TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 2026, 9:00 A.M.
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9:05:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
IT'S A FULL HOUSE AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
WELCOME.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND RECOGNIZE
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR OUR INVOCATION.
9:05:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME FATHER ZACH ELLIOTT, A
FRANCISCAN FRIAR FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AT THE HISTORIC SACRED
HEART CATHOLIC CHURCH RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
FATHER ZACH HAS BEEN A PAROCHIAL VICAR WITH SACRED HEART
SINCE JULY OF 2011, APPROACHING HIS 15-YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN
MINISTERING TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY.
IT IS SPECIAL, TOO, FOR US TO HAVE A FRANCISCAN WITH US
TODAY AS THEY ARE IN THE MIDST OF A JUBILEE YEAR CELEBRATING
THE 800th ANNIVERSARY OF ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI'S PASSING.
THE SAINT WHOSE ORDER EMBODIES THE PURSUIT OF JUSTICE,
PEACE, AND INTEGRITY FOR CREATION.
IF WE WOULD ALL PLEASE STAND AND, FATHER ZACH, LEAD US IN
THE INVOCATION.
9:06:10AM >> ALMIGHTY AND GRACIOUS GOD WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH HUMBLE
HEART.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED ON OUR
CITY -- [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- A CITY RICH IN HISTORY,
DIVERSITY, OPPORTUNITY.
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE FAMILIES WHO CALL TAMPA HOME,
BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT -- [INAUDIBLE] -- TO MAKE
THIS COMMUNITY STRONGER, SAFER.
LORD, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, THE
CITY ADMINISTRATORS, ALL PUBLIC SERVANTS ENTRUSTED WITH
LEADERSHIP.
GRANT THEM WISDOM, DISCERNMENT AND ACCESS TO COURAGE AND
INTEGRITY, HUMILITY TO LISTEN WITH OPEN MINDS AND
COMPASSIONATE HEARTS.
MAY THEIR DECISIONS BE GUIDED NOT BY PERSONAL INTERESTS BUT
BY SINCERE COMMITMENT TO THE COMMON GOOD AND WELL-BEING OF
ALL RESIDENTS.
WE PRAY FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, EMERGENCY
MEDICAL PERSONNEL AND ALL FIRST RESPONDERS WHO PLACE
THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY TO PROTECT OTHERS.
SURROUND THEM WITH YOUR PROTECTION AND GRANT THEM PEACE AND
STRENGTH WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
ALSO REMEMBER THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE STRUGGLING,
THOSE FACING ILLNESS, LONELINESS, FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS,
UNCERTAINTY AND LOSS.
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
INSPIRE US TO BE MINDFUL OF THEIR NEEDS AND SEE SOLUTIONS
THAT HELP THE VULNERABLE AMONG US.
BEGIN WORK WITH RESPECT, CIVILITY AND SPIRIT OF COOPERATION.
[INAUDIBLE]
CHALLENGES ARISE, SEEK UNDERSTANDING.
JUSTICE, FAIRNESS -- WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
[INAUDIBLE] WITH GRATITUDE AND FAITH, AMEN.
9:08:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LEAD US
IN THE PLEDGE?
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
9:08:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:08:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:08:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:08:55AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:08:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:08:57AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:08:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:08:59AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:09:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM SESSIONS HELD
ON MAY 21st, 2026, AND THE WORKSHOP AND EVENING SESSIONS
HELD ON MAY 28, 2026?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
BEFORE WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE HAVE A SPECIAL
ANNOUNCEMENT.
WE HAVE A BIRTHDAY AND ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF BIRTHDAYS
IN THE HOUSE.
ONE, COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
CAN YOU THINK OF A BETTER PLACE TO CELEBRATE YOUR BIRTHDAY
THAN SITTING UP HERE WITH US?
ANNOUNCE ANOTHER BIRTHDAY.
OUR DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
WHAT IS IT, 79?
[ LAUGHTER ]
LOVE YOU.
READY?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR NAYA AND STEPHANIE
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
ANY OTHER BIRTHDAYS IN THE HOUSE?
NO, OKAY, HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT SEGMENT OF OUR
AGENDA.
THANK YOU.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
OKAY.
SO WE'VE GOT APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHANGES WE ARE GOING TO MAKE.
ANYBODY?
ANYBODY WANT TO START US OFF?
ANYBODY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
GOOD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?
9:10:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO PULL 19 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
9:10:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
19 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
OKAY.
WE WILL PULL 19 FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON CONSENT AGENDA?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:10:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO PULL 20 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:11:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
20 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.
OKAY.
19 AND 20.
UNDER STAFF REPORTS, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, I WOULD LIKE TO
GET A MOTION TO MOVE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES AFTER OUR
COMMENDATION AND PRESENTATIONS.
9:11:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
9:11:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
I'M SORRY.
NOT AFTER COMMENDATIONS.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY?
9:11:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR CHIEF BENNETT, I DON'T BELIEVE WE SPOKE
ABOUT THIS, BUT IF YOU CAN COMMENT, IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO
COMMENT ON THE ATU ISSUE FOR THE WORKER OF THE QUARTER.
IF NOT, WE CAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
IN OTHER WORDS, IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE SOMETHING CAN BE
WORKED THROUGH PERSONNEL OR WHATNOT --
9:11:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S HOLD OFF ON THAT.
9:11:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M SAYING IF YOU CAN COMMENT AT THE TIME.
IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED, WE CAN DO NEXT WEEK.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:11:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 55, 56, 57 I DON'T THINK WE
NEED STAFF.
IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH RECEIVING AND FILING THOSE?
55, 56, AND 57.
9:12:11AM >> YES.
9:12:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF WILL BE PRESENT FOR 58.
9:12:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO 55, 56, AND 57, NO STAFF
BEING NECESSARY, IF WE COULD TAKE THOSE UP AT THE END OF THE
CONSENT DOCKET.
9:12:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
I'M MAKING SURE THAT -- STAFF WILL BE PRESENT FOR 58.
9:12:28AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ON 58, THANK YOU, SIR, I SEE CHIEF BARBARA
TRIPP HERE.
IF YOU, MA'AM, OR ANYBODY ON YOUR STAFF OR ANYBODY WHO WILL
BE HERE NEEDS A SPECIFIC TIME, PLEASE LET US KNOW IN THE
MEANWHILE.
THANK YOU.
9:12:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SUSPECTING THAT WE DO WANT STAFF FOR
59.
9:12:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONG
US.
I DON'T NEED STAFF.
9:12:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
60, 61 STAFF WILL BE PRESENT.
62 IS MARTY SHELBY.
HE WILL BE THE STAFF FOR THAT.
WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 63 TO JUNE 18,
2026.
9:13:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
9:13:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. SHELBY.
9:13:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT?
9:13:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
ITEM NUMBER 64, REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO AUGUST 17, 2026,
BUDGET WORKSHOP AT 5:01.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:13:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO APPROVE 65.
I'M SORRY.
RECEIVE AND FILE 65.
9:13:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM NUMBER 65.
IT WAS A WRITTEN REPORT FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE?
9:13:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:13:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THAT WAS RELATIVELY PAINLESS.
COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH OUR FAVORITE, COUNCILMAN
VIERA, POLICE ARE FIRST.
9:14:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE UP -- SO IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE,
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, TO DO OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
OFFICER MARTIN RAMIREZ WHO I SAW HERE I BELIEVE WITH HIS
FAMILY.
ALWAYS PROUD TO DO THIS ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON BOTH THE
POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAD MENTIONED ST. FRANCIS ASSISI.
GREAT SAYING FROM HIM, PREACH ALL WAYS AND SPEAK IF YOU HAVE
TO.
I THINK THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER POLICE OFFICERS
OR FIREFIGHTERS ALWAYS JUST PREACH I GUESS IF YOU WILL GOOD
VIRTUE AND GOOD LIVING BY VIRTUE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO
EVERY DAY.
COME FORWARD, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR OFFICER OF
THE MONTH.
9:15:01AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
DEPUTY CHIEF PAT MESSMER, TPD.
GOOD MORNING.
OFFICER RAMIREZ, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME ON UP.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OFFICER MARTIN RAMIREZ, OUR
OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR JUNE.
OFFICER RAMIREZ HAS BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT EIGHT
YEARS.
HE'S BEEN SPENDING THE PAST FOUR YEARS AS A FIELD TRAINING
OFFICER UP IN DISTRICT 2.
FIELD TRAINING OFFICER IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS WE
HAVE.
WHEN A NEW RECRUIT COMES OUT OF THE POLICE ACADEMY, THEY GO
TO FIELD TRAINING TO GET THE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING AND OFFICER
RAMIREZ REALLY EXEMPLIFIES THE STANDARDS THAT WE EXPECT OF
OUR FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS DUE TO HIS TRAINING ABILITY, HIS
KNOWLEDGE, HIS WORK ETHIC, HE IS A LOT OF TIMES TASKED WITH
TRAINING THOSE RECRUITS WHO NEED A LITTLE EXTRA HELP.
THEY ARE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE HE'S ABLE TO GET
THEM TO THE LEVEL THEY NEED TO BE TO BE SOLO TAMPA POLICE
OFFICERS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE'S ONE OF THE MOST PROACTIVE OFFICERS
ON THE SQUAD.
HE TAKES SOME OF THE MOST CALLS FOR SERVICE OF ANY OFFICER
ON HIS SQUAD AND JUST DOES AN ALL-AROUND GREAT JOB IN THE
COMMUNITY.
A COUPLE OF INSTANCES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, OFFICER
RAMIREZ WAS ON FOOT PATROL ONE OF OUR PARKS WHERE WE HAVE A
LOT OF NEIGHBORS CALLING WITH CONCERNS.
HE HEARS SHOTS BEING FIRED IN THE PARK.
HE'S ABLE TO SEE THE INDIVIDUAL FIRING A WEAPON, FIRING A
FIREARM IN THE PARK.
HE IS ABLE TO DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION, TAKE THE PERSON IN
CUSTODY AND RECOVER THE FIREARM.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT, A CALL IN THE ZONE RESPONDS TO SHOTS
FIRED CALL.
HE'S AGAIN OUT ON FOOT IN THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO DISCERN
WHAT HAPPENED.
HE SEES THE INDIVIDUAL AGAIN FIRING SHOTS.
HE'S ABLE TO, ONCE AGAIN, DE-ESCALATE, TAKE THE PERSON INTO
CUSTODY, RECOVER FIREARM AND AMMUNITION.
GREAT WORK OFFICER RAMIREZ DOES BOTH TRAINING OUR RECRUITS,
POLICING IN THE COMMUNITY.
DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT.
HE IS ALSO ONE OF OUR SPANISH SPEAKING OFFICERS AND ALWAYS
VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT OUR DETECTIVE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS
OUR DISTRICT DETECTIVE, HOMICIDE, ANY KIND OF INTERVIEWS
THAT NEED TO BE CONDUCTED AGAIN DUE TO HIS SKILL AS AN
INTERVIEWER, JUST AN ALL-AROUND GREAT EXAMPLE FOR THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT IS WHY HE IS OUR OFFICER OF THE
MONTH FOR JUNE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
OFFICER, BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, WE HAVE SOME FOLKS
FROM THE COMMUNITY STARTING WITH THE PBA WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SHOW YOU THEIR GRATITUDE.
9:17:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRANDON BARCLAY, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA PBA HERE ON BEHALF OF A
BUNCH OF PEOPLE TODAY.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO YOU FOR A JOB
WELL DONE.
ALSO, ON BEHALF OF PETE BREVI AND BUSCH GARDENS, THEY WANT
TO GIVE YOU FOUR COMPLEMENTARY TICKETS.
I HAVE NOT PREPARED AN INVOCATION ON BEHALF OF STEVE
MICHELINI, BUT I DO HAVE --
[ LAUGHTER ]
-- I DO HAVE THE YUMMY HOUSE FOR YOU.
I HAVE CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP, MEAT MARKET FOR YOU AND I
ALSO HAVE JACKSON'S BISTRO FOR YOU.
THOSE ARE FROM STEVE MICHELINI.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, OFFICER RAMIREZ.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK, I WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT WITH YOU A PERSONALIZED PAVER ALONG THE TAMPA
RIVERWALK.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ENGRAVED ON THE 19th.
WE WILL LET STAFF KNOW SO THAT THEY CAN NOTIFY YOU.
IN ADDITION, SOME OF OUR PARTNERS WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU
WITH GIFTS.
MANTHEY HOSPITALITY IS PRESENTING YOU WITH YACHT STARSHIP,
LOST PEARL, AND PIRATE WATER TAXI TICKETS.
SPLITSVILLE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH A GIFT
CERTIFICATE AND FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:18:59AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN PROMOTING AND PROTECTING THE
FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE TRAINING.
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE, WE WANT TO PRESENT YOU AND YOUR
FAMILY WITH AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO COME SEE US AT THE
HISTORIC MOVIE PALACE.
9:19:19AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, OFFICER RAMIREZ.
GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT AND FOR BEING HERE IN
TAMPA.
THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR YOUR SACRIFICE.
WE WANT TO PRESENT WITH YOU THIS GIFT CARD TO ENJOY A NIGHT
AT THE COLUMBIA, FLAMENCO SHOW, VISIT ULELE OR THE CAFE.
ENJOY AND CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:50AM >> I'M MARY DILLON REPRESENTING STRAZ CENTER FOR THE
PERFORMING ARTS.
OFFICER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
ON BEHALF OF STRAZ, PLEASE ACCEPT SOME TICKETS FOR UPCOMING
PERFORMANCE.
COUPLE THAT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITEMS YOU'RE GOING TO
RECEIVE AND HAVE A REALLY WONDERFUL EVENING.
THANK YOU.
9:20:08AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M LORI OSBORNE WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
NICE TO MEET YOU, OFFICER RAMIREZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND NOT ONLY SACRIFICING
YOURSELF BUT TRAINING THE NEXT GENERATION OF RECRUITS AND
KEEPING OUR CITY SAFE.
THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO A PERFORMANCE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING YOU SOON.
9:20:36AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIR.
BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
FIRST, I HAVE TO CONGRATULATE ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS.
WE HOSTED THIS YEAR'S BADGE BOWL AT THE FACILITY THIS PAST
WEEKEND.
VERY HUMBLED AND HONORED TO DO SO.
THE FIREMEN CAME IN ON THE WIN THERE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
I ENCOURAGE US ALL, WHAT A GREAT EVENT.
I HOPE TO PACK THAT PLACE NEXT YEAR.
OFFICER RAMIREZ, THANK YOU.
YOUR STORY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOUR FAMILY FOR THEIR SACRIFICE AND
SUPPORT THEY GIVE YOU TO ALLOW YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR
GREAT CITY.
WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC.
ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS THEIR OWN GAME BALL
WITH YOUR NAME.
HEARING YOUR STORY, YOU DESERVE THAT GAME BALL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE MICROPHONE IS IN
THE PODIUM.
9:21:37AM >> LEO GEARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
CONGRATULATIONS, OFFICER RAMIREZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I SAY IT EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT
PUTS THE UNIFORM ON EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MAKE THE CITY SAFE
FOR US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM
JENNIFER CURRY, ALSO A GIFT CARD AS WELL AND FULL FREE
MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE AND ALSO --
9:22:07AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
CARD.
HAVE DINNER, TAKE TIME OFF, YOU DESERVE IT.
9:22:30AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA AT LOWRY PARK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I HAVE IN HONOR OF YOU AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO THAT
YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN GO AND ENJOY ALL OF THE ANIMALS.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A LITTLE PLUSH HERE.
SO YOUR KIDS CAN FIGHT LIKE MAYBE SHARE IT, I DON'T KNOW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT IT IS AN ELEPHANT TODAY.
ELEPHANTS ARE VERY VERSATILE LIKE IN YOUR STORY.
DID YOU KNOW THEIR TRUNKS CAN SERVE AS A SNORKEL WHEN THEY
GO UNDERWATER AS WELL AS TO FEED THEMSELVES?
ANYWAY.
MY LITTLE ANIMAL FACT FOR THE DAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I REALLY RESPECT YOU AND EVERYONE WHO PUTS ON THE UNIFORM.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OFFICER RAMIREZ, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL
CITY OF TAMPA, WE'RE PROUD TO HONOR YOU WITH THIS OFFICER OF
THE MONTH PLAQUE.
WE REALLY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
I KNOW YOUR FAMILY THAT IS HERE, INCLUDING YOUR KIDS, WIFE,
EVERYBODY, PARENTS, EVERYBODY, FAMILY, SORRY, ALL THE FAMILY
HERE IS VERY PROUD OF YOU.
SO GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU MAY.
9:23:49AM >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR ALLOWING ME
TO BE HERE TODAY.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL.
I WANT TO THANK THE TPD STAFF.
MY SUPERVISORS WHO ALWAYS SHOW SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE IN MY
CAREER.
I'M GRATEFUL TO RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION.
AND I WANT TO GIVE SPECIAL THANKS TO SQUAD 209.
THIS JOB ISN'T DONE ALONE.
IT'S A GROUP EFFORT.
SO THEY DESERVE THIS AWARD JUST AS MUCH AS I DO.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK MY WIFE, MY KIDS, MY FAMILY.
MY PARENTS, THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
THEY ARE AT HOME.
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SEE THIS LATER.
I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND DOING MY JOB AND SERVING THE
CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO YOUR SQUAD
AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WEARS THE BADGE FOR KEEPING TAMPA
SAFE.
IT'S PART OF WHY TAMPA IS SUCH AN AMAZING CITY AND GETTING
BETTER EVERY DAY IS BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
WE'RE VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE FOR EVERYBODY -- FOR YOU
STANDING HERE AND EVERYBODY STANDING BEHIND YOU AND
EVERYBODY IN THE FIELD RIGHT NOW HELPING TO KEEP THE CITY OF
TAMPA SAFE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR WIFE AND
KIDS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN HIM AT THE PODIUM TO SAY HELLO?
TALK ABOUT PUTTING KIDS ON THE SPOT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
HI.
HOLA.
9:25:30AM >> HOLA.
9:25:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING.
MUST BE VERY PROUD OF YOUR DAD.
9:25:35AM >> MY WIFE DIANA, DAUGHTER NATALIE, SON NATHAN AND SON
MARTIN.
9:25:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, GOOD MORNING, GUYS.
9:25:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:25:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU MUST BE VERY PROUD OF YOUR
FATHER FOR HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WHAT HE DOES FOR THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING HIM THIS MORNING.
9:25:50AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
9:25:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOPE YOU ARE ENJOYING SUMMER SCHOOL.
[ LAUGHTER ]
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:26:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
READY TO GO, SIR?
9:26:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, GO AHEAD.
9:26:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
NEXT WE WILL BE DOING OUR FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
SAME PRINCIPLE APPLIES.
ALWAYS VERY PROUD TO HONOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, IN THIS
CASE AMAZING FIREFIGHTERS.
CAPTAIN JAMES McGREGOR, WE HAVE HERE CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.
9:27:02AM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.
BARBARA TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FIRE CHIEF.
TODAY, IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE CAPTAIN JAMES McGREGOR
AS OUR FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR SERVED AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE OVER 19
YEARS.
THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE HE HAS
CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE,
PROFESSIONALISM AND SERVICE, WHETHER HE IS LEADING HIS CREW,
MENTORING NEW FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHING IN THE CLASSROOM OR
SERVING AS ACTIVE DISTRICT CHIEF, HE APPROACHES EVERY
RESPONSIBILITY WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF DEDICATION AND
PURPOSE.
HE IS CONSTANTLY SEEKING OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN, TO IMPROVE,
AND TO BRING KNOWLEDGE BACK TO HIS CREW AS WELL AS TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE.
THROUGH ADDITIONAL EDUCATION, TRAINING CERTIFICATES AND
ATTENDING TRAINING PROGRAMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HE HAS
DEVELOPED AN IMPRESSIVE DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WILLING TO SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE WITH
OTHERS, HELPING DEVELOP THE NEXT GENERATION OF FIREFIGHTERS
THROUGH RECRUIT TRAINING, IN-SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS AND
DAY-TO-DAY MENTORSHIP.
HE'S COMMIT -- HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVICE EXTENDS BEYOND THE
FIRE SERVICE.
BEFORE JOINING TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, CAPTAIN McGREGOR SERVED
OUR NATION WITH DISTINCT AND PRIDE IN THE UNITED STATES
MARINE CORPS FOR 20 YEARS.
THIS INCLUDES SEVEN YEARS ACTIVE DUTY AND 13 YEARS OF
RESERVE.
HE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE HMX ONE, PRESIDENTIAL HELICOPTER
SQUADRON.
ACTUALLY OVERSAW THAT.
SERVING AS HELICOPTER CREW, WHERE HE EARNED THE PRESIDENTIAL
SERVICE BADGE.
IN ADDITION, HE SERVED MULTIPLE DEPLOYMENTS DURING HIS
MILITARY CAREER AS A FOREIGN SECURITY ADVISOR IN SUPPORT OF
OIF, OEF, TWO MAJOR POST-9/11 U.S. COMBAT OPERATIONS.
THE DISCIPLINE, LEADERSHIP, AND SELFLESS SERVICE THAT DEFINE
HIS MILITARY CAREER CONTINUES TO BE EVIDENT IN EVERYTHING HE
DOES TODAY.
ONE OF HIS GREATEST STRENGTHS IS HIS DEPENDABILITY WHERE
CHALLENGE IS HE TACKLE AND PROJECT TO COMPLETE A PROBLEM.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR IS ALWAYS WILLING TO ASSIST.
HE LEADS BY EXAMPLES, EARNS THE RESPECT OF THOSE HE WORKS
ALONGSIDE AND CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATE THE VALUES THAT
DEFINE PROFESSIONAL.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR DEDICATION TO PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT AND GENUINE DESIRE TO MAKE THOSE AROUND HIM
BETTER HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
HIS PASSION FOR SERVICE IN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITY
MAKES HIM DESERVING OF THIS AWARD.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING CAPTAIN McGREGOR AS
FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAPTAIN, HERE YOU GO, SIR.
STAND HERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
BEFORE WE HONOR YOU, WE HAVE FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HONOR
YOU FROM THE COMMUNITY.
STARTING WITH MR. STOCCO FROM YOUR UNION.
9:29:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, THE MICROPHONE IS IN THE PODIUM.
PLEASE STAND AND SPEAK TOWARDS US SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR YOU.
9:30:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF IFF LOCAL 754.
I AM DOING TWO OTHER PRESENTATIONS, SO EASE BE MINDFUL OF
THE TIME.
FIRST ONE IS ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BEHALF OF BUSCH
GARDENS, FOUR COMPLEMENTARY ADMISSION TO BUSCH GARDENS OF
TAMPA BAY.
BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR DEDICATION.
THE SECOND ONE, UNFORTUNATELY, MR. MICHELINI HAD AN
UNFORTUNATE DEATH IN HIS FAMILY WHICH RESULTED IN HIM NOT
BEING ABLE TO BE HERE.
HE DID RELAY THESE ON BEHALF OF STEVE MICHELINI.
I'LL TRY MY BEST FOR STEVE MICHELINI IMPRESSION.
YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT, I
REPRESENT A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME GIFT CERTIFICATES.
FIRST IS FROM THE CICCIO'S RESTAURANT GROUP.
$50 THERE FOR GIFT CERTIFICATE TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT.
SECOND IS A GIFT CERTIFICATE TO THE YUMMY HOUSE.
AND THEN FOR THE JACKSON'S BISTRO IN THE HARBOUR ISLAND
AREA, HUNDRED DOLLARS TO THE JACKSON'S GROUP.
AND LASTLY TO THE OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE AND MEAT MARKET,
TAKE YOUR FAMILY THERE FOR A HUNDRED DOLLARS AT THE MEAT
MARKET.
THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF STEVE MICHELINI.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL DONE.
WELL DONE, SIR.
WELL DONE.
9:31:36AM >> LASTLY, ON BEHALF OF LOCAL 754 AND ALL OF THE
FIREFIGHTERS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE, NOT JUST TO THE CITY,
BUT ALSO TO THE GREAT COUNTRY AND YOUR FAMILY.
RECENTLY, THE BOSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT LOST A FIREFIGHTER IN A
LINE-OF-DUTY DEATH AT A FIRE.
FIREFIGHTER ROBERT KILDUFF, "BK" KILDUFF, FIREFIGHTER BK WAS
A 24-YEAR VETERAN OF THE BOSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND RANK OF
FIREFIGHTER.
AS REP ALVAREZ SAYS, CAPTAIN McGREGOR IS VERY FAMILIAR
WITH BEING DEPLOYED AS WE HEARD HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE
COUNTRY THROUGH HIS DEPLOYMENT.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AS A FIREFIGHTER, IT IS THE DAILY DEPLOYED.
AND CAPTAIN McGREGOR ALONG WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN TO MY
LEFT FROM THE FIRE CHIEF ON DOWN, PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE
LINE EVERY DAY THAT THEY WALK OUT OF THAT DOOR AND BEING THE
DAILY DEPLOYED TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR
FAMILIES.
WHEN FIREFIGHTER BK RESPONDED TO THE FIRE, AS MANY OF US
KNOW, YOU TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF AND YOUR SHOES ARE LEFT ON THE
SIDE OF THE APPARATUS FOR THE MOST PART BEFORE YOU GET ON.
WHEN FIREFIGHTER BK DIDN'T RETURN, THEY OUTLINED HIS SHOES
IN THE APPARATUS BAY AND THEY ARE GOING TO ENGRAVE "TOO BIG
TO FILL."
THAT IS THE RISK WE TAKE EVERY DAY WHEN WE PUT ON THIS
UNIFORM TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR BROTHERS AND
SISTERS.
TO ALL FIREFIGHTERS, SPECIFICALLY CAPTAIN McGREGOR AND HIS
FAMILY, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:20AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
MARYBETH WILLIAMS ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE RIVERWALK.
THAT IS A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE TAMPA RIVERWALK, I WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT WITH YOU A PERSONALIZED ENGRAVED PAVER ALONG THE
TAMPA RIVERWALK.
WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT HAS BEEN ENGRAVED.
IN ADDITION, MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU
WITH SOME GIFTS.
MANTHEY HOSPITALITY HAS SOME TICKETS TO YACHT STARSHIP, LOST
PEARL, PIRATE WATER TAXI.
THIS IS FLORIDA AVENUE BREWING.
GIFT CERTIFICATE TO THEIR ESTABLISHMENT AND SPLITSVILLE HAS
AN ADULT NIGHT OUT FOR YOU.
WE HOPE YOU ENJOY AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, CAPTAIN.
COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
WE WOULD BE HONORED TO SHOW THE MOVIE OF YOUR STORY BECAUSE
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN INCREDIBLE ONE.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
TO COME JOIN US TO SEE A MOVIE OR SHOW WITH AN ANNUAL
MEMBERSHIP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, CAPTAIN McGREGOR.
GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN TAMPA.
PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY PLEASE ENJOY A NIGHT
OFF IN YBOR CITY, COLUMBIA, WHEREVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:34:53AM >> HI, COUNCIL.
LORI OSBORNE WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
CONGRATULATIONS, CAPTAIN McGREGOR.
IT IS TRULY AN HONOR TO SHAKE YOUR HAND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE NOT ONLY IN THE MILITARY BUT NOW
ALSO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE SO HAPPY AND JUST I GUESS PROUD OF THE FACT THAT YOU
HAVE CONTINUED TO DEDICATE YOUR LIFE TO BEING BETTER AND
HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR SACRIFICING AND YOUR SUPPORT FOR HIM.
ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE
YOU COME AND HAVE YOUR FAMILY COME TO LISTEN TO A
PERFORMANCE.
9:35:28AM >> THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MARY DILLON, STRAZ CENTER.
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL STRAZ CENTER, CAPTAIN, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTRY.
PLEASE ACCEPT TICKETS TO AN UPCOMING PERFORMANCE, AND ENJOY
WITH YOUR FAMILY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:35:52AM >> LEO GEARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
LISTENING TO YOUR RESUM IS AMAZING.
NOT ONLY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO WITH THE
MILITARY.
I RESPECT, JUST LIKE THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, I RESPECT
YOU GUYS.
IT'S A TOUGH JOB, THANKLESS JOB, SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.
ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, I WANT TO PRESENT A
HANDWRITTEN LETTER FROM JENNIFER CURRY HERSELF WITH A GIFT
CARD INSIDE AS WELL AND FULL MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL
VEHICLE AND ALSO APPAREL IN THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:33AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING.
CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.
YOU DESERVE IT.
TAKE THE TIME, ENJOY ALL THE GIFTS YOU ARE GIVEN.
YOU TRULY DESERVE IT.
I HAVE A FEELING WE'LL SEE HIM AT THE END OF THE YEAR AT THE
TAMPA FIREMEN'S BANQUET.
WONDERFUL STORY YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND STEPP'S TOWING, ENJOY DINNER, TOP
GOLF, WHATEVER IT IS YOU LIKE TO DO.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:02AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARY LOU BAILEY HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
I SERVE ON THE BOARD THERE.
I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
IT'S AN HONOR TO MEET YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE MILITARY AND FOR PUTTING
YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE AGAIN IN THIS.
WE HAVE A FAMILY MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU.
ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH.
I HAVE A MACAW HERE.
MACAW IS A BEAUTIFUL BIRD, BUT THEY HAVE FORMED LIFELONG
SOCIAL BONDS, AND THE TEAMWORK THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE
EMBODY IN BOTH OF YOUR CAREERS I THINK IS MINDFUL OF THAT.
WHEN THEY ARE PARTICULARLY CLOSE, THEY FLY WING TO WING WITH
THE BIRDS THAT THEY LIKE.
ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BRIAN FORD AGAIN WITH THE BUCCANEERS.
VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
CAPTAIN McGREGOR, YOUR STORY IS UNBELIEVABLE.
NOT ONLY YOUR SERVICE FOR OUR GREAT CITY BUT OUR GREAT
COUNTRY AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR FAMILY'S SACRIFICE.
AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY, WE HAVE A LITTLE
TRADITION, OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, ANYBODY THAT GOES OVER
AND ABOVE GETS THEIR OWN GAME BALL.
THERE IS YOUR GAME BALL.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SIR, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY, AS MANY
HAVE SAID NOT ONLY FOR YOUR SERVICE IN UNIFORM, BUT SO MANY
OTHER FIREFIGHTERS INCLUDING CHIEF TRIPP SERVING IN THE
UNITED STATES MILITARY FOR SO LONG, INCLUDING THE UPCOMING
250th ANNIVERSARY OF THE COUNTRY'S FOUNDING.
IT IS OUR PLEASURE AND HONOR.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:50AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
KIND OF UNEXPECTED.
VERY APPRECIATIVE OF IT.
I JUST WANT TO THANK MY DISTRICT CHIEF FOR PUTTING ME IN FOR
IT.
VERY GRATEFUL.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY FAMILY, MY WIFE AND KIDS FOR
PUTTING UP WITH ME SO LONG DOING THIS AND MY CREW.
I'D SAY I HAVE THE BEST CREW ON THE JOB PERSONALLY.
I WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS WITHOUT THEM.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE
ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION,
YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY -- I WILL --
[ LAUGHTER ]
ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE TO
OUR COUNTRY AND THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
KEEPING US SAFE IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR PUBLIC SERVICE, AND WE
ALWAYS REMEMBER ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THE DEDICATION OF
TAMPA FIRE AND WHAT YOU BRING TO OUR COMMUNITY WHEN PEOPLE
ARE IN TIMES OF NEED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRING YOUR FAMILY UP TO THE PODIUM?
ARE THEY HERE?
9:40:03AM >> YES, THEY ARE.
9:40:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY ARE LOVING THIS.
LOVING THIS.
9:40:15AM >> MY WIFE CARRIE, OLDEST DAUGHTER BELLA, YOUNGEST MIA, MY
SON JOEY, MY MOM ANN AND MY BROTHER SHANE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THESE ARE THE REAL HEROES THAT TOLERATE
EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:40:38AM >> VERY MUCH SO.
9:40:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE THE POLO SHIRT.
TAMPA BAY -- TAMPA BAY RAYS.
OKAY.
GOOD.
[ LAUGHTER ]
GO RAYS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.
WE'LL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO LET EVERYBODY SHIFT.
THAT'S A BUNCH OF FIREFIGHTERS RIGHT THERE.
BRIAN, I TRIED TO CALL YOU.
GIVE ME A CALL.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'LL PROBABLY BE SITTING HERE.
9:42:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN WE GET HIM TO SAY THAT AT THE PODIUM?
9:42:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL HAVE HIM EXPLAIN IT -- MR. SHELBY,
TAG, YOU'RE IT.
WHERE IS MOLLY?
MOLLY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
DO YOU WANT TO STAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
YOU GUYS WILL STAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT?
WE'LL DO IT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY.
9:42:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, HERE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY
ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT YOU'LL
HAVE A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S
MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY
COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
NOW, PER COUNCIL'S RULES, PREFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THOSE
SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEMS FIRST.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK, YOU SHOULD HAVE FILLED OUT A
SPEAKER'S CARD AND PLACED IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS.
CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BEGINS.
EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
APPROACH AND SPEAK.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT AN ITEM THAT IS DESIGNATED ON
YOUR AGENDA AS PUBLIC HEARING, THOSE ARE ITEMS 39 TO 51.
THE TIME TO SPEAK TO THOSE ARE WHEN EACH OF THOSE ITEMS IS
CALLED UP DURING THE MEETING, AND WHEN THE PUBLIC MEETING IS
OPENED YOU'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THERE IS A SIGN-IN SHEET OUTSIDE.
WE ASK THAT YOU FILL THAT OUT AND PUT YOUR NAME ON THERE
THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL
RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS AND OLD CITY HALL FOR THE
REMAINDER OF TODAY'S MEETING.
NOW, NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF
REPORTS, SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM LISTED
UNDER STAFF REPORTS, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IS THE TIME TO
SPEAK.
FINALLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC PLEASE BE AWARE
THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
9:45:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OKAY.
THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER WILL BE PAMELA CANNELLA
FOLLOWED BY BROCK MANGUS.
THESE ARE ON AGENDA ITEMS AND THEN FOLLOWED BY EMILY
HINSDALE.
IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, YOU CAN STAND OVER HERE TO YOUR
RIGHT, OUR LEFT.
GOOD MORNING, PAM.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:45:31AM >> OKAY.
MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 62.
I BELIEVE THIS RESOLUTION IS A VIOLATION OF OUR RIGHT TO
FREE SPEECH BOTH UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED
STATES CONSTITUTION AND ARTICLE 1, SECTION 4 OF THE FLORIDA
CONSTITUTION.
THE ULTIMATE INTENTION OF THIS RESOLUTION APPEARS TO BE TO
DISCOURAGE PUBLIC COMMENT BY PLACING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE
END OF THE MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE NO NOTICE OF
THE TIME FRAME WHEREIN THEY WILL FINALLY BE ALLOWED TO
EXERCISE THEIR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS TO SPEAK ON VITAL TOPICS
FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS RESOLUTION WOULD EFFECTIVELY HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT ON
SPEECH.
SILENCING THE PUBLIC'S VOICE AND DIMINISHING THEIR
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIALS MIGHT THINK,
THEY ARE JUST THAT -- ELECTED.
WHICH MEANS THEY -- YOU -- ARE HERE TO SERVE THE BEST
INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ELECTED YOU.
THE BEST SOLUTION, PUT PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST AFTER THE
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
LET US SAY WHAT WE COME TO SAY, AND WE GO WITH OUR BUSINESS
-- GO OUT AND DO OUR BUSINESS.
CHANGING THE PROCESS, SIGNING CARDS, CHANGING AND MOVING
TIME SLOTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WOULD WE BE ALLOWED TO
SPEAK?
SOMETIMES WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT OR FOR HOW LONG.
CONFUSES PEOPLE.
WHEN THEY DON'T COME WEEKLY AND HAVE PREPARED THEIR TIME
ACCORDING TO YOUR FINAL AGENDA.
IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU.
9:47:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
BROCK MANGUS FOLLOWED BY EMILY HINSDALE, FOLLOWED BY
MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
GOOD MORNING, START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:48:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BROCK MANGUS.
LIVE IN WEST TAMPA HEIGHTS NEAR TAMPA BAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
SPEAKING ON 53 AND 59, PRIMARILY 53.
I SUPPORT SLOWING DOWN DRIVERS IN SCHOOL ZONES, ESPECIALLY
IN THE SCHOOL ZONE CLOSEST TO WHERE I LIVE.
MY CONCERN IS NOT THAT GOAL.
IT'S THE CONTRACT PIGGY BACKING HCSO AGREEMENT WITH RED
SPEED APPROVED IN FEBRUARY BY COUNCIL.
THE SAFEGUARDS THAT CHIEF BERCAW PROMISED IN THE FEBRUARY 17
MEMO TO COUNCIL ARE MEANINGFUL, BUT THEY REALLY DON'T
CAPTURE THE FULL RISKS IN USING THIS TECHNOLOGY.
THE CHIEF'S MEMO MAKES FOUR PROMISES.
CAMERAS WON'T BE USED FOR REMOTE SURVEILLANCE, WON'T BE
MONITORED IN REAL TIME, WON'T BE TURNED INTO AUTOMATED
LICENSE PLATE READERS AND WON'T SHARE DATA WITH THE COMPANY
KNOWN AS FLOCK SAFETY.
CITY CODE AND CURRENT STATE STATUTES SUPPORT THIS, THE
AGREEMENT ITSELF DOES NOT.
MY CONCERN IS NOT THAT THE CITY OR COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT
WILL MISUSE THIS DATA TODAY OR TOMORROW.
IT'S THAT ONCE THESE POLES ARE PUT IN THE GROUND, THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS SURVEILLANCE DRAG NET THAT'S
HAPPENING IN OTHER STATES IS ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION AWAY.
THE CAMERA VENDOR INDUSTRY HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF
GETTING STATE LEGISLATURES TO REWRITE THESE STATUTES IN
THEIR FAVOR AND AS AN EXAMPLE, RED SPEED DONATED $10,000 TO
FRIENDS OF CHAD CHRONISTER PAC ONCE THE CONTRACT WAS SIGNED.
A FUTURE LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENT SECURED THROUGH THE SAME
LOBBYING PLAYBOOK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RUNNING IN NORTH
CAROLINA, IN GEORGIA AND RED SPEED IN FLORIDA, COULD CONVERT
A NETWORK OF SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY CAMERAS INTO NODES OF A MASS
SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.
WITH NO NEW POLES REQUIRED.
ONE ASK, AMEND THE CONTRACT, INCORPORATING RESTRICTIONS
PROMISED BY THE CHIEF EXPRESSLY.
ADD A NO ALPR SHARING CLAUSE SO RED SPEED IS CONTRACTUALLY
BOUND, NOT JUST STATUTORILY BOUND.
FOR THE RECORD, ALSO, BY THE WAY, TAMPA BAY ELEMENTARY
ALREADY HAS MOTOROLA ALPRs ON BOTH MacDILL AND TAMPA
BAY BOULEVARD THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.
DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE BEEN TURNED ON.
DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE PRE- THIS CONTRACT
BEING SIGNED.
I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.
THANK YOU.
9:50:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EMILY HINSDALE FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE,
FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
9:50:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, EMILY HINSDALE.
I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM 59, REFERENCING A MEMO
FROM CITY OF TAMPA MOBILITY STAFF CONCERNING ADDING LARGER
FLASHING SIGNS TO SCHOOL ZONE AREAS.
I'M URGING CITY COUNCIL TO USE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA PENALTY
FUNDS TO CREATE BETTER ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND SCHOOLS
RATHER THAN ADDING LARGER SIGNS.
IF YOU HAVEN'T MET ME BEFORE, WHICH I THINK YOU PROBABLY
HAVE, I AM THE PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF SIDEWALK STOMPERS, A
SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL NONPROFIT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
WE DESIGN AND ADVISE ON PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT WALKING AND
BIKING TO SCHOOL.
WITH NO SCHOOL BUSES PROVIDED FOR KIDS LIVING LESS THAN TWO
MILES OF SCHOOLS IN OUR STATE, WALKING AND BIKING TO SCHOOL
IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF OUR COMMUNITY'S TRANSPORTATION
NEEDS.
WE'VE CONSULTED WITH OVER 40 ELEMENTARY AND K-8 SCHOOLS
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND THIS INCLUDES UNDERSTANDING THE
MAJOR SAFETY CONCERNS AT EACH SCHOOL.
THE NUMBER ONE WORRY ABOUT STUDENT SAFETY AT EVERY SCHOOL WE
HAVE TALKED TO IT SPEED.
CARS GO TOO FAST AROUND SCHOOLS.
A REFERENCE TO THE MEMO FROM THE MOBILITY STAFF, I
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT ADDING LARGER
AND MORE SIGNS WILL NOT MAKE A NOTABLE DIFFERENCE IN
CHILDREN'S SAFETY AND WOULD, IN FACT, DIVERT SIGNIFICANT
FUNDING FOR MORE EFFECTIVE SPEED CONTROL MEASURES.
THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS ARE A CRITICAL
COMPONENT OF SPEED CONTROL AROUND SCHOOLS.
THEY ARE BEING PLACED IN CONJUNCTION WITH EXISTING FLASHING
SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS THAT MEET FEDERAL AND STATE DESIGN
REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS GREAT, AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS PROGRAM GET
STARTED IN TAMPA.
WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS WHAT TO DO WITH THE SPEED
TICKET PENALTY FUNDS.
SOME OF THE FUNDS ACCRUED FROM SPEED CAMERA PENALTIES ARE
ALLOCATED BY STATE STATUTE AND BY OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE REMAINING
FUNDS BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGNED
TO REDUCE SPEEDS.
FOR EXAMPLE, SPEED REDUCTION TECHNIQUES LIKE BULB OUTS,
CHICANES, NARROWER TRAVEL LANES AND BIKE LANES, YES, BIKE
LANES REDUCE SPEED, RAISED CROSSWALKS TO MAKE WALKERS,
ESPECIALLY YOUNG WALKERS, MORE VISIBLE.
ALL-WAY STOPS AND FLASHING CROSSING BEACONS, SIDEWALKS AND
BIKE FACILITIES TO GET CHILDREN OUT OF THE ROAD.
ALL DRIVERS MAKE MISTAKES.
ANY SIGN CAN BE MISSED IF A DRIVER ISN'T FULLY PAYING
ATTENTION.
AND WE'RE ALL HUMAN.
IT HAPPENS.
HOWEVER, IF THE ROAD DESIGN FORCES DRIVERS TO GO MORE
SLOWLY, OUR SCHOOLS WILL BE SAFER AND CHILDREN ARRIVING BY
CAR, BIKE, FOOT WILL BE SAFER.
9:53:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, EMILY.
MICHELLE.
9:53:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
I'M HERE TO --
9:53:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:53:31AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT AGENDA 10 ABOUT GETTING $2,000 TO
HELP WITH PARKS.
MY PARK WAS DESTROYED BY OVERDEVELOPING AND UPROOTED
WETLANDS.
AND IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE, INCREASED WETLANDS AND HABITAT
CONTRIBUTED TO THE INCREASED FLOOD IN SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO THIS IS MY HOUSE RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S MY HOUSE.
THIS IS WHERE IT USED TO BE.
NOW IT'S APARTMENTS.
DEFINITELY WETLANDS AND MANGROVES.
THIS PARK IS GETTING DESTROYED.
THIS PARK USED TO BE ALL GREEN.
CHILDREN PLAYING, NICE AND HAPPY.
NOW -- ARE YOU READY?
IT LOOKS LIKE A DESERT.
DESTROYED BY REROUTEING OF WATER IN 2020 TO HUSH ME UP ABOUT
WHAT THEY DID.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
THIS IS MY AREA.
THEY HAVE THE WATER THAT GOES ALONG TAPPAN PARK AND GOES OUT
TO THE OVERFLOW, AND THEN THEY HAVE THESE TRENCHES ALONG
PRESCOTT WHICH STILL HAS NOT BEEN CLEANED.
THEY ENDED UP HAVING A WATER MAIN BREAK.
THIS IS THE ONE GEORGE COX MADE, STRAIGHT OUT TO THE BAY.
OURS NEEDS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
THIS IS THE ILLEGAL REROUTING OF THE WATER WITH A VERY SMALL
PIPE THAT CAN'T EVEN HOLD THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT CAN GET
IN THERE AND GO OUT.
WHAT THEY DID WAS, THEY CAME OUT.
THEY TRIED TO FIX IT AND ENDED UP HAVING A MAJOR WATER MAIN
BREAK.
NOW, THIS IS WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE, AND THIS IS WHAT
THEY DID.
IF YOU CAN SEE HOW BIG THAT HOLE IS.
IT'S JUST LEFT THERE, NEGLECTED.
THEY ENDED UP MAKING A TRENCH THAT GOES THIS WAY.
NOW, 15 MINUTES OF RAIN GOES TO THE PARK WHERE IT NEVER EVEN
WENT NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THIS.
THIS IS WHAT IT WAS PROJECTED TO LOOK LIKE.
SO THIS IS MY HOUSE.
IN ACTUALITY, THIS WAS ALL PREMEDITATED.
THE WATER IS GOING TO GO TO ME.
THIS IS REALLY SAD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO WHEN I SEE MY SON, I NEED A PARK FOR HIM.
I NEED SOMEWHERE FOR HIM TO PLAY.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT CHILD HAS SUFFERED ENOUGH
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED HELP GETTING TOXINS TO TEST THE
LAND FOR LEAD POISONING AND STUFF BECAUSE MY SON HAD CANCER
TWICE.
9:56:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY CLARENCE TOWNS.
AFTER THIS OFF, IT'S THE OFF-AGENDA ITEMS.
9:56:44AM >> MENTESNOT.
SAY UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
SO THAT CAME WAY BEFORE 1214, THE MAGNA CARTA.
WAY BEFORE 1776 OR 1789, UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
WE AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FREE FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS.
MILLIONS OF YEARS.
BUT FOR THE LAST THOUSAND YEARS, 1500 YEARS, WE HAVE
EXPERIENCED NO FREEDOM.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT.
YOU CAN JUST SEE IT THE WAY IT EVOLVES.
YOU CAN SEE THE HATRED FOR THE AFRICAN EVOLVE.
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT IN THIS BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
WAY THEY TRY TO CIRCUMVENT PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO ARTICULATE,
CIRCUMVENT THE ABILITY, SUPPRESS THE ABILITY TO HAVE FREEDOM
OF SPEECH.
SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SOMEONE TAKING TIME TO COME DOWN HERE
TO HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BUT EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TRIED,
THEY HAVE TRIED IT BEFORE.
WHEN THEY HAD PERRY HARVEY SITTING UP THERE, WHEN THEY HAD
THE SAME MAN SITTING UP THERE, THE ONE ON THE END RIGHT
HERE.
I'VE BEEN TO JAIL NUMEROUS TIMES RIGHT HERE FROM THIS CITY
COUNCIL AND I'M STILL HERE STILL STANDING.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS NOW THEY WANT TO DO AND REARRANGE
SOMETHING -- THEY HAVE TRIED ALL THAT NONSENSE BEFORE.
BUT IT'S FOR GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE INDUSTRY, AND RULING CLASS
SUPPRESSING THE HUMAN VOICE.
THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE A HUMAN BEING.
THEY WANT YOU TO BE A TOOL, AN INSTRUMENT, AN INSTRUMENT OF
CAPITALISM.
YOU ARE IN A BUILDING WHERE YOU ARE TALKING POLITICS AND YOU
DON'T EVER HEAR ANYONE.
WE NEVER HEAR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR DISTRICT.
NEVER HEARD THE WORD REPARATIONS COME OUT OF A BLACK
PERSON'S MOUTH THAT HAVE SAT HERE IN THIS NASTY BUILDING.
NEVER.
YOU'VE GOT BLACK POLITICIANS MUZZLED, MUZZLED.
YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD THE WORD REPARATIONS, FREE OUR
PRISONERS FOR VICTIMLESS CRIMES, POVERTY.
YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD THOSE WORDS COME OUT OF THE MOUTH OF A
BLACK POLITICIAN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
IT'S A DISGRACE.
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS JUST CATCH THE PEOPLE, PUT THE
MICROCHIP IN THEM AND CONTROL THEM.
IT'S THE SAME THING THEY ARE DOING WITH THE RED LIGHT
CAMERAS.
YOU NEVER HERE OUR REPRESENTATIVES SAY THEY ARE
DISPROPORTIONATELY DISTRIBUTED INSIDE THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH THE SCHOOL VIOLATIONS.
IT'S DISGRACEFUL.
IT'S DISGRACEFUL YOU ALL DON'T LIKE TO HEAR PEOPLE SPEAK FOR
THREE MINUTES.
THREE MINUTES AND YOU ALL ARE SUPPOSED TO BE POLITICIANS.
9:59:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
CLARENCE FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
GOOD MORNING, CLARENCE.
10:00:00AM >> MY NAME IS CLARENCE B. TOWNS.
I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE STOLEN ALLEY PART TWO.
BACK ON MAY 7, I TALKED ABOUT THE STOLEN ALLEY AND I PASSED
AROUND SOME LITERATURE.
I HAVE SOMETHING FOR EACH ONE OF YOU ALL WHERE YOU CAN GO
ALONG WITH ME.
EIGHT COPIES THERE.
IF YOU UNFOLD THE FIRST ONE, YOU WILL SEE THE BLACK BOX
SHOWING THE ALLEY WITH A SEWER.
YOU'LL SEE THE MANHOLE COVERS.
YOU'LL SEE THE LINE.
YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, EVERYTHING THAT IS CITY OWNED
PROPERTY.
JUST UNFOLD THE FIRST PAGE.
IT JUST FOLDS FLAT OUT.
JUST FOLD OUT AND FOLDS COMPLETELY OUT.
THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
BLACK BOX UP TOP, THE ADDRESS ON THERE, 2704 NORTH 32nd
STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33605, SHOWING ALLEY AND SEWER.
IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN LINE MEANS
CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
YOU'LL SEE THE MANHOLE COVER IS GREEN.
THAT MEANS CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
IF YOU TURN THE PAGE 2 OF 6, THE NEXT PAGE OVER, YOU'LL SEE
THAT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLACK WITHOUT THE ALLEY.
THIS DON'T SHOW ALLEY.
WHY NOT?
BECAUSE IT WAS STOLEN.
YOU GO TO PAGE 3 OF 6, YOU SEE THAT BLACK AREA, YOU SEE THE
ALLEY, THAT'S HOW IT SHOWED WITH AN ALLEY.
WHEN YOU DON'T STEAL IT.
PAGE 4 OF 6, YOU'LL SEE THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT PROPERTY AT
THAT PARTICULAR ADDRESS AT 2704 NORTH 32nd STREET.
IT DOESN'T MENTION AN ALLEY AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S STOLEN.
YOU GO TO FIVE OR SIX, YOU'LL SEE A DESCRIPTION OF THE
LADY'S PROPERTY THERE, AND IT SHOWS THAT'S AT 2705 NORTH
33rd STREET.
YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU CLOSE AN ALLEY, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE
REAR.
THEN ON PAGE 6 OF 6, IF YOU WANT TO READ THIS WITH ME, YOU
CAN.
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONER GWENDOLYN A. MYERS, ALSO A
FORMER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EMPLOYEE, WHO LIVES AT 2704 NORTH
32nd STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33605, SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN A
PASS TO STEAL CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY BECAUSE SHE IS AKA,
ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA, AND THE SORORITY SISTER OF PRESIDENTIAL
HOPEFUL KAMALA HARRIS.
IN CLOSING, THE TOTAL TRUTH IS OUT THERE.
JUST FOLLOW THE TRAIL OF WHAT WAS CHANGED AND TO WHOM'S
FAVOR IT WAS CHANGED.
ORGANIZED STEALING IS WRONG.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE AN FBI
INVESTIGATION.
10:03:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
ASHLEY FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
GOOD MORNING, ASHLEY.
10:03:27AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
MY iPAD IS DEAD.
BUT BECAUSE I HAVE LITTLE HISTORY LESSON SITTING IN MY CAR
WE'LL DO SOMETHING RELEVANT TO THE 1890s.
WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE AFRO CUBAN SECTOR OF THINGS JUST
A LITTLE BIT.
NOW, I JUST SPOKE TO ONE OF MY SOURCES AND SHE IS ACTUALLY
AFRO CUBAN.
NEVER PUBLICLY IDENTIFIED AS IT, AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THERE
BEING SOMEWHAT OF A SHAME OF BEING LABELED AS AFRO.
EITHER WEREN'T CUBAN ENOUGH, BLACK ENOUGH.
THEY LABELED THEMSELVES BLACK.
AFRO CUBANS HAD TO ASSIMILATE INTO BLACK CULTURE WHEN THEY
CAME HERE.
BLACK PEOPLE DIDN'T NEED TO LEARN SPANISH.
THEY DIDN'T NEED TO LEARN THEIR CULTURE, THE FOOD AND ALL
THE THINGS.
I KNOW IN TAMPA WE HAVE DEFINITELY PUSHED THE STORY OF AFRO
CUBAN, CUBAN PEOPLE ALWAYS MENDING TOGETHER.
BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY SEGREGATION AMONGST THAT CULTURE
WITH WHITE AND BLACK CUBANS.
I WANT TO PREFACE IT WITH THAT.
WHAT STARTED ME DOWN A RABBIT HOLE WAS THIS ARTICLE HERE.
A COLORED SCHOOL AT THE CORNER OF 13th AND 8th AVENUE
HAS AN ENROLLMENT OF 137 PUPILS, AVERAGE ATTENDANCE OF 128.
CRISTINA JOHNSON, ENDS UP CHRISTINA MEACHAM IS THE
PRINCIPAL.
THE DAUGHTER OF CYRUS CHARLES, ASSISTANT.
SURPRISING TO NOTE THAT THE PROGRESS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
SCHOOL, THEY ARE UNDER SPLIT GOVERNMENT AND YOUNG MINDS LED
IN THE PROPER CHANNELS OF MENTAL AND MORAL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY WERE VERY SURPRISED THEY WERE WELL-MANNERED CHILDREN,
UNFORTUNATELY.
THIS, ACCORDING TO TONY PIZZO, WAS THE BOARDING HOUSE RIGHT
HERE.
MUST HAVE ALSO BEEN A SCHOOL BECAUSE IT IS AT THE CORNER OF
13th AND 8th.
WHAT IS CURRENTLY AT THE CORNER OF 13th AND 8th, ANYBODY
KNOW?
MARTI PARK.
OKAY, BUT WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE COLORED SCHOOL
THAT WAS IN THAT LOCATION, WHICH I FIND VERY INTERESTING.
THERE IS A WOMAN NAMED SUSAN GREENBAUM WROTE A BOOK.
SUMMER READING, ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED.
"MORE THAN BLACK: AFRO CUBANS IN TAMPA."
DEFINITELY CHECK THAT OUT.
SHE CLAIMS THAT PAULINA PEDROSO AND ROBERTO PEDROSO LIVED ON
12TH AND 8TH, NOT 13TH AND 8TH, SO I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
VERY INTERESTING TO ME.
HERE IS A SANBORN MAP SHOWING 12th AND 8th.
THIS IS 13th AND 8th WHERE THE BOARDING HOUSE, SLASH,
SCHOOL WAS LOCATED.
1886, THIS IS A PLAT MAP SHOWING THE PLAT OF LAND.
THEY HAD DIFFERENT NAMES.
IT WAS GEORGIA, I GUESS, AVENUE AND 7th AVENUE ALONG HERE
AND THIS WAS 13th AVENUE.
AND THIS WAS 12th.
HERE IS THE DEED.
AND THE PEDROSO FAMILY IDENTIFIED AS BLACK.
I WANTED TO SHARE THEIR NAMES HERE.
THANK YOU.
10:06:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
VERY INTERESTING.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND JAMIE ADAIR AND GLORIA SIMS.
CAB.
10:06:55AM >> I THINK WE ALL HAVE ONE GOOD CAUSE LEFT IN US.
WE ARE GOING TO FIX THE SQUEAKY DOOR NEXT WEEK.
10:07:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT IF WE LIKE THAT SQUEAKY DOOR?
10:07:04AM >> IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
ONLINE IT IS THE MOST ANNOYING THING EVER.
JAMES ADAIR, THE NEIGHBOR WHO CARES.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS LITTLE PROJECT FOR RIGHT AT THREE
MONTHS, AND YOU GUYS GET THE BENEFIT OF IT.
ORIGINALLY WAS ON -- THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE SCHEDULE TO
TALK ABOUT, AND THAT'S WHY I HURRIED UP AND GOT THE
PRESENTATION DONE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COSPONSORED SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA.
WHAT IT IS NOT, JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE.
NOT HOCKEY GAMES, NOT FOOTBALL GAMES.
THIS IS EVENTS THAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES IN-KIND SERVICES
FOR ON THE BEHALF OF THE CITY TO NONPROFITS.
SAME STAFF, DIFFERENT POOL OF MONEY.
FIRST, THERE IS AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED.
BY THE WAY, ALL OF THIS IS IN YOUR E-MAIL WITH ALL THE
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
OBVIOUSLY, WE PREFER NONPROFITS.
THERE IS A COMMITTEE OF FIVE.
THE CITY ADMINISTRATORS, WHICH ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
BUSINESS UNITS ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHO,
WHAT, WHERE GET CONTRIBUTED.
FUNCTIONALLY, THE CITY ABSORBS ALL THESE COSTS AND SOMETIMES
THERE IS AN ACTUAL REAL OUTLAY OF COST.
BIKE RACKS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON CERTAIN EVENTS IS AN ACTUAL
EXPENSE VERSUS LIKE CITY LABOR.
HERE IS THE ACCOUNTING BEHIND THE SCENES, DEPARTMENTS HAVE
THEIR OWN CODING SYSTEM FOR HOW THEY RECORD THIS
INFORMATION.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THEIR BILLING OR THEIR ACCOUNTING.
IT'S JUST THEIR CODING SYSTEM.
STORMWATER, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS THE BEST I THINK IN THE CITY
THROUGH CITY WORKS.
YOU CAN SEE HOW THEIR EQUIPMENT IS USED, HOW THE STAFF IS
USED, WHO GETS PAID OVERTIME, ET CETERA.
IT IS A GREAT RESOURCE.
WHEN I WAS FINDING THE REST OF THE SOURCES, I WAS ABLE TO
GET BALLPARK NUMBERS BACK WITHOUT SEEING THE ACTUAL ANALYTIC
DATA.
MOST PART, IT IS A CODING INSIDE.
AFTER EACH EVENT, PARKS AND REC WILL GATHER THE INFORMATION
AND PUT IT ON THEIR DASHBOARD, WHICH WE'LL SEE HERE IN A
SECOND.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTING FOR COSPONSORED FUNDS
BEYOND THIS DASHBOARD THAT I COULD FIND ANYWHERE.
I THINK PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS LATER WILL BE THAT THERE
IS ACCOUNTING.
THIS IS WHAT THE DASHBOARD LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S PRETTY SMALL.
BY THE WAY, IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE IT, ALL
YOU HAVE TO DO IS E-MAIL AT TEAM ADAIR 813@G MAIL AND I'LL
SEND THIS OUT TO YOU.
THE WAY IT IS SET UP, YOU HAVE THE EVENT NAME, WHO THE HOST
ORGANIZATION IS AND THEN THERE IS A WHOLE MESS LOAD OF DATA
I HAD TO CONDENSE TO FIT ON ONE SHEET FOR YOU.
OVER ON THE BOTTOM, YOU GUYS WON'T SEE THE NUMBERS,
HIGHLIGHT IT BIGGER LATER, BASICALLY THE COSPONSORED AMOUNT
WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES AND THEN THE TOTAL
INVOICED WHICH IS WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID BY THE
NONPROFIT.
EVENT STATS.
LAST YEAR, WE HAD 46 TOTAL COSPONSORED EVENTS.
THE CITY COVERED ABOUT 80% OF THOSE.
TOTAL ON THE BOOKS COSPONSORED WAS ONLY 1.5 MILLION.
SO YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE EVENTS, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD
NUMBER.
I WAS COMPLETELY SURPRISED AND IMPRESSED AND WE GET A GOOD
BANG FOR THE BUCK.
THE HOST CONTRIBUTION IS ONLY 307,000.
10:10:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JAMIE.
BY THE WAY, WE DID GET THE E-MAIL AND I WENT THROUGH ALL OF
IT.
I'M A NERD.
I READ IT ALL.
THANK YOU.
10:10:33AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I'M GREGORY TRY TO PICK UP WHERE JAMIE LEFT OFF BUT NO WAY
I'LL DO AS GOOD A JOB.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE CITY, THE HOST CONTRIBUTION IS $307,100.
THE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE HIGHEST CONTRIBUTION, YOU CAN SEE
TPD, THEN MOBILITY, PARKS AND REC, E.M.S., AND SOLID WASTE.
THE MOST EXPENSIVE EVENTS ARE LISTED HERE, AS YOU CAN SEE,
MLK, GASPARILLA, THE KNIGHT PARADE, THE ST. PATRICK'S PARADE
AND SANTA FEST.
OFF-BOOK EVENTS, GASPARILLA CHILDREN'S AND ADULT PARADE.
THERE IS NO CONSOLIDATED REPORTING HAPPENING ANYWHERE IN THE
CITY.
NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUE NUMBER.
AND IT'S NOT THAT BAD.
SOME DEPARTMENTS LIKE TPD RESTRUCTURE THEIR WORK TO AVOID
INCURRING MORE COSTS.
SO SOME NUMBERS CANNOT BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
I THINK THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO ACCOUNT
FOR ALL THE NUMBERS.
GASPARILLA CHILDREN'S PARADE, YOU CAN SEE HERE WHICH
DEPARTMENT, HOW MUCH EACH ONE OF THEM IS CONTRIBUTING.
THE ADULT PARADE, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, HOW MUCH EACH
DEPARTMENT IS CONTRIBUTING.
I'M SURE JAMIE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DELVE FURTHER INTO THIS IF
YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.
HERE YOU SEE THE TOTAL FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
THE CHILDREN'S, THE ADULT PARADE, THE TOTAL OFF BOOK EVENTS
IS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
THAT'S THE COMBINED.
SO HERE ARE THE SUGGESTIONS AND I HEARTILY SUPPORT THESE.
CREATE EVENTS LINE ITEM BUDGET.
EACH DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE SIMILAR RECORDING.
THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO BUDGET FOR LOSSES IF THEY ARE NOT
REIMBURSED.
IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES A BUDGET, THEY SHOULD DIRECT
ADMINISTRATION -- NONPROFITS PROVIDE A P AND L.
AND TCC STAYS OUT OF EVENT MICROMANAGEMENT BUT IS PROVIDED
TRANSPARENT ANNUAL REPORTING FOR ALL COSPONSORED EVENTS.
ALL RIGHT.
SO, THIS IS ALL THE SUPPORTING MATERIAL.
ANYBODY CAN HAVE IT BY E-MAILING JAMIE AT
TEAMADAIR813@GMAIL.COM.
LET ME USE THE LAST FEW MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA.
THE PROBLEM IS THE AGENDA IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE AGENDA.
IF YOU PUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE SAYING THAT YOUR HEARING
IS GOING TO BE HEARD AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING, NO ONE WOULD
SEND OUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE SAYING THAT.
COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE A FIT, SCHEDULE THE MIRASOL AS A BUNCH
OF OTHER, INSTEAD OF PUTTING MIRASOL ON ITS OWN NIGHT.
CARVER CITY, ALL THE PEOPLE SHOWED UP AND HAD TO GO HOME AT
MIDNIGHT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAY UP UNTIL 2:30 IN THE
MORNING.
THEN THEY WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE TIME CERTAIN AND THEY WERE
NOT GIVEN TIME CERTAIN.
THEY WERE IGNORED AND THE AGENDA FOLLOWED AND THAT'S NOT
RIGHT.
10:13:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GLORIA SIMS FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE POYNOR AND THEN CONNIE
BURTON.
THE LAST SPEAKER WILL BE ROBIN LOCKETT.
IS GLORIA SIMS IN THE HOUSE?
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE DAY FOR HER BIRTHDAY.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
10:14:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT I HAVE SOME BIG ISSUES
WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS DRAINING TO SIT HERE ALL DAY.
I GUARANTEE YOU, NOBODY ELSE SITS HERE ALL DAY MORE THAN I
DO.
AND BY THE TIME YOU GUYS ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY,
EVERYBODY IS COOKED.
IT'S $4 AN HOUR FOR THE FIRST HOUR TO PARK DOWN HERE.
THEN THREE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS EVERY HOUR AFTER THAT.
SO WE'RE TALKING BIG MONEY TO SIT DOWN HERE AND WAIT TO TALK
ABOUT YOUR OFF-AGENDA ITEMS.
I TALK ABOUT OFF-AGENDA ITEMS, TOO, BECAUSE I COME DOWN HERE
AND I TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND YOU GUYS WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE ROME YARD
BEING ON THE BACK BURNER FOR YEARS.
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER ISSUES AS WELL.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA
BUT THEY ARE CITY BUSINESS.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS EFFECTIVE.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROCEDURES FOR EVERY DIFFERENT KIND OF
MEETING.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND I AT LEAST ONCE EVERY MONTH OR TWO
HAVE TO CALL MR. SHELBY OR E-MAIL MR. SHELBY AND SAY, WHEN
IS PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING.
IF I DON'T KNOW AND CARROLL ANN DOESN'T KNOW, WHO IN THE
HELL DOES?
YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ANOTHER LAYER OF COMPLEXITY INTO THE
ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
NUMBER 19, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE PERSON.
IT'S ABOUT THE POLICY.
I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR MR. MORRIS MASSEY.
I LIKE HIM A LOT.
I THINK HE DID EXCELLENT WORK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT FOR
HIM TO RETIRE AND TURN AROUND AND GET UP TO $200,000
CONTRACT, IT SAYS IN THE CHARTER THAT PEOPLE CAN'T LOBBY
WHEN THEY LEAVE THE CITY.
I WOULD ARGUE THAT PUTTING MONEY IN YOUR OWN POCKETBOOK IS
THE ULTIMATE LOBBYING.
THAT IS THE ULTIMATE LOBBYING.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING SOMEBODY ELSE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO
BENEFIT.
YOU'RE PUTTING IT IN YOUR OWN POCKETBOOK.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE BUT IT WAS
SLID UNDER THE RADAR.
SO IF YOU ARE LEAVING THE CITY, YOU DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH
THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS, PERIOD.
LOBBYING OR NOT LOBBYING, YOUR POCKET OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S,
IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
NUMBER 40, PASS THE SIDEWALKS.
NUMBER 53, IF YOU ARE CHANGING THE SIGNS AT SPEED ZONES,
NEED TO SAY ALL DAY LONG.
FROM THE TIME KIDS GET THERE UNTIL THEY LEAVE.
AND HIGH SCHOOLS NEED IT MORE THAN ANYPLACE ELSE.
NO ONE ELSE WALKS THOSE GOOFBALLS TO SCHOOL.
THEY WILL WALK STRAIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU.
I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT A
SCHOOL ZONE WHICH BLOWS MY MIND.
ON MANHATTAN, IT'S A SCHOOL ZONE.
I DON'T GET IT.
THOSE KIDS' FRONTAL LOBES ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND WE HAVE
NO ADULTS OUT THERE WATCHING THEM AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE
SAFE.
SO LET'S MAKE THEM ALL SAFE, NOT JUST LITTLE KIDS.
10:17:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST THE KIDS, STEPHANIE?
JUST THE KIDS?
10:17:20AM >> WELL, NO, MINE IS DEVELOPED.
10:17:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONNIE BURTON FOLLOWED BY ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING, CONNIE.
10:17:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
WE DID NOT VOTE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
FOR ITEM NUMBER 62, I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEBODY TO STEP FORTH
TO SEE WHO MADE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE TO COME DOWN
HERE IS NOT ONLY EXPENSIVE, IT'S EMOTIONALLY CHALLENGING
BECAUSE WE REGURGITATE THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
WITHOUT SEEING THE RESULTS COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY.
IF YOU WANT TO START MOVING THIS AGENDA AROUND, I THINK YOU
NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU'RE ALIGNING YOURSELF
CLOSE TO WHAT WE SEE IN D.C.
DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
DON'T CARE WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY, BUT YET YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THIS BEING AN OPEN DEMOCRACY.
IF YOU CAN'T STAND IT FOR THREE MINUTES, THEN DON'T RUN FOR
OFFICE.
NUMBER 52 -- NO, NUMBER 53, IN AND AROUND YOUNG MIDDLE
SCHOOL, MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL, WE GOT MORE CAMERAS THAN A
LITTLE BIT.
MORE THAN A LITTLE BIT.
THE INSTALLATION OF THE CAMERAS WHEN THEY ARE BEING
PRESENTED AS SAFETY PRECAUTION, IT BECOMES AN ECONOMIC
STRESS FOR IMPOVERISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE.
LAST WEEK, PART OF YOUR WORKSHOP WAS ITEM NUMBER 1 THAT WE
COULD NOT SPEAK ABOUT, BUT I WANT TO SEE HOW THAT $704
MILLION FROM THE COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MONEY, HOW IT'S GOING
TO BE SHARED INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WHO IS MAKING ALL OF THE DECISIONS ABOUT THAT?
WE KEEP -- THERE ARE SIMPLE THINGS PEOPLE ASK FOR, CAN'T GET
IT DONE.
COME ELECTION TIME, WE HEAR ALL THE PROMISES.
YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
THEY GAVE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION WITH THE OVERHEAD SHOTS
OF HOW MANY HOUSES GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE COMMUNITY AT
WHAT PRICE POINT, HOW MANY MILLIONS IT'S GOING TO BE SET
ASIDE FOR THAT, BUT WHEN COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT MONIES ARE
COMING DOWN, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW JUST WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN.
HOW MANY SIDEWALKS GOING TO BE BUILT IN OUR COMMUNITY?
HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SIMPLE INPUT?
RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, TO ME, AKIN TO PEOPLE THAT
WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD BEAUTIFUL MUSEUMS, CHANGE THE NAMES
OF BUILDINGS IN D.C., BUILD BEAUTIFUL PONDS AND YOU THINK
IT'S OKAY.
IT IS NOT OKAY.
WE DESERVE TO KNOW.
10:20:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CONNIE.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
GOOD MORNING, ROBIN.
10:20:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
JUST A FEW THINGS.
MY CONCERN IS IN REGARDS TO THE INSTALLATION OF CAMERAS
WITHIN THE SCHOOL ZONE, WHERE -- I'M JUST ASKING THIS
QUESTION OUT LOUD.
WHERE ARE THEY BEING INSTALLED?
ARE THEY JUST IN ONE SEGMENTED AREA?
INNER CITY?
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IN REGARDS TO HAVING A CONSISTENT CHARGE, IN REGARDS TO
SCHOOL ZONES, WHY NOT PUT SPEED BUMPS?
HIGH SPEED BUMPS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DAMAGE THEIR
CAR.
TRY THAT VERSUS -- THIS IS THE THING THAT MAKES MOST SENSE
TO ME PUTTING A SPEED BUMP OUT THERE, A LARGE SPEED BUMP,
BECAUSE PEOPLE VALUE THEIR CAR VERSUS SPEEDING THROUGH A
SPEED ZONE.
ALL IT TAKES IT ONE TIME.
INSTALLATION.
IN LIEU OF CAMERAS BECAUSE AGAIN REGULATIONS, PEOPLE SAY
THAT THE CAMERAS WON'T BE ON OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL ZONE OR
SCHOOL HOURS, I DON'T TRUST THAT.
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC, IF THERE IS STILL AN OPTION TO
CHANGE IT.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID THIS MORNING,
BUT I THINK PUBLIC COMMENT, IN REGARDS TO PARKING, BECAUSE
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOT A FRIENDLY AREA FOR THE COMMUNITY
TO COME DOWN AND TRY TO COME AND SHARE SOMETHING OR TO EVEN
PARTICIPATE WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN CITY COUNCIL.
THE PARKING FEES ARE CRAZY.
I COME DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK YOU GUYS KNOW, RIGHT?
12, 15 DOLLARS FOR THE TIME THAT I'M HERE.
I NORMALLY STAY UNTIL NOON BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO TO MY JOB.
BUT IN REGARDS TO PARKING FEES, THAT'S CRAZY.
FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME AND EVEN PARTICIPATE.
FINDING A PARKING SPACE IS CRAZY BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS
NOT FRIENDLY TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING DOWN AND SPENDING TIME TO COME
AND STATE THEIR CASE FOR THE THREE MINUTES, I THINK THAT
SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
10:22:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ROBIN.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. BENNETT, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
I'M SORRY.
WE HAVE ONLINE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I FORGOT ABOUT YOU, MY FRIEND.
MICHAEL, START WITH YOUR NAME --
10:23:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
THANKS FOR NOT FORGETTING ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW I LIVE TO MAKE
THESE COMMENTS.
SO, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, TODAY'S NONPROFITS ARE FACING
THE MOST SEVERE DISRUPTION IN MORE THAN A DECADE.
ONE IN THREE LOST GOVERNMENT FUNDING THIS YEAR.
MORE THAN 28,000 NONPROFITS WERE CUT.
THAT'S A 409% INCREASE FROM 2004.
37% ARE OPERATING ON A DEFICIT.
42% RELY ON GOVERNMENT DOLLARS.
AND 86% REPORT MAJOR INFLATION IMPACTS.
-- WHILE RESOURCES --
FUNDING IS TIGHTENED AT EVERY LEVEL.
ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, FEDERAL DEI ROLLED BACK, CHANGING
ABILITY --
FLORIDA SENATE BILL 1124 RESTRICTS DEI-RELATED PROGRAMMING
AND INCREASED COMPLIANCE RISK, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL
BLACK-LED NONPROFITS.
LOCAL BUDGETS ARE TIGHT.
TODAY, OVER 3300 NONPROFITS ARE COMPETING IN AN INCREASING
CROWDED MARKET.
NONPROFIT CAN ACCESS MORE THAN GOVERNMENT DOLLARS, INCLUDING
LOCAL BUSINESSES, CORPORATE FUNDING, FAITH-BASED FUNDING,
ASSOCIATION -- IN 2025, OVER $57 BILLION WERE AWARDED TO
NONPROFITS BY OVER 15,000 FUNDERS WORLDWIDE.
AND GIVEN NONPROFITS THESE TOOLS NEEDED.
OUR CAPACITY BUILDING WORKSHOP IS COMING UP ON JUNE 25th
ONLINE AT 7 P.M.
TEACHES ORGANIZATIONS TO BUILD FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
CREATE CHANGE.
RESEARCH FUNDING, WRITE COMPETITIVE GRANTS.
DESIGN PROGRAMS USING -- STRENGTHEN BOARDS AND DEVELOP
EARNED INCOME STRATEGY.
TODAY, THE CENTER FOR NONPROFIT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
HAS PROVIDED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO OVER 1500 NONPROFITS
AND 35 STATES.
DELIVERING ELITE TRAINING THAT BIG NONPROFITS RECEIVE AND
MAKING IT AVAILABLE FOR SMALL NONPROFITS.
MAKING THEM MORE COMPETITIVE AND MORE SUSTAINABLE.
LAST WEEK, WE MET TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY ON THE
ROME YARD PROJECT.
THE WEST TAMPA AND THE CDC IS COMING TOGETHER TO BUILD A
MORE POWERFUL FORCE IN WEST TAMPA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
SURGRET -- MR. DOSS, I DON'T HAVE A CARD FOR YOU.
10:26:15AM >> YEAH, I CAME UP WHEN THE DOORS WERE CLOSED.
I DID PROMISE NOT TO ACT UP.
BUT THE DOORS WERE CLOSED AND THERE WAS SOME COMMOTION.
THEY ACTUALLY WEREN'T THERE WHEN I GOT THERE.
I GUESS THEY TOOK THEM UP RIGHT BEFORE WHEN THE POLICE LEFT
THE AREA.
OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE SIGNED A CARD.
10:26:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
COULD YOU FILL OUT A CARD WHEN YOU LEAVE?
10:26:40AM >> SURGRET DOSS.
I APPRECIATE THE EXTENSION OF COURTESY FOR SOMETHING THAT SO
MANY OF US ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR.
SOMEBODY SENT ME A MESSAGE AND WANTED ME TO TALK ABOUT THE
PROBLEMS WITH THE FAMILY COURT SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY NOT JUST
IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BUT THIS CAME FROM OUT OF ORANGE
COUNTY, ABOUT THE FACT THAT SO MANY CHILD SUPPORT CASES ARE
TAKING SO LONG TO GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND THE
COMPLICATIONS THAT THEY ARE HAVING.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE, BUT BECAUSE
WE SHARE MONEY ON YouTube FOR SOME REASON.
I USE THIS ON MY PLATFORM AS WELL.
I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE THERE.
I SAW A MESSAGE THAT CAME ACROSS, SO I'LL DEVIATE FROM WHAT
THIS GUY WANTED ME TO TALK ABOUT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT ON MY
OTHER PLATFORM.
YOUNG PEOPLE, THIS IS YOUR FUTURE.
MORE TO PARTICIPATE WITH IT BECAUSE I SAW A COMMENT COME
ACROSS MY TIMELINE SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIRE ANY MORE
MISSILES INTO IRAN UNLESS AMERICAN SOLDIERS GET KILLED.
WELL, THAT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF WAR.
YOUNG PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT MY SERVICE TIME AND I TELL THEM
THE HONOR WAS MINE.
LOOKING BACK ON IT, I DON'T REGRET ANYTHING.
MY FAMILY IS MILITARY.
MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN WORLD WAR II, FATHER WAS MILITARY,
MOTHER AS WELL.
THE BULLETS ARE REAL.
NO RESET BUTTON ON THIS THING.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF WAR ARE FOREVER LASTING.
YOU DON'T GET OVER THEM.
EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THEM ON A LOT OF THINGS,
JOHN McCAIN MADE A COMMENT, THERE'S NOTHING ROMANTIC ABOUT
WAR.
AND HE'S CORRECT.
TOO MUCH SABER RATTLING IS GOING ON FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE
NEVER SERVED.
AND PEOPLE NOW IN HIGH POSITIONS IN OUR GOVERNMENT WHO
DIDN'T SERVE, AND THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO THINK THERE'S
SOMETHING THAT IS REDEEMING IN THAT.
YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE CONTROL.
MOST MOVEMENTS THROUGH THE '50s, '60s, WHAT HAVE YOU,
THINGS THAT BROUGHT AMERICA THE PROGRESS WERE STARTED BY
YOUNG PEOPLE.
PEOPLE FORGET IT.
DR. KING WAS ONLY 39.
MALCOLM WAS 39.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T REACH -- I'M 58.
I'M 19 YEARS OLDER THAN DR. KING WAS.
WE'RE HAVING PEOPLE COMPARE UNDERQUALIFIED PEOPLE, TO PEOPLE
WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED GREATNESS.
SO YOUNG PEOPLE, WE NEED MORE OF YOU ALL TO BE ACTIVE IN
YOUR FUTURE.
EVERYBODY UP HERE FOR THE MOST PART, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ONE IS
LIVING IN THEIR FUTURE.
THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT.
BILOXI MISSISSIPPI, CIVICS IN FIFTH GRADE.
IT WAS EVERY YEAR.
IF I'M CORRECT, WE HAD TO PASS SOME SORT OF CIVICS BASED
CLASSES TO GET OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.
WE HAVE A COUNTRY THAT HAS 48% LITERACY RATE, YET WE WANT TO
PRETEND WE ARE A BEACON OF GREATNESS AROUND THE WORLD.
THAT'S CRAZY.
SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
10:29:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
FOR OUR AGENDA, CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT FOR THE
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
10:29:53AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE APPRECIATION FOR COUNCIL HOSTING OUR
YOUTH CORPS THIS MORNING AS WELL.
IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
I ALSO APPRECIATE COUNCIL MOVING THIS UP IN THE AGENDA.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I WOULD LIKE
TO RECOGNIZE MS. JEAN DUNCAN FOR A SECOND, IF SHE COULD COME
UP.
ALL RIGHT.
AS YOU KNOW, JEAN DUNCAN HAS BEEN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OVER
INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
JEAN SERVED THE CITY OVER 23.5 YEARS AS A PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER, WORKED CLOSELY WITH JEAN THROUGHOUT MY CAREER,
ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS AT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING
ON MOSTLY MOBILITY PROJECTS AT THAT POINT.
BUT JEAN ALSO RECOGNIZED IN 2020 AS THE JOSEPHINE HOWARD
STAFFER MEMORIAL WINNER.
THAT TELLS A LOT WITH ONLY 28 OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE
RECOGNIZED SINCE THE INCEPTION.
SO WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE JEAN FOR A MOMENT BEFORE WE
MOVE INTO THE NOMINATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON BRAD
BAIRD AND JUST ASK COUNCIL TO APPRECIATE JEAN'S SERVICE FOR
THE CITY FOR OVER TWO DECADES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT MOMENT.
10:31:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JEAN.
LET ME RECOGNIZE CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR A SECOND.
PUT YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
CHARLIE, MICROPHONE.
10:31:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT MS. JEAN
DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY, IS
RETIRING FROM CITY OF TAMPA AFTER 23 YEARS OF DEDICATED
SERVICE, THIS COMING FRIDAY, JUNE 5, 2026, I AM REQUESTING
CITY COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE HER SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AT
REGULAR AGENDA MEETING, THURSDAY, JUNE THE 4th, 2026.
LIKE TO MAKE THIS MOTION AND PRESENT WITH A COMMENDATION.
10:31:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO ISSUE JEAN DUNCAN A WELL
DESERVED COMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
10:31:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NAY.
10:31:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK.
10:31:53AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
10:31:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
10:32:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
INSTEAD OF ME MAKING THE PRESENTATION, I
WOULD LIKE MS. DUNCAN TO BE UP HERE AND RECEIVE IT FROM UP
HERE IF I MAY DO THAT.
10:32:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. DUNCAN, WOULD YOU JOIN COUNCIL AT THE
DAIS, PLEASE?
10:32:13AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HAVE YOU READ THE SCARLET LOPEZ CASE?
10:32:33AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:32:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MS. DUNCAN, OUR PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS
COMMENDATION JUNE THE 4th FOR YOUR SERVICES TO THE CITY OF
TAMPA FOR 23.5 YEARS.
IT'S NOT EASY WORKING AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD IN MULTIPLE
DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR ANY CITY OUR SIZE,
ONE CHANGING DAILY, ONE THAT WAS SOMETHING MUCH LESS THAN
WHAT IT WAS TODAY AND CRITICAL NOT ONLY TO YOU AND OTHER
DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT DO THE WORK.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU WANT
TO DO BECAUSE TIMES CHANGING ALL THE TIME, DAY AND NIGHT,
AND YOU HAVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND
SOMETIMES THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES OVERSEEN BY THE PUBLIC,
INCLUDING MYSELF, AS NOT BEING THE PROPER THING TO DO.
BUT YOU HAVE DONE IT CORRECTLY.
YOU'VE DONE THE BEST YOU CAN WITH WHAT YOU HAD.
AND THIS COUNCIL RECOGNIZES YOU FOR OUTSTANDING SERVICES FOR
23.5 YEARS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND GO OUT AND HAVE A LOT OF FUN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:33:44AM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
I'VE BEEN WAITING TO SIT IN THIS CHAIR.
VERY BRIEFLY, YOU HAVE A LONG DAY.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE ENTIRE CITY ORGANIZATION, MY
WONDERFUL HARDWORKING PROFESSIONAL COLLEAGUES.
WELL-OILED MACHINE HERE WITH THE STAFF, ALL PROFESSIONAL,
COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND DO THE BEST THEY CAN.
AND AS MUCH WRANGLING MAY OCCUR SOMETIMES WITH DIFFERENT
BODIES OF THE ORGANIZATION, WE GET THINGS DONE.
AND EVERYONE UP HERE CARES ABOUT THIS CITY.
EVERYONE THAT WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES CARES ABOUT THE CITY.
OUR CITIZENS HAVE NO IDEA IN WHAT GOOD HANDS THEY ARE AND
WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE.
IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK ALONGSIDE EVERYONE HERE,
INCLUDING THE MAYOR, SUPPORTING OUR CITIZENS.
MY DAD WAS AN ENGINEER.
HE ALWAYS TOLD ME PICK A CAREER WHERE YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE.
AFTER THREE, FOUR, FIVE TIMES OF CHANGING MY MAJOR IN
COLLEGE, I FINALLY LANDED ON ENGINEERING.
I FELT LIKE THAT IS THE WAY I COULD HELP PEOPLE.
I HOPE I CAN CONTINUE TO HELP PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND
WILL SUPPORT ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT
FOR OUR CITIZENS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:34:59AM >> 23 YEARS.
THANK YOU.
10:35:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WOULD IMPLY WE HAD CHILD LABOR.
MR. BENNETT, BACK TO YOU.
10:35:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING.
SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR UNDERSTANDING
THAT PER THE ADMINISTRATION ARE NOMINATING BRAD BAIRD, WHO
HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR EXCESS OF 40 YEARS.
HE'S BEEN THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND
MOBILITY.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW BRAD'S LEVEL OF SERVICE IS ESPECIALLY
RELATED TO THE UTILITY SPACE FOR THE CITY AND OUR CAD
PROGRAM BASICALLY FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT OF CITY
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WITH THAT SAID, BRAD HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD TO BACKFILL
MS. DUNCAN WHO IS RETIRING THIS FRIDAY.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS NOMINATION, THEN BRAD WOULD TAKE
EFFECT IN OFFICE ON SUNDAY, JUNE 7.
10:36:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
TO AFFIRM THE APPOINTMENT OF BRAD BAIRD.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
10:36:27AM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
I'VE DONE 43.5 YEARS.
I'VE LOST COUNT OF HOW MANY CITY COUNCILS, BUT IT WAS SIX
MAYORS.
I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO JEAN.
WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
AND SHE MADE THAT CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND WE TRULY KIND OF SPLIT DUTIES THAT WAY.
AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION A LOT EASIER.
AGAIN, IT'S MY HONOR.
IT'S MY HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY AND I WON'T LET YOU DOWN.
THANK YOU.
10:37:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:37:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
ALWAYS REALLY ENJOYED OUR RELATIONSHIP AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING THAT.
10:37:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:37:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND WISH YOU WELL IN YOUR NEW JOB.
YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB.
WE HAVE ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG.
YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON.
I HAD THAT SOLIDIFIED.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CHILDREN.
WHEN I HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF MEETING ONE OF YOUR SONS,
WORKED IN I.T., IT WAS A TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE BECAUSE IT WAS
DURING A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST ISSUE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BUT
HE IS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND SPOKE WELL OF YOU NOT JUST IN
WORD BUT IN DEED.
LOOKING FORWARD.
YOU ARE A GOOD GUY.
THANK YOU.
10:37:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:37:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, BRAD, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
YOUR APPOINTMENT.
I KNOW YOU TOLD ME EVERYTHING I KNOW ABOUT WATER.
FOR 28 YEARS, YOU'VE BEEN PICKING ME UP ONCE A MONTH TO GO
TO -- MINUS ONE MONTH A YEAR WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTINUES.
10:38:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CONGRATULATIONS.
PLEASE DON'T LET THEM BRING BACK TOILET TO TAP.
10:38:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE AND WORKING WITH YOU.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
CHIEF BENNETT, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR UPDATE?
10:38:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT WAS VERY
INAPPROPRIATE.
WE HAVE A DUTY -- WE HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER ON ABOUT
RETALIATION.
WE HAD TO PAY A $300,000 LAWSUIT BECAUSE ONE STAFF PERSON
MADE COMPLAINTS.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF IT.
OTHER STAFF PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT LEFT AND THREATENED TO
FILE LAWSUITS.
NOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF JUST BROUGHT SOMEBODY FORWARD TO GIVE
THEM A COMMENDATION.
I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY DISRESPECTFUL TO THE EMPLOYEES OF
THE CITY TO SAY THAT IF MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN A CITY COMPLAIN
ABOUT A CERTAIN KIND OF BEHAVIOR THAT NOT ONLY DOES THE CITY
NOT FIRE THEM, BUT THEY LET THEM RETIRE AND THEN THEY ASK US
TO GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THEM.
THAT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL AND IS INDICATIVE OF THE NEGATIVE
CULTURE OF THIS CITY.
WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE
COMPLAINTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE JUST PAID ONE 300,000.
THAT IS NOT THE ONLY LAWSUIT.
I'LL TALK ABOUT MORE LATER.
THIS ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO FIX THIS AND RESPECT OUR
EMPLOYEES.
10:39:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NOW, MOLLY.
THOSE OF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, ALL THESE YOUNGER PEOPLE, NORMALLY
WE DON'T HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE, THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR FEARLESS LEADER MOLLY TO INTRODUCE
EVERYBODY.
YOU GUYS CAN START LINING UP AGAINST THE WALL BECAUSE WE'LL
HAVE YOU COME UP.
ALL THE BLUE SHIRTS UP AGAINST THE WALL.
10:40:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WELCOMING US.
I AM MOLLY BIEBEL.
THE COORDINATOR OF THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS, CITY OF TAMPA
PROGRAM FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS FOCUSED ON LEADERSHIP
DEVELOPMENT, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY SERVICE.
WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
WE HAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE CLASS OF 2026.
I'LL STEP ASIDE SO THEY CAN INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
10:40:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
NAME AND YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.
10:40:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS SAI.
I GO TO KING HIGH SCHOOL.
I WANT TO SAY THIS IS MY FIRST TIME AT THE PODIUM.
I'M VERY EXCITED.
I WANT TO BECOME A POLITICIAN LIKE YOURSELVES AND MAYBE THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
10:40:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE YOU GO.
YAY.
10:40:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS NATE THOMAS.
I GO TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
10:40:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
10:40:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THOMAS JUDAS.
SENIOR AT TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.
REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:41:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
LILA.
JUNIOR AT FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M REALLY EXCITED AND GRATEFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU.
10:41:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS GAVIN.
I'M FROM JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
10:41:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS CARTER HAMILTON.
I GO TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU.
10:41:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ATART.
I GO TO JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:41:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS SYRAH.
SOPHOMORE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
10:41:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I ALSO GO TO MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
SO EXCITED TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
10:41:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I'M A SOPHOMORE AT MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS WHOLE FACILITY, I'M VERY IMPRESSED.
I'M DEFINITELY COMING BACK NEXT TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:42:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS SHANIA MATTHEW, RISING JUNIOR AT
THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
GO DRAGONS.
10:42:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME LISTEN DOWN
HERE.
10:42:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
KATIE.
I GO TO GRANT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
10:42:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS OCTAVIO JOHNSON.
RISING JUNIOR AT JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU.
10:42:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS COLLEEN.
I'M A JUNIOR AT THE ACADEMY OF THE HOLY NAMES.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:42:47AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS NATE.
RISING JUNIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL AND I REALLY ENJOY
THIS EXPERIENCE.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMAZING.
10:42:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ARIANA.
I AM A RISING SENIOR AT TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU.
10:43:04AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS TODD.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:43:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY -- I AM A RISING JUNIOR AT TAMPA PREP.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:43:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
PHILIP.
I'M A RISING JUNIOR AT JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
10:43:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
BRICE.
I GO TO JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, TOO.
10:43:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MIGUEL ALONSO.
RISING SENIOR AT BROOKS DeBARTOLO.
10:43:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M GILL.
SENIOR AT MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:43:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JULIA.
JUNIOR AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:43:58AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS NADAM.
RISING SENIOR AT HP PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE TAMPA MAYOR YOUTH CORPS.
10:44:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS WHITNEY.
I'M A RISING JUNIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:44:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ANGELINA.
I'M A SENIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:44:26AM >> I'M AIDEN.
JUNIOR AT ROBINSON HIGH SCHOOL.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:44:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JACOB CARLSON.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:44:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I RECOGNIZE YOU.
YOU LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY I KNOW.
10:44:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
LUKE.
I AM A SOPHOMORE AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
THANK YOU.
10:44:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING.
IT WAS A PLEASURE HAVING YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
YOU GET TO SEE SOMETIMES HOW BORING GOVERNMENT IS AND
SOMETIMES HOW EXCITING IT IS.
IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING WRAPPED INTO ONE LITTLE
PACKAGE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAS THE YOUNG MAN, LAST NAME CARLSON, IS
HE THE LITTLE GUY?
IS THAT HIM?
HE IS THE MIDDLE ONE.
10:45:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SUSPECT SOMEBODY WAS GIVEN THE RIOT ACT
ABOUT NOT EMBARRASSING HIM.
IS THAT CORRECT?
ARE YOU NOT SUPPOSED TO EMBARRASS HIM THIS MORNING?
10:45:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HE'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER. HE KNOWS I STAND
UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.
HOPEFULLY HE WILL DO THE SAME.
10:45:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING.
MOLLY, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING EVERYBODY.
THOSE OF YOU FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, ONE, EVERY TIME ONE
OF YOU GUYS CAME UP, THIS GUY ON THE FAR END, BUT BACK WHEN
HE GRADUATED FROM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, THERE WERE HORSES
AND CARRIAGES AND DINOSAURS.
10:45:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AT LEAST I GRADUATED.
10:45:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND, OF COURSE, BACK OUR LATE COUNCILWOMAN
GWEN HENDERSON WAS A JEFFERSON DRAGON AND SHE WOULD BE GIDDY
AND EXCITED EVERY TIME SOMEBODY FROM JEFFERSON SHOWED UP TO
COUNCIL.
THANK YOU AND WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE BACK AND HOPEFULLY SEE YOU RISE IN
DIFFERENT FIELDS OF SUCCESS AND SOME OF YOU MAY BE
POLITICIANS.
I KNEW THAT WAS COMING WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
AT THE DAIS, THAT WAS AN INDICATION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:46:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THOSE OF YOU WHO DO ENJOY CITY COUNCIL, IT IS
ON YouTube.
YOU CAN WATCH IT LIVE OR RECORDED.
IT'S A THING.
PEOPLE LOVE IT.
10:46:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEST TV IN TAMPA.
10:46:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, IT IS.
WE ACTUALLY WON A CREATIVE LOAFING AWARD FOR MOST
ENTERTAINING EVENING TELEVISION.
JUST WANT TO SAY.
10:46:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:46:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO SALUTE THE YOUNG FOLKS THAT CAME
OUT, INCLUDING THE YOUNG PERSON FROM FREEDOM HIGH SCHOOL.
MY SON WENT THERE.
SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR FREEDOM.
COMMEND MOLLY FOR THE GREAT WORK SHE DOES AND EVERYBODY IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
ALSO MAKE A NOTE ON HOW THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS CLASS LOOKS
LIKE TAMPA AND LOOKS LIKE AMERICA, WHICH IS PEOPLE FROM ALL
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, DIFFERENT FAITHS, DIFFERENT
BACKGROUNDS AND ALL GOD WILLING BEING FUTURE STAKEHOLDERS IN
THIS CITY AND COUNTRY.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
10:47:17AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANTED TO WELCOME YOU ALL.
MIDDLETON TIGERS, SO GO TIGERS.
ANYTIME I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE OR YOUTH JUST BEING INVOLVED, IT
REALLY JUST DOES MY HEART GOOD.
I'M HAPPY THAT YOU ALL ARE HERE.
I HOPE YOU COME BACK.
10:47:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO STICK AROUND A LITTLE LONGER?
WE'LL PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO LET YOU GUYS CLEAR OUT.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. CARLSON.
WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO LET PEOPLE REGROUP.
GIVE US ANOTHER MINUTE OR SO.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 3 THROUGH 6.
10:48:50AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.
10:48:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU MOVE 7 THROUGH 14.
10:48:59AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 7 THROUGH 14.
10:49:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM YOUNG, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH
18?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 21, 23.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:49:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO MENTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 20,
BECAUSE IT DID TALK ABOUT LICENSE PLATE OR READER SERVICES,
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW THIS WAS NOT ON -- OR IT'S
NOT ON ROADWAYS.
THESE ARE FOR THE GARAGES.
AND THIS IS WHAT HELPS PAY FOR -- THAT'S HOW THEY CHARGE
PEOPLE NOW.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT LICENSE PLATE READERS ON STREETS.
THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING FOR THIS.
10:49:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
10:50:02AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:50:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECOND.
10:50:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 20.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD ASKED TO PULL 19.
WE'LL WAIT FOR HIM TO BE BACK TO DO THAT ONE.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH
32?
10:50:24AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 24 THROUGH 32.
10:50:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:50:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 33 THROUGH 38.
10:50:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO OPEN UP THE 10.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO OPEN UP 10:30 PUBLIC
HEARINGS, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SORRY, MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:50:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE WANTS TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
10:51:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:51:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 55, 56, AND 57.
10:51:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 55, 56
AND 57, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANY OTHERS WE HAVE TO DO?
I GUESS WE'LL WAIT FOR BILL FOR THAT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:51:33AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR ITEM 50 WE HAVE CHIEF
TRIPP HERE.
I KNOW, CHIEF, SOME OF THE FOLKS WERE COMING AT 11 OR THEY
ARE HERE.
AT YOUR PLEASURE, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT JUST FOR PEOPLE'S TIME,
INCLUDING OUR FIRE CHIEF, WHENEVER YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN.
10:51:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL DO THAT AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE
HEARINGS.
VERY GOOD.
ITEM NUMBER 39.
10:52:21AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
PRESENTING FILE VAC-25-10 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:52:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, VERY GOOD.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
NO.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:52:45AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THE
ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF CORDELIA STREET, SOUTH OF IVY
STREET, EAST OF LINCOLN AVENUE AND WEST OF MATANZAS AVENUE
WITHIN THE PLAT OF JOHN H. DREW'S FIRST EXTENSION IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO
CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:53:29AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:53:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 40.
WHO IS HERE TO PRESENT ITEM 40?
SIDEWALKS.
ANYBODY TO PRESENT?
IS ANYBODY REGISTERED ONLINE?
NOT NECESSARY.
OKAY.
10:53:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE
PUBLIC.
10:53:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ITEM
40?
GO TO THE PODIUM.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:54:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALSO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THERE IS A
SUBSTITUTE FOR THAT.
10:54:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WILL BE READ.
GOT IT.
10:54:07AM >> EMILY HINSDALE.
SIDEWALK CODE.
WHOO!
WHO ELSE LOVES TALKING ABOUT THE TAMPA SIDEWALK ORDINANCE.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE YES ON AGENDA ITEM 40, THE
SECOND READING OF THE NEWEST VERSION OF THE SIDEWALK
ORDINANCE THAT WILL FINALLY CLOSE A LOOPHOLE THAT BLOCKS
SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IN TAMPA.
AND THEN WE CAN SPEND LESS TIME TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND
MORE TIME BUILDING THEM.
SIDEWALKS STOMPERS HAS BEEN WORKING OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS
COMPILING A LIST OF SIDEWALK GAPS AROUND SCHOOLS.
I HAVE TO BE HONEST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S VERY HARD TO
FIND A SCHOOL WITHOUT MAJOR AND DANGEROUS SIDEWALK GAPS.
SURE, THERE MAY BE A SIDEWALK ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY, BUT
THERE ISN'T ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL.
SO WHERE EXACTLY IS A CHILD LEAVING THE SCHOOL PROPERTY
SUPPOSED TO WALK?
WHETHER YOU ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA,
EAST TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, OR ANY PLACE WITHOUT A DIRECTION IN
TAMPA, YOU WILL STRUGGLE TO FIND A WAY TO WALK EVEN A COUPLE
OF BLOCKS AWAY FROM A SCHOOL.
ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL COALITION FOR SAFE ROUTES TO
SCHOOL, STREETS WITH PAVED SIDEWALKS 88.2 LESS LIKELY TO
HAVE FATAL CRASHES WITH STUDENTS.
INSTALLING SIDEWALKS THROUGH THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE IS
SPORADIC, BUT OVER TIME IT ACCOMPLISHES REAL CHANGE.
I CAN POINT TO MANY FULL CITY BLOCKS OF SIDEWALK NEAR
SCHOOLS CREATED SOLELY THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT.
THIS ORDINANCE MAKES A REAL AND MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE AND
WITH THE ELIMINATION OF THIS LOOPHOLE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
DRIVE DYNAMIC IMPROVEMENTS.
SO LET'S GET THIS DONE FINALLY.
VOTE YES ON AGENDA ITEM 40 TO AMEND THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU.
10:55:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, EMILY.
CARROLL ANN.
10:55:49AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I OBVIOUSLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EMILY HINSDALE SAID.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE CITY'S RECORD ON SIDEWALKS AND
THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF SIDEWALK CODE IS ABYSMAL.
GIVE IT AN F- .
WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS CLOSING OF THE LOOPHOLE, AND I WANT TO
SAY THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IS THAT THE FEE
GETS PAID.
IF THEY DON'T BUILD THE SIDEWALK, BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE THAT
MONEY AND WE CAN BUILD SIDEWALKS AROUND SCHOOLS AND WE
SHOULD START WITH THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER
OF STUDENTS THAT ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL.
MANY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.
SO LET'S GET OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.
THIS LOOPHOLE HAS BEEN ABUSED SHAMEFULLY AND IT HAS BEEN
ALLOWED TO GO ON FOR YEARS.
MY LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION OVER IT IS OFF THE CHARTS.
THANK YOU.
10:56:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CARROLL ANN.
APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY.
STEPHANIE.
10:56:44AM >> DITTO WHAT BOTH OF THOSE FOLKS SAID.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
SORRY.
DITTO WHAT MY FRIENDS SAID ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE AREAS AROUND
SCHOOLS.
THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT.
WHEN SOMEBODY BUILDS A $32,000 SIDEWALK ON PRESCOTT STREET
ON A VACANT LOT IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR 20
YEARS, THAT IS A PISS POOR USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS BECAUSE WE
ALL KNOW THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING ON THAT
VACANT LOT AND THERE WAS A SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF
THE STREET.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO USE PRIORITIES, AND THERE SHOULD BE
ABSOLUTELY A PRIORITY FOR OUR SCHOOLS, NOT JUST ELEMENTARY
SCHOOLS, DON'T FORGET, WHEN KIDS GO TO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND
HIGH SCHOOL, THEY ARE GOOFIER THAN EVER.
THERE IS NOT A GROWN-UP WALKING TO SCHOOL WITH THEM.
THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
WHEN I GO TO ROBINSON, I GUARANTEE YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON
CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING BECAUSE HE WAS DRIVING TO
ROBINSON FOR A YEAR.
THOSE GOOBERS WILL WALK RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR CAR.
THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK.
THEY JUST WALK OUT IN FRONT OF YOU.
THANK GOD THEY ARE BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN SEE THEM FIRST.
BUT SCHOOLS ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE A PRIORITY.
IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, YES,
WE WANT THEM ON BOTH SIDES, BUT LET'S PRIORITIZE WHERE
THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
BECAUSE WHERE THEY BUILD THOSE APARTMENTS NEXT TO MICHELLE
MASTROTOTARO, THEY BUILD A SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH, BUT THE
CITY SPENT $32,000 BUILDING A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
THE STREET.
STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:58:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. McGREGOR, I SAW YOU CAME IN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING FOR THE RECORD?
10:58:31AM >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A BIT
BEHIND THIS MORNING.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE CAME FOR FIRST READING ON MAY 7.
I ALSO SUBMITTED A SUBSTITUTE MEMO FIXING A MINOR TYPING
ERROR AND UPDATING THE LANGUAGE VERY SLIGHTLY.
YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL RECEIVED THAT.
WE'RE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ADAM IS ALSO HERE.
THAT'S IT.
10:58:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
10:59:00AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANKS AGAIN TO STAFF FOR ALL THE TIME OVER
MANY YEARS THAT YOU ALL AND YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE DONE TO
WORK ON THIS TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
10:59:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU READ THE SUBSTITUTE, PLEASE?
10:59:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 40, FILE NUMBER E2026-8, CH 22,
SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 22,
ARTICLE I, DIVISION 3, SUBDIVISION 3, SECTION 22-103, "WHEN
NEW SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IS REQUIRED; CONTRIBUTIONS TO
SIDEWALK TRUST FUND IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK";
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:59:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
SORRY, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
11:00:04AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:00:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 41.
11:00:15AM >>ERIC COTTON:
ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COULD WE TAKE THIS ALONG WITH ITEM 51?
THAT IS THE JULY CYCLE.
DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE AGENDA.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
11:00:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED
THE PRESENTATION?
11:00:30AM >>ERIC COTTON:
NO.
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
11:00:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TWO ITEMS, ONE SET FOR
10:30, TAKE IT NOW.
11:00:38AM >>ERIC COTTON:
YES, SIR.
11:00:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE TO SWEAR IT IN --
11:00:44AM >> IT'S NON --
11:00:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I BELIEVE THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SET FOR
10:30 INSTEAD OF 10:00.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN SET FOR 10:00.
IT'S APPROPRIATE TO TAKE THEM TOGETHER.
11:00:54AM >> 51.
11:00:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THIS HEARING FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE
HEARING 41 AND 51 AT THE SAME TIME.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THESE?
NO QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEMS 41 OR
51?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE'LL VOTE ONE AT A TIME.
11:01:26AM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER:
DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:01:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE OPEN THE HEARING.
MOTION TO REOPEN.
MOTION TO REOPEN FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
AYES HAVE IT.
11:01:40AM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER:
DANA CROSBY COLLIER, LEGAL.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT FIRST READING REGARDING THE
CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCES.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION BUT NOT A MOTION ABOUT ADDING SOME
CONDITIONS TO THE REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION THAT THE CITY
WOULD EXTEND TO OPERATOR.
I SENT A MEMO THAT DESCRIBED IN SOME DETAIL HOW THE WHOLE
CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCES ARE CERTIFIED BY AN ENTITY
THAT'S HIRED BY THE STATE.
AND IN THE MEMO ON PAGE 12, WE INCLUDED A SAMPLE ORDINANCE
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THOSE CONDITIONS FOR REVOCATION OF THE
REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IF CERTAIN STANDARDS ARE NOT MET BY
THE OPERATOR.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO INCLUDE THESE IN THE CODIFIED
VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE, IF YOU COULD ADOPT THE ORDINANCE
AS AMENDED TO INCLUDE THESE CONDITIONS, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL
SUBMIT TO MUNICODE.
11:02:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC CLARIFICATION THIS IS
ABOUT ITEM 41.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:02:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THIS IS THE REASON I VOTED NO INITIALLY BECAUSE I WAS VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE STATE COMING IN AND
SAYING YOU CAN HAVE RECOVERY RESIDENCES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY
AND THAT WHAT WE COULD DO TO HANDLE BACK ACTORS.
I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SPECIFICITY OF THESE -- OF WHAT YOU
ADDED IN.
SO I CAN VOTE FOR IT NOW.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORT ON THIS BECAUSE
THIS IS, HAVING KNOWN SOME OF THESE SPACES WITHIN THE CITY
AND HOW HARD IT HAS BEEN TO DO CODE WORK AROUND THEM, I
REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS.
11:03:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE ADDED INFORMATION, ANYBODY ELSE
IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE ITEMS?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:03:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO SAY I WAS ABSENT THERE AND ALSO
FOR SEVERAL OF THE LAND USE HEARINGS.
I WANT TO SAY I REVIEWED THE FILE VIDEO.
11:03:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THESE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE
ADDING, IS THAT A SEPARATE MOTION OF COUNCIL AND THE OTHER?
THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT THE
CLERK RECEIVES AND WHAT GETS UPLOADED, WILL THERE BE AN
AMENDED ORDINANCE FILED OR CLEAN ORDINANCE?
HOW WILL IT GET ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ITEM TODAY?
11:03:58AM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE TITLE DIDN'T CHANGE, SO THERE'S NO NEW TITLE FOR THE
ORDINANCE.
IF YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED AND INCLUDE THESE
CONDITIONS, I CAN SUBMIT THIS ORDINANCE TO THE CLERK.
11:04:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE JUST GOING TO READ THE TITLE AND
THEN AS AMENDED.
11:04:16AM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER:
YEAH, AS AMENDED WITH THE 12 -- 8
CONDITIONS.
11:04:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:04:36AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER E2026-8 CHAPTER 27, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS, MAKING REVISIONS TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, AMENDING CHAPTER 27,
ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43,
DEFINITIONS, AMENDING 27-146, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DISTRICT
REGULATIONS, REPEALING SECTION 27-160, SPECIAL STREET
SETBACKS, AMENDING SECTION 27-177, HISTORIC DISTRICT
ESTABLISHED, AMENDING 27-184, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED
PRINCIPAL, ACCESSORY AND SPECIAL USES, REQUIRED OFF-STREET
PARKING RATIOS BY USE, PARKING SPACE EQUIVALENCIES BY
TRANSPORTATION MODE, AMENDING 27-198, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF
PERMITTED PRINCIPAL, ACCESSORY AND SPECIAL USES, REQUIRED
OFF-STREET PARKING RATIOS BY USE, PARKING SPACE
EQUIVALENCIES BY TRANSPORTATION MODE, AMENDING SECTION
27-199, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF DIMENSIONAL REGULATIONS.
AMENDING SECTION 27-211.8 SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED USES BY
DISTRICT, AMENDING SECTION 212.4, SCHEDULE OF ALLOWABLE,
PERMITTED AND PROHIBITED USES BY DISTRICT, CREATING SECTION
27-282.31, CERTIFIED RECOVERY RESIDENCES, AMENDING SECTION
27-283.12, OFF-STREET PARKING SPACE STANDARDS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
11:06:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS AMENDED WITH THE EIGHT CONDITIONS.
11:06:19AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AS AMENDED WITH THE EIGHT CONDITIONS.
11:06:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK THE CODE WAS
27-156 FOR THE ONE LINE.
I MAY HAVE HEARD IT WRONG.
I THINK YOU SAID 146.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:06:39AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:06:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ITEM NUMBER 51, FILE E2026-8, CHAPTER 27,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO
PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS, TO CONSIDER
COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
ORDINANCES, AMENDING SECTION 27-6, ESTABLISHMENT OF LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE, AMENDING CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
DEVELOPMENT, ARTICLE 2, ADMINISTRATIVE AND GENERAL
PROCEDURES, DIVISION 8, SUBDIVISION PROCEDURES, PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
11:07:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:07:32AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 42, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC
HEARING TO JUNE 18, 2026.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MR. SHELBY.
11:07:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DATE, TIME AND PLACE, PLEASE.
11:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JUNE 18, 2026 AT
10 A.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602,
THIRD FLOOR.
11:08:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM NUMBER 43, ONE MORE TIME.
11:08:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 43, FILE
E2026-8 CHAPTER 26.5, A CONTINUANCE TO 10 A.M. ON JUNE 18,
2026, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
11:08:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS WHICH ARE
QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THEY REQUIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ITEMS TO BE
SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO THE NEXT ITEMS, STAND, RAISE
YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:09:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 44.
11:09:13AM >> BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 44 IS REZ 26-11.
REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1500 WEST
LASALLE STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO RM 18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:09:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:09:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION, REZ-26-11, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 1500 WEST LASALLE STREET, IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50 RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM 18, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:10:26AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK
BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:10:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:10:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 45 IS REZ 26-16.
ITEM IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3206 NORTH
TAMPA STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:10:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:11:08AM >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
11:11:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN BY
OUR CLERK, PLEASE.
11:11:13AM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
TRUTH?
11:11:18AM >> YES.
11:11:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING FOR THE
RECORD?
11:11:22AM >> NO, SIR.
I WAS GOING TO SAY MY NAME IS GISELLE MOTA.
AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
11:11:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK
TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE.
YOU READ ONE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, GO AHEAD.
11:11:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 45, FILE REZ-26-16, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3206 NORTH
TAMPA STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, A
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:12:10AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 46.
11:12:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 46 IS REZ-26-37, THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST
FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1313 WEST NASSAU STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:12:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS GISELLE MOTA.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A -- ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HERE WISH
TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
NONE.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON WOULD YOU FIRST READ THE ORDINANCE AND
THEN FOLLOWED BY THE RESOLUTION?
11:13:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I MOVE NUMBER 46, FILE REZ-26-37, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1313
WEST NASSAU STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:13:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM CARLSON, SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:13:47AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:13:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:13:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:13:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO MOVE THE
ASSOCIATED RESOLUTION.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 47.
11:14:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 47 IS REZ-26-52.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5200 SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:14:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:14:33AM >> KAMI CORBETT WITH HILL WARD HENDERSON.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.
11:14:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION?
OH, WE HAVE ONE.
YOU ARE JUST NOT QUICK ENOUGH.
11:14:53AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I HATE THIS PROJECT, BUT THIS PD MAKES IT A BETTER PD.
I DON'T WANT ANY MORE DENSITY IN SOUTH TAMPA, BUT THESE
AMENDMENTS TO THE PD ARE A GOOD THING.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS APPLICANT IS HAVING
TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS TO MAKE CHANGES, BUT THE LIVE
LOCAL NEXT DOOR TO ME NEVER CAME BACK TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY
REDUCED THE SETBACK BY 60 FEET.
I STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH THE EQUITY IN THAT SITUATION.
THANK YOU.
11:15:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
11:15:27AM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
I SUPPORT THESE CHANGES.
I THINK THEY ARE AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE ORIGINAL.
THANK YOU.
11:15:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE?
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:15:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5200
SOUTH MANHATTAN AVENUE, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:16:10AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:16:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 48.
11:16:16AM >> CHRISTOPHER DEMANCHE, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 48 IS REZ 25-118.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4714 EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CI AND RS 50 TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
ALL CI USES AND OPEN STORAGE AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:16:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:16:47AM >> AZLAN SHEIKH WITH GLOBAL ENGINEERING ASSOCIATES.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:16:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:17:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ-25-118, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
4714 EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND RS 50
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, ALL CI USES AND ACCESSORY OPEN
STORAGE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:17:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:17:40AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:17:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 49.
11:17:46AM >> BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 49 IS REZ-26-16.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3206 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RS 50 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:18:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SHE SAID --
11:18:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE WEST EUCLID AVENUE.
11:18:19AM >> SO SORRY, GUYS.
THIS IS FOR REZ 26-18.
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3602 WEST EUCLID AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO CG
COMMERCIAL USES.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:18:38AM >> NOTHING TO ADD.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:18:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:18:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 26-18, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
3602 WEST EUCLID AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RO, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO CG,
COMMERCIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:19:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:19:24AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:19:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 50.
11:19:29AM >> ITEM NUMBER 50, CHRIS DEMANCHE, FOR THE RECORD, WITH
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 50 IS REZ 26-26.
THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2602 AND
2604 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD AND 2603 EAST
IDA STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CI AND RS 50 TO PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY, REVISIONS HAVE
BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO
THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:19:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
11:20:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
CATHERINE COYLE, BOGGS ENGINEERING, 601 SOUTH ALEXANDER
STREET.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE SITE WHERE WE'RE SAVING THE THREE
GRAND TREES AND THIS WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF THE SHIPPING
CONTAINER HOMES.
11:20:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM --
11:20:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT, WAIT.
11:20:46AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:20:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN IN FIRST.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:20:58AM >> YES.
11:20:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:21:03AM >> MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS SOMETHING BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT
TO THE -- THE CONTAINERS HOME.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT
OR WHERE I WOULD HAVE SEEN RENDERINGS OR IF THERE WAS A
MEETING.
I'M NOT OPPOSED OR AGAINST OR FOR IT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION.
I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HER.
THANK YOU.
11:21:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:21:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
QUICK COMMENT.
WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE VIDEO THIS MORNING CATCHING UP, IT
WAS FUNNY WATCHING IT WHERE YOU HAD TO TELL EVERYBODY
THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DOORS AND WINDOWS ON IT.
11:21:49AM >> YES, YES.
THE ARTIST RENDERING --
11:21:53AM >>BILL CARLSON:
LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
11:21:55AM >> THANK YOU.
11:21:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:22:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FILE REZ 26-26, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2602 AND 2604
EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING CONSIDER BOULEVARD AND 2603 EAST
IDA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY AND CI,
COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY.
11:22:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:22:31AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:22:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 52 IS THE FIRST READING, PLEASE.
11:22:42AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING FILE VAC 23-20.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR FROM A
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VACATING ORDINANCE, 2024-35.
THAT ORDINANCE ABANDONED ALL RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ALLEY WAYS
LOCATED NORTH OF OAK AVENUE, SOUTH OF TALK AVENUE, EAST OF
TAMPA STREET AND WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE.
BASICALLY, THIS IS TO AMEND AND CORRECT THE EXHIBIT A WHICH
IS THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE ORDINANCE TO ADD A SMALL
AREA THAT WAS OMITTED FROM THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
THAT AREA WAS APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET BY EIGHT FEET LONG.
THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS NOTICE FOR THE APPROVED
VACATING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:23:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
FILE NUMBER 52, FILE VAC-23-20, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING -- SECOND READING --
11:23:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FIRST.
11:23:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR
BY AMENDING ORDINANCE 2024-35 WHICH VACATED, CLOSED,
DISCONTINUED AND ABANDONED ALL RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND ALLEYWAYS
LOCATED NORTH OF OAK AVENUE, SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE, EAST OF
TAMPA STREET, WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE, WITHIN THE PLAT OF
HIGHLAND PARK FIRST ADDITION SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, BY AMENDING EXHIBIT A
TO ADD A SMALL AREA THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY OMITTED FROM THE
LEGAL DESCRIPTION, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:24:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:24:39AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16, 2026 AT
10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:24:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 53.
AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM BARBARA TRIPP AFTER THIS.
11:25:17AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE HERE BASICALLY TO MAKE SOME MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE
SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERA ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL
HAS ALREADY PASSED.
WE ALREADY PASSED THE CONTRACT, THE ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE ONE SIMPLE GOAL AND THAT'S TO PROTECT STUDENTS AND
TO PROTECT OUR FOLKS WHO ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL, WHO ARE
DRIVING TO SCHOOL, AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE, I THINK COUNCIL IS
PRETTY MUCH FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PASSED.
WE RELIED ON A STUDY FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS COMMISSIONED
BACK IN 2022.
IT ACTUALLY USED SOME DATA AS OLD AS 2018 AND IT RELIED ON A
LOT OF MULTIMODAL ASPECTS OF WALKING AND BIKING TO SCHOOL,
THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE PREVIOUS VENDOR, SOME
OPERATIONAL ISSUES AND WE WERE BASICALLY SEVERED THE TIES
WITH THE PREVIOUS VENDOR, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE NEW CONTRACT
AND MOVED TO RED SPEED, RED SPEED OFFERED TO ACTUALLY DO A
TRUE SPEED STUDY.
SO WE HAD THEM DO THE SPEED STUDY AT 31 SCHOOL ZONES IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
AND THEY SPECIFICALLY WERE LOOKING FOR THE NUMBER OF
SPEEDING VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE COMMITTING A VIOLATION UNDER
THIS STATUTE DURING SCHOOL HOURS.
SO WE IDENTIFIED 18 SPECIFIC SCHOOL ZONES.
THESE SCHOOLS WERE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE GEOGRAPHICALLY
SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE CITY THAN THE ORIGINAL STUDY SHOWED.
BUT THERE ARE 18 OF THE SCHOOL ZONES THAT AVERAGE BETWEEN
200 AND EVEN UP TO 3,000 SPEEDING VIOLATIONS PER DAY.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO DO IS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE
AND AGAIN THE ONLY AMENDMENT IS TO JUST CHANGE THE
LOCATIONS.
6 OF THE PREVIOUS LOCATIONS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE
ORDINANCE WERE ALSO IDENTIFIED IN THIS STUDY, BUT THERE WERE
SOME ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THAT HAD A LOT OF THESE SERIOUS
SPEEDING ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
SO BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS MAKING OUR SCHOOL ZONES SAFER, MAKING
OUR STUDENTS SAFER AS THEY ARE COMING TO SCHOOL, WE DO WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THE MOST SPEEDING
VIOLATIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PUTTING OUR SPEED
CAMERAS AT.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR
SHARING OF ANY KIND OF DATA, LICENSE PLATE READERS AND SO
FORTH.
JUST A REMINDER, BOTH THE STATE STATUTE AND CITY ORDINANCE
DO NOT ALLOW THE SHARING OF ANY KIND OF DATA FOR
SURVEILLANCE PURPOSES.
THERE WILL BE NONE OF THAT.
EVEN IF THE STATE STATUTE GETS AMENDED AND ALLOWS THAT, THE
CITY ORDINANCE WILL PROHIBITS THE USE OF THIS KIND OF DATA
FOR SURVEILLANCE PURPOSES.
THERE CAN BE NO DATA SHARING WITH ANY KIND OF A LICENSE
PLATE RECOGNITION SYSTEM THAT CAN BE USED FOR SURVEILLANCE
IN THE FUTURE.
IF THE VENDOR WERE TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD BE IN BREACH OF
THE CITY ORDINANCE AND BREACH OF THE CONTRACT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERN.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE STORING THIS DATA FOR ANY KIND OF
LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION PURPOSES, ANY KIND OF SURVEILLANCE
PURPOSES.
AS A REMINDER, THESE VIOLATIONS DO NOT CARRY ANY POINTS ON A
PERSON'S DRIVER'S LICENSE, EVEN IF THE VIOLATION TURNS INTO
A UNIFORM TRAFFIC CITATION, IT'S NOT PAID, IT STILL DOES NOT
GENERATE POINTS ON SOMEBODY'S DRIVER'S LICENSE.
WE DO KNOW THAT THESE CAMERAS MAKE SCHOOL ZONES SAFER,
DEPENDING ON WHAT STUDY YOU LOOK AT, ANYWHERE FROM 45% TO AN
80% REDUCTION IN SPEEDING FROM WHEN THESE CAMERAS ARE
INSTALLED.
SO WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THEY ARE VALUABLE.
THEY ARE A VALUABLE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE.
OF COURSE, BEFORE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED, WE DO HOPE THAT IT IS
IMPLEMENTED HERE BY THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
WE DO PLAN TO HAVE A ROBUST PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.
WE'RE GOING TO BE -- THIS IS AN ITEM.
SOME OF THE DATA IS OLD BECAUSE IT IS FROM THE OLD SYSTEM.
CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT?
THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE FLYERS THAT WE POST
EITHER ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR WE GIVE OUT AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
SO SOME OF THOSE DATES ON THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO
CHANGE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE -- THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF SCREEN SHOTS
FROM THE PREVIOUS WEBSITE THAT WE SET UP AGAIN ON THIS.
THE WEBSITE HAS BEEN ARCHIVED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT
ACTIVE, BUT WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE SET UP.
WE HAVE VIDEOS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES.
WE HAVE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE LOCATION DATA THAT WILL BE ON THESE WEBSITES.
AGAIN, WE PLAN ON NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO PROMOTE THE
WEBSITE, NOT ONLY PROMOTE THINGS VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, WE PLAN
ON GOING TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO GET WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS,
MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTIFY THEM THAT THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO
BE STARTING.
THERE IS A 30 DAY WARNING PERIOD WHEN EACH CAMERA IS SET UP
BEFORE VIOLATIONS START BEING ISSUED.
SO THE WARNING PERIOD AND THE ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS
VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR COUNCIL TO JUST APPROVE THIS
AMENDMENT SO WE CAN PUT THESE CAMERAS AT OUR MOST IMPORTANT
LOCATIONS WHERE SPEEDING HAS BEEN DETERMINED VIA THE TRAFFIC
STUDY TO BE AN ISSUE.
WE WOULD ASK COUNCIL SUPPORT ON THIS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALONG WITH MR. SCHMID AND
MR. RISER.
11:30:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN FOLLOWED BY
HURTAK.
11:31:02AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
WE APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THESE.
I REMEMBER WHEN STATE REPRESENTATIVE TRACI KOSTER I THINK IT
WAS INTRODUCED THIS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY
-- AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS BEING TARGETED
HERE IN SCHOOL AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON SAFETY, THEY ARE
THE ONES I HEAR ABOUT THE MOST AS DISTRICT 7 TAMPA CITY
COUNCILMAN.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THIS DOES AND DOESN'T.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN THIS REGARD.
FROM RECOLLECTION, VERY NARROWLY TAILORED.
HUNDRED DOLLAR FINE.
TIME LIMITED IN TERMS OF THE HOUR BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.
I BELIEVE IT IS -- PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- IT
DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNLESS YOU ARE GOING IN EXCESS OF TEN
MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, ISN'T THAT SO?
11:31:53AM >> THAT IS ALL CORRECT.
11:31:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS ISN'T A GRAB BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
ISN'T SOMETHING ONEROUS OR PUNITIVE.
VERY NARROWLY TAILORED AND NARROWLY TAILORED TO PROTECT THE
LIVES OF CHILDREN.
THAT'S WHY I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS.
SULPHUR SPRINGS ELEMENTARY I BELIEVE IT WAS HAD BEEN IN
THIS.
GLAD TO SEE WE HAVE SHAW AND COPELAND PARK AREA AND VERY
THRILLED TO SEE WE HAVE THREE NEW TAMPA SCHOOLS, BONITO NEAR
HUNTER'S GREEN AND ARBOR GREENE.
THAT IS A WONDERFUL CHOICE.
I HEAR A LOT ABOUT SPEEDING ON CROSS CREEK.
ALSO CHILES ELEMENTARY WHERE MY SON WENT WHEN HE WAS A KID.
I'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT THERE YEARS AGO WHEN I USED TO DROP
HIM OFF AND PICK HIM UP AT CHILES ELEMENTARY.
AND THEN LIBERTY RIGHT NEXT TO FREEDOM.
I HEAR A LOT FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY ON THOSE THREE
SCHOOLS.
ON BONITO, LIBERTY, AS WELL AS CHILES.
I'M THRILLED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, I'VE ALWAYS HAD BIG CHALLENGES
WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND OUR PRESENT LAW WHENEVER IT
COMES TO FEES AND FINES AND HOW WE INSTITUTIONALIZE POVERTY,
TAKING AWAY FOLKS' ABILITY TO DRIVE BECAUSE OF UNPAID FEES
AND FINES.
FOR ME, THAT IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THIS ISSUE.
I'M NOT GOING TO NOT ENFORCE THE LAW OR NOT IMPLEMENT
PROVISIONS THAT PUT PENALTIES ON PEOPLE WHO GO 15 MILES IN
EXCESS OF THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE SCHOOL ZONE BECAUSE OF
IMPLEMENTATION ON FEES AND FINES.
I WANT A CHANGE ON THAT IN FLORIDA LAW AND I THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE DO.
FOR ME, THOSE ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUES.
I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS.
MY CONSTITUENTS STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN DO THIS.
THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THANK YOU.
11:33:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SULING, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THE TIMER IS SET
ON COUNCIL?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:33:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MY FIRST QUESTION TO FOLLOW ON WHAT
COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, SO THEY WON'T GET A FINE UNTIL TEN
MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT?
11:33:57AM >> YES, MA'AM, THAT IS CORRECT.
THE STATUTE ACTUALLY DESCRIBES WHEN THE CITATION CAN BE
ISSUED.
SO YOU CAN'T ISSUE A CITATION OR A VIOLATION, THEY ARE NOT
EVEN CITATIONS.
CAN'T ISSUE A VIOLATION FOR FIVE OR SIX OR SEVEN.
IT'S TEN, CORRECT?
ANYTHING OVER TEN MILES AN HOUR, THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO
ISSUE THE CITATIONS SPECIFICALLY UNDER THIS AUTOMATED
ENFORCEMENT.
NOW, IF THERE IS A POLICE OFFICER WHO HAPPENS TO BE RUNNING
RADAR OR RUNNING LASER IN A SCHOOL ZONE, THEY DON'T HAVE
THAT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT.
BUT JUST FOR THE CAMERAS, THAT IS CORRECT.
11:34:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GENERALLY SPEAKING, SCHOOL ZONES ARE 15 MILES
AN HOUR?
11:34:39AM >> 15 TO 20 MILES AN HOUR USUALLY.
11:34:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 25 TO 30 MILES AN HOUR
BEFORE YOU CAN DO A TICKET.
TO ME, I JUST THINK THAT TEN MILES AN HOUR IS A HUGE
DIFFERENCE IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
I WILL JUST SAY THAT.
I UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT IF IT'S AN
ACTUAL OFFICER THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT THAT TEN MILES AN
HOUR.
WOW, THAT TEN MILES AN HOUR IS A LOT.
SO WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENTER THIS MORNING THAT ASKED IF
THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD TAKE OUR ORDINANCE AND MAKE SURE
THAT LANGUAGE GETS INTO THIS ORDINANCE AND NOT JUST
REFERENCING THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL HAD PASSED PREVIOUSLY
ABOUT NOT USING THE CAMERA TECHNOLOGY FOR FLOCK OR OTHER
SURVEILLANCE.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY WRITE THAT INTO THIS
CONTRACT TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE ASSURITY?
BECAUSE THE COMMENTER THIS MORNING SAID AND IT MADE A LOT OF
SENSE AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE
COMMUNITY AFTER MY LAST VOTE, WAS JUST BECAUSE THERE IS AN
ORDINANCE DOESN'T MEAN THAT ORDINANCE IS GOING TO STAY.
EVEN CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE'RE GONE MAY OF NEXT YEAR, THE
NEW COUNCIL COULD COMPLETELY CHANGE THAT.
WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS, CAN WE PUT THAT STRONGER LANGUAGE
THAT'S IN OUR CURRENT OVERALL ORDINANCE INTO THIS CONTRACT
TO MAKE IT MORE IRONCLAD?
11:36:07AM >> SO, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A WAY TO AMEND THE
CONTRACT BECAUSE THE CONTRACT WITH THIS COMPANY WAS DONE
THROUGH THE PROVISIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT PURCHASING COUNCIL.
ESSENTIALLY A PIGGYBACK CONTRACT, SO WE CAN'T CHANGE A
CONTRACT THAT WE PIGGYBACKED ON.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO
RFP.
IT WOULD BE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO DO THAT.
NO WAY WE COULD GET THESE CAMERAS IMPLEMENTED BY THE START
OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IF WE WENT BACK TO RFP, DID THIS ALL OVER
AGAIN, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER YEAR TO TWO YEARS TO
EVEN IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM.
UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE WE PIGGYBACKED ON THE CONTRACT, WE
CAN'T CHANGE THE CONTRACT.
AGAIN, NO MATTER WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS, AS LONG AS THIS
COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCIL DOESN'T CHANGE THE ORDINANCE AND
THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T CHANGE THE LAW, BOTH OF THOSE THINGS
WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
EVEN IF THE LEGISLATURE CHANGES THE LAW, THE ORDINANCE WOULD
STILL BE STRICTER THAN THE LAW.
OUR ORDINANCE WOULD STILL APPLY.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LEGISLATURE CHANGE THE LAW AND A
FUTURE COUNCIL CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW
SURVEILLANCE WITH THESE CAMERAS.
AS FAR AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOES, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE
ANY -- WE DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO WANT THAT.
11:37:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT -- PEOPLE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USING IT.
THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I.C.E.
USING IT.
THAT'S THE ISSUE.
IT'S NOT OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGER CONCERN IS THAT THE FLORIDA
LEGISLATURE JUST COMPLETELY PREEMPTS OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE
THEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IN TALLAHASSEE
FOR MANY, MANY THINGS.
SO THAT IS A CONCERN.
THANK YOU.
11:37:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN YOUNG.
11:37:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I ASK LEGAL A QUESTION, PLEASE?
SO IF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
SUBPOENAS THESE FILES, DO WE OR THE VENDOR HAVE TO GIVE IT
TO THEM?
11:38:13AM >> MIKE SCHMID, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION RIGHT, YOU ARE ASKING WHETHER
OR NOT IF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SUBPOENAED THE RECORDS FROM
RED SPEED, WOULD RED SPEED BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE
SUBPOENA?
I MEAN, I THINK THERE IS A DEEPER LEVEL OF KNOWING WHAT RED
SPEED WOULD HAVE.
SO FIRST OFF, THE DATA HAS TO BE DELETED WITHIN 90 DAYS FROM
THE DISPOSITION OF THE VIOLATION, AND I THINK ANY OTHER DATA
IS DELETED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE CAPTURING THE DATA THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS EVEN GOING TO EXIST.
BUT IN THEORY, I CAN'T ADVISE THAT RED SPEED --
11:38:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOST LIKELY YES.
11:39:00AM >> -- WOULD HAVE TO HONOR A SUBPOENA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE.
11:39:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
-- LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD.
11:39:05AM >> I IMAGINE THEY WOULD, BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE THE DATA THAT SOME OF US ARE STATING THAT THEY
MIGHT HAVE CONCERNS WITH.
11:39:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE THING I WANTED TO SAY ON TOP OF THAT,
THOUGH, IS FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, TODAY, WE'RE NOT APPROVING
THE CONTRACT.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS REVISING THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED
ALREADY.
YOU KIND OF SAID THIS EARLIER, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE
BENEFITS OF THIS IS THAT THE LOCATIONS PRIMARILY ALL WERE IN
EAST TAMPA.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT
ALSO.
AND NOW YOU DISTRIBUTED IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
YOU'RE DOING IT BASED ON DATA, NOT JUST GEOGRAPHY.
I THINK IN TERMS OF EQUITY, EAST TAMPA FOLKS ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT BIKING WHILE BLACK OR RENTING WHILE BLACK AND OTHER
POLICIES IN THE PAST.
AND NOW WE CAN SAY TO THEM, THIS IS BEING DISTRIBUTED
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ONE OF THEM IS ROBINSON HIGH, WHICH IS THE ONE, MY YOUNGEST
SON GOES TO.
I SEE PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.
AND THEY ARE GOING WAY MORE THAN TEN MILES AN HOUR OVER THE
SPEED LIMIT.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY OF IT.
ONE THING THAT HAPPENS IS THAT WHEN YOU SLOW DOWN TO GO
THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE, PEOPLE START HONKING BEHIND YOU.
ON THE LATER ITEM, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OTHER
ISSUES THERE.
YOU TALKED ABOUT EFFECTIVENESS.
I TOOK A DEEP DIVE ON THIS AND THE LEGISLATION AND
EVERYTHING.
WHAT I FOUND IS THAT THE INDUSTRY SAYS IT'S 65%.
SOMETIMES MORE EFFECTIVE, BUT THE PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH
SHOWS IT IS ABOUT 45 OR 46 PERCENT.
THAT IS STILL A DETERRENT BUT 55% MORE.
THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN YOU'RE DOING, THE RESEARCH SHOWS
THAT'S ABOUT 10 OR 15 PERCENT EFFECTIVE.
TAKE THE 45%, PUT 15 ON BOARD, WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN
THE NEXT ITEM LATER IS WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO IN PARTICULAR
WITH THE $10 MILLION THAT IS GOING TO BE LEFT OVER, AS EMILY
WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
AS TO THE HOURS, JUST TO CONFIRM, IT'S GOING TO BE DURING
THE WHOLE SCHOOL DAY, RIGHT?
IN THE MORNING, IF YOU GO 26 MILES AN HOUR, YOU'LL GET A
TICKET, BUT LET'S SAY BETWEEN DROP-OFF AND PICKUP TIME THE
SPEED LIMIT IS 35, YOU HAVE TO GO 46 TO GET A TICKET, BUT
YOU COULD GET A TICKET DURING THE SCHOOL DAY, BUT ON
WEEKENDS AND AFTER HOURS, BEFORE HOURS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
GOING.
11:41:29AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:41:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES IT COLLECT DATA DURING THOSE TIMES?
11:41:36AM >> IT'S ONLY CAPTURING SPEED VIOLATIONS IF THAT'S YOUR
QUESTION.
11:41:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN TERMS OF THE ARGUMENT ABOUT A CASH GRAB
OR NOT CASH GRAB, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT
DISCUSSION.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE DO WITH THE $10 MILLION.
IT SAYS WE CAN USE IT FOR SCHOOL SAFETY OR PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO IF WE USE IT FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN SCHOOL SAFETY, THEN
IT'S GOING TO LOOK TO THE PUBLIC LIKE A CASH GRAB.
THAT'S THE DISCUSSION I WANT TO HAVE.
EMILY HINSDALE MENTIONED EARLIER, WHOLE BUNCH OF
SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THINGS.
IF THIS IS 45% EFFECTIVE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD, PEOPLE ARE
STILL SPEEDING THROUGH.
I THINK OUR GOAL SHOULD BE TO HAVE NOBODY PAY TICKETS
BECAUSE IF YOU ARE SPEEDING THROUGH AND GETTING A TICKET,
YOU ARE STILL PUTTING LIVES AT RISK.
WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO.
BIGGER SIGNS WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER, ONLY 20%
EFFECTIVE BUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS WELL.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
11:42:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:42:35AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANYTHING SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY ARE MAKING SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE SAFE WHEN
THEY ARE GOING TO SCHOOL, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST FOR MYSELF AND FOR
THE PUBLIC, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT THAT WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY?
11:42:56AM >> I'M SORRY.
IF I WASN'T CLEAR, AGAIN, ALL WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS
AMENDING THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY PASSED.
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTRACT COUNCIL
ALREADY PASSED, TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THE
ORDINANCE HAS SPECIFIC SCHOOLS IN IT.
SO THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE HAD THE 12 SCHOOLS THAT WERE
IDENTIFIED VIA THE OLD STUDY.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEWER STUDY THAT IS SPECIFICALLY A SPEED
STUDY, WE'VE DONE MORE RESEARCH AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE
18 SCHOOLS.
SO IT'S REPLACING THOSE 12 SCHOOLS WITH THESE 18 SCHOOLS.
AND 6 OF THOSE SCHOOLS ARE THE SAME.
THE OTHER 6 WERE NOT IDENTIFIED AS HAVING ACTUAL ISSUES WITH
SPEEDING.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS CLARIFYING THE LOCATIONS WHERE THE
CAMERAS CAN BE PUT.
11:43:46AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ARE THOSE 18 SCHOOLS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE
CITY?
11:43:51AM >> THEY ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
I DO HAVE, ALTHOUGH THE MAP IS HARD TO READ, I HAVE A MAP
WITH THE LOCATIONS ON THERE AS WELL.
IT IS MORE SPREAD OUT, LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAYS, WE DO
HAVE SOME SCHOOLS UP IN NEW TAMPA.
WE HAVE MORE DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA AND A LITTLE MORE SPREAD
OUT.
SEVERAL OF THE SCHOOLS IN EAST TAMPA WERE THE ONES THAT WERE
REMOVED BASED UPON THIS NEW STUDY.
11:44:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING
THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT IT
WOULD TAKE A YEAR JUST TO PUT THAT AMENDMENT INTO THE
CONTRACT?
11:44:30AM >> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
AND THERE'S NO -- BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE PIGGYBACKED ON THE
CONTRACT.
IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS OPERATIONAL BY THE SCHOOL
YEAR, WE HAVE TO GET THIS PASSED TODAY.
SO IF WE DELAY THE PROCESS, GO BACK TO RFP, AND TRY TO GET
THE CONTRACT REWRITTEN, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST
NEXT SCHOOL YEAR BEFORE WE GET TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF DONE.
WITH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE RFP PROCESS, AND THEN THE
FACT THAT NOTHING CAN START AS FAR AS THE EDUCATIONAL
CAMPAIGNS, THE CONSTRUCTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S
WHAT TAKES THE TIME IS GOING ON TO THE ROADWAY AND PUTTING
THE CAMERAS UP.
IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET THE PERMITS IN PLACE, TO GET
THE INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN.
SO THAT WOULD DELAY EVERYTHING.
AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW WHAT THE CONCERN IS.
11:45:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE'S MY ISSUE WITH THAT.
WE CHANGE CONTRACTS ALL THE TIME.
AND WE AMEND AND CHANGE THINGS AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A YEAR.
I HEAR YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'VE SEEN US DO IT FOR
OTHER THINGS.
AND I'VE SEEN CONTRACTS BE AMENDED ALL THE TIME.
I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY JUST PUTTING LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT
MAKES SURE WE'RE PROTECTING PEOPLE'S DATA, WHY THAT WOULD
TAKE SO LONG TO DO.
11:46:03AM >> BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY OUR CONTRACT.
THIS IS A CONTRACT WE PIGGYBACKED ON VIA THE PROVISIONS OF
THE PURCHASING COUNCIL.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TAKING THE CONTRACT THAT I BELIEVE THE
COUNTY IS USING AND WE'RE JUST ADOPTING THAT SAME CONTRACT.
MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THOSE RULES IS WE DON'T HAVE THE
ABILITY TO SPECIFICALLY CHANGE A CONTRACT THAT WE'RE
PIGGYBACKING OFF OF.
11:46:29AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN I HAVE ONE OF THE LAWYERS EXPLAIN TO ME,
PLEASE?
11:46:34AM >> MIKE SCHMID, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
I CONCUR WITH WHAT CHIEF MESSMER JUST SAID.
THAT'S CORRECT.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THE PROVISIONS OF THE COUNTY CONTRACT.
FOR THE REASONS HE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THAT IS OUR CONCERN.
11:46:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD ALSO CONCUR.
BASICALLY WHAT YOU ARE BEING TOLD IS BECAUSE THIS CONTRACT
COMES AS A PACKAGE, WE'RE ABLE TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS AND
GET THE SAME NEGOTIATED RATES THAT ALL THE OTHER
MUNICIPALITIES OR GOVERNMENT ENTITIES ARE USING FOR THAT
CONTRACT.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THERE IS A WHOLE
PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH FOR RFPs, WHICH WAS
DISCUSSED, AND THEN THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD HAVE
TO BE RENEGOTIATED WITH THAT COMPANY, AND YOU'VE HEARD WHAT
THE PROBLEM WOULD BE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF TIME.
THE OTHER THING IS NORMALLY COUNCIL GENERALLY UNDER THE
CHARTER DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE OR
RENEGOTIATE CONTRACTS FROM THE DAIS.
YOU CAN EITHER VOTE THEM UP OR YOU CAN VOTE THEM DOWN AND
STATE THE REASON WHY.
BUT WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT CONTRACTS BEING RENEGOTIATED, THEY
COULD BE SUGGESTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT UNDER THE
ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES OF THE MAYOR, UNDER THE DUTIES OF
MAYOR, SHE GETS TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS.
AND COUNCIL PRESENTED WITH THE BINARY CHOICE OF YES OR NO.
11:48:13AM >> THERE IS A CANCELLATION PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT.
IF THEY VIOLATE THE CITY ORDINANCE AND ANYBODY DETERMINES
THAT THEY ARE VIOLATING THE CITY ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD BE A
BREACH OF THE CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACT COULD BE IMMEDIATELY
CANCELED AT THAT POINT.
11:48:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
YOU SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
HOW LONG WILL WE BE DOING THIS EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN?
11:48:36AM >> OUR PLAN IS TO START THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN AS SOON AS
THE ORDINANCE PASSES AND EVERYTHING IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AND THEN THAT EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN WILL GO UP UNTIL THE
POINT THAT THE SYSTEM GOES LIVE BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR
STARTS.
THAT'S SEVERAL MONTHS IS THE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
11:48:57AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WITH THE NEW CAMERA INSTALLATIONS, WILL THERE
BE SIGNS TO SAY CAMERAS, SLOW DOWN, CAMERAS IN ALL OF THE
LOCATIONS.
11:49:04AM >> CORRECT.
THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT IS ANYTIME THAT A SCHOOL ZONE
HAS A CAMERA ON THERE ENFORCING SPEED, THAT HAS TO BE POSTED
THAT THERE IS SPEED ENFORCED ESSENTIALLY.
THERE IS A SPECIFIC SIGN THAT SAYS IT IS PHOTO ENFORCED AND
THE HOURS THAT THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT IS TAKING PLACE IS ALSO
ON THE SAME SIGN.
11:49:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
11:49:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
11:49:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:49:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MICROPHONE.
MICROPHONE.
11:49:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE DO SOMETIMES AND
WHAT WE DO BIDDING FOR BUYING A CAR OR SOMETHING FOR THE
FLEET.
YOU BID AND CONTRACT THAT THE SHERIFF HAS AND WE DON'T HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WE PIGGYBACK ON THE SHERIFF, SAME PRICE THAT THE SHERIFF
DID, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ANOTHER SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AND
THE PRICE MIGHT HAVE ESCALATED UP.
11:49:56AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
WE WANTED TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
WE WANTED IT DONE BY THE SCHOOL YEAR LAST YEAR.
WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE LAST VENDOR.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT LONGER AND LONGER AND REDO
THE WHOLE PROCESS.
11:50:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL DO THE END OF THE FIRST ROUND AND
THEN MOVE ON TO SECOND ROUND.
IT WOULD BE MY INTENTION TO VOTE AGAINST THIS.
I REGRET MY VOTE ON THE FIRST ROUND.
JUST FYI.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON SECOND
ROUND.
11:50:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD LEGAL JUST TELL US THE EFFECT OF
VOTING NO.
11:50:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EFFECT OF VOTING NO, THE EXISTING
ORDINANCE WOULD STAND WITH THE EXISTING LOCATIONS --
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:50:41AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I DO WANT TO POINT SOMETHING OUT WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN
REFERENCES ON THIS POTENTIALLY BEING USED OR EVEN MISUSED I
GUESS IF YOU WILL.
I.C.E. WAS MENTIONED.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF THIS
LAW PRECLUDE US FROM THE PROPER USE OF IT BY US WHICH I
THINK WILL BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITIES IN MY
ESTIMATION.
I WOULD BE OPEN IF THERE IS A MOTION FOR AN ANNUAL WRITTEN
REPORT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE SO WE KEEP AN EYE ON
THIS.
I SAY THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I HAVE A LEVEL OF REGARD AND
DEFERENCE FOR THE ISSUES WHICH WERE MENTIONED WITH REGARDS
TO SHARING OF DATA AND I.C.E.
I HAVE STRONG, STRONG, STRONG MORAL DISAPPROVAL OF WHAT THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING BY AND LARGE ON THAT ISSUE.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO.
AGAIN, I WOULDN'T LET THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF THIS PRECLUDE
US FROM THE PROPER USE OF IT, WHICH PHILOSOPHICALLY I'M IN
SUPPORT OF WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOLS MYSELF.
AND I RESPECT OUR CHAIRMAN'S POSITION.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S POSITION ON PUBLIC SAFETY IS
SECOND TO NONE.
BUT THAT'S MY POSITION.
THANK YOU.
11:51:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT?
11:51:56AM >> I BELIEVE THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR EXTENSION, BUT MY
RECOLLECTION IS APPROXIMATELY MARCH OF 2027 IS THE COUNTY'S
CONTRACT ENDS BECAUSE WE'RE PIGGYBACKING, WE ARE CURRENTLY
WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.
11:52:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MARCH OF '27.
11:52:17AM >> APPROXIMATELY AROUND THEN.
11:52:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO
KNOW IF THEY ARE BREAKING THE CONTRACT?
LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW IF THE DATA IS ASKED FOR AND
TAKEN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY WOULDN'T GO TO YOU.
THEY WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO RED SPEED.
SO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THE CAMERAS ARE NOT USED CORRECTLY?
11:52:44AM >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
IT IS HARD TO ANSWER.
HYPOTHETICALS THAT DON'T EXIST RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD SAY THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS CAMERA IS NOT
INTEGRATED WITH FLOCK.
THIS IS LITERALLY JUST A CAMERA RIGHT NOW THAT IS TRYING TO
CAPTURE SPEED DATA.
AND THE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PROCESS THE VIOLATION THAT'S
NECESSARY.
OTHER DATA WINDS UP GETTING DELETED AND DESTROYED, AND THEN
THE DATA NEEDED FOR PROCESSING THOSE ONES THAT ARE
DETERMINED VIOLATIONS CAN BE KEPT BY THE LAW FOR 90 DAYS,
AND YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR SURVEILLANCE.
THEY WOULD BE VIOLATING BOTH STATE AND OUR LAW.
HOW WOULD WE KNOW?
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.
11:53:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH SO WE DON'T.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WE'VE SEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
CONTINUOUSLY NOT FOLLOWING THE LAWS THAT THEY HAVE.
WE'RE HEARING OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE STOPPED WORKING WITH
THESE COMPANIES AND THE CAMERAS KEEP GOING.
THERE WAS ONE ARTICLE I BELIEVE IT WAS IN WISCONSIN THEY ARE
HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT RIGHT NOW THAT THEY ARE PUTTING
TRASH BAGS OVER THE CAMERAS SO THEY ARE NOT CONTINUING TO
RECORD DATA.
THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING ASKED
ABOUT.
AFTER THIS VOTE, I'VE HAD CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH
COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAYING I AM WORRIED ABOUT THAT HAPPENING
HERE.
WHEN I ASK AND YOU SAY YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE IT -- I MEAN, I
UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
POSITION THAT WE'RE IN IN THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOT TRUSTING
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS NOT FOLLOWING ITS OWN RULES
RIGHT NOW.
SO HOW CAN WE GUARANTEE THAT THESE RULES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
FOLLOWED?
OR THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWED?
THE ANSWER IS WE CAN'T.
11:54:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:54:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST THE -- THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED A YEAR
OR SO AGO.
THE CONTRACT WAS PASSED A FEW MONTHS AGO.
THE EFFECT OF VOTING NO TODAY IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO
CHANGE THE CONTRACT AND NOT CHANGE THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE
THEY EXIST.
I VOTED AGAINST THE CONTRACT, BUT I VOTED FOR THE ORDINANCE
JUST TO CREATE THE POSSIBILITY OF IT.
THE ONLY EFFECT TODAY IS THAT THE LIST PRIMARILY IN EAST
TAMPA IS STILL GOING TO EXIST.
DO YOU HAVE THE LIST OR THE MAP OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER?
YOU SHOWED THE AFTER, BUT DO YOU HAVE THE BEFORE?
MY CONCERN, IF WE DO NOTHING TODAY, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE
AN OVERCONCENTRATION IN EAST TAMPA AND I DON'T WANT THAT
EITHER.
11:55:33AM >> I DO NOT HAVE THAT MAP, BUT --
11:55:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS IT CORRECT MOST OR ALL OF THEM ARE IN
EAST TAMPA?
11:55:42AM >> A MAJORITY, YES, SIR.
11:55:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM THE COMMUNITY
THIS MORNING BUT WE'VE HEARD SEPARATELY ABOUT THAT.
IF THE ORDINANCE CAME BEFORE US AGAIN, I MIGHT VOTE NO.
NOW THAT THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED, THE CONTRACT IS PASSED,
NOW ALL WE'RE DOING IS SPREADING THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY
AND SOME OF THEM WILL GO TO SOUTH TAMPA.
I THINK SOME FOLKS IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE OKAY WITH IT.
THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT HAVING TOO MANY IN EAST TAMPA FOR A
LOT OF REASONS.
I DON'T WANT TO VOTE NO JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS IN ITEM 59, WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE
BASED ON CONVERSATION WITH EMILY HINSDALE AND OTHERS IS WE
DIRECT THE $10 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE SURPLUS IS NET OF
WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVERYBODY GETS, THAT WE
ALLOCATE IT ONLY FOR SCHOOL SAFETY.
THEN WE'LL SEE IF THE ADMINISTRATION FIGHTS BACK, THEN WE
KNOW IT WAS A CASH GRAB.
AS EMILY SAID THIS MORNING, THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
THINGS WE CAN DO FOR SCHOOL SAFETY OTHER THAN JUST THESE AND
PLACES THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THESE, WE CAN PUT NARROWER
ROADS, RAISED CROSS WALKS, FLASHING SIGNS AND OTHER THINGS.
BECAUSE WHAT WE ULTIMATELY -- ULTIMATELY THIS SHOULD NOT BE
ABOUT COLLECTING MONEY.
IT SHOULD BE ABOUT STOPPING PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING THROUGH
THESE AREAS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT KIDS AND FAMILIES TO GET
HIT.
THAT WILL BE ITEM 59.
I'M CONCERNED NOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT AN OVERCONCENTRATION
IN EAST TAMPA.
11:57:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
11:57:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I THINK HAVING IT SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY IS MUCH BETTER, BUT
I'M HAVING A VERY HARD TIME WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO GUARANTEE
IN TERMS OF THE CAMERAS AND THEN WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE
ANYTHING.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR.
WE DID THIS.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T.
I HEAR BOTH OF YOU.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AS
THEY ARE GOING TO AND FROM SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND
HIGH SCHOOL.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
I'M HAVING A HARD -- I'M HAVING A HARD TIME JUST NOT BEING
ABLE TO GUARANTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMPANY IS NOT GOING
TO BE STILL CAPTURING DATA OR SHARING INFORMATION.
11:58:10AM >> AGAIN, IF THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS IN BREACH OF
THE CONTRACT OR IN BREACH OF THE LAW --
11:58:15AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BUT IT'S NOT IN THEIR CONTRACT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:58:18AM >> IT IS IN THEIR CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR
ORDINANCES AND OUR LAWS.
SO AS LONG AS OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT THEY CANNOT USE ANY OF
THE DATA FOR SURVEILLANCE PURPOSES, ANY KIND OF DATA
SHARING, THEN THEY CANNOT DO THAT.
IF THEY DO THAT, THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
IT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD BE A
BREACH OF CONTRACT, AND IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY CANCELED.
AGAIN, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED, THERE IS A REPORTING
REQUIREMENT.
AN ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS TO
COUNCIL.
WE WILL BE MAKING AN ANNUAL REPORT TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE
PROGRAM.
AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CHANGING THE
LOCATIONS, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTRACT OR WITH
THE ORDINANCE.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANT THIS TO PASS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE 18
LOCATIONS THAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, BUT IF THIS DOESN'T
PASS, WE WILL JUST PUT THE CAMERAS IN THE 12 LOCATIONS THAT
THE ORDINANCE ALREADY ALLOWS US TO.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
WE WANT TO PUT THEM THE PLACES WHERE WE DETERMINE THROUGH A
BETTER STUDY THAT THERE ARE MORE NECESSARY, BUT REGARDLESS
OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE AT THE 12 LOCATIONS IN THE
EXISTING ORDINANCE OR IN THE 18 LOCATIONS THAT'S IN THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WE'RE STILL GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
VENDOR DOESN'T DO ANYTHING THAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO
BASED UPON OUR LAWS.
11:59:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND I HEAR YOU, BUT ALSO, I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING
TO CHANGE OUR EVO AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THE LAWS IN
TALLAHASSEE ARE CHANGING.
NOT TRYING TO FORESHADOW THAT WE'LL HAVE TO CHANGE AGAIN,
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE UNCOMFORTABILITY COMES FROM.
UNLESS THE LAW IS CHANGED, BUT THEY ARE CHANGING.
YES, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS ARE SAFE.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT'S JUST REALLY UNEASY.
THAT'S ALL.
12:00:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT HAPPENS IN MARCH -- HOLD ON.
MARCH OF '27, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CONTRACT?
CAN THEY UP WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION OR DO WE HAVE TO BOTH
CONCUR?
12:00:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER MR.
SCHMID HAS THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF HIM.
BUT I WILL SAY IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A RENEWAL,
THAT IS NORMALLY ADMINISTRATIVELY -- IT COULD BE
ADMINISTRATIVELY DONE.
BUT THAT REQUIRES I GUESS A DISCUSSION OF THE CONTRACT
ITSELF.
12:00:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DEPENDS ON WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
WHEN YOU FIND THE INFORMATION, LET ME KNOW.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE WAS DONE BY A PRIVATE VENDOR
THAT BENEFITS BY INCREASED FINES.
IF IT WAS DONE BY PUBLIC, THERE SELF-DEAL, SELF-INTEREST
THAT A PUBLIC VENDOR WHO SUPPLIES THE CAMERAS FINANCIALLY
BENEFITS FROM EXPANDING THESE AREAS.
SO THAT CAUSES ME PAUSE AND SOME CONCERN.
AGAIN, I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, I HAVE ISSUES WITH THESE
TO BEGIN WITH.
I THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WE CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY
WITHOUT INFRINGING ON FOLKS' CIVIL RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS.
AGAIN, I REGRET MY FIRST VOTE ON THIS.
IT IS MY INTENTION TO VOTE AGAINST THIS THIS TIME AROUND
BECAUSE OF THAT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:01:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IRRESPECTIVE OF
THIS ORDINANCE.
SINCE THIS IS GOING TO END IN MARCH OF '27, I THINK WHAT WE
CAN DO AS A COUNCIL, AT LEAST THOSE OF US WHO TEND TO BE
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, CAN SIGNAL NOW THAT WE DON'T INTEND TO
CONTINUE AFTER MARCH '27.
AND INSTEAD ASK STAFF TWO THINGS.
ONE, I'M GOING TO ASK LEGAL STAFF TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT
AND SEE WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE FOR EARLY TERMINATION.
THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.
MY SECOND MOTION IS TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO OUT NOW
AND GET AN RFQ, RFP, WHATEVER.
I CAN NEVER REMEMBER THE DIFFERENCE.
AND TO FIND A VENDOR THAT DOES NOT PARTNER WITH FLOCK.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT IS WHAT THEY DON'T WANT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THOSE TWO MOTIONS.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS
KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS SUGGESTIONS, I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE
THEM.
12:03:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON A SECOND.
RIGHT NOW, PROCEDURAL-WISE, WE'RE HEARING THIS MOTION FOR
CONSIDERATION.
12:03:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS ABOUT THIS CONTRACT GOING FORWARD.
12:03:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
DO WE NEED TO -- SOMEBODY GIVE ME SOME ADVICE.
12:03:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS WITH
THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE JUST SUGGESTED.
12:03:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
ACTION.
12:03:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FRANKLY THIS IS ALSO FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION.
COUNCIL HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS.
YOU CAN VOTE IT UP AND MOVE IT TO SECOND READING AND PUBLIC
HEARING.
OR YOU CAN VOTE IT DOWN OR YOU CAN CONTINUE IT.
12:03:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I EXPLAIN MY RATIONALE.
12:03:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I UNDERSTAND.
12:03:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, YOU DON'T.
12:03:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW PROCEDURALLY --
12:03:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE ALREADY PASSED THE ORDINANCE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE ONLY OBLIGATED THROUGH MARCH '27.
SO WHY DON'T WE START NOW FIGURING OUT WHAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN AFTER THAT.
12:03:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, HERE IS THE ISSUE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE CONSIDERING ITEM 53.
THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS SORT OF LIKE NEW BUSINESS MOTION.
12:04:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW DO
YOU DISPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU
RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT MOTION.
12:04:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
12:04:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, SHE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THEM
TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE IT END OR WHATEVER AT THE
END OF MARCH, RIGHT?
12:04:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXCEPT THAT WOULD NOT BE GERMANE TO THIS
BECAUSE THIS IS STRICTLY LIMITED TO THE LOCATIONS.
I AGREE WITH MR. SHELBY'S ADVICE.
I THINK WE DEAL WITH THIS UP OR DOWN AND ADDRESS --
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PLEASE.
12:04:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS LOOKING FROM 12
TO 18, AM I CORRECT, LOCATIONS?
12:04:53PM >> YES, SIR.
12:04:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECONDLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL
RIGHTS.
I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S RIGHTS AND THE PARENTS' RIGHTS IF
SOME KID GETS KILLED BECAUSE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN
THE 12 THAT WE HAVE NOW AND SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THE 6 THAT
WE'RE -- WHERE DO WE STAND THERE?
YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS ONE THING.
TRAFFIC IN A SCHOOL ZONE IS ANOTHER.
WAY BACK, VERY FEW GOT KILLED.
NOT TRAFFIC.
LIFE OR DEATH IN A LOT OF AREAS.
WE ARE SPEEDING WHETHER WE KNOW IT OR NOT.
USED TO BE IN THE OLD DAYS YOU COULD FEEL THE WIND BECAUSE
YOU DIDN'T HAVE AIR-CONDITIONING AND COULD FEEL HOW FAST YOU
WERE GOING WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE SPEEDOMETER.
NOW YOU HAVE AIR-CONDITIONING, FOAM INSIDE, YOU DON'T HEAR
YOUR GRANDMOTHER YELLING AT YOU WHEN SHE'S NEXT TO YOU.
TALKING ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS, WHAT ABOUT CHILDREN'S RIGHTS OR
PARENTS' RIGHTS THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO THE KILLED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, AM I CORRECT IN YOUR ADVICE
THAT THIS IS AN UP-OR-DOWN VOTE --
12:06:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
12:06:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OR CONTINUANCE.
12:06:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS.
12:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TELL ME MY MULTIPLE OPTIONS, PLEASE.
12:06:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE
CONCERNS, ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS IS TO MOVE IT ON FIRST READING
BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF FIRST READING IS TO COMPLY WITH
CHAPTER 166 OF FLORIDA STATUTES.
THEN IT GETS SET -- YOU COULD PUT OFF THE DATE OF SECOND
READING.
DEPENDS WHAT DATE YOU WANT TO SET IT TO.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON SECOND READING,
IT'S ALSO SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, SO THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO
THEN COME OUT AND SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO IT, DURING WHICH
TIME YOU CAN HAVE THOSE ISSUES ADDRESSED BY STAFF REPORTS SO
YOU CAN HAVE THE CONTRACT IN FRONT OF YOU.
YOU CAN HAVE THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU WITH REGARD TO THE
PROCESS.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO VOTE THIS DOWN AT FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, BUT THEN YOU HEARD THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE
FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ALSO REQUIRES COUNCIL MAKE A
FINDING OF FACT THAT THIS IS DONE FOR THE PURPOSE OF DATA
THAT SUPPORTS EACH SCHOOL ZONE IS BEING CHOSEN FOR
HEIGHTENED SAFETY.
WHAT YOU ARE ACKNOWLEDGING BY PASSING THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT
THE 12 THAT YOU DO HAVE MAY OR MAY NOT COMPLY.
BUT WHEN THE ORDINANCE IS AMENDED, THEN THE REASON THESE ARE
BEING CHOSEN AND HAVE TO BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE WHEREAS
CLAUSES BUT SHOULD ALSO BE STATED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS
PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF HEIGHTENED
SAFETY.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, THEN AS MR.
MIRANDA JUST SAID OR AS JUST WAS STATED, THE STATUS QUO
REMAINS AND THE ORDINANCE REMAINS IN EFFECT AND THE CONTRACT
REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL YOU ADDRESS IT.
12:07:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT JUST A
CHANGE OF LOCATION.
THIS IS AN INCREASE BY 50% THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS FROM 12 TO
18.
WE'RE NOT JUST CHANGING LOCATIONS, WE'RE INCREASING THE
NUMBER OF CAMERAS.
12:08:13PM >> TO TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE, THE PREVIOUS
ORDINANCE LISTED THE SCHOOLS AND NOT THE SCHOOL ZONES.
AND SOME OF THOSE, THERE WAS ONE SCHOOL THAT HAD TWO STREETS
THAT HAD FLASHERS.
I THINK THE PRIOR NUMBER OF CAMERAS WAS CLOSER TO 24 BECAUSE
ONE OF THE SCHOOLS CLOSED.
IT WAS 24 CAMERAS LAST TIME AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AN
INCREASE, YES.
BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT WAS --
12:08:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
INCREASE TO HOW MANY CAMERAS?
12:08:47PM >> I THINK 18 TIMES 2, SO 36.
24 TO 36.
12:08:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S A 50% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
SCHOOLS AND THEN WHATEVER TO THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS.
MR. SHELBY.
12:08:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE, THIS
BEING SOMETHING THAT COULD ALSO BE RAISED AT PUBLIC HEARING,
IS WHAT IS THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT?
IS THERE DATA THAT SUPPORTS HEIGHTENED SAFETY THAT --
12:09:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PRIVATE VENDOR.
12:09:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- AN INCREASE.
12:09:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT IT'S DONE BY A PRIVATE VENDOR THAT IS
FINANCIALLY -- THAT FINANCIALLY BENEFITS FROM THE STUDY.
12:09:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT VERY WELL MAY BE TRUE BUT THAT IS A
PUBLIC POLICY DISCUSSION YOU CAN CERTAINLY HAVE.
THE QUESTION IS, MY UNDERSTANDING AND I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH --
12:09:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, LET ME DEFER TO COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
12:09:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE ISSUES WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW ARE ISSUES OF
POLICY AS OPPOSED TO WHETHER OR NOT IT IS A PRIVATE VENDOR
THAT DOES IT, ET CETERA.
I WANT TO DEAL WITH, IF THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES IN PLAY HERE,
BUT I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE POLICY ISSUES.
NUMBER ONE, THERE'S ONE PERSON YOU ALL HEAR FROM, FROM NEW
TAMPA EVERY WEEK, AND IT'S ME.
IF THIS THING DOESN'T PASS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF
FOLKS.
I PROMISE YOU, I HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT LIBERTY, ABOUT THE
FREEDOM AREA, ABOUT CHILES, ABOUT BONITO, AND WHAT THIS DOES
IS EXPAND THIS PROGRAM, AS I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR, INTO THE
NEW TAMPA AREA.
THIS ISN'T SOME RADICAL THING WE'RE DOING.
AGAIN, IF YOU SUPPORT IT PHILOSOPHICALLY, LIKE I DO, AND
AGAIN SOME FOLKS DON'T.
I RESPECT THAT.
THIS IS A GOOD THING.
AGAIN, I STRESS, WE SHOULDN'T LET THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF
THIS PROGRAM PRECLUDE THE REASONABLE AND NORMAL USE OF THIS
PROGRAM WHICH BENEFITS PUBLIC SAFETY, IN MY OPINION.
I WANT TO STRESS THAT.
WE GOT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
AS I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WE'RE CHANGING
THE SCHOOLS.
THAT'S IT.
IF THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT, AGAIN, I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC
TO THAT WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, LET'S DO THAT, BUT I
THINK WE OUGHT TO PASS THIS THING ON FIRST READING.
AGAIN, IF WE WANT -- I KNOW THERE ARE ANNUAL REVIEWS, IF WE
WANT TO PUT IT AS A MATTER OF POLICY TO HAVE SOMETHING IN
WRITING, VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.
I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THAT.
BUT, AGAIN, WE SHOULD MOVE THIS FORWARD.
I'M PREPARED AGAIN TO VOTE FOR 53 AS IS.
IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL POLICY ISSUES WE WANT TO DEAL WITH
IN THE FUTURE TODAY, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
THANK YOU.
12:11:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO CORRECT YOUR STATEMENT, THOUGH,
IT'S NOT JUST DOING IT, IT'S ALSO EXPANDING THE SCHOOLS AND
EXPANDING CAMERAS.
IT'S NOT JUST CHANGING LOCATIONS.
EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF CAMERAS AND EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF
SCHOOLS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:11:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE STUDY.
IT WASN'T IN THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS.
WHERE IS THE STUDY?
12:11:38PM >> THE STUDY IS IN THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS.
12:11:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE FULL STUDY ITSELF?
12:11:43PM >> IT WAS PLACED IN THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS.
12:11:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
12:11:47PM >> I CAN GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT.
12:11:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT OVER LUNCH AND TAKE
A LOOK.
12:11:56PM >> IF I COULD ADDRESS SOMETHING REAL QUICK WITH THE STUDY,
IT WAS PERFORMED BY THE VENDOR, BUT IT WAS VALIDATED.
THE STUDY BASICALLY WAS THEY PUT RADARS IN THESE SCHOOL
ZONES AND COUNTED THE NUMBERS OF CARS GOING THROUGH THE
SCHOOL ZONES EACH DAY DURING THE HOURS THAT WOULD RECEIVE
CITATIONS.
IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS OPEN-ENDED KIND
OF INTERPRETATION.
IT IS ALL EMPIRICAL DATA THAT WAS CAPTURED BY RADAR.
12:12:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
12:12:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, I WANT TO BRING TO THIS DISCUSSION
JUST SOMETHING GENERALLY SO YOU KNOW THIS AND DON'T CONFLATE
THIS PUBLIC POLICY DISCUSSION WITH A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
NORMALLY WHEN I SAY WHEN YOU VOTE FOR SOMETHING ON FIRST
READING, YOU BETTER HAVE A DARN GOOD REASON TO CHANGE YOUR
VOTE ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC POLICY MATTER.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
THIS IS FAIRLY DEBATABLE.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS PROCEDURALLY UNDER FLORIDA LAW SETTING
THIS -- IF YOU DO APPROVE IT AND I'M NOT TAKING A POSITION,
PLEASE.
DON'T ASSUME THAT I AM.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS JUST MOVING THIS FORWARD TO SET IT FOR
PUBLIC HEARING AND A SECOND READING.
FAIRLY DEBATABLE IS A VERY LOOSE STANDARD.
YOU CAN VOTE THIS DOWN AS LONG AS IT'S NOT JUST ARBITRARY
AND CAPRICIOUS, AS LONG AS YOU CAN ARTICULATE ANY REASON.
YOU ARE NOT MARRIED TO THIS FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT JUST
FOR MOVING IT FORWARD IF IT GIVES YOU THE TIME TO GET THE
QUESTIONS ANSWERED OR WHAT YOU DO IS IF YOU HAVE ANY
CONCERN, THEN YOU CONTINUE THIS ITEM AND THEN ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS.
12:13:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OR VOTE IT DOWN.
12:13:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OR VOTE IT DOWN, OBVIOUSLY.
12:13:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHIEF, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
12:13:39PM >> THREE POINTS WHILE COUNCIL IS DELIBERATING ON THIS.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
FROM THE PURCHASING POINT OF VIEW, TYPICALLY OUR CONTRACTS
HAVE A FOR CLAUSE, NOT FOR CLAUSE AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
POINT, THE RFP PROCESS.
BETWEEN THE VOTES WE COULD TALK ABOUT ALL THREE OF THOSE.
THE SECOND THING IS WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP ABOUT
THE GEOEQUITY CONSIDERATION.
I THINK THAT'S VALID.
I WAS A SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMANDER OVER TRAFFIC YEARS AGO,
GEOEQUITY WAS MY NUMBER ONE THING CITYWIDE.
THIRD THING THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON ALSO MENTIONED,
TYPICALLY IN THIS SPACE IT'S EDUCATION, ENGINEERING THEN
ENFORCEMENT.
WHATEVER PROCEEDS WORK THEIR WAY BACK TO IMPROVE EDUCATION
AND ENGINEERING BY DEFAULT WILL LOWER ENFORCEMENT OVER TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THOSE THREE ELEMENTS FROM THE
PURCHASING EQUITY AND THE USE OF THE FUNDS FOR THE FUTURE
FOR COUNCIL TO THINK THROUGH.
12:14:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE?
GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:14:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STUDY THAT WAS
DONE BY THE VENDOR.
I LOOKED AT WHATEVER WAS IN THE FILE.
MY RECOLLECTION OF THE METHODOLOGY IS THAT THE VENDOR HAS AN
INCENTIVE TO FIND THE SPOTS THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST NUMBER OF
VIOLATIONS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO PICK
THE SCHOOL ZONES THAT THE MOST PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING THROUGH.
SO I THINK THAT IS AN OKAY INCENTIVE BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH
OURS, THAT WE WANT TO REDUCE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF SPEEDING.
WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES.
THAT'S THE THING.
KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
IN LOOKING AT THE OTHER KINDS OF STUDIES ABOUT THE OVERALL
EFFECTIVENESS, THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE
PEER REVIEWED DATA AND THAT THE INDUSTRY WILL SAY 65% PLUS.
PEER REVIEW SAY 45.
45 IS STILL GREAT.
THAT'S WHY IN 59 I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER MEASURES AS WELL
AS WE ALLUDED TO A MINUTE AGO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO.
WE'RE STUCK HERE.
WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE OR APPROVE IT AND THEN WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS THE OVERALL ISSUES EITHER WITH A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE
OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM.
12:15:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
12:15:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO WHEN I THINK -- THERE IS A WOMAN IN EAST
TAMPA THAT I VISIT A FEW TIMES.
AS I'M STANDING OUTSIDE TALKING TO HER, YOU CAN VISIBLY SEE
HOW SCARED SHE IS BECAUSE OF HOW FAST THE CARS GO IN FRONT
OF THE SCHOOL.
I'VE SAID IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, OUR CHILDREN ARE DEFINITELY
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
I WANT TO BE SURE WHETHER ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, HIGH SCHOOL
THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE GOING TO SCHOOL.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT ON THE
COUNCIL.
I THINK FOR ME, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THE CAPTURING OF THE
DATA.
WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT, ABOUT
THE SURVEILLANCE.
WE'RE SEEING LAWS CHANGING EVERY OTHER DAY, AND WE'RE HAVING
TO ADJUST HERE ON COUNCIL.
HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS MORE CONCRETE I THINK IN THE
CONTRACT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I KNOW THIS CONTRACT ENDS IN MARCH 2027.
AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKING ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING
SOMETHING OUT RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO FIND
SOMEONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T USE THIS SYSTEM OR WHOEVER, TO
CAPTURE THE DATA, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN
-- I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPLORE.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IS WE ARE IN 2026.
AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN REALLY
PRETTY MUCH DO EVERYTHING.
WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT MAYBE HAVING RAISED CROSSWALKS,
HAVING SPEED BUMPS.
I WOULD LOVE FOR OUR CITY TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INNOVATIVE
AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO?
HOW CAN WE BE INNOVATIVE TO WHERE WE ARE STILL PROTECTING
OUR CHILDREN?
SOME OF THESE CAMERAS ARE PROBABLY GOING IN NEIGHBORHOODS
THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE SIDEWALKS.
SO WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL BUT ALSO
ADMINISTRATIVE, WE NEED TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE IN THINKING OF
OTHER THINGS.
IT'S EASY TO GO TO CAMERAS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ALL
BEEN DOING.
LET'S BE A LITTLE MORE INNOVATIVE AND THINK, WHAT ELSE CAN
WE DO SO WE CAN PROTECT OUR CHILDREN STILL AND THAT WE ARE
MAKING SURE, AGAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ABOUT OUR
CHILDREN.
THAT FOR ME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
AND WE'RE SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT A MICROLEVEL AND HOW
IT'S AFFECTING US.
SO LET'S START TO THINK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THIS ENDS IN 2027.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD AND MAYBE FIND ANOTHER
COMPANY TO WORK WITH OR SOMETHING.
AGAIN, THINKING OF OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN PROTECT OUR
CHILDREN.
12:18:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL SAID.
THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ANYBODY ELSE?
THIS WILL BE IT.
12:18:45PM >> CHAIR, JUST TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, THE CONTRACT --
SCHMID, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
CONTRACT I SAID APPROXIMATELY MARCH.
I HAD TIME TO LOOK IT UP.
IT'S AUGUST TO CLARIFY THAT.
IT'S AUGUST, SO I WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
THE SECOND THING IS THE CONTRACT ALSO SAYS IT CAN BE
TERMINATED WITH 30 DAYS' NOTICE FOR ANY CAUSE.
LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE LAW AND
STARTED SAYING THAT WE COULD USE THESE CAMERAS FOR
SURVEILLANCE, AND YOU GUYS FOUND OUT THAT THAT LEGISLATION
HAPPENS, ONE, YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF NOTICE BECAUSE LAWS
DON'T BECOME EFFECTIVE TYPICALLY UNTIL JULY 1st OR
OCTOBER.
AND YOU GUYS SAW THAT THAT LEGISLATION NEXT SESSION WAS
COMING DOWN THE PIPE.
YOU SAW THE LAW WAS COMING, YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY BRING THIS
ITEM BACK UP AND TELL US WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
TERMINATING THE CONTRACT AT THAT POINT.
WE CAN DO IT WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE, WHICH MEANS IF SUCH
LEGISLATION PASSED AND YOU WISHED US TO ADDRESS THE
TERMINATION OF THE CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD
ABSOLUTELY COME AND TALK ABOUT IT.
AS FAR AS GOING BACK OUT FOR A DIFFERENT VENDOR, THIS VENDOR
IS THE SAME ONE THE COUNTY USES.
THIS VENDOR IS THE PREDOMINANT VENDOR USED IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA.
WE ARE NOT WANTING TO GO SEEK ANOTHER VENDOR.
THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PUT INTO
THIS THROUGH A SUCCESSFUL RFP, WE DO NOT THINK JUST BECAUSE
WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAWS IN TALLAHASSEE THAT THE
CORRECT WAY TO RESPOND IS SEARCH FOR ANOTHER VENDOR.
WE THINK WE CAN ALREADY TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITH OR
WITHOUT CAUSE SHOULD THERE BE A CONCERN IN THE FUTURE BASED
ON LEGISLATION.
WE'RE ASKING YOU AGAIN TO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT AND
THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING TODAY IS JUST TRYING TO AMEND THE
LOCATIONS.
12:20:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU SAID TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU SAID WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE.
CAN WE TERMINATE WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE.
12:20:39PM >> WITH CAUSE OR WITHOUT CAUSE.
12:20:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE COULD SAY TOMORROW WE NO LONGER WANT TO
BE IN THE CONTRACT AND GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE.
12:20:46PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
12:20:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT FACTUAL?
12:20:49PM >> IT SAYS TERMINATE FOR ANY REASON.
USUALLY IT'S WITH OR WITHOUT CAUSE IS THE LANGUAGE THEY USE.
12:20:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR ANY REASON.
AND IN AUGUST OF '27, DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXTEND
WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION?
CAN THEY EXERCISE THE RIGHT FOR EXTENSION?
12:21:08PM >> IN AUGUST OF '27, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE
EXTENSION PERIODS IN THERE.
I ASSUME THE COUNTY WOULD PROBABLY EXTEND IT I ASSUME THE
CITY WOULD PROBABLY ELECT TO EXTEND IT.
I WOULD WANT PURCHASING TO ANSWER THAT HYPOTHETICAL
QUESTION.
THAT QUESTION --
12:21:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
UNTIL THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED I THINK
WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
12:21:34PM >> WE CAN GET YOU THE ANSWER BEFORE SECOND READ.
12:21:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:21:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO FOLKS ABOUT THIS OVER
LUNCH GIVEN THAT IT'S 12:22.
AND I ALREADY SAW THAT CHIEF TRIPP LEFT BECAUSE PROBABLY
ALSO -- OH, SHE'S STILL HERE.
SORRY.
A, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
B, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THIS UNTIL AFTER LUNCH SO I HAVE A
CHANCE TO RELOOK AT THE CONTRACT, TO REALLY RECONSIDER
BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY THE TIME AND EFFORT FOR THE RFP, YOU
WENT THROUGH THE TIME AND EFFORT TO GO TO THE INITIAL RFP
BUT THEN YOU PIGGYBACKED ON A COUNTY.
THAT WASN'T A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT.
THAT WAS JUST PIGGYBACKING.
12:22:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEAR A MOTION TO DEFER CONSIDERATION OF
THIS ITEM UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
12:22:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, SO MOVED.
12:22:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AS A COURTESY, I'LL SECOND.
12:22:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
12:22:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO TALK NOW
BECAUSE THEY MIGHT LEAVE AFTER LUNCH.
12:22:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, DID YOU SAY CHIEF
TRIPP IS STILL HERE?
CHIEF TRIPP, ARE YOU HERE?
IF SO, CAN YOU COME BACK TO LET US KNOW IF YOU ARE READY TO
PRESENT AND HOW LONG YOU NEED?
CHIEF TRIPP, FOR YOUR BRIEFING ITEM, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK
THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE?
12:23:02PM >> FIVE MINUTES.
12:23:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO TO YOU
BEFORE LUNCH TO GET YOU GUYS OUT OF HERE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 53?
WE'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AFTER LUNCH.
IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT AHEAD OF TIME, COME UP NOW, SAY
YOUR NAME AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:23:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHILE THEY ARE COMING UP, I WANT THE PUBLIC
TO BE AWARE AND ESPECIALLY COUNCIL THAT THESE ITEMS ARE NOT
SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
AS A COURTESY YOU ALLOW PUBLIC.
IF IT DOES GO TO SECOND READING AS ADVERTISED PUBLIC
HEARING.
12:23:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AS A COURTESY, MS. POYNOR, REMEMBER THAT.
12:23:34PM >> I'M NOT GOING TO TALK LONG.
MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
SOMETHING SMELLS.
SOMETHING SMELLS BIG TIME AND YOU ALL SMELL IT.
DON'T MAKE A VOTE ON THIS UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THE
PROBLEM IS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE TODAY.
CONTINUE IT UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT WHY IT SMELLS.
BECAUSE WHEN IT SMELLS, THERE'S POOP.
12:24:02PM >> JAMES ADAIR.
NOT FOR OR AGAINST THE TOPIC AT HAND.
I THINK THESE ARE ALL SUBJECT TO PUBLIC RECORDS ANYWAY WITH
REDACTION OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.
I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE I.C.E. ISSUES HUNDRED PERCENT
AND THAT MAY BE IN AND OF ITSELF TO NOT EVEN HAVE THE
EVIDENCE AVAILABLE.
IT WOULDN'T TAKE LONG TO GET THESE RECORDS WITH A GOOD
REQUEST.
12:24:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE?
JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE DEFERRING CONSIDERATION OF 53
UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO FIRE STATION 24 STAFF REPORT.
I RECOGNIZE CHIEF TRIPP.
YES, MA'AM.
12:24:42PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
CHIEF TRIPP HERE, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
I HAVE MY PROJECT MANAGER, MR. KEN GUYETTE.
WE'LL GIVE A PRESENTATION UPDATE FOR OUR QUARTERLY ON
STATION 24.
WE DO HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION.
WE DO HAVE THE CONTRACTOR ONLINE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
FOR THEM AS WELL.
OF COURSE, WE HAVE MR. MUTTERBACK IN OUR AUDIENCE.
12:25:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS MORNING.
12:25:08PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILORS.
KEN GUYETTE WITH COLLIERS PROJECT LEADERS.
REGIONAL LEADER FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
JUST HERE TO GIVE YOU THE JUNE UPDATE ON OUR PROJECT.
AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.
NO CHANGES TO THE SLIDE.
BASICALLY OUR CORE TEAM WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS
PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS KIND OF MORE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT SLIDE
WHICH IS OUR UPDATE.
GOOD NEWS, WE RECEIVED THE DRAFT GMP ON TIME ON MAY 15,
WE'VE DONE OUR REVIEW BETWEEN THE CHIEF AND I.
CURRENTLY, THE COST IS UNDER BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THAT CONSTRUCTION COST WAS SLIGHTLY UNDER WHERE IT WAS
PRIOR TO THE GMP.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO REPORT ON THAT.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE GMP APPROVAL COMING BEFORE YOU ALL, WE
ARE PUSHING FOR THE JULY 16 MEETING TO GET THAT RESOLVED AND
HAVE THAT BE COMPLETED SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION ON
SEPTEMBER 4.
SO THAT LEADS US TO A KIND OF NEXT BIG ITEM WHICH IS VERY
IMPORTANT, SCHEDULING THE GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY.
I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO CHAT ABOUT
AND GET THAT ESTABLISHED.
WE'RE ALSO DOING OUR FF&E PROCUREMENT.
THAT'S BEEN ONGOING.
THE CHIEF AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR TEAM INTERNALLY
TO GET ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PART OF CONSTRUCTION
PURCHASED AND READY TO GO SO THAT WE DON'T MISS A BEAT WHEN
IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION.
BASED ON CURRENT SCHEDULE INCLUDED WITH THE GMP, LOOKING AT
OCTOBER 25 SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IN 2027.
AGAIN, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU.
12:26:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DID YOU HAVE A
QUESTION?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:26:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG ROAD FOR HERE, BEGINNING
REALLY IN THE END OF 2023 AND THE BUDGET WHEN WE FORMALLY I
BELIEVE THAT WAS THE YEAR WHEN WE FORMALLY APPROVED DESIGN
FOR THIS.
AND NOW WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AT HERE.
IT'S REALLY RELEVANT TO NOTE THAT WITH THIS, LAST THREE FIRE
STATIONS HAVE BEEN IN THE NORTH AND NEW TAMPA AREA, IF YOU
INCLUDE 24.
WE HAD 23 WHICH WE DID IN 2017 IF I RECALL FOR THE GRAND
HAMPTON AREA AND THEN 25, WHICH IS FOR NORTH TAMPA, SULPHUR
SPRINGS AREA, WHICH CHIEF TRIPP, THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR FIRST
PRIORITIES WHEN YOU CAME IN.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH A QUICK WIN, WASN'T IT?
YOU GOT IN.
WE REFURBISHED THE STATION.
IT WAS GREAT.
WHAT THIS GOES TO FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC AND FOLKS WHO
ARE WATCHING, I SAY RIGHT OR WRONG AND SOMETHING WE ALL
AGREE ON, WHICH IS ON STATION 13, WHICH FOR A TIME THERE FOR
A REALLY LONG TIME, IT WAS ABOUT THE 54th BUSIEST STATION
IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT SAID THERE THEY HAVE A PAINTING OF FREDDY KRUEGER THERE,
AND IT SAYS, USED TO BE CALLED NIGHTMARE ON ANNIE STREET.
IT SAYS, IF YOU WORK HERE, YOU WON'T SLEEP.
THANK GOD THE NUMBERS ARE LOOKING GREAT FOR PURPOSES OF THE
NUMBER OF CALLS AND SO FORTH AT THE HEIGHT BEFORE WE WORKED
TOGETHER ON STATION 25, STATION 13 WAS ONE OUT OF 23
STATIONS THAT TOOK UP 1 OUT OF 7 CALLS.
NOW THE NUMBERS ARE IMPROVING BECAUSE OF STATION 25.
NOW WITH 24, WE'RE GOING TO FINISH WHAT WE STARTED.
THAT'S GREAT AND REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY BIG DEAL.
OBVIOUSLY WITH THE TIMELINE, SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT, WE ARE
WHERE WE ARE AT HERE.
WE ARE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT SEPTEMBER DATE AND WE
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, EVERYBODY WITH ALL HANDS
ON DECK ON THIS.
BECAUSE FOR MY DISTRICT, NORTH TAMPA, THIS IS A HUGE
PRIORITY, A VERY, VERY BIG PRIORITY.
I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING, RELEVANT TO NOTE, PROJECTS LIKE
THIS COST MONEY.
I HAD TRIED TO START A FEW YEARS AGO A DISCUSSION ON A
DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT WASN'T SUPPORTED.
PEOPLE DISAGREED.
FINE.
NOW WE'RE GOING THE OPPOSITE END WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
REALLY, REALLY REDUCE MASS CIVIL PROPERTY TAXES -- MASSIVELY
PROPERTY TAXES IN FLORIDA AND SOME THINGS THAT FUND THINGS
LIKE STATION 24, STATION 25, STATION 23.
SOMETHING I REALLY HOPE THE PUBLIC WILL CONSIDER.
AGAIN, REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE REPORT.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD.
THANK YOU, GUYS.
12:29:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CARLSON.
12:29:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THIS A TYPO?
BECAUSE IT SAYS OCTOBER 25 SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION?
12:29:41PM >> OCTOBER 25 OF 2027.
12:29:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING THOSE IN JUST
BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION ABOUT ALL THAT.
12:29:49PM >> SURE.
12:29:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU SAID THAT THE GMP IS UNDER ESTIMATE.
WHAT IS IT?
12:29:55PM >> THE CONSTRUCTION VALUE OF THE FACILITY, AGAIN, YOU HAVE
TO THINK ABOUT HARD COSTS AND SOFT COSTS FOR TOTAL PROJECT
BUDGET, LITTLE MORE THAN $16.6 MILLION.
12:30:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
16.6?
12:30:09PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
12:30:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
12:30:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
WELL, THAT WAS QUICK AND EASY.
LIKE RIPPING OFF A BAND-AID.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
WE APPRECIATE IT.
12:30:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP:
YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
CONTRACTOR?
12:30:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GUESS NOT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
WE FINISHED.
IT IS 12:30.
ONE HOUR.
1:30 BACK FROM LUNCH.
IT SHOULD BE A QUICK AFTERNOON.
I'M SORRY.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT.
WE ARE AT LUNCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:39:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL BACK TO ORDER.
SULING, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE?
1:39:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:39:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:39:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:39:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
1:39:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
1:39:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
1:39:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:39:47PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:39:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAD MADE A MOTION PRIOR TO BREAKING FOR LUNCH THAT WE
WOULD RESUME DISCUSSIONS OF ITEM NUMBER 53 AFTER LUNCH.
ITEM NUMBER 53, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO YOUR
PRESENTATION?
1:40:05PM >> DEPUTY CHIEF PATRICK MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE ONLY THING, COUNCIL, THAT I WOULD ASK, I KNOW THIS IS
THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE.
OUR GOAL IS TO PROTECT STUDENTS AND MAKE OUR SCHOOL ZONES
SAFER.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND
READING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
ANSWER THOSE.
IF THIS GETS CONTINUED AND PUSHED ALONG, ANY MOMENT THAT
GETS CONTINUED MEANS THAT THOSE ARE EXTRA DAYS WHERE WE
DON'T HAVE THESE CAMERAS IN OUR SCHOOL ZONES NO MATTER WHAT
THE SCHOOL ZONES ARE.
AGAIN, I WOULD ASK THAT WE PASS THIS AMENDMENT TO THE
ORDINANCE AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, WE
WILL DO THAT FOR YOU BEFORE THE SECOND READING.
1:40:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
1:40:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU.
I'M PREPARED, IF I MAY, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR,
OBVIOUSLY AFTER DISCUSSION AND SO FORTH, I WOULD ASK FOR
CONSENT TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS ORDINANCE AND PASS IT
AGAIN.
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW THAT
ESSENTIALLY TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF THIS
ORDINANCE.
AND I DON'T THINK THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF THE ORDINANCE
SHOULD PRECLUDE THE REASONABLE USE AND PROPER USE OF THIS
ORDINANCE ON SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF
COMMUNITIES ON ISSUES OF SAFETY FOR CHILDREN.
I'LL BE PREPARED TO DO THAT IF I MAY.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION WHENEVER THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE.
1:41:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:41:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN
VIERA, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THESE FLOCK CAMERAS HAVE
BEEN USED FOR NOT THEIR PURPOSE.
THAT'S THE CONCERN.
THE CONCERN HERE ISN'T SCHOOL SAFETY, LIKE, WE ALL BELIEVE
IN SCHOOL SAFETY, BUT OVER LUNCH BREAK, I FOUND THE ORIGINAL
RFP THAT WAS PUT OUT IN MAY OF 2024, WHERE VERRA MOBILITY
WON THAT.
THAT CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T WORK
OUT.
BUT THE THING IS, RED SPEED WAS NOT THE SECOND HIGHEST
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.
IT WAS THE THIRD.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T GO WITH THE SECOND RESPONSIBLE
BIDDER.
WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT?
I UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T THINK EYE ROLLING IS APPROPRIATE
HERE.
THAT WASN'T OKAY.
BUT ALSO, THESE ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED.
WHY DIDN'T YOU GO WITH NOVOA GLOBAL INCORPORATED INSTEAD?
GENERALLY IF THE FIRST RFP BIDDER DOESN'T WORK, YOU GO TO
THE SECOND ONE.
1:42:39PM >> MIKE SCHMID, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
WHEN WE REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC FIRST TIME AROUND, THE
PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN WHEN GOING WITH VERRA, A LOT OF
PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE BILL SPONSOR OF THE LAW APPROACHED AND
SAID THEY WISHED THE COUNTY AND CITY WERE UNIFORM AND HAD
THE SAME COMPANY BEING UTILIZED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY
TO HELP MAKE SURE THERE WAS NOT CONFUSION.
AND ONCE THE CONTRACT FOR VERRA HAD TO GET TERMINATED
BECAUSE OF ISSUES THAT BETWEEN US AND THE VENDOR THAT JUST
COULDN'T GET SOLVED, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE BEST AND MOST
EFFECTIVE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WAS RED SPEED BECAUSE, ONE, IT
WOULD PROVIDE CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
TWO, IT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY MOVING
FORWARD IN A QUICK AND TIMELY FASHION.
RED SPEED HAD BEEN A VENDOR THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN OPERATING
IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND INCLUDING THE COUNTY AT THAT
POINT SUCCESSFULLY.
SO WE FELT THAT RED SPEED OFFERED, THEY -- PIGGYBACK
AGREEMENT AND WE COULD PIGGYBACK OFF THE CONTRACT.
WE FELT THAT THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE AT THE TIME.
1:43:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
BUT CHIEF BENNETT, JUST CURIOUSLY, HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE AN
RFP THAT IF THE FIRST PERSON DOESN'T WORK OUT, THAT WE
LEAPFROG TO THE THIRD?
1:44:03PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT IN THAT CONTEXT, COUNCILWOMAN.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN THIS
CONTRACT WAS PULLED BACK, IT WAS FOR A GAP BETWEEN WHAT OUR
EXPECTATIONS WERE AS OPPOSED TO THE RFP BEING IMPLEMENTED
WITH NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE FOR WHATEVER THE
PURPOSE WAS IN THE PURCHASING.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND, TOO, FROM DOING THIS IN THE PAST THAT
THERE IS A CONTINUITY EFFECT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FIT INTO THE EQUATION.
BUT THE CONTINUITY BETWEEN CITY AND COUNTY FOR THE PUBLIC
HAS A VALUE PROPOSITION TO IT PLUS TIMING.
IF THEY TRY TO GET IT IN FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR, THAT COULD BE
ONE OF THE REASONS.
I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE.
GO FROM ONE TO THREE IN A LEAPFROG, I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH AND
GIVE YOU A HARD DATA ANSWER.
1:44:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S MY CURIOSITY.
HERE IT SAYS, YES, WE WANT TO INTEGRATE WITH HILLSBOROUGH.
THE PROBLEM IS, THE INTEGRATION WITH HILLSBOROUGH, I WENT
BACK AND READ THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RFP, AND ALL IT DOES
IS TALK ABOUT HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH FLOCK.
IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT INTEGRATES WITH FLOCK.
AGAIN, IS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, ALL WE'VE HEARD IS THAT
FLOCK IS INTEGRATING WITH I.C.E.
AND WE CAN SAY WE DON'T WANT IT ALL WE WANT, BUT CLEARLY
THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE GOOD AT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE KNOWN FOR.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR CITIZENS,
THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE WITH.
1:45:31PM >> SURE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK ONE OTHER POINT WITH THE
TIMING OF THE RFP, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT TO RFP
AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HAD ELAPSED.
I DON'T THINK WE COULD A YEAR LATER MOVE ON TO THE SECOND
BIDDER.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH FLOCK, IF IT'S A CONCERN, I KNOW WE
CAN GET AN AFFIDAVIT FROM RED SPEED THAT THEY WILL NOT SEND
ANY OF OUR DATA TO FLOCK.
THEY WILL NOT INTEGRATE WITH FLOCK IN ANY WAY, SPECIFICALLY
WITH OUR CONTRACT, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE
ANYBODY ON COUNCIL FEEL BETTER.
1:46:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT
ISSUES.
MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS CAMERA ENFORCEMENT AS GENERAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE ANTICIPATED FROM THIS
PARTICULAR CONTRACT, IF WE WERE GENERATING THAT REVENUE, WE
COULD AFFORD TO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS IN CARS OUT THERE DOING
-- WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE OFFICERS OUT THERE DOING THIS TYPE
OF ENFORCEMENT.
SO THAT'S PART OF -- I DON'T GET WHY WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON
CAMERAS INSTEAD OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
AND I HAVE TO EXPECT THAT BIG OL' POLICE CAR SITTING THERE
AS WE KNOW, BECAUSE THERE IS A STRATEGY FROM POLICE PARKING
CARS PLACES TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.
IN GENERAL, THAT'S PART OF OUR STRATEGY, WHY ARE WE
SPLITTING REVENUE WITH A VENDOR AND NOT USING OUR OWN POLICE
FORCE TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS?
REALLY HONESTLY PRIVATIZING ENFORCEMENT ACTION TO CAMERAS
THAT YOU CAN'T CROSS-EXAMINE IS JUST A SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR
ME.
GOSH, I JUST INSTITUTIONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
I SEE CHIEF BENNETT WANTS TO DISCUSS SOMETHING.
1:47:18PM >> JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
NOT TO GUIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT SOME POINTS OUT FROM
DOING THIS BEFORE, SO CURRENTLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
HANDLES ABOUT HALF A MILLION CALLS A YEAR.
A LOT OF THESE THINGS WOULD BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.
THE SCHOOL WOULD COMPLAIN, THE PUBLIC WOULD COMPLAIN, AND
THEN THEY WOULD DO THEIR ENFORCEMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR CURRENT DEPLOYMENTS BUT THAT'S
TYPICALLY HOW IT WOULD BE A REACTIVE KIND OF STATE.
ONE THING WITH THE CAMERAS AS A CONSIDERATION, IT'S NOT A
MOVING VIOLATION.
THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT DRIVE TO SCHOOL AND, OF COURSE, WE
KNOW THE CURVE ON STUDENT DRIVING, AND THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS
AS A PARENT, I'D RATHER GET A HUNDRED DOLLAR NONMOVING
VIOLATION TO TEACH MY CHILD NOT TO SPEED AS OPPOSED TO A
MOVING VIOLATION FROM SOMETHING ELSE.
PLUS THE WARNING PERIOD HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING REDUCES RIGHT
OUT OF THE GATE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE THEM THERE.
THEY KNOW IT'S THERE.
MOST DRIVERS DRIVE SCHOOL ZONES EVERY DAY BY HABIT.
EITHER DROPPING STUDENTS OFF OR THAT'S THEIR ROUTE.
THE LEARNING CURVE ON THIS WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
I THINK IN OTHER TYPES OF ENFORCEMENT.
IT'S JUST THAT TRADE-OFF OF TIME AND ENERGY, AND THEN USING
THE RESOURCES TO IMPROVE IT FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF
VIEW.
THOSE ARE JUST THINGS TO CONSIDER FROM MY EXPERIENCE.
1:48:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF I GET TO A YES ON THIS PARTICULAR READ,
THE ONLY THING I'LL GET TO YES IS KNOWING I CAN GET TO A NO
AT THE SECOND ONE AND ALSO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE
CANCELLATION POLICY IN IT.
IF -- AND YOU'RE TELLING ME 100% FACT THAT WITHOUT CAUSE --
SO IF HE WE FIND THERE IS A PROBLEMATIC -- THERE ARE
PROBLEMATIC ISSUES, OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE CAN REVOKE THIS
CONTRACT.
1:48:58PM >> YES, SIR.
CAN I SHOW YOU THE COPY OF THE PAGE -- I CAN SHOW YOU THE
COPY OF THE PAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE TERMINATION, IF YOU
WISH.
ITEM 27B TERMINATION WITHOUT CAUSE, WE'RE PIGGYBACKING.
IT SAYS THE SHERIFF, SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE
AGREEMENT WITHOUT CAUSE BY PROVIDER THE CONTRACTOR WITH
30-DAY CALENDAR NOTICE.
WE HAVE A TERMINATION ABOVE IT BY MUTUAL AGREEMENT AND THEN
WITHOUT CAUSE AND FOR CAUSE.
BUT WE COULD EXERCISE IT WITHOUT CAUSE.
1:49:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
1:49:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE QUESTION IS THEN WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO ACT ON THAT?
AND I WOULD SAY THAT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL CAN DIRECT THE MAYOR TO RESCIND
A CONTRACT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN RESEARCH THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN IT, SHE REPRESENTS
THE CITY.
1:50:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU TALKED A FEW TIMES ABOUT THE TERMINATION
CLAUSE, BUT IS THERE A PENALTY, LET'S SAY IN SEPTEMBER THEY
PUT ALL 36 OF THESE IN PLACE, AND A MONTH LATER WE DECIDE TO
CANCEL, DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME FEES TO MOVE THEM?
1:50:30PM >> I KNOW THE LAST CONTRACT WITH VERRA HAD SOME LANGUAGE
SIMILAR TO THAT.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR THAT THIS ONE HAS THAT LANGUAGE BUT I WILL
RESEARCH THAT NOW.
1:50:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE CONTRACT WAS APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO,
THE ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO THIS IS
ADDING LOCATIONS OUTSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, SO EXPANSION.
THEY ARE NOT ALL IN EAST TAMPA WHICH WAS ONE OF THE
CONCERNS.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CONTRACT AND THE ORDINANCE WERE
ALREADY APPROVED.
IF WE DO NOTHING, THEY'LL END UP WITH FEWER.
THE ADMINISTRATION, AS MARTY WAS SAYING, THE ADMINISTRATION
ALREADY HAS THE AUTHORITY FROM US TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT
A SMALLER NUMBER OF THESE, MOSTLY IN EAST TAMPA.
WE MAY BE GETTING A FEW MORE OF THEM BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO
TAKE IT OUT OF EAST TAMPA.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS HAVE ANOTHER
CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL THE THINGS WE WANT IN AND THEN EDIT
THE ORDINANCE ALL AT ONCE AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
OTHERWISE, IF I HAVE A CHOICE OF HAVING THEM -- IF THE
ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO DEPLOY THEM ALL IN EAST TAMPA OR
SPREAD THEM OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, I WOULD VOTE TO HAVE IT
SPREAD OUT INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING IN EAST TAMPA.
IF WE COULD ROLL BACK TIME, WE MIGHT HAVE ALL VOTED
DIFFERENTLY.
WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN'T PROBABLY UNDO THE MAYOR'S CONTRACT BUT WE COULD
CHANGE THE ORDINANCE AND THEN THE CONTRACT WOULD HAVE TO
ADHERE TO IT.
1:52:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, I HAVE NOT
SEEN THE CONTRACT BUT THE QUESTION IS, HOW IS IT RENEWED?
DOES THAT HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL?
AND IF THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACT AND IT
IS A PIGGYBACK CONTRACT AND IT IS A HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
ISSUE, THEN MAYBE THIS COUNCIL CAN COMMUNICATE WITH
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THEIR CONCERNS WITH THIS CONTRACT SO
THAT CONTRACT CAN BE AMENDED WHEN IT COMES UP FOR RENEWAL IF
THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
1:52:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE KEEP
REPEATING THIS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PAST CONTRACT WITH
THE CAMERA LOCATIONS.
ARE WE ACTUALLY REDUCING, TAKING FROM SOME SCHOOLS AND
MOVING TO OTHERS OR ARE WE JUST EXPANDING?
1:52:48PM >> WE ARE REMOVING AS WELL.
1:52:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU GET THE MAP OF THE OLD CAMERA
LOCATIONS?
1:52:55PM >> NO, SIR.
BUT THERE ARE SIX SCHOOLS BEING REMOVED AND SIX SCHOOLS ARE
REMAINING.
1:53:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THIS SURVIVES AND COME BACK, I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO.
JUST FYI.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:53:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IN FACT, DURING LUNCH, I DIDN'T GET THE CALL.
AIDE GOT THE CALL FROM A CROSSING GUARD ON THE CORNER OF
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD AND MacDILL.
HE SAID PLEASE BRING BACK THE CAMERAS.
THE SPEEDING HAS GONE WAY FAR ABOVE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE,
BEFORE THE CAMERAS TAKEN OUT.
THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD HER.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
1:53:30PM >> WHEN DID WE HAVE CAMERAS?
1:53:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE OTHER THING WAS THE OTHER COMPANY.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS -- SO THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE
QUESTION THAT MR. SHELBY ASKED THAT IS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION.
WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO RENEW THE CONTRACT?
IS THIS A CONTRACT THAT COMES BACK TO US FOR RENEWAL?
BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT DO OR IS THIS A CONTRACT
THAT IS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED?
AND THAT'S WHAT THE ANSWER IS THAT I NEED BEFORE I CAN VOTE
ON THIS.
1:54:04PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE UNDER THE $200,000 THRESHOLD THAT'S
IN OUR CITY CODE.
SO THE RENEWAL WOULD NOT COME BACK IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU.
1:54:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:54:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
MAY WE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS?
ANY OBJECTION IF I MAKE THE MOTION AND SEE WHERE IT GOES?
1:54:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE A MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
YOU CAN MAKE ANY MOTION YOU LIKE.
1:54:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
IF I MAY COUNCIL, AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYTHING
ELSE.
IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO READ, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER
14 SECTION 14-56, SUBSECTION F, DESIGNATION OF SCHOOL ZONES
BY STRIKING AND ADDING SITE LOCATION FOR INSTALLATION AND
OPERATION OF SCHOOL ZONE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS WITHIN
THE CITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:54:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:55:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:55:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT FIRST?
1:55:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO VOTE YES, I VOTED AGAINST THE
CONTRACT WITH RED SPEED OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
I'LL VOTE YES JUST BECAUSE I WANT IT SPREAD OUT INSTEAD OF
ALL IN EAST TAMPA.
BUT I'M OPEN TO OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO TO MODIFY THIS
OUTSIDE OF IT.
1:55:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
1:55:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:55:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
1:55:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
1:55:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
1:55:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M ALSO GOING TO VOTE YES JUST TO MOVE THEM
AROUND BUT I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION AFTER THIS.
1:55:37PM >>THE CLERK:
YOUNG?
1:55:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ONLY BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR STUDENTS
ARE SAFE, BUT I NEED YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A
SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THIS AND I MEANT WHAT I SAID ABOUT AS A
CITY WE NEED TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE OF THINKING ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP OUR CHILDREN SAFE BECAUSE WE DON'T
ALWAYS HAVE TO DIVERT JUST STRAIGHT TO CAMERAS.
BUT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE AND I
AGREE THAT WE SHOULD SPREAD IT AMONGST THE CITY BUT WE NEED
TO BE MORE INNOVATIVE AND THINK OF OTHER WAYS.
YES.
1:56:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR ISSUES THAT I ALREADY STATED AND
CONCURRENCE WITH COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, I VOTE NO.
1:56:20PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON JULY 16, 2026 AT
10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
1:56:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DURING THE TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING, FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO BE LISTENING TO THE
PUBLIC CLEARLY ON THIS.
IF I HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THEY DON'T WANT THIS, MY VOTE WILL
CHANGE.
BUT ALSO, I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
AFTER WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, WHAT THEY ARE WILLING
TO DO TO END THIS CONTRACT EARLY AND ENTER WITH A COMPANY
THAT IS NOT FLOCK SUPPORTED.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
TPD TO COME BACK AND FIND OUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO
FIND ANY OTHER PURVEYOR OF THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES NOT
WORK WITH FLOCK.
AND I WANT THAT TO COME BACK WHENEVER THE SECOND READING IS
COMING BACK.
JULY 16.
1:57:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:57:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT I HEARD EARLIER,
THIS COMPANY WAS WILLING TO -- THAT THEY CANNOT GIVE ANY
TAPE OR ANYTHING TO I.C.E. OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AFFIDAVIT.
1:58:04PM >> MESSMER, TAMPA POLICE.
THE COMPANY IS WILLING TO ENTER INTO AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING
THEY WILL NOT SHARE OUR DATA.
1:58:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CAN YOU PLEASE SEND IT TO THE COMPANY?
1:58:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THAT A MOTION?
I'LL SECOND IT.
1:58:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
DID EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION?
1:58:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
RESTATE IT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
1:58:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I FORGOT WHAT I SAID.
1:58:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S FOR RED SPEED TO CREATE AN AFFIDAVIT
ATTACHED TO THIS CONTRACT SAYING THEY WILL NOT SHARE ANY
INFORMATION WITH FLOCK, DURING THE LENGTH OF WHATEVER THE
CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY SORT OF CONTINUATIONS THAT MAY
HAPPEN.
1:58:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S BE CLEAR HAVING STAFF TO OBTAIN THE
AFFIDAVIT FROM RED SPEED.
1:58:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:58:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
1:59:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, BECAUSE I WANTED TO
MAKE INQUIRIES DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPANY ON THIS ISSUE.
TO ME, THESE TWO MOTIONS COME TOGETHER TO SAY WHAT DO THEY
DO?
WHAT IS THE POLICY?
WHAT ARE THEY WILLING TO DO AND SO FORTH WHICH I'M TOTALLY
GOOD WITH AND I'M SURE WE'LL GET A GOOD RESPONSE.
THANK YOU.
WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
1:59:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:59:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHILE WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND TALKING
ABOUT THIS ISSUE, CAN I QUICKLY MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT 59,
MAKE A MOTION AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF 59?
1:59:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING ON THIS FIRST?
1:59:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT I WANT TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY
ARE ESTIMATING IN THE FIRST YEAR THAT THERE WOULD BE
$14.7 MILLION IN REVENUES NET OF 4.7 MILLION.
1:59:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S MOVE PAST 53.
WE ALREADY PASSED IT.
WE'RE DONE.
1:59:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION.
2:00:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT'S ALL RELATED BECAUSE ONE OF THE CONCERNS
ALSO IS BY THE COMMUNITY IS THIS IS A CASH GRAB.
MAYOR SAID ON TV YESTERDAY IT IS NOT A CASH GRAB.
THE LEGISLATION, ENABLING LEGISLATION SAYS THAT THE $10
MILLION NET THAT THE CITY IS PROJECTING WOULD GET IN THE
FIRST YEAR CAN BE USED FOR SCHOOL SAFETY OR PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IT BE NARROWLY USED FOR
SCHOOL SAFETY AND ASK THE -- EMILY SAYS EXPERTS LIKE ADAM IN
THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NEED TO BE
DONE AROUND SCHOOLS.
LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG WAS SAYING, WE CAN PUT SOLUTIONS,
WITH THIS MONEY WE CAN PUT SOLUTIONS AT OTHER SCHOOLS THAT
WARN PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN THAT AREN'T JUST PUNITIVE BECAUSE
THE IDEA -- SHOULD I READ THE MOTION REAL FAST?
2:00:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS A SECOND.
NOW IT'S OPEN FOR CONVERSATION.
2:01:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO MAKE -- HE HASN'T READ THE
MOTION YET.
HE HASN'T READ THE MOTION.
2:01:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT.
2:01:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION,
WOULD YOU READ THE MOTION?
2:01:18PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT EMILY HINSDALE HELPED
ME WITH.
MOTION TO ASK LEGAL AND MOBILITY TO RETURN -- I PICKED
AUGUST 6, WE CAN PICK SOMETHING SOONER IF THEY CAN -- WITH A
DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT SCHOOL ZONE CAMERA
PENALTY FUNDS BE USED SOLELY FOR MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN
SCHOOL ZONES TO DETER SPEEDING.
2:01:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
WAS IT MIRANDA?
MIRANDA.
2:01:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS IS GOING BACK TO
THE IDEA THAT SIGNS AREN'T ALWAYS THE BEST AND THAT INSTEAD
OF SIGNS, WE WORK LIKE MS. HINSDALE TALKED ABOUT NARROWING
THE ROADS, PROVIDING BETTER CROSSWALKS THAT WOULD BE MY
PREFERENCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF, BUT THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT
SIGNS AREN'T THE BEST USE OF THAT MONEY.
2:02:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
EMILY TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I COULD PUT A
LIST IN HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER TO LET THE STAFF DO
IT.
KIND OF ROAD NARROWING AROUND THERE, ELEVATED CROSSWALKS,
TRIANGLE SIGNS.
THE BIGGER SIGNS BY THEMSELVES HAVE ABOUT A 20% IMPACT.
THAT'S ABOUT HALF AS MUCH AS THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS DO
WITHOUT PEOPLE HAVING TO PAY FINES.
REMEMBER, THE POINT IS IF WE'RE COLLECTING $14.7 MILLION IN
FINES, THAT MEANS HOWEVER THAT IS, HUNDRED -- ANYWAY, IF YOU
DIVIDE THAT BY A HUNDRED, 147,000 WHATEVER PEOPLE ARE
DRIVING THROUGH SCHOOL ZONES PUTTING LIVES IN DANGER.
WHAT WE NEED IS THE BETTER PACKAGE ALL AROUND THESE SCHOOL
ZONES.
EMILY SAYS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS THE EXPERTISE ON HOW TO
DO IT.
ALL THIS IS SAYING IS THAT WE'D LIKE AN ORDINANCE OR
MODIFICATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE ANY PROCEEDS GO
THERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER NEEDS IN PUBLIC SAFETY BUT THIS
SPECIFICALLY, SINCE IT IS BEING TAKEN FROM SCHOOL ZONES IT
SHOULD BE USED TO HELP PROTECT KIDS AND FAMILIES IN SCHOOL
ZONES.
2:03:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALSO, TALKING ABOUT THIS, AAA HAS A ROBUST
SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAM, MULTILAYERED.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF SHOULD BE WORKING
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
IT'S FAIRLY RENOWN AND ROBUST.
THEY ARE EMBEDDED IN MANY SCHOOLS.
I THINK THEY COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH AAA AS WELL, A
NONPROFIT.
2:03:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID THIS EARLIER, JUST THE EDUCATION
CAMPAIGN DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S DONE.
GAINESVILLE HAS DONE THIS SPECIFICALLY.
THE RIGHT EDUCATION CAMPAIGN CAN REDUCE SPEEDING BY 10 OR 15
PERCENT.
THEY ARE ALREADY ON THEIR WAY TO DOING THAT.
2:04:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A DIFFERENT CULTURE OF A CITY.
THAT CITY OVERALL IS EDUCATION FOCUSED BECAUSE OF THE
UNIVERSITY.
THEY, BY AND LARGE, THEY APPROVE EVERY SINGLE TAX INCREASE
IN THAT COUNTY BECAUSE OF SCHOOLS BY INSANE, 80% MARGINS.
2:04:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUDIES, ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS.
INSTEAD OF THE CAMERAS BY THEMSELVES ONLY GET MAX PROBABLY
TO 46%, WE NEED TO GET TO A HUNDRED.
WE WANT TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
PREVENT LIVES FROM DANGER.
2:04:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
HEARING NONE?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:04:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I INTEND TO SUPPORT THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE
SURE.
YOUR MOTION INTENDS TO HAVE REVENUE GO TO ALL SCHOOL ZONES
AND NOT JUST THOSE SPECIFIC ONES FROM WHERE THE REVENUE WAS
COLLECTED, CORRECT?
2:05:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM.
AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD DO COORDINATION WITH AAA ON THIS AS
WELL.
2:05:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
2:05:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALL OF US CAN TALK TO ADAM AND STAFF.
2:05:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:05:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY FIRST QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE A DATE ON
THE MOTION FOR THE AFFIDAVIT?
IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO ADD -- I'D LIKE TO AMEND COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA'S MOTION TO ADD IT TO BE JULY 18 TO GO ALONG WITH.
2:05:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT.
2:05:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
2:05:43PM >> SECOND.
2:05:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE SECONDARY -- HIS MOTION WAS TO
BRING AN AFFIDAVIT BACK.
2:05:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE STAFF TO GET THE AFFIDAVIT.
THEN MAKE IT AS A SECONDARY MOTION, NOT AN AMENDMENT.
2:05:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECONDARY MOTION IS HAVE IT COME BACK ON JULY
18, THE AFFIDAVIT.
-- OH, 16th.
I THINK WE SAID THE OTHER DATE WRONG, TOO.
JULY 16.
2:06:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:06:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY SECONDARY MOTION IS TO ASK STAFF BY JULY
16 TO COME BACK WITH ANY OTHER CONTRACTS WITH DIFFERENT
VENDORS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK ON OTHER THAN RED
SPEED.
2:06:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:06:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, JULY 16.
AGAIN, IF FOLKS WANT TO COME TO ME AND TALK ABOUT IT BEHIND
-- BEFOREHAND, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT.
2:06:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE
IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:06:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE MORE THING THAT GOES WITH SPEED
AND THEN DONE WITH SPEED.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE AFTER I STARTED DOING
RIDE-ALONGS WITH TPD, IT MADE ME REALIZE, A, THE WHITE STOP
BAR IS A BIG DEAL.
GOT TO STOP THERE.
IF YOU DON'T STOP THERE, THEY'LL PULL YOU OVER.
THEN WHEN I STARTED DOING THAT, I STARTED REALIZING THAT I'M
PART OF THE PROBLEM.
IF ANYBODY UP HERE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE COMPLAINS ABOUT
SPEEDING, YOU HAVE TO STOP AND THINK, AM I SPEEDING?
THE ANSWER TO ALL OF US, 95% OF US, THE ANSWER IS YES.
I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED REALLY HARD TO ACTUALLY GO THE SPEED
LIMIT.
SO I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU TO DO THAT.
2:07:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT A MOTION?
2:07:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
JUST A CHALLENGE.
BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DO.
IT'S VERY HARD.
2:07:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN MY HOUSEHOLD WE HAVE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT
THE WHITE BARS.
I INSIST ON THE WHITE BARS AND WE HAVE ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE
WHITE BARS.
IF YOU ARE LISTENING AT MY HOUSE AT 2:08 P.M., LISTEN TO
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:07:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN REGARDS TO THE SPEEDING AND I
MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, THROUGH MY INSURANCE COMPANY, THERE
IS A PROGRAM CALLED DRIVE SAFE.
THERE IS A TRANSPONDER IN THE CAR THAT STICKS TO THE
WINDSHIELD, MONITORS HARD BRAKING, ACCELERATION, EVERYTHING.
ALSO PICKING UP YOUR PHONE AND LOOKING AT IT AND WHATNOT.
IT MADE ME A BETTER DRIVER AND DISCOUNT ON INSURANCE.
I THINK IT SAVES ME FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, THREE HUNDRED
DOLLARS, FOUR HUNDRED.
DEPENDS, IT MONITORS EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE.
I ACCEPT YOUR CHALLENGE, BUT I ALSO HAVE THE SOFTWARE.
IT SAVES MONEY, BUT --
2:08:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT AIN'T HAPPENING.
JUST TO CLEAN THIS UP, ITEM NUMBER 19 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
WAS PULLED.
53 HAS A NAIL IN IT.
WE SAVED THIS FOR YOU.
2:08:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
SORRY I GOT PULLED OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
ON 19, I'VE KNOWN MORRIS MASSEY FOR 35 YEARS.
I THINK HE'S GREAT.
THINK HE IS A FANTASTIC ATTORNEY.
NOTHING AGAINST HIM.
BUT THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE RAYS HAS HIT A HARD SHIFT NOW.
IT'S TIME FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO BRING CITY COUNCIL IN.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE GOING TO USE THE CRA GOING
FORWARD OR DO SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BRING CITY COUNCIL AND -- IF
YOU COUNT THE FOUR, FINE, BUT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE A PART
OF IT.
ON THE CITY SIDE, IF THE CHARTER DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, IT'S
JUST ADVOCACY 101 TO GET CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED.
IF THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, A BIG PART OF IT IS
GOING TO BE BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T INCLUDE CITY
COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY ON THE CRA SIDE WHICH WAS PROBABLY --
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE US.
I'M REGULARLY TALKING TO THE RAYS AND REGULARLY TALKING TO
THE COUNTY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING BRIEFED.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING BRIEFED.
GETTING BRIEFED IS GETTING TOLD WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO OR
SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DO, HAVING SOMEBODY ASK YOUR OPINION IS
DIFFERENT.
MY THING, INSTEAD OF VOTING ON THAT WHICH MEANS THE
ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO BE IN CONTROL, BY THE WAY, AS I
COULD TELL IN THE CONTRACT, IT DOESN'T ADDRESS CRA AT ALL,
SHOULDN'T BE A PRESUMPTION THAT HE'S GOING TO NEGOTIATE ON
BEHALF OF THE CRA WITHOUT CRA'S APPROVAL.
BUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS GET THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME GIVE
US AN UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING OR CRA MEETING AND TELL US
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE NEGOTIATION.
THIS DEAL IS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY.
THE COUNTY HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT.
LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.
THE CITY NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND INCLUDE CITY COUNCIL
GOING FORWARD.
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AS THIS IS.
MY PREFERENCE IS FOR US TO DELAY THIS AND HAVE THE CITY
ADMINISTRATION COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT HOW THEY'LL INCLUDE
CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA AND BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THEY
ARE GOING TO GO AFTER THIS AGREEMENT IN THE FUTURE.
2:10:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:10:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE CITY KEEPING US
UPDATED.
SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATE PERIODICALLY, ONCE A WEEK IF THERE'S
CONVERSATION.
IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF CONVERSATION, WIRE, TEXT, WHATEVER, I
WAS HERE JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, WHENEVER, WHEN I ASKED IS THIS
YOUR FINAL OFFER, CAN YOU DO BETTER?
SAID, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS AT.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROJECT IS AT.
I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF US DOES.
I DON'T.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF US SIX.
I'M NOT AGAINST CONVERSATION.
I SHOULD BE AT LEAST INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION.
2:11:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRING US BACK TO WHAT ITEM 19 IS.
ITEM 19 IS NOT ABOUT THE RAYS.
IT'S ABOUT HAVING A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE AVAILABLE TO NEGOTIATE
WITH THE CITY.
YOU COULD STRIKE THROUGH THE TAMPA BAY RAYS AND STADIUM AND
PUT ANYTHING IN THERE.
CITIES, GOVERNMENTS, PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS ROUTINELY WANT
SOMEONE TO -- BRING PEOPLE BACK IN AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS
UNDER CONTRACT.
MY ADULT LIFE, I'VE LIVED A LONG TIME AND INVOLVED IN MANY
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
THIS IS COMMON PRACTICE.
THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, NUMBER 19, IS STRICTLY ABOUT USING
SOMEONE WHO HAS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE THAT PUT THEIR TIME
IN WITH THE CITY, ELECTED FOR WHATEVER REASON TO DEPART THE
CITY, BUT WE STILL HAVE A NEED FOR THAT SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTISE, AND IT GIVES THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING
THEM BACK AS A CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
THAT'S ALL 19 IS.
UNLESS STAFF HAS ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
DID I SURMISE THAT CORRECTLY?
2:12:46PM >> THANK YOU.
CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
YES.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, MR. MASSEY HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A
LONG TIME.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE FILLING THE POSITION THAT HE RETIRED
FROM.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO
BENEFIT FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, EXPERTISE, AND KNOWLEDGE.
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RAYS, IT'S NOT
THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS WOULD BE DELEGATED TO MR. MASSEY, HE
WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE TO
THE CITY AND TO ASSIST AS LEGAL ISSUES COME UP, IF THAT
HELPS.
2:13:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR MR.
BENNETT.
WE'RE IN THE -- ADMINISTRATION THAT WE'VE DONE TERM LIMITS.
NOT UNCOMMON FOR EMPLOYEES TO DEPART IN THE LAST YEAR AND WE
DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BACKFILL POSITIONS, EVEN DIFFICULT
TO BACKFILL POSITIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION
THAT MAY WANT TO MOVE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
THIS IS KIND OF A WIN-WIN UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IS IT
NOT?
2:13:45PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I THINK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SUMMED IT UP WELL.
IN THIS TRANSITIONAL SPACE, MORRIS, I WOULD WALK IN HIS
OFFICE AND THE PAPERS WERE STACKED UP EVERYWHERE.
HE'S GOT HIS HANDS IN SO MUCH AND HIS EXPERTISE AND GUIDANCE
THROUGH THESE THINGS.
IT'S A VERY PRO-CITY EFFORT.
I JUST THINK IT IS A GOOD MANEUVER TO GET THROUGH THE
TRANSITION SPACE AND HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING UP
ALL THE GUARDRAILS EVEN ON THAT ONE SPECIFIC TOPIC.
2:14:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU SET ASIDE THAT IT IS MORRIS, WHO WE
ALL LOVE, WE'RE DECIDING TO SPEND $200,000 POTENTIALLY TO
FURTHER NEGOTIATE THE RAYS CONTRACT.
IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED IN SECRET FOR YEARS, NOT WITH THIS
OWNER BUT A NEW OWNER.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE PUT THIS ON HOLD FOR A COUPLE OF
WEEKS.
LET THE ADMINISTRATION COME BACK AND TELL US HOLISTICALLY
WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO AND HOW THEY ARE GOING TO
INCLUDE US IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE NEGOTIATION AND THEN WHAT
ROLE MORRIS PLAYS AND WE CAN APPROVE IT THEN.
IF WE APPROVE THIS 200,000 NOW, THEN WE HAND IT TO THEM
COMPLETELY.
2:14:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN --
2:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
ALONG THE SAME LINES, REASONABLY REQUIRED BY THE CITY
ATTORNEY AND SO FORTH UP TO 200,000.
I UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE MUCH LESS.
CAN'T BE ANY MORE BUT COULD BE MUCH LESS.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THERE THE WORD CRA.
NOT SPECIFICALLY SAID IN THAT WAY.
BUT OTHER MATTERS COULD BE THAT.
I WOULD BE MORE AT EASE OR THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE MORE AT
EASE, INCLUDED CRA, CERTAINLY AN EXPERT FOR MANY YEARS HERE
AND HE KNOWS ABOUT MATTERS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT.
HE DID THAT FOR MANY YEARS, WHEN HE WAS AT HILL
WARD & HENDERSON AND WHEN HE WAS HERE.
ALL THOSE THINGS FIT IN TOGETHER.
I'M LISTENING AND MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION CAN PUT CRA AND
WHATEVER LEGAL MATTERS ARE NECESSARY.
SOMEBODY HAS TO ANSWER US AT SOME POINT IN TIME WHAT'S GOING
ON.
PEOPLE ASK A QUESTION, DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY DON'T SHARE NO INFORMATION, EITHER SIDE.
2:15:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:15:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I RESTATE WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SAID AND OTHERS HAVE
SAID ABOUT MR. MASSEY, ONE OF THE AMAZING LAWYERS, PARTNER
AT HILL WARD HENDERSON BROUGHT HERE, MS. WELLS FROM
SCHUMAKER -- SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, FORMER HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
BAR ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, AMONG ANDREA ZELMAN, MANY GOOD
ATTORNEYS, DAVID HARVEY, AMONG MANY GREAT ATTORNEYS BROUGHT
ON.
OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING IN DISPUTE.
I'M VOTING OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS.
HERE ARE A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY.
NUMBER ONE, THERE IS ASSISTANCE NEEDED ON THIS AREA THAT MR.
MASSEY IS UNIQUELY FIT FOR AND SO FORTH.
LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO ISSUES WITH THE
RAYS' DEAL, I FILED A MOTION TO INTERVENE WHICH WAS GRANTED
WITH GOOD RESULTS ON THINGS THAT I CARED ABOUT WITH THE
RAYS.
HEY, LOOK, GUYS, PICK UP THE PHONE, DIAL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING
ON POLICE AND FIRE, HERE'S WHAT I WANT.
THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
SAME THING FROM HERE GOING ON THAT IF THERE IS A POLICY
ISSUE OR SOMETHING, AND I TALKED TO THE RAYS AND THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES ON CONCERNS THAT I HAVE.
VERY, VERY BIG CONCERNS THAT I'VE HAD IN THE PAST AND MAY
HAVE IN THE FUTURE AND SO FORTH.
I WOULD JUST SAY, LOOK, FILE A MOTION TO INTERVENE AND
GRANTED.
THAT'S IT.
I WILL BE VOTING FOR THIS.
2:17:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO BRING PEOPLE TO FOCUS ON WHAT
THE RESOLUTION IS.
THE RESOLUTION ISN'T ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE KEYED IN, KEYED
OUT, ALL THE OTHER SUPERFLUOUS THINGS.
THIS IS SOLELY ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY HAS ACCESS TO A
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES THAT
THE CITY IS FACING WITH.
THIS IS JUST ABOUT AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO BRING MR. MASSEY
BACK TO PROVIDE HIS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE.
ALL THE OTHER STUFF IS SUPERFLUOUS.
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD, MS. WELLS?
2:17:50PM >> AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA STATED, THIS IS NOT A CONTRACT FOR
$200,000.
THAT IS THE MAXIMUM PRICE.
AND THAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT COUNCIL HAS INCLUDED IN ALL
OTHER CONTRACTS FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
THIS IS YOUR FORM.
-- IT'S NOT FUNDED TO 200,000.
IT'S JUST THAT'S THE MAXIMUM AND WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER
TOPICS, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO LIMIT THE AREAS HE
WOULD BE ASSISTING THE CITY WITH.
THAT WOULD GIVE COUNCIL GREATER -- LESS CONCERN THAT IT WAS
JUST GOING TO BE OPEN-ENDED.
SO THE INTENT WAS, WHEN MR. MASSEY WORKED FOR THE CITY, HE
WORKED ON MORE COMPLEX REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONAL MATTERS.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FILLING THAT POSITION, TO
HAVE HIM AVAILABLE TO ASSIST AS NEEDED I THINK IS OF GREAT
BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
2:18:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:18:47PM >> THANK YOU.
2:18:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CAN I GET
SOMEBODY TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
2:18:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
2:18:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DISAGREE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CRA ATTORNEY
NOW.
THAT IS WHO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING WITH.
WHILE MORRIS HAS THAT EXPERIENCE, HE IS NOT SPEAKING.
THE CITY IS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE CRA.
2:19:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT
THIS RESOLUTION IS.
CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
2:19:26PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
2:19:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'RE BACK TO STAFF REPORTS.
WE'RE ON 60.
62.
2:19:50PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS WITH REGARDS TO ITEM 60 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A
MOTION THAT STAFF BE REQUESTED TO REPORT ON JUNE 4 AS TO
CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO
CREATE AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT APPROVED BY CITY
COUNCIL IN ADVANCE OF TRANSFERRING MONEY.
UNDER FLORIDA CONTRACT LAW, A BINDING CONTRACT REQUIRES
THREE ELEMENTS -- OFFER, ACCEPTANCE, AND CONSIDERATION.
ALONG WITH A MEETING OF THE MINDS BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
THE REQUIREMENT OF TWO DISTINCT PARTIES IS IMPLICIT.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A SINGLE MUNICIPAL CORPORATION, I.E.
SINGLE PARTY.
AND A LEGAL ENTITY UNDER CHAPTER 166 FLORIDA STATUTES.
CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE DIVISIONS OF THE CITY AND DO NOT
POSSESS A SEPARATE LEGAL EXISTENCE.
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITIES, AN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO CITY DEPARTMENTS IS LEGALLY EQUIVALENT
TO THE CITY ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ITSELF.
FLORIDA COURTS HAVE HELD THAT MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS LACK A
SEPARATE LEGAL EXISTENCE FROM THE MUNICIPALITY ITSELF.
SO THEREFORE EVEN IF AN INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT WERE
APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, THE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM STILL REMAINS.
THERE ARE NOT TWO SEPARATE LEGAL PARTIES TO THE AGREEMENT
AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL CANNOT CREATE A SECOND CONTRACT
PARTY WHERE NONE EXISTS.
ANY INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT HAS NO LEGAL EFFECT.
THAT IS ALL.
2:21:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS ON THIS?
2:21:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT IS AN INTERESTING WAY -- NOT
BLAMING YOU -- BUT THINK IT IS AN INTERESTING WAY FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION TO SHOOT IT DOWN.
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT BIG COMPANIES WILL HAVE AN
INTERDEPARTMENTAL AGREEMENT.
IF THE PARADE BUDGET, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE CREATING,
WILL -- WE'LL HAVE A FIGHT OVER THAT TO JUST LIKE THE
CONVENTION CENTER.
LAST WEEK I SAID THE ADMINISTRATION, EVERY TIME I BRING UP
THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, THEY SEND OUT A
PRESS RELEASE.
LATER IN THE DAY, THEY SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE JUSTIFYING
THE CONVENTION CENTER.
IT'S SO PETTY AND CHILDISH.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING SO EASY THAT THE WATER DEPARTMENT OR
WHATEVER DEPARTMENT, SORRY, THE PARADE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT
BE ABLE TO USE STORMWATER STAFF WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THEM JUST LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT CAN'T USE THE TREE FUND
WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT.
CALL IT INTENT OR WHATEVER, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS
MAYOR, THIS ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T WANT TRANSPARENCY IN
ANYTHING.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP KICKING THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD.
THEY'LL FIGHT EVERYTHING OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY COUNCIL IS NOT GIVE THEM THE
VOTES THEY NEED.
VOTING ON THAT JUST NOW GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO GO BACK AND
NEGOTIATE THE RAYS.
THE RAYS' DEAL WILL DIE BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE MISMANAGED BECAUSE
OF LACK OF TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE OF THIS.
SO I'LL GIVE UP ON 60.
2:23:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ITEM NUMBER 61.
2:23:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE A WHOLE LOT I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS
ONE WHICH IS ALONG THE SAME LINES.
I'LL LET THE CHIEF OF STAFF SPEAK FIRST.
2:23:18PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
ALL RIGHT.
AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
OBVIOUSLY THE PARTICULAR MOTION WAS TO BE FOCUSED -- SPEAK
TO -- HOW THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL PROTECT EMPLOYEES FROM
RETALIATION BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
PUT A LITTLE PREAMBLE, I'LL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS IN
THE DECK AND OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
TRUTHFULLY, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT THINGS THROUGH
PREVENTION, EDUCATION, AND OTHER PROCESSES, IT'S CRITICAL
THAT EVERYBODY IN THE LARGE ORGANIZATION KNOWS WHAT THESE
OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
WE ALWAYS HAVE ROOM TO GET BETTER.
WE DO HAVE AN INTEGRATED GOVERNMENT MODEL.
JUST FOR EXAMPLE WHEN I WELCOME NEW EMPLOYEES EVERY OTHER
WEEK AND TALK ABOUT THE HOLISTIC SIDE OF THE CITY AND THE
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I REMIND THOSE
EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE -- ON PAPER WE'RE EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT A
FORTUNE 1000 COMPANY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DEPARTMENTS, SO MANY DIVISIONS, 24
HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR, IT REALLY BRINGS
US DOWN INTO THE LOWER FORTUNE HUNDRED COMPANIES BECAUSE OF
OUR BREADTH OF WORK.
SO THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT MODEL IN THAT LARGE GOVERNMENT
THING BUT WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON, AGAIN, PREVENTION, IN
TAKING INVESTIGATIONS AND MAKING SURE ANY DISPOSITION GOES
THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS MODEL IN THIS SPACE.
JUST SOME BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE
INTERNALLY.
HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT HAS SIX DIVISIONS.
ONE OF THEM IS THE EMPLOYEE RELATIONS DIVISION.
WE'RE ORGANIZED UNIQUELY.
A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A SEPARATE HUMAN RELATIONS
DEPARTMENT AS OPPOSED TO BEING INTEGRATED INTO ONE.
I SAID TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST THAT NUMBER OF HUMAN RESOURCES
FOR THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT ARE LOWER THAN WHAT THE RATINGS
TYPICALLY ARE AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT INVOLVED, AND WE
ALSO HAVE CITY AUDIT.
I'LL EXPLAIN SOME OF THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
SO FROM THERE I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO THE DEFINITIONS SO
WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON THE LEGAL DEFINITION.
AND FOR THAT, I HAVE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CITY ATTORNEY,
CITY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY REBECCA JOHNS GOING TO EXPLAIN THE
DEFINITION.
2:25:51PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
RETALIATION IS OFTEN USED AS A BROAD TERM, BUT RETALIATION
IS ACTUALLY A VERY SPECIFIC CAUSE OF ACTION.
RETALIATION OCCURS WHEN AN EMPLOYER TAKES MATERIAL ADVERSE
EMPLOYMENT ACTION AGAINST AN EMPLOYEE OR AN APPLICANT AND
THAT ACTION IS TAKEN BECAUSE THAT EMPLOYEE PARTICIPATED IN
PROTECTED ACTIVITY WHICH IS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY LAWS OR
BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED PROTECTED INFORMATION UNDER THE
FLORIDA WHISTLE-BLOWER ACT.
IN ORDER TO HAVE RETALIATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARTICIPATION
IN THAT UNDERLYING CLAIM.
2:26:32PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THANK YOU, REBECCA.
SO WITH THAT, THAT LEADS US FROM THE LEGAL DEFINITION INTO
WHAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE PERSONNEL MANUAL.
AND WE'LL GET INTO THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION.
THIS IS NOT ONLY IN OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL BUT IT'S ACCESSIBLE
TO ALL 5,000 FOLKS THAT HAVE EMPLOYEE NUMBERS HERE.
OF COURSE, THE UNDERLYING ASPECTS OF THE TRAINING AND THE
DEFINITIONS ALL HAPPEN THROUGH THAT TRAINING ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE A VERY TALENTED
TRAINING DIVISION HEAD, SABRINA LOUIS, Ph.D. OUT OF A
GREAT CURRICULUM BACKGROUND.
AND SHE IS THE ONE THAT KICKS OFF THE NEW EMPLOYEE TRAINING.
POLICY ATTESTATION UPON, THIS IS A CITYWIDE COMPLIANCE
STANDARD.
THERE'S NO GETTING OUT OF THIS PROCESS FOR THE NEW
EMPLOYEES.
EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TRAINING.
SO ALL THE EMPLOYEES NOW THE NUMBER YOU'LL SEE HERE COULD BE
DIFFERENT THAN THE FTE COUNT.
FTE AND ACTUAL BODIES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
WHEN YOU SEE 5,000 AND 4900, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT.
THERE ARE ALSO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS ONE-ON-ONE TRAINING
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.
AGAIN, IN A BROAD CITY ENVIRONMENT, THERE IS SIGNIFICANT
EFFORT PUT INTO THIS SPACE RIGHT FROM THE ONSET.
THIS IS ALSO A CRITICAL PART, AS I MENTIONED, PART OF THE
PREVENTION EDUCATION TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A LAYERED
APPROACH TOWARDS IN-TAKING.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I WORKED WITH THE CITY AUDIT DEPARTMENT
TO EXPAND THEIR HOTLINE WHICH CAN ALSO BE ANONYMOUS.
THAT NUMBER IS POSTED AND ALSO EDUCATED WITH EVERY AUDIT
PROCESS.
MS. VIVIAN WALKER IS HERE WHO JUST BECAME THE AUDIT
DIRECTOR.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SHE'S HERE TO ANSWER HOW THAT
WORKS.
THOSE ARE ONE POSSIBILITY OF IN-TAKING.
OF COURSE, ANY ALLEGATIONS START OUT BY EMPLOYEE RELATIONS.
AGAIN, IT IS A LAYERED PROCESS.
SO AS A REMINDER, 75% OF OUR EMPLOYEES ARE IN A UNION.
A LOT OF UNION ADVOCACY SITS IN HERE FOR ALL SIDES OF THE
EQUATION AND, OF COURSE, THAT CAN REALLY REACH THE EMPLOYEE
RELATIONS ASPECT AS WELL.
AND THEN FROM THERE, IT GOES INTO AN INVESTIGATIVE REALM.
SUBSTANTIAL OR DISPOSITIONS, HARD CODED DISCIPLINARY
OPTIONS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THOSE REACH THAT LEVEL, THAT IT IS A
COMPLETE EXECUTIVE REVIEW, NOT JUST A SINGLE LANE OF TRAFFIC
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS ONE DEPARTMENT IS DOING ONE
THING AND ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IS DOING SOMETHING ELSE, AND
THEN WE WORK TOWARDS CONSISTENCY, CONSISTENCY IN ALL THE
PROCESS AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT AGAIN, THAT TAKES AN EFFORT.
I PUT THIS IN AS BACKGROUND BECAUSE I WANT TO BE AS
TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
IF YOU ARE A DATA PERSON AND YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THE SCALE
AND SCOPE, BUT AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE IN THE POINT IN TIME,
I CAN EITHER WALK THROUGH THIS OR YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS
ABOUT IT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT YOU SEE
FROM THE AUTHORIZED STRENGTH NUMBERS, HOW HIRING SEQUENCE
HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR REALM OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
AND SOME OF THE SEPARATION CATEGORIES THAT HAPPEN IN THE
CITY.
AGAIN, JUST MORE FOR BACKGROUND, NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
MOTION.
AND THEN SOMETHING CALLED WORKFORCE EXPOSURE WHERE YOU TAKE
THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND LOOK OVER THE TURNOVER, HOW
PEOPLE CHANGE IN POSITIONS AS WELL AS HOW MANY YEARS THEY
HAVE BEEN ON THE JOB.
FROM THERE, YOU CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT A RATIO AND THEN DO
OTHER COMPARERS TO INTERNAL, EXTERNAL TO SEE WHERE WE FIT IN
AND WHAT PROCESSES WE CAN DO BETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
PREVENTIVE AND DOING MORE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS IN THIS
SPACE.
AGAIN, IN THE END, WHICH IS WHAT I'M GOING TO GET TO, IS
THAT IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEM, IT'S HOW WE ARE
LAYERED IN A PROCESS TO TRY AND ADDRESS THIS AND MAKE SURE
THERE'S MULTIPLE AVENUES OF IN-TAKING, A COORDINATED,
CONSISTENT WAY TO INVESTIGATE, MAKE SURE THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ESCALATION, MAKE SURE THE DISPOSITIONS ARE
FAIR FOR ALL SIDES AND THEN JUST DO THE BEST WE CAN.
WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ON HOW WE CAN DO
IT BETTER.
AGAIN, IN A BIG WORKFORCE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT TAKES A LOT
OF EXPERIENCE.
OUR HUMAN RELATIONS DIRECTOR HAS OVER 26 YEARS IN THIS
SPACE.
ALL THE STAFF SEEM TO HAVE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE.
OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS VERY SUPPORTIVE.
WE'VE USED OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHEN NECESSARY ON CERTAIN CASES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF
OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO PREVENT WITHOUT
EVEN GETTING TO AN INVESTIGATION OR A DISPOSITION AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST REST ON THE PRESENTATION AND OPEN IT
UP FOR QUESTIONS.
2:31:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:31:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE IS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE IN THIS
ADMINISTRATION THAT GOES BEYOND THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE THAT
I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
AND IT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
DOESN'T AGREE TO BASIC TRANS --
AND YOU ALL SAY WE WANT FEEDBACK, BUT THEN YOU DON'T LISTEN
TO ANY OF IT.
I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH VARIOUS CITY ATTORNEYS, BUT
NOTHING SEEMS TO GET DONE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT I KNOW THAT
THIS KIND OF HOSTILE WORKPLACE RETALIATION CULTURE STARTED
AT LEAST IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
AN EXAMPLE IS TANJA VIDOVIC, FEMALE PREGNANT FIREFIGHTER WHO
FACED DISCRIMINATION.
THE MAYOR AT THE TIME PRETTY MUCH SAID SCREW YOU.
AND SHE FILED A LAWSUIT.
WON $400,000.
THEN THE CITY DECIDED TO APPEAL.
LUCKILY THEY DROPPED THAT.
THEN THERE WAS A SUIT THAT WE FOUND OUT JUST A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO, BECAUSE WE HAD TO SETTLE IT, WHERE THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION REFUSED TO GIVE FMLA COVERAGE FOR MEN FOR
FATHERS.
SO WE HAD TO PAY 300,000.
UNITED STATES JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION.
AROUND THE TIME THAT I STARTED SEVEN YEARS AGO, THERE WERE
ATTACKS DIRECTLY BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE MAYOR AND HER
STAFF AGAINST ME, JOHN DINGFELDER, ORLANDO GUDES USING CITY
RESOURCES AND MOST ATTORNEYS BELIEVE UNETHICAL, ILLEGAL WAY
TO ATTACK CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT,
COMPLAINTS ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INVOLVED WENT NOWHERE.
BY THE WAY, WHEN I HAVE SENT A COMPLAINT ABOUT SOME OF THE
MAYOR'S STAFF TO THE HR DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE
CHIEF OF STAFF RESPONDS.
AND SO HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE -- HOW IS AN EMPLOYEE,
EMPLOYEES -- OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT FACE THE SAME THING.
ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, PLUS OR MINUS FOUR ATTORNEYS QUIT,
ALLEGING DIFFERENT THINGS.
I THINK ONE OF THEM FILED A LAWSUIT.
10 OR 12 MOBILITY STAFF QUIT.
ONE OF THEM SCARLET LOPEZ FILED A LAWSUIT AND WE JUST
RECENTLY PAID A SETTLEMENT OF $350,000.
AT LEAST TWO OR THREE THAT ARE THREATENING TO FILE LAWSUITS
AGAIN.
IN ANY OF THESE, THERE WERE NO FIRINGS BY THE
ADMINISTRATION.
USUALLY IF SOMEBODY HAS A PATTERN OF SOME KIND OF PROBLEM,
THE ADMINISTRATION WILL FIRE.
SO IN TERMS OF YOUR DATA, PEOPLE ARE RESIGNING, RETIRING,
WHATEVER, ISSUES WITH THAT.
BRANDON KING SENT US AN E-MAIL THIS MORNING.
HERE IS A GUY WHO TRIED TO GET A JOB AT BUSCH GARDENS, WAS
RUN OUT OF THERE.
THEN HE TRIED TO GET A JOB IN ANOTHER CITY NEARBY, RUN OUT
OF THERE.
FINALLY HAD TO GO TO TENNESSEE, TRIED TO GET A JOB IN ONE OF
THE TOWNS IN TENNESSEE, WAS RUN OUT OF THERE BECAUSE THE
CITY STAFF FOLLOWED HIM AND TRASH TALKED HIM AND HE COULDN'T
GET A JOB.
THE BEGINNING OF HIS PROBLEMS IS WHEN HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE
POLITICAL ISSUE THAT THE MAYOR WAS TRYING TO SETTLE AGAINST
ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE OR MORE OF THE COUNCIL
MEMBERS.
RUTH KATE WHO I WON'T MENTION ANYMORE BUT JUST THAT IS OUT
THERE.
AND OTHERS.
MY POINT IS IT'S NOT JUST ONE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S ACROSS THE CITY.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE LOST SIX OR EIGHT PEOPLE IN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BY THE WAY, THE MAYOR TRIED TO BLAME IT ON US.
WENT SO FAR ON THE DAY MOST OF THEM RESIGNED TO HOLD A
MEETING OF SENIOR STAFF AND SAY, HOW DO I BLAME THIS ON CITY
COUNCIL?
AND THEN SHE ASKED THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO GO TO HENDERSON WHO
WAS THE CHAIR OF CRA TO ASK IF SHE WOULD ACCEPT THAT AND SHE
SAID NO.
AND THIS WAS TOLD TO ME BY SEVERAL OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF,
THEN I PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS AND FOUND THE DOCUMENTS ON IT.
IT'S JUST ABHORRENT THAT THERE IS THIS ATTITUDE OF LET'S GO
-- ANYBODY WHO DARES ASK A QUESTION, LET'S GO AFTER THEM.
AND THERE ARE ATTACKS AGAINST CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE
ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC, SO IMAGINE HOW AN EMPLOYEE FEELS.
AND WHAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE TOLD IS, WELL, GO HIRE A LAWYER,
HA HA HA.
AND THEN THEY CALL CITY COUNCIL.
I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF VOICE MAILS, WHICH I'VE GIVEN TO PUBLIC
RECORDS REQUESTS BEFORE, OF EMPLOYEES CRYING ON THE PHONE
ABOUT THE WAY THE MAYOR HAS SCREAMED AND CURSED AT THEM OR
SOMEBODY ELSE HAS SCREAMED AND CURSED AT THEM OR THEY
MISTREATED THEM.
ALL OF IT GOES THROUGH THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T HEARD THE VOICE MAILS, PLEASE TALK TO THE
PUBLIC RECORDS PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEM.
WE PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS ON SOME OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF AND
PROVEN THAT THEY HAVE DONE BAD THINGS.
THE MAYOR SENDS AN E-MAIL SAYING, NO, WE LOOKED AT IT AND
THEY DIDN'T DO BAD THINGS BUT THE E-MAILS ARE THERE.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES
WERE GIVEN POSITIVE PERFORMANCE REVIEWS.
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
THE IDEA HERE IS IF THERE IS A HOSTILE WORKPLACE, I WISH THE
ADMINISTRATION WOULD START TO DO IT NOW, START TO ADDRESS IT
NOW.
WE CITY COUNCIL CAN'T FIRE THE MAYOR.
WE CAN'T FIRE THE MAYOR'S STAFF.
ALL WE CAN DO IS ASK THE EMPLOYEES OF THIS CITY DESERVE
BETTER LEADERSHIP.
THEY DESERVE REAL LEADERSHIP.
THEY DESERVE TO NOT FEEL LIKE IT IS A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
AND THEY CAN SEPARATE SAFELY IN THIS ORGANIZATION.
THANK YOU.
2:36:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:36:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE SOMETHING UNRELATED, BUT YOU ARE
SUPPOSED TO POSSIBLY DURING YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE TALK
ABOUT THE AFT COMMENDATIONS.
2:36:50PM >> THE ATU.
2:36:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, THE ATU.
2:36:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S FINISH THIS UP AND THEN WE'LL TAKE
THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS?
IF NOT, I'LL PUT THIS ONE TO BED.
HEARING NONE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU,
SIR.
2:37:09PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, SPUN OFF FROM
THIS MORNING ABOUT THE ATU.
BACK WHEN, BEFORE PRESIDENT SIMON WAS CHANGED OUT WITH THE
ATU GROUP THAT'S IN PLACE NOW, I WORKED WITH HIS UNION TO
CREATE THIS PROCESS, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD
CULTIVATE CANDIDATES FOR THAT AWARD, AND THEN WE WOULD GET
TO HIM THROUGH MY OFFICE AND THEN THE ATU WOULD MAKE THAT
SELECTION.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO
AWARDS COME THROUGH POLICE AND FIRE WHERE THEY ARE DONE
INSIDE THE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M TOLD THROUGH ATU TO HR TO MY OFFICE IS THAT THE ATU
IS LOOKING FORWARD TO CREATING AN AWARD-BASED PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE.
I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE AND THE
WAY THE ORGANIZATION RUNS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.
SINCE WE WERE DOING THE PROCESS ALL ALONG, I'M STILL HAPPY
TO GET THE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, TAKE
THEM TO EXECUTIVE STAFF FOR A VOTE AND THEN BRING THEM TO
COUNCIL IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT WORK.
ATU IS JUST VOTING ON THE RECOMMENDATION.
BUT THAT'S UP TO THEM.
IF IT WANTS TO BE AN ATU-NOMINATED CANDIDATE, THEN WE NEED
TO WAIT FOR THEM TO FINISH THEIR PROCESS.
2:38:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE A BARGAINING UNIT.
IS OUR HEAD OF PERSONNEL HERE?
LMR SPECIALIST.
IT'S A RECOGNIZED BARGAINING UNIT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, I
BELIEVE THIS WOULD FALL WITHIN A NEGOTIATED RIGHT.
I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE ATU TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE THAT KIND OF AWARD SYSTEM.
2:38:41PM >> THEY ARE A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT.
YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR.
KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT
DEVELOPMENT.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
WHEN THIS -- ORIGINALLY, WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME IN,
THERE WAS NO RECOGNITION FOR THE ATU, AND THE ADMINISTRATION
BROUGHT THAT FORWARD TO THE ATU AT THAT TIME AND SAID WE'D
LIKE TO DO SOMETHING FOR YOU AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S POLICE AND
FIRE.
THE MECHANISM THAT THEY AGREED TO THAT THEY WANTED PUT IN
PLACE WAS CHIEF OF STAFF HAD SHARED WITH YOU AND THEN THOSE
CANDIDATES WERE BEING SENT OVER TO THE ATU LEADERSHIP TO
DETERMINE WHO THEY WANTED RECOGNIZED.
THE NEW TRUSTEES, AGAIN, ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THEIR
UNDERSTANDING, I THINK, OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND
WHAT TASKS THEY DO AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEY JUST ASKED ORIGINALLY, BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD
ASKED ABOUT IT, COULD WE PAUSE IT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
WE REACHED OUT AND SAID, SURE, WE CAN DO THAT.
THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET CAUGHT
UP IN JUNE AND THEN WE REALIZED THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE
FEASIBLE.
THEY WROTE AGAIN AND SAID WE'D LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO
EVALUATE.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING BARGAINED AT THE
TABLE BUT WE COLLABORATED WITH THEM ON THIS.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO HEAR WHAT THEIR DESIRE WOULD BE OR
FEEDBACK WOULD BE.
BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AWARD THE EMPLOYEES REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER THE UNION WANTS TO OR NOT.
HOWEVER, COMMA BUT, BUT THAT IS NOT HOW WE DO IT.
WE DO WORK WITH THE UNIONS ON THESE, YES, SIR.
2:40:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CAVEAT.
2:40:18PM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
2:40:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE ARE EASY WAYS AND HARD WAYS.
2:40:20PM >> YOU GOT THAT RIGHT.
YES, SIR.
2:40:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EASY WAYS AND HARD WAYS.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THE
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BARGAINING UNIT --
2:40:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, SO THAT WE ALLOW THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED TO BE
RECOGNIZED.
IF THIS WAS DONE QUARTERLY AND WE MISSED TWO QUARTERS, THEN
WE HAVE IT ON TWO CONSECUTIVE MONTHS SO THAT ANOTHER -- SO
THAT WE KEEP THE SAME NUMBER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
2:40:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, THIS IS PART --
2:40:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I GUESS YOU'RE RIGHT.
MY WISHES.
2:40:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET THE ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH ATU.
IF THAT IS A PROPOSAL THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, MAYBE THEY
CAN DO THAT.
2:41:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHE MENTIONED THAT GIVING AN AWARD TO ATU
WAS THE ADMINISTRATION'S IDEA.
I SEEM TO REMEMBER IT WAS YOUR IDEA OR CITY COUNCIL'S IDEA.
2:41:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHEN SHE SAID THAT, BILL, I SAW YOUR HEAD
TURN.
I DON'T CARE.
IT'S ALL GOOD.
2:41:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT WAS YOUR IDEA, RIGHT?
YOU MADE THE MOTION --
2:41:18PM >> I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
WHAT I MEANT IS IT WAS NOT IN PLACE.
I APOLOGIZE.
2:41:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL GOOD.
WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LET THE
ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH THE NEW ATU LEADERSHIP.
THEN WE'LL HEAR BACK ON THE RESULTS OF THAT.
HEARING NOTHING ELSE, WE PUT THAT TO BED.
THANK YOU, CHIEF OF STAFF, AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR
COMING OUT FOR THE ISSUE.
MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS 62?
2:41:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, ITEM 62, COUNCIL, IS A RECOMMENDATION
REGARDING AMENDING AND RESTATING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE
GOVERNING THE MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
I HAVE PROVIDED YOU A COVER MEMO.
I HAVE PROVIDED YOU A RESOLUTION, VERY SIMPLE.
I'VE PROVIDED YOU TWO ATTACHMENTS.
ONE IS THE CLEAN VERSION AND THE OTHER ONE, B, IS THE
UNDERLINE AND STRIKE-THROUGH, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE
SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
COUNCIL, PER YOUR COUNCIL RULES, 9A, IT SAYS THESE RULES OF
PROCEDURE MAY BE AMENDED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE ENTIRE
COUNCIL AT ANY REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER
HAVING BEEN READ, THE TITLE, AT TWO CONSECUTIVE REGULAR
COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THIS IS THE FIRST.
MY REQUEST IS THIS COUNCIL.
I UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS NOT
GOING TO BE PRESENT.
I BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO JOIN US IN THE
DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES BACK.
I ASK THEN HAVE THE TITLE READ AND SET FOR JUNE 18 AND THEN
WE CAN DISCUSS IT THEN AND WE COULD HAVE -- I WANT YOU TO
KNOW, COUNCIL, JUST AS YOU DID THIS MORNING, I HEARD
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IT, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT -- I
SHOULD POINT OUT TO YOU THAT NO FEWER THAN SEVEN ATTORNEYS
HAD A HAND IN THESE -- IN CREATING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS THE RULES STATE, IT HAS TO BE DONE ON
MULTIPLE OCCASIONS BEFORE YOU EVEN DECIDE AS TO WHETHER
YOU'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THIS BEING THE FIRST READING, IT WOULD GIVE ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY BE ABLE TO ALSO GIVE
YOU THE CONTEXT TO EXPLAIN IT.
CERTAINLY AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID TO YOU, THESE ARE NOT MY
RULES.
THESE ARE NOT THE ADMINISTRATION'S RULES.
THESE ARE YOUR RULES.
AND ULTIMATELY IT'S YOUR DECISION, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO
HEAR THE CONTEXT OF IT.
REQUEST IT BE READ BY TITLE AND SET FOR JUNE 18.
2:43:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OBJECTION TO ME READING THE TITLE AND
SETTING THE HEARING?
I MOVE FILE E 2026-48 --
2:44:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO READ THE TITLE AND THEN JUST SET THE DATE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE IT.
IT'S A MOTION TO SET THE DATE FOR JUNE 18.
JUST READ THE TITLE.
YOU ARE NOT AFFIRMING -- THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION.
YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.
2:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
READING THE TITLE RESOLUTION AMENDING AND
RESTATING CITY COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURES.
2:44:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
READ THE TITLE IN FULL, PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 62.
2:44:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RESOLUTION AMENDING AND RESTATING THE RULES
OF PROCEDURE GOVERNING THE MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA TO PRIMARILY ADDRESS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
WITHIN THE LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM CREATED TO CONDUCT OFFICIAL
PUBLIC BUSINESS; PROVIDING AN --
2:44:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY --
2:44:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ON JUNE 18 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND
SETTING THE HEARING TO HAPPEN ON JUNE 18.
2:44:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHY DON'T WE DO THIS THEN.
THAT'S JUST READING THE TITLE.
NOW HAVING READ THE TITLE, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A MOTION TO
HAVE IT SET AGAIN FOR JUNE 18 SO THAT WAY NONE OF YOU ARE
NOW TAKING ANY ACTION ON THE TITLE ITSELF.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU ARE READING IT PROCEDURALLY TO
COMPLY WITH RULE 9A BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO
-- I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK YOU ARE VOTING ON THIS NOW IN
ITS PRESENT FORM.
I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
2:45:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO SET THE NEXT READING ON JUNE
18, 2026.
2:45:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FIRST READING.
THERE IS NO READING.
YOU CAN'T SAY NEXT READING.
2:45:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PER RULE 9A, YOU WILL HAVE, AFTER YOU READ
IT THE SECOND TIME, YOU WILL HAVE READ AT TWO CONSECUTIVE
REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THEN YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO TAKE ACTION ON THE
RESOLUTION.
2:45:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A MOTION TO SET JUNE 18, 2026.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. SHELBY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO
DO WHEN YOU STOPPED ME.
2:46:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS ABOUT TO STOP YOU.
THIS IS NOT LIKE READING AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S NOT LIKE MOVING IT.
2:46:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MISTAKE WAS SAYING I MOVED IT.
2:46:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
BASICALLY, THIS IS PER YOUR RULES ON HOW YOU AMEND YOUR
RULES OF PROCEDURE.
2:46:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT A NORMAL THING?
BECAUSE IT SEEMS WEIRD TO ME.
2:46:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT PREVENTS ACCUSATIONS OF IT NOT BEING
TRANSPARENT.
2:46:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PROCEDURE.
2:46:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS PREDATES ME.
THESE WERE THE EXISTING RULES PRIOR TO 2004.
2:46:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY
SCHEDULED PROGRAM.
NEW BUSINESS?
MR. CARLSON.
2:46:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CLERK
TO INCLUDE JAMIE ADAIR'S DOCUMENTS IN FILE CM 26-21881 SO
THAT THEY CARRY FORWARD TO THE TIME WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IT
IN THE FUTURE.
2:47:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT?
2:47:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS THAT DURING THE WATER
SHORTAGE THAT THE CITY IS PLANTING NEW TREES ON BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD WHICH PRESUMABLY REQUIRES WATER TO BE PUT IN THEM.
I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MYSELF BUT I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT
IT.
2:47:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT I'M HEARING COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAYS, HE'S AGAINST
PLANTING NEW TREES.
2:47:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M IN FAVOR OF NEW TREES --
[ LAUGHTER ]
-- BUT IN THE MIDDLE, WE OUGHT TO DO IT DURING THE MIDDLE OF
RAINY SEASON NOT WHEN --
2:47:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:47:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
TWO QUICK ONES, IF I MAY.
FIRST OFF, FOR JULY 30th, I WISH TO HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT
FOR CITY STAFF TO PREPARE WRITTEN REPORT FOR EVALUATING THE
FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A DOG PARK IN THE FOREST HILLS
AREA, SPECIFICALLY NEAR BABE ZAHARIAS.
2:48:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT?
2:48:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND, IF I MAY.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF US HAVE GOTTEN
E-MAILS AND CALLS ON THE MARTI-COLON ISSUE.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE'S
ESSENTIALLY PRETTY MUCH NOTHING THE CITY CAN DO ON IT BUT
WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS.
ONE OF THE TIMES WHEN I WALKED OUTSIDE OF CITY COUNCIL I
SPOKE WITH MS. WELLS ABOUT IT BEFORE MAKING THE MOTION JUST
TO MAKE SURE THERE WERE NO WHATEVER, LEGAL CONCERNS OR WHAT
HAVE YOU WITH THE MOTION.
THERE APPEAR TO BE NONE.
MY MOTION IS THIS AND IT WOULD BE TIME LIMITED.
WE CAN DO IT ON JUNE 18, EITHER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE OR
THROUGH A SEPARATE BRIEFING, THIS IS MY MOTION, MOTION FOR
CITY LEGAL TO BRIEF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL ON THE ABILITY OF THE
CITY TO INTERVENE IN ANY WAY AT THE DEVELOPMENT AT
MARTI-COLON AREA.
I WISH TO STATE THIS AT THE BEGINNING.
IT IS MY BELIEF BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S
NOTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO -- YES, SIR.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE
I'M GETTING A LOT OF CALLS.
WE HAD A LETTER BEFORE FROM REPRESENTATIVE FENTRICE
DRISKELL, NOW ANOTHER ONE FROM STATE REPRESENTATIVE DANNY
ALVAREZ.
GOOD TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT FOR PURPOSES
OF TRANSPARENCY SO THEY CAN HEAR WHAT WE HEAR BECAUSE IT IS
A VERY EMOTIONAL ISSUE AND THAT'S IT.
WHAT I WOULD DO IS TO LIMIT IT BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE DEAL WITH THIS IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.
I DON'T LIKE TO WRITE POLITICAL CHECKS THAT WILL BOUNCE,
RIGHT?
SO WE CAN LIMIT THAT DISCUSSION, COUNCIL TO TEN MINUTES.
PART OF MY MOTION, IF I MAY.
AGAIN, THIS IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WE'VE ALREADY BEEN
TOLD BUT GOOD TO HAVE IT PUBLICLY STATED.
2:50:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH A TEN-MINUTE LIMIT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE
UPDATES, MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS?
2:50:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, TWO THINGS.
I THINK THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS, AND WE CAN'T HAVE THEM
INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THESE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS REQUIRE MORE
CREATIVE THINKING.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PROPOSE AND I THINK YOU ALL SUPPORT
IT BUT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS AGAINST, IS THE PROBLEM IS AN
INDIVIDUAL LIKE THIS CAN PAY $50,000 FOR GROUND PENETRATING
RADAR AND IF IT SAYS THERE ARE NO BODIES, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
BELIEVE THEM.
NEEDS TO BE A THIRD PARTY, USF OR THE CITY, BUT NEEDS TO BE
A WAY THE CITY CAN PAY SOMEBODY TO DO AN ANALYSIS SO THE
PUBLIC TRUSTS THE PROCESS.
NUMBER TWO IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT FACTORS
INVOLVED, A CREATIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE, YES, NO LEGAL THING
WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW BUT A CREATIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO SWAP
PROPERTIES WITH THE PERSON.
THE PERSON WANTS TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES, LET'S FIND A
PROPERTY NEARBY THAT'S IDEALLY ALREADY ZONED AND SWAP
PROPERTIES WITH THEM.
THEN THE CITY WOULD OWN THE PROPERTY AND THAT PERSON WOULD
BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE TO THINK CREATIVELY OUTSIDE THE NARROW LIMITS OF
THE LAW.
HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL DO THIS.
WE TRIED TO DO IT IN OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, TOO, BUT
WE'VE GOT TO THINK CREATIVELY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS
FRUSTRATED BY THESE ISSUES.
2:51:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
YEAH, IN THAT MOTION, I WOULD ASK FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO
BRIEF US ON WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO, INCLUDING
WHETHER IT'S CORRESPONDENCE.
TEN COMMANDMENTS AND THEN TEN SUGGESTIONS, SO THAT'S PART OF
IT SO TO SPEAK.
2:51:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TEN COMMANDMENTS AND TEN SUGGESTIONS.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
2:52:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
2:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S NOT ALL NEW BUSINESS, IS IT?
2:52:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, IT IS.
I WILL NEVER STOP IT.
2:52:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MEANT LIKE THIS.
2:52:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THIS IS ALL THE NEW BUSINESS RIGHT HERE,
STARTING FROM THE TOP.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL KNOW, MR. ALBERT OWENS,
MR. BUCIFIED, HE HAS A SCHOLARSHIP HE DOES EVERY YEAR IN
HONOR OF HIS MOM.
I WAS ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT PRESENTATION.
HEARD HIM SAY YOUTH OPEN MIKE CELEBRATED 19 YEARS, I THINK
IT WAS LAST WEEKEND, CELEBRATED 19 YEARS.
I ACTUALLY USED TO BE -- WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER.
SO VERY FULL-CIRCLE MOMENT TO SEE THE STUDENTS AND A LOT OF
ALUMNI THAT WERE THERE.
GENTLEMAN QUEST HAD AWARDS GALA.
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME TO SEE ALL THE YOUNG MEN.
ONE GOT A FULL FOUR-YEAR SCHOLARSHIP.
I THINK HE'S GOING TO -- I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS FAMU OR
BETHUNE.
BUT A FULL FOUR-YEAR SCHOLARSHIP.
IT WAS REALLY AWESOME.
SOME AMAZING YOUNG MEN.
I WENT TO NORTHVIEW HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THEY GAVE ME A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.
IT WAS VERY NICE.
FIRST WEEK OF CAMP, SUMMER CAMP HAVE STARTED.
URGING PARENTS, PLEASE MAKE SURE IF YOU CAN, FIND SOMETHING
FOR YOUR STUDENT TO DO FOR THIS SUMMER.
THE TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MEETING, I WENT TO ONE AT
RAGAN PARK.
A FEW MORE HAPPENING, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE.
I THINK THE NEXT ONE IS JUNE 8.
2:53:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE LAST ONE IS JUNE 8 IN WEST TAMPA.
2:53:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
A LOT OF THINGS THAT MY PREDECESSOR
MS. HENDERSON WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT.
JEFFERSON DRAGONS EDUCATION, HBCUs AND FAMU.
AND I WENT TO THE FAMU BE OUT DAY AT PERRY HARVEY PARK.
THIRD YEAR.
IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
IT WAS VERY AWESOME.
I'M EXCITED JUST TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO GROW.
I KNOW SHE'S VERY EXCITED TO SEE IT GROW AS WELL.
ALSO, HBCU FRESHMEN SEND-OFF AT THE RIVER CENTER AND IT WAS
HOSTED BY HER DAUGHTER ARIEL AND HER FAMILY.
SO IT WAS VERY NICE TO ATTEND THAT EVENT.
LASTLY, MY ONE OF THREE INTERNS STARTED TODAY, MS. KENDALL,
WHO IS SITTING HERE.
THIS IS MY FIRST INTERN.
SHE STARTED TODAY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO -- SO YOU ALL CAN SEE MS. KENDALL.
2:54:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAY YOUR NAME --
2:54:38PM >> KENDALL HENDERSON.
TAMPA NATIVE.
BONITO MIDDLE SCHOOL.
GRADUATED FROM WHARTON HIGH SCHOOL.
BROTHER JESUIT.
DAD GRADUATED FROM HILLSBOROUGH.
ATTEND AMERICAN UNIVERSITY IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WHERE I PLAY
SOCCER.
MAJOR IS INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS AND MINOR IS CHINESE.
2:54:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOW.
NOW YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY THE SMARTEST PERSON IN COUNCIL.
[ LAUGHTER ]
2:55:03PM >> I'M SUPER EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU ALL THIS SUMMER.
2:55:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
WHAT A GOOD ACQUISITION.
I'M IMPRESSED.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:55:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME FOR
THIS.
BUT I'M PROMISING YOU THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY NARROW THINGS
DOWN.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE A TREE WORKSHOP COMING UP ON THE 25th.
I TOLD YOU THAT I WOULD HELP STREAMLINE AND ORGANIZE THIS,
SO THIS IS IT.
I'M SORRY, IT'S A LOT TO SAY.
DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE COPIES.
SO I MADE THE MOTION TO HOLD SPACE ON JUNE 25th WORKSHOP
AGENDA FOR A SECOND ROUND OF DISCUSSION OF THE TREE TRUST
FUND AND NRAC.
THIS MOTION WILL FURTHER DEFINE THE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION.
I MAKE -- NUMBER ONE, I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF EXPLAIN THE
ORIGINAL PURPOSE AND GOAL OF THE NRAC, THE NATURAL RESOURCES
ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND HOW IT WORKS WITH THE INTERNAL
TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP, EXPLAIN THE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS
AND ACTION ITEMS.
THAT'S MY FIRST MOTION.
2:56:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:56:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STAFF ALREADY AGREED TO ALL THIS.
NUMBER TWO, LEGAL TO PREPARE A DRAFT NRAC RESOLUTION BASED
ON APRIL 23rd, 2026 DISCUSSION.
AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON JUNE 25th, 2026, LEGAL STAFF
TO RETURN WITH A RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL ON JULY 16, 2026.
2:56:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:56:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIRD.
COUNCIL TO SET DATES FOR NRAC APPOINTMENTS AND TO DISCUSS
WHETHER TO OPEN APPLICATIONS AGAIN.
THAT WILL HAPPEN THEN.
2:56:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:57:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MADE THIS MOTION AT THE TREE WORKSHOP.
I MADE A MOTION THAT COUNCIL MOVE TO REVIEW THE $300 PER
TREE MITIGATION FEE, THE MOTION WAS CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, BUT
TO FOLLOW UP I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF EXPLAIN THE STEPS REQUIRED
TO INCREASE THE MITIGATION FEE DURING THIS WORKSHOP ON JUNE
25th, 2026, NO PRESENTATION IS NECESSARY.
JUST DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE STEPS ARE.
WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.
2:57:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST A WRITTEN REPORT?
2:57:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
THEY WILL BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS, SO THEY'LL
TELL US THE NEXT STEPS.
2:57:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
2:57:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN A FOLLOW-UP MOTION FOR NEXT STEPS.
AND THE LAST ONE, I WANT TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE
TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF THE
TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM TO INCLUDE SUCCESS RATES, TREE
SELECTION, WAIT LIST, WHERE TREES CAN BE PLANTED AND
HOMEOWNER REQUIREMENTS.
FURTHER, TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS REQUIRED TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM
TO INCLUDE PLANTING IN ALL OF HOMEOWNER'S FRONT YARDS, LIKE
THE FULL FRONT YARD INSTEAD OF JUST THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:58:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:58:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY THAT WAS A LOT.
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL STREAMLINE THE CONVERSATION ON -- DURING
THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO RUN AROUND
LIKE CHICKENS.
2:58:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT WORK.
THAT WAS GOOD.
2:58:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT
ALL CREDIT GOES TO MS. KELLY SCHARF.
2:58:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, KELLY.
IS THAT IT?
2:58:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:58:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:58:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
PRESENT A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE ON OCTOBER 2nd, 2026, TO
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEIR CENTENNIAL
CELEBRATION.
THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF WEST TAMPA'S
HISTORY FOR GENERATIONS, AND THIS CELEBRATION WILL HONOR THE
SCHOOL'S LASTING IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
2:59:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXCELLENT.
I SPEED BY THEM ALL THE TIME.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS A JOKE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:59:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE COMMENDATION FOR
THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM FROM JULY 30th AGENDA AND PLACE IT ON
AUGUST 27 AGENDA AS PRESIDENT AND CEO ROGER GERMANN WILL BE
OUT OF TOWN.
2:59:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
2:59:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:59:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, YOU HAVE TO GET TO ME FIRST.
[INDISCERNIBLE]
2:59:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SEE THAT OUR FEARLESS LEADER HAS A LOT.
2:59:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND I NEVER HAVE NEW BUSINESS.
IT'S KIND OF CRAZY.
3:00:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CHAIR CLENDENIN.
3:00:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I NEVER HAVE NEW BUSINESS.
FIRST, PREFACE THIS, I KNOW THE CRA HAS DONE AN ALLEY
ASSESSMENT IN THE WEST TAMPA CRA.
ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
WORKING ON FINISHING ASSESSING THE ALLEYS WITHIN WEST TAMPA.
WHILE THESE MOTIONS ARE BROAD, I HOPE WE CAN FINISH
ASSESSING THE ALLEYS IN WEST TAMPA AND MOVE ON TO THE REST
OF THE CITY.
I COORDINATED THE FOLLOWING MOTIONS WITH THE MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT.
NUMBER ONE, I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT IN COORDINATION WITH OTHER AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS
TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL WITHIN 60 DAYS ON THE PROGRESS AND
PLANNED ACTIONS TO DEFINE CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING WHETHER A
PUBLIC ALLEY IS FUNCTIONAL AND CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING
VEHICULAR ACCESS.
60 DAYS, AUGUST 6, 2026.
3:00:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIR.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
3:00:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE HAVE TO FIND OUT --
3:01:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
3:01:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE SECOND, THESE LAY ON EACH OTHER.
I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO
RETURN TO COUNCIL WITHIN 90 DAYS TO REPORT DETAILING THE
SCOPE OF WORK NEEDED TO DELIVER A CITYWIDE ALLEY ASSESSMENT.
THE PROPOSED SCOPE SHOULD INCLUDE DESCRIPTION OF NEEDED
TASK, ESTIMATED COST, STAFFING REQUIREMENTS, TIMELINESS AND
ASSESSMENT DELIVERY OPTIONS.
AND THAT WOULD BE -- THE LAST DATE WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 3,
2026, TO DELIVER THAT.
3:01:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
3:01:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT ONE, THIS IS, NOT TO JINX US FROM THE
BEGINNING, THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE
LAND, AND THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
SETTING A TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TA/CPA 26-03 ON JULY
23rd, 2026 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR
ADVERTISING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE.
3:02:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL OF IT?
SAME ONE TALKING ABOUT ON THE OTHER SIDE?
3:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND BEFORE I CAN HAVE ANY -- I HAVE A SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:02:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK WE'RE MAKING A MISTAKE THERE.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT
LAND OR THAT INDIVIDUAL BRINGING THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GO -- I'M NOT LOST FOR WORDS, BUT WE'RE
NEGOTIATING NOW WITH SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY BIG ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER AND THIS IS PUTTING THE CART IN FRONT OF THE HORSE
BY SAYING WE WANT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT AND WE'RE GOING TO
GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO DO IT, IS THAT IT?
3:02:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
THIS IS JUST THE TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
THIS IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SEND IT UP TO
TALLAHASSEE TO GET THEIR REMARKS TO SEND IT BACK.
THAT'S ALL THIS IS.
3:02:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SAY THEY ARE FUNDING IT.
3:02:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SAYING THEN IT COMES BACK TO US FOR
DECISION.
THIS IS NOT A DECISION POINT.
THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
MR. SHELBY.
3:03:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A
MINISTERIAL PROCESS AT THIS POINT TO DIRECT THE NOTICE TO GO
OUT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AT A TRANSMITTAL HEARING
WHETHER IT WISHES TO TRANSMIT THIS TO THE STATE AND HAVE THE
PLANNING COMMISSION ADDRESS IT.
IS THAT CORRECT?
3:03:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
3:03:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD YES.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS PUTTING THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR YOU
TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
3:03:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
3:03:54PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
3:03:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY LAST AND MORE PLEASANT MOTION IS --
THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR COUNCILMAN VIERA SINCE THEY ARE
PERFORMING UP THERE -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE
TAMPA CITY BALLET TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 17,
2026, ABOUT THEIR -- THE IMPACT THAT THEY ARE MAKING ON THE
COMMUNITY AND THE MISSION OF MAKING PROFESSIONAL DANCE
ACCESSIBLE THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY.
3:04:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM THE CHAIR.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE TO SAY, THEY E-MAILED ME AND ASKED ME TO COME AND SEE
A SHOW.
I WENT TO SEE THE NEW BALLET WORKS WHICH WAS UNBELIEVABLE
INNOVATIVE.
IT WAS SO INCREDIBLY COOL.
WENT TO SEE THE VIDEO GAME ONE.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
JUST ONE OF THE BEST LIVE PERFORMANCES I'VE SEEN IN A REALLY
LONG TIME.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO GO TO
THE TAMPA BALLET THAT YOU DO SO.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
3:04:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME SAY SOMETHING, TOO.
THIS FALL WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY ARE ON BREAK FOR SUMMER.
THEY HAVE LA SEPTIMA.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, THAT IS TAMPA BAY'S CIGAR --
AMAZING.
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.
3:05:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STILL THERE?
3:05:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY ARE OUT FOR BREAK.
3:05:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS ONLY FOR THREE DAYS.
IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.
SO FAST.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO DO MORE FOR THE BALLET, BUT REALLY, I
WOULD LOVE FOR THEM -- WE COULD BARELY -- WE WENT TO THE
VERY FIRST PERFORMANCE WHICH WAS A MATINEE ON A SATURDAY.
THEY HAD SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY AND THAT WAS IT.
WE JUST WANTED TO TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
ANY WAY THAT WE COULD FIND TO EXTEND THEIR RUNS SO THAT MORE
PEOPLE COULD SEE.
IT WAS THE MOST INNOVATIVE, INTERESTING THING.
THEY HAD LIKE A GRAPHIC DESIGNER FROM APPLE WHO HAD CREATED
THIS PROJECTION ON THE BACK WALL, ON THE FLOOR AND ON THE
WHOLE SIDES OF THE THEATER.
AND THEY WERE ACTING LIKE THEY WERE IN A VIDEO GAME.
SO THEY WERE HOPPING AND JUMPING.
IT KIND OF DID GO BACK TO SUPER MARIO BROTHERS WHERE THEY
WOULD HIT SOMETHING AND SOMETHING WOULD -- THEY DID A
RUNNING GAME.
SIMILAR TO THE CAR RACING GAMES.
IT WAS TRULY AMAZING.
THAT WAS ONLY ONE OF THE AMAZING PERFORMANCES.
3:06:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I TOOK MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER UP.
AGAIN, PLUG FOR NEW TAMPA.
3:06:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BEAUTIFUL SPACE.
3:06:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REALLY NICE SPACE.
AND WE DID THAT DRIVE TO TAMPA.
MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER AND SHE JUST STARTED AT THE
STRAZ THIS LAST WEEK, SUMMER BALLET PROGRAM.
INSPIRED.
WE WENT TO SEE SLEEPING BEAUTY.
3:06:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU ARE FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM WHERE I LIVE,
HUNTER'S GREEN RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.
THAT PASSED.
IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION IT ALMOST FAILED.
VICTOR CRIST'S BABY AND KEN HAGAN TOOK IT OVER AND ALMOST
FAILED.
CITY INTERVENED AND PROMISED TO DO MAINTENANCE ON IT.
IT'S A GREAT THING.
3:06:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GREAT ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY.
3:07:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR CLENDENIN AND WHO SECONDED IT?
COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
I DO HAVE ONE MORE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION BECAUSE
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG MENTIONED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
UPDATES.
THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT.
WE HAD ONE IN SOUTH TAMPA ON MONDAY.
THAT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
WE HAD A GREAT ONE IN EAST TAMPA ON TUESDAY, ALSO WELL
ATTENDED, NORTH TAMPA WAS LAST NIGHT.
HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND ANYBODY WHO HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT
OUT COME TO BARKSDALE COMMUNITY CENTER AT 6:30 ON MONDAY
NIGHT, JUNE 8.
3:07:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ALL BE NICE TO STAFF.
3:07:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY WERE.
PEOPLE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, BUT SOME REALLY GREAT
IDEAS HAVE COME FROM ALL OF IT.
I REALLY ENJOYED THE TIME.
3:07:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO FIX THE
SQUEAKY DOOR?
3:07:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I LIKE THE SQUEAKY DOOR.
I CAN TELL WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.
3:08:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TIME ME FOR ONE MINUTE.
IT'S ON RORY JONES THAT ALL OF US KNOW WHO IS OBVIOUSLY WITH
OUR WATER DEPARTMENT.
HE CAME OUT TO A MEETING AT FOREST HILLS TO TALK ABOUT SOME
DROUGHT ISSUES.
IT WAS POURING RAIN OUT THERE.
HE WENT OUT THERE.
I KNOW, RIGHT?
IT WAS POURING RAIN OUT THERE AND HE DID A GREAT JOB.
HE WAS VERY PATIENT.
I WANT TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY.
HE RAN INTO SOMEBODY THERE WHO WAS EXTREMELY RUDE TO HIM.
AND IT JUST PISSED ME OFF BECAUSE HE IS A NICE GUY.
I TOLD THE MAYOR AND CHIEF BENNETT ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST
WANTED TO PUBLICLY SALUTE RORY FOR HAVING PATIENCE AND
RESILIENCY IN THE FACE OF A LITTLE SOMETHING.
THAT'S ALL.
HE'S A GOOD GUY.
3:08:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S A REMINDER THAT WE'RE ELECTED AND
GETTING YELLED AT AND STUFF.
THE STAFF, THEY ARE EMPLOYEES AND THEY ARE WORKING HERE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE WORKING MANY, MANY HOURS.
I THINK -- I ASK THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THEM THE DEFERENCE FOR
THAT.
I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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