TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2026, 5:01 P.M.

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5:05:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, PLEASE.
AND IT'S AFTER DARK IN TAMPA CITY HALL.
5:05:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:05:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:05:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:05:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
5:05:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
5:05:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:05:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:05:17PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:05:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
LET'S DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING FIRST.
STEPHANIE, YOU WANT TO HELP US CLEAR THE AGENDA?
5:05:27PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE SOME ITEMS TO CLEAR ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ 25-118.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE FOR THIS ITEM.
IF GRANTED, THIS ITEM WOULD BE CONTINUED TO MAY 14, 2026.
STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THERE IS SPACE ON THE AGENDA.
THE 180 DAYS WILL NEED TO BE WAIVED AND THE APPLICANT HAS
AGREED TO RENOTICE AS WELL.
5:05:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO WAIVE THE 180 DAYS?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MAY 14.
5:06:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT NUMBER?
5:06:12PM >> 8.
5:06:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FILE REZ-25-118
WITH THE PROVISION THAT IT WILL BE RENOTICED.
5:06:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
5:06:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY, TO MAY 14, 2026 AT 5:01 P.M.,
TAMPA CITY HALL, EAST KENNEDY -- 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:06:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BINGO.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
5:06:43PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ-25-86.
THIS APPLICATION IS A MISNOTICE AND WILL NOT BE HEARD THIS
EVENING AND NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
5:06:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 9 FROM
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
5:07:05PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM 10, REZ-25-121.
THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN DUE TO THE DENIAL OF
TA/CPA 24-15 ON JANUARY 29, 2026.
THEREFORE, THE ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD THIS EVENING.
I'D LIKE TO READ THE CODE SECTION 27-150 FOR THE RECORD.
THAT IS A REZONING APPLICATION THAT IS CONTINGENT ON A
REQUEST TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHALL BE DEEMED
WITHDRAWN AND OF NO FURTHER EFFECT WHERE THE REQUESTED
AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DENIED BY CITY
COUNCIL, NO FURTHER PROCEEDING OF ACTION BY COUNCIL SHALL BE

REQUIRED.
5:07:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 10 FROM COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBER, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME NEW FACES
OUT THERE TONIGHT, THE ACOUSTICS IN THIS ROOM ARE CRAZY
GOOD.
EVEN WHEN YOU ARE WHISPERING OR TALKING, THE VOICES
REVERBERATE AND BOUNCE HERE.
IT'S DISTRACTING TO US AND MUFFLES OUT THE SPEAKER.
IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT, IF YOU GO THROUGH THE GLASS
DOORS AND OUT INTO THE LOBBY OUT THERE, YOU CAN SPEAK AND
THEN COME BACK IN.
WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF EVERYBODY WOULD REMAIN SILENT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU TAKE THE GAVEL.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP.
ONE, I HAVE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE FEBRUARY 17, 2026 AGENDA
A CLOSED SESSION TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 17, 2026 AT
5:01 P.M. IN THE 8th FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM OR OLD CITY
HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD IN ORDER TO DISCUSS A
SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATION IN THE CASE OF LOPEZ VERSUS THE CITY

WITH THE FOLLOWING PERSONS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE CLOSED
SESSION.
MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY MARTY
SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY SCOTT STEADY, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
TOYIN AINA-HARGRETT.
CHRISTOPHER BENTLEY, ERIN JACKSON, AND CERTIFIED COURT
REPORT SHERYL WESTFALL.
5:09:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
5:09:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
SECONDLY, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE AGENDA ON NUMEROUS
OCCASIONS TRYING TO DO STUFF AND WE SAW THIS WITH MIRASOL,
THAT EVENING, WE HAD A COUPLE OF EASY EUCLIDEAN CASES THAT
THE PEOPLE HAD TO SIT FOR FIVE AND SIX HOURS TO BE HEARD FOR
FIVE MINUTES.
WE THOUGHT A LOT AND COORDINATED A LOT WITH STAFF, THAT IF
WE COULD MOVE 3, 4, 6, 7 TO THE FRONT AND PUT LIKE A
45-MINUTE TIME CERTAIN STOP.
WHATEVER WE CAN GET TO IN 45 MINUTES, WE GET TO.
WHAT WE DON'T, WE DON'T.
WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE ORDER OF THE SCHEDULE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN NOT MAKING --

TORTURING PEOPLE.
IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR THE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS SO THE PEOPLE HERE FOR THE BIG SHOW WOULD BE ABLE
TO COME IN AND FILL THE SEATS AND LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE CASE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE 3, 4, 6, 7 TO NUMBER
1, WITH A 45-MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
45 MINUTES, WE'RE DONE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE THAT
PAST THE OTHER THREE CASES.
5:10:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- FROM
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ANY THOUGHTS?
YES, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:10:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY VOTE NO.
IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD IT THE OPPOSITE WHERE THE BIG ONE WAS
AFTER AND I TRIED TO MOVE IT EARLIER AND WE REJECTED THAT.
JUST TO BE PREDICTABLE, I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT THE WAY
IT IS.
5:10:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID TRY TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY PEOPLE
AS POSSIBLE.
5:10:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, AND WE HEARD ABOUT IT.
ANYONE ELSE?
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?

5:11:01PM >> NAY.
5:11:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
5-2.
SORRY.
5:11:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST ANNOUNCE THE VOTE.
5:11:15PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
5:11:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.
GO AHEAD AND DO A VOICE VOTE.
5:11:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
5:11:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:11:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:11:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:11:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
5:11:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:11:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:11:32PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND CARLSON
VOTING NO.
5:11:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, IF YOU
WOULD SET A 45-MINUTE TIMER SO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S EXPIRED.
EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP IT BRIEF AND SHORT.
I BELIEVE THESE ARE KIND OF LIKE WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES, BUT
I THINK THEY ARE NO-BRAINER KIND OF CASES.
5:11:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I THINK WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS CLOCK TIME FOR THE 45
MINUTES.
SHE STILL HAS TO SET THE TIMER FOR THE INDIVIDUALS.

5:11:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEEP ME AWARE OF WHEN 45 MINUTES IS UP.
5:12:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
6:00.
5:12:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE ON.
5:12:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I JUST WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TONIGHT ON THE RULES OF DECORUM
FOR THE CONDUCT OF TODAY'S MEETING.
I'M GOING TO CITE TO SOME SECTIONS OF THE COUNCIL'S RULES OF
PROCEDURE.
NOW, WHEN THE ITEMS ARE CALLED UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING, YOU
WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER IN
THE AGENDA, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TALK FOR THREE MINUTES PER
PERSON, AND IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, PLEASE
APPROACH WITH THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
THOSE PEOPLE ON YOUR SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WHO ARE GOING TO
WAIVE THEIR THREE MINUTES WILL GIVE THE SPEAKER AN
ADDITIONAL MINUTE, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PRESENT.
SO WHEN I CALL THEIR NAME, THAT WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR
PRESENCE THAT THEY ARE WAIVING THEIR TIME.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED,
PLEASE, TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS AND
GRAPHICS.

THE KIND OF SOUNDS WOULD BE THE KINDS OF CLAPPING OR
SNAPPING OR THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ALSO DISRUPTIVE TO THE
PROCEEDING AS THE CHAIR HAD STATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
MEETING, THE SOUNDS DO TRAVEL VERY WELL.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER FOR THE REMAINDER OF TONIGHT'S
MEETING.
NOW, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, ALTHOUGH LET ME DO SAY WITH A
PUBLIC HEARING, LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC.
YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKERS.
SO YOU CAN ENGAGE THEM.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT YOU CAN'T.
ELICITING TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE WHEN THEY ARE AT THE
LECTERN, YOU CERTAINLY CAN.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION TO CITY
COUNCIL, AND ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO BRING UP THAT WAS
BROUGHT TO ATTENTION RECENTLY, AND IT CALLED FOR ME BRINGING
TO THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION AS WELL AS REMINDING CITY COUNCIL
THAT THERE IS A RULE THAT DOES APPLY FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL
HEARINGS.

AND I'D LIKE TO READ IT TO YOU TONIGHT, AND PERHAPS YOU
HAVEN'T HEARD IT BEFORE, BUT IT HAS BEEN IN THE RULES FOR
QUITE A LONG TIME.
I BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND
THE APPLICANTS ABOUT THIS RULE.
IT'S RULE 6-G UNDER QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
IT SAYS AS FOLLOWS: ALL PERSONS WHO PROVIDE TESTIMONY,
INFORMATION, OR OPINION REGARDING A PETITION IN A
QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER PENDING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MUST
DISCLOSE IN A DIRECT, INDIRECT BUSINESS OR PERSONAL INTEREST
BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE PETITIONER OR APPLICANT, WHICH IS
REQUESTING ACTION.
THE INFORMATION SHALL NOT BE USED TO DENY THE PETITION OR
MATTER, BUT GOES TO THE WEIGHT OF THE EVIDENCE, INFORMATION,
OR OPINION PROVIDED.
AND JUST ANOTHER REMINDER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WHEN WE
COME TO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, YOU WILL BE ASKED TO BE
SWORN IN.
AND THE COUNCIL MADE THAT DECISION OVER 20 YEARS AGO TO
REQUIRE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE TESTIMONY DURING QUASI-JUDICIAL
MATTERS TO BE SWORN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:15:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT BEING SAID, LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 3.
REMEMBER -- SORRY, I NEED A MOTION TO OPEN 5:01 PUBLIC

HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT PLANS ON SPEAKING, IF YOU ARE
PLANNING ON SPEAKING, STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE
SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
5:16:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
STAFF ON ITEM NUMBER 3.
REMEMBER, SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY.
DON'T SAY ANY MORE, DON'T SAY ANY LESS.
5:16:28PM >> GOOD EVENING, STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 IS REZ-26-05, REQUEST TO REZONE 4001
SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE FROM RS 60 TO RS 50.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:16:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING.
5:16:51PM >> GOOD EVENING.
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THIS SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THE
BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVACUATION ZONE B.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED HERE OUTLINED

IN PURPLE.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
USES.
MOVING FURTHER WEST IS THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY AND TO THE WEST
OF THAT ARE COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH,
AGAIN, IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE AND IT IS REPRESENTED WITH THE
RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION, WHICH DOES SURROUND THE SUBJECT
SITE AND FURTHER TO THE WEST WHERE THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE
IS A COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION AND COMMUNITY
COMMERCIAL 35 DESIGNATION.
THIS PORTION OF SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE, EXCLUDING THE SITE,
HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 5.9 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND VISION
BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WOULD PROVIDE HOUSING IN A
SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH IS
SUPPORTED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES RELATED TO HOUSING THE
CITY'S POPULATION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ENSURES
AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER
OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 10
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:18:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOLD STAR.
THANK YOU.
5:18:21PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
FEEL START WITH THE SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.
AND THIS IS SOUTH LYNWOOD.
THIS IS WEST TAMBAY.
FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS A CORRECTION TO THE FRONTAGE ON THE
STAFF REPORT.
ON PAGE 2, THE LOT WIDTH FOR SOUTH LYNWOOD SHOULD BE 113
FEET, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE.
AND IT WAS SHOWN AS 120 FEET ON THE STAFF REPORT.
THE WIDTH ALONG TAMBAY IS 115 AND THE DEPTH OF THE LOT IS
124.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
HERE IS TAMBAY.
HERE IS LYNWOOD.
THIS IS THE SELMON CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
THE SURROUNDING AREA DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS CHARACTERIZED BY
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, WEST, AND
EAST WITH RS 60 ZONING SURROUNDING THE AREA.
NEXT WE'LL PUT UP THE CONFORMING MAP.

YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PARCEL HERE AND THEN THIS IS
LYNWOOD.
THIS IS TAMBAY.
THIS IS DRESSEL.
KNIGHT, GREENWOOD HERE.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN AREA OF OUR ANALYSIS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF THE LYNWOOD SUBDIVISION LOTS ONE
AND FIVE, BLOCK TEN, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY PLATTED IN 1924.
THE AREA OF ANALYSIS INCLUDES 351 PARCELS, 167 PARCELS, OR
48% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER.
AND 184 PARCELS OR 52% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF
59.99 FEET OR LESS.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE,
INCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE, HAS A TOTAL OF TWO PARCELS THAT
ARE -- OR 67% OF THE PARCELS HAVING A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
GREATER AND ONE PARCEL OR 33% HAVING A WIDTH OF 54.99 FEET
OR LESS.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH DREXEL
AVENUE BETWEEN WEST TAMBAY AVENUE AND WEST KNIGHTS AVENUE
CONTAINS SIX PARCELS WITH ONE PARCEL OR 17% HAVING A WIDTH
RANGING FROM 45 FEET TO 49.99 FEET.
ONE PARCEL OR 17% HAVING A WIDTH RANGING FROM 55 TO 59.99
FEET AND FOUR PARCELS OR 66% HAVING A WIDTH RANGING FROM 50
FEET TO 54.99 FEET.
THE BLOCK FACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE

BETWEEN WEST KNIGHTS AVENUE AND WEST WALLCRAFT AVENUE
CONTAIN THREE PARCELS ORIENTED TOWARD SOUTH LYNWOOD AVENUE.
ALL THREE PARCELS OR 100% HAVE A WIDTH RANGING FROM 55 FEET
TO 59.99 FEET.
STAFF HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE OVERALL STUDY AREA THAT 48% OF
THE PARCELS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR
GREATER.
AND 52% HAVE A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
WHILE THERE ARE A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES WITHIN THE VICINITY
OF THE SUBJECT SITE, STAFF FOUND THE PROPOSED REQUEST TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND THE
OVERALL STUDY AREA.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE IS NO SITE PLAN OR
ELEVATIONS.
NEXT I'LL SHOW SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM SOUTH LYNWOOD.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON LYNWOOD.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH AT THE CORNER OF LYNWOOD
AND KNIGHTS.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS TAMBAY FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON TAMBAY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF
SOUTH LYNWOOD.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON WEST TAMBAY AVENUE, AND THAT'S
LOOKING TOWARDS THE SUBJECT SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING WEST AT SOUTH LYNWOOD AND WEST KNIGHTS.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DOWN SOUTH DREXEL AVENUE
TOWARDS WEST KNIGHTS AVENUE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:22:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT.
5:22:59PM >> HELLO.
5:23:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
SAY YOUR NAME PLEASE.
5:23:07PM >> STEPHEN SEATON.
5:23:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT?
5:23:11PM >> YES, I AM.
5:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE CASE?
5:23:14PM >> NO.
5:23:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
I WAS ASKING IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEM.
I'M NOT HEARING ANY, SO ASSUMING YOU DON'T NEED REBUTTAL.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO AND SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU READY TO READ THIS ONE?
5:23:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE FILE REZ-26-05, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001 SOUTH
LYNWOOD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TO
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:24:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
5:24:16PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026 AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:24:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NUMBER 4.
5:24:37PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
GOOD EVENING.

STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ-26-15, REQUEST TO REZONE 312
NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE FROM RS 50 TO RM 18.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:24:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
5:24:53PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT, THE
WESTSHORE PALMS NEIGHBORHOOD IN EVACUATION ZONE B.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WHICH IS OUTLINED
HERE IN PURPLE.
THE SURROUNDING SITE -- THE SURROUNDING AREA DOES HAVE A MIX
OF USES WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND MULTIFAMILY
THROUGHOUT, AND THERE ARE COMMERCIAL USES MOVING FURTHER
SOUTH ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A TRANSIT
EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED HERE, AND IT IS REPRESENTED WITH
THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION WHICH DOES SURROUND THE
SUBJECT SITE ON THE NORTH, EAST, WEST, AND SOUTH OF THE
SITE, AND THIS DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL 35.
THE RM 18 ZONING DISTRICT CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THE R-20
DESIGNATION.
THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD SUPPORT COMPATIBLE INFILL
DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA PLANNED FOR 20 DWELLING UNITS PER
ACRE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED

REZONING SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ENVISIONED IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WHILE THE BLOCK IS PRIMARILY ZONED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY, THE RM
18 AND RM 24 ZONING DISTRICTS ARE ABUNDANT WITH FIVE
REZONINGS THROUGH THE DISTRICTS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD CONTINUE THE TREND TOWARDS
HOUSING AT SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITIES THAN THE EXISTING
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES MULTIFAMILY AND ATTACHED
SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY WITH
FRONT DOORS ORIENTED TOWARD NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND
SIDEWALK.
PART OF THE SITE DESIGN, APPLICANT SHOULD ENSURE SIDEWALKS
ARE PROVIDED OR CONTRIBUTE TO THE SIDEWALK IN LIEU FEE.
THIS REQUEST SUPPORTS THE BROADER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS
FOR ACCOMMODATING POPULATION GROWTH THROUGH A COMPACT URBAN
FORM AND ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT NEAR TRANSIT AND
EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
NEW HOUSING OPTIONS WOULD BE IN PROXIMITY TO THE WESTSHORE
BUSINESS CENTER AND WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING AREA, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ENCOURAGED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY
PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

5:26:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, NEXT.
5:26:58PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
STEPHANIE POPE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
FIRST PUT UP A SURVEY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE, AND THE FRONTAGE
ON THE LOT IS 83 FEET AND THE DEPTH IS 138 FEET.
5:27:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEPHANIE, CAN YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND?
WOULD YOU MIND POPPING OUT THE DOOR AND ASK THEM TO TAKE THE
CONVERSATION FARTHER AWAY FROM THE DOOR?
THANK YOU.
5:27:26PM >>STEPHANIE POPE:
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE
AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED.
THIS IS NORTH MANHATTAN.
THIS IS FIG.
THIS IS 275.
HERE IS LOIS, AND HERE IS KENNEDY.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH
MANHATTAN AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST FIG STREET.
SURROUNDING AREA DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS COMPRISED OF
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLINGS TO THE NORTH, WEST, AND
SOUTH.
WITH RS 50 ZONING AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND SEMI
DETACHED USE TO THE EAST.
THE PROPERTY ZONED PD RIGHT THERE.

AS YOU MOVE EAST TOWARDS LOIS AVENUE, FROM THE SUBJECT
PROPERTY, THERE ARE SEVERAL REZONINGS TO MULTIFAMILY USES,
WHICH HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST DECADE.
AND THERE ARE A FEW RM 18 ALONG NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE AS
WELL.
IF APPROVED, THE ZONING MUST ADHERE TO THE PERMISSIBLE USES
IN THE RM 18 ZONING DISTRICT.
SINCE THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THERE IS NO SITE PLAN OR
ELEVATIONS.
NEXT I'LL SHOW SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM MANHATTAN.
THIS IS EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN FIG EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS LOIS.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH DOWN HUBERT AVENUE FROM FIG, AND THOSE
ARE THE MORE RECENT ONES THAT WERE DEVELOPED.
THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE ON NORTH MANHATTAN.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH DOWN NORTH MANHATTAN.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON YOUR LEFT.
AND THEN THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:29:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
SORRY, APPLICANT.
I'M TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.
5:29:30PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK.
JAMES LASCARA, APPLICANT OF THE REZONING.
I'M ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS CONSISTENT
ACROSS THE BOARD.
WE HAVE NO WAIVERS AS IT IS EUCLIDEAN ZONING.
THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD PROJECT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN
THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
LIKE TO SHOW A FEW GRAPHICS.
I'LL SKIP THE GRAPHICS NOW IN THE SAKE OF TIME.
CAN COME BACK, IF NEEDED.
JUST WITHIN ONE BLOCK RADIUS OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THERE ARE
NUMEROUS SITES THAT ARE EITHER ZONED FOR NOW OR CURRENTLY IN
USE AS MULTIUNIT DEVELOPMENT EACH OF WHICH CONSISTS OF TWO
OR MORE UNITS AS EITHER SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED,
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, OR MULTIUNIT USE, MULTIFAMILY USE.
THE SAME TYPE OF USE, RM 18 ZONING WHICH WE ARE REQUESTING.
ADDITIONALLY, EXCITED TO SHARE THAT ON THE SITE WE HAVE THE
UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE A PRIME SPECIMEN OF LIVE OAK
GRAND TREE.
SHOW A PHOTO OF THAT.

48-INCH DIAMETER BREAST HEIGHT HEALTHY GRAND OAK.
ALWAYS SPECIAL WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO PRESERVE TAMPA'S CHARACTER
WITH CONSIDERATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT
THOUGHTFUL PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES LIKE PRESERVING
HEALTHY GRAND OAK.
ANY REMOVAL OF A HEALTHY TREE LIKE THIS WOULD BE A WAIVER ON
ANY ZONING APPLICATION, WHICH WE ARE NOT REQUESTING.
STRAIGHTFORWARD CONCEPT.
OTHER SIMILAR PROJECTS APPROVED AND BUILT WITHIN PROXIMITY
OF THE SITE, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE CORRIDOR ON MANHATTAN,
WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS ON, FROM 275 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
KENNEDY.
THIS PROPOSED REZONING IS IMPORTANT FOR TAMPA'S GROWTH IN
HOUSING.
IT ADDRESSES THE INCREASING DEMAND FOR HOUSING OPTIONS NEAR
OUR URBAN CORE.
SOLUTIONS LIKE THIS ONE ARE HOW THE MISSING MIDDLE GETS
BUILT BY US TOGETHER AS OUR CITY'S POPULATION CONTINUES TO
GROW AND MORE PEOPLE CALL TAMPA HOME, HAVING A MIX OF
HOUSING TYPES TO INCLUDE MULTIUNIT DEVELOPMENT DONE IN A WAY
THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS HELPS ENSURE
WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES, YOUNG
PROFESSIONALS AND SENIORS.
IN CONCLUSION, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS
REZONING.

THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND COMMUNITY
ALIGNMENT PROVIDING NEW AVAILABLE HOUSING UNITS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
5:31:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION?
5:31:40PM >> YES, SIR.
5:31:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK
TO THIS PRESENTATION?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
5:31:50PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE FILE REZ-26-15, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 312 NORTH
MANHATTAN AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM 18,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:32:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG,
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
5:32:27PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026 AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:32:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMIND STAFF AND APPLICANT, WE ARE ON
TRACK TO GET TO 6:00.
NEXT, ITEM NUMBER 6.
5:32:48PM >> GOOD EVENING.
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REZ-25-125, REQUEST TO REZONE 5215, 5301 AND 5311 WEST TYSON
AVENUE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, RETAIL
SALES, INCLUDES SPECIFICALLY SPECIAL GOODS, CONVENIENCE
GOODS, SHOPPERS GOODS AND MARINA USE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:33:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SPEED SPEAKER.
5:33:23PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
THE SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THE
GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH ASSOCIATION,
THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND EVACUEES ZONE A.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS IN TRANSITION, RATTLESNAKE POINT HAS
HISTORICALLY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH INDUSTRIAL USES AND SOME OF
THOSE USES DO REMAIN TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE LOCATED HERE AND HERE.

BUT PRIMARILY THE SUBJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED WITH MULTIFAMILY
AND COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED
HERE.
IT IS REPRESENTED WITH THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION.
WHICH IS THE PREDOMINANT FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON
RATTLESNAKE POINT WITH THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES BEING LOCATED
IN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THE SUBJECT SITE HAS AN APPROVED PD UNDER REZ 23-69 WHICH
INCLUDES BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH PHASES OF THE OVERALL
PROJECT.
THIS PD ONLY APPLIES TO THE SOUTH PHASE WHICH IS APPROVED
FOR 76 MULTIFAMILY UNITS TO CHANGE THE UNIT TYPE TO
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
THE PROPOSED 76 UNITS IS BELOW THE MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT CAN
BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION.
OVER THE YEARS, RATTLESNAKE POINT, RATTLESNAKE WATERFRONT
AREA HAS BEEN TRANSITIONING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO A
MIXTURE OF INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND COMMERCIAL USES.
SPECIFIC POLICY GUIDANCE IS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
PROVIDES FOR ITEMS THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED THROUGH A PD
REZONING.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PD AND NOT EXPANDING THE
INDUSTRIAL USES WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICIES

8.11.1 THROUGH 8.11.3.
THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD HAS GENERAL NOTE 3 REGARDING
PUBLIC ACCESS ADJACENT TO WATERFRONT AND TRANSPORTATION NOTE
NUMBER 3 THAT IS RELATING TO THE FIRST BUILDING PERMIT,
MITIGATION PAYMENT WILL BE PAID TO THE TRANSPORTATION
DIVISION FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICIES 8.11.4 THROUGH
8.11.6.
TYPICALLY WITHIN MIXED USE DISTRICTS, MAIN ENTRANCES OF
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED ARE TO BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE
ADJACENT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM THE BUILDINGS TO A
SIDEWALK ALONG THE WATERFRONT AREA AND ALONG WEST TYSON
AVENUE ARE PROVIDED.
UNITS IN BUILDINGS 6 THROUGH 14 FACE AN INTERNAL COURTYARD
AND UNITS IN BUILDINGS 1 THROUGH 5 AND 15 THROUGH 19 FACE AN
INTERNAL SIDEWALK WITH MINIMAL PEDESTRIAN CONFLICTS MEETING
THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES RELATED TO HOUSING THE
CITY'S POPULATION WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ENSURES
AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS
OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
THE REZONING ALSO ADDRESSES LAND USE POLICY 8.11.7 BY
PROVIDING GENERAL NOTE 8 STATING PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF
BUILDING PERMITS, THE DEVELOPER SHALL BE REQUIRED TO

MITIGATE ITS IMPACT ON SHELTER SPACE.
OVERALL, THE REZONING ADDRESSES POLICIES IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT ON RATTLESNAKE
POINT AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:36:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE.
NEXT.
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
NEXT.
I DARE YOU TO SPEAK AT THAT RATE.
5:36:38PM >> FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
WE START WITH AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE. YOU CAN SEE
FROM THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED IS COMPRISED OF TWO
PARCELS LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST TYSON AVENUE,
SURROUNDING ZONING INCLUDES INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO THE NORTH,
INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, AND THERE IS PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT ZONING TO THE WEST, WHICH IS APPROVED FOR
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
RETAIL SALES AS WELL AS A RESTAURANT USE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES EXISTING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING

ALLOWS FOR 401 RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY UNITS, RETAIL
SALES AND MARINA USE.
NEXT, WE HAVE SITE PLAN.
UNDER THIS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SITE
PLAN WITH NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE NORTH PHASE ONLY WITH A
CHANGE PROPOSED TO THE SOUTH PHASE FROM 76 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS TO 76 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN UNIT COUNT OR SITE ACCESS.
WHILE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 50 FEET REMAINS UNCHANGED, THE
NUMBER OF STORIES PROPOSED INCREASES FROM TWO TO FOUR
STORIES.
A CHANGE IN DWELLING UNIT TYPE DOES NOT RESULT -- DOES
RESULT IN A HIGHER PARKING REQUIREMENT, FROM 141 SPACES
CURRENTLY APPROVED TO THE SITE -- FOR THE SITE TO 171
SPACES.
WITH A TOTAL OF 229 SPACES PROVIDED THROUGH TWO-CAR GARAGES
AS WELL AS SURFACE PARKING.
THE PROPOSED DOG PARK PREVIOUSLY APPROVED HAS BEEN RELOCATED
TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SUBJECT SITE, AMENITY AREA
HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.
THE SITE STILL PROVIDES PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AS WELL AS
VEHICULAR ACCESS TO WEST TYSON AVENUE.
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
NEXT WE HAVE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THESE IS 50
FEET.
WE ALSO HAVE A REAR ELEVATION.
EACH OF THE UNITS WILL HAVE A SECOND STORY BALCONY JUST
ABOVE THE TWO-CAR GARAGE.
SIDE ELEVATION.
ANOTHER SIDE ELEVATION.
ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS APPLICATION HAS ONE WAIVER
REQUEST, WHICH IS TO SECTION 27-282.
REQUEST TO ALLOW FRONT DOORS OF LOTS -- I WANT TO NOTE THIS
SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
WAIVER REQUEST TO SECTION 27-282.
THIS IS TO ALLOW FRONT DOORS OF LOTS 1 THROUGH 20 TO FACE
THE SIDE YARD ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
WE HAVE SOME PICTURES TO SHOW NEXT.
THE PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS FROM WEST TYSON AVENUE.
THE NORTH PHASE IS CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED WITH THE
RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY UNITS.
ANOTHER VIEW IN THE FOREGROUND IS THE SOUTH PHASE PROPOSED
FOR THE TOWNHOMES.
EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE FEDERAL OWNED PROPERTY.
THIS IS AN ARMORY RESERVE SITE.
LOOKING A LITTLE FURTHER EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, YOU

CAN SEE THERE IS MULTIPLE FAMILY.
WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, PLANNED DEVELOPED ZONING PROPERTY
IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE A LOT OF
INDUSTRIAL USES.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
PETITION.
WE FIND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF
TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS
APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE
COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS
OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:41:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
5:41:19PM >> GOOD EVENING.
ELISE BATSEL, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, 401 EAST JACKSON
STREET.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DO WANT TO CORRECT ONE THING ON THE RECORD, AND THAT IS
THAT CHRIS MENTIONED TWO CAR GARAGES.
WHILE THERE ARE TWO CAR GARAGES, WE ARE ONLY COUNTING THEM
AS ONE SPACE FOR PARKING.

WE'VE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT THE GARAGES.
THAT'S 18 BY 20 FOR ONE CAR.
WITH THAT, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
5:41:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:41:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S TOWNHOMES NOW.
WHAT WAS IT PREVIOUSLY?
5:41:56PM >> CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION REAL QUICK?
CAN YOU PUT UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
IT'S LITERALLY GOING FROM MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS TO
TOWNHOMES.
SAME NUMBER, SAME DENSITY, SAME NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS.
THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE.
THANK YOU.
5:42:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYBODY IN THE
PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
5:42:23PM >> HI.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
I HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH ALL THE PROJECTS ON
RATTLESNAKE POINT GOING BACK TO 2019.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY ASKED
FOR A CHANGE IN THE FLU, THE FUTURE LAND USE.
IT WAS APPROVED AND SO WAS A PD.
NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT THERE AND YET TODAY THEY ARE HERE

ASKING FOR A NEW PD AND POINTING THAT OUT AS AN EXAMPLE OF
HOW THAT HAPPENS.
I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, HOWEVER,
THANK YOU.
5:42:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
NO.
OKAY.
HEARING NO OTHERS, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM -- SORRY, WOULD YOU LIKE A REBUTTAL?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE?
5:43:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 5215, 5301, 5311 WEST TYSON AVENUE IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, RETAIL SALES, SPECIALTY GOODS,
CONVENIENCE GOODS, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND MARINA, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:43:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
5:43:51PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026 AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:44:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 7.
5:44:10PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 7 IS REZ-25-97, REQUEST TO REZONE 3105 EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE, 3001, 3003, 3004, 3007 AND 3010 EAST 15th
AVENUE FROM RM 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
PREVIOUSLY BEFORE YOU DECEMBER 11, 2025.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AT THAT HEARING IN
RESPONSE TO ITEMS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS ON THE SITE
PLAN AT THAT TIME.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:44:53PM >>EMILY PHELAN:
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
SINCE THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED ON, I WILL MAKE IT
BRIEF.
THIS IS THE -- AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS A MIX OF USES.
IT'S ALONG EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, WHICH IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS
CORRIDOR AND HAS A MIX OF PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC, MULTIFAMILY,
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND ATTACHED USES.
AS A REMINDER, TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE FUTURE
EAST TAMPA INNOVATION CENTER AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS NORTH
OF I-4.
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
EVERYTHING IN PINK IS UNDER THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION AND THE RED IS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
DESIGNATION.
THE REQUEST IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING AREA AND IS EAST OF -- ALONG EAST COLUMBUS
DRIVE, WHICH HAS A MIX OF USES, RESIDENTIAL AND
NONRESIDENTIAL, AND ALIGNS WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION THAT
ENCOURAGES TRANSITIONAL DENSITIES BETWEEN SINGLE-FAMILY
NEIGHBORHOODS AND MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL
USES WHILE MAINTAINING SCALE AND CHARACTER COMPATIBLE WITH
THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REVISED PD PROPOSES WALK-UP UNITS ORIENTED TOWARD EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE AND YALE STREET.
SITE PLAN INCLUDES FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS WITH SHADE TREES AND
STREET FURNITURE ALONG EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND YALE STREET
SUPPORTING AN ACTIVE AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED STREETSCAPE.
WHILE THE REVISED SITE PLAN INCLUDES ADDITIONAL MARKED

CROSSWALKS TO IMPROVE INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION,
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF NOTES THAT OPPORTUNITIES REMAIN TO
FURTHER STRENGTHEN PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS ALONG THE SOUTHERN
EDGE OF THE SITE AND WITHIN THE PARKING AREA.
THE PARKING IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE AND IS
ADEQUATELY SCREENED THROUGH BUILDING PLACEMENT, LANDSCAPING,
AND BUFFERING TO REDUCE VISUAL IMPACT ALONG EAST COLUMBUS
DRIVE.
WITH THE ELEMENTS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDOR
POLICIES AND BROADER DESIGN AND COMPATIBILITY.
THE PROPOSED PD IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE
ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UNDER THE CMU 35 AND CC-35
FLU DESIGNATIONS.
AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:47:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
5:47:11PM >> FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
WE'LL START WITH AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS OUTLINED IN RED.
IT IS COMPRISED OF SIX PARCELS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE
EAST COLUMBUS --
5:47:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CCTV, CAN YOU GET THIS UP ON THE COUNCIL

MONITORS?
THANK YOU.
5:47:28PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
COMPRISED OF SIX PARCELS LOCATED ON
THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE ALSO LOCATED WEST OF
YALE STREET.
SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED TO THE NORTH AND EAST BY
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS ZONED RM 16.
THERE IS A VACANT PARCEL TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST OF THE
SUBJECT SITE THAT IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE HOME OF THE EAST
TAMPA INNOVATION CENTER.
ALSO SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS CG ZONING AS WELL AS
INTERSTATE 4.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF A JOINT PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND JOB TRAINING,
VOCATIONAL EDUCATION SERVICES THROUGH THE FUTURE EAST TAMPA
INNOVATION CENTER.
THE SUBJECT SITE DOES HAVE TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS,
CMU 35 AND CC-35.
BOTH DESIGNATIONS DO ALLOW FOR MEDIUM INTENSITY, DENSITY,
HORIZONTAL, AND VERTICAL MIXED USE AND SINGLE USE COMMERCIAL
AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 128,904 SQUARE FEET OF
DEVELOPMENT AT F.A.R. OF 1.27.
AND HAS ENTERED INTO A BONUS AGREEMENT WHICH DOES REQUIRE
10% OF THE UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE UNITS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING 118 UNITS WITH ALL 100% BEING
AFFORDABLE UNITS.
NEXT, WE DO HAVE A SITE PLAN.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS 2.4 ACRES IN AREA.
THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE ALONG
EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND 200 FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE ALONG
YALE STREET.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES NORTH 31st STREET, A
PORTION OF EAST 15th AVENUE, AND A 10-FOOT ALLEY
RIGHT-OF-WAY ALL WHICH WERE APPROVED FOR VACATION BY THE
CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 8, 2026.
THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN IS PROPOSING A
FIVE-STORY RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED
OF 118 TOTAL UNITS.
THE SITE PROVIDES INGRESS AND EGRESS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER
ON EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ALONG
YALE STREET.
THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING SIDEWALK RUNNING EAST TO
WEST ALONG EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
AND PROPOSES A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK RUNNING NORTH TO SOUTH
ALONG YALE STREET.
FOLLOWING THE DECEMBER 11, 2025, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE
APPLICANT UPDATED THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN TO ADDRESS THE
FOLLOWING CONCERNS CITY COUNCIL HAD.
INTEGRATE THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY

DEVELOPMENT INTO AN EXISTING SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD
THROUGH WALKABLE CONNECTIONS AND GROUND FLOOR UNITS.
THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING PROVIDES A TOTAL OF 8
WALK-UP UNITS.
THEY ARE GROUND LEVEL.
THERE ARE FIVE ALONG EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND THREE ALONG
YALE STREET.
THE SECOND ITEM WAS TO PROVIDE MORE STREET-LEVEL ACTIVATION
THROUGH ADDITIONAL SITE FEATURES, ALONG EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE
TO MAKE THE SITE FEEL MORE URBAN.
LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A PROPOSED
LINEAR PARK ALONG THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS RUNS EAST TO WEST.
THE LINEAR PARK INCLUDES PARK BENCHES AS WELL AS A BIKE
RACK.
IT ALSO CONNECTS INTO THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK ALONG YALE
STREET AS WELL AS THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG EAST COLUMBUS
DRIVE.
NEXT WE HAVE ELEVATIONS TO SHOW.
HERE WE HAVE THE WEST ELEVATION.
BELOW IT IS THE NORTH ELEVATION.
BACK UP A LITTLE MORE HERE.
WE HAVE THE EAST ELEVATION.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THE EAST SIDE OF THE WEST WING AT THE
TOP OF THE PAGE HERE.

WE HAVE THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
AND THEN THERE IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF SECTION SHOWING HOW
THE BUILDING WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN BY UNIT TYPE.
THE MAX HEIGHT FOR THE FIVE-STORY BUILDING IS 67 FEET.
THERE ARE, IN FACT, FIVE WAIVERS WITH THIS APPLICATION, AND
I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE FOR YOU.
5:51:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD IF YOU HAVE
IT.
ZOOM IN.
5:52:06PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FIRST WAIVER 27-283 TO ALLOW 19-FOOT
BY 41-FOOT LOADING SPACE IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED 12-FOOT BY
60-FOOT LOADING SPACE.
WAIVER TWO, SECTION 27-283, REDUCE REQUIRED NUMBER OF
OVERALL PARKING SPACES FROM 198 REQUIRED TO 122.
THIS WOULD BE A 38% REDUCTION.
THIRD WAIVER, 27-284, TO REDUCE THE PERCENTAGE OF RETENTION
QUALITY TREES PRESERVED FOR NON-WOODED SITE FROM 50% TO 30%.
WAIVER FOUR IS TO SECTION 27-284, THIS IS A REQUEST TO
REMOVE FOUR NON-HAZARD GRAND TREES, AND THEY LIST THOSE
THERE.
I'M HAPPY TO READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD, IF NEEDED.
ALSO, WAIVER FIVE IS SECTION 27-284.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPED AREA FOR
MULTIPLE FAMILY WITH VEHICULAR USE AREA FROM 350 SQUARE FEET
PER UNIT TO 136 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT.

THIS IS SUBJECT TO LANDSCAPE IN LIEU FEES AT THE TIME OF
PERMITTING.
NEXT WE HAVE PHOTOS TO PROVIDE.
FIRST WE HAVE OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THIS IS FROM EAST
COLUMBUS DRIVE.
ADDITIONAL PHOTO.
THIS IS FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE LOOKING UP
TOWARDS EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
NEXT WE'RE LOOKING NORTH FROM EAST 15th AVENUE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH 31st STREET.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SOUTHEAST.
SOUTH.
THE BUILDING IN THE PHOTO THERE IS PART OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
I-4 IN THE DISTANCE THERE.
LOOKING WEST, THIS IS THE FUTURE ETEC SITE.
LOOKING EAST ON 15th.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON 15th.
NORTH ON NORTH 31st STREET.
AND LOOKING SOUTH ON NORTH 31st STREET.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS

APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE
COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED ON THE REVISION SHEET.
THESE REVISIONS WILL NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUES OF
TRANSPORTATION'S INCONSISTENT FINDING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:54:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT, PLEASE?
5:54:55PM >> GOOD EVENING.
CAN YOU PUT THE PRESENTATION UP?
I'LL GO VERY QUICKLY AND FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
5:54:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER THE PROJECT.
STATE YOUR NAME.
5:55:03PM >> ELISE BATSEL, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER, 401 EAST JACKSON.
AS A REMINDER, THERE ARE MANY UNIQUE SITE CONSTRAINTS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK.
IT DID NECESSITATE CHANGES TO TWO OF THE WAIVERS.
AGAIN, WE STILL COMPLY AND EXCEED THE LIVE LOCAL ACT
STANDARDS THAT YOU APPLY TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
WE DID FOUR REVISIONS.
THE WALKUPS, THE LINEAR PARK, WE ALSO ADDED AN OUTDOOR
ENTERTAINMENT AREA AND 17 ADDITIONAL TREES.
SO THIS IS JUST THE NEW -- YOU CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL
WALK-UP UNITS THERE ALONG COLUMBUS AND THE LINEAR PARK IS IN

THE FOREFRONT OF THAT, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE AN ACTUAL
RENDERED INTERPRETATION OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
SPECIFICALLY, THE EIGHT INDIVIDUAL WALK-UP UNITS ARE GOING
TO BE ALONG YALE AND EAST COLUMBUS, THE LINEAR PARK IS GOING
TO INCLUDE BENCHES, OUTDOOR BIKE RACK AND WIDE MEANDERING
SIDEWALKS THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING.
IN ADDITION, THERE IS A VERY LARGE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT
AREA AND EVENT SPACE THAT'S INCLUDED FOR USE BY THE
RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, THE ADDITION OF ADDITIONAL TREES.
I'LL STOP THERE AND ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS HERE, BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE
A FEW QUESTIONS.
5:56:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRATULATIONS.
IT'S A MUCH NICER LOOKING PROJECT.
5:56:32PM >> I AGREE TOTALLY.
5:56:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
5:56:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FOR THE WALK-UP UNITS, I COULDN'T NECESSARILY
TELL ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT CAN THEY ONLY BE ACCESSED FROM
THE FRONT?
5:56:45PM >> YEAH.
SO IF WE WERE TO CREATE A -- WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH
VARIOUS ITERATIONS OF HOW FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT
WE COULD CREATE THOSE WALK-UP UNITS AND INTEGRATE THEM WITH
THE STREET AS YOU WANTED BUT ALSO KEEP THOSE RESIDENTS SAFE.

AND THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU PUT A HALL BEHIND THERE AND IT IS
CUT OFF AND A DEAD END HALL, THAT CREATES A REALLY UNSAFE
ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO GO OUT.
I DO HAVE -- IT'S HUNDRED AND SOMETHING STEPS TO GET ALL THE
WAY FROM PARKING AROUND TO THOSE UNITS.
5:57:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
AND THEN JUST -- BECAUSE I WOULD BE UPSET WITH MYSELF IF I
DID NOT SAY THIS.
I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR MAKING THE CHANGES THAT YOU DID,
AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, BUT I
WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT MENTION THAT IT GIVES ME
EXTREME HEARTBURN TO HAVE TO REMOVE FOUR NON-HAZARDOUS
TREES, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW MUCH CONVERSATION WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TREES AND WE SEE HOW CLOSE THIS
IS TO THE HIGHWAY.
THE TREE SERVES A PURPOSE.
ONE, NOT ONLY TO HELP US BREATHE, BUT ALSO TO HELP TO TAKE
SOME OF THE CAR EMISSIONS THAT COME OFF OF THE HIGHWAY.
I UNDERSTAND THE SITE CONSTRAINTS, BUT I JUST -- I REALLY
ENCOURAGE ANYONE, ARCHITECT, DEVELOPER, WHATEVER, TO JUST
REALLY START TO THINK ABOUT HOW -- DEVELOPMENT IS FINE, BUT
HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT SO THAT WE CAN TRY OUR BEST TO SAVE
OUR TREES.
I JUST HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SO WE KNOW.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR GOING BACK AND CHANGING IT,
MAKING THE CHANGES THAT YOU DID.
5:58:30PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
WE CONSIDERED FLIPPING THE BUILDING IN RESPONSE TO TAKING
OUT THE TREES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEN, WITH THE PROXIMITY TO I-4, YOU HAVE ALL
YOUR RESIDENTS UP AGAINST I-4, WHICH YOU DON'T WANT.
AND THEN THE PROJECT DOESN'T MEET THOSE OVERLAY DISTRICT
REQUIREMENTS OF FRONTING ON THE STREET.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THAT BIG 44-INCH TREE IF WE
FLIPPED IT, WHICH WE ARE SAVING NOW.
SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY GIVING UP CERTAIN TREES TO TAKE OUT
OTHER TREES.
THIS SEEMED TO BE FROM A CUMULATIVE PERSPECTIVE IN THE BEST
TOTAL OVERALL INTEREST.
5:59:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:59:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY I DON'T LOVE THE CRAPE
MYRTLES.
I KNOW IT'S A VISUAL BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING FOR SHADE
TREES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, SO FOLKS CAN FEEL
COMFORTABLE.
I DO APPRECIATE THE ADDITION OF A BIKE RACK BUT PUTTING IT
UNDER SO IT IS PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS, TALKING A LOT TO
THE BIKE COMMUNITY ABOUT STANDARDIZATION OF BIKE RACKS, AND
THAT IS THE ONE ASK I KEEP GETTING OVER AND OVER.

JUST A THOUGHT THERE.
BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WALK-UP UNITS.
I THINK OTHER PEOPLE SPOKE BEFORE ABOUT SOME FOLKS WILL LIKE
THAT AS BEING A SEPARATE SECTION.
SO I THINK IT WILL ALL EVEN OUT IN THE END.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE CHANGES AND JUST SOME SHADE TREES.
5:59:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE UNITS.
WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PART OF A LARGER PROJECT.
IT'S SOMEPLACE THAT EVERYONE WILL BE PROUD OF TO LIVE IN.
GOOD JOB.
THANK YOU.
6:00:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOUR LIGHT IS ON.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
6:00:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, SIR.
I'M LOOKING AT IT, SAME THING STATED EARLIER, CRAPE MYRTLES
LOOK BEAUTIFUL BUT TREES ONE THING, WE HAVE TO HAVE IN THE
CITY.
IF WE KEEP DOING THIS, ONE AT A TIME, BY THE TIME, 500 OF
THEM, WE AIN'T MADE NO PROGRESS AT ALL.
6:00:23PM >> CERTAINLY.
I'M MAKING A NOTE TO TAKE BACK TO THE TEAM FOR SHADE --
6:00:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU CAN COME BACK AND GET A COUPLE OF

TYPE ONE SHADE TREES IN THE FRONT.
6:00:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MAKE IT PART OF MY MOTION.
6:00:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
ANYTHING ELSE?
WE'RE GOOD?
I'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
6:00:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT LOOKS LIKE NATURAL RESOURCES HAS SOMETHING
TO SAY ABOUT TREES.
6:01:03PM >> ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
YOU CAN'T PUT SHADE TREES IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THERE ARE
OVERHEAD WIRES ALONG THE FRONT.
6:01:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT SOMETHING MORE UNIQUE AND A LITTLE
MORE SHADY THAN A CRAPE MYRTLE?
COULD YOU WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON SOMETHING BETTER THAN A
CRAPE MYRTLE SO IT CAN PROVIDE SHADE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IF
POSSIBLE.
6:01:33PM >> WE'LL WORK TOGETHER AND COME BACK.
6:01:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, LET
ME KNOW.
6:01:45PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT IS FINE, HOUSING IS GREAT, BUT WE'VE
GOT TO TRY HARDER TO SAVE THESE TREES.
I'M SORRY, THEY'LL PLANT SAPLINGS AND WE'LL ALL BE DEAD

BEFORE THE TREES ARE AS BIG AS THE ONES THEY ARE TAKING
DOWN, EXCEPT CHARLIE, OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY.
I THOUGHT THAT ONE WITHOUT TAKING.
I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS THE DISTRICT THAT HAS NOW
SURPASSED SOUTH TAMPA IN HAVING LOST THE MOST TREES.
ALSO POINT OUT STUDY AFTER STUDY SHOWS THAT SHADE IN AREAS
THAT HAVE LOWER INCOME ARE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYPLACE
ELSE AND THAT THE AMOUNT OF TREES IS OFTEN, LACK OF TREES IS
VERY MUCH ASSOCIATED WITH LOWER INCOME.
AND THE EFFECTS, THE INTERSTATE IS RIGHT THERE.
THE RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS THAT THOSE TREES PREVENT IS
PRICELESS.
THERE IS NOTHING TO REPLACE THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO TRY HARDER TO PRESERVE THE TREES WE HAVE.
BECAUSE THE ONE THING NOBODY CAN BUY -- NOBODY -- IS TIME.
AND THOSE OLD TREES REPRESENT TIME.
NOT IN FAVOR BECAUSE OF THAT.
I JUST THINK THAT WITH CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS WE CAN
ACCOMPLISH ALL OUR GOALS.
AND THAT AREA IN THE FRONT WHERE THEY SHOWED THE CRAPE
MYRTLES, SORRY, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BOILING HOT SUN.
YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE BY THERE AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE
ANYBODY OUT THERE BECAUSE TO HAVE WALKABILITY, YOU HAVE TO
HAVE SHADE AND SIDEWALKS.
BOTH.

THANK YOU.
6:03:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REBUT?
6:03:28PM >> ONLY TO PUT ON THE RECORD -- ELISE BATSEL, ONLY TO PUT ON
THE RECORD THAT WE'LL WORK WITH NATURAL RESOURCES BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE
CREATIVE.
I KNOW THAT CHRIS HAD ONE ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT HE
WANTED TO ASK US ABOUT.
I'M -- HE'S GOING TO STATE IT BETTER THAN I AM.
6:03:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
6:03:48PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
WE WANT TO CORRECT ONE ITEM ON THE REVISION SHEET.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE F.A.R. LISTED AT 1.30, WE WANT TO
CORRECT THAT TO REFLECT 1.27.
THAT IS THE FIRST ITEM.
AND THEN WE'RE JUST ASKING THE APPLICANT TO INCLUDE A NOTE
ON THE SITE PLAN STATING THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE THE BENCHES
AND BIKE RACK THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE LINEAR PARK, AND THAT
THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ENHANCEMENTS SHOWN ON THE
OVERALL SITE PLAN.
6:04:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL HAVE THAT ON THE AMENDED.
6:04:21PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON THE EXACT
LANGUAGE.

THEY ARE HAPPY TO COMMIT TO THAT.
6:04:24PM >> YES, WE'RE HAPPY TO COMMIT TO THAT.
6:04:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S ALL?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:04:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND AND HEAR
THE CONCERNS LOUD AND CLEAR.
BECAUSE WE HAVE HEARD THIS IN DECEMBER, THERE WERE A LOT OF
CONDITIONS WITH THE SITE PLAN, MAINLY THAT THERE WAS A GIANT
STORMWATER DEVICE THAT WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE LOT, SO WE
COULDN'T BUILD TO I-4, AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE COULDN'T FLIP IT TO THE OTHER -- THE
APPLICANT COULDN'T FLIP IT TO THE OTHER STREET BECAUSE THERE
WAS AN INDENTION OR ISSUE THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
I DON'T LIKE TO SAY THE S WORD BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
BUT A DEVIATION UNDER THE GROUND, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT
A BUILDING ABOVE THAT.
I'M READING FILE REZ 25-79, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY --
OH, I'M SORRY.
25-97.
I DO THAT.
NUMBERS BACKWARDS SOMETIMES.
SO THANK YOU.
AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 3105 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE AND 3001, 3003, 3004,
3007 AND 3010 EAST 15th AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, AND PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:06:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
--
6:06:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND INCLUDING THE REVISED REVISION SHEET AND
THE WORKING WITH NATURAL RESOURCES BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND
READING ON IMPROVING THE TREES THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN,
MAYBE NOT TYPE ONE, MAYBE TYPE TWO.
THANK YOU.
6:06:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHO I HEARD FIRST.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
6:06:34PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026,
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:06:52PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
6:06:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
IF YOU ARE NOT HERE FOR ITEMS 1, 2, AND 5, GET OUT.
NO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
THANK YOU FOR COMING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME BUT YOU CAN'T STAY HERE.
WE NEED TO MAKE ROOM FOR EVERYBODY THAT WILL COME IN 1, 2,
5.
WE HAVE PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A REAL TEN-MINUTE BREAK.
WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 6:17, READY TO HEAR ITEM NUMBER 1.
6:17, READY TO HEAR ITEM 1.
[RECESS]
6:20:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE ARRIVED TO TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL, WELCOME.
WE'LL START WITH NUMBER 1, ITEM NUMBER 1 ON THE AGENDA.
IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR
RIGHT HAND -- OH, WE HAVE TO DO ROLL CALL FIRST.

6:21:09PM >> MIRANDA?
MANISCALCO?
6:21:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
6:21:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
6:21:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
6:21:13PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
6:21:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
6:21:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
6:21:16PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
NOW STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
6:21:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
LET THE RECORD SHOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS RETURNED TO
COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
MR. SHELBY.
6:21:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THIS APPLIES TO ITEMS 1, 2, AND 5.
CHAIR CLENDENIN, YOU ASKED ME TO MAKE INQUIRY WITH THE
FLORIDA COMMISSION ON ETHICS WHETHER YOUR HOME'S PROXIMITY
TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT CONSTITUTES A CONFLICT OF
INTEREST.
THE ETHICS COMMISSION ATTORNEYS HAVE REVIEWED THE MATTER AND
HAVE PROVIDED AN OPINION IN WRITING AND IN SUMMATION, THEY

STATE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND HIS SON'S OWNERSHIP OF
TOWNHOMES ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT IN
AND OF ITSELF CREATE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST PURSUANT TO THE
RELEVANT SECTION OF FLORIDA STATUTES, THE STATE CODE OF
ETHICS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THIS TIME IS TO TAKE THAT WRITTEN
OPINION AND TO PLACE THAT INTO THE RECORD.
6:22:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA
HAS RETURNED.
WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
6:22:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'D ALSO ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION TO
RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX PARTE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS WHICH
HAVE BEEN UPLOADED AND MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION
AT THIS TIME.
6:22:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START THERE, I MEAN, THREE YEARS AGO, I
HAD A CONVERSATION --
6:23:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EVEN ASK ABOUT THE VERBAL.
WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.

WANT TO GET THIS ONE DOWN.
6:23:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
6:23:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOW, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY VERBAL EX PARTE
COMMUNICATIONS RELATIVE TO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, WHICH
IS ITEM NUMBER 5, PLEASE DISCLOSE THAT PRIOR TO THE START OF
THAT, UNLESS YOU WISH TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
ASK IF THERE'S ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
6:23:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION BEING FILED, I
HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE APPLICATION.
6:23:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WAS PRIOR TO FILING?
6:23:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:23:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOTHING PENDING AT THE TIME.
6:23:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
6:23:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL?
I SEE NO RESPONSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY COUNCIL.
6:23:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. COLINS.
6:23:51PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
TODAY I'LL BE PRESENTING TA/CPA 24-11.
THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT PERTAINING TO

MULTIPLE FOLIOS THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF
WEST SWANN AVENUE AND SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS PRIVATELY INITIATED.
IT IS SMALL SCALE IN SIZE.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.05 ACRES.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM THE
RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION TO THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT.
IT IS WITHIN THE HYDE PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
IT'S WITHIN THE HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE HYDE PARK LOCAL AND NATIONAL HISTORIC
DISTRICTS.
I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS AMENDMENT WENT TO THE ARC ON
MARCH 3, OF 2025.
WHERE THE ARC RECOMMENDED FAVORABLE FINDING TO THIS REQUEST.
I ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN --
MAJORITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA, AND IT IS LOCATED HERE ON OUR LOCATIONAL MAP.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
YOU'LL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THAT YELLOW
COLOR.
IT IS AGAIN JUST NORTHWEST OF SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE AND WEST

SWANN AVENUE HERE, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD RUNS TO THE SOUTHEAST
OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, WE HAVE THE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING,
WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY -- I BELIEVE IT IS NINE STORIES IN
HEIGHT.
WE HAVE THE BANK OF TAMPA DRIVE-THROUGH TO THE NORTHEAST OF
THE SUBJECT SITE, SOME CONDOS, OFFICE BUILDINGS ALONG
BAYSHORE.
TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE SOME TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, SOUTHWEST
WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, AND THEN GENERALLY
NORTH OF WEST SWANN AVENUE IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA TO THE
NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE WE HAVE OFFICE
DEVELOPMENT.
HERE IS AN IMAGE LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM WEST SWANN
AVENUE.
AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING NORTH.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ALONG WEST SWANN AVENUE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH MAGNOLIA
AVENUE AND WEST SWANN AVENUE, SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING WHICH IS TO THE EAST.
HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOWNHOMES LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG WEST SWANN AVENUE.
THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING EAST ALONG WEST BAY STREET.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON OUR RIGHT.

THIS IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IN THE
IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING AT THE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING
LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND IF YOU COULD SEE HERE, THIS IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE, AS MENTIONED, IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION SHOWN HERE.
IT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO CMU 35 TO THE EAST, WHICH IS
THE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING.
TO THE WEST -- SORRY, TO THE EAST OF SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE,
THE DARK BROWN COLOR REPRESENTS RESIDENTIAL 83 DESIGNATED
PARCELS.
THAT IS A HIGH DENSITY LAND USE CATEGORY AND ALLOWS
DEVELOPMENT UP TO 83 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS KIND OF WITHIN AN URBAN AREA.
RESIDENTIAL 35 TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH WHERE THOSE TOWNHOMES ARE IS
-- DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL 20.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL
10.
HERE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL, BUT THIS IS THE COASTAL
HIGH HAZARD AREA, WHICH KIND OF JOGS JUST AROUND THE SITE.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO THIS WOULD DESIGNATE THE SITE AS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35,

WHICH IS MEDIUM DENSITY, INTENSITY, MIXED USE PLAN CATEGORY.
IT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. OR 35 DWELLING
UNITS PER ACRE.
IT ALLOWS FOR A RANGE OF USES.
ANYTHING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
SO CURRENTLY, UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION, THE
SUBJECT SITE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR 71 DWELLING UNITS, OR
APPROXIMATELY 53,578 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES,
SUBJECT TO MEETING LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
THESE NONRESIDENTIAL USES WOULD BE LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL --
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES.
AND SOME OFFICE USES.
UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35, AS PROPOSED UNDER THE CMU 35, THE
NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS WON'T CHANGE.
HOWEVER, THE F.A.R. WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE ON THE
SUBJECT SITE.
UNDER THE CMU 35, THE SITE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR
APPROXIMATELY 178,596 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL OR
NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
ONE THING TO NOTE IS UNDER THE CMU 35, THE APPLICANT COULD
UTILIZE F.A.R. FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, WHEREAS UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL 35, THEY ARE LIMITED TO THE DENSITY CALCULATION.
THIS AMENDMENT, AS SHOWN, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INTRODUCE
COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, AND WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE
THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT
SITE.
SO I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT.
WE SENT THIS OFF TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES.
WE RECEIVED COMMENTS AND OBJECTION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
STAFF.
THIS WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 18 OF 2024.
THEY FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF
POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEY FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WITH POLICIES RELATED TO
PROVIDING TRANSITIONS BETWEEN HIGH- AND LOW-DENSITY INTENSITY
AREAS.
THEY RECOGNIZED THAT THE RESIDENTIAL-35 PROVIDES AN
APPROPRIATE TRANSITION FROM THE MORE INCENTIVE USES, R-38 --
AND CMU-35 TO THE EAST, TO THAT RESIDENTIAL-20 AND
RESIDENTIAL-10, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST OF
SUBJECT SITE.
THEY ALSO FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WITH POLICIES RELATED TO
COMPATIBILITY, SPECIFICALLY MASSING AND SCALE, AS SHOWN IN
MY PREVIOUS SLIDE.
THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE
SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT SITE,
NEARLY TRIPLING IT.
FINALLY, THEY FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WITH POLICIES RELATED TO
DIRECTING POPULATION -- FUTURE POPULATION GROWTH AWAY FROM
THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA BECAUSE THE SITE WILL BE
ELIGIBLE TO UTILIZE F.A.R. FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT -- THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY THAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT SITE FAR EXCEEDING WHAT IS
CONSIDERED TODAY ON THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDED THAT THE MAP REQUEST BE FOUND INCONSISTENT WITH
THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
RON VILA IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO
THE ARC'S RECOMMENDATION.
06:31:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. COLLINS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT
YOU SAID OF DENSITY.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE NUMBER OF
UNITS WAS THE SAME?
06:32:09PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
UNDER THE CMU 35, IT ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO
USE THE DENSITY 35 DWELLING UNITS OR F.A.R. CALCULATION.
DENSITY FOR THE 35 DWELLING PER ACRE WOULD STAY THE SAME;
HOWEVER, IF THEY USE THE F.A.R. CALCULATION, IT HAS THE
ABILITY TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON
THE SITE.
06:32:32PM >>RON VILA:
GOOD EVENING, RON VILA, STAFF WITH HISTORIC
PRESERVATION.
AS MR. COLLINS REFERRED TO, THIS WENT TO ARC ON MARCH 3.
THEY USE CRITERIA AS THEY REVIEW THIS CHAPTER 127-113.
THEIR POWERS AND DUTIES ARE A-2-J WITH THE SPECIFIC AUTHORITY
WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICATION OF REZONING, CHANGES IN LAND
USE CLASSIFICATIONS OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPLICATION TO
REVIEW REASONABLE LAND USE CHANGES TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY
TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY AND APPEARANCE.
USING THAT CRITERIA MOVING IT FORWARD, THE ARC, THE
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, HAD REVIEWED THE REFERENCED
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUEST FROM R-35 TO CMU-35 FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 611 SOUTH MAGNOLIA, 601 AND 611 WEST
SWANN AVENUE, 612, 614 WEST BAY STREET, AND 613 MAGNOLIA AT
THE MEETING ON MARCH 3, 2025.
THE ARC VOTED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST TO AMEND
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PRESENTED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY REVIEW THIS FOR -- ULTIMATELY FOR HOTEL USE.
AND THE VOTE CAME IN FOR 3-2 IN FAVOR TO MOVE FORWARD.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS -- WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO
THE ARC, THERE WERE THREE PORTIONS.
FIRST PHASE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, VACATING OF AN ALLEY, AND
ULTIMATELY THE PD.
SO THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY SAW, THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS
ENOUGH INFORMATION THERE FOR THEM TO APPROVE THIS.
SO IT WENT FORWARD TO THE REZONING, WITH THE INTENT THAT THE
SCALE, MASSING, AND SETBACKS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
HISTORIC FABRIC THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE DISTRICT.
WE WILL GET TO THE PD LATER.
I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THERE ARE SOME IMAGES
SHOWN, AND PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS OVER HERE, IN THE GREEN.
THE BANK OF TAMPA, THE HIGH-RISE IS HERE.
AND THEN THE -- THE RED INDICATES THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO THAT LARGER BUILDING IS OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT.
AS YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS PROPOSED, THERE IS A PORTION THAT IS
INSIDE.
AS DANNY SAID, TO THE NORTH THERE IS SOME INTENSIFICATION OF
THE SITE, BUT THEY USE THIS AS A REFERENCE.
THIS BUILDING IS OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT.
IT RUNS THIS WAY, BUT THIS WAS THE DISTRICT, AND THEY PROVIDED
ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT THE ARC GAVE A FAVORABLE
RECOMMENDATION.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:35:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
06:35:29PM >>RON VILA:
THANK YOU.
06:35:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APPLICANT?
FYI, COUNCIL WILL BREAK SOMEWHERE AROUND 7:00.
WE MAY DELAY THAT LITTLE LATER, BUT KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE
A BREAK FOR DINNERTIME BECAUSE WE DON'T GET TIME TO EAT.
06:36:10PM >>SPEAKER:
GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, TRUETT GARDNER WITH
THE LAW FIRM OF GARDNER BREWER HUDSON.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A BASIC QUESTION, WHICH IS ONE WE ARE
ASKING OURSELVES.
WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT?
WE REPRESENT COPPER LINE PARTNERS, WHICH IS LED BY RICHARD
SCHLESINGER, WHO IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
RICHARD OWNS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, NESTLED IN THE HEART OF THE
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD IN PALM BEACH CALLED THE
BRAZILIAN COURT.
IT IS A TRUE GEM.
RICHARD'S VISION, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT, IS TO
CREATE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL AT THIS LOCATION IN HYDE PARK
INSPIRED BY THE BRAZILIAN COURT.
TO HELP ACHIEVE THIS VISION, WE PUT TOGETHER THE BEST LOCAL
TEAM POSSIBLE.
ARCHITECTURALLY, STEPHEN SMITH OF COOPER JOHNSON SMITH.
STEPHEN IS A HUMBLE GUY BUT MOST REVERED AND THOUGHTFUL
ARCHITECT IN HYDE PARK.
WE BROUGHT IN TIM CLEMMONS OF PLACE ARCHITECTURE.
OVER HIS CAREER, TIM HAS DONE NOTABLE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT
THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
THIS IS THE SITE IN QUESTION.
IT IS JUST OVER TWO ACRES AND SITS RIGHT OFF OF BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD.
THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS EXISTING YONKERS BUILDING, WHICH
GIVING ITS LOCATION AND AGE IS RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
ON THE RIGHT AND IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SITE
IS THE BANK OF TAMPA BUILDING THAT STANDS IN NINE STORIES IN
HEIGHT.
OUR FIRST REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION OF OUR SITE FROM R-35 TO CMU-35, WHICH IS THE
IDENTICAL DESIGNATION IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET.
WE BELIEVE THIS HELPS MAKE THE REQUEST APPROPRIATE AND
COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS A LONG TIME.
THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF OUR COMMUNITY
OUTREACH.
WE HAVE HAD 13 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD
STAKEHOLDERS IN HYDE PARK.
AND WE HAD TOO MANY SMALLER MEETINGS AND TELEPHONE CALLS TO
COUNT.
WE HAVE LISTEN TO EVERYONE THAT WILL SPEAK TO US.
AND WE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR PROJECT ALONG THE
WAY.
AS RON MENTIONED AND DANNY, WE FIRST WENT TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION ON OUR PLAN AMENDMENT.
BUT MORE NOTABLY, THAT SAME REQUEST EVENTUALLY WENT IN FRONT
OF THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION.
AS YOU KNOW, THE ARC IS THE BODY EMPOWERED BY THE CITY AND
SPECIFICALLY CHARGED WITH PROTECTING THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
THE ARC VOTED TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE OUR
COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
IN ESSENCE, THE ARC FOUND THAT THE MIXED-USE CATEGORY
OF CMU-35 WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE AND BETTER GUIDE THE
FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.
WE AGREE WITH THE ARC'S FINDINGS, AND OUR TEAM WILL GO
THROUGH THE REASONS WHY, STARTING WITH ADDIE CLARK.
06:39:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
06:39:15PM >> ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING BEFORE TO YOU GO FROM MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL
LAND USE CATEGORY TO A MEDIUM MIXED LAND USE CATEGORY IN AN
AREA WHERE A MIX OF USES ALREADY EXISTS.
ACTUALLY, OVER 26 ACRES OF CMU-35 ALREADY EXIST IN THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WHEN YOU LOOK TO CHANGE THE COLOR ON A MAP, YOU HAVE TO ASK,
IS IT COMPATIBLE AND IS IT PROXIMATE.
THIS IS BOTH AS IT IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF BANK OF
TAMPA AND TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE CMU-35 WILL BE ALONE ON AN
ISLAND.
COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED TODAY IN R-35.
IN FACT, THEY EXIST ON THIS SITE AS OFFICE.
OTHER USES SUCH AS RESTAURANTS AND PRIVATE REC FACILITIES
ARE ALLOWED IN R-35.
IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH OUR VISION, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE
LEAST INTENSE AND PREVALENT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT
ALLOWS FOR HOTEL, WHICH IS CMU-35.
NOT OPEN PANDORA'S BOX FOR USES AS THEY ARE ALLOWED ON-SITE
TODAY.
OUR SITE IS IN LIME GREEN ON SWANN AVENUE, A MIXED-USE
CORRIDOR AND WITHIN THE HYDE PARK URBAN VILLAGE.
NOTABLY, THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL WILL BE LESS THAN A MILE FROM
TAMPA HOSPITAL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN BLUE OF A 15-MINUTE WALK OF
OTHER ATTRACTIONS.
THE CONVENTION CENTER.
THEY STATED THAT THEY HAD TO TURN DOWN EVENTS DUE TO LACK OF
AVAILABLE HOTEL ROOMS NEAR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
OUR SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLACK ALONG THAT MIXED-USE
CORRIDOR OF SWANN AVENUE.
SHOWN IN PINK ARE ALL THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL USES THAT
EXIST TODAY.
COMMERCIAL USE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS PREVALENT AND COMPATIBLE
WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA MAKING THE REQUEST TO COMMUNITY
MIXED AUTO US APPROPRIATE.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY
EXISTS ON THIS BLOCK.
IT IS DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL TODAY, AND I AM GOING TO PUT
INTO THE RECORD A DETAILED MEMO THAT ADDRESSES COMPLIANCE
WITH THE CITY'S GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND DEVELOPMENT POLICIES.
06:41:19PM >>SPEAKER:
GOOD EVENING, I AM TIM CLEMMONS WITH PLACE
ARCHITECTURE, AND I AM ONE OF THE TWO ARCHITECTS FOR THE
PROJECT.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WITH THIS LAND USE -- REQUESTED
LAND USE FROM R-35 TO CMU-35, NO INCREASE IN NET RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY.
WITH BOTH R-35 AND CMU-35, MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL IS THE SAME
AT 35 UNITS PER ACRE.
BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THE CMU-35 IS MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE
LOCATION BECAUSE AS A PREVIOUS SLIDE ILLUSTRATED IN A
MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AT THE EASTERN END OF HYDE
PARK VILLAGE -- HYDE PARK.
AND IT IS SERVED BY A WELL-DESIGNED GRID WAY AND TRANSIT.
THE REASON FOR OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE AS PREVIOUSLY STATED TO
ALLOW FOR HOTEL USE.
NOT TO INCREASE DENSITY.
UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE ZONING, THE SITE DOES ALLOW FOR
71 UNITS.
BUT THE CURRENT -- BEFORE A PURELY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, THE
CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T PUT ANY LIMIT ON THE F.A.R. FOR, AS I
SAID, PURELY RESIDENTIAL UNITS, PROJECTS.
HOWEVER, CMU 35 LIMITS COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE TO A F.A.R. OF
1.0 OR 2.0, WITH BONUSES THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY
COUNCIL.
THIS SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 88,500 SQUARE FEET AND WITH
BONUSES, A PROJECT COULD BE BUILT WITH THE NEW ZONING OF --
NEW LAND USE OF 1677,000 SQUARE FEET.
PURELY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD ALONG
WITH -- IN PROXIMITY TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS 717 UNITS.
UNITS AVERAGE 7100 SQUARE FEET, VERY COMMON IN THIS AREA.
THE PROJECT WILL BE LARGER THAN 177,000 SQUARE FEET.
HERE IS AN EXISTING PROJECT WITHIN HYDE PARK.
THIS IS JUST TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
THE ALLEGRO.
F.A.R. OF 2.15.
AGAIN, THE EXISTING ZONING AND THE EXISTING LAND USE.
THE POINT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT WITH 71 RESIDENTIAL
UNITS, YOU COULD HAVE PROJECTS EVEN LARGER THAN WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING.
AND ACTUALLY, WITH THE EXISTING RO-1 ZONING, IT IS ELIGIBLE
FOR THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.
UNDER A LIVE LOCAL ACT, YOU CAN COULD HAVE PROJECTS --
BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN UP TO 164,000 SQUARE
FEET AND UP TO 200 FEET TALL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE
PROPOSING.
06:44:01PM >>SPEAKER:
I WANT TO CHANGE TOPICS TO THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA AND MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL
HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THE SAME POLICY NOT TO ACHIEVE A NET INCREASE -- NO NET
INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITHIN THIS AREA.
THE EXISTING LAND USE EFFECTIVELY MANDATES THAT WHEN IT
COMES TIME TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
UNITS WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH 71 OPPORTUNITIES.
ALLOWING THE HOTEL WE BELIEVE THAT WILL ENSURE ALLOWING MORE
MIXED USE, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL USE WILL BE LESS.
WE WILL HAVE FEWER RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND NOT ONLY THAT, AS
WE SAW IN 2024 DURING THE HURRICANES, HOTELS WILL BE CLOSED
DOWN BE THERE REDUCING STRAIN ON THE EMERGENCY SERVICE --
EMERGENCY RESPONSE SERVICES AS WELL AS THE EVACUATION
ROUTES.
BECAUSE ALMOST 50% OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS WITHIN THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IT STILL
ALLOWS RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT ZONE.
OUR BELIEF IS THAT THE HOTEL ACTUALLY ACHIEVES THESE GOALS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:45:05PM >> THANK YOU, TIM.
STEPHEN SMITH, COOPER JOHNSON PETERS, ARCHITECT IN TAMPA.
WE TALKED ABOUT HOTEL USE IN TERMS OF COMMERCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO DESCRIBE THEIR HISTORICAL,
CULTURAL, AND COMMUNITY ATTRIBUTES.
HISTORICALLY, HOTELS WERE THE PRIDE OF TOWNS.
THEY WERE LANDMARKS THAT WELCOMED YOU.
LARGE AND IMPRESSIVE AND THEY WERE PLACED AT PROMINENT
LOCATIONS AS GATEWAYS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
TAMPA IN 1891, THE RAILROAD ENDED AT HENRY PLANT'S HOTEL.
THE TEN-STORY BAYSHORE AT BAYSHORE AND HOWARD NOW A
CONDOMINIUM WAS THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY TO HYDE PARK.
IT WAS COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY HOUSES AND SMALL TWO-STORY
APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
BEING LODGING, HOSPITALITY AND COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES,
HOTELS ARE AN AMENITY THAT PROVIDE THE NATURAL TRANSITION
BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
BY THEIR NATURE ULTIMATE MIXED USE AND VIBRANT INGREDIENT IN
VIBRANT URBAN VILLAGES.
HE WANTED TO KNOW THE SECOND IMAGE TO THE RIGHT TO
DEMONSTRATE HOW OUR PROPOSAL COULD BE THE NORTHERN GATEWAY
TO HYDE PARK.
THE BOTTOM STAR IS BAYSHORE ROYAL --
06:46:28PM >> SIR, THERE IS NO VISUAL.
06:46:29PM >> I AM SORRY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ON THE LEFT, BAYSHORE ROYAL HOTEL, HOWARD AND BAYSHORE, AND
THEN OUR MAP.
NEXT, I WANT TO MENTION THAT THE COMP PLAN DOCUMENT IS
FILLED -- I AM GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT ONE.
OKAY.
IT IS FILLED WITH POLICIES THAT DIRECT -- DIRECTLY SUPPORT
OUR REQUEST, GIVEN OUR LOCATION WHEN A DEVELOPING URBAN
VILLAGE ADJACENT TO THE TAMPA URBAN CORE.
POLICIES ENCOURAGE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BROAD RANGE OF
USES AND MAJOR EMPLOYMENT TAX GENERATOR.
ENCOURAGED FOR INFILL AND UNDERUTILIZED SITES LIKE OURS.
LU 5.1 SAYS IT BEST, SUPPORT THE DESTINATIONS THAT HAVE A
HIGH-QUALITY BUILT REQUIREMENT OF FORMS AND CHARACTERS OF
TAMPA'S HISTORIC, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND ARCHITECTURAL CONTEXT
AND CREATE MEMORABLE PLACES TO ENRICH COMMUNITY LIFE.
ALSO, I WANTED TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF
NEWER ARC BUILDINGS THAT ARE GREATER THAN SIX FEET IN
HEIGHT.
HYDE PARK HOUSE OF DESOTO.
FOUR STORIES AT THE BASE TO 21 STORIES.
BAYSHORE, 360-UNIT LUXURY AT BAYSHORE HYDE PARK PLACE THAT
STEPS FROM EIGHT STORIES TO SIX AND BOTH ARE ADJACENT TO
BAYSHORE AND HISTORIC HOUSES.
HYDE PARK HOUSE SITS RIGHT BEHIND THE 1926 BAYSHORE ROYAL
WHICH, AGAIN, IS TEN STORIES.
AND BELOW ARE TWO HISTORIC EXAMPLES.
TWO PRECEDENTS IN THE DISTRICT, 1927 DESOTO OFFICE BUILDING
AND THE 1926 CONDOMINIUM AT MORRISON AND DAKOTA.
SIX STORIES AND SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS AND HOUSES WANTING
TO SHOW YOU THIS IS NATURAL IN THE DISTRICT.
I WANTED TO COMPARE OUR PROPOSAL ON THE LEFT WITH
THE R-35 ALLEGRO ON THE RIGHT.
NEIGHBORS POINTED TO ALLEGRO AND STEPPING FROM SEVEN TO SIX
TO FOUR STORIES.
BOTH ARE SIMILAR IN SQUARE FOOTAGE -- SORRY ABOUT THAT.
HERE WE GO.
THAT'S IT.
06:48:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN STAY UP THERE AND HELP HIM.
06:48:58PM >> OUR PROJECT ON THE LEFT AND ALLEGRO ON THE RIGHT.
BOTH ARE SIMILAR IN SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH ALLEGRO SLIGHTLY
HIGHER AT 2.5 F.A.R. AND HOUSES CAPPED AT 2.0 F.A.R.
IT IS FURTHER IN THE CORE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS TIM MENTIONED, IT IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY.
OUR LOCATION THE PUBLIC EDGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FRONTING
THE GREATEST PUBLIC AMENITY, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
WE FEEL THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE LOCATION OF A PROJECT OF
THIS SCALE AND THE HOTEL USE WILL BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE
COMP PLAN URBAN VILLAGE POLICIES.
HOTEL PROVIDE THE ONLY ACCESSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
THE ONLY BUILDING ACCESSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS ARE COMPLETELY PRIVATE USES.
AND THE LAST SLIDE -- THERE WE GO.
LAST SLIDE, I WILL LIKE TO SHARE A MAP OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK
AREA OF HYDE PARK.
IF WE TAKE THE IMMEDIATE 36-ACRE PROJECT AREA, WE SEE THAT
80% IS DEVOTED TO COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.
ONLY 20% IS RESIDENTIAL.
THAT IS IN YELLOW.
WITH ONLY 3% OF THOSE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
WE ARE NOT LIKE THE AREA OF HYDE PARK IMMEDIATELY TO THE
SOUTH OF SWANN AND WEST OF BREVARD.
THAT AREA IS 98% RESIDENTIAL, AND 90% OF THOSE ARE
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
MY POINT IS, WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS DEVELOPING
MIXED-USE URBAN VILLAGE AND CMU-5 AND A HOTEL USE IS EXACTLY
WHAT THE COMP PLAN ENVISIONS.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS PROJECT CAN MARK THE PUBLICLY
ACCESSIBLE NORTHERN GATEWAY TO HYDE PARK.
THANK YOU.
06:50:51PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
THAT SUPPORTS OUR CASE IN CHIEF AND THE REMAINING TIME FOR
REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
06:51:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.
IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM, EVERYONE IN THE
HAS TO HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
EVERYBODY NOT BEEN SWORN IN?
EVERYBODY LISTEN TO ME, ANYBODY HERE NOT SWORN IN, RAISE
YOUR HAND, PLEASE.
GOOD.
ONLY TEN AT A TIME AGAINST THE WALL.
TEN AT A TIME.
EVERYBODY ELSE CAN REMAIN COMFORTABLE AND SEATED.
WE WILL CALL PEOPLE UP TEN AT A TIME.
ONCE YOU HAVE FINISHED SPEAKING, WE ARE GOING TO ASK TO YOU
GO DOWNSTAIRS -- HEY, EVERYBODY.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
STOP TALKING AND LISTEN TO ME.
ALL EYES ON ME, BOBBI.
BOBBI, I AM TALKING TO YOU.
BOBBI, I AM TALKING TO YOU.
ALL EYES ON ME.
SO IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK, TEN PEOPLE AT A TIME AGAINST
THE WALL.
WHEN YOU ARE DONE SPEAKING, PLEASE GO DOWN TO THE SECOND
FLOOR.
THERE ARE MONITORS -- SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN THERE.
THERE ARE MONITORS AND YOU CAN WATCH THE PRESENTATION DOWNSTAIRS.
WE WILL CLEAR THE ROOM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE
TO COME UP AND JOIN US TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WHEN YOU REACH THE PODIUM, I WILL ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME,
AND YOU CAN START YOUR PRESENTATION.
IF YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, BEFORE YOU GO TO THE
PODIUM, PLEASE HAND IT TO OUR ATTORNEY, MARTIN SHELBY, HE
WILL CALL THOSE NAMES.
THEY NEED TO BE THIS IN THE ROOM AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR
PRESENCE TO BE RECOGNIZED TO BE ADDED TO YOUR TIME.
OKAY.
BOBBI, ARE YOU NUMBER ONE IN LINE?
06:52:31PM >> NO, I AM NOT.
MR. SHELBY?
06:52:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS A REMINDER COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF
PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
THIS IS FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE
AMENDMENT.
THIS NOT THE VACATE.
THIS IS NOT THE REZONING.
IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, A SEPARATE OPPORTUNITY TO
TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONFINE YOUR DISCUSSION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL NOW.
THANK YOU.
06:53:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS JUST CORRECTED -- I HATE TO DO THIS
TO YOU, BUT WE HAVE ONLINE SPEAKERS WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE
FIRST.
CLERK, WHO IS NUMBER ONE ONLINE?
MICHELLE VATALERO.
ARE YOU THERE?
MICHELLE?
MICHELLE, UNMUTE YOURSELF IF YOU ARE MUTED.
OKAY.
THERE YOU GO.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND YOU NEED TO
BE SWORN IN.
OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
NEVER MIND.
STATE YOUR NAME, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:53:48PM >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE VATALERO.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE OLD HYDE PARK CENTER.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT A PROJECT LIKE THIS
WILL HAVE ON SMALL BUSINESSES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
THREE YEARS AGO, I DID MOVE, BUT I STILL SUPPORT THE
BUSINESSES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I GO TO THE ART STUDIO, BECAUSE IT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO
LEARN.
PEOPLE ARE WARM AND WELCOMING.
AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT -- IT'S GREAT.
BUT THERE ARE PLACES THAT I GO CLOSER IF PARKING IS THE
ISSUE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND SOME OF THE REASONS IT DROVE ME AWAY.
I SUPPORT THE BUILDINGS WHERE YOU CAN PARK.
IF YOU MAKE IT TOO DIFFICULT TO GO TO A BUSINESS, WE WORK ON
THE SIDE STREETS, THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
NO PLACE TO PARK IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING
OVER THE LAST 30, 40 YEARS, BUT ESPECIALLY THE LAST TEN
YEARS.
THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL CAN BE BUILT
FOR MR. SCHLESINGER.
THEY DON'T ALL HAVE TO BE BUILT SMACK-DAB IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THE BANK OF TAMPA THAT THEY REFER TO IS NOT
REALLY IN THE DISTRICT, AND IT MAY BE ARCHITECTURALLY
COMPATIBLE, BUT IT IS NOT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE COMMUNITY,
AND THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT DEPEND ON THESE STREET PARKING
PLACES, WHICH WILL BE TAKEN UP BY, YOU KNOW, THE BIG
COMMERCIAL.
IT IS LIKE WALMART COMING TO A COMMUNITY.
THE SMALL BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS.
AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAS TO BE EVIDENCE
THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD SAYS THERE A LACK OF EVIDENCE.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING IN THEIR PRESENTATION THAT WOULD
BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
EVERYTHING WAS A BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER.
AND I SAY THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PLACES IN TAMPA THAT YOU
CAN GO TO BUILD A SIGNIFICANT BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
06:55:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.
06:56:02PM >> THANK YOU.
06:56:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEVE BARNES.
STEVE?
06:56:10PM >> I'M HERE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME.
06:56:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN, AND WE CAN SEE YOU.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:56:16PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEVE BARNES.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR BEING FLEXIBLE AND LETTING ME APPEAR
REMOTELY.
I AM TRAVELING OUT OF STATE AND WITH WEATHER DELAYS, I AM ON
MY WAY TO HOME.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME APPEAR.
I AM SITTING IN MY CAR.
I AM SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION.
I WILL SHARE TWO THINGS WITH THE COUNCIL THAT I HOPE WILL
IMPACT YOUR DECISION.
ONE IS WHEN I GREW UP AS A YOUNG CHILD ON THE EAST COAST IN
THE NORTH END OF PALM BEACH, MARTIN COUNTY LINE AND INVEST
INDIVIDUAL RECCOLECTIONS OF GOING TO BRAZILIAN COURT IN
PALM BEACH COUNTY ON A REGULAR BASIS FOR ANNIVERSARIES,
HOLIDAYS, GATHERINGS, AND HAVE FOUND MEMORIES.
LOOKING BACK, I WAS SURPRISED AND SHOCKED THAT YOU DON'T
EVEN NOTE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT COMMUNITY ARE AS
PROTECTIVE OF THEIR ZONING AND HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE AS
THIS COMMUNITY IS.
AND I CAN TELL FROM YOU PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE GOOD
OWNER, OPERATORS, AND NEIGHBORS THAT RUN THAT HOTEL.
THEY HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
I AM SURE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE FOLKS THAT HAVE TALKED TO
YOU HAVE YOU GONE OVER THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND SEEN HOW
THEY OPERATE.
IN TERMS OF PRESENT DAY, I AM BORN AND RAISED IN FLORIDA.
I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN 36 YEARS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE, AND THEY RETURN FROM COLLEGE AND
AND LIVE AND GROW UP HERE.
I LIVE ON DELWOOD AVENUE, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE
HOTEL.
AND EVEN WITH THAT POSITIVE CHILDHOOD MEMORY WHEN I FIRST
HEARD THIS PROJECT, I WAS DEAD-SET AGAINST IT BECAUSE I HAD
THINGS HUNG ON MY DOOR AND PUT IN MY MAILBOX THAT GOT ME
FIRED UP TO GO TO KATE JACKSON TO GIVE A PIECE OF MY MIND.
WHEN I SAT AND I LISTENED TO THE ARCHITECTS AND THE
ENGINEERS AND LAWYERS AND THE OWNER REPS, I REALIZE WHAT
WAS HUNG ON MY DOOR AND PUT IN MY MAILBOX WAS NOT FACTUAL,
AND I LOOKED INTO IT AND INVESTIGATED.
I AM AN ATTORNEY BY TRADE, AND I AM INQUISITIVE, AND I
WANT THE INFORMATION TO MAKE MY DECISION.
AFTER DOING THAT, I REALIZE THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT FITS.
IT IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT.
EVEN WITH TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL RIGHT ACROSS THE WATER, THE
NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT COME TO THE HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL
CARE AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HOTEL THEY THAT PROXIMITY
IS A HUGE BENEFIT.
THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.
THESE WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND OPERATORS.
I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO TAKING MY WIFE FOR MY ANNIVERSARY IN THE
NEAR FUTURE.
06:58:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, STEVE.
GET BACK TO TAMPA SOON.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR ONLINE SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU FEWER YOUR PATIENCE.
THREE MINUTES.
06:59:08PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
TOM YOUNG, 1017 SOUTH ROME AVENUE IN HYDE PARK.
LIKE STEVE, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE AREA.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MOVED TO ROME FROM THE PALMA CEIA
AREA TWO YEARS AGO SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE ACCESS TO PROJECTS
LIKE THIS.
MY WIFE AND I AND MY CHILDREN, WE LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE
STREET FROM LITTLE ST. JOHN'S.
WE WALK UP ROME TO HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
WE HARDLY GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
I DON'T GET IN MY CAR AND DRIVE DOWN THE STREET.
I DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO TRAFFIC.
YOU CAN TO FORBICI AND MEAT MARKET AND ALL THESE
GREAT PLACES MAKES TAMPA SO UNIQUE AND SO WELCOMING.
I AM A FOURTH-GENERATION SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
LIKE I SAID, I MOVED SPECIFICALLY TO THE AREA FOR ITS
LIVABILITY IN THE HYDE PARK AREA.
A LITTLE NOTE, STEVE MENTIONED HIS CHILDREN.
TEN YEARS AGO, MY CHILDREN WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF
RETURNING TO TAMPA, BUT WE GOT AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES NOW.
WHEN WE SEE IT EVERYWHERE FROM THE RIVERWALK TO WONDERFUL
DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THE OXFORD EXCHANGE AND ARMATURE WORKS AND
CHANNELSIDE.
ALL OF THESE -- ALL OF THESE RESOURCES ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE TO
YOUNG PEOPLE.
MY DAUGHTER, WHO GOES TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, BROUGHT
TEN FRIENDS TO GASPARILLA A FEW WEEKS AGO.
WE PUT THEM UP AT THE PALEY HOUSE, AND THEY WERE BLOWN AWAY.
THEIR IMPRESSION OF TAMPA, IN GENERAL, BEFORE THEY CAME HERE
WAS SOME SORT OF NONDESCRIPT URBAN HELLSCAPE, IF YOU WILL.
I MEAN, WE DO GET THE FLORIDA -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- WE ARE
PAINTED WITH THE FLORIDA BRUSH SOMETIMES.
AND THEY SAW A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SIDE OF THE CITY.
AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY QUITE JEALOUS THAT WE LIVED HERE AND
THE KIDS FROM AUSTIN.
AUSTIN IS A PRETTY COOL PLACE.
MY OTHER DAUGHTER GOES TO THE UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA, ALSO
BROUGHT FRIENDS FROM NASHVILLE.
NASHVILLE IS A COOL PLACE.
THEY WERE ALL IMPRESSED.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME HERE.
I WANT MY KIDS TO COME BACK.
RESPECTFULLY, I AM LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC HERE THAT I
THINK IS OPPOSED.
I WOULD HOPE THEY WANT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT
GRANDCHILDREN TO COME BACK HERE.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
SO I AM SPEAKING IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:01:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
07:01:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE NEXT SPEAKER HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER
FORM.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND HEAR YOUR NAME, RUN
UP -- NOT RUN BUT WALK.
07:02:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS BENNETT HAS A LEGIBLE SPEAKER WAIVER
FORM.
07:02:16PM >> BECAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE IT.
07:02:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPEAK OUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME SO I CAN SEE YOU.
DAVID GLAZER.
THAT'S CORRECT?
MICHAEL MASTATARO, CHRIS GAVEAU, I SEE YOU.
THAT IS YOU RIGHT THERE.
JEANINE TEDDY.
PAULA WECANLY.
07:02:41PM >> HERE.
07:02:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MIKE McNABB.
07:02:44PM >> THANK YOU.
07:02:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JOANNE McNABB.
07:02:47PM >> HERE.
07:02:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
SEVEN ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF TEN.
07:02:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED, YOU CAN GO BACK TO
THE SECOND FLOOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:02:58PM >> CAN I PUT UP MY POWERPOINT?
07:03:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CCTV, IF YOU CAN PUT UP HER POWERPOINT.
07:03:12PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM.
THIS IS AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
WHEN COUNCIL CHANGES FUTURE LAND USE, YOU ARE SETTING THE
MAXIMUM LIMITS OF THE F.L.U. TO APPLY TO THE COMP PLAN AND
ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.
YOU ARE NOT DECIDING IF LESS OF MAXIMUM COMPLIES WITH THE
COMP PLAN.
YOU ARE NOT SAYING IT IS LESS APPROPRIATE TO THE AREA.
THIS RUNS WITH THE LAND, AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT BACK JUST
BECAUSE YOU THINK SOMETHING LESS WILL BE BUILT.
NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODY SAYS, THE OUTER LIMITS IS WHAT YOU
ARE ACTUALLY IMPROVING.
EVERY REZONING IS CHANGING SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED A F.L.U. AND PD,
THEY DIDN'T BUILD ANYTHING AND TO A NEW PD.
PD IS LIKE A PAIR OF PANTS, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM, YOU GET
A NEW PAIR.
COMP PLAN HAVE RULES WHAT TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON FOR A
MAP CHANGE.
IT DICTATES YOUR DECISION.
OUR JOB IS TO WEIGH THESE FACTS AND THESE FACTS ONLY.
YOU MUST ASSESS THE CHANGES FOR APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE
GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF.
AN AMENDMENT IS A DECLARATION THAT THE GROWTH AND
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN SOUGHT BY THE CITY THROUGH THOUGHTFUL
ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE.
IF THE CURRENT F.L.U. IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE.
NOT THAT SOMEONE WANTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
CHANGING THE MAP CAN SERIOUSLY UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF
THE COMP PLAN ITSELF.
AMENDMENTS ARE INFREQUENT.
BUT THIS IS THE THIRD ONE I DEALT WITH IN 2026.
THEY ARE AN EPIDEMIC.
YOU MUST CONSIDER THE EFFECTIVE MAP CHANGE ON TOP OF THE
ENTIRE COMP PLAN AND POLICY SHIFT.
GROWTH AND CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOOD MUST BE MANAGED SO THE
QUALITY OF LIFE IS MAINTAINED OR ENHANCED.
YOU WILL HEAR TONIGHT THAT INSTEAD OF MAINTAINING AND
ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
GREATLY HARM IT.
YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE POLICY IMPLICATIONS AND GROWTH OF
THE PATTERN.
ASSESS THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE BENEFITS.
THESE ARE THE RESULTS OF EXHAUSTIVE ANALYSIS BY MULTIPLE
DEPARTMENTS.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THIS INCONSISTENT WITH THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD FINDS IT INCONSISTENT.
CITY PLANNING OBJECTS TO THE AMENDMENT.
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OBJECTS TO THIS AMENDMENT.
HERE IS A REAR ONE, AND THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY
INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ANALYZED THIS BECAUSE
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A COUNTY ROAD.
THEY HAVE A STRONG CONCLUSION.
THEY SAID THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
WOW.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THIS IS INCONSISTENT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE
TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
I WILL LET THE STAFF SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
THESE ARE SCREENSHOTS OF REPORTS BY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPEATEDLY EXPRESSED CONCERNS
OF THE NEW COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES THIS WOULD ALLOW.
THIS INTRODUCES 40 NEW USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED NOW.
F.A.R., FLOOR AREA RATIO, IS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS -- IS
ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT LAND USE.
F.A.R. GIVES AN EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE.
DIVIDE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE HOWEVER THEY LIKE.
THEY ARE ALLOW TO HAVE AS MANY UNITS AS THEY WANT AS LONG AS
THE BUILDING SIZE STAYS THE SAME.
THE SIZE IS SET.
THE NUMBER OF UNITS IS ADJUSTABLE.
DENSITY ON THE OTHER HAND IS A SPECIFIC NUMBER.
WITH DENSITY, THEY GET AN EXACT NUMBER OF UNITS AND NO MORE.
IT IS THE REVERSE OF F.A.R.
THE NUMBER IS SET.
THE SIZE IS ADJUSTABLE.
CURRENTLY, THEY CAN ONLY HAVE DENSITY, 17 UNITS AND NO MORE.
CMU ALLOWS USE OF F.A.R. AS MANY UNITS AS THEY WANT IF THE
BUILDING DOESN'T EXCEED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMIT.
AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAY UNDER CMU, THEY CAN BUILD
178,596 SQUARE FEET.
THAT SQUARE FOOT CAN BE ALL COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, OR
ANY COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
YOU ARE VOTING ON WHAT IS ALLOWED, NOT WHAT IS PROPOSED.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAYS THIS INTRODUCES THE POLICY OF
NEW COMMERCIAL USES, AND THEY ARE TRIPLING THE SIZE LIMIT.
SO ,OBVIOUSLY, THAT RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT THE MASSING AND
SCALE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAYS THIS VIOLATES EIGHT SECTIONS
OF THE COMP PLAN.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAID SINCE THEY COULD USE A
2.0 F.A.R. FOR RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE NOT LIMITED TO THE
DENSITY NUMBER OF 71.
TO UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT HE SEEKS OF 2.0 F.A.R., THEY
POINTED OUT THAT ALTURO AT A 2.0 F.A.R., AND IT IS 21 STORIES.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF IT.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAID THE CURRENT LAND USE IS AN
APPROPRIATE TRANSITION AS THE SITE IS UNIQUELY SITUATED.
TRANSITION FROM MORE INTENSIVE TO LESS DENSE USE SUPPORTED
BY THE COMP PLAN.
THEREFORE, THIS CHANGE WILL VIOLATE MULTIPLE COMP PLAN
POLICIES.
THIS IS IN A CHHA AND EVACUATION ZONE A.
COASTAL MANAGEMENT PLAN DIRECTS POPULATION FROM THE CHHA TO
ENSURE NO INCREASE IN DENSITY IN THE CHHA.
RESIDENTIAL IS LIMITED TO 71 UNITS.
IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THEY CAN USE F.A.R. ALLOWING OVER
178,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL.
THAT CAN HOLD A LOT MORE THAN 71 UNITS.
THIS CHANGE COULD LEAD TO A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DENSITY
OF A CHHA, WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT
SECTION OF THE COMP PLAN.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THIS IS
INCONSISTENT WITH LOCATING DENSITY OUTSIDE THE CHHA BECAUSE
IT VIOLATES FOR SECTIONS OF THE COMP PLAN.
THOSE OF YOU KEEPING TRACK AN HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE, THAT
BRINGS US A TOTAL OF 146 VIOLATIONS OF THE COMP PLAN, WHICH
IS THE MAIN CRITERIA YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS
OUTWEIGH THE BENEFIT OF THIS CHANGE.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAYS THE 178,000 SQUARE FEET OF
RESIDENTIAL IN BOTH THE CHHA AND EVACUATION ZONE A COULD
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE DENSITY, FAR EXCEEDING THE
DENSITY UNDER THE CURRENT R-35.
THIS POTENTIAL INCREASE IN DENSITY CONFLICTS WITH THE PLAN'S
POLICY THAT DIRECT GROWTH AWAY FROM THE CHAA.
WE DO ALL HEAR THE BROKEN RECORD.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THIS INCONSISTENT AND
FORWARDS THIS RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ALL KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD IS MOSTLY PEOPLE
WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY ALMOST
ALWAYS SUPPORT GROWTH, BUT EVEN THEY FOUND THIS
INCONSISTENT.
BAYSHORE IS A COUNTY ROAD, SO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ANALYZED THIS CHANGE.
NO IMPROVEMENT FOR BAYSHORE IN THE CORRIDOR PRESERVATION
PLAN, THE LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, OR THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
THEY COMPARED THE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC FOR THE TWO
DIFFERENT F.L.U.s.
THEY DIDN'T COMPARE, WHAT IS THERE NOW WHAT IT PROPOSE.
THEY COMPARED THE POTENTIAL MAXIMUMS BOTH F.L.U.s.
THEY BELIEVE A 30% INCREASE OF TOTAL DAILY TRIPS ON BAYSHORE
AND 25% TRIPS IN PEAK AFTERNOONS ON BAYSHORE, WHICH
REPRESENTS IN THEIR WORDS THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO, OF THE
DENSITY/INTENSITY AND ALLOWABLE USES.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE SAYS THIS
PARCEL WILL RELY ON COUNTY-OWNED ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT
IT IS IN TAMPA'S JURISDICTION AND NO WAY TO ENSURE ADEQUATE
ACCOUNT COUNTY PLANNING OR FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED
DEVELOPMENT.
CITY PLANNING STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THERE WILL BE DEVELOPMENT
IN THE CHHA AND EXISTING POLICY STRONGLY ENCOURAGES ANY
INCREASES IN DENSITY.
CITY PLANNING OBJECTS TO IT THE AMENDMENT.
LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE
WILL NOT BE INCREASING DENSITY IN THE CHHA AND CONTINUE
REQUEST IS, QUOTE, SOLELY TO USE F.A.R. TO INCREASE THE SIZE
OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE BUILT.
TAMPA TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SAYS NO ROADWAY CAPACITY
IMPROVEMENT IN THIS AREA, NO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, NO
TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, AND NO FUNDING FOR A SERVICE
THAT IS PROPOSED A THIRD OF A MILE AWAY.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS SAY GORRIE, WILSON AND PLANT ARE
PROJECTED TO BE OVERCAPACITY.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SAYS NO.
PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD SAYS NO.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE SAY NO.
CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT SAYS NO.
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION SAYS NO.
CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE SAY NO.
THANK YOU.
APPLAUSE]
07:12:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NO -- [GAVEL SOUNDING] -- NO CLAPPING,
NO SNAPPING FINGERS OR NOTHING.
WE JUST SIT THERE QUIETLY AND LISTEN.
07:13:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOUR PRESENTATION.
I WILL GET THOSE TO YOU LATER.
MR. DEACON HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL NAME SO FOUR MINUTES.
07:13:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START, AND YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
07:13:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, IF YOU ARE DONE WITH THAT, WHOEVER
CAN GIVE A COPY TO THE CLERK.
07:13:59PM >> THEY NEED YOUR NAME.
07:14:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A LITTLE WHEEL ON THE TOP.
THERE YOU GO.
PERFECT.
07:14:17PM >> I AM PERFECT, THANK YOU.
07:14:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE PERFECT, BOBBI, WE LOVE YOU STATE
YOUR NAME.
07:14:24PM >> GEORGE DEACON, 1408 SOUTH DESOTO.
I AM A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
AND THIS IS THE COPY OF MY LICENSE AS PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER
IN FLORIDA.
AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION.
WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
WE ARE VOTING ON THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND WHAT IS THE
MAXIMUM USE ALLOWED FOR THAT.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE.
RIGHT.
THIS NOTES THE NUMBER OF LANES IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING
ROADWAY NETWORK.
ALL OF THEM ARE TWO LANES.
ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
SOME WILL HAVE STREET PARKING ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE AND HALF
OF THEM ARE BRICK.
THESE STREETS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF MOST OF THE STREETS OF
THE AREA.
MANY OF THE STREETS ARE NARROW AND ARE NOT BUILT OR
DESIGNATED FOR LARGE VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC.
MOST OF THE LOCAL STREETS HAVE WE WILL DEFINITELY SMALL
CAPACITY.
THERE IS A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROPOSED AT BAYSHORE AND
SWANN.
THIS STUDY WAS JUST COMPLETED, AND IT WAS SENT TO CITY
COUNCIL IN LATE JANUARY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS YET, BUT AFTER READING THROUGH THE
REPORT A COUPLE OF TIMES, YOU SEE THAT IT IS NOT A CAPACITY
ENHANCEMENT.
IT IS MORE OF CONCERN FOR SAFETY.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CRASHES THERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR STORAGE FOR VEHICLES, AND MOST OF
THE AMENDMENTS ARE -- MOST OF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ACTUALLY
FOR CAPACITY -- I AM SORRY, FOR SAFETY.
JUST THINKING OF IT.
IF YOU PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON BAYSHORE, AND YOU STOP THAT
TRAFFIC BEFORE IT FLOWS THROUGH, YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE
THE AVERAGE DELAY PER VEHICLE FOR BAYSHORE.
IT IS NOT A CAPACITY ENHANCEMENT.
NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS THE TRIP GENERATION STUDY THAT WAS DONE
BY WOLF AND ASSOCIATES THAT WAS HANDED IN -- PREVIOUSLY
HANDED IN.
IT SHOWS THE MAXIMUM.
IT SHOWS THE EXISTING LAND USE.
AND THEN SHOWS THE MAXIMUM LAND USE UNDER THE CMU-35.
NEXT SLIDE.
ON -- WELL, THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT SLIDE.
I COPIED IT, AND IT IS THE SAME NUMBERS -- THE SAME,
EVERYTHING IS THE SAME AND I BLEW UP THE RED CONCLUSION
THERE IS.
AND IN THE LOWER RIGHT, INCREASING THE EXISTING LAND USE FOR
TOTAL TRIPS IT IS 365% INCREASE.
FOR TOTAL TRIPS, IT'S UP 1200%.
AND FOR THE DAMAGE, ALMOST 1600%.
NEXT SLIDE.
07:17:50PM >> YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT.
07:17:59PM >> YEP.
THIS SLIDE IS A SUMMARY OF THE -- WHICH IS ON THE
SURROUNDING NETWORK IF YOU PASS THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
FOR CMU-35.
THIS IS A MAXIMUM TRIP GENERATION.
ROADWAY VOLUME ON SURROUNDING STREETS WILL EXCEED THE
ROADWAY CAPACITY.
AVERAGE VEHICLE DELAY WILL INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY.
THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC --
07:18:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT COMPLETES YOUR TIME.
OKAY, SO WE WILL HAVE THREE MORE SPEAKERS, AND COUNCIL WILL
BREAK FOR LUNCH, AND WE HAVE TO EAT AND HAVE BEEN GOING SINCE
9:00 THIS MORNING.
IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE THREE, MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE.
WHEN WE COME BACK, LINE UP IF YOU CAN REMEMBER WHERE YOU ARE
SO YOU CAN LINE UP.
OKAY, STATE YOUR NAME AND -- DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER
FORM?
07:18:53PM >> YES, SIR.
07:18:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GET BACK TO YOUR CAGE.
07:18:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE, THOMAS USIC.
DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY?
ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY, SETTLE DOWN BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL
START SPEAKING, AND WE WANT TO RESPECT WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
EVERYBODY, SHHH ... BOBBI, SHH ...
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE.
07:19:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DR. MICHAEL POBAT, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE
HISTORIC HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
THE HYDE PARK SPANISH CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION OPPOSED THE
PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT RADICALLY CHANGES
POTENTIAL USES FROM THE LAND FROM R-35 TO A CMU-35 THAT
ALLOWS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED DENSITY FOR A VARIETY OF
COMMERCIAL USE SUCH AS HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS.
WE, TOO, OPPOSE THIS CHANGE TO THE LAND USE OF GUIDELINES
ASSOCIATED WITH SPANISH TOWN CREEK AND THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN THAT FOCUS ON MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF A
NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH ARE CRITICAL COMPONENTS TO STRONGLY
CONSIDER YOUR DECISION TONIGHT.
SPANISH TOWN CREEK IS SHOWN IN THIS PICTURE IS CONSIDERED
THE GENESIS OF TAMPA HISTORIC HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK
IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR SQUARES MILES AND WAS OFFICIALLY
DESIGNATED A HISTORIC DISTRICT IN 2023.
SPANISH TOWN CREEK INCLUDES GORRIE ELEMENTARY AND WILSON
MIDDLE SCHOOLS LOCATED WITHIN TWO BLOCKS OF THE PROPOSED
LAND USE CHANGE.
IN ADDITION, SPANISH TOWN CREEK IS HOME OF THE FRIDAY MORNING
MUSIC HOUSE, WHICH IS A 1927 CLUBHOUSE AND AUDITORIUM AT THE
CENTER OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK'S EARLIEST AND CULTURAL CIVIC
LIFE.
HOME TO DOBYVILLE AND THE ORIGINAL DOBY HOME, A LOCAL
HISTORIC LANDMARK.
AS EVIDENCED BY OUR PETITION THAT HAS OVER 1500 SIGNERS,
RESIDENTS ARE CLEARLY CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSIENT TRAFFIC AND
INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR OUR WONDERFUL
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED FOR THE
SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN WHO WALK, SCOOTER, OR RIDE THEIR BIKES
TO AND FROM GORRIE AND WILSON.
WHEN FOCUSING ON ECONOMIC DIVERSITY, SPANISH TOWN CREEK HAS
APPROXIMATELY 354 RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND APPROXIMATELY --
APPROXIMATELY 132 COMMUNITY SMALL BUSINESSES, AS SHOWN IN
THIS PICTURE.
BUSINESSES SUCH AS THE DOG BAKERY, THE NEW BOSQUE
RESTAURANT, MANY DENTAL AND MEDICAL OFFICES, CONVENIENCE
STORES, AND ALLEGRO WITHOUT TRANSIENT RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC.
APPROVING A LAND USE CHANGE STRUCTURES OUT OF SCALE WITH
HEIGHT, MASS, AND DENSITY TO BE SQUEEZED IN THIS LOCATION
WITH OUR BRICK ROADS AND HISTORIC DESIGNATION DIMINISHES THE
CULTURAL INTEGRITY OF THIS PART OF HISTORIC SPANISH TOWN
CREEK.
THIS ANOTHER PLAY OF PLACING A 20-POUND BUILDING IN A UNIQUE
FIVE-POUND BAG.
SPANISH TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION IS NOT AGAINST GROWTH
AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ARE UNITED ON THIS ISSUE AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
SELECTING A TWO-BLOCK AREA WITHIN A PROTECTED HISTORIC
NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDED BY NARROW BRICK STREETS PROPOSING A
MASSING INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEARBY HISTORIC BUILDINGS,
INTENSE DEVELOPMENT AND A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
CONGESTED HURRICANE EVACUATION ROUTES AND DISMISSED THE
PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS AT THIS VERY LOCATION
IS HARMFUL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THESE ARE NOT DECISIONS THAT REFLECT ANY APPRECIATION FOR
THE SPIRIT OF THE EXISTING RULES FOR MANAGING SMART GROWTH
AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION GUIDELINES.
HISTORIC HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS
THAT YOU PLEASE SAVE OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH OUR
BRICK ROADS, HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, INCREDIBLE RESIDENTS,
AND A TRULY UNIQUE AND SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF YOUR TIME.
07:23:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER.
I HAD MY EYE ON THAT BAG.
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET A NEW ONE.
07:23:27PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS CARLY PARKER, AND I REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF
THIS PROPERTY.
I RECENTLY GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND SAME
WITH A LOT OF MY OTHER FRIENDS AS WELL, WE DECIDED TO STAY
IN TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS KNOWN TO BE A GROWING CITY, AND IT IS
A VERY EXCITING UPBEAT CITY AS WELL.
PROJECTS LIKE MAGNOLIA HOTEL ARE EXACTLY WHY I WANT TO STICK
AROUND.
THEY ELEVATE OUR CITY'S OFFERINGS AND HELP PROVIDE A BETTER
FUTURE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
THIS PROJECT WILL ACT AS A GATEWAY TO ONE OF THE GREATEST
NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY AND SERVE AS A BEAUTIFUL AMENITY
THAT ANYONE CAN ENJOY.
AND WE NEED AND WE DESERVE A SPACE LIKE THIS ON BAYSHORE.
MY BIGGEST FEAR, HONESTLY, IS WHAT WILL THIS PROPERTY WILL
BE IF IT DOES NOT PASS.
UNDER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN AND BUILD A
MASSIVE BUILDING THAT IGNORES THE CHARACTER OF A
NEIGHBORHOOD.
A BUILDING THAT IS MEANT TO POSSIBLY BE INSIDE DOWNTOWN.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A TOWERING APARTMENT BUILDING THAT
OFFERS ZERO PUBLIC AMENITIES AND ZERO CHARGE.
I MUCH RATHER SUPPORT A PROJECT LIKE THIS WHERE THE
COMMUNITY IS HEARD AND THE RESULT IS SOMETHING WE CAN
ALL BE PROUD OF.
PLEASE DON'T RISK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S FUTURE LETTING THIS
BECOME AN OUT-OF-SCALE HIGH-RISE.
AND PLEASE VOTE YES TO THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:24:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
07:24:50PM >> HI THERE.
MY NAME IS SARAH LUSH, AND HERE TO READ A LETTER FROM
SANTIAGO CORRADA, THE CEO OF VISIT TAMPA BAY.
ON BEHALF OF VISIT TAMPA BAY, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT
FOR THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL AND RESIDENCES IN HYDE PARK.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT FEEDBACK FROM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS HAVE
BEEN MIXED, ENCOURAGING TO SEE A STEADY INCREASE IN
COMMUNITY SUPPORT AS MORE RESIDENTS LEARN ABOUT THE
PROJECT'S QUALITY, DESIGN AND BENEFITS.
THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL WILL TRANSFORM AN UNDERUTILIZED SITE INTO
A WALKABLE, MIXED-USE DESTINATION THAT WILL ENHANCE THE
HISTORIC CHARACTER OF HYDE PARK.
THIS PROJECT BRINGS MULTIPLE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, INCLUDING
UPGRADED STORMWATER SYSTEMS, IMPROVED STREETSCAPES, ENHANCED
NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY, AND NEW HOSPITALITY OPTIONS THAT WILL
SUPPORT RETAIL AND DINING ESTABLISHMENTS YEAR ROUND.
COPPER LINE PARTNERS HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR ACCLAIMED
BRAZILIAN COURT TO COMPLEMENT THEIR SURROUNDINGS AND
COMMUNITY.
VISIT TAMPA BAY RESPECTFULLY ENCOURAGES YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS
PROJECT AND THE CONTINUED LEADERSHIP INTO PROMOTING
RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT BENEFITS BOTH RESIDENTS AND
VISITORS.
THANK YOU.
07:26:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER.
07:26:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIVE NAMES, DEBBIE ZAMMERMAN.
07:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEBBIE ZAMMERMAN, IF YOU WERE DOWNSTAIRS,
COME AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE.
07:26:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL HOLD THAT IN ABEYANCE.
MARIANNE HIMSY.
KAREN LILIBRIDGE.
07:26:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT WAS THE LAST NAME?
07:26:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LILIBRIDGE.
07:27:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEBBIE ZAMMERMAN IS HERE.
07:27:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
LAURA, KIPPH --
07:27:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THEY ARE A SPEAKER LIST, TELL THEM TO
COME IN.
07:27:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND JANICE CHAPMAN.
07:27:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
07:27:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARIANNE HOMSEY.
OKAY, THAT'S AN O, JANICE CHAPMAN, LAURA WITH A K.
07:27:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
07:27:36PM >> CHAPMAN.
07:27:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND KAREN?
07:27:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LAST NAME OF KAREN.
KAREN LILLIBRIDGE.
07:27:52PM >> ONE IS COMING UP.
07:27:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, SOMEONE IS COMING UP.
OKAY.
SHE DOESN'T TO COME THROUGH SECURITY.
CAN YOU ASK JUNIOR IF THAT IS KAREN?
NO KAREN.
07:28:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR SPEAKERS PLUS THREE
IS SEVEN.
07:28:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME YOU HAVE SEVEN
MINUTES.
07:28:25PM >> HOW MANY MINUTES?
07:28:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEVEN.
THERE WILL BE A TIMER CLICKING DOWN.
07:28:30PM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL SHEA.
I AM AN ATTORNEY.
AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING THE HYDE PARK
SPANISH CREEK -- SPANISH TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
I AM FROM AN AGENCY CALLED SAINT MICHAEL CENTER.
WE REPRESENT THE POOR, WORKING POOR, AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.
MY RECORD AND BACKGROUND IS THAT I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF
SOUTH FLORIDA.
I MAJORED IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.
I WENT TO WORK FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING
COMMISSION.
I WENT OFF TO LAW SCHOOL TO FSU.
I GOT A DOCTORATE IN LAW.
THEN WENT TO THE URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF
FSU STAND A POST-DOCTORATE.
I HAVE LIVED IN SOUTH TAMPA FOR FOUR GENERATIONS.
AND I SPENT MOST OF MY TIME AS A LAWYER IN LAND USE
PLANNING.
AFTER I GRADUATED FROM FSU, I WENT TO WORK FOR FIVE YEARS
FOR A CONSULTING FIRM, AND WE WROTE ZONING TO ORDINANCES,
COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, AND BUILDING CODES.
AND WE WROTE 78 OF THEM IN CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT
THIS STATE.
WE WROTE PENSACOLA.
AND WE WROTE KEY WEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS -- RESIDENT AT 6301 BAYSHORE, AND WE
GOT FLOODED.
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HYDE PARK.
MY GRANDMOTHER AND MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER AND MY MOTHER AND MY
GRANDFATHER, GREAT GRANDFATHER ALL LIVED ON SOUTH DAKOTA.
MY MOTHER WAS BORN ON THAT STREET.
MY MOTHER WENT TO GORRIE AND WILSON.
I WENT TO PLANT, BUT I DIDN'T GO TO ANY OF THOSE SCHOOLS.
BUT I DID HAVE MY LAW OFFICE ON 419 WEST PLATT STREET FOR 26
YEARS, WHICH IS IN THIS DISTRICT.
THIS DISTRICT HAS 354 RESIDENTS, 132 BUSINESSES, AND EVEN
HAS A SMALL PUBLIX WHICH SERVES DOWNTOWN TAMPA, DAVIS ISLAND,
AND HYDE PARK.
HYDE PARK WAS SET UP BY TO O.H. PLATT IN 1886.
THAT MAKES IT 148 YEARS OLD.
IT IS A WONDERFUL PLACE.
LIVING IN HYDE PARK IS LIKE BEING IN WESLEY CHAPEL, BUT YOU
ARE NEXT DOOR TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
AND THAT IS A WONDERFUL TRADITION.
AND WE SHOULD PRESERVE THAT.
AS A LAND USE PLANNER, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DENY THIS.
AND I TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING THAT CARROLL ANN
TALKED ABOUT WHEN SHE TALKED OF ALL THE AGENCIES IN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WHICH HAVE TURNED DOWN THIS AND
RECOMMEND YOU DISAPPROVE IT.
I DO TOO.
THIS IS LIKE HAVING A GAS STATION.
AND YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED TO APPROVE IT ON INTERSECTION OF TWO
BIG STREETS.
YOU APPROVE ONE GAS STATION, I GUARANTEE YOU THERE WILL BE
THREE MORE.
THIS IS PROBLEM HERE.
YOU ARE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT WILL CHANGE HYDE PARK AND
THAT IS NOT GOOD.
SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY
CONSIDER.
ALSO, THERE IS A FLOOD PROBLEM THAT HAPPENS AS EVERYBODY
KNOWS ON BAYSHORE.
THERE IS ALSO -- IT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, THE HURRICANE.
IT ALSO CAUSES PROBLEMS TO EVACUATION ROUTES.
IT ALSO HAS A HIGH USE OF PEDESTRIANS UP AND DOWN BAYSHORE.
WE ALL SEE THAT ALL -- SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
IT IS TRULY HISTORICAL DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T NEED A HOTEL.
IT ALSO HAS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT THEY POINTED OUT.
IF I UNDERSTAND IT, BRING IN A FAMILY AREA, THAT IS,
LIKE, TRIPLING THE AMOUNT OF PARKING YOU NEED.
SO AS A LAND USE PLANNER AND A LAWYER, I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT YOU TURN THIS PROJECT DOWN.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND YOU SHOULD TAKE NOTE THAT THERE ARE OVER 1500 PEOPLE WHO
HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRE TO KEEP HYDE PARK JUST LIKE IT
IS.
SO PLEASE DO US A FAVOR.
TURN THIS DOWN SO WE CAN ALL GO HOME AND PROBABLY CELEBRATE
ANOTHER 140 YEARS OF A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
07:33:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY, WE WILL BE ARE RECESS.
WE WILL COME BACK TO CHAMBERS AT 8:00, 27 MINUTES.
[RECESS]
08:03:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DO HAVE A LINE.
HOW MANY DO WE HAVE IN THE LOBBY RIGHT NOW?
SAM, HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE?
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
08:03:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
08:03:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
08:03:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
08:03:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
08:03:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
08:03:59PM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE OF A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
08:04:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA IS IN THE ROOM.
THOSE MAYBE NOT PAYING ATTENTION DOWNSTAIRS, WHEN CALL NEXT
PERSON UP, COME TO THE PODIUM AND STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
ALWAYS START WITH YOUR NAME.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
THIS IS ONLY FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE, ITEM NUMBER 1.
08:04:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU MR. LAMAR.
08:04:22PM >> YES, BRIAN LAMAR.
08:04:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. LAMAR HAS SEVEN NAMES, AND ACKNOWLEDGE
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.
EVELYN PEAVY.
ARE YOU IN THE ROOM?
08:04:34PM >>I WAS BRINGING THEM UP FROM DOWNSTAIRS.
08:04:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COME ON IN.
08:04:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHOULD WE WAIT A MINUTE OR TWO.
EVELYN.
JUDY MILSACK.
08:04:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUDY IS IN THE BACK.
08:04:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST ACKNOWLEDGE.
MISS PEAVY.
EVELYN PEAVY?
OKAY, THANK YOU.
LINDA HUGHES.
THANK YOU.
CLAUDIA ROBERTS, THANK YOU.
HILA SCHILER.
CORA WATERHOUSE AND -- IS THAT -- DEMI -- YOU ARE HILA.
CORA WATERHOUSE.
08:05:31PM >> SHE IS NOT HERE.
08:05:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND DENNY McDONALD.
DERRY.
OKAY.
CORA WATERHOUSE IS NOT HERE.
08:05:44PM >> SHE IS NOT HERE.
08:05:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS SIX ADDITIONAL NAMES FOR A TOTAL OF
NINE MINUTES.
08:05:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOUR NAME WAS CALLED, GO BACK
DOWNSTAIRS, RELAX AND ENJOY YOUR EVENING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY, BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO GO TO THE
SECOND FLOOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE NINE MINUTES.
08:06:03PM >> BRIAN LAMAR.
IF WE CAN CALL UP THE PRESENTATION.
08:06:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
IT WILL COME UP IN A SECOND.
THERE WE GO.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS BRIAN LAMAR.
THE CHIEF METEOROLOGIST WITH INSPIRE WEATHER, A WEATHER
CONSULTING FIRM THAT I LAUNCHED LAST MAY 1 AFTER RETIRING
FROM THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOR OVER
30 YEARS.
AND I WAS IN CHARGE WITH THE WEATHER OFFICE, COVERING ALL OF
WEST CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST FLORIDA BASED IN RUSKIN SINCE
2007.
WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON GOING FORWARD IS LOOKING AT THE
VULNERABILITY OF THE AREA WHEN IT COMES TO HURRICANES,
TROPICAL STORMS, AND ALSO SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL
HEARD A LOT OF TONIGHT, THE CHHA, THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA.
THERE ARE ALSO TWO PARTS OF THAT DEFINITION FROM FEMA, ONE
RELATED TO THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM AND ALSO ONE
RELATED TO COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.
IT REALLY FOCUSES ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL HAVE COASTAL
INUNDATION, STORM SURGE OF THREE FEET OR MORE, OR ALSO, IF YOU
HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE.
AND -- AND LOOKING AT THE TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, I AM NOT
SURE IF IT IS SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP ON THIS SCREEN IN FRONT OF
ME HERE.
BUT THE TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA.
THERE ARE TWO SUBSETS THAT ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT
AND THE CHHA DEVELOPMENT AREA AND BONUS AREA.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT IN
EITHER OF THOSE TWO AREAS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
THIS WILL BE THE FEMA, THE FIRM MAP.
THIS IS THE FLOOD MAP THAT IS FOR THE SUBJECT AREA.
I AM GOING TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THE
SUBJECT SITE BOUNDED BY SWANN, MAGNOLIA, BAY, AND BREVARD.
THE ENTIRE AREA IS IN ZONE AE.
BUT LOOK AT THE BLACK LINE WITH THE TRIANGLE, THAT IS THE
LINE THAT IS THE LIMITED MODERATE WAVE ACTION.
WHAT THAT MEANS AS DEFINED BY FEMA, THAT IS REALLY ABOUT --
ONE AND A HALF TO THREE FEET OF WATER, FAST MOVING WATER CAN
MOVE INTO THAT AREA AND YOU CAN SEE THE ZONE INTERSECTING
BAYSHORE AND SWANN.
YOU HEARD A LOT OF THE CHHA, AND I WON'T BELABOR IT, AND YOU
WILL HEAR MORE.
SPECIAL FLOOD ZONE THAT THE ENTIRE AREA RESIDES IN IS CALLED
THE 1% ANNUAL RETURN RATE FOR FLOODS.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM A TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE.
IT BE FOR A SLOW MOVING THUNDERSTORM THAT WE SEE DURING THE
FLORIDA WET SEASON.
THIS ONE IN 100-YEAR.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A MISUNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
WE SAW THAT YOU 16 MONTHS AGO, 17 MONTHS AGO, 18 MONTHS AGO
WHEN WE HAD HURRICANE DEBBIE IN AUGUST OF 2024.
WE HAD HURRICANE HELENE LESS THAN A MONTH LATER THAT
IMPACTED THIS AREA.
AND ALSO HURRICANE MILTON, ONLY TWO WEEKS AFTER HELENE.
THOSE WERE ALL STORMS THAT WAS IN THE ONE IN 100 YEAR OR
MORE.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IF I
GET THAT FLOODED STORM, IT IS IN THE ONE IN 100
YEAR THAT I'M HAVING FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS, AND THAT IS NOT
THE CASE.
YOU CAN HAVE THAT STORM HIT YOU AGAIN A MONTH LATER, SIX
MONTHS LATER, AND SO FORTH.
SO, AGAIN, JUST A STATISTIC, A PROBABILITY.
BUT I WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT IS CALLED A NOAA SEA
LEVEL RISE VIEWER.
AND I USE IT THROUGHOUT MY 30 YEARS IN FLORIDA, TEXAS AND
COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS TAKE THIS MODEL THAT IS AVAILABLE
TO EVERYONE.
IT IS RUN BY FEMA AND NOAA AND THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
AND THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY AND I WILL FLOOD THE AREA
WITH FOUR FEET, EIGHT FEET AND TEN FEET.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
SO WE HAVE ALL OF BAYSHORE.
YOU CAN SEE HARBOUR ISLAND, DAVIS ISLANDS, DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
I WILL ZOOM IN, AND THAT IS NO FLOODING.
THE BASELINE IS HHMW.
MEAN HIGH WATER.
AN APPROXIMATION HOW MUCH WATER ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
WE WILL TALK OF MEAN HIGH AND HIGH WATER.
WE WILL GO UP AND THAT IS FOUR FEET.
LET ME ZOOM IN.
FOUR FEET OF MEAN AND HIGH WATER.
FOUR FEET ALONG COAST AND WATER IS STARTING TO PENETRATE THE
AREA ON THE SOUTHEASTERN SIDE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE
SUBJECT SITE WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT SWANN AND MAGNOLIA.
LET'S GO TO EIGHT FEET.
YOU CAN SEE EIGHT FEET HERE.
AND NOW PRETTY MUCH HALF OF THE AREA IS INUNDATED WITH
WATER ALONG WITH MANY OTHER AREA,S AND THIS IS VERY CLOSE
TO WHAT WE SAW IN OCTOBER AND SEPTEMBER, ESPECIALLY SEPTEMBER
OF 2024 WITH HURRICANE HELENE.
WE ALL REMEMBER THE PICTURES OF TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL.
THEY HAD THE MAGNIFICENT AQUA FENCE.
MY OFFICE AT THE TIME WORKING WITH TAMPA GENERAL HELPING TO
MAKE THEM DECISIONS WHEN TO DEPLOY THAT AQUA FENCE.
27 HOURS FOR THAT MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT AND NOW
THEY HAD FLOODING BUT GREAT TO SEE THAT SIX FEET OF WATER
HELD BACK AND WATER WAS REDIRECTED.
WE KNOW HOW WATER CAN BE REDIRECTED WITH A BOUNDARY IN THE
A YEAR.
FIVE FEET OF MEAN HIGH AND HIGHER WATER.
AND THE MAJORITY OF TAMPA IS HAVING A LOT OF COASTAL
FLOODING IN THIS AREA, BUT ALSO THE SUBJECT SITE BOUNDED BY
SWANN, MAGNOLIA, BREVARD AND BAY STREET.
THIS STATISTIC HERE I THINK IS FASCINATING.
I KNOW IT MANY TIMES IN PRESENTATIONS IN FLORIDA OVER THE
YEARS.
BOTTOM TWO LINES REPRESENT THE UNITED STATES.
BOTTOM ONE IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT, 20%.
ON THE ONE UP IS FLORIDA, AND THAT IS 29%.
AND TAMPA HAS 40.3% ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.
THIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
UNDER RISK FOR FLOODING, OKAY.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE ADDING MORE PROPERTIES.
SO THIS IS A PROJECTION GOING OUTWARD 15 YEARS FROM NOW AND
THEN 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
YOU CAN SEE IF NO DEVELOPMENT OCCUR IN TAMPA, WITH CLIMATE
CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE, WE ARE GOING FROM 40% OF THE
PROPERTY IN TAMPA HAVING A RISK OF FLOODING TO ABOUT 43% TO
ABOUT 45%.
AGAIN, THIS MEANS NO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT, JUST WITH SEA
LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE.
THIS GRAPH OVER HERE I PULLED OFF LAST WEEK.
ALL THE HURRICANES THAT IMPACTED NOT JUST FLORIDA BUT TAMPA,
OKAY, FROM 2017, MIGHT REMEMBER THAT YEAR, HURRICANE IRMA.
WATER LEFT TAMPA PAY.
VERY IMPRESSIVE.
WE SAW THAT WITH HURRICANE MILTON.
I WILL TALK WHY BEFORE MY TWO AND A HALF MINUTES GO UP.
AND SAY THIS FOR A REASON.
MANY HURRICANES IMPACTED SINCE 2017.
NOT OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS BUT SINCE 2017.
LOOK AT THE LINE OF FEMA ON BOTTOM RIGHT.
HURRICANE MILTON.
I WILL GO BACK ONE SOUTH OF SARASOTA.
ZOOM IN.
THE POINT IS NO HURRICANE HAS MADE LANDFALL WHERE WE ARE
SITTING RIGHT NOW, SINCE 1921, OCTOBER 5, 1921 THE LAST TIME
A MAJOR HURRICANE ESPECIALLY IMPACTED THIS AREA.
HURRICANE IDALIA IN 2023.
WE KNOW HOW IT IS.
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FLOODED.
THE SITE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOODED, AND MANY OTHER AREAS
IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
THAT HURRICANE DID NOT HIT TAMPA, IN FACT THE CENTER OF THE
HURRICANES WITH 100 MILES WEST OF US.
AS A METEOROLOGIST, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT NO DEVELOPMENT
SHOULD OCCUR ON COASTLINE.
THAT IS NOT REALISTIC, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK
AT THE THREAT ESPECIALLY IN A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA,
ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WITH FLOODING AND WITH CLIMATE CHANGE,
THAT WILL SEE MORE FLOODING.
THIS RIGHT HERE -- AS I SAID, AS A METEOROLOGIST, I NEVER WANT
TO SEE THAT AGAIN.
SEPTEMBER 28, 2022.
ANY GUESSES?
THIS IS HURRICANE IAN THAT IMPACTED THE AREA.
I WENT DOWN THERE AND DID THE DAMAGE SURVEY, AND IT WAS
DEVASTATING THE LOSS OF LIFE.
36 PEOPLE DROWNED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
I GET CHOKED UP THINKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I WAS
DOWN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT.
THIS WAS MANY YEARS AGO.
YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT.
IF HURRICANE IAN HAD WOBBLED SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST BY 20
MILES -- I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, IF HURRICANE IAN WENT TO THE
WEST BY 20 MILES, THE LANDFALL WILL BE HERE.
I PERSONALLY MEASURED 15.4 FEET FROM HURRICANE IAN.
THERE I AM ON THE LEFT DOING NATIONAL MEDIA AND WORKING WITH
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EMERGENCY MANAGERS.
HOMES IN THE MIDDLE WERE DESIGN TO WITHSTAND FLOODS.
A WOMAN VIDEOTAPED THE STORM SURGE AND AMAZING SHE SURVIVED.
FINAL SLIDES HURRICANE CHARLEY AND IAN WERE BOTH CATEGORY 4.
FORGET THE CATEGORY WHEN YOU HEAR FROM US.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
CHARLEY WAS SIX FEET AND HURRICANE IAN PRODUCED 15 FEET.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME REPORTING ON THIS VERY MATTER.
08:15:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
08:15:22PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS HAILEY.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS HAILEY GETZ, AND
HERE TO EXPRESS ME SUPPORT FOR THIS PROBABLY.
AFTER COMPLETING MY DEGREE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF IT TAMPA, I
MADE DECISION TO STAY AND WORK RIGHT HERE BASED ON TAMPA
BAY.
I BELIEVE IF WE WANT A CITY LIKE TO THRIVE, WE NEED TO
SUPPORT SMALL GROWTH LIKE THE MAGNOLIA PROJECT.
CITIES THAT SHUT DOWN PROJECTS LIKE THESE DO NOT THRIVE.
DESPERATELY NEED POSITIVE GROWTH LIKE THIS TO ENSURE OUR
FUTURES.
I BELIEVE THAT THE HOTEL IS A MUCH BETTER NEIGHBOR THAN A
MASS APARTMENT COMPLEX OR ANOTHER TRAFFIC BUILDING.
TRAFFIC IS BETTER SPREAD OUT AND OFFERS MORE AMENITIES FOR
OUR COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO LIVE IN A FUN DYNAMIC NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THINGS TO
DO AND PLACES TO SEE.
I WANT TO BRING MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS HERE IN THE MAGNOLIA
HOTEL SEEM LIKE IT WILL DO EXACTLY THAT FOR HYDE PARK.
IT IS CLASSY AND FITS RIGHT IN.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS ANOTHER HIGH RISE TAKING UP
SPACE THAT DOES LITTLE TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM CONCERNED THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL GET BECAUSE OF
THE LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT TAKES DECISIONS OUT OF OUR HANDS AND
YOURS.
PLEASE DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN, AND I URGE TO YOU VOTE YES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
08:16:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
08:16:35PM >> AVERY THEODORE, AND I SUPPORT THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL PROJECT.
I AM ALSO A RECENT GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND
I CAN SEE THIS CITY AS BEING MY PERMANENT HOME FOREVER.
I WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT THANK IS GROWING, BUT GLOWING
THAT WAY.
I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROJECT, AND I AM VERY ENCOURAGED
HOW MUCH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THIS TEAM HAS TRULY SHOWN ITS COMMITMENT AND
UNDERSTANDS ITS RESPONSIBILITY.
IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY TOOK THE FEEDBACK TO HEART AND
SIGNIFICANTLY SCALED BACK THE PROBABLY TO MAKE SURE IT FITS
THE CHARACTER AND THE SCALE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE PERFECT NEW ADDITION
TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY WE LOVE SO MUCH AND WISH
TO BE A PART OF.
MY CONCERN IS, WHAT WILL BE BUILT IF THIS -- IF THIS
PROPOSAL IS REJECTED?
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IS A BIGGER, TALLER APARTMENT AND
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT WITH NO PUBLIC SPACE OR AMENITIES.
IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING UNDER LIVE LOCAL, THAT TYPE OF
DEVELOPMENT CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT ANY AT LOVE INPUT FROM THE
PUBLIC OR THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU CARE WHAT WE THINK HERE, HEAR THIS.
WE WOULD RATHER SHOW A PROJECT WE CAN ALL APPRECIATE AND
ENJOY THAN JUST ANOTHER BIG APARTMENT BUILDING TAKING UP
MORE SPACE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND PLEASE VOTE YES.
08:17:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:18:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. HAPNER HAS FOUR NAMES.
SILCOX.
FRANK SILCOX.
ADAM MURRAY.
TARA NEYLAND.
JACK WYATT.
I SEE -- MR. WYATT IS HERE.
SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE THREE NAMES.
08:18:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON A SECOND.
08:18:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. SILCOX, ANNA MURRAY AND TARA NEYLAND.
08:19:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMEBODY OUT AND SEE IF THERE IS A TARA
OUT THERE.
OKAY.
TARA, IF YOU WERE DOWNSTAIRS, COME FIRST FLOOR OF CITY
COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
08:19:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES WITH A
TOTAL OF SIX.
08:19:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF TARA WALKS IN, I WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL
MINUTE.
08:19:33PM >> I AM JOE HAPNER, 417 HYDE PARK AVENUE.
I HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL OFFICE IN HYDE PARK FOR 61 YEARS.
1970s, HYDE PARK WAS A NICE AREA TO LIVE IN.
A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
MOST BUILDINGS AND RESTAURANT ARE OWNED BY LIFE-LONG
RESIDENTS.
1985 WHEN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS APPROVED BY THE NATIONAL
REGISTER IN THE CITY.
SINCE 1985, THE CITY HAS STRONGLY SUPPORTED THE HISTORICAL
PRESERVATION AND FOUR HISTORICAL DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
59 LANDMARK BUILDINGS.
49 YEARS, HYDE PARK HAS WITHIN CONSISTENT COMPATIBLE
BUILDINGS BY COUNCIL, THE PRESERVATION BOARD, STAFF, THE ARC
AND HOMEOWNER.
TONIGHT, IT IS YOUR TURN TO DENY THE LAND USE CHANGE AND
MAINTAIN THE HISTORY AND OF HYDE PARK.
IF IT IS NOT A DISTRICT, A CORPORATE GHETTO WITH THREE-CAR
GARAGES LINING THE STREET.
THEY HAVE A HOTEL ON SWANN.
EPICURIAN ON HOWARD WITH 188 ROOMS AND 48,000 ROOMS A HALF
MILE AWAY IN DOWNTOWN.
LAND USE CHANGE IS NOT NEEDED, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT WILL OPEN
PANDORA'S BOX FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONINGS NORTH OF SWANN
SIMILAR TO THE DISTRICT NORTH OF THE CROSSTOWN THAT HAS
PRETTY MUCH LOST ALL THE HISTORIC VALUE.
PRESERVATION WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE -- IN THE
SPANISH CREEK AREA BY SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR R.O. DISTRICT
IS WHAT SAVED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUYING PROPERTY, IT IS BOUGHT AS IS WITH THE CURRENT LAND
USE AND ZONING, YOU HAVE THE OWNERSHIP RIGHT TO USE THE LAND
IN THOSE STANDARDS.
NO EXPECTATION OR LEGAL RIGHT TO CHANGE THE LAND.
THE LAND USE IS TO BENEFIT THE BUYER FINANCIALLY.
NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S JOB CITY COUNCIL TO BUY OUT THE BUYER
TO INCREASE THE HAVE ALE EWE OF HIS PROPERTY.
NO COMMERCIAL MIXED LAND USE -- LET ME REPEAT THAT, NO
COMMERCIAL MIXED USE LAND USE LIKE THIS ONE HAS EVER BEEN
APPROVED IN THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
CURRENT LAND USE FAVORITE WORD IS "URBAN VILLAGE."
HYDE PARK HAS BEEN A MODEL URBAN VILLAGE SINCE THE EARLY
1900s.
LET'S KEEP THIS WAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CHHA COASTAL MAP AND TOUGH ACT
TO FOLLOW WITH THE NUMBER ONE SPEAKER.
I PRINTED A COPY AND GIVEN TO YOU OF FEMA NATIONAL FLOOD MAP,
WHICH IS THE SAME ONE YOU SAW WITH THE FIRST SPEAKER.
08:22:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CCTV, CAN YOU GET THE WOLF ON THE
PROJECTORS PLEASE?
THERE WE GO.
THANK YOU.
08:22:22PM >> THE FLOOD ZONE -- THE GROUND ELEVATION OF MAGNOLIA IS SIX
FEET ABOVE LEVEL.
BASE FEET IS 12.
DESIGN ELEVATION IS 13.
WE MEANS MINIMUM SEVEN FEET ABOVE GRADE AT THAT LOCATION.
AS THE MAP INDICATES, THE LMWA OF MODERATE WAVE ACTION THAT
YOU SAW BEFORE GOES RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY.
THE NEXT FLOOD ELEVATION BFE IS THE BROWN AREA THREE OR FOUR
BLOCKS AWAY FROM THIS SITE.
THE RWA LINE IS NOT STORM SURGE BUT WHAT BE EXPECTED WITH
HIGH TIDE AND WESTERN WIND AND INTENSE SUMMER RAINSTORM.
WE HAVE SEEN BAYSHORE AN SWANN FLOODED AND CLOSED FOR
TRAFFIC WITH RAINSTORMS AT HIGH TIDE.
CITY AND COUNTY LAND USE POLICY IS NOT TO INCREASE ANY LAND
USE THAT WILL INCREASE DENSITY AND HUMAN OCCUPANCY IN
THE CHHA.
CITY COUNCIL IS ON RECORD IN TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL
STATING THE FOLLOWING.
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DIRECTS FUTURE
DENSITY AWAY FROM THE CHHA AREAS.
CITY COUNCIL OPPOSES INTENSE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT.
CITY COUNCIL IS having CRACK DOWN ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE
CITY'S COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS.
COUNCIL WARNS OF OVERDEVELOPMENT.
TAMPA CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT COASTAL DEVELOPMENT IN ITS
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE PUTTING PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK AS COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON SAID.
NOT A DEVELOPER VERSUS N.I.M.B.Y.s BUT PROTECTING
EVERYBODY'S LIFE.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
AND IF STAFF HAD ANY PLANS TO OVERDEVELOP THE CHHA WHEN IT
CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
QUOTE, THE POLICY AND THE DATA YOU JUST PRESENTED US ARE
ONLY GOING TO WORK IF THOSE OF NEWS GOVERNMENT CREATE
POLICIES THAT RAIN TENSIONAL TO MINIMIZE GROWTH IN HAZARDOUS
AREAS.
CLENDENIN SAID IF WE BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND AND PRETEND
THEY DON'T EXIST AND ALLOW DENSITY TO EXPLODE IN THE AREA
WHERE YOU ARE DATA WILL NOT REFLECT VARIETY.
IF THIS PROPERTY CHANGED THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE, THEY CAN
FLOOD THE PROPERTY AND 300 FOOT LONG AND 3775 FOOT HIGH DAM
ON THE PROPERTY.
STORM SURGE WATER ACROSS AND UP DOWN THE STREET.
WATER HAS GOT TO GO SOME PLACE.
RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICES IN THE AREA WITH NONELEVATED
STRUCTURES AND CRAWL SPACES WILL PLAY THE PRICE.
BUILDING DESIGN CAN CONTROL VERTICAL RAIN AND ON THE ROOF
BUT CANNOT CONTROL THE PHYSICS OF HORIZONTAL DRIVEN RAIN
THAT HITS 147-FOOT-HIGH WALL AND SHUT DOWN EXTERIOR WALLS TO
QUICKLY ONE PAST THE ONE TO SEVEN-FOOT SETBACKS INTO THE
ADJACENT STREETS TO FLOOD THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
EXISTING FLOODING PROBLEMS AT BAYSHORE AND SWANN.
SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW.
PHOTOS OF THE TOWNHOUSES OPPOSITE THE STREET.
THESE PEOPLE GOT FLOODED LAST HURRICANE.
THEY MADE AN EFFORT HERE TO PUT IN NEW GARAGE DOORS AND PUT
UP THE BARRIERS FOR FLOOD PROOFING THEY DIDN'T GET PERMITS.
NOBODY TOLD THEM IT WAS ILLEGAL TO PUT UP THAT THEIR
RESIDENCE.
AM I DONE?
OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:25:48PM >> I HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO COME UP.
DGR IS PART OF THE NAME.
08:26:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO NAMES.
WILL ROBERTS --
08:26:20PM >> THEY ARE COMING IN RIGHT HERE.
WILL ROBERTS AND LILLIAN ROBERTS.
THANK YOU.
TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
08:26:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
LET'S SEE.
CAN WE GET THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
08:26:43PM >> YES, JUST LIKE THAT.
08:26:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WAS IT ATTACHED TO A PERSONAL NAME.
THIS DGR.
FILE NAME IS DGR.
08:27:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
USUALLY YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT IT IN ADVANCE.
08:27:07PM >> I WAS GOING TO DO IT HERE, AND HE SUGGESTED IT MIGHT BE
CLEANER.
08:27:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE MAY HAVE IT.
08:27:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF NOT, YOU CAN TAKE ONE OF THESE AND USE
THE OVERHEAD.
08:27:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CCTV.
AND WE NEED IT ON THE PUBLIC MONITORS AS WELL.
08:27:25PM >> WILL IT COME HERE OR NOT.
08:27:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WILL NOT.
YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK UP THERE AND SEE IT.
IF YOU CAN START THE PRESENTATION, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
08:27:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU CAN PUSH PLAY.
08:27:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
08:27:38PM >>SPEAKER:
I DON'T LIKE THAT VIEW OF MY BALD SPOT.
08:27:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE FIRST TIME I REALIZED I WAS BALD.
LIKE A CAMERA LIKE THIS.
WHO IS THAT BALD GUY.
08:28:03PM >> OKAY, GREAT.
OKAY, GREAT.
MY NAME IS DON ROBERTS.
I LIVE 40 SOUTH DELAWARE AVENUE WHICH IS IN SPANISH TOWN
CREEK.
BEFORE I GET INTO MY REMARKS, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY
THAT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS
DESTROYED GRADUALLY, ONE PROJECT AT A TYPE.
IT IS HISTORIC.
IT IS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD.
IT IS RESIDENTIAL.
I AM ASKING TO YOU VOTE THIS DOWN SO DON'T DISTURB THE
THINGS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPIN TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT I
THINK IT IS BAD EXECUTION.
IT IS A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
SEVEN STORIES.
I'M NOT SURE I CALL THAT UNIQUE, RESTAURANTS, CONDOMINIUMS,
AND EVENT SPACE.
SOUND GOOD.
I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THAT NEAR A NEIGHBORHOOD.
PROBLEM IS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY PUT IT.
TRY TO TAKE THIS RESIDENTIAL SESSION AND MAKE IT COMMERCIAL.
IT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
YOU HEARD A LOT OF THEM ALL DAY TODAY.
AND YOU HEARD THIS IS FROM VARIOUS STAFFS IN THE CITY,
ARCHITECTURAL AND PLANNING HAVE REJECTED THIS IN WHOLE.
THIS PART.
AND I ASK YOU A LIST OF THOSE FOLKS TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS
AND REALIZE THIS IS NOT GOING WE WANT TO HAVE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS AND WILL TALK ABOUT
A FEW.
THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF A HISTORIC
NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN AND WHAT MANY OF US DO.
FOR THIS HOTEL, IT WILL NEED TRASH DELIVERY, PARKING GARAGE IF
A CMU-35 TYPE OF STRUCTURES.
RENDERING THAT THE APPLICANT HAVE PROVIDED, IT IS CLEAN,
WIDE, ASPHALT STREETS, NO OPPOSING BUILDING.
IT LOOKS GREAT.
REALITY IS, THIS IS WHAT THAT STREET LOOKS LIKE.
IT IS BAY STREET.
A NARROW BRICK STREET.
IT HAS BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE PARK WITH
ON-STREET PARKING.
TOO NARROW FOR OPPOSING TRAFFIC.
THEY ARE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR A 55-FOOT AREA TO
ACTUALLY MANEUVER ON THIS STREET.
COMMERCIAL ROLLOFF DUMPSTER ACTIVITY ON THIS STREET.
PARKING ACCESS.
THIS WILL CERTAINLY NOT RUIN THE BLOCK TO THE RIGHT, BUT TO
THE LEFT --
08:30:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST REMEMBER THIS IS ABOUT THE FUTURE
LAND USE.
08:30:14PM >> I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I AM JUST GETTING TO THE POINT THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT
A CMU MIGHT CREATE.
RENDERING HERE -- BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, THEY ARE
SUGGESTING A PLACE SUCH AS THIS.
AGAIN, WITH WIDE STREETS AND ASPHALT STREETS AND NO OPPOSING
BUILDING.
THIS LARGE EVENT SPACE WILL GO ON A STREET THAT LOOK LIKE
THIS.
BAY TO THE LEFT.
BREVARD TO RIGHT.
YOU WILL HAVE, AGAIN, NARROW ON STREET RESIDENTIAL PARKING.
THERE ARE RESIDENCES ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AND NOT
BUSINESSES.
TOO NARROW FOR OPPOSING TRAFFIC.
RIDE SHARE TRAFFIC RIGHT HERE.
TRUCKS THAT COME IN.
AGAIN, EVEN IF THIS DOESN'T BECOME A HOTEL AND BECOMES
SOMETHING ELSE, IT WILL BE WHATEVER IS NEEDED FOR CMU-35
WILL NEED SIMILAR THINGS AND NOT IN CHARACTER FOR THIS
HOTEL.
YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC TODAY.
THIS IS SOME TRAFFIC THINGS BROUGHT UP BY THE APPLICANTS.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THESE THINGS ARE SHOWING.
NOTHING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OR VERTICAL PART OF THESE
GRAPHS.
CALL THEM TRAFFIC THINGS.
TWO FOR EACH OF THE SCHOOLS.
AND THE BLUE LINE FOR THE HOTEL.
WHAT THEY THINK WILL CHANGE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
I GUESS THE ASSUMPTION SINCE BLUE IS BELOW THOSE PEAKS, WILL
NOT BE A PROBLEM.
EVERYTHING IS ADDITIVE AND THIS TIME -- EXCUSE ME THIS TYPE
OF CHANGE ON THIS BLOCK WILL BE ADDITIVE ON THESE BURDENED
AND NARROW STREETS.
ALREADY THERE ARE CAR LINES IN THERE.
DANGEROUS FOR THESE PEDESTRIANS.
WHATEVER GO GOES INTO THIS CMU-35 SPACE IS NOT SOMETHING
THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HANDLE.
THIS ALREADY DANGEROUS AND NOT IN THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF
THE NEIGHBOR.
SIMILARLY, THIS IS THE CORNER OF BAYSHORE, SWANN AND
MAGNOLIA.
HOTEL TO THE LEFT HERE.
AND I HAVE -- AND THE -- I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR THIS
PICTURE.
I TOOK IT OFF OF GOOGLE.
NOT AS CLEAN AS IT COULD BE.
THIS HAD THIS BAR IN THE MEDIAN THAT HAS BEEN KNOCKED
OVER.
I DON'T KNOW OF THE SAFETY OF THIS SPACE.
IT IS ON GOOGLE NOW.
YOU CAN INTERPRET IT AS YOU LIKE.
WON'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE GO
AWAY.
WHATEVER YOU PUT IN HERE, YOU ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE TO
GO AWAY.
TO MOVE IT OVER TO THIS SPOT.
THIS ISN'T MUCH BETTER.
TWO BAYSHORE INTERSECTIONS AND HERE IS A CLOSE-UP ON
BAYSHORE AND BAY.
THEY ARE ALREADY DANGEROUS.
THEY ARE NARROW.
THEY ARE NONSTANDARD.
VERY CONFUSING AND PUTTING MORE ON HERE IS DANGEROUS.
SPEAKING OF TRAFFIC, MY LAST SLIDE.
THIS IS WHERE THE HOTEL IN THE LOWER RIGHT.
HOW ARE TRUCKS, IF YOU MUTT SOMETHING COMMERCIAL, HOW WILL
THE SERVICE TRUCKS GET TO THIS LOCATION?
I AM NOT SURE AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION DURING THE MINI
MEETINGS.
AND WE HAVE HOWARD AND A MEDIAN OFF TO THE LEFT.
AND BREVARD BOULEVARD HERE IN THE MIDDLE.
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE VERY GOOD.
08:33:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
STATE YOUR NAME FIRST AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:33:29PM >> MARY ESTHER PARKER, GIVE MY ADDRESS?
08:33:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE
TO.
08:33:36PM >> I LIVED IN HYDE PARK FOR 50 YEARS.
AND IF EVERYTHING HAD BEEN GRANTED THAT HAD BEEN ASKED FOR
US IN 50 YEARS, NOBODY WOULD HAVE WANT TO LIVE THERE
ANYMORE.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR COMING DOWN.
08:33:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO FACE US.
08:33:55PM >> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT ON THIS
BEHALF.
LET'S SEE.
SO ANYWAY, SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER THIS IS THE PERFECT
LOCATION.
IT IS THE PERFECT LOCATION FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU.
08:34:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU GET THE AWARD FOR BREVITY.
NEXT SPEAKER.
08:34:17PM >> MY USUAL ROUTINE IS NOT TAKING MORE THAN THREE MINUTES
BUT I WILL TAKE A FEW EXTRA.
08:34:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO NEED TO BE SORRY.
IT'S COMING UP.
08:34:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RICK AND DEBBIE ROGERS.
THANK YOU.
TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR FIVE.
08:34:50PM >> I WILL START INTRODUCING MYSELF.
I NEED ME PRESENTATION.
08:34:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WILL COME UP.
08:34:54PM >> I AM PATRICK CIMINO.
LIVED IN HYDE PARK FOR 35 YEARS AND EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO
THE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THE INTENSITY OF USES.
THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS REQUEST.
NO ISOLATED MIXED USE IN OUR AREA.
EVEN THE VILLAGE IS MUCH LESS DENSE THAN THIS PROJECT, AND
THAT IS A MIXED USE.
SOME ON HOWARD AND SOME IN OTHER AREAS.
BANK OF TAMPA TOWER IS A NEIGHBOR.
YOU HEARD THAT.
A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT THE CURRENT USE AND THE PROPOSED USE.
THE PROPOSED USE, INTENSIFICATION DOESN'T MEET THE
POTENTIAL.
YOU ARE APPROVING THIS LAND USE AND WOULD APPROVE EVEN
MORE THAN THIS, WHICH IS ALREADY EGREGIOUS.
YOU HEARD OF ALL THE INCONSISTENCY.
WANT TO MAKE A IDEA ON THE BE ARC.
THEY LOOKED VERY CONFUSED.
FIVE MEMBERS THERE.
3-2.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WERE VOTING ON.
THEY AT LEAST HAD TO GRIP WITH REALITY WITH ZONING, REQUESTING
DENIAL OF THE ZONING.
WE DON'T NEED A THEORETICAL GRAPH OR ANYTHING.
WE HAVE THE VILLAGE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT INTENSIFICATION OF
SERVICES IS.
I LIVE HALF A BLOCK FROM THERE.
HUNDREDS OF MULTIFAMILY, COMMERCIAL AND RESTAURANTS.
THERE IS NO WAY PARKING FOR RESIDENTIAL IS -- IT IS A
FRACTION OF THE INTENSITY OF THESE OTHER USES.
SO I PERSONALLY STUDIED THE TRUCKS, BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG
DEAL.
YOU HAVE INTENSE SERVICES, YOU NEED TRUCKS.
WORKED WITH THE VILLAGE MANAGEMENT, THE RESTAURANT AND STORE
MANAGEMENT.
INTERVIEW TRUCK DRIVERS IN MY ROLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
ONE RESTAURANT, ONE RESTAURANT, A TRACTION OF THIS PROJECT
GENERATES FIVE TO SIX TRUCK DELIVERY AS DAY.
THREE OF WHICH ARE TRACTOR-TRAILER.
SOME COME EARLY IN THE MORNING AT 4 A.M.
WHAT THEY SAY OF TRUCKS, NO TRUCK ROUTES IN HYDE PARK.
THEY NAVIGATE THROUGH OUR NARROW STREETS, AND THEY SAY THEY
HAVE TO GO ANY WAY THEY CAN AVOID DETOURS BECAUSE OF OUR
DILAPIDATED INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY CAN LEGALLY PARK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THEY BLOCK TRAFFIC.
MAKE NOISE.
BELCH EXHAUST AND HISTORIC AND DAMAGE STREET SIGNS THAT WE
PAY FOR.
DAMAGED TREES AND CLIPPED CARS.
PEOPLE COME UP TO ME ALL TIME, DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
MY CAR.
I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, A TRUCK TURNING ON ONE OF OUR NARROW
STREETS.
PEOPLE WANT AMENITIES.
HYDE PARK IS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
20 EATERIES IN THE VILLAGE, 20.
IT IS FIVE BLOCKS FROM THIS PROPOSAL.
THE MOST DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENTS YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE
MIXED USE SPREAD EVERYWHERE.
DO WE NEED A MIXED USE EVERY TWO, THREE BLOCKS.
BECAUSE THIS IS FIVE BLOCKS.
I MEAN, COME ON.
SO I HAVE BEEN VERY CURIOUS BECAUSE THE BRAZILIAN COURT IS
TOUTED -- I'M SURE IT IS A LOVELY PLACE.
A PICTURE OF ONE SIDE OF IT.
I DID A GOOGLE MAP AND LOOKED AT THEIR HISTORIC GUIDELINES
BASED ON THE INTERIOR STANDARDS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR STANDARDS LIKE OURS ARE.
THIS IS QUOTE, SHOULD NOT EXCEED THE AVERAGE VERTICAL OR
HORIZONTAL RHYTHM OF THE AREA.
I WILL CONTEND THAT THIS WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
BRAZILIAN COURT, LOVELY LANDSCAPING.
ANOTHER VIEW, THIS IS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY,
RESIDENTIAL, LESS THAN TWO STORY.
LOTS OF FOLIAGE.
LOTS OF SETBACK.
THIS PROJECT WOULDN'T SIT THERE.
THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY AND INTENSITY, IT WOULDN'T MAKE IT.
THEY WOULD RUN THEM OUT OF TOWN WITH THAT SAID, YOU NEED TO
DENY THIS LAND USE BECAUSE IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR OUR
HISTORIC DISTRICT AND QUOTING ONE OF THE E-MAILS SENT TO
THE CITY TO JUST SAY NO TO THIS MADNESS.
PLEASE DO THAT.
THANK YOU.
08:38:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER.
08:39:01PM >> I HAVE A PICTURE.
SHOULD I PUT IT HERE.
08:39:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DROP IT AND IT WILL COME BY ITSELF.
08:39:08PM >> BOB KELLY, 7703 SOUTH BREVARD.
I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
AND ME AND MY WIFE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN A LICENSE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, REAL
ESTATE BROKER IN FLORIDA SINCE 1978.
I STILL AM, 48 YEARS.
I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS KIND OF STUFF, AND THE WAY I
SEE IT, CURRENT ZONING OF OFFICE IN RESIDENTIAL IS TEXT
BOOK.
IT DOES WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO.
REDUCES THE BUILDINGS HEIGHTS AS YOU PASS THE BANK.
REDUCES THE DENSITY HEIGHT AND REDUCES THE ITENSITY OF
USE AS WE APPROACH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS ONE
IS THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DESERVES NOT TO
BE DISTURBED.
WE HAVE PROBABLY THE MOST POPULAR, WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN
AREA.
OUR CHILDREN WALK TO SCHOOLS.
WE WALK OUR DOGS.
IT IS REALLY A PEACEFUL AND SERENE PLACE ON THE WEEKENDS.
ANY EXTREME USE CHANGE ESPECIALLY TO COMMERCIAL CHANGES
EVERY.
IT GOES FROM -- GOES ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY TO 24-7, 365 DAYS
A YEAR.
WE GOT THE DELIVERY TRUCKS.
WE HAVE GUEST SERVICES.
WE HAVE THE UBER AND LYFT PICK-UPS.
WE HAVE EVENT CENTER AND BALLET PARKING.
RESTAURANTS.
PARKING CARS.
I ONLY SEE IT AS -- AS WORSE TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET FROM
THE VILLAGE.
SIZE OF PROJECT IS ALSO EXTREME.
IT IS NOT PROPER PLANNING.
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STEPPING DOWN.
AS YOU APPROACH A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU START STEPPING DOWN SO
YOU BLENDS IN.
LIKE GOING OFF A CLIFF, 300 X 700-FOOT CONCRETE RECTANGLE.
YOU CAN PUT ALL THE LIPSTICK YOU WANT ON IT, CALL IT A
BOUTIQUE HOTEL, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT STILL IS WHAT IT IS, A
CONCRETE RECTANGLE 300 X 700-FOOT PARKING GARAGE.
IT'S JUST -- I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY.
WE DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY.
FLOODING.
FLOODING.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE SHEETS OF
PAPER, ONE OF THE FLOOD.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE SHOWING.
AFTERMATH.
THIS IS JUST LAST WEEK.
NOT LAST WEEK, BUT LAST -- LAST STORM.
THAT FLOODING.
THEY SIAD THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF FLOODING BY PUTTING IT ALL
UNDERGROUND.
I LIVE THAT CORNER FROM JULY THROUGH NOVEMBER, WATER SEEPS
FROM UNDERGROUND.
WATER TABLE ARE FULL.
I HAVE A CORNER THAT IS COVERED WITH MILDEW, AND I HAVE TO
SCRUB IT OFF BECAUSE THE WATER KEEPS SEEPING.
08:42:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, BOB.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:42:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. HANLAN HAS ONE
NAME, BEV HANLAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ONE EXTRA MINUTE.
TOTAL OF FOUR.
08:42:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU WERE DOWNSTAIRS AND PLANNING ON
SPEAKING, WE HAVE SEATS AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN COME UPSTAIRS.
08:42:45PM >> MY NAME IS JOE HANLAN, AND I LIVE AT SEVEN AND A HALF WEST
SWANN WITH MY WIFE IN A REHABBED CARRIAGE HOUSE LIKE THIS.
THE FRONT -- GARAGE DOORS ARE FAKE, BECAUSE WE COMPLIED WITH
THE ARC REQUIREMENTS.
THERE IS NO GARAGE BACK THERE.
OUR HOUSE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE LIVED HERE FOR 13 YEARS.
WE OWNED THE BUILDING AND THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FOR OVER 40
YEARS.
WE OPPOSE THIS LAND USE CHANGE.
AND I WILL -- I WILL MAKE THREE POINTS TO SUPPORT MY
OPPOSITION.
FIRST -- AND YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE -- THE STAFF REVIEWS.
SECOND, IMPACTED ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TRAFFIC, PARKING, AND
THIRD, I WILL SAY SOMETHING I DIDN'T THINK I SAID BEFORE,
THE CURRENT ZONING IS GOOD.
71 TOWN HOUSES ON THAN TWO-ACRE SITE WITH THE ALLEYS AND
GARAGES IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, FULL OF
FAMILIES, ALL THEIR CARS PARKED IN THE STREET.
THEY BUILT SEVEN OF THESE THINGS AND SOLD THEM FOR $2
MILLION AND A MONEY MAKER FOR 71 OF THESE TOWN HOUSES.
08:44:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO FACE THIS WAY.
THE MICROPHONE IS IN THE PODIUM IF SO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
08:44:19PM >> SO LET ME GO OVER THESE POINTS.
THIS PROPOSAL CAN BE REJECTED BY ALL THREE PUBLIC STAFF
REVIEW.
THEY ALL FUNDS IT INCONSISTENT.
THESE ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED EXPERTS, ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS,
KNOWLEDGEABLE BY THESE REQUIREMENTS AND STUDY IT CLOSELY.
PROJECTED THE IMPACTS ON THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWN
AS SPANISH TOWN CREEK, AND THEY ALL CONCLUDED THAT IT DIDN'T
FIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ADVISING YOU TO REJECT IT.
I'M ASKING TO YOU FOLLOW YOUR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
TWO, CONSIDER THE IMPACT.
THIS WOULD HAVE -- BE A DISASTROUS CATASTROPHE FOR ME AND MY
NEIGHBORS.
WE LIVE ON NARROW, MOSTLY BRICK-PAVED OLD-FASHIONED STREETS.
WE HAVE NO PARKING NOW.
TRAFFIC ALREADY HAS TO STOP IF A BIGGER VEHICLE, EVEN AN
AMAZON TRUCK, IS TRYING TO MAKE ITS WAY UP BREVARD DOWN BAY
STREET.
SCHOOLCHILDREN'S PARENTS LINE UP TWO TIMES A DAY AT GORRIE,
SO THAT IS DANGEROUS OVER ON GORRIE.
THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL AREA LIKE HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
THIS SITE IS TOTALLY UNLIKE THE EPICURIAN HOTEL ON HOWARD
WHICH IS NESTLE, ALMOST SNUGGLED INTO THE CROSSTOWN ELEVATED
PART BEHIND THE BUILDING OUT OF THE WAY OF TRAFFIC AND
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
A 120-ROOM HOTEL, RESTAURANT AND EVENT CENTER WITH
LARGE WEDDING PARTIES WILL BE A PARKING AND TRAFFIC
PLAYER FOR ME AND MY TENANTS IN MY FOUR UNITS BECAUSE WE
ALREADY HAVE LIMITED STREET PARKING.
BUT MY THIRD POINT IS THE MOST PERSUASIVE, SIMPLE AND
CONSERVATIVE.
DO NOTHING.
DO NOTHING.
THE SITE IS PRESENTLY ZONED FOR THESE KIND OF TOWN HOUSES.
PEOPLE WANT THEM.
THEY LOVE THEM.
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH OF THEM IN OUR AREA.
YOUNG FAMILIES BUY THESE.
KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WALKING UP AND
DOWN SIDEWALK.
THESE ARE RIGHT ACROSS FROM BOBBI'S HOUSE, AND SHE DOESN'T
LIKE IT BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY BIG, BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU
THAT THIS IS THE WAY OF FUTURE, AND IT IS A PERFECT
OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TWO-ACRE SITE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:46:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
08:46:53PM >> SUSAN TURNER.
I LIVE AT 702 SOUTH FIELDING.
AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE LAND USE ISSUE.
AND I DID SOME RESEARCH.
IF A PROJECT CALLS FOR 120-ROOM HOTEL, A 230-SEAT
RESTAURANT, A 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT EVENT SPACE, A MARKET, EIGHT
TOWNHOUSES, 21 CONDOS, A GYM, A SPA AND TWO POOLS.
RESEARCH REGARDING STAFFING ALONE FOR THOSE AREAS REVEALED
AN ASTOUNDING NUMBER OF PERSONS REQUIRED TO OPERATE THOSE
VENUE.
ACCORDING TO A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL RESTAURANT OWNER IN THE
TAMPA BAY AREA, AN UPSTATE SCALE RESTAURANT OF THIS SIZE
REQUIRES 85 TO 100 STAFF MEMBERS, NOT INCLUDING VALET.
ACCORDING TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR UPSCALE HOTELS IN THE
AREA, A HOTEL OF THIS SIZE REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE STAFF
MEMBER PER ROOM.
THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE FOR A LUXURY HOTEL.
STAFF FOR A 4,000-SQUARE-FOOT EVENT SPACE, OF COURSE,
ACCORDING TO EVENTS, 4,000-SQUARE-FEET CAN ACCOMMODATE 200
TO 500 PERSONS.
A CONSERVATIVE REQUIREMENT FOR A 300-PERSON EVENT IS 30
STAFF MEMBERS DEPENDING ON WHETHER THAT EVENT IS A COCKTAIL
RECEPTION OR A FULL-BLOWN WEDDING DINNER.
IF YOU COUNT THE BODIES, GUESTS AND STAFF FOR JUST THE THREE
MAJOR VENUES.
A LOW BALL ESTIMATE IS 890 PERSONS AT A TIME IN THAT ONE
SMALL BLOCK.
THE GYM, THE SPA, THE MARKET, THE POOL, THE VALET STAFF, THE
CLIENTS IN THOSE LOCATIONS, THE CONDO RESIDENTS, THEY ARE
WELL OVER 1,000 PERSONS HIGHLY INCREASE DENSITY.
YOU COUNT THE VEHICLES FOR THOSE TWO NARROW TWO-LANE STREETS
TWO OF WHICH ARE OLD BRICK STREETS.
IT IS SAFE TO ASSUME THAT CANNOT UBER OUT OF AND LIMITED
OPTIONS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT IN TAMPA MANY GUESTS WILL DRIVE
IN, SO YOU HAVE A HIGHLY INCREASED DENSITY AND VEHICLES.
THANK YOU.
WE URGE YOU NOT TO CHANGE THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION.
08:49:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER.
GOOD EVENING.
08:49:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, I THINK, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS
JOHN BEALIC, SOUTH FIELDING AVENUE.
AND I HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE; I AM A HISTORIAN.
SO YOU MAY KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO.
I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME A FEW MINUTES
TO SPEAK ABOUT A PROJECT NEAR AND DEAR TO MY MIND AND MY
HEART.
I TAUGHT AMERICAN HISTORY FOR 50 YEARS AT ASF AND PROUD OF
IT.
LIKE MOST YOUNG FACULTY MEMBERS, I WANTED TO BUY A HOME IN
TAMPA, AND I WATCHED THE EVOLUTION OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
SULPHUR SPRINGS, WEST TAMPA, AND, YES, HYDE PARK.
PLACES WITH CHARACTER.
OH, HOW I WISH FOR THE RESOURCES AND THE LUCK TO FIND A
HOUSE IN SUCH A NEIGHBORHOOD.
NO COOKIE CUTTERS.
NO PREFAB HERE.
BUNGALOW DESIGNS.
WOW.
CENTURY-OLD RESIDENCES OF BRICK, WOOD, WITH FRONT PORCHES.
OH, MAN, AN THEN -- IN 1979, I STILL DID NOT HAVE THE
RESOURCES, BUT SOME LUCK CAME MY WAY.
SURE, THERE WERE PROBLEMS.
FEW FOLKS WANTED TO LIVE IN HYDE PARK -- PARTS OF HYDE PARK
WERE MARGINAL.
IF YOU CAN REMEMBER THOSE DAYS, THERE WAS SOME CRIME SOME
CRUMBLING HOUSE TOO.
WHAT CHANGES HAVE TAKEN PLACE.
MY WIFE AND I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY FROM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE WITNESSED THE MONEY, THE COMMITMENT, AND THE SWEAT
EQUITY DEDICATED TO EXPLORE THE AREA THAT IT HAS BECOME
TODAY.
AS A HISTORIAN, I AM DEEPLY TROUBLED AT THE DAMAGE THAT WILL
BE DONE TO ONE OF TAMPA'S FEW UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOODS.
100-YEAR-OLD HOMES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THEY ARE SPECIAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
RESIDENTS KNOW THEY STRUGGLE PHYSICALLY AND FINANCIALLY TO
ENSURE THAT SPECIAL NATURE.
EVENTS OF ALL SORTS, AS YOU KNOW, OCCUR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR,
INCLUDING STREET MARKETS, ART SHOWS AND, OF COURSE,
GASPARILLA.
HOW MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ANNUAL OPEN HOUSES AND
HOME VISITS?
DOZENS OF LOCATION AND VISITORS WALK BY OUR HOME EACH DAY
OFTEN BEING PULLED ALONG BY THEIR DOGS.
HOW PRECIOUS WE REGARDED OUR HOMES, SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES,
ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND RECONSTRUCTION MAY BE IN THE FUTURE,
BUT A CROWDED DEVELOPMENT OF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN THE
HISTORICAL LEGACY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE LEFT WITH A QUESTION.
WHAT IS IT PROGRESS?
I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL.
08:52:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:52:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DONNA MORRISON.
THANK YOU.
PATTY CUBER.
THANK YOU.
CINDY GODING.
THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
08:53:24PM >> CAN I HAVE THE -- CAN I HAVE THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE.
08:53:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COMES UP AUTOMATICALLY.
WILL POP UP A SECOND.
YOU CAN START WITH YOUR NAME, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE
MINUTES.
08:53:36PM >> MY NAME IS KATHY DURBIN, AND I AM PRESIDENT -- YOU ARE
RIGHT, SIX MINUTES; IS THAT RIGHT, MR. SHELBY?
08:53:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY APOLOGIES, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.
08:53:46PM >> KATHY DURDIN, TAMPA OF REALISTIC ARTIST, A NONPROFIT
ART CENTER THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
SINCE 1968, TAMPA REALISTIC ARTISTS HAVE OWNED AND OPERATED
THE OLD HYDE PARK CENTER AT WEST SWANN AVENUE.
A VITAL CITY AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE AS WE OPERATE THE ONLY
NONPROFIT ART CENTER WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF TAMPA.
OUR BUILDING IS BETWEEN BOULEVARD AND BREVARD ONE BLOCK WEST
OF SUB PROPERTY.
1100-SQUARE-FOOT OLD HYDE PARK ARTS CENTER WAS ORIGINALLY A
ONE-ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE.
THE ORIGINAL SCHOOLHOUSE WEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND
CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE OF THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I WANT CONTINUE TO POINT OUT.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT THE SCALE OF OUR BUILDING
AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE STREETSCAPE THERE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND IN THE MIDDLE
OF RENOVATING OUR BUILDING'S FACADE WITH THE PRESERVATION
GRANT.
I LIVE AT 1820 WEST RICHARDSON PLACE AT HYDE PARK HISTORIC
DISTRICT FOR 27 YEARS.
HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HYDE PARK GARDEN
CLUB.
I WAS PRESIDENT WITH HHPNA.
I WORKED WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND VIN TONE, THE PARK SIGNS
FROM BAYSHORE TO SWANN POND TO THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY
RESULTING IN SUGGESTED CHANGES IN BOTH PARKING AND STREET
SIGNAGE.
PROPOSED COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WILL BE A PERSONAL CHANGE TO
THE PROPERTY AN RESULT IN CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY IN PERPETUITY.
A CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THE PROPERTY TO
COMMERCIAL WILL OPEN UP THE PROPERTY TO A WIDE VARIETY OF
USE THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
USES THAT ARE FAR MORE INTENSIVE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY
ALLOWED.
NOT COMMERCIAL AREA.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
LOOK AT OUR BUILDING RIGHT HERE.
HERE THIS IS THE SIZE OF BUILDINGS IN THE BLOCK TO THE WEST
OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT PLAN CALLS FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS
ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS
CONSISTENCY WITH THE CURRENT PLAN.
WE ARE AGAINST CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW THIS
MUCH MORE INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT, AND THESE PROPOSED
COMMERCIAL USES WILL HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS INCONSISTENT
WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT.
STREETS SURROUNDING THIS PROJECT ARE VERY NARROW, AND WE
HEARD THIS BEFORE.
AND I WANT TO POINT OUT, THERE ARE IS BREVARD RIGHT HERE.
LOOK AT HOW NARROW THAT IS.
IT WOULD NOT SUPPORT THE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT.
WILL RESULT IN TRAFFIC THAT IS IN EXCESS OF WHAT IS IN THE
AREA AND RESULT IN DANGER OF STUDENTS OF NEARBY WILSON
AND GORRIE.
PARKING IN AREA IS INADEQUATE.
YOU HEARD THAT AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE.
OUR STUDENTS PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
ALL THE PARKING.
WE HAVE WORKSHOPS FROM 9 IN MORNING UNTIL 9:00 AT NIGHT.
WE HAVE ONLY THREE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES.
LET'S GO TO THE BACK.
YEAH.
THIS IS US.
WE HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES THERE SO PEOPLE ARE PARKING
ON STREET.
THIS IS WHERE OUR STUDENTS HAVE TO PARK.
THEY ARE WALKING FROM THEIR PARKED VEHICLES CARRYING ART
SUPPLIES TO THE BUILDING RESULTING IN PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE VOLUME OF THE SUPPLIES WE ARE
GENERALLY BRINGING.
THIS IS WHAT THEY BRING TO US, AND I BRING THE SAME AMOUNT.
WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR THE
WALKABILITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADVOCATE FOR TRAFFIC
CALMING ON SWANN.
OUR OBJECTIVES ARE TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH
SWANN.
SWANN USED TO BE A RACETRACK.
IT USED TO HAVE A VERY WIDE LANE COMING OFF OF BAYSHORE.
AND CARS JUST ZOOM DOWN SWANN.
WE WORK WITH CITY MOBILITY AND RESULTED IN BOTH NARROWING
THAT STREET.
WE ADDED PARKING AND A BIKE LANE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT -- I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A BIKE LANE AND PARKING NOW.
MUCH MORE VISIBLE HERE.
HERE IS THE PIPELINE, AND HERE IS THE PARKING AND RESULTED
IN THE NARROWING OF SWANN, REDUCING TRAFFIC ON SWANN.
AND BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU ARE GOING TO BE
NEGATING EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE FOR LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS
TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ON SWANN AVENUE.
AND CREATE A SIGNIFICANT PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS
BTHAT DON'T EXIST RIGHT NOW.
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE ALLOWED WILL CHANGE TO
THE COMP PLAN WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON SWANN,
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR ATTENDEES AND
STUDENTS OF GORRIE AND WILSON AND OTHERS WALKING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WOULD INFRINGE ON THE ALREADY LIMITED PARKING.
WE DON'T HAVE PARKING IN THE AREA TO BEGIN WITH.
SURROUNDING STREETS ARE RELATIVELY NARROW AND CANNOT HANDLE
THE AMOUNT EVER PARKING AND COMMERCIAL NEEDS THAT
DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING.
I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
08:59:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, KATHY.
NEXT SPEAKER.
08:59:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JEN SMITH.
CARRIE CAVALINO.
JENNY SMITH.
OKAY, IN THE BACK.
IF YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING.
I CAN'T SEE.
AND JENNIFER SILEN.
OKAY.
THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
09:00:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAMELA, START WITH YOUR NAME AND
SIX MINUTES.
09:00:23PM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANELLA, AND THIS LAND USE CHANGE MUST
BE DENIED.
THIS IS A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT.
PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL HYDE PARK
HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD FLOOD ZONE.
THERE ARE AT LEAST 20 TO 22 RESIDENTIAL HIGH-RISES AND
TOWERS NOW ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FLOOD ZONE.
THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCREASE DENSITY AND
FLOODING.
NUMBER ONE, BY IMPACTING THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD BY AFFECTING THE AVAILABILITY TO RESIDENTS FOR
HURRICANE PUBLIC SHELTER SPACE.
09:01:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN CCTV PUT THESE UP ON THE MONITORS?
09:01:11PM >> IT IS NOT UP THERE?
09:01:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOW IT IS.
GO AHEAD.
09:01:15PM >> OKAY.
NUMBER TWO, IMPACTS THE SAFE AND TIMELY EVACUATION OF
RESIDENTS AS THIS IS AN EVACUATION ZONE.
THIS PROPOSAL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF IRRESPONSIBLE
DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND OUR FLORIDA STATUTE 163177, WHICH LIMITS AND GREATLY
DISCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD FLOOD
ZONE.
INCREASED DEVELOPMENT BRINGS CATASTROPHIC POTENTIAL AS
EVIDENCED BY THE DEVASTATING 2024 HURRICANE FLOODING.
THE CITY OF TAMPA VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT 2025 REPORTS,
ONE, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS TO DETERIORATION, STORM SURGE,
SEA LEVEL RISE AND OVERDEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER TWO, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD A LOWEST AT THE NORTH END
LOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED SITE.
NUMBER THREE, THE LOW-LYING INLETS AT SWANN, MAGNOLIA AND
BAYSHORE INTERSECTION COULD SEE REGULAR HIGH TIDE FLOODING
BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE OUTFALLS AND ROADWAYS
INLET.
AS STORMWATER OUTFALLS ALLOW WATER INLAND.
THE VAULT PROPOSED TO FIX THE FLOODING IS USELESS.
THE CITY STORMWATER ENGINEER REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION
EXPLAIN TO ME THAT IT IS BASED ONLY ON CONCEPTUAL.
HE IS ONLY GIVING INFORMATION HE NEEDS TO KNOW.
HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE -- ABOUT IT BEING IN THE COASTAL
HIGH HAZARD FLOOD ZONE.
THE PROPOSED VAULT SHOWS IT IS CONNECTING TO OUR EXISTING
DRAINAGE INLET AT SWANN, MAGNOLIA, AND BAYSHORE.
THE SAME INLET I HAVE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
THESE PICTURES SHOW -- THE FIRST ONE -- THAT THIS CITY'S
ZONING SIGN IS BLOCKING THE INLET AND FLOATING IN THE WATER.
THEY ARE ALREADY FULL OF WATER.
NEXT ONE IS THE BANK OF TAMPA LOOKING INTO WATER.
IT ALWAYS HAS WATER IN IT.
IT NEVER DRAINS.
NUMBER THREE -- GO AHEAD AND SHOW THE REST OF THEM.
THE BAYSHORE INLET.
THEY ARE ALL FILLED.
HIGH TOWERS.
IT ALWAYS HAVE WATER.
DOESN'T GO DOWN.
DOESN'T DRAIN.
IT IS THERE.
ANOTHER ONE?
THIS ANOTHER ONE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IN THIS -- ALONG BAYSHORE ALREADY FILLED
WITH WATER.
ON.
ON NORMAL NO STORM, NO RAINY DAYS.
OUR BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NOW SHOWING SCENES OF DETERIORATION
WITH COLLAPSED SEAWALLS, CLOG OUTFALL, SIDEWALKS AND STREET
CAVE-INs.
EVEN PART OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD ROADWAY IS SINKING.
THAT IS A CAVE-IN.
VAULTS ARE NEVER MAINTAINED.
THEY END UP WITH COLLECTING TRASH DEBRIS, POLLUTANTS.
DEFINITELY NOT A FIX FOR OUR FLOODING.
WE NEED TORESTRICT DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA.
THIS PROPOSED AMOUNT IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE GOALS,
OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR
COASTAL MANAGEMENT.
I WANT TO TALK OF THE ETHICS, TRUST, AND INTEGRITY.
I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE HAS BEEN LACK OF ALL THREE WITH
THIS APPLICANT.
TACTICS HAVE BEEN USED BY THIS DEVELOPER TO POSTPONE PUBLIC
HEARINGS AT LEAST SIX TIME.
THEY EVEN GAVE FALSE INFORMATION TO SEVERAL PUBLICATIONS TO
MAKE IT APPEAR AS A DONE DEAL TO THE PUBLIC.
ONE PUBLICATION EVEN MADE IT THAT IT WAS NOW CURRENTLY BEING
BUILT.
AND FIXING THE PROBLEM, FLOODING PROBLEM.
THIS DEVELOPER EVEN REPLACED THE CONCRETE PARKING LOT
WITHOUT A PERMIT, WHICH I CAN VERIFY BY MISS SUSSMAN IN THE
CITY CONSTRUCTION PERMIT REQUIREMENT.
RESIDENTS CANNOT TRUST THIS APPLICANT TO MILLION TO THROUGH
WITH PROMISES.
THEY ARE LACKING IN COMMUNITY CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
09:05:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:06:03PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, NAY NAME IS GABE
QUINN.
A RECENT U TAMPA GRADUATE.
I WORK FULL TIME IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT FOR THE MAGNOLIA
HOTEL PROJECT.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF CITY, AND THAT IS WHY I'M
HERE TONIGHT.
THIS PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR CITY NEEDS.
IT WILL INTRODUCE INCREDIBLE PUBLIC AMENITIES TO BAYSHORE,
AN AREA THAT FEELS ENTIRELY CUT UP A TO ME AND OTHER YOUNG
PROFESSIONALS.
AS SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, THERE ARE MANY OTHER CITIES THAT
ARE NEW, BOOMING AND COOL LIKE NASHVILLE AND AUSTIN, BUT
PROJECTS LIKE THIS MAKE ME FEEL CONFIDENT AND HOPEFUL IN MY
FUTURE HERE IN TAMPA BAYSHORE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST
CORRIDORS IN OUR CITY, AND WHENEVER I HAVE FRIENDS OR FAMILY
COMING TO VISIT, I ALWAYS SHOW THEM BAYSHORE, RIGHT, THEY
ALWAYS ENJOY IT.
I WANT THEM TO EXPERIENCE IT TO THE FULLEST.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE ONLY ACCESSIBLE VIA
WALKING OR DRIVING.
WHENEVER ANYONE VISITS, THEY LEAVE TAMPA.
WHAT DO THEY REMEMBER MOST?
IT IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
NOW THINK, INSTEAD OF JUST THEM BEING ABLE TO WALK OR DRIVE
DOWN THERE, THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO STAY ON THAT
BOULEVARD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE CAN SOMETIMES BE DIFFICULT, BUT AS
I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS DONE AN
INCREDIBLE JOB OF ENGAGING WITH COMMUNITY AND ITS
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, AND THEY HAVE MEANINGFULLY SCALED BACK
PROBABLY BASED ON THOSE CONCERNS.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT RESPECTS BOTH THE CHARACTER AND
THE OVERALL IDEALS OF BAYSHORE AND HYDE PARK.
THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
THE PROJECT INTRODUCES SEVERAL PUBLIC SPACES.
THESE AMENITIES SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PROVIDE A
WELCOME PLACE FOR VISITORS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.
WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE PLACES LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY ALONG
BAYSHORE.
THIS PROJECT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME BECAUSE IT CREATES A NEW
AND EXCITING MIXED USE SPACE.
I WORRY IF THIS DOES NOT PASS, WHAT WE WILL SEE IS A
MONSTROUS, INCOMPATIBLE, INCONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE
DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER OR LITTLE TO NO CONTROL OVER.
PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE THAT CHOICE.
THIS IS A VERY WELL THOUGHT-OUT PROJECT THAT SERVES BOTH
OUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I URGE TO YOU VOTE YES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:08:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, ANDSTART WITH YOUR NAME.
09:09:02PM >> FRANK BALOSA, 509 WEST BAY STREET IN CHRISTIAN
CONDOMINIUM AND AN OFFICE BUILDING ON BAY STREET, JUST
ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED PROBABLY.
WE ARE -- I AM NO GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE STAFF THAT IDENTIFIED ALL OF
INCONSISTENCIES AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS WITH THE ISSUES THAT
THEY WILL ENCOUNTER.
OUR FOCUS IS ON TRAFFIC, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THERE IS
GOING TO BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND WE HAVE AN ENGINEER.
TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
09:09:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO FACE THIS WAY.
09:09:38PM >> SORRY.
ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OKAY.
09:09:40PM >> DETAIL THE INCONSISTENCY IN THEIR OWN TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
DON SKELETON WITH MERCK.
09:09:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
GUIDO, WILL YOU DO THAT.
09:10:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
09:10:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GUIDO WAS GOING TO LAW SCHOOL.
09:10:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA QUARTER.
09:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
A ROSS MILLER.
WE HAVE A ART MILLER.
LESLIE HAVEY, ALL RIGHT, ALICE BALOSA.
RIGHT THERE.
AND DAVID EZELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FIVE EXTRA MINUTES.
YOU HAVE EIGHT MINUTES TOTAL.
09:10:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HI, LESLIE BACK THERE.
09:10:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OH, I AM SO JEALOUS, GUIDO.
09:10:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.
09:10:43PM >> GOOD EVENING.
09:10:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, MR. SHELBY.
STATE-OF-THE-ART WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.
09:11:05PM >> GOOD EVENING, DON SKELETON, AND I AM A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
I AM A REGISTERED EI THROUGH THE BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEERING, ROADWAY SAFETY PROFESSIONAL AND GREATER TAMPA
INSTITUTION OF TRANSPORTATION PRESIDENT.
I SERVE ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
BETWEEN 2020 AND 2025 AND A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND ON
TRAFFIC AND PLANNING.
I REVIEW TRAFFIC STUDY AND SEVERAL INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE
METHODOLOGY SUBMIT AND THE STUDY ITSELF.
SO TO START, THIS IS THE COPY OF MOST RECENT SITE PLAN
SUBMITTED THROUGH ACELA.
THIS DOES NOT SHOW EVERYTHING SPOKEN HERE TONIGHT BY BOTH
THE OPPOSITION AND THINGS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
I HEARD THINGS OF EVENT SPACE.
THINGS ABOUT A RESTAURANT.
PEOPLE CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE THEIR FAMILY THERE.
I DON'T SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN AND HOW COULD IT BE
ANALYZED.
IMPACTS THAT ABSOLUTELY DO NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
ON THIS SITE PLAN, THERE IS A CAFE SHOWN.
WE HAVE ALL BEEN TO LA SEGUNDA NORTH OF YBOR AND SEEN
TRAFFIC IMPACTS OF THAT.
A CAFE THIS SIZE WILL HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND WAS IGNORED
EVEN THOUGH ON THEIR OWN SITE PLAN.
HE WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWING ONE,
TWO, THREE, FOUR -- FOUR DRIVEWAYS BUT ON THE TRIP
DISTRIBUTION PROVIDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THEY ROUTE NO
TRIPS DOWN ANY OF THOSE STREETS.
IT IS INTERESTING.
ONLY STREET THEY DO ROUTE TRIPS ON IS SWANN AVENUE WHICH
DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS SO I AM NOT SURE HOW THAT ONE IS
POSSIBLE.
WE ARE SEEING THE PROJECT AREA BUT IF WE ARE LOOKING AT
THIS, WOULD PICK FOUR STEADY INTERSECTIONS, THAT'S WHERE THE
HIGHEST IMPACTS WILL BE.
MOST OF THE PROJECTS ARE GOING THROUGH AND EACH ONE IS
IGNORED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT TO THE -- TO THE -- SO THIS IS
ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY.
THREE STUDY INTERSECTIONS.
TRAFFIC STUDY HAS FOUR, BUT, AGAIN, NONE OF THESE ARE THESE.
I WANT TO POINT OUT IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, A TRAFFIC STUDY
SUBMITTED THROUGH ACELA AND NO ANALYSIS PART OF THAT STUDY.
NONE WHATSOEVER.
COMMENTS FROM THE CITY, AND I WILL PRINT IT OUT IF YOU WOULD
LIKE, NO ANALYSIS.
YOU NEED TO REDO IT.
FEW WEEKS LATER, THEY SUBMITTED AN UPDATED STUDY --
09:13:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO TIE THIS TO THE FUTURE LAND
USE.
WE ARE ON THE FUTURE LAND USE.
09:13:41PM >> HAS TO DO WITH THE LAND USE.
IF YOU CHANGE THE AND WILL USE AND ALLOW THESE KIND OF --
THE TRAFFIC UP PACTS WERE NOT ANALYZED.
HOW CAN YOU CHANGE THE LAND USE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT WILL
DO WITH THE TRAFFIC NETWORK.
09:13:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME
KIND OF CONNECTION.
09:13:56PM >> WITHIN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT WILL GO ON HERE.
WHAT THEY SHOW RIGHT HERE IS SOMETHING I HAD OUR SITE CIVIL
TEAM LOOK AT AND THEY SAID EXTREMELY NOT ORDINARY.
A DRIVEWAY INTO A TWO-WAY STREET.
A STREET THEY DIDN'T ROUTE TRIPS DOWN.
THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION OF A SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS DONE
AT THIS INTERSECTION.
WITH THIS MANY TRIPS WITH A LAND USE -- AM I GOING --
09:14:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THIS PRESENTATION NEEDS TO WAIT
FOR THE ZONING.
NOT THIS FUTURE LAND USE.
YOU ARE NOT TYING IT TO CHANGE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE.
09:14:36PM >> SHOULD I WAIT UNTIL THAT ITEM COMES UP?
09:14:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WHERE YOU ARE GOING IS BASICALLY WHERE
YOU ARE AT, I WOULD SAY YES.
09:14:46PM >> ALL RIGHT.
09:14:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WILL HAVE THE TIME.
IF YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER WAIVERS, YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME
AMOUNT OF TIME.
THANK YOU.
09:14:53PM >> IF CCTV CAN CALL UP MY VIDEO, AND I WILL GIVE YOU MY CUE
TO START IT.
I HAVE LIKE A TEN-SECOND LEAD IN.
09:15:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BOBBI O'BRIAN.
09:15:06PM >> I WAS GOING TO GET TO IT.
I WORE A TAG SO I KNEW.
IS IT --
09:15:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY WILL GET IT UP HERE IN A SECOND.
09:15:18PM >> OKAY.
09:15:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN SING.
09:15:20PM >> I AM JUST GOING TO SAY, I AM DOING A JULIA ROBERTS
IMPRESSION.
DON'T JUDGE ME TOO HARSHLY.
09:15:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL SEE IT.
SAY YOUR NAME.
09:15:32PM >> BOBBI O'BRIAN.
OKAY, I AM BOBBI O'BRIAN, AND I AM JUST A HYDE PARK HOMEOWNER
STANDING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ASKING YOU TO PRESERVE MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
START THE VIDEO, PLEASE.
09:15:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PUT A PAUSE ON HER TIME.
09:15:53PM >> WE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN HISTORIC HYDE PARK.
BECAUSE IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND ON A BRICK STREET.
09:15:58PM >> CAN YOU ROLL IT BACK PLEASE.
YOU MISSED THE INTRO.
09:16:04PM >> ROLL IT BACK.
09:16:06PM >> NEVER COULD WE IMAGINE A HOTEL COMPLEX --
09:16:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOUR TIME IS NOT GOING.
09:16:12PM >> THANK YOU.
I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT A THUMB DRIVE, OR I DID.
09:16:24PM >> 40 YEARS AGO, WE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN HISTORIC HYDE PARK
BECAUSE IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND ON A BRICK STREET.
WE ACCEPTED THAT MEANT A YEARLY GASPARILLA INVASION, BUT
NEVER DID WE IMAGINE A COMMERCIAL HOTEL COMPLEX MIGHT
OPERATE 24-7 NEXT DOOR.
LET ME SHOW YOU MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE ON BAY STREET, A HISTORIC BRICK ROAD PROTECTED BY
CITY ORDINANCE.
IT IS THREE BLOCKS LONG, ONLY 24 FEET WIDE, AND YET
DEVELOPERS PLAN TO MAKE IT A TRUCK ROUTE FOR DAILY
DELIVERIES AND GARBAGE PICK-UP.
THIS ENTIRE BLOCK IS DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WITH
LOW-IMPACT OFFICES.
AND SO IS ACROSS BAY STREET, BUT IF A CMU-35 LAND USE IS
ALLOWED, SHOPPING MALLS, ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, ANY GENERAL
COMMERCIAL USE CAN BE BUILT.
THIS IS MAGNOLIA, THE OTHER BRICK ROAD RECENTLY REPAIRED
BECAUSE TRAFFIC ALREADY IS TOO HEAVY.
YET MAGNOLIA WILL BECOME THE MAIN ROAD FOR THE HOTEL,
RESTAURANT AND CONDOS.
THIS CORNER OF MAGNOLIA, SWANN AND BAYSHORE ALWAYS FLOODS
FROM STORM SURGE.
THE ENTIRE TWO-ACRE BLOCK IS IN THE FEDERAL FLOOD ZONE, CHHA
WHERE DENSITY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO IT BE INCREASED AND COUNCIL
AGREED IN THEIR APRIL WORKSHOP LAST YEAR.
AND INTERSECTION IS SO DEADLY THAT THE CITY IS PLANNING A
TRAFFIC SIGNAL, YET THAT WON'T DECREASE TRAFFIC.
CARS BACK UP FOR BLOCKS WHEN SCHOOLS LET OUT AT GORRIE AND
WILSON AN WHEN THERE IS A LIGHTNING GAME.
PROPOSED CMU LAND USE WILL ONLY ADD TO THAT TRAFFIC
CONGESTION.
AND CONSIDER THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL
WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC AND THE TRANSIENT NATURE HOTELS BRING
TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:18:26PM >> EVERYTHING HERE IS DEMOLISHED.
09:18:30PM >> PLEASE, KEEP THE HISTORIC SCALE, DENSITY, HEIGHT AND MASS
IN LINE WITH OUR HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
DENY THIS COMMERCIAL LAND USE REQUEST.
09:18:42PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.
I AM PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NO ONE SHOWS YOU.
DEVELOPERS DID NOT SHOW YOU THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF OUR PART OF
BAY STREET WHICH ARE CLOSER THAN THE SECTIONS ACROSS SWANN.
WHEN THE DEVELOPER BOUGHT THE LAND, HE KNEW IT WAS
RESIDENTIAL.
HE KNEW THAT IT WAS PART OF THE CHHA.
HE KNEW IT WAS IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
HE HAS NO ENTITLEMENT TO A CMU-35, NONE.
PLEASE KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC AND RESIDENTIAL.
THAT -- I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
UT KIDS, GO -- BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS.
PLEASE PRESERVE IT.
09:19:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
09:19:32PM >> HELLO, MAX MAGAHEY AND A LIFE-LONG SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE MAGNOLIA COURT PROJECT AND NEEDED
AND MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.
WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY BUT REALIZE
THERE ARE TOO MANY EYESORES AND DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT ENOUGH PLACES TO INVITE FRIENDS AND
FAMILY TO STAY AND VISIT.
I BELIEVE THAT HOTEL LIKE THE MAGNOLIA WILL IMPROVE THE
QUALITY OF LIFE IN HYDE PARK AND INCREASE PROPERTY VALUE.
IT REPRESENTS WHAT CITY LIFE SHOULD BE ABOUT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS EXCITED TO SEE THIS
PROJECT COME TOP FRUITION.
WE MUST BE HONEST, ALTHOUGH OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS FEEL
THE SAME WAY, THERE IS A WELL-ORGANIZED, PROFESSIONAL
CAMPAIGN TO INTIMIDATE THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS KIND
OF WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE UNDERSTAND CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING AND ABOUT CONGESTION.
THEY ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS.
AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY
THE DEVELOPERS.
WHILE GOOD PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE, WE ARE CONCERNS THAT JUST
ABOUT EVERY EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN SOUTH
TAMPA WITH GOOD PROJECTS IS MET WITH AUTOMATIC HOSTILITY,
INTIMIDATION, AND EVEN PHONY PETITIONS OF OPPOSITION.
NO ONE WANTS TO RECEIVE HYDE PARK AND SOUTH TAMPA
OVERDEVELOPED, BUT WE DO WANT TO LIVE AND STAY IN A DYNAMIC
AND THRIVING COMMUNITY.
IT IS PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT ATTRACT MYSELF AND MY PEERS
WHO GREW UP IN SOUTH TAMPA TO MOVE BACK HERE WHEN WE
GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.
WE IMPLORE TO YOU CONSIDER SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT AND NOT
JUST THE LOUD VOICE WHO OPPOSE EVERYTHING.
HE DON'T WANT A TALLER APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WILL DO
LITTLE TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL HAPPEN UNDER
THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WHETHER THE CITY COUNCIL LIKES IT OR NOT.
THANK YOU.
09:21:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DR. RED.
09:21:35PM >> HANG ON.
MY NAME IS JOHN RED.
I LIVE AT 612 WEST SWANN, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE
STREET FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I LIVED THERE FOR SIX YEARS, AND I ALSO HAVE HAD A
DENTAL PRACTICE THAT OPERATES ON PLATT STREET NOT FAR FROM
THE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT CITY PLANNER.
I DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND ALL THE WORKINGS OF THINGS
BUT I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THIS PROJECT.
WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, HYDE PARK IS BECOMING URBAN.
BECOMING MORE OF A WALKABLE SPACE.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TRAFFIC COMING WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR
NOT.
BUT I HAVE COMPLETE FAITH IN THE DEVELOPERS THAT THEY HAVE
THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS
TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN HERE.
LIKE I SAID, INCREASED TRAFFIC IS COMING WHETHER I LIKE IT
FOR NOT.
I BELIEVE IT WILL BE SENSITIVE WITH FLOODING, BUT
CONSIDERING WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY WHICH WE
RECENTLY HAD HOMELESS ISSUES WITH PEOPLE CAMPING OUT AN
THINGS HAPPENING AT THE CORNER OF SWANN AND BREVARD.
SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE.
I THINK QUITE FRANKLY THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WELL WITH US.
THERE WILL BE KINKS ALONG THE WAY, BUT I CERTAINLY REALIZE
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
THANK YOU.
09:22:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
09:22:54PM >> MY NAME IS SAGE SEWELL.
HELLO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I FULLY SUPPORT THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL PROJECT.
GO SPARTANS AND DECIDED TO STAY HERE AND START MY CAREER.
I LOVE THE HISTORIC FEEL AND NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE HYDE PARK,
AND THIS PROJECT WILL NOT RUIN THE HYDE PARK AND SURROUNDING
AREAS BUT ENHANCE IT.
I BELIEVE THE MAGNOLIA HOTEL IS A WAY TO GROW AS A CITY
WITHOUT LOSING THE COMMUNITY AND HISTORY.
I AM IMPRESSED HOW DESIGN RESPECTS THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
DEVELOPERS HAVE COMMITTED TO KEEPING THE EXISTING HISTORIC
BUILDING ON-SITE.
THIS TEAM HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT FROM BEGINNING AND MADE
CHANGES BASED ON THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT.
THIS CANNOT GO UNNOTICED.
I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF NOT IN MY BACK YARD GOING ON HERE.
BUT WE LIVE HERE TOO.
WE WANT TO STAY IN SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS A FUN,
BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE.
THE MAGNOLIA TEAMS LIKE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TO BE HONEST, I AM CONCERN THIS PROJECT
GETS TURNED DOWN WHAT WE WILL GET IS ANOTHER GIANT-SIZED
APARTMENT BUILDING.
I UNDERSTAND UNDER STATE LAW, A BIGGER, TALLER APARTMENT
BUILDING CAN GO UP WITH A LOT LESS INPUT FROM THE NABBED AND
CITY.
PLEASE THINK OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE TO US AND OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I URGE TO YOU VOTE YES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:24:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:24:17PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
CAMERON VON THRONE.
7032 SOUTH WILLOW.
FOURTH GENERATION TAMPA RESIDENT.
AND I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN HYDE PARK FOR FOUR YEARS NOW.
AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A
HUGE BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ENJOY
THEMSELVES, AND I THINK THAT THIS HOTEL AND ALL THE AMENITIES
THAT COME WITH IT ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE USED BY RESIDENTS
IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND ALWAYS LOOK AT THINGS LIKE HOTELS.
MOST OF TIME PEOPLE ARE UBERING THERE.
THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT STANDING HERE AND PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT ON ANY OF
THAT.
I AGREE OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF IT UTILIZING THINGS IN THIS
CITY THAT ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO USE.
I LIVED IN MULTIPLE AREAS OF THE CITY.
I LIVED DOWNTOWN.
I LIVED SOUTH OF GANDY AND PLACE LIKE THAT.
I LOVE LIVING IN HYDE PARK BECAUSE OF ALL THE PLACES I AM
ABLE TO WALK TO AND UTILIZE.
THINGS LIKE BAYSHORE, RIVERWALK, I FEEL THIS WILL BE SUCH A
BENEFIT TO THE HOTEL -- I MEAN, TO THE HOSPITAL AND -- AND
OTHER AREAS THAT IT SHALL LIKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, BEING
ABLE TO BE STAY IN -- AND BE IN TAMPA ON BAYSHORE IS SUCH AN
UNIQUE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE.
AND I JUST AM IN HUGE FAVOR OF IT AND I HOPE YOU SEE IT THE
SAME WAY.
THANK YOU.
09:25:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
LET ME GUESS, A SPARTAN.
09:25:56PM >> YES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
I AM ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ.
I GRADUATED FROM UT.
I LIVE ON BAYSHORE WITH A COUPLE OF MY ROOMMATES AT 2706 WEST
BALLAST.
I AM ORIGINALLY FROM JERSEY AND MY PARENTS ARE HISPANIC
IMMIGRANTS.
TRUST ME THEY TAUGHT ME TO WORK HARD, STAY HUMBLE AND
APPRECIATE ANY PLACE THAT GIVE OPPORTUNITY.
TAMPA IS THAT CITY.
THAT IS WHY I WANT TO STAY HERE AND MAKE A FAMILY AND
EVERYTHING.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I STAYED BECAUSE AFTER GRADUATING
WAS THE ENERGY AS I WAS JUST SAYING.
TAMPA IS GROWING, AND IT FEELS ALIVE.
FOUR YEARS AGO, MY SCHOOL WASN'T EVEN AS CONSTRUCTED AS
WHERE IT IS AT NOW.
AN OLD POOL AND A NEW POOL WENT VIRAL ON TIK TOK AND EVERYTHING.
PEOPLE RUN HERE.
WALK HERE.
BAYSHORE JUST ATTRACTS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AS WE ALREADY EXPERIENCED A CITY, $500,000, 600,000 PEOPLE
ON BAYSHORE FOR GASPARILLA AND EVERYTHING.
TAMPA IS AMAZING.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE HOTEL PROJECT BECAUSE IT FITS A REAL
NEED.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
WHEN I GRADUATED MORE THAN 50 FAMILY MEMBERS THAT I DIDN'T
EVEN KNOW I HAD WANTED TO COME, FLY DOWN AND BOOK A HOTEL,
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE, WE HAD TO GET TWO OR THREE
AIRBNBs, HAVE PEOPLE INSIDE OF IT, AND IT WAS VERY COMPLICATED.
THE HOTEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL IS A VERY GOOD IDEA.
SO MOST U.T. STUDENTS DON'T HAVE CARS.
I DIDN'T HAVE ONE FOR YEARS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE HOTEL COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE JOBS FOR
THE STUDENTS.
I -- I WALKED AND WORKED AT A COFFEE SHOP IN DOWNTOWN.
AND GETTING JOBS CLOSER TO SCHOOL IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
STUDENTS.
AND ANOTHER APARTMENT BUILDING DOES DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING.
WE HAVE ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS POPPING.
A HOTEL BRINGS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND SUPPORTS TOURISM.
SUPPORTS UNIVERSITY EVENTS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
SUPPORTS SMALL BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN BAYSHORE.
THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING NEW, IT IS ABOUT
BUILDING THE RIGHT THING, AND I THINK THE HOTEL IS A GOOD THING
TO ADD FOR EVERYONE IN TAMPA.
I LOVE THIS CITY AND THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO STAY HERE.
AND I BELIEVE THIS HOTEL WILL BE A POSITIVE IMPACT FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COUNCIL.
09:28:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SPEAKER, PLEASE.
09:28:27PM >> AIDAN AORSKY AND I'M HERE TO SHARE SUPPORT OF THIS
PROPERTY.
AS A YOUNG RESIDENT, I WANT TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT IS ACCESSIBLE
AND POSITIVE CHANGE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SPACES.
WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IT DOESN'T JUST
ADD A BUILDING, IT UPGRADES PUBLIC AMENITIES ALONG BAYSHORE.
THIS PROJECT HAS MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE AND
ENJOY IN TAMPA'S MOST IMPORTANT WATERFRONTS.
THE DESIGN ITSELF REFLECTS THOUGHTFUL PLANNING.
IT FEATURES MODERN ARCHITECTURE THAT STILL RESPECTS THE
HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD ENSURING
PROJECT AND ENHANCES THE AREA RATHER THAN OVERPOWERING IT.
THE FLOOD ZONE CHALLENGE IN THIS AREA HAS EXISTED FOR MANY
YEARS, AND THERE ARE ALREADY MULTIPLE CONDO PROJECTS
PLANNED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION THROUGHOUT THE SURROUNDING
AREA.
GIVING THAT -- GIVEN THAT REALITY, I BELIEVE IT IS FAIR TO
ASK WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO RESTRICT GROWTH ON A SINGLE
LOT ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS PROPOSAL HAS TAKEN THOUGHTFUL STEPS
TO ADDRESS EXISTING CONDITIONS AND ALIGNED WITH WHAT IS
ALREADY HAPPENING AROUND IT.
THIS PROJECTS REPRESENTS A KIND OF SMART, BALANCED GROWTH
THAT MAKES THE CITY MORE LIVABLE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO WANT
TO STAY, WORK, AND CONTRIBUTE HERE LONG TERM.
IT IMPROVES PUBLIC ACCESS, RESPECTS NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER,
AND THOUGHTFULLY INTEGRATES THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROJECT COME TO LIFE AS A

POSITIVE ADDITION TO HYDE PARK, BAYSHORE, AND SOUTH TAMPA.
9:29:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:29:59PM >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL BURNS.
I'M DIRECTOR OF THE TYSON COMPANIES, A FAMILY OFFICE WHO
OCCUPIED THE EDGEWATER BUILDING FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
OUR OFFICE BUILDING IS LOCATED TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF THE
PROPOSED PROJECT, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT
IN FAVOR OF TODAY.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRULY SPECIAL TO ME AS IT SERVED AS A
SECOND HOME WHERE I DEDICATE TIME TO GROWING MY PROFESSIONAL
CAREER.
IT'S HERE WHERE I AM FORTUNATE TO TAKE REGULAR WALKS THROUGH
THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, ENJOYING THE TREE-LINED STREETS,
HISTORIC HOMES AND BUSTLING ENERGY OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
WHILE I HAVE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR SIX YEARS, LESS TIME THAN
MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS CITING OPPOSITION TODAY, IT'S BEEN A
LONG ENOUGH TIME TO SEE THE RAPID CHANGES HAPPENING IN THE
CITY, CHANGES THAT ARE UNIQUE, EXCITING, AND INSPIRING.
I'M SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC INVESTMENT DEPLOYED IN OUR CITY, I WOULD
LIKE TO REMIND HOMEOWNERS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT THAT
THESE INVESTMENTS ARE THE REASON THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME MOVE TO

THE CITY, BUILD BUSINESSES IN THE CITY, START FAMILIES IN
THE CITY, AND WORK VERY HARD TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MANY OF THESE RESIDENTS CALL HOME, A
NEIGHBORHOOD DID NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUE IF IT WERE NOT FOR
DEVELOPERS RISKING TIME AND CAPITAL TO IMPROVE THE CITY FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE LIKE ME.
THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A FEW KEY POINTS IN
SUPPORT OF MY PROJECT.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW THE PROJECT FITS WITHIN
THE CITY'S ADOPTED PLANNING FRAMEWORK.
THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS VERY CLEAR THAT
URBAN VILLAGES LIKE HYDE PARK ARE INTENDED TO SUPPORT
COMPACT, MIXED USE AND WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED
SITES.
THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL ENABLES.
REPLACES LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES WITH COORDINATED,
WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES THE SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOOD AND BAYSHORE AREA.
THE INCREASED INTENSITY ALSO GIVES THE CITY BETTER TOOLS TO
MANAGE INCREASED VISITS, A SERIOUS CONCERN OF THE
SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS.
BY MOST IMPORTANTLY ENABLING STRUCTURED PARKING, SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH THE .6 F. A.R. EXISTING WHILE ALSO
GIVING THE CITY ABILITY TO REQUEST LARGER SETBACKS, FEWER
CURB CUTS AND A DESIGN THAT ENCOURAGES A SAFE AND WALKABLE

ENVIRONMENT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW I ONLY
HAD THREE MINUTES.
IN CLOSING, REMIND THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE DECISION IS NOT
ABOUT ONE PROJECT.
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY CONTINUES TO FOLLOW THE VERY
PLANNING FRAMEWORK THAT IT HAS ADOPTED TO GUIDE RESPONSIBLE
GROWTH, INVESTMENT IN LONG-TERM VALUE CREATION.
CITIES THRIVE BY MANAGING GROWTH THOUGHTFULLY, PREDICTABLY
IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS FUTURE RESIDENTS AND GENERATIONS.
THE PROJECT IS EXACTLY THAT BY SETTING A CLEAR, RATIONAL
PRECEDENT FOR HOW TRANSITIONAL SITES SHOULD BE DEVELOPED
MOVING FORWARD.
FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS
REQUEST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE, AND YOUR CONTINUED
SUPPORT TO THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
THANK YOU.
9:32:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:05PM >> ELLEN WARE.
I LIVE ON DAVIS ISLAND AT 114 ADRIATIC.
I HAVE WORKED AT THE EDGEWATER BUILDING, THE SAME BUILDING
AS THE LAST GENTLEMAN FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, 30 YEARS I
GUESS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATIONS ARE -- AND

I'M NOT A LAND USE PLANNER, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY ARE
CALIBRATED TO MINIMIZE CONFLICTS AMONG LAND USES,
TRANSITION, FROM ONE INTENSITY TO ANOTHER.
A SHIFT FROM R-35 TO CMU 35 WOULD ENABLE MASSING HEIGHT,
ACTIVITY LEVELS, LOADING, AND OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS
THAT DEVIATE FROM THE PLAN'S ESTABLISHED COMPATIBILITY
EXPECTATIONS FOR THIS LOCATION.
AND THAT IS IMPORTANT NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT ON THIS
PARTICULAR LOCATION IN THIS PROJECT, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN IS THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PROMISE OF PREDICTABILITY, ONE
THAT HOMEOWNERS, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND LONG-TERM RESIDENTS
HAVE RELIED ON WHEN MAKING INVESTMENT AND LIFE DECISIONS.
THAT'S WHY ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
AD HOC INTENSIFICATION HERE WOULD SIGNAL THAT PREDICTABILITY
IS NEGOTIABLE, INVITING FURTHER PIECEMEAL DEPARTURES AND
CUMULATIVE INCOMPATIBILITIES.
BEEN HERE A LONG TIME AND HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING TO EAT.
THE REQUESTED UP DESIGNATION WOULD INTRODUCE AN INTENSITY
AND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL FABRIC, UNDERMINES THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN'S CORE OBJECTIVES, THROWS THE WHOLE IDEA OF LAND USE
PLANNING EVEN MORE INTO FLUX THAN IT IS BECAUSE OF THE
CONCERN THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THEN ABOUT
WHAT DOES IT EVEN MEAN?
WHEN I BUY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, INVEST IN THIS

NEIGHBORHOOD, BUILD SOMETHING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE A
BUSINESS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE A NONPROFIT ART CENTER
IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
I CAN'T COUNT ON THIS PLAN.
IT IMPOSES INTANGIBLE TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE HARMS WITHOUT
ANY CORRESPONDING PUBLIC BENEFIT.
HYDE PARK'S DISTINCTIVE CHARM DERIVES FROM ITS HUMAN SCALED
STREETS, LOTS, HISTORIC HOMES, CONTEXT SENSITIVE -- OUT OF
SIZE OUT OF SCALE CMU --
9:35:40PM >> 30 SECONDS.
9:35:41PM >> SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THIS AND
EVERYTHING ALL MY WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES HAVE
SAID AND DENY THAT REQUEST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
DID YOU SIGN A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
IS THAT WHY YOU'RE PEEKING THROUGH THE DOOR?
9:36:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ARE YOU MARYBETH HUNT.
THANK YOU, ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR.
9:36:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
IT WILL COME ON WHEN YOU DROP IT ON THE WOLF.
AS SOON AS YOU START, THEY WILL HAVE IT UP ON THE OTHER

MONITORS AS WELL.
SAY YOUR NAME AND THEY'LL PUT IT UP THERE.
9:36:49PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS LINDA HANNA.
MY ADDRESS FOR MY BUSINESS IS 600, SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
I'M THE THIRD IN THE ROW WHO HAS AN OFFICE IN THE EDGEWATER
BUILDING.
BILL PLATT AND I WERE THE NEW TENANTS AFTER IT WAS
RENOVATED.
BOTH CHILDREN ATTENDED GORRIE AND WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL AND
AFTER SCHOOL, THEY BOTH WALKED DOWN TO MY OFFICE IN THE
EDGEWATER ON MAGNOLIA ONLY A HALF BLOCK FROM THE PROPOSED
COMP PLAN CHANGE.
THE ANSWER IS WHETHER THE REQUESTED INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSITY THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE
PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATION IS CONSISTENT
WITH AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND
IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE LOCATION.
THE REQUESTED CHANGE TO ALLOW CMU 35 DESIGNATION WILL ALLOW,
AS YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED DENSITY AND
INTENSITY FOR A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING
HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, GYMS, RETAIL, AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE,
MORTUARIES.
AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS
OF GREATLY INCREASED MASS, SCALE, HEIGHT, AND WIDTH.

WHAT CONCERNS ME MOST IS THE INCREASE IN SCALE, MASS, AND
SIZE THAT IT WILL ALLOW ON THE PROPERTY.
ANY BUILDING THAT APPROACHES THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND WIDTH
ALLOWED BY CMU 35 WOULD BE TOTALLY OUT OF SCALE WITH ANY
EXISTING BUILDING WITHIN THE AREA BETWEEN DOWNTOWN, HYDE
PARK VILLAGE, BAYSHORE, AND THE CROSSTOWN.
BUT WHILE WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT PD
PROPOSAL, IT TURNS OUT IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE SIZE
AND THE SCALE OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE MASS.
AFTER LOOKING AT THE CITY'S GOOGLE MAPS OF THE AREAS
DESCRIBED, I FOUND NO BUILDING EVEN CLOSE TO THE SCALE AND
SIZE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING THAT FILLS THAT SITE WHICH IS
NEAR THE LIMITS THAT THE CMU 35 ALLOWS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THIS STUNNED ME WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE
SKY, YOU CAN SEE THAT TWO AND A HALF BANK OF TAMPA BUILDINGS
COULD FIT ON THAT WEBSITE IN THE PROPOSED BUILDING'S
FOOTPRINT AS SHOWN IN THIS GOOGLE SHOT.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH
FILLED AND WE'VE TAKEN A NOTCH OUT FOR THE BUNGALOW THAT
THEY ARE GOING TO USE AND KEEP AS IT IS.
THIS IS THE BANK OF TAMPA AND IN ADDITION, THIS IS HYDE PARK
METHODIST CHURCH.
THIS IS GORRIE.
THIS IS THE ALLEGRO.
THIS IS WILSON.

NONE OF THEM COME -- THERE'S JUST NOTHING CLOSE TO THIS SIZE
AND SCALE.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT EACH OF GORRIE, WILSON, ALLEGRO WOULD
FIT INTO ABOUT HALF OF THAT FOOTPRINT AND ALL HAVE DEEPER
SETBACKS, MORE GREENSPACES, AND ARE NOT NEARLY AS TALL AS
THIS IS GOING TO BE.
NONE OF THE CONDOMINIUMS IN HYDE PARK HAVE ANYTHING NEAR THE
FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
THE VALENCIA, YOU COULD FIT FIVE OR SIX VALENCIAS ON TO THAT
FOOTPRINT.
DIFFICULT TO VISUALIZE HOW TRULY GIGANTIC THE PROPOSED
BUILDING IS.
I'VE DRIVEN AROUND THE PROPERTY, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO
COMPARE, YOU MAY FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD FIT
THE ENTIRE RAYMOND JAMES FOOTBALL FIELD, BOTH END ZONES AND
THE PIRATE SHIP INTO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING
AND HAVE ROOM FOR ALMOST ANOTHER HALF OF A FOOTBALL FIELD
DOWN ONE SIDE OF IT.
I ASK YOU TO DENY THE INCREASE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
DESIGNATION, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR
ATTENTION.
9:40:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

9:41:02PM >> ADAM SMITH.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL TO SHOW SUPPORT
FOR THIS PROJECT ON MAGNOLIA.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM TAMPA GENERAL
HOSPITAL.
TAMPA GENERAL IS ONE OF THE LARGEST ACADEMIC MEDICAL CENTERS
IN THE COUNTRY.
EACH YEAR WE WELCOME THOUSANDS OF PATIENTS WHO REQUIRE
HIGHLY SPECIALIZED AND OFTEN LONG-TERM HEALTH CARE.
THIS COULD RANGE FROM ORGAN TRANSPLANTS TO ADVANCE CARDIAC
SERVICES, COMPLEX ONCOLOGY SERVICES.
THESE PATIENTS ARE OFTEN AND FREQUENTLY ACCOMPANIED BY
FAMILIES THAT COME WITH THEM, CAREGIVERS THAT MUST REMAIN
CLOSE TO THE HOSPITAL AS WE HAVE MORE EXTENDED STAY.
WE SEE PATIENTS FROM NOT ONLY ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA
BUT LITERALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR MAN OF OUR PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.
THE DEMAND FOR HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY
TO TAMPA GENERAL CONTINUES TO EXCEED THE AVAILABLE SUPPLY,
PARTICULARLY IN PEAK TREATMENT TIMES FOR OUR PATIENTS AND
DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
CONVENIENT AND PROXIMAL LODGING FOR THE PATIENTS, IT'S NOT
AN AMENITY FOR THE PATIENTS.
IT'S REALLY A REQUIREMENT IN THEIR TIME OF NEED FOR
THEMSELVES AND IN THEIR FAMILIES.

FOR THOSE REASONS, TAMPA GENERAL IS IN SUPPORT OF THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE ADDITIONAL HOTEL, NARROW CAMPUS, AND
BELIEVES THIS PROJECT WOULD NOT ONLY PROVIDE MEANINGFUL
PUBLIC BENEFIT, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BENEFIT THE PATIENTS, THE
FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE IN THE BROADER TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:42:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. BAKER, START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE
MINUTES, UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
9:42:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALAN COHEN.
9:42:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALAN CONE.
I SAW HIM BACK THERE.
ALAN, WAKE UP.
START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
9:43:01PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JIM BAKER.
I LIVE AT 610 WEST SWANN AVENUE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS
FROM THE PROPOSED SITE.
THIS IS THE LOOK OUT MY FRONT DOOR SO YOU SEE THE PROPOSED
SITE RIGHT THERE IN THE ASPHALT PARKING LOT.
I'VE BEEN A LIFELONG SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT AND I CARE DEEPLY
ABOUT HOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVOLVES.
WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I WAS NOT A BIG FAN,
BUT RATHER THAN DEFAULTING TO NOT IN MY BACKYARD OR FRONT
YARD, AS IT MAY BE, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS, NOT

THE FEAR.
I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD TRULY MEAN FOR MY
FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THE REALISTIC
ALTERNATIVES MIGHT BE.
THE REALITY IS SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT HERE.
I ATTENDED MANY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND HEARD THOUGHTFUL
PERSPECTIVES BOTH IN SUPPORT OF AND IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS RAISED AS WE ALL APPROACH THESE
ISSUES FROM DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS SHAPED BY WHERE WE LIVE,
OUR DAILY ROUTINES, AND OUR COMFORT LEVEL WITH CHANGE.
I'M ONE OF THE FEW SPEAKERS THIS EVENING THAT I'VE HEARD WHO
LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT.
I ALSO WORK JUST FOUR BLOCKS AWAY RIGHT OVER HERE.
I FREQUENT THE AMENITIES THAT HYDE PARK AND THE VILLAGE HAVE
TO OFFER.
I'M NOT SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN AN ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE REAL SKIN IN THIS GAME.
MY SMALL TOWNHOME COMMUNITY OF 15 UNITS, WHILE WE DON'T
ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, IT'S AT THE CORNER OF BAYSHORE,
SWANN AND BREVARD.
I'M IN THE TOWNHOME UNITS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS SWANN
AVENUE.
WE MET PERSONALLY WITH THE PROJECT REPRESENTATIVES MULTIPLE
TIMES TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS.

TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY LISTENED CAREFULLY AND MADE THOUGHTFUL
MEANINGFUL CHANGES BASED DIRECTLY ON OUR FEEDBACK.
A FEW MONTHS AGO, I HAPPENED TO SPEND A WEEKEND DOWN IN PALM
BEACH.
I STOP BY THE BRAZILIAN COURT HOTEL.
I NOTICED IT WAS ELEGANT, QUIET AND BLENDS BEAUTIFULLY INTO
THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, MUCH LIKE HYDE PARK IS.
FEATURES A RESTAURANT, POOL, SMALL EVENT SPACE, ALL ELEMENTS
COMPARABLE TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE.
WHILE I WAS THERE, I HAPPENED TO MEET THE OWNER, RICHARD.
I INTRODUCED MYSELF, EXPLAINED WHERE I WAS FROM AND SAID
THAT I HAD SOME QUESTIONS.
HE GRACIOUSLY SAT DOWN WITH ME AND SHARED HIS VISION FOR THE
MAGNOLIA COURT HOTEL.
I LEFT GENUINELY IMPRESSED WITH HIS ARCHITECTURE AND CLEAR
DESIRE TO BE A THOUGHTFUL STEWARD OF BOTH HISTORY AND THE
SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDERSTAND MAGNOLIA COURT PROPOSES 122 HOTEL ROOMS, 21
CONDOS, 8 TOWNHOMES.
THE 8 TOWNHOMES WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.
APPROXIMATELY UNDER THE PROPERTY'S EXISTING ZONING, 60 TO 71
RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALREADY BE BUILT.
2500 SQUARE FEET.
YOU HEARD THIS.
177,000 SQUARE FEET, BASICALLY IT IS THE SAME DEAL.

THIS PLAN IS COMPARABLE TO WHAT ALREADY ALLOWED TODAY BUT
DELIVERS FAR GREATER PUBLIC INVESTMENT AND DESIGN QUALITY.
ALSO INCLUDES LESS THAN HALF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS
THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE BUILT, WHICH IMPROVES ANY EVACUATION
CONCERNS.
THIS PROJECT WOULD REPLACE A COLLECTION OF AGING,
NONHISTORIC BUILDINGS AND ASPHALT PARKING LOTS WITH
THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED PROJECT THAT ENHANCES THE STREETSCAPE,
ACTIVATES AN UNDERUSED BLOCK, CONTRIBUTES MEANINGFULLY TO
THE CITY'S TAX BASE AND SERVES AS A TRUE GATEWAY TO HYDE
PARK FROM BAYSHORE AND DOWNTOWN.
RIGHT NOW, COMING OFF BAYSHORE DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD.
I REMEMBER WHEN OTHER PROJECTS WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION.
EPICUREAN, STOVALL, APARTMENTS ON HOWARD, WARNING, DOOM AND
GLOOM.
SIMPLY HAS NOT HAPPENED.
WHAT I DO NOTE, CHANGE WILL HAPPEN.
THE CHOICE BEFORE US IS WHETHER THE PLAN IS THOUGHTFUL, WELL
PLANNED AND COMMUNITY MINDED.
I BELIEVE MAGNOLIA COURT MEETS THE STANDARDS.
I LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN HYDE PARK SPANISH TOWN CREEK.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
9:46:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MS. BAILEY.

9:47:03PM >> HI.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
I HAVE A LOT OF FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
FIRST OF ALL, I'VE LIVED IN HYDE PARK 30 YEARS AND COME AND
GO REGULARLY.
BOTH OF MY GIRLS WENT TO GORRIE ELEMENTARY.
GUARDING OVER THEM AS THEY WENT TO WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THEY ARE STILL KIDS, THEY ARE NOW AT PLANT THOUGH.
I GO THERE ROUTINELY NOW BECAUSE MY AFFIRM MOTHER LIVES IN
ALLEGRO.
COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK I GO THROUGH THE AREA.
TODAY THE SITE IS A HAZARD.
IT IS A DISASTER IN TERMS OF WATER.
VERY LITTLE PERMEABLE AREA.
THERE IS A HODGEPODGE OF BUILDINGS.
IT DOESN'T TAKE A HURRICANE.
IT JUST TAKES A RAINSTORM AND IT FLOODS.
IF WE DO HAVE ANY KIND OF A STORM YOU CAN BET THE WEATHER
REPORTERS ARE DOWN THERE IN THEIR BOOTS SHOWING HOW BAD THE
WATER IS COMING OFF OF THERE.
IT NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE THERE ARE AN EYESORE.
THEY ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR ITS
GUIDELINES.
I THINK REDEVELOPING THE AREA AS A SET OF CONTIGUOUS PARCELS

ALLOWS FOR BETTER SOLUTIONS TO BE PUT FORWARD TO US AS THE
CITIZENS AND TO YOU AS THE DECISION MAKERS ON THE COUNCIL.
WITHOUT ANY CHANGE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BIG OL'
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL CAN BE BUILT THERE.
I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THAT AND I THINK IT WILL EXACERBATE
THE FLOODING PROBLEMS THAT I TALKED ABOUT AND I ALREADY SAID
I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ATTRACTIVE.
PROPOSING A LAND USE CHANGE FOR BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
YOU DON'T HAVE A BASIS TO DENY THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE ONE.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE NEED MORE.
COMMERCIAL MIXED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DISTRICT.
HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
FOR 20 YEARS, I LIVED DIRECTLY BEHIND HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
I NOW RENT THE HOUSE OUT FOR INCOME AND REGULARLY VISIT IT.
20 YEARS I FOUND IT COMPATIBLE WITH MY LIVING AND RAISING
CHILDREN.
FEW SITES THAT ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO VIEW OUR BEAUTIFUL
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND ITS WATERS.
HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT.
IT IS AN ADD TO THE PUBLIC.
IN SUMMARY, UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR CMU
AND THE USE OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

ARC VOTED TO APPROVE IT, I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD VOTE TO
APPROVE IT.
KEEP IN MIND WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, AS ALAN
REMINDED US SEVERAL TIMES IS WHETHER OR NOT WE UPDATE THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR LAND USE.
ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WILL COME LATER AND WE'LL DEBATE THEM
IN THE PD, IF WE'RE ALL STILL HERE TONIGHT, THAT'S ALL FINE.
STRATEGIC PLANS SHOULD NOT BE SET IN GOLD.
I WAS A BUSINESS CONSULTANT FOR 27 YEARS AND VERY SUCCESSFUL
ONE.
STRATEGIC PLANS ARE GUIDELINES, BUT YOU NEED TO AMEND THEM
AS CONDITIONS AND FACTS AND NEEDS PRESENT.
JUST LIKE THE LAWYERS IN THIS ROOM.
LAWS ARE CHANGED BASED ON CASE LAW.
CASES COME FORWARD.
SO THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE TO BOW DOWN ON HIGH, NOT CHANGE A
SINGLE THING IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT CONSISTENT
WITH MY LIFE EXPERIENCE.
PLEASE VOTE TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.
9:50:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. BAILEY.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:50:13PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
KEITH GRIMMENGER.
711 SOUTH FIELDING.
I'VE LIVED THERE OVER 40 YEARS, BEFORE THIS BECAME AN

HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I PROUDLY SUPPORTED THE FACT THAT THIS BECAME A HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
YOU ALL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE'RE EXPERIENCING GROWTH AND POPULATION EXPANSION.
WHERE IS THAT GOING TO GO?
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT STAFF AND THE AGENCIES AND WHERE THIS IS
INCONSISTENT, AND I AGREE.
IT IS INCONSISTENT.
BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT POSSIBLY THE REGULATIONS MAY NEED TO
BE CHANGED AS THE YOUNG LADY JUST SAID.
THE SEVILLE IN THE HEART OF THE DISTRICT COULD NOT BE BUILT
TODAY BASED UPON THESE REGULATIONS.
IT WAS THE JEWEL OF HYDE PARK.
SO WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE EDGES AND TRANSITIONS
WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES.
WE TALKED ABOUT A SEVEN STORY VERSUS A NINE STORY.
SEVEN STORY HOTEL IS TEN FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHT.
NINE STORY OFFICE BUILDING IS 13.
THIS IS ACTUALLY HALF THE HEIGHT OF THE BANK OF TAMPA.
AND IT SERVES AS A GOOD TRANSITION.
THE USE -- THE PROPOSED USES SUPPORT GREATER TRAFFIC
DISTRIBUTION THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
HOTELS TEND TO COME IN THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
RESIDENTIAL IS A.M. PEAK AND P.M. PEAK, CONFLICTING WITH THE

SCHOOLS AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD HAPPEN BY RIGHT.
THE DENSITY IN RESIDENTIAL INPUTS AND THE FACT THAT THIS
PROPERTY COULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE LIVE LOCAL, WHERE IT
COULD BE TWO, THREE, FOUR TIMES GREATER DEVELOPMENT.
THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT TO DANCE WITH THE DEVIL YOU
KNOW OR THE DEVIL YOU DON'T KNOW?
INFRASTRUCTURE, AS I MENTIONED, THE TRAFFIC IS ORIENTED TO
THE NORTH AND EAST STAYING AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE STORMWATER WOULD DEFINITELY IMPROVE THIS AREA.
ALL THE PICTURES OF THE FLOODING AND THE STORMS, THOSE ARE
RARE OCCURRENCES, WE CAN'T CONTROL MOTHER NATURE.
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
COOPER JOHNSON SMITH HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF CREATING AND
THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CREATING A BEAUTIFUL, HISTORIC,
AESTHETIC CELEBRATION OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
BUT DISTRICT LINES LIE ON MAPS.
THE GENERAL POPULATION IS NOT AWARE OF THESE DISTRICT AREAS.
THE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES THE BEST AWARENESS OF OUR
HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THIS DEVELOPMENT.
LASTLY, YOU KNOW THAT BAYSHORE AND SWANN IS A GATEWAY, A
GATEWAY THAT CAN HOLD THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A GREAT GATEWAY TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WITH RICH
HISTORIC AESTHETIC, BUT ALSO A GATEWAY TO THE URBAN CORE.

THAT GATEWAY GOES BOTH WAYS.
SO I ASK YOU, DOING A LITTLE SURVEY HERE.
IT'S ALMOST A 50-50 SPLIT.
AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT MY GENERATION AND THE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE SPOKEN HERE ARE KIND OF IN THE PAST IN REJECTING THIS.
BUT YOU SAW THE YOUNGER GENERATION.
THE QUESTION IS, COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO BE WITH THE PAST OR
WITH THE FUTURE?
9:53:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ENGINES SPEAKER, PLEASE.
EVERYBODY, SHH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
CARROLL ANN AND STEPHANIE, SHHH.
9:53:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CHRISTOPHER FORWARD.
ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
TOTAL OF FOUR.
9:54:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
9:54:16PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS BARRY KARPAY.
715 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS OF HYDE PARK FOR 25 YEARS.
I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS AND
PAST CHAIR OF THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE.
I'VE SERVED ON HYDE PARK PRESERVATION BOARD FOR TWO YEARS AS

CHAIR OF GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS -- RELATIONS.
IT WAS THROUGH THIS CAPACITY THAT I WAS INTRODUCED TO THE
MAGNOLIA COURT HOTEL PROJECT.
I BEGAN WORKING WITH TRUETT GARDNER AND HIS TEAM, MAKING
THEMSELVES AVAILABLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY ADDRESSED MANY CONCERNS.
I SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CHANGE.
HOWEVER, I AM EXTREMELY -- WANT TO DISCUSS AN EXTREMELY
SERIOUS MATTER THAT EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM, ESPECIALLY
THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE COMP PLAN CHANGE MUST UNDERSTAND RIGHT
NOW.
YOU HEARD MENTIONED THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.
THAT WAS ENACTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
IT INCENTIVIZES AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING FOR ELIGIBLE
PROPERTIES.
LIVE LOCAL BY PASSES LOCAL ZONING AND ALLOWS ELIGIBLE SITES
TO REACH FAR GREATER HEIGHT, DENSITY, AND SQUARE FOOTAGE.
AS A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, I AM AWARE OF THE FACT, BUT I
HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF ONE, SO I'M BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT.
HOWEVER, MY RESEARCH THAT I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND, IF
PROPERTIES MEET SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, THEN GOVERNMENT
OVERSIGHT, YOURS, IS STRICTLY -- IS SEVERELY RESTRICTED.
A PROPERTY WOULD BE ALLOWED TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGES IF IT IS A
QUALIFYING DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS BUILD TO THE HIGHEST DENSITY
ALLOWED UNDER THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

ACHIEVE THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE HEIGHT APPROVED FOR A
COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE
PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED RO-1.
PURSUANT TO A MEMO FROM ABBYE FEELEY, CITY ADMINISTRATOR,
DATED SEPTEMBER 25, 2025, WHICH YOU HAVE.
9:56:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M ALSO GOING TO REMIND YOU, THIS IS ABOUT A
COMP PLAN AND NOT A REZONING.
PLEASE STICK TO THE COMP PLAN.
9:56:54PM >> THE RO -- THIS SITE IS SHOWN AS ELIGIBLE WITH THE
SPECIFIC DENSITY, IT CAN USE LAND USE CATEGORY RMU-100, A
MUCH MORE INTENSIVE CATEGORY THAN WHAT THE APPLICANT IS
REQUESTING.
BY MY ROUGH CALCULATIONS, THIS PROPERTY QUALIFIES FOR
APPROXIMATELY 460,000 SQUARE FEET.
9:57:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AGAIN, I'M SORRY, SIR.
THAT IS A LAND USE CATEGORY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMP PLAN, NOT THE REZONING RIGHT
NOW.
9:57:26PM >> THIS IS NOT REZONING.
9:57:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
THIS IS A COMP PLAN DISCUSSION.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REZONING.
I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO KEEP IT TO THE COMP PLAN.
9:57:41PM >> SO LET ME CLARIFY.

IS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT BYPASSES THIS BOARD A SUBSTANTIVE
CONVERSATION THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE AWARE OF OR NOT?
9:57:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, BUT FOR THE REZONING.
9:57:54PM >> NO, FOR JUST THE COMP PLAN CHANGE.
9:57:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S FOR THE REZONING
AND NOT THE COMP PLAN.
BUT -- TRY TO STICK TO THE COMP PLAN.
9:58:14PM >> WELL, THE ROUGH CALCULATION I JUST MENTIONED OF 460,000
SQUARE FEET, THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT FROM THE ACT DOES NOT
RESTRICT THE HEIGHT EXCEPT TO 200 FEET WITHIN ONE MILE OF
THE PROPERTY.
LET ME REPEAT, I SUPPORT THE REQUEST, BUT I AM TERRIFIED
THAT IF COUNCIL DENIES THIS LAND USE APPLICATION, THIS
PROJECT COULD PROCEED BY ANYONE AS A LIVE LOCAL PROJECT,
THEREBY ELIMINATING NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT, REMOVING
COUNCIL'S OVERSIGHT AND WOULD OVERTAX THE SCHOOLS AND
EXACERBATE CURRENT TRAFFIC.
I IMPLORE YOU TO APPROVE THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO PROTECT
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM BECOMING A LIVE LOCAL PROJECT.
9:58:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
NEXT.
9:59:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:59:09PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JAMES ABBOT.
I LIVE AT 405 WEST AZEELE STREET, THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE
AREA WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
I AM HERE TO FORMALLY EXPRESS MY CONCERN REGARDING PROPOSED
LAND USE CHANGE TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A LARGE HOTEL
WITHIN THE HISTORIC SPANISH TOWN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ON THE DAILY, I WALK DOWN BAY STREET.
MY DAUGHTER ATTENDED GORRIE.
SHE NOW ATTENDS WILSON.
WE WALK DOWN THAT STREET TO AND FROM SCHOOL EVERY DAY.
THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THESE ARE MY CONCERNS.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THOUGHTFUL GROWTH AND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS PROPOSAL RAISES SEVERAL
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT I BELIEVE ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
CHARACTER, SAFETY, AND LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR ONE
OF A KIND HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
FIRST, INTRODUCTION OF A LARGE HOTEL WOULD INEVITABLY
INCREASE PARKING DEMAND, PUSHING OVERFLOW PARKING ONTO
NEIGHBORING STREETS THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE
SUCH VOLUME.
SECOND, INCREASED NOISE FROM GUESTS, EVENTS, DELIVERIES AND
ONGOING OPERATIONS THAT ARE 24 HOURS A DAY, A HOTEL NEVER
STOPS.
WOULD DISRUPT A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN LONG

VALUED FOR ITS CHARACTER AND QUIET.
TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS ANOTHER MAJOR CONCERN.
THE AREA ALREADY EXPERIENCES CHALLENGES, PARTICULARLY NEAR
GORRIE AND WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN THERE FOR A CAR LINE
PICKUP.
YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH.
ADDITIONAL HOTEL, RELATED TRAFFIC, INCLUDING RIDE SHARES,
SERVICE VEHICLES, DELIVERIES, WOULD FURTHER STRAIN LOCAL
ROADWAYS CREATING CHAOTIC TRAFFIC FLOW AND RAISING SAFETY
CONCERNS FOR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND STAFF.
THE SCALE AND USE OF THE LARGE HOTEL PROPOSED ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS
UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER, ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY, AND
SENSE OF PLACE ARE ASSETS THAT CANNOT EASILY BE RESTORED
ONCE COMPROMISED.
A SEVEN-STORY BUILDING WILL DWARF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
FINALLY, THE PRACTICAL REALITIES OF HOTEL OPERATIONS,
INCLUDING DISRUPTIVE TRUCK DELIVERIES, GARBAGE PICKUP AND
THE USE OF LOADING BAYS ON 24-FOOT WIDE STREETS, SUCH AS BAY
STREET, POSE A SERIOUS LOGISTICAL AND SAFETY CHALLENGE.
THESE ACTIVITIES WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT DAILY LIFE FOR
NEARBY RESIDENTS AND FURTHER CONTRIBUTE TO CONGESTION AND
NOISE.

I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER THESE THOUGHTS AND YOU VOTE NO.
10:02:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PAUSE FOR ONE SECOND.
HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT?
IF THERE'S ANYBODY DOWNSTAIRS THAT STILL HAS NOT SPOKEN AND
WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM, NOW IS YOUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO
COME AND GET IN LINE AND THEN I'LL CALL IT THE LAST SPEAKER.
NEXT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN IN ON THIS ONE.
10:02:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THREE NAMES.
SALLY D. MADISON BAPTISTE.
MELANIE V.
SIX MINUTES.
START WITH YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:03:03PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, APPRECIATE THE TIME.
MY NAME IS JACK KANE.
I AM A TAMPA RESIDENT.
I ALSO HAPPEN -- I USED TO WORK IN AN OFFICING MR. THAT
BORDERS THIS PROPERTY AT 601 SOUTH MAGNOLIA.
SO KNOW THIS AREA VERY WELL.
WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO TALKING ABOUT PARKING FOR HOTELS AT
A PREVIOUS HEARING.
BEFORE GETTING INTO THAT, I WANTED TO START WITH A COUPLE OF
POINTS THAT I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING, TO BE CLEAR, I'M
SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN

COMPENSATED BY ANYBODY.
SO A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING FROM THE ART
CENTER ABOUT THE THREE STREET PARKING SPACES AND TOTALLY
UNDERSTANDABLE CONCERNS.
THE DEVELOPERS HAVE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO OFFER ADDITIONAL
PARKING SPACES INSIDE THE PARKING FACILITY FOR THEM.
BECAUSE IF BUILT AS INTENDED, THIS WILL HAVE SURPLUS
PARKING.
THIS IS THE FIRST PARKING PROJECT I HAVE SEEN, MIXED USE OR
OTHERWISE, THAT WILL GENUINELY HAVE A SURPLUS OF SPACE, BAR
NONE.
AS FAR AS STREET PARKING GOES, I HAD ORIGINAL CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT AS WELL.
I REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE -- OUR PARKING LOT AT THE OFFICE
WAS RELATIVELY SMALL AND SOMETIMES WE HAD TO GO AND FIND
SOME STREET PARKING.
VALET FOR RESTAURANT VISITORS AND EVENT GUESTS WILL BE FREE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING -- IF YOU'RE GOING TO A HIGH-END
RESTAURANT, WHY WOULD YOU GO AND HUNT FOR STREET PARKING
WHEN YOU CAN USE VALET FOR FREE.
NEXT, AS FAR AS THE FLOODING GOES, I KNOW VERY WELL THAT IT
DOES NOT TAKE A HURRICANE TO FLOOD SOUTH MAGNOLIA.
IT TAKES A DECENT RAINSTORM.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAN AS THOUGHT OUT AS THIS.
I'M NO DEVELOPER.

NEVER SEEN A SUBTERRANEAN DRAINAGE ZONE, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL
YOU AS FAR AS THE GARAGE IS CONCERNED, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW
IT'S ZONED TODAY AND IF DEVELOPED INTO THE 71 CONDO UNITS,
IT COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO, LOOKING AT ABOUT 150 VEHICLES
CONSERVATIVELY.
IF DEVELOPED AS A PROPOSED, IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE,
THOSE 122 HOTEL ROOMS WOULD NOT BE OCCUPIED.
THEY WOULD BE EVACUATED.
YOU WOULD BE LEFT WITH 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND HAVE THREE
FLOORS OF PARKING WITH ABOUT 90 SPACES EACH.
THE TOP FLOOR OF THAT PARKING GARAGE IS 24 FEET ABOVE SEA
LEVEL.
IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA, THE BEST EXAMPLE
IS THE FORMER SHERATON, THE RIVERWALK HOTEL NOW, WHAT IT'S
LIKE WHEN YOU BUILD ALL YOUR PARKING IN SUBTERRANEAN
STRUCTURE AND WHAT RISK THAT POSES.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
IN THE EVENT OF A HURRICANE, NO HOTEL GUESTS WILL BE THERE.
YOU'LL HAVE 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IF ALL OCCUPIED, PARKING 24
FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
A FEW OTHER THINGS, RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC VERSUS HOTEL
TRAFFIC.
OUR COMPANY WORKS MAINLY WITH HOTELS BUT WE ALSO HAVE A
RESIDENTIAL PORTFOLIO AS WELL.
I HEARD IT EARLIER THAT RESIDENTIAL TRAFFIC PATTERNS

ARE A.M. AND P.M., AND THEY ARE VERY CONSISTENT.
I CANNOT EMPHASIZE HOW TRUE THAT IS.
THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT ARE ISSUES TODAY OF PEOPLE GOING
TO WORK AND PICKING THEIR KIDS UP AND COMING HOME, A
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE WOULD -- WHICH, AGAIN, COULD BE
BUILT TODAY AS ZONED, WOULD JUST FURTHER THAT ISSUE.
IT'S LAYERING TRAFFIC ON TOP OF TRAFFIC.
THE BEAUTY OF A HOTEL IN THIS SPACE, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC
FALLS INTO THE GAPS.
NOT ALL OF IT, BUT SOME OF IT, IF NOT MOST OF IT.
DEPARTURES, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS LEAVING BAYSHORE BOULEVARD
AND BEAUTIFUL HOTEL LOOKING OUT AT THE WATER AT 7 IN THE
MORNING.
PROBABLY NOT.
ON AVERAGE, PROBABLY SEE MOST OF YOUR DEPARTURES OCCURRING
BETWEEN 10 AND 11 A.M.
THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR THAT AREA.
AS FAR AS THE VALET GOES, IT'S NOT NEEDED BUT THE DEVELOPERS
HAVE STILL SECURED 84 OVERFLOW PARKING SPACES FOR WEEK
NIGHTS AND FOR WEEKENDS.
AGAIN, COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY, BUT JUST GOING TO SHOW -- I
HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT HERE.
FORGIVE ME, I HAVE NOT USED THIS BEFORE.
IT IS MAGIC.
THESE ARE REAL STATISTICS I SPOKE TO THE LAST TIME I WAS

HERE BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY GIVE YOU A TABLE.
SO THESE ARE SORTED INTO DOWNTOWN HOTELS, SUBURBAN HOTELS
AND RURAL HOTELS.
THESE ARE REAL HOTELS.
THE RURAL PROPERTIES, THINK ODESSA, WESLEY CHAPEL, LAND
O'LAKES.
MOST ARE IN THE WESTSHORE AREA.
EVEN IF WE TAKE SUBURBAN AND CATEGORIZE THIS DEVELOPMENT AS
SUBURBAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF ON THE FRINGE BETWEEN THE
TWO AND THEN TAKE THE HIGHEST DRIVING RATE THERE, AGAIN,
THIS IS DATA OVER THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS.
AVERAGE DRIVE-IN RATE FOR 122 HOTEL ROOM PROPERTY AT FULL
OCCUPANCY WOULD BE ABOUT 58 HOTEL OVERNIGHT VEHICLES AT MAX,
ABOUT 64.
IF WE THEN MOVED TO RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA, NOW,
RESTAURANTS AREN'T AS EASY TO CATEGORIZE LIKE HOTELS AS FAR
AS DRIVING PATTERNS GO, BUT WE HAVE AVERAGE OVER THE COURSE
OF A FULL DAY.
I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT EMPLOYEE PARKING AND
PARKING FOR 230 SEAT RESTAURANT, BUT THE REALITY IS, THEY
DON'T ALL COME AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WHAT YOU SEE OVER HERE IS MAX M.I.T., TAPPING FOR MOMENT
IN TIME.
MOST WE'VE SEEN AT A HOTEL LIKE THIS IN A SUBURBAN
ENVIRONMENT IS 52 VEHICLES AT THE SAME TIME.

SO IN SUMMARY, IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO HERE, STRESS
TESTING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IF YOU HAVE THE WORST OR
THE HIGHEST DRIVE-IN RATE FOR HOTEL GUESTS, RESTAURANT
GUESTS AND RESIDENTIAL, YOU'LL STILL HAVE 62 SPACES LEFT.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS, BECAUSE IF NOT, I DON'T
KNOW WHAT ELSE WILL MAKE SENSE ON THE PARKING SIDE.
10:09:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
APPRECIATE IT.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
NOT ONE OF THE POINTER SISTERS.
10:09:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
MS. POYNOR HAS FOUR NAMES.
LIZ KELLY, PLEASE.
LIZ KELLY, CAN YOU ACKNOWLEDGE YOU ARE HERE?
LIZ KELLY, NO.
10:09:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE WAS RIGHT THERE.
SHE'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.
10:09:44PM >> WE NEED THE HDMI FOR THE LAPTOP.
10:09:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MIKE MILLER.
10:09:49PM >> HERE.
10:09:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CHRISTINE PROCTOR.
THANK YOU.
MEG FERNANDEZ.
YES.
THREE MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.

10:09:59PM >> GOOD EVENING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
MAN O MAN, IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE I'VE SEEN
THIS EVENING.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
FLU CHANGES ARE NOT GUARANTEED FOR ANYTHING BUT THE MAXIMUM
AMOUNT ALLOWED.
YOU GUYS LOOKED AT SOMETHING TODAY THAT WAS, GUESS WHAT, IT
WAS A FLU CHANGE BACK IN 2005 AND THEN IT BECAME A PD, I
WASN'T HERE, BUT CARROLL ANN SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING
AT 5215 WEST TYSON.
THAT WAS APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
AND THEY CAME TO US.
SO THEY HAVE CHANGED IT UP.
YOU'RE STILL STUCK WITH THE FLU, THOUGH.
NO MATTER WHAT.
WE GOT TO SHOW YOU, AGAIN, JUST SO EVERYBODY REMEMBERS, WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A FLU CHANGE AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, WE'RE
GOING TO DO THIS.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THEN THEY DO
SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT OR THEY DO NOTHING AT ALL.
10:11:07PM >> HOW DO WE GET THE VOLUME UP?
10:11:18PM >> IS IT PLUGGED IN?
10:11:21PM >> IT'S PLUGGED IN.
CAN'T HEAR IT.

10:11:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE PAPER BACKUP?
10:11:31PM >> PLEASE PAUSE THE TIME.
THIS IS A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY HERE.
10:11:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M THE CHAIR, NO.
DO YOU HAVE PAPER BACKUPS?
10:11:43PM >> NO, IT'S A VIDEO.
PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD.
10:11:58PM >> IT'S MUTED RIGHT THERE.
10:12:09PM >> ALAN IS NOT PAUSING YOUR TIME.
10:12:12PM >> MICHAEL HAS TOLD ME AND TYLER --
10:12:31PM >> THE CMU 35 SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF US.
MICHAEL HAS TOLD ME, AND TYLER HAS TOLD ME THAT THIS IS NOT
GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL, NOBODY IS GOING TO PUT APARTMENTS
IN, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE --
10:12:46PM >> THAT'S OKAY.
TURN THE DAMN THING OFF.
I DON'T NEED IT.
BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU CAN TELL US THE STORY ALL DAY LONG ABOUT
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS NOT
GUARANTEED.
THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.
I SHOWED YOU THIS VIDEO TWO WEEKS AGO.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT SAME NIGHT, TWO WEEKS AGO, GUESS WHAT,
AMAZINGLY ENOUGH, THE SAME PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN THIS JOINT
AND TESTIFIED AND GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THESE PEOPLE HERE, I PULLED THE LIST FOR YOU THE OTHER DAY.
IT WAS AN ORANGE PAPER, THREE OF THE PEOPLE ARE HERE
TONIGHT.
THREE -- ONE OF THEM GAVE MINUTES EARLIER.
I'M NOT SURE BUT I KNOW ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE SIGNED IN.
I HAVE ALL OF THESE E-MAILS THAT WERE SENT TO SANDY D. IN
ADDITION TO SENDING IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE A LIST OF MS. SEOUL, MS. LEECH, MS. MADISON WHO JUST
STUCK HER HEAD IN AND GAVE SOMEBODY A MINUTE.
MR. F, MS. GAETZ.
MR. FORWARD.
MR. VON THON.
THESE PEOPLE ALL WORK FOR PLAYBOOK COMMUNICATIONS.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS CALLED?
I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT IN THEIR PLAYBOOK NOW EVERY TIME WE HAVE A MEETING.
THESE ARE ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY
OF TAMPA WHO ARE COMING HERE TONIGHT.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE.
YOU TELL ME WHAT THEY ARE DOING HERE.
YOU ASKED THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE GETTING PAID TO BE HERE.
THE LAST GUY WHO CAME HERE WANTS TO GET UP HERE AND DID THE
SAME THING AT THE MIRASOL MEETING.
HE TALKED ABOUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT EITHER SIDE, BUT BY GOD
HE HAD ALL KINDS OF DOCUMENTS.

IS HE A TRANSPORTATION EXPERT AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW IT
BECAUSE HE SURE AS HELL SOUNDS LIKE ONE.
WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE
DECIDE TO SHOW UP INSTANTANEOUSLY, THEY SHOW UP FOR THREE
DIFFERENT HEARINGS WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF ONE ANOTHER.
THREE DIFFERENT HEARINGS.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
THESE ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOODS.
THESE ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE.
THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE DEFENDING THEIR HOMES.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET PAID TO BE HERE OR GOING TO BE PART
OF THE TEAM, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THEIR TIME, NOT ON
OURS.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE MINUTES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ON
YOUR TEAM.
AND ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK.
AND THIS IS BECOMING A REALLY, REALLY UGLY HABIT BECAUSE
THINGS ARE BEING ENTERED INTO THE RECORD THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
BE ACCURATE.
IF PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS SHADILY, CAN YOU TRUST EVERYTHING
THAT THEY SAY WHEN THEY GET UP HERE?
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT UNDER OATH RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE NOT UNDER OATH RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO?
I ALWAYS WILL.
YOU CAN BET YOUR SWEET BEHIND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:15:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY, SIR.
YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER.
LET'S BRING IT HOME.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
EVERYBODY BE QUIET NOW.
WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM THE FULL RESPECT WE GAVE EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:15:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHORT LIST, TWO NAMES.
MARY FRANCES ROEBUCK.
THANK YOU.
STEVE ECHSTEIN.
TWO MINUTES MORE FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
10:16:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STARTING NOW, EVERYBODY BE QUIET.
FIVE MINUTES.
10:16:14PM >> GOOD EVENING.
STEVEN ROEBUCK.
MY WIFE MARY FRANCES AND I ARE LIFELONG RESIDENTS OF TAMPA.
WE HAVE LIVED ON SOUTH DELAWARE IN HYDE PARK FOR THE PAST 30
YEARS.
WE OWN TWO BUSINESSES LOCATED ON SWANN AVENUE IN HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY ABOUT THIS PROJECT THIS EVENING AND
UNDERSTANDABLY EMOTIONS ARE HIGH.

SEVERAL MATTERS DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT ARE NOT EMOTIONAL.
THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY TAMPA GOVERNMENT.
THEY ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
STAFF PROFESSIONALS AND SOME ARE EVEN COMMERCIALLY KNOWN
AMONG THE PUBLIC.
AS YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE AT HAND IS REALLY NOT ABOUT A
BOUTIQUE HOTEL.
IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT ANOTHER COOL PLACE TO GO OR THE MANY
OTHER AMENITIES THAT A STRUCTURE MIGHT PROVIDE.
IT'S ABOUT LAND USE CHANGE.
AND THAT DECISION AS YOU ALSO KNOW COMES WITH SIGNIFICANT
RESPONSIBILITY AS IT MOST LIKELY IS A REVERSIBLE DECISION IF
WE CHANGE THE COMP PLAN.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSED FUTURE LAND
USE DESIGNATION FROM R-35 TO CMU 35, THE CRUX OF THE WHOLE
ISSUE INCONSISTENT WITH THAT COMP PLAN.
OF PARTICULAR NOTE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STATED THAT THE
CHANGE TO CMU 35 WOULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW ADDING OVER 178,500
SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN BOTH THE COASTAL HIGH
HAZARD AREA AND EVACUATION ZONE A.
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THE SITE.
SUCH AN INCREASE CONFLICTS WITH THE TAMPA COMP PLAN.
SECTION CM 1.1, WHICH DIRECTS FUTURE POPULATION
CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS SO AS TO
ACHIEVE A NO NET INCREASE IN OVERALL RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.

PLANNING COMMISSION FURTHER CITED, MOREOVER, STAFF FINDS
PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS OF PURSUING A
MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.
SUPPORTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
YOU HEARD ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF INCREASED TRAFFIC AND THAT
GORRIE ELEMENTARY AND WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOLS, GORRIE SLIGHTLY
TO THE NORTH, WILSON SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST ARE WITHIN CLOSE
PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
CLOSE PROXIMITY DOESN'T MEAN WITHIN MILES.
IT ACTUALLY MEANS WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 1,060 FEET FROM BOTH
SCHOOLS.
ADDITIONALLY, CITY STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST FOR CMU 35
INCONSISTENT WITH TAMPA CODE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 27 A 2 J,
SAYING IT WOULD PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS THAT ARE
NOT -- THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT AND
THOSE PATTERNS IN THAT PART OF HYDE PARK DISTRICT.
THEY FURTHER DETERMINED THE PROPOSED TRANSITION WOULD NOT BE
COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WOULD NOT
PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY AND APPEARANCE OF THE HISTORIC
DISTRICT.
WE HEARD THIS EVENING ABOUT WHAT A GREAT THING IT WOULD BE
TO HAVE SOME MORE HOTEL ROOMS NEAR TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL
AND THE DIRE NEED FOR HOTEL ROOMMATES.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE OVER 3,000 HOTEL ROOMS WITHIN A
FIVE-MINUTE DRIVE OF THE HOSPITAL AND OVER 4,000 IN TOTAL

WITHIN TEN MINUTES.
ALL WITH AN AVERAGE ANNUAL OCCUPANCY RATE OF JUST OVER 70%.
WITH THE ADDITION AT TAMPA GENERAL, THERE WILL BE 1184 BEDS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, CITY
PLANNING DEPARTMENT, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION ALL SAY
NO.
MORE THAN 1,556 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THE CHANGE.ORG PETITION
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT WITH 61% OF THEM ADJACENT TO
OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE SAY NO.
10:21:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
OKAY.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK.
IT IS 10:21.
LET'S CALL IT 10:40.
BE BACK AT 10:40.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[RECESS]
10:41:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT GOOD MORNING YET?
NOT YET.
NOT YET.
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:41:15PM >> MIRANDA?
10:41:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
10:41:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
10:41:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
10:41:18PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
10:41:20PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
10:41:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
10:41:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
10:41:23PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:41:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SHELBY.
10:41:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, MY
RECOMMENDATION IS, IF CITY COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
TIME TO PLEASE GET YOUR QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED BY
WHOEVER THE APPROPRIATE PARTY IS AND DO THAT BEFORE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HAVE REBUTTAL AND THEN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
10:41:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULDN'T DO REBUTTAL FIRST?
10:41:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
10:41:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS.
I SEE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. MIRANDA HAD HIS LIGHT ON FIRST.

10:42:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M SORRY.
I FORGET TO TURN THE MIKE OFF.
10:42:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:42:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
10:42:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DON'T GO FAR.
I HAVE A QUESTION AFTER HER.
10:42:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE
SPEAKING TO LIVE LOCAL.
CAN YOU TELL US WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT LIVE LOCAL?
BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS DURING THE COMP PLAN.
CAN YOU CLARIFY?
10:42:35PM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK TALKING ABOUT LIVE LOCAL IS AN
APPLICABLE DISCUSSION POINT, WHETHER LOOKING AT A COMP PLAN
AMENDMENT OR REZONING.
BECAUSE THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL ISN'T WHAT ELSE COULD BE
BUILT HERE.
THE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU.
AND WITH AN AMENDMENT, WITH A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS IS IN EXHIBIT F TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF REPORT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE STANDARD OF
REVIEW AND WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER, WHAT CITY
COUNCIL IS SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
IF I CAN READ A LITTLE BIT.
IT SAYS AMENDMENT OF ANY ASPECT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

REPRESENTS A MAJOR POLICY DECISION BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN PARTICULAR IS A
DECLARATION THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN INITIALLY
SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION THROUGH
THOUGHTFUL ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO LONGER
APPROPRIATE.
AND THEN IT CONTINUES THERE.
BUT THIS IS A POLICY DECISION FOR COUNCIL.
I KNOW WHEN SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, WHO USUALLY SITS WITH YOU
ON THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT HEARINGS, SHE'LL ALWAYS REMIND
COUNCIL THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAXIMUM
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AGAINST WHAT
CAN CURRENTLY BE DONE.
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE 2 OF THE STAFF REPORT, AND
IT FOCUSES ON THE FACT THAT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE
LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE CURRENT DESIGNATION,
THERE IS A 0.6 F.A.R. WHICH ALLOWS UP TO 53,578 SQUARE FEET
OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE KNOW ABOUT THE ABILITY TO HAVE 71
DWELLING UNITS UNDER THE RES 35.
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, WHICH IS THE FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION BEING REQUESTED, THE MAXIMUM F.A.R. IS 2.0,
WHICH WOULD ALLOW 178,596 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL OR
RESIDENTIAL USES.
THAT IS THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL, THE APPROPRIATENESS OF

THE PROPOSED CHANGE AT THIS LOCATION GIVEN THE ANTICIPATED
GROWTH THAT WAS PLANNED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHENEVER IN A HEARING I HEAR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR
APPLICANTS TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE HERE IF YOU
DON'T APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, WHILE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE
EFFECTIVE IN PERSUADING COUNCIL THAT IT'S NOT REALLY
APPROPRIATELY BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION, SO IT'S NOT
ABOUT CAN LIVE LOCAL BE BUILT HERE.
WHILE THE CURRENT ZONING RESIDENTIAL OFFICE ONE ALLOWS
CONSIDERATION, THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO
A LIVE LOCAL APPLICATION THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW YOU TAKE
THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THIS REALLY IS A POLICY
DECISION FOR COUNCIL AS TO THE PROPOSED CMU 35 DESIGNATION.
10:45:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
10:45:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MS. WELLS, HOW YOU
CAN SAY THAT WITHOUT CONSIDERING -- THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE
MATTER.
AND WHEN WE HAVE TO WEIGH ISSUES IN A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, I
THINK DENYING THE POSSIBILITY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OVERRIDING
LAW ON THE BOOKS PUSHED DOWN -- I DON'T LIKE IT -- BY
TALLAHASSEE, IT IS AN AX OVER THE NECKS OF THE CITIZENS OF
TAMPA LIVE LOCAL THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NO CONTROL OVER.
YOU CANNOT BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND IGNORE REALITY.
WHILE HYPOTHETICALLY I THINK WHAT YOU SAY IN A CLEAN WORLD
WITHOUT THAT AX OVER OUR NECK, I BELIEVE THAT OPINION WOULD

BE VALID.
IF THIS WAS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, MAYBE I WOULD GO WITH
YOU ON THAT.
BUT THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, IT'S A POLICY DECISION.
THIS COUNCIL AS POLICY PEOPLE CAN'T IGNORE THE REALITY OF A
LAW OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT OVERRIDES THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
SO I THINK THAT THE EVIDENCE OR THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT
COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY BY THAT OVERRIDING
AUTHORITY THAT SUPERSEDES OUR AUTHORITY AND OUR ABILITY TO
CONTROL THAT PARCEL IS SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD
CONSIDER AS A CITY OF TAMPA POLICY MAKING DECISION MAKERS.
10:46:54PM >>CATE WELLS:
THAT JUST WOULD NOT BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
10:46:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHE ALSO JUST SAID, I DON'T WANT TO PUT
WORDS BACK IN YOUR MOUTH, SHE ALSO JUST SAID THAT THE LIVE
LOCAL APPLICATION WOULD DEPEND ON THE FACTS OF THAT
APPLICATION.
AND SO -- DID I SAY THAT KIND OF RIGHT?
FOR US, EXTRAPOLATE IT FOR A SECOND, IF I COULD.
IF WE WERE REALLY TO CONSIDER THAT, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO
CONSIDER WHAT THE FULL ALTERNATIVE WAS.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE STATE LAW IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING
AND CHANGING AND WE DON'T KNOW AT WHAT TIME SOMETHING LIKE
THAT MIGHT CHANGE.
BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, WOULDN'T IT BE TRUE WE COULDN'T JUST

CONSIDER IT AS A VERY BASIC HYPOTHETICAL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTS OF WHATEVER THEY WOULD
PUT IN.
10:47:44PM >>CATE WELLS:
AGAIN, THE APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU IS
WITH RESPECT TO A SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR A CMU 35 DESIGNATION
AND THE APPROPRIATENESS AT THIS LOCATION.
THAT IS WHAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.
IS IT APPROPRIATE AT THE LOCATION, GIVEN THE MAXIMUM
DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL THAT THE CMU 35 DESIGNATION WOULD
ALLOW AS WELL AS THE USES IT WOULD ALLOW AT THIS LOCATION,
NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT THE REZONING APPLICATION IS PROPOSING,
IT'S ABOUT THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL WITH THE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE LOCATED HERE
THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THE RES 35 DESIGNATION.
10:48:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED
REGARDING STORMWATER FLOODING?
10:48:31PM >>CATE WELLS:
FRANKLY, I THINK A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY THIS
EVENING WENT BEYOND WHAT COUNCIL CONSIDERS FOR A COMP PLAN
AMENDMENT AND WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PROPOSED REZONING.
NO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, MS. WELLS OR
FOR -- BUT WE HAD A LOT OF TESTIMONY TONIGHT ABOUT THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PROJECT AND IF YOU APPROVE THIS
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CHANGE, YOU COULD DO THE WORST-CASE
SCENARIO.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL IS IT

FALLS WITHIN THE ARC RULES AND REGULATIONS.
IF THAT WORST-CASE SCENARIO CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT ARC
APPROVAL, IS THAT NOT CORRECT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING I NEED
TO TALK TO RON ABOUT?
10:49:16PM >>CATE WELLS:
IF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED AND
REZONING IS APPROVED, IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE ARC FOR
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
BUT THERE WAS ALSO A CASE THAT WAS DECIDED I THINK 2005
WHERE IF THE ZONING IS IN PLACE, YOU CAN'T USE THE DESIGN
GUIDELINES TO FURTHER REDUCE WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE
ZONING.
WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT VERY CAREFULLY.
I DON'T WANT ANYONE THIS EVENING TO THINK THAT THE ARC COULD
HAVE UNFETTERED DISCRETION IN REDUCING THE MASSING OF WHAT
THIS COUNCIL COULD POSSIBLY APPROVE.
10:49:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BIFURCATE THAT QUESTION.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE, NOT THE ZONING.
WE TALK ABOUT THE LAND USE, THERE IS A LOT OF TALK THAT THE
SKY WILL FALL ABOUT THE LAND USE.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE PARCEL, BECAUSE IT FALLS
WITHIN THE ARC REGULATED AREA, THE ARC NOT ONLY DOES MOST
THINGS HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL ANYWAY, IF THEY WANT
TO CHANGE A PD, BUT THE ARC HAS OVERRIDING AUTHORITY ABOUT
-- THEY HAVE THE LAST LAUGH OR THE LAST BITE OF THAT APPLE
ON THAT APPROVAL.

NOBODY COULD GO IN THERE AND BUILD, LIKE THEY TALK ABOUT --
THEY COULDN'T BUILD A 30-STORY BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE
F.A.R. BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ARC RULES.
AND ARC WOULD NOT ALLOW A 30 STORY BUILDING THERE WELLS WELL
I THINK WE ARE NOW GETTING BEYOND THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
DISCUSSION WHICH IS WHAT YOU ASKED ME NOT TO DO.
10:50:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, EXCEPT -- IT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO
THE COMP PLAN BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN INCREASED THE F.A.R.
AND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD IN THE
PUBLIC COMMENT WAS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE F.A.R.,
POTENTIALLY YOU COULD BUILD THIS MUCH LARGER MASS AND SCALE
BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN THE F.A.R.
BUT BECAUSE A.R.C. HAS OVERRIDING AUTHORITY OVER LIKE HEIGHT
RESTRICTIONS AND ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS WITHIN THE
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION DISTRICT, THAT WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO OCCUR.
10:51:18PM >>CATE WELLS:
AGAIN, I THOUGHT I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION WHEN
I TALKED ABOUT THE CITIVEST CASE.
I'M NOT PREPARED THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE ARC
COULD SOMEHOW --
10:51:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I CALL RON UP AND TALK TO HIM?
10:51:32PM >>CATE WELLS:
NO.
THIS IS A LEGAL ISSUE.
10:51:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
YOU ARE DISMISSED.

I'LL CALL RON UP, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
RON, ARC REGULATIONS ON THIS PARCEL.
WHAT COULD AN APPLICANT, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THIS
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE TONIGHT TO THE MIXED USE 35, WHAT
COULD AN APPLICANT DO ON THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL?
10:51:58PM >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH A PD.
THAT IS THE THIRD LEG OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE HEARD
TONIGHT.
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED.
AND THE ARC HAS PASSED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THAT.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE THOROUGHLY, IF A PROJECT
WERE TO COME FORWARD, THE ARC HAS JURISDICTION BECAUSE IT
FALLS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT OF THE ARC.
WE LOOK AT SCALE.
WE LOOK AT MASSING, RHYTHM, ALIGNMENT, SETBACKS,
ORIENTATION, ALL OF THAT.
SO IF A PROJECT WERE TO COME FORWARD FOR CERTIFICATE OF
APPROPRIATENESS, IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA.
10:52:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHOUT ARC APPROVAL, WHAT IS THE CURRENT
HEIGHT LIMITATION FOR THIS PARCEL WITHIN THIS DISTRICT?
10:52:44PM >> RO-1.
35.
10:52:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARC WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE ANYTHING ABOVE
35.

10:52:54PM >> I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD APPROVE ANYTHING OVER 35.
10:52:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
MR. SHELBY.
10:53:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT I WAS HERE DURING THE CITIVEST CASE.
IT IS IN THE RECESSES OF MY MEMORY AND I THANK MS. WELLS FOR
BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, BUT WHAT IT DOES SAY IS
THAT, AND NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CASE, JUST A REMINDER, THAT
WHEN THINGS ARE LITIGATED, THINGS THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW
AND WERE ASSURED, DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE CASE.
SO I BELIEVE THE SUGGESTION AND ADVICE TO LOOK SOLELY AT
WHAT IS BEFORE YOU AND NOT SPECULATE AS TO WHAT COULD OR
COULD NOT BE DONE BY THE ARC IS PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE YOU
CAN TAKE AT THIS POINT.
10:53:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
MR. CARLSON.
10:53:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS LIVING IN HYDE PARK WHEN THAT CASE
HAPPENED, AND I WON'T MENTION THE FACTS OF IT.
I WOULDN'T RELY -- I WOULD RELY ON WHAT MS. WELLS SAID AND
FOCUS ON THAT.
10:54:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF ANY STAFF?

MOVE TO REBUTTAL.
APPLICANT REBUTTAL.
10:54:20PM >> BEFORE REBUTTAL, I JUST HAVE ONE POINT OF ORDER.
IN ALL DUE RESPECT I THINK I NEED TO SAY AND IT'S IMPORTANT
TO MY CLIENT.
SO I NEED TO SAY IT.
YOU WERE TOLD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL WITHOUT AT LEAST ASKING THE QUESTION, IS LIVE
LOCAL APPLICABLE IN THIS RO-1 CATEGORY, THE ANSWER TO THAT
IS YES.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SEPARATE THOSE TWO BECAUSE IT
TRANSCENDS ZONING AND IT TRANSCENDS OUR COMP PLAN.
DO WITH THAT WHAT YOU WILL, BUT I THINK THAT IS A REAL
CONSIDERATION THAT SHOULD BE CONTEMPLATED BECAUSE THAT TAKES
YOU OUT OF THIS PROCESS ALTOGETHER.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO GET A
CMU 35 DESIGNATION FOR A HOTEL DEVELOPMENT.
SO NOT GO THAT ROUTE.
BUT I THINK THAT ROUTE IS APPLICABLE.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
10:55:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIRMAN?
10:55:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, MR. SHELBY.
10:55:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A QUESTION, IF I CAN.

IF THIS IN AND OF ITSELF IS APPROVED TO CMU 35, DOES LIVE
LOCAL STILL APPLY?
10:55:35PM >> CORRECT.
APPLIES EITHER WAY.
10:55:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT APPLIES EITHER WAY.
UNDERSTOOD.
10:55:41PM >> LET ME SAY THIS, IT MOSTLY APPLIES WITH THE CURRENT
ZONING OF RO 1.
I HAVE THE MEMO HERE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA SAYING RO 1 IS A
QUALIFYING CATEGORY FOR LIVE LOCAL.
THAT IS NOT ALL THE CATEGORIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT'S VERY LIMITED.
JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, RO 1 QUALIFIES.
THAT IS OUR UNDERLYING ZONING.
10:56:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEFORE YOU GO TO REBUTTAL, I DO HAVE
ANOTHER QUESTION THEN OF STAFF ON LIVE LOCAL, AND BECAUSE OF
THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THIS PARCEL AND DOWNTOWN, IF LIVE
LOCAL WAS APPLIED, WHAT THE HIGHEST -- WHO IS OUR LAND USE
PERSON TO SPEAK TO LIVE LOCAL?
LaCHONE, ARE YOU A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS?
10:56:29PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COULD YOU ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN.
10:56:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN, WHAT
IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY, IF THIS DOES QUALIFY AS LIVE LOCAL,
WHAT IS THE HIGHEST -- WHAT IS THE BIGGEST OR WHATEVER THEY

CAN DEVELOP, HIGHEST DENSITY THEY CAN DEVELOP ON THIS
PARCEL?
10:56:45PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THEY WOULD BE USING RMU 100 FUTURE
LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT ALLOWS UP TO A HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BY
RIGHT.
10:56:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PER ACRE.
HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS PARCEL?
10:57:00PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
JUST OVER TWO ACRES.
10:57:01PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
RMU 100 WOULD ALLOW UP TO HUNDRED DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR
UP TO 3.25 F.A.R.
THIS SITE IS APPROXIMATELY I THINK 2.05 ACRES.
10:57:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW HIGH WOULD THAT BE?
10:57:17PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
THE HEIGHT IS DETERMINED BY THE ZONING.
IT'S NOT DETERMINED BY FUTURE LAND USE.
10:57:37PM >> THIS IS A MEMO FROM --
10:57:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS HIGH AS ANYTHING DOWNTOWN.
IT ALSO MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE TO RETAIN THE HISTORICAL
STRUCTURE.
ARC STANDARDS ARE NOT LONGER APPLIED IN LIVE LOCAL?
10:58:00PM >> RON VILA, STAFF WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT QUESTION, BUT IT IS A CONTRIBUTING
STRUCTURE, WHICH ALL CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES HAVE TO COME

FORWARD FOR DEMOLITION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
DO ADMINISTRATIVELY.
IT WOULD BE AN A.R.C. BOARD DECISION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SUPERSEDES.
10:58:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PROBABLY AN EXPERT ON LIVE LOCAL BECAUSE I
THINK THERE IS A THING THERE.
WHO IS AN EXPERT ON LIVE LOCAL?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I'LL ENTERTAIN THE APPLICANT AS AN EXPERT ON LIVE LOCAL.
10:58:40PM >> AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THIS AS A THREAT.
I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
BECAUSE IF THIS PROJECT DOES GO DOWN AND IT'S BEEN A VERY
TOUGH NIGHT, THIS IS A REAL OPTION.
SO WE'VE STUDIED IT, AGAIN, MY CLIENT WANTS TO DO A HOTEL,
WANTS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR CHARGE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR TWO YEARS.
BUT WE DID FEEL THE OBLIGATION, WHETHER HIM OR SOMEBODY
ELSE, COULD DO THIS.
AND WE'VE STUDIED IT.
IN THE TOP LEFT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IN THE BOTTOM LEFT, THE RED SHADE IS THE STRUCTURE THAT
WE'RE PROPOSING.
THAT'S A LIVE LOCAL DEAL AT 200 FEET.
NOWHERE NEAR THE 42 STORIES WE HAD DOWNTOWN.

SO THAT'S CONSERVATIVE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, AGAIN, AND
THIS IS WHERE I THINK IT IS THE MOST APPLICABLE.
YOU WERE TOLD TO LOOK AT MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL, 177,000 SQUARE FEET IF WE
SHOULD BE LUCKY TO GET THE CMU 35.
IF IT'S LIVE LOCAL BASED ON THE ACREAGE, WE ALSO APPLIED
SETBACKS, 464,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S THREE TIMES -- ALMOST THREE TIMES THE SIZE.
WE'RE PROPOSING 98 FEET.
THAT WOULD BE IN THE PD, SO WE WOULD BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO
PROCEED WITH THAT.
AGAIN, ONE MILE OF ANYTHING APPROVED DOWNTOWN WE USE 200 FOR
THIS ANALYSIS, YOU HAVE BUILDINGS MUCH TALLER THAN THAT.
WE ARE AT A TOTAL OF 151 UNITS, USING RMU 100, USING THE
F.A.R.
YOU WOULD BE AT A MINIMUM 397 UNITS.
IF WE WANT TO TALK TRAFFIC, TALK ALL THOSE ISSUES, I THINK
THAT THIS IS APPLICABLE.
AGAIN, RO 1, AND IT WAS IN THE MEMO THAT WAS JUST PUT UP,
YOU SAW IT RIGHT THERE, IS A QUALIFYING CATEGORY.
I THINK THAT IS -- THAT IS THE GATEWAY IN TO LIVE LOCAL.
11:00:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT QUESTION
FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE?
11:00:46PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

USING THE SAME MEMO, I CAN PROVIDE THE EXAMPLES THAT ARE
LISTED ON THIS MEMO.
REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AT LEAST 40% OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS
ARE RENTAL UNITS FOR A TERM OF AT LEAST 30 YEARS THAT ARE
AFFORDABLE.
OR IF DEVELOPED AS A MIXED USE PROJECT, AT LEAST 65% OF THE
SQUARE FOOTAGE IS USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
OF WHICH 40% ARE AFFORDABLE AS DEFINED AND IT GIVES THE
SECTION.
AND PROVIDE AT LEAST 10% AS NONRESIDENTIAL.
AND IT ALSO MENTIONED AND ARE LOCATED WITHIN COMMERCIAL,
INDUSTRIAL, OR MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS OR WITHIN ANY
PORTION OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL
MIXED USE.
11:01:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MEMO?
DOES IT CONTINUE?
11:01:44PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
AND THEN IT KIND OF GOES IN.
THERE ARE OTHER CATEGORIES.
I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THIS TO COUNCIL TO REVIEW.
11:02:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, IF YOU WOULD, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:02:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WONDER IF I COULD ASK LEGAL, BEFORE YOU
GET UP, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.

IS IT APPROPRIATE OR ALLOWED FOR APPLICANTS TO ISSUE
ESSENTIALLY A THREAT, AND ARE WE ABLE TO USE THE EVIDENCE
THAT'S PRESENTED IN WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A THREAT?
11:02:38PM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
MY ADVICE PREVIOUSLY WAS TO TRY TO REFOCUS THE DISCUSSION ON
WHAT COUNCIL ALWAYS CONSIDERS WHEN A -- WHEN AN APPLICATION
TO AMEND A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS BEFORE YOU.
11:02:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED OUTSIDE THAT, WE
SHOULD NOT CONSIDER IT, IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
11:03:02PM >>CATE WELLS:
IT REALLY GETS BACK TO THE POLICY DECISION ON
THE APPROPRIATENESS OF INCREASING -- OF CHANGING THE COMP
PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS LOCATION THAT WOULD ALLOW AN
F.A.R. TO GO FROM .6 TO 2.0.
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO ALLEGED THREATS.
CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
I'VE GIVEN YOU MY BEST ADVICE.
11:03:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
11:03:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO
REBUTTAL?
OKAY.
NOW WE'LL REALLY GO TO REBUTTAL.
11:03:43PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
WE'VE HAD A LONG AND SPIRITED DEBATE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT FOR AND
AGAINST, FOR GIVING THEIR THOUGHTS AND FOR GIVING THEIR

OPINIONS.
NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYONE, BUT A LOT OF THE OBJECTIONS I
HEARD WERE BASED ON FEAR -- TRAFFIC, FLOODING, PARKING,
AGAIN, THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED IN THIS
APPLICATION.
MUCH WAS ALSO MADE OF A PETITION WITH A BUNCH OF SIGNATURES,
INCLUDING BY THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUT THAT UP.
IT USES TRIGGER WORDS SUCH AS EXTREME, RADICAL, CHAOTIC.
IT'S INFLAMMATORY, MISLEADING, AND MEANT TO STOKE FEAR.
FEAR IN THIS FORM IS A POWERFUL WEAPON AND AS DETERMINED AS
I AM, I DON'T HAVE A DEFENSE FOR IT.
BUT FEAR COMES WITH RISK, TOO.
FEAR CAN CLOUD YOUR JUDGMENT.
I CAN'T TALK TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED THIS
PETITION, BUT I TALKED TO MANY.
WHEN I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE PROJECT
FACTUALLY, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY UNDERSTAND IT AND ARE
SUPPORTIVE.
YOU'VE HEARD TESTIMONY ON THIS TONIGHT FROM SPECIFIC PEOPLE.
FEAR CAN PREVENT YOU FROM REALIZING THAT THERE ARE
ALTERNATIVES THAT COULD BE EVEN MORE HARMFUL.
DENYING THIS PROJECT IS AN APPROVAL OF AN ALTERNATIVE.
I'M NOT MAKING IT A THREAT, BUT ONE OF THOSE ALTERNATIVES IS
A LIVE LOCAL ACT PROJECT.

LASTLY, FEAR FOCUSES ON YOURSELF AND PREVENTS YOU FROM
THINKING OF OTHERS.
DENYING THIS HOTEL DEVELOPMENT TAKES AWAY 200 POTENTIAL
JOBS.
DENYING THIS REQUEST MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR FAMILIES TO
STAY CLOSE TO LOVED ONES THAT ARE GETTING AN ORGAN
TRANSPLANT OR IN CRITICAL CONDITION DUE TO A TRAGIC
ACCIDENT.
MY HOPE IS THAT FACTS OVERCOME FEAR, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT
THE FACTS ARE ON THE SIDE OF THIS PROJECT.
WE ASK THAT YOU ACCEPT THE ARC RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE
THIS REQUEST.
WITH THAT, ADDIE IS GOING TO CLOSE.
11:05:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAUSE THE TIME FOR ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WE'RE HEARING LOTS OF DISCUSSION OUT IN THE AUDIENCE.
PLEASE, I TOLD EARLIER IN THE ROOM, THIS ROOM ACOUSTICS ARE
GREAT AND IF YOU ARE WHISPERING BACK THERE, IT BOUNCES RIGHT
OVER HERE AND WE CAN'T HEAR THE SPEAKER.
IF YOU COULD REMAIN QUIET.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK, GO OUT INTO THE ELEVATOR LOBBY, YOU ARE
WELCOME TO TALK.
11:06:08PM >> ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
A LOT HAS BEEN SAID OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF THE COMP PLAN
AMENDMENT, PARTICULARLY ON TRAFFIC, STORMWATER, BRICK

STREETS, LOADING.
AS WE KNOW, THESE ITEMS ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THE COMP PLAN
REQUEST AT THIS TIME BUT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE
OF THOSE TERMS.
IF WE ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP,
YOU'LL SEE HOW WE FULLY ADDRESS THOSE.
BACK TO THE COMP PLAN, THOUGH, DID WANT TO ADDRESS COASTAL
MANAGEMENT POLICIES THAT RECOGNIZE THAT INFILL REDEVELOPMENT
SHOWN IN PINK WILL HAPPEN, GIVEN THAT 50% OF THE CITY IS
LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA.
THIS REQUEST IS NOT INCREASED DENSITY.
THIS DOES ALLOW A .4 INCREASE IN BY RIGHT F.A.R.
THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR BETTER MIX OF USES AND OPPORTUNITY FOR
LAND USE LESSENS THE CHANCE OF THIS BEING FULLY RESIDENTIAL.
BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY REALLY DELIBERATED THIS.
THIS WASN'T A UNANIMOUS DECISION FOR THEM.
PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO LOOK AT THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO,
WHICH IS A 1.0 BY RIGHT F.A.R., NOT A 2.0, SINCE THAT DOES
HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL WITH A BONUS PROVISION.
SOME MEMBERS AGREED THAT LOOKING AT THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO
IS NOT THE BEST CASE PRACTICE AND COULD STOP GREAT PROJECTS
FROM COMING TO TAMPA.
AND THEN LOOKING AT TRAFFIC AGAIN, THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO,
OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER ANALYZED THE CAPACITY OF NEARBY ROADS
LIKE BAYSHORE AND DISTRIBUTED THESE WORST-CASE TRIPS.

ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT THE TRIPS WOULD BE LESS THAN ONE
PERCENT OF THE CAPACITY OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS NOT
SIGNIFICANT PER THE CITY STANDARDS.
THEN NOTABLY, WE WANTED TO GO BACK AND SHOW THAT WE HAVE THE
SUPPORT OF THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS ACROSS SWANN TO
THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH AS WELL AS ALL PROPERTY OWNERS
IMMEDIATELY ACROSS BAY STREET TO OUR NORTH.
WE ARE ALSO SO, SO HONORED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF BOTH TAMPA
GENERAL HOSPITAL AND VISIT TAMPA BAY AND HAVE THEIR LETTERS
OF SUPPORT TO TURN INTO THE RECORD NOW.
THE SITE IS RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT WITH A ONE STORY BUILDING
ON THE SITE ACROSS FROM A NINE-STORY TOWER.
GIVEN THAT CMU 35 IS IMMEDIATELY TO OUR EAST AND TO OUR
NORTH, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST IS COMPATIBLE AND DOES
NOT CREATE A LAND USE ON AN ISLAND.
WE THINK THAT THIS REQUEST FOR A MIXED USE CATEGORY IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE FABRIC OF WHAT'S AROUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT, AS WELL AS THE
COMMERCIAL NATURE OF SPANISH TOWN CREEK WITH ALL OF THESE
PINK PARCELS ON THE RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
11:08:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL?
11:08:46PM >> YES, IT DOES.
THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME.

11:08:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
11:08:50PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:08:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
DISCUSSION?
WHO WANTS TO LEAD OFF?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:09:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I THINK THE WORD FEAR IS REALLY
FASCINATING.
I THINK THERE IS FEAR OF WHAT'S TO COME AND THE IDEA OF
PUTTING FEAR INTO COUNCIL OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY COME.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE TASKED WITH DECIDING IS THAT SORT OF
INTENSITY AND DENSITY APPROPRIATE IN THE LOCATION.
SO I MOVE TO DENY TA/CPA 24-11 BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, BASICALLY
FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION,
OUR STAFF, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, NOTHING I
HEARD SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS INTENSITY IS APPROPRIATE
HERE.
HONESTLY, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL
ABILITY IN A LOWER DENSITY IN A LOWER COMP PLAN CATEGORY.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THIS, BUT I ALSO DON'T

THINK A BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS 122 ROOMMATES.
TO ME, BOUTIQUE IS A SMALL SPACE.
I STAYED IN MULTIPLE BOUTIQUE HOTELS, AND THEY ARE NEVER
GIANT.
I THINK THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR COMP PLAN AND AT OUR
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE REALLY DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE
THIS COULD BE.
IF THIS WAS TWO BLOCKS NORTH ON A CORRIDOR, IT WOULD BE A
DIFFERENT STORY FOR ME.
BUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA IS JUST SOMETHING WE CAN'T
IGNORE.
11:11:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:11:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SPECIFICALLY TO ADD TO WHAT SHE SAID, I
WOULD ASK THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF CITY STAFF BE ADDED AS
WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, AND THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMUNITY
INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING ANALYSIS.
11:11:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:11:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO ADD ALL THOSE.
AND THEN JUST AS A COMMENT -- I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A MULTIYEAR PLAN THAT'S PUT TOGETHER.
IT INCLUDES HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS IN THE PUBLIC, THREE YEARS
OR THREE AND A HALF YEARS INTO UPDATING IT RIGHT NOW THAT IS

A CONSENSUS OF DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS, INDUSTRY, AND SCHOOLS,
HOSPITALS, ALL KINDS OF GROUPS.
WE UPDATE THOSE THINGS REGULARLY.
IT'S A CHANCE FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN.
IT'S A CHANCE FOR EVERYBODY TO WEIGH IN.
SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES AND WANTS TO CHANGE THAT, WE HAVE TO
HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE AS SOMEONE
SAID, AND AS THE BUSINESS JOURNAL ALWAYS SAYS, INVESTORS
WANT PREDICTABILITY.
THEY WANT PREDICTABILITY OF WHAT A LAND USE IS GOING TO BE.
YOU HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, SCHOOLS, OTHER
THINGS NEAR THIS, AND THEY WANT THE EXPECTATION THAT THE
CITY IS GOING TO HOLD WITH ITS PROMISES OF WHAT'S IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BECAUSE AN APPLICANT HAS BEEN UNABLE TO COME UP WITH
SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE PUBLIC, DOESN'T MEAN
THAT WE SHOULD SOMEHOW BE GUILTED OR SCARED INTO APPROVING
SOMETHING.
WE HAVE A DUTY TO THE PUBLIC TO RELY ON THE EXTENSIVE PUBLIC
INPUT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTIES THAT RESULTED IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REASON THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE IT RIGHT
NOW.
11:13:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST BRIEFLY.
I'M TIRED.

BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO COMMENT ON, WHICH IS,
NUMBER ONE, WITH REGARDS TO THE LIVE LOCAL ISSUE, I DO NOT
SEE THAT AS A THREAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT A STATEMENT OF LEGALLY VESTED RIGHTS THAT
SOMEBODY HAS AND SIMPLY STATING THEM AS A STATEMENT OF FACT
IS A THREAT.
THE LAW WAS PASSED.
I THINK WE ALL DISAGREE WITH IT, BUT IT'S JUST A STATEMENT
OF LEGALLY VESTED RIGHTS.
I KNOW MS. WELLS HAS OBVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT US -- ABOUT THE
RELEVANCY IN THE DECISION, WHATEVER THAT MATTERS FOR ME.
I TAKE A LOOK AT THE DENSITY REQUESTED IN THIS MOVE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE NEED FOR A
HOTEL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE HERE, I DO THINK THAT THE
DENSITY IS SOMETHING THAT IS MORE MANAGEABLE IN THIS AREA
FOR SUCH AN ENDEAVOR.
AGAIN, WITH REGARD TO THE LIVE LOCAL ISSUE, I DON'T SEE THAT
AS A THREAT WHATSOEVER.
IT'S A STATEMENT OF FACT.
THAT'S IT.
11:14:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE LAST
THINGS I WROTE, THIS INTENSITY ISN'T APPROPRIATE HERE.
FUNNY THING IS, I LOOK AT THIS EVERY DAY, RIGHT?
INTENSITY, I LOOK AT THE BANK OF TAMPA.
I LOOK AT 345, I LOOK AT ALLEGRO, I MEAN, THE WHOLE AREA,

THIS IS MY BACKYARD, IS VERY MIXED USE OF VARIOUS
INTENSITIES.
LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO A BUILDING THAT'S TWO STORIES HIGHER
THAN THIS BUILDING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS CALLED,
ANOTHER TOWER FURTHER DOWN THAT'S QUITE HIGH, AND ALL THE
BUSINESSES.
THE ONLY RESIDENTIAL REALLY IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SWANN
AND ON BAY STREET ON THE OTHER SECTION OF THE BAY, BECAUSE
EVERYTHING ON BAY THAT FACES THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY IS ALL
COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SECTION OF BAY.
RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE ONE STRIP OF TOWN HOUSES, AND THEN
YOU'VE GOT THE NEW TOWN HOUSES, $2 MILLION TOWN HOUSES THEY
TALK ABOUT AND APARTMENTS ON THE SIDE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT
MY GOOD FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON THE CORNER.
I'M VERY EMPATHETIC WITH THE TWO CORNER, BREVARD AND SWANN.
I THINK -- THEY WERE THE MOST COMPELLING TESTIMONY TONIGHT
BECAUSE THEY ARE -- OTHER THAN US ON SWANN, PROBABLY THE
MOST ADVERSELY IMPACTED ON THIS.
AGAIN, AS FAR AS INTENSITY, IF NOT HERE, THEN WHERE?
YOU KNOW I'VE STOOD HARD ON DEFENDING SOUTH TAMPA ON LOT
SPLITS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE OF SCHOOLS AND
ALL.
THIS IS ONLY 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

20 VERSUS MAYBE 75 --
11:15:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY I REMIND YOU, WE ARE IN A COMP PLAN.
11:15:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTENSITY.
11:15:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE REZONING.
11:16:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TALKING ABOUT THE INTENSITY OF CHANGING TO
A HOTEL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.
11:16:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE.
11:16:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT THE BENEFIT OF THE
DOUBT, WHAT THEY ARE COMING FORWARD IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING
TO BUILD BECAUSE THEY ARE HOTELIERS AND THEY OPERATE AN
OPERATION DOWN SOUTH THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BRING HERE.
STOP.
I'M TALKING NOW.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY IN A MINUTE.
JOBS.
THE APPLICANT SAID 200 JOBS.
SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT JOBS FOR UT STUDENTS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A PREVIOUS CASE, AT LEAST IT'S
IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY
AND JOBS.
THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCE OF THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S ZERO
FLOOD CONTROL.
THE WATER, LITERALLY RAINSTORM, WATER SHEETS OFF OF THIS
PROPERTY.

ZERO FLOOD CONTROL.
I BELIEVE MARY LOU BAILEY IN HER TESTIMONY TALKED ABOUT IF
THESE PARCELS, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE SITE CONTROL AND THESE
PARCELS WERE INDIVIDUALLY DEVELOPED, IT WOULD BE VERY
DIFFICULT TO MANAGE FLOODWATERS AS INDIVIDUALLY DEVELOPED
PARCELS VERSUS ONE LARGE PROJECT WHERE YOU COULD BUILD THE
VAULTS AND CONTAIN THE WATER ON PROPERTY.
I'LL END WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, REFERENCE THE LIVE LOCAL ISSUE.
SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW VERSUS THE DEVIL
YOU DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD REPHRASE THAT, THE DEVIL YOU KNOW VERSUS THE DEVIL
YOU KNOW.
WE KNOW WHAT THE DEVIL WE KNOW IS.
THE DEVIL WE KNOW IS THE STATE OF FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, THOSE
NO-GOOD BLANKETY BLANKS HAVE FORCED THIS THING CALLED LIVE
LOCAL DOWN OUR THROATS.
THEY HAVE GOT THEIR FOOT ON OUR NECK AND THIS IS SOMETHING
THIS COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, OUR STAFF, NONE OF US CAN CONTROL
THIS.
IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE
PROPERTY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PASSION PROJECT THAT THEY ARE
PUTTING FIRST AND JUST LOOKING TO GET THE LAST PENNY OUT OF
THE PROPERTY, THEY'LL GO FOR LIVE LOCAL AND BUILD THE
HIGHEST AND BEST.

I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THE LAST THING BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY SAID DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.
GOOD PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE THING ON BOTH SIDES.
GOOD PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE.
WE CAN HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SOMEBODY GOOD.
DOESN'T MAKE SOMEBODY BAD.
WE JUST SEE THINGS FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
SOME OF US SEE THINGS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS URBANISM,
WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, BICYCLE NEIGHBORHOODS, HAVING MIXED
USE DEVELOPMENT WHERE PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC CAN ENJOY THINGS.
OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN SUBURBIA.
THAT'S NOT MY THING BUT THEY ARE ALL STILL GOOD PEOPLE.
WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION OF THE WAY WE LOOK AT
PROJECTS.
GOOD PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:18:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT, EVERYBODY IS THE SAME.
WE ALL WANT TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY BUT WE ALSO WANT TO DO
THINGS THE SAME WAY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIFE, LIFE IS A CYCLE OF THE SAME THING
TURNING OVER.
AND AS YOU GROW, WHETHER YOU ARE YOUNGER, SOMETIMES YOU LOOK
AT A BABY SAY, WELL, GOING TO BE A DOCTOR.
ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS A FOOTBALL PLAYER.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIVE LOCAL, I
TALK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND OR I THINK I DO, WHAT'S GOING ON.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIVE LOCAL, SAME THING AS SOMEBODY REAL
HIGH OFFICE COMING HERE AND TELLING ME, TELLING US THE CITY
OF TAMPA THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KNOCK DOWN A BUILDING
BECAUSE IT IS 50 YEARS OLD AND SHOULD BE REMOVED.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL I GOT HOME.
95% OF THE CITY BUILDINGS SHOULD BE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY ARE
ALL OVER 50 YEARS OLD.
BUILDING SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE ELSE IN A COLLEGE.
I KNOW I'M TRYING TO GO AROUND BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET
SUED BY THE GOVERNOR.
BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THESE THINGS, IS
THERE A NEED FOR IT?
I BELIEVE THERE IS.
IS IT THE RIGHT PLACE?
THAT'S THE QUESTION.
SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
WE EITHER PASS IT OR REJECT IT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF IT FAILS?
WHAT'S COMING NEXT?
NO ANSWERS.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT DO YOU KNOW
WHAT'S COMING?
NO ANSWERS.
THAT'S HOW MOST OF US FEEL RIGHT NOW.
THAT HAND WENT UP TOO LATE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT EVERYONE THAT COMES BEFORE US, NO
MATTER HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING RIGHT
AND SOMETHING NOT SO RIGHT WITH THAT PROJECT.
I DON'T CARE IF IT IS A ONE BUILDING HOUSE OR TWO BUILDING
DUPLEX OR LOT SPLIT.
LOT SPLITS IN SOUTH TAMPA DO NOT SELL.
GUESS WHAT, NORTH OF KENNEDY, THEY ALL PASS.
DON'T BELIEVE ME, LOOK AT THE RECORD.
WHAT ABOUT THAT LOT SPLIT?
IT DOESN'T SELL SOUTH OF KENNEDY, BUT IT WILL SELL THE SAME
PEOPLE THAT VOTE AGAINST IT, VOTE FOR THE ONES NORTH OF
KENNEDY.
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?
SO THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK NOT WHAT YOU HAVE
TODAY, BUT WHAT'S COMING TOMORROW, THEREAFTER OR FOREVER,

HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO LAST AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO
THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
11:21:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS?
HEARING NONE.
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU READ YOUR MOTION AGAIN,
PLEASE?
11:21:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY MOTION WAS TO DENY TA/CPA 24-11.
11:21:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:22:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:22:07PM >>THE CLERK:
YOUNG?
11:22:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
11:22:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
11:22:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:22:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
11:22:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:22:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
11:22:23PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, MIRANDA, AND
CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
11:22:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
THAT MAKES THE NEXT TWO ISSUES MOOT.

11:22:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU THERE IS
AN APPEAL PERIOD.
IF YOU ARE PRESENTED BY QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY REGARDING
THIS, JUST BE REMINDED THAT THIS CASE IS NOT -- HAS NOT BEEN
FULLY VETTED.
11:22:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SAY THAT TO THE PUBLIC, TOO.
11:22:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:23:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE NOT ADJOURNED YET.
11:23:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHILE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING, I
HAVE ADVISED THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHO, YES, ARE YOUR
ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, BUT IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE IS
AN APPEAL PERIOD WITH REGARD TO THIS, I ADVISED THEM THAT IT
IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO TALK TO THE PRESS OR THE PUBLIC DURING
THAT PERIOD.
SO PLEASE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS THE CASE.
THANK YOU.
11:23:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE NO LONGER -- THEY ARE
MOOT.
11:23:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD WE HAVE THAT ADDRESSED?
DO YOU WANT TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES?
OKAY.
THEN EVERYBODY HAS TO BE QUIET.

11:23:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXCUSE ME.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
IF YOU WANT TO TALK, WE'RE STILL HAVING A MEETING.
YOU GUYS CAN GO OUT TO THE ELEVATOR LOBBY.
YOU CAN STAY HERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO STAY QUIET.
11:24:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:24:34PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
MY APOLOGIES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE,
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 5, REZ 25-48.
SECTION 27-150D WOULD APPLY TO WITHDRAWAL OF A ZONING
APPLICATION WHEN RELATED TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
APPLICATION.
REZONING APPLICATION CONTINGENT ON A REQUEST TO AMEND THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHALL BE DEEMED WITHDRAWN AND NO FURTHER
EFFECT WHERE THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN IS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL, NO FURTHER PROCEEDING OF
ACTION BY COUNCIL SHALL BE REQUIRED.
11:25:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
11:25:33PM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
ADDRESS THAT WITH ITEM 5.
11:25:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 5 IS HEREBY WITHDRAWN.

WHAT ABOUT THE VACATION?
APPLICANT WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE VACATION?
11:25:43PM >> YES, WE DO.
11:25:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 2 ON THE VACATION.
11:25:52PM >> ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
PRESENTING FILE VAC 25-08.
ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE THE ELMO SCREEN, PLEASE.
REPRESENTATIVE NAME OBVIOUSLY IS GARNER BREWER HUDSON.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 613 SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY
LYING NORTH OF SWANN AVENUE, SOUTH OF BAY STREET, EAST OF
BREVARD AVENUE, AND WEST OF MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
APPLICATION WAS FILED ON FEBRUARY 21, 2025.
ALLEY IS CURRENTLY IMPROVED.
ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 3,072 SQUARE FEET.
AERIAL VIEW OF THE ALLEY IN YELLOW HERE, APPLICANT'S
PROPERTY IN RED.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED.
HERE, THE ALLEY WAY, OF WHAT THE REMAINDER OF THE ALLEY OF
THIS BLOCK, BECAUSE THE REMAINDER OF THE PORTION WAS
PREVIOUSLY VACATED.
HERE IS CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS SHEET SHOWING THE PREVIOUS
VACATING HERE AND THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS HERE.
IMAGE LOOKING EAST FROM SOUTH BREVARD AVENUE OF THE

REMAINDER OF THE ALLEY.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY SPECTRUM AND TECO.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER
27 AS REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN A VACATED AREA.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:27:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
11:28:05PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE FAR LESS CONTROVERSIAL THAN OUR LAST
REQUEST.
SO THE PORTION IN RED ON YOUR SCREEN IS AN ALLEY THAT WAS
VACATED OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
IRONICALLY, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ACTUALLY HAD THE PORTION
IN BLUE SHOWN AS ALREADY HAVING BEEN VACATED, WHICH WE
OPERATED UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION WE PULLED TITLE, TURNED OUT
IT HAD NOT BEEN.
IT'S A REMNANT PIECE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO VACATE, CLEAN
UP TO REMEDY BASICALLY AN EXISTING DEAD-END CONDITION.
EVERY TIME THAT WE'VE GONE FORWARD WITH THIS, I DON'T THINK
WE'VE HAD ANY OBJECTIONS AT ALL FROM STAFF OR FROM
NEIGHBORS.
AND I THINK WE GOT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UNANIMOUS

SUPPORT OF THE ARC WHO IT'S THEIR PURVIEW TO PROTECT THE
GRID IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WITH THAT, I THINK -- I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:29:12PM >> ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
AS TRUETT MENTIONED, THIS IS A REMNANT ALLEY.
IT REALLY FIXES PART OF THE EASTERN ALLEY THAT WAS VACATED
OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
THE CURRENT ALLEY ACTUALLY CREATES THE DEAD END.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY BECOMING MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION
22 OF THE LDC, CURRENT ALLEY CREATES DEAD END, AND WE ARE
ACTUALLY FIXING THAT CONDITION.
AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE STAFF AND ARC'S STAFF FULL
SUPPORT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE.
11:29:55PM >> BOBBIE O'BRIEN.
MY ALLEY IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I KNOW WHY THEY VACATED HALF OF THAT.
THAT ACTUALLY WAS A PUTT-PUTT COURSE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A
HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

I FOUND THAT ON THE SANBORN MAPS.
MY CONCERN WITH CLOSING THAT PART OF THE ALLEY IS WHERE IS
THE GARBAGE GOING TO BE PICKED UP?
THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS THAT I SAW.
PARDON ME?
11:30:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
11:30:24PM >> OKAY.
THE GARBAGE PICKUP BECAUSE SWANN IS SO CROWDED, WHERE ARE
YOU GOING TO PUT YOUR DUMPSTERS?
ON BAY STREET, AGAIN, A FRAGILE 24 WIDE BRICK STREET THAT
CAN'T HANDLE HEAVY TRAFFIC.
IT HAS CAVE-INS OR PUT IT ON MAGNOLIA?
AGAIN, ANOTHER BRICK ROAD.
BREVARD, THAT'S THE SIDE PROPERTIES AND PART OF IT -- THAT'S
WHAT MYSTIFIES ME.
I DON'T MEAN TO BE CONTRARY AT ALL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
IT'S JUST THAT THAT IS A LOGISTICAL QUESTION I'D LIKE TO
KNOW.
MY GARBAGE IS PICKED UP IN THE ALLEY.
THAT'S PART OF THE CHARM, AT LEAST THAT I LIKE ABOUT HYDE
PARK.
IT MIGHT BE A DEAD END, BUT IT'S A DEAD END THEY HAVE BEEN
LIVING WITH FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, CLOSE IT OFF, YOU HAVE MORE
PROPERTY TO SELL IF YOU WANT TO CUT IT UP AND SELL IT OFF.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I CAN BE SYMPATHETIC, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER ON
HOW THE GARBAGE IS PICKED UP, TWICE A WEEK, AND WHERE ARE
THOSE BINS GOING TO GO?
THANK YOU.
11:31:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
11:31:37PM >> I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A LINE.
11:31:38PM >> HI.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
STILL LIVE IN HYDE PARK.
COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE THE ALLEY VACANCY.
IT'S A STUB, TO PUT IT BLUNTLY.
I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR PRESERVING THE FUNCTIONAL ALLEYS OF HYDE
PARK, VERY MUCH AN ADVOCATE FOR THEM.
RECENTLY I HAD A MEETING WITH LARRY WASHINGTON, THE HEAD OF
SOLID WASTE.
HE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE CITY IS MOVING IN
A DIRECTION TO LIMIT THE USE OF SOLID WASTE PICKUP IN ALLEYS
AND HE SPECIFICALLY CITED THE CLOSURE OF NOW THAT IS
IMPENDING IN HYDE PARK BECAUSE IT IS A DEAD END AND IT'S NOT
SAFE FOR THE TRUCKS TO BACK OUT, ET CETERA.
I HOPE IN MOST OF THE ALLEYS WE CAN PRESERVE THE SOLID WASTE
AND IT IS A FIGHT THAT MY BOARD IS FULLY ADVOCATING TO
PREPARE.
BUT WHEN THERE IS A DEAD END ALLEY LIKE THIS IT'S A STUB.

IT'S A STUB.
IT'S A STUB.
SOMEBODY MADE THE DECISION A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS CLEAN IT UP SO SOMEONE CAN MAKE
USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS A DEAD END THAT SOLID WASTE WILL
STOP SERVICE ANYTIME.
11:32:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
11:32:44PM >> JOE HEFNER.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS AT THE END OF THE STREET THERE ON BAY
STREET.
IS THAT PROPERTY ALL OWNED BY THE SAME PERSON THAT OWNS THE
REST OF THE BLOCK?
11:32:58PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:32:59PM >> MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, THAT ALLEY IS USED FOR PARKING
ACCESS FOR THOSE TWO BUILDINGS.
IF THEY ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN, IF THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE
BIG PICTURE, AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THEIR OFFICES,
THEY NEED THAT ALLEY FOR ACCESS FOR THEIR PARKING.
THAT'S ALL.
11:33:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REBUTTAL?
11:33:19PM >> I BELIEVE I CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS REAL QUICK.
WHEN MAYOR -- I'M SORRY.
TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

MARY LOU SAID IT WELL WHERE CITY SOLID WASTE IS CHANGING THE
WAY THAT THEY SERVICE, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GRANT A
TEMPORARY EASEMENT OVER THAT PORTION OF THE ALLEY TO ALLOW
SOLID WASTE TO CONTINUE TO PICK UP SO LONG AS THEY ARE
FUNCTIONING AND IF THE PROJECT ISN'T REDEVELOPED.
SO THAT'S ONE.
TWO, EASEMENTS WILL ALSO BE GRANTED TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS
SO THEY CAN ACCESS THE REAR OF THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THAT
SITE IS REDEVELOPED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
I BELIEVE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED.
11:33:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER PERSONS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING
TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MANISCALCO AND SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU READ THIS ITEM, PLEASE?
11:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED
NORTH OF SWANN AVENUE, SOUTH OF BAY STREET, EAST OF BREVARD
AVENUE AND WEST OF MAGNOLIA AVENUE WITHIN THE REVISED MAP OF

PACKWOODS SUBDIVISION, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:34:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT
STATED?
11:34:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT.
MR. SHELBY.
WHAT IS IT?
11:35:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PROVIDE AN EASEMENT FOR ACCESS TO THOSE
TWO PROPERTIES AND TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT FOR SOLID WASTE AS
LONG AS THEY ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING --
11:35:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THAT ABLE TO BE DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING TO COME BACK WITH THAT, THOSE EASEMENTS?
11:35:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WITH THE STIPULATIONS THEREFORE
REQUESTED AND PLACED ON BY THE APPLICANT.
11:35:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

CLERK.
11:35:34PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 5, 2026 AT
10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:35:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES REGULAR BUSINESS.
NEW BUSINESS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
11:36:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SWITCHING GEARS, IS SOMEBODY ELSE GOING TO
TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND
LEADING UP TO IT?
11:36:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHY I DISTRIBUTED THAT ONE MEMO.
IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO BRING IT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT.
11:36:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD JUST ASK THE MAYOR'S STAFF,
ESPECIALLY THE POLITICAL PEOPLE HAVE CREATED A LOT OF CHAOS
AND DIVISIVENESS IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
I WOULD ASK THEM TO STOP.
IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO SEND A MEMO TO THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION, SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT, BUT USING THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO THREATEN AND HAVE HER STAFF BULLY PEOPLE IS
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THE IDEA OF A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION IS THEY ARE SUPPOSED
TO BE INDEPENDENT.
ANYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION, BUT HEAVY

BULLYING AND LEGAL THREATS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.
THANK YOU.
11:36:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:36:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A COUPLE, IF I MAY.
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW LAURA BLANK, VERY NICE LADY,
POLITICALLY INVOLVED.
HER FATHER JOSEPH BUGELLI, WAS A WORLD WAR II VETERAN,
HARBOR GREEN, NEW TAMPA RESIDENT, PASSED ON.
I WANTED TO GIVE IN HIS NAME A COMMENDATION TO THE FAMILY
THIS WEEKEND, IF I MAY.
11:37:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:37:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THEN THERE IS THE NIGHT TO SHINE.
EFFORT BY TIM TEBOW FOR A PROM FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL
DISABILITIES.
THEY HAVE ONE AT ST. JAMES METHODIST AND IDLEWILD BAPTIST.
I WANTED TO PRESENT THEM A COUNCIL COMMENDATION THIS WEEKEND
IF I MAY.
11:37:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.

OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:37:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY, I MOTION FOR LOGISTICS AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT TO REPORT ON THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW TAMPA
SUBSTATION AT THE MARCH 26 MEETING.
LET ME DEFINE WHAT I MEAN BY A SUBSTATION.
I WANT TO START TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE FORTHCOMING BUDGET DISCUSSIONS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING.
BY THE SUBSTATION, I DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN A HUGE THING
LIKE WE HAVE IN DISTRICT TWO NEAR STATION 13 NEAR BUSCH
GARDENS, SOME SORT OF A SUBSTATION PRESENCE.
I WANT TO GET THAT CONVERSATION STARTED FOR EVER TAKES OVER
AT DISTRICT 7.
GOD WILLING WE CAN GET SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET AND PUSH IT
WITH THE NEXT MAYOR AND NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN NEW TAMPA HAVE WANTED FOR A
VERY, VERY, VERY LONG TIME, SO I THINK BEGINNING A
DISCUSSION ON THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:38:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH THAT?
11:38:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST A REPORT FROM LOGISTICS AND ASSET
MANAGEMENT TO REPORT ON THE POSSIBILITY AND FEASIBILITY OF A
SUBSTATION OR SUBSTATION PRESENCE AT NEW TAMPA FOR TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
MARCH 26.

11:39:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WRITTEN OR IN PERSON?
11:39:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO IN PERSON.
11:39:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, WHEN YOU SAY A
SUBSTATION SO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY LOOK AT THAT
KNOW WHAT IT IS REFERRING TO, SUBSTATION OF WHAT, POLICE,
FIRE?
11:39:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:39:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M SORRY.
IT'S LATE.
AS LONG AS IT IS PART OF THE MOTION.
11:39:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU.
11:39:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:39:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN'T.
WE ALREADY HAVE SEVEN STAFF REPORTS.
11:39:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DO WRITTEN.
I'LL DO WRITTEN.
11:39:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:39:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

11:39:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:40:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FIRST, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING ADOPTION HEARINGS
FOR TA/CPA 26-01 AND TA/CPA 26-02 ON JUNE 25, 2026 AT
5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE CITY
CLERK WITH A FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
11:40:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:40:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO BLACK
HISTORY CELEBRATION.
I FORGET THE NAME OF THE NONPROFIT IS ESCAPING ME.
BUT HOSTED 8th ANNUAL BLACK HISTORY GALA WHERE THEY
RECOGNIZED LOCAL AFRICAN EDUCATORS.
TRAILBLAZING EDUCATORS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BUT A FEW
THAT WERE RECOGNIZED, SO WE HAD HENRY SHAKE WASHINGTON
RECOGNIZED FOR HIS 42 YEARS OF SERVICE.
A GUY I KNOW VERY WELL BY THE NAME OF OWEN YOUNG WHO HAPPENS
TO BE MY DAD FOR 30 YEARS OF SERVICE IN EDUCATION.
OTIS KITCHEN, 23 YEARS, ALONG WITH HIS MOTHER, VIVIAN
KITCHEN WHO WASN'T BEING HONORED THAT NIGHT, BUT SEVERAL OF
THE HONOREES RECOGNIZED HER FOR HER COMMITMENT AND IMPACT AS

AN EDUCATOR FOR 34 YEARS OF SERVICE.
ALSO HAD COLBERT WHO GOT A CHAMPION OF EXCELLENCE AWARD.
YOLANDA CAPERS BEACON -- LEGACY OF EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE
AND CHAD ASPIRING FUTURE GENERATIONS AWARD.
VERY AWESOME, AWESOME CELEBRATION.
I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A RIDE-ALONG WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS AT STATION NUMBER 18 AND THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
IT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL.
THANK YOU, DARLENE.
THAT'S US, MYSELF WITH THE CREW THAT WAS THERE.
WHEN THEY GOT THERE, THEY ACTUALLY WERE ALREADY ON A CALL.
DARLENE AND I GOT THERE AND THERE WAS NO ONE THERE.
WE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND SAID I THINK THAT'S THEM OVER
THERE.
WE WALKED OVER AND THEY WERE BUSY.
WE GOT A TOUR OF THE STATION WHICH WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN THE
1950s.
STILL HAS THE ORIGINAL TILE FROM WHEN IT WAS BUILT.
THEY GAVE US KIND OF A TOUR OF WHERE THEY LIVE.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY COOKING WHILE WE WERE THERE.
I GOT TO TRY ON THE UNIFORM.
THAT'S ME.
THAT IS MY FACE AFTER I PUT THE TANK ON.
NO, DARLENE, DON'T MOVE IT DOWN.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY FACE AFTER I PUT THE TANK ON BECAUSE
YOU REALIZE JUST HOW HEAVY IT IS.
I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE HELMET OR ANYTHING.
JUST IT WENT THROUGH MY MIND, WAIT A MINUTE, SO YOU ARE
INSIDE OF A BURNING BUILDING, YOU'RE WEARING ALL OF THIS,
YOU HAVE A HELMET ON, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO THROUGH WALLS.
YOU MAY HAVE TO PICK SOMEONE UP THAT IS MAYBE UNCONSCIOUS.
SO I HAD THAT REALIZATION LIKE WOW.
IT WAS REALLY AWESOME EXPERIENCE.
I ENCOURAGE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO AND EXPLORE.
I HAVE A FEW OTHER RIDE-ALONGS SCHEDULED WITH CODE
ENFORCEMENT AND TPD.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE INNER WORKINGS OF HOW
EVERYBODY DOES THEIR JOB.
I THINK IT'S GOOD AND HELPS US TO DO OUR JOB BETTER.
I WENT TO BELMONT HEIGHTS.
THEY HAD THE BUILDING, MY FINANCIAL FUTURES PROGRAM, WHICH
WAS A GRANT GIVEN BY THE UNITED WAY SUNCOAST.
WRITTEN BY POSITIVE SPIN WITH THEIR PROGRAM COORDINATOR
SHAKIRA PARKER.
AWESOME.
KIDS WENT THROUGH SIX WEEKS OF THE PROGRAM, SO THEY WERE
GETTING THEIR FINAL CERTIFICATE AND WE GOT TO HEAR THEIR
STORIES AND HEAR ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO BE.
THEY ARE ALL SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

REALLY COOL.
LASTLY, I LEARNED TODAY WHILE WE WERE ON BREAK THAT A
GENTLEMAN IN SULPHUR SPRINGS WAS RIDING HIS BIKE WAS HIT AND
KILLED TODAY.
AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND HAVING SAFE
TRANSPORTATION AND HAVING WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY IS
IMPORTANT.
I DID SOME WORK IN SULPHUR SPRINGS WHEN WE WERE DOING
SERVICE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ACTION PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
CAME UP CONSISTENTLY WAS THE TRAFFIC ON NEBRASKA AND HOW
UNSAFE IT IS WHEN YOU ARE WALKING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK AND BIKE.
RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SPRINGS THEATER.
11:44 P.M. THAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
HAVING SAFE STREETS AND HAVING ALTERNATIVE ROUTES OF
TRANSPORTATION BUT ALSO SAFE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES OF
TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD BE LOSING THEIR LIFE
FOR RIDING A BIKE WHICH IS SOMETHING WE PROMOTE AS A CITY.
SO PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:44:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOTHING.
11:44:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO WISH MR. SHELBY A HAPPY
BIRTHDAY, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY.
HE GETS TO WORK ON HIS BIRTHDAY, SO I'LL HOLD OFF.

11:45:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS NOT WORK.
THIS IS PLEASURE.
11:45:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE ALWAYS HAS A GOOD TIME.
11:45:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S REALLY FAST.
THANK YOU, SIR.
FOR COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, VIVIAN KITCHEN IS A WONDERFUL
PERSON.
OTIS IS A FRIEND OF MINE.
THEY ARE GOOD FOLKS.
I MEANT TO DO THIS.
I WAS MEETING WITH LOCAL 754 TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS WITH THE
RAYS.
AND THE ISSUE OF FLEET MAINTENANCE IN STATION 9 CAME UP.
I WISH TO DO A MOTION FOR MARCH 5 I BELIEVE IT IS FOR A
WRITTEN REPORT ON THE STATUS OF FLEET MAINTENANCE, PROPERTY
ACQUISITION, INCLUDING --
11:45:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROPERTY.
WE OWN IT.
11:45:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE DO?
I'LL BE DAMNED.
I'M EMBARRASSED.
11:45:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLAN.
REMEMBER, WE HAD TO FIGHT TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO
PUT ANYTHING ELSE ON.

IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE FLEET AND SUPPLY AND THEY WANTED TO
OPEN IT UP TO OTHER PARTS AND WE HAD TO FIGHT TO MAKE SURE.
11:46:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW WHAT, I HEREBY WITHDRAW THAT.
I'M SLIGHTLY EMBARRASSED.
11:46:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE THERE IS AN UPDATE COMING.
THEN DO AN UPDATE.
MIGHT AS WELL.
11:46:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'LL REEDUCATE MYSELF ON IT.
11:46:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE A DO-OVER NEXT THURSDAY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:46:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE USUALLY SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF
FOR STAYING SO LATE.
WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS, YOU ALL DIDN'T.
11:46:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT DO YOU MEAN LATE?
IT'S NOT MORNING YET.
11:46:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WILL BE BY THE TIME WE GET OUT OF HERE.
11:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NOTHING ELSE.
11:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:46:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WAIT.
BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I CANNOT LEAVE WITHOUT REMINDING YOU AND
THE PUBLIC THAT YOU HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THIS COMING
TUESDAY EVENING AT 5 P.M. FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE
CONTINUATION OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRANSMITTAL
HEARINGS.
I'M JUST REMINDING YOU THAT IT IS UNUSUAL TO HAVE A SPECIAL

CALL MEETING ON A TUESDAY NIGHT.
11:47:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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