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THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:04:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
-- IS CALLED TO ORDER.
IF I MAY, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO BOARD MEMBER BILL CARLSON FOR
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:04:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
GREAT.
GOOD MORNING.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE REVEREND RACHEL HUGHES WHO
BRINGS A LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH A CAREER
DEDICATED TO BOTH PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP.
SHE IS A RETIRED LIEUTENANT WITH THE PINELLAS COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, A RETIRED MASTER SERGEANT IN THE U.S.
MILITARY -- SORRY, UNITED STATES ARMY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
AND A RETIRED UNITED METHODIST MINISTER.
SHE CONTINUES HER COMMITMENT TO SERVICE AS AN AMBASSADOR FOR
DOGS INC. ALONGSIDE HER SERVICE DOG BINER AND AS A VOLUNTEER
WITH THE PACE CENTER FOR GIRLS.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
LET US PRAY.
HOLY AND GRACIOUS GOD, WE GATHER THIS DAY WITH GRATITUDE FOR
THE PRIVILEGE OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND FOR THE TRUST PLACED IN
THOSE WHO LEAD.
WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, ITS RICH DIVERSITY,
ITS RESILIENCE, ITS HOPES, AND ITS CHALLENGES.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LEADERSHIP IS BOTH AN HONOR AND A
RESPONSIBILITY.
WE PAUSE NOW TO SEEK WISDOM BEYOND OURSELVES.
GRANT WISDOM TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL WHO SERVE THE
CITY.
MAY THEIR DECISIONS BE SHAPED NOT BY CONVENIENCE OR
PRESSURE, BUT BY TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND A DEEP CONCERN FOR THE
COMMON GOOD.
GIVE THEM THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
EVEN WHEN IT IS DIFFICULT AND THE HUMILITY TO LISTEN,
ESPECIALLY TO THE VOICES THAT ARE OFTEN UNHEARD.
WE ASK FOR HEARTS GUIDED BY COMPASSION, AND MINDS GROUNDED
IN DISCERNMENT, WHERE THERE IS DIVISION, SOW UNDERSTANDING.
WHERE THERE IS INJUSTICE, STIR A HOLY RESOLVE TO ACT.
WHERE THERE IS WARINESS, RENEW STRENGTH AND PURPOSE.
MAY GRACE TEMPER EVERY DEBATE, AND MAY RESPECT GOVERN EVERY
WORD SPOKEN IN THIS CHAMBER.

BLESS THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA, THOSE WHO FEEL SECURE AND THOSE
WHO STRUGGLE.
THOSE WITH INFLUENCE AND THOSE WHO FEEL OVERLOOKED.
MAY THIS BODY'S WORK TODAY CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY MARKED BY
FAIRNESS, SAFETY, OPPORTUNITY, AND HOPE FOR ALL.
WITH FAITH IN YOUR GUIDANCE AND TRUST IN YOUR PRESENCE AMONG
US, WE OFFER THIS PRAYER.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:07:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:29AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:07:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:07:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:34AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET'S FIRST GO OVER BEFORE WE GET TO OUR COMMENDATION
WALK-ON, LET'S GO OVER REVIEW OF THE AGENDA.
FOR STAFF REPORT -- STRIKE THAT.
FOR PRESENTATION NUMBER ONE, MR. SCAGLIONE WILL BE HERE.
LET'S SAY THIS, ANY COMMENTS ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 12 FOR ANY
CHANGES.

BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:07:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I HAVE A MOTION HERE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS 4, 5, 6, 7,
AND 9.
I WAS JUST HANDED THIS.
9:08:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
4, 5, 6, 7, 9.
LET ME GO OVER THOSE REALLY FAST.
9:08:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE ONE STATEMENT?
TAMPA UNION STATION, BECAUSE THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE
LAST MEETING, LET'S CONTINUE, BUT THE REQUEST IS FOR A
VERBAL PRESENTATION.
THE IDEA IS THIS HAS BEEN DELAYED FOR SIX YEARS.
THE PUBLIC WANTS UPDATES ON IT NEXT MONTH.
9:08:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ON THE TAMPA UNION STATION ITEM FOR A
LONG TIME.
I'M FINE WITH DOING THIS FOR THE INTEREST, AMONG OTHER
THINGS, OF TIME.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A VERY FULL AGENDA TODAY.
I'M AMENABLE TO THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
A SECOND, I BELIEVE, BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY COMMENTS FURTHER ON THESE?
ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
9:08:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THEN I MOTION TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 10
AFTER ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:09:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY OBJECTION OR COMMENTS?
STRIKE THAT.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
10 IS COMING AFTER 3.
ANYTHING FURTHER ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 12?
APPEARING NONE, WE GO FORWARD TO REQUIRED APPROVALS.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME MOTIONS OR WHATNOT ON THESE.
9:09:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 13
FOR DISCUSSION.
9:09:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:09:36AM >> SECOND.
9:09:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER -- AND MR. McCRAY, I'M SORRY,
SIR.
DO YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON THAT?
9:09:45AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, NO.
9:09:46AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING FURTHER ON REQUIRED APPROVALS?
9:09:53AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO PULL 18 AND 19 FOR DISCUSSION.
9:09:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO TO PULL THAT FOR
DISCUSSION.
ANY OBJECTION OR DISCUSSIONS?
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
WE'LL DO 18 AND 19.
9:10:13AM >> IS THERE A REASON ANYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO RECEIVE AND
FILE 12?
9:10:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO.
9:10:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 12.
9:10:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE WAS A WRITTEN MEMO BUT THIS IS A
SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION BY PEOPLE IN AND AROUND THE STAFF.
THERE'S SPECIFIC CRA TRAINING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED.
I TALKED TO DIRECTOR CEDRIC McCRAY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THEY WILL BE TRYING TO DO IT.
THE CRA TRAINING NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY
TRAINING BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROCESSES THAT THE CRA
HAS TO FOLLOW.
I'M OKAY ACCEPTING THIS.

BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC CRA TRAINING.
9:10:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT -- STRIKE THAT -- YEAH, GO
AHEAD AND ACCEPT ITEM 12.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING FURTHER ON REQUIRED APPROVALS?
9:11:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SENT A MEMO, BUT 14, 15, 16 I THINK ALL
THREE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT.
YOU'VE SEEN IN OUR PROCESS FOR CITY COUNCIL, THE CLERK HAS
ADDED A SECTION FOR POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT THESE
POSITIONS WEREN'T THERE.
THE FACT THAT WE GOT ONE APPLICANT MEANS WE DIDN'T
PARTICIPATE IN IT.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THESE TO NEXT
MONTH, BUT ALSO TO -- I'VE GOT ANOTHER MOTION I CAN MAKE IN
NEW BUSINESS REGARDING HOW WE BRING THESE BACK.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BRING THEM BACK UNLESS THEY HAVE TWO
OR MORE APPLICANTS, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN NEW BUSINESS I
COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:11:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?
9:11:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY MOTION IS TO MOVE THESE THREE TO NEXT
MONTH WITH THE HOPE THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE THEM MORE AND GET
MORE APPLICANTS.

9:11:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:11:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, NO, I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS BECAUSE WE
CAN'T EVEN GET POSITIONS FOR OUR REGULAR COMMISSIONS AND
COMMITTEES.
SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SAYING YOU WANT TO ADD IT -- IF
YOU WERE TO BIFURCATE THE MOTIONS, I WOULD SUPPORT THE ONE
SAYING I AGREE IT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE
HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING PEOPLE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN CRAs OR CACs THAT DON'T HAVE FULL
COMMITTEES.
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THOSE ARE ON TODAY.
SO I DISAGREE.
I THINK THAT YES, WE COULD ADVERTISE IT, AND THEY DO A GOOD
JOB OF ADVERTISING, IN MY OPINION, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM
WITH ADDING THEM TO THE AGENDA.
BUT I WOULD NOT SUPPORT HOLDING PEOPLE BACK UNLESS THERE'S
MORE THAN ONE APPLICANT.
9:12:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THE APPOINTMENTS,
ALTHOUGH CITY COUNCIL GETS APPOINTMENTS, UNTIL RECENTLY, WE
DIDN'T HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT INTO IT.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND WHERE THE INFORMATION WAS ON
THE WEBSITE AND PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM.
THE CRA IS JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT HAVE HAD PROBLEMS
IN THE PAST, BUT CITY COUNCIL OR CRA BOARD ARE FULLY ENGAGED

AND THE PUBLIC IS NOTIFIED IN THE AGENDAS, IT SHOULD BE
EASIER GOING FORWARD.
MY MOTION IS SIMPLY TO MOVE THESE TO NEXT MONTH.
IF THERE'S STILL ONLY ONE APPLICANT, I GUESS WE COULD GO
AHEAD WITH IT.
I'LL MAKE THE OTHER MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS.
9:13:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HEAR YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT IT IS DIFFICULT.
THESE THINGS ARE ADVERTISED.
CACs, OF COURSE, THEMSELVES TRY TO SOLICIT, AND THEY ARE
VERY ACTIVE.
THESE ARE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS.
THEY KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE VACANCIES.
IT IS DIFFICULT.
A LOT OF THESE COMMITTEES REQUIRE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S TIME.
IT IS A TIME COMMITMENT.
IT'S HARD AND THEY ARE NOT PAID.
IT'S DIFFICULT, SO WHEN YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS, SNAP THEM UP.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT FOR.
BOTTOM LINE, IS THEY ARE VERY HARD TO RECRUIT FOR.
IN THE FUTURE, IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY OF
SOLICITING, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD STOP NOW.
I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS AND DO BETTER IN
THE FUTURE.
IT IS AN EVER-LEARNING PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL EVER BE EASY.
9:14:08AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY FURTHER COMMENT?
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, MY VIEW IS ON THIS, THERE ARE SOME THAT
IF WE HAVE ONE PERSON FOR -- IT'S A FACTS IN CIRCUMSTANCES
ISSUE.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL RULE FOR THIS.
I'M PREPARED TO VOTE ON THESE.
THERE ARE SOME THAT PERHAPS WE WANT MORE APPLICANTS FOR AND
SO FORTH.
BUT, YEAH.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:14:36AM >>THE CLERK:
YOUNG?
9:14:42AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
9:14:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
9:14:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
9:14:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
9:14:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:14:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
9:14:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
9:14:53AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA, MIRANDA, HURTAK,
AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
9:14:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE AGENDA?

9:15:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:15:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
9:15:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 11,
2025, CRA MEETING.
9:15:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE, FOLKS?
VERY GOOD.
BY THE WAY, LET'S SEE HOW THE AGENDA GOES.
WE APPEAR TO HAVE A PACKED AGENDA THIS EVENING.
WE WILL ENFORCE, IF WE MAY, SULING, TIME LIMITS OF FIVE
MINUTES A PERSON, SECOND ROUND THREE MINUTES TO BE ENFORCED
HERE.
I DO NEED TO LEAVE AT 12:45 SOMETHING TODAY.
JUST NORMAL, I GUESS BUT WHATEVER.
YES, MA'AM.
9:15:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD I SUGGEST AND WOULD ANYBODY BE OPPOSED

TO STARTING WITH THREE MINUTES AND A TWO MINUTE SECOND?
I THINK THAT IS A BETTER -- TO GO FASTER TODAY.
9:16:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE YOU GO.
9:16:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHEN OUR FIRST ROUND OF SPEAKING WE ONLY GET
THREE MINUTES AND THE SECOND ROUND TWO.
9:16:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF SOMEBODY IS ON A ROLL, OF COURSE, I'LL GIVE
YOU MORE TIME.
9:16:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A HARD STOP AT
12:45?
9:16:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A WONDERFUL MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
CLENDENIN, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
IF NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL COMMENDATION PRESENTATION BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
GO FORWARD, SIR.
9:16:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD AND MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
WE HAVE NAACP.
WE HAVE BUFFALO SOLDIERS.
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
BUT WHY IS TODAY SPECIAL?

IS IT BECAUSE IT IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH?
YES.
IS IT BECAUSE IT'S CRA AND CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT THAT WE'RE
ALL SO EXCITED FOR?
YES.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT IS FEBRUARY 12, 2026.
BUT ON FEBRUARY 12, 1909, THE NAACP WAS FOUNDED.
SO WE'RE LUCKY THAT THE CALENDAR ALIGNED THAT THE FOUNDING
DAY ALIGNS WITH THE THURSDAY SO WE CAN PRESENT THIS
COMMENDATION.
WITH ME, I HAVE PRESIDENT YVETTE LEWIS AND MEMBERS OF THE
LOCAL NAACP AND BEYOND BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SPECIAL
GUESTS FROM OUT OF THE COUNTY.
NO?
9:17:39AM >> THE CHAIRMAN.
WE HAD A CRISIS COME UP.
9:17:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY
RECOGNIZES FEBRUARY 12, 2026, AS A DAY TO HONOR THE FOUNDING
OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED
PEOPLE.
ESTABLISHED ON THIS DAY IN 1909, THE NAACP HAS DEDICATED
OVER A CENTURY TO ADVOCATING CIVIL RIGHTS, PROMOTING
EQUALITY AND ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR ALL COMMUNITIES.
THE ORGANIZATION REPRESENTS AND SERVES PEOPLES OF ALL COLORS
WORKING TO ENSURE THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL CAN LIVE FREE FROM

DISCRIMINATION AND INJUSTICE.
WE COMMEND THE NAACP FOR ITS ENDURING COMMITMENT TO FIGHTING
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, EMPOWERING INDIVIDUALS, AND FOSTERING
POSITIVE CHANGE IN OUR SOCIETY.
THE CITY OF TAMPA CELEBRATES THIS IMPORTANT MILESTONE AND
EXPRESSES GRATITUDE FOR THE ORGANIZATION'S CONTINUED
LEADERSHIP IN PROMOTING JUSTICE, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION
THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND HONOR TO PRESENT THIS
COMMENDATION ON THIS 12th DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2026.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS YVETTE LEWIS.
I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BRANCH.
THE LARGEST, THE OLDEST, THE BADDEST, AND THE BOLDEST, THE
MOST LOVED, THE MOST HATED, THE MOST FEARED AND REVERED.
THE MOST CUSSED AND THE MOST DISCUSSED CIVIL RIGHTS
ORGANIZATION THERE IS IN AMERICA.
GOOD MORNING.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
HERE, I HAVE OUR SECOND VICE.
ONE THING I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, AND I SAY TO EVERYONE, DON'T
CONFUSE OUR PASSION THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR
ANGER.
DON'T CONFUSE OUR ADVOCACY FOR ANGER.

OUR PEOPLE VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD.
WE GET MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF CALLS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH US.
WE ASK THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU
ALL AND RESPECT IS ALWAYS DUE.
SO I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS.
WE'RE HERE AND WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
BUT THAT'S A SAD THING TO SAY BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONLY
ORGANIZATION THAT FIGHT TO PUT OURSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL WHEN WE STAND BEFORE YOU AND
ADVOCATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE NAACP, PLEASE STAND.
THIS IS WHAT POWER LOOKS LIKE.
THIS IS US.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PRESIDENT LEWIS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM, BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
IF I MAY, BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, ARE THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS
HERE FOR THIS ITEM?
9:20:59AM >> YES.
9:21:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, CAN WE INVITE THESE FOLKS UP, IF YOU
ALL WANT TO SAY VERY BRIEFLY, YOUR CHAIRPERSON, WHY YOU ARE
HERE TODAY FOR THIS ITEM?
WE'LL LET COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK AFTER THESE FOLKS ARE DONE.

WE'LL GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
STATE YOUR NAME IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:21:35AM >> YES.
MY NAME IS DONALD D. ROCK WILLIAMS.
PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA CHAPTER.
THIS IS THE SECRETARY.
THIS IS MY VICE PRESIDENT.
THIS IS TONY MOORE.
THIS IS D.D. AUSTIN.
WE ARE THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS MOTORCYCLE CLUB TAMPA CHAPTER
HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN.
WE ARE HERE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY
THAT WE CAN.
AND WE JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE.
9:22:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE A FRIEND IN COMMON, A REAL-LIFE BUFFALO
SOLDIER, 103-YEAR-OLD ROY CALDWOOD, DECORATED WORLD WAR II
VETERAN WHO CAN STILL DO PUSH-UPS.
THE MAN IS OUT OF CONTROL.
BRONZE STAR, DECORATED IN ITALY.
HE'S SPECIAL.
9:22:26AM >> THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TO BE HERE.

9:22:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S GIVE THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS A ROUND OF
APPLAUSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IF BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO SPEAK, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON,
WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.
9:22:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL SAY QUICKLY, THANK YOU TO THE NAACP FOR
ALL THEIR ADVOCACY AND INFORMATION.
DIFFERENT GROUPS USE DIFFERENT TACTICS, BUT THE NAACP AND
PRESIDENT LEWIS IN PARTICULAR USED AN OLD-FASHIONED TACTIC,
WHICH IS TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL PEOPLE.
I THINK SHE GETS DONE MORE WITH PHONE CALLS THAN MOST PEOPLE
GET DONE WITH A LOT OF OTHER TOOLS.
THANK YOU TO THEM FOR ALL THEIR WORK.
9:23:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:23:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST QUICKLY, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
HAVING ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT FOLKS THAT TRADITIONALLY
IN OUR SOCIETY HAVE NOT HAD VOICES IS IMPORTANT.
I LOVE WHAT PRESIDENT LEWIS SAID ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION
WORKING TO PUT THEMSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS.
HOPEFULLY ONE DAY, PROBABLY NOT IN MY LIFETIME, BUT
HOPEFULLY MY GRANDDAUGHTER'S LIFETIME, WE WON'T NEED THESE
TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE WE'LL TRULY HAVE AN INCLUSIVE
AND DIVERSE SOCIETY WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME
OPPORTUNITIES.

9:23:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
9:23:41AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WELL, I AM -- OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW -- BUT JUST
CONGRATULATIONS.
IT IS TRULY AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE AMAZING
WORK THAT THE NAACP DOES, NOT JUST IN OUR CITY, BUT AROUND
THE WORLD.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE FIRSTHAND.
I'M JUST SO APPRECIATIVE THAT WE HAVE THE ORGANIZATIONS TO
BE THERE TO UPLIFT US AND TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE AND
EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUALITY AND INJUSTICE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER.
9:24:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:24:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
ANOTHER CONGRATULATIONS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ADVOCATES PRETTY MUCH IN ANY PART OF
OUR CITY.
SO I THANK THE NAACP FOR ALWAYS BEING AN ADVOCATE AND
ENCOURAGE MORE FOLKS TO JOIN AND TO CREATE THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
MORE ADVOCATES THE BETTER.
THAT'S HOW OUR CITY GETS BETTER.
9:24:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:24:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I CAN SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NAACP.
ALSO THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS ARE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING
PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA.
WHEN THERE WAS A NEW CLUB CALLED THE WEST TAMPA KING AND
QUEEN ASSOCIATION, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT REALLY HELPED
GIVE THEM A RIDE IN THE PARADE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO GET A RIDE ON.
THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS PICKED THEM UP AND TREATED THEM LIKE
THEY WERE ONE OF THEIR OWN.
I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA FOR
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
9:25:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANYTHING
FURTHER, I WOULD IMAGINE.
THANK YOU.
I KNOW THEY ARE NOT HERE, BUT, OBVIOUSLY, THANK YOU, BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
FOUNDER'S DAY VERY IMPORTANT.
TAMPA, FLORIDA, HARRIET MOORE, TAMPA, ROBERT SAUNDERS AND
NAACP IS NEEDED MORE TODAY THAN ANY TIME IN MODERN HISTORY
IN OUR COUNTRY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
NEXT WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ATTORNEY SHEPARD, TOP OF THE MORNING, SIR.
IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT.
9:25:49AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
FANTASTIC.
I WILL GET RIGHT INTO IT.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS
PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS SUCH TIME FRAME IS MODIFIED
BY A VOTE OF THE CRA BOARD.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA'S RULES MAY BE RULED
OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY -- OF
THE DAY'S CRA MEETING.
FINALLY, THE CRA BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD
REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL RULES AS REVISED ON JUNE 6, 2024, ARE NOW
IN EFFECT FOR THE CRA BOARD UNLESS OTHERWISE EXEMPTED OR
OVERRIDDEN BY THE CRA BOARD BYLAWS.
9:27:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE'LL BEGIN.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND
SO THAT WE KNOW.
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
I WAS INFORMED BY MY AIDE THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH THE TAMPA
BAY HISTORY CENTER A WONDERFUL PERSON, FRED HEARNS, WHO IS
HERE TO TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
MR. HEARNS, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND BEGIN, WE CAN
TAKE THIS AS A WALK-ON PRESENTATION, WHAT HAVE YOU.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED?
9:27:31AM >> THREE MINUTES.
9:27:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR
PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE STAND, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO, AND
LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL SO WE CAN HAVE FOLKS COME IN ORDER.
MR. HEARNS, GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:27:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
IT SEEMS THAT A LOT OF SPECIAL THINGS HAPPEN ON FEBRUARY 12.
WE KNOW THAT THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S
BIRTHDAY.

OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS, ABRAHAM LINCOLN HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
100 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR, 1926, DR. CARTER G. WOODSON DECIDED
THERE SHOULD BE A SPECIAL TIME EACH YEAR WHEN WE CELEBRATE
THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND ASPIRATIONS OF BLACK PEOPLE.
THUS WAS LAUNCHED NEGRO HISTORY WEEK IN 1926.
THAT'S WHAT WE CELEBRATED WHEN I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
1976, PRESIDENT GERALD FORD DECLARED THE ENTIRE MONTH OF
FEBRUARY SHOULD BE CELEBRATED FOR THIS PURPOSE.
SO THEN WE HAD BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
SO THIS IS 50 YEARS OF CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
AT THE TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER, THIS IS OUR FIFTH ANNUAL
BLACK HISTORY MONTH RECEPTION.
I DID CIRCULATE THE FLYERS LAST WEEK.
I WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE LAST WEEK.
AGAIN THIS MORNING, HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED YOURS.
WE ARE CELEBRATING THIS YEAR THE FLORIDA SENTINEL BULLETIN.
THIS IS THEIR 80th CELEBRATION OF BEING IN BUSINESS.
ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 27, BEGINNING, DOORS OPEN AT 5 P.M. AT
TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM, 1213 CENTRAL AVENUE, RIGHT
ACROSS FROM PERRY HARVEY PARK.
WE'RE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WITH THIS
RECEPTION.
WE HAVE THE DON'T DELAY AFRICAN DANCERS AND DRUMMERS COMING
FROM CLEARWATER TO GIVE US A TASTE OF WHAT WEST AFRICAN

CELEBRATIONS WERE ALL ABOUT.
YOU'RE ALL INVITED.
TICKETS ARE GOING PRETTY FAST.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, PLEASE GO TO OUR WEBSITE,
tampabayhistorycenter.org.
WE ALSO WANT TO SALUTE OUR MAJOR SPONSOR, THE TAMPA HOUSING
AUTHORITY.
NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HAPPENING AT THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM
WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND
AMAZING COMMUNITY PARTNER.
THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO MENTION IS THROUGHOUT THE MONTH,
WE'RE ALL OVER THIS COMMUNITY GIVING TALKS, VISITING
SCHOOLS, SHARING THE MESSAGE THAT BLACK HISTORY IS AMERICAN
HISTORY.
WE KNOW THAT YOU AGREE WITH THAT.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL PRESENTATION COMING UP AT
MacFARLANE PARK, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SOME OF YOU I THINK ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN THAT
PROJECT.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU THERE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE YOU ON
FEBRUARY 27 AT TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
9:30:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.

WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:30:51AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE
HILL.
I WANT TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND I AM BLACK
HISTORY.
I INTEGRATED EDISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN 1969.
STAYING IN COLLEGE HILL PROJECT.
I HAD WENT TO BLACK SCHOOLS ALL MY LIFE.
COLLEGE HILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR FIRST AND SECOND GRADE.
MY TEACHER WAS MY ROLE MODEL.
SHE KNEW MY GRANDMOTHER, MY MOTHER.
ALL SHE HAD TO DO IS HOLLER ACROSS THE FENCE, VALERIE ACTING
UP, AND I WOULD GET BACK TO LEARNING.
WHEN I GOT INTEGRATED INTO EDISON, IT WAS VERY, VERY
TRAUMATIZING.
EVERYTHING I KNEW FROM A LITTLE GIRL GROWING UP AND LOOKING
AT MY TEACHER AND HAD THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND SHE WAS
MY ROLE MODEL RIGHT UP UNDER GOD.
WHEN I WENT TO EDISON, IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
IT WAS A CULTURE SHOCK AND IT TOOK A MINUTE FOR ME TO GET
USED TO IT.

I DID GET USED TO IT AND KEPT CONTINUING LEARNING.
I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE TALK ABOUT BLACK HISTORY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT FROM 1968, LET'S TALK ABOUT 1700, BUT SOME
OF US ARE LIVING BLACK HISTORY RIGHT NOW.
AND THE BALL IS MOVING, BUT IT'S MOVING VERY SLOW.
BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY LIKE ALAN
SAID, THE NAACP AND OTHER GROUPS WOULD NOT BE NEEDED.
IT WOULD BE EQUITY FOR ALL AND DIVERSITY WILL BE SOMETHING
THAT'S WELCOMED AND WE LEARN FROM EACH OTHER AND EMBRACE
EACH OTHER.
NOW TO THE AGENDA.
NUMBER 10, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO KEEP THE SPENDING CAP ON
THE CRA BECAUSE I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN,
THE CRA IS BEING USED AS A SLUSH FUND.
THE VERY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 30, 40,
50 YEARS OF, WE GET VERY LITTLE OF THAT MONEY, IF ANY.
AND THE MONEY THAT WE DO GET, IT COMES WITH STIPULATIONS.
FACT.
A NEW OWNER THAT MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY GET CRA
FUNDING AND JUST FOR FIVE YEARS.
UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL MY LIFE.
I GET A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR MY HOUSE.
AND GUESS WHAT, IT'S FOR 30 YEARS.
WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

AND NUMBER 15 ON THE AGENDA, DIANN ZEIGLER NEED TO GET OFF
OF THE CRA BOARD.
SHE'S VERY RACIST.
SHE DID A RACIST RANT ON Facebook.
I ZOOMED IT TO EVERYBODY.
I E-MAIL IT TO ALL OF YOU ALL.
SHE NEED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CRA BOARD.
SHE DO NOT -- SHE DO NOT -- SHE'S NOT A PART OF THE BATTLE
EMBRACING DIVERSITY AND RESPECTING PEOPLE.
SHE SAID BLACK PEOPLE THEIR HOUSES LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ON
LIFE SUPPORT, WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO GIVE US SOME MONEY.
9:33:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT, PLEASE.
9:34:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS RONALD GIBSON.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE INTEREST WITH YOU ALL TO OPEN UP A
NONPROFIT PROGRAM WHERE I AM HELPING THE YOUTH, THE YOUNG
ADULTS, AS WELL AS THE HOMELESS BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SEEING
THE DISTRICT FIVE LOOKING THE WAY IT'S LOOKING.
I FEEL WITH THE ENERGY, KINETIC ENERGY THAT I HAVE TO
IMPLEMENT CERTAIN PROGRAMS, I HAVE MY FIANC E HERE, SHE
WANTS TO HAVE WOMEN GROUPS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WOMEN
OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY -- IN BAD SHAPE.

I FEEL THAT IT'S NEEDED.
THE HELP IS NEEDED.
I'M WILLING TO GIVE MY, WHATEVER I HAVE TO GIVE IN ORDER TO
SEE THE LIFE CHANGES.
AND A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE STARVING
MENTALLY AS WELL AS PHYSICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ONE
THERE TO GIVE THEM AN EARFUL OF POSITIVITY AND HOPE.
I'M 67 THIS YEAR.
I MAY LOOK VERY YOUNG, BUT, YEAH, I BE 67.
I KNOW WITH THE ENERGY THAT I HAVE AND THE POSITIVE
UPLIFTMENTS THAT I HAVE, I CAN BRING A LOT OF STRENGTH TO A
LOT OF THE YOUNG ONES OUT HERE.
ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG ONES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF WOMEN OUT HERE THAT ARE JUST LOOKING
VERY, VERY BAD.
AND I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT.
I WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I JUST NEED THE HELP OF FINDING A BUILDING THAT I CAN BRING
ALL THESE PEOPLE IN HERE AND SHOW THEM I CARE.
I HAVE A FEW PEOPLE ON MY BOARD THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE ABLE
TO INHERIT THEIR INTELLIGENCE AS FAR AS OCCUPATIONS ARE
CONCERNED.
MR. HUNTLEY AND MR. GUZMAN.
AND WE ARE HERE, AND I'M HERE TO DEVELOP THIS STRENGTH TO
BUILD UP THE COMMUNITY.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT WITH EVERYONE
THAT IS SITTING OUT HERE HOMELESS, ON DRUGS, BECAUSE THERE'S
BEAUTIFUL TALENT OUT THERE, AND I SEE IT.
ALL THEY NEED IS THAT GUIDANCE, THAT HELP, AND I -- I WOULD
LIKE TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE THE ENERGY TO FULFILL EVERYONE'S HOPES
AND PROMISES.
THEY JUST NEED THAT HAND THAT'S GOING TO UPLIFT THEM.
WITH THE HELP OF SOMEONE, GIVING ME SOME TYPE OF BUILDING
THAT I CAN FUND THIS OUT, BELIEVE ME, YOU WILL NOT BE
ASHAMED OF MY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN
DO IT.
I DID IT IN NEW YORK.
I'M FROM NEW YORK.
I HAVE TRAINERS.
I'M A BOXING TRAINER AND A PERSONAL TRAINER.
IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT I CAN HELP WITH THAT AS FAR AS
DEVELOPING THEIR BODY, I'M A DOCTOR.
I'M A DOCTOR IN THE GYM, AND I HAVE HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE
AND NOW IT'S TIME THAT I NEED TO CLEAN THIS COMMUNITY UP,
ESPECIALLY DISTRICT 5.
9:37:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:37:10AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M GLAD YOU ALL LISTENED TO ME.

9:37:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT PLEASE.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:37:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS KEN STOLTENBERG.
1208 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM CM 25-13762 WHICH IS A
COUNCIL-INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT.
I'LL READ FROM A MEMO AND THEN PUT IT ON THE SCREEN FROM
MRS. FEELEY.
THIS IS WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HENDERSON ASKED STAFF TO
CONSIDER.
CONSIDER ADOPTING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENT AND
APPROVAL PROCESS AS PRESENTLY PRACTICED IN THE CENTRAL
BUSINESS DISTRICT AND HAVE THAT PROCESS APPLY TO THE CHANNEL
DISTRICT AS WELL AS CONSIDER ADOPTING THE HEIGHT AND DENSITY
LIMITS PRESENTLY APPLICABLE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
THAT MOTION WAS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HERE IS THE MEMO.
IT'S HIGHLIGHTED THERE FOR YOU.
MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT KAREN IS GOING TO E-MAIL THIS TO
EVERYBODY SO YOU'LL HAVE IT.
THIS IS THE TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH IS PRESENTLY SCHEDULED TO

GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE 9th OF MARCH.
IT DOES TAKE OUT THE 175 FEET HEIGHT LIMIT, AND IT DOES MAKE
THE F.A.R. IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT 10.5 WHICH IT PRESENTLY
IS ALREADY BECAUSE YOU APPROVED A PRIVATELY SPONSORED TEXT
AMENDMENT BY ME LAST YEAR.
WHAT IT DOES NOT DO, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
HAVE THE SAME DENSITY AND AS IMPORTANTLY, THE APPROVAL
PROCESS AS THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ASKED STAFF TO DO.
IN READING THIS, IT DOESN'T DO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF IS DISCUSSING TAKING THOSE TWO
THINGS AND PUTTING THEM IN THE GENERAL CODE REWRITE, WHICH
IS GOING ON NOW.
THE CODE HASN'T BEEN REWRITTEN SINCE THE MID '80s.
THAT'S 40 YEARS.
LET ME JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WAS.
40 YEARS AGO, I WAS PLAYING OFFENSIVE GUARD AND DEFENSIVE
TACKLE FOR THE DUPONT TIGERS.
THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S BEEN.
THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN INPUT FROM THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS
BUT THEY ALSO GOT TO GET BUY-IN FROM THEM.
THAT COULD TAKE YEARS, AND MAYBE IT SHOULD.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU ASK STAFF TO ADD THOSE
TWO ITEMS BACK INTO THIS TEXT AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY SO IT
CAN BE TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON MARCH 9.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:39:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, PLEASE.
AGAIN, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU'RE ABLE TO
DO SO, PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL SO WE CAN KNOW
TIMEWISE AND WHATNOT.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:39:48AM >> MY NAME IS MARTY GREENE.
SEPTEMBER 2025, I STOOD RIGHT BEFORE, MY FIRST TIME STANDING
IN CITY COUNCIL.
I SAID SOMETHING THAT STAYED WITH ME.
I SHARED MY CONCERNS ABOUT MY LACK OF SUPPORT WITHIN THE
DEPARTMENT.
I ALSO SAID OUT LOUD IN THIS CHAMBER THAT I WAS AFRAID.
I STATED THAT SPEAKING UP, I BELIEVE I WOULD BE TARGETED,
RETALIATED AGAINST AND POSSIBLY LOSE MY JOB.
I DID NOT TAKE THOSE WORDS LIGHTLY.
I SAID THEM BECAUSE I TRULY FEARED THAT DOING THE RIGHT
THING WOULD COME AT A COST.
PRIOR TO VOICING MY CONCERN, I HAD ZERO DISCIPLINE
THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE TENURE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
MY RECORD WAS CLEAN.
I WORK AND I LOVE TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY AND I SERVED IT WITH
INTEGRITY.

AFTER I CAME IN GOOD FAITH, STATEMENTS WERE REVIEWED BY
HUMAN RESOURCES -- MY STATEMENTS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT AND
USED AS GROUNDS OF DISCIPLINE.
ON MY FIRST DISCIPLINARY ACTION STEMMING FROM CONCERNS I
RAISED AT THE PUBLIC, I WAS TERMINATED.
WITHIN FIVE MONTHS OF STANDING HERE, I EXPRESSED MY FEARS
ABOUT RETALIATION AND MY FEARS CAME TO REALITY.
I CAME FORWARD NOT TO HARM ANYONE BUT TO BRING AWARENESS TO
THE ISSUES I BELIEVE ARE NEEDED TO ATTEND.
I PROVIDED SUPPORT -- I DID NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT -- THE CITY
SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WITHOUT
FEAR OF WORDS BEING USED AGAINST THEM.
THERE MUST BE A CLEAR PROTECTION, A CLEAR PROTECTION RAISING
CONCERN WITH GOOD FAITH NOT TREATED AS MISCONDUCT.
I LOVE SERVING THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I SPOKE BECAUSE I CARE.
NO EMPLOYEE SHOULD LOSE THEIR LIVELIHOOD TRYING TO BRING
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PEOPLE ELECTED TO
LEAD.
OCTOBER 2016, ORDINANCE BRUNG.
IT WAS 2016-155.
WHISTLE-BLOWER.
I HAD WHISTLE-BLOWER, AND I HAVE BEEN RETALIATED AGAINST.
RIGHT NOW, SOMETHING NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED.
MS. HENDERSON, BEFORE SHE DIED SECTION 215 SHE SAID THAT

CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE.
RIGHT NOW, I'M LETTING YOU ALL KNOW THAT IT NEED TO BE
INVESTIGATED.
9:42:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
9:42:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT.
EAST TAMPA RESIDENT.
A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, WE HAVE THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES
THAT ARE NOW MANDATED BY STATE STATUTE.
I WANT TO JUST ASSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PORTION,
WHICH IS TO UPLOAD THE MEETINGS TO YouTube AND UPLOAD THE
AGENDAS IS INSULTING AS FAR AS THE DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
AS YOU MENTIONED, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IT'S HARD TO GET
FOLKS TO APPLY TO THESE POSITIONS.
A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERFORMANCE MEASURE, WHICH IS DOING
YOUR BASIC JOB UPLOADING YouTube IS NOT COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
IN MY MEMO, I HAVE GIVEN SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION ON WHAT ACTUALLY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SHOULD
BE.
ALSO IN THAT PERFORMANCE MEASURE, IT HAD UNDER QUALITY OF
LIFE FOR EAST TAMPA, AGAIN, WE HAVE PUTTING THE FENCE AROUND

THE CEMETERY AND PUTTING A MEMORIAL AT THE CEMETERY.
CURRENTLY, EAST TAMPA HAS A $25,600 AMI INCOME.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT HELPING THEM TO PUT A FENCE AROUND A
FUNERAL -- I MEAN A CEMETERY.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, HOUSING,
CREATING JOBS, MAKING SURE THAT LIFE IS BETTER.
I DO NOT THINK THAT IS AN ADEQUATE PERFORMANCE MEASURE FOR
EAST TAMPA, PUTTING THE FENCE AROUND THE CEMETERY.
THE NEXT ITEM, AS I WILL BE BEATING THAT DEAD HORSE, IS THE
SERVICE AGREEMENT.
THE SAYING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING AND EXPECT
DIFFERENT RESULTS IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
I AM REALLY ASKING YOU TO PUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT ON THE
WORKSHOP IN MARCH SO WE CAN ADEQUATELY BE ABLE TO DISCUSS
THIS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS IF YOU ARE HIRING
YOUR LAWN MAINTENANCE PERSON, THAT LAWN MAINTENANCE PERSON
HAS GIVEN YOU THEIR CONTRACT, TOLD YOU WHEN THEY ARE GOING
TO MOW THE LAWN, IF THEY ARE GOING TO MOW THE LAWN, IF THEY
MIGHT RESPOND TO YOU, BECAUSE WE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS
AGENDA THAT HAS TAKEN TWO TO THREE TO FOUR YEARS TO BE ABLE
TO MOVE FORWARD.
THIS SERVICE AGREEMENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY AUTHORITY TO
MAKE ANYONE DO ANY WORK.
WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S SUGGESTION FOR EDITS, THERE'S NOT

EVEN BEEN A COMPARISON PROVIDED TO YOU ON WHY THAT IS BETTER
OR WHY THAT'S NOT.
THAT'S NOT EVEN BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY.
I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER, PUT THAT ON THE WORKSHOP IN
MARCH.
ALSO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE SAME, THAT YOU ALLOW
EAST TAMPA TO GET AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT OR FOR PROFIT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
WE ONLY HAVE EIGHT YEARS, AND WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO MAKE
SURE THAT IT TAKES FOUR TO FIVE YEARS TO DO RFP.
FOUR TO FIVE YEARS TO GET PROJECTS DONE.
IF YOU CAN JUST LET EAST TAMPA GO TO GET SOMEONE WHO
UNDERSTANDS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
9:45:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
9:45:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MITA MARTINEZ.
EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ME AS MIMI.
I LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
CURRENT EAST TAMPA CAC MEMBER.
I DID SEND OUT AN E-MAIL TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT NUMBER 13
SERVICES AGREEMENT.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO CONTINUE THAT SERVICE
AGREEMENT TO HAVE MORE OUTREACH, ESPECIALLY TO ALL THE

CACs.
AND JUST TO KIND OF GET FEEDBACK TO SEE IF CHANGE IN THE
SERVICE AGREEMENT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO OR NOT NEED TO
DO.
AGENDA ITEM 6, CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL
DESIGN, THAT SPEAKS TO QUALITY OF LIFE.
THERE ARE PARKS IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA THAT NEED TO HAVE
THAT PLAN PUT IN PLACE.
I'LL ADVOCATE FOR BORRELL PARK.
THOSE PEOPLE HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD, BORRELL PARK HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF BLIGHT AND
SLUM AND LOTS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
THERE'S BEEN DEATHS THERE, STABBINGS, PROSTITUTION, DRUG
DEALING.
IT IS NOT A SAFE, CLEAN SPACE FOR EVERYBODY TO ENJOY AS IT
SHOULD BE.
THIS CRIME PREVENTION THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN WOULD
HELP BORRELL PARK AND REIMAGINE IT TO BE A CLEAN PLACE.
OUR NEBRASKA AVENUE CORRIDOR IS IN TREMENDOUS NEED OF
REDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT PARK IS GOING TO BRING PEOPLE IN,
AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE A CATALYST REDEVELOPMENT FOR US TO
BRING IN MORE DENSITY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR WHICH HAS BEEN
RECOGNIZED AS A TRANSIT READY CORRIDOR IN OUR FUTURE LAND
USE UPDATE WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION.
ALSO, JUST A BRIEF HISTORY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW, YBOR

HEIGHTS AND VM YBOR HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR BORRELL PARK TO
BE REDEVELOPED IN A COMPASSIONATE WAY.
IT IS NOT ABOUT DEMONIZING THE HOMELESS.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMEONE SLEEPING IN THE PARK
AND SOMEONE DEALING DRUGS IN THE PARK.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PUSHING FOR IS FOR CRIME PREVENTION AND
FOR ELIMINATING THOSE DRUG DEALERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
PREYING ON WOMEN TO PROSTITUTE THEIR BODIES TO GET MONEY FOR
DRUGS.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING ALONG THAT AREA.
THE FUTURE LAND USE UPDATE FOR THE TRANSIT READY CORRIDORS,
THERE WERE EIGHT THAT CITY COUNCIL HAD IDENTIFIED BACK IN
THE AUGUST 2025 MEETING.
OUT OF EIGHT OF THOSE CORRIDORS, HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
NEBRASKA AVENUE WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN
OUR EAST TAMPA CRP.
THE NEW ONE IN 2025 THAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING READY TO ADOPT
VERY SOON.
IN OUR EAST TAMPA CRP, THE CORRIDORS THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ARE 15th
STREET, 22nd STREET, 29th STREET, 34th STREET, 40th
STREET.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU RECONSIDER PUTTING THOSE
BACK INTO THERE.

THEN ALSO FOR THE TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE,
THERE'S ONE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING ON MARCH 2.
I WOULD HIGHLY ADVOCATE THAT YOU HAVE THEM PRESENT TO THE
CACs, BECAUSE THOSE CRAs, WE NEED THOSE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODES TO HELP US REDEVELOP.
THE FINAL ONE IS NUMBER 21 FOR THE FACADE GRANT.
I'M ALL ABOUT SUPPORTING BUSINESSES IN OUR AREA.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU FIRSTHAND THAT THAT BUSINESS HAS NOT
PARTNERED WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO I'M SECOND
GUESSING IF THEY DESERVE THE MONEY.
THANK YOU.
9:48:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT.
9:48:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KELLA McCASKILL.
I ALMOST DIDN'T MAKE IT.
THE LAST ONE THAT SHE MENTIONED, THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND THE
CHANGES IT MADE, A LOT OF TIMES YOU ALL PUT THOSE
REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE, PARTICULARLY WHEN I SEE PEOPLE
RECEIVING ASSISTANCE WHERE THERE IS OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB,
YOU PUT IT --
THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS RECEIVED THE MONEY, THEY DID
NOTHING WITH IT.
THEN THEY WANTED TO SELL.
THEN COULDN'T SELL.

COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
SOLD IT TO THEMSELVES, $4 MILLION AND NOW THEY WANT TO
TRANSFER THE DEBT TO THE NEW OWNER.
IF YOU PUT IT IN PLACE.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT WRAPAROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE RESOURCES TO DO THE WRAPAROUND SO
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR THE GRANT.
SOLD IT TO YOURSELF FOR $4 MILLION AND THEN TRANSFER THE
DEBT TO THE NEW PERSON TAKING OCCUPANCY.
WE GAVE YOU THE MONEY.
YOU DON'T GET TO TRANSFER IT OVER TO THE NEW OWNER BECAUSE
YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY IT BACK.
YOU ALL SHOULD SECOND GUESS JUST LIKE SHE SAID.
ALMOST DIDN'T MAKE IT TODAY, I'M SO TIRED OF COMING AND
TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
YOU ALL SEE.
YOU ARE NOT DUMB.
YOU CAN READ.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
IF YOU CAN'T, THAT MEANS YOU HAVEN'T TALKED TO ENOUGH PEOPLE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PAYING TAXES IN THAT DISTRICT.
THE REASON IT IS DISCOURAGING, BEFORE I COULD GET UP HERE, I
WATCHED THAT SONG AND DANCE WHEN THIS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID,
HEY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT.
SOME OF YOU SAID THEY DO A GOOD JOB.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STAFF THAT WORKS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
THEY WRITE THEIR CHECK.
TALKING ABOUT A STAFF THAT THOUGHT THAT COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT, SAY YouTube UPLOADED AND THAT'S SUFFICIENT, IS
THAT REALLY ACCEPTABLE TO YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS?
YOU ARE PAYING THEM A LOT OF MONEY.
AND ALL THEY COULD PUT FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS PUT IT
ON YouTube?
ChatGPT WILL GIVE YOU A BETTER DEFINITION TO DO SOMETHING
FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAN THAT.
THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
THAT'S PISS-POOR PERFORMANCE IN MY OPINION.
TAXPAYERS DESERVE A LOT BETTER, PARTICULARLY IN THE POOREST
AREA OF THE CITY.
THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN SOMEBODY SAYING PUT ON YouTube.
WE KNOW YouTube IS A WAY, BUT WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO?
THE MONEY YOU ARE PAYING STAFF, THEY ARE NOT ADEQUATE.
THAT IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR ME.
NUMBER 10, BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
DIANN ZEIGLER, KUGLER, WHATEVER HER NAME IS, THE HALF-BAKED
APOLOGY LETTER WAS ADMISSION THAT SHE DID SOME WRONG.
SHE'S SITTING ON A BOARD REPRESENTING A COMMUNITY THAT IS
STILL -- REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE MOVING THERE --
STILL 70% OR MORE REPRESENTED BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.
DISRESPECT CANNOT BE TOLERATED BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING

DECISIONS FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO BE ON THAT BOARD UNTIL YOU CAN SHOW
US THAT YOU CAN APPRECIATE AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ON BEHALF
OF ALL PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND THEN HER HOUSE FILTHY.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, NUMBER 15 -- OH, 13, THANK YOU FOR PULLING
THAT.
GLAD YOU DID THAT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
VERY IMPORTANT.
NOT ALL THE TIME THAT ALL COMMUNITIES COME TOGETHER AND SAY
THE SAME THING.
WE'RE NOT -- VM YBOR, YBOR, BUT WE'RE ALL AGREEING YOU NEED
TO PULL IT AND HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:52:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT, PLEASE.
9:52:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
CONNIE BURTON.
TIRED OF COMING MYSELF, BUT IT IS NECESSARY TIRED UNTIL ALL
OF THE WORK IS DONE.
I WANT TO SUPPORT 100% THE COMMENTS, SISTER ALISON HEWITT.
THE PERFORMANCE OF EAST TAMPA CANNOT MERELY BE THESE NICE

GLOSSY PICTURES PUT IN PERFORMANCE MAGAZINES AS THAT IS THE
END OF OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU CANNOT EVEN HANG YOUR HAT ON FAIR OAKS AS SAYING THAT
WOULD BE THE CROWN JEWEL BECAUSE SO MANY YEARS FOR US TO GET
THERE.
SO MANY LAYERS OF WORK THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN EAST TAMPA
THAT IF PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN.
ONCE UPON A TIME, WE HAD THE ABILITY TO EAST TAMPA TO
DETERMINE WHO WOULD SIT ON OUR BOARDS, BUT THAT WAS TAKEN
AWAY FROM US.
THAT DEMOCRATIC PROCESS WAS STRIPPED AWAY FROM US AND THEN
YOU GUYS BECAME THE RULER AS TO WHO WOULD BE APPOINTED.
I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THIS ABOUT A LITTLE HISTORY THAT I
THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TODAY.
14-YEAR-OLD CHILD WAS ABDUCTED, MURDERED, LYNCHED.
YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE A 21-YEAR-OLD WOMAN LIED ON HIM.
SHE LIED AND SAID THAT HE HAD DONE AND SAID THINGS TO HER
THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL AND SHE WAS BELIEVED.
SHE WAS 21.
SHE KNEW BETTER.
BUT SHE LIVED IN MISSISSIPPI.
SHE LIVED ON A TIME WHEN BLACK VOICES AND BLACK FOLKS
PRESENTLY LIKE WE ARE HAVING TODAY IS KIND OF LIKE MOVED
ABOUT.

IT MATTERS NOT.
AT 14 WAS MURDERED AND THAT WOMAN WAS ABLE TO LIVE 74
ADDITIONAL YEARS DIED WHEN SHE WAS 88 YEARS OLD.
WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT TO ME?
BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THE BOARD IN EAST
TAMPA THAT HAVE THE SAME DISREGARD AS THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE.
SHE MIGHT NOT GO TO THAT FULL EXTENT, BUT WE COULD HEAR IT
TRICKLING DOWN THAT THOSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT.
THIS COMMUNITY NEED ME BECAUSE I KNOW BETTER FOR THEM.
IT WON'T BE TOLERATED.
YOU CAN APPROVE HER TODAY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU AND GUARANTEE
YOU AT EACH EAST TAMPA MEETING, THAT THE TONE IS NOT A
RESPECT TOWARD AFRICAN PEOPLE.
IT IS GOING TO BE SHOUTED DOWN.
IT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED MOVING FORWARD.
TO HAVE A MORE PEACEFUL EXISTENCE, I WOULD SAY IT PROBABLY
WOULD BE BETTER FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF
COUNCILMAN CARLSON SO WE CAN FIND MORE PEOPLE, ENCOURAGE
MORE PEOPLE TO COME ON THESE BOARDS, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE POWER
AWAY FROM PEOPLE AND POWER NOW IS IN YOUR HANDS, THEN YOU
HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.
THANK YOU.
9:55:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
NEXT, PLEASE.
9:55:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, CRA ATTORNEY.

I AM FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M ALSO A SITTING BOARD
MEMBER OF THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH TO ALL OF YOU.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 6, 7, AND 13.
NUMBER 6, NOT ONLY SHOULD THE CRA STAFF WORK WITH DETECTIVE
WASHINGTON AND HIS SUCCESSFUL CPTED PROGRAM, I WOULD LIKE TO
ENCOURAGE ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, CIVIC
ORGANIZATIONS, AND COMMUNITY SAFETY WATCH GROUPS TO DO THE
SAME.
WHY?
I FOUND THAT CPTED PROGRAM TO BE HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL.
IT WAS TRIED AND TRUE IN JACKSON HEIGHTS AND IT WORKED ALSO
IN LIVE OAK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
IT WORKED REALLY, REALLY WELL IN LIVE OAK SQUARE.
AGENDA ITEM 7, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VETERANS, I HIGHLY
SUPPORT THAT.
MY HUSBAND, MY DECEASED HUSBAND WAS A VETERAN, 20 YEARS
UNITED STATES ARMY, 16 YEARS JAMES A. HALEY HOSPITAL SERVING
VETERANS.
PLEASE, I HIGHLY SUPPORT THAT AGENDA ITEM.
THEY NEED HOMES.
SOME OF THEM HAVE NO HOMES AT ALL.
THEY SERVED THEIR COUNTRY, FOUGHT, BLED, PROBABLY

IMPRISONED, TORTURED FOR THE COUNTRY.
THEY NEED ADEQUATE HOUSING, ALL OF THEM.
THEN WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.
I ALSO SUPPORT MS. HEWITT, MS. BURTON, AND MS. McCASKILL.
I AM REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD NOT PASS THE PROPOSED SERVICE
AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME.
INSTEAD, I AM REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE PLACED ON THE
MARCH CRA WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR A DISCUSSION TO ALLOW ADEQUATE
TIME FOR BOARD MEMBERS, DIALOGUE, PUBLIC INPUT,
CONSIDERATION OF ADMINISTRATION STRUCTURE.
STATUTORY AUTHORITY AND LONG-TERM OPERATIONAL IMPACTS.
SO PLEASE, REMOVE THAT AGENDA ITEM AND PLACE IT IN THE
WORKSHOP AND ALLOW COMMUNITY INPUT.
MUCH MORE COMMUNITY INPUT.
THANK YOU.
HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
9:58:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, PLEASE.
9:58:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS EDWARD FELDER.
I MOVED TO TAMPA IN 1997.
I WAS RECRUITED BY A SMALL BANK WHICH MANY OF YOU MAY NOT
KNOW AND MAY KNOW, CALLED BARNETT BANK.
AT THAT TIME, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FUND HOTELS, SHOPPING

CENTERS, APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
I LOVE TAMPA, AND I LOVE REAL ESTATE.
AND IN 2000, I MET A YOUNG MAN WHO SAID HE ALSO LOVED REAL
ESTATE.
THIS YOUNG MAN GREW UP IN SUITCASE CITY, GRADUATED FROM
TAMPA HIGH SCHOOL.
TODAY, THIS YOUNG MAN IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL.
HE OWNS MULTIPLE TROPHY PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN ST. PETE, IN
TAMPA.
VERY QUIET GUY.
OWNS HOTELS, SHOPPING CENTERS, APARTMENT COMPLEX.
REMEMBER, I JUST SAID, GREW UP IN SUITCASE CITY.
WHAT PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY, THE LEAST OF US.
TODAY, HE HAS ACQUIRED MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
IN PARTICULAR, EAST TAMPA, TWO ACRES HERE.
THREE ACRES HERE.
FOUR ACRES.
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, HE'S FUNDED THOUSANDS OF APARTMENT
COMPLEXES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, IN PARTICULAR CALIFORNIA.
TODAY HIS PASSION IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE.
THERE'S ONE SITE RIGHT OFF OF NEBRASKA AND CLOSE TO MLK,
RECENTLY ACQUIRED FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CASH.
HE CAN PROBABLY BUILD 200 PLUS UNITS.
HIS PASSION IS, I WANT TO BUILD JUST 120 UNITS.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN LIVE WITH
DIGNITY AND GREAT PRODUCT.
OUR ONLY CHALLENGE IS, WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THERE'S NO
MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
TO ME, INTRODUCE MY BUSINESS PARTNER FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND
SAY, HEY, LET'S DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHAT DO WE DO NOW WHEN SAID WE HAVE THE PROPERTIES NOW,
PAYING MILLIONS, LOOKING AT OTHER SITES THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
WHEN SAID NEED AFFORDABLE.
MY QUESTION IS, CAN THERE BE FUNDING OR AT LEAST IN EAST
TAMPA, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE MY GOOD FRIEND WHO WANTS TO
BUILD QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO INITIATE BOND FINANCING TO CAPITALIZE,
NOT JUST FOR MY PARTNER, BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE WHO SAY WE
HAVE OPPORTUNITIES NOW, AND WE MAY BE WILLING TO PARTNER
WITH SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE TO BRING EQUITY INTO THE DEALS.
WE CAN'T SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND WAIT FOR YEARS
AND YEARS AND YEARS.
CRA MAY BE GONE.
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE CAN SOMEHOW HAVE TAX DOLLARS AND
WE CAN BUILD HUNDREDS OF UNITS, THOUSANDS OF UNITS?
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING SO WE NO LONGER
HAVE TO GO TO CALIFORNIA AND OTHER PLACES.
WE CAN DO IT RIGHT HERE IN EAST TAMPA.
THAT WE JUST HAVE THE COURAGE AND THE VISION TO SAY, OKAY,

LET'S LOOK AT RIGHT NOW VERSUS DOWN THE LINE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TAMPA.
I'M EXCITED WHAT THE CITY HAS TO OFFER.
10:01:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:01:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
I HOPE ALL IS WELL.
THIS MORNING, AS WELL AS EVERY MONTH, THERE ARE COMMENTS
THAT ARE REOCCURRING THAT HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN THAT IT SEEMS AS IF THE COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC
COMMENT --
10:01:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SORRY.
WE ALL KNOW YOUR NAME.
10:01:36AM >> JEFFREY JOHNSON.
CHAIR OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
LET ME BACK UP.
COMMENTS ARE REOCCURRING EVERY MONTH.
IT SEEMS A GREAT MAJORITY OF COMMENTS THAT COME FROM PUBLIC
COMMENT IS CENTERED AROUND EAST TAMPA.
THE LACK OF MOVEMENT, THE LACK OF ACTION, THE LACK OF
RESOURCES.
I DO ASK THAT THE BOARD SHIFT TRAJECTORY.
INSTEAD OF RESIDENTS COMING HERE, THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF

FORUM, TOWN HALL IN WHICH YOU COME TO EAST TAMPA AND ALLOW
THE RESIDENTS TO SHARE ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS.
SOME OF THEM ARE NOT ABLE TO COME HERE ON THURSDAY MORNINGS.
BUT IF YOU LISTEN, EVERY MONTH THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS
DOMINATING AROUND THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME STRATEGY.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS PROACTIVE, THAT PERSONS
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT THEIR
DISPLEASURE IS AND WHAT THEY FEEL WILL BE BEST FOR THE PLACE
IN WHICH THEY LIVE, THEY WORK, AND THEY DESIRE TO PLAY.
SO THAT WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SHARE ABOUT WHAT
YOUR THOUGHT AND WHAT YOUR VISION IS FOR OUR CITY.
THE SECOND THING IS, AS WE'RE IN THE CRA SETTING, WE
UNDERSTAND THAT CHAPTER 163 IS THE GOVERNING MODEL THAT
FOLLOWS US, THAT WE ARE TO REMOVE BLIGHT AND SLUM, AND THAT
IS NOT ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL PLATFORM, BUT ALSO FOR BUSINESS
DWELLINGS AS WELL.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DWELLINGS IN EAST TAMPA -- I CAN ONLY
SPEAK FOR THAT -- THAT SHOULD BE CLOSED.
THERE ARE SEVERAL STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES THAT SHOULD NOT
HAVE OCCUPANCY TO REMAIN OPEN.
IN PARTICULAR, LAST MONTH, I WENT TO BUD'S STORE ON 22nd
AND HILLSBOROUGH.
THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR YEARS SELLING BAD -- EXPOSED FOOD TO
THE COMMUNITY.

WHILE I WAS THERE, A RAT RAN ACROSS MY FOOT.
I WONDER THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THROUGH CODE
INSPECTION, HOW CAN THIS STORE REMAIN OPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR?
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO'S BEEN THE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN
PERFORMING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT INSPECTION FOR THIS PLACE,
NOT ONLY THAT, MANY PLACES IN EAST TAMPA, ARE THEY
OVERLOOKING THEM AS THEY WOULD DO TO OTHER STORES IN OTHER
COMMUNITIES?
THERE HAS TO BE SOME ADVOCACY THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PUSHING
JUST FOR STRONG HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT OUR BUSINESSES ARE SOLID IN EAST TAMPA AS WELL.
SOME OF THOSE PLACES, BECAUSE WE ARE IN A FOOD DESERT, ARE
THE ONLY PLACES RESIDENTS CAN GO AND FIND FOOD.
10:04:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
PASTOR WILLIAMS, ARE YOU NEXT, SIR?
BEFORE PASTOR WILLIAMS AND COME ON UP, SIR, PLEASE, IF YOU
ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ARE NOT STANDING, PLEASE
RAISE YOUR HAND.
IT WOULD APPEAR MR. DAWSON WOULD BE THE LAST SPEAKER,
FOLLOWED BY MR. RANDOLPH HERE VIRTUALLY.
STATE YOUR NAME.
GO AHEAD.
10:04:43AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SO MUCH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL.

EVERYTHING --
10:04:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, TIMER, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME,
SIR.
10:04:54AM >> PASTOR WILLIAMS.
10:04:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU.
10:04:57AM >> I BELIEVE AND I TRUST YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK, AND YOU ALL ACT LIKE YOU GOT --
LIKE YOU HEAR NOTHING THAT WES.
WE WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND.
WE'LL KEEP COMING UNTIL YOU ALL DO THE RIGHT THING.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ALL PEOPLE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, EAST TAMPA AND
OTHER PLACES, JACKSON HEIGHTS AND BELMONT HEIGHTS,
ESPECIALLY.
YOU ALL DUG THE WATER PONDS AROUND BELMONT HEIGHTS AND
JACKSON HEIGHTS.
AND NOW WE HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
YOU'RE BUILDING HOUSES ALL AROUND US.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THEM?
GIVING THEM TO WHITE FOLKS.
IT'S A DAMN SHAME.
BUT WE GOT TO BE RESPECTED AS HUMAN BEINGS ALSO.

REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU LIKE US OR NOT, I'M HAPPY TO KNOW
CEDRIC IS HERE BECAUSE HE CAME TO MY HOUSE AND TOOK A TOUR.
TAPE DOWN FROM THE HOUSE, HE SAID, NO, DON'T DO THAT.
DON'T EVEN GET UP ON THE STEPLADDER, AND I WAS GETTING READY
TO CRAWL UP AND TAKE IT DOWN SO COULD SEE THE WATER FALLING
IN MY KITCHEN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
BUT NOBODY SEEM TO CARE.
MS. B COME IN THERE, OH, WE'LL DO SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL IN
FEBRUARY -- JANUARY.
JANUARY DONE CAME AND GONE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD NOTHING FROM THEM.
NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AND LIVE A GOOD AND
PEACEFUL LIFE, BUT YOU ALL DON'T WANT US TO.
YOU WANT US TO COMPLAIN THE REST OF OUR LIVES.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO COMPLAIN TO YOU, KEEP COMPLAINING AND
YOU DON'T DO NOTHING.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT US.
WE WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WE ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING AND KEEP
DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I HEARD THE YOUNG LADY SPEAK, BORN ABOUT THE SAME YEAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT, NICE LOOKING BLACK MAN.
THE THING ABOUT IT, HE DIDN'T DO NOTHING WRONG.
HAD ALL THE WHITE KU KLUX KLAN COME AND SNATCH HIM OUT OF
HIS HUNKER HOUSE AND KILLED, MURDERED.

YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HEARD THE YOUNG MAN SPEAKING ABOUT
NEW YORK.
NEW YORK IS ALREADY, BUT NEW YORK FULL OF THE DEVIL, TOO,
JUST LIKE YOU ALL ARE.
WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE PEOPLE AND WE DESERVE RESPECT.
THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
GLORY BE TO GOD.
10:07:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, PASTOR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
NEXT, PLEASE.
10:08:04AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA BLACK HISTORY.
BEING THAT IT IS FEBRUARY 14 AND VALENTINE'S DAY IS THIS
WEEKEND.
I WANT TO BEGIN BRIEFLY BY EXPLAINING A STORY SOME OF YOU
MAY HAVE HEARD BUT PERHAPS WITHOUT FULL CONTEXT AND AS MANY
OF US KNOW, CONTEXT MATTERS IN THE SOUTH.
WILLIAM ASHLEY WAS AN EARLY TAMPA SETTLER, ONE OF TAMPA --
SORRY, ONE OF TAMPA'S MAIN DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS ASHLEY DRIVE
IS NAMED AFTER HIM.
HE IS BURIED AT OAKLAWN CEMETERY ALONGSIDE ENSLAVED BLACK
WOMAN NANCY ASHLEY.
OVER TIME, THEIR SHARED GRAVE SITE OFTEN DESCRIBED AS A LIVE
STORY BETWEEN A WHITE MAN AND FORMERLY ENSLAVED BLACK WOMAN.

THAT IS THE VERSION MANY PEOPLE KNOW AND THREE OR FOUR
VERSIONS I HEARD, THAT'S WHY I DUG INTO THIS.
HISTORICAL RECORDS ACTUALLY SHOW IS MORE COMPLICATED.
THIS IS A MUSTER ROLL FOR WILLIAM ASHLEY.
HE WAS ACTUALLY MUSTERED INTO THE 4th INFANTRY IN
NEW ORLEANS.
WE TALK ABOUT FORT PIKE BEING OVER THERE WHERE THE BLACK
SEMINOLES AND SEMINOLES WERE DEPORTED TO.
HE IS DESCRIBED AS HAVING SANDY HAIR, BLUE EYES, LIGHT
COMPLEXION.
AGAIN, HE'S IN THE 4TH INFANTRY, AND THE 4TH INFANTRY'S
BUSINESS IN FLORIDA WAS TO COME AND DEPORT THE BLACK
SEMINOLES AND SEMINOLES FROM FLORIDA.
BUT HE LANDS HERE IN TAMPA AND BECOMES A CLERK.
IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE.
10:09:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APOLOGIZE.
STOP THE CLOCK.
IS SOMEBODY'S MUSIC PLAYING?
OKAY.
DISREGARD.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:09:38AM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:09:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA 20 SECONDS.
10:09:47AM >> MUSTER ROLL.
SINCE THIS RECORD SHOW WILLIAM ENSLAVED NANCY FOR DECADES,

APPEARS IN 1850 AND 1860 SLAVE SCHEDULE AS HIS PROPERTY.
I HAVE NOT FOUND RECORDS EXPLAINING HOW NANCY CAME INTO HIS
POSSESSION.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW NANCYS LISTED ON THE NEGRO
INDIAN DEPORTATION LIST.
IT WAS A POPULAR NAME AMONGST BLACK WOMEN DURING THAT TIME.
NOTORIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD -- NOTORIOUS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
HISTORIAN ROTHMAN DESCRIBED CROSS RELATIONSHIPS WERE NOT
RARE, NOT ROMANTIC AND NOT EVIDENCE OF EQUALITY.
THEY WERE SHAPED BY LAW, POWER AND SURVIVAL, NOT CONSENT.
WE DO NOT HERE NANCY'S VOICE IN THE LETTERS OR ANY TYPE OF
TESTIMONY, BUT WE DO HAVE NANCY ASHLEY'S WILL, WHICH IS NOT
SHARED AS OFTEN.
IN HER WILL SHE LEAVES HER THINGS BEHIND TO SOLOMON STANTON
AND NIECE OR NIECES.
WE DO HAVE HER WILL.
HER WILL IS THE ONLY MOMENT WHERE NANCY APPEARS IN THE
ARCHIVES SPEAKING FOR HERSELF.
SHE DESERVES TO BE RECOGNIZED NOT FOR BEING TIED TO HER
ENSLAVER BUT BECAUSE SHE REPRESENTS SOMETHING MORE
IMPORTANT.
NANCY ASHLEY SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF, IF NOT THE
EARLIEST PRESERVED VOICE OF BLACK WOMEN IN TAMPA, THE
EARLIEST KNOWN BLACK WOMAN TO ASSERT AGENCY IN A LEGAL
DOCUMENT, AND ONE OF THE EARLIEST EXAMPLES OF RESISTANCE

AGAINST OPPRESSION.
IN HER WILL, SHE LEAVES HER THINGS TO SOLOMON STANTON, WHO
WAS ONE OF THE TRUSTEES OF BEULAH BAPTIST CHURCH.
SHE ALSO LEAVES IT TO HER NIECES, WHICH WERE ALSO YOUNG
GIRLS OF COLOR.
I HAVE MORE TO SAY.
I NEED TO END AND SAY WE NEED TO FIX THIS STORY.
IT IS NOT A STORY OF ROMANCE.
IT IS A STORY OF A WOMAN THAT IS TRYING TO SURVIVE.
10:11:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
NEXT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. RANDOLPH AS OUR FINAL SPEAKER.
10:11:53AM >> SURGRET DOSS.
SALUTE TO BUFFALO SOLDIERS.
MY FATHER WAS A BUFFALO SOLDIER.
I'M A VET AS WELL.
I JUST WANT MY HOUSES BACK.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ABOUT A BLACK THING OR WHITE THING.
IT IS ABOUT BEING A DUMB ASS THING.
PEOPLE OF ALL SHADES AND COLORS THAT CELEBRATE TAKING
EVERYTHING FROM YOU ALL WHEN THEY'VE GOT SO MUCH FROM YOU
ALREADY AND WE'RE CELEBRATING THESE PEOPLE.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT THESE -- HELP THEM TAKE A LOT OF
PROPERTIES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD NO WHEREWITHAL OR ECONOMIC

ABILITY TO FIGHT BACK.
UNFORTUNATELY, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE GAVE THE
TOTALITY OF THEIR LIFE SAVINGS FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
I'M SAYING THE LEADERSHIP IN THIS STATE, THE COUNTY, AND
THIS CITY WAS WELL AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO FOUGHT BACK.
AN ADVANTAGE OF BEING WOKE IS YOU KNOW HOW TO PAY ATTENTION.
WHEN YOU ARE WOKE, YOU LOOK FOR THE SNAKES IN THE GRASS.
WHEN YOU ARE WOKE, YOU LOOK FOR THOSE THINGS WHICH MAY NOT
NECESSARILY BE APPARENT AND YOU SCRUTINIZE EVERYTHING.
MAYBE YOUR BOY DESANTIS HAS VISIONS -- NOBODY LIVE IN A
STATE WHERE WOKE COMES TO DIE.
NOT BEING WOKE AT ONE TIME COST A LOT OF BLACK FOLKS THEIR
LIVES.
END UP BEING STRANGE HANGING FRUIT.
THAT'S A SHOUT-OUT TO BILLIE HOLIDAY.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE OTHER HBCUs THAT STOOD UP NOT ONLY TO
THIS ADMINISTRATION IN THE STATE BUT THE FEDERAL
ADMINISTRATION.
GREAT PEOPLE CAME FROM THE GREAT INSTITUTIONS.
I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS A DOCTOR WHO CAME FROM ONE.
OTHER FOLKS GOT COLLEGE DEGREES, ALL KINDS OF
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
ALL THIS BS ABOUT DEI AND AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BEING SOME WAY
FOR US TO GET SOME UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, WE HAVE GOD'S GIFTS

THAT YOU ALL AIN'T NEVER HAVE.
TALK ABOUT CREATIVITY, SAY SOMETHING ELSE, GIVE ME A LITTLE
BIT WITH THIS ONE, NERS DIDN'T START CIVILIZATION, WE DID.
YOU CAN GO BACK AS FAR AS MILLIONS OF YEARS.
DON'T TAKE GREG'S WORDS.
GOOGLE IT.
WHO WERE THE FIRST ONES?
IT AIN'T NO SECRET.
I'LL LEAVE WITH THIS, WELL, IT IS VALENTINE'S DAY, AND MAYBE
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK UP WHAT THE REAL HISTORY OF
VALENTINE'S DAY IS ABOUT.
DR. FRANCIS WILSON SAID THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T GET THEIR
FIXATIONS OFF OF CERTAIN PARTS OF US.
READ THE ISIS PAPERS.
ALWAYS IN PARTING, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF
HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE GREAT EDUCATORS,
BLACK, WHITE, CONSERVATIVES, LIBERALS, OTHERWISE, UNIVERSITY
OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:14:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
ANYONE ELSE HERE IN THE ROOM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
WE GO NEXT TO MR. RANDOLPH.
FUR READY, SIR, GO AHEAD.
APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY VIRTUAL SPEAKER.
10:14:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
MAJOR FEDERAL FUNDING CUTS COMING IN 2027, THE SAFETY-NET
THAT HAS SUPPORTED VULNERABLE FOR DECADES IS ERODED.
17% OF RESIDENTS COULD BE DISPLACED IN WEST TAMPA WITHIN THE
NEXT THREE YEARS IF NOTHING IS DONE.
WORST-CASE SCENARIO COULD PUSH THAT ABOVE 20%.
THIS IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL; IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY.
WE ARE ENGAGING EVERY TOOL WE HAVE -- THE CRA, THE
OPPORTUNITY ZONE, AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT INTO
ONE UNIFIED STRATEGY TO HELP FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES.
FROM CITIES NATIONWIDE THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY PUSHED BACK
GENTRIFICATION AND PROTECT LONG-TERM RESIDENTS.
THE CURRENT CRA -- IS ANTI-POOR PEOPLE.
HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT?
THE CRA SHOULD EMBED SAFEGUARDS AT EVERY STAGE, INCLUDING
RISK MAPPING TO IDENTIFY DISPLACEMENT.
A VULNERABILITY SCORING SYSTEM THAT HIGHLIGHTS STABILIZATION
-- IMPACT ASSESSMENTS TIED TO MEASURABLE OUTCOMES LIKE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRESERVE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE NUMBER
OF RESIDENTS RETAINED AFTER DEVELOPMENT.
THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE MUST BE POSITIONED AS A NECESSARY TOOL
BY COMBINING INVESTMENT WITH INCLUSIONARY ZONING SUPPORTING
COMMUNITY CONTROL TRUST AND REQUIRING DISPLACEMENT
ASSESSMENT BEFORE APPROVING.

ROME YARD COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT SHOWS HOW DEVELOPMENT
CAN EASILY BE DIRECTED TOWARDS RESIDENTS.
WEST TAMPA IS BUILDING A NEW COMMUNITY DRIVEN ECONOMY, JOB
CREATION CENTER.
SUPPORTING 30 PLUS NEW BUSINESSES AND PREPARING PEOPLE WITH
80 PLUS POWER PATHWAY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
TEACHING REAL WEALTH-BUILDING SKILLS.
THANK YOU.
10:17:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THAT ENDS PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE GO FORWARD NOW WITH THE AGENDA TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
ANY COMMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR CRA BOARD MEMBERS?
IT WOULD APPEAR NOT.
GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:17:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER COURTNEY ORR.
I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING MR. ANDY SCAGLIONE WHO
SERVES AS OUR CHANNEL DISTRICT CAC CHAIR.
HE WILL BE PROVIDING UPDATES OF WHAT IS OCCURRING IN THE
CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
10:18:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE MR. SCAGLIONE WHO ON
THE TSA, I READ ABOUT YOU A LOT AND DOING A GREAT JOB.
GOD BLESS YOU.
IF I MAY ASK, ROUGHLY HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED, SIR?
10:18:15AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
I'LL MAKE THIS SHORT.

I'LL MAKE IT WITHIN THREE MINUTES.
10:18:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY, FIVE MINUTES JUST IN CASE.
10:18:22AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
ALL RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING.
WE'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH THE GOOD, GOOD NEWS TO BEGIN
WITH.
THE CLOSING --
10:18:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, I APOLOGIZE.
COULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME.
10:18:33AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
AGAIN, REAL GOOD NEWS.
GOT NEWS FROM REAL ESTATE YESTERDAY THAT THE CLOSING OF THE
A AND D AUTO IS SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 26, THIS MONTH.
THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
THIS, AS I SAID, CREATE A WINDOW OFF OF TWIGGS THAT YOU
DON'T EVEN KNOW THERE IS A PARK BEHIND THERE.
IT'S GOING TO EXPAND THE CURRENT PARK.
THIS IS REALLY, REALLY GOING TO BE FANTASTIC AND VERY
EXCITED.
AS YOU KNOW, MY PASSION IS NOT TO HAVE MORE BUILDINGS.
IT'S TO HAVE MORE GREEN AREA IN CHANNELSIDE.
THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE NEED FOR THE KIDS, FOR THE
ANIMALS, WE NEED MORE GREEN.
ON THE WASHINGTON STREET PARK RENOVATIONS, WE DEVELOPED A
DESIGN-BUILD ON A SCOPE OF SERVICES WORKING WITH THE

ADMINISTRATION, AND WE'LL BE ISSUING A COMBINED WITH THE
DOWNTOWN.
THIS WAY WE KIND OF GET THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE REGARDING THE
-- TO SECURE A LARGER FIRM BY ADVERTISING THE TWO TOGETHER.
810 CHANNELSIDE, VERY EXCITING.
WE JUST HAD A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
GREAT ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
GOOD COMMENTS.
AND WE HAD COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN THERE, AND WE HAD
AN ENGAGEMENT SESSION OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
AND PEOPLE POSTED NOTES ON THE BOARDS.
VERY, VERY ENGAGED.
IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PRODUCT COMING OUT OF THAT.
CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS, KIMMINS IS WORKING TO
CLOSE OUT ON THE TWIGGS STREET INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE TWO REMAINING PIECES OF PHASE 1e on 12th Street AND
PHASE D2 ON WHITING STREET.
THE EAST WHITING STREET CONSTRUCTION IS ON TRACK.
CRA STAFF IS MONITORING ITS PROGRESS.
OUR NEXT BIG ONE IS NORTH 12th STREET CONSTRUCTION WILL
FOLLOW THE COMPLETION OF THE EAST WHITING THAT IS
ANTICIPATED.
ON CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND McKAY STREET INFRASTRUCTURE
STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, KIMMINS WILL BE
MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT IS PROCEEDING.
FLORIDA AQUARIUM, THEY HAVE DONE A REVISION TO THE ORIGINAL
SCOPE OF WORK.
WE REVIEWED IT AND APPROVED IT.
VERY HAPPY.
GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
THEY SHOW UP TO EVERY CAC MEETING.
THEY GIVE US A REPORT.
WE COULDN'T ASK -- THEY ARE OUR CONVENTION CENTER, OUR
PERFORMING ARTS OF CHANNELSIDE, THE AQUARIUM.
AND JUST DOING SOME GREAT THINGS.
IN CLOSING, WE HAD OUR WAY FINDING REPORT, AND THAT WILL BE
FORTHCOMING BY API.
IN CLOSING, I'M JUST PROUD TO BE PART OF THE CAC OF
CHANNELSIDE.
I'M A BIT INVOLVED IN CHANNELSIDE FOR 43 YEARS.
WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY ENGAGED CAC GROUP OF MEMBERS THAT
YOU ALL HAVE APPOINTED.
YOU ALL DID A GOOD JOB ON THAT.
THEY SHOW UP I'D SAY EVERY MEETING.
ATTENDANCE IS IN THE 95%.
VERY PROFESSIONAL.
VERY SHARP.
SO THANK YOU FOR APPOINTING GOOD, GOOD PEOPLE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PRODUCTIVE FUN EVERY MONTH.

WE HAPPEN TO ENJOY A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH MS. ORR AND
CEDRIC AND THEY UNDERSTAND OUR PHILOSOPHY.
WE DON'T WANT TO MEET TO MEET.
WE ARE MEETING TO HAVE EXECUTION ON OUR GOALS.
WE HIT OUR GOALS.
TO END IT, I'D LIKE TO SAY I WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT WHAT KEN
STOLTENBERG HAD TO SAY.
KEN STOLTENBERG IS KIND OF A UNION CORN DEVELOPER.
THEY GO IN, MAKE THEIR MONEY AND NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN, THE
OUT-OF-STATE GUYS.
HE NOT ONLY LIVES IN THE DISTRICT SINCE HE DID THE FIRST
PROJECT, DONE SOME BEAUTIFUL PROJECTS IN CHANNELSIDE, HAS
OPENED UP BUSINESSES IN THE CHANNELSIDE, AND I WOULD REQUEST
THAT THIS ISSUE REGARDING THAT HE MENTIONED, THE DEADLINE ON
MARCH 9, YOU ALL VOTED FOR IT.
IT WAS UNANIMOUS, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN -- AND NOTHING HAS
BEEN EXECUTED REGARDING THIS DEADLINE OF WHAT MR.
STOLTENBERG TALKED ABOUT.
IF YOU ALL COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT
BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT.
THE CHANNELSIDE DESERVES IT.
THANK GOD HE'S ON TOP OF THIS.
HE COMES TO EVERY CAC MEETING.
AGAIN, HE'S NOT THE TYPICAL DEVELOPER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:23:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:23:39AM >> NO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. STOLTENBERG.
MARCH 9 DEADLINE, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO PASS.
YOU ALL VOTED FOR THIS.
IT JUST HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED.
10:23:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I SEE LIGHTS ON BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA -- SORRY, BOARD
MEMBER HURTAK.
GO AHEAD.
10:23:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THANK YOU.
I REMEMBER ONE OF MY VERY FIRST VOTES WAS FOR THE PARCEL ON
WASHINGTON FOR THE PARK.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW.
LIKE, WHAT TOOK SO LONG?
I'M THRILLED IT'S GOING FORWARD, BUT JUST LIKE WHAT WAS THE
HOLDUP?
10:24:22AM >> ON WASHINGTON, WE HAD A PREVIOUS CRA DIRECTOR, AND HE HAD
THIS VISION THAT WE WOULD HAVE A MULTISTORY PARK.
IT WAS GOING TO COST A FORTUNE.
IT WASN'T FEASIBLE.
IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
I ALWAYS LIKE GREAT IDEAS, AND WE WENT DOWN KIND OF THAT
RABBIT HOLE AND PULLED IT BACK.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH IS GOING TO BE REALLY,

REALLY NICE.
BUT I'M GLAD WE EXPLORED IT.
YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU EXPLORE THINGS, BUT THAT KIND OF
GOT US OFF TRACK.
IT WAS A POSITIVE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS POSITIVE, THAT AT LEAST WE
EXPLORED THAT.
10:25:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS CURIOUS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY -- BUT IT'S ALSO
INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW THINGS CAN GET DERAILED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT.
10:25:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYONE ELSE?
10:25:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT ON THIS TOPIC BUT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN
THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I SPOKE TO MIMI OFF THE RECORD OUTSIDE, THE TRANSIT READY
CORRIDORS, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT
THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS GOING TO BE TRANSMITTED TO
TALLAHASSEE.
IT WILL COME BACK TO US.
WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSERT ADDITIONAL CORRIDORS IN
THAT PLAN.
SO IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK, FEBRUARY -- IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK,
THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOUR
MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF, AND IT WILL BE

INCORPORATED IN.
WE WERE LIMITED BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, LATE AT NIGHT.
WANTED TO CLAIM THAT NOMENCLATURE TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINED
INTACT BEFORE TRANSMITTED.
BUT WE HAVE LOTS OF TIME TO PUT MORE CORRIDORS IN.
10:26:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE, BOARD MEMBERS?
YES, MA'AM.
GO AHEAD.
10:26:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'LL SAY THANK YOU, MR. SCAGLIONE, FOR THE
GREAT REPORT.
PART OF DISTRICT 5, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THINGS ARE GOING WELL.
THANK YOU.
10:26:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYTHING ELSE?
YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:26:22AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO THE POINT THAT MR. SCAGLIONE AND MR.
STOLTENBERG MADE, WHEN -- MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THIS BUT FOR
ANYBODY WATCHING, WHEN CHANNEL DISTRICT WAS CREATED, LINDA
SAUL-SENA, MR. SCAGLIONE AND OTHERS ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD
STEP UP AT A LOWER ELEVATION AND THEN GO UP.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR SEVERAL YEARS IS TO ALLOW
MAXIMUM DENSITY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOUR-STORY BUILDINGS
AND THEN THERE ARE LIKE 20-STORY BUILDINGS THAT WERE MADE AS
EXCEPTIONS.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ALLOW THE HODGEPODGE NOW.

IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT, ESPECIALLY WITH WATER STREET
EXPANDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF MERIDIAN.
I HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIX THAT.
10:27:03AM >> I HAVE A COPY OF THE LETTER WHERE YOU APPROVED IT 7-0.
IT HASN'T BEEN EXECUTED.
LET ME SAY THAT.
I THINK IT'S BEEN SLOW WALKED.
THIS IS A COPY OF THE LETTER.
ANYWAY, JUST NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
WE HAVE A MARCH 9 DEADLINE ON THIS.
IT IS A SHORT FUSE.
I JUST DON'T WANT ANY MORE TIME TO GO BY.
10:27:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:27:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE A COPY OF THAT TO THE
CLERK?
10:27:42AM >>ANDY SCAGLIONE:
ABSOLUTELY.
10:27:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. STOLTENBERG SAID HE WAS E-MAILING IT TO
EVERYONE.
10:27:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYTHING ELSE, ANYONE?
THANK YOU.
WE HERE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT SLOW-WALKING -- I'M JOKING.
AGAIN, SIR, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE ON THE MANY DIFFERENT
PLACES YOU SERVE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT, WE GO FORWARD WITH ITEM NUMBER 2, OUR DIRECTOR, MR.
McCRAY.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:28:10AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
AS NORMAL MONTHLY, WE PROVIDE OUR PROJECT REPORTS RELATED TO
THE PROJECT TRACKER, COMMERCIAL GRANTS TRACKER AND
RESIDENTIAL TRACKER.
I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
HEARING NONE, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE CRA PERFORMANCE
GOALS.
IN 2024, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE PASSED HB 713, WHICH, AMONG
OTHER THINGS, REQUIRED ALL SPECIAL DISTRICTS TO ADOPT GOALS
AND OBJECTIVES FOR EACH PROGRAM, ACTIVITY UNDERTAKEN BY THAT
PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
YOU ALL WERE PROVIDED WITH A DRAFT PRIOR TO THE JANUARY
MEETING.
AND AGAIN THIS MONTH.
SO JUST WANTED TO HAVE DISCUSSION OR SEEK APPROVAL TO MOVE
FORWARD.
THE DRAFT HAS BEEN POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE TO MEET THE
STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS BY DECEMBER 1st.

WE'LL SEEK APPROVAL.
10:29:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WE LEADER FROM THE PUBLIC TODAY ABOUT SOME
OF THESE GOALS.
SO WHAT I THINK WOULD BE GREAT, I THINK WE CAN APPROVE THEM
FOR TODAY, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MARCH 6 CONVERSATION,
WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS NOT ON OUR CALENDAR, THE WORKSHOP.
IT'S NOT ON THE CALENDAR, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OFFICIAL
YET.
BUT THE MARCH 6 MEETING, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ABOUT,
WE'RE CALLING IT --
10:29:46AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
COMMERCIAL GRANTS IN HOUSING, GRANTS
CONVERSATION.
10:29:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE JUST OVERALL CRA --
WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?
NOT JUST A WORKSHOP.
YEAH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A CRA WORKSHOP ON MARCH 6.
I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND I DO BELIEVE WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES
AGREEMENT, WHICH I WILL SUPPORT AGAIN FOR TODAY BECAUSE IT
IS OVER SIX MONTHS DUE AND THE STATE WILL GET ON US.
IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT, I THINK THAT MARCH
6 WORKSHOP IS THE BEST PLACE TO DO THAT.
TO REACH OUT, ALSO MAYBE BEFORE THAT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK
FROM EACH CRA IN TERMS OF -- OR RATHER, I AM SORRY, EACH
CRANK IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPE OF GOALS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SET,

REALISTIC GOALS, MAYBE BETWEEN ONE AND THREE GOALS, JUST TO
SEE HOW IT GOES.
I KNOW THIS IS A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR THE STATE, BUT I DO
BELIEVE IT'S A GOOD WAY TO TRACK WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE
PRIORITIES OF THE CAC FOR THE YEAR.
10:30:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:30:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DID I HEAR YOU
SAY TO APPROVE THE SERVICES AGREEMENT TODAY BUT THEN AT THE
MARCH DISCUSSION, TWEAK IT?
10:31:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, TO LOOK FORWARD.
WE'VE HAD THE SERVICES AGREEMENT KEEP GOING.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE AT SOME POINT IS GOING TO SLAP OUR
HANDS BECAUSE IT IS OVER SIX MONTHS OVERDUE.
10:31:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAD OTHER
THINGS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MR. McCRAY, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT TODAY, WE ARE NOT
PROHIBITED TO MAKING CHANGES TO IT MOVING FORWARD, IS THAT
CORRECT?
10:31:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M THINKING ABOUT MAKING CHANGES AND REALLY
LOOKING AT IT HOLISTICALLY FOR THE 2027.
10:31:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:31:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
CONTRACT LATER.
IF WE SIGN IT TODAY, WE GIVE ALL THE POWER BACK TO THE

ADMINISTRATION.
THE ARGUMENT -- THEY DON'T, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SIGNED IT.
THE MOST POWERFUL POSITION WE HAVE IS WHEN WE DON'T SIGN IT.
REASON HASN'T BEEN APPROVED, IT'S BEEN SLOW WALKED FOR A
NUMBER OF REASONS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THE MESSAGE FOR THE STATE SOUNDS LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE
MESSAGE.
IF THE STATE WANTS TO SLAP OUR HANDS, FINE.
WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, NOT THE ADMINISTRATION.
WE'RE IN CHARGE OF THE MONEY.
WE'RE GETTING BLAMED FOR THE SLOW-WALKING AND FOR THE LACK
OF PERFORMANCE.
WE NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF OUR OWN CRA BECAUSE THE PUBLIC
BELIEVES THAT WE'RE IN CONTROL.
BUT WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION IS ACTUALLY CONTROLLING IT
BEHIND THE SCENES AND SLOW-WALKING THINGS, MAKING US LOOK
BAD, CAUSING CONFLICT IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE TO STOP THE CONFLICT AND DIVISIVENESS BY TAKING
CONTROL OF OUR OWN CRA BOARD.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, WE HAD A
STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WHERE WE ALSO OUTLINED A
STRATEGIC PLAN THAT OVERRODE ALL THE DISTRICTS, AND IT HAS
VERY SPECIFIC GOALS IN THERE.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE GOALS THAT WERE IN HERE,
AND I UNDERSTAND THE STATE HAS SPECIFIC GUIDELINES BUT NEEDS

TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THE OVERALL INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE AT SEVERAL SESSIONS WHERE WE
HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT OUR GOALS SHOULD BE.
AND THOSE SHOULD BE REFLECTED SOMEWHERE.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE US DISCUSS AND APPROVE THOSE GOALS AND
WHATEVER THE WORKSHOP IS GOING TO BE.
CERTAINLY, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THE SERVICES CONTRACT
TODAY.
ONCE WE APPROVE IT, WE CAN PROPOSE TO CHANGE IT NEXT MONTH,
BUT THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T HAVE TO AGREE TO IT.
WE AS CITY COUNCIL COULD APPROVE IT, BUT BY CHARTER, WE
CAN'T OVERRIDE THE MAYOR.
THE MAYOR HAS TO AGREE TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
THEN WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AUGUST, AND THEN WE WILL BE
SLOW ROLLED AGAIN FOR SIX MONTHS AND END UP WITH NO CHANGES.
UNLESS WE CHANGE AND ADAPT THIS, WE'LL END UP WITH THE SAME
COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK WE HAVE FROM THE COMMUNITY EVERY
MONTH, WHICH IS THAT NOTHING IS HAPPENING.
WE'RE GETTING BLAMED FOR THINGS WE SHOULDN'T GET BLAMED FOR.
IF WE TAKE CONTROL OF OUR OWN CRA, WE'D BE ABLE TO FIX IT.
10:33:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND 30 SOME
YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
NO MAYOR ASKED ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HOW TO VOTE ON ANY
DAMN THING BECAUSE I TELL THEM TO GO YOU KNOW WHERE.
I NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANY MAYOR IN ALL MY YEARS OF

PUBLIC SERVICE REGARDING CRA AND HOW TO HANDLE IT.
IN FACT, BACK IN THE '70s WHEN STARTED BY MAYOR POE AND
THE ATTORNEY I THINK WAS MR. WILLIAMS, HENRY WILLIAMS, AND
MR. WILLIAMS WANTED TO PUT IT UNDER THE MAYOR, AND THE MAYOR
TOLD MR. WILLIAMS, NO, SIR, I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS TO
HANDLE.
PUT THAT UNDER THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP WITH US.
THAT'S ALL I KNOW.
10:34:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:34:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY,
MR. SHEPARD, COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO
ACTUALLY APPROVE THIS SERVICES AGREEMENT, WHAT IT DOES, WHAT
THE STATE --
10:34:42AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
YES, I CAN SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE I'M SUPPOSED TO INTRODUCE IT
WHENEVER WE ARE.
IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, YOU'RE CORRECT.
UNDER -- THERE IS A STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THAT YOU HAVE A
STATE AUDIT EVERY YEAR CONDUCTED FOR YOUR CRA.
ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE MADE IN THAT STATE
AUDIT IS THAT ALL OF YOUR EXPENDITURES OF TIF ARE MADE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES ABOUT YOU CAN ONLY SPEND TIF ON
THESE THINGS.

WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE.
THIS DOESN'T FALL IN THAT CATEGORY BECAUSE CLEARLY REPAYING
ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES AND OVERHEAD EXPENSES AND THE THINGS
THAT THIS AGREEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO FALLS IN THAT
CATEGORY.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS OTHER THING AUDITORS TYPICALLY DO -- I'M
NOT AN AUDITOR AND DIDN'T STAY IN THE HOLIDAY EXPRESS,
STAYED IN THE HYATT -- BUT WHAT THEY TYPICALLY WANT IS
BACKUPS FOR THE EXPENDITURES YOU DO MAKE.
THAT'S IN THE FORM OF CONTRACTS.
BECAUSE I SERVE AS COUNSEL TO THE CITRUS COUNTY HOSPITAL
BOARD, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY GOT DINGED IN AN AUDIT FOR IS
NOT HAVING ADEQUATE BACKUPS, IRONICALLY, FOR MY CONTRACT.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, HAVING A
CONTRACT TO BACK UP YOUR REIMBURSEMENTS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
FOR THE SERVICES YOU'RE GETTING IS SIGNIFICANT.
10:36:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
10:36:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
LET'S DO THIS, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON IT, BUT LET'S RESERVE
EVERYTHING FOR WHEN THE ITEM ACTUALLY COMES UP BECAUSE I
THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS.
ARE YOU SURE?
10:36:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST REAL FAST, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A REASON
TO -- WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THE EXISTING CONTRACT AS-IS SO

WE CAN PROVIDE IT IN AN AUDIT.
FACT THAT IT IS OUT-OF-DATE -- SUFFICIENT.
WAITING ANOTHER MONTH TO GET A CONTRACT THAT PUTS US BACK IN
CHARGE OF OUR OWN CRA IS A BETTER CHOICE.
10:36:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:36:38AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
I WAS JUST INFORMED THIS WAS A COMMENT FROM
MR. SCAGLIONE, THAT ITEM IS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE
TRANSMITTAL.
10:36:54AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT
AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TEXT AMENDMENT IS IN THE JULY CYCLE.
IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA NEXT WEEK.
ERIC COTTON WILL BE BRINGING IT TO YOU.
THAT WAS TO ADDRESS THE HEIGHT LIMITATION THAT, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON, YOU MADE THE MOTION FOR THE HEIGHT TO BE CHANGED IN
THE DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR FAA.
SO THAT IS IN THE JULY AMENDMENT CYCLE.
IT WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK FOR YOU AND IT WILL BE TRANSMITTED
TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
10:37:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, CLENDENIN --
10:37:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE MR. SCAGLIONE IS STILL HERE, COULD HE
JUST ASK YOU IF CERTAIN THINGS ARE INCLUDED SO WE CAN SAVE A
LOT OF TIME SENSE YOU GUYS ARE BOTH HERE.

10:37:39AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
IF I RECALL PROPERLY, WE DID IT IN TWO
PARTS.
THE FIRST PART WAS TO ADDRESS THE HEIGHT RIGHT AWAY, WHICH
WAS CHANGING THE USE TABLE WITH THE DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS
TO BUMP IT UP.
AND THEN ALSO TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE
COMP PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THE 10.5 F.A.R., AND THEN ANYTHING
PAST THAT WAS GETTING ROLLED INTO THE CODE UPDATE SO THAT WE
TOOK THE EASIEST PIECES THAT NEEDED THE MOST ATTENTION FIRST
AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS IN THE CODE UPDATE.
THAT WAS THE INCREASE IN F.A.R. AND THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT.
10:38:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WHAT WE SAID IS WE WANTED IT TO BE
INCLUDED.
10:38:21AM >> I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THAT ADOPTING THE
LAND PRACTICES TO BE THE SAME AS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
WHICH YOU ALL APPROVED 7-0, AND THAT WAS NOT -- THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THIS.
THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS.
10:38:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF EFFICIENCY.
MS. FEELEY, GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR REBUTTAL, I GUESS IF YOU
WILL.
PERHAPS WE HAVE YOU ALL SPEAK OUTSIDE AND COME UP WITH

SOMETHING DURING MOTION TIME, TO KEEP THE MEETING MOVING
FORWARD.
WE'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH.
10:39:02AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, SIR, CHAIR.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
IN RELATIONSHIP TO THAT, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
AT THE TIME WE PUT THESE TWO ITEMS, WE BIFURCATED THEM
BECAUSE THE DOWNTOWN HAS STREET TYPOLOGIES, TYPE A, B, C,
OTHER DESIGN CRITERIA THAT COULD NOT JUST BE SHIFTED OVER TO
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHY AT THE DISCUSSION WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE
SECOND SECTION INTO THE CODE UPDATE TO ALLOW FOR THE STREETS
TO GET TYPOLOGIES SIMILAR TO THE CBD AND FOR THOSE OTHER
STANDARDS TO GO INTO EFFECT AT THAT TIME.
WE TOOK THE TWO PIECES THAT NEEDED TO BE HANDLED RIGHT AWAY
AND THEN THE OTHER PARTS WE TALKED ABOUT.
I RECALL BEING HERE AND HAVING THAT FULL DISCUSSION WITH
YOU.
I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THAT MEETING AND LOOK DIRECTLY AT
THAT DISCUSSION.
10:39:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
10:39:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR BOTH PARTIES TO
LOOK AT THAT MEETING.
IF I RECALL WHAT HAPPENED, I THINK SHE'S RIGHT, MR. CARLSON
DID BRING THAT UP SOMETIME BACK.

WE DECIDED THAT THE CHANNELSIDE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT
AS DOWNTOWN AND SO FORTH.
BUT I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS GO BACK TO THAT MEETING
AND REVIEW THE RECORD SO THAT EVERYTHING IS CLEAR BETWEEN
YOU TWO AND EVERYTHING SHOULD BE HUNKY-DORY.
10:40:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. FEELEY, IT SEEMS THAT THE CONCERN WAS
THE DENSITY ISSUE.
IS THAT IN HERE?
10:40:22AM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES, SIR, IT IS.
THE TWO PIECES THAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK ARE THE
ALLOWANCE OF HEIGHT OF FAA AND THEN ALSO INCREASING THE
F.A.R. FROM THE THREE AND A HALF TO THE TEN AND A HALF.
10:40:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS MISSING?
10:40:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ALL, WE NEED TO GET BACK TO CRA.
10:40:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT THIS, GUYS?
SPEAK OUTSIDE ON IT, SEE WHAT, IF ANYTHING, IS IN DISPUTE
AND THEN HANDLE THAT DURING MOTION TIME.
THANK YOU, GUYS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:40:57AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING, BOARD MEMBERS, WAS
THE APPROVAL OF THE CRA PERFORMANCE REPORT.
AND ADOPTION.
10:41:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

10:41:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT WITH THE IDEA
THAT WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THE IDEA, OR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE
IN IT FOR THE FUTURE AT THE MARCH 6 MEETING, EVEN IF WE JUST
START WITH THE BEGINNING.
ALSO, WITH THE MARCH 6 MEETING, I'D LIKE TO YOU BRING A PLAN
FOR HOW YOU WILL TALK TO THE DIFFERENT CACs ABOUT
PERFORMANCE GOALS.
10:41:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY DISCUSSION?
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
CONTINUE, SIR.
10:41:47AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NEXT ITEM, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
WORKSHOP, WE WERE INITIALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION LAST MONTH RELATED TO THE MARCH 6 WORKSHOP.
THE WORKSHOP AND PURPOSE WAS TO GET BOARD CLARITY AND
DIRECTION RELATED TO OUR HOUSING GRANTS IN THAT PROCESS AS
WELL AS THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS.
AS YOU KNOW, YOU APPROVED THE STANDARD GRANTS, BUT WE STILL
HAD SOME -- WE NEEDED TO GO BACK AND TWEAK A FEW THINGS AS
IT RELATES TO THE SPECIAL PROJECTS.
AND THOSE REQUESTS FOR HIGHER AMOUNTS.

SO WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT TIME ON MARCH 6 TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD.
10:42:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY COMMENTS OR MOTIONS?
10:42:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONLY THAT WE ADD THAT AND A BIT OF A
CONVERSATION ABOUT -- YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
IF BOARD MEMBER CARLSON WANTS TO PUT THE SERVICES AGREEMENT
IN THERE, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
BUT WE HAVE KICKED THIS CAN FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON ABOUT POINT BY
POINT WHAT WE SHOULD CHANGE AND WHY.
I'VE HEARD FROM THE LAWYERS, AND RIGHT NOW I'M -- IF HE WERE
TO MOTION TO PUT THAT ON, I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO DISCUSSING
IT AFTER WE PASS THE CURRENT ONE FOR THIS YEAR.
10:43:11AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IS THAT A MOTION?
10:43:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
10:43:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT APPROPRIATE NOW, IF WE WANT TO ADD
THAT TO THE MARCH TO ALSO ADD THE SERVICE AGREEMENT TO THE
MARCH PORTION.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS ABSENT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THIS ITEM AND ADDITIONALLY, THE
SERVICE AGREEMENT ISSUE.
I KNOW YOU HATE IT.
IF THERE IS -- IS THERE A WAY OF LEGALLY -- DOES THE CURRENT
SERVICE AGREEMENT HAVE AN AUTOMATIC EXTENSION ON IT?

NO.
THAT'S WEIRD, ISN'T IT?
10:43:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO ME --
10:43:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:44:00AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:44:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
A MOTION REQUESTED TO CREATE THE WORKSHOP.
10:44:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE THE MARCH 6 WORKSHOP ON HOUSING
AND COMMERCIAL GRANTS IN THE FIRST SECTION OF THE WORKSHOP.
THE SECOND SECTION OF THE WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE
SERVICES AGREEMENT AND THE PERFORMANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE ALREADY AGREED ON THIS.
THE CALENDAR HAS ALREADY BEEN CHECKED.
SENT THE E-MAIL A MONTH AGO.
SUPPOSED TO BE TALKED ABOUT IN THE JANUARY MEETING.
10:44:50AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
BASICALLY, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP
IN THE DISCUSSION ON THE GRANTS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE
THAN ONE WORKSHOP BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN
THAT TO GET THROUGH IT.
MY SUGGESTION, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF WE CAN DO IT AND
GET THROUGH IT, BUT MY SUSPICION IS YOU'RE GOING TO NEED
TWO.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NOW OBVIATING ITEM 13 OR NOT, BUT IF
WE ARE ESSENTIALLY DECIDING 13 NOW, AND SINCE I WAS ASKED TO
PRESENT IT, I PROBABLY OUGHT TO AT LEAST TELL YOU WHAT ITEM

13 IS ABOUT.
10:45:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE OUGHT TO SET UP 6 FIRST.
10:45:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO WE WERE --
10:45:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S GO AHEAD AND SET UP THE 6th.
I WILL JUST SAY, WE ARE -- I MAKE A MOTION TO SET UP A MARCH
6 WORKSHOP I BELIEVE HERE IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
10:45:42AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, HANNA CITY CENTER.
10:45:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HANNA CITY CENTER AT 9 A.M.
WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED FINISHING TIME?
10:45:52AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE SET ASIDE BETWEEN 9 A.M. TO 3 P.M.
10:45:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A FULL DAY.
SO WE'LL START WITH THAT, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT
TO ADD OTHER THINGS, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE
WILL BE MULTIPLE WORKSHOPS.
10:46:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I OBJECT TO IT BEING HELD AT HANNA CITY
CENTER.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T HAVE IT HERE OR DOWNSTAIRS.
10:46:16AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE,
THE CHAMBERS WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
10:46:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THIS IS OUR HOUSE.
WHO IS IN IT?
10:46:25AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
PUBLIC NOTICES.
I BELIEVE HEARINGS TAKING PLACE.
10:46:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I OBJECT TO HOLDING IT AT HANNA CITY CENTER.
I UNDERSTAND ADMINISTRATION WANTS US TO USE THE BUILDING BUT

THIS IS WHERE WE MEET.
10:46:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
DOES THIS CONTINUE ITEM 13?
10:47:00AM >> NO.
10:47:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
YEP.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS?
10:47:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL CLARIFY.
THIS IS JUST TO HAVE THIS WORKSHOP AT HANNA CITY CENTER ON
MARCH 6 FROM 9 TO 3, FOCUSING ON THE GRANTS, BOTH
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, AND THAT IS ALL FOR NOW.
10:47:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:47:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I OBJECT TO IT
BEING AT HANNA CITY CENTER.
10:47:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY CALENDAR, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO FOR THE
WHOLE 9 TO 3, SOMETHING ON MY LEGAL CALENDAR.
I CAN MAKE IT TO THE VAST MAJORITY, IT WOULD APPEAR.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
10:47:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
10:47:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER YOUNG AND BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON VOTING NO, CORRECT?

OH, I'M SORRY.
MY BAD.
YES, MA'AM.
10:47:57AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:47:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
10:48:04AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NEXT ITEM, ANNUAL TAMPA CRA CAC ORIENTATION
ON MARCH 6 AT HANNA CITY CENTER, 4:30 P.M. TO 7 P.M.
MARCH 9.
I'M SORRY, MARCH 9.
MARCH 9.
ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT THE DREW PARK MEETING SCHEDULE WILL BE
SHIFTED.
STARTING APRIL 1, THEY WILL GO BACK TO THE FIRST WEDNESDAY
OF THE MONTH.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, WHEN I WAS SERVING IN BOTH RULES, EAST
TAMPA AND ANDREW PARK -- AND DREW PARK, THE MEETINGS WERE AT
THE SAME TIME.
THEY WILL BE GOING BACK TO THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF EACH
MONTH.
10:48:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DREW PARK CRA WILL START GETTING VERY BUSY, IT
WOULD APPEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:48:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLARIFICATION ON THE RECORD, I HAD THAT
MOTION ON THE TABLE, ITEM 13, I WANT TO PAUSE MY MOTION
UNTIL WE HEAR ITEM 13.

10:48:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
10:49:01AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
10:49:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS?
10:49:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. McCRAY.
I HAD A NOTE THAT SAID WE WANTED TO PUT ITEM 10 AFTER ITEM
3, THEN I LOOK AT ITEM 10 AND IT SAYS IT IS REQUESTING TO BE
CONTINUED TO MAY 14.
10:49:20AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
10:49:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU PREFER TO CONTINUE THAT ITEM NOW?
10:49:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE CAN, YES.
10:49:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE 10 TO MAY 14.
10:49:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, CRA BOARD.
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
10:49:44AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT.
WE WERE REQUESTING TO THE JUNE 26 CRA BOARD MEETING.
10:50:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I HAVE AN AMENDED MOTION?
10:50:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 10 TO JUNE 26 --
10:50:17AM >> SECOND.

10:50:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYTHING ELSE?
10:50:29AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT'S IT.
READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 3.
10:50:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, GO FOR IT.
10:50:34AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IF WE COULD ASK FOR THE FRANKLIN STREET
PRESENTATION TO BE CALLED UP.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MS. BRIDGES AND MS. KRESS AT THIS
TIME.
10:50:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THE
PRESENTATION?
10:50:49AM >> THREE MINUTES.
10:50:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE'LL GIVE YOU SIX.
LET'S DO SIX AS A SAFETY NET.
WE'RE DEMOCRATS.
WE BELIEVE IN SAFETY NETS.
10:51:03AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:51:09AM >> KAREN IS GOING TO GIVE THE UPDATE.
I'LL BE SITTING RIGHT HERE WITH HER.

IT'S GOING TO BE A SHORT UPDATE.
KENYETTA HAIRSTON-BRIDGES.
10:51:21AM >> KAREN KRESS.
WE REPRESENT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
THE PRESENTATION SHOULD BE UP.
I HOPE THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU TALKING
ABOUT THE PLANNING FOR FRANKLIN STREET AND NEXT TIME IT WILL
BE AN UPDATE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF FRANKLIN STREET.
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD BUT I THINK WE HAVE COME TO A GOOD
CONCLUSION WITH CRA STAFF.
A QUICK REMINDER OF WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHY WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT FRANKLIN STREET.
WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY IS WE NEED A SHOPPING,
STROLLING, BROWSING, DATE NIGHT STREET THAT FRANKLIN USED TO
BE.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PLANNING WORK IN THAT REGARD.
NEXT SLIDE.
WE STARTED -- SO WE STARTED -- I BROUGHT PROPS -- WITH OUR
VISION DOCUMENT BACK IN 2020.
AND WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT INPUT FROM PEOPLE WHO OWN
BUSINESSES, PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN, WORK DOWNTOWN, AND
VISIT DOWNTOWN.
WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
YOU CAN SEE THE KEY TAKEAWAYS ON THE SCREEN.
WHAT WE FOUND IS WE HAD ALL THESE IDEAS, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW

HOW TO PRIORITIZE THEM AND HOW MUCH THEY COST.
WE ENDED UP GETTING A GRANT FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR IS WE WANT
THE HISTORY OF THE STREET AND THE BUILDINGS TO COME TO LIFE.
WE DID HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN.
WE DID A SECOND HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN WHERE WE SURVEYED
EVERY SINGLE BUILDING ON FRANKLIN STREET AND WE SENT A
LETTER TO THE OWNER TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE DETERMINATION
IS, WHETHER THEIR BUILDING IS ELIGIBLE FOR FURTHER
PROTECTION.
AND THEN WE DID THE BIG ONE, WHICH WAS THE ACTION AND
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
THAT'S OVER -- THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK WITH YOU
ABOUT.
WE WHITTLED THIS DOWN TO A FEW SLIDES SO WE COULD BE QUICK.
WHAT THIS RESULTED IN IS A BLOCK BY BLOCK RECOMMENDATION OF
THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.
IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE RIGHT MIX OF USES FOR FRANKLIN
STREET.
CERTAINLY, WE NEED TO HAVE TANGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE
SURE IT LOOKS GOOD BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THINGS FOR
PEOPLE TO DO.
WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE VACANT BUILDINGS ACTIVATED OR
RESTORED, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO ALL OF THAT RESULTS IN THIS FINAL SLIDE.

AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF SHOWING YOU THAT IT'S UNDERGROUND,
ABOVEGROUND, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE BUILDINGS, WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH THE EVENTS, ET CETERA.
I THINK CEDRIC WILL WALK YOU THROUGH KIND OF THIS NEW PLAN
THAT WE HAVE TO CARRY IT FORWARD.
WE DID GET UNANIMOUS APPROVAL ON THIS FUNDING AWARD BACK IN
NOVEMBER OF 2024, BUT THEN WE FOUND THE WRINKLE OF WE
COULDN'T USE ANY OF THE MONEY FOR DESIGN AND SOFT COSTS,
ENGINEER RELATED.
IT IS A SPECIAL PROJECT GRANT.
WE THINK WE FOUND A NEW PATH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
10:54:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:20AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
AS YOU KNOW AND MS. KRESS JUST SHARED, WE'VE HAD CONTINUOUS
CONVERSATIONS RELATED TO THIS, INVOLVING ATTORNEY SHEPARD
AND BRIEFED ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, NOT TO
VIOLATE SUNSHINE.
I KNOW ATTORNEY SHEPARD APPRECIATES THAT.
BUT THE PATH FORWARD WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BRING IT
IN-HOUSE AS CRA INITIATED PROJECT AND WE WOULD WORK IN
COLLABORATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP EVERY STEP OF
THE WAY AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN
THE REIMAGINING AND UPDATE TO FRANKLIN STREET.
10:54:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC WHY WE HAD TO
DO THIS?

10:54:57AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
I WILL YIELD TO ATTORNEY SHEPARD.
10:55:01AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I'M CLIFF SHEPARD, THE CRA ATTORNEY OF
TAMPA FOR AS LONG AS THEY'LL HAVE ME.
THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE INITIALLY, ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE FIRST
THINGS I GOT HERE WAS REQUEST TO PUT TOGETHER A FUNDING
AGREEMENT WHERE THE PARTNERSHIP WOULD BE DOING THIS.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER PARTNERSHIP.
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME
MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN MYSELF AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
PARTNERSHIP.
I WAS NOT SAYING THEY DIDN'T DO THINGS RIGHT.
I'M SAYING THE INFORMATION I WAS PROVIDED TO TRY TO PUT
TOGETHER THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WAS INADEQUATE.
I LITERALLY GOT PowerPoint.
IT DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT PROJECTS ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO, HOW
MUCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT ON THE PROJECT AND WHAT BUDGET
YEARS ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET FUNDED.
IN TRYING TO DECONSTRUCT HOW I GOT TO THE PowerPoint FROM
WHICH I PUT TOGETHER A FUNDING AGREEMENT, WE WENT THROUGH
MEETINGS AND SO FORTH AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH
TO TRY TO GET US TO FIGURE OUT HOW IS THE PATH FORWARD FOR
THE CRA TO GET THIS STREET DONE THE WAY YOU WANTED IT AND
HAVE A CLEAR RECORD OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED SO IT DOESN'T
REFLECT INCORRECTLY WHAT IT IS THE DESIRE.
AGAIN, I HAD A PowerPoint.

AFTER LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS, AND I ASSUME FURTHER DISCUSSIONS
THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN BETWEEN THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE CRA,
THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT IF THE CRA IS SORT OF OUT IN
FRONT OF IT, IT CAN CHANNEL TO THE PARTNERSHIP THE PROJECTS
THAT IT CAN DO AND IS MADE TO DO, AND ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR DIRECTLY CONTROLLING THE MONEY TO THEM IN A WAY THAT
DOESN'T REQUIRE, I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MR.
McCRAY'S POINT, FUNDING AGREEMENT.
IT MAY BE THE FUNDING AGREEMENT IS STILL REQUIRED.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT.
IT IS PRIMARILY SO IF IT IS CRA-LED PROJECT, A LOT OF THINGS
THAT WE ARE OTHERWISE CONCERNED WITH GO AWAY BECAUSE WE
CONTROL WHERE THE MONEY GOES AS WE CONTROL THE PROJECT.
I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER.
AM I CLOSE ENOUGH?
10:56:58AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT IS CORRECT.
10:56:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FIRST.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:57:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR.
SHEPARD AND STAFF FOR NAVIGATING THIS WITH THE DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP.
10:57:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I
MAKE A MOTION?
10:57:23AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
TWO MORE THINGS.

ON THE ELMO, THESE ARE ALL THE PARTNERS THAT WE WILL BE
WORKING RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO INVITE MS. MARTINEZ UP ON OUR TEAM TO
JUST TALK ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD VERY QUICKLY.
10:57:40AM >> KENYETTA HAIRSTON-BRIDGES, AGAIN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT, SINCE WE ARE ON PUBLIC
RECORD.
WHILE ATTORNEY SHEPARD DID RECEIVE A PRESENTATION EARLY ON,
WE DID EVENTUALLY SEND HIM A PROJECT DESCRIPTION, A FULL
NARRATIVE.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON PUBLIC RECORD THAT HE DID
RECEIVE A PROJECT DESCRIPTION FROM THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
PARTNERSHIP.
BUT WE ALL AGREED TO THE PATH MOVING FORWARD.
10:58:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY WE HAVE YOUR NAME AGAIN?
10:58:12AM >> KENYETTA HAIRSTON-BRIDGES.
10:58:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MISSED THAT.
MY BAD.
10:58:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MELISA MARTINEZ, PROJECT SUPERVISOR FOR THE TAMPA CRA.
MOVING FORWARD, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS JUST -- THIS IS A
DRAFT FOR THE RFQ, REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS SO WE CAN GET
A DESIGN TEAM ON BOARD AND START WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO START THE PROJECT, BEEN

WORKING TOGETHER FOR A WHILE.
THE PLANNING IN THE NEXT TWO, THREE MONTHS TO HAVE A DESIGN
ON BOARD.
PROBABLY HAVE A DESIGN ALREADY IN SIX MONTHS.
THE PROJECT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT A YEAR.
HOPEFULLY THAT WILL WORK.
10:58:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR HIS MOTION.
10:59:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL MAKE A STATEMENT.
ONE, THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IS GEEKY AND HAPPY AND CRAZY
ABOUT THIS AS I AM ABOUT STREETCARS.
THEY COME TO THE TABLE WITH A LOT OF PASSION ON THE FRANKLIN
STREET RENOVATION.
I LOOK FORWARD BEFORE I LEAVE THIS OFFICE TO HAVE THE SAME
PASSION ON MARION STREET WHEN WE TURN THAT INTO A CORRIDOR
TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR DOWNTOWN AREA
OF TAMPA.
IN CONJUNCTION, BECAUSE OF THIS REALIGNMENT OF THE MONEY
WITH THE CRA AND DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, I MOTION TO REALIGN
THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVE FUNDING REQUEST UNDER THE TAMPA CRA
WORK IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP
AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD.
10:59:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.

DID YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING?
10:59:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS GOING TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS
WOULD REVITALIZE AN AREA NEEDED AND MAKE TAMPA ANOTHER GOLD
STAR IN THE EYES OF EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
10:59:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE?
I WILL SAY THIS, THIS PROJECT IS WHY I DO -- AGAIN, I
SUPPORTED THINGS LIKE CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND SO FORTH
BUT ULTIMATELY THE EXISTENCE OF A DOWNTOWN CRA.
BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS EVERY MODERN, ROBUST CITY DOES
NEED A DOWNTOWN WITH SPECIAL EMPHASIS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
DOES.
GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING I DO SUPPORT STRONGLY.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UNLESS WE HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS, BY BOARD
MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IT WOULD APPEAR WE ARE AT NUMBER 8.
11:00:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
COURTNEY ORR, CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
I'M PRESENTING THE CURTIS HIXON WATERFRONT SPECIAL PROJECTS
FUNDING REQUEST.

THE PRESENTATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN NOVEMBER 2025.
HOWEVER, THE CRA BOARD ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION FROM THE
PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND TO RETURN FOR AN
ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION.
SO WE HAVE TED FOWLER OF PARKS AND --
11:01:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK HAS A QUESTION.
LET ME FIND OUT, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THE
PRESENTATION?
11:01:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PRESENTATION.
11:01:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
LET'S FIRST DO THE MOTION.
11:01:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M HAPPY THAT PARKS IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT
THIS.
THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED IS I HAVE SPOKEN TO
NUMEROUS FOLKS AROUND, LIKE THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM, WHO HAD
NO IDEA THIS IS GOING ON AND THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM IS RIGHT
THERE.
I AM GOING TO ASK THAT BEFORE YOU BRING THIS BACK TO US,
THAT PARKS AND CRA GO TO ALL THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES,
FOLKS IN THE AREA AND KIND OF TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THE
PLAN IS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE BUY-IN FROM THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM.
THEY HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS HAPPENING.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY TIME ON THIS UNTIL YOU GO FORWARD
AND TALK TO THEM, GET SOME FEEDBACK.

THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LITERALLY AT THE DOG PARK.
NO, I CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MUSEUM IS A PART OF THIS
CONVERSATION, WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND CEO TELLS ME THEY DON'T
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, WE NEED MORE
CONVERSATION BEFORE I'M WILLING TO TOUCH $5 MILLION.
11:02:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE I RECOGNIZE BOARD MEMBER --
11:02:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A MOTION TO ASK THEM TO GO FORWARD --
MY MOTION IS FOR THEM TO COME BACK IN LET'S DO JUNE, JUNE
11, 2026, SO THEY HAVE TIME TO TALK TO ALL OF THE
SURROUNDING -- MAN, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH WORDS TODAY
-- STAKEHOLDERS.
THANK YOU.
11:02:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:03:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THIS IS A NEED
NOT NECESSARILY A WANT.
THE DRAINAGE AND DAMAGE THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
THE MORE YOU CONTINUE IT, WE HAVE TO HIT THE SWEET SPOT OF
RECONSTRUCTION AND FIXING THE DAMAGE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE
NEXT EVENT SEASON, IF I BELIEVE THIS IS CORRECT, THE
SCHEDULING.
HONESTLY, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT THE FOLKS YOU JUST
DESCRIBED ARE REALLY STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS.

CURTIS HIXON PARK IS A CITYWIDE ASSET.
WHILE THEY ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, IF WE HAVE A BONA FIDE
NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE DAMAGE THAT HAS TO BE FIXED, WE
NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
I THINK WE CAN HEAR FROM MR. FOWLER ON IT.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THIS IS A REALLY HEAVILY USED PUBLIC SPACE AND IT NEEDS TO
BE REPAIRED.
11:03:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA.
11:03:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS NEED TO BE
INFORMED.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT DOESN'T ADVERSELY IMPACT FOLKS.
THEY NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF IT.
WHEN THE PROJECT STARTS, THEY CAN REACH OUT.
REMIND THE CRA BOARD THE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY CONTINUED ON
THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT WITH COMPLETE DISREGARD TO THE
BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY IT
EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE VERY LITTLE IMPACT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY PROVIDE IMPACT AND A
LOT LOWER RATE.
I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE CRA SHOULD BE FUNDING
CITY PROJECTS IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT THIS ONE IS ONE THAT
WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A POLICY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE

HAVE PUBLIC INPUT IN ADVANCE, THEN WE SHOULD APPLY THAT
CONSISTENTLY AT THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT JUST THE CRA.
11:04:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:04:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T HAVE ANY RESERVATION, BUT I DO SAY IF YOU GO DOWN IN
HISTORY, THIS AREA, FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT,
HAS BEEN REVISED AND REFIXED AND DONE OVER TWO OR THREE
TIMES ALREADY AND STILL HAS FLOODING, STILL HAS THE SAME
THING IT HAD 30 YEARS AGO.
THE WATER LEVEL COMES UP, THE PARKING GARAGE FLOODS.
I'M HOPING THAT THIS SOLVES IT ALL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE
WHOEVER HAS THIS CONTRACT THAT IT'S SOLVABLE.
I DON'T WANT TO KEEP SPENDING MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT
DOESN'T WORK.
11:05:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE I RECOGNIZE BOARD MEMBER HURTAK WHO
MADE THE MOTION, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK?
OKAY.
11:05:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A FIXING, A RENOVATION, I
TEND TO AGREE ALSO WITH BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, THAT WE CAN'T
JUST RENOVATE.
WE'VE GOT TO ABSOLUTELY FIX.
AGAIN, IF WE'RE DOING IT, LITERALLY A NEIGHBOR HAD NO IDEA
THIS WAS HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT OKAY.
11:05:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS?
11:05:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANY WAY TO PASS THE MOTION AND NOTIFY THE
BUSINESSES AROUND, EVERYONE THERE, ARTISTS, KIDS, ADULTS,
THOSE THAT ARE IN BUSINESS, THOSE THAT HAVE MUSEUMS AND SO
FORTH, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN GET THIS THING
GOING?
I DON'T WANT TO CATCH IN RAINY SEASON WHEN WE HAVE A
PROBLEM.
11:06:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY ARE NOT EVEN STARTING UNTIL AFTER
OCTOBER.
11:06:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
11:06:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION?
11:06:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS MOTION IS TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT?
11:06:43AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IN ORDER TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION, I NEED TO
REMOVE MY SECOND.
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION.
11:06:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG IS RESPECTFULLY REMOVING
HER SECOND.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE?
11:07:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE THE MOTION, BUT I
WANT TO PASS THIS TODAY SO THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING AND
BALANCE BEFORE THEY CAN TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND COME BACK,
ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
TWO OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME SO WE DON'T LOSE TIME.

11:07:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK TO CONTINUE
EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THE PRESENTATION AND THE VOTE TO JUNE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?
BY THE WAY, I AM OPEN, FOR THE RECORD, TO FOLLOWING THE
PRESENTATION IF FOLKS DO WISH TO BE HEARD BEFORE WE PASS
THIS, DOING IT TO NEXT MONTH.
I'M OPEN TO THAT IF THE NEED ARISES.
I WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF ON IT FIRST, A MEET IN THE MIDDLE
THING.
11:07:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL ASK MY QUESTION NOW SO YOU CAN ANSWER
IT IN THE PRESENTATION.
MR. FOWLER, COULD YOU ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT MR. MIRANDA
HAD ABOUT THE LONG-TERM VIABILITY OF THIS.
IS THERE LIKE A $50 MILLION PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
EVENTUALLY OR WILL THIS FIX THE PROBLEM?
11:08:04AM >>TED FOWLER:
TED FOWLER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
THE SCOPE OF THIS WORK IS MEANT TO FIX THE DRAINAGE ISSUES
THAT WE HAVE ON BOTH GREAT LAWNS.
IT'S ALSO MEANT TO FIX ALL THE SAFETY ISSUES WE HAVE AND
MAKING IT A HARD SURFACE THROUGHOUT THE PARK TO NOT ONLY
HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO ALL THE AMENITIES THAT COME WITH THE
SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEY GET DOWN TO THE PLAYGROUND, BUT IT
ALSO WILL MAKE CHANGES SO THAT THE TRUCKS THAT DRIVE ON 29
TIMES A YEAR TO OFF-LOAD FOR THE EVENTS WILL NOT DAMAGE IT.
WE'RE REFORTIFYING THE CONCRETE TO SOLID CONCRETE ALL THE

WAY AROUND THE PARK WHEREAS NOW IT IS A PAVER SYSTEM THAT
WAS DONE 15 YEARS AGO.
WE EXPECT TO FIX ALL OF THE ISSUES.
WE'LL RE-GRADE THE LAWN, IRRIGATION, AND TAKE THE WATER
WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO INSTEAD OF IT --
11:08:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, WERE YOU FINISHED?
GREAT.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:08:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THERE'S NOTHING IN LIFE HUNDRED PERCENT
GUARANTEED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS IS AN ONGOING THING.
GOING ON 30 YEARS NOW OR MORE.
EVERY TIME WE FIX IT, SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS TO IT.
I WANT TO BE SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING WILL LAST NUMBER OF YEARS
FOR THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AND 5.5 MILLION
COVERS THE TOTAL COST?
11:09:20AM >>TED FOWLER:
WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE CHANGES, AND THEY
ARE NOT JUST RENOVATIONS, THERE ARE STRICT CHANGES TO THE
DESIGN OF THE PARK WITH THE HARD SCAPE, WE FEEL CONFIDENT --
11:09:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PILINGS OF CONCRETE TO HOLD THE WATER
BACK?
11:09:32AM >>TED FOWLER:
WELL, NO.
WE'LL RE-GRADE BOTH GREAT LAWNS TO TAKE THE WATER WHERE IT
NEEDS TO GO AND ALSO HAVE IRRIGATION TO MAKE SURE THE GRASS

GROWS THE WAY IT DOES BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC.
BUT THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT, IN MY OPINION, IS THE CONCRETE
AROUND THROUGHOUT IN THE ENTIRE PARK INSTEAD OF THE PAVER
SYSTEM WE HAVE NOW.
11:09:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOPE YOU USE WATER-PROOF CONCRETE.
11:09:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
AFTER THIS, I WANT YOU TO GO FORWARD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION,
IF IT GOES FORWARD UNLESS THERE IS A MOTION.
11:10:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS MY POINT.
HE SAID IT'S NOT JUST A FIX.
THEY ARE RENOVATING AND THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T TALK TO YOUR
NEIGHBORS BEFORE YOU RENOVATE, I'M NOT OKAY WITH.
11:10:09AM >>TED FOWLER:
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I SAID IT WASN'T JUST A
RENOVATION, IT'S A FIX.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
SORRY.
11:10:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, DOING A FIX WITHOUT TALKING TO YOUR
NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT IS JUST NOT OKAY.
IT'S NOT OKAY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO DO, IT'S NOT OKAY FOR
THE CRA TO DO.
11:10:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
MR. FOWLER, HOW LONG DO YOU NEED FOR THE PRESENTATION?
11:10:29AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN GO THROUGH IT REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I
HIGHLIGHTED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
11:10:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THREE MINUTES, FOUR?

11:10:36AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN DO DEFINITELY IN THREE.
THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, AS I SAID, IS FORTIFYING THE CONCRETE
AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS WE
HAVE RUN INTO IS WITH AS MANY EVENTS AS WE HAVE -- AND I'M
NOT DISCOUNTING WHAT WAS DONE IN 2010, BUT THE SYSTEM THAT
THEY DID IN 2010 IS NOT FOOLPROOF FOR THE HEAVY LOAD-IN AND
LOAD-OUT THAT WE HAVE ON OUR EVENTS.
WE ARE DOING COMPLETE FORTIFICATION OF ALL HARD AREAS FROM
THE STREET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RIVERWALK.
THAT IS THE BIG SCOPE OF IT.
WE ARE RE-GRADING THE GREAT LAWNS, TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S
SUGGESTION, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE DOESN'T POOL
ANYMORE.
AS ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN TO CURTIS HIXON DURING A RAIN EVENT
DURING A SPECIAL EVENT, THE WATER POOLS IN THE GREAT LAWN.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE.
WE'LL ALSO ADD LAWN FURNITURE, CANOPY TREES AND SHADE
STRUCTURES.
I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT FOR $5.5 MILLION, BUT
THE SCOPE OF THE WORK IS VERY VAST AS FAR AS IMPROVING THE
HARD SCAPE FOR ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL AS THE WEAR AND TEAR
THAT COMES WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS PARK WE HAVE.
WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN 2029.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS HERE, WE HAD THREE OR FOUR ACTIVATIONS
THAT WEEK ALONE IN CURTIS HIXON PARK.

WE ANTICIPATE WITH EVERY EVENT WE'RE AWARDED, ALONG WITH OUR
REGULAR INVENTORY OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT CONTINUE TO GROW,
THIS IS A NECESSARY STEP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE
THE BEST SERVICES FOR OUR VISITORS AND OUR FOLKS THAT COME
TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.
WE ALSO HAVE LOOKED AT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS BROUGHT UP ABOUT INTERRUPTION
OF SERVICE.
WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT WE CAN DO THE BULK OF THE WORK
AND INTERRUPT AS FEW SPECIAL EVENTS AS POSSIBLE FROM MID MAY
TO SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS OUR DOWN TIME FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
FEEL WE CAN GET THE HARD SCAPES AND THE DRAINAGE ISSUES
FIXED IN THE 120 DAYS BECAUSE WE CAN DO IT EN MASSE.
WEATHER PERMITTING, OF COURSE.
WE KNOW SUMMER RAINS COME AND CONCRETE DOESN'T DO WELL WITH
THUNDERSTORMS.
WE FEEL WE CAN SCHEDULE IT OUT AND AFFECT AS LITTLE FOLKS AS
POSSIBLE AS FAR AS SPECIAL EVENTS AND PROMOTERS.
11:12:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
FINISHED?
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:12:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M FINISHED.
11:12:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE YOU USING TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO SHADE
TREES?
11:13:05AM >>TED FOWLER:
WE WILL DEFINITELY USE THAT.

WE HAVEN'T NAILED DOWN WHAT TYPE OF TREES WE'RE USING, BUT
THAT WILL COME AFTER WE GET THE AWARD AND DO THE PLANNING.
11:13:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF SO, IF YOU ARE USING TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO
SHADE TREES, WHICH, A, I THINK YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE WE
DESPERATELY NEED SHADE.
THAT IS A MISERABLE PARK TO BE IN FOR I'D SAY AT LEAST NINE
MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
IT'S VERY HARD TO ENJOY THE PARK BECAUSE OF THE HEAT.
I'M GLAD YOU ARE DOING THE SHADE STRUCTURES.
AGAIN, THIS GOES TO YOU REALLY SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE
NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE PUTTING THIS FURNITURE AND THE
SHADE STRUCTURES AND THE TREES AND ALL OF THAT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO PASS.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AS AN ADDENDUM IS HAVING
TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND INCLUDING THEIR FEEDBACK.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING ALSO IS THAT SHOULD WE HAVE -- WITH
THE ADDITION OF THE ART MUSEUM, IS THE PLAYGROUND DOWN BY
THE WATER REALLY A GOOD IDEA ANYMORE.
WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE UP BY THE WATER FEATURE AND THE MUSEUM?
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO
USE TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO SHADE TREES, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU
WOULD GO TO THE TREE TRUST FUND TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT, TO
BE ABLE TO USE THE FIVE AND A HALF -- 5.5 FOR OTHER
ADDITIONAL IDEALLY SHAPED STRUCTURES.
11:14:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.

BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK, MA'AM?
GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:14:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER ONE, JUST GOING BACK IN HISTORY A
LITTLE BIT, YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A
PROPOSAL BY THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART BEFORE THEY BUILT THE
CURRENT MUSEUM, RAFAEL VINOLY PROPOSAL THAT WOULD HAVE
CREATED SHADE BETWEEN THE ROUND BUILDING AND WHAT IS NOW THE
CHILDREN'S MUSEUM.
MAYOR PAM IORIO PUSHED AGAINST THAT.
HER VISION WAS TO CREATE A FRONT DOOR FOR THE CITY.
SO WHEN YOU COME DOWN ASHLEY, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE ON THE
WATER AND YOU CAN SEE THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.
THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE OPPOSED TO IT.
NOW THAT IT'S DONE, I THINK SHE WAS RIGHT.
SHE CREATED THIS BEAUTIFUL FRONT DOOR THAT IS ONE OF THE
BEST VIEWS IN THE CITY.
YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING BY IN ANY DIRECTION.
YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN WALKING BY.
THE SHADE IS A PROBLEM.
BUT AS YOU ALL PLAN THIS, PLEASE DON'T DESTROY THE VIEW.
BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY GAVE UP THE RAFAEL VINOLY DESIGN, AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES YOU CAN GOOGLE ON THAT, SO THAT WE
COULD GET THIS VIEW.

WE SHOULD PLAN IT CAREFULLY, PLUS THE KIND OF EVENTS THAT GO
THERE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN.
THANKS TO MAYOR IORIO FOR DOING THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS KILEY GARDEN, THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE BUT
NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT.
11:15:58AM >> NO, SIR.
11:15:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, I OFTEN
DISAGREE WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT A LOT OF THEIR PICKS
ARE REALLY GOOD.
I THINK IN THE SHORT TIME I HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU, I'M
VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
YOU KNOW THE PARKS IN TAMPA SO WELL AND SO DEEPLY.
I REALLY LIKE TONY MULKEY, TOO, BUT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT
JOB.
PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
THANK YOU.
11:16:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
11:16:25AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MY QUESTION WAS REALLY JUST GOING TO BE I
GUESS KIND OF WHAT IS -- I GUESS I'M SAYING THIS TO THE
COUNCIL.
WHAT IS THE HAPPY MEDIUM?
I UNDERSTAND BOTH POINTS.
WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE THE FIXES IN THE PARK, BUT I ALSO
AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TALK
WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT IS THE SUGGESTION?
HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT?
11:16:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL LET YOU RESPOND AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO HASN'T SPOKEN.
BUT GO AHEAD.
11:17:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SAID -- JUST LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I THINK
THIS IS GOING TO PASS, BUT MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE AN
AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THAT THEY NEED TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS
WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE PLAN FOR THIS.
11:17:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M READY TO MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THE
AMENDMENT.
11:17:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THAT WOULD BE MY THING.
AS WE GO FORWARD, MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU BRING SOMETHING LIKE
THIS TO US THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS,
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE TECHNICALLY OWN THAT BUILDING.
11:17:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE WILL HAVE A MOTION BEFORE THAT, BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:17:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
I'M THERE SIX OUT OF SEVEN DAYS OF THE WEEK.
I'M HERE TODAY, SO I'M NOT THERE NOW.
I GO THROUGH THAT PARK.
HOW BROAD IS THE SCOPE OF WORK, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE GREAT
LAWNS.
YOU HAVE THE PAVERS WHICH I'VE TRIPPED MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'VE GOTTEN BETTER AT IT, BUT THEY ARE SO DANGEROUS.
IT'S A LAWSUIT.
I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.
HOW WIDE IS IT?
IF I'M LOOKING EAST IN THE PARK AND YOU HAVE THE MUSEUM OF
ART AND THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM, THAT IS A HIGHER ELEVATED
AREA.
YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY WORK IN THAT WALKWAY, ARE YOU?
11:18:13AM >>TED FOWLER:
WE'RE DOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TERRACES.
YOU KNOW HOW THE PARK IS TERRACES, MUSEUM AND TERRACED DOWN,
DOING FROM THE TERRACES ALL THE WAY DOWN, WE'RE DOING THE
ENTIRE PARK.
11:18:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE NEW ENTRANCE TO THE MUSEUM OF ART,
THE MAIN ONE IS NOW FACING THE RIVER.
SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING
IN FROM THE DRIVE AISLE ON THE OTHER SIDE, CORRECT?
11:18:32AM >>TED FOWLER:
I CAN CONFIRM THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON IT BECAUSE THE PLANS HAVEN'T BEEN
FINALIZED YET.
BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
11:18:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE ARE OTHER ACCESS POINTS.
IF THE PARK IS SHUT DOWN, EVEN WITH THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM,
THERE IS THAT OPEN WALKWAY, THE STAY CURIOUS MURAL
UNDERNEATH WITH THE POE GARAGE.
THE OTHER SIDE THE RIVER GATE TOWER AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S BEYOND KILEY GARDENS SO THAT'S NOT AFFECTED.
WILL THE RIVERWALK ACCESS BE CLOSED CLOSEST TO THE WATER?
11:19:02AM >>TED FOWLER:
I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL.
I CAN AGAIN GET BACK WITH YOU.
I KNOW THE SCOPE OF WORK WILL BE DONE MOSTLY IN THE TIMES
DURING THE SUMMER.
THAT'S OUR PLAN.
SO ANY CLOSURE WILL BE MINIMAL.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I CAN VERIFY THAT AND GET BACK
WITH YOU.
11:19:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW THERE ARE PAVERS ALL THE WAY TO
THE RIVER AND PAVERS TO ASHLEY DRIVE, I BELIEVE.
THERE ARE JUST SO MANY ACCESS POINTS TO THE PARK.
EVEN IF YOU COMPLETELY BUTCHER IT, CHOP IT UP FOR THE NEW
PAVEMENT, I'M USING ALL THE BAD WORDS TODAY, BUT WHEN YOU
ARE LAYING DOWN THAT CONCRETE, YOU STILL HAVE ACCESS POINTS,
LIKE, IF I'M WALKING, I DON'T HAVE TO STOP AND SAY, WELL, I
HAVE TO CROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER AND LOOP AROUND
AND WHATNOT.
11:19:40AM >>TED FOWLER:
WHEN COMPLETING A PROJECT LIKE THAT, WE'LL
TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF
EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY.
11:19:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ONLY COMPLAINT I RECEIVED IS FROM A
FRIEND OF MINE WHEN HE HEARD ABOUT THIS, JUST SAID, MORE
SHADE AND MORE LIGHTING.

HE GOES THERE AT NIGHT WALKING, AND THAT'S ALREADY I THINK
GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN A MOTION.
I'M GOOD WITH IT.
THANK YOU.
11:20:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE
MOTION.
11:20:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY LAST TIME.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE TALKING, ABOUT SHADE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THAT PARK IS USED FOR A LOT MORE
THINGS, SKATING RINK DURING THE HOLIDAYS, BANDS THAT COME
AND PLAY.
THEY HAVE BIG AREAS THAT THEY NEED STAGES ON TO PUT ON.
IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING.
THE SINKHOLE YOU HAD, ALL AROUND ASHLEY STREET DRIVE.
YOU CAN PUT A CAR ALMOST IN IT WHEN I SAW IT ONE DAY.
IT WAS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.
BUT THAT PARK IS USED FROM VERY DIFFERENT VENUES.
SPLASH OF WATER TO BUILDING ALMOST A COMPLETE THING
OVERNIGHT AND TAKING IT DOWN TWO DAYS LATER.
IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN JUST WHAT I WANT TO DO, WHAT YOU
HAVE TO DO, TO GET DONE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?
11:20:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.

MAKE YOUR MOTION, SIR.
11:20:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SOMEWHERE ON THE 8th FLOOR SCOTT STEADY IS SHAKING, LITTLE
HAIRS ON THE BACK OF HIS HEAD RAISED WHEN COUNCILMAN GUIDO
MANISCALCO WAS SPEAKING.
THE MOST PROFOUND STATEMENT I'VE EVER HEARD FROM THE DAIS,
I'M NOT THERE BECAUSE I'M HERE.
11:21:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:21:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT YOU WERE CHANNELING SOMETHING
SOMEWHERE.
ESOTERIC KIND OF STUFF.
I MOVE FILE CRA 25-18726 PROVIDING THE FUNDING REQUEST OF
AMOUNT OF $5.5 MILLION FOR PROPOSED RENOVATIONS TO CURTIS
HIXON PARK AND REQUEST THAT CITY STAFF COORDINATE WITH THE
ADJACENT NEIGHBORS OF THE PARK ON THEIR WANTS, NEEDS, AND
WISHES FOR THE RENOVATIONS.
11:21:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:21:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHIN FOUR WEEKS, 30 DAYS.
11:21:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, PART OF THAT
MAYBE WE GET A WRITTEN REPORT NEXT CRA ON THE OUTREACH THAT
WAS DONE JUST SO THAT WE KNOW.
11:22:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE NEXT CRA IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TIME
BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION HAS TO BE IN THE SYSTEM.
I'D GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
11:22:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD SAY -- E-MAIL US AND LET US KNOW.

THAT'S FINE.
11:22:14AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:22:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST REAL FAST, REMIND ANYBODY WATCHING,
THIS IS THE CRA MEETING, NOT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
ALTHOUGH PARKS ARE FALLING APART ALL OVER THE PLACE AND MR.
FOWLER IS WORKING ON THAT WITH US, THIS MONEY CAN ONLY BE
USED IN DOWNTOWN.
IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
CAN'T BE USED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ANYWHERE ELSE.
11:22:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF THINGS ON THAT.
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
THIS PARK IS VERY SPECIAL TO ME.
I USED TO TAKE MY SON THERE A LOT WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER.
THE WATER THING, AND A LOT OF REALLY GOOD MEMORIES THERE.
I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
THE IDEA OF CRA FUNDS, FUNDING PARKS, I ACTUALLY SUPPORT
THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A CRA, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE, IT'S KIND
OF TWO THINGS.
YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CRA CAN HELP FUND THE PARKS
SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND SO THAT
THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND CAN FUND SULPHUR SPRINGS, SOUTH
TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, AND PLACES THAT ARE NOT IN
THE CRA.

THAT'S MY INTENT WITH THAT.
DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY.
ONE THING I DID WANT TO ASK, IF I MAY, MR. FOWLER.
I'LL ASK AFTER THE MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
MR. FOWLER, I HAVE A QUESTION.
OVER HERE ON CURTIS HIXON PARK, I KNOW WE TALKED WITH
MR. McCRAY, WE HAVE DISABILITY FRIENDLY EQUIPMENT COMING
IT APPEARS THIS COMING WEEK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AT THE WATER WORKS PARK.
ARE THERE ANY PLANS?
IN SPEAKING WITH MR. McCRAY, MY RECOLLECTION WAS WE WERE
GOING TO WAIT ON RENOVATIONS THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE PARK
AND THEN LOOK AT THAT.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN MAKE PLANS TO LOOK FOR IN THE NEAR
FUTURE?
11:24:03AM >>TED FOWLER:
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
11:24:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS A FLAGSHIP PARK.
YOU NEED THAT, AGAIN, NOT JUST ACCESSIBILITY TO THE LAND BUT
EQUIPMENT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON THAT LATER ON, IF I MAY.
11:24:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE REQUEST HE E-MAIL THE STATUS OF
THAT AS WELL WHEN YOU DO THAT?
11:24:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE, YEAH.
WHAT I'LL DO IS I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO WORK ON A
PIECE OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT IS DISABILITY FRIENDLY
HERE AT CURTIS HIXON PARK.
LET'S HAVE IT RETURN IN OUR JUNE MEETING.
11:24:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR --
11:24:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE PASSED IT ALREADY.
11:24:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM CHAIR VIERA.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY COMMENTS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
11:24:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM.
ONE OTHER THING, I E-MAILED MY ASSISTANT, WHICH IS I DO
THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF EVENT FOR THE CRA FOR
THE WATER WORKS PARK ON THAT DISABILITY EQUIPMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY.
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT AND WE SHOULD CELEBRATE
IT FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO FAMILIES.
EVEN IF YOU ARE SOMEONE LIKE MY MOTHER WITH MY BROTHER WHO
IS 54, STILL MEANS A LOT.
SYMBOLIC.

WE'LL BE IN CONTACT.
APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU, BOARD, FOR THAT.
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 11.
11:25:36AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
WE HAVE PROVIDED AN UPDATED MEMO RELATED TO THIS ITEM IN THE
DOWNTOWN CRA FIRE STATION NUMBER 1.
STAFF WAS REQUESTED TO GO OUT AND DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE AS
IT RELATES TO TALKING TO DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE WORKED WITH REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS HERE WITHIN THE
CITY TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF SITES.
THOSE OWNERS WERE NOT NECESSARILY WILLING TO SELL AND MOVE
THAT PROCESS ALONG.
WE HAVE HAD CONTINUOUS CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE UNION AS
WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP.
AND THEY HAVE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED THAT THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH REAL ESTATE TO LOOK AT OTHER
OPTIONS.
11:26:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM, SIR?
11:26:30AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, NO.
I KNOW THERE WAS A REQUEST TO HAVE SOME FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS, WITH COUNTY, IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT, BUT
WITHOUT A CLEAR-CUT PLAN IN PLACE, WE THOUGHT THAT MAY BE
PROBLEMATIC TO OPEN UP THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
WE'RE JUST RESPONDING TO THE REQUEST FROM THE BOARD AND

WOULD ASK THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WORK WITH REAL ESTATE TO
LOOK AT POTENTIAL OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD.
11:26:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, THIS WAS YOUR ITEM.
DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON IT?
11:27:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU'LL COME BACK AND REPORT ON IT?
11:27:07AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, SIR.
WE WERE NOT.
THE REQUEST WAS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH REAL
ESTATE TO LOOK AT OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS.
11:27:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MAYBE WE CONTINUE THIS
FOR SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
JUST TO KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.
SIX MONTHS BEFORE YOU LEAVE?
11:27:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, IT IS.
OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, AND THAT WOULD BE TO AUGUST.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON TO CONTINUE THIS
ITEM TO AUGUST.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY DISCUSSION ON IT?
YES, SIR.
11:27:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE,
FIRE STATION 1 EXPANSION AND RENOVATION AND SHOULD FOCUS ON
THAT AND NOT WASTE OUR TIME ON THE REAL ESTATE ISSUE.
THE ONLY THING WE HAVE A DEFICIT IN RIGHT NOW IS THE

RESPONSE TIME ON THE SOUTH TIP OF HARBOUR ISLAND AND THAT IS
ONLY A RESCUE DEFICIT.
NOT NECESSARILY BUILDING ANOTHER FIRE STATION.
I THINK THIS IS AN EXERCISE -- THESE AGENDAS GET FULL.
EXERCISE OF FUTILITY.
IF WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES, WE HAVE A LOT OF REAL ESTATE
AT FIRE STATION 1.
WE CAN ADD BAYS.
MOVE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF OUT.
A LOT OF OPTIONS.
CENTRALLY LOCATED.
HITS CHANNELSIDE, DOWNTOWN, GASWORX, HITS EVERYTHING WE NEED
TO DO FROM THAT LOCATION.
11:28:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:28:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THE PLANS
FOR FIRE STATION 1 REMODEL, LARGER, DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY
TO UPDATE IT TO TODAY'S STANDARDS, AM I CORRECT?
11:28:44AM >> YES.
11:28:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED, THAT SHOULD AT
LEAST BE ADDRESSED BEFORE.
IF WE HAVE IT NOW, LET'S DO IT NOW.
I AGREE WITH THAT PART.
11:28:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:28:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I ACTUALLY TALKED TO CHIEF TRIPP

YESTERDAY.
THERE'S GOOD NEWS ON STATION 1 IN THAT WHEN THEY HAVE EXTRA
STAFF, THEY ARE ACTUALLY HAVING THAT STAFF FILL A NEW
ENGINE, ENGINE 26.
THEY HAVE ANOTHER ENGINE WORKING OUT OF STATION 1 WHEN THEY
HAVE THE PERSONNEL FOR IT, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.
11:29:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE BY BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BELIEVE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS FOR MANY REASONS, INCLUDING WE
NEED TO KEEP THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WHENEVER
IT COMES, IF IT'S NECESSARY, I'M NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERT,
I'M A LAWYER AND A POLITICIAN, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT?
IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A SEPARATE BUILDING, WE NEED TO KEEP
IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO IT FOR THAT, IT WILL
NOT HAPPEN.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT.
YES, SIR.
11:29:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE ANY ENERGY IN AMENDING THE MOTION
TO JUST DISCUSS THE BUDGET FOR DOWNTOWN RENOVATION OF FIRE
STATION 1 AND NECESSARY EQUIPMENT?
AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA RIGHTFULLY SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE
SHOULD BE DOING NOW.
MAYBE THERE IS A FUTURE -- IF THERE IS A FUTURE NEED FOR
SOMETHING ELSE, LET'S FOCUS ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT

NOW.
THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE A GOOD THING FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS
BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE THAN WHAT
WE HAVE.
11:30:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, QUESTION DIRECTED AT THE MOTION
MAKER.
11:30:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION.
JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A REQUEST THAT GOES BACK TO
WHEN JOE GRECO WAS THE HEAD OF THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THEIR
ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER FIRE STATION.
I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION DISAGREES WITH THAT, BUT FROM A
CRA BOARD POINT OF VIEW, IF WE KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN
WE CAN AT LEAST HONOR THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO SAY THAT THEY
NEED THIS.
11:30:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS GET SOMETHING
DONE THAT'S NEEDED NOW TO FIX WHILE THEY LOOK AT WHATEVER IS
NEEDED TO DO WHATEVER IS NEEDED WHERE ELSE IN THE CITY TO
COMPLEMENT THE NEED FOR.
IF I SAY THAT AND THIS DOESN'T GET FIXED, I'M SPENDING TIME
AND MONEY BECAUSE THINGS ARE GOING UP IN COST.
LET'S GET WHATEVER WE NEED IN STATION ONE, WHILE LOOKING AT
WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DOWN, ANOTHER
QUESTION WITHIN THE QUESTION.
IF WE DON'T START SOMETHING DONE, NO ONE IS GETTING ANY
BENEFIT, NOT THE FIREFIGHTERS, NOT THE TAXPAYERS, NOT NO

ONE.
I'M TRYING TO GET THAT STATION BROUGHT UP TO PAR, WHATEVER
PAR IS, THAT IS NEEDED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN
ADDRESS IT NOW.
11:31:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN PROBABLY VOTE.
11:31:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED TO MR.
SHEPARD TO JUST FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO IN TERMS
OF RENOVATING AS THE CRA.
THIS MAY BE A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE.
11:31:42AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
WELL, THE ANSWER IS, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
-- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE STATION, YES?
11:31:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
11:31:50AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THE ANSWER IS NOTHING UNLESS YOU HAVE AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY WHICH IS HOW THIS WHOLE THING
STARTED TO BEGIN WITH.
11:31:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M TALKING ABOUT RENOVATION.
11:31:57AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I AM, TOO.
BECAUSE IT IS A CITY FACILITY.
11:32:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS PRESENTS --
11:32:03AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
IT WOULD BE LIKE TRYING TO RENOVATE THIS
BUILDING.
MAY HAPPEN TO BE IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA, BUT IT IS THE SAME
ISSUE.

11:32:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE IT
KEEPS ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE THAT SHOULD BE KEPT ON THE
TABLE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS CORRECT, THIS IS SOMETHING PUSHED BY
FORMER PRESIDENT JOE GRECO.
MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR EYES ON THE BALL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS SUPPORT IN THE ADMINISTRATION
ON RENOVATING STATION ONE BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR A SEPARATE
BUILDING.
ALL OPTIONS OUGHT TO BE ON THE TABLE AND WE OUGHT TO STAY ON
IT.
MY VIEW.
11:32:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL FULLY SUPPORT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN
IF HE MAKES A SEPARATE MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
ALSO, I WANT TO THANK OUR CRA ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE IS THE TOP
EXPERT IN THE STATE ON CRAs, HE WAS ABLE TO FIND THAT WE
COULD POTENTIALLY FUND --
11:32:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IF WE DON'T GIVE
THE STAFF DIRECTION, THEY'LL CONTINUE TO USE RESOURCES AND
MONEY ON SOMETHING WHILE WE HAVE FIRE STATIONS FALLING
APART, WE HAVE MOLD ISSUES.
SO WE HAVE ALL THESE THINGS AROUND THE CITY THAT NEED TO BE
FOCUSED ON IN FIRE STATIONS.
EVEN IF I WAS TO CONSENT THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR AN
ADDITIONAL STATION, ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES, IT HAS TO BE

-- THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS IN FIRE STATIONS WE NEED
TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE WE HIT THAT ONE.
MAYBE THE OPTION IS BIFURCATE THIS AND SAY WE SEPARATE
STATION ONE, THE RENOVATION AND POTENTIAL EXPANSION, AND
THEN AS ONE MOTION, AND THEN THE SECOND MOTION WOULD BE TO
HAVE, ABOUT THE EXPLORATION OF A SECOND STATION.
BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUES.
11:33:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, DO YOU STAY WITH YOUR
ORIGINAL MOTION, SIR?
11:33:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST EXTRACT FIRE STATION ONE AND HAVE IT
AS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
11:33:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEPARATE
THEM?
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS BUT TO SEPARATE IT
INTO TWO ITEMS -- MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE
AUGUST CRA MEETING AND SEPARATE IT INTO TWO ITEMS.
ONE WOULD BE THE REVIEW OF POSSIBLE SITES FOR A NEW STATION
AND THE SECOND WOULD BE EXPANSION OF STATION ONE --
RENOVATION AND EXPANSION.
11:34:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD SECOND THAT.
11:34:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE?
11:34:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WANT TO CONTINUE IT?
11:34:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'RE CONTINUING TO AUGUST AND WE'RE

SPLITTING IT INTO TWO, TWO SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS.
ONE ABOUT RENOVATION --
11:34:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DANGER THERE IS
ADDRESSED QUICKER THAN LATER.
11:34:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S WHAT WE DID, WE INCORPORATED THAT
INTO THE --
11:34:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
11:34:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
I NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATION EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE
VOTING ON.
11:34:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU, BOARD.
NEXT WE GO TO 13.
11:35:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. SHEPARD, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU WERE
ASKED TO PRESENT ON THIS.
WHO ASKED YOU TO PRESENT?
11:35:14AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
I DID REVIEW THE CONTRACT.
BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, I SUPPOSE IT MAKES SENSE.
I HAVE A SENSE ALSO WHERE THESE THINGS FIT IN WITH CRAs
ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
MY ASSUMPTION IS THE REASON AND I'M HAPPY TO START TALKING
ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE READY.

11:35:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE WE BEGIN, FOR GROUND RULES ON THIS,
BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT ONE HOUR AND TEN MINUTES BEFORE
CUTOFF, EACH MEMBER GETS THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU NEED MORE, THAT'S FINE.
SECOND ROUND THREE MINUTES, WHATEVER.
SIR, HOW LONG DO YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:35:46AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
TWO MINUTES.
11:35:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GIVE YOU THREE.
11:35:48AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, CRAs AROUND THE
STATE OF FLORIDA, TYPICALLY, NOT ALL OF THEM, TYPICALLY HAVE
AN AGREEMENT LIKE THE ONES -- PLURAL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO
THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING FOR
REPAYMENT OF SERVICES.
THE BASIS FOR THE AGREEMENTS IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST
THINGS, IN FACT, THE FIRST THING THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO
SPEND TIF MONEY ON IS REPAYMENT TO THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY,
IN THIS CASE, THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR MONIES THAT THEY EXPEND
ON SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE CRA SUCH AS SECRETARIAL,
ADMINISTRATIVE, PAYROLL, PERSONNEL.
IT CAN BE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SERVICES.
IT VARIES FROM CRA TO CRA WHAT IT IS.
IT CAN ALSO BE THE USAGE OF EQUIPMENT.
COPY MACHINES AND COMPUTERS AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS.
SO THAT THE CRA ISN'T GETTING A FREE RIDE.
IT IS PAYING PROPORTIONATE SHARE.

IN THE AGREEMENTS, IT IS CRITICAL THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS
ARE TRUE.
NUMBER ONE, THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST ARBITRARILY MADE UP AS TO
THE AMOUNTS THAT THE CRA IS BEING CHARGED.
THEY HAVE TO BE AUDITABLE, WHICH IS WHY AUDITS ARE AN
IMPORTANT PART OF EVERYTHING I THINK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY
WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE CAN SPEND MONEY.
DONE CORRECTLY, A CRA SERVICES AGREEMENT JUST LITERALLY
ESTABLISHES THE GROUND RULES BY WHICH THE CRA RECEIVES
SERVICES FROM THE CITY AND SOMETIMES THE CRA PROVIDES
SERVICES BACK TO THE CITY.
AND GETS REIMBURSED FOR THE SERVICES IT PROVIDES AND
REIMBURSES THE CITY FOR THE SERVICES IT RECEIVES.
THAT'S THE IDEA.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THIS AGREEMENT THAT I WAS PRESENTED
BACK IN SEPTEMBER TO REVIEW WAS MODELED ON THE PRIOR
AGREEMENTS.
ALL I DID WAS LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS UPDATED AS TO
DATES AND SO FORTH.
THE REASON I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, OTHER THAN
LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT STOOD OUT TO ME AS THIS
IS NOT A GOOD IDEA OR THIS IS AN ILLEGAL IDEA, IT'S BECAUSE
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU ALL CAN CORRECT ME, THAT A
SIMILAR AGREEMENT WITH JUST THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES HAD BEEN
APPROVED MULTIPLE TIMES PREVIOUSLY.

MULTIPLE IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, I DON'T KNOW, BUT MORE
THAN ONCE.
I LOOKED AT THE AGREEMENT, MADE SURE THOSE THINGS WERE DONE.
I THINK I MAY HAVE CHANGED SOME CLARIFICATIONS LIKE INSTEAD
OF ANY AND ALL, JUST ALL, SOME MINOR CLARIFICATION LANGUAGE,
BUT NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE.
AND WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE APPROVED IN OCTOBER WHEN
OUR FISCAL YEAR -- NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED UP, SO I WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT
UP, BECAUSE I WAS ASKED WHEN YOU WERE OUT OF THE ROOM, MR.
CARLSON, AREN'T WE CONTINUING UNDER AGREEMENT.
ACCORDING TO ARTICLE 3, SUBJECT TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATION
AND EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY PROVIDED HEREIN, THIS AGREEMENT
SHALL COMMENCE ON OCTOBER 1, 2025 AND SHALL EXPIRE ON
SEPTEMBER 30, 2026.
THIS IS A CARRY-OVER FROM THAT TIME.
SO THE PRIOR AGREEMENT HAS THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE.
AND IT SAYS, UNLESS THIS AGREEMENT IS OTHERWISE EARLIER
CANCELED AS PROVIDED HEREIN OR UNLESS EXTENDED BY WRITTEN
AGREEMENT OF THE PARTIES, WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED BECAUSE
THIS AGREEMENT WAS NOT SIGNED AND THE PRIOR AGREEMENT HAS
EXPIRED.
SO WE'RE NOT UNDER AN AGREEMENT.
SO WHEN THEY SAY WE ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE OR WHATEVER,
THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT NOW, I ASSUME THE PARTIES ARE ALL WORKING -- I'M NOT A
PART OF THE FINANCES, SO I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF, BUT
I ASSUME THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE CRA ARE STILL GETTING PAID.
AND I ASSUME THAT WE'RE REIMBURSING WHAT WE NEED TO
REIMBURSE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE INS AND OUTS, BUT WE ARE NAKED WHEN
IT COMES TO AN AGREEMENT.
WE'RE NOT CARRYING OVER THE OLD AGREEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF
THE PRIOR AGREEMENT WHICH EXPIRED.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
YOU ALREADY CONSIDERED DOING A WORKSHOP, WHICH I BELIEVE
WILL BE TO DISCUSS, IF I FOLLOWED THE CONVERSATION, MR.
CARLSON'S DRAFT.
AS YOU KNOW, WE MET WITH ALL OF YOU AS AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS
ANY CHANGES SO WE COULD BRING BACK TO YOU WHATEVER REFLECTED
YOUR WISHES AND THE DESIRE THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE
MEETINGS I ATTENDED, WORKSHOP, WHICH IS NOW GOING TO HAPPEN,
TO GO OVER MR. CARLSON'S CONTRACT IN A WAY THAT YOU COULD
HAVE A WHOLESOME DISCUSSION, WHICH I CANNOT HAVE WITH YOU
ONE ON ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT HIM.
THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TO BE THE REASONS.
BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT, BUT IT
WOULD BE UP AGAIN FOR REVIEW AND RECONSIDERATION AS EARLY AS
AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER BECAUSE OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

EARLIER THAN THAT, IF YOU CHOOSE TO PRESENT ONE TO THE CITY
FOR EARLIER CONSIDERATION.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
11:40:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:40:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID SOME OF THE THINGS EARLIER, BUT AS I
MENTIONED, I THINK STRONGLY WE SHOULD MOVE THIS TO A
WORKSHOP.
IT'S THREE WEEKS AWAY.
IF YOU ALL DECIDE YOU WANT TO APPROVE THIS ONE AS IT IS,
THEN FINE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE MY DRAFT.
I MADE A BUNCH OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON MY EXPERIENCE.
JUST LIKE WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE ALL CAN
PROVIDE IDEAS AND WE CAN ALL NEGOTIATE WHATEVER WE WANT.
JUST TO GO BACK IN HISTORY A LITTLE BIT, WHEN I STARTED IN
2019, THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT THE CRA PAID HALF OF THE HEAD
OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT'S SALARY, WHO HAPPENED TO BE BOB
McDONAUGH AT THE TIME.
AND THERE WASN'T AS FORMAL OF A CRA STRUCTURE.
I NEGOTIATED, AND WE AS CITY COUNCIL AGREED, TO CREATE THE
DIRECTOR POSITION.
SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE EXISTING CONTRACT I
WROTE, AND THEN THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OTHERS EDITED IT.
BUT WE CREATED THE DIRECTOR POSITION WHICH WAS NEW AT THAT

TIME AND WE TRIED TO OUTLINE WHAT THE RULES WOULD BE.
PART OF IT WAS THAT IT SAYS CLEARLY IN THE EXISTING
CONTRACT, THE DIRECTOR REPORTS TO THE CRA BOARD AND IS
REVIEWED ONCE A YEAR AND THEN HAS A DOTTED LINE TO THE MAYOR
FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES.
IN PRACTICE IT HASN'T EXACTLY WORKED THAT WAY.
ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT WE HAD AN INTERIM TIME WHEN
NICOLE AND ALIS IN THE DIRECTOR POSITION ALSO FILLED IN THE
ROLE.
CAUSED CONFUSION WHERE PEOPLE THINK THE DIRECTOR REPORTS TO
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND FORGET THE PEOPLE,
JUST IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE POSITIONS, THAT IS THE
PERCEPTION.
MEMOS ARE SENT OUT, IF YOU LOOK, THEY DON'T COME DIRECTLY TO
US.
THEY FLOW THROUGH OTHER POSITIONS.
WHICH IS OKAY WITH THE CITY BUT NOT WITH THE CRA.
I SIMPLY WANT TO DISCUSS THIS AT THE CRA WORKSHOP SO WE CAN
DISCUSS WHAT OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO PUT IN.
ONE OF THE SIMPLE THINGS THAT IS CONFUSING, WHO DO THE CRA
STAFF MEMBERS REPORT TO?
WHO PROVIDES THE REVIEWS?
IMAGINE IF WE HAVE OUR OWN STAFF AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
REVIEW THEM.
THAT'S THE SITUATION THE DIRECTOR HAS.

SO ONE OF THE SIMPLE THINGS IS TO CLARIFY THAT.
AND TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE CRA DIRECTOR'S POSITION, IT'S NOT
A THREAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT SIMPLY DEFINES THE ROLES.
IT ALSO DEFINES THE PROCESS THE CITY NEEDS TO GO THROUGH TO
APPLY FOR GRANTS BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION IN THE COMMUNITY IS
THE CITY HAS A BACKDOOR TO GET FIRST IN LINE FOR GRANTS.
I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND APPROVE THEM
OR DISCUSS THEM AT THE WORKSHOP.
IF WE APPROVE THIS NOW, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION TO NEGOTIATE WITH US A MONTH FROM NOW.
11:43:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:43:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LIKE IT DON'T LIKE IT, IT'S A SITUATION
FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD RECENTLY IS THERE'S LIKE A CONSPIRACY
GOING ON.
DO YOU SIR, AT ANY TIME THE ADMINISTRATION DIRECT YOU TO DO
ANYTHING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION?
AND HAVE I DISCUSSED THIS WITH YOU AT ALL?
11:43:31AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
11:43:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAVE YOU OR THE ADMINISTRATION EVER
DIRECTED YOU TO DO SOMETHING?
11:43:39AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, SIR.
11:43:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAVE YOU AND THE ADMINISTRATION AT ANY

TIME DID YOU ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOU AS THE CRA?
11:43:48AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, YES.
11:43:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WAS IT ACCOMPLISHED?
11:43:51AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
11:43:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE'S SOME STAFF.
HAS ANYONE IN THE ADMINISTRATION EVER FROM THE MAYOR ON DOWN
ASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY?
11:44:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF A QUESTION IS DIRECTED IF YOU GUYS WANT TO
ANSWER.
THE RECORD REFLECTS EVERYBODY SAID -- [INAUDIBLE]
11:44:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT THE SMARTEST IN THE WORLD.
IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON, I MISSED IT.
I DON'T MISS TOO MUCH.
I ACT LIKE I DO BUT I DON'T.
I'D LIKE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM AND CLEAR THIS DAMN THING.
IT'S DRAWING TIME, MONEY, ENERGY FROM SOMETHING THAT HAS TO
BE DONE, I'M NOT A POLITICIAN.
I JUST HAPPEN TO GET ELECTED.
I WANT TO GET THIS THING DONE.
GET THIS BEHIND THE CRA, BEHIND THIS COUNCIL, WHICH WE PLAY
TWO ROLES, BY THE WAY.
SO WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE COMMITTING SUICIDE BECAUSE WE'RE
PLAYING THIS ROLE AND THIS ROLE AT THE SAME TIME AND YOU
GUYS ARE IN THE MIDDLE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE WHERE YOU GUYS ARE AT.

FROM WHAT I HEAR, THE ONLY ONE -- WORK WITH ABBYE, I ASSUME,
KIND OF THE DIRECTION YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THINGS DONE.
SO YOU WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ENHANCING OR GUIDING THE
SAME THING YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, AM I CORRECT?
11:45:02AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT'S CORRECT.
11:45:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAVE I TALKED WITH YOU ANYTHING REGARDING
THIS?
11:45:06AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, SIR, NOT ABOUT THIS.
11:45:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN
TALK ABOUT, BUT I REALLY JUST WANT -- I'M ONE OF THOSE
PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO GET A CONTRACT IN PLACE BECAUSE I'M
UNCOMFORTABLE NOT HAVING ONE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH US DISCUSSING
BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE I HAVE BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES.
MR. McCRAY, LIKE YOU A LOT.
BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION FOR HIM.
TECHNICALLY, HE HAS SEVEN BOSSES.
I DON'T KNOW WHO IS DOING HIS PERFORMANCE EVALUATION, BUT IT
SHOULD BE ME AND IT SHOULD BE THE SIX PEOPLE WHO SIT AROUND
ME.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS.
DO NOT DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
BUT I DO BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT AND BRING FORWARD SOMETHING
ELSE IF WE WANT TO.

I WOULD ALSO ASK BOARD MEMBER CARLSON TO BRING SOME VERY
SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT HE WISHES CHANGED INSTEAD OF JUST
ASKING US TO LOOK AT IT.
I DO MUCH BETTER WHEN I HAVE VERY DIRECTED THINGS TO LOOK AT
IT.
IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, LOVE FOR YOU TO BRING SPECIFIC
ISSUES AND LANGUAGE SO WE CAN VOTE UP OR DOWN ON IT AT THE
WORKSHOP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY.
11:46:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:46:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OBVIOUSLY, I HAD PREVIOUSLY TOLD STAFF
THAT AS FAR AS ON THE LIST OF PRIORITIES OF THINGS, THIS IS
LOW ON MY PRIORITIES.
MR. SHEPARD, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES?
WHEN DOES THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRE?
11:46:37AM >> IT EXPIRED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 25.
11:46:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALREADY GONE FROM SEPTEMBER.
NOW WE'RE FEBRUARY.
11:46:43AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
FOR VARIOUS REASONS, WE GOT THE NEW DRAFT
VERSION AT THE SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER MEETING, IT WAS THEN, WELL,
WAIT AND WORK IT THROUGH.
IT'S TAKEN UP TO NOW WITH VARIOUS HICCUPS IN THE ROAD AS YOU
KNOW ABOUT, BEFORE WE COULD GET IT BACK HERE IN FRONT OF YOU
AGAIN.

11:47:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY POINT IS BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMUNITY
INTEREST AND SOME OF THE POINTS THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
SAID, I'M KIND OF REVERSING MY PREVIOUS OPINION THAT I HAD
WITH CEDRIC.
WHAT IS THE COST OF JUST WAITING FOR THE WORKSHOP TO WORK
THROUGH THESE THINGS?
ALL SEVEN OF US SITTING THERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T
TALK OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES OF THIS MEETING AMONGST EACH
OTHER.
BUT WITH THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF US, WHETHER WE USE
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S DRAFT OR THE EXISTING CONTRACT AND GO
THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE AND PEOPLE CAN EXPRESS THEIR
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LINES.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER.
A FEW MORE WEEKS TO AT LEAST SHOW POSITIVE INTENT TO THE
FOLKS WHO HAVE SOME CONCERNS I THINK IS JUST NOT THAT BIG OF
AN ASK.
I'M CONSIDERING THAT HAS GONE THROUGH SINCE SEPTEMBER.
ON THE HR POLICIES OF REVIEWS, I'LL LET YOU KNOW, ACTING AS
COUNCIL CHAIR, I ACTUALLY DO THE PERFORMANCE REVIEWS FOR THE
COUNCIL EMPLOYEES.
I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IN OUR CRA POLICIES -- WE
NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IN OUR CRA POLICY OF HOW THE
REPORTING STRUCTURE WORKS AND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

REVIEWS.
I THINK IT IS ONLY ONE PERSON BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY
PROVIDES INPUT TO THAT PERSON ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE.
FOR A FUTURE DATE, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED AND MAKE
SURE WE HAVE THE POLICY IN PLACE BECAUSE IT IS JUST FAIR TO
THE EMPLOYEES AND FAIR TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE THAT
STRUCTURE IN PLACE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE MARCH --
WHAT WAS THE DATE?
MARCH 6 WORKSHOP.
11:48:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
WE HAVE A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
11:48:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:48:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY DISCUSSION?
I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS.
YES, MA'AM.
YES, SIR, PLEASE.
11:48:59AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, BOARD MEMBERS, MARCH
6, BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE RELATED TO
THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND THE HOUSING GRANTS, I DON'T
FORESEE THAT IT WILL BE ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO ALSO DOVETAIL
INTO THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE WORKSHOP FOR THE

SERVICES AGREEMENT, IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
11:49:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY VIEW IS WE'VE HAD THIS, WE'RE PAST
SEPTEMBER, I JUST WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS TO IT.
I THINK BY SEPTEMBER, FIVE OR SIX MONTHS OVER THE DATE.
I VOTED TO CONTINUE THIS BEFORE A NUMBER OF TIMES.
TO ME, BRIDGE TOO FAR.
11:49:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS WILL BE FIVE MONTHS, OCTOBER,
NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, FIVE MONTHS ALREADY.
WHAT A GROUP.
11:49:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A SUGGESTION FOR YOU TO MAKE IT FIRST
ON THE AGENDA.
IF WE NEED MORE TIME FOR THE OTHER ITEMS, SET UP A SEPARATE
DISCUSSION.
11:50:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASK CEDRIC THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.
11:50:09AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THE CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE, IT WILL
BE VERY DIFFICULT.
THE SERVICES AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY.
11:50:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID IF WE MADE THE
SERVICE AGREEMENT FIRST ON THE AGENDA AND LET'S SAY WE DON'T
GET TO YOUR GRANT DISCUSSIONS, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS TO
THAT?
11:50:26AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IMPLICATIONS THAT WE POSTPONE THE GRANTS
RELATED TO THE LARGER SCALE PROJECTS AND WE HAD AN ITEM ON
THE AGENDA THAT WAS RECEIVED AND FILED.

ALSO, STAFF NEEDS DIRECTION RELATED TO HOUSING AND WHAT
THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD.
THOSE ARE TWO ROBUST CONVERSATIONS.
11:50:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE.
GIVE ME PRIORITY A AND B.
11:50:51AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
I WOULD SAY THE GRANTS WOULD BE FIRST.
11:50:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, DID YOU WISH TO
SAY SOMETHING?
11:51:01AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR PROCEDURES GO.
LEGALLY YOU COULDN'T VOTE AT A WORKSHOP.
BUT MOST PLACES DON'T.
SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO NOT CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IF YOU
WERE GOING TO TAKE THIS UP, IF THIS WERE TO PASS SO THAT YOU
DON'T VOTE ON THIS AGREEMENT TODAY, UNLESS YOUR PROCEDURE
ALLOWS YOU TO VOTE ON IT AT A WORKSHOP, YOU'RE TALKING
FURTHER DELAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PROCEDURE ALLOWS.
11:51:25AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:51:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT WOULD APPEAR SO.
11:51:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WORKSHOPS, WE THINK ACTUALLY MOVE THINGS
FORWARD.
11:51:33AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:51:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS LEGISLATIVE.
11:51:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON WAS WAITING.
OKAY.

UNLESS IF WE HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE, WE HAVE A
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
COULD YOU STATE IT AGAIN?
11:51:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 13 TO THE MARCH
6 WORKSHOP.
11:51:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:52:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
11:52:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:52:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
11:52:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
11:52:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
11:52:09AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:52:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:52:15AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION FAILS.
VIERA, MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
11:52:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THE CONTRARY?
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:52:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
[INAUDIBLE]

11:52:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:52:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:52:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:52:46AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:52:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:52:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
ABSENT NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE AND HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSION, IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE AGREEMENTS AND MY VOTE IS
YES.
11:52:56AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:52:59AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, BOARD.
NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD, UNLESS THERE IS FURTHER DISCUSSION
AFTER THE FACT, WHICH I WOULD DISCOURAGE.
GO AHEAD.
11:53:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO MR. McCRAY, IF YOU FELT THAT EVERY
DISCUSSION I'VE HAD WITH YOU LEADING UP TO THIS YOU
INDICATED THAT WE COULD PUT THIS ON THE WORKSHOP.
AND IT WAS ONLY NOW IN FRONT OF THE BOARD THAT YOU DECLARED
THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TIME.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT YOU DID NOT DISCLOSE THAT TO ME
IN ADVANCE.
11:53:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SIR.
NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM 14, APPOINTMENTS.

11:53:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 14.
11:53:41AM >> SECOND.
11:53:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON 15 -- I APOLOGIZE.
I MEAN 16.
I MEAN, 16, ANY DISCUSSION?
15, I'M SORRY.
11:54:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 14 AND 16.
11:54:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK,
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ITEM 15, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I MOTION -- MR. SHEPARD, HOW DO WE REJECT A CANDIDATE?
11:54:33AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE VARIOUS PLACES DO
IT DIFFERENTLY.
IN SOME SITUATIONS, YOU SIMPLY -- SOMEBODY MAKES A
NOMINATION, AND IF IT GETS NO SECOND OR DOESN'T GET UP TO
THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF VOTES, THAT'S A REJECTION.
OTHER CASES, SOMEBODY MAKES THE CASE THEY SHOULD BE
REJECTED, MAKES A MOTION TO REJECT AND THEN VOTED ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A STANDARD PROCEDURE.
11:54:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD PROBABLY SAY JUST TO REJECT.

11:55:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT DIANN
ZEIGLER AS CAC APPOINTMENT.
11:55:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR VIERA AND A SECOND
FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY COMMENTS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE VOTE?
11:55:25AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CLENDENIN BEING ABSENT AT
VOTE.
11:55:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, BOARD.
NEXT, 17.
11:55:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 17, 19 -- SORRY,
17, 20, 21.
11:55:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON 17 SEPARATELY.
11:55:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO THAT.
11:55:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE 17.
11:55:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:55:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:55:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
11:55:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
11:55:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
20, WHO WISHES TO MOVE THAT?

11:56:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MANY NAYS WERE THERE?
11:56:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GO AHEAD.
11:56:08AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO AND
CLENDENIN BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:56:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON 20?
11:56:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
11:56:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:56:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD I JUST GET AN OPINION FROM THE
DISTRICT 5 REPRESENTATIVE BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.
THIS IS 18 AND 19, DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.
11:56:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 20 RIGHT NOW.
11:56:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M SORRY.
11:56:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
HOW ABOUT 21?
ANYONE LIKE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD?
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY?
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION.
AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?
11:57:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NAY.
11:57:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A NAY BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
11:57:15AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH --
11:57:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S REVOTE ON THAT, IF WE MAY SINCE BOARD
MEMBER CLENDENIN WAS IN TRANSITION THERE.
WE HAVE A MOTION -- WHO DID 21?
MANISCALCO.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOR 21.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
11:57:40AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
11:57:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEFORE THE VOTE?
11:57:46AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HEARD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
AS WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, IF THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING
IN COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS
AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HEARD THAT EARLIER
TODAY.
I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND ACKNOWLEDGE WE DID HEAR
THAT AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION OR ENGAGEMENT WITH
THE COMMUNITY AROUND, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS
OWNER.
JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE.
11:58:16AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, BOARD MEMBERS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
11:58:27AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I SAID AYE.
11:58:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY BAD.
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
GREAT, GUYS.
UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER, WE GO TO INFORMATION
REPORTS.
11:58:35AM >> 18 AND 19.
11:58:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY, SORRY.
11:58:43AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP MR. JOHN SCHEFFEL
RELATED TO THE EAST TAMPA WAY FINDING STUDY.
THERE WAS A REQUEST BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG A COUPLE OF MONTHS
AGO AS IT RELATES TO ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH AND THE SURVEY
THAT WAS COMPLETED.
SO HE WILL SHARE SOME RESULTS FROM THAT.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION PULLED UP FOR THE EAST
TAMPA WAY FINDING.
11:59:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU'LL NEED FOR THIS?

11:59:09AM >> IT SHOULD BE LESS THAN THREE MINUTES.
11:59:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GIVE YOU LIKE FOUR.
BOARD MEMBERS, GREAT JOB ON GOING BRISKLY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:59:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JOHN SCHEFFEL, VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF DESIGN FOR
API.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA PROJECT.
I WAS BEFORE YOU IN DECEMBER.
WENT THROUGH THE PROJECTS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAD BEEN DONE
TO DATE, WHICH INCLUDED A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THERE WAS A REQUEST AT THAT MEETING TO DO ADDITIONAL
COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
SO WE DID THAT.
THE FIVE CONCEPTS THAT WE SHOWED TO YOU IN DECEMBER WERE
PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.
I'LL GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.
THIS PAGE, 29 IS THE SURVEY RESULTS.
SO OPTION ONE WAS THE PREFERRED OPTION FROM THE PUBLIC AS
WELL AS FROM THE YBOR SELECTION.
AND THEN THE VERSION THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE CAC MEMBERS,
OPTION FOUR, ACTUALLY CAME IN FIFTH PLACE FROM THE PUBLIC.
ON PAGE 30, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PAGE, BUT THESE
ARE SEVERAL IMPORTANT COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY.

BASICALLY, THE SUMMARY IS ON PAGE 31.
WHAT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS CAME BACK WITH IS HISTORY AND
NATURE OF EAST TAMPA IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE
REFLECTED IN THE SIGNAGE.
OPTIONS ONE AND THREE LOOK THE MOST HISTORIC AND CLASSIC.
MANY COMMENTED POSITIVELY ON THE BRICK RED COLOR OF OPTION
ONE.
THERE WERE BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE COMMENTS THAT OPTION
ONE LOOKS LIKE AN EXTENSION OF YBOR SIGNS.
THERE ARE MANY FAVORABLE COMMENTS ABOUT THE BLACK-AND-WHITE
PHOTOS THAT WERE USED ON THE BANNERS OR BLADE SIGNS.
THEY CAN BE EITHER.
SOME LIKE THE MODERN FEEL OF OPTIONS FOUR AND FIVE WHILE
OTHERS FELT STRONGLY THEY WERE TOO MODERN.
AND THE PATTERNING ON THOSE CONCEPTS ALSO HAD A SIMILAR
MIXED REACTION.
FINALLY, CONCEPT ONE, THIS WAS IMPORTANT, COMMENT FROM ONE
PERSON BUT REALLY REFLECTED A LOT OF THEM.
CONCEPT ONE LOOKS LIKE A NATURAL TRANSITION FROM YBOR AND IS
TIMELESS.
THE NEXT STEPS IS FOR YOU TO VOTE TODAY ON ONE OF THE
OPTIONS THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE FORWARD INTO DESIGN
DEVELOPMENT AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT TO
YOU NEXT MONTH FOR THE MARCH MEETING.
AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL BE MOVING INTO DOCUMENTATION AND

BIDDING.
THE PLAN IS FOR THIS TO BE BID STARTING IN APRIL.
AND THEN IF IT STAYS ON TRACK, IT WILL COME TO YOU FOR A
VOTE FOR A SELECTED FABRICATOR PROBABLY IN JUNE.
THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
12:02:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THE BRANDING ON THIS A GENERIC EAST
TAMPA?
FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS?
12:02:31PM >> CORRECT.
THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL THROUGHOUT ALL OF EAST TAMPA.
12:02:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOMENCLATURE SAYS EAST TAMPA?
THE REASON I DID THAT, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, HIT HARD
ARE THE DISTINCTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.
JACKSON HEIGHTS, BELMONT HEIGHTS.
12:02:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FUND THOSE WITH CRA
DOLLARS.
12:02:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT CAN BE BOTH?
CAN IT BE EAST TAMPA AND JACKSON HEIGHTS?
THAT CAN'T HAPPEN?
SO YOU COULDN'T PUT EAST TAMPA AND BELMONT HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD?
12:03:11PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I'D HAVE TO KNOW HOW YOU ARE
CONCEPTUALIZING.

YOU CAN ONLY SPEND CRA MONEY FROM A SPECIFIC DISTRICT WITHIN
THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT DISTRICT, EVEN IF THE PROJECT
EXTRUDES ONTO THE BOUNDARIES OF ANOTHER DISTRICT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE,
THESE DISTRICTS ABUT UP AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, THERE WOULD
HAVE --
12:03:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EAST TAMPA IS KIND OF A GENERIC AREA.
BUT WITHIN THAT CONFINES OF WHAT WE DEFINE AS EAST TAMPA,
YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
COULDN'T WE USE THE NOMENCLATURE AND IDENTIFY JACKSON
HEIGHTS, SO IT'S WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA CRA AREA --
12:03:51PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNS NOW?
12:03:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:03:54PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
SIGNAGE IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN SPEND
MONEY ON FOR YOUR CRAs, AND CALL THEM WAY FARING SIGNS BUT
HAS TO BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CRA.
12:04:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT CAN BE BRANDED HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS
OR JACKSON HEIGHTS, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE CONFINES OF
THE DEFINED CRA AREA.
12:04:18PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I DO KNOW YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT POLICY, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO APPLY TO THIS ORDINARILY IT APPLIES TO WHEN
YOU'RE PROVIDING MONEY TO PROJECTS.
A RECOGNITION BY THE CRA OR WHATEVER.
12:04:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T OBJECT TO THAT.

SINCE I'VE SAT --
12:04:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS TOLD WE COULDN'T DO THAT.
12:04:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'VE BEEN HIT TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT
IDENTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:04:43PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES, VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT, FIRST
INITIAL PRESENTATION TO THE CAC EAST TAMPA, WE SHARED ON
MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THIS IS WAY FINDING, NOT NEIGHBORHOOD
SIGNAGE.
AND THAT'S HOW WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT.
THAT GOES BACK WITH SOME OF THE HISTORY WITH BOUNDARIES AND
THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY FINDING IF THAT WAS
GOING TO BE AN COMPONENT OF IT.
AND THAT WAS GOING TO TAKE SOME EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION.
THE CAC FELT AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE
FORWARD WITH THE WAY FINDING.
SO WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS WAY FINDING AND NOT
NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNAGE.
12:05:23PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THAT'S THE CRITICAL DIFFERENCE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE, BUT I KNOW
WHAT MAKES IT LEGAL.
12:05:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, WERE YOU FINISHED?
12:05:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THIS
FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

IDENTIFICATION.
TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN I'VE HEARD THAT ABOUT
THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:05:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT THAT IS WAY FINDING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAY FINDING.
I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS ONCE WE GET WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE
ONCE WE CHOOSE A CONCEPT, WE COULD USE CITY DOLLARS TO
REVAMP THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU,
THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS HAVE SEEN BETTER DAYS.
12:06:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WAY FINDING IS BRANDING, TOO.
12:06:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT.
WAY FINDING IS TELLING YOU WHERE TO GO.
12:06:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THESE ARE BRANDED AS GENERICALLY EAST
TAMPA.
12:06:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT THE CRA CAN DO.
12:06:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN INCORPORATE THE NAME OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
MY VISION, IT COULD SAY EAST TAMPA, IF YOU WANT TO GO XYZ,
GO TO FAIR OAKS, ARROW THAT WAY.
12:06:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WAY FINDING IS.
12:06:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SAYING IT COULD SAY FAIR OAKS OR
JACKSON HEIGHTS, BELMONT HEIGHTS.
WE COULD HAVE EAST TAMPA CRA HISTORIC JACKSON HEIGHTS.
12:06:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO WE CAN DO THAT.

12:06:49PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I'M ENVISIONING WHERE YOU COME TO THE SIGN,
2,000 MILES TO RHODE ISLAND AND 2,000 MILES, YOU KNOW, WAY
FINDING.
IN THAT CONTEXT, AS LONG AS IT'S DIRECTIONAL, THE WHOLE
POINT OF WAY FINDING, JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IS THIS
WAY, I SUPPOSE, I CAN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT THAT WAY.
IF IT JUST SAID EAST TAMPA, BLAH, BLAH, NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE
NOT SO MUCH.
12:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FAIR OAKS THIS WAY, CEMETERY THIS WAY.
12:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT NOT BELMONT HEIGHTS THIS WAY AND JACKSON
HEIGHTS THAT WAY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
12:07:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A WAY FINDING SIGN
FOR THAT.
12:07:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:07:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
12:07:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BEFORE I GO TO BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, BOARD
MEMBER YOUNG I BELIEVE HAD QUESTIONS ON THIS.
THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED YOU FIRST.
I APOLOGIZE, MADAM, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE FLOOR.
12:07:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ONE, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING THE
SURVEY AND FOR MORE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND HAVE
INPUT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
ONE THING I DID NOT WANT US TO DO IS MAKE THE DECISION FOR
THE COMMUNITY.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR OPENING THAT BACK UP.
AS I'M LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, AND I AGREE WITH YOU,
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THERE ARE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS
THROUGHOUT EAST TAMPA AREA, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT AS FAR AS THE SPECIFIC
NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CRA CANNOT DO THAT.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:08:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS LONG AS TOTALLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE
CRA.
12:08:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M TOTALLY COOL WITH THAT IF WE'RE ALLOWED
BUT I WAS ALWAYS TOLD WE COULD NOT.
12:08:49PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I'M APPLYING A VISION I HAVEN'T SEEN.
IF THE SIGN SAYS FILL OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS AN ARROW,
THAT'S WAY FINDING.
IF IT JUST SAYS WELCOME TO JACKSON, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,
WHATEVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, MAYBE THAT'S NOT WAY FINDING.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE I'M CERTAIN THE ARROW IS, I'M
NOT CERTAIN IF IT'S NOT.
12:09:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU GET BACK TO US ON THAT?
12:09:14PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I CAN IF THAT IS A CRITICAL FACTOR.
I WILL ABSOLUTELY DO IT.
AGAIN, MOST CRAs HAVE A PROGRAM BY WHICH THEY CONCLUDE WAY

FINDING SIGNS.
12:09:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLACE MAKING.
12:09:26PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
AS A PART OF THE PLACE MAKING ASPECT OF
CRAs.
THAT'S HOW THEY CHARACTERIZE IT.
I SUSPECT YOU WOULD BE FINE IF YOU DID IT IN SOME FORM OR
FASHION.
MAYBE INCLUDES THE WORDS ENTERING WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T KNOW.
IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS NOT A CRA, THERE ARE SIGNS
THAT SAY ENTERING THE COMMUNITY.
SO MAYBE THAT WOULD ALSO WORK.
12:09:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHEPARD, HERE IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES
THEY USED HERE.
IF --
WOLF.
LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THIS WAS PAID FOR BY CRA AND
IT SAID EAST TAMPA CRA WELCOME TO HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
OR EAST TAMPA, WELCOME TO HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
12:10:32PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I THINK I CAN DEFEND IF IT WAS CHALLENGED.
12:10:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO IS GOING TO CHALLENGE IT?
12:10:39PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO AS LAWYERS AND THE
LAWYERS IN THE GROUP CAN SAY WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE WORST
AND EXPECTING THE BEST.
PLANNING FOR THE WORST, I STILL THINK I CAN DEFEND IT, BUT I

CAN'T GUARANTEE IT.
12:10:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU SOUND LIKE A LAWYER.
12:10:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:11:02PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NOT AT THE MOMENT.
12:11:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA NEXT.
12:11:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH MR. CLENDENIN.
LOT OF PRIDE SAYING COMING FROM BELMONT HEIGHTS OR JACKSON
HEIGHTS, YBOR CITY, AND THEY ARE ALL RIGHT THERE.
THE PICTURE THAT WE SAW THERE THE PAINTING ON THE WALL, THAT
BOYS CLUB, BACK 75 YEARS AGO AND PAINTED RIGHT THERE, 21st
STREET COMES AROUND AND IT CUTS AROUND ALL THE WAY FROM EAST
TAMPA TO HEADING WEST, THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
THAT AREA THERE WAS REALLY YBOR CITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT CRA IT IS IN.
IF IT'S IN ANY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CUTTING EDGE I THINK OF A CRA.
I'M NOT SURE.
YOU SEE THE CIGAR FACTORY THERE REMODELED NOW, VERY
BEAUTIFUL AND VERY NICE.
THEY SPENT SOME TIME.
I THINK IT WAS A FATHER AND SON THAT DID THE -- BEEN WORKING
ON IT TEN YEARS OR SO.
SAW THE WATER TOWER AND IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED THE BOYS CLUB
FROM THAT.

WONDERFUL THING THAT THE SIGNS ARE GOING UP.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT AND I THINK CAN DO BOTH.
12:12:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THING
TODAY.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO APPROVE WHICH
CONCEPT WE LIKE, AND I THINK WE CAN ABSOLUTELY -- I DO THINK
THE CONVERSATION AND THE COST AND ALL OF THAT ABOUT THE
INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS, I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO
DO NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE MR. SHEPARD TO COME BACK WITH CLEAR AND
CONCISE.
AND I WANT TO PUT US BACK ON TRACK OF LET'S APPROVE A
CONCEPT TODAY.
12:12:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
12:12:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I AGREE.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE ALREADY SUPPOSED TO AND WE OPENED IT
UP TO GIVE MORE TIME.
BUT I WOULD WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE COME BACK AND ACTUALLY
HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY
WANTS.
I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE COME BACK AND ACTUALLY HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION AND HAVE ACTION TOWARDS THAT.
12:13:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

12:13:14PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SURE.
12:13:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT, AND WHILE
MYSELF AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CITYWIDE, I STILL DEFER A
LOT TO THIS.
I WOULD LIKE TO YOU CHIME IN AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU FEEL.
THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.
UNLESS YOU PICK THE HIDEOUSLY UGLY ONE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
YOU.
12:13:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE SEE THEM ONE MORE TIME AGAIN?
12:13:58PM >> CAN WE PULL THE PRESENTATION UP?
12:14:04PM >> THE PRESENTATION SHEETS THAT YOU HAVE PRINTED OUT, IT'S
GLITCHING LIKE YOU DID IN DECEMBER.
IT'S CORRECT ON THIS PAGE.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THEM?
12:14:25PM >> YES.
12:14:26PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:15:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE CAC RECOMMENDED NUMBER 4.
SAYS VERY CLEARLY, CAC RECOMMENDATION, SELECTION.
12:15:18PM >> WE HAD 256 PUBLIC RESPONSES.
122 CHOSE OPTION ONE.
12:15:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SECOND OPTION ONE IF ANYBODY MAKES THE
MOTION.
12:15:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
12:15:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I THINK IN TERMS OF, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF
HISTORIC COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA, SO IT

GIVES PART OF THE HISTORIC FEEL.
I FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH THE TOP
SELECTION, NOW THAT WE'VE OPENED IT UP AND HAD SOME MORE
RESPONSES.
I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO SELECT OPTION ONE.
12:15:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG TO SELECT OPTION ONE
FOR FURTHER DIRECTION, AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
ANY COMMENTS?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:16:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK IT'S JUST TOO HISTORIC AND TOO CLOSE
TO YBOR, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
BUT IF MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT THAT, THEN -- HONESTLY, I
THINK ALL OF THE REST OF THEM HAVE VERY GOOD POINTS.
PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT LIKING THE BRICK, WHICH IS CHOICE 3.
BUT, I MEAN, I FIND SOMETHING TO LIKE ABOUT ALL OF THEM.
I ACTUALLY DO SEE WHY THE CAC CHOSE 4.
MY ONLY WORRY IS THAT ONE IS WAY TOO CLOSE TO YBOR IN JUST
GLANCING AT IT.
AGAIN, I WOULD ALSO ASK BOARD MEMBER CARLSON TO WEIGH IN,
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HE DOES.
12:17:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF YOU WOULD LIKE, SIR, YOU MAY.
12:17:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK FROM A BRANDING OR IDENTITY POINT OF
VIEW, ANY OF THEM ARE OKAY.

NUMBER ONE DOESN'T SEPARATELY BRAND EAST TAMPA NECESSARILY.
I THINK THAT VOTING AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE CRA, I'M GOING
TO VOTE WITH WHATEVER THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DISTRICT
INCUMBENTS.
IT'S KIND OF SPLIT HERE WHERE IT SAYS THE CAC RECOMMENDED
ONE BUT ONLY 25 PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT.
THE OTHER ONE, 122 PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT.
IT'S A HARD SELECTION FOR YOU.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
IF YOU THINK YOU NEED TO PERSONALLY GET MORE INPUT FROM THE
COMMUNITY, THEN I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DELAY IT FOR A
MONTH.
IF YOU ARE SURE OF YOUR DECISION, THEN I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
12:17:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I'LL GIVE MY THOUGHTS BEFORE WE
VOTE.
NUMBER ONE, I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WHICH
IS I GIVE GREAT DEFERENCE TO DISTRICT 5 COUNCIL MEMBER ON
THIS.
SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT, I ACTUALLY LIKE ONE.
I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM VINTAGE.
PROBABLY THE IMPROPER TERM.
IT CONNOTES AN HISTORICAL VIBE.
EAST TAMPA HAS TONS OF HISTORY.
AGAIN, I DEFER.
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG, IF YOU WISH TO FURTHER DISCUSS OR

CONTINUE WITH YOUR DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS SECONDED BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
AND HEAR FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:18:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY THOUGHTS ON THAT, I'LL GO BACK AND
DEFER.
YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE PLACEMENT AND BLENDING THE
ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
ONE WILL BLEND INTO JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT IS A
CLASSIC STYLE.
IT WILL BLEND INTO EVERYTHING.
IT WON'T REALLY CONFLICT WITH EVEN MODERN BECAUSE IT PLACE
MAKES ITSELF.
BLENDS IN WITH HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE.
WE PUT THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE AROUND THE CEMETERY.
KIND OF STRIKES TO ME.
AND IT WON'T AGE.
SOME OF THE OTHER DESIGNS, PERIOD OF TIME, YOU LOOK AT IT,
10 OR 15 AREAS, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING.
ONE WILL NEVER AGE.
IT'S JUST CLASSIC.
12:19:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD ASK EVERYONE, EXCEPT BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO, I DON'T THINK HAS SPOKEN, BREVITY.
12:19:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION THAT MAY LEAD INTO
HER DECISION.
IN RESEARCH, THERE IS A THING CALLED ADVERSE SELECTION.

I WOULD ASK YOU ALL WHO WERE IN THE ROOM WHEN THE CAC
DISCUSSED THAT, WAS IT OBVIOUS UNANIMOUS DECISION OR DID ONE
OR TWO PEOPLE SWAY IT?
THE SAME THING WITH YOU RECEIVED NUMBER ONE VM YBOR LIKED IT
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YBOR.
122, COULD BE ADVERSE SELECTION THAT VM YBOR DID A BETTER
JOB OF PROMOTING THE SURVEY.
IF YOU JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT REPRESENTATION, IF THERE WAS
TRUE CONSENSUS ON THE CAC, YOU MIGHT SAY THAT'S MORE
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
UNLESS THE SURVEY IS PROBABLY NOT A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE.
IT'S MORE INDICATIVE OF WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT.
ANY FEEDBACK?
12:20:10PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
GREAT QUESTION, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
THE REASON WHY THE CAC SELECTED OPTION FOUR, THE CONSULTANT
ACTUALLY DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF LISTENING.
MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE CAC WERE VERY HEAVILY
INVOLVED IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN PROCESS THAT STARTED
IN 2020-2021, THAT MOTIF OR DESIGN IS KIND OF A PLAY ON WHAT
WAS A PART OF THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND, WHEN WE DID OPEN UP THE SURVEY, IT
WASN'T JUST GERMANE TO THE EAST TAMPA CAC.
IT WENT OUT.
I BELIEVE SOME OF YOU ALL MAY HAVE POTENTIALLY SHARED IT SO

IT WENT ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST SPECIFICALLY IN EAST
TAMPA.
12:20:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT?
12:21:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO, I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A
RUNOFF.
12:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY DON'T WE DO A STRAW VOTE, WHERE EACH OF
US HAVE TO WRITE ONE DOWN.
I'M SORRY, I KNOW WE WANT TO DEFER TO HER, BUT THAT IS A LOT
OF PRESSURE.
12:21:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT THIS, WE MOVE IT FORWARD AND MOVE
ALONG WITH VIGOR, LET'S DO A RAISE OF HANDS.
WHO IS HERE -- WHO SUPPORTS, RAISE YOUR HAND, WHO SUPPORTS
FOUR, ANYONE?
12:21:39PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT EITHER.
12:21:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M ASKING, IF YOU HAD TO PICK RIGHT NOW,
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU PICK FOUR.
12:21:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR EITHER ONE BECAUSE
I'LL VOTE FOR WHATEVER SHE VOTES FOR.
12:21:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO TAKE OUT NUMBER TWO, I DON'T LIKE
THAT.
12:21:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DON'T LIKE TWO OR THREE.
12:22:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER
YOUNG.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO FOR PICKING NUMBER ONE,

DO YOU WISH TO GO FORWARD OR WISH TO FIRST INQUIRE WITH
PEOPLE?
12:22:13PM >> TAKE THE VOTE AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
12:22:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED, MA'AM?
IS THAT GOOD?
12:22:21PM >> I CALL THE QUESTION.
12:22:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:22:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
12:22:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
RESOLVES THE ISSUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM --
12:22:40PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
12:22:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NEXT WE GO TO OUR FINAL ITEM, WHICH IS --
12:22:49PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DO WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT
SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR MR. SHEPARD TO COME BACK FOR
DESIGNATIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE WAY FINDING
SIGNAGE AREA.
12:23:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I SECOND WITH AN AMENDMENT?
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS FOR MR. SHEPARD TO COME BACK AND TELL
US IF IT'S LEGAL TO USE, TO DO NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNS IN THE
SAME MOTIF OR IF IT ONLY APPLIES TO WAY FINDING.

12:23:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
12:23:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:23:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PUT YOUR MIKE ON.
12:23:51PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I'LL LOOK AT IT EVERY WAY.
12:23:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THEN WHEN DO YOU WANT HIM TO COME BACK?
12:24:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HOW MUCH TIME?
12:24:02PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
NOT LONG.
12:24:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW ABOUT E-MAIL AND TAKE IT UP OURSELVES.
12:24:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S FINE.
12:24:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
THANK YOU, BOARD.
BY THE WAY, GUYS, WE'VE GOT 20 MORE MINUTES WITH ONE MORE
ITEM.
THERE IS A MOTION I HAVE TO MAKE THAT I'VE DELAYED FOR TWO
MONTHS.
OH, I KNOW.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD.
I NEED TO LEAVE HERE AROUND 12:40, 12:45, IF I HAVE TO
INTERRUPT TO MAKE MY MOTION, I WILL.
GO AHEAD WITH THE FINAL ONE.
12:24:35PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.

I WILL CALL BACK UP MR. SCHEFFEL RELATED TO ITEM 19 AND JUST
PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE MULTI-DISTRICT WAY FINDING.
12:24:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR THIS ONE?
12:24:47PM >> TRY TO KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
12:24:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
12:24:53PM >> THIS ONE IS NOT ONE YOU ARE VOTING ON.
IT'S INFORMATION.
JOHN SCHEFFEL, VICE PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR OF DESIGN FOR API.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE
MULTI-DISTRICT PROGRAM.
THE FIRST PHASE BEGAN IN 2023.
THE CONCEPT DESIGN WAS VOTED ON BY THE CRA BOARD IN 2024 I
BELIEVE AND THEN WE STARTED THIS CONTINUATION OF THE PROJECT
LAST YEAR.
WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
WE'VE ALREADY MOVED INTO THE DOCUMENTATION PHASE IN
PREPARING DRAWINGS.
IN THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WE HAVE REFINED THE
CONCEPT.
WE HAVE INCORPORATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD BRANDING FROM THE
TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, WHICH OUR FIRM ALSO DEVELOPED IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED THE FULL FAMILY OF THE SIGN TYPES AND FOR
EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAKE UP THE DOWNTOWN, THE

FOUR CRAs.
WE'VE HAD MANY COORDINATION MEETINGS WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS
SUCH AS THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, THE CITY SIGN SHOP, ADA.
PARKS DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO MET WITH THE PART, WITH THEA, WITH F.D.O.T., AND
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HISTORY CENTER,
GASWORX AND WATER STREET JUST TO NAME A FEW.
WE HAVE HAD KICKOFF MEETING, AND WE'VE HAD A FINAL DESIGN
DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH EACH OF THE FOUR CACs.
AND WE HAVE ALSO BEEN GETTING BUDGET NUMBERS FROM THREE
DIFFERENT FABRICATORS SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE
BALLPARK PRICING FOR EACH OF THE FOUR CRAs.
THE NEXT PHASE OF DOCUMENTATION, WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING IN, SO WE'RE DETAILING THE DRAWINGS.
WE ARE FINALIZING THE MESSAGES FOR EACH OF THE SIGNS.
WE ARE PHYSICALLY GOING OUT IN THE FIELD WITH OUR
CONSULTANT, FLORIDA DESIGN CONSULTANTS.
ROB ROSNER, AND WE ARE VERIFYING EACH LOCATION, AND HIS
GROUP IS PREPARING THE PERMIT DRAWINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR
THE FOUNDATIONS.
AFTER THAT, WILL BE BID COORDINATION.
IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE DOCUMENTATION WILL BE FINISHED IN
MARCH, AND THAT BIDDING PROCESS WILL START THEN AND GO OUT
TO BID IN APRIL.
AND THEN ONCE THE BIDS COME IN, IT'S EXPECTED, AS WITH EAST

TAMPA, THAT WOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE BOARD IN JUNE AND MOVE
TO CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.
HERE IS THE LOOK AND FEEL FOR EACH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE
DOWNTOWN CORE.
WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WE HAVE THE RIVER ARTS DISTRICT.
WE HAVE WATER STREET.
THEY ARE DOING THEIR OWN PEDESTRIAN DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, SO
THAT IS NOT A PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
WE HAVE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, TAMPA HEIGHTS, AND CENTRAL
PARK.
WE HAVE REFINED ALL THE DESTINATIONS OF THE NOMENCLATURE
THAT WILL BE ON THE SIGNS.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CHANGES HERE ALONG THE WAY.
BUT THESE ALL SEEM TO BE PRETTY LOCKED IN AT THIS POINT.
AND WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING, AS I SAID, ALL THE MESSAGES AND
ALL THE LOCATIONS FOR EACH OF THE SIGNS.
SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN
DEVELOPING TO DATE, WHICH IS IN THE NEXT PHASE, THE
DOCUMENTATION PHASE.
AND BALLPARK NUMBERS FROM THE -- ACTUALLY UPDATED NUMBERS
FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT OUR RANGE IS --
BETWEEN THE FOUR CRAs, WE HAVE A BUDGET OF ONE MILLION
NINETY THOUSAND, AND WE'RE COMING IN BETWEEN 925,000 TO
1.2 MILLION BETWEEN THE THREE VENDORS.
AND THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS?
12:29:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED.
WE ARE BRANDING THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CRAs.
THAT'S EXACTLY -- TRANSLATE THIS CONCEPT TO THE EAST TAMPA
CRA.
FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PLACEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTIFICATION.
12:29:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COULD YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES?
TO THE NAMING OF THE PLACES.
ONE CAUGHT MY EYE, IF WE CAN POP IT BACK UP.
IT IS NOT -- OH, WHERE IS IT?
NOW I LOST IT.
BASICALLY, DESTINATION NAMES, YOU HAD ONE THAT SAID SKATE
PARK.
IT IS NOT THE SKATE PARK.
IT IS CALLED THE BRO BOWL.
IT IS ACTUALLY VERY HISTORIC.
12:29:58PM >> WE ACTUALLY HAD THE BRO BOWL AND WE WERE TOLD BY PARKS
RECENTLY THAT IS THE INCORRECT NAME.
THAT IT IS SKATE PARK AT PERRY HARVEY SENIOR PARK.
12:30:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, IT'S BRO BOWL.
THAT'S NOT EVEN DEBATABLE BECAUSE IT IS FAMOUS IN THE SKATE
WORLD.
WE'LL HAVE TO -- LIKE, PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW IT AS THAT.
AGAIN, WE'RE NATIONALLY FAMOUS FOR THAT PARK.

12:30:24PM >> GOOGLE MAPS IS WHAT IT SAYS.
WE WERE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT FROM PARKS.
12:30:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A RENAMING FOR THE
BRO BOWL, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD.
BECAUSE THAT IS HISTORIC AND VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT
COMMUNITY.
I THINK BRO BOWL AT PERRY HARVEY SENIOR PARK IS PERFECTLY
FINE.
BUT SKATE PARK IS NOT OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN CHANGE IN THE CRA OR
IF I HAVE TO DO THAT FOR CITY COUNCIL.
ANY THOUGHTS?
12:31:01PM >> THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION.
WE'LL CHANGE IT.
12:31:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
I'LL DO SOMETHING DURING CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT'S
ACTUALLY CHANGED TO ITS CORRECT NAME.
THANK YOU.
12:31:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THAT WAS A HORRIBLE POLITICAL FIGHT BY
THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE THAT WOULD
COST A MILLION FOUR, THE LAST ADMINISTRATION SPENT ALMOST A
MILLION FOUR FIGHTING THE SKATEBOARDERS FROM THE BRO BOWL.
IT IS THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVED OUT MARTIN LUTHER KING'S
DREAM IN THE '70s WHERE KIDS OF ALL RACES GOT TO

SKATEBOARD TOGETHER.
BECAUSE IT HAD GRAFFITI ON IT, THE LAST MAYOR DIDN'T LIKE
IT.
WE COULD HAVE USED THE MONEY TO SAVE JACKSON HOUSE BACK
THEN.
IT'S A REAL SHAME.
BY THE WAY, IT WAS RIPPED OUT AND MOVED, WHICH WAS ALSO A
HUGE MISTAKE.
THAT SKATEBOARD PARK WAS IN THE TONY HAWK VIDEO GAME.
PLAYED BY KIDS ALL AROUND THE WORLD.
KIDS IN CHINA WERE SKATING ONLINE IN TAMPA, AND FOR SOME
REASON SOMEBODY DECIDED TO MOVE THAT.
CAN YOU GO THREE SLIDES AHEAD?
NEVER MIND.
12:32:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
THANK YOU, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:13PM >> THANK YOU.
12:32:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GUESS I'LL GO.
THANK YOU.
QUICK MOTION.
I MENTIONED THIS SOME TIME BEFORE TO THE CRA BOARD AND I'VE
TALKED ABOUT IT WITH SOME FOLKS, INCLUDING YVETTE LEWIS WHO
WAS HERE AMONG OTHERS.

WHAT I'M THINKING OF, FOLKS, IS TO HAVE STAFF REPORT TO US
ON THE FEASIBILITY WITHIN OUR DIFFERENT CRAs, BECAUSE
CRAs ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT BLIGHT, RIGHT, ABOUT BLIGHT.
AND TO HAVE ONE POSITION DEDICATED IN EACH ONE OF OUR CRAs
TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROMOTES CIVIL RIGHTS OR EQUITY OR
YOU COULD CALL IT HUMAN DIGNITY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
IT, WITHIN EACH OF OUR CRA BOARDS.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS ORGANIZATIONS OUT HERE THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
WE HEARD FROM ONE TODAY, THE NAACP.
BUT FOR STAFF TO COME BACK TO US AND REPORT ON THE
FEASIBILITY OF THAT SO THAT EACH ONE OF OUR CRA BOARDS HAVE
REPRESENTATION IN THAT REGARD.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
12:33:13PM >> SECOND.
12:33:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WE HAVE A MOTION -- MY ONLY REQUEST.
12:33:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I NEED A DATE.
12:33:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A, YOU TO FIND A DATE.
AND FOR IT TO COME BACK, I ASSUME YOUR WIFE IS ALWAYS YOUR
DATE.
PLEASE GIVE US A DATE.
12:33:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
MAY.
LET'S DO MAY.
12:33:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY 14.
I HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR VIERA.

A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY THOUGHTS?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MY SECOND AND LAST MOTION IS THAT TOMORROW SOME OF US WILL
BE GOING TO KAREN CLAY MICHAEL PHILLIPS FOUNDATION.
SHE'S LOOKING AT FUNDING THROUGH THAT FOUNDATION DISABILITY
ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT FOR PARKS.
THEREFORE, I'M ASKING OUR CRA THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION
TO MEET WITH MS. CLAY TO IDENTIFY A PARK WHERE THEY CAN WORK
WITH HER TO FUND DISABILITY FRIENDLY EQUIPMENT.
WE CAN HAVE THAT ALSO COME BACK IN MAY.
THAT'S MY MOTION.
12:34:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM CHAIR VIERA.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
12:34:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, BOARD.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, ANYTHING, SIR?
12:34:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICKLY, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT -- MY

BUSINESS IS IDENTITY AND LOGOS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE CREATED A TAMPA CRA LOGO TO SEPARATELY
DEFINE IT AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE EVERYWHERE.
THERE IS CONFUSION WHEN CRA STAFF ARE E-MAILING AND
CORRESPONDING THAT THEY ARE STILL ON CITY OF TAMPA E-MAIL
ADDRESSES.
I TALKED TO THE CIO BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY TO PUT IT
ON HIS RADAR.
HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATIONS YET.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO ASK THE CIO'S OFFICE TO WORK ON A
PLAN TO BE PRESENTED APRIL 9 TO CREATE A TAMPA CRA.ORG
WEBSITE OR LANDING PAGE, A TAMPA CRA.ORG E-MAIL ADDRESSES,
AND SIGNATURES FOR CRA STAFF AND ELECTRONIC TAMPA CRA
LETTERHEAD TO BE USED BY CRA STAFF.
12:35:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
12:35:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE LAST ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
TO ASK CRA STAFF TO ADDRESS MEMOS TO THE CRA BOARD AND NOT
TO GO THROUGH CITY STAFF OTHER THAN THE CLERK.
IT GIVES THE PUBLIC THE IMPRESSION THAT CRA STAFF REPORT TO
SOMEBODY ELSE WHEN THEY REPORT TO US.

12:35:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ANY DISCUSSION?
12:35:56PM >> CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN?
12:35:57PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEMOS FROM CRA STAFF,
THEY SAY THEY GO THROUGH OTHER CITY STAFF.
THEY SHOULD COME DIRECTLY TO US BECAUSE THE CRA DIRECTOR
REPORTS TO US.
IT GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CRA DIRECTOR REPORTS TO
SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE CRA BOARD.
ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT THE CRA DIRECTOR SEND US MEMOS
DIRECTLY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH SOMEBODY ELSE.
12:36:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I ASKED THE CRA DIRECTOR THAT TODAY.
HE SAID, NO, NEVER DISCUSSED -- ONLY WITH US.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:36:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MEMOS, IT SAYS THROUGH
OTHER PEOPLE AT THE CITY.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS THEY REPORT TO US SO
WOULD COME TO US DIRECTLY.
12:36:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
NOTHING FURTHER, SIR?
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN?
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG?

12:36:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST GOT CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT I
CAN DO THIS, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO
RESCIND MY VOTE IN REGARD TO THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE FOR
EAST TAMPA -- MOTION TO RECONSIDER A VOTE FOR THE EAST TAMPA
WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.
THE REASON I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE JUST LOOKING BACK, WITH
THE CAC SELECTION, WE KNOW THAT THE CAC, THEY ARE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS.
THEY LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
ONCE WE OPEN UP THE SURVEY, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE OPENING UP
THE SURVEY, COULD HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY
LIVE IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA.
WE KNOW CAC MEMBERS ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND LOOKING AT THE CRA, THE ACTION PLAN FOR THE AREA,
LOOKING AT THE SIGNAGE FOR NUMBER FOUR, I THINK FITS WITH
THE CRA ACTION PLAN FOR EAST TAMPA.
I WOULD LIKE TO RESCIND MY ORIGINAL VOTE AND GO WITH THE CAC
-- RECONSIDER.
I HAVE TO MAKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE.
12:38:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THAT ITEM.
BOARD MEMBER YOUNG, SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
GO AHEAD.

12:38:17PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
NOW IT'S BACK ON THE FLOOR AS IF IT HADN'T
BEEN CONSIDERED.
12:38:21PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH THE
CAC SELECTION.
12:38:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
12:38:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WHICH I BELIEVE WAS CONCEPT NUMBER 4.
12:38:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER YOUNG TO GO
WITH NUMBER FOUR.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING ELSE, MADAM?
12:38:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S ALL.
12:38:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA?
WE HAVE A MOTION BY -- YES, MA'AM.
12:39:00PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:39:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
2026 IS WHAT HE MEANT.
BECAUSE I GOT CONFUSED AS WELL.
HE MEANT THE JUNE MEETING.
12:39:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
SEE YOU ALL TONIGHT AT 5.
THANK YOU.

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