIFFERENT PROTOCOL?
02:59:11PM >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THEIR PROTOCOL.
DON'T WORK FOR THEM.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE AGENCIES THAT DO ESCORTS THROUGHOUT THE
CITY, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK HOW WE DO THEM.
AND A COUPLE -- SOME EXPERTS WE DO A LEAD AND FLOW
OF TRAFFIC AND STOPPING AT LIGHTS BUT HELPING THEM GET
THROUGH AND THE WHOLE PACKAGE CAN GET THROUGH THE LIGHT IF
IT TURNS RED.
AND THEN THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH
LIGHTS AND TIME IT WITH BRANDON'S PEOPLE, WHICH IS MAINLY
WHAT WE DO SO WE DON'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON COMMUNITY.
02:59:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I FIGURED, BUT THIS IS
A GOOD TIME TO ASK.
OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:59:45PM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
02:59:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APPRECIATE YOU.
ALL SET.
NEXT, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
DO YOU WANT TO SET UP YOUR NEXT ONE?
02:59:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS MISS McKENZIE GOING TO BE -- IS SHE VIRTUAL?
03:00:01PM >> I AM.
03:00:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
HOW ARE YOU, MISS McKENZIE.
CAN I SET --
03:00:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE, I NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE.
VIERA IS NOT HERE.
03:00:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ME, UNLESS THAT -- THAT
IS VERY SLOWLY.
I AM GLAD TO DO IT, YES, MA'AM.
03:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
03:00:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR, AND I'M
WHATEVER ACTING CHAIR, WHATEVER IT IS.
THERE YOU GO.
HEY, MISS McKENZIE.
HOW ARE YOU?
GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.
YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S DO THIS, IF I MAY.
LET US HAVE YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THEN I HAVE
QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS ON THAT.
GO AHEAD IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
03:00:45PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, BRENDA MCKENZIE,
DIRECTOR OF WORKFORCE AND HERE TO SHARE AN UPDATE ON
OUR INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY, WHICH IS THE MIKE PHILLIPS ALL
ABILITIES PROGRAM.
IT CAME UNDER WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIP STARTING IN SEPTEMBER 2025.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE REALLY WORKED HARD TO INCREASE THE
UTILIZATION AND THE IMPACT OF THE PROGRAM OVERALL WE REACHED
OUT TO THE AGENCIES.
WE MET WITH THEM AND HEARD THEIR CONCERNS AND HAD
OPPORTUNITIES.
WE HAVE A SOLID PROGRAM, BUT WE WANTED TO SEE HOW WE COULD
REALLY INCREASE THE IMPACT OF THE PROGRAM LOOKING FORWARD.
BASED ON THOSE SESSIONS, A COUPLE OF CONTENT THAT CAME
FORWARD TO HOW TO BETTER IMPROVE THE PROGRAM.
REIMBURSABLE ITEMS.
THE PROGRAM WAS SET UP TO ONLY REIMBURSE THE ACTUAL SALARY
OF THE EMPLOYEE, BUT WHILE THAT IS HAPPENING, AGENCY IS
DOING SO MUCH COUNSELING AND CAREER COACHING AND READINESS
FOR THEIR ULTIMATE LONG-TERM CAREER, AND WE WANTED TO BE
REIMBURSED WHAT THEY POUR INTO THE INDIVIDUALS.
WE UPDATED THE AGREEMENT SO THAT UP TO 10% OF THE CONTRACT
AMOUNT CAN GO TOWARD THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS RELATED TO
COACHING THE INDIVIDUAL TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE READY FOR
THAT NEXT STEP.
WE RECEIVED THE AMOUNT OF THE NEW CONTRACTS RECENTLY IN THE
PAST TEN DAYS.
THOSE AGREEMENTS HAVE GONE OUT TO THE AGENCIES.
WE RECEIVED THREE OF THEM.
I THINK TWO OF THEM -- WE RECEIVED FOUR OF THEM THIS
AFTERNOON WITH ONE MORE ANTICIPATED TO COME IN LATER TODAY
AND WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN SHORT ORDER FOR APPROVAL
OF THOSE AGREEMENTS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
OTHER ITEMS THAT CAME UP DUE TO THE CONVERSATION IS HOW THE
PROGRAM IS MARKETED OVERALL.
WE HAVE DONE ENHANCEMENT TO THE PROGRAM MANAGING TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE EXTERNALLY ARE AWARE OF THIS AND THE WONDERFUL
PARTNERS, AND I BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AWARE OF THE
BENEFITS OF WORKING WITH THE STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM AND
WHAT THEY WILL GET OUT THE PROGRAM.
CONSEQUENTLY, WE SET UP A NEW MARKETING EFFORT FOR THE
PROGRAM AND KICKING THAT OFF ON THE 27th OF THIS MONTH, WITH
A SHOWCASE WHERE THE AGENCIES WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN.
TALK OF THEIR STUDENTS AND THE TRAINING THEY RECEIVED AND
BETTER MATCH THEM.
THAT CONCLUDES THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROGRAM SO FAR.
A PLEASURE TO WORK ON IT.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
03:03:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I AM LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR, ON THE 27TH, WHAT TIME?
03:03:32PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
1:00.
1:00 TO 3:00.
03:03:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
I CAN MAKE IT.
COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I MAY.
A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
WE PASSED THIS IN 2022.
I SPOKEN BEFORE MY FRUSTRATION ON THIS.
BUT WE ARE IN VERY GOOD HANDS WITH YOU, MISS McKENZIE.
YOU HAVE A PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THIS ISSUE LIKE A LOT OF
FOLKS WHO WORKED ON THIS BEING A GOOD PERSON.
AND I CITE ERIC, WHO IS ONE OF OUR INTERNS, WHO STARTED WITH
THE CITY AND NOW A CONTRACTOR WHO, THANKS TO THE WORK OF
ERIC, WE ARE DEVELOPING A PROGRAM WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES WHERE PEOPLE WITH AUTISM WHO ARE PULLED OVER BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAN HAVE A SLIP THEY CAN GIVE THE OFFICER SO AS
TO AVOID ANY MISUNDERSTANDINGS, LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON SYSTEMS
OF AUTISM, BEING ON THE SPECTRUM, AND SO FORTH.
IMAGINE WE GIVE THIS YOUNG MAN AN OPPORTUNITY, AND HE COMES
IN AND AFFECTS POLICY CHANGE.
THE IDEA HERE IS PEOPLE'S GOT POTENTIAL THAT ARE THROUGH
LOCAL INVESTMENTS.
THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
COUPLE OF THINGS.
I KNOW -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE DO HAVE THIS UP ON WEB
SITE, CORRECT?
03:04:54PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THAT'S CORRECT.
03:04:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE A REQUEST THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THIS BE
NAMED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
MIKE PHILLIPS ALL ABILITIES PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE NAME, CORRECT?
03:05:13PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
CORRECT.
THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE WEB SITE.
03:05:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANTED TO CONFIRM BECAUSE MIKE PHILLIPS, GOD
REST HIS SOUL, A SPECIAL PERSON, AND HIS MOM, KAREN CLAY, IS A
WONDERFUL PERSON.
SHE HAS HER INAUGURAL LUNCHEON BY THE WAY ON FEBRUARY 13, I
THINK IT IS.
I WILL LET ALL COUNCIL KNOW.
IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT, KAREN WOULD GET ME AND EVERYTHING.
AND SHE IS SUCH -- KAREN IS LIKE ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
I LOVE HER A LOT.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT IS MY INTENT -- I AM ON CITY COUNCIL
FOR ANOTHER NINE MONTHS OR SO, WHATEVER IT IS, AND I WANT
THIS THING TO BE PERMANENT.
I KNOW OF NO BETTER WAY TO MAKE IT PERMANENT THAN TO HAVE
KAREN CLAY ON IT.
SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU, IF I MAY.
SO FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE HAVE FUNDING THIS YEAR, CORRECT?
03:06:07PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
YES, WE DO.
03:06:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT, WHAT IS THE MONETARY AMOUNT WE HAVE
FUNDED?
03:06:16PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
EACH AGENCY, 50,2789.
03:06:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW MANY AGENCIES?
03:06:22PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
FIVE AGENCIES ARE CURRENTLY IN THE
PROGRAM.
03:06:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I LIKE THAT.
HOW MANY INTERNS WORKING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA UNDER THIS?
03:06:30PM >>BRENDA MCKENZIE:
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE FULL
AUTHORIZATION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, APPROXIMATELY TWO
INTERNS PER STUDENT -- OR PER AGENCY.
SO TEN IN TOTAL.
03:06:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD.
THAT IS A GOOD NUMBER.
TEN INTERNS.
HOW MANY DEPARTMENT -- HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA, BUT MANY DEPARTMENTS WILL BE WORKING IN THIS.
I WANT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS, AS
MANY AS CAN.
MAYBE SOME CAN'T, BUT AS MANY THAT CAN.
03:07:05PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
THAT IS WHY WE ARE DOING THE SHOWCASE AND
MARKET IT TO CITY DEPARTMENTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY DEPARTMENTS KNOW
CAPABILITIES OF THE STUDENTS.
SOME OF THE PROGRAMS DO CUSTOMER SERVICE.
THEY DO A PLETHORA OF TRAINING FOR THE STUDENTS, AND WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MATCHING THEM APPROPRIATELY SO WE ARE
EXCITED ABOUT THE SHOWCASE.
03:07:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BE AT THE SHOWCASE.
I HAVE THINGS ON MY CALENDAR, BUT I WANT TO MAKE TIME THAT DAY.
WHAT I WANT TO DO COUNCIL -- MADAM CHAIR, WHENEVER IT IS
APPROPRIATE, MISS McKENZIE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
YOU REACHED OUT TO ME.
I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO ME AND TO YOU AND TO ALL OF
US.
AGAIN, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THOSE OF YOU TOUCHED BY
OUR ISSUE -- MY OLDEST BROTHER JUAN, WHO IS MENTALLY
DISABLED.
AND HAVING A LOVED ONE WITH THAT TOUCHES YOU PERSONALLY, BUT
I ALWAYS SAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TOUCHED PERSONALLY TO
HAVE EMPATHY, COMPASSION, DECENCY, AND LOVE.
THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
03:08:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
03:08:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY MOTION, COUNCIL, ON MAY 7, I WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE CONTINUED STATUS OF THIS PROGRAM
EITHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, WHICH IS
NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE FIRST WEEK IN MAY -- I
DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN DO THIS PERMANENTLY.
WHERE WE HEAR EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON THE STATUS OF THIS
PROGRAM.
SO MY -- SO MY MOTION IS MULTIPART.
NUMBER ONE, MAY 7, IN-PERSON REPORT ON INTERNSHIP HOW IT'S
GOING.
03:08:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEPARATE IT.
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, SEPARATE.
03:08:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY 7, IN-PERSON UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF
THE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS, IF YOU ALL COULD, BRING ALL OF THE
FOLKS WHO WERE IN THIS PROGRAM TO BRING AN UPDATE IN PERSON.
MISS McKENZIE, BY MAY 7, DO WE HAVE LIFTOFF?
03:09:18PM >>BRENDA McKENZIE:
ABLE TO GET INPUT FROM YOU.
03:09:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS MY MOTION, MAY 7.
03:09:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
03:09:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BE COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY CONVERSATION?
MOTION PASSES.
03:09:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PURSUANT TO YOUR SUGGESTION, ON THE FIRST WEEK
OF MAY OF EACH YEAR, WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON THE
STATUS OF THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
03:09:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE
IT NOW HAS A PROPER NAME THAT IS THE MICHAEL PHILLIPS ABILITY
PROGRAM.
03:09:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MIKE PHILLIPS.
03:09:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAKE IT ANNUAL, AND WE NEED THE NAME IN THERE.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
NAME IS THE MIKE PHILLIPS ALL ABILITIES INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
IT IS IN ITEM NUMBER 56, If YOU NEED THE FULL NAME.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
03:10:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
MISS McKENZIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GOD BLESS YOU.
03:10:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT AND, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK OUR CLERK
AND STAFF FOR PUTTING ALL THOSE NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER.
THAT WAS A GREAT, GREAT CHOICE.
SO I WANT TO LEVEL SET 58 A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD A LOT OF E-MAILS, WHICH I THINK IS VERY EXCITING
BECAUSE IT MEANS PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION, AND THEY
REALLY VALUE WHAT CITY COUNCIL CAN BRING.
AND THEY VALUE OUR ROLE IS IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE
TO SAY IS THAT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, WE ARE ALL GOING TO
HEAR WHAT EACH OTHER HAS TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A FOUR-HOUR
CONVERSATION.
SO I -- JUST WANT TO GET IT OUT THERE.
THAT WE STILL HAVE MOTIONS TO MAKE IN TERMS OF, LIKE, GOING
FORWARD FOR RESOLUTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO HAVE MISS KOPESKY UP TO
INTRODUCE AND TO TALK ABOUT THE SURPLUS.
THIS WAS MY MOTION, SO UJ WILL SAY THAT I AM VERY
EXCITED ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE PARTICIPATION FROM COUNCIL BUT
ALSO THE PUBLIC.
SO YOUR POWERPOINT IS UP ON SCREEN AS WELL.
03:11:52PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
GREAT.
WONDERFUL.
HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
OKAY, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEK AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO,
THE CFO PRESENTED THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR FIsCAL '25.
AND AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS ROUGHLY $10 MILLION THAT WAS
PRESENTED AS SURPLUS, SPECIFICALLY, A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT
WERE ADDRESSED AS RISK ITEMS THAT WERE TO BE CONSIDERED AS
PART OF THAT BALANCE.
ONE OF THEM WAS THE NEED FOR THE NEW SIDE ARMS, AND THE
SECOND ONE WAS THE FACT THAT THE SCHOOL SPEEDING PROGRAM IS
NOT QUITE MOVING ALONG AT THE PACE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD.
SO THE REVENUE IS NOT COMING IN AT THE TIMING THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
WITH THAT SAID, THE NET AMOUNT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
CONSIDERING IS $5.3 MILLION.
AND SO OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, I KNOW ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN
THINKING ABOUT, TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS OF WHERE WE WANTED
TO PRIORITIZE THOSE FUNDS.
NOW RESPECTFULLY, i KNOW YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON CERTAIN THINGS
FOR TODAY.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH ME GOING THROUGH --
03:13:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING A LOT OF THINGS AND OUR
CHANNELS TO -- WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC --
03:13:22PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS.
03:13:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PROBABLY WON'T COME TO A FULL BAKED DECISION
TODAY.
03:13:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I SAY ONE THING BEFORE SHE GOES
THROUGH THE DETAILS?
03:13:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
03:13:33PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THAT'S FINE.
03:13:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST REAL FAST.
03:13:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:13:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE CFO GAVE US THAT
EACH OF SEVERAL BUCKETS, THERE WERE LIKE $27 MILLION OVERAGE
AND ADMINISTRATION SPENT 24 OF IT AND LEFT US $3 MILLION.
TECHNICALLY, THERE WAS $100 MILLION SUR PLUS.
SO WE HAVE GOT -- I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE
ARE GOING TO SPEND ONLY A LITTLE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SECOND THING IS, THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MAXED OUT THE
CREDIT CARDS.
WE ARE MORE $3 BILLION IN DEBT.
WE DON'T HAVE A SURPLUS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND MONEY ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY, GET THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT TO PAY DOWN DEBT.
NEXT CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR WILL BE SADDLED WITH ENORMOUS
DEBT.
03:14:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
WE WILL GO THROUGH THIS FIRST.
03:14:43PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
IF I CAN GET THIS ON THE SCREEN.
WONDERFUL.
JUST TO GO THROUGH WHAT I CALL OUR MAJOR BUCKETS.
WE KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE COMMUNITY,
AS WELL AS JUST SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK WHEN FEEDBACK WHEN
APPROVALS WENT OUT.
ONE OF THE FIRST LEVELS OF CONSIDERATION WAS THAT THERE WERE
ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING.
I THINK -- I BELIEVE TODAY BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS TEND TO
RELY ON THIS FUNDING.
THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT HAS CONCENSUS FROM THE
GROUP TO PROCEED FEEDBACK FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS.
WE WILL GO THROUGH AND WHERE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS
REQUESTED FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS.
SUMMARY HERE IS JUST INTENDED TO SHOW HAVING TAKEN IN
FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF YOU, THIS IS THE SUMMARY OF WHERE WE
STAND TODAY AND THE BULK BEING IN FEMA PARKS AND REC -- YES?
03:15:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FINISH THE SLIDE.
03:15:54PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
VERY HIGH LEVEL.
AT 5.3, WE ARE ROUGHLY 400 OVER THAT.
03:15:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO SORT OF LEVEL SET, THIS IS
NOT ADDITIONAL SOCIAL ACTION ARTS?
WE CUT THE BUDGET FOR 47 BY A HALF MILLION.
03:16:11PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
FAIR.
WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET HAS BEEN
REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY.
JUST TO MAKE THAT POINT VERY CLEAR.
YOU AGREED TO MOVE THE BUDGET FORWARD AT $1 MILLION.
THAT $1 MILLION CONSISTED OF RECOMMENDATION FROM
ADMINISTRATION, AND THESE ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDING,
RECOMMENDED FROM THE GROUP, CITY COUNCIL.
LET'S SEE WHAT I CAN DO HERE.
CAN YOU -- I KNOW YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FIT THE WHOLE THING.
BUT THIS IS REALLY -- DO YOU HAVE THIS ALSO VISIBLE IN FRONT
OF YOU?
03:16:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND WE CAN SEE AT THE OUR SCREENS.
03:16:51PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I DIDN'T PLAN TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
03:16:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU DON'T NEED TO.
03:16:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THE DETAIL BEHIND THAT INITIAL $485,000.
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING HERE BEFORE I MOVE ON?
03:17:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM HAPPY WITH THE LIST.
03:17:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I CAN.
03:17:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:17:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, BUT THERE ARE
SOME TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE -- THE PORTICO -- AGAIN, I WILL GET
INTO THIS.
BUT THE PENGUIN PROJECT, INTELLECTUAL ABILITY AND ARTS
PROGRAM CUT BY 75% WILL DISPLACE THEM.
NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT.
DO WE DISCUSS THAT NOW, MADAM CHAIR?
03:17:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOING TO LET MISS KOPESKY FINISH, BUT
DEFINITELY --
03:17:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO I WILL HOLD OFF.
03:17:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WILL HAVE ROOM TO HAVE CONVERSATION FOR
SURE.
03:17:42PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
WE WILL GET THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
GIVE ME A MINUTE.
03:17:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN SEE IT ON OUR SCREENS BUT NOT THERE
YET.
03:17:58PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
OKAY, EXCELLENT.
GOING BACK TO THE SUMMARY PAGE.
WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE ADDITIONAL DETAIL BEHIND WHAT -- WHAT
INITIAL FEEDBACK I RECEIVED FROM EVERYONE IN TERMS OF PARKS
AND REC, STORMWATER, MOBILITY, AND THEN A FEW MISCELLANEOUS
ITEMS.
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, TOO, MOBILITY AND STORMWATER MAINTENANCE
WERE BOTH ITEMS THAT I HEARD -- WOULD SAY CONSIDERATON FOR
NEEDING TO AT LEAST BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THEM.
THERE WAS NOT NECESSARILY AS MUCH SPECIFICITY AT THAT
POINT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GO BY AIR TIME, SO TO SPEAK.
I WOULD SAY THAT ONE THING FOR THE GROUP IS, WE KNOW WE HAVE
QUITE A BIT OF PAVING MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN 2026 JUST BASED
ONLY THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED, PLUS SOME OF
THE REALLOCATION THAT WE ALREADY DONE.
ONLY MENTIONING THAT FROM THE ESSENTIALS FOR THE CURRENT
AND FOLLOWING 12 MONTHS, WE PROBABLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF
FUNDING FOR THE PACE WE CAN HANDLE.
AGAIN, STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.
THOUGHTFUL TO THE TOPIC AT THIS POINT.
I WILL LEAVE IT TO YOU IF YOU ARE HEARING FEEDBACK ON THAT
OR NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
I WILL SAY BASED ON WHERE WE FINISHED THE PRIOR YEAR AND
MONEY YOU HAVE FUNDED FROM THE PRIOR YEAR SURPLUS, STILL
AVAILABLE BALANCE FROM THAT FOR -- FOR MAINTENANCE OVER AND
ABOVE THE BUILDING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO ARE HIGH RISK AT THIS POINT.
OKAY.
I AM GOING TO PAUSE.
AND GIVEN THAT THE BIG ITEM AND THE BIG DISCUSSON IS LIKELY
TO START WITH PARKS, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SIMPLY TURN
BACK OVER TO DISCUSSION TO THE GROUP, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT,
THAT IS WHERE THE BULK OF THE INTEREST LIES.
03:19:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
IF WE CAN HAVE THAT BACK UP SO THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO SEE.
I THINK THEY ARE USED TO OUR VOICES AT THIS POINT.
I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO'S LIGHT.
I WILL -- SO WHAT -- WHAT -- BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THIS
CONVERSATION, LET'S TALK.
DO WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY LIKE THREE MINUTES AND THEN --
SO WE CAN DO TWO MINUTES AFTER?
THAT WAY --
03:20:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY I SPEAK ON SOCIAL ACTION AND THE OTHER
PRIORITIES?
I CAN SQUEEZE IT IN.
03:20:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT THESE PRIORITIES AND
COME BACK TO SOCIAL ACTION THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TALK
ABOUT IT IN THREE MINUTES.
MISS KOPESKY, WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
03:20:36PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I AGREE.
I THINK IN TERMS OF THE DEGREE OF INTEREST AND WHERE MOST OF
CONVERSATION AND DEBATE WILL BE IN THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE,
THE RATIONALE OF WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM AND THEIR
INTERIM.
03:20:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MADAM CHAIR, FROM A PROCESS POINT OF VIEW,
MAYBE EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
BUT I AM OKAY JUST APPROVING IT.
I WONDER IF WE CAN SEE IF ANYBODY IS AGAINST IT.
03:21:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PROBLEM IS, WE HAVE MORE REQUESTS THAN MONEY.
AND WE CAN'T STRAIGHT APPROVED IT.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS TOO MUCH.
SO WE KIND OF DO NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
ALSO, YEAH.
I THINK THAT IS PART OF ISSUE.
03:21:21PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
TO THE EXTENT, TOO, I WANTED TO LEAVE THE
FLEXIBILITY.
THINGS THAT HAPPENED SINCE THIS LIST WAS ACCUMULATED.
IF ANYTHING NEW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE, I WANTED
TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT.
03:21:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PUSH IT BACK ONLY THE ADMINISTRATION AND
TELL THEM TO FIND THE EXTRA --
03:21:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I WILL, AND THAT IS AN IDEA.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, GO AHEAD.
YOUR FIRST, THREE MINUTES.
03:21:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SAW THE COUNCILMAN CARLSON MEMO.
IT WAS SENT TO EVERYTHING WITH REGARDS TO -- THAT TOTALS
$2.5 MILLION IN SUBTOTAL OF DISTRICT 4.
03:21:58PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
CORRECT.
03:21:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.
LOOKING AT IT LINE BY LINE.
SO MANY COLLECTIVE SPOTS THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY THAT I SEE
PERSONALLY.
I TAKE MY STEPDAUGHTER TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARKS.
WE HANG OUT THERE.
I DON'T COMPLAIN.
I AM A HAPPY PERSON AND ENJOY WHAT IS THERE, SO MUCH HAS
BEEN INVESTED IN THE REST OF THE CITY AND OTHER PARKS, NEW
PARKS.
YOU CAN LOOK AT McFARLAND PARK THAT NEEDS A LOT AND THEIR
PLAYGROUND.
THE MURAL.
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
EAST TAMPA FACILITY THAT WE JUST DEDICATED, WHICH IS
SPECTACULAR AND SO WELL-DESERVED.
WE ARE INVESTING THERE.
I LIKE THE LIST, AND WE HAVE A VARIETY OF ITEMS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON PUT IN THE
MEMO.
THE YELLOW JACKETS.
I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
MISS ROBIN LOCKETT.
OLD SCHOOL TAMPA PEOPLE GOING BACK YEARS, PUSHING FOR
THE YELLOW JACKETS.
ONE POOL IN DISTRICT 5, $300,000.
SULPHUR SPRINGS BOARDWALK NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.
HENRY AND OLA.
SPEAKING TO THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY FOR YEARS.
AND NOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT IT UP SEVERAL TIMES.
JUST BEEN -- THEY WERE OUT OF A TRAILER.
THEY WERE -- WHATEVER.
BUT I WANT TO SUPPORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
WITH REGARD TO SOCIAL ACTION, I WILL SAVE IT FOR THE NEXT
ROUND OF DISCUSSION, BUT PRIORITIES ARE THERE.
ONE LAST THING.
WE DID GET SEVERAL E-MAILS REGARDING FUNDING ROUTE 1.
THIS WILL TAKE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
03:23:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE COMMENT ON THAT.
03:23:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL WAIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER -- CHAIR
HURTAK.
I WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY AND GO TO
SOCIAL ACTION.
03:23:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN GO AHEAD AND QUICKLY GIVE THE UPDATE ON
THE ROUTE 400 THAT GOES UP TO NEBRASKA.
CAME OUT OF A TRANSIT TAMPA BAY MEETING.
I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT.
I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT.
BUT -- SO APPARENTLY, NO ONE REACHED OUT TO HART.
SO WE REACHED OUT TO HART.
BRANDON AND JORDAN REACHED OUT TO HART, AND THEY SAID AS FAR
AS FREQUENCY AND THE -- HART CURRENTLY WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THE FY '27 BUDGET, BUT
RIGHT NOW THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR BUDGET SET AND DONE.
THEY WOULD PREFER NOT TO PURSUE IT, AND THAT IS COMING RIGHT
STRAIGHT FROM HART.
AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM AND HELP THEM, I
WILL DEFER TO WHAT HART WANTS.
SO I WILL --
03:24:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN CHAMPION.
03:24:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
NEXT MONTH, WE ARE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT 2027.
I WANTED TO LEVEL SET THAT AND GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY.
LUIS.
03:25:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
03:25:15PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SLIDE RIGHT NOW.
03:25:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THREE MINUTES FOR THIS GO AROUND.
03:25:21PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, SO WELL, ONE, NO SECRET THAT ANYTHING
PERTAINING TO YOUTH, YOUTH ACTIVITIES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR
YOUTH, I WANT TO SUPPORT 100%.
I WANT TO -- SO THERE ARE TWO ITEMS ON HERE THAT
SPECIFICALLY ARE FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
AND ONE, YOU WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE SULPHUR SPRINGS
INCLUDED IN HERE.
BECAUSE ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE A CRA.
AND EVEN BEFORE COMING ON TO COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT IT COME UP
IN CONVERSATION A FEW TIMES JUST MAKING SURE WE ARE ACTUALLY
DEDICATED FUNDING TO SULPHUR SPRINGS IN THAT AREA.
AND I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU
KNOW, SOME MONEY TO GO FORWARD THE AREA.
THE SULPHUR SPRINGS ACTION PLAN, THEY ARE FINISHING UP.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE -- I THINK IT IS PHASE THREE OR SHOULD BE
FINISHED WITH PHASE THREE.
SO MY IDEA FOR WAITING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE MONEY TO GO TOWARD
THE PROGRAM, TO GO TOWARD THE PLAN SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A
PLAN THAT SHOWS.
ALREADY MONEY IN PLACE TO START SOMETHING.
AND THERE IS -- THE REPORT IS VERY EXPENSIVE, AND SO, YOU
KNOW, WE CAN MAYBE SPEAK WITH THEM AND DECIDE WHAT COMES
OUT OF THAT WILL BE THE FIRST THING WE WANT TO PUT MONEY
TOWARDS, BUT I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE PUT SOMETHING IN
THERE TO GET THE BALL ROLLING WITH THAT.
I WORKED FOR PHASE ONE OF THAT PROJECT, SO I WOULD REALLY
LOVE TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS REALLY WORKED HARD AND REALLY
PERFORMED A LOT IN THAT PROJECT.
AGAIN, THE TEENS LEADING CHANGE PROGRAM.
I SPOKE WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF HAVING THAT
PROGRAM AND HOW LIFE CHANGING IT IS FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND I ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT INCREASING THE YOUTH PROGRAM FOR
48 SLOTS TO 70 SLOTS.
WE HEARD OF THAT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF SLOTS FOR OUR TEEN
STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE.
WE HAVE THE PARKS, AGAIN, I SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT HAVING
PARKS AND PLACES FOR OUR YOUTH TO GO.
MAKING THESE CHANGES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE NICE PARKS
FOR OUR CHILDREN GO TO CONTINUE TO HAVE ACTIVITIES AND
THINGS TO DO, AS WELL AS THE FAMILIES.
AND, OF COURSE, YELLOW JACKETS, I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND WE ALL HEARD ABOUT IT NUMEROUS
TIMES.
HOPING THAT WE SUPPORT CHANGES FOR THIS DISTRICT.
THANK YOU.
03:27:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:28:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SPEAKING OF PARKS ISSUE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
DISTRICT 7.
WE TALKED OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I LIKE THIS PARK.
I LIKE THIS.
DISTRICT 7 IS A QUARTER OF THE CITY, RIGHT.
AND I ALWAYS SAY -- THIS IS POLITICAL, AND WHEN I LEAVE, THE
PERSON WHO REPLACES ME HAS GOT TO FIGHT LIKE HELL.
I MEAN THAT.
AND YOU ARE A CONSTITUENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
YOU HAVE TO TALK OF DISTRICT 7 AND NEW TAMPA.
I WANT SOUTH TAMPA.
I WANT TO SUPPORT MY FRIENDS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SUPPORT THAT 110.
BUT WE NEED EQUITY FOR DISTRICT 7 AND NEW TAMPA.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
A MOTION HAVING A COUPLE OF THINGS ASKING PARKS AND
RECREATION TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF THEIR SUGGESTED NEEDS
TO PUT AN EMPHASIS ON NONCRA AREAS, NUMBER ONE.
I AM WILLING TO STIPULATE WHATEVER PERCENTAGE TO SOUTH TAMPA
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS OUT THERE.
BUT I AM NOT GOING TO LET GO THE NEEDS THAT DISTRICT 7 HAVE
IN NORTH TAMPA.
A LOT WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE JUST LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS
SOUTH OF GANDY THAT ARE WORKING-CLASS, AND I WANT TO SUPPORT
THEM.
WE GOT TO SUPPORT THEM AND SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WE HEAR A LOT FROM A LOT OF PARKS IN TAMPA.
A LOT OF TIME MY CONSTITUENTS DON'T SHOW UP TO TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL.
JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHOW UP AT PUBLIC COMMENT DOESN'T
MEAN THEY DON'T GO TO WORK AND FUND OUR SALARIES AND PARKS.
I WANT THEM TO HAVE A VOICE AND SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT.
I REFER FOLKS BACK TO THE PARKS.
TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
WHAT DISTRICT DID THEY SAY HAD THE MOST AMOUNT OF PARKS AND
DEFICIT, DISTRICT 7.
ESPECIALLY NEW TAMPA, SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR
COMING UP FOR NEW TAMPA.
FIGHT FOR A LONG TIME FOR OUR FRIENDS AT K-BAR RANCH, AND WE
CAN'T FORGET THAT.
I WANT TO SUPPORT SOUTH TAMPA.
I HEAR FROM MY FRIENDS AND CONSTITUENTS IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND
I WANT TO SUPPORT COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THE THINGS HE WANTS
TO DO OUT THERE CERTAINLY.
I DO THINK WE NEED GUIDANCE FROM PARKS AND RECREATION FROM
ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY TO MODIFY SOME AND PUT ADDITIONAL
FUND FOR DISTRICT 7, REALLY NONCRA PARTS.
IF YOU WERE IN THE CRA, YOU HAVE THAT BUCKET OF MONEY THAT
YOU CAN GO TO, BUT LIKE COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG SAID, YOU HAVE
SULPHUR SPRINGS.
YOU HAVE OUR FRIENDS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
AND THEN YOU GOT NEW TAMPA AND THE WORKING-CLASS BACKBONE OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
03:30:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:30:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO RESIDENTS OF NORTH AND NEW TAMPA,
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN A HUGE CHAMPION FOR NINE OR
TEN YEARS, WHATEVER, HE HAS BEEN ON COUNCIL.
DURING THE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON HERE, HE HAS BEEN A HUGE
ADVOCATE FOR NORTH AND NEW TAMPA.
I THINK I APPROVED EVERYTHING THAT HE PROPOSED FOR THAT
AREA.
SOUTH TAMPA HAS -- AND OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE GOTTEN FIRE
STATION OR BUDGETED FIRE STATIONS IN PARKS AND DISABILITY
PARKS AND OTHER THINGS IN NORTH AND NEW TAMPA COMMUNITY
CENTERS.
AND SO I -- THERE IS ALWAYS MORE.
WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS PARKS ARE FALLING APART ALL OVER THE
CITY.
SIDEWALKS ARE FALLING APART ALL OVER THE CITY, AND ROADS ARE
FALLING APART ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT NEW TAMPA IS FUNDING
THE CRAS.
NORTH AND NEW TAMPA ARE FUNDING THE CRAS BECAUSE -- BECAUSE
THAT IS WHETHER THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
AND WHAT THIS MEMBERS IS THAT -- IS THAT WE ARE PAYING
POLICE AND FIRE AND THE CRA DISTRICTS ARE NOT.
AND SO SOUTH TAMPA HAS BEEN REALLY PAID FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS REQUEST DOES NOT COME FROM ME BUT FROM THE MOMS OF
SOUTH TAMPA AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS.
THEY FINALLY ARE FED UP.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS BEEN A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR
DISABILITY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CONSTITUENTS SHOWING ME THE
LAST FEW DAYS, I AM SURE YOU SAW PICTURES OF REGULAR SWINGS
FALLING APART FROM MOLD ALL OVER THEM.
THEY ARE FALLING APART.
SOME OF THEM ARE NOT SAFE.
BUT THE DISABILITY SWINGS AND ACCESSIBILITY ARE NOT WORKING
AT ALL, YOU GO TO PUT CONCRETE UNDERNEATH THE FACILITY SO
PEOPLE CAN GET IN WHEELCHAIRS.
LOOK AT THE LIST OF BASIC MAINTENANCE FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY APPROVING IT AS HE SAID NOT FOR ME
BUT FOR THE THOUSANDS OF MOMS, MANY OF THEM WITH KIDS WITH
DISABILITIES THAT WOULD LOVE TO GO TO THEIR OWN PARKS.
SECOND, TO THE TRANSIT ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TAKEN THIS OFF THE TABLE, BUT
I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN $20,000 TO $50,000 TO TRANSIT
NOW AND WE HAD AWAY AT THAT TEST OF FREESERVICE.
WE HAVE BETA TEST PAYING FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BETA TEST SEPARATE FROM THE OTHERS
THAT TRANSIT NOW PROMOTES A ROUTE.
ONE OF THEM THAT IS NOT ALREADY BEING FUNDED.
WE GIVE THEM LIKE $20,000 OR $50,000 AND ASK THEM TO PROMOTE
THAT ROUTE FOR A YEAR.
AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD INCREASE THE RIDERSHIP JUST
BECAUSE THEY PROMOTE IT AND MAKE IT FUN, WHICH MEANS THAT
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WILL HAVE TO GO ON THE BUS TOO.
I THINK WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE WILL INCREASE
TRAFFIC ON THE BUSES.
LAST THING, I THINK WE SHOULD PASS THIS AS IS AND LET THE
ADMINISTRATOR FIND THE OTHER $500,000 SINCE THEY SPENT THE
REST OF THE $100 MILLION ALREADY.
03:33:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
PUT YOUR MIC ON.
03:33:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DISTRICT 6 HAS BEEN NEGLECTED IF YOU LOOK
AT THE REST.
SOME PAVING STARTED THIS.
JUST ONE DAY THE OTHER DAY DRIVING AROUND THE DISTRICT, AND
I SAW PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALMOST COMPLETELY DONE.
AND ON GAME DAYS IN CERTAIN AREAS, YOU CAN'T GET IN AND OUT
OF YOUR HOME FOR AN HOUR BEFORE THE GAME BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC
IS COMING IN, AND THEN YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE FOR
AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE GAME.
THAT IS ANOTHER AREA WE HAVE.
WHEN YOU SEE ABOUT ACCIDENTS -- I AM GOING TO ASK FOR REPORT
OF ACCIDENTS AROUND A CERTAIN TIME AFTER THE LET OUT TO SEE
HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE CREATED IN NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC COMES FROM NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO GET
TO THE SECONDARY TO GET TO THE HIGHWAY.
IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO DRIVE WHEN YOU HAVE THE THINGS GOING
ON.
QUALITY OF LIFE DURING THOSE PERIODS OF TIME ARE LITTLE
DIMINISHED, BUT WE MAKE THE BEST WE CAN BECOME WHAT WE HAVE.
YOU LOOK AT OTHER SIDE, THE SIDE AROUND THE AREA WHERE THE
MALLS USED TO BE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO MALLS THERE NOW.
I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO MENTION THE NAME.
I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY.
BUT THE MALLS ARE GONE.
SO WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND.
SOONER OR LATER IT WILL BE HAPPENING.
SOLID.
GREAT PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK THERE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO DO BEST THEY CAN FOR FAMILIES INVOLVED
AND THANK GOD THAT THEY DO.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY PART OF
CITY.
WE HAVE -- I THINK DISTRICT 6 IS THE MOST DIVERSE DISTRICT
IN THE CITY BECAUSE IT HAS EVERYTHING.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE BECAUSE YOU
HAVE A MIX OF PERMITS, RACES, CREED, MONEY, EVERYTHING,
LESS, MORE.
SO IT GETS ALONG PRETTY WELL FOR WHAT IT IS.
AND IT IS DOING VERY WELL AND PROSPERING, I THINK.
JUST -- YOU KNOW, KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND GET
EVERYTHING AS PERFECT AS WE CAN.
03:35:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL PUT A FEW THINGS IN.
I AGREE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOUTH TAMPA PARKS.
THE ISSUE WHEN I READ THE SPECIFICS IS -- THE REQUEST WAS
ACTUALLY FOR 2.1 SOMETHING MILLION WITH THE EXTRA GOING TO
TREES.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE TREE FUND BECAUSE OF THAT.
I WOULD PREFER PUTTING EXTRA 300 INTO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
TREES BECAUSE WE HAVE A TREE FUND.
03:36:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A NEW LIST THAT TARA WORKED OUT WITH TED
FOWLER.
03:36:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT LIST.
03:36:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT WAS JUST YESTERDAY.
03:36:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
I THINK WE KIND OF NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BECAUSE RIGHT
NOW WE HAVE TO CUT A HALF MILLION FROM THIS LIST.
THAT WAS MY FIRST POINT.
DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS ANOTHER LIST, AND IT WAS SENT TO US --
BUT IF I STILL HAVE MY TIME, PLEASE.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR MISS KOPESKY.
IF YOU CAN ANSWER FOR ME -- AS SHE IS ANSWERING, IF YOU CAN
HOLD MY TIME -- FOR THE DISTRICT 6 PARK PLACEHOLDER.
WHAT IS THAT?
03:36:57PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
RIGHT.
AS I WAS MEETING WITH THE DIFFERENT OFFICES, ONE, I WANT TO
REMIND EVERYONE THAT PARKS -- FIRST OF ALL, SHOUT OUT TO MR.
FOWLER.
HE WAS VERY HELPFUL AND ASKED TO PULL FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE
WHAT HE HAD VISIBILITY THAT COULD DO IN THE PARKSYSTEM.
03:37:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NEED IT.
03:37:19PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I HAVE IT.
OF THAT LIST, APPROXIMATELY $1.3 MILLION OF HIS 3MILLION WAS
INCORPORATED INTO THE LIST YOU ARE LOOKING ON IN THE
POWERPOINT.
IT WAS A GOOD PARTNERSHIP IS WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT.
IN TERMS OF YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, I THINK NOT EVERYONE WAS
AS READY TO PULL TRIGGER ON THE SPECIFICITY OF WHERE THEY
MAY SEE THE GREATEST NEED IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
AND SO BY ALLOCATING A COMMITTED AMOUNT, IT WILL SAY HOW
MORE TIME TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION WHERE THAT IS BEST SERVED.
SO PARTICULAR CASE OUTSIDE OF HENRY AND OLA, LITTLE MORE
HOMEWORK TO BE DONE.
03:38:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SAME QUESTION FOR MISCELLANEOUS DISTRICT 5.
PARK REPAIRS?
03:38:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT CAME FROM -- JUST, LOOKING SOME OF PARKS,
YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAVING, MULCH, AND
REPLACING GRASS.
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
MISCELLANEOUS THINGS.
03:38:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIKE I SAID, I WANTED SPECIFICITY ON THAT.
AND THEN -- OKAY.
THAT -- THAT WAS REALLY MY QUESTION.
I SUPPORT PARKS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR -- SINCE I AM CITYWIDE, I CAN
JUST SUPPORT PARKS WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
ONE THING THAT I CHAMPION AND I'M THRILLED IN HERE IS THE
SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM INCREASE.
THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM FROM 48 TO 70 BECAUSE THE
COMMUNITIES THAT ASKED FOR THAT FOR MANY YEARS AND GLAD WE
CAN PARTICIPATE IN DOING THAT.
SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND -- THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS.
03:39:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ROUND?
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT -- WELL, LET'S TRY TO
FINISH THIS SECTION FIRST BEFORE WE HAVE GO TO SOCIAL ACTION
ARTS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL HAVE DISTRICT 6, DISTRICT 5,
DISTRICT 4 THAT WE NEED MORE SPECIFICS, MORE UPDATED
SPECIFICS.
DISTRICT 7.
03:39:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I?
03:39:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY ONE THAT HAVEN'T --
03:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE ARE SOME DISTRICT 7 REQUESTS IN HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WILL JUST SAY FROM EXPERIENCE WITH THINGS.
WHENEVER WE PASS THESE, THERE IS SOMETIMES THE BLACK HOLE OF
THE CITY BUDGET THAT WHEN YOU PASS SOMETHING, AND IF YOU
DON'T CHECK UP ON IT -- I SAY THIS TO ALL THE DISTRICT
MEMBERS, NEXT YEAR YOU GO, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT,
RIGHT.
SO YOU PUT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR DISTRICT 5.
AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE -- BY THE WAY, NOT BECAUSE
ANYBODY IN STAFF WANTS TO HIDE THE BALL.
STUFF JUST HAPPENS.
PEOPLE MAY FORGET, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
A POINT OF DISCUSSION.
ASK PARKS IN TERMS OF SPECIFICITY WHEN THIS IS NEEDED.
I WILL BE GLAD TO STIPULATE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT -- $2.5
MILLION REQUESTED HERE INCLUDING WHATEVER THE MOMENT AMOUNT
IS WITH THE TREES.
IF WE WANT TO SAY OUT OF THIS $2 MILLION GOES TO SOUTH
TAMPA, I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
I'M FINE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WITH THE PARKS, I HEAR THINGS AND FEEL THINGS.
AND SOUTH TAMPA.
IF WE NEED SLIGHT MODIFICATION FOR OTHER THINGS ESPECIALLY
IN NORTH TAMPA, THE FOWLER AND BUSCH COMMUNITIES.
I THINK THAT IS PIVOTAL.
03:41:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS KOPESKY HAS A LIST FROM MR. FOWLER.
IF WE CAN SWITCH TO THE WOLF.
03:41:16PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THAT WILL BE GREAT.
SOME ITEMS THAT WERE SELECTED.
03:41:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE THOSE THE CHECKS?
03:41:21PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
MY LITTLE CHECKS WHICH ARE HARDLY
VISIBLE.
YES.
JUST TO -- I WILL USE DISTRICT 5 AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS SOME COMPROMISES.
THERE WERE TWO POOLS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED TO HAVE DECKING
IMPROVEMENTS.
AND GIVEN WE KNEW WE HAD SOME CONSTRAINTS, WE NEEDED A
DECISION -- COUNCILWOMAN MADE A DECISION TO SELECT ONE.
TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WHERE THEY BROUGHT
FORWARD WHAT THEY THOUGHT THAT WERE THEY THINK, A, WAS
MEANINGFUL FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT AND THAT THEY
COULD GET TO IT EASILY.
03:42:04PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND WE ALSO -- I DID SPEAK WITH MR. FOWLER AS
WELL TO GET SPECIFICS ON EXACTLY WHAT ARE THE FACILITY
IMPROVEMENTS MAINTENANCE.
BELMONT HEIGHTS.
AND ONCE IT FALLS OUT OF CODE, THEN THEY ARE UNABLE TO USE
IT FOR THEIR GAMES.
JACKSON HEIGHTS FOR THE LIGHTS ON ITS FIELD.
THEY HAVE LITTLE TO NO LIGHTS.
YOU HAVE THE POOL DECK FOR THE CYRUS GREEN SCHOOL USED FOR
SUMMER AND PROGRAM.
AND KIDS ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GO TO THE POOL.
I DID ASK HIM FOR SPECIFICS ON WHAT EXACTLY THOSE
IMPROVEMENTS WERE.
03:42:51PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW YOUR
ATTENTION TO, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I KNOW TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT PALOMIS, GANDY NORTH AND GANDY SOUTH.
I NOTICED IN THIS DISTRICTS 4 EXCEPTION, BOARDWALK
REPLACEMENT, GANDY PARK FOR 270 AND IMPROVEMENT.
SO MUCH TODAY WAS TALKED DISCUSSING THE NORTH SIDE OF GANDY.
I WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT, AND THIS THEY
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
03:43:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE THESE ON YOUR LIST?
03:43:22PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
SELECTIONS TO MEET THE BUDGET REQUIREMENTS
WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
03:43:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:43:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHERE IS THIS LIST REFLECTED ON BUDGET YOU
JUST SHOWED US?
03:43:36PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
IF ITEMS WERE TAKEN FROM THIS LIST.
SO -- THE -- I THINK I WILL TELL THAT YOU I BELIEVE THERE
WAS A LOT OF WORK GOING ON ALREADY WITH THE GROUP IN
DISTRICT 7 -- DISTRICT 4 TO LOOK AT THE CHILD
INTERACTIVE SPECIFIC ITEMS.
NOT INCORPORATED IN THE POWERPOINT UNLESS ITEMS WERE LIFTED
FROM THIS LIST AND PUT INTO IT.
IN THIS CASE, I AM INTENTIONALLY SHOWING YOU YOUR SECTION
BECAUSE I KNOW IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF GANDY, WE HAD A
LARGE DISCUSSION TODAY.
BUT, NO, THE SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS --
03:44:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE THINGS ARE CHECKED.
03:44:14PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HE ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HIS.
IN DISTRICT 4 --
03:44:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT 2.5 -- NOT $5.5 MILLION PLUS 1.2.
03:44:24PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WENT AHEAD AND WANTED TO KNOW FOR MYSELF
WHAT WAS THE VALUE FROM THE PARK RECOMMENDED LIST THAT WAS
PUT IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND THAT IS 1.2.
03:44:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
I AM BEING TOLD IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PROPOSAL THAT THE TREES
ARE NOT INCLUDED.
MR. FOWLER WENT THROUGH WHOLE LIST.
AND HE WAS ABLE TO TELL US -- THE REQUEST FROM THE MOMS IN
SOUTH TAMPA.
THEM WENT AND CREATED THEIR OWN LIST OF THINGS BECAUSE WENT
PARK BY PARK.
THEY HAVE MORE OF A LIFESPAN AND KEEP IT STURDY.
AND NEXT THING TO HAVE A GRANT TO COVER SOMETHING.
WE CAN ASK HIM TO SEND A FULL LIST.
HE WAS VERY PRAGMATIC OF GOING ABOUT IT, AND WE CAN LOOK AT
THAT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, I TRY TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF
PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT THE FOLKS -- JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER HEAR A BIG
REQUEST IN SOUTH TAMPA, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA
KNOW THEY NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN OTHER PLACES.
BUT YOU LOOK AT THE 100-PLUS INVESTMENTS DOWNTOWN, AND YOU
COUNT WATER STREET AND ALL THE ARTS STUFF A COUPLE OF HUNDRED
MILLIONS.
FAIR OAKS PARK INCLUDING INTEREST WHICH IS LIKE 100 MILLION
OR AT THE VERY LEAST 40 MILLION OR WHATEVER.
WE HAVE THE RIVERWALK, WHICH IS INCLUDING INTEREST ANOTHER 20
MILLION.
HANNAH AVENUE, 220 MILLION.
SOUTH TAMPA GETS NOTHING LIKE THAT.
NOTHING.
FOLKS IN SOUTH TAMPA, I THINK, ARE BEING REASONABLE SAYING WE
NEED YOU TO FIX THE SWINGS THAT ARE THERE.
REPLACE THE ONES THAT ARE RUSTED.
AND CONCRETE INSTEAD OF MULCH SO KIDS WITH WHEELCHAIRS CAN
GET IN.
OTHER DISTRICTS GOT TENS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND MOMS OF
SOUTH TAMPA SAY CAN YOU GIVE US ENOUGH TO FIX THE BASIC
MAINTENANCE ON THESE THINGS.
03:46:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU DON'T HEAR ANYBODY SAYING THEY DON'T WANT
THAT.
03:46:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOUTH TAMPA DOESN'T GET ANY BECAUSE THEY
DON'T HAVE CRA.
03:46:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE A VERY GOOD POINT.
IF WE ARE NOT VERY SPECIFIC, I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE
APPROVING THIS WITHOUT HAVING AN EXACT LIST.
MY REQUEST IS SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR -- FOR MISS
KOPESKY TO WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WHO MADE THESE
REQUESTS AND MR. FOWLER TO COME BACK WITH THIS TRUE LIST OF
ALL THE THINGS, BECAUSE I AM -- I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH
THE WORD "PLACEHOLDER."
03:47:12PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
UNDERSTANDABLE.
AND JUST A HANDFUL AND WELCOME TO DO THAT.
03:47:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:47:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, BECAUSE IT WILL DEAL WITH SOUTH
TAMPA.
MAY I HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FIRST.
GO AHEAD.
03:47:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I CAN MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU JUST
MENTIONED.
ONE OF MY THINGS WAS TO ASK, WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF EXPECTATION WE WOULD APPROVE
SOMETHING TODAY, BUT BRINGING IT BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS
WITH MORE CLARIFICATION.
03:47:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WITH THE RESOLUTION, YES.
03:47:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD ASK US TO INCLUDE IN A MOTION OR I
WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST FOR THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT TO FIND THE $500,000 BECAUSE THEY SPENT 95% IN
THE OVERAGE AND FIND THAT AMOUNT.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE MINIMAL THINGS TO MAKE BETTER IN THE
COMMUNITY.
03:48:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT IS GREAT IDEA, BUT HISTORY HAS
SHOWN THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY ARE LIKELY TO DO.
IF WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER HALF MILLION, I THINK WE CAN ALSO
MAKE THAT --
03:48:16PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
MAKE THAT PART OF IT.
03:48:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SEPARATE MOTIONS JUST
ON THE.
03:48:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN THEY NEED IT, THEY FIND MONEY.
03:48:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T DISAGREE.
03:48:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT US ASKING FOR IT.
IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO LOOK GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UP MAKE A MOTION.
WHEN DO YOU WANT TO BRING THIS BACK?
03:48:40PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HERE IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.
GIVEN I BELIEVE PRIMARY DISTRICT 5 AND 6 GOING BACK WITH MR.
FOWLER.
03:48:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND 4.
03:48:51PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, ONLY REASON I PAUSED
THERE.
I HEARD TWO THINGS.
WE HAVE YOURS SPECIFICALLY BROKEN OUT FOR PLAY EQUIPMENT NEW
TAMPA, DEL RIO POOL STAND, COPELAND PARK, AND YOU SHOT FROM
THE HIP YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL.
AND THAT THE PLACE I WAS PAUSING.
03:49:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I WILL OFFER COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA,
TREE TRIMMING WAS PROBABLY MINE.
BUT KNOWING THAT -- WELL, THAT IS DIFFERENT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING $100,000,
TAKING IT OUT OF TREE TRIMMING AND GIVING TO DISTRICT 7.
03:49:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SOMEHOW.
03:49:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM GOING TO TAKE TREE TRIMMING OFF OF THAT
AND TURN IT INTO DISTRICT 7.
AND LET YOU WORK WITH THE TWO OF THEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU.
03:49:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, IF I MAY.
I WILL SUPPORT -- MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS MOTION TO HAVE IT
COME BACK.
I WILL SAY TO COME BACK SOON FOR PURPOSES OF MOMENTUM AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT TO WORK WITH DISTRICT COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE NEEDS OF
THE DISTRICT.
TO HAVE IT COME BACK.
AGAIN, WITH A LOT OF THE REQUESTS FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
REALLY ALL -- I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THEM.
VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE.
I WANT TO SEE SOME MORE MOVEMENT IN HERE FOR NOT JUST
DISTRICT 7, BUT THE FOWLER AND BUSCH COMMUNITIES.
FOR NEW TAMPA AND THE FOWLER AND BUSCH COMMUNITIES.
THEY DON'T SHOW UP IN CITY OF TAMPA FOR MANY REASONS.
THEIR VOICE AND VIRTUE OF THE HARD WORK THEY DO EVERY DAY.
WE CAN WORK IN OUR INDIVIDUALS OFFICES.
I AM FINE WITH THAT.
03:50:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WILL KEEP THE AMOUNTS WE HAVE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE THAT WE HAVE SPACE IS
MARCH 26.
03:50:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN'T PUT IT ON MARCH 5.
03:50:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO MORE ADDITIONAL ITEMS MAY BE ADDED.
WE MADE THAT SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE HAVE FIVE COMMENDATIONS AND
A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT DAY IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY PACKED.
03:50:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT ARE WE CALLING THIS?
03:51:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE KOPESKY FUND.
[LAUGHTER]
03:51:05PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WISH.
03:51:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CALLING THIS THE FY '25 SURPLUS.
03:51:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A MOTION AND ASK MISS KOPESKY TO BRING
BACK A MORE DETAILED LITTLE OF THE -- OF FISCAL -- TO
DISCUSS ON MARCH 26 --
03:51:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS AS WELL.
03:51:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS TO APPROVE THE BUDGET
AT THAT TIME, AND IN THE MEANTIME, TO HAVE STAFF ASK THE
DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE -- TO ASK US FOR EN PUT ON THE
SPECIFICS.
03:51:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
OKAY.
SO I HEAR A LOT OF THINGS.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD HAVE MISS KOPESKY LEAD THAT CHARGE
AS THE IN-BETWEEN STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SO SHE CAN KEEP
AN EYE ON ALL OF IT.
AND THEN SAW COUNCILMAN YOUNG'S LIGHT FIRST.
03:52:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO ARE WE DOING THIS FOR THE ENTIRE
LIST?
03:52:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
03:52:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND WHAT WE ARE WANTING IS TO COME BACK WITH
SPECIFICS.
WE WANT IT TO SAY CONCESSION STAND OR LIGHTIN.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
A MORE DETAILED LIST.
03:52:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE MOTION?
SO ARE WE APPROVING THIS LIST OF PRIORITIES?
BECAUSE, AGAIN, I AM -- I AM IN AGREEMENT.
03:52:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT THE LIST ON THE SCREEN.
TAKE THAT OFF.
03:52:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE ARE NOT APPROVING THE LIST.
WE ARE ASKING HER TO COME BACK.
03:52:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SUPPORT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
LOOK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, EVERYBODY SUPPORT SOMETHING
GOING TO SOUTH TAMPA.
THERE IS LITTLE MOVEMEN,T AND I CAN WORK OFF BASE.
WE ARE DEALING WITH TEN SUGGESTIONS, NOT THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS.
I CAN VOTE FOR THAT.
03:53:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:53:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT YOU HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS, 4,
5, 6 AND 7, SUM OF THE DIGITS OF THE TOTAL.
YOU HAVE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
DISTRICTS 1, 2, AND 3.
TRY SOMETHING WITH YOUR DISTRICT, COUNCIL MEMBER, MAKE
SURE YOU INCLUDE IT WITH DISTRICT 1, 2 AND 3.
IT IS BETTER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN QUICKER INSTEAD OF ONE
INDIVIDUAL CARRYING THE LOAD, FOUR INDIVIDUALS CARRYING.
03:53:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS KOPESKY WOULD BE A GOOD GO.
03:53:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT IS ON THE TABLE.
03:53:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING US.
YOU HAVE SAT IN THAT SEAT, YOU KNOW.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A MORE
SPECIFIC -- MISS KOPESKY TO COME BACK WITH A MORE SPECIFIC
LIST ON MARCH 26.
THE RESOLUTION -- HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THE RESOLUTION?
03:54:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I AM GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
03:54:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ASKED TO YOU PUT IT IN, BUT MR. SHELBY GAVE
ME A LOOK.
03:54:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I GAVE YOU A LOOK.
BUT CORRECT ME, HAS COUNCIL EVER DONE THIS BEFORE IN YEARS
PAST?
03:54:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
03:54:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, WE DID A RESOLUTION LAST YEAR.
03:54:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHO PRESENTED THE RESOLUTION?
03:54:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ADMINISTRATION DID.
03:54:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE TO DIVE IN WITH THE CHARTER.
THIS IS GOING INTO THE FY '26 BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT?
03:54:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEAN TECHNICALLY, YES.
IT IS THE LEFTOVER FROM FEBRUARY, FY '25.
03:54:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AMENDING THE '26 BUDGET.
03:54:43PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
IT IS.
03:54:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS.
03:54:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE APPROVED BUDGET AS PROJECTED BEFORE.
ADDITIONAL MONEY AND THE ADMINISTRATION WENT AHEAD AND SPENT
SOME OF THE EXTRA MONEY WITHOUT TELLING US.
CAN WE LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
03:54:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION IS TO LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
03:55:00PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ONE THING FOR
CLARIFICATION.
TO MAKE THE EXERCISE GO AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE.
UP $400,000 OVER.
WE WILL HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEY CAN COVER THAT AND
MAKE THAT AMOUNT AS A TOTAL.
I ALSO HEARD THAT I MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER MOVEMENT FOR
DISTRICT ALLOCATION FROM VIERA.
AS WE THINK OF LEAVING THIS ROOM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE
REMAIN IN TOTAL AT THIS 5.7.
IF WE HAVE TO CUT IT IS ONE THING BUT NOT GOING NORTH OF
5.7.
03:55:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, I SAW YOUR LIGHT FIRST.
03:55:39PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MY AMOUNT IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME.
03:55:43PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
THAT'S WHY I AM OPENING UP THE
CONVERSATION.
03:55:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
03:55:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR LATER ON.
03:55:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOUR LIGHT IS ON, THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
03:55:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY WITH THE 5 MILLION OR $5.7 MILLION.
I KNOW WE ARE NOT MARRYING OUR 70s TO THE PERCENTAGE.
THAT'S WHY I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
I AM GOOD.
03:56:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
-- GAVE DISTRICT 7.
$100,000 FOR THE TREES.
03:56:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
PER YOUR SUGGESTION, I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
03:56:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FOR MISS KOPESKY TO WORK WITH
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF TO MAKE THE LIST MORE SPECIFIC.
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, HE BELIEVE SECONDED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
LET'S MAKE THAT MOTION FIRST.
DO YOU WANT -- LET'S DEAL WITH SOCIAL ACTION ARTS BECAUSE
THAT IS SEPARATE.
FINE, GO AHEAD.
03:56:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE THIS ONE -- THIS ONE IS ABOUT DOING
THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS FIXING THINGS OF
GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO
WORK WITH MISS KOPESKY TO FIND AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO
COVER THE BUDGET AS PROPOSED AND RETURN MARCH 26, ADJACENT
TO THE OTHER ITEM, TO REPORT ON BUILD -- WHETHER AND
HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND THE $500,000.
03:57:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO DISCUSSION THIS, AND A
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT YOU INCLUDE THE CFO IN THAT AND NOT
JUST CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:57:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS THE ONE THAT
CAN LOOK ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS.
HE CAN WORK WITH THE CFO.
03:57:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. SHELBY.
03:57:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
$500,000 IN THE MOTION SPECIFICALLY FOR
WHAT?
03:57:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID FOR THE OVERAGE.
03:57:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OVERAGE.
03:57:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LIST.
03:57:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OF THE PRIORITIZATION LIST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:57:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC?
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
BACK TO SOCIAL ACTION ARTS FUNDING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO, HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS FIRST.
IT IS THE SAME THING.
FIRST ROUND, THREE MINUTES EACH.
03:58:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE GOING BY
YOUR LIST.
I AM NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES BECAUSE OF BUDGET CONSTRAINTS.
THE PORTICO THIS YEAR AND CURRENT BUDGET GOT COMPLETELY CUT,
CORRECT?
03:58:32PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
CORRECT.
03:58:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TBAE AND SPEAK UP TAMPA BAY AND CRISIS
CENTER AND VICTIMS ADVOCATE.
IUPCOMING MAKING THE REQUEST OF 75, 75, 24.
AND $100,000 TO THE PORTICO.
03:58:50PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
CORRECT.
03:58:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CUTTING EVERYBODY -- CUTTING A FEW OF
THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO ZERO IS EXTREMELY HARMFUL, I
UNDERSTAND, BUT LOOKING FORWARD AND WHAT IS UPCOMING, YOU
KNOW, THE PORTICO IS GOING BACK UP TO 100.
AND OTHERS RECEIVED A HAIRCUT OR A SIGNIFICANT HAIRCUT.
BUT I WOULD RATHER THEN GIVE THEM 60%, 50% SOMETHING
OTHER THAN GOING DOWN TO ZERO.
EACH ORGANIZATION IS LOOKING AT THEM AND TRYING TO LEARN
WHAT THEY DO.
THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THIS COMMUNITY IN WHATEVER WAY, A
$500,000 ITEM OR $100,000.
COMMUNITY STEPPINGSTONES WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.
LOOK AT THIS ARTWORK IN THE BACK, BUT THE SERVICE THEY
PROVIDE FOR THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
THE CRISIS CENTER.
I WON'T EVEN GO INTO THAT.
PORTICO, THEY WERE HERE RECENTLY.
TALK OF THE HOMELESS, HOUSELESS, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
DOWN THE STREET.
SKILLS CENTER WITH WHAT THEY DO.
03:59:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GET THAT BACK ON THE SCREEN SO THE PUBLIC CAN
HEAR AS THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR AS MANISCALCO IS TALKING OF
THIS.
04:00:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RISE UP FOR PEACE.
GUN VIOLENCE.
I LOOKED DIRECTLY FROM THAT ORGANIZATION HOW IT EMPOWERED
YOUNG MEN.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO ANY OF THEIR EVENTS, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR
STRENGTHS.
I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY DOWN TO ZERO.
I AM HAPPY WITH WHAT IS PROPOSED.
I WISH I COULD GIVE EVERYBODY EVERYTHING, BUT I THINKING
THIS IS WITHIN REASON, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA MENTIONED THE --
THE PENGUIN PROJECT.
I MEAN THAT -- THERE ARE SO MANY SPECIAL ORGANIZATIONS HERE
THAT ARE MEANINGFUL, BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK, WHAT YOU GET IN
RETURN FOR SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS.
GETTING TO KNOW THESE ONE BY ONE, SO MANY OF THESE
ORGANIZATIONS.
THE LEAST WE CAN DO FOR THEM.
RETURN ON INVESTMENT YOU CAN'T PUT AN APPRAISAL OR MONETARY
VALUE ON IT WHEN YOU ARE SHAPING LIVES.
CORNERSTONE KIDS.
I KNOW PEOPLE IN ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS BUT
THEY MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE.
THAT'S IT.
04:01:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:01:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM.
QUICK QUESTION FOR MISS KOPESKY.
VETERANS HELPING VETERANS, THEY GOT $24,000?
04:01:18PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
CORRECT.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS SATISFACTORY,
IT DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE LIST.
YEP.
04:01:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
I WAS THINKING OF THEM.
NUMBER ONE, THE PORTICO.
ACCORDING TO MY RECOLLECTION, WE WERE TOLD AT THE BUDGET
HEARING THAT $100,000 WILL BE SATISFIED IN THE BUDGET.
WHEN I SAW THAT FOR THE PORTICO HOW IT AFFECTED SOLUTIONS TO
THE SECULAR ARM OF THE PORTICO.
I WAS DISTRESSED.
THAT IS TOO STRONG OF A WORD.
THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING.
HOUSING THAT WAS PROMISE TODAY ARE LOW-INCOME PEOPLE AND
RETURNING CITIZENS NEAR THE PORTICO.
THAT HAS GOT TO BE SATISFIED IN FULL.
IT DOES MORALLY.
TO DO ANYTHING ELSE IS TERRIBLE.
THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I AM REQUESTING HERE.
AGAIN, BY THE WAY, OTHER THAN PORTICO, I AM NOT ASKING FOR A
FULL AMOUNT REQUESTED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO COMPROMISE.
AND I AM ALL ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE ON
THE BACKS OF MENTALLY DISABLED PEOPLE, ETC.
SORRY, BUT NOT SORRY.
THE PENGUIN PROJECT, 75,000.
DOWN TO $15,000.
WHY?
WHY?
49 -- LONG STORY.
GO TO NEW JERSEY, $49.95 IS ALLOWS THEM TO GET A MATCHING
COUNTY GRANT.
LIKE A 40% CUT.
THAT'S FINE.
YBOR CITY MUSEUM, AN ORGANIZATION IGNORED YEAR AFTER YEAR
CUT DOWN FROM $150,000 TO $45,750.
I WILL TAKE A 40% TO 50%.
GIVE THEM $90,000.
I AM FINE WITH THAT.
PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
TWO THAT HAVE COME.
GOLD STAR MOTHERS.
THEY ARE NEW.
AGAIN, $4500.
I CAN EXPLAIN THAT.
TWO OTHERS ONCE THAT CAME UP, THE CRISIS CENTER OF TAMPA
BAY.
STARTED A VICTIMS OF CRIME PROGRAM.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO MENTIONED THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT
OUR FRIENDS FROM RISE UP FOR PEACE.
THIS WAS ZEROED OUT FOR VICTIM ADVOCATES.
STAGE WORKS, THEY ARE REQUESTING MONEY FROM US.
THEY DO AMAZING WORK.
THEY -- I AM SAYING, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WANT TO PUT IT IN
THERE, YEAH.
ARE THEY LATE FOR THE GAME, ABSOLUTELY.
I TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM WITH THE CRA BEHIND THE SCENES THAT
HAVEN'T COME TO THE FRUITION.
I LOVE TO SUPPORT THEM AND THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.
THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH THE PENGUIN PROJECT AND PORTICO,
GOES A LONG WAY FOR THOSE WITH BIG HEARTS.
04:04:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SAY CORNERSTONE KIDS $20,000 ALLOWS
THEM TO GET A MATCHING GRANT.
STEPPINGSTONES, THE POOL IS STILL CLOSED, SOMETHING THAT
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON CHAMPIONED, AND YOU CEMENT THAT UP FOR
HER.
COUNCILMAN YOUNG.
04:04:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TO ECHO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
FOR SOMEONE THAT WORKED IN NONPROFIT, NONPROFITS DO AND
AND SOMETIMES -- WE KNOW THESE NONPROFITS.
SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW THE KIND OF WORK OR PENNIES THAT
NONPROFITS HAVE TO RUB TOGETHER TO DO PROGRAMMING.
I HAVE BEEN IN THAT POSITION.
ESPECIALLY YOU HAVE SOME NONPROFITS IN THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE
COUNTRY FUNDING FOR NONPROFITS.
YOU HAVE THEM.
THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO MAKE PROGRAMMING WORK.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS -- WHEN -- WHEN YOU ARE IN THE
BUILDING, YOU ARE THINKING IF I DON'T HAVE PROGRAMMING, THAT
MEANS PEOPLE AREN'T COMING OR KIDS ARE NOT COMING OR KIDS
ARE OUT THERE DOING WHATEVER.
AND THE SENIORS ARE OUT THERE DOING WHATEVER.
AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION, KEEP THE DOORS OPEN AND
DO AND HOME THAT SOMETHING COMES IN OR NOT.
SO I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF -- OF NONPROFITS AND THE WORK
THAT THEY DO IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
IF IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN FINE THE FUNDING TO -- YOU
KNOW, TO DO THESE INCREMENTAL, SMALL INCREASES, I THINK SO
IT IS WORTH IT.
THEY STAND IN THE GAP WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY OR EVEN
SCHOOL SOMETIMES CAN'T.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY -- MY THOUGHTS.
04:05:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
JUST A REMINDER, THAT ON THE MAY 28 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP,
WE HAVE -- I MADE A MOTION TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE
SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE
AGAIN.
SO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE FUNDING.
HOW WE ARE DOING IT.
I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF THAT.
SO GOING FORWARD, ARE WE SET, ARE WE GOOD?
ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD WANT TO SAY?
04:06:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION ON SOME OF THINGS
I TALKED ABOUT FOR GETTING COUNCIL'S SUPPORT FOR SOME OF
THESE?
04:06:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK WE HAVE THE MEANS TO SUPPORT THE ONES
THAT ARE HERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN --
04:06:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAVE?
04:06:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE $500,000 OVERAGE FOR THIS ONE HURTAK
THURSDAY THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
04:06:31PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
TO BE CLEAR, THE 500 OVERAGE IS INCLUDED
THIS.
EVERYTHING.
I WAS ANTICIPATING THAT BARRING ANY NEW ADDITIONAL PEOPLE
COMING IN.
THAT THE SOCIAL ACTION COMPONENT WILL BE ACTIONED AND MOVED
SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AND WORK
THROUGH THE OTHER PAGES.
04:06:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:06:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL SAY BEING IN THE CORNER BY MYSELF,
BE CAREFUL HOW YOU DO THINGS, BECAUSE, A, YOU DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE, B, YOU DON'T KNOW THE RISE
OF COST AND SALARIES AND INSURANCE.
YOUR BUDGET MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO BE IN
THE COMING YEARS.
04:07:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE REASONABILITY GOING TO BE TALKING OF THE
BUDGET, BUT THE PROCESS.
04:07:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PROCESS IS THE MONEY.
THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU.
04:07:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS TRUE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SAW YOUR LIGHT.
04:07:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL FAST.
CHANGE THE NAME OF PORTICO TO PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION JUST
TO BE CLEAR.
I HAVE SPOKEN UP IN THE PAST AND ONE OF DIRECTIONS OF THE
FUTURE OF THE ECONOMY AND TIED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
IF WE WERE DOING REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD OF 80s
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE WOULD EASILY FUND THAT.
WE ARE DOING OLD KIND OF STUFF.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON RECOMMENDED THAT WE PUT A ONE-YEAR
LIMIT ON THESE.
I KNOW SHE PASSED AWAY.
BUT I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT THE
CITY IS GOING TO FUND SOMETHING ON A REGULAR BASIS, EXCEPT
THAT AS WE GO TO THE -- TO THIS DISCUSSION IN MAY, I THINK
-- IF -- TO A LOT PEOPLE, THIS LOOKS LIKE A POLITICAL LIST.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE IS FOLLOWING THE STRATEGY OF
THE CITY, AND WE CAN GIVE OUR STRATEGY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
ADMINISTRATION.
BUT THEY SHOULD GO UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
RISE UP FOR PEACE PROBABLY SHOULD GO UNDER TPD SOMEHOW.
THE SKILL CENTER SHOULD PROBABLY BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
PUNT THESE IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
NOT TO MAKE THEM PAY FOR IT, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN
ALIGNMENT STRATEGY WHERE THE NONPROFITS ARE PROVIDING
SOMETHING THAT CITY CAN'T PROVIDE OR PROVIDING AT A BETTER
COST.
PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTION GO UNDER HOUSING.
REALLY DON'T LIKE GETTING HUNDREDS E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE
ADVOCATING FOR THEIR NONPROFITS.
STAGE WORKS, I PUT A LOT OF MY OWN MONEY IN THEM OVER THE
YEARS.
LOVE THEM.
I WOULD -- LAB THEATRE IS E-MAILING US NOW.
TO ME, IT SHOULDN'T BE A FREE-FOR-ALL WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE
DECISIONS AMONG OUR FRIENDS.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT OBJECTIVELY AND FIGURE OUT
WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING.
ALSO, ON SOME OF THESE LIKE PENGUIN PROJECTS AND OTHERS,
MAYBE IT SHOULD GO UNDER RAQUEL.
MAYBE RAQUEL SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET TO TRY TO FIGURE -- MAYBE
SOMETHING YOU SHOULD DO BEFORE YOU LEAVE COUNCIL MEMBER,
COUNCILMAN, VIERA, HOW RAQUEL SOLVES NOT ONLY RESPONDING
TO PEOPLE.
BUT THE STRATEGY TO HELP PEOPLE LIVING BETTER LIVING AND GET
BETTER JOBS AND INTERNSHIPS.
SOME COULD BE PART OF A LARGER STRATEGY THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO
WORK OUT AND DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
04:10:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
WHOLE POINT OF THE MAY CONVERSATION.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON OR MANISCALCO.
04:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE ARE AT $485,000.
SQUEEZE IN $15,000 FOR STAGE WORKS.
04:10:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
AND I READ THIS WRONG.
SHOULD I, MADAM CHAIR, TO SPEAK?
04:10:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:10:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
I READ THIS WRONG.
I WAS GOING TO MAKE MOTIONS.
ALREADY PUT IN THERE.
MY APOLOGIES.
IT IS ALREADY IN THERE.
I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF $15,000 FOR STAGE WORKS.
04:10:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE REASON I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS IS
BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST A GRASS-ROOTS E-MAIL CAMPAIGN.
NOT THAT I THINK THAT IS A BAD IDEA, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
THERE IS A GRASS-ROOTS E-MAIL CAMPAIGN BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH
26 FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
04:10:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT ME TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION?
04:11:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST THROWING IT OUT AND PLAYING THE
DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
I SIDE WITH YOU THAT I LIKE ROUND NUMBERS.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I AM JUST SAYING --
THAT IS THE WHOLE THING.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO GO INCIDENT TO GO TOFAR IN THE WEEDS AND
ASKED MISS KOPESKY TO ROUND UP ALL OF THE OPTIONS.
MY ONLY HESITATION IS IF WE CRACK THE DOOR.
04:11:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WILL CRACK THE DOOR AND MAKE IT AN
EASY 500.
EASY TO REMEMBER 500 RATHER THAN 485.
04:11:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND, IF I MAY.
04:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAKE A MOTION TO ADD $15,000 TO THE LIST
FOR STAGE WORKS.
04:11:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL SECOND, AND MAY I, MADAM CHAIR.
WALL IS GOING DOWN, HAT UP, AND GREAT LAKES THE HAT.
THIS IS IT.
WE ARE DONE.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE ARE DONE.
THAT IS WHERE I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
AND, YES, THIS LIST WAS GREAT, AND HAGAR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
04:12:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO TO
MAKE IT AN EVEN $500,000 BY ADDING $15,000 FOR STAGE WORKS.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
SO MISS KOPESKY, WHAT IS THE FUTURE PLAN FOR THIS?
WHAT DO YOU NEED FOR US TO MOVE THIS FORWARD?
04:12:35PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO REACH OUT
TO THE OFFICES INDIVIDUALLY.
MAKE SURE WHATEVER IS NOT CRYSTAL CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE
PARK-RELATED ASKS --
04:12:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TALK OF SOCIAL ACTION ARTS COMMITTEE.
04:12:50PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
IN TERMS OF THE SOCIAL ACTION, I WAS THINKING
I NEED TO CONNECT STAGE WORKS TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND NEED TO REACH OUT TO SOMEONE IN TERMS OF CONTRACT.
AND WE WILL GET THE APPLICATION IN AND BE PART OF THE
PROCESS.
AND OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN BE POINT ONLY GETTING BACK TO THE
ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF BASICALLY THIS BEING THE REQUEST
THAT WE WANT TO ALLOW THEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
04:13:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT STAFF COME
BACK WITH A RESOLUTION MOVING THIS MONEY AT THE BEGINNING OF
MARCH AS PART OF THE -- JUST THE -- NO, THE -- WHAT PART OF
THE AGENDA AM I TALKING ABOUT?
I AM SORRY, Y'ALL.
JUST THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CAN I GET A MOTION -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA MADE A MOTION TO ASK
STAFF TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SOCIAL
ACTION ARTS FUNDING.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE SOCIAL ACTION ARTS MONEY OUT THE
DOOR.
THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE SPEED.
I WOULD ASK FOR THE 19th BUT TOMORROW IS THE DEADLINE AND
THAT IS NOT GOING TO WORK.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS ASKING FOR MARCH 6.
BECAUSE TODAY IS THE 6th.
SORRY, MARCH 5th.
TO COME BACK MARCH 5th.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, I AM SURE COUNCILMAN VIERA'S OFFICE
WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP.
04:14:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY I ADD ONE THING?
04:14:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:14:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOUR ITEM ON MAY 28, MAKE A MOTION THAT SAYS
THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF STRATEGY AND NOT SPECIFIC
ORGANIZATIONS TO FUND?
04:14:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
THAT IS THE INTENT, ABSOLUTELY.
04:14:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE A SECOND?
04:15:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY 26 WORKSHOP.
04:15:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
28th.
MY MOTION IS TO ADD A SENTENCE AT THE END THAT SAYS THIS
IS A DISCUSSION OF STRATEGY, NOT SPECIFIC FUNDING OF
ORGANIZATIONS.
04:15:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
DO WE HAVE THAT?
04:15:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ON THERE NOW.
04:15:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM JUST ASKING.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
ALL IN FAVOR.
04:15:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DON'T E-MAIL US OF INDIVIDUAL -- WE DON'T
NEED THOUSANDS OF E-MAILS.
04:15:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
E-MAIL ABOUT STRATEGY.
IF YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL ABOUT STRATEGY, I AM TALKING TO
MISS BLUMA ABOUT THAT.
SHE IS VERY HELPFUL.
OKAY.
ARE WE DONE?
I AM VERY PROUD OF US.
THAT WAS HARD DISCUSSION.
YES, THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
SO -- SO WE ARE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
I WILL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
04:16:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
I HAVE THREE ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.
HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THE BUDGET OFFICE STAFF APPEAR MAY 7,
2026, REGULAR COUNCIL SESSION TO BE RECOGNIZED OF THE
ASSOCIATION DISTINGUISHED PRESENTATION AWARD WITH SPECIAL
RECOGNITION GIVEN TONIGHT STRATEGIC GOALS AND STRATEGIC FOR
FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 2025.
04:16:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
04:16:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
04:16:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
04:16:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION TO HAVE THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE STAFF APRIL 2, 2026 TO
BE RECOGNIZED FOR RECEIVING THE FINANCE ASSOCIATION
CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR SENDING SETTLEMENT 30, 2024.
04:16:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
04:16:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
04:17:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
04:17:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
04:17:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIRDLY, IF I MAY.
A LOT OF DISRUPTION IN SOME OF MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT 6 WHERE
THEY GET A PERMIT AND ENTITLED TO THAT AND 50,000, 20,000
PEOPLE.
POLICE ARE THERE.
PEOPLE ARE URINATING.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SMOKING PART BUT A LOT OF DRINKING.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO BRING FORWARD IN THE JULY 2026
CYCLE, LANGUAGE FOR REGULATORY OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND
NOT ALLOWING ALCOHOL ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BY LIMITING
PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A NONRESIDENTIAL USE FOR NO MORE
THAN 100 PERSONS.
04:17:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
04:17:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
I WILL TELL YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, THAT MY OFFICE IS
LOOKING AT THAT TOO.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT MISS SHARP TOLD ME SHE FOUND
OUT THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY REQUESTED A PERMIT FOR NEXT YEAR
AND THAT WAS DENIED.
04:18:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT WAS DENIED.
04:18:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW DO WE DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR HANDLING THAT BECAUSE THAT E-MAIL WAS
ATROCIOUS.
UNREAL.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
04:18:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:18:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I MOVE TO RECEIVE THE DOCUMENT RECUSING
MYSELF ON ITEMS WE PASSED TODAY -- OR LAST WEEK.
04:18:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND A
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO TO ACCEPT THAT
DOCUMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO
04:18:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MADE THIS MOTION THE OTHER
DAY.
BUT SINCE THE CRA MEETING WAS CANCELLED, I WASN'T ABLE TO
CLARIFY BUT PUT ON AGENDA THURSDAY COMING UP BEFORE THE
CRA, PRESENT ACCOMMODATION TO THE NAACP FOR THEIR
ANNIVERSARY.
IT HAS TO BE THAT DATE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FOUNDING OF THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION IS ON THAT DATE,
NUMBER ONE.
I THINK IT WAS THE 12th.
04:19:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
04:19:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
1908 -- 1909.
FROM THE STATE LEVEL, NAACP OFFICEHOLDERS.
I WANT TO PUT THAT ON AGENDA.
WE HAD THAT CRA CANCELLATION AND NO CONFUSION.
04:19:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
04:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY OFFICE WILL PREPARE THAT
COMMENDATION.
LAST WEEK, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MADE A MOTION TO TENTATIVELY
CONTINUE THE COUNCILMAN SALARY DISCUSSION TO THE AUGUST '26
WORKSHOP.
NOW THAT I SEE THE CALENDAR, NO WORKSHOP IN AUGUST AND WORK
TO AMEND THAT MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THE SALARY
DISCUSSION, 46-58 TO THE SETTLEMENT 24, 2026 WORKSHOP.
04:20:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO, FOR DOING THAT FOR
ME.
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO'S MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ON OTHER BASES WE ARE DOING THAT.
WE ARE GETTING AGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION A WEEK BEFORE.
IF IT IS SETTLED WITH THE CHARTER.
THAT WILL BE SETTLED WITH THE CHARTER.
IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT UP WE WILL TAKE IT UP.
THAT IS KIND OF THE FAILSAFE.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
04:20:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE LAST MOTION IS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
A MOTION OF A COMMENDATION TO TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL AT MacDILL FOR THEIR CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION.
I WILL HAVE IT OFF-SITE BUT AN EXACT DATE HAS YET TO BE
TERMED.
04:20:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
04:20:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO AND A
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED YOUR PIPE FOR THIS ONE.
[LAUGHTER]
, WE NEED YOU TO ZERO IN.
THERE WE GO.
[LAUGHTER]
OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
[LAUGHTER]
SO I DID -- I REMARKED THE LAST TIME THAT COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO WORE THAT SWEATER.
HE SAID HE NEEDED A PIPE.
SO HE --
04:21:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT IS NOT LIT AND NOTHING IN IT.
IT IS EMPTY.
04:21:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT IT?
EXCELLENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG.
04:21:25PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
ALL RIGHTY.
SO I WANT TO START OFF BY, ONE, WE HAD A -- OR WE HAD A VERY
SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY TOWN HALL ON SAFETY IN YBOR.
IT WAS A VERY WELL-ATTENDED.
THANK YOU TO STAFF THAT WAS PRESENT.
WE HAD OUR CRA, MOBILITY, TPD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ATTENDED AS WELL.
AND IT -- IT WAS REALLY GREAT, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK
ALL THE STAFFED THAT CAME OUT AND MADE SURE IT WAS POSSIBLE.
IT WAS GREAT.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING MORE OF THEM AND CONTINUING
THAT CONVERSATION.
I ACTUALLY HAD SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN OTHER AREAS THAT
CAME UP TO ME AND SAID CAN WE HAVE ONE OF THESE IN OUR
COMMUNITY AS WELL.
THEY APPRECIATED WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION.
AND IT WENT -- I FELT IT WENT VERY WELL AND POSITIVE AND
WHAT I WANT IT TO BE, AND I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
HAPPY ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
IN HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE
ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT EAST TAMPA UNVEILED A NEW COMMUNITY MURAL.
WE WERE IN COUNCIL THAT DAY.
SO I COULD NOT ATTEND AT THE CHLOE CONEY URBAN ENTERPRISE
CENTER ON EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND MURAL THEME IS UP ON
THE SCREEN THERE "BE ALL YOU CAN BE."
SIX REMARKABLE WOMEN.
MISS CHLOE CONEY, THE FOUNDER OF CRC.
DR. FRANKIE A. BARRY, A WELL-RESPECTED MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL
EDUCATOR.
COUNCILWOMAN GWEN MILLER, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE
ELECTED TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
PATRICIA PEARCE COLEMAN, CITY OF TAMPA FIRST
AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE POLICE OFFICER.
SYLVIA RODRIGUEZ KIMBELL, FIRST ELECTED OFFICIAL AS A
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
THERESA EMMANUEL, FIRST OLYMPIAN AND FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN
WOMAN FROM FLORIDA TO COMPETE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES.
AMAZING, AMAZING MURAL.
ARTIST AND DESIGNER.
HER NAME IS MICHELLE SAWYER AND COLLABORATED WITH STUDENTS
FROM THE PACE CENTER OF GIRLS, TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART AND
VARIOUS SUPPORTERS TO PUT THIS MURAL TOGETHER.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL IF -- I HAVE DRIVEN BY IT A FEW TIMES.
AND I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FANTASTIC JOB.
BLACK HISTORY EVENTS HAPPENING.
WE HAVE THE ANNUAL BLACK HISTORY CELEBRATION TOMORROW
HONORING OUR VETERANS HOSTED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK
HISTORY COMMITTEE.
IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ONE OF THOSE FLYERS AROUND, YOU ARE
PROBABLY WALKING WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED BECAUSE THEY HAVE
BEEN AROUND EVERYWHERE.
IT WILL BE A FANTASTIC CELEBRATION TOMORROW AND LOOKING
FORWARD TO THAT.
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS HOSTING THE
BLACK LOVE SERIES EVERY SUNDAY AT THE TAMPA THEATRE AT 3
P.M. THE -- I LOVE THE TAMPA THEATRE.
IT IS JUST -- I -- IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.
I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING TO THIS WITH ME AND MY
HUSBAND.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS.
ALSO,I WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH OUR LAST
MOTION OF PASSING THE FUNDING FOR THE SOCIAL ACTION ARTS
FUND, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF GWEN HENDERSON'S PRIORITIES
BEFORE SHE PASSED TO MAKE SURE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WERE
FULLY FUNDED AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT TODAY.
SO THANK YOU.
I AM AN AVID TEA DRINKER.
YOU SEE ME UP HERE A LOT TIME WITH A LOT OF COFFEE, BUT I
LOVE TEA.
I LOVE YOGI TEAS.
THEY HAVE QUOTES ON THE BACK OF THEM.
THE ONE I HAD TODAY WAS THAT COMPASSION WAS YOUR STRENGTH.
COMPASSION AND EMPATHY ESPECIALLY NOW IN THIS DAY AND
TIME.
REMEMBER UP HERE, I AM A PUBLIC SERVANT.
I DON'T LIKE TO CALL MYSELF A POLITICIAN.
COMPASSION AND EMPATHY IS IMPORTANT.
04:25:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
04:25:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, GUIDO.
04:25:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
04:26:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, YES, MA'AM, COUPLE OF THINGS.
A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT FOR A SIGNALIZED LIGHT IN NEW TAMPA
BOULEVARD TO RETURN ON MARCH 26.
AGAIN, A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
04:26:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
04:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE MOVIE THEATRE.
04:26:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHERE MY SON WORKS.
NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
I HEARD IT ON THE TOWN HALL.
SECOND, I GOT A LETTER OF SUPPORT OF OUR STREET RENAMING
FOR THE LATE OFFICER MORRIS LOPEZ.
IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WHAT YOU DID ON IT, PLEASE
LET ME KNOW NOW.
MY MOTION PURSUANT TO THE SATISFIED PROCEDURE UNDER OUR
ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER IT WAS ON STREET RENAMINGS.
I MOTION A STREET RENAMING FOR THE LATE OFFICER MORRIS LOPEZ
IN YBOR CITY TO BE BROUGHT FOR A PRESENTATION RECOMMENDATION
BY STAFF ON MARCH 26 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ON THERE.
04:27:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, WE DO.
04:27:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IVE I HAVE A MOTION.
04:27:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED.
04:27:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE I DO MY LAST MOTION I MENTIONED THIS
AND I GOT MY AIDE TO PRINT IT OUT.
FEBRUARY 13, 2026, MICHAEL PHILLIPS FOUNDATION INAUGURAL
LUNCHEON.
04:27:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WANT UPS TO PUT IT UP?
04:27:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS GOING TO PUT IF ON THE
ZOOM, THE WOLF OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
SO ANYBODY JUST PLEASE COME TO THIS.
FIRST ANNUAL ONE OF THAT.
AND IT IS NAMED AFTER MIKE PHILLIPS, DONE BY KAREN CLAY, WHO
IS A WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL.
JUST FOR THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LASTLY, IF I MAY.
I HAD DONE A MOTION ON THIS BEFORE THAT GOT A LOT OF
DISCUSSION.
THIS IS THE MOTION THAT I THINK AND, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,
THAT FOLKS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH, MOTION TO ADD TO THE
FEBRUARY 26, 2026 WORKSHOP DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL INCLUSION
OF A TEXT AMENDMENT IN THE JANUARY 2027 CYCLE FOR THE LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE TO A PORTION OF ELECTRONSC SIGN NOT TO BE
ACTIVATED IN 15 SECONDS PER MESSAGE CYCLE, AND I WILL GIVE
YOU ALL THE LANGUAGE IF IT PASSES.
LIMITED USE FOR AN ARENA, STADIUM OR VENUE.
IT IS WHAT FOLKS WANTED.
UNLESS IF I AM WRONG THAT COUNCIL HAD A COMPROMISE.
04:28:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DATE AGAIN?
04:28:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
FEBRUARY 26.
04:28:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
AND THAT IS THE CONVERSATION IN THE FEBRUARY WORKSHOP.
OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
DO YOU WANT TO READ THAT VOTE?
04:28:50PM >>Clerk:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:29:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM VOTING NO ON THAT.
04:29:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WANT ME TO REPEAT IT?
4-2, CORRECT
04:29:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AND CLENDENIN ABSENT.
04:29:14PM >>CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON AND CARLSON VOTING NO
AND CLENDENIN ABSENT.
04:29:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I WILL HAND THIS OVER BECAUSE I HAVE TWO.
ON AUGUST 7, 2025, TPD PRESENTED AN IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT
ON HOWARD AVENUE EVIDENCE PROJECTS.
SIX MONTHS AND CONSTRUCTION BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION PROCESS
IS NOW COMPLETE.
I WOULD LIKE THIS COUNCIL TO HEAR ANOTHER IN-PERSON STAFF
REPORT IN ADVANCE OF A RESOLUTION COMING TO US FOR APPROVAL
TO MOVE FORWARD.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO COME AND PRESENT TO
US TWO WEEKS BEFORE THEY BRING US A RESOLUTION.
IF THEY BRING US A RESOLUTION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR IT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS MOTION SAYS, UNTIL WE'VE HEARD AN UPDATE ON
IT.
4:30:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
4:30:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I MOTION THAT TPD AND CONTRACT -- I'M SORRY.
THIS IS ALL -- WHOOPS.
THIS WAS ONE MOTION.
I MOTION THAT TPD AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PROVIDE AN
IN-PERSON UPDATED PROJECT STATUS REVIEW ON MARCH 5, 2026.
IN ADVANCE OF THAT MEETING, COUNCIL SHOULD DIRECT SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT TO OUR BUDGET ANALYST WHO
WILL WORK WITH MY OFFICE AND STAFF TO INCORPORATE ALL
DESIRED INFORMATION INTO THE MARCH STAFF REPORT.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
4:30:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT A NEW MOTION?
4:30:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S ALL PART OF ONE MOTION.
I'LL RESCIND MY FIRST MOTION.
4:30:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE FIRST MOTION WAS SET FOR WHAT DAY?
4:30:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WAS NO FIRST DATE.
I READ IT WRONG.
4:30:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I SEE.
4:30:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M PULLING THAT MOTION.
4:30:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RESCIND THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
4:30:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL THAT WAS, WAS A PARAGRAPH AND I READ IT
WRONG.
ALL OF THIS GOES TOGETHER.
I HAVE IT TYPED OUT.
THE MOTION IS FOR TPD AND CONTRACT ADMIN TO PROVIDE AN
IN-PERSON UPDATED PROJECT STATUS REVIEW ON MARCH 5, 2026.
IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, COUNCIL SHOULD DIRECT SPECIFIC
QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE HOWARD AVENUE EVIDENCE AND CONTROL
CAPITAL PROJECT TO OUR BUDGET ANALYST TO WORK WITH MY OFFICE
AND STAFF TO INCORPORATE ALL DESIRED INFORMATION INTO THE
MARCH STAFF REPORT.
AFTER THAT A RESOLUTION CAN COME FORWARD.
4:31:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AND RESCINDING THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
DON'T NEED TO.
OKAY.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:31:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OKAY.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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