TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 2, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

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9:03:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
HOPE YOU GUYS ARE DOING WELL.
AND HAPPY PRE-EASTER TO EVERYONE WHO CELEBRATES.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG.
9:03:20AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL RIGHTY.
SO, TODAY, I AM SO EXCITED.
WE HAVE PASTOR SAM CANCHOLA, THE PASTOR OF RADIANT CHURCH
HEIGHTS.
ONE OF RADIANT CHURCH'S 13 LOCATIONS SERVING COMMUNITIES
ACROSS TAMPA BAY.
PASTOR SAM IS A GRADUATE OF SAN JOSE STATE UNIVERSITY AND
MARRIED TO AZLYN CANCHOLA.
PASTOR SAM LEADS AND SERVES IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD PROUDLY WITHIN DISTRICT FIVE ALONGSIDE
COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG WHERE HE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT
STRENGTHENING FAMILIES, BUILDING COMMUNITY, AND SERVING THE

CITY THROUGH FAITH IN LOCAL PARTNERSHIP.
I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED TO BRING PASTOR SAM TODAY BECAUSE HE
IS ALSO AN AWESOME NEIGHBOR TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
PASTOR SAM, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION PLEASE?
9:04:08AM >> YES, DEFINITELY.
9:04:14AM >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING AND REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AS NAYA MENTIONED.
GREAT NEIGHBOR, BUT ALSO JUST RECENTLY MOVING HERE ABOUT
FIVE YEARS AGO, I HAVE BEEN -- MY WIFE AZLYN AND I HAVE BEEN
WARMLY WELCOMED BY ALL THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING.
WE HAVE NOW CONSIDERED IT HOME, AND THAT IS NOW WHERE WE GET
TO BE NEIGHBORS WITH THE YOUNG FAMILY.
VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL YOU ARE DOING AND GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE LORD AND PRAY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF THIS CITY.
YOUR WORD SAYS TO SEEK THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY WHERE YOU
HAVE PLACED US.
TODAY, WE LIFT UP TAMPA BEFORE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR EVERY LEADER THAT IS IN THIS ROOM WHO CARRIES
THE WEIGHT OF PUBLIC TRUST.
WOULD YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM THAT IS PURE, PEACEABLE AND FULL
OF MERCY?
WOULD YOU GIVE THEM COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT EVEN WHEN IT
IS DIFFICULT.
GIVE THEM HUMILITY TO LISTEN WELL, CONVICTION TO LEAD JUSTLY

AND COMPASSION FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND EVERY POLICY, EVERY
BUDGET, AND EVERY DECISION.
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU LET RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE SHAPE
THIS CITY.
WOULD YOU LET NEIGHBORHOODS FLOURISH, LET OUR FAMILIES BE
STRENGTHENED, WOULD YOU LET BUSINESSES PROSPER, LET SCHOOLS
BE SAFE, LET THE VULNERABLE BE PROTECTED, AND WOULD YOU LET
UNITY RISE BEFORE DIVISION.
YOUR WORD TELLS US WHAT DOES THE LORD REQUIRE OF US TO ACT
JUSTLY, TO LOVE MERCY, AND TO WALK HUMBLY WITH OUR GOD.
SO I PRAY THAT THAT SPIRIT MARKS EVERY CONVERSATION IN THIS
CHAMBER TODAY.
AS WE APPROACH EASTER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE GOSPEL TRUTH
THAT THROUGH THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST, SIN
DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL WORD.
DARKNESS DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL WORD, AND EVEN DEATH DOES
NOT HAVE THE FINAL WORD, BECAUSE JESUS ROSE, THERE IS HOPE
FOR EVERY HEART AND EVERY CITY.
SO BLESS TAMPA, BLESS THESE LEADERS, BLESS DISTRICT FIVE AND
LET THIS CITY BE MARKED BY PEACE, WISDOM, AND FLOURISHING.
WE PRAY ALL OF THIS IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
AMEN.
9:06:23AM >> WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE?
9:06:25AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:06:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:06:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:06:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:06:49AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:06:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:06:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:06:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:06:53AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A QUORUM.
9:06:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'D LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR
SESSION HELD ON MARCH 26, 2026.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:07:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I'M REMOVING ITEM NUMBER 2, THE ATU.
IT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA BECAUSE THE ATU TRUSTEE,
RICHARD JACKSON LET HR KNOW THEY HAD NOT MADE AN ATU
EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH SELECTION FOR APRIL.
MY OFFICE HAS REACHED OUT AND ASKED WHEN THEY WOULD BE READY
TO RESUME THE AWARD PRESENTATION.

AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO
CORRECT THE CALENDAR.
9:07:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
I HAD SENT OUT A MEMO ASKING THAT WE PULL FROM THE CONSENT
AGENDA ITEMS 14 AND 15.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?
9:08:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION.
DO YOU WANT THAT PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND DO YOU WANT
STAFF PRESENT?
9:08:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE CAN JUST TALK ABOUT THAT DURING
THE -- WHEN WE GO TO THE AGENDA ITEM, OF ITEMS THAT HAVE
BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE PRESENT, THEY ARE WELCOME TO BE
PRESENT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

FOR YOUR ATTENTION, FOR ITEM 16 AND 17, THERE IS A
SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY ATTORNEY MORRIS
MASSEY, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES -- BEFORE WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS?
EVERYBODY GOOD?
OKAY.
STAFF REPORTS.
WHAT DO WE NEED HERE?
ITEM NUMBER 25.
DO WE NEED STAFF FOR 25?
NO.
DO WE NEED STAFF FOR 26?
OKAY.
YES.
9:09:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
26, 27, 28.
9:09:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
29.
WE GOT THE MEMO FROM THEM.
9:09:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THERE IS A GENTLEMAN, ERIC KAISER WORKS FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
I DON'T BELIEVE HE WAS SPEAKING ON THAT.
IF HE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, THEN THE MEMO WILL
SUFFICE.
I CERTAINLY DON'T NEED ANYONE FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
HERE.

I SHOULD KNOW IN A SHORT TIME.
MEMO BUT NO STAFF.
9:09:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOT IT.
ITEM NUMBER 30.
THIS IS YOURS ALSO WITH THE AUTISM.
I'LL SAY NO ON THAT.
9:09:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
9:09:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS, DID YOU GET THE
MEMO FROM THE CLERK?
9:09:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THEY ARE IN ONE.
ABSOLUTELY.
I'M SORRY.
I MEANT THAT FOR 30.
29 STAFF REPORTS -- STRIKE THAT, THE WRITTEN REPORT
SUFFICES.
30 WRITTEN REPORT SUFFICES BUT I RESERVE THE RIGHT FOR
MR. KAISER SHOULD HE COME.
9:09:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
31.
IN PERSON.
SO YES.
32?
9:10:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

9:10:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THEN THE REST OF THEM ARE WRITTEN
STAFF REPORTS.
9:10:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 33, 34, AND 35.
9:10:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 33,
34 AND 35 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
THE AGENDA IS APPROVED.
CAN I ASK FOR COUNCIL'S --
9:10:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE?
9:10:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO.
CAN I ASK FOR COUNCIL'S PERMISSION, LITTLE BIT OF CHAIR'S
PRIVILEGE?
I HAVE A STATEMENT I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD
ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

9:11:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I YIELD THE FLOOR TO CHAIR CLENDENIN.
9:11:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO A MEMBER OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
COMMISSION LAST WEEK CALLED A NEWS REPORTER AND MADE SOME
ALLEGATIONS PERTAINING ABOUT ME AND THEN ALSO FROM THE DAIS
YESTERDAY DURING THE COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING REPEATED
THOSE ALLEGATIONS.
I WANTED TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS
PERFECTLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT MY STATUS IS.
SO LET ME BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
THE RECENT CLAIMS MADE BY COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOSTAL
ACCUSING ME OF NEFARIOUSLY RELEASING DOCUMENTS RELATED TO
THE RAYS DEAL ARE COMPLETELY FALSE AND WITHOUT MERIT.
AT NO POINT HAVE I EVER POSSESSED PHYSICALLY OR
ELECTRONICALLY ANY SUCH DOCUMENTS.
THE ALLEGATION ITSELF IS A COMPLETELY FABRICATED POLITICAL
ATTACK DESIGNED TO MISLEAD AND DISTRACT.
AT NO POINT HAVE I VIOLATED ANY LAW OR ETHICS CODE.
THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE NOT ONLY BASELESS, THEY ARE RECKLESS
AND DAMAGING.
PUBLIC OFFICIALS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENGAGE IN HONEST,
FACT-BASED DISCOURSE, NOT TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION FOR
POLITICAL PURPOSES.
COMMISSIONER WOSTAL IS HEREBY ON NOTICE IF THESE FALSE
ALLEGATIONS CONTINUE, PARTICULARLY ANY CLAIM THAT I'VE ACTED

ILLEGALLY OR UNETHICALLY, I WILL TAKE APPROPRIATE LEGAL
ACTION, INCLUDING ISSUING A FORMAL CEASE AND DESIST.
I WILL NOT ALLOW MY INTEGRITY TO BE UNDERMINED BY UNFOUNDED
ATTACKS.
I REMAIN COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND
SERVING THE PUBLIC IN GOOD FAITH.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT?
9:12:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SET THAT RECORD STRAIGHT.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, MY JAW DROPPED TO THE FLOOR WHEN I HEARD
THAT.
LET'S HONOR SOME POLICE.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:13:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL LUIS VIERA.
IF I MAY, I WANTED TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE THAT I SEE
HERE BEHIND US, OFFICER ASHLEY BELL WHO IS HERE, WHO IS THE
DAUGHTER OF THE LATE DETECTIVE RANDY BELL, WHO ALONG WITH
DETECTIVE RICKY CHILDERS AND TROOPER JAMES CROOKS GAVE ALL
IN 1998 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND IS A -- TROOPER CROOKS.
WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU, MA'AM.
GOD BLESS YOU.

REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
LUIS VIERA FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WE'RE HERE -- STRIKE THAT -- WE'RE HERE TO HONOR OFFICER
DARRYL McNEIL FOR THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
WE DO THIS TO REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE
SERVE THAT SUPPORTS OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING POLICE
OFFICERS.
CITY OF TAMPA IS A VERY PRO-COP AREA AND THAT CUTS ACROSS
POLITICAL LINES, I BELIEVE, AND THAT REFLECTS THIS.
IF I MAY, I'LL HAVE CHIEF BERCAW SPEAK ABOUT THE HONOREE.
9:14:12AM >>CHIEF BERCAW:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
IT IS AN HONOR TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE OUR
OFFICERS WHO ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO KEEP OUR CITY
SAFE.
TODAY, I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU WITH MY COMMAND STAFF,
INCLUDING FOUR NEWLY PROMOTED.
MANY OF THEM ARE FAMILIAR TO YOU ALREADY.
THE NEWLY PROMOTED INCLUDE DEPUTY CHIEF ERIC DeFELICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
HE WILL BE OVER OUR INVESTIGATION AND ADMINISTRATION.
AND DEPUTY CHIEF PAT MESSMER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
HE WILL BE OVER OUR OPERATIONS.
AND MAJOR LISA PURCELL.
[ APPLAUSE ]

SHE WILL BE OVER OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, WHICH
IS OUR HOMICIDE AND SEX CRIMES UNITS.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MAJOR WHITNEY McCORMICK.
[ APPLAUSE ]
SHE WILL BE STAYING IN DISTRICT 2.
SHE WAS THE CAPTAIN THERE, AND NOW SHE WILL BE THE MAJOR IN
DISTRICT 2.
IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE THE COMMAND STAFF THAT I HAVE.
OUR ENTIRE STAFF LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR GREAT
PARTNERSHIP WITH COUNCIL.
WITH THAT, I AM PROUD TO RECOGNIZE OUR OFFICER, OFFICER
DARRYL McNEIL, AS OUR APRIL 2026 OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
HIS EXCEPTIONAL PROFESSIONALISM AND PROACTIVE LEADERSHIP
WITHIN OUR DISTRICT 2 AREA.
HE WORKS ON OUR STREET ANTI-CRIMES SQUAD AND ALSO ON OUR
SQUAD TEAM.
OVER THE PAST YEAR, OFFICER McNEIL IDENTIFIED VACANT
APARTMENT UNITS AS A PRIMARY CATALYST FOR SUSTAINED INCREASE
OF LOCAL CRIME.
HE INDEPENDENTLY DEVELOPED AND EXECUTED A STRATEGICALLY
OPERATION PLAN TO RECLAIM THESE PROPERTIES.
BEING AN OFFICER ON THE STREET ANTICRIME SQUAD, THAT IS NOT
AN EASY TASK TO DO, TO FORMULATE THOSE PLANS WITH ALL THAT
YOU ALREADY HAVE ON YOUR PLATE.
BUT BY BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS,

CODE ENFORCEMENT, HE SUCCESSFULLY ELIMINATED HAZARDOUS
ENVIRONMENTS AND ESTABLISHED LONG-TERM SECURITY MEASURES
THAT HAVE STABILIZED THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING AND TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS.
IT'S ENSURING THAT IT LASTS.
HIS EFFORTS RESULTED IN 22 REPORTS, MULTIPLE ARRESTS FOR
NARCOTICS AND TRESPASSING AND A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN
CALLS FOR SERVICE.
BY DISRUPTING LOCATIONS, BEING USED FOR NARCOTIC ACTIVITY,
THEFT, AND OTHER CRIMINAL OFFENSES, HIS INITIATIVE IMPROVED
OVERALL SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE TEMPLE CREST
AREA, WHICH IS NEAR 50th AND BUSCH, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR
WITH THAT AREA.
BEYOND HIS TACTICAL ACHIEVEMENTS, OFFICER McNEIL ALSO
EMBODIES THE HEART OF COMMUNITY POLICING.
THIS PAST HOLIDAY SEASON, HE PERSONALLY FUNDED AND
DISTRIBUTED OVER $1200 IN CHRISTMAS GIFTS TO MORE THAN 50
UNDERPRIVILEGED CHILDREN.
FOSTERING THAT VITAL TRUST THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT HE SERVES
TO PROTECT.
WHETHER HE IS RESPONDING TO A HIGH-RISK SWAT CALL-OUT OR
STRENGTHENING NEIGHBORHOOD BONDS THROUGH HIS OWN GENEROSITY,
OFFICER McNEIL'S DEDICATION TO CRIME REDUCTION AND
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SHOWS THAT HE IS A TRUE GUARDIAN FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND A WELL DESERVED RECIPIENT OF OUR APRIL

2026 OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, CHIEF.
OFFICER, BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, THERE ARE A LOT OF
FOLKS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD TO
SHOW YOU SMALL TOKEN OF THEIR APPRECIATION.
MR. BARCLAY.
9:17:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO THE OFFICER FOR A JOB WELL
DONE.
9:18:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
OFFICER, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE
ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
HEARING YOUR STORY, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY
AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO YOU, YOUR FAMILY, FOR YOUR SACRIFICE AND WHAT
YOU DO, ESPECIALLY WHAT YOU DO FOR THE KIDS.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
YOUR VERY OWN.
AS MR. CHAIR MENTIONED, DO NOT FUMBLE.
CONGRATULATIONS.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MARY DILLON, STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
OFFICER McNEIL.
THANK YOU, ON BEHALF OF STRAZ CENTER, OFFER YOU TICKETS TO A
COMPLIMENTARY SHOW.
PLEASE ENJOY.
YOU'LL RECEIVE OTHER BENEFITS THAT YOU CAN HAVE A MEAL AND
THEN ENJOY YOUR EVENING.
9:19:05AM >> A LOT OF GOOD SHOWS COMING UP THIS SEASON.
9:19:09AM >> EXCITING SEASON.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, OFFICER McNEIL.
LORI OSBORNE.
I'M WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO UPCOMING PERFORMANCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT ONLY KEEPING OUR CITY SAFE BUT
TRULY MAKING A DIFFERENCE WITH THAT COMMUNITY.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING AND CONGRATULATIONS.
MY NAME IS MARYBETH WILLIAMS.

I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK, I HAVE A FEW
THINGS TO PRESENT TO YOU.
THE FIRST IS A PERSONALIZED PAVER THAT WILL BE PLACED ALONG
THE TAMPA RIVERWALK IN HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE.
NEXT, A FEW GIFTS FROM OUR MEMBERS.
ON BEHALF OF HOSPITALITY, WE HAVE PASSES TO PIRATE WATER
TAXI, YACHT STARSHIP, AND THE LOST PEARL.
A GIFT CERTIFICATE FROM FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING.
AND A GIFT CERTIFICATE FROM SPLITSVILLE.
WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THEM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MARY LOU BAILEY.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
WE WANT TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR ALL OF THE POLICE.
USUALLY MARK HANEY IS HERE WITH ME.
HE PICKS OUT THE ANIMALS.
HE PICKED A GOOD ONE THIS TIME.
PAINTED DOG.
COUPLE OF FACTS.
THEY HUNT IN PACKS JUST LIKE THE TPD AND THEY HAVE AN 80%
SUCCESS RATE OF GETTING THEIR PREY.
LIONS HAVE A 20%.
WE ALWAYS THINK OF LIONS AS THE BIG SUCCESSFUL HUNTERS, BUT

THE DOGS ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL.
YOUR STORY IS IMPRESSIVE.
I'M OFTEN HERE IN COUNCIL REPRESENTING MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I APPRECIATE YOUR FOCUS ON MAKING NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE AND ALL
OF THE TEAMWORK AND EVERYBODY THAT SERVES.
YOU'RE AWESOME.
CONGRATULATIONS.
INSIDE THE BASKET IS AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO.
FOR THE NEXT YEAR COME FOR FREE, PARK FOR FREE, ENJOY OUR
EVENTS, ENJOY THE ANIMALS.
THANKS AGAIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:16AM >> I'M GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY
AND 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING IN TAMPA, FOR SERVING TAMPA.
WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND RELAX AT ONE OF OUR
RESTAURANTS.
WHILE THE WEATHER IS NICE, ENJOY OUTDOOR OYSTERS AT ULELE,
SHOW AT THE COLUMBIA.
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:44AM >> LEO GEARY, BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THE AWARD.
AGAIN, EVERY TIME I'M UP HERE, IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO DO
THIS EVERY TIME, EVERY MONTH.
I TRULY APPRECIATE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU

GUYS --
9:22:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, HEY, HEY.
THE MICROPHONE IS IN THE PODIUM.
I KNOW IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE.
WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP FOR PROSPERITY ON THE YouTube.
9:22:09AM >> I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS
THAT PUTS THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU A FULL
FREE MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
THE LETTER THAT JENNIFER WRITES, UNFORTUNATELY SHE IS OUT OF
TOWN.
I'LL GET THAT TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
I'LL BRING IT TO YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE AT.
ALSO GOODIES INSIDE THE BAG.
CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
9:22:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ALREADY FEEL BAD FOR WHOEVER YOUR
TEACHER WAS WHEN YOU WERE 14 YEARS OLD.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:22:42AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, PRESENT YOU WITH A
GIFT CARD FOR A NIGHT OUT ON DINNER.
YOU DESERVE THIS.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:03AM >> I FACE THE FRONT ALL THE TIME.
I'M TRAINABLE.
I DON'T NEED A TUTORIAL TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
ON BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET AND OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, WE'RE
PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, ENJOY
YOURSELF OVER THERE, LUNCH OR DINNER.
YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, LUNCH
OR DINNER.
ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, PROVIDING YOU WITH
A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER.
THE LAST THING IS, PLEASE GO AND WORK OUT SO YOU DON'T GET
OVERWEIGHT.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE BUSY ANYWAY.
LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE IN THIS HOLY PERIOD OF TIME TO GIVE
MORE AND TAKE LESS FOR YOURSELF.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE THAT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:08AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA AND
A GRATEFUL TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND TAMPA GOVERNMENT, IT'S OUR

PLEASURE TO HONOR YOU, SIR, AS THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH WITH
THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
GOD BLESS YOU AND HAPPY EASTER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:20AM >> I WASN'T PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING.
I FOUND OUT ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO I MIGHT HAVE TO SAY
SOMETHING.
I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN HERE.
I HAVE BEEN BLESSED, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY TO FEEL LIKE I HAVE
AN ABUNDANCE OF WHAT I DESERVE, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY
THAT'S HERE.
I APPRECIATE MY SQUAD THAT'S HERE.
I REALLY LIKE TO THANK CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL IN THE CROWD WHO
HAS BEEN IN MY LIFE FOR A LITTLE OVER A DECADE.
HE HAS ALWAYS, WHETHER IT'S TOUGH LOVE OR JUST STRAIGHT
HONEST LEADERSHIP, HE'S ALWAYS BEEN -- HE'S BEEN GOOD TO ME
AND ALWAYS POINTED ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
HE ACTUALLY POINTED ME TO THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK HIM AND EVERYBODY HERE.
SERGEANT ZALANSKY.
HE IS THE MAN.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW HIM, YOU SHOULD.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I APPRECIATE HIM PUTTING ME IN FOR THIS AWARD AND THANK
STAFF FOR FINDING MY DAILY ACTIVITIES WORTHY OF ALL THIS

THANKS AND PRAISE.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:25:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
AND THE CITY OF TAMPA AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID FOR YOUR
CONTRIBUTIONS.
THIS COUNCIL IS A VERY BIG SUPPORTER OF TAMPA PD AND THE MEN
AND WOMEN THAT SERVE OUR CITY.
THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO EVERY
DAY.
WE DO APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
9:25:52AM >> THANK YOU.
9:25:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, CHIEF, THE FOLKS THAT YOU PROMOTED,
DO YOU WANT TO BRING THEM UP TO THE PODIUM REAL QUICK SO
EVERYBODY CAN SEE THEM?
I KNOW YOU ANNOUNCED THEM ALL, BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD
THING TO DO.
SOME OF US ARE FAMILIAR AND SOME OF US ARE NOT.
CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY.
WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES REAL QUICK AND WHAT YOUR NEW
POSITION IS.
9:26:12AM >> ERIC DeFELICE.
I WILL BE THE NEW DEPUTY CHIEF OVER SUPPORT AND CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATIONS.

9:26:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
PATRICK MESSMER.
I WILL BE THE DEPUTY CHIEF OVER OPERATIONS AND I WILL BE
SEEING YOU AGAIN SHORTLY FOR THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
WHITNEY McCORMICK.
I'M GOING TO BE THE MAJOR IN DISTRICT 2.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS LISA PURCELL.
I'M GOING TO BE THE MAJOR OVER THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS
DIVISION.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL FOUR OF YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:26:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE RELATED BUT UNRELATED THING.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THE INVESTIGATION AROUND
MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
CHIEF BERCAW AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT ON THE WAY UP, THE
COMMUNITY IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO.
THAT WAS PARTICULARLY SCARY FOR THE HARDWORKING MEN AND
WOMEN TRYING TO PROTECT US ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING WITH THAT.
I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY GOING IN THAT GATE EVERY DAY.
SO THANK YOU.
9:27:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PICTURE TIME.
WE'RE TAKING A STRATEGIC PAUSE WAITING FOR CHARLIE TO COME
IN.
THERE HE IS.
WAITING FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
CAN WE GET THAT DOOR CLOSED?
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:30:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHOLE CREW.
9:30:09AM >> NOT QUITE.
9:30:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S MY PLEASURE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO BE
HERE TODAY ON AN OCCASION WHERE FINANCE, REFINANCE, AND DO
THE STUFF THAT WE TAKE FOR GRANTED.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE WORK TO KEEP THE CITY
RUNNING FINANCIALLY AND MENTALLY.
WITHOUT THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WOULDN'T BE THE CITY WE ARE
TODAY.
BUT THE REVENUE AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ACCOUNTING OFFICE
HAVE DONE MANY, MANY THINGS.
WHEN YOU READ THESE THINGS, YOU THINK THEY COME BY EVERY
YEAR JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE REVENUE AND FINANCE

DIVISION, YOU HAVE TO EARN IT, AM I CORRECT?
9:30:43AM >> YES.
9:30:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHO EARNED IT THIS YEAR?
9:30:46AM >> WE DID.
9:30:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO HAPPY YOU SAID THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IT IS A PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS A
COMMENDATION TO YOU IN RECOGNITION OF RECEIVING THE
CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL
REPORTING FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION
OF THE UNITED STATES AND EVEN CANADA.
WE MIGHT HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT IN CANADA.
BUT ANYWAY, THIS CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT IS THE HIGHEST
FORM OF RECOGNITION IN THE AREA OF GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING AND
FINANCIAL REPORTING.
AND THIS IS NOT GIVEN AWAY EVERY YEAR.
COINCIDENTALLY, IT'S GOT TO BE GIVEN BY THEM WHO SAY YOU
HAVE DONE EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS
OF WHICH YOU ARE GOVERNED BY IN ACCOUNTING.
WITH THAT, WHO AM I GOING TO PRESENT TO?
9:31:30AM >> MS. McCARTER.
9:31:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AS I UNDERSTAND, A LITTLE BIRD CAME TO
SEE ME THE OTHER DAY AND TOLD ME YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE, ONE
OF THE LEADERS IN DOING THIS FOR THIS YEAR'S ACHIEVEMENT AND
MANY YEARS IN THE PAST, AM I CORRECT?

9:31:43AM >> CORRECT.
9:31:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HAPPY TO SAY SHE SAID CORRECT, IF I WOULD
HAVE SAID THAT, WELL, HE'S BSING WITH ME AND I DON'T MEAN
BARBRA STREISAND.
SHE'S HUMBLE ENOUGH NOT TO RECOGNIZE HERSELF EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE DOING IT FOR HER.
DONE A YEOMAN'S JOB OF MAKING SURE THIS DEPARTMENT KEEPS
RUNNING NOT FAST, EQUALLY AS INTELLIGENT, ALL THE
CERTIFICATES OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE DO
TO GIVE THIS AWARD AWAY.
THIS IS THE 37th YEAR.
THAT'S ALMOST MY AGE.
IT'S NOT GIVEN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT IS GIVEN BECAUSE INDIVIDUALS LIKE ALL OF THESE BEHIND ME
HAVE HAD SOME INPUT IN MAKING SURE THIS CITY IS ALWAYS
RUNNING ON TIME, ALWAYS RUNNING FINANCIALLY FISCALLY AND HAS
THE REPORTING RECORD NEEDED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR WHOLE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT YOU
HAVE DONE AND WHAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO DO.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU VERY VALUABLE TO ALL OF THE
TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT MEANS FROM THE HEART, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:32:51AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:55AM >> I DO WANT TO THANK ALL THE REVENUE AND FINANCE.

IT WASN'T JUST ME, BUT IT WAS THE WHOLE EFFORT OF THE TEAM
AND PLUS WE DO HAVE ONE WHO IS ABSENT, MY MANAGER, MY
ACCOUNTING FINANCIAL OFFICER, SABRINA McADOO, SHE HAS ALSO
PLAYED A GREAT ROLE IN MAKING SURE WE GET THIS AWARD EVERY
YEAR.
THANK YOU, MR. PERRY, FOR HELPING US ALONG THE WAY.
AND EVERYBODY ELSE, AND EVERYONE WHO ISN'T PRESENT AS WELL,
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR MORE THAN TEN
YEARS, YOU KNOW THE JOB TODAY IS AT LEAST TEN TIMES MORE
DIFFICULT THAN IT WAS.
THE CITY IS RAPIDLY EXPANDING, BUDGETS ARE EXPANDING.
THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR FINANCES HAS EXPANDED.
WHAT YOU ALL DO IS JUST OUTSTANDING.
I MEAN, TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE TREMENDOUS GROWTH AND
NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN THE CITY AND DO IT SO
WELL AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT IS QUITE
REMARKABLE.
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]

CHARLIE, YOU ARE UP FOR THE NEXT ONE, TOO.
TAKE A LITTLE PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
I THINK WE CAN KICK THIS OFF.
IS THE CONSULTANT HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION?
MR. PERRY, CAN YOU KICK IT OFF?
9:34:40AM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
YES, I CAN.
9:35:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:35:12AM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
I LOST MY SCRIPT.
GOOD MORNING.
MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE ACCOUNTING
OFFICE.
THEY DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK.
10 MILLION TRANSACTIONS A MONTH THEY HAVE TO DO AND DO IT
PROPERLY.
I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEE
STUDY.
THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WAS BACK IN 2000.
DURING THAT 2000 PRESENTATION, COUNCIL TOOK THE FOLLOWING
ACTIONS: ONE, THEY FOR THE FIRST TIME APPROVED A WATER
CAPACITY FEE.
THEY DECREASED THE WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEE, AND THEY SET AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAPACITY FEE OF ZERO, WHICH MEANS ANY
HOUSE OR STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING DESIGNATED AS AFFORDABLE

HOUSING IS NOT CHARGED A CAPACITY FEE.
FINALLY, THEY ALSO ESTABLISH A STANDARD THAT WE REVIEW THESE
FEES EVERY FIVE YEARS.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST REVIEW OF THE FIVE-YEAR STUDY.
WE'VE ASKED RAFTELIS TO GO AHEAD AND CONDUCT THE STUDY.
THEY CONDUCTED THE STUDY.
AND WE'VE BRIEFED MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS
PREVIOUSLY.
WE ALSO WENT OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND BRIEFED
THEM TO OBTAIN THEIR IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS.
ONE OF THE AREAS I WANT TO POINT OUT AND MR. HAMILTON WILL
POINT IT OUT, WHILE WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE
WATER, WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEE ORDINANCE AT THE NEXT
MEETING, THE NEW FEES WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL NEXT
YEAR.
WE DO THAT TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPING COMMUNITY TO ADAPT AND
INCORPORATE THE NEW FEES WITHIN THEIR RATE STRUCTURE AS THEY
GO AHEAD AND PRICE OUT -- AS THEY GO AHEAD AND DO THEIR
PRICING.
I'LL INTRODUCE MR. MURRAY HAMILTON FROM RAFTELIS AND THEN
BRAD WILL WRAP IT UP.
MR. HAMILTON WILL GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP.
PLEASE BRING THE PRESENTATION UP, PLEASE.
9:37:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
9:37:31AM >> YES, MR. CHAIR.

MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME
IS MURRAY HAMILTON WITH RAFTELIS.
WE ARE A UTILITY RATE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT CONSULTING
FIRM WITH OUR FLORIDA OFFICE JUST NORTH OF ORLANDO IN
MAITLAND, FLORIDA.
AS MR. PERRY POINTED OUT, WE DID COMPLETE A WATER AND
WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEE STUDY.
QUITE FRANKLY, THESE TYPES OF STUDIES, BOTH FOR WATER AND
WASTEWATER SYSTEMS AS WELL AS MUNICIPAL IMPACT FEES ARE
PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST COMMON TYPE OF STUDIES THAT OUR
FIRM HAS BEEN CONDUCTING LATELY STATEWIDE.
MANY OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE
DIFFICULTY OF ENSURING THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT PAYS ITS OWN
SHARE IN ITS OWN WAY.
SO THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT ALONE IN THIS PURSUIT.
IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF TOPICS THAT
WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PURPOSE AND BACKGROUND, PART OF
WHICH MR. PERRY PROVIDED YOU JUST A MOMENT AGO.
WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS OUR IMPACT FEE CRITERIA.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES,
WE'RE REALLY REFERENCING HERE THE CALCULATION OF THE
CHARGES, THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY IMPLEMENTS THAT
PROGRAM, AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE SOURCES AND USES OF
THOSE FUNDS.

SO THESE ARE RESTRICTED REVENUE SOURCES TO THE WATER AND
WASTEWATER SYSTEM AND HAVE TO BE USED FOR SELECTED PURPOSES.
WE'LL TOUCH ON OUR COST METHODOLOGY AND OUR APPROACH TO THE
STUDY IN GENERAL AND THEN REVIEW OUR EXISTING AND PROPOSED
IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULES.
BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, I THINK MR. PERRY POINTED OUT, THE
LAST STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2020.
AT THAT TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL DID INCLUDE WITHIN THAT
ORDINANCE A REQUIREMENT TO REVIEW THESE FEE LEVELS AT LEAST
EVERY FIVE YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT NECESSITATED THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.
DURING THAT LAST STUDY, THE CITY COUNCIL FOUND THAT IT WAS
APPROPRIATE TO REDUCE THE WASTEWATER FEE.
AND THEN WE IMPLEMENTED A NEW FEE FOR THE WATER SYSTEM FOR
THE VERY FIRST TIME.
THE WATER FEE -- AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS IMPLEMENTED FOR THE
FIRST TIME, WAS PHASED IN OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
WE VERY SPECIFICALLY PREPARED A TREATMENT LEVEL COST.
THIS IS FOR WATER SUPPLY AND TREATMENT, THAT SUPPLIED
SYSTEMWIDE, CITYWIDE SYSTEMWIDE.
AT THE TIME, AND EVEN TODAY, THE CITY DOES ALREADY HAVE TWO
EXISTING CIAC SERVICE AREAS ALREADY COLLECTING A
TRANSMISSION FEE.
THAT RELATES TO THE DOWNTOWN SOUTH TAMPA AND THE NORTHEAST
AREA SUBAREA.

THOSE CIAC SERVICE LOCATIONS.
AS IT COMES TO OUR TRANSMISSION CAPACITY FEE, WE BASICALLY
CALCULATED A CHARGE FOR ALL THE REMAINING SERVICE AREAS OF
THE CITY, THE NON-CIAC LOCATIONS.
THE REASON FOR THE CAPACITY FEES IS TO ENSURE THAT NEW
DEVELOPMENT THAT CREATE DEMANDS UPON THE SYSTEM PAY THEIR
PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE COSTS.
AS WE TALK ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY, AGAIN, I
DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT DOES INCLUDE REDEVELOPMENT
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
A PROPERTY OWNER ALWAYS GETS CREDIT FOR THE AMOUNT OF
CAPACITY THAT THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY RESERVED.
SO IF IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND IT BECOMES A NEW
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, THERE'S TYPICALLY NOT A NEW CHARGE
THAT'S DUE.
THEY GOT CREDIT FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT.
BUT IF WE TURN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME INTO A TRIPLEX OR A QUAD
WHERE OBVIOUSLY THERE IS AN INCREASED DEMAND ON THE SYSTEM,
AN INCREMENTAL CHARGE MAY HAVE TO BE COLLECTED.
AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE UTILITY SYSTEM WORKS
THROUGH WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS.
THE FEES ARE USED TO PAY FOR GROWTH-RELATED FACILITIES AND
MAJOR EQUIPMENT.
WHEN THESE PROGRAMS ARE PUT IN PLACE, THEY HELP AVOID HAVING
GROWTH-RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AFFECT EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT HURTS TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT MR. PERRY
SAID A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS EXEMPTED
QUALIFIED AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS FROM PAYING THESE
CHARGES.
LATER ON IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU
A REGIONAL COMPARISON OF OTHER TYPES OF CAPACITY FEES
RELATED TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THE
CHARGES DIFFER.
I WOULD SUGGEST PROBABLY THE MAIN DIFFERENCE THE CHARGES
DIFFER IS THE FREQUENCY AND TIMELINESS OF HOW LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TEND TO UPDATE THESE CHARGES.
AGAIN, UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU ELECTED TO ADOPT AN
ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY REQUIRES AN UPDATE EVERY FIVE YEARS.
NOT ALL CITY GOVERNMENTS DO THAT.
CERTAINLY, SOURCES OF SUPPLY, TYPE OF TREATMENT THAT
INFLUENCES THE TYPES OF COSTS THAT YOUR UTILITY SYSTEM
INVESTS IN, OF ACCESS AND AVAILABILITY OF GRANTS, BOTH
HISTORICAL AS WELL AS FUTURE GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO
FUND THESE FACILITIES.
THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THE COMMUNITY IS
ACTIVELY EXPANDING OR IF IT'S FAIRLY MATURE AND BUILT OUT.
AND THEN CERTAINLY THE AGE AND THE SIZE AND THE DENSITY OF A
UTILITY SYSTEM HEAVILY AFFECTS THE COST STRUCTURE OF THESE

TYPES OF CHARGES.
AS IT RELATES TO OUR IMPACT FEE CRITERIA, FIRST AND
FOREMOST, OUR TEAM IS LOOKING TO BE BOTH FAIR AND EQUITABLE.
WE ACCOMPLISH THIS BY ESTABLISHING A LINK BETWEEN THE COST
OF CAPACITY AND THE AMOUNT OF DEMAND THAT EACH NEW CUSTOMER
PLACES ON THE UTILITY SYSTEM.
THE DEMANDS ARE MEASURED BASED ON ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE
STANDARDS THAT THE CITY PUTS IN PLACE.
THIS IS THE GALLONS PER DAY PER CAPITA OR GALLONS PER DAY
PER UNIT, IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT IN THAT CAPACITY.
THE FEES CANNOT BE USED TO FUND CAPITAL DEFICIENCIES WITHIN
THE SYSTEM.
SO WE CAN'T USE IT TO FUND RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT
IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
AND WE CERTAINLY CANNOT USE THESE REVENUE SOURCES TO FUND
OPERATING EXPENSES.
THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN SEPARATE ACCOUNTABILITY AND
SETS THESE MONIES ASIDE IN RESTRICTED ACCOUNTS.
THEY ARE A PLEDGED REVENUE, I'LL POINT OUT, AND THEY DO
SUPPORT THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM IN THE
REPAYMENT OF THE CITY'S BONDS.
LASTLY, THESE FEES ARE TYPICALLY ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE.
IN OUR COST METHODOLOGY AND FEE STRUCTURE, THESE TYPES OF
CHARGES RECOVER WHAT I'D LIKE TO REFER TO AS THE SYSTEM
COST.

THIS WAS THE WATER SUPPLY TREATMENT LEVEL, WASTEWATER
TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL AND BACKBONE TRANSMISSION.
THESE ARE THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY FUNDS WHERE
ALL CUSTOMERS GENERALLY BENEFIT, BOTH EXISTING AND FUTURE.
SOME OF THE TYPES OF COSTS THAT ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE FEE
RELATE TO LOCAL AND ON-SITE WATER DISTRIBUTION AND
COLLECTION FACILITIES.
IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT WHEN A NEW
DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO A COMMUNITY THAT OFTENTIMES THOSE
LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ARE CONSTRUCTED AND PAID FOR BY
THE DEVELOPER TO SERVE THE DEVELOPER'S PROJECT SOLELY.
SO AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, THOSE COSTS ARE EXCLUDED FROM OUR
FEE BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING ON THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES.
IN ADDITION, WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR GRANT-FUNDED PROJECTS,
AND WE ALSO EXCLUDE MINOR EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES.
SO WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED FEES?
WE INCLUDE THE SYSTEM LEVEL COSTS OF EXISTING ASSETS THAT
HAVE AVAILABLE CAPACITY TO SERVE NEW GROWTH PLUS ANY PLANNED
CAPACITY ADDITIONS.
AS IT RELATES TO YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM, THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT IS HEAVILY FOCUSED ON CAPITAL
RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT, SPECIFICALLY TO FUND THE PIPES
PROGRAM THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
SO WITHIN THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM, THAT'S LARGELY CAPITAL
MAINTENANCE AND THOSE COSTS WERE EXCLUDED FROM OUR PROPOSED

FEES.
AS WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, FOR
THE WATER SYSTEM, THERE WAS A PORTION OF THE COSTS THAT WERE
IDENTIFIED TO BE SYSTEM-LEVEL UPGRADES AS WELL AS EXPANSION.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A PORTION OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE
INCLUDED IN OUR FEE CALCULATIONS.
THE FEE FORMULA IS QUITE SIMPLE.
THERE'S REALLY THREE COMPONENTS.
CAPITAL COSTS IN DOLLARS.
THE CAPACITY AT THE RELATED FACILITIES.
AGAIN, GALLONS PER DAY OF CAPACITY.
AND THEN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
GALLONS PER DAY PER CAPITA.
UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME, THE CITY HAS INVESTED
APPROXIMATELY 3 BILLION, THAT'S BILLION WITH A "B," IN GROSS
WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES.
OF WHICH ALMOST 60% REACH THAT SYSTEM LEVEL COST THAT ARE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TREATMENT AND TRANSMISSION LEVEL
CAPACITY.
IN CALCULATING OUR PROPOSED FEES, WE DID REDUCE THE COST BY
MORE THAN $170 MILLION IN HISTORICAL GRANTS THAT WERE
RECEIVED BY THE CITY.
IN TALKING WITH MR. BAIRD, HE INFORMED US THAT MOST OF THOSE
GRANTS WERE RECEIVED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S FOURTH WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT

PROGRAM.
IN CALCULATING THE CITY'S TRANSMISSION IMPACT FEE, AS YOU
MAY RECALL, WE'VE GOT THREE BENEFIT ZONES.
WE'VE GOT THE TWO EXISTING CIAC SERVICE AREAS, I'LL POINT
OUT THAT THOSE TRANSMISSION CHARGES WITHIN THE CIAC SERVICE
LOCATIONS ARE NOT PROPOSED TO CHANGE.
THIRDLY, OUR THIRD BENEFIT ZONE ARE THE REMAINING SERVICE
AREAS WITHIN THE CITY, THE NON-CIAC LOCATIONS.
AGAIN, SPECIFICALLY WE CALCULATED A CAPACITY FEE RELATED TO
THOSE COSTS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULES.
AS IT RELATES TO THE UTILITY SYSTEM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROGRAM, TOTAL ESTIMATES ARE 1.8, AGAIN, BILLION DOLLARS OF
PROPOSED FUNDING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AGAIN, FOR THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM, IT'S LARGELY CAPITAL
MAINTENANCE AND THOSE COSTS ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE FEES.
AND THEN IN IDENTIFYING THE WATER SYSTEM PROJECTS AND
WORKING WITH THE CITY'S ENGINEERS, WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE
JUST UNDER $80 MILLION OF WATER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE
CALCULATED FEE STRUCTURE.
SO, MR. CHAIR, ON THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES, THIS IS WHERE WE
GET INTO OUR FEE COMPONENT.
AS IT RELATES TO THE WATER SYSTEM, AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR
BENEFIT AREAS.
SO WE ADDRESS THE COSTS IN EACH ONE OF THE VARIOUS FEE

COMPONENTS, BOTH TREATMENT AND TRANSMISSION RELATED.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON SLIDE TEN.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE FLORIDA
LEGISLATURE HAS PLACED LIMITATIONS ON THE WAY AND THE MANNER
IN WHICH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CAN UPDATE AND INCREASE CERTAIN
TYPES OF IMPACT FEES.
IN TALKING WITH CITY STAFF, WE'VE ELECTED TO APPLY THOSE
RESTRICTIONS HERE TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES IS A
MAXIMUM CHARGE THAT'S ALLOWED BY FLORIDA STATUTE AS IT
RELATES TO THESE TYPES OF FEES AND A REQUIRED FOUR-YEAR
PHASE-IN SCHEDULE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
AS IT RELATES TO THE WATER SYSTEM AT THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE,
WE HAVE THE SYSTEMWIDE TREATMENT COSTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS APPLIED SERVICE AREA WIDE.
WE HAVE A CURRENT FEE OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
$1,020 PER EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF THAT AS SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, THAT
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
BUT THESE CHARGES ALSO APPLY TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
CALCULATED COST WITH $1,837.
THE STATUTORY MAXIMUM WOULD BE LIMITED IN THAT RIGHT HAND
COLUMN TO $1,530.
AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, THERE IS A FOUR-YEAR

REQUIRED PHASE-IN REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD NOT START UNTIL
MARCH 1 OF 2027.
AGAIN, A STRATEGY HERE WHERE CITY STAFF WANTS TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE DEVELOPERS ADEQUATE NOTICE.
IN THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, WE'VE GOT THE TRANSMISSION
SYSTEM COSTS BY BENEFIT AREA.
AGAIN, THE FIRST TWO AREAS ARE THE CIAC SERVICE LOCATIONS,
WHICH REALLY COMPRISE ABOUT 60% OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN
THE CITY SERVICE AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CIAC CHARGES ARE NOT CHANGING WHILE THE
LAST LINE OF THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE ARE THE OTHER SERVICE
LOCATIONS, THE NON-CIAC AREAS, AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A
RECOMMENDED CHARGE OF $985, ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE PHASED IN
OVER A FOUR-YEAR IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE AS SHOWN HERE ON
SLIDE 11.
AGAIN, VERY SIMPLY, SLIDE 11, WHAT WE TRIED TO PROVIDE HERE
ARE THE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF THE FEE AT THE TOP AND
MIDDLE OF THE SLIDE.
AND THEN BOLDED AS BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE, WE TRIED TO ADD UP
THE FEES.
THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW THE CHARGES ARE COLLECTED.
AGAIN, EXPRESSED ON A PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT BASIS.
OUR NEXT SLIDE MOVES US INTO THE WASTEWATER CALCULATION.
THESE CHARGES ARE COLLECTED AS A SINGLE FEE ON A SYSTEMWIDE
BASIS.

SO, THEREFORE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FEE COMPONENTS
COLLECTIVELY.
WE HAVE A CURRENT CHARGE OF $1,237 PER EQUIVALENT UNIT.
CALCULATED COST OF 1,847.
AND BECAUSE THE CALCULATED COST IS JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN
THE MAXIMUM CHARGE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
CONSIDER APPROVING OUR CALCULATED FEE.
AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE WATER SYSTEM, WE HAVE A FOUR-YEAR
PHASE-IN REQUIREMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OUTLINED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN ON
SLIDE 13.
TO PROVIDE A 30,000-FOOT VIEW OF OUR PROPOSED
RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'VE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE THAT INFORMATION
FOR YOU ON SLIDE 14.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT THE PROPOSED FEES AT THE
BOTTOM OF THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE ARE MORE THAN FOUR YEARS
INTO THE FUTURE.
SO THESE WOULD BE THE CALCULATED FEES THAT WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED ON OR AFTER MARCH 1st OF 2030, FISCAL YEAR
'30.
WE DID ATTEMPT -- I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BUSY AND PROBABLY A
LITTLE BIT SMALL ON THIS PARTICULAR SCREEN.
WE TRIED TO PROVIDE A REGIONAL COMPARISON AS IT RELATES TO
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HOW YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY
FEES COMPARE TO NEIGHBORING UTILITIES.

THE CHART IS A LITTLE BIT BUSY.
AGAIN, WE HAVE THOSE THREE BENEFIT SERVICE AREAS.
YOU CAN SEE TODAY THAT ON AVERAGE, MOST OF YOUR CURRENT
CHARGES ARE EITHER AT THE AVERAGE OF YOUR NEIGHBORING
UTILITIES OR SLIGHTLY UNDER.
CERTAINLY OVER THIS FOUR-YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD, AGAIN,
THAT'S WHY THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY FAIRLY PRESENTED HERE,
THESE ARE THE PROPOSED CHARGES FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
MR. CHAIR, I DO RECALL THAT IN EARLIER BRIEFINGS, YOU HAD A
FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CITY OF ORLANDO.
THE CITY OF FORT MYERS AND THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE.
AGAIN, AS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS PARTICULAR CHART, THE SURVEY
AVERAGE IS ROUGHLY $5,000 PER EQUIVALENT CONNECTION.
I CAN TELL YOU, MR. CHAIR, THAT CITY OF ORLANDO IS
COLLECTING A CHARGE OF APPROXIMATELY 4900.
SO JUST SLIGHTLY LESS THAN AVERAGE.
CITY OF FORT MYERS IS CALCULATING A CHARGE OF 6700, ROUGHLY,
PER UNIT, SO THEY ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE AVERAGE.
THE CITY OF FT. LAUDERDALE I BELIEVE IS CALCULATING THE
CHARGE JUST UNDER $4,000 PER EQUIVALENT UNIT.
BUT I COULD NOT IDENTIFY WHEN THE MOST RECENT STUDY WAS
CONCLUDED.
IN SUMMARIZING OUR CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WE FIND
THAT THE EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES ARE NOT
ADEQUATE TO RECOVER THE EXISTING AND PLANNED INVESTMENTS.

IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE CAPACITY TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF
NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER
ADOPTING OUR PROPOSED FEES.
THEY WOULD BE SET TO NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM STATUTORY
REQUIREMENT AND WOULD BE PHASED IN OVER A FOUR-YEAR
IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD.
IT'S BEEN THE ADVICE OF CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE AN EXTENDED
NOTICING PERIOD BEFORE THE PROPOSED FEES WOULD BE
IMPLEMENTED.
AND IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THOSE CHARGES WOULD
BECOME EFFECTIVE BEGINNING ON AND AFTER MARCH 1st OF 2027.
AGAIN, A FOUR-YEAR IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. BAIRD
TO COME.
AND I WILL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS AND ANY COMMENTS THAT THE
COUNCIL MAY HAVE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. BAIRD.
9:53:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GOOD PRESENTATION.
MR. BAIRD.
9:53:52AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU, MURRAY.
BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN SUMMARY, THIS IS DEVELOPMENT PAYING ITS OWN WAY FOR
TREATMENT AND TRANSMISSION FACILITIES AND THE CAPACITY
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FACILITIES.

AS MR. HAMILTON TALKED ABOUT, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION
AFTER FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO PHASE THIS
IN OVER FOUR YEARS AND BEGINNING MARCH 1st OF 2027.
SO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WAS THE STUDY
WAS VERY WELL DONE, VERY THOROUGH, AND WE APPRECIATE THE
TIME THAT YOU'RE GIVING US TO INCLUDE THESE IN OUR COSTS.
WITH THAT, I'LL PAUSE AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:54:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE DO.
THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR MIKE WAS ON BUT I THINK THAT WAS A
LEFTOVER.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:54:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO SLIDE 10.
9:55:06AM >> IF WE COULD HAVE THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
YOU SAID SLIDE TEN.
9:55:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE.
9:55:15AM >> YES, MA'AM.
9:55:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
THIS.
THIS IS A GREAT STUDY.
I'M VERY GLAD THAT THE COUNCIL IN 2020 SET THIS TO BE EVERY
FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WE NEED TO DO
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO HANDLE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT.

I WANT EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THAT FIRST LINE WHERE THE
CALCULATED COST IS 1800 AND THE MAX WE'RE GOING TO GET IS
1500.
WHICH BASICALLY MEANS, WHO IS GOING TO PAY THAT EXTRA
OVERAGE?
9:56:03AM >> COUNCILWOMAN, AGAIN, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HERE IN
RECENT YEARS, WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS, PUT IN PLACE
THESE MAXIMUMS AS IT RELATES TO IMPLEMENTATION OF IMPACT
FEES.
CAPACITIES FALL IN LINE WITH THAT SCOPE.
I CAN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF INSIGHT TO IT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT ULTIMATELY TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE
TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE APPROVED, IT WOULD FALL ON TO THE
RATEPAYERS.
THAT'S A FACT.
9:56:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR AND THAT'S WHAT
I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.
9:56:42AM >> YES, MA'AM.
9:56:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE DO THIS IN
FIVE MORE YEARS' TIME, THE CHANCES OF THESE COSTS GOING UP
WILL BE THERE.
AND AS WE GO, WE WILL BE FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND AND THE
RATEPAYERS WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE, WHO ALREADY PUT MONEY INTO
THIS, WILL BE FORCED TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.
AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS EVERY FIVE

YEARS.
AND I THINK IT'S FAIR AND I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY
APPRECIATES WHEN IT'S EVERY FIVE YEARS SO THAT WE'RE NOT
PUTTING A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THEM ALL AT ONCE.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE FOUR-YEAR PHASE-IN.
I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT I AM CONCERNED.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF THE PUBLIC IS CONCERNED, THEY
REACH OUT TO BOTH THEIR HOUSE AND SENATE LEADERS AND LET
THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS HARMING OUR COMMUNITIES.
AGAIN, YOUR STUDY IS PHENOMENAL.
IT'S VERY CLEAR.
THE PRESENTATION WAS WONDERFUL.
I JUST WORRY ABOUT WHAT THIS DOES FOR US IN THE LONG RUN
BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO MAKE OUR RATES HAVE TO INCREASE FOR
THE AVERAGE RATEPAYER.
AND THAT IS MY CONCERN.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT
IS WHY WE CAN'T CHARGE THE 1800.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
I, AGAIN, REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT AND IN EVERY AREA WHERE WE
CAN PUT THESE FIVE-YEAR STUDIES, I THINK IT HELPS BOTH THE
RESIDENTS AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT IT ALSO
HIGHLIGHTS WHAT WE NEED OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO DO FOR

US.
THANK YOU.
9:58:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH THAT.
PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS.
AS BRAD SAID, THE PUBLIC HAS TOLD US LOUD AND CLEAR THAT
THEY WANT DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR ITSELF, IF NEW BUILDINGS OR
HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT, THEY WANT THE COST OF THAT TO
BE SHARED.
YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT.
I WONDER, THOUGH, CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS WILL
SAVE IN TERMS OF THE RATEPAYER FEE?
IN YOUR PROJECTIONS -- JUST TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THE BENEFIT
TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THE REGULAR RATE-PAYING PUBLIC.
IF WE DON'T IMPLEMENT THIS, HOW MUCH MORE ARE THEY GOING TO
HAVE TO PAY IN THEIR RATE?
AND HOW MUCH WILL THIS SAVE THE AVERAGE PERSON?
9:59:16AM >> YES, COUNCILMAN.
IF THE PROPOSED FEES ARE IMPLEMENTED, BY YEAR FOUR, THEY
WOULD GENERATE ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER
SYSTEM, WHICH IN PART WOULD GO TO HELP SUPPORT THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND TO FUND THE EXISTING BONDS THAT HAVE
ALREADY BEEN ISSUED.
AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IN FUTURE YEARS WE'LL HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO ISSUE SOME ADDITIONAL BONDS BASED ON WHAT WE'VE

IDENTIFIED.
9:59:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TALKING ABOUT YEAR FOUR, MILLION AND A
HALF, IF WE DID NOT HAVE THIS, HOW MUCH WOULD WE HAVE TO
INCREASE --
9:59:52AM >> IN A PRACTICAL SENSE, IT'S VERY IMMATERIAL FOR YOUR
SYSTEM.
YOUR ANNUAL REVENUES ARE OVER $300 MILLION A YEAR.
THIS IS MORE OF FORM OVER SUBSTANCE AS IT RELATES TO YOUR
UTILITY SYSTEM.
10:00:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF WE WERE JUST TRYING TO HIT THE NUMBERS
EXACTLY, HOW MANY MORE DOLLARS A MONTH WOULD WE HAVE TO
RAISE?
10:00:11AM >> IT WOULD BE VERY NEGLIGIBLE.
10:00:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAYBE A DOLLAR A MONTH?
10:00:14AM >> MAYBE.
PROBABLY LESS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE A VERY ROBUST WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
TRIPLE A RATING, STRONG FISCAL POSITION.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT POSITION HANGS ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S
DECISION AS IT RELATES TO THESE FEES.
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF PRACTICE AND FORM TO BE ABLE
TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR UTILITY CUSTOMERS THAT WE ARE HOLDING
NEW DEVELOPMENT ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY ARE PAYING THEIR
PROPORTIONATE SHARE.
I DON'T WANT TO OVERSTATE THE EQUATION THAT IF WE DON'T DO

SOMETHING, THERE IS AN UNEXPECTED RATE CONSEQUENCE.
10:00:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
10:00:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:00:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK YOU TO
YOU AND YOUR COMPANY RAFTELIS.
I'VE BEEN IN WATER -- I'M NOT A MAYOR, BUT APPOINTED ME TO
TAMPA BAY WATER ALONG WITH BRAD BAIRD AND OTHERS.
YOUR RATE IS CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE NOT OVERBEARING.
HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, I REMEMBER WHEN OUR BUDGET, JUST
TO REPAIR PIPES UNDERGROUND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS 30 TO
35 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
PIPE BREAK TODAY, SAME PIPE FIX IT, TWO DAYS LATER, BREAKS
AGAIN SAME PIPE.
THAT'S WHEN THE PIPES PROGRAM STARTED AT $2 A MONTH ON
WASTEWATER AND WATER.
YOU SEE THAT ON YOUR BILLING.
THEY SAY IT IS A WATER BILL.
NO, IT IS A BILL OF MANY OTHER THINGS.
BUT WATER IS INCLUDED IN IT.
$2 AND $2.
NOW EVERY YEAR OR SO WE RAISE IT BY A DOLLAR.
IF I REMEMBER NOW, IT IS AT $8 AND $8 BECAUSE THE PIPES
PROGRAM CONTINUES TO GO FOR 22 YEARS WHEN IT STARTED FROM
THEN TO NOW.

HOWEVER, WE ARE LOOKING AT BECAUSE OF THE COST INSTALLATION
GOING IN, PIPES PROGRAM IS NOT BONDED.
PAYING ON A CASH BASIS.
THAT PROGRAM SOONER OR LATER IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF MONEY
BECAUSE THE COST AND COLLECTION ARE NOT MEETING UP TO EACH
OTHER.
SOONER OR LATER AN ADJUSTMENT MADE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
BONDING, MAYBE NOT.
MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE TO GO AWAY FROM THE BONDING THING AND
SAVE A LITTLE MONEY.
HOWEVER, DO YOU REALLY SAVE MONEY?
IF YOU BOND SOMETHING FOR 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
YOUR PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO BE AND WHAT YOUR INCOME IS.
WHEN YOU DO IT OUR WAY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR MONEY COLLECTION
IS BUT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PAYMENT IS BECAUSE COST
INSTALLATION.
IF YOU DO THAT, WHAT IS THE COST OF MATERIAL IN YEAR ONE
VERSUS YEAR 30 OR 32, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
THAT'S NEVER INCLUDED IN THE COST, WHICH SHOULD BE.
I'M SURE YOU DO THAT MATHEMATICALLY AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE
REAL COST IS AT THE END.
BONDING, YES, YOU PAY MORE, BUT YOU ALSO GET QUICKER AND
BETTER RESULTS BECAUSE IT GOES PROJECT A TO PROJECT B ON A
STRAIGHT LINE, NOT UP AND DOWN.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THIS IS COMING EVERY FIVE YEARS AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE
YOUR COMPANY.
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, FROM ALL THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HEARD OF
DIFFERENT COMPANIES, YOUR COMPANY, NEVER HEARD SOMETHING
NEGATIVE.
10:03:10AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:03:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU AGAIN.
I THINK THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING REPORT.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER REPORTS I'VE SEEN.
VERY WELL DONE, COMPREHENSIVE AND I APPRECIATE THE
INFORMATION.
10:03:23AM >> GENTLE REMINDER THAT ITEM 23 IS FIRST READING FOR THIS.
WE WILL COME BACK AND BE PRESENT FOR THAT.
10:03:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY.
10:03:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN
SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
HERE TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM IN PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA OF THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE
OFFICIAL ACTION IS TAKEN.
NOW, YOU WILL HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT GENERAL

PUBLIC COMMENT BY FILLING OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACING IT
IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.
PLEASE NOTE PER CITY COUNCIL RULES PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO
THOSE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS FIRST.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT ITEMS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING --
AND I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
LET'S SEE WHAT NUMBERS THOSE ARE.
10:04:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WITH A CARD ON THAT
YET.
10:04:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SET FOR
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA, THOSE ITEMS WILL BE CALLED UP
INDIVIDUALLY WHEN WE APPROACH ON THE AGENDA --
10:04:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
19 THROUGH 21.
10:04:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
19 THROUGH 21.
IF YOU ARE HERE ON ITEMS 19 THROUGH 21, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
FILL OUT A CARD BUT THERE IS A SIGN-IN SHEET OUTSIDE.
PLEASE PLACE YOUR NAME AND THE ITEM NUMBER FOR THE PUBLIC
HEARING ON THE AGENDA.
NOW, SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED,
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING

VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE,
RATHER THAN TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING, AS
I SAID, FILL OUT -- EXCUSE ME, SIGN YOUR NAME ON THE SIGN-IN
SHEET.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE
DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
10:06:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
WE HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT AGENDA TODAY.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET US OUT BY LUNCH, WHICH MAY BE A
LITTLE DELAYED LUNCH.
I'LL TRY TO DO THAT.

IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
ABBREVIATE OUR COMMENTS AND REALLY PUSH THROUGH AND DON'T
WASTE A LOT OF TIME.
THOSE OF YOU HERE TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU GET YOUR
FULL THREE MINUTES BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE YOUR FULL THREE
MINUTES.
IF YOU AGREE WITH SOMETHING SOMEBODY SAID, YOU CAN SAY, HEY,
I AGREE WITH WHAT SUCH AND SUCH SAID.
WE HAVE TWO EARS.
TWO ONLINE SPEAKERS.
WE'LL HIT THEM LAST THIS WEEK.
WE'LL MOVE TO ON YOU IN-PERSON FOLKS.
ZION CEMETERY, NUMBER 16, JERALDINE WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY
REVA IMAN.
JERALDINE, ARE YOU HERE?
10:07:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
AS A MEMBER OF THE ZION CEMETERY --
10:07:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:07:21AM >> MY NAME IS JERALDINE, WITH A J, WILLIAMS.
MEMBER OF THE ZION CEMETERY MAINTENANCE AND PRESERVATION
BOARD.
AS A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD I AM BEFORE YOU TO SAY THANK YOU
ON BEHALF OF MY GREAT, GREAT GRANDMOTHER WHOSE REMAINS WERE
INTERRED AT ZION CEMETERY IN 1912.
SHE AND APPROXIMATELY ANOTHER 799 SOULS ARE THERE.

WE ARE PLEASED THAT ACTION IS BEING TAKEN SO WE CAN LOOK
FORWARD IN THEIR BEHALF TO THEIR RESTING IN PEACE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD.
REVA.
FOLLOWED BY DARYL HYCH.
10:08:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS REVA IMAN.
AS A FORMER RESIDENT OF ROBLES PARK VILLAGE AS WELL AS A
CITIZEN OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, I'M ALSO THE VICE-CHAIR OF
THE BOARD SPOKE ABOUT.
I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.
THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME AND EFFORT
AT THIS POINT FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
AND WHAT THE FUTURE MAY BE.
AS THE ADVICE CHAIR, I'M ALSO ASKING, WE NEED $8 MILLION TO
COMPLETE ZION CEMETERY.
NOT JUST THE CEMETERY AS A MEMORIAL.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL
FOR.
THIS CITY OF TAMPA HOLDS A GREAT DEAL THAT OTHER GOING ON
HERE AND SOMETHING THAT TAMPA IS GREAT.
WE ALSO PLAN TO PUT A GENEALOGY CENTER THERE.
THOSE WHO VISIT THE CITY OF TAMPA, THOSE IN THE CITY OF

TAMPA AND SURROUNDING HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND LOOK
UP YOUR FAMILY, WHO YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN.
IT'S NOT JUST A MEMORIAL.
IT'S EDUCATIONAL AND IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO
KNOW THEIR BACKGROUND AND FAMILY HISTORY.
SO AS THE VICE-CHAIR, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING GREAT
THINGS, AND GREAT THINGS WILL COME.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE WITH YOU, $8 MILLION WILL HELP US
COMPLETE WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT JUST
FOR ZION, BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING.
AND YOU WILL BE HISTORY IN THE MAKING BECAUSE ALL THESE
OTHER CITIES, FINDING THESE CEMETERIES BUILT.
WE ARE THE LEADING CITY THAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT.
WE ARE THE LEADING CITY, AND WE TAKE LEAD ON GREAT MANY
THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLETE THAT BY HELPING US COMPLETE WHAT WE
ARE TRYING TO DO AT ZION FOR $8 MILLION TO COMPLETE IT.
IT'S NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S FOR ANYONE HAVE STAKE, ANY FAMILY OUT THERE, THE
HISTORY, THAT THEY CAN COME TO THE GENEALOGY CENTER AND DO
THE RESEARCH.
THANK YOU.
10:10:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DARYL, FOLLOWED BY PAM CANNELLA.

10:10:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
DARYL HYCH.
ITEM NUMBER 22, THE VETERANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE BOARD, I AM
ASKING THAT THE CITY, THE TWO GUYS CONSIDER THE FACT THAT
THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS FULL OF
VETERANS.
THERE SHOULD REALLY BE NO REASON FOR THIS COMMITTEE NOT TO
BE SATURATED WITH VETERANS.
NEARLY 100% VETERANS.
MAY HAVE GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO MAY WANT TO
PARTICIPATE IN IT, BUT I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE THIS
BOARD WITH VETERANS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, AS I WAS DRIVING OVER HERE THIS
MORNING, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE TERM, MAKE AMERICA GREAT.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND SAID TO MYSELF, AMERICA IS GREAT.
AMERICA IS GREAT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE NEVER SERVED 28 YEARS
IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY IF I DIDN'T THINK AMERICA WAS
GREAT.
WE WOULDN'T ALSO HAVE SITTING ON THE DAISES THE YOUNGEST AND
ONE OF THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN PERSONNEL IN THE CITY
GOVERNMENT, MS. NAYA YOUNG IF AMERICA WASN'T GREAT.
WE ALSO WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THE ONLY BLACK AMERICAN PRESIDENT
BARACK OBAMA IF AMERICA WASN'T GREAT.
THE ONLY OTHER PERSONS AND ONLY PEOPLE WHO WOULD THINK
AMERICA IS NOT GREAT WOULD BE WEAK MEN AND WOMEN WHO BELIEVE

THAT THEY ARE LOSING THEIR FOOTING IN SOCIETY.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY SAY MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
BUT I'M REMINDED OF THE FACT THAT AMERICA IS GREAT.
AMERICA IS A PLACE THAT EVERYONE LOOK UPON AND SAY, I WANT
TO GET HERE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY CROSS THE BORDERS TO GO OVER TO ANY
OTHER COUNTRY AND RISK THEIR LIVES IF AMERICA WASN'T GREAT.
SO MY ONLY QUESTION AND CONCERN THAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT
WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE STATE LEGISLATURES AND
THINGS COMING DOWN, WHY HAVE NO ONE DECIDED TO CHALLENGE THE
SYSTEMS ON THE LOCAL DEI SITUATION?
WHY HAS NO ONE TOOK A LEGAL POSITION AND STOOD TEN TOES
DOWN, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING FOR THIS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
WHY HAVE NO ONE IN CITY GOVERNMENT OR IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM
SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO STAND IN THE GAP FOR
RESOLUTION NUMBER 568 BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THAT.
WHY HAVE NO ONE DECIDED TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO
LAY ALL ON THE LINE FOR THESE PURPOSES.
ONLY ANSWER I CAN COME UP WITH IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY
MONKEY.
IT'S NOT MY ZOO.
IT DOES NOT AFFECT ME.
IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE WAY I LIVE, WALK, BREATHE, TALK,
THINK, DO THINGS. IT DOES NOT AFFECT ME.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO PUT MYSELF

IN THE FIGHT.
BECAUSE EVERY DAY I WAKE UP AND I LOOK IN THE MIRROR, I SEE
AN AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK MAN STANDING TEN TOES DOWN
FIGHTING THESE SYSTEMS BY MYSELF.
WHERE IS THE LEGAL SYSTEMS AT?
WE SHOULD BE CHALLENGING ALL THESE THINGS INSTEAD OF SITTING
AND WATCHING.
10:13:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DARYL.
NO APPLAUSE.
NO CLICKING FINGERS EITHER.
PAM FOLLOWED BY DAVID.
FEELING BETTER?
YOU'RE WALKING BETTER.
10:14:07AM >> I FEEL BETTER.
I FEEL GOOD.
10:14:21AM >> I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
TELL ME AGAIN.
MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
TWO MONTHS TO HURRICANE SEASON.
TAMPA IS NOT PREPARED.
AGAIN, OUR EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM HAS BEEN NEGLECTED.
FOR NEW PROJECTS, EVENTS, AND BARRICADES, AND NO CONTRACTED
HELP FOR IN-HOUSE CREW TO CATCH UP.
AGAIN, THEY NEED FUNDING.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THE BUDGET MONEY FOR CONTRACTED

HELP, FOR THIS CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE.
THE CITY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE THIS TIME IF THERE IS
ANOTHER REPEAT OF 2024 FLOODING.
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SHOWN A WILLFUL DISREGARD FOR STATE
AND LOCAL MANDATED MAINTENANCE STANDARDS OF OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE.
THESE SAFETY OBLIGATIONS, WHEN IGNORED, PUT THE PUBLIC
SAFETY AT RISK.
I JUST WANT TO SHOW WHERE IT SAYS HERE WHERE WE HAVE
CONTRACTORS, BUT WE DON'T.
THE CITY OF TAMPA'S POST HAS A MISREPRESENTATION OF THE
TRUTH.
STORMWATER CLEANING IS NOT GETTING DONE.
THERE ARE NO CONTRACTORS TO CLEAN THE STORMWATER PIPES.
NO CONTRACTORS DOING CAVE-IN REPAIRS.
WHEN I ASK WHY, I'M TOLD NO FUNDING.
AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE TRASH TO BE REMOVED FROM THE
AMI HOSPITAL POND, THE ZOM POND AND THE SWANN POND.
THAT'S STILL THERE.
MOBILITY FLYERS IN OUR MOBILITY WEBSITE, CITY OF TAMPA.
HAS A SOLUTION.
THE SOLUTION IS ADD ADDITIONAL STREET SWEEPERS.
WITH ADDITIONAL STREET SWEEPERS, WE COULD INCREASES
PRODUCTIVITY.
WITH ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.

THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THE ANSWERS.
THIS DEPARTMENT AIMS TO ENHANCE AND SUPPORT A HIGH STANDARD
OF LIVING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA BY OFFERING A THOROUGH
RESPONSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL SAFE, EFFICIENT, COST-EFFECTIVE
STORMWATER MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I'M STILL WAITING.
TO ELEVATE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE BY IMPROVING THE OVERALL
PERFORMANCE OF STORMWATER MAINTENANCE.
OLD SAYING, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
I WANT TO SEE IT DONE.
TO ENHANCE THE CITY'S REPUTATION BY ESTABLISHING BENCHMARKS
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, DITCH, WE KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE.
THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHEN IT'S DONE.
WE DON'T NEED SURVEYS OR REPORTS.
HERE IS THE BEST PART.
TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL, WE WOULD NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING
THROUGH BUDGETING.
THAT IS THE BEST ONE.
OR HERE IT COMES, RAISING THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT FEE.
THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.
THANK YOU.
10:17:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DAVID, FOLLOWED BY CITRO.
10:17:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DAVID MOSS CORNELL.

I AM THE FOUNDER AND SECRETARY OF THE HIGHLAND PINES
COMMITTEE ON HOMELESSNESS.
LAST WEEK, YOU HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING OUR PRESIDENT IN
TRAINING, MR. RAYMOND JOHNSON.
HE IS MY VOICE WHEN WE SHALL GO TO THE NAACP OF WHICH I AM A
LIFETIME MEMBER FOR TEN YEARS.
HE WILL BE MY VOICE, AND HE IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN.
WE BELONG TO DISTRICT 5.
WE, THE PEOPLE, THE CITIZENS, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WE FOLLOW UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT
AND SO DO THE HOMELESS.
WE HAVE LAWS IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND LAWS IN
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SHOULD ANY HOMELESS PERSON VIOLATE THEM, THEY SHOULD BE
JUSTLY LOCKED UP OR DISPERSED.
THAT IS THE LAW OF THESE STATES OF FLORIDA AND PROBABLY THE
STATE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TOO, THE CONSTITUTION
IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT.
NOW, OUR COMMITTEE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHT FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY.
AT 7401 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33619, THERE
IS A MOBIL GAS STATION, A PUBLIC PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE
RIGHT OF IT.
NOW, THERE IS WHERE SOME HOMELESS GATHER.
NEXT TO IT IS A FIRE HYDRANT.

THE FIRE HYDRANT IS NOT CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF
THE MOBIL GAS STATION.
BUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THE HOMELESS TO GATHER
AS AN EXPERIMENT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
HENCE I ASK -- ONE MOMENT, PLEASE -- I ASK THAT THIS BE
BROUGHT BEFORE THE AGENDA.
I REQUEST THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAVE A PLACE IN HIGHLAND PINES
AS AN EXPERIMENT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, ON PUBLIC LAND AT
CAPACITY 15 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WHERE A SIGN IS POSTED UP
THERE.
SO IF THEY BREAK THE LAW THERE, THEY SHOULD LEAVE.
AND BE DISPERSED.
BUT IF THEY ARE THERE, ACCORDING TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF
FLORIDA AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THEN THEY HAVE
EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
THAT'S MY REQUEST TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THIS
HONORABLE COUNCIL.
HAVE A GOOD DAY AND HAPPY EASTER.
10:20:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DAVID.
CITRO, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
10:20:42AM >> JOSEPH CITRO, 33611 FOR THE RECORD.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY GRANDFATHER USED TO SAY TO ME, IF WE CAN SEND A MAN TO
THE MOON, HOW COME WE CAN'T FILL IN THE BLANK.
FAST-FORWARD 50 YEARS LATER, WE GOT ARTEMIS II CIRCLING OUR

PLANET.
IF WE CAN SEND A MAN AND A WOMAN TO THE MOON, HOW COME WE
CAN'T HAVE BETTER TRANSPORTATION?
I WAS AT THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION LAST NIGHT.
AND BEFORE YOU IS GOING TO COME A PROPOSAL FOR A TRI-COUNTY
MPO, METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
IT WAS LAID OUT IN FRONT OF US ON HOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE
STRUCTURED.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THE EPICENTER, THE HUB FOR
TRANSPORTATION, LAND, SEA, AND AIR.
THIS NEW TRI-COUNTY MPO IS GOING TO BRING IN MAJOR FUNDING
FOR THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
I URGE YOU TO CHECK OUT HOW THE STRUCTURE WILL BE SET UP SO
THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WILL GET ITS JUST REWARDS.
AND TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE
TAKEN CARE OF.
OUR POPULATION DOUBLES EVERY DAY FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M.
PEOPLE COME INTO OUR CITY FROM HILLSBOROUGH, EAST
HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS, PASCO, POLK, HERNANDO, SARASOTA.
FOR WORK, THE ARTS, SPORTING EVENTS, CRUISE LINES,
IMPORTING, EXPORTING.
AND WITH THE TRI-COUNTY MPO, THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO BUILD
MORE ROADS TO GET INTO OUR CITY.
THAT WILL HELP THEM GET INTO OUR CITY.

BUT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS
ARE GOING TO BE MORE AFFECTED BY THIS ROAD BUILDING THAN
HELPING THE PEOPLE GETTING INTO OUR CITY.
LET'S FAST-FORWARD TO WEST TAMPA.
I WAS AT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING WHERE THEY WERE
EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW
STADIUM.
THE RAYS WANT IT.
THE GOVERNOR WANTS IT.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WANT IT, AND WE STILL HAVE
A PERSON ON THIS COUNCIL THAT'S SAYING IT'S A DONE DEAL.
THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO START NOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ON
TRANSPORTATION IN AND AROUND DALE MABRY AND TAMPA BAY
BOULEVARD.
AND THE FIRST THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WOULD CALL ON WOULD
BE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THE HIGHWAY PATROL, JUST TO SEE HOW WE
CAN MOVE CARS IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA.
HOPEFULLY YOU THREE THAT ARE ON THE TPO WILL RECOMMEND RAIL.
THANK YOU.
10:23:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ASHLEY MORROW.
FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:23:56AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I WILL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.

IN THE 1870s, AS TAMPA WAS STILL DEVELOPING, BLACK
FAMILIES WERE BUILDING LIVES ON THE EDGES OF TOWN.
THEY WERE HOMESTEADING LAND, FORMING COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE ORGANIZING.
TAMPA EVEN HAD A BLACK MILITIA AS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU
BEFORE.
BUT OUTSIDE OF TAMPA, THAT SAME LEVEL OF STABILITY DID NOT
ALWAYS EXIST.
1877, JUST NORTH OF HERE, HERNANDO COUNTY, A BLACK MAN BY
THE NAME OF DAVE JAMES MARRIED A WHITE WOMAN, MS. DAY.
AND THAT ONE ACT OF MARRIAGE SET OFF AN ENTIRE CHANGE OF
EVENTS.
THE NEWSPAPER PICKED IT UP.
DURING THIS TIME, NEWSPAPERS HAD POWER.
THEY WERE READ COVER TO COVER AND THEY DIDN'T JUST INFORM,
THEY SIGNALED.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
NOW, PAY ATTENTION TO THE NAMES ON THE SCREEN, BECAUSE
THEY'LL SEE THEM AGAIN.
REMEMBER THOSE NAMES.
BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE NEWSPAPER, THESE MEN WENT TO DAVE
JAMES' HOME AND THEY WERE FIRED UPON.
A SHOOT-OUT FOLLOWED.
SEVERAL OF THE MEN SAXON, RHODES, McINTOSH, WERE WOUNDED.
AND THEN WERE TOLD THAT THE VERY NEXT DAY, DAVE JAMES

CONTACTED THE JUDGE, WHO WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WENT TO
THE HOME, HE CONTACTED THEM AND ASKED THEM TO COME TO THE
HOUSE SO HE COULD APOLOGIZE FOR FIRING ON THEM FIRST.
THIS IS WHAT THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED.
NOW, WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?
OR IS THAT VERSION OF THE STORY THAT MADE IT TO THE PRINT
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE STORY THAT THEY NEEDED AS A MOB IN
APPROACHING THIS MAN'S HOME TO PROTECT THIS WHITE WOMAN?
BUT THE STORY DOESN'T END THERE BECAUSE A YOUNG BLACK WOMAN
NAMED MARY JAMES, THE REPORT BY MARY R. JAMES -- SORRY, MARY
R. TANNER, SHE COMES TO TAMPA AND WRITES AN AFFIDAVIT.
AND ON THE AFFIDAVIT, SHE EXPLAINS THAT SHE WAS ACTUALLY
WITH THIS MAN NAMED ARTHUR ST. CLAIR.
AND WHY ARTHUR ST. CLAIR IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE HE IS THE ONE
THAT MARRIED THE BLACK MAN TO THE WHITE WOMAN.
AND THEY END UP ESCORTING THE WHITE MAN -- SORRY, THE BLACK
MAN AND THE WHITE WOMAN OUT OF BROOKSVILLE, BUT SOMEBODY HAD
TO PAY BECAUSE F.E. SAXON WAS WALTER SAXON'S BROTHER.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHO THE SAXON FAMILY WAS, STARTERS OF THE KU
KLUX KLAN IN CENTRAL FLORIDA SO SOMEBODY HAD TO PAY.
NEXT WEEK, I'LL TALK ABOUT MARY R. TANNER'S STORY WHEN SHE
CAME TO TAMPA AND THEN TO KEY WEST AND REPORTED ON THE
INCIDENTS.
THANK YOU.
10:26:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.

WE ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR PRESENTATION.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY POOLE.
10:27:11AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU LAST WEEK, SIDEWALKS CAME UP.
THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE SO THAT IF
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS NEARBY, IT'S NOT AN EXEMPTION.
I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY,
PARTICULARLY IN RELATIONSHIP TO CULBREATH BAYOU.
2020, SIDEWALK STOMPERS AND WALK BIKE TAMPA PRESENTED A
WONDERFUL PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND WANTED THE CODE CHANGED TO ELIMINATE THE LOOPHOLE OF IF
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
THEY WANTED TO DELETE IT.
THEY SAID BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FULL CITY BLOCKS WITH NO
SIDEWALKS, EVEN THOUGH EVERY RESIDENCE HAS BEEN REBUILT.
SO IN 2021, THEY DID AMEND THE SIDEWALK CODE, BUT THE STAFF
SAID WE CAN'T ELIMINATE THAT LOOPHOLE.
WE NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THE RARE OCCASIONS, FOR
NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE CULBREATH BAYOU, QUITE FRANKLY.
BUT THEY ASSURED US THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE USED VERY, VERY
RARELY, AND THAT IT WOULD NOT BE USED WITHIN A HALF MILE, NO
EXEMPTIONS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF SCHOOLS, SOMETHING STATED
TO YOU ALL.
THEY ALSO PUT IN THERE AS A CAVEAT, NO -- IF THERE'S NO

ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
WELL, THERE'S NO OFFICIAL LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF NO
ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
WHICH GIVES THE CITY THE LEEWAY TO INTERPRET IT VERY, VERY
LIBERALLY.
YOU CAN INTERPRET THAT ACCORDING TO YOUR GOAL.
IS YOUR GOAL MORE SIDEWALKS OR IS YOUR GOAL LESS SIDEWALKS?
WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE ACTIVE PERMITS IN THE CITY.
IF YOU WANT MORE SIDEWALKS, YOU WOULD SAY THERE'S NOWHERE IN
THE CITY WHERE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY.
SO NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THAT LOOPHOLE.
IF YOUR GOAL IS NO MORE -- IF YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE MORE
SIDEWALKS.
SO IT WAS QUITE THE SURPRISE TO MYSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE WHEN
WE FOUND OUT THAT THE CITY WAS INTERPRETING IT IN SUCH A WAY
THAT THE LOOPHOLE FOR NO SIDEWALKS AND NO ADDITIONAL
DEVELOPMENT NEARBY WAS BEING USED MORE OFTEN THAN EVERY
OTHER LOOPHOLE COMBINED.
ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF THE TIME, THAT WAS THE LOOPHOLE THAT WAS
BEING PRESENTED.
THEY WENT SO FAR AS TO SAY PEOPLE WHO HAD SIDEWALKS ON THEIR
SITE PLAN COULD TAKE THEM OFF.
SO WHEN I ASKED ABOUT IT, THEY SAID, ARE THERE ACTIVE
BUILDING PERMITS IN THE AREA?
ANOTHER VERY SUBJECTIVE THING, SIMULTANEOUSLY,

SIMULTANEOUSLY IS NOT LONG TERM.
IT IS SHORT TERM.
BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM CAME WHEN THEY DIDN'T EVEN INTERPRET
IT AND THERE WERE SIDEWALKS NEARBY.
THESE HAD SIDEWALKS AND YET THEY APPROVED THE LOOPHOLE.
HERE IS MY FAVORITE, SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES AND YET THEY
APPROVED THE LOOPHOLE.
THEY ARE NOT EVEN ENFORCING IT WHEN IT DOESN'T QUALIFY.
IF THEY CAN'T BE ENTRUSTED TO ENFORCE IT PROPERLY, AND IF
THEY CAN'T INTERPRET IT TO GET MORE SIDEWALKS, THAT'S WHY WE
ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
10:30:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CARROLL ANN.
I APPRECIATE IT.
WE SIT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, EVERY TIME, I'M GOING TO CONFUSE
YOU EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
10:30:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
10:30:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE GOT INSULTED.
10:30:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
10:30:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIFFANY, FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN MICHELINI.
GOOD MORNING.
10:30:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:30:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN SEE IT.
10:30:59AM >> MY NAME IS TIFFANY POOLE.
I AM A MOTHER OF A MINOR CHILD THAT IS A CITIZEN OF TAMPA,
AND WE ARE PROUD CITIZENS OF TAMPA.

THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH TPD.
MY SON DOES RIDE A BIKE.
HE HAS AN E-BIKE.
HE OWNS AN ULTRA-B, IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
HE LIKES WHEELIE, YES.
THE REPORT IS NOT MATCHING.
MY SON AND HIS FRIEND WAS, AS THE REPORT SAY, OBSERVED TWO
AFRICAN AMERICAN MALES WAS OBSERVED ON BAYSHORE, AS THEY
SAY, DISTRICT 3.
THEY START IN DISTRICT 1, AND DISTRICT 3 THEY ENDED UP
SEARCHING MY CHILDREN.
HAD THEIR HANDS UP.
12 AND 15 YEARS OLD.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT.
PATTING THEM DOWN WITHOUT THEIR MOTHER.
AND THE GRANDPARENT WAS IN THE HOUSE.
SO I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM, YOU GUYS, THAT I'M GOING TO
KEEP MARCHING ON ABOUT, IF I HAVE TO STAND BY MYSELF.
MY CHILD IS 15.
HE HELPS FIX BIKES, E-BIKES FOR KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE LOVES TO CUT LAWN FOR ELDERLY.
HE ASSEMBLES FURNITURE FOR THE ELDERLY.
HE IS A GOOD KID.
FOR HIM TO GET -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT ATTACKED, BUT THIS
REPORT IS NOT MATCHING WHAT THE LIEUTENANT TOLD ME OVER THE

PHONE.
HE EVEN KNOW THAT.
HIS NAME IS LIEUTENANT HOUSTON.
HE WAS WITH THE DISTRICT 1.
HOWEVER, SOME OF THE STUFF DID MATCH UP, BUT MY THING IS WHY
EIGHT COPS?
IF YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE STRIP, EIGHT COPS ON TWO CHILDREN.
HELP ME -- HELP ME, PLEASE.
HELP MY, HELP ME FROM NOT BEING EMOTIONALLY -- NOW MY CHILD
HAS TO SEEK COUNSELING.
ALREADY HAD A TALK WITH HIM YEARS AGO ABOUT YOU'RE NOT THE
SAME.
YOU'RE NOT THE SAME!
MY BLACK SKIN, I'M SORRY TO MAKE THIS RACIAL.
BECAUSE THE OTHER CHILD WAS HISPANIC.
HE WAS NOT BLACK AT ALL.
THIS REPORT IS FALSE.
AND IT ONLY HAVE TWO OFFICERS' NAMES ON HERE.
I HAVE ASKED FOR BODY CAM BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT MATCH.
NOT EIGHT COPS ON HERE.
THEY JUMPED OUT AT MY CHILD, ON MY PARENTS' PROPERTY.
KNOCK ON MY DOOR.
MY MOM WAS IN THE HOUSE.
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
Y'ALL HELP ME, PLEASE.

BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP ON.
I'LL BE BACK DOWN HERE.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
10:33:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEBASTIAN OR ANY OF THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES,
CAN YOU COME OUT AND GET TIFFANY'S CONTACT INFORMATION FOR
US PLEASE?
SOMEBODY WILL MEET YOU TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
10:33:55AM >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
10:33:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEPHEN MICHELINI.
BEFORE WE RECOGNIZE YOU FOR SPEAKING, I NEED TO SEND YOU TO
HANDWRITING SCHOOL.
NO WAY IN THE WORLD I COULD INTERPRET STEVE MICHELINI.
10:34:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I GOT IT RIGHT AWAY.
10:34:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE DID.
10:34:15AM >> SEND ME TO PENMANSHIP SCHOOL?
10:34:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
THAT IS TERRIBLE.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:34:23AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THAT I WANT TO BRING YOUR
ATTENTION TO.
THIS NOTICE WAS SENT OUT A FEW DAYS AGO REGARDING STREET
CLOSURES ON SOUTH HOWARD.
AND THE COUNCIL VERY SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED THE WATER AND THE
PIPES PROGRAM FROM STORMWATER.

YOU HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, AND YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T
GOING TO DO THAT.
WHAT THIS HAS DONE IS COMBINE THE STORMWATER ISSUE WITH THE
PIPES PROGRAM.
WE ALSO HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT --
10:35:08AM >> SIR, YOU HAVE MESSAGES SHOWING UP.
10:35:12AM >> THERE WE GO.
10:35:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU JUST ANSWERED IT.
HEY, ADAM.
HI, ADAM.
YOU ARE SPECIAL.
10:35:25AM >> WHATEVER.
I'M NOT THAT TECHY.
SORRY.
I NEED A COUPLE OF EXTRA SECONDS HERE.
ANYWAY, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT WITH MOBILITY THAT WITH
STREET CLOSURES, EXCEPT FOR EMERGENCIES, WERE GOING TO BE
COORDINATED WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
THERE ALSO WAS A PROVISION IN THERE, REQUIRED NOTICE THROUGH
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITTING
DEPARTMENT, THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN EITHER.
WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY PIGGYBACKED STORMWATER ONTO A PIPES
PROGRAM.
THERE WAS NO NOTICE AND THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO START THIS

STREET CLOSURE THIS WEEKEND.
ROUTING TRAFFIC AROUND.
THIS IS A BIG WEEKEND FOR PEOPLE, DINING.
IT ISN'T CORRECT AND THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE COMBINED THE
PIPES PROGRAM WITH THE STORMWATER PROGRAM AFTER THE
ADMONISHMENT AND THE DISCUSSION THAT TOOK PLACE WITH CITY
COUNCIL.
ONE OTHER ISSUE, AND I KNOW THIS IS SENSITIVE TO YOU,
MR. CHAIRMAN, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE SPEAKER IS, THEY DON'T
DESERVE TO BE ATTACKED PERSONALLY BY CITY STAFF, WHICH
HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND.
WHAT I PRESENT TO YOU IS FACTUALLY BASED REGARDING SOUTH
HOWARD AND THE STORMWATER PROJECT.
IT IS NOT CONJECTURE.
IT IS BASED ON APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY THE
CITY AND ARE, IN FACT, REGISTERED WITH THE STATE AND
S.W.F.W.M.D.
SO WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT
ATTACKS ME AND SAYS BASICALLY HE'S PAID.
THEREFORE IT'S NOT VALID.
THEY ARE PAID.
THE CITY STAFF IS PAID.
SOME OF THEM ARE MAKING $200,000 A YEAR.
IT DOESN'T MAKE THEIR COMMENTS ANY LESS VALID OR MINE LESS
VALID.

IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT ARE THE FACTS.
I WOULD APPRECIATE AN APOLOGY FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS.
I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO GET IT, BUT I'D APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
10:37:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
JAMES ADAIR FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT.
MR. ADAIR.
GOOD MORNING.
10:37:44AM >> I'VE GOT A HANDOUT.
10:37:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID --
10:37:58AM >> JAMES ADAIR, THE NEIGHBOR WHO CARES.
LET'S GO.
WAIT, HOLD ON.
UNMUTE AND TURN SOME VOLUME UP.
STEVE, THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE, BUDDY.
10:38:08AM >> I RECENTLY CAME INTO INFORMATION ABOUT A LARGE GENERATOR
THAT'S JUST SITTING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON A LOT DOING
NOTHING.
WE BOUGHT THIS THING IN 2020, SIX YEARS OLD AND BASICALLY
PAYING TO MAINTAIN IT AND IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.
NOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA BOUGHT OR IS PURCHASING ADDITIONAL
GENERATORS JUST LIKE THIS ONE THAT ARE GOING TO GO OUT AND
GET DEPLOYED IN AREAS THAT HAVE STORMWATER LIFT STATIONS TO
GET THE WATER FROM IN THE BASIN OUT TO A RIVER OR WHATEVER
SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T DROWN, BASICALLY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.
A LOT OF MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON IT.
BUT WE HAVE THIS ONE GENERATOR THAT'S JUST BEEN SITTING
THERE AND HASN'T BEEN DOING A THING.
I WANT TO KIND OF LET YOU SEE THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE OF THIS
GENERATOR.
IT'S A MONSTER.
THAT IS STANDARD PICTURE.
AND THEN HERE IS THE PURCHASE PRICE.
AND THEN HERE IS KIND OF THE PROOF THAT IT'S NEVER DONE
ANYTHING.
IT'S NEVER GONE ANYWHERE.
YOU NEED A CERTAIN KIND OF TRUCK TO TELL IT, LOWER HITCH
THAN WHAT IS NORMAL ON THESE TRUCKS, I GUESS.
HOW DO YOU GET IT SOMEWHERE?
IT'S NOT THAT HARD.
SOMEBODY JUST NEEDS TO KNOW, OH, WE HAVE A GENERATOR.
WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
IT'S JUST SITTING THERE.
HERE IS THE VEHICLE INVENTORY IN CITY WORKS THAT SHOWS THAT
THIS THINGS EXIST.
IT'S SIZE.
IT'S BIG.
AND THEN HERE IS THE SERVICE RECORD.
JUST SORT OF SITTING THERE.

RIGHT?
IT COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON A REPAIR AND A COUPLE
HUNDRED BUCKS.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS, SAD, THIS THING COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO
TURN ON SOME OF THE LIFT STATIONS AFTER THE STORMS SO SOME
OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T SIT IN THEIR HOUSES FOR TEN DAYS WITH
WATER HALFWAY IN THEIR HOUSE.
BUT I WOULD RATHER TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CROWDSOURCE WHAT
WE CAN DO WITH IT.
I STARTED THINKING THROUGH AND GOOGLING, LIKE, WHERE IS THE
LIFT STATION, WHERE IS WASTEWATER, WHATEVER IT IS?
I KIND OF CAME UP WITH DEAD ENDS.
I KNOW A LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES WATCH THESE VIDEOS AND THEY
WATCH IN CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SO IN YOUR DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT, IF YOU ARE TAMPA PD OR
EMERGENCY CATASTROPHE DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER, DO YOU HAVE A
USE FOR THIS LARGE THING THAT YOU COULD BORROW?
BECAUSE AS IT JUST SITS THERE, IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.
IT'S DYING.
IF IT DOESN'T GET USED, IT GOES AWAY.
MESSAGE ME, YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, YOU CAN FIND ME.
LET'S FIGURE OUT SOME WAYS THAT THIS THING CAN BE USED.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO END UP BEING A BACKUP GENERATOR FOR
ONE OF THE BRAND-NEW ONES WE BOUGHT ANYWAY.
END OF THE DAY, SAT THERE SIX YEARS.

IT NEVER LEFT THE LOT.
I ASSUME THE WHEELS STILL WORK.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LET'S FIND A SOLUTION.
INTERNET, DO YOUR THING -- THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
10:41:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROBIN LOCKETT FOLLOWED BY VALERIE BULLOCK.
CANDIDATE ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:41:14AM >> YES.
THANK YOU.
I CAN'T FIND MY DARN --
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT, CANDIDATE FOR STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 63.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WORKING THINGS OUT FOR ZION
CEMETERY.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, AND WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT I'M THANKFUL THAT WE CAN
AT LEAST MAKE THIS FIRST STEP.
SO ZION AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN PLACE FOR THE
YELLOW JACKETS.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, THAT IT IS YOUR FULL INTENT TO
MAKE SURE THE YELLOW JACKETS ARE MADE WHOLE.
TWO THINGS I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR.
ZION CEMETERY, THE FIRST STEP HAS BEEN MADE, SO WE CAN
CONTINUE.
AS WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE WILL NEED MONEY FOR THAT GENEALOGY

CENTER.
AND THE SECOND THING IS YELLOW JACKETS.
SO THANK YOU.
I'M LOOKING FOR MY PHONE.
10:42:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I TRIED CALLING, WENT STRAIGHT TO VOICE
MAIL.
IT'S TURNED OFF BECAUSE IT WENT TO VOICE MAIL.
VALERIE, FOLLOWED BY --
10:42:37AM >> HI.
VALERIE BULLOCK, FROM PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE HILL
PROJECTS.
I WANT TO THAT YOU CAN ABOUT 19, 20, 21.
FOR NUMBER 19, THE NEW APARTMENTS, CONDOS, WHATEVER THEY ARE
BUILDING, I THINK IT WILL BE LIKE SIX THREE-BEDROOMS AND
THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE ZONING TO BE PASSED.
BUT I DON'T GET IT.
THEY ALREADY BUILT THE APARTMENT.
WHY ARE WE DOING ZONING NOW?
I THOUGHT YOU DO ZONING BEFORE THEY START BUILDING.
SO MAYBE I'M CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GO, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE
BACKWARDS TO ME.
AND LITTLE PICKUP STICK HOUSES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY
LOOK LIKE.
IF ONE CATCH ON FIRE, IT MIGHT EVEN BURN DOWN MIDDLETON

SCHOOL.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE I'VE ASKED
SEVERAL PEOPLE, AND THEY SAID THAT THE ZONING SHOULD BE DONE
BEFORE THE BUILDING.
AND I GO OVER THERE EVERY DAY AND TAKE PICTURES AND TALK TO
WHOEVER IS THERE.
SO IF WE CAN DO STUFF WITHOUT ZONING BEING APPROVED, I MIGHT
AS WELL GO ON AND DO MY OWN DECK AND SCREEN IT IN IF I DON'T
NEED APPROVAL.
AND ON NUMBER 20, I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE RESOLUTION.
WHEN IT WAS THE FIRST READING, I THOUGHT WE READ IT AND THEN
READ THE SECOND TIME.
BUT NOW WE'VE GOT A RESOLUTION UP HERE ABOUT A AQUINO
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
AQUINO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, THEY HAVE A LOT OF
DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW THE CITY INVOLVED WITH THE MANAGING OF
THE PROPERTY.
WHY DID THAT RESOLUTION HAVE TO GO IN THERE?
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS A LITTLE DICTATORSHIP TO ME.
10:44:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
10:44:36AM >> THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO TALK.
OKAY.
I'LL TALK AGAIN.

10:44:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARROLL ANN -- STEPHANIE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET OLD.
HOW WAS YOUR EVENING YESTERDAY, STEPHANIE?
10:44:54AM >> YEAH, I GOT YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'VE GIVEN YOU A SPEECH THAT I MADE LAST YEAR ABOUT ROME
YARD.
GO FIGURE.
NUMBER 4 AND NUMBER 23, THE WATER CAPACITY FEES, IT'S FUNNY
BECAUSE THAT GENTLEMAN IS LIKE, OH, MINUSCULE.
LAST TWO YEARS, EVEN IF WE CALL MULTIFAMILY ONLY TWO UNITS,
THAT WOULD BE $1.8 MILLION THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS LEFT
ON THE TABLE.
JUST IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY
IF WE CALL MULTIFAMILY TWO UNITS.
SO THAT'S 1.8 MILLION.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY IN MY WORLD.
ANYWAY, VETERANS BOARD FOR NUMBER 22, I'VE BEEN A SPOUSE FOR
ALMOST 30 YEARS.
I AM NOT A VETERAN.
I KNOW ABOUT BEING -- I KNOW ABOUT BEING MARRIED TO A
VETERAN, BUT THIS BOARD, IF IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED A
VETERANS BOARD, IT NEEDS TO BE A VETERANS BOARD.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MY VETERAN AT HOME TOLD ME YESTERDAY,

HE SAID ANY MORE THAN EIGHT OR NINE PEOPLE ON A BOARD IS A
WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE TO GET
ANYTHING DONE.
I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT IS STAGGERED EITHER IF YOU READ IT.
NUMBER 26 THROUGH 28, THE FORENSICS LAB, NEIGHBORS ARE
BEGGING FOR SIDEWALKS.
THEY ARE BEGGING FOR STREETS.
THEY ARE BEGGING FOR STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT YET, I MEAN, I WENT TO THE FORENSICS LAB IN MY LITTLE
CRAZY BRAIN, IT CAN'T BE ANY MORE THAN ABOUT 2,000 SQUARE
FEET NOW.
THE REST OF IT WILL ALL BE WAREHOUSE.
BUT WE'LL SPEND $40 MILLION ON IT.
I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
CHEAPER THAN THAT, IT WILL COME OUT TO 40, TRUST ME.
I NEED TEN MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT ROME YARD, BUT SINCE I
CAN'T, I WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT FOR THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS APPROVED 1436
DAYS AGO.
1436 DAYS.
THAT'S A LONG FRICKING TIME IN MY WORLD.
THIS IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, PAGE 22, WHERE WE ARE
SELLING TO RELATED GROUP EACH TOWN HOUSE PROPERTY FOR $2500.
BUT THEY CAN SELL THOSE PROPERTIES FOR UP TO 200% AMI.

WHICH IS OVER $200,000.
A YEAR.
ANNUALLY.
OKAY?
YET THEY ARE HERE BEGGING YOU FOR MORE TIME.
AND THEY ALREADY WENT BACK TO THE WEST TAMPA CAC BEGGING FOR
MORE MONEY, BUT YET THEY ARE SITTING ON THEIR BEHINDS AND
NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL WITHOUT HOUSING BECAUSE THEY ARE
BEING LAZY AND NOT GETTING IT DONE?
ALSO, IN THIS CONTRACT ON PAGE 26, IT SAYS THEY HAVE 180
DAYS TO DO ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL DUE DILIGENCE.
WE'RE AT 1436 DAYS, FOLKS.
THIS CONTRACT SAYS REPEATEDLY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA CAN
CANCEL IT IF THEY ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
DOING.
WHY IN THE HELL WOULD WE GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION?
I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.
IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I GAVE YOU, THE OLD, THE LAST
SPEECH.
BUT HERE IS THE OTHER NIFTY PIECE OF INFORMATION.
THEY STARTED WITH PHASE THREE.
GUESS WHAT, PHASE ONE IS WHERE THE CBA IS SUPPOSED TO BE
DONE.
THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY-BASED

AGREEMENT, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FIRST.
YOU NEED TO MAKE THEM DO IT NOW, NOT LATER.
10:48:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
Q. DO WE HAVE BOTH PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON LINE?
MICHAEL RANDOLPH, YOU ARE FIRST.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:48:27AM >> THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROME YARD PROJECT AND
COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE ROME YARD
PROJECT WILL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
FOR THE LAST MONTHS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, WEALTH
BUILDING AND JOB CREATION CENTER.
TODAY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE JOB CREATION.
NEXT WEEK WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THE
PROJECT.
WEST TAMPA, A NEW ECONOMIC, JOB CREATION.
THE WEST TAMPA CDC IS BUILDING A PERMANENT COMMUNITY ROOTED
ECONOMY USING A.I. TO TRANSFORM WEST TAMPA FROM A
NEIGHBORHOOD AT RISK TO A COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE KEY STRATEGIC.
FIRST, JOBS.
PREPARING RESIDENTS FOR 60 PLUS CAREER PATH AND SHOWING THAT
OUR WORKFORCE LEAD THE ECONOMIC RESOLUTION.
SECOND, INCOME STABILIZATION.
SUPPORTING 40 PLUS COMMUNITY-BASED BUSINESSES AND E-COMMERCE
MODELS TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME AND SHOULD I SAY NEED
TO INCLUDE HELPING PEOPLE WITH THE COST OF INFLATION AND
RAISING RENT.
JOB MULTIPLIER EFFECT.
AS THESE BUSINESSES GROW TO SCALE, THEY ARE HIRING LOCALLY,
CREATING A CYCLE OF GROWTH FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, JOBS.
NEXT, EQUITY DEVELOPMENT.
MARGINALIZED VOICES TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY NOT OUTSIDE
INTERESTS, ARE PRIMARY BENEFITS OF BOTH.
FINALLY, IN THE CITY, GOING TO LOVE THIS, FISCAL STRENGTH.
GENERATING NEW CITY TAX REVENUE FOR BUSINESS LICENSES AND
TAX SALES.
SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE RAISING FUNDS.
FINALLY, OUR WEALTH BUILDING DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY.
RESIDENTS FROM CONSUMERS TO OWNERS OF PHYSICAL ASSETS,
CREATING A FINANCIAL SHELL AGAINST GENTRIFICATION.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND WE DO
FULLY SUPPORT ZION CEMETERY AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL BRING IT
TO THE LIGHT AND FUND THEM BECAUSE IT IS AN ECONOMIC

STRATEGY AS WELL.
10:51:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.
ADRIANA RODRIGUEZ.
GOOD MORNING, MY FRIEND.
MR. RODRIGUEZ.
UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
10:51:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:51:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:51:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ, TAMPA, LIFELONG RESIDENT AND NATIVE.
WHEN I LAST SPOKE REMOTELY, FEBRUARY 5th, I WASN'T ABLE TO
SEE COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING COMMENTS.
I WAS TOLD ONE MEMBER WAS LOOKING AT HIS CELL PHONE AND
TURNING AWAY.
THAT SENDS A MESSAGE OF DISINTEREST.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WHILE I'M SPEAKING COUNCIL MEMBERS
GIVE THIS ISSUE FULL ATTENTION TO THIS CRITICAL SITUATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON COLON CEMETERY.
THE ORIGINAL CEMETERY WAS BUILT OVER AND ERASED IN THE
1980s.
CONTINUING TO USE THAT NAME DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY.
AFTER DISCOVERY OF ZION CEMETERY, CITY OFFICIALS STATED AND
HERE ARE QUOTES, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THIS NEVER HAPPENS

AGAIN.
WE OWE IT TO THESE FAMILIES TO PROTECT THESE SITES.
THIS IS A LESSON FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO I ASK, WAS THAT JUST LIP SERVICE?
BECAUSE HERE WE ARE NOW FACING THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN.
WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT HISTORY FROM REPEATING ITSELF AND TO
STOP ANOTHER HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BURIAL GROUND FROM
BEING IGNORED OR ERASED.
I WAS TOLD BY MR. SHELBY THAT THIS ISSUE IS OUTSIDE THE
SCOPE OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
RESPECTFULLY, THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
FLORIDA STATUTE 872 PROTECTS BURIAL SITES.
RECENT UPDATES STRENGTHEN THOSE PROTECTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR
ABANDONED AND UNMARKED CEMETERIES LIKE THIS.
THESE LAWS EXIST TO PREVENT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.
AND YOU DO HAVE THE POWER TO ACT, COUNCIL.
YOU CAN PAUSE CONSTRUCTION.
YOU CAN DELAY PERMITTING.
YOU CAN CALL FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION.
CITY'S BUILDING OFFICIAL JC HUDGISON ALREADY HAS THIS
INFORMATION.
THIS IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
THIS IS HAPPENING NOW.
THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER YOU CAN ACT.
THE QUESTION IS WILL YOU?

IF THE CITY MEANT WHAT IT SAID AFTER ZION THAT THIS MUST
NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, THEN THIS IS THE MOMENT TO PROVE IT
BECAUSE WE OWE IT TO THE FAMILIES, OWE IT THE HISTORY, OWE
IT TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA TO ENSURE COLON CEMETERY IS NOT
ANOTHER FAILURE TO PROTECT WHAT MATTERS.
RICHARD GONZMART AND CITY OF TAMPA ON A LAND SWAP DEAL
PERTAINING TO ZION CEMETERY.
THANK YOU, RICHARD, FOR ALWAYS DOING THE RIGHT THING, UNLIKE
OTHERS.
I ALSO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO REACH OUT TO PATRICK THORPE AND
OTHER LANDOWNERS WITH -- TO EXPLORE SIMILAR LAND SWAPS AND
PROTECT THESE SITES.
OUR HISTORY IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN UNCHECKED
DEVELOPMENT.
394 DAYS, TAMPA WILL HAVE A MAYOR THAT LISTENS TO THE
COMMUNITY -- WILL HAVE A MAYOR LISTENS TO THE COMMUNITY,
CARES ABOUT OUR HISTORY, THE BLACK COMMUNITIES, AND WORKS
WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, NOT AGAINST THEM.
394 DAYS UNTIL BABY JANE LEAVES OFFICE.
HANG IN THERE, TAMPA.
HAVE A GREAT DAY, COUNCIL.
10:54:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANY REQUESTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF

LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
HEARING NONE, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILWOMAN YUCK, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 5 AND 6?
10:54:41AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 5 AND 6.
10:54:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 7 AND 8?
10:54:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE ITEMS 7 AND 8.
10:54:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 9 AND 10.
10:55:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, SIR.
I MOVE ITEMS 9 AND 10 ON FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:55:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
TWO THINGS FOR YOU, MR. CARLSON.

WOULD YOU FIRST MOVE ITEMS 11 THROUGH 13?
10:55:14AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEM NUMBER
12 BECAUSE A CLIENT THAT MY COMPANY DOES BUSINESS WITH MAY
BE RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
I'LL MOVE 11 AND 13.
10:55:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
TO MOVE 11 AND 13.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:55:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEM 12.
10:55:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO MOVE
ITEM 12, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:55:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE HAVE THEM CALL IT?
10:55:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE WITH HIM RECUSING
HIMSELF.
ITEM NUMBER 12.
10:55:49AM >>THE CLERK:
ITEM 12 PASSES WITH CARLSON RECUSING.
10:55:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, ABSTAIN?
10:55:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT.
10:56:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY, IT'S ABSTAIN.

10:56:08AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
10:56:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY, I LED YOU DOWN THAT PATH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEM 16 AND 17, THE
SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS, PLEASE RESOLUTIONS.
10:56:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
10:56:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:56:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 18.
10:56:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO MOVING ITEM 18.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
10:56:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30
PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:56:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN 10 AND 10:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:56:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS ABSENT ON 19 BUT I REVIEWED THE FILE.
10:56:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE ABSENT ON 20,

AND YOU ARE READY TO VOTE?
VERY GOOD.
ITEM NUMBER 19.
STAFF.
10:57:06AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN THIS MORNING.
10:57:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE SEE YOU NOW.
CAN YOU PUT IT UP ON THE PUBLIC MONITORS AS WELL, PLEASE?
START WITH YOUR NAME, SIR.
CHRISTOPHER, START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:57:20AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
SORRY.
I HAVE NOT -- MR. CHAIRMAN, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE,
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
10:57:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SORRY, WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.
ANYBODY HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WOULD YOU STAND, RAISE
YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN?
10:57:39AM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU
ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
10:57:44AM >> I DO.
10:57:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN.
10:57:47AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE
WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 IS REZ 25-126.

THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4102
NORTH 22nd STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CG TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:58:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAD A CONCERN IN PUBLIC COMMENT, AS
MENTIONED, THAT THIS WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTED PROJECT, CAN
YOU PLEASE GIVE THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT AND WHY
IT IS BEING REZONED?
10:58:25AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE REZONING, THE ZONING FOR THE
SITE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING
UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS SITE.
THE UNITS HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM EAST IDA STREET WHILE
THE FRONT DOOR FOR UNIT 4 IS ALONG 4102 NORTH 22nd STREET.
ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS, MR. CHAIRMAN?
10:58:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- IF THERE WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTION ON
THE PROJECT.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENT FOR THIS?
THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
10:59:18AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
OKAY.

10:59:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COME FORWARD.
COULD YOU PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ABOUT YOUR REQUEST?
COULD YOU PROVIDE CLARIFICATION ABOUT YOUR REQUEST?
THERE WAS A PERSON IN THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE ABOUT THIS
PROJECT THIS MORNING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND SAID THAT
THERE WAS ALREADY CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECT AND WHY ARE WE
REZONING NOW.
10:59:38AM >> NO, IT IS A VACANT LOT.
NOTHING GOING ON.
10:59:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:59:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE TIME COMES
ABOUT THE PROJECT.
10:59:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
WHILE PRESENTING THE PROJECT, WANTED CLARIFICATION.
10:59:54AM >> MARIO ESPAILLAT.
10:59:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
11:00:00AM >> NO, HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:00:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THE ITEM.
11:00:04AM >> MY NAME IS VALERIE BULLOCK, PONCE De LEON, COLLEGE
HILL.
THE PROPERTY NAME WILL BE SUMMER SET ON GENESIS.
HERE IS WHAT THEY ALREADY BUILT.
THIS IS FROM WHAT I TOOK ON MONDAY.
I HAVE BEEN BACK BY THERE, BUT I TOOK PICTURES ON ANOTHER

PHONE.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE STARTED.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY ALREADY PUT THE INSTALLATION STUFF
ON IT ALSO.
I HAVE WITNESSES.
I CALLED MRS. BYRD AND SHE CAME AROUND THERE WITH ME AND I
WENT INSIDE THE PROPERTY AND TALKED TO THE MAN.
I ASKED HIM, DO YOU ALL DO HIRING.
HE TOLD ME NO, HE'S NOT THE OWNER, I ASKED HIM THAT, TOO.
HE SAID HE WAS NOT THE OWNER.
BUT DEFINITELY BUILDING UP THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PICKUP STICKS.
THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED CALLING IT.
PICKUP STICKS.
IT ALREADY HAVE THE INSULATION ON THE OUTSIDE.
THE WRAP.
[PHONE RINGING]
IT'S A BUILDING THERE ALREADY.
11:01:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
THE ITEM?
11:01:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
THE PROPERTY, IF 4102 NORTH 22nd STREET IS NOT THE PICKUP
STICK ITEMS THAT WE WITNESSED ON 22nd STREET, I WOULD SAY
I APOLOGIZE.

BUT THERE IS CONSTRUCTION BEING DONE AT THE CORNER OF 22nd
STREET AND 41st.
MY CONCERN, AND OUR CONCERN IS THAT WE SEE A LOT OF
FAST-MOVING PROJECTS GOING IN EAST TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE AGENDA.
THE AGENDA IS TALKING ABOUT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING
REGARDING THE SECOND READING.
SO THINGS ARE NOT MATCHING UP.
WE WANT REAL TRANSPARENCY.
WE CANNOT ASK THE RESIDENTS NOT TO START ON PROJECTS THAT
HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
AND THEN WE SEE PEOPLE, DEVELOPERS COMING IN, MOVING THEIR
PROJECTS AS IF IT'S A DONE DEAL.
I WOULD SAY SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA NEED TO GET OUT
THERE AND SEE, AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS CALLING IT
THE PICKUP STICK PROJECT.
BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE SEE IS A BUNCH OF WOOD.
AND NOW EVERY DAY YOU GO THROUGH THERE, YOU SEE ONE OR TWO
PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT PROJECT.
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IS THE SITE MANAGER, WHERE IS THE CITY
OF TAMPA INSPECTORS ON THAT PROJECT, AND THAT THE COMMUNITY
IS NOT JUST BAMBOOZLED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOW WILLING TO SEE
PROJECTS THAT JUST ALMOST LIKE STAMPED AND APPROVED AND RUN
THROUGH EAST TAMPA.
THANK YOU.

11:03:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CONNIE.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT, CAN YOU COME BACK FORWARD?
YOU ONLY GET ONE BITE AT THE APPLE.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE?
CAN YOU ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE JUST EXPRESSED?
11:03:25AM >> I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION THERE.
TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PROPERTY.
11:03:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME AGAIN.
11:03:30AM >> MARIO ESPAILLAT.
I THINK THEY ARE CONFUSED BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON
ON THAT LOT AT ALL.
THIS IS THE CORNER OF IDA AND 22nd.
THERE'S NOTHING GOING ON ON THAT LOT RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONFUSION IS.
11:03:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
NO?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU READ 19, PLEASE?
11:04:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL MOVE IT AND SUPPORT IT ASSUMING WHAT HE
JUST SAID IS TRUE.
IF NEW EVIDENCE ARISES -- THIS IS THE SECOND READING.
FILE REZ-25 -- MOVE FILE REZ-25-126, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4102 NORTH
22nd STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO PD, PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:04:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:04:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING?
11:04:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S CLOSED.
11:04:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AFTER WE VOTE THEN.
11:05:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE SPEAK?
IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE IS HAVING DIFFICULTY.
11:05:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S CLOSED.
CAN'T PROVIDE MORE TESTIMONY.
11:05:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO OPEN AND RECONSIDER IT.
11:05:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING --
11:05:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT REOPEN THE HEARING.

11:05:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
WAS IT A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
HE WAS FIRST.
11:05:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR EVIDENCE IN
VOTING, HEARD OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT EVEN THE RIGHT ADDRESS.
NOTHING, NO BEARING OF ANYTHING BUT RAW LAND.
IT'S BASED ON THAT EVIDENCE THAT I'M VOTING.
I'M SURE THE COUNCIL IS, TOO, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
11:06:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SAME THING.
WE JUST HAVE THE EVIDENCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
SO, YEAH, I AGREE --
11:06:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HE DID THAT UNDER OATH.
11:06:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR LIGHT IS STILL
ON.
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
DO WE NEED TO READ THIS AGAIN?

NO.
OKAY.
WE HAD THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE AGAIN, PLEASE.
11:06:52AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:06:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 20.
STAFF?
11:06:57AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THANK YOU, AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 20 IS REZ-25-129.
THIS ITEM IS REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2707
EAST 22nd AVENUE UNIT NUMBER 1.
REQUEST IS REZONE FROM RM 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO
THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
11:07:29AM >> JAIME MAIER, HILL WARD HENDERSON.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I HAVE NO COMMENTS TO ADD BUT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

11:07:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM
20?
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:07:44AM >> VALERIE BULLOCK.
AQUINO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT LLC.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRIVATE
BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AGREEMENT
WAS PUT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.
IS THE CITY MANAGEMENT BUSINESS NOW?
11:08:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
YOU WANT TO REBUT?
11:08:19AM >> JAIME MAIER WITH HILL WARD HENDERSON REPRESENTING THE
APPLICANT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THEIR MANAGEMENT PRACTICES
BUT WE THINK ON THE MERITS WE MET THE CODE WITH THE
APPLICATION.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU.
11:08:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MARTY, TO COMMENT, MADE IN PUBLIC, IS THAT
EVIDENCE WE COULD USE IN OUR DECISION OR NOT?

11:08:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, FOR THE PURPOSE OF A BONUS PROVISION
AGREEMENT, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO, AS LONG AS IT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
SUPPORTS THE REZONING AND THE DECISION TO APPROVE A BONUS
PROVISION AGREEMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR
YOUR DECISIONS.
IF THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS, JUST AS IF THERE ARE OTHER
CONCERNS WITH ANY OTHER CASE, THAT MAY REQUIRE YOU TO MAKE
INQUIRIES OF STAFF, YOU COULD STILL DO SO.
I KNOW MS. JOHNSON VELEZ IS HERE.
SHE HAS NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:09:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID THAT SATISFY YOU?
11:09:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I THINK THE POINT IS THE ISSUES
BROUGHT UP BY MS. BULLOCK COULD BE ADDRESSED OUTSIDE OF THIS
HEARING.
11:09:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 20.
11:09:37AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, I MOVE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2707 EAST 22nd AVENUE UNIT 1 IN

THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM 16,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI-DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:09:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA,
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:10:04AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:10:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MOVE THE
RESOLUTION?
11:10:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HEREBY MOVE.
11:10:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO ITEM 20.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:10:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE JUST LET ME KNOW THAT
ABBYE FEELEY GAVE US A CALL AND LET US KNOW SHE'S GOING TO
SEND SOMEONE OUT TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY JUST TO DOUBLE
CHECK AND MAKE EVERYONE FEEL BETTER.
11:10:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DID YOU HEAR THAT, MS. BULLOCK?
11:10:34AM >> YES, THANK YOU.

11:10:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 21, STAFF.
11:10:38AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS REZ-26-32.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 110 SOUTH
BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY, AND PARKING
OFF-STREET COMMERCIAL.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHRISTOPHER, THE CHANGES TO THE
LANDSCAPING PLAN, WAS THAT DONE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND?
11:11:09AM >>CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE:
IT WAS DONE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
STAFF CONFIRMED THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED REVISED PLANS.
WE INSPECTED DIGITAL PLANS FIRST, AND THEN THEY PROVIDED
PRINTED PLANS, WHICH WERE INSPECTED AGAIN.
11:11:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPLICANT?
11:11:24AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HERE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:11:44AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ITEM 21, FILE REZ-26-32, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
110 SOUTH BOULEVARD, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PARKING OFF-STREET
COMMERCIAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:12:24AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE
THE RESOLUTION.
11:12:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
RESOLUTION APPROVING -- OH, MOVE THE
RESOLUTION.
11:12:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG MOVES THE RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
ITEM NUMBER 22.
11:13:00AM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST READING FOR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
TO CREATE A VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE IS BASICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES TO CREATE GREATER AWARENESS IN THE
COMMUNITY OF VETERANS.
AND ALSO TO COORDINATE WITH THE DIFFERENT VETERAN
COMMUNITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY.
WHEN WE PUT THIS ORDINANCE TOGETHER, WE DID A SURVEY OF
RELATIVELY SIMILAR ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, OTHER
CITIES AND COUNTIES HAVE.
AND THIS IS THE RESULT.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
11:13:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:13:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU, MR. BRODY, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS VERY
MUCH SO.
WE'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR A WHILE.
MY IDEA WAS I'M OUT OF HERE IN OCTOBER, AND I TYPICALLY DO A
LOT OF THESE PATRIOTIC AND MEMORIAL DAY THINGS OUT OF CITY

HALL AND SO FORTH.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONTINUES.
THAT I THINK HAVING A VETERANS ADVISORY BOARD CERTAINLY DOES
THAT AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.
THIS IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.
AS FOLKS SAID TODAY IN PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ARE A CITY OF
TAMPA THAT IS VERY PATRIOTIC AND WE LOVE OUR VETERANS.
WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT 125, 130,000 VETERANS I THINK IT IS
IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WHICH IS A GREAT NUMBER.
WE HAVE MANY, MANY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THERE WAS ONE LITTLE CHANGE I WANTED TO MAKE.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SOMEBODY MENTIONED THIS IN PUBLIC
COMMENT.
I AGREE WITH THIS, CAN WE DO THIS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING, UNDER MEMBERSHIP IT SAYS MEMBERSHIP SHALL CONSIST
OF VETERANS, AND THEN IT HAS DIFFERENT GROUPS, CAN WE CHANGE
THAT TO VETERANS OR GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS?
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE?
11:14:44AM >>CARL BRODY:
WE CAN CHANGE THAT IN BETWEEN.
11:14:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT WILL BE A REQUEST I'LL MAKE FOR THIS.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS.
I BELIEVE MS. POYNOR HAD SPOKEN ABOUT IT.
I KNOW HER HUSBAND, COLONEL POYNOR, WONDERFUL MAN, VERY GOOD
PERSON WITH VERY GOOD TASTE IN MUSIC.

WE TALK ABOUT MUSIC SOMETIMES.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
I THANK YOU FOR THIS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY GREAT.
I SEE THIS BEING A PERMANENT PART OF OUR CITY CIVIC CULTURE
LIKE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN ADVISORY BOARD.
HISPANIC ADVISORY BOARD, ASIAN PACIFIC ADVISORY BOARD AND SO
FORTH.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK, SIR.
11:15:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:15:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE -- I GUESS -- WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:15:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, THANK YOU FOR CHANGING
THAT, BUT I STILL AM CONCERNED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A WRONG THING AT ALL TO HAVE GOLD STAR
MEMBER FAMILIES, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO CAP IT AT A
NUMBER.
BECAUSE WHAT WERE TO HAPPEN IF IT BECOMES -- I MEAN, JUST
BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
IT COULD END UP BEING MORE FAMILIES THAN VETERANS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE OVERALL ISSUE.
SO MAYBE ONE VETERAN FAMILY FROM COUNCIL AND ONE FROM THE
MAYOR.

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK WOULD TAKE THE CONCERN OF
THOSE WHO SPOKE TODAY.
I THOUGHT MADE SENSE.
I APPRECIATE THE CHANGE.
BUT MAYBE JUST SAYING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FAMILIES SO THAT
WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON VETERANS LIKE THEY TALKED ABOUT.
11:16:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE.
YES, MA'AM.
I'M WILLING TO, IF COUNCIL IS AMENABLE TO THIS, IF WE HAVE
13 PEOPLE THAT WE CAN SAY NO MORE THAN FOUR POSITIONS GO TO
A GOLD STAR FAMILY.
11:16:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PERFECT.
11:16:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
11:16:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.
I DO APPRECIATE WHAT FOLKS SAID TODAY.
AND WE HAVE SO MANY VETERANS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FILL
THOSE POSITIONS WITH JUST THE VETERANS THEMSELVES.
11:17:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT WILL BE -- IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, ONE COUNCIL
MEMBER GETS TO PICK AND THEN THE MAYOR HAS SIX.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT, GO THROUGH THE FOLKS THAT YOU KNOW.
I KNOW WHO MY PICK IS.
VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
SO THERE YOU GO.
I WILL SAY THIS, AND COUNCIL KNOWS THIS, WHICH IS THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE -- OUR VETERAN POPULATION IS

EXTREMELY DIVERSE.
THEY COME FROM ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
ALL DIFFERENT SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS.
THEY ARE CHRISTIANS, JEWS, MUSLIMS, NONBELIEVERS, BLACK,
WHITE, STRAIGHT, GAY FROM ALL OVER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE HAVE A VETERAN POPULATION -- OR STRIKE THAT, A BOARD
POPULATION THAT REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF OUR WONDERFUL
VETERAN POPULATION.
11:17:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE DO THAT WITH NINE?
13 SEEMS LIKE A BIG COMMITTEE.
11:17:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I THINK THAT IS FINE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ABOUT THE NUMBER WE HAVE NOW FOR EXISTING
BOARDS.
YOU ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GET AT MEETINGS TWO OR THREE WHO
HAVE CONCURRENT COMMITMENTS THAT PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING AS
INVOLVED.
IF WE PUT IT DOWN TO EIGHT, IT WILL REALLY BE FIVE.
WHEREAS IF WE DO IT TO 13, IT PROBABLY WILL BE TEN.
11:18:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M THINKING 9.
11:18:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I LIKE 13, AND THIS IS WHY.
IT GIVES THE MAYOR A CHANCE TO APPOINT A GOOD NUMBER.
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO THROUGH US CAN ALSO GO
THROUGH THE MAYOR AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
AGAIN, YOU'LL ALWAYS GET TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
GOING TO BE INVOLVED.

IF YOU DO NINE, THAT'S REALLY SIX OR SEVEN.
I THINK THAT ALSO HAVING A GOOD NUMBER, AGAIN, OUR VETERAN
POPULATION IS EXTREMELY DIVERSE, PHILOSOPHICALLY IN EVERY
WHICH WAY.
IF YOU GET THAT 13, WHATEVER NUMBER IT IS AROUND THERE, I
THINK IT GIVES YOU A GOOD POOL TO GO FISHING FROM, IF THAT
MAKES SENSE.
11:18:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
11:18:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO SECOND IT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING ABOUT THE RATIO AND SO FORTH.
HE'S RIGHT, SOME PEOPLE CAN'T SHOW UP EVERY MEETING FOR ONE
REASON OR ANOTHER.
11:18:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT MAY BE THE NEXT
MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMPA SITTING HERE.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
I AM NOT RUNNING.
11:19:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SAY THAT, AGAIN, I MEAN, IF 13 DOESN'T
WORK, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.
IF HE MODELED IT BASED ON OTHER COMMITTEES.
AND I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT ONE THING I DO LIKE, WHEN THERE
IS A COMMITTEE WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTS A PERSON,
I ALWAYS FIND THAT I'M A LITTLE MORE ATTACHED TO THAT
COMMITTEE, MEANING I TRY TO REACH OUT TO MY PERSON, WHETHER
OR NOT THEY RESPOND IS UP TO THEM.
BUT I AT LEAST TRY.

IN THAT REGARD, I DO UNDERSTAND AND LIKE HIS PROPOSAL.
AND WITH ALL THE CHANGES WITH ONLY FOUR, I'M HAPPY WITH
THAT.
11:19:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:19:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I DON'T CARE WHETHER IT'S 9 OR 13 AS
LONG AS CITY COUNCIL HAS 7.
I THINK EVERY COMMITTEE GOING FORWARD AND I WISH THIS WAS IN
THE CHARTER, I THINK EVERY COMMITTEE GOING FORWARD SHOULD
HAVE ONE FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
COUNCIL REPRESENTS THE DIVERSE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY,
AND IF WE END UP WITH LESS THAN SEVEN, WE END UP ESSENTIALLY
WITH ZERO BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE APPLICANTS
COME FROM.
AND SO THIS WAY WE HAVE THE ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE
REPRESENTING ALL THE COMMUNITY.
11:20:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOUNDS GOOD.
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
CARROLL ANN POYNOR.
11:20:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
SO I MADE THE COMMENT BECAUSE THAT IS A COMMENT THAT MY
HUSBAND MADE TO ME YESTERDAY WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT.
I STILL THINK THIS SHOULD BE MAJORITY VETERANS.

I ALSO HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH ANY OF YOU SAYING, OH, WELL,
IF NOBODY SHOWS UP.
I'M SORRY, BUT WE HAVE A BUDGET COMMITTEE.
AND OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE, WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS OF
ATTENDANCE.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO MAY NOT SHOW UP
ALL THE TIME, TELL THEM TO STAY HOME.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU CAN TELL THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AND
DON'T SAY A WORD FOR THE FOUR-HOUR-LONG MEETING TO STAY
HOME, TOO.
I ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE FOLKS WHO NOMINATED THAT
PEOPLE.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN CONTROL HOW MANY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE
ON THERE IF YOU ARE NOT NOMINATING BUT ONE PERSON.
I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE MAYOR NEEDS SIX PEOPLE ON
THIS COMMITTEE.
YOU GUYS EACH GET ONE.
SHE CAN HAVE TWO, FOUR, BUT SIX.
AND DID YOU READ IT?
BECAUSE FIVE OF HER SIX ARE GOING TO BE FOR THREE YEARS AND
SHE'S GONE NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WHY DOES SHE GET TO NOMINATE THOSE PEOPLE?
BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET RID OF THOSE PEOPLE IS WITH

CAUSE.
THERE SHOULD BE AN ATTENDANCE RULE, AS SOMEBODY WHO IS ON
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
NOTHING MORE IRRITATING THAN NOT HAVING A QUORUM BECAUSE
PEOPLE DON'T BOTHER TO SHOW UP.
THAT NEEDS TO BE ABSOLUTELY IN EVERY COMMITTEE WHATSOEVER.
IT DOESN'T SAY HOW OFTEN THIS COMMITTEE IS SUPPOSED TO MEET.
THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
WHO IS GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS COMMITTEE, WHO IS GOING
TO BABY SIT IT FROM THE CITY?
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BABYSITTER.
HAGAR BABY SITS THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
BEFORE THAT IT WAS CORENCIA AND MARTY.
IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
I HAVE FRIENDS SAID, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT'S OKAY IF YOU
ARE A SPOUSE.
I'M A 30-YEAR SPOUSE.
30 YEARS SPENT BEING A MILITARY SPOUSE BUT I NEVER, EVER PUT
ON THAT UNIFORM. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN
A COMBAT SITUATION.
I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE TO NOT BE ABLE TO SLEEP AT
NIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAVE PTSD.
I CANNOT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
I AM NOT A VETERAN.
MY MOTHER WAS A VETERAN, BUT I AM NOT A VETERAN.

SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
ONE OR TWO MAYBE.
BUT I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S SET UP BECAUSE VETERANS
DESERVE THE RESPECT OF BEING VETERANS.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME, IF THEY WANT TO BE A GOLD STAR,
IF THEY WANT TO BE A SPOUSE AND THEY WANT TO COME AND
CONTRIBUTE, FINE.
THAT'S WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS FOR.
BUT THIS BOARD IS CALLED THE VETERANS BOARD.
YOU ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY VETERANS ON THIS COUNCIL EITHER.
I LOVE ALL YOU ALL, BUT YOU'RE NOT VETERANS, NOR AM I.
I CAN NEVER, EVER CLAIM TO BE A VETERAN, EVEN THOUGH I'VE
SPENT THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS WITH MY VETERAN.
AND I SPEND SUMMERS WITH WARRIORS SAILING.
IT'S LIKE, I'D RATHER SPEND A WEEK WITH FIFTH GRADERS.
BUT HAVE A GOOD DAY.
THANK YOU.
11:24:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:24:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TWO THINGS, AND I WANT TO SAY THIS.
I KNOW MS. POYNOR KNOWS THIS.
HER HUSBAND IS A RETIRED LIEUTENANT COLONEL.

WHEN I SAY FAMILIES IN THIS CONTEXT, I MEAN GOLD STAR
FAMILIES ARE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.
THAT IS FAMILIES WHO LOST A LOVED ONE DUE TO THEIR MILITARY
SERVICE, COMBAT OR OTHERWISE.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO LOST SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN MILITARY
SERVICE, NOT JUST FAMILY MEMBERS.
AGAIN, THAT'S GOLD STAR FAMILIES IN TERMS OF THIS.
I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSION.
ORIGINALLY IT SAID FAMILY MEMBERS, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN THAT
OUT.
IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE, MR. BRODY THAT IS A GOOD POINT.
IS THAT IN THE ORDINANCE OR CAN COUNCIL MAKE THAT A RULE?
11:24:56AM >>CARL BRODY:
NO.
WE DON'T DO THAT IN ONS.
WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND BOARDS, AND THOSE ARE
ALWAYS DONE INTERNALLY BY THEIR RULES, POLICIES, THEIR
BYLAWS.
AND IF THEY DETERMINE THAT THERE IS A PERSON THAT IS NOT
PARTICIPATING FULLY, THEN THEY CONTACT EITHER THE MAYOR OR
THE CITY COUNCIL.
11:25:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
AGAIN, I'M FINE WITH IT AS IS.
I THINK THIS IS GREAT AND I'M PREPARED TO READ IT, IF I MAY.
11:25:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
11:25:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

I DO TEND TO AGREE WITH THE APPOINTMENT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP,
THE FACT THAT ALL COUNCIL IS GETTING IS AN INITIAL ONE-YEAR
TERM AND THEN TWO-YEAR TERMS AND THE MAYOR IS GETTING ALL
THE THREE-YEAR TERMS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TAKING IT DOWN TO FOUR MEMBERS
FOR THE MAYOR.
LIKE, I REALLY WOULD PREFER AT THIS POINT MAYBE TO GET SOME
OF THESE IDEAS PUT TOGETHER.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SAY THAT THESE BYLAWS OR WHATEVER
ARE CREATED BY THE BOARD, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE.
I DO TEND TO AGREE, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH BOARDS BECAUSE
PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP TO THEM.
SO I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO START PUTTING THEM IN THE
ACTUAL ORDINANCE THEMSELVES.
THE ORDINANCE IS CHANGEABLE BY COUNCIL WHENEVER, BUT THE
PROBLEM IS, WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THIS TO GO UNDER.
WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WATCHING IT.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN.
SO I CAN'T GO AND REACH OUT TO VETERANS I KNOW AND ASK THEM
TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL THEM HOW OFTEN
IT MEETS, WHERE IT'S GOING TO MEET, WHERE IT'S UNDER.
SO PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THIS FOR TWO MORE WEEKS
AND GET MORE OF THE ANSWERS.
I SUPPORT THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT WHEN I'M GOING TO REACH
OUT TO A VETERAN THAT I KNOW, THAT IS THE FIRST QUESTION

THEY ARE GOING TO ASK ME.
I APOLOGIZE.
I DID NOT GET THE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.
I STILL FEEL AWFUL.
I REALLY LOVE THIS AND I TRULY SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE YOU
BRINGING THIS FORWARD, BUT I WANT THIS TO BE A SUCCESS FROM
DAY ONE.
11:27:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ENTERTAIN MOVING THIS TO APRIL 16 BACK TO
FIRST READING?
11:27:24AM >>CARL BRODY:
IF I CAN MAKE ONE POINT, THE ORDINANCE
SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES THAT THIS GROUP MEETS QUARTERLY.
11:27:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:27:31AM >>CARL BRODY:
CARL BRODY, LEGAL.
THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES THAT THIS GROUP IS GOING
TO MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY.
SO I'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT THERE'S NO STANDARD FOR
THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR MEETINGS A YEAR, AND
THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO PROVIDE A BROADER
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS COMMITTEE, OR JUST GENERALLY, HOW
THE LAW WILL APPLY.
YOU HAVE THE COMMITTEES IN PLACE SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE
THEIR OWN SPECIFIC INTERNAL RULES OF HOW THEY WANT TO
OPERATE.
PUTTING THAT KIND OF GRANULAR SPECIFICS IN THE ORDINANCE IS

GOING TO BECOME OVERLY BURDENSOME I THINK FOR THE COMMITTEE
AND FOR YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME
BACK EVERY TIME IF ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS CONCERNED
THAT, OH, THIS PROVISION OF THE ORDINANCE IS REQUIRING ME TO
MAKE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEETINGS, BUT DOESN'T CLARIFY THAT
IF I'M SICK, I CAN'T MAKE A MEETING, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN
SOME OUTCOME THAT'S CODIFIED.
WE DON'T LIKE TO PUT THOSE KIND OF REQUIREMENTS, THOSE KIND
OF INTERNAL PROCEDURE REQUIREMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AT THAT LEVEL.
11:28:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN BUILD THAT IN.
OUR OFFICE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADD SOME COMMENTS.
MAYBE WE CAN GO FROM ESPECIALLY MOST RECENTLY THE CHARTER
REVIEW COMMISSION HAS GREAT RULES FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO START IMPLEMENTING THAT, BECAUSE
OTHERWISE, WE END UP WITH CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COUNCIL
WHICH HAS TAKEN TEN YEARS TO SETTLE INTO BEING SOMETHING.
AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO NOT SHOW UP FOR THIS.
I WANT THIS TO BE EFFECTIVE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK IT'S A
COMMITTEE BASED ON WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER, WHAT THE ELECTEDS
PUT TOGETHER, NOT BY THE POWER OF THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HOLD THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON IT NOW.
11:29:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

11:29:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SIMILAR COMMENTS THAT I HAVE HAD TO THE
CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE AUTONOMY.
IF WE WANT TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE, WE COULD MAYBE
DO IT IN A SEPARATE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL THE
COMMITTEES.
BUT THEY MEET QUARTERLY, IF THEY WANT TO MEET MORE OFTEN,
SET THEIR OWN RULES, GO AHEAD, AND WE CAN GIVE ADVICE.
WHEN I APPOINT SOMEONE, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO
SAY.
AND I MIGHT DISAGREE WITH THEM.
I OFTEN DISAGREE WITH MY APPOINTEES, BUT I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT
THEY SAY BECAUSE THEY REFLECT THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD BE OKAY IF WE MOVE FORWARD JUST REMINDING THE
CHANGES.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SUGGESTED THAT WE CHANGE THE MAYOR'S
DOWN TO FOUR, WHICH I AGREE WITH.
ALSO, THAT WE MAKE THEM ALL ONE-YEAR TERMS.
I THINK I HEARD THAT.
AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SUGGESTED VETERANS AND GOLD
STAR FAMILIES, BUT NOT OTHERS.
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, AS WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS
TALKING ABOUT THIS, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT
THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND STAFF, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA
ESPECIALLY WORKING ON THIS MAYBE THREE, FOUR YEARS, A LONG,

LONG TIME, AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT INSIGHT, THE VETERANS
AND CURRENT ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO
OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT, AND THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED SO
MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
SENSITIVE TO THEM AND THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CARE TO
THEIR NEEDS.
BUSINESS GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY HELP WITH THE TRANSITION
FROM MacDILL TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR BECAUSE WE TRY TO
KEEP AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE HERE.
THEY ARE ALREADY VETTED BY THE MILITARY.
THEY ARE SMART.
THEY CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND COUNTRY AND GREAT TO KEEP
THEM HERE.
THANK YOU.
11:31:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN VIERA.
11:31:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
FROM LISTENING, AND I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE CONVERSATION,
BUT IF IT IS A 13 COMMITTEE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO
SHARE IT AND HOW IT WORKS.
I THINK THE MAYOR, WHOEVER THE MAYOR IS, HAS THREE -- ONE
FOR ONE YEAR, ONE FOR TWO YEARS, AND ONE FOR THREE YEARS.
THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ONE EACH, WHICH IS SEVEN.
THAT'S TEN.
AND THE OTHER THREE ARE CHOSEN BY THE TOTAL COUNCIL.

THAT WAY YOU HAVE THE 13 COVERED.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
11:32:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:32:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS THE MOTION I'M GOING TO MAKE, IF I
MAY, WHICH IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTS THIS TWO WEEKS, I'M
OKAY WITH THAT.
AS A COURTESY, GLAD FOR THAT.
TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THIS, COUNCIL.
I'M GOING TO ASK MR. BRODY, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD
WORK ON THIS, SIR, TO BRING THIS BACK ON APRIL 16 AS
FOLLOWS, NUMBER ONE, TO PUT INCLUSION OF THIS FOR VETERANS
AND GOLD STAR FAMILY MEMBERS, NO MORE THAN FOUR, FOR GOLD
STARS.
AGAIN, I DON'T THINK REACH THAT BUT NEVER KNOW.
AND THEN --
11:32:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEARD ONE-YEAR TERMS.
11:32:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
ONE-YEAR TERMS TO BE REAPPOINTED.
11:32:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE REACH OUT TO MR. BRODY WITH OTHER
SUGGESTIONS?
11:32:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, YEAH.
11:32:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE.
11:32:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IN TERMS OF THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE,
JUST KNOW THIS, COUNCIL, THAT IF WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE
APPOINTMENT, WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, I'M FINE WITH

THAT.
IT WILL TAKE TIME OF COUNCIL TO HEAR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY,
BUT WITH THAT, I'M WILLING TO SAY MAYOR GETS THREE
APPOINTMENTS, COUNCIL GETS THREE, COLLECTIVELY, AND THEN ONE
INDIVIDUALLY.
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
11:33:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD RATHER LET THE MAYOR HAVE FOUR AND
HAVE COUNCIL EACH CHOOSE ONE.
11:33:30AM >> FOUR, SEVEN TWO.
11:33:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE ALTERNATE PER EACH.
11:33:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF COUNCIL WISHES IT, THAT'S FINE.
11:33:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME PUT THIS IN SUMMARY.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS TO APRIL 16, BACK TO FIRST
READING.
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'LL STICK WITH THE COMPOSITION
THAT YOU INITIALLY PROPOSED OF 7 COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, ONE
EACH WITH FOUR MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL.
11:34:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO SIX IN THE ORIGINAL.
11:34:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SORRY.
SEVEN AND FOUR.
ONE-YEAR TERMS.
AND THAT NO MORE -- OF THOSE SEVEN AND FOUR, NO MORE THAN
FOUR WILL BE GOLD STAR FAMILIES.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

LET ME ADDRESS THE RULE THING.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHO SAID THAT.
I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT WE ESTABLISH STANDARD RULES
FOR ALL COMMITTEES.
11:34:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE WITH THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE BRAIN POWER TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
SOMEONE ELSE CAN DO THAT TODAY.
MY BIGGER CONCERN IS THE STAGGERING.
I DO THINK THAT ONE YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO BE ON A
COMMITTEE.
THIS IS WHY GOING FORWARD, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE
TO TALK TO MR. BRODY ABOUT WHERE I DO THINK STAGGERED TERMS
ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONE YEAR IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO CREATE
THE CONSISTENCY THAT IS NEEDED.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH STARTING WITH ONE, TWO, AND
THREE-YEAR STAGGERED TERMS.
I WILL EVEN CHOOSE TO BE A ONE-YEAR TERM IF IT'S AN ISSUE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO START STAGGERING AND MAYBE
HAVE THEM THREE-YEAR TERMS, BUT FOR THOSE OF US SITTING UP
HERE, WE ONLY GET ONE OR TWO OR THREE RANDOMLY CHOSEN.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M EVEN MAKING SENSE AT THIS POINT.
I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THREE-YEAR TERMS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CONTINUITY.
BUT I DO BELIEVE AT THE BEGINNING WE'LL HAVE TO STAGGER

THEM.
SOMEONE WILL BE STUCK WITH A ONE-YEAR OR A TWO-YEAR
APPOINTEE.
11:35:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT
GOING TO BE HERE.
SO I THINK THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY --
11:35:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOWEVER IT WORKS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT ONE-YEAR TERMS ARE NOT OKAY.
AGAIN, THAT'S MY --
11:35:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN WE FINISH WITH THE BUSINESS, I THINK
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A VOLUNTEER TO BRING FORWARD FOR
BUSINESS ON APRIL 16 WITH THE PROPOSED RULES FOR ALL
STANDING COMMITTEES.
11:36:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, FIRST OF ALL, THE
NEXT MEETING IS GOING TO BE FRANKLY -- WHEN IS THE DEADLINE
TO PUT IN THINGS FOR THE APRIL 16 MEETING?
11:36:16AM >>CARL BRODY:
VERY SOON.
11:36:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT WILL BE VERY SOON.
11:36:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:36:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT I'M SAYING, THOUGH, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO NEED
DIRECTION.
ARE YOU REFERRING TO STANDING BOARDS?
ARE YOU REFERRING TO BOARDS THAT ARE DECISION MAKING BOARDS?
THE MAYOR HAS A LOT OF COMMITTEES THAT ARE NOT CREATED BY

ORDINANCE.
THIS IS BEING CREATED BY ORDINANCE.
THOSE THAT ARE CODIFIED?
IT'S A GREATER DISCUSSION.
11:36:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HAVE THE GREATER DISCUSSION.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMEBODY TO VOLUNTEER.
ANYWAYS, I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO CONTINUE
THIS APRIL 16 BACK TO FIRST READING WITH THOSE SUGGESTED
CHANGES.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD.
IN REFERENCE TO THAT, AGAIN, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF SOMEBODY
WOULD PICK UP THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BRING BACK FOR NEW
BUSINESS AT LEAST THE PROPOSALS AND TRY TO INTRODUCE
SOMETHING FOR A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR COMMITTEES.
OKAY, VERY GOOD.
ITEM NUMBER 23.
YOU'RE BACK, AS PROMISED.
11:37:20AM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

11:37:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:37:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS JUST GOING TO MOVE THE ORDINANCE.
11:37:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO
ITEM 23?
OF COURSE.
REMEMBER, I'M TRYING TO GET OUT BY LUNCH.
AND WE HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AT LUNCH.
11:37:43AM >> MR. PERRY IS A VETERAN.
ASK HIM.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I WANT TO WHOLLY SUPPORT THIS.
WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THIS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE
THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD NOT HAVE PAID OUT ALMOST $2
MILLION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS FOR DEVELOPERS TO PUT IN
WHATEVER THEY NEED FOR WATER, WASTEWATER.
WE HAVE A HUGE, HUGE BOND THING RIGHT NOW THAT'S GOING TO
COME INTO AND GET ROLLED AROUND IN '29.
LET'S USE THIS MONEY INSTEAD OF USING THE $2 MILLION TO PAY
FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR US.
GO FIGURE.
LET'S USE THAT TO PAY OFF SOME OF THAT DEBT.
THANK YOU.
11:38:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.

11:38:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MYLES, A LIFETIME GENERATIONAL
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CONCERNED CITIZEN AND AN ALMOST 30-YEAR
CITY EMPLOYEE WHO PASSIONATELY LOVES OUR COUNTY.
TODAY I STAND BEFORE YOU ON PERSONAL TIME DURING WATER
CONSERVATION MONTH, HOLY WEEK, AND DROUGHT CONDITIONS TO
BRING AWARENESS ABOUT A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CPA 25-37 WHICH
IN MY OPINION MAY GREATLY IMPACT THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THE TAMPA BAY REGION RESIDENTS'
WATER SUPPLY.
11:39:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE RATE INCREASE.
11:39:24AM >> CORRECT.
AND IT WILL AFFECT -- COULD POSSIBLY.
SO PLEASE KNOW THAT.
ON FEBRUARY 9, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED
THAT THE PLAN -- THE 7,944 ACRES OF PLANNED ENVIRONMENTAL
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COULD POSSIBLY IMPACT -- I'M SORRY.
YOU THREW ME FOR A SECOND.
11:39:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME.
11:40:00AM >> ON FEBRUARY 9, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY PLANNING
COMMISSION VOTED AND RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF HC CPA-25-37.
APPROXIMATELY 30 SPEAKERS WERE THERE TO RAISE THEIR
ENVIRONMENTAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT CONCERNS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, DESPITE VALID OBJECTIONS FROM BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, VALID OBJECTIONS BOARD OF COUNTY

COMMISSIONERS, ALONG WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE
POWER TO OVERRULE WHAT COULD BE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY FROM
704 DWELLING UNITS TO ALMOST 4,000 IN EASTERN HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS THIS COULD AFFECT OUR WATER
SUPPLY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AS THIS RURAL AREA IS WITHIN
HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND THE TAMPA BYPASS CANAL LOCATION.
DURING YOUR LUNCH BREAK, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CLOSELY
READ RORY JONES' STATE OF THE RIVER UPDATE WHICH HE E-MAILED
LAST NIGHT ON APRIL 1st AT 8 P.M.
THIS IS NO APRIL FOOLS JOKE.
SHOULD OUR AGENCIES NOT WORK TOGETHER CLOSELY TO PROTECT
THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND TRUSTING TAXPAYERS, OUR NATURAL
RESOURCES ARE PUT INTO JEOPARDY.
WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY AND PROVIDE ESSENTIAL WATER
AND WASTEWATER SERVICES TO A DEVELOPER WHO KNOWINGLY DOES
NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WATER OR WASTEWATER SERVICES.
WILL IT BE THE CITY WHO IS ASKED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS TO PROVIDE THAT?
WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY APPROVE THIS, THEY START BUILDING, SO
WE JUST GO AHEAD AND THEN PROVIDE THEM AT WHOSE COST?
SO IN CLOSING, I WOULD PLEASE ASK YOU TO REVIEW THE FACTS OF
HC CPA 35-25, MY APOLOGIES, 37, AND FACT CHECK IF THE
DETAILS THAT I HAVE JUST SHARED WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE
CITY'S CITIZENS AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER WITHIN THE

CITY AS WELL AS THE COUNTY AND OUR REGION.
I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICES.
11:42:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK?
[INAUDIBLE]
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
I'M THINKING PRESS RELEASE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:43:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 26,
ARTICLE I, SECTION 26-31, UTILITY RATES, FEES AND CHARGES
AND SECTION 26-37, WATER CAPACITY FEE, BY INCREASING THE
WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY FEES, BY REMOVING CONFLICTING
AND OUTDATED PORTIONS OF SECTION 26-31, UTILITY RATES, FEES,
AND CHARGES, BY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:44:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:44:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE -- YEAH,
RECEIVE ITEMS 25, 29, AND 30.
11:44:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS THEN.
11:44:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.
THE RESOLUTIONS.
25, 29, AND 30.
11:44:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR 25,
29, AND 30, TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
11:44:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE ON 25
SEPARATELY.
11:44:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEPARATE THAT OUT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE ITEM 25.
11:44:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE.
11:44:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
11:44:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
11:44:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK.
11:44:55AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH --
11:45:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT?
I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.
11:45:03AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH --
11:45:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARLSON VOTING NO.

11:45:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU HAVE TO SAY HIS LAST NAME.
11:45:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIX YESES AND ONE NO FROM COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
THE RESOLUTION PASSES.
11:45:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEMS 29 AND 30.
11:45:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 29 AND 30 FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
LET'S GO TO 14 AND 15.
I PULLED IT.
11:45:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY?
11:45:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I PULLED THOSE ONLY BECAUSE -- I MEAN, I'M
SENSITIVE AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE BRIEFING AND EMPATHETIC
WITH STAFF'S POSITION ON THIS.
SIMILAR TO PUBLIC, WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT,
THESE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED MULTIPLE TIMES.
I GET SOME EXTENDED NOW BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS WITH
THEIR FINANCE GROUP AND REQUIRED THEIR -- STIPULATIONS
REQUIRED BY THEIR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE FINANCING
THE PROGRAM.
WHEN IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?

I THINK I'M PAST THE POINT THAT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:46:33AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'VE BEEN AGAINST THIS CONTRACT SINCE THE
BEGINNING BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT'S DONE.
THE COMMUNITY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
THE COMMUNITY -- PART OF THE COMMUNITY ATTITUDE AND FEELING
IS THAT THIS CONTRACT, THIS ORGANIZATION GETS SPECIAL
TREATMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FORMER MAYOR WHO IS A
LOBBYIST, AND THE MAYOR'S PARTNER'S FIRM IS A LOBBYING FIRM
FOR THIS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY IN THIS AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN MOVING FASTER.
IF THIS WAS ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION, THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD
HAVE FIRED THEM BY NOW.
11:47:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER COMMENT?
11:47:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE ENTITY AS WELL
AS STAFF ON THIS, AMONG OTHER THINGS BEFORE PROCEEDING.
11:47:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST?
11:47:21AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
BE CLEAR, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS PHASE HAS BEEN
EXTENDED.
PHASING AND TIMING PLAN HAS BEEN EXTENDED THREE TIMES BEFORE
BUT FOR OTHER PHASES.
AS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH AND DEVELOPING THE PHASES, THAT'S
WHERE THEY ARE EXTENDING IT FOR THE FINANCING FOR THIS

PHASE.
SO THIS PARTICULAR PHASE, PHASE FOUR, EVER SINCE THE FIRST
APPROVAL ON APRIL 20, 2023, THE COMPLETION DATE HAS BEEN
DECEMBER OF 2027.
NOW WE'RE EXTENDING IT TO SEPTEMBER OF 2028.
BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, AGAIN, FOR THIS PHASE THAT THIS
HAS BEEN EXTENDED.
THE DEVELOPER CAN EXPLAIN MORE.
11:48:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
POTATO, POTATO.
STILL ACCUMULATES INTO MULTIPLE EXTENSIONS.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
11:48:09AM >> ALBERT MILO, PRESIDENT OF RELATED URBAN.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE INITIAL DELAYS -- THIS HAS TWO SITES.
NORTH PARCEL AND SOUTH PARCEL.
IF YOU RECALL, WHEN I WAS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL
PREVIOUSLY, THE NORTH PARCEL HAD A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
CHALLENGES.
IT TOOK OVER A YEAR AND A HALF JUST TO GET THE APPROVALS TO
CLEAN UP THE SITE.
WE'VE CLEANED UP THAT SITE AND THAT'S WHY WE STARTED WITH
PHASE 3A.
ALSO TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMUNITY
BENEFITS THAT ARE PART OF PHASE 3A THAT ARE UNDER
CONSTRUCTION NOW, IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY THE SITE, WE'RE

ALREADY UP ON THE 8th FLOOR.
OVER 3,000-SQUARE-FOOT WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER UNDER
CONSTRUCTION.
FIVE LIVE-WORK UNITS, PART OF 3A, THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THERE WERE ALSO SOME MENTIONS ABOUT THE CBA AND THE FACT
THAT WE HAD SLIPPED ON THAT.
WE HAD A 40% COMMITMENT FOR SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESSES
THERE.
WE'RE GLAD TO REPORT THAT WE'VE EXCEEDED THAT WITH 52%.
WE ALSO HAD A 40% COMMITMENT FOR LOCAL HIRES FOR CITY OF
TAMPA.
WE'RE AT 43% ON THAT.
SO THIS IS JUST TO ALIGN TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, OUR
LENDERS ARE THE FINANCING FOR PHASE FOUR.
IT'S A $94 MILLION PROJECT.
IT'S FULLY SECURED, INCLUDING OUR INVESTMENT OF OVER $3
MILLION INTO THIS PHASE.
STATE MONIES IS APPROVED.
WE'RE FINALIZING OUR BUILDING PERMITS, AND WE'LL BE CLOSING
NEXT MONTH AND STARTING ANOTHER 230 AFFORDABLE HOUSING
UNITS.
YOU'RE CORRECT.
MATTER OF ALIGNING THAT BECAUSE OF THE PERMITTING AND
LENDER.
AS SOON AS WE GET THE PERMIT, WE CLOSE.

THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT.
11:49:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, I KIND OF UNDERSTAND.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN -- I DON'T KNOW
IF WE WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANY OTHER ENTITY THE KIND OF GRACE
THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GIVEN.
11:50:10AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS DEVELOPER WAS THE ONLY
DEVELOPER THAT RESPONDED TO THE RFP THAT DIDN'T WANT MONEY
FROM THE CITY.
11:50:20AM >> AND TO THAT POINT, MR. CHAIR, PHASE ONE REQUIRED A TWO
AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT FROM US.
PART OF THE MONEY WAS 500 AND SOME ODD DOLLARS THAT WENT TO
HELP THE HOMELESS SITE.
THE NEXT PHASE ALSO HAS ANOTHER CONTRIBUTION THAT HELPS WITH
THAT, AND IT REQUIRES A $3 MILLION INVESTMENT ON OUR PART,
TOO.
NOT ONLY CLEAN UP THE SITE, WHICH, AGAIN, HAD A LOT OF
CHALLENGES, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD TO INVEST OUR OWN FUNDS IN
THERE TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING AND HELP WITH THE OTHER
AFFORDABILITY.
11:50:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MUCH OF THE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY WITH
THE RIVERFRONT, AND YOU'VE GOT THIS ONE AND THE OTHER
ENTITY, ANOTHER PARCEL DOWNTOWN DEPENDING ON RIVERWALK.
SO MUCH OF THIS WITH THE DELAYS OF THE PROJECT, IT'S

DELAYING BIGGER ISSUES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, TOO.
THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN, IS THAT IT'S SO INTEGRATED WITH
SO MANY OTHER THINGS.
SO WE'RE KIND OF -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY HOLD HOSTAGE, BUT
THESE PROJECTS ARE BEING DELAYED BECAUSE OF DELAYS IN THIS.
11:51:21AM >> THIS PORTION OF THE RIVERWALK IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
11:51:24AM >> YEAH.
11:51:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN IS THE COMPLETION ON THAT?
11:51:27AM >> SLATED ON JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
PART OF THE CONNECTION TO THE RIVERWALK IS PART OF OUR
PROJECT.
SO WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, THERE WOULD BE AN
INCOMPLETE PORTION OF THE RIVERWALK.
THAT'S PART OF OUR AGREEMENT IS TO HELP YOU GUYS FINISH A
PORTION OF THAT.
11:51:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
I HAVE COMPLETELY LOST TRACK.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:51:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, NO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE REASON WHY I'VE BEEN AGAINST THE
WEST RIVERWALK, BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, PUBLIC
FEELS THAT THE WEST RIVERWALK IS A PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR
THE DEVELOPER.
THEY OWN THREE OR FOUR PARCELS ALONG THAT SECTION.
THE MAYOR HAS HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS MULTIPLE

YEARS, NEVER DISCLOSED IT AND NEVER DONE ANYTHING TO RECTIFY
IT.
THE MAYOR WAS INVOLVED IN THE RFP, FORMER MAYOR WAS INVOLVED
IN IT.
AND THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT THIS SMELLS.
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE LIGHT SHINED ON ALL THIS.
NOT FAIR TO OTHER DEVELOPERS, NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT
FAIR TO INDIVIDUALS WHO CAN'T GET THEIR PERMITS BECAUSE THEY
FEEL LIKE CERTAIN COMPANIES ARE GETTING A BENEFIT BECAUSE
FORMER MAYOR AND MAYOR'S PARTNER'S FIRM ARE LOBBYING.
IT'S NOT FAIR AND THEY ARE NOT REGISTERING AS LOBBYISTS, BY
THE WAY, EITHER.
THEY ARE NOT ADMITTING THEY ARE LOBBYISTS.
THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE ADVOCATES INSTEAD OF LOBBYISTS.
WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN UP THIS UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
11:52:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. JOHNS.
REMIND ME AGAIN, WHAT WAS THE CONTINUANCE SOUGHT, THE
EXTENSION TIMEWISE?
11:53:06AM >> WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TODAY, IT IS FROM DECEMBER OF 2027
TO SEPTEMBER OF 2028.
11:53:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND IF WE WERE TO VOTE THAT DOWN, WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN TO THE PROJECT?
IF WE WERE TO VOTE THIS DOWN, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

11:53:24AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
THAT'S MORE OF A BETTER QUESTION FOR HIM.
11:53:28AM >> IT WOULD STOP.
11:53:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
SO, AGAIN, FOLKS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BRINGING UP ISSUES,
WHEN I SAY ISSUES OF THE PAST, I DON'T MEAN ISSUES OF THE
PAST THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT.
I'M NOT SAYING, OH, NOTHING IS RELEVANT.
FOR ME, THE DISPOSITIVE ISSUE, DO WE WANT THIS TO GO
FORWARD?
AND THERE IS A WORLD WHERE WE APPROVE THIS AND THEN WE HAVE
AN UPDATE WITHIN X AMOUNT OF TIME ON THE CONTINUANCE IN
TERMS OF WHAT IS BEING DONE TO MITIGATE THAT CONTINUANCE.
THERE IS A WORLD FOR THAT.
11:53:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG FOLLOWED BY
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:54:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TWO QUESTIONS.
THE MINORITY BUSINESSES THAT YOU ARE USING, IS THERE ANY WAY
THAT A LIST OF THOSE BUSINESSES COULD BE PROVIDED?
11:54:12AM >> SURE.
WE CAN PROVIDE A REPORT AFTER THE MEETING TO YOUR OFFICE.
NOT A PROBLEM.
11:54:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MY SECOND QUESTION, SO THE -- HAS THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT CHANGED AT ALL SINCE 2025?
IT IS THE SAME DOCUMENT?
OKAY.

11:54:29AM >> SAME DOCUMENT.
11:54:30AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IS THAT POSSIBLE -- MY THIRD QUESTION IS,
COULD WE PUT IN SOME KIND OF PROGRESS REPORT IF WE ARE TO
AGREE SO EVERY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE OR SIX MONTHS,
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STAYING TO DATE WITH THAT
PROJECT TIMELINE?
11:54:48AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
THEY DO DO PROGRESS REPORTS, BUT WE CAN ADD
IN SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO COUNCIL OR WHATEVER.
WE CAN DO THAT.
11:55:00AM >> WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW YOUR PREFERENCE.
WHETHER BIANNUALLY OR QUARTERLY.
EITHER-OR WE CAN DO IT AND MAKE SURE COUNCIL GETS COPIED ON
THAT.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS READY TO CLOSE THIS PHASE.
IT'S OVER $94 MILLION AND 230 UNITS OF ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IN THE CITY.
11:55:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:55:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
MANY YEARS AGO, PART OF THAT AREA FROM NORTH AND SOUTH ON
THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PORTION I BELIEVE OF THE PROPERTY,
IT WAS CALLED THE ROME YARD.
IT WAS CALLED THE ROME YARD BECAUSE THE CITY USED IT FOR
DUMP TRUCKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THE POLLUTION CAME BY YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR
MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

I HAD LONG HAIR THEN.
NOW IT'S KIND OF NOT THAT LONG.
THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S ONE -- AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT
TOOK TO CLEAN ALL THAT.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON EXCAVATION AND MOVING DIRT AND GETTING
THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE PERMITS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
ONE THING I WOULD NEVER DO IS MAKE ACCUSATIONS OF ANYTHING,
INNUENDOS, WHETHER THERE ARE FACTS OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER WAS HERE WHEN ALL THAT WAS GOING ON.
I'VE BEEN HERE, GO BACK WHEN MOBY DICK WAS A MINNOW HERE IN
TAMPA, FLORIDA, WHEN THERE WAS NO RIVERWALK.
WASN'T A DAMN THING DOWNTOWN GOING ON BUT DRUG DEALING,
PROSTITUTION, AND EMPTY STREETS.
YOU COULD CROSS THE STREET ANYWHERE YOU WANTED, YOU COULD DO
WHATEVER YOU WANTED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE LIVING HERE.
THAT CHANGED DURING THE TIME OF INDIVIDUALS GETTING
TOGETHER, BOTH ADMINISTRATIVELY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
DOING THINGS THEY HAD TO DO, THEY THOUGHT.
WE ARE NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY IN
HOTEL OCCUPANCY.
THEY DON'T COME SEE ME.
THEY DON'T COME SEE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEY DON'T COME SEE THE MAYOR EITHER.
THEY COME AND SEE BECAUSE THIS CITY IS INTRIGUED BY
INDIVIDUALS SAYING WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THEY DOING THAT WE

DON'T HAVE WHERE I LIVE.
WHEN THEY COME HERE, MOST OF THEM USE THE RIVERWALK ON A
DAILY BASIS.
THAT RIVERWALK IS -- DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, NOT I, HUNDREDS
OF IS THAT WORKED IN THE CITY ON AND OFF IN THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE AND ON AND OFF ON THIS COUNCIL TO GET WHAT'S GOING ON
DONE.
IF YOU GO BACK IN HISTORY, THE STRAZ CENTER WAS EVEN
REGARDED AND VOTED DOWN BY THE CITIZENS.
BUT ONE MAYOR SAY WE'LL BUILD IT.
THE STRAZ CENTER IS ANOTHER GOLD STAR IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THERE WERE NO MUSEUMS DOWNTOWN.
THERE WAS SKID ROW.
THE TAMPA THEATRE WAS ALMOST LOST ON A 4-3 VOTE IN FAVOR OF
KEEPING IT.
TAMPA, DOWNTOWN, I'LL CHALLENGE ANYBODY ON A DEBATE.
ON HOW IT WAS DONE.
WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IT ON.
ANY CITY OVER 250,000 PEOPLE THAT DOES NOT HAVE AN ACTIVE
DOWNTOWN IS DYING.
NOT BECAUSE I SAID IT.
11:57:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, THIS IS ABOUT ROME YARD.
NOT DOWNTOWN.
11:58:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I STARTED WITH DOWNTOWN, LITTLE SPAIN,
ENGLAND AND COME BACK TO YBOR CITY.

11:58:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I KNOW.
I'M TRYING TO GET US OUT OF HERE.
11:58:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I KNOW.
I'M NOT THAT HUNGRY.
I WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M DEALING WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
11:58:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:58:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MANY PHASES ARE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT?
11:58:24AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
FIVE.
11:58:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MANY HAVE YET TO BE STARTED?
11:58:27AM >> FOUR.
11:58:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ONLY HAVE ONE PHASE STARTED.
11:58:33AM >> ONE PHASE STARTED AND ONE PHASE THAT WILL START IN 60
DAYS AS SOON AS WE GET OUR PERMIT.
11:58:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I THEN ASSUME THAT EVERY OTHER SECTION
WILL ALSO NEED TO BE CONTINUED?
AND I'M NOT LIKE -- THIS IS MY LAST ONE.
11:58:50AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS HAPPENS
BECAUSE -- THEY DO THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN BEFORE THE
DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
THE FIRST PHASING AND TIMING PLAN WAS BEFORE THEY GOT INTO
THE DESIGN.
SO AS THEY DESIGN EACH PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEASE IN

PLACE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET SITE CONTROL IN ORDER TO GET
FINANCING.
WE DO THE INITIAL LEASE.
THEY THEN GET FINANCING.
AGAIN, THE LENDER COMMENTS ON THE LEASE.
THE LENDER, THE REQUEST IS TO EXTEND THE COMPLETION DATE FOR
EACH ONE OF THESE PHASES SO THEY DON'T AUTOMATICALLY GO INTO
DEFAULT IF THEY ARE A DAY LATE.
THEY CAN COMPLETE IT SOONER.
THIS IS JUST TO GIVE A CUSHION FOR THAT COMPLETION DATE.
AS THEY GO FOR EACH PHASE -- AND THIS IS TYPICAL WITH EVERY
DEVELOPMENT -- AS YOU GO PHASE BY PHASE, THEY GET FINANCING
FOR EACH PHASE, AND THINGS CHANGE.
SO, YES, THEY PROBABLY WILL BE COMING ASKING FOR AN
ADDITIONAL EXTENSION FOR EACH PHASE.
11:59:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS TO DO THEM ALL
AT ONCE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC IS JUST OVER.
I THINK I EITHER CAME IN RIGHT AFTER THIS APPROVAL, BUT I
ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY.
I DON'T LIKE CONTINUING THIS BECAUSE THERE IS, I MEAN, A
VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
12:00:19PM >> LET ME JUST CLARIFY ALSO, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE TWO
PARCELS.
THE NORTH PARCEL WHICH IS WHERE PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR,

AND THE TOWNHOMES ARE.
THAT WAS THE PARCEL THAT HAD THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES
AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT PART.
THAT PART IS THANKFULLY BEHIND US.
SO THIS PHASE FOUR IS IN THAT PART.
THAT KIND OF CLOSES OUT THAT SECTION ON THE MULTIFAMILY AND
THEN WE HAVE THE TOWNHOMES.
HOWEVER, PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE
CITY IS ALSO THAT RIVERWALK.
BECAUSE THE RIVERWALK OVER BEHIND BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S
GOING TO TURN AND JUST SOUTH OF RICK'S ON THE RIVER, IT'S
GOING TO TURN AND RUN WEST THROUGH THE FUTURE PHASES, WHICH
WAS ORIGINALLY ONE AND TWO, AND THAT IS STILL BEING
COORDINATED WITH YOUR TEAM AND YOUR PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE
YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THAT PIECE AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
HAS TO BE COORDINATED.
THE RIVERWALK IS GOING TO BIFURCATE THAT SOUTH PARCEL, AND
THEN HAVE PHASES ONE AND TWO ON EACH SIDE.
THAT'S PART OF IT, TOO.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE, THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT
TOPOGRAPHIES.
IF YOU GO THERE ON THE ROAD BY RICK'S ON THE RIVER, YOU'LL
SEE IT KIND OF WHERE WE ARE BUILDING ALREADY.
THE ROAD GOES VERY DOWN.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS BEING FINALIZED TO GET THAT GOING,

AND THEN WE'LL START THAT SUBSEQUENT PHASE.
SO THAT'S PART OF IT.
AND IT CONTINUES UP ROME YARD.
ONCE IT HITS ROME, IT WILL GO NORTH ON ROME.
12:01:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOLLOWED BY
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
12:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU ALL KNEW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE
THESE PROBLEMS.
YOU KNEW THIS SITE WAS DIFFICULT.
SO WHY DID YOU PUT THE COMPLETION DATES SO EARLY IF YOU KNEW
YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THESE COMPLICATIONS?
12:02:11PM >> WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T.
REMEMBER, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO DUE DILIGENCE DURING AN
RFP.
AFTER WE WERE SELECTED THAT'S WHEN OUR ENGINEERS STARTED
DOING DUE DILIGENCE.
THERE WAS A GLOBAL CONCEPT OF HEY, INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE'RE
NOT PRIVY TO EXACTLY ALL THE CHALLENGES UNTIL WE GET ON-SITE
AND STARTED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH OUR PROFESSIONALS.
SOME OF WHICH YOU'RE ENCOUNTERING NOW WITH THE RIVERWALK.
IT'S THINGS YOU HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WHEN OLDER
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
YOU JUST GOT TO GET THROUGH IT.
12:02:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
12:02:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.

12:02:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE -- CAN YOU
EXPLAIN TO ME WITH THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, IS IT
TIED TO ONE PHASE OR WOVEN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT?
12:02:58PM >> THROUGHOUT.
12:02:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FOR THIS PHASE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON,
COULD YOU PLEASE SAY WHAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED RIGHT NOW?
12:03:07PM >> SO THE WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER IS PART OF PHASE THREE.
UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
I'M SAYING WHAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
PHASE FOUR.
WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS PHASE 3A, THE WORKFORCE
TRAINING CENTER.
THE FIVE LIVE-WORK UNITS AND THE MINORITY CONTRACTING AND
LOCAL HIRING.
THAT WAS ALL PART OF PHASE 3A.
THERE WILL STILL BE IN PHASE 4, THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT
OF RETAIL, WHICH IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT
ALONG WITH THE MINORITY HIRING AND LOCAL HIRING COMPONENT IN
PHASE FOUR.
12:03:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
I LIKE THAT IT IS KIND OF WOVEN THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT, BUT
WE NEED HOUSING.
12:03:57PM >> THAT'S PART OF THIS PHASE.
THIS IS ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YES.

PART OF 3A AND 4.
IT'S 440, 234 AND 230, 464 UNITS, MAJORITY OF WHICH, OVER
80% OF THOSE ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:04:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SAY THE LAST PART AGAIN.
12:04:19PM >> I'LL GIVE YOU EXACT NUMBERS.
AMI IS FOR THE UNITS -- PHASE 3A, 184 UNITS, 80% AMI AND
BELOW, AND PHASE 4, WHICH IS THE ONE HERE FOR YOU NOW ABOUT
TO CLOSE, WE'LL HAVE ALL 230 UNITS BELOW 120 PERCENT OF AMI.
IT ALL FALLS UNDER THE CITY'S DEFINITION OF WORKFORCE, GOING
FROM 20% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME UP TO 120% OF MEDIAN INCOME.
WE HAVE ALL TYPES OF RANGES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THERE.
12:05:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN DOES MARKET RATE, TRULY MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT?
12:05:12PM >> WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE 50 UNITS IN PHASE 3A THAT'S
CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE ANOTHER 267 IN THE NEXT TWO PHASES,
THE ONE BIFURCATED BY THE RIVERWALK.
12:05:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THAT CONFORMS WITH THE INITIAL AGREEMENT AS FAR AS THE --
12:05:33PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
CORRECT.
12:05:34PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:05:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
TO MOVE ITEMS 14 AND 15.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE?

12:05:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN WE INCLUDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET -- I
KNOW WE ALREADY GET A PROGRESS REPORT, BUT EVEN MORE
IN-DEPTH PROGRESS REPORT AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD?
12:05:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION.
12:05:57PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS LEASE
ALREADY PROVIDES THAT THEY ARE TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS
FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
SO I CAN CHANGE THAT IN THE LEASE TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AND JUST AN OVERALL CONSTRUCTION REPORT ALSO.
12:06:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
12:06:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE?
12:06:16PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
I WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE.
12:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN THAT BE A CONDITION OF THIS VOTE?
12:06:19PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
YES.
12:06:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE HAVE A MOTION -- THE MOTION AND SECOND STILL GOOD WITH
THE CHANGES?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO MOVE ITEMS 14, 15 WITH THE
SAID CHANGES THAT STAFF HAS COMMITTED TO MAKE TO THE LEASE
ABOUT REPORTING BACK ON THOSE TWO ISSUES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:06:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.

12:06:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:06:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEGRUDGINGLY, YES.
12:06:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:06:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:06:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
12:06:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:06:57PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES 5-2 WITH CARLSON AND CLENDENIN
VOTING NO.
12:07:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO -- LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON
HERE.
THAT WAS 14 AND 15.
WE HAVE LEFT --
12:07:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
26, 27, 28.
12:07:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEN WE HAVE FIRE STATION REPORT AND WE
HAVE THE DISABILITY INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
OKAY.
WE HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED RIGHT NOW.
HOW ABOUT WE BREAK FOR 20 MINUTES FOR THE PRESS CONFERENCE
--
12:07:46PM >> I HEARD 12:
30.
12:07:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S KEEP GOING.
LET'S KEEP ROCKING.
ITEM NUMBER 26 AND 27 AND 28.

LET'S HEAR THOSE TOGETHER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
12:08:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE I STARTED THIS PROJECT BACK IN LATE 2021.
IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GOING TO BE FINISHING IT FOR US.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK WHO HAS WORKED ON THIS
PROJECT.
I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS UNANIMOUS VOTES IN SUPPORT
OF EVERYTHING RELATED TO IT AND THE COMMENTS THAT MANY
COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MADE IN REFERENCE TO THE NECESSITY OF
THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX.
I KNOW -- WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS PLENTY OF TIMES
ABOUT THIS, SO I DON'T WANT TO REGURGITATE ANYTHING YOU
ALREADY HEARD.
I DO KNOW LAST MONTH WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK HAD SOME REQUESTS ABOUT POTENTIAL COST
SAVINGS FOR THE FUTURE IN REFERENCE TO THE CROCKETT'S TOWING
MATTER AND HOW MUCH THE CITY COULD BE SAVING ON TOWING BILLS
IN THE FUTURE.
JUST TO COVER THAT BRIEFLY, EVEN BEFORE WE CONTRACT WITH
CROCKETT AND HAD THE OLD IMPOUND LOT ON 34th STREET, WE
STILL HAVE TO PAY MONEY TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CARS TOWED.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THE CARS ARE TOWED.
CITY DOESN'T OPERATE A TOWING SERVICE.

EITHER USE ONE PROVIDER OR ROTATION WRECKER PROVIDERS TO TOW
THE CARS TO WHEREVER THEY ARE GOING TO BE TOWED.
WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND THE NUMBERS BASED UPON AVERAGES
SINCE CROCKETT'S TOWING HAD THE CONTRACT WITH US, WHICH I
BELIEVE STARTED IN JULY OF 2023, IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT $8300
A MONTH THAT THE CITY WOULD PAY JUST IN STRAIGHT-UP TOW
FEES.
SO WE ARE PAYING RIGHT NOW A STRAIGHT $10,000 A MONTH FOR
UNLIMITED TOWS, IN ADDITION TO THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE
STORED AT THE CROCKETT'S FACILITY.
WHILE WE CAN'T GIVE A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHAT I
ANTICIPATE BASED UPON WHAT SOME OTHER AGENCIES HAVE DONE, WE
WILL BE RENEGOTIATING EITHER THE CONTRACT WITH CROCKETT'S OR
GOING THROUGH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO DECIDE IF WE WANT
TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT PROVIDER.
BUT I WOULD SAY THERE WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL COST SAVINGS
BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS
PROVIDING ONE COMPANY THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ALL OF OUR
POLICE IMPOUNDED VEHICLES, NOT THE ROTATION VEHICLES.
SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE GETTING MONEY BACK FROM THAT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RENTING OUT THE FACILITY FROM THEM
ANYMORE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE STAFFING THAT FACILITY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE STORING EVIDENCE AT THAT FACILITY.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE ALLOWING THEM TO TOW THE IMPOUNDED

VEHICLES AND STORE THEM FOR US.
THERE WOULD BE A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION WHERE THAT RATE WOULD
HOPEFULLY COME DOWN VERY SIGNIFICANTLY.
WOULD NOT BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO $10,000 A MONTH FOR THAT.
12:10:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:10:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THE RESEARCH AND
THE WORK ON THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT AS WE
GET FURTHER ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT.
JUST KIND OF UPDATES TO US ON THAT AS WELL.
I CAN GET WITH YOUR OFFICE TO TALK ABOUT THAT MORE GOING
FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF
THIS.
I KNOW WE'RE ALSO CHANGING HOW WE TOW AND WHY WE TOW AND HOW
LONG WE HOLD.
I DO KNOW THERE WILL BE A LOT OF FACTORS AT PLAY THAT MAKE
THAT DECISION.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:11:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S MY INTENTION TO SUPPORT THIS.
IN THE BEGINNING I WAS APPREHENSIVE BUT YOU HAVE DONE A LOT
OF VALUE ENGINEERING AND REDUCED THE COST OF THIS TO BE
SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN INITIALLY PITCHED.
MY INTENTION TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT WITH THE COST SAVINGS

ROLLED INTO THE PROJECT.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
12:11:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU MENTIONED
CROCKETT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I BELIEVE THAT IS A BIG VENDOR, ISN'T IT?
12:11:57PM >> I BELIEVE THEY MAY HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
12:12:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ANY VENDORS THAT ARE SMALLER VENDORS THAT
MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET PIECE OF THE PIE THAT HAVE THE
PROPERTY?
12:12:06PM >> AGAIN, IN THE FUTURE, POTENTIALLY.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE --
12:12:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BONDED AND INSURED JUST LIKE ANYBODY
ELSE.
12:12:14PM >> RIGHT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CARS THAT ARE IN TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS
AND GET TAKEN -- WE NEED TO HAVE OUR POLICE IMPOUNDED
VEHICLES, EVIDENCE VEHICLES IN ONE PLACE.
WE CAN'T HAVE DETECTIVES TRYING TO DRIVE ALL AROUND THE CITY
TO FIGURE OUT WHERE A VEHICLE MIGHT BE.
12:12:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHERE IS CROCKETT'S PLACE AT?
12:12:35PM >> DREW PARK.
POTENTIALLY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT COULD NEVER CHANGE.
THAT IS A CONTRACT.
FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT THAT DOES EXPIRE.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE NEGOTIATIONS TO EITHER RENEW THAT.

BELIEVE ME, IF WE DON'T FEEL CROCKETT'S WILL BE GIVING US A
VALUE, WE'LL GET WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF
WE CAN FIND OTHER OPTIONS.
12:12:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO GO BY WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FROM
MS. KOPESKY YESTERDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT THE TOTAL COST.
RIGHT NOW, I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION AND MAKING SURE THAT
THIS -- I DON'T KNOW, I THINK MR. PERRY IS BEHIND YOU,
POSSIBLY.
HE'S SOMEWHERE.
I COULDN'T SEE HIM.
HE'S HIDING FROM ME.
FROM WHAT MS. KOPESKY PUT TOGETHER, THE TOTAL PROJECT COST
WILL BE 34.2 MILLION WITH 7 MILLION HAVING ALREADY BEEN
SPENT.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT?
12:13:43PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
YES.
MIKE PERRY, REVENUE AND FINANCE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE MEMORANDUM ATTACHED TO THE
AGENDA.
WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TO DO A SOURCES AND USES.
SO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT, THIS IS THE $7
MILLION WHEN THE PROJECT WAS KNOWN AS THE PREVIOUSLY --
PREVIOUSLY THE IMPOUND LOT PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE EVEN PART OF THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION, IF I MAY

TALK TO THAT, IS WE'RE REDUCING THAT PROJECT AMOUNT BY
175,000 CURRENT BOND PROCEEDS, AND ABOUT $1.3 MILLION FUTURE
BOND PROCEEDS TO GET TO THAT $7 MILLION.
ONCE WE PAY THE FINAL PURCHASE P.O.s, FINAL BILLS THAT
PROJECT WILL BE CLOSED.
AND WE'LL BE CONCENTRATING ON WHAT WE CALL THE PHASE TWO UP
THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL $40 MILLION --
12:14:42PM >> YES.
12:14:42PM >>MICHAEL PERRY:
OKAY.
WE REDUCE IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS TO HELP US DO THE AUDIT TRAIL IN TWO YEARS
WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
SO YOU SEE THE 1.2 COMING BACK INTO THE PROJECT, BUT IT'S
BEING REDUCED BY $14 MILLION TO REVISE PROJECT FOR A PHASE
TWO OF $27.2 MILLION.
AND TO REAFFIRM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENT, TOTAL PROJECT
RIGHT NOW IS AT $34.2 MILLION.
12:15:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE OTHER THING, AND THE REASON I BROUGHT
THIS UP, AND MY MOST IMPORTANT AND INTERESTED PORTION IS
WHAT WAS UNDER THAT, WHERE IT SAYS OPPORTUNITIES.
OPPORTUNITIES -- THIS IS FROM MS. KOPESKY'S E-MAIL.
WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY FOR COST SAVINGS EVEN
MORE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
AND SO SHE ESTIMATES THAT WITH CONTRACTED CONTINGENCY, T AND

I EQUIPMENT AND SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT AND OWNER CONTINGENCY,
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE $2 MILLION MORE.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CONJECTURE.
WE'RE NOT SURE.
BUT I AM GOING TO BE -- AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK
THAT EVERYONE HAS DONE TO BRING THIS COST DOWN, AND I AM
REALLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CONTINGENCIES HERE.
I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE IT FASTER, TO DO
WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE AND TO BRING IT DOWN EVEN
MORE, BECAUSE MY BIGGER CONCERN ISN'T THE TOTAL COST.
IT'S THAT WE'VE ALREADY BONDED FOR PART OF THAT 7 MILLION,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BOND FOR A GOOD PART OF THIS 27 MILLION.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN USE SOME CIT MONEY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE
GOING TO GET THE CIT FUNDS IN TIME FOR THAT.
ANYWAY I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT EVERYONE HAS GONE THROUGH
FOR THIS.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY.
12:16:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS
OF 26, 27, 28?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.

48 MILLION -- THAT'S GOOD.
THANKS FOR DOING THAT.
ITEM 31.
SOMEBODY FROM THE FIRE, ARE THEY HERE?
MUTTERBACK, ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT?
12:17:11PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
I AM NOT.
I AM HERE TO SUPPORT, BUT THE PROJECT MANAGER, KEN GUYETTE,
IS HE NOT ON VIRTUALLY?
12:17:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
KEN, CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR CAMERA AND MAKE
SURE YOU ARE UNMUTED, PLEASE?
12:17:30PM >> I'M HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
12:17:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAD GOTTEN A NOTE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO
MYSTERIOUSLY APPEAR IN FRONT OF US.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START PRESENTING ON ITEM 31, PLEASE?
START WITH YOUR NAME.
12:17:45PM >> YES.
LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.
12:17:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
KEN, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
12:18:02PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSELORS.
EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?
12:18:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:18:06PM >> GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS KEN GUYETTE.
SENIOR DIRECTOR WITH COLLIER'S PROJECT -- OWNER PROJECT
MANAGER WORKING ON TFR NUMBER 24.
12:18:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
WE NEED TO KEEP THIS AS CLOSE TO FIVE MINUTES AND NO MORE
THAN TEN MINUTES.
12:18:25PM >> YOU GOT IT.
NOT A PROBLEM.
WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GIVING YOU KIND OF OUR UPDATE AS WE'VE
DONE IN THE PAST, GOING THROUGH THE CORE TEAM AGAIN THAT YOU
SEE HERE.
NOTHING THERE HAS CHANGED.
COUPLE OF UPDATES THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT TO.
SO FIRST OF ALL, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, 90% CONSTRUCTION
DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS OF THE 17th OF MARCH.
WE HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WHICH
IS SCHEDULED TO BE DELIVERED EARLY ON MAY 15, VERSUS THE
ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED JULY 26 OF THIS YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THAT
GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE IN LATE JUNE, WHICH, AGAIN, IS A
POSITIVE SHIFT IN THE SCHEDULE FROM OUR EARLIER ANTICIPATED
SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION, LOOKING AT

SEPTEMBER 1st, 2027, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, VERSUS
OCTOBER 22 SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT AND LOOK FOR ALL AVENUES TO
BE ABLE TO TRUNCATE THAT SCHEDULE.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO US.
COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE WE LAST
REPORTED, WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CONDUCTED TWO OUTREACH
SESSIONS FOR THE PUBLIC.
ONE WAS ON FEBRUARY 21st.
THAT WAS A SATURDAY.
IT WAS OUT AT THE PROJECT SITE AND WELL ATTENDED.
IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
THE OTHER WAS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 26th, AND THAT WAS AT THE
CORPORATION, AGAIN, VERY SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC OUTREACH SESSION.
STORMWATER RETENTION HAS BEEN MODIFIED BASED ON THE
UNDERWATER CALCULATIONS THAT THE ENGINEERS KEEP CRUNCHING AS
WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASES.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SCREEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE
RETENTION BASIN HAS BEEN ENLARGED SLIGHTLY FROM THE EARLIER
ITERATION.
THAT'S DUE TO THE HUNDRED-YEAR STORM IMPACT CALCULATIONS
THAT THE ENGINEER HAD TO FACTOR IN, WHICH ALSO NOW HAS
INCLUDED ADDITIONAL VAULTS UNDERNEATH THE PAVEMENT, WHICH WE
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INCORPORATE THOSE AT COST FOR THE VAULTS
WITHIN THE BUDGET.

SO NO NEGATIVE BUDGET IMPACT THERE.
WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE ALL THAT WITHIN THE COVERED BUDGET.
THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, SHOWING YOU THE NEW FLOOR PLAN.
NO CHANGES TO THE FLOOR PLAN.
AGAIN, FURTHER REFINEMENT AND ITERATION OF THE FLOOR PLAN
THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST COUNCIL UPDATE.
REVISED RENDERING.
THIS IS AGAIN, ALONG WHITE WAY, LOOKING ESSENTIALLY
NORTHEAST AT THE PROJECT SITE.
THIS IS THE SOUTHERN ELEVATION OF THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS ALONG WHITE WAY, THE SOUTHERN EXPOSURE.
AND AGAIN, THE SAME TWO VIEWS HOWEVER AT TWILIGHT.
LASTLY, LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE, SO YOU'VE SEEN THE SCHEDULE
BEFORE.
AGAIN, CURRENT STATUS BAR KEEPS MARCHING DOWN AS WE CONTINUE
TO MOVE THROUGH THE PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
YOU'LL SEE THE ITEMS IN RED HAVE BEEN MOVED TO SHOW, AGAIN,
POSITIVE SCHEDULE UPDATES.
WE'VE MOVED THE MISSION OF THE GMP TO EARLIER.
WE MOVED THE START DATE TO EARLIER.
AND SO, AGAIN, OVERALL POSITIVE NEWS TODAY ON THE PROJECT
AND I'LL FIELD ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS POINT.
12:22:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:22:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE LEAVING AT 12:30, CORRECT?

PUT ME ON A TIMER FOR TWO MINUTES.
BECAUSE I COULD GO ON FOREVER ABOUT THIS.
KEN, I WANTED TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON
THIS.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY FAST, IF I MAY.
I ALWAYS THINK OF HISTORICAL RECITATION OF THIS IS CORRECT
BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF COMING IN AND PUTTING
US ON THE RIGHT PATH.
I SPOKE TO MR. MUTTERBACK ABOUT THIS -- THIS IS SOMETHING
WHERE WE PASSED DESIGN FUNDING I BELIEVE IN 2023 AND PASSED
BONDING PROGRAM TO THE EXTENT IT WAS NECESSARY IN 2023.
AND WE WERE TOLD NOW GROUND BREAKING WOULD OCCUR ABOUT THREE
YEARS AFTER THAT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2026.
I KNOW YOU'RE PUSHING FORWARD SOME OF THESE DEADLINES AND
EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR GROUND
BREAKING RIGHT NOW?
IT WAS SEPTEMBER 2026, END OF SEPTEMBER I THINK IT WAS.
WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW WITH SOME OF YOUR IMPROVEMENTS,
SIR?
12:23:09PM >> ABOUT A MONTH EARLIER, COUNCILOR.
ABOUT MIDDLE TO LATE AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
12:23:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MADE THAT MOTION.
I THANK HER FOR THAT TO SPECIFICALLY PUSH.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO SAY.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
I WAS AT THAT MEETING AND A LOT OF FOLKS WERE LOOKING
FORWARD TO THIS AND THIS WILL FINISH THE JOB ON STATION 13
WITH 24 AND 25.
THANK YOU, SIR.
12:23:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS UPDATE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I HAD ONE SIMPLE QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WILL
ASK.
WILL YOU BE ADDING THESE DOCUMENTS THIS PowerPoint TO
OnBase AFTER WE FINISH TODAY?
CAN YOU SEND THAT TO THE CLERK?
12:23:56PM >> YES, MA'AM.
ABSOLUTELY.
12:24:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION ON ITEM 31.
WE'LL CLOSE THAT OUT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT
PRESENTATION IN MAY.
INTERNSHIP, 32.
WE DID GET A WRITTEN REPORT.
DO YOU STILL NEED STAFF?
12:24:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEY ARE HERE AND I HAVE A VERY QUICK
QUESTION.

THEY WERE WAITING.
MAY I HAVE THEM SPEAK FOR 90 SECONDS TO THE EXTENT THEY HAD
ANY UPDATE FOR US ON THIS?
12:24:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
12:24:35PM >> BRENDA McKENZIE, CITY OF TAMPA WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIPS.
12:24:39PM >> RAQUEL PANCHO, ADA COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY.
12:24:43PM >> WE SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REPORT, BUT WE ARE HERE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
12:24:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE WENT TO THE JOBS PROGRAM A COUPLE OF WEEKS
AGO.
HOW ARE WE DOING IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF INTERNS THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT GETTING INTO THIS PROGRAM NOW?
12:24:59PM >> WE'VE HAD A REALLY POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE SHOWCASE
THAT WE HELD.
WE'RE EXPECTING AT THE MOMENT THREE TO FOUR INTERNS COMING
ON BOARD IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO BASED ON THAT PROGRAM.
WE SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO CAPACITY.
12:25:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT IS CAPACITY?
12:25:15PM >> CAPACITY DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THE INTERN STAYS COULD BE
ANYWHERE FOUR TO EIGHT.
12:25:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S GREAT.
THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL.
COUNCIL, MAYOR CASTOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU GUYS,
MS. PANCHO, YOU HAVE A BIG HEART FOR THIS AND DO A GREAT

JOB.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY ADMIRE AND LOVE YOU.
MS. McKENZIE, JUST COMING IN, YOU ARE THE CLOSER.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
I ALWAYS WANT THIS TO BE BECAUSE WHEN I MOTIONED FOR THIS
MICHAEL PHILLIPS ALL ABILITIES INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED
SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR THEM.
GOD BLESS YOU.
12:25:58PM >> HAPPY WORLD AUTISM DAY.
12:25:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
RECEIVE AND FILE THIS WRITTEN REPORT?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR OLD BUSINESS OR OUR AGENDA ITEMS.
12:26:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO CLARIFY ONE ITEM.
ACTUALLY HAVE TO CLARIFY MORE THAN ONE ITEM.
12:26:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GIVE ME A NUMBER FIRST.
12:26:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
26, 27, AND 28, BUT SPECIFICALLY 26.
THERE WAS NO NOTATION ON THE AGENDA, HOWEVER COUNCIL'S RULES
DO STATE THAT IF IT IS A CONTRACT MORE THAN $20 MILLION, IT
NEEDS TO APPEAR TWICE ON THE AGENDA.

MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS APPEARED ON THE
AGENDA.
12:26:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO IN NEW BUSINESS, CAN WE HAVE THESE COME
BACK FOR SECOND READING?
12:26:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
YOU ALREADY MOVED THEM.
YOU HAVE TO RESCIND.
12:26:59PM >> MOVE TO RESCIND.
12:26:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
12:27:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECONSIDER -- MOTION TO
RECONSIDER FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:27:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
QUESTION, 26, 27, 28?
12:27:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
26, 27, 28.
MOTION TO RECONSIDER 26, 27, 28 FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:27:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THOSE ARE NOW ON THE FLOOR.
12:27:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ADD FOR
SECOND READING FOR THE RESOLUTIONS FOR 26, 27, 28 TO APRIL
16.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
12:27:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.

12:27:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAM.
WE ARE TO NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:27:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DON'T FORGET, AND I MENTIONED THIS TO THE
RAYS AND MARTY, IF THE TAMPA BAY RAYS COME UP WITH A
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT'S BINDING, THAT IS THE SAME
AS A CONTRACT, SO IT HAS TO BE HEARD TWICE OVER TWO WEEKS
ALSO.
CAN'T BE A QUICK VOTE UNLESS IT'S JUST SYMBOLIC.
MY APPOINTEE TO THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BRITTNEY LISI
HAS TENDERED HER RESIGNATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT TARAH BLUMA'S
APPLICATION TO THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND FOR A
RESOLUTION TO BE PREPARED AND BROUGHT BACK FOR ADOPTION ON
APRIL 9.
16.
OKAY.
12:28:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN TALK TO THAT VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
WE HAVE TWO APPOINTEES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION
BUT YOU DID ADOPT OR ACCEPT THEM BY MOTION PREVIOUSLY.
SO THERE IS A MEETING A WEEK FROM FRIDAY, BOTH YOUR
APPOINTEES ARE NOW MEMBERS AND ARE INVITED TO ATTEND.

ONCE THE MOTION PASSES, ONCE THIS MOTION PASSES, THE
RESOLUTION JUST RATIFIES IT.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BEGIN PARTICIPATING NEXT FRIDAY.
12:29:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK CHARLIE SECONDED IT.
12:29:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH YES FOR ME.
BUT I'LL DO IT OUT OF DEFERENCE TO YOU.
12:29:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, PORT TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD
LEADER.
12:29:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL DO THIS OUT OF DEFERENCE TO YOU.
12:29:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I REALLY QUICK ON THIS?
I AM PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED 100% TO THIS APPOINTEE.
BUT I BELIEVE EVERY PERSON NEEDS TO HAVE DISCRETION IN
APPOINTING.
I'LL BE SUPPORTING UNDER THAT QUALIFICATION.
12:29:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DITTO.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
12:29:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT MY FORM 8B FROM EARLIER TO RECEIVE
AND FILE.
12:29:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE RECUSAL FORM FROM

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
OPPOSED?
12:29:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
READ THIS OTHER ONE REAL FAST.
I'M JUST READING WHAT I WAS HANDED.
IN FISCAL YEAR '25, THE CITY RECEIVED A $650,000 SETTLEMENT
WITH THE FLORIDA GAS TRANSMISSION COMPANY, LLC.
THIS WAS WRITTEN IN COORDINATION WITH STAFF.
AS PAYMENT FOR A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR
PROPERTIES IN THE PORT TAMPA AREA.
THAT FUNDING WAS PLACED INTO PROJECT 1002116 SMALL
NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE CAPITAL PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION PREPARE A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION REALLOCATING
THE 650,000 TO PROJECT 1002293 GANDY PARK SOUTH AND AJ
PALONIS PARK SINCE THIS COMPENSATION WAS FOR THE PUBLIC AREA
LOST IN DISTRICT 4 AND GIVEN THAT THE GMP THE COUNCIL
APPROVED RECENTLY FOR THE GANDY PARK SOUTH AJ PALONIS PARK
DOES NOT PROVIDE ALL THE AMENITIES THAT WERE SOUGHT IN THE
ORIGINAL DESIGN.
THIS WOULD SERVE TO INCREASE THE ABILITY TO FUND MANY OF
THOSE ITEMS.
12:30:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I NEED MORE INFORMATION.
I THINK THIS -- ASK THAT TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA SO

WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
12:31:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
12:31:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
IS MISSING, GIVE ALL THE FACTS.
12:31:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO THAT HAD TO UNFINISHED
BUSINESS, STAFF REPORT IN UNFINISHED BUSINESS FOR THIS?
12:31:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE ADD THIS TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS?
12:31:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, MOTION TO ADD TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
12:31:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO ADD TO
APRIL 16 UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILMAN VIERA?
12:31:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOTHING.
12:31:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I HAVE A QUICK MOTION.
THERE IS A PETITION, CONFLICT OF ISSUE CITY'S ETHIC CODE
AFFECTING CDC, HOUSING AUTHORITY PROHIBITING APPLYING FOR
CRA GRANTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES SITTING ON CAC FOR
THE CRA.
I WOULD THEREFORE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR LEGAL DEPARTMENT
TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE CITY COUNCIL WITH A WRITTEN REPORT --
ADDRESSING THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUE IN THE CITY'S

ETHICS CODE AS COUNCIL -- CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUE IN THE
CITY'S ETHICS CODE AT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY 7, 2026 MEETING.
THE REASON THIS CAME UP IS BECAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE
CDC APPLYING FOR ONE OF THE GRANTS FOR CRA.
THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THIS MOTION TO HAVE LEGAL COME AND
SPEAK.
12:32:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE.
THE ONLY ANSWER IS TO HAVE THEM NOT BE ON.
YOU MAY WISH TO TALK TO ATTORNEY SHEPARD BEFORE BRINGING
THIS FORWARD.
BUT THE ANSWER PRETTY MUCH IS THEY CAN'T BE ON IT.
12:32:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD RATHER THEM COME AND SAY THAT TO THE
PUBLIC.
12:32:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:32:53PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK MAYBE YOU WERE IN THE MEETING, BUT I
TALKED TO THE PARTIES THAT WERE A PART OF THIS.
HAMILTON WAS IN THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND SAID IT WAS OKAY.
BUT MY THING IS CRA STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL
PEOPLE WHETHER THEY ARE MEETING THE ETHICS CODE VIOLATION OR
NOT.
ONLY THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES.
REMEMBER, IN THE CHARTER, THE CITY ATTORNEY NOT ONLY
REPRESENTS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR BUT ALSO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
SO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO DIRECTLY TO

THE ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU TO THE ATTORNEYS FOR WEIGHING IN.
THEY OVERRULED THE STAFF PERSON IN THIS SITUATION, AND SO I
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WRITTEN DOWN ANYWHERE, BUT AS FAR AS THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I THINK IT'S FINE.
I AGREE THAT THIS SHOULD COME OUT INTO THE OPEN SO THAT WE
COULD MAKE SURE NOBODY ELSE FEELS AFRAID.
12:33:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN THAT
MOTION TO BRING IT BACK.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
12:33:50PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALSO, EAST TAMPA TOWN HALL MONDAY APRIL 20,
FAIR OAKS.
DOORS OPEN AT 6, 6:30 TO 8.
12:33:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:33:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
AFTER CLEARING THE CALENDAR OF RECURRING STAFF REPORTS, I
SPOKE TO DIRECTOR FEELEY AND SHE REQUESTS TO APPEAR ON MAY
7, 2026, WITH AN LDC UPDATE AND THEN BIMONTHLY MOVING
FORWARD FOR A YEAR.
12:34:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
IS THAT IT?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
I HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS.
ONE, COUNCILMAN VIERA, ON THE APRIL 16 AGENDA, YOU HAVE
LEGAL STAFF TO RETURN FOR ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
VETERANS COMMITTEE.
WE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT WITH MOVING THIS FOR THE SECOND
READING OF THE ORDINANCE.
MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM FROM STAFF REPORTS.
12:34:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
12:34:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO REMOVE THE LEGAL STAFF
RETURN ON ORDINANCE OF CITY OF TAMPA VETERANS COMMITTEE ON
THE APRIL 16 MEETING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
JUST FYI, WE HAVE A HART BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK.
I PLAN ON MAKING A MOTION AT A HART BOARD, COORDINATED WITH
MOBILITY AND WITH HART, TO HAVE HART START THE TRANSFER

PROCESS OF MARION STREET BACK TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
REENGAGE THAT STREET WITH THE GRID IN THE CITY.
IT WOULD NOT RESTRICT THE BUS TRANSIT, BUT OPEN IT UP FOR
BUSINESS AS USUAL.
12:35:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DID WE APPROVE THAT?
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY STAFF ARE ANNOUNCING THAT WE'RE
GOING TO DO THIS IF WE HAVEN'T APPROVED IT YET.
12:35:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW.
12:35:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY ARE ANNOUNCING ALL OVER NEXT DOOR IT
WILL HAPPEN AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED FRANKLIN STREET
YET.
12:35:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT
YET.
DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP IS COMMITTED TO DO IT MAYBE TO PRESENT
AN OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:35:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST GOT HANDED SOMETHING.
WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED 2027 BUDGET
WORKSHOP DATES THIS THURSDAY REGULAR MEETING, FINANCE
COMMITTEE, REVENUE AND FINANCE COMMITTEE SUGGESTS AUGUST 3
WOULD BE THE FIRST WORKSHOP FOR GENERAL FUND.
AUGUST 10 WOULD BE THE WORKSHOP FOR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, AND
AUGUST 17 WOULD BE THE WORKSHOP FOR STORMWATER AND MOBILITY.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS --

12:36:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TIME?
THEY ARE ALL MONDAYS.
12:36:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MONDAYS, WANT IT DAY OR EVENING?
12:36:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE DO TIME TO BE ANNOUNCED.
SET THE DATE AND THEN TIME TO BE ANNOUNCED, BECAUSE WE CAN
LOOK AT A MIX OF DAY AND NIGHT.
12:36:29PM >> HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY BUDGET ANALYST.
I THINK BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WERE ABSENT LAST WEEK, WE PAUSED
ON THIS.
BUT, TRULY, THE TIMES ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
I KNOW WE DID THINGS LAST YEAR IN A CERTAIN WAY, BUT I THINK
WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING FRESH START.
12:36:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE COME BACK TO THE APRIL 16
MEETING WITH THE TIMES.
UNANIMOUS CONSENT ON SETTING THE DATES WITH TIME TO BE
DETERMINED.
ANY OBJECTION?
HEARING NONE.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO TO THE PRESS CONFERENCE, IT'S
HAPPENING NOW.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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