📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

CRA
THURSDAY, JUNE 11, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.

9:04:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
GOOD MORNING.
THIS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO
ORDER.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I WILL HAND IT OVER TO BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO FOR THE
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:04:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TODAY IS JUNE 11th.
YESTERDAY MARKED THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSING OF
OUR COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER AND BOARD MEMBER GWENDOLYN
HENDERSON.
IT GIVES ME -- IT'S A GREAT HONOR TODAY TO WELCOME A VERY
CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND.
THIS IS SUPERINTENDENT CLETHEN SUTTON.
SUPERINTENDENT SUTTON SERVES AS PASTOR OF MIRACLE TEMPLE
INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST IN TAMPA WHERE HE HAS
FAITHFULLY LEAD AND SERVED THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.
HE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE WEST CENTRAL DISTRICT OF THE

CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST AND SERVES AS CHAIRMAN OF THE TAMPA
BAY COALITION OF CLERGY, BRINGING TOGETHER FAITH LEADERS
FROM ACROSS OUR REGION TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFFECTING OUR
COMMUNITIES.
IN ADDITION TO HIS MINISTRY LEADERSHIP, SUPERINTENDENT
SUTTON HAS DEVOTED MORE THAN THREE DECADES TO PUBLIC SERVICE
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SCHOOL SAFETY.
HE SERVES AS LIEUTENANT WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC
SCHOOLS SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION AND
CONTINUES TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH HIS COMMITMENT TO
PUBLIC SAFETY, YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
KNOWN FOR HIS DEDICATION OF FAITH, FAMILY, AND COMMUNITY,
SUPERINTENDENT SUTTON HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BUILD BRIDGES
BETWEEN GOVERNMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOLS, AND THE FAITH
COMMUNITY.
HIS LEADERSHIP CONTINUES TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT
THROUGHOUT THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING SUPERINTENDENT CLETHEN SUTTON
WHO WILL NOW OFFER THE INVOCATION AND WORDS OF EXPRESSION.
WE WILL FOLLOW WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN I
WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO SUPERINTENDENT SUTTON FOR
A FEW WORDS.
PLEASE STAND, THANK YOU.
9:06:04AM >> [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TODAY WITH GREAT HEARTS,

ACKNOWLEDGING THAT EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFTS COME FROM
YOU.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR ITS RICH DIVERSITY,
ITS VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS, ITS BUSINESSES, ITS SCHOOLS, ITS
HOUSES OF WORSHIP AND THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS CITY HOME.
LORD, WE ASK YOUR DIVINE WISDOM UPON OUR MAYOR AND THE
MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AS THEY CARRY OUT THE
IMPORTANT WORK OF GOVERNING AND SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.
GRANT THEM THE DISCERNMENT IN EVERY DECISION, INTEGRITY IN
EVERY ACTION THEY REPRESENT.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SERVES AS A LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF CITY
GOVERNMENT, ENTRUSTED WITH ENACTING ORDINANCES AND
RESOLUTIONS THAT IMPACT THE DAILY LIVES OF RESIDENTS.
FATHER, GIVE THEM THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, EVEN WHEN
IT IS DIFFICULT.
HELP THEM TO SEEK JUSTICE, PROMOTE PEACE AND WORK FOR THE
COMMON GOOD.
MAY THEIR DISCUSSIONS BE RESPECTFUL, THE DELIBERATIONS
PRODUCTIVE, AND OUTCOMES BENEFICIAL TO ALL.
WE PRAY FOR ALL OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT,
FIREFIGHTERS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS, EDUCATORS, MILITARY
PERSONNEL, AND ALL THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
PROTECT THEM AND STRENGTHEN THEM IN THEIR ASSIGNMENTS.
WE PRAY HEAL HEARTS, COMFORT THOSE GRIEVING, PROVIDE THOSE
IN NEED AND BRING HOPE TO THOSE FACING UNCERTAINTY.

LET THIS CITY CONTINUE TO BE A PLACE OF OPPORTUNITY,
COMPASSION AND PROSPERITY.
LORD, AS THIS MEETING PROCEEDS, MAY ALL THAT IS SAID AND
DONE REFLECT WISDOM, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND SINCERE TO IMPROVE
DESIRE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERY RESIDENT.
AND NOW, ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD, WE TRUST YOU AND WITH ALL
OUR HEARTS AND ACKNOWLEDGE IN ALL OUR WAYS, BELIEVING YOU
WERE DIRECT OUR PATHS IN THE MIGHTY MASTER NAME OF JESUS WE
PRAY.
AMEN.
9:07:57AM >> AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SUPERINTENDENT, YES, SIR.
9:08:12AM >> AMEN.
THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO.
GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND
CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
TODAY WE PAUSE TO REMEMBER COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON AS
THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY OF HER PASSING.
WE DO SO FILLED WITH GRATITUDE, REFLECTION, AND HOPE.
THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHOSE INFLUENCE EXTENDS FAR
BEYOND THEIR YEARS OF SERVICE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
SHE WAS MORE THAN A PUBLIC SERVANT.
SHE WAS A VOICE FOR THE PEOPLE, AN ADVOCATE FOR THE

COMMUNITY, A BRIDGE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND THOSE SHE WAS
CALLED TO SERVE.
TO THE HENDERSON FAMILY, PLEASE KNOW THAT YOUR LOVED ONE HAS
NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN.
THE GREATEST TESTIMONY OF A LIFE WELL LIVED IS NOT FOUND IN
TITLES OR HELD OFFICES OCCUPIED, BUT IT LIVES IN LIVES
TOUCHED AND DIFFERENCES MADE.
HER LEGACY CONTINUES TO LIVE ON THROUGH THE COUNTLESS PEOPLE
SHE ENCOURAGED, EMPOWERED AND INSPIRED.
WHILE GRIEF MAY STILL VISIT YOUR HEARTS, MAY YOU FIND
COMFORT IN KNOWING THAT HER WORK CONTINUES TO BEAR FRUIT
THROUGHOUT THIS CITY.
TO OUR COMMUNITY, LET US REMEMBER THAT LEADERSHIP IS NOT
MEASURED MERELY BY POSITION, BUT BY SERVICE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON DEMONSTRATED WHAT IT MEANS TO CARE
DEEPLY ABOUT PEOPLE AND TO STAND FOR CAUSES GREATER THAN
ONESELF.
THE BEST WAY WE CAN HONOR HER MEMORY IS TO CONTINUE BUILDING
THE KIND OF COMMUNITY SHE ENVISIONED, ONE MARKED BY UNITY,
OPPORTUNITY, COMPASSION, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND TO ALL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS, HER
LIFE REMINDS US THAT PUBLIC OFFICE IS A SACRED TRUST.
EVERY VOTE CAST, EVERY POLICY CONSIDERED, EVERY DECISION
MADE IMPACTS REAL PEOPLE, REAL FAMILIES.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON'S EXAMPLE CHALLENGES US TO LEAD WITH

INTEGRITY, LISTEN WITH HUMILITY AND SERVE WITH PURPOSE.
AS SCRIPTURE REMINDS US, IT SAYS LET US NOT BE WARY, FOR IN
DUE SEASON YOU SHALL REAP.
TODAY WE CELEBRATE A LIFE OF WELL DOING.
WE CELEBRATE A WOMAN WHO RAN THE RACE, SERVED HER CITY AND
LEFT HER MARK ON TAMPA.
THOUGH HER VOICE MAY BE SILENT, HER INFLUENCE STILL SPEAKS.
MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS THE HENDERSON FAMILY, GUIDE THIS
COUNCIL, AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE CARRY FORWARD
THE LEGACY OF SERVICE, COMMITMENT, AND LOVE THAT
COUNCILWOMAN GWEN HENDERSON TO BEAUTIFULLY EXEMPLIFIED.
THANK YOU, AND MAY GOD BLESS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AMEN.
9:11:06AM >> AMEN.
9:11:10AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO SAY ANYTHING?
THANK YOU, PASTOR SUTTON.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:11:24AM >> MIRANDA?
9:11:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:11:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:11:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:11:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:11:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:11:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:11:30AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.

9:11:31AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:11:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY I SAY SOMETHING QUICK?
JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE HAD A SMALL -- WE ALL HAD A
SMALL GATHERING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON'S FAMILY
YESTERDAY.
WE PAID RESPECT TO HER YESTERDAY.
9:11:45AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL HAND IT TO DIRECTOR McCRAY FOR OUR AGENDA REVIEW.
9:11:59AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS AS WE SET THE AGENDA THIS MORNING.
THE FIRST ONE, WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM THE CHAIR'S OFFICE TO
ADD BACK TO TODAY'S AGENDA THE STAFF REPORT RELATED TO
SPECIAL REQUEST, SPECIAL PROJECTS AND FUNDING REQUESTS.
FOR THAT DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE IT MAY BE ITEM NUMBER 4 ON
YOUR AGENDA.
AND THAT KIND OF DOVETAILS FROM THE WORKSHOP WE HELD ON
MARCH 6 AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS ON APRIL 22 AS
WELL AS JUNE 4.
THE SECOND ITEM WOULD BE WE HAVE A WALK-ON ITEM RELATED TO
URBAN REWORX AT 2914 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
AS YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR IN JULY, YOU ACTUALLY APPROVED THE
APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR, AND WE MADE THE REQUEST

AT $3.5 MILLION AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.
WE'VE HAD CONTINUOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER
AND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM URBAN REWORX, AND WE ARE READY
TO BRING THAT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL.
9:13:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:13:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA?
9:13:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
REQUIRED APPROVALS.
9:13:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THAT --
9:13:15AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
UNDER REQUIRED APPROVALS.
9:13:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED TO ADD IT TO THE REQUIRED APPROVAL
PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
9:13:20AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE?
9:13:32AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THAT'S IT.
9:13:33AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S IT.
OKAY.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN
REPORT FROM DEE REED ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:13:44AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?
WE HAVE DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:13:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS?
9:13:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DIDN'T WE KIND OF BEAT THAT DEAD HORSE
ALREADY?
9:14:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YEAH.
BUT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE TO TALK
ABOUT IT TODAY.
JUST SAYING.
9:14:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GUESS WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE AND STILL
TALK ABOUT IT IF WE WANTED TO.
9:14:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.
9:14:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OTHER?
WE HAVE MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:25AM >> AYE.
9:14:25AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OPPOSED?
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALSO ON JUNE 4, YOU RECEIVED A MEMO FROM
MY OFFICE REQUESTING TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 9 TO JUNE 11,
2026, CRA MEETING.
I'M SORRY.
TO JULY 23, 2026.

9:14:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER --
9:14:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.
HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO GO THE RIGHT WAY, WE SHOULD GO AFTER
THE PUBLIC VOTES ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO LOWER THE AD
VALOREM TAX.
NO SENSE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
THE ROAD WILL END AND WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
MY OPINION IS TO HAVE IT ANYTIME AFTER THE VOTE IS TAKEN ON
WHATEVER DATE IT IS IN NOVEMBER.
IF NOT, WE'RE JUST FOOLING OURSELVES.
9:15:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME ADDRESS THAT SINCE IT IS MY MOTION.
9:15:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:15:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME EXPLAIN THE REASON BEHIND NEXT
MONTH, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE TALLAHASSEE AND AD VALOREM.
IT IS ALSO CONCERNING, THE NEGOTIATIONS BEHIND THE SCENES IS
STILL NOT COMPLETED.
SO THE RAYS' ORGANIZATION, THE COUNTY, AND THE CITY, AND OUR
CRA ATTORNEY I BELIEVE HAS BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION, AND
THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE
EXISTING AGREEMENTS ARE AND WHAT THE EXISTING CRA IS.
SO UNTIL WE GET THAT INFORMATION -- AND YOU MAY VERY WELL BE
RIGHT, JULY, BUT WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE IT
AT THAT POINT, TOO.
KEEP IT ON A PLACE ON THE JULY AGENDA.
9:15:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'VE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THIS.

AS THE CRA BOARD, THEY SHOULD BE TALKING TO EVERY SINGLE ONE
OF US.
I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE THAT YOU HAVE THAT
INFORMATION AND THE REST OF US DO NOT.
LET ME FINISH, PLEASE.
IT'S NOT OKAY.
IT JUST SIMPLY ISN'T.
I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA IN THAT THERE'S NO POINT
IN TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW BECAUSE OF NOVEMBER.
IF THEY WANT TO HAVE THIS OPEN DISCUSSION, THEY SHOULD HAVE
COME TO ALL OF US AND NOT JUST TO YOU.
I'M JUST SAYING, WHETHER IT BE STAFF, WHETHER IT BE THE
RAYS.
I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM EITHER PARTY.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE REST OF YOU.
IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
IT'S FINE TO MOVE IT TO JULY, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY.
I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER, AND IF
SOMETHING HAPPENS BEFORE THAT, THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON AN
AGENDA.
9:16:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME CHANNEL MY INNER HURTAK.
THEY DIDN'T COME TO ME.
I WENT TO THEM.
BECAUSE THE PHONES WORK BOTH WAYS.

THE AGENDA ITEM WAS POSTED, AND I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE OF
INFORMATION -- I MEAN, I PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING
AS WELL.
I DO MY RESEARCH AND I ALSO SERVE ON THE TAMPA SPORTS
AUTHORITY, SO I'M INVOLVED IN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.
I PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED THEM AND SAID, WHERE ARE WE
ON NEGOTIATIONS?
THEY SAID THEY ARE STILL ONGOING.
SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY IF THEY
ARE STILL NEGOTIATING?
9:17:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, BECAUSE AFTER OUR MEETING, KEN BABBY
CAME OUT THE NEXT DAY AND SAID NEGOTIATIONS ON THE ECONOMICS
OF IT ARE NOT GOING FORWARD.
SO I JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE WHAT WAS PUT INTO THE PRESS.
AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE ECONOMICS OF IT ARE NOT
GOING TO BE REVIEWED.
AND IF HE'S CHANGED HIS MIND, HE HASN'T SHARED IT WITH ANY
OF US.
9:17:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVEN AS SOON AS LAST NIGHT THEY HELD A
MEETING IN THE DREW PARK CRA.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S SELF-EVIDENT THIS IS STILL ONGOING.
AGAIN, IT'S DO NO HARM.
WE CAN CONTINUE THIS FOR ONE MONTH.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
IF IT'S NOT RIPE AT THAT POINT, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION

FROM YOU TO CONTINUE ANOTHER MONTH IF WE HAVE TO.
9:18:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:18:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THIS OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE WHAT
HAPPENS IS WE AS A CRA BOARD ONLY MEET ONCE A MONTH.
AND IT SAYS THE EXPECTATION OF THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC THAT
WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS.
FROM EVERYTHING I HEAR, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE READY A
MONTH FROM NOW EITHER.
I WOULD RATHER WHEN THEY ARE READY, THAT THEY FORMALLY
REQUEST TO THE BOARD TO GET ON THE AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL ADD
THEM TO THE AGENDA AT THAT TIME.
BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WILL BE READY, ESPECIALLY BASED ON
SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS LAST NIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CREATING A HOME
RULE TIF.
THAT WOULD TAKE POTENTIALLY MONTHS TO DO.
WITH THAT IN MIND, ALSO SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS MENTIONED A
MINUTE AGO, THERE WAS ANOTHER POLL OUT YESTERDAY THAT SAID
THE COMMUNITY THINKS IT SHOULD GO ON THE BALLOT.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO START THE CONVERSATION TO PUT IT AS A
NONBINDING QUESTION ON THE BALLOT.
BECAUSE I THINK THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST 10, AND MAYBE CITY
COUNCIL HAS TO DO THIS INSTEAD OF THE CRA BOARD, BUT IT'S
GOING TO TAKE PROBABLY UNTIL NOVEMBER OR AFTER TO DO THIS

ANYWAY.
WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF THE GOVERNOR'S TAX REDUCTION THAT WOULD
AFFECT THIS.
WE'VE ALSO GOT THE BUCS GOING PARALLEL.
AND THE TIME LINE ON THIS IS GOING TO GET EXTENDED SO WHY
NOT?
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, I'VE SAID THIS
BEFORE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE LEGALLY, CAN ASK CLIFF AT THE
END, BUT MY LEGAL ANALYSIS WITH MY ATTORNEY SAYS THAT THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE BROKE THE CONTRACTS, THE INTERLOCAL
AGREEMENT, THE SERVICES AGREEMENT, AND POTENTIALLY 163 BY
NEGOTIATING ON OUR BEHALF.
WE WERE NOT INVOLVED AT ALL.
THIS IS A SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY.
I CAN MAKE A MOTION AT THE END, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO
FORMALLY VOTE TO ASK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO NOT BE INVOLVED
IN THIS AND ASK THE RAYS TO NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH US.
THAT'S MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU.
9:19:54AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND THEN MIRANDA.
9:20:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
VOTING ON SOMETHING NARROWLY TAILORED WHICH SIMPLY SAYS
WE'LL ALLOW OURSELVES MORE TIME.

BY PUSHING IT TOWARDS JULY, IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US PUSHING
TO AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
NOBODY SUFFERS ANY PREJUDICE OF ANY KIND.
THERE'S NO DETRIMENT SUFFERED BY ANYBODY ON THIS.
AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST DECISION THAT WE ARE
GOING TO MAKE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THIS IS HUGE.
NO MATTER HOW YOU SEE IT.
WHETHER YOU THINK IT IS A GOOD DEAL, BAD DEAL, WHETHER YOU
ARE PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO IT, THIS IS THE BIGGEST
DECISION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE.
ALL THE MAKER OF THE MOTION SAYS IS, WE NEED MORE TIME.
AND WHETHER MORE TIME IS AUGUST, WHETHER MORE TIME IS
SEPTEMBER, WE BEGIN THAT ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE NEED MORE
TIME BY MOVING IT TO AUGUST.
I THINK IF WE TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BIG
DISCUSSION ON WHEN TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
WE SHOULD JUST MOVE IT TO AUGUST, AND THEN ASSESS, BECAUSE,
LOOK, THE WAY THINGS ARE MOVING ON THIS, ONE WEEK IS THE
EQUIVALENT POLITICALLY OF ONE YEAR.
THINGS ARE MOVING VERY FAST, VERY LITTLE TIME.
A LOT OF SUBSTANCE, INCLUDING WITH THE TAX, PROSPECTIVE TAX
CHANGES IN FLORIDA.
BY GIVING OURSELVES MORE TIME AND GETTING THAT PROCESS WE, I
THINK -- STRIKE THAT, CONTINUE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS ON THIS

ISSUE.
SO, AGAIN, HAVING MORE TIME WITH A DATE CERTAIN IS TOTALLY
REASONABLE.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
9:21:30AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:21:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I CAN ONLY SAY THIS.
I REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE RAYS BEING HERE.
HE'S ALWAYS TREATED, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, VERY WELL AND VERY
RESPECTFUL OF US AND WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF HIM.
I ASKED HIM THE QUESTION, IS THAT THE FINAL THING YOU CAN
DO?
HE SAID I CAN'T DO ANY BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE RULES.
DO THIS, HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS?
THE PUBLIC, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, OR THE PUBLIC LIKES
IT OR NOT, OR THE SYSTEM LIKES IT OR NOT, THE GOVERNOR AND
THE LEGISLATURE MADE SOME RULES AND REGULATIONS WE'LL HAVE
TO FOLLOW.
FOLLOWING THOSE RULES, ALL I'M SAYING, UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE DEALING WITH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT TAX CUT IS GOING TO BE 35 MILLION, 45
MILLION, 100 MILLION, WHATEVER IT IS, NO ONE HAS TOLD US.
MAYBE THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW, UNLESS
SOMEBODY ELSE KNOWS, I DON'T KNOW.
THE SECOND YEAR IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

HOW CAN WE DISCUSS ANYTHING UNTIL THAT VOTE IS TAKEN?
WHAT I'M SAYING, NO MATTER WHERE YOU MOVE IT TO, IT DOESN'T
MEAN ANYTHING FOR THE VALUE.
I'M SAYING LET'S NOT WASTE TIME.
LET'S PUT IT AFTER THE BALLOT IS TAKEN.
YOU CAN DO IT THE WEEK AFTER.
WE CAN DO THAT WITH TEN DAYS' NOTICE.
WE CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT IS THE DANGER?
THEY TOLD US THEY HAD A JUNE 1st DEADLINE, AM I CORRECT?
BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY WHAT YEAR.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BECAUSE IT PASSED AND THERE WAS NO DEADLINE.
I LEARNED THIS IN THE HOUSING PROJECT.
9:23:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:23:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RESPECTFULLY, BOARD MEMBER VIERA, I DISAGREE
WITH YOU BECAUSE IF WE MOVE IT TO NEXT MONTH, THEN PEOPLE
COME OUT THEN.
AND THEN THEY COME OUT THE NEXT MONTH AND THE NEXT MONTH.
AND EVENTUALLY PEOPLE STOP COMING.
AND THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANT.
I WANT CITIZENRY ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.
TO ME, THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
I BELIEVE WE CAN KEEP CONTINUING IT.
WE ARE EXHAUSTING THE PUBLIC.

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS.
I WILL VOTE TO TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA INSTEAD.
9:23:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN CARLSON.
9:23:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RESPECTFULLY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS.
ONE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS BODY HAS NEVER HEARD THIS
ISSUE.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THIS BODY HAS HEARD THIS ISSUE.
SECOND, THE JUNE 1st DEADLINE WAS CONCERNING MEETING THE
NONBINDING MOU SO THAT THE RAYS' ORGANIZATION COULD GET THE
ALLOCATIONS WHICH THEY SUCCESSFULLY DID FROM TALLAHASSEE IN
THE SPECIAL SESSION BUDGET ITEM.
ON THE OTHER THING, I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
MAYBE HE HAS INFORMATION THAT I DON'T BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ON
COUNCIL FOR A WHILE, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME THAT A
COUNCIL MEMBER HAS REQUESTED TO CONTINUE AN ITEM THAT THIS
BOARD HASN'T GIVEN THEM THAT RESPECT?
9:24:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FROM MY MEMORY, I DON'T REMEMBER ANY AT
ALL, FORWARD OR BACKWARDS.
I'M SURE YOU CAN CONTINUE ANYTHING, BOARD MEMBERS IN THE
PAST HAVE CONTINUED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE OR FORGOTTEN.
I DON'T KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE CONTINUE.
KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE DO OR DO NOT DO FOR THE PUBLIC.
CHANGING THE VOTE FOR THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HURT THE PUBLIC
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
9:24:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S MY POINT.

COUNCILMAN VIERA HIT ON THIS.
THIS IS A DO NO HARM.
AGAIN, THIS IS -- I THINK THIS IS A CONGENIAL BODY THAT
RESPECTS EACH OTHER.
JUST LIKE IN NEW BUSINESS, WHEN WE GIVE NEW BUSINESS, WE
ACKNOWLEDGE FOLKS AND GIVE THEM THE DEFERENCE.
THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT GERMANE TO WHAT
WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
MANY OF THE POINTS THAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MADE
TODAY ARE ABOUT THE ISSUE ITSELF, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT FOR
DISCUSSION WHEN THIS ACTUALLY COMES RIGHTFULLY BEFORE THE
BODY.
THIS MORNING, THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
FOR ONE MONTH.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL PROVIDE A DEFERENCE TO
EACH OTHER ON THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
9:25:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE PROBLEM, AS I MENTIONED AND BOARD MEMBER
HURTAK ALSO MENTIONED, SETS THE EXPECTATION FOR THE MEDIA
AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING IT IN JULY.
FROM EVERYTHING I UNDERSTAND, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE
DELAYED BEYOND THAT.
WHY SET THE EXPECTATION AND HAVE US ALL PREPARE FOR IT AND
THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC SHOW UP AND FANS SHOW UP AND HAVE LOTS
OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO DISCUSS
IT.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, SIMILAR TO WHAT BOARD MEMBER
MIRANDA SAID, I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH KEN
BABBY, THE CEO, AND ALSO SOME WITH PATRICK ZALEWSKI.
ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC.
FRIENDLY, CORDIAL, DESPITE WHAT SOME OF THE FANS TRY TO
CIRCULATE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC.
FOR SOME REASON, THERE'S DIRTY POLITICS HAPPENING AROUND
THIS.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT ARE CONNECTED TO THE
CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
ALSO CONNECTED TO THE FORMER ADMINISTRATION AND MAYORAL
CANDIDATE.
THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD NEGOTIATION CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
CRA AND THE RAYS, THE COUNTY AND THE RAYS, AND THE CITY AND
THE RAYS.
THERE ARE FOUR PARTIES.
ANY KIND OF NEGOTIATION THERE SHOULD BE A BACK AND FORTH.
I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYBODY STOP THE DIRTY POLITICS, STOP
STIRRING UP ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE.
WE WANT A LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION.
EVERY CONVERSATION I HAD WITH MR. BABBY AND MR. ZALEWSKI,
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CORDIAL AND PROFESSIONAL AND I THINK
THEY ARE IN EARNEST TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THEY MET WITH DREW PARK LAST NIGHT.
WITH ALL THE DIRTY POLITICS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, IT'S

GOING TO KILL THE DEAL.
I WOULD JUST ASK EVERYBODY, SET ASIDE YOUR POLITICAL
AMBITIONS.
SET ASIDE YOUR POLITICAL GRIEVANCES.
IF YOU WANT TO GET A DEAL DONE, LET US HAVE A CONVERSATION,
AND WITH THE CRA BOARD, IT NEEDS TO BE DIRECTLY TO THE CRA
BOARD BECAUSE THE MAYOR LEGALLY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE CRA.
9:27:25AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:27:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK IT WAS IN THE TIMES THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT --
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY ARE DISCUSSING IT -- THE IMPACT OF
THE PROPERTY TAX, NEXT WEEK.
IF WE ARE TO CONTINUE THIS TO JULY 23rd AND ANYTHING CAN
HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 30 SOMETHING DAYS, WOULD YOU THEN BE OPEN
TO CONTINUING THIS EVEN FURTHER?
PUTTING IT AS A PLACEHOLDER, THAT'S FINE.
YOU DID SEND A MEMO A WEEK AGO SAYING YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE
THIS.
YOU GAVE A HEADS UP.
MEDIA GOT HOLD OF IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH
OF FOLKS OUT HERE.
I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT BOTH POINTS.
TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.
IF WE TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA, WHEN CAN IT BE PUT BACK ON THE
AGENDA?

AT THE NEXT JULY 23rd MEETING?
SO WHEN IS THE MEETING IN AUGUST, WITHIN THREE WEEKS OR SO.
IF YOU DON'T DO JULY 23rd, IT WOULD BE THE CRA MEETING OF
-- WELL DO WE EVEN HAVE AN AUGUST MEETING?
9:28:29AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, WE DO.
9:28:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AUGUST 20.
9:28:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S SAY WE TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA BUT
WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE COUNTY, SEE WHAT OTHER
INFORMATION COMES UP.
STUFF POPS UP EVERY DAY.
WHAT WOULD BE THE HARM THEN ON JULY 23rd, IF YOU WANTED
TO, MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE AUGUST AGENDA?
DOES IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
IF WE ARE OPEN TO CONTINUING IN JULY IF WE NEED TO OR DON'T
NEED TO, WHAT IS THE HARM?
IT'S SUMMERTIME.
9:28:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S MY POINT.
CONTINUE TO JULY.
NOT RIGHT IN JULY, CONTINUE TO AUGUST.
NO HARM.
LITERALLY A TWO-SECOND DISCUSSION.
9:29:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE WERE TO TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA
TODAY, AND JULY 23rd, HEY, LOOK, THINGS HAVE CHANGED,
THINGS WENT THIS WAY OR THAT, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AUGUST
ONE.

9:29:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE'VE DONE ABOUT TWO ROUNDS OF CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION RIGHT NOW TO CONTINUE TO JULY 23rd.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
WE HAD A SECOND FROM LUIS VIERA.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
WE HAD THE MOTION AND THE SECOND AND WE DID DISCUSSION.
9:29:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
9:29:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
9:29:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
9:29:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
9:29:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
9:29:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
9:29:49AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
9:29:53AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION FAILS WITH HURTAK, CARLSON, MIRANDA, AND
MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
9:30:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS IS WHAT I HAD TO GO
OVER AGAIN THIS WEEK.
THIS IS ALL MY DOCUMENTATION THAT I HAD TO RESEARCH OR THAT
I HAD TO RENEW, REGO OVER, MAKE SURE I HAD MY POINTS BECAUSE
I DIDN'T KNOW TODAY IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION.
IT'S NOT DO NO HARM.
I HATE TO SAY I WASTED THREE HOURS, BUT I WASTED THREE HOURS
PREPARING FOR THIS WHEN IT COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY.
WHAT I DO BELIEVE IS THAT BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO IS

CORRECT.
IF THINGS CHANGE, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY YOU CAN'T PUT IT
BACK ON THE AUGUST AGENDA.
NOTHING TO SAY YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU CAN DO A MOTION JUST LIKE YOU DID.
IT CAN GET ON THE AUGUST AGENDA IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO TALK
ABOUT.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO PREPARE MONTH AFTER MONTH
REMINDING MYSELF WHAT I NEEDED TO SAY EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO KEEP HAVING TO TAKE TIME OFF OF
WORK TO COME OUT HERE TO SPEAK.
SO MY MOTION IS TO TAKE THIS OFF THE AGENDA UNTIL IT'S TIME
THAT IT'S READY TO COME BACK ON.
9:31:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
9:31:03AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK TO
TAKE ITEM NUMBER 9 OFF OF THE AGENDA, SECOND FROM BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:31:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
COMMENT REAL FAST.
MY VOTE IS NOT AGAINST THE RAYS.
I THINK WE DEFINITELY WILL HAVE THEM, BUT IT IS THE SAME
THING THAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR
TO THE PUBLIC, THE MEDIA AND US.
I ALSO HAD TO PREPARE.
IT'S JUST A TIMING ISSUE.
9:31:34AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN -- BOARD

MEMBER.
9:31:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT TO SAY GOOD DETERMINATION.
JUSTICE JACKSON, VERY PROUD OF THAT.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE NEED
TO HAVE A DATE CERTAIN, WHETHER IT'S JULY, WHETHER IT'S
AUGUST, BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY A STRUGGLE
TO HAVE IT PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
WE'RE TAKING IT OFF.
BY KEEPING IT ON, WHETHER IT'S JULY, WHETHER IT'S AUGUST,
THEN POTENTIALLY, I'M NOT FORECASTING THIS, BUT THERE COULD
BE POTENTIALLY A STRUGGLE JUST TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK THAT HAVING IT THERE, AND WHERE WE COULD AS
REASONABLE PEOPLE, IF WE FORESEE, PARTICULARLY THE MAKER OF
THE MOTION, BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, IF HE SEES THAT JUST
CAUSE WOULD EXIST TO CONTINUE THIS TO AUGUST, THEN
REASONABLENESS WOULD DICTATE THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AGAIN, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS.
THANK YOU.
9:32:32AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:32:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE MAYOR PRESENTS
HER BUDGET NEXT MONTH.
THE COUNTY IS HAVING THEIR DISCUSSION ON WHAT THE IMPACT OF
THE PROPERTY TAX BALLOT LEGISLATION OR DECISION COULD BE,
AND WE DON'T KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM OUR
CFO, HAS THE CITY LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS OF HOW THIS COULD

IMPACT THE CITY?
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE NOVEMBER 3rd
BALLOT IN REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY TAX.
SUMMERTIME IS GENERALLY QUIET, MEANING WE'RE NOT HERE AFTER
THE END OF JUNE.
COME BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF JULY.
THE MAYOR COMES WITH A BUDGET SOON AFTER.
AND WE'LL SEE.
AT THE JULY CRA, WE'LL HAVE I THINK A LITTLE MORE
INFORMATION AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THERE OF HOW WE MOVE
FORWARD.
IF IT IS AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, WHATEVER, THE OPPORTUNITY IS
THERE.
9:33:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN CLENDENIN.
9:33:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, YOU DON'T HAVE AN
ELECTION.
ELECTION DAY.
PEOPLE RUN FOR OFFICE.
VOTE FOR THE ONE YOU THINK IS BEST QUALIFIED.
SAME THING HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
WE DON'T HAVE NO CANDIDATES RUNNING UNTIL AFTER THAT VOTE IS
TAKEN, WHETHER DO SOMETHING, AD VALOREM TAX OR NOT.
HOW CAN I VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING
TO HAPPEN?

THAT'S THE TEXT OF IT.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
9:33:52AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:33:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION,
RATHER THAN REMOVE THIS FROM THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE TO AUGUST 20, 2026.
AND THAT SHOULD SATISFY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S CONCERN WITH
ALL THESE THINGS.
9:34:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S FAIR BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN TWO
MONTHS AND EVERYTHING THAT I SAID, LET THE COUNTY DO THE DUE
DILIGENCE WITH THE NUMBERS.
LET US WITH OUR CFO AND OUR FINANCE FOLKS, AND THEN WE'LL
SEE.
THIS MIGHT HAPPEN AGAIN IN AUGUST, BUT AUGUST IS FAIR.
I THINK MORE THAN TWO MONTHS.
9:34:26AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:34:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I DON'T OPPOSE MOVING IT FORWARD TO AUGUST IF WE TALK ABOUT
IT IN JULY.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THINGS -- WE DON'T MAKE THIS AGENDA.
THE STAFF DOES.
SO WE COULD PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM US.
STAFF PUTS STUFF ON THE AGENDA ALL THE TIME AND DOESN'T ASK
US.

THAT'S THEIR JOB.
I DON'T THINK THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT THAT
IT COULDN'T GET ON THE AGENDA.
I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE AUGUST BECAUSE I REALLY
BELIEVE WE BRING IT BACK WHEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WHEREVER THAT LANDS.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO END UP IN AUGUST WITH ME HAVING TO DO
ALL THE PREP AND US KEEP KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
9:35:17AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
YOU ALL ARE KILLING ME.
9:35:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD RATHER PULL IT OFF THE AGENDA
ALTOGETHER AND THEN PUT IT BACK ON IN JULY.
IF IT'S IN AUGUST, THEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT IN
JULY.
AT LEAST THE PROBLEM OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN JULY ISN'T
GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MOVE IT.
I MENTIONED DIRTY POLITICS A MINUTE AGO.
THREE OF THE SPORTS AUTHORITY MEMBERS GOT A THREATENING
LETTER FROM A LAWYER YESTERDAY.
AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CAME FROM THE RAYS.
IF WE FIND OUT THAT IT WAS, I'M GOING TO FIGHT TO KEEP IT
OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF DIRTY
POLITICS THE PUBLIC WANTS.
9:35:57AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TAKE IT OFF

THE AGENDA.
AND THEN A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN,
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
FOR THE AUGUST MEETING.
WE HAD A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN TO PUT
ON THE AUGUST 20, 2026 AGENDA.
9:36:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY A HOUSE IN
NOVEMBER, AND YOU'RE MAKING $10,000 A MONTH AND YOU KNOW
THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAKING $8500 A MONTH AND YOU CAN'T
PAY FOR THE HOUSE, ARE YOU STILL GOING TO BUY THE HOUSE?
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL THE ELECTION IS HELD IN NOVEMBER AND PUT
IT ON THE BALLOT SO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE AN AD VALOREM DECREASE BY 5%,
10% -- I GUARANTEE YOU OVER 35, $40 MILLION THE FIRST YEAR.
THAT'S MY CALCULATION.
I'M NOT A GENIUS AT MATH.
I JUST KNOW IT BETTER THAN MOST.
REMEMBER WHAT I SAID.
35 TO 45 THE FIRST YEAR.
9:37:24AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CLERK, CAN YOU, ONE, REMIND US WHAT WE ARE
VOTING ON AND THEN A ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:37:32AM >>THE CLERK:
THIS IS THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEM 9 TO AUGUST 20.
9:37:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.

9:37:39AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
9:37:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
9:37:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
BECAUSE I WANT TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THE COUNTY
AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS FROM NOW TO THEN.
THIS VERY WELL COULD BE CONTINUED FURTHER.
THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND I WANT TO HEAR
IT.
YES.
9:37:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, BECAUSE WE CAN PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA
IN JULY IF WE NEED TO.
9:38:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
9:38:04AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
9:38:05AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIES WITH MIRANDA AND HURTAK VOTING
NO.
9:38:13AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO EASY.
[ LAUGHTER ]
GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
DIRECTOR McCRAY, WE'RE BACK TO YOU.
9:38:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:38:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK TO
APPROVE THE AGENDA.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:38:37AM >> AYE.

9:38:37AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHTY.
WE ARE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ATTORNEY SHEPARD, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US OUR RULES OF
PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:38:50AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YES, MA'AM.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON AN ITEM.
HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS
PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS SUCH TIME FRAME IS MODIFIED
BY A VOTE OF THE CRA BOARD.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
PERSONAL ATTACKS.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA'S RULES MAY BE RULED
OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S
CRA MEETING.

FINALLY, THE CRA BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD
REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL RULES AS REVISED JUNE 6, 2024, ARE NOW IN
EFFECT FOR THE CRA BOARD UNLESS OTHERWISE EXEMPTED OR
OVERRIDDEN BY CRA BOARD BYLAWS.
9:39:59AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHEPARD.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE LINE UP
AGAINST THE WALL.
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THAT ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ONLINE.
WE WILL START WITH THEM AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THOSE THAT WANT
TO SPEAK.
ARE THEY ON?
MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ON?
YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THERE WE ARE.
9:40:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I WANT TO START OFF FIRST BY RECOGNIZING COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON AND ALL THE WORK THAT SHE DID.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TODAY IS BECAUSE OF HER.
IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, I WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THE
TECHNOLOGY CENTER.
I WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER RELATED TO
THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE STRONGEST RETURNS OF INVESTMENT IN THE REGION.
EVERY ONE DOLLAR INVESTED GENERATES 10 TO 19 DOLLARS IN
LONG-TERM SOCIAL IMPACT.
AT 256,000 -- OUR CENTER PRODUCES ANYWHERE FROM 2.8 MILLION
TO 4 MILLION IN MEASURABLE COMMUNITY IMPACT.
DRIVEN BY HIGHER EMPLOYMENT, NEW BUSINESS CREATION,
INCREASED HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND REDUCED CRIME.
AND STORM TAX REVENUE.
EACH FUNDING STREAM PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN PRODUCING THAT
IMPACT, MULTIPLIES EVERY YEAR, LASTING ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND
COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION.
OUR OPERATION OPERATES AS -- AT ONE-THIRD THE COST BECAUSE
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL OPERATE 65% OF THE BUSINESS
REDUCING PERSONNEL.
SOME OF THE SOURCES OF INCOME RELATED TO OUR PROJECT.
THE TECH COMPANY LOOKING AT $65,000.
PROGRAMS WILL BE A.I., CERTIFICATION, AND WORKFORCE.
THE ESTIMATED IS ANYWHERE FROM 780,000 TO 1 MILLION.
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS 90,000.
PROGRAM INCLUDE CI INVESTMENT, FINANCIAL LITERACY, SMALL
BUSINESS SUPPORT.
THE OTHER OI IS ANYWHERE FROM 1 MILLION TO 1.9 MILLION.
NEXT IS MONEY COMING FROM GRANTS AND FOUNDATIONS AND
CORPORATIONS WHICH WILL BE 70,000.
THE PROGRAMS WILL BE DIGITAL EQUITY, ENTREPRENEURSHIP,

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
THE ESTIMATED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE -- ESTIMATED ROI IS
ANYWHERE FROM 840 TO $1 MILLION.
CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AND I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN
HENDERSON FOR ALL THAT SHE DOES.
GUESS WHAT, COUNCILWOMAN, YOUR DREAM LIVES ON IN WEST TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
9:43:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
WE HAVE ONE MORE ONLINE SPEAKER.
9:43:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME.
9:43:31AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES, WE CAN.
9:43:32AM >> THIS IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE
BUDGET COMMITTEE, THE CITIZENS BUDGET COMMITTEE HAS ASKED
COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD TO PUT THE RAYS QUESTION BEFORE
THE VOTERS.
IT SHOULD NOT BE MADE BY YOU GUYS BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY
OF THE SITUATION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING ABOUT BOARDS AND
COMMITTEES AND THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY THAT WE HAVE WITH
THAT.
WE HAD A VRB MEETING CANCELED THIS MONTH BECAUSE WE DID NOT
HAVE A QUORUM.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE LITTLE TO NO MECHANISMS TO FIRE, QUOTE,

UNQUOTE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOBS.
IF PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP, THEN CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE
A WAY TO LET THOSE FOLKS GO AND PUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO
ACTUALLY WANT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY IN THE POSITIONS.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THESE DIFFERENT
COMMITTEES.
I COUNTED THIS MORNING, WE'VE HAD 41 POSTS ON Facebook
FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA SINCE JUNE 1st.
WE HAD ANOTHER 12 POSTS ON NEXT-DOOR.
SINCE THE FIRST OF THE MONTH.
AND IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, NOT ONE POST ABOUT ANY
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THESE COMMITTEES
ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
THE BOARDS NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
NINE WOULD BE IDEAL, TWO FOR THE MAYOR AND ONE FOR EACH
COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND CONFIRMATIONS THEY SHOULD BE RENEWED EVERY ONE TO TWO
YEARS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOMEBODY CAN'T BE RENEWED FOR 15
YEARS IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR THIS WEEK.
BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING.
WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THE VRB NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER, I

HAD TO CALL SOMEBODY IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR CONTACT THE
CLERK'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD APPLY IF
THEY WANT THE POSITION.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT AND IT SHOULD BE CONSTANT, AND IT
SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY IF YOU EXPECT THEM TO
ACTUALLY VOLUNTEER.
IT SHOULDN'T BE A HIDDEN PROCESS THAT NOBODY CAN FIND OUT
ABOUT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE WHEN IT GOES ON YOUR AGENDA.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
9:45:56AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER?
NEXT SPEAKER IN PERSON.
ALSO, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR CELL PHONES ARE SILENCED.
9:46:13AM >> JULIE MAGILL.
I'M COMING TO YOU TODAY WITH A SAD STORY.
HEARTBREAKING, REALLY.
I PROVIDED YOU COPIES OF E-MAILS BETWEEN ME, DEBRA RADKE,
AND MAYOR CASTOR.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE CITY OF TAMPA TORE
DOWN A 99-YEAR-OLD LADY'S HOUSE.
THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1930.
IT SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH HISTORICAL REVIEW.
MAGICALLY THAT HAPPENED LIKE ONE DAY.

AS CONTRACTOR, WE CAN'T PUT A PERGOLA UP IN AN HISTORICAL
HOUSE WITHOUT IT TAKING WEEKS.
A FRIEND OF MINE OVER THERE WORKING ON THE HOUSE AFTER THIS
99-YEAR-OLD LADY FELL, SHE HAD TO GO TO REHAB.
WHILE IN REHAB, WORKER WAS WORKING ON THE HOUSE.
BASICALLY REPLACE FLOORING, MAYBE PANELING, GET THE HOUSE
NICE FOR HER TO MOVE BACK IN.
WHILE HE WAS THERE, CODE ENFORCEMENT SLAPPED A VIOLATION ON
THE BOARD AT THE SAME TIME THE CITY SLAPPED A VACATE ORDER
ON THE DOOR.
I CALLED THE CITY WONDERING WHY, THEY SAID ACCUMULATIONS IN
THE YARD.
THIS WAS THE FLOORING HE HAD TAKEN OUT AND INTENDED TO PUT
ON A DUMP TRAILER AND TAKE AWAY.
THAT CODE VIOLATION WENT AWAY.
THE VACATE ORDER DID NOT.
I MET THEM OUT THERE, AND AS A CONTRACTOR I WALKED THE HOUSE
AND SAID THIS ISN'T WORSE THAN ANY OTHER HOUSE IN THE AREA
THAT INVESTORS COME IN AND REHAB.
THEY SAID, YEAH, THERE ARE OPTIONS.
HAVE THEM ON VIDEO AND THEY WERE AWARE THEY WERE BEING
VIDEOED.
IN THE MEANTIME, THERE WERE NEGOTIATIONS BACK AND FORTH.
OLD LADY COULDN'T COME UP WITH FUNDING TO FINISH SOME OF THE
ITEMS THAT THEY WANTED FINISHED THAT THEY SAID WERE

DANGEROUS, WHICH IN MY OPINION WERE NOT.
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO INTO THAT.
WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS SHE WAS IN REHAB WHEN THEY SLAPPED
THE NOTICE TO VACATE ON THE DOOR.
SHE NEVER SAW THAT.
THE CITY IS GOING TO ARGUE THAT THEY DID ALL THE NOTICING
CORRECTLY, HOWEVER, WITH THE E-MAILS BETWEEN ME AND THE CITY
EXPLAINING THAT SHE HAD HER BELONGINGS IN THERE, INCLUDING
HER HUSBAND AND HER SON'S ASHES, ANTIQUES, CLOTHING, DISHES,
I EXPRESSLY TOLD THEM, PLEASE, BEFORE YOU DEMO THIS HOUSE,
LET'S NEGOTIATE THIS.
I TRIED TO SELL IT FOR HER.
COULDN'T DO THAT.
$80,000 REVERSE MORTGAGE ON IT.
IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT THAT I GOT A CALL LAST WEEK FROM
THE SAME WORKER THAT WAS THERE AND HE SAYS THE HOUSE IS
GONE.
I'M LIKE WHAT?
THE HOUSE IS GONE.
SHE'S THINKING SHE'S GOING TO MOVE BACK INTO HER HOUSE.
HER FAMILY HASN'T TOLD HER BECAUSE SHE'S 99 YEARS OLD.
THEY ARE AFRAID IT WILL WRECK HER EMOTIONALLY.
COMMON SENSE VERSUS COMPASSION.
I BEGGED FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEY COULDN'T GIVE
IT TO US FOR THIS 99-YEAR-OLD WOMAN.

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HOUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE
REPAIRED AND TORN DOWN.
I THINK THIS WAS FAST TRACKED.
I CAN'T REALLY EXPRESS WHY THE CITY WOULD DO THIS TO HER.
WE NEED TO THINK DESPERATELY ABOUT THE NEXT TIME THIS
HAPPENS TO AN OLDER PERSON THAT MIGHT NOT BE HOME WHEN THEY
PUT A VACATE ORDER ON THEIR HOME.
THANK YOU.
9:49:20AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:49:29AM >> UHURU, MENTESNOT.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
FREEDOM AND SHOULD NEVER LET ANYONE OUTSMART US.
CITY COUNCIL OUTSMART US EVERY DAY.
THE RULES OF PROCEDURE MANUAL.
IF YOU NOTICE IN THE MANUAL, IT DON'T HAVE THE READING OF
THE RULES OF DECORUM BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE RULES OF DECORUM
IS ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
THEY ARE ALREADY KNOW THAT.
SO THEY WON'T PUT IT IN WRITING.
BUT IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE MANUAL, SAYS SHALL, MUST BE
DONE IN THIS ORDER.
CAN YOU START MY TIME OVER?
LOT OF TALKING GOING ON IN THIS AREA.

CAN'T CONCENTRATE.
9:50:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
PLEASE START HIS TIME OVER.
9:50:18AM >> THAT'S HOW THEY OUTSMART THE AFRICAN PEOPLE.
USE THE RULES OF DECORUM, WEAPONIZE IN A CERTAIN WAY, USED
SELECTIVELY AGAINST ME AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO PUT YOU IN
JAIL, TO INCARCERATE YOU AND DO OTHER THINGS THAT'S
NEGATIVE, THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THAT'S ILLEGAL, THAT'S
UNDEMOCRATIC.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS CITY
COUNCIL AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFRICAN PEOPLE, THE JACKSON
HOUSE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THEY DO NOTHING FOR US ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
CITY BEEN HERE SINCE 1855, AIN'T GOT NOTHING OUT OF IT.
30, 35 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION AND WE AIN'T GOT NOTHING
OUT OF IT.
26% OF THE POPULATION, GET NOTHING OUT OF IT.
AND KEEP BLACK PEOPLE TALKING LIKE WE'RE DUMMIES, LIKE WE
DRUNK AND HOWL ALL THE TIME.
THEY IN HERE TALKING THIS MORNING ABOUT GWEN HENDERSON.
GWEN HENDERSON, PERRY HARVEY, GWEN MILLER, AND ALL THE REST
OF THEM AIN'T DID NOTHING FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
AND THEY CAN'T SHOW IT TO YOU ON PAPER.
THEY CAN'T SAY, HEY, YOU HAD AN INCREASE IN THIS OR DECREASE
IN CRIME OR DECREASE IN ILLITERACY OR ANYTHING.
THEY CAN'T SHOW YOU NOTHING ON PAPER, BUT THEY WANT AFRICAN

PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SING AND DANCE AND SHUCK AND WEAVE
AND BOW HEADS AND PRAY TO FAKE GODS AND PRAY TO GOD THAT IS
A MAN INSTEAD OF A GOD THAT IS WOMAN.
THEY WANT US TO DO ALL KIND OF STUPIDNESS.
CELEBRATE JUNETEENTH AND CELEBRATE MARTIN LUTHER KING AND
MARTIN LUTHER KOON AND MALCOLM X AND STUPIDNESS THAT MAKES
ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO SENSE.
NONE.
WE WANT SOME RESULTS FROM THE CITY.
WE'RE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
WE WANT 26% OF THIS BUDGET RETROACTIVELY TO 1855.
GO AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS, $3
MILLION PER AFRICAN MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD THAT RESIDES IN
THIS CITY.
TALKING ABOUT THE RAYS AND THE BUCCANEERS AND OTHER STUFF
AND GO THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT IT LOOK LIKE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
YOU ALL GOT TRICKS FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
AND THE TRICKS CAUSES PAIN AND SUFFERING.
LET ME TELL YOU, THE MAN RIGHT HERE THAT ARREST ME, RULES OF
DECORUM THAT SAY YOU CAN'T CALL SOMEONE BY NAME.
THE MAN RIGHT THERE, THE MAN, WOMAN, WHATSOEVER WANT TO
CALL, HAD THE RIGHT TO DO SO, HAD ME REPHRASE, SPENT SIX
DAYS IN JAIL INCARCERATED, NO FOOD.

SPENT ANOTHER SIX DAYS WITH IV STUCK IN MY ARM BECAUSE THAT
IS THE PAIN AND SUFFERING, THE HUMILIATION AND HATE THAT
WHITE FOLKS GOT FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THIS.
I WANT TO SEND A SHOUT-OUT TO KARMELO ANTHONY AND SHOWS THE
SAME THING AS HIM.
WHITE PEOPLE APPROACH YOU BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN
APPROACH YOU WHEN THEY HAVE NO PROBABLE CAUSE.
HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN APPROACHING THAT YOUNG MAN IN THE
FIRST PLACE.
NOW HE'S DOING 35 YEARS IN PRISON BECAUSE OF WHITE FOLKS
LIKE YOU, RACIST PIECE OF --
9:53:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE, WE CAN HEAR EVERYTHING UP
HERE.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF.
SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO HEAR THAT AS
WELL.
NEXT SPEAKER, IF YOU START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES.
9:53:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I'M HERE TODAY TO UNDERSTAND -- TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW
LAND IS BEING OBTAINED.
HOW LAND IS GETTING TAKEN FROM PEOPLE, HOW LAND THAT IS

PROTECTED IS ALLOWED TO BE TAKEN.
HAZEL HENDERSON, 99 YEARS OLD.
COME ON.
THE COLON CEMETERY, HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT.
THAT'S SACRED GROUNDS.
THAT'S A CEMETERY.
WHERE IS THE MORALS?
WHERE IS THE CARE?
NOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DOMINO EFFECT?
ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE ALL THE PROPERTIES LIKE THIS?
I'LL START WITH MINE.
I'M A BIG ADVOCATE, BECAUSE NOT ONE THING, NOT ONE THING HAS
BEEN DONE FOR ME.
I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOMEONE THAT WE'RE SORRY.
WE'RE GOING TO LEARN FROM THAT MISTAKE, AND WE'RE FOR THE
FUTURE NOT GOING TO DO THAT PROJECT LIKE THAT AGAIN.
WE LEARNED FROM WHAT WE DID THERE AND FUTURE WE'RE NOT GOING
TO DO IT AGAIN.
THEY UPROOTED 23 ACRES OF PROTECTED MANGROVES WETLAND.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE, THIS IS WHAT THEY TOOK.
WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU?
IT IS IN A YELLOW LINED AREA.
YOU KNOW WHAT YELLOW LINED LAND IS, HISTORIC.
YOU CANNOT TOUCH IT.
YOU HAVE TO BE APPROVED.

YOU CANNOT.
THIS IS A HISTORIC ROAD, PRESCOTT.
YOU SEE THIS.
THAT'S MY HOUSE, RIGHT THERE.
WETLANDS, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
MY HOUSE.
MY HOUSE IS RIGHT THERE.
THIS RIGHT HERE, THEY TOOK FOR APARTMENTS.
THEY PROJECTED TO THE CITY THIS.
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS WITH BLOCKING TWO CHAMBERS?
THIS IS ALL CEMENT.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD CEMENT?
YOU CAN'T GET WATER AROUND IT.
IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHERE IS IT GOING?
TO ME.
TO ME AND THE NEIGHBORS.
LOOK WHAT THEY WROTE.
THE SYSTEM IS UNDERSIZED, DESIGN DEFECT, ENGINEERS ARE
LIABLE.
WHO IS GOING TO PUT THIS ON?
THEY REROUTED THE WATER IN 2020 TO COME RIGHT TO MY HOUSE.
NOW I'M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO BE EVEN BUILT.
EVERYBODY AROUND ME, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO?
FLOOD ME.

THIS WAS IDALIA, THIS WAS DEBBY, HELENE, 6.77 FEET OF
WASTEWATER AND SURGE.
AND THESE WERE JUST WATER.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY SURGE.
LOOK, 15 MINUTES OF RAIN.
15 MINUTES OF RAIN, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO MY HOUSE JUST
LAST WEEK.
9:56:50AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
9:56:52AM >> ANOTHER THING, THIS IS A PARK AND RECREATION PERSON, WHY
IS HE OUT ON WESTSHORE WITH HIS TRUCK.
9:57:02AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NEXT SPEAKER, THREE MINUTES, START WITH YOUR
NAME.
9:57:07AM >> PLEASE DILIGENTLY DO SOMETHING.
9:57:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARITZA ASTORQUIZA.
CHAIR OF DREW PARK CAC.
WE MET YESTERDAY WITH KEN BABBY WHO GAVE US A PRESENTATION.
AND WE DO HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR HIM TO COME AT LEAST ONE
MORE TIME.
WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THERE IS A LOT WE DON'T KNOW.
AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGING
EVERY DAY.
THERE ARE SOME NOTES AND I'LL GO FAST, OF COURSE, I ONLY
HAVE TWO AND A HALF MINUTES LEFT.
WE WANT TO BE PROTECTED FROM DISPLACEMENT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO EMINENT DOMAIN.
DON'T SAY, OH, IT WON'T HAPPEN.
AIRPORT ALREADY TOOK 30% OF HOURS.
SOME BUSINESSES NEVER REOPENED, SOME WENT OUT OF STATE, OUT
OF COUNTY AND AFFECTED THE EXISTING BUSINESSES BECAUSE WE
ARE FEEDERS TO EACH OTHER AND THEY LOST A LOT OF CLIENTELE.
SOME OF THOSE HAD TO ACTUALLY CLOSED.
IT DOES HAPPEN.
I ALSO DID FIND OUT THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY
HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE PROJECT.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
IN FACT, YOU GUYS GAVE US ALL THE MANDATES OF 30%, YET THE
HOUSING IS NOT GOING THERE.
THE TROP, THE RAYS, IT WAS 1200 UNITS THAT WERE ASKED IN
THEIR AGREEMENT, AND WHATEVER IS COMING IN HERE IS GOING
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
YOUR DUTY IS TO PROTECT CRA.
DREW PARK IS THE PRIMARY AFFECTED HERE.
WE NEED YOU GUYS TO STEP UP.
YOU'RE NOT AT THE TABLE.
I KEEP HEARING COUNTY AND CITY.
CITY IS CONTRACTED.
YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT NEED TO PROTECT US.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT BEING ASKED AT THE TABLE, FIGURE IT OUT AND
PROTECT US.

I'M TELLING YOU AGAIN, WE, DREW PARK, IS THE MAIN PROBLEM --
NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM, GOSH, YEAH, SOMEBODY ELSE THE MAIN
PROBLEM, BUT WE ARE THE MAIN, MOSTLY DIRECTLY AFFECTED CRA.
WATCH OUT FOR US.
DON'T TOUCH OUR TIF.
ANYTHING THAT ENDS AT 2034, HOPEFULLY EVEN IF IT IS A PENNY
DOES NOT GO TO THE PROJECT.
WHY?
BECAUSE THIS WILL PREVENT SLOW-WALKING PROJECTS.
IT HELPS PREVENT THAT, WHICH WE KNOW HAPPENS.
WE ACTUALLY NEED TO BE EXTENDED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED
MORE MONEY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE.
WE NEED SEATS AT THE TABLE.
THIS HOME RULE, THIS HOME RULE, IF THEY GET ANY TIF, 70%
GOES TO US, 30% GOES TO THEM.
THEY ARE IN DREW PARK RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE PART OF OUR CRA.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M AGAINST OR FOR IT, BUT WE ARE ADVOCATES
FOR THE DREW PARK CRA.
NO DISBANDMENT OF THE CRA, OF OUR DREW PARK CRA FOR ANY --
NO.
WE CONTINUE.
THANK YOU.
10:00:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.

START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:00:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MELANIE ALVAREZ.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA NUMBER 9.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN MOVED, BUT SINCE I DID PREPARE LIKE
COUNCILWOMAN -- I WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON IT.
I THINK THE MOST CRITICAL THING FOR THIS BOARD TO
UNDERSTAND, I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH THE LENS OF CONSIDERATION
THAT EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE CRA IS A
DOLLAR THAT CAN'T BE USED ON INFRASTRUCTURE.
THOSE INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE REALLY CRITICAL AT A
TIME WHEN THINGS LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY AND TAX RELIEF ARE ON
THE TABLE.
WHILE THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS UNBINDING AT THIS
TIME, IT DOES LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR A PROJECT THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY EXPOSE TAMPA TAXPAYERS TO SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL
RISK, LONG-TERM DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
WE'RE IN A TIME PERIOD WHERE MANY FAMILIES RIGHT NOW ARE
STRUGGLING TO AFFORD EVERYDAY LIFE.
WE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE TODAY HAVING CONCERNS OF THIS NATURE
RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK WITH THESE RISING COSTS, WE REALLY NEED TO BE

ESPECIALLY CAUTIOUS ABOUT COMMITTING PUBLIC RESOURCES --
PUBLIC RESOURCES TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
STUDIES FROM ECONOMISTS ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, THIS
IS NOT A BLUE OR A RED ISSUE.
THESE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT PUBLICLY FUNDED STADIUM
PROJECTS RARELY DELIVER ECONOMIC RETURNS THAT ARE PROMISED.
AND IT EXPOSES TAXPAYERS TO FINANCIAL RISK IN A
PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
IT REALLY IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE EXPECTED RETURN ON
INVESTMENT IS CLEARLY DEFINED.
AND NEGOTIATIONS ARE TRANSPARENT AND NOT HAPPENING BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS.
THAT THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES IN PLACE SHOULD THE
RETURN INVESTMENT NOT HAPPEN THE WAY THAT THE RAYS PROPOSE
IT WILL.
IN THIS CASE, SIGNIFICANT QUESTIONS STILL REMAIN UNANSWERED.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE COVERED THAT IN YOUR EARLIER
DISCUSSION.
THERE'S NO FINALIZED SITE PLANS FOR THE PROPOSED MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS A REAL
CONCERN.
THERE'S LIMITED DETAILS REGARDING THE OVERSIGHT AND
PERFORMANCE MEASURES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC
DOLLARS ARE NOT BEING USED FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT?
THERE IS A REAL LACK OF CLARITY ABOUT HOW PUBLIC SPENDING

WOULD BE TRACKED AND EVALUATED OVER TIME.
I REALLY URGE THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA TO CAREFULLY WEIGH THE
COSTS AND RISKS AGAINST THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS AND TO VOTE
NO ON COMMITTING PUBLIC DOLLARS TO THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
10:03:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:03:18AM >> RON WEAVER.
I THINK THIS MORNING PERHAPS, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THIS
TO KEEP LISTENING AND TO KEEP WORKING, TO KEEP TRYING, TO
KEEP TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE THESE 11,900
PERMANENT JOBS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF REPLACING.
IF A.I. IS REPLACING 15% OF ALL JOBS, THESE 11,900 JOBS AND
39,000 CONSTRUCTION JOBS, WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF GETTING IN
THIS COMMUNITY EXPECT THIS.
PROPERTY TAXES MAY NOT GO DOWN.
IT TAKES A 60% VOTE.
AND EVEN IF THEY GO DOWN, ESSENTIAL SERVICES -- SUBSTITUTE
SALES TAXES.
AND GUESS WHAT, THE CIT IS ONE HALF CENT OF A SALES TAX.
MANY OF THE SALES TAX GO UP TO COMPENSATE.
YOU'LL GET MORE.
AND 25% OF ALL SALES TAXES ARE PAID BY TOURISTS.
SO YOU'LL END UP WITH A BETTER FINANCIAL STRUCTURE EVEN IF

PROPERTY TAXES GO DOWN, IF 60% OF THE VOTERS WANT THEM TO GO
DOWN.
I THINK YOU CAN TRUST THAT THE COUNTY AND, QUITE FRANKLY,
YOUR OWN CITY STAFF IS NEGOTIATING OBVIOUSLY A HARD DEAL.
I'M JUST A CITIZEN HERE.
I DON'T REPRESENT ANYBODY IN THIS FIGHT EXCEPT I AM A
CITIZEN AND FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS I'VE SPOKEN HERE FOR
TRANSPORTATION AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I WENT TO THE MEETING LAST NIGHT IN DREW PARK.
AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN THE 11 GOOD QUESTIONS FROM THE
CRA THAT I HEARD THE DEVELOPER SAY, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON
THAT.
YES, WE'LL PROVIDE AMPLE PARKING.
YES, WE'LL LISTEN TO YOU ON THAT TIF, THE HOME RULE TIF.
YES, WE'LL LISTEN TO YOU ON WHAT IT TAKES IN DREW PARK.
YES, WE LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF DREW PARK AND
WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THEM.
THAT MEANS THAT YOUR TEAM IN THE CITY, AND THE COUNTY, ARE
NEGOTIATING A TOUGH DEAL, THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE PERSONALLY
TO PARTICIPATE MORE IN IT.
I THINK YOU NEED TO TRUST THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY STAFF
ARE WORKING HARD.
LAST NIGHT, THERE WAS A WILLINGNESS TO NEGOTIATE.
THE FACT THEY SAID A WEEK OR TWO AGO TO PLEASE STOP PILING
ON AND REQUIRING MORE, THAT'S LIKE GOING TO A TOY STORE WITH

YOUR KIDS.
THEY BRING TEN TOYS EACH, YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE
THREE EACH AND DON'T ALL OF YOU BRING IN TEN TOYS EACH.
LOVE YA.
LOVE YA, BUT YOU GOT TO FIND A WAY TO TRUST YOUR COUNTY,
TRUST YOUR CITY STAFF.
THEY ARE WORKING HARD ON YOUR BEHALF.
HAVEN'T SEEN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ANY DIRTY POLITICS.
ALL I'VE SEEN ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TRYING TO UNIFY THE
COMMUNITY, TO GET JOBS WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF GETTING AND
TO USE THE BEST FORMAT OF TAXES TO DO SO AND TO CREATE A TIF
THAT WILL CREATE 10, 20, OR 30 TIMES MORE TAXES.
AND FROM THAT, WE WON'T GET THOSE ADDITIONAL TAXES IN DREW
PARK UNLESS WE DO THIS BASEBALL AND SAVE 65 MILLION DOLLARS'
WORTH OF MAINTENANCE OF HC.
PLEASE SAVE HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE.
10:05:56AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
COMMENT, PLEASE STAND UP AGAINST THE WALL SO WE KNOW HOW
MANY WE HAVE LEFT.
10:06:08AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS MARY FUSSELL.
I'VE BEEN A TAMPA RESIDENT FOR 52 YEARS, FORMER TEACHER,

30-YEAR BUSINESS OWNER.
I FIND MY JOY NOW IN MILLENNIUM DOCENTING, TOURING STUDENTS
AND STARTING WITH PRESCHOOLERS THROUGH SEVERAL MUSEUMS.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON THE CITY'S COMPLICITY, ACQUIESCENCE IN
ALLOWING RAYMOND JAMES STUDIO TO BE MONETIZED FOR TWO
EVENINGS BY A KNOWN ANTI-SEMITE, KANYE WEST.
MY MUSEUM TRAINING, COUPLED WITH A BASIC RECALL OF HISTORY
HAS TAUGHT ME THE IMPORTANCE OF AND THE OBLIGATION TO NOT
SIMPLY STAND BY, TO NOT BE A BY-STANDER.
I CHOOSE NOT TO REMAIN SILENT WHEN A NAZI PROPONENT IS
INVITED TO PERFORM IN THE OPEN AND AT SUCH A SCALE IN MY
CITY.
I AM AWARE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT CONTROL THE
TSA.
I'M ALSO AWARE AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE INFLUENCE.
YOU HAVE GREAT INFLUENCE OVER TSA VIA YOUR APPOINTMENTS,
YOUR FINANCIAL APPROVAL, AND YOUR RELATIONSHIPS.
THESE TWO UPCOMING JUNE PERFORMANCES ARE UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE
A FAIT ACCOMPLI.
OUR GOVERNOR HAS EVEN URGED THEIR CANCELLATION.
THIS IS PR THAT TAMPA DOES NOT NEED.
BUT HERE WE ARE.
CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED.
PROFITS ARE EXPECTED.
BOTH FOR THE ANTI-SEMITE AND TSA ALIKE.

BUT BEFORE TSA TAKES ITS SHARE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TAMPA
BAY BUCCANEERS ARE FIRST IN LINE TO PROFIT, WHICH IS ALSO
ASTOUNDING TO ME.
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE BEST-EVER EXAMPLE OF AN UNFORCED
ERROR.
THIS SANCTIONING BY WAY OF RENTING ONE OF TAMPA'S BIGGEST
ASSETS TO A NAZI PROPONENT BEGS SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
WAS TSA'S SOLE CONSIDERATION PROFIT?
WAS TSA REALLY IGNORANT AS TO THIS PERFORMER'S RECENT AND
WELL-KNOWN HISTORY?
WAS THERE ACTUALLY NO VETTING IN THIS REGARD?
MIGHT A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE OCCUR IN THE FUTURE?
ARE THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THESE SHOWS?
KANYE WEST LYRICS AND MERCHANDISE CONTAIN REPRESENTATION,
NARRATIVES, AND ENDORSEMENT OF MISOGYNY AND HATRED OF JEWS.
THE TWO JEWISH FEDERATIONS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND
ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE TRACK INSTANCES OF ANTI-SEMITIC
VIOLENCE AND OTHER ACTS AGAINST JEWS.
FACTS ARE FACTS.
THESE ARE DESPICABLE EPISODES ARE ALIVE AND WELL AND
HAPPENING.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO WILL ARGUE FREE SPEECH, FIRST AMENDMENT,
CANCEL CULTURE.
10:09:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:09:12AM >> HOSTING A PROUD ANTI-SEMITE KANYE WEST IN OUR CITY IS A
BLACK EYE.
10:09:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
NEXT SPEAKER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:09:30AM >> HI.
MY NAME IS JANET HAMMER.
I LIVE NEARBY.
I LIVE IN ST. PETERSBURG AND I CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENS IN
TAMPA TO BE VERY CLOSELY RELATED TO MY LIFE AND WELL-BEING
AS A CITIZEN IN ST. PETERSBURG.
YOU JUST HEARD VERY POWERFUL WORDS ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT
TSA'S DECISION TO ALLOW THE CONCERTS BY KANYE WEST AT
RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM, AND I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH ALL
OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE
PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
I AM HERE TODAY TO CONTINUE ON THIS POINT, AND I WANT TO
SHARE WITH YOU A LETTER THAT I DID SEND.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.
I WRITE TO YOU TODAY WITH A PROFOUND CONCERN REGARDING THE
SCHEDULED PERFORMANCES OF KANYE WEST ON JUNE 26 AND 28.
I AND A LARGER JEWISH COMMUNITY AND OUR FRIENDS AND OUR
NEIGHBORS URGENTLY REQUEST YOU TO SPEAK UP AND RECOMMEND
THAT THE TSA CANCELS THESE PERFORMANCES, YES, I UNDERSTAND,
IT WASN'T YOUR DECISION.

AT A TIME WHEN ANTI-SEMITISM IS RISING AT ALARMING RATES
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE WORLD, THE DECISION
TO PROVIDE ONE OF TAMPA BAY'S MOST PROMINENT PUBLIC VENUES
TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS REPEATEDLY PROMOTED ANTI-SEMITIC
RHETORIC, EMBRACE NAZI SYMBOLISM AND SPREAD HATEFUL
CONSPIRACY THEORIES SENDS A DEEPLY TROUBLING MESSAGE.
AND THIS IS THE SAME TIME AS MY COMMUNITY, THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY, IS FACING INCREASED THREATS, HARASSMENT,
VIOLENCE, AND CONCERNS FOR SAFETY.
AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, IF I GO INTO MY HOUSE OF
WORSHIP, WE HAVE TO HAVE PAID SECURITY GUARDS PROTECTING US
AT THE DOOR.
I BELIEVE CHURCHES AND MOSQUES AND OTHER TEMPLES DO NOT HAVE
TO DO THAT.
BUT EVERY SYNAGOGUE IN THE UNITED STATES HAS TO DO THAT.
OKAY.
REALLY, I AM ASKING YOU TO STAND WITH THE BRAVE AND STAND UP
AGAINST THIS RHETORIC.
THERE ARE COMMUNITIES ALL OVER THE WORLD, MOST RECENTLY IN
ITALY A CITY, REGGIO EMILIA, DECIDED TO CANCEL THE CONCERT.
YOU CAN STAND BEHIND OUR EFFORT TO CANCEL THIS CONCERT AND
STAND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT IN TAMPA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:12:32AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.

10:12:39AM >> MY NAME IS JACKIE DENNIS.
I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LATE LILLIAN WILLIAMS
BROWN.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
MS. LILLIAN WILLIAMS BROWN, THIS PROJECT IS TO BE NAMED IN
HONOR OF HER.
IT'S A HOUSING PROJECT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN EAST
TAMPA.
I GREW UP IN EAST TAMPA.
I'VE LIVED IN EAST TAMPA ALL OF MY LIFE IN THREE DIFFERENT
LOCATIONS.
THAT'S HOW MUCH I LOVE IT.
BUT I HAD MY BEGINNINGS AS A NOW RETIRED ELEMENTARY TEACHER,
I HAD MY BEGINNINGS WITH MS. LILLIAN WILLIAMS BROWN WHO WAS
KNOWN AS MS. WILLIAMS AT THAT TIME.
SHE WAS MY KINDERGARTEN DAY-CARE TEACHER AT FIRST BAPTIST
CHURCH OF COLLEGE HILL.
SO I HAD MY BEGINNINGS WITH HER.
BUT WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THAT, I ALSO GRADUATED FROM WHAT
USED TO BE BETHUNE-COOKMAN COLLEGE, NOW BETHUNE-COOKMAN
UNIVERSITY ALONG WITH MS. WILLIAMS BROWN, WHO WENT BACK TO
SCHOOL WHILE I WAS IN COLLEGE ALONG WITH HER DAUGHTER.
DURING THAT TIME I REALLY GOT TO KNOW HER AS A LOVING,
CARING, MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, FRIEND TYPE INDIVIDUAL.
SHE WAS A DORM COUNSELOR IN THE DORM I WAS LIVING IN AT THAT

TIME, AND EVERYBODY IN THE DORM KNEW MS. WILLIAMS.
SHE JUST WAS A COMMUNITY PERSON.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS BUILDING SHOULD DEFINITELY BE BUILT.
THIS HOUSING PROJECT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IN HONOR OF HER
LEGACY.
I WAS WITH HER REALLY ALL OF MY LIFE UP UNTIL THE WEEK SHE
PASSED AWAY.
I BELIEVE SHE WAS EITHER 95 OR 96 YEARS OLD.
EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR AREA IN THE JACKSON
HEIGHTS, BELMONT HEIGHTS AREA KNEW MS. LILLIAN WILLIAMS
BROWN FOR THE CARING MOTHER, TEACHER, GRANDMOTHER, TEACHER,
FRIEND THAT SHE WAS.
AND WE WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER HER.
PLEASE HAVE THIS BUILDING BUILT IN HER HONOR.
THANK YOU.
10:14:42AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:14:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:14:52AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:14:57AM >> I AM JULIA JACKSON, RESIDENT OF THE EAST TAMPA AT ONE
TIME, AND NOW I AM CURRENTLY IN THE -- STILL IN HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY.
BUT 25 YEARS AGO, AS AN EDUCATOR, 30 YEARS AS A WRITER AND
PHOTOGRAPHER FOR THE FLORIDA SENTINEL BULLETIN.
I ALSO HAVE A SON ALSO, JULIAN RAMON JACKSON, AN EDUCATOR.

ALL OF THIS IS DUE BECAUSE OF THE WILLIAMS FAMILY.
THEY HAVE IMPACTED THIS COMMUNITY SO HIGHLY THAT THERE ARE
SO MANY DOCTORS, LAWYERS, MAYBE SOME INDIAN CHIEFS STILL OUT
THERE, BUT THEY ARE FAITHFUL.
THE WILLIAMS FAMILY HAS BEEN SO FAITHFUL.
ALL OF HER CHILDREN, EXCEPT FOR TWO, GRADUATES OF
BETHUNE-COOKMAN UNIVERSITY.
BEING PART OF THE WILLIAMS FAMILY, AS SHE ENTERED INTO THE
EDUCATION OF LIFE, THAT WAS NUMBER ONE FOR HER.
PART OF THIS WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT
SHE LEFT STARTING OUT WITH THE ST. PETER CLAVER SCHOOL WHERE
HER DAUGHTER WAS THE PRINCIPAL THERE.
ALSO, THE FAMILY, TRUE ESSENCE OF THE CENTER OF EDUCATION,
THE CENTER OF THE ESSENCE OF THE COMMUNITY, THE CENTER OF
ONE OF OUR FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN TO RAISE A FAMILY
AND EDUCATE ALL OF HER CHILDREN, INCLUDING TWO BOYS, WENT TO
FAMU.
THEY OKAY.
BUT THE ESTATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE TRULY NEED THIS
ESTATE, BEING THE FACT THAT IT WILL BE FOR OUR SENIORS,
INCLUDING MYSELF.
THIS ESTABLISHMENT WOULD HELP SO MANY PEOPLE BEING THE FIRST
BUILDING SITE FOR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILY TO SAY WE HAVE
FIRST COME OUT TO BE ABLE TO FORM A BUILDING LIKE THIS WITH
THE HELP OF THE GENESIS DEVELOPMENT.

I SAY TO YOU, BEG OF YOU, THE LILLIAN WILLIAMS OF THIS CITY
OF EAST TAMPA, THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE LAID OUT,
EDUCATION, THERE IS NOTHING ELSE INVOLVED, BUT EDUCATION.
STARTING OUT WITH THE KINDERGARTEN, STARTING OUT WITH THE
DAY CARE.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE INVOLVED WITH THAT.
SO WHY NOT WE HAVE THIS BUILDING ESTABLISHED RIGHT HERE IN
EAST TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
10:18:07AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:18:10AM >> THANK YOU.
HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
LAST WEEK, I TALKED ABOUT A COLORED SCHOOL ACTUALLY BEING
LOCATED IN THE PEDROSO HOUSE THAT WAS AT THE CORNER OF 8th
AVENUE AND 13th STREET.
AGAIN, SIMILAR TO NANCY ASHLEY, HOW WE ATTACH BLACK WOMEN
STORIES TO WHITE PEOPLE OR WHITE MEN, WE TIED PAULINA
PEDROSO TO JOSE MARTI.
WE TIED NANCY ASHLEY TO WILLIAM ASHLEY.
BUT I THINK PAULINA PEDROSO, IF THAT IS THE SAME BUILDING
THAT THE COLORED SCHOOL WAS IN, I THINK HER LEGACY SHOULD BE

TIED TO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL BLACK SCHOOL, AND
IT SHOULD BE NOTATED OR PUT SOMEWHERE THAT THAT'S WHERE THE
SCHOOL WAS LOCATED.
AND IT MAY BE -- I HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH --
HARLEM ACADEMY WAS BURNT DOWN IN THE 1890s, SIMILAR TO --
OH, LORD, WHAT IS THE SCHOOL NEXT TO THE OLD ALLEN TEMPLE?
ST. PETER CLAVER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOE.
I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO START LOOKING AND DIGGING A LITTLE
BIT DEEPER INTO OUR HISTORY AND MAKING SURE THE FULL STORY
IS TOLD.
WEST TAMPA HAS A FEW STREETS NAMED AFTER PLACES IN CUBA.
MATANZAS, HABANA, GARCIA IS A STREET AS WELL STILL HERE IN
WEST TAMPA.
NOW, MY CUBAN HISTORY IS REALLY ROCKY, BUT THAT'S A STORY
FOR ANOTHER DAY.
LIKE I TOLD YOU GUYS LAST WEEK, I THINK THE AFRO CUBAN
COMMUNITY NEED TO REALLY RISE UP.
I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD BE LEARNING YOUR HISTORY AND TALKING
TO ELDERS.
THE CUBAN COMMUNITY, WHITE AND BLACK, I THINK, NEED TO BE
SPEAKING TO THESE ELDERS THAT ARE STILL HERE.
THERE'S BEEN A CONVERSATION -- I'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT ABOUT
THE AFRO CUBAN HISTORY.
I'M LIKE, I'M NOT AFRO CUBAN.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DESCEND FROM AFRO CUBANS AND I
THINK THEY SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO THEIR GRANDPARENTS AND
ELDERS.
SOME OF THEM I'VE SPOKEN TO, THEY DON'T IDENTIFY AS AFRO
CUBAN AND DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, UNFORTUNATELY.
WE'VE BEEN ASKED SOMETIMES BY THE CUBAN, WHITE COMMUNITY TO
SHARE THE AFRO CUBAN HISTORY.
AND I'M LIKE, WE DON'T EVEN SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE AS SOME
OF THE ELDERS.
SOME SPEAK ENGLISH BUT NOT THE BEST ENGLISH.
YOU SHOULD BE RECORDING IT WHILE THEY ARE STILL HERE.
THAT'S MY STANCE ON THAT.
I'M GOING TO GET INTO THIS CUBAN HISTORY NEXT WEEK.
BUT I WANTED TO GET INTO THAT AND REDIRECT OUR FOCUS ON WHAT
PAULA PEDROSO'S LEGACY SHOULD BE.
INSTEAD OF THE PARK, IT SHOULD BE TIED TO THE SCHOOL THAT
WAS THERE ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.
THANK YOU.
10:21:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
NEXT SPEAKER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:21:21AM >> HI.
VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE HILL.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MS. HAZEL.
IT'S NOT JUST A HOUSE THAT GOT DESTROYED.

SHE HAD HISTORY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S RIGHT THERE ON 26th AVENUE WHERE LEE DAVIS CLINIC IS
AT.
IT'S BEHIND THAT LITTLE SIDE STREET CALLED HOLMES.
IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S BEHIND SUNCOAST GROCERY STORE.
AND MRS. HAZEL, SHE HAD BEEN THERE A NUMBER OF YEARS.
SHE RAISED HER NIECE.
I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH HER IN FIFTH GRADE.
USED TO RUN IN AND OUT OF HER HOUSE BECAUSE JUANITA WASN'T
ALLOWED TO THE PROJECTS.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
I KNOW OF SEVERAL PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA THAT'S ELDERLY IN
THEIR 90s AND THEIR HOUSE IS FALLING APART OR NEED TO BE
REPAIRED.
AND WHEN WE GO TO THE CRA, FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU DON'T
QUALIFY.
I THOUGHT THE CRA WAS FOR THE PEOPLE AND TO REMOVE THE SLUM
AND BLIGHT.
EVIDENTLY THE CRA IS NOW A BIG BANK TO BANK ROLL BUSINESSES
AND CORPORATIONS.
AND IT SHOULD NOT BE LIKE THAT.
THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
I HAVE YET TO READ WHERE A HOUSE GOT DESTROYED IN CULBREATH
ISLAND, DAVIS ISLAND, OR MAPLE DALE.

IT ONLY HAPPENED IN EAST TAMPA.
99% OF THE TIME TO THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE ALREADY PAID THEIR DUES TO SOCIETY, WHO HAVE HELPED
THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAME BEHIND THEM, THEY ARE THE ONES
THAT KEEP LOSING THEIR HOUSE AND GETTING VICTIMIZED.
AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY DO IT KEEP HAPPENING.
HOW DO THESE PEOPLE FALL UNDER THE CRACKS?
AND A GOOD EXAMPLE, WHEN I WAS WITH MR. WILLIAMS, WE
COULDN'T GET NOBODY TO HELP HIM WITH HIS HOUSE AND HE OWNED
HIS HOUSE.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CRA, THE RULES, HOW THEY CAN HELP THE
COMMUNITY TO THE PEOPLE, THE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS.
EVERY TIME I GO TO THE CRA MEETING, I'M TALKING ABOUT LEGACY
HOMEOWNERS.
THEY TELL ME THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THAT.
YES THERE IS.
WE'VE BEEN LIVING OVER THERE 30, 40, 50 YEARS, LEGACY
HOMEOWNERS.
YOU ALL GOT LEGACY BUSINESS OWNERS, SO WHY CAN'T WE BE
LEGACY HOMEOWNERS?
WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS SO -- WE ALL GOING TO DIE.
I WOULD LIKE TO DIE IN MY HOUSE.
THE PEOPLE 96, 97 YEARS OLD, THEY SHOULD NOT BE DISPLACED OR
HAVE TO GO THROUGH SUCH TRAUMA TO MOVE FROM THE HOUSE THAT

THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN 30, 40, 50 YEARS.
WE NEED TO ACTIVELY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND I SUGGEST THE
CRA HIRE PEOPLE.
GO KNOCK ON DOORS.
GO TO THE CHURCHES.
TALK TO THE CHURCHES.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING SOME KIND OF WAY THERE IS A
COMMUNICATION BLOCK THERE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
10:24:34AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:24:46AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
LOCATED ON 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I COME UP HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK.
WE DON'T GET NO ANSWER.
YOUNG LADY CRYING, CRYING FOR ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
BUT WE DON'T GET NO ANSWER.
SEEM NOBODY CARE.
PEOPLE BACK HERE, CARE MORE ABOUT MY PROBLEM THAN YOU ALL
DO, AND YOU ARE THE ONE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT.
MS. YOUNG, YOU ARE IN DISTRICT FIVE, RIGHT?
YOU NEED TO COME AND TALK TO SOME OF US THAT ARE -- TAKE
CARE OF DISTRICT FIVE.
COME AND TALK TO US PERSONALLY.

THE YOUNG LADY THAT JUST WALK OVER, SHE HELP ME OUT A WHOLE
LOT.
I THANK GOD FOR HER, TOO.
IF I DIDN'T GET SOME HELP FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE BACK HERE,
I WOULD NEVER GET NO HELP.
AND I'M HANDICAPPED.
OLD AND HANDICAPPED AND UGLY.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT TO SURVIVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE TRUST YOU ALL.
YOU ALL OUGHT TO TRUST HER FOR WHAT WE NEED.
TONY DANIELS, TALKING ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, THAT THING
BEEN THERE, BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS.
I USED TO LIVE THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT, NOBODY WANT TO DO NOTHING ABOUT IT, FIX IT
UP.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL TEN DAYS TO GET SOMEBODY TO
COME FIX IT UP.
IF YOU ALL DON'T FIX IT UP, WE CAN GO THERE AND BURN IT DOWN
OURSELVES.
AND THAT'S MY RIGHT TO BURN IT DOWN.
WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE CONSTITUTION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
BLACK FOLK.
WE GET UP AND MAKE SOME NOISE, TELLING US TO SIT DOWN.
A LOT OF PEOPLE -- TELLING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND GO HELP THESE PEOPLE.

MY WATER BILL HAS BEEN UP OVER A YEAR.
I TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO.
PEOPLE HERE HELP ME OUT MORE THAN YOU DO.
YOU ALL VOTED PEOPLE.
PUBLICLY VOTED.
MAYBE YOU ARE OR NOT.
BUT I HAVE TO THANK GOD FOR THINGS.
I'M HANDICAPPED.
WE ARE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING, MOVE -- RIGHT HERE HELP ME MORE
THAN YOU ALL.
GRATEFUL THAT YOU ALL THAT WANT TO HELP AND CAN'T BECAUSE
THE CITY CONTROLS YOU.
PASTOR WILLIAMS, TOOK MY CHURCH AND EVERYTHING -- YEAH, THEY
TOOK MY CHURCH AND DONE AWAY WITH IT AND RUN ME OUT OF
THERE.
10:28:10AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
10:28:13AM >> I'M VERY GRATEFUL I'M ALIVE TODAY.
10:28:14AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
10:28:18AM >> GOD BLESS YOU.
10:28:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MARTINEZ FOR THE RECORD.
EVERYONE KNOWS ME AS MIMI.
CURRENTLY EAST TAMPA CAC MEMBER.
I TOOK OFF TODAY SO I CAN TALK ABOUT THE MOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT DISCUSSION.

I HAVE MANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA I WANT TO TOUCH UPON TODAY
STARTING OFF WITH THE LEGACY ON 34th STREET AND THE
VINCENTE YBOR HOUSING PROJECT.
I SUPPORT BOTH OF THEM.
NOW MORE THAN EVER WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL CRA PROJECTS
THAT CAC RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR.
WHEN THE LEGACY ON 34th STREET DEVELOPERS CAME TO PRESENT
TO THE CAC A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I DID ASK THEM TO
CONSIDER INSTALL SOME ARTWORK THAT WOULD REFLECT THE HISTORY
OF LILLIAN WILLIAMS BROWN.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP TELLING AND SHOWING THE HISTORY
OF EAST TAMPA.
ALONG THE LINES OF DEVELOPER DEADLINES, I DO BELIEVE THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHENEVER WE ARE FUNDING A BIG DOLLAR
AMOUNT PROJECT, THAT THAT DEVELOPER SHOULD COME BACK TO THE
CAC TO REPORT WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR PROJECT PHASE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE EDC.
THEY HAVE BEEN COMING TO US EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS TO UPDATE
US ON THEIR PLANS FOR THE EAST TAMPA INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
I GAVE THEM A LOT OF KUDOS FOR DOING THAT.
MY ONLY ASK, AND I DID SAY THIS DURING THE MEETING THAT WE
HAD EARLIER THIS MONTH TO THEM, TO CRAIG, IS THAT THEY SHARE
WITH US THEIR 2022 INDUSTRIAL MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE
A PLAN IN PLACE ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO FOR THAT AREA ALONG
COLUMBUS DRIVE ON I THINK 34th STREET TO 40 SOMETHING

STREET.
YOU'LL GET BETTER BUY-IN AND SUPPORT AND PARTNERSHIP FROM
THE EAST TAMPA CAC IF WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
THEY ARE COMING TO US AND REPORTING TO US ABOUT THE LIVE
LEARN, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, THE ASHLEY EAST, BUT THERE'S
MORE THAT'S ON THE HORIZON AND IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
THEY ARE BEING ACCOUNTABLE BY UPDATING US.
EVERY TIME THEY COME TO THE CAC, CLEARLY, YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE
DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
THAT IS MY ASK THAT WE DO OBTAIN THAT.
ALSO, FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRP, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CRP THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A
STADIUM, A SPORTS STADIUM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE DREW PARK CRP HAS THAT, BECAUSE USUALLY
THAT'S NOT IN THE CRP.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU APPROVE THAT, THAT WE DON'T
HAVE THAT IN THERE.
BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THAT IN EAST TAMPA.
FOR THE MOU, SO MY CONCERN, MY PERSPECTIVE IS IT'S A CRA.
AND THE CAC IS STRATEGICALLY DESIGNED TO HAVE LOCAL
RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND BUSINESSES WHO ARE GOING TO
DRIVE THE PARTNERSHIPS AND PROJECTS IN THAT AREA FOR THE
PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
IT'S A MATTER OF BEING KEPT IN A LOOP.

I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CAC IS LOSING THEIR VOICE.
AND THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN A SILO FOR JUST DREW PARK BECAUSE
IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO SUNSET, WE'RE IN LINE,
TOO, EAST TAMPA.
THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT ALL THE CRAs.
THAT IS MY FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTED
AND OUR VOICES CANNOT BE LOST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:31:34AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:31:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BOBBY CREIGHTON.
I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON URBAN REWORX TODAY BUT I SAW ITEM
NUMBER 3 ON THE AGENDA.
I WAS PRESENT AT THE EAST TAMPA CAC MEETING WHEN THEY HAD
THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S A HOME RUN, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL
GETTING VERY WARY OF THE BASEBALL METAPHORS.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S AN A PLUS, A PLUS, PLUS WITH A BIG
CIRCLE AROUND IT TO HONOR MS. WILLIAMS BROWN LEGACY.
IT'S IN THE PERFECT LOCATION.
LITERALLY MINUTES' WALK FROM A PUBLIC PARK, AL BARNES PARK.
LITERALLY MINUTES' WALK FROM THE EAST TAMPA INDUSTRIAL
CORRIDOR.
JUST A FEW MINUTES FROM A HUGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO

BE HAPPENING IN EAST YBOR WHERE A LOT OF NEW JOBS WILL
BECOME AVAILABLE AND IT HAS ALL THE LEVELS OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THAT YOU WANT.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PROJECT.
I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT AND I HOPE YOU DO TOO.
FOR THE URBAN REWORX PROJECT, THIS IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT I
SUPPORT.
I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH TO SEE WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE
IS ON NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THERE IS THE ADDERLEY, WHICH WAS HUGE.
THAT'S UP NORTH OF BUSCH.
THERE'S ECHO OAKS APARTMENTS ON 32nd AVENUE AND NEBRASKA.
AND URBAN HEIGHTS WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF
HILLSBOROUGH.
OTHER THAN THAT ALL YOU REALLY SEE ARE THESE TOWNHOMES OR
CONDOS STARTING AT $450,000 AND ABOVE.
THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF AFFORDABLE, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING
ON THE CORRIDOR ITSELF WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK OUT OF THEIR
FRONT DOOR, HOP ON THE BUS AND GET STRAIGHT TO A JOB.
THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE SOME OF THAT HOUSING.
THAT WOULD BE THE EASY WAY TO TAKE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE LOT, WHERE IT IS IN RELATION
TO GASWORX AND OTHER HIGHER END DEVELOPMENTS, EASY ROAD
WOULD BE BUILD THE EXPENSIVE TOWNHOMES, BUILD THE EXPENSIVE
CONDOS.

GET AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU CAN AND LEAVE.
BUT THAT HASN'T BEEN THE APPROACH HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOME DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD
ABOUT FUNDING, ABOUT WHAT THE RESERVE IS TO FUND PROJECTS
LIKE THIS AND TO BALANCE THAT DISCUSSION WITH HOW DO WE GET
PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE ACROSS THE FINISH LINE IF THERE IS A
CAPITAL STACK WITH OTHER CONTINGENCIES, WITH OTHER LOANS,
WHERE THAT FUNDING NEEDS TO BECOME AVAILABLE PUBLICLY IN
ORDER TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED.
SO I COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT AS A DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO
BE HAD AND I HOPE IT IS VERY THOROUGH, LONGEVITY OF FUNDS
FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I WILL SAY, GIVEN THE DEARTH OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
WE HAVE, THE LOCATION ON A MAJOR TRANSIT CORRIDOR, THE
VICINITY TO A MASSIVE JOB MARKET IN DOWNTOWN AND YBOR, I
SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
10:34:37AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:34:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CHALETTE
DAVIS.
I AM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LOVE INC.
WHAT WE DO AT LOVE INC. IS WE PARTNER WITH A NETWORK OF
CHURCH PARTNERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND EVEN GOVERNMENT

TO SERVE OUR NEIGHBORS AND TO LOVE THEM AND WALK ALONGSIDE
THEM WHEN THEY ARE GOING THROUGH SOME OF LIFE'S GREATEST
CHALLENGES.
I'M HERE THIS MORNING IN SUPPORT OF URBAN REWORX, VINCENTE
YBOR PROJECT, WHICH IS THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
ALONG THE NEBRASKA AVENUE CORRIDOR.
AT LOVE INC., WE WORK WITH HUNDREDS OF TAMPA FAMILIES EACH
YEAR WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
MANY PEOPLE ASSUME THAT HOUSING INSTABILITY ONLY AFFECTS
THOSE LIVING IN POVERTY BUT INCREASINGLY, INCREASINGLY WE
ARE SEEING WORKING FAMILIES, TEACHERS, SENIORS, ESSENTIAL
WORKERS WHO ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF THE VERY COMMUNITIES
THEY HAVE SERVED AND LIVED IN, IN THESE LEGACY HOMES FOR
YEARS.
THESE ARE OUR ALICE FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
ALICE STANDS FOR ASSET LIMITED INCOME CONSTRAINED AND
EMPLOYED HOUSEHOLDS, WHO WORK HARD EVERY DAY YET STILL
STRUGGLE TO AFFORD HOUSING IN TAMPA'S CURRENT MARKET.
NONPROFIT WORKERS AS WELL.
LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE TEACHERS, HEALTH CARE WORKERS, CHILD
CARE PROVIDERS, HOSPITALITY EMPLOYEES, RETAIL WORKERS AND
COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO HELP KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING.
PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE
A REALITY THAT MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS FACE EVERY DAY, EARNING
A PAYCHECK IS NO LONGER ENOUGH TO GUARANTEE HOUSING

STABILITY.
BY CREATING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS EARNING UP
TO 80% OF AMI URBAN REWORX IS HELPING BRIDGE A CRITICAL GAP
FOR WORKING CLASS FAMILIES WHO OFTEN FALL BETWEEN MARKET
RATE HOUSING AND TRADITIONAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS MORE THAN A HOUSING PROJECT.
IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE LONG-TERM HEALTH AND VITALITY OF
OUR COMMUNITY.
HOUSING IS NOT SIMPLY A SOCIAL SERVICE ISSUE.
IT IS AN ECONOMIC INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.
WHEN WORKERS CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE NEAR THEIR JOBS, FAMILIES
BECOME UNSTABLE.
EMPLOYERS STRUGGLE TO RETAIN TALENT AND NEIGHBORHOODS LOSE
THE VERY PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR CHARACTER AND
STRENGTH.
URBAN REWORX HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED THE COMMITMENT OF
THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT HONORS BOTH COMMUNITY
REVITALIZATION AND AFFORDABILITY.
THIS PROJECT REFLECTS THE KIND OF INNOVATIVE PARTNERSHIP
THAT ALLOWS TAMPA TO GROW WHILE ENSURING LONGTIME RESIDENTS
THAT THE -- LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AND WORKING FAMILIES ARE NOT
LEFT BEHIND.
SO THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER TAMPA WILL CONTINUE TO GROW.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE TAMPA EVERY DAY
WILL STILL BE ABLE TO CALL IT HOME.

I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT HELPS ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN THE
RIGHT WAY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:37:54AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:38:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M CEDRIC CARRINGTON.
I'M AN EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND NOT TO BE OUTDONE BY MORROW,
I PLAN TO SHARE A LITTLE HISTORY AS WELL.
NOVEMBER 1863 AND THE WAR-TORN COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN DELIVERED THE GETTYSBURG ADDRESS WHICH
CONCLUDED WITH THE WORDS "OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE BY
THE PEOPLE."
TRUE WORDS CANNOT BETTER DESCRIBE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
MS. LILLIAN WILLIAMS BROWN, VICTORIA AND RAQUEL HAIL FROM
JACKSON HEIGHTS AND ENDEAVOR TO INVEST IN DEVELOPING JACKSON
HEIGHTS FOR RESIDENTS OF JACKSON HEIGHTS.
I SUPPORT THIS.
LET'S MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
THANK YOU.
10:38:48AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:38:58AM >> DESIREE A. JACKSON.
TODAY I REPRESENT MY MOTHER HELEN WRIGHT JACKSON YOUNG AND

COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO WERE THE FRUIT OF MS. LILLIAN WILLIAMS
BROWN'S LEGACY OF SERVICE, AND THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 3.
MOTHER LILLIAN LIVED A LIFE OF SERVICE AND THE LEGACY WAS
INSTILLED IN HER BY HER PARENTS, HER CHURCH, AND THE FOUNDER
OF HER BELOVED COLLEGE ALMA MATER DR. MARY McLEOD BETHUNE
WHO TAUGHT HER THAT FAITH IS THE FIRST FACTOR OF A LIFE
DEVOTED TO SERVICE.
WITHOUT IT, NOTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH IT, NOTHING IS
IMPOSSIBLE.
34th STREET, JACKSON HEIGHTS, EAST TAMPA, AND HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY TRULY NEEDS A BEAUTIFUL, SAFE, COMFORTABLE, AND
AFFORDABLE MIXED HOUSE USE AS IN WILL BE THE SENIOR
WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT ON 34th STREET.
THE NEED IS GREAT.
PLEASE HONOR THE DEDICATION AND HEARTFELT DECADES OF HER
MULTIGENERATIONAL SERVICE BY PROVIDING MORE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FOR HER COMMUNITY.
THE CHILDREN AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN THAT SHE NURTURED AND
THEIR FAMILIES, SHE'S TAUGHT THEM THAT THEY CAN DO AND
BECOME BETTER, AND THOSE WHO SHE HAS GUIDED, THEY NEED STILL
SOME PLACE TO LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
ON THIS DATE, JUNE 11, 2026, LET US BRING LIFE TO THE WORDS
OF REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
THE TIME IS ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND NOW, THE TIME IS WAY, WAY OVERDUE.

PLEASE HELP US BRING AFFORDABLE, COMFORTABLE, SAFE HOUSING
TO THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA WHO ARE THE LEGACY OF MRS.
LILLIAN WILLIAMS BROWN.
THANK YOU.
10:41:01AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
IF YOU ARE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE LINE UP.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE LEFT TO SPEAK, PLEASE LINE UP SO WE
KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE LEFT.
THANK YOU.
ONE OF MY INTERNS IN THE AUDIENCE, COULD YOU COME HERE,
PLEASE?
I'M TALKING TO MY INTERNS.
THANK YOU, KENDALL.
10:41:36AM >> JOE ROBINSON, WEST TAMPA.
I DECIDED TO SPEAK THIS TIME.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
HERE.
IN WEST TAMPA CRA, WE ARE HAVING ISSUE WITH STUDYING OUR
ALLEYS.
SPEND OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS.
LIT UP ALLEYS WITH SOME LIGHTS.
ALLEYS IS A PROBLEM.
AND WHAT THIS IS, IS A CODE AMENDMENT CHANGE THAT WE'RE
GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.

I JUST SENT THIS TO THE COMMITTEE, ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE THE CODE IS SORT OF
MESSED UP.
THEY ARE TELLING PEOPLE YOU GOT TO USE REAL ALLEY ASSETS,
BUT THERE MAY BE TREES THERE.
IT MAY NOT BE WIDE ENOUGH.
THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM.
EVEN THIS CITY COUNCIL WHEN SOMEONE OBJECTED ON ST. JOHN A
COUPLE OF YEARS BACK THAT THEY WANT TO GO AGAINST THE
ADMINISTRATION'S DENIAL, CITY COUNCIL REVERSED IT AND SAYS
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE ALLEY ACCESS TO A GARAGE IN THE
REAR.
WE'RE STUDYING ALLEYS BECAUSE THEY ARE NEGLECTED.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR VICE-CHAIR, MR. CARLOS RAMIREZ,
HAS BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS TO COME UP WITH
A CHANGE INTO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, BECAUSE IT'S A
PROBLEM.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL BE SUGGESTING TO OUR GROUP, IF
WE WANT THESE ALLEYS TO BE UTILIZED, IF WE WANT THESE ALLEYS
TO BE ACCESSIBLE, THEN THE CRA IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME
MONEY UP TO HELP DO THAT.
IF DEVELOPER SAYS WE GOT TO MAKE HIM HAVE REAR ALLEY ACCESS,
AND THE ALLEY IS NOT PAVED, THE ALLEY IS RAGGEDY, THEN WE
PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME OF OUR FUNDS FROM THE CRA SET UP
TO OFFSET THAT COST.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY BUILD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK, THEY GOT
TO IMPROVE THE ALLEY ALL THE WAY FROM THE SIDE STREET UP TO
THE MIDDLE.
WHAT I'M GOING TO BE PROPOSING TO THE COMMITTEE AND I'M
LETTING THE CRA BOARD KNOW NOW, WE SET UP A FUND, START WITH
A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WILL SUBSIDIZE TO HELP GET OUR
ALLEYS UP TO PAR IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM REAR ALLEY
ACCESS.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN THE ALLEY IS IMPROVED,
THE HOMEOWNER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE
ALLEY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE OLDER PEOPLE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT DON'T
CARE, YOU HAVE RENTERS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE CARE OF
THAT ALLEY.
WHAT WE NEED TO IS TRY TO IMPROVE IT BECAUSE THE MONIES FROM
THE CRA CAN BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE ARE THE FIRST
GROUP IN TAMPA TO STUDY THE ALLEYS, AND WE'RE FINDING A LOT
OUT.
WE'VE GOT STUDIES.
EVEN HAVE LIGHTS IN THEM NOW.
WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT BECAUSE WEST TAMPA IS HISTORIC
DISTRICT AND HAVE TO ALLOW THE ALLEYS.
I WANT TO BRING THAT UP ON THIS PART OF THE AGENDA.
THEN I'LL BE BACK TO DO MY REPORT ONCE BRENDA INTRODUCES ME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

10:44:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
10:44:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ALISON HEWITT.
THIRD GENERATION RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA AND BUSINESS OWNER.
SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT.
NUMBER 1 IS ITEM NUMBER 3.
WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED THAT WE DO HAVE ONE OF OUR FIRST
PROJECTS THAT ARE LEGACY PROPERTY OWNERS TO TURN THEIR LAND
INTO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONALLY BENEFICIAL
TO THE COMMUNITY.
I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
WHAT HAS BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOU AS A PROUD MEMBER OF THE
JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THIS IS THE LETTER
OF SUPPORT.
THIS PROJECT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF JACKSON HEIGHTS
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE MS. TATE
HAD ANOTHER APPOINTMENT THIS MORNING AND COULD NOT ATTEND
HERSELF, SO SHE ASKED FOR ME TO GIVE THAT TO YOU.
THE OTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ABOUT THE HOUSING.
AS I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT, IF WE CAN PLEASE
MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ARE TRYING TO BRING 50% AND 30%
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO EAST TAMPA, WHICH AVERAGE MEDIAN
INCOME OF 25,500, IS THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIES TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IN EAST TAMPA.

THE OTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CRP.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE, HOW DO WE
KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING IF WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.
THERE IS NOT A SUBSTANTIAL REPORT IN THERE ON WHAT WORKED
AND WHAT DIDN'T WORK ON HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT 1 THE CRA IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPLEMENT
WHAT THE CITY DOES AND NOT FUND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CRP, WHICH ONLY THINGS THAT CAN BE
PAID FOR, IT HAS TO BE IN THE CRP.
AND WE'RE SETTING THE PRECEDENT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH
SHOULD BE A CITY RESPONSIBILITY, IS NOW GOING TO BE TAKEN
OVER BY THE CRA.
AND I HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FOR.
AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANTS, I
KNOW THAT REPORT WAS RECEIVED AND THEN FILED.
I'M HOPING THAT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE
COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND ESPECIALLY AS THEY DEAL WITH MIXED USE
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
WEIGHING PROJECTS THAT CAN BE SUBSTANTIAL IN BRINGING
HOUSING TO THE AREA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
LAST SPEAKER.
10:47:07AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M SURGRET DOSS.

WE GOT CROSS BURNINGS GOING ON IN CHICAGO.
WE HAVE MISCARRIAGES OF JUSTICE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY.
MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMUNITY GIVES
SO MUCH GRACE TO PEOPLE WHO HATE US SO MUCH.
MY QUESTION IS, WHERE IS THE HOOD AT?
SHOUT-OUT TO DMX FOR THAT RIGHT THERE.
SPEAKING TO EVERYBODY IN THESE NOW DIVIDED STATES OF
AMERICA.
EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PANDERING FOR SO LONG STARTING TO
GET THE WAKE-UP CALL.
I WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT THE GENTLEMAN ASKED ME LAST WEEK
TO DISCUSS ABOUT CHILD SUPPORT.
I THOUGHT THAT FLORIDA'S ELECTED OFFICIALS HAD A GREATER
RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND TO FOCUS ON THE
ISSUES THAT AFFECT FLORIDA DIRECTLY.
SO I WAS BLOWN THAT THE FLORIDA AG SHOWED SO MUCH OF A
DISDAIN AND VIGOR IN HOSTILITY WITH -- HIRING BLACK COACHES
IN A LEAGUE OVER 70% BLACK.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT HIS FAKE VIGOR WOULDN'T EXIST IF HE HAD
TO FACE ONE OF THESE BROTHERS IN PERSON.
I'M KIND OF SICK OF A LOT OF FAKE TUB GUYS POPPING UP
BECAUSE THEY ARE CLOAKED IN A POSITION OR WHAT HAVE YOU OF
AUTHORITY.
I WOULD THINK THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD SPEND MORE

TIME FOCUSING ON THE HEARING OFFICERS AND THE ATTORNEYS THAT
RUN THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND THE CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES
THAT ABUSE SO MANY OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE ISSUES.
AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO CALL ME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, DOSS, I
WANT YOU TO ADDRESS WHEN YOU GET THERE, WE UNDERSTAND THIS
IS NOT A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE, BUT LIKE I SAY, YOU ALL STEP ON
MY YouTube MONEY, I COME UP AND USE THE PLATFORM AND YOU
TAKE PRETTY GOOD PICTURES OF ME AS WELL.
PEOPLE DON'T JUST COMPLAIN.
DO WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID -- VOTE.
YOU GET THESE OPPORTUNITIES ANNUALLY.
STEP UP AND LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD.
TO YOU, MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL, I WON'T SAY YOUR NAME BECAUSE
I KNOW YOU ALSO REPRESENT THE JUDGE WHO FALSELY ACCUSED ME
OF A CRIME.
SHOW SOME COMPASSION AND COMMON SENSE TOWARD INSURANCE
COMPANIES, NOT SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO STATE FARM WHO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF ELDERLY PEOPLE AND VETERANS.
YOU HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE CONFIDENT WALKING INTO
COURTROOMS AND OUTRIGHT LYING TO JUDGES.
DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.
LOOK ME UP AND LOOK UP ANY OF MY CASES AND LOOK AT THE
TRANSCRIPTS, THEY ARE REALLY COMFORTABLE IN DOING THESE
THINGS.
THAT BEING SAID, I SEND MY CONDOLENCES TO MY BUDDY, PAT

REDDICK'S FAMILY.
HE PASSED AT TOO YOUNG OF AN AGE, I THINK 56.
AND SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON
HIGH SCHOOL.
10:50:07AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:50:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I NEED TO AMEND MY MOTION REGARDING THE
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S AGENDA TO INCLUDE THE APPROVAL OF THE
ADDENDUM AS WELL.
10:50:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:50:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND BY BOARD
MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
CAN I ALSO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MAY
14, 2026, CRA MEETING AND MAY 21st, 2026 SPECIAL CALL
MEETING?
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.
WE MOVE TO OUR STAFF REPORTS WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
10:51:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS BRENDA THROWER.
I AM THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT -- CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE MR. JOE ROBINSON, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF
THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
HE'S HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WEST
TAMPA.
10:51:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
10:51:24AM >> MADAM CHAIR, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT TO GIVE ME?
ONE MINUTE?
10:51:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED.
10:51:30AM >> WHATEVER YOU SAY I CAN GO.
YOU KNOW THAT, CHARLIE.
TEN SECONDS?
APPROVE EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA, LET'S GO HOME.
10:51:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IS FIVE MINUTES OKAY?
10:51:41AM >> FIVE MINUTES IS FINE.
JOE ROBINSON, LONGTIME RESIDENT OF WEST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA
CRA CHAIR.
WEST TAMPA IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CRAs.
GOOD TO 2043.
NOT WORRIED ABOUT EXTENSION.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY BECAUSE MY APPROACH BACK IN 2013 AND

'15 WHEN WE STARTED WAS TO GET THE DEVELOPERS TO DEVELOP
WITHOUT CRA MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SHOW A LOT OF PROJECTS IN WEST TAMPA, NOT
ROME YARD, NOT WEST RIVER SEE ONE DIME OF CRA MONEY.
RIGHT, MS. BRENDA, RIGHT, CEDRIC?
THEY NEVER RECEIVE ANY CRA MONEY.
STAND ON OWN TWO FEET LIKE MOST DEVELOPERS SHOULD.
WITH THAT SAID, LET'S START WITH THE MAJOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS
BECAUSE WE FIGURED THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY, SO WE PUT
THE MONEY UP FIRST.
AND ONE OF THEM IS SALCINES PARK.
WE JUST COMPLETED THE RIBBON CUTTING APRIL 2026.
DONE.
TOOK ALMOST FIVE YEARS.
DONE.
BEAUTIFUL.
DRIVE DOWN, COMING DOWN HOWARD TO THE RIGHT, BEAUTIFUL.
IT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SHADE IN THE HEAT.
NICE SWING, NICE AMENITIES.
AND SALCINES FAMILY APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
THE MURAL BEHIND IT TELLS A STORY TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S COMPLETED.
DONE.
WE'RE STARTING TO GET STUFF DONE.
REY PARK, PERMITTING IS ALMOST COMPLETE.

THREE POINT SOMETHING MILLION INTO THAT.
CRA MONEY, NOT REGULAR CITY MONEY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT ON THE CITY.
DEAL WITH THE CRA MONEY WE HAVE BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW TO MOVE
THINGS FORWARD.
PROJECTS IN PROCESS, THEY GOT 90% PLANS COMING OUT.
NOT ONLY THAT YOU GUYS HELPED APPROVE PREVIOUSLY AT ANOTHER
MEETING A 1 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO GET THE STREET
AROUND IT STRAIGHT.
GET THE LIGHTING AROUND THE PARK STRAIGHT.
YOU CAN COME WITH A BABY STROLLER.
GET THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, SIDEWALKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS
STRAIGHTENED OUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DOWN THE ROAD YOU'LL SEE THAT DEMOLISHED AND SEE A BEAUTIFUL
RED BRICK BUILDING COME BACK, BEAUTIFUL DESIGN FOR PARKS AND
REC TO DO THAT.
FREEDOM PARK, ANOTHER PARK THAT'S ON FREMONT.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE STREET GRID TO BE RECHANGED.
WE'LL OPEN BACK UP WHERE THE CUL-DE-SACS ARE THAT THE
SAFETY, MR. LUIS, FIRE DEPARTMENT, SAFETY PEOPLE
COMPLAINING, CAN'T TAKE A FIRE TRUCK DOWN THERE TO A BURNING
HOUSE AND TURN IT RIGHT.
HOUSE BURNED UP THERE ONE TIME ABOUT SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO.
IF YOU WANT AMBULANCE, HOW IT CAN GET STRAIGHT THROUGH?

FIND A STREET.
WE WANT TO OPEN UP OUR GRID, THE NATURAL GRID.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT.
ONCE WE GET THE GRID STRAIGHT, THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH FREMONT
PARK.
ONE OF THE USES, PROBABLY A DOG PARK PROBABLY BEST USE FOR
FREMONT LINEAR PARK.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE GRID, WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT, ABOUT
HALFWAY DONE.
GO DOWN ROME AVENUE, YOU SEE A LOT OF THE MONEY THAT WE PUT
IN, $10 MILLION COMING TO LIFE.
IT'S GOING TO ALSO TIE INTO THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE.
IT'S COMING TO LIFE.
A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON ROME AVENUE.
REAL HARD TO GO UP AND DOWN ROME ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF KENNEDY, MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE IS DOWN ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF KENNEDY.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO PARK ON THE STREET BUT IT WILL BE
BEAUTIFUL.
IT WILL BE WALKABLE.
IT WILL BE BIKEABLE, MS. HURTAK.
IT WILL BE EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT TO HAVE, AND IT'S NOT ANY
CITY MONEY.
IT'S REALLY CRA MONEY.
NOW, LET'S MOVE ON TO MAIN STREET COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

WE DID THE QUICK BUILD.
RIDE DOWN MAIN, PARKING SPACES, NEW PAVEMENT ALL THE WAY
FROM BOULEVARD TO ARMENIA WAS DONE.
STREET MARKED OFF.
COULDN'T PARK ON THERE IF YOU WANTED TO DO, QUICK-BUILD
PROJECT.
ABOUT $300,000 THAT WE PUT IN.
WE'RE PLANNING FOR MAIN STREET BEAUTIFICATION FOR THE ENTIRE
CORRIDOR ON MAIN STREET.
WE'RE EVEN DOING PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS TO GET SOME OF THE
DERELICT BUILDINGS, SOME OF THE ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
NEED TO GO.
IF YOU RIDE DOWN MAIN STREET, YOU GET A CONTACT -- THEY SAY
IT'S MEDICAL -- YOU GET A CONTACT.
I KEEP IT REAL.
ALSO COHATCH.
COHATCH SPENT A LOT OF MONEY THERE.
MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO GO OVER THE CRP PLAN.
WE'RE UPDATING, ANTIQUATED.
UPDATING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
HAD A GREAT TURNOUT THE OTHER NIGHT AND STAFF HAS BEEN GOOD.
SO WE APPRECIATE THESE PEOPLE COMING IN WITH DEVELOPMENT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CRA MONEY.
NEW PUBLIX, NEW RESTAURANTS.
WE GOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAN ANYBODY IN WEST TAMPA

BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WE'RE DOING STRATEGIC LAND ACQUISITIONS WHERE WE GET MORE
LAND.
THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS, EVEN THOUGH AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED
-- BUT I AGREE WITH MS. RITA.
I AGREE WITH CEDRIC.
IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THE PARKS.
LET'S APPROVE THEM AND I'LL DEAL WITH WHATEVER I HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THAT.
PUBLIC ART OVER THERE BY WRAPPING UP BOXES.
DOING UPCOMING STUDIES WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED.
WE HAD A MEETING COHATCH ON THE 8th TO TALK ABOUT THE
CONSULTANT.
I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME ON THE WEST TAMPA CRA.
MAY BE THERE FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.
I HAVE A GRANDBABY NOW.
TWO MONTH OLD.
NOW A GRANDDADDY.
BELL.
ESTOLITA.
MIDDLE NAME.
MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
I'VE DONE A LOT.
SAY ONE THING, IF I CAN HAVE PRIVILEGE, MADAM CHAIR, ONE

MINUTE.
I HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS.
I WAS AT THE CRA MEETING LAST NIGHT IN DREW PARK.
THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.
THEY REALLY NEED THIS THING, WITH THE RAYS, GOTTEN OUT OF
HAND.
EVEN ATTACKING ME NOW.
YOU TALK JOE ROBINSON, I'LL RETALIATE.
THEY ARE ATTACKING ME.
I STAYED OUT OF IT BUT THEY ARE ATTACKING ME, CURSING ME.
YOU'RE RIGHT, WE GOT THIS NEGATIVE ATTACK THING YESTERDAY.
THROW ME IN THE MIX.
BUT THEY WANT TO THROW ME IN THE MIX, I'M GOING TO TELL
THEM, LIKE I TOLD THEM LAST NIGHT, I WILL DESTROY YOU IF YOU
START TRYING TO DESTROY ME, MY BUSINESS, ENGINEERING OR
ANYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY THAT.
AND I WANT ON THE RECORD I WILL GET THE FBI AND WILL SHUT
THIS WHOLE PROJECT DOWN.
ALL OF THIS PUBLIC CORRUPTION THAT MAY BE GOING ON WILL NEED
TO BE INVESTIGATED FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ALL THE WAY
DOWN TO HERE.
NOW THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY, AND I AM ON THE TAMPA
SPORTS AUTHORITY BOARD.
AND I AM -- BEEN SENT NEGATIVE ATTACKS ABOUT THIS AND THAT
AND TRYING TO PROFITEER FROM SOMETHING THAT I AIN'T EVEN

CLOSE TO.
SCAGLIONE HOUSE CORNER OF THE SPORTS AUTHORITY STADIUM.
DON'T PLAY WITH ME.
I WANT THAT ON THE RECORD.
YOU ALL HAVE A NICE DAY.
10:58:31AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON.
DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
10:58:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS A QUESTION TIME.
10:58:40AM >> OH, I'M SORRY.
I'M SO SORRY.
I LIKE TO KEEP A LITTLE HUMOR.
LIFE IS NOT THAT SERIOUS.
10:58:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE IT.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR UPDATE.
I AM, THOUGH, GOING TO GO BACK TO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT A
LITTLE BIT BECAUSE ALLEYS ARE A PART OF WHAT CRA IS DOING.
I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, WE
ACTUALLY HAVE THE MOBILITY AND DGM HAVE MONEY IN TO FINISH
THE ALLEY STUDY FOR THE REST OF WEST TAMPA.
I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS CRITICAL.
IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT ON THE DAIS
FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT THE CRA STARTED THIS.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE FACT -- WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I EVEN BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE A MOTION COMING FROM OUR CHAIR
LATER TODAY HAVING TO DO WITH REALLY HOW WE DEFINE THE
ALLEYS THAT ARE USABLE TO REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT ALLEYS
CAN AND CAN'T BE USED FOR.
10:59:50AM >> I DIDN'T KNOW.
10:59:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO TELL YOU.
I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE PARK WORK
THAT YOUR CRA IS DOING, AND EVERYTHING ALONG WITH HOUSING.
BEEN ON MAIN STREET RECENTLY.
THE RENOVATION IS REALLY LOVELY.
THE QUICK BUILD IS REALLY GREAT.
IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
11:00:12AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:13AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:00:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ACTUALLY, WE DID IT ON JUNE 4, NEW
BUSINESS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO LET YOU KNOW.
AGAIN, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID OR BOARD MEMBER HURTAK
TODAY, THANK YOU FOR WEST TAMPA CRA FOR STARTING THE ALLEY
PROGRAM.
WE ARE PROGRAMMING MONEY NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO COMPLETE THAT
FOR WEST TAMPA.
BUT ON TOP OF ALL THAT, JUNE 4 IN NEW BUSINESS THIS COUNCIL
DID TAKE ACTION TO DIRECT MOBILITY.

AND BEEN WORKING WITH MOBILITY STAFF TO HAVE MORE OF A
COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO ALLEYS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF
TAMPA TO IDENTIFY WHICH ALLEYS ARE USABLE, WHAT THEY NEED TO
MAKE THEM USABLE SO WE CAN CLEARLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE
COMMUNITY WHAT IS RETAINABLE, WHAT'S NOT, WHAT'S USABLE,
WHAT'S NOT, SO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS IN THERE.
THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, ONE, THE WORK WITH THE WEST
TAMPA CRA HAS DONE WITH THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT AND WITH
THE MOBILITY ON ROME IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLE.
IT'S GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIONAL.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IN WEST TAMPA FOR
FURTHERING THAT PROJECT.
I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE,
THEY ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY PLEASED.
MAIN STREET I THINK IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING
OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN WEST TAMPA AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I THINK, AGAIN, WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, AND WHAT YOUR
LEADERSHIP HAS DONE IN WEST TAMPA WITH MAIN STREET IS
INCREDIBLE.
ONE OF THOSE AREAS PEOPLE ASK ME, WHERE SHOULD I LOOK IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA?
I'M A YOUNG FAMILY, YOUNG PERSON.
I'M SAYING THE CITY OF TAMPA, I SAID WEST TAMPA, MAIN STREET
AREA, GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.

THE TRANSFORMATION THAT'S HAPPENING THERE, FAMILIES ARE
GOING TO RETURN, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING KIDS PLAYING
ON THE STREET.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMAZING AREA.
AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN
DOING AND THE CAC AND CRA BEEN DOING IS REALLY CHANGING THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER.
AND REALLY RECLAIMING IT AS REALLY A JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
ON THE CONTACT ON MAIN STREET, NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY I SEE
YOU SO OFTEN ON MAIN STREET JUST HANGING OUT THERE.
PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THAT AND CONGRATULATIONS,
GRANDPA.
11:02:27AM >> THANK YOU.
11:02:27AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:02:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO SAY, MR. JOE, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE PEOPLE THAT SIT WITH YOU
ON CRA.
THEY HAVE DONE THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE.
MOST ALLEYS IN WEST TAMPA, THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME SIZE AS
YOU WELL KNOW.
FIVE TO SIX FEET TO 12 FEET OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DID IT.
THERE'S CHAIN-LINK FENCE ON BOTH SIDES AND SOME OF THE ALLEY

PUT A BIG OAK TREE SO YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING A
CERTIFICATE CUTTING DOWN THE TREE.
THESE ARE THINGS HAPPENING THANKS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE
WAY YOU WORK.
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH YOUR
COMMITTEE.
THIS IS NOT A ONE-MAN SHOW OR ONE-PERSON SHOW.
IT'S ALL OF YOU WORKING TOGETHER.
BY THE WAY, WEST TAMPA, THAT AREA THERE, THERE ARE NO VACANT
HOMES IN WEST TAMPA.
THEY PUT THEM FOR SALE TODAY, THEY ARE GONE TOMORROW.
I REMEMBER WHEN A LOT OF WEST TAMPA 10, 12 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
YOU CAN'T TOUCH ONE NOW FOR 300 OR MORE.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
SOMETIMES IT'S MORE DIFFICULT THAN WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE THE
SALARIES HAVEN'T KEPT UP TO WHAT IT IS.
THANK YOU AGAIN.
I KNOW YOU STILL HOLD THE RECORD WHERE?
11:03:34AM >> TAMPA CATHOLIC.
11:03:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TAMPA CATHOLIC.
11:03:37AM >> 9.8 SECONDS, HUNDRED YARDS.
THEY DON'T RUN HUNDRED YARDS ANYMORE.
11:03:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I TRIED TO CATCH HIM AND COULDN'T.
THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE.
11:03:44AM >> THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA.

11:03:45AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS AN AWESOME REPORT.
I WILL ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALSO TO THE CAC.
YOU ALL ARE DOING SOME REALLY AMAZING THINGS.
I'VE GONE TO A FEW EVENTS AND JUST HAPPENED TO BE OVER ON
MAIN STREET AND IT DOES LOOK AMAZING.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO COME.
AND ALSO CONGRATULATIONS BEING A GRANDDAD.
11:04:10AM >> I'M OLD NOW.
11:04:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S AWESOME.
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:04:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN WE GET TO THE EAST TAMPA CRP LATER, I'M
GOING TO EXPRESS SOME OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ADMINISTRATION PROJECTS.
BUT I MET WITH THE CONSULTANT FOR THE EAST TAMPA ONE THE
OTHER DAY.
I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB BEING OFF AND ON CHAIR FOR
MANY YEARS AND MOVING PROJECTS ALONG, MY CONCERN IN TALKING
TO THE CONSULTANT IS, YES, THE ATTORNEYS WILL TELL US IT HAS
TO BE BRICKS AND MORTAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WITH AN
AREA LIKE WEST TAMPA, AND I KNOW YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO THIS IS
WHY I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S TOO RICH IN HISTORY TO IGNORE IT.
I TOLD THE CONSULTANT, I SAID YOU CAN ASK ME ALL YOU WANT,

BUT YOU SHOULD REALLY MEET WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN WEST
TAMPA THAT KNOW THE HISTORY.
I SAID HAVE YOU MET WITH EJ SALCINES YET.
CHARLIE CAME ALONG FOR PART OF IT.
I MET WITH EJ, AND EJ FOR TWO HOURS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE
COOLEST EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD.
EJ FOR TWO HOURS WAS TELLING THE CONSULTANT ABOUT THE
HISTORY AND WHAT THINGS WE SHOULD HOLD ON TO.
I HOPE AS YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE GUIDE THEM FORWARD THAT WE
CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN JUST A LIST OF
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW
DO WE HOLD ON TO THE UNIQUE CULTURE OF WEST TAMPA.
AND AS IT DEVELOPS, WHAT IS IT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE AS IT'S
CONTINUING TO CHANGE.
IT WAS JUST, ANYTIME WITH EJ IS FASCINATING.
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAT I WANT TO
MAKE SURE WE HOLD ON TO.
IF WEST TAMPA ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE WATER STREET, IT WILL BE
A REAL SHAME.
11:05:58AM >> THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
LET ME SAY ONE THING HE BROUGHT UP.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PUSHING FOR, BECAUSE WE ARE A NATIONAL
HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WE HAVE A STUDY ALONG THE WAY TO SAVE
OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
WE'RE DOING ANALYSIS.

I'M TELLING STAFF -- NOW THEY MAD AT ME, BUT, YOU KNOW --
THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM FOR OUR WOOD-FRAME
HOUSES, THESE LITTLE SHOTGUN HOUSES, AND THEY CAN BE REHAB
AND PUT INTO THE CONTRACT 30 TO 50 PERCENT AMI, SECTION 8,
PERIOD.
IF YOU WANT THE MONEY, YOU GOT TO GO TO SECTION 8.
THAT'S HOW WE DO IT.
AND THERE ARE A FEW STRUCTURES LEFT OVER THERE THAT ARE
VACANT.
I HAVE A FEW OF THEM.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
THAT WAY YOU SAVE THE SHOTGUN HOUSE.
BRING THE HOUSE UP.
30 TO 50 PERCENT AMI MAX.
IF YOU AIN'T 30, 50 PERCENT, YOU DON'T QUALIFY.
BACK LOG AT TAMPA HOUSING OVER 20 TO 30 THOUSAND SECTION 8.
MY MISSION IS TO GET THAT LIST WHITTLED DOWN.
THANK YOU.
YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
ANYTHING ELSE?
IF NOT, I'LL GET ME SOME BARBECUE.
11:07:06AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
NOW WE ARE MOVING TO DIRECTOR McCRAY.
11:07:10AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.

MR. ROBINSON JUST LEFT.
I WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT NINE EIGHT AND THE HUNDRED WAS --
OR NOT, BUT IT'S BEING RECORDED.
I'M SURE HE'LL CATCH ME UP TO SPEED ON THAT.
GOOD TO BE BEFORE YOU AGAIN THIS MORNING FOR THE CRA BOARD
MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF AND OUR
TEAM ON TOP OF THE MONTHLY CAC MEETINGS WE'VE HAD THAT ARE
PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW.
ON JUNE 4, WE HAD OUR COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS
DISCUSSION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
ON THE 6th, A HOUSING EVENT AT FAIR OAKS PARK RECREATION
FACILITY.
THANK YOU.
SOME OF THE STAFF WERE THERE IN ATTENDANCE AND APPRECIATE
THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON THAT.
THIS PAST MONDAY, WE HAD OUR WEST TAMPA CRP ENGAGEMENT
MEETING.
THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
AS RECENTLY AS LAST NIGHT, YOU HEARD FROM ASTORQUIZA, CAC
CHAIR, RELATED TO THE ENGAGEMENT MEETING WITH THE
INDIVIDUALS FROM THE RAYS.
WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AS

AN AGENCY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND BRING THINGS FORWARD
FOR DISCUSSION.
AS CUSTOMARY, YOU RECEIVED THE CRA PROJECT TRACKER FOR THE
SPECIAL PROJECTS, COMMERCIAL GRANTS AND HOUSING.
AND WE'VE DISCUSSED ANY POINTS THAT YOU ALL HAD DURING THE
BRIEFINGS THIS WEEK.
ANOTHER ITEM UNDER THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT I WOULD LIKE TO
HIGHLIGHT THE ANNUAL AUDIT THAT WE GO THROUGH AND IT WAS
LISTED THAT THE CRA COMPLIED WITH ALL MATERIAL ASPECTS OF
THE AUDIT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY, SO I
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TO INFORM YOU THAT WE ARE IN GOOD
STANDING AND IF WE WEREN'T, I'M SURE ATTORNEY SHEPARD WOULD
LET US KNOW.
11:09:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:09:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE BUT I WANTED TO SAY
THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR TEAM FOR THE UPDATE OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PROJECTS REPORT.
I REALLY LOVED THE WAY THAT THIS MONTH'S INFORMATION WAS
HIGHLIGHTED AND DATED.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THIS, IF YOU ARE INVOLVED WITH THE CAC,
THIS IS IN OUR REPORT, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT NOW
THIS SHOULD BE ADDED TO EVERY AGENDA FOR EACH CRA.
SO WHEN THE CAC MEETS, YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE AT A GLANCE WHAT'S

GOING ON IN YOUR CRA.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER PEOPLE'S
CRAs, CHECK THIS AGENDA BECAUSE EVERY MONTH WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE UPDATED INFORMATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IT'S MADE IT VERY EASY FOR ME TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF SEE
WHERE WE ARE ON CERTAIN PROJECTS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:09:57AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.
THAT IS A CREDIT TO MS. MARTINEZ AND HER TEAM.
WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS
FROM THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEES AND THE BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:10:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANYTHING ELSE, BOARD?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CEDRIC McCRAY.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:10:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
B. PARKS, CRA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, FOR THE
RECORD.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S ACTUALLY HOMEGROWN.
WE HEARD WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR FOR THE PAST
SEVERAL YEARS, ESPECIALLY FOR BUILDING GENERATIONAL WEALTH
WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.

11:10:41AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M SO SORRY.
HOW MUCH TIME?
11:10:43AM >>BELIX PARKS:
GIVE IT ABOUT TEN MINUTES.
I'M JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE IT.
AGAIN, HOMEGROWN.
WE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
DEVELOPED A PROGRAM UNDER THE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION
PART OF OUR 30% ALLOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HELP
SUBSIDIZE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
SO MS. VICTORIA WATSON THROUGH THE LILLIAN LEGACY LLC
PARTNERED WITH GENESIS DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS TO SUBMIT AN
APPLICATION FOR THE WILLIAMS BROWN LEGACY PROJECT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE 31 AFFORDABLE UNITS.
THEY RANGE FROM 30 TO 80 PERCENT AMI.
IT IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT WOULD INCORPORATE SOME RETAIL AND GROCERY SPACE
UNDERNEATH TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S SLATED TO HAVE 26 TWO-BATH, TWO BEDROOM
APARTMENT -- TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH, AND THEN FIVE
ONE-BEDROOM, ONE-BATH UNITS.
I HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE TO EXPLAIN FURTHER.
THEIR ASK IS THE FIVE MILLION AGAIN TO SUPPORT THE
DEVELOPMENT.
I MET WITH SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING THIS.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO PUT SOME PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN

ORDER FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO COME IN SO IT'S CRUCIAL IF
IT'S APPROVED WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONDITIONAL
AGREEMENT.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT PROMPTS THAT PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
IT'S SLATED TO BE A THREE-YEAR COMMITMENT FOR UP TO 166 PER
YEAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR MEMO, YOU SEE THE OTHER COMMITMENTS
WE HAVE FOR EAST TAMPA AS WELL.
EAST TAMPA IS THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED FOR THIS PROGRAM.
I'M GOING TO INVITE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO COME UP.
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THE PRESENTATION?
11:12:55AM >> I'M DR. LENA GRAHAM.
11:12:58AM >> ED JENNINGS.
11:13:00AM >> I'M HAPPY AND PROUD TO BE HERE TO HELP FACILITATE THE
WILLIAMS BROWN LEGACY 34th STREET PROJECT THAT SHE TEED UP
AND YOU HEARD THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YOU HEARD SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS BUT REALLY WE ARE VERY
EXCITED BECAUSE WE HAVE MS. VICTORIA WATSON AND HER DAUGHTER
HERE ALONG WITH THE FAMILY.
WE WERE DOING WHAT WAS COMMISSIONED, WHICH IS TAKING A
PROPERTY OWNER IN EAST TAMPA AND BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THE
LAND.
IT WILL HAVE THE PREMISE AND THE LEGACY, THE ARTWORK THAT
MIMI SPOKE ABOUT, IT WILL BE DISPLAYED IN THIS PROJECT.
WHEN WE GOT THE CALL, WE KNEW WE HAD TO BRING THE BEST TO

GET THIS DONE.
MYSELF, DR. LENA GRAHAM, I HAVE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN
CONSTRUCTION WITH A MULTIGENERATIONAL BACKGROUND OF
CONSTRUCTION, HOUSING, AND MICRODEVELOPMENT.
MY CODEVELOPER, WHO IS ED JENNINGS, I CALL HIM THE GOAT.
HE HAS A BACKGROUND IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA.
HE SERVED TWO TERMS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE HOUSING
URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE DONALD ODOM.
I WORKED WITH HIM PERSONALLY ABOUT 12 TO 15 YEARS.
THE THING UNIQUE ABOUT WORKING WITH DONALD, WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO DO PROJECTS HERE IN TAMPA AND MAXIMIZE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND KEEPING TAX DOLLARS WITHIN THE AREA BECAUSE
WE WORK WITH SUBCONTRACTORS AND ABLE TO GIVE THEM SOME
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND SO FORTH AND TO HELP BRING THEM TO
THE TABLE AND GET THEM READY.
THIS IS A PRIME PROJECT TO CONTINUE GROWTH ALL THE WAY
AROUND.
JUST A SNAPSHOT ABOUT THE PROJECT.
IT'S GEARED TO 30 TO 80 PERCENT AMI.
IT IS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE, AND
WORKFORCE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING SO MUCH
ABOUT AND TALKING THROUGH.
IT'S ALSO A UNIQUE PROJECT BECAUSE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT

PUTTING DENSITY IN EAST TAMPA.
SO VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THE 31 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THE
COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT WILL BE A PART OF IT.
SOME OF THE CONTEXT AND LOGISTICS OF WHERE IT IS.
IT'S LOCATED AT 2917 NORTH 34th STREET.
AND IT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE HART 34th STREET ROUTE.
SO THE TRANSPORTATION IS THERE.
AND WITH THE CONCENTRATION ON OUR SENIORS AND WORKFORCE
HOUSING, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALSO EXCITED ABOUT, WE'VE BEEN
TALKING WITH CHIEF TRIPP AND SOME OF THE OTHER FIRST
RESPONDERS TO HAVE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING SECTION TO BE ABLE
TO MAYBE BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS IN THAT
FIRST YEAR.
THAT IS A CHALLENGE.
SOMETIMES THE SALARY IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND WE, OF
COURSE, HAVE THE SENIOR COMPONENT.
I'LL PASS IT TO MY CODEVELOPER, ED JENNINGS, TO TAKE IT
FURTHER IN THE PRESENTATION.
11:15:56AM >> THANK YOU, LENA.
MADAM CHAIR, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, AND TO THE OTHER BOARD
MEMBERS.
AGAIN, ED JENNINGS.
DR. LENA TALKED ABOUT MY AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXPERIENCE BUT
I'LL PERSONALIZE IS A LITTLE BIT THAT I AM A SON OF COLLEGE

HILL BECAUSE MY DAD WAS NUMBER 10 OF 14 WHO WENT TO
MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
ALSO A FORMER CITY COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR OF THE CITY OF
GAINESVILLE.
SO I KNOW THE PAIN YOU HAVE BEING CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
AND ROLLING OVER TO BE CITY COUNCILMEN.
I SAT AT HIS FOOTSTEPS FOR YEARS WITH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THESE THINGS WORK.
BUT I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
THIS IS THE BEST OF WHAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, TO
NOT JUST HAVE FOLKS LIKE LENA AND MYSELF COME IN AND ASSIST,
BUT TO DEAL WITH AND SUPPORT FAMILIES WHO ARE HOMEGROWN IN
THIS COMMUNITY, TO DEVELOP 31 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
AGAIN AT 30, 50, AND 80 AMI, UP TO 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF
COMMERCIAL, APPROPRIATE MIXED USE WITH THE ZONING THAT WE
HAVE THERE.
DOING A PD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND SET ASIDE FOR 50 YEARS.
IN A YEAR TALKING ABOUT AMERICA 250, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT
HAVING AN INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE MULTIGENERATIONAL
OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THE STAFF TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THE 31 UNITS.
26 TWO-BEDROOM, TWO-BATH UNITS, FIVE ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH
UNITS AND THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAVE IN THE PACKET THE INFORMATION FROM FLORIDA HOUSING
THAT TALKS ABOUT EVERY YEAR YOU ALL KNOW THIS, AROUND APRIL

OR MAY, THE FLORIDA HOUSING GETS A LETTER FROM HUD TALKING
ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND ALSO HAVING COUNTIES IN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS IN REGARD TO NOT WHAT'S IN YOUR
PACKET, YOU LOOK IN THE SHEET THERE THAT WE PUT UP ON THE
GUIDE, WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES AS LOW AS 27,000
FAMILY INCOME FOR FAMILY OF FOUR UP TO 91,000.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE AND OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE
TO SUPPORT THOSE FAMILIES.
AND EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS MAKE SURE THE HARD -- GET A
CHANCE TO STAY IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SENIORS, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AS DR. LENA TALKED ABOUT.
THAT WILL BE A BIG ISSUE.
THE NEXT ISSUE THAT YOU SEE THERE IS THE CAPITAL STACK THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 5 MILLION FROM YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN
FORTUNATE FOR THE CAC TO RECOMMEND.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET SUPPORT FROM YOU TODAY ON THIS
INVESTMENT.
WE ARE LOOKING AT PRIVATE DEBT OF ABOUT 4.5 MILLION AND
ANOTHER 3.3 MILLION OF SOME INVESTMENT IN CAPITAL.
WE'LL STILL BE VALUE ENGINEERING THIS PROJECT, GETTING THE
NUMBERS TIGHTER AND TIGHTER.
HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BETTER INTEREST RATE TO BORROW A LITTLE

MORE MONEY.
GET THAT DOWN OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE NOW AND WE BELIEVE THIS CAN
WORK.
WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO COME BACK TO YOU.
AND DISCUSS THE IDEA OF THE 30% AND 50% UNITS NEEDING MORE
SUBSIDY.
WE BELIEVE WE ARE GOING DEEPER THAN OTHER PROJECTS HAVE.
LIKE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPORT GOING
FORWARD.
NEXT SLIDE YOU HAVE ABOUT 70% OF THE MONEY, OF COURSE, WILL
BE HARD COST CONSTRUCTION, TRYING TO MAKE THAT WORK.
AS DR. LENA TALKED ABOUT, WE PRIDE OURSELVES PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE DR. LENA'S EXPERTISE USING LOCAL SUBS AND
CONTRACTORS, BEING ABLE TO KEEP THAT MONEY RIGHT HERE AND
CIRCULATE NOT JUST IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BUT IN THIS PART,
THIS CRA, SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AND DEVELOP AND DEVELOP THEIR
TRADES AND SEE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
NEXT WE HAVE TIMELINE.
THERE WILL BE A LITTLE FUDGE ON THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE PD PROCESS THROUGH YOU WITH THE CITY.
WE THINK 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
MAY PUSH A LITTLE BIT PAST 24 MONTH TIMELINE.

GO THROUGH YOUR PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS WITH
PARKING, DEALING WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., WATER RETENTION ISSUES
AND MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN.
WE WANT TO HAVE A TYPE PROJECT THAT IS DEVELOPED TO YOUR
STANDARDS.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, MAKING THE COMMUNITY AND MS. WILLIAMS'
FAMILY PROUD.
WHAT WE'RE MOST EXCITED ABOUT HERE, PARTICULARLY FOR ME AND
I THINK LENA FEELS THE SAME, WE COULD HAVE COME IN AND SAID
AMEN BASED ON WHAT THE CITIZENS SAID.
YOU DON'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPECTFULLY IN COMMUNITIES
LIKE THIS WHERE PEOPLE GET EXCITED ABOUT SOMETHING, NOT
BECAUSE OF LENA OR MYSELF, BECAUSE IT IS CONNECTED TO THEIR
OWN HISTORY.
MY PARENTS ARE ALSO BETHUNE-COOKMAN GRADUATES.
MY DAD COLLEGE HILL GRADUATE AND WENT TO COLLEGE HILL
BAPTIST CHURCH, THAT KIND OF COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY IS
SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT EASY FOR ME TO DRIVE FROM
GAINESVILLE DOWN HERE TO BE CONNECTED TO NOT ONLY MY HISTORY
PERSONALLY BUT TO THE FAMILY BECAUSE THESE FOLKS REALLY
BELIEVE.
THERE IS A DEARTH IN TRUST RIGHT NOW OF DO YOU CARE ABOUT
US?
ARE YOU CONNECTED?
DO YOU BELIEVE IN US?

YOU ARE HEARING FROM THEM TODAY.
NOT HEARING JUST FROM THE PAID HARD GUNS INVESTED IN WHAT'S
GOING ON, BUT HEARING FROM THEM.
THEY SAID TO MAN AND WOMAN, HOW SERIOUS AND COMMITTED THEY
ARE.
THE IDEAS DEALING WITH WHAT BEEN LABELED DESANTIS
OPPORTUNITY.
SAVINGS, COST, CUT, RESPONSE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, HAVE TO
BUILD MORE.
PARTICULARLY BUILDING AND COMMERCIAL.
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH BUDGET SHORTFALLS?
HAVING ROI ON INVESTMENT OF THE CRA MONEY NOT JUST GOING IN,
BUT GOING IN AND RETURNING IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
BY THE TIME SHOULD THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA
DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE 250K CAP, YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING
FOR IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS THINGS IN THE PIPELINE, MAKING
SURE THAT YOU CAN OFFSET SOME OF THAT WITH NEW INCOME THAT
WE CAN PUT BACK IN THE COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE
SAME SERVICES.
WE ARE THANKFUL THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HEARD.
THIS PROJECT AND IN CLOSING, DAD TAUGHT ME DON'T FORGET TO
ASK.
MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT
FOR THE $5 MILLION ASK FOR THIS INVESTMENT PROJECT THAT'S

GOING TO GIVE YOU A GREAT ROI FOR THE COMMUNITY, MOST
IMPORTANTLY, HOUSING THAT FOR DECADES TO COME AND HAVE
COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT IN A COMMUNITY THAT SORELY NEEDS IT.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
11:22:23AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:22:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS.
11:22:32AM >> YES, SIR.
11:22:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
FIRST, THE AMI PERCENTAGES, 30 TO 80, I THINK THAT'S SO
IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE WE SEE NUMBERS AND HEAR NUMBERS MUCH HIGHER THAN
THAT.
YOU HAD A CHART THAT SHOWED THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS 30,
WHAT IS 50.
SO YOU ARE ADDRESSING THE MOST CRITICAL OF OUR COMMUNITY.
11:22:51AM >> YES, SIR.
11:22:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD.
WE TALK ABOUT FOOD EASY EFFORTS.
WE TALK ABOUT AREAS WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO
HEALTHY FOOD GROCERY STORES OR EVEN SMALLER LOCATIONS.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE THAT.
HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY WORTHY
INVESTMENT AND WE NEED MORE OF THIS.
I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE IT AND I LOVE THE PROJECT.
11:23:16AM >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH.
11:23:18AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:23:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND
BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE REGION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ONE, IF YOU'VE HEARD ME IN THE PAST, I'VE BEEN SKEPTICAL A
LOT OF TIMES WHEN PROPOSALS COME TO THE FLOOR OF CRA WITH
SUBSIDIES THIS I AM NOT SKEPTICAL ABOUT.
ANYBODY ELSE WATCHING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO A POINT WHERE WE WON'T REQUIRE THESE
TYPE OF SUBSIDIES, THESE WILL BE ORGANIC.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE CATALYSTS TO BE ABLE TO START THIS PROCESS.
I LOOK AT THIS AS A CATALYST PROPOSAL.
YOU ARE AT A GREAT LOCATION.
IT IS TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO BROUGHT UP, YOUR PERCENTAGE OF AMI
ARE I THINK APPROPRIATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MIXED INCOME TO BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT YOU ARE

HAVING THERE AS WELL.
I THINK THE FACT THAT IT IS LOCAL AND HOMEGROWN, KUDOS TO
YOU ALL AND KUDOS TO THE INSPIRATION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER
TO SEEK THIS AND LOOK FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
I REALLY WANT TO HIT ON THE ROI YOU SPOKE OF, AS WE GO INTO
THESE THINGS, PROJECTS, ROI AGAIN BECAUSE THAT BECOMES
TRANSFORMATIONAL AND HELPS AS THE PROJECTS ROLL AND
HOPEFULLY ACCUMULATE, GENERATE MORE SUCCESS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL LOOK FOR.
I LIKE THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT.
MY ONLY REGRET OF THE PROJECT AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S WHERE
WE ARE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE, IT REQUIRES THE
SURFACE OF THE PARKING BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A TRANSPORTATION
CORRIDOR.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT WE HAVE VIABLE, RELIABLE
TRANSIT THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AND HAVE
FOLKS LIVING HERE AND HAVE COMMERCIAL DOWN ON THE GROUND.
I GET THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
HOPEFULLY BECAUSE OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD,
THERE WILL BE A TIME WE CAN BUILD THIS WITHOUT SO MUCH
PARKING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE FOR
LESS COST PER SQUARE FOOT.
AGAIN, I HOPE THAT THE NUMBERS WORK THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
BUILD A BUILDING AS BEAUTIFUL -- I GET VALUE ENGINEER AND
ALL.

HOPEFULLY DELIVER A BUILDING AS BEAUTIFUL AS WHAT YOU
DISPLAYED HERE TODAY.
KUDOS TO YOU.
I CONGRATULATE THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT AND BEING
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
11:25:46AM >> BOARD MEMBER, BEFORE YOU GO ON TO THE NEXT COMMENT, THANK
YOU TO YOU BECAUSE YOU SET THE STANDARD.
YOU HAD TO AGREE WITH THE COMMUNITY COMING TO YOU IN REGARD
TO HAVING MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THESE KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES
AND DEALING WITH THE 30, 50, 80, UP TO 120 SET-ASIDES.
THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR CONVERSATION
LATER TODAY HOW THAT MAY CHANGE.
WE MAY ASK FOR MORE.
WE MAY NEED THAT TO MAKE THIS WORK.
IT'S IMPORTANT IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE ALSO HAVING
WITH REGARD TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE, HARD-PRESSED, EVERY
SMALL PROJECT HAS TO DEAL WITH S.W.F.W.M.D. ISSUE.
WATER RETENTION ISSUE.
CAN WE DO SOMETHING AS A LARGE POND IN THE AREA THAT
EVERYBODY CAN BUY CREDITS IN.
THOSE KIND OF UNIQUE CREDITS.
HOPEFULLY THIS BEGINS TO START THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT
COSTS TOO MUCH TO DO UNDERWATER, UNDERGROUND EVERY TIME.
ALL THEY DO IS COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

LOOK AT THE REGION, EXISTING PONDS, MAYBE SOME OF THE PARK
SPACE AND MAKING BIG PONDS, MAKING THEM CUTE AND PRETTY AND
HAVING A LITTLE WATER RETENTION WITH A LITTLE WATERFALL
THERE, UNIQUE THINGS TO DO WITH PEOPLE WAY SMARTER THAN ME
THAT HAVE DONE IN OTHER PLACES.
WE WANT TO USE THIS AS A MODEL.
AGAIN WITH THE ATTITUDE I HEARD TODAY AND HEARD HISTORICALLY
THAT YOU ALL HAVE IS OPEN AND BEING CREATIVE.
THAT WILL BEAR FRUIT AND HAVE OTHER PEOPLE REPLICATE IT IN
CRAs LOCALLY BUT ALSO AROUND THE STATE AND COUNTRY.
THAT'S THE KIND OF ENERGY WE LOVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE ENERGY.
11:27:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR THE REMARKS.
FASCINATING CONCEPT.
LEARNING EXPERIENCE.
I WAS AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER, NOT A LAND DEVELOPMENT
PERSON.
I HAVE TO LEARN AS WE GO ON THESE TYPE OF ISSUES.
I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING THAT.
MAKE SURE YOU BRING TO ATTENTION, IF YOU HIT ROADBLOCKS ON
THE IDEA, I LOVE THE IDEA OF SHARED RESOURCE, BUY IN TO
PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT AS CATALYST TO FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU RUN INTO ROADBLOCKS ON THE CONCEPT, CONTACT MY
OFFICE.
LOVE TO HELP YOU OUT ON THAT.

11:27:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU GUYS HAD ME AT OBAMA.
I'M JOKING, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
SIR, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU WERE IN THE LEGISLATURE.
11:28:06AM >> FOR A FEW DAYS.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE 2006, REPRESENTING
GAINESVILLE/OCALA.
FORTUNATE TO SERVE WITH -- 2004-06 AS WELL.
THAT'S WHY I SAY I KNOW YOUR PAIN AND EXCITEMENT BECAUSE OF
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IS A WONDERFUL ONE.
YES, SIR, I DID HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
11:28:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THAT REGARD IN
BOTH THE WORK YOU DO.
OBVIOUSLY, VERY GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN MY PHILOSOPHICAL BELIEF ON THE
ROLE OF GOVERNMENT AND WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING,
WHICH IS EMPOWER PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP TO ACHIEVE DIGNITY.
THAT'S WHAT CRAs ARE HERE TO DO AS WELL.
CRAs CAN FUNCTION.
IF YOU ARE A FAN OF THE MOVIE, "IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE," IT'S
THE BAILEY BUILDING & LOAN, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE DO
WHICH IS HELP PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, WHO ARE PUTTING
EVERYTHING THEY GOT OUT THERE, WORKING HARD, RAISING THEIR
FAMILIES, DOING THE RIGHT THING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SENIORS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, FIRST RESPONDERS,
POLICE OFFICERS, AND FIREFIGHTERS AND THE HARD WORK THEY DO.
PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST DOING THE RIGHT THING AND CHANGE FOR THE
RIGHT THING.
THEY DESERVE DIGNITY, AND DIGNITY BEGINS WITH A ROOF OVER
YOUR HEAD.
PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS.
GREAT CONCEPT, GREAT IDEA WITH A LOT OF GOOD VALUES BEHIND
IT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
11:29:32AM >> I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU IN THIS TIME, WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH
CONSTERNATION BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU HAD A TOUGH
ISSUE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND YOU WORK THROUGH
IT TOGETHER.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN LEADERSHIP.
MYOPIC MIND, OH, AGREE, AGREE, AGREE.
NO, DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE, EVERYONE GET
A CHANCE TO BE HEARD, WE WANT TO MIMIC YOU AND SEE WHAT OUR
ELECTED LEADERS ARE DOING.
FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE THAT SPIRIT, THAT SAYS TO ME THERE'S
NOTHING WE CAN'T DO.
LIKE I SAID, I'M REALLY GETTING EXCITED ABOUT THE AMERICA
250 ISSUE AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO REPRESENT TO OUR CHILDREN
AND CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING HERE TODAY.
LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU A
FEW MORE TIMES GOING FORWARD.
11:30:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL.
ALSO, I WAS BORN IN TAMPA AND RAISED IN GAINESVILLE.
YOUR FATHER.
IN FACT, I'M HEADING THERE THIS WEEKEND TO SEE MY MOTHER.
SHE'S STILL UP THERE.
I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS PROJECT IS OUR FIRST LEGACY PROJECT, AS YOU MENTIONED.
AND I REALLY LOVE HEARING THAT NOT ONLY IS THIS CREATED
LOCALLY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO REACH OUT AND USE LOCAL
WORKERS.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DID YOUR HOMEWORK.
YOU WENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND THAT BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN IS RIGHT.
THERE WILL BE SOME CHALLENGES TO THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW
PROJECT.
DON'T BE STRANGERS TO US BECAUSE THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA.
YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO DO LEGACY PROJECT.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT DOESN'T WORK, WHAT IS WORKING.

FOR BETTER, FOR WORSE, YOU ARE PAVING FOR THE NEXT FOLKS WHO
COME ALONG.
JUST KEEP US UPDATED WITH IT.
I AGREE THIS IS A LOVELY PROJECT.
I WILL TELL YOU AS YOU COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL AS A
REZONING, I'M A BIG BIKE ADVOCATE, SO I'M GOING TO EXPECT
PROTECTED BICYCLE PARKING, LIKE SECURE BIKE PARKING BECAUSE
THAT IS A WAY THAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS CAN AFFORD TO GET
AROUND NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADVENT OF E-BIKES.
SO THE PLACE THAT THEY CAN STORE THAT SAFELY SO THAT THEY
ARE SECURE, ALSO PARKING FOR YOUR CLIENTS THAT GO TO THE
GROCERY STORE OR WHATEVER RETAIL YOU HAVE THERE.
SO PLAN FOR THAT IS THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE
ALONG WITH THE OTHER THINGS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:32:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:32:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
WE AS THE CRA BOARD, SEPARATE FROM CITY COUNCIL, CREATED A
STRATEGIC PLAN A FEW YEARS AGO.
IT TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE DESIGNING BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE
IN NEIGHBORHOODS INSTEAD OF JUST BUILDING SOMETHING COOKIE
CUTTER.
IT TALKED ABOUT BUILDING NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS
SO WE COULD BRING FOOD, GROCERY STORES, OTHER SERVICES TO
COMMUNITIES.

AND IT TALKED ABOUT FINDING, TARGETING LOWER AMI INDIVIDUALS
SO THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THE CORE OF
THE CITY.
I THINK THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT IF IT ENDS UP LIKE THAT,
HOPEFULLY IT WILL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SENSITIVE TO A LOT
OF ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY.
I CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY.
I JUST HAVE TO SAY, THE REASON WHY I PUSHED SO HARD FOR THE
INDEPENDENCE OF THE CRA IS THIS IS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.
THE CITY HAS A GOAL OF 10,000 UNITS, AND THEY COUNT UP TO
180% AMI.
WE'RE PUSHING FOR SMALLER, QUALITY PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE NOT
JUST BUILDINGS, WE'RE NOT JUST COUNTING UNITS, BUT WE'RE
COUNTING AMENITIES THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK THIS WILL DO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
11:33:46AM >> YES, SIR.
11:33:46AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:33:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I APOLOGIZE.
ANYWAY, WHAT'S BEEN SAID THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID, I WISH THE
PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND ALL THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, THAT

YOU'RE DOING.
NOT US, YOU.
31 UNITS ACTIVATING A STREET THAT NEEDS TO BE ACTIVATED SOME
MORE.
7.8 MILLION THAT'S YOUR CASH OR FINANCING CASH.
11:34:11AM >> COMBINATION.
11:34:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CRA HAS REQUESTED 5 MILLION OR TOTAL
OF 12.8 MILLION.
11:34:18AM >> YES, SIR.
11:34:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOR 31 UNITS, DIVIDE THAT, WHAT DO YOU
GET PER UNIT?
11:34:23AM >> THE NUMBER PER UNIT ALL IN, I'LL TAKE OUT WHEN WE DO
THAT, TAKE OUT THE COMMERCIAL AS A PART OF THAT
CONVERSATION, SO WE'RE PROBABLY AROUND 350 A UNIT NOW.
WE WANT TO GET THAT DOWN TO BELOW THREE.
WE GOT A LITTLE CONSTRUCTION RESERVE IN THERE.
THE ONLY GOOD PART ABOUT THE ECONOMY SUFFERING RESPECTFULLY
TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE, THEY ARE A
LITTLE HUNGRIER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BOOMING ECONOMY.
WE BELIEVE OUR GOAL IS TO PUSH HARD, PARTICULARLY USING SOME
LOCALS THAT DR. LENA HAS EXTRAORDINARY HISTORY WITH.
WE WANT TO GET THE NUMBER BELOW 300 A UNIT.
11:35:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT IS A TIGHT BUDGET.
PLUS WITH A MINUS.
11:35:07AM >> ON THE WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES, ONE OF YOUR COUNCIL

MEMBERS -- BOARD MEMBERS, WHO I WON'T LOOK AT, TIGHTNESS FOR
MY BICYCLES AND SOME OTHER COSTS.
JUST EVER SO MUCH TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IT IS GETTING LOCAL SUBS IN A ROOM.
THERE ARE SO MANY MEN AND WOMEN WHO DO A THING WELL BUT
DON'T KNOW HOW TO BUDGET WELL.
PART OF IT IS NOT JUST DOING IT WELL BUT THE TRAINING AND
EXPERTISE THAT LENA HAS, LET'S ORDER TOGETHER.
LET'S TIGHTEN UP THE BUDGET.
DELIVER A PROJECT ON BUDGET THAT WORKS FOR YOU BUT ALSO MAY
AGAIN REQUIRING MORE SUBSIDY TO MAKE IT WORK.
WE'RE AROUND THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW.
11:35:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE REASON I WASN'T TESTING YOUR NUMBERS
-- THEY SAY, WELL, WHAT DOES IT COST?
WHEN I ASK THE QUESTION, TELL YOU THE PRICE IS REALLY
UNBELIEVABLE COMPARED TO WHAT IT'S COSTING US SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
11:36:02AM >> YES, SIR.
11:36:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
11:36:05AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WELL, I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU BOTH.
IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I WILL ECHO A LOT OF THE SENTIMENTS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I THINK BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK
FOR.

IT'S THOUGHTFUL.
IT'S INTENTIONAL.
YOU CAN TELL IN THE DESIGN AND WITH THE AMIs AND FOOD
ACCESS, THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT, THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF
PROJECT THAT WE LOOK FOR.
IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION, SAID THIS IS NOT
GENTRIFICATION.
IT'S GENERATIONAL STEWARDSHIP.
AS WE TALK ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, IT'S NO SECRET THAT THERE IS A
WEALTH GAP, YOU KNOW, IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO FIX THAT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND HOW DO, YOU KNOW,
HOW DO WE BEGIN TO EVEN TRY AND CLOSE THAT WEALTH GAP, THIS
IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO IT.
THIS IS GENERATIONAL STEWARDSHIP.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP, YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS AND
GRANDPARENTS TOLD ME THE IMPORTANCE OF GENERATIONAL WEALTH
AND BEING ABLE TO PASS DOWN THINGS TO YOUR FAMILY AND TO
YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN'S GRANDCHILDREN, SO I
THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
THE FAMILY HAS DONE HERE IS AMAZING.
THIS MULTIGENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK THAT IS HUGE.
AND FOR THIS TO BE THE FIRST LEGACY PROJECT FOR THIS BOARD
IS ALSO SOMETHING TO BE VERY PROUD OF.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY EXCITED.
I'M VERY EXCITED.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD.
I WOULD ALSO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW,
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE.
AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU.
11:37:56AM >> MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T WANT TO END WITHOUT SAYING TWO
THINGS.
ONE, I THINK IT IS FORTUITOUS THAT YOU ARE SITTING,
RESPECTFUL TO YOUR COLLEAGUES, IN THE CHAIR SEAT TODAY.
HISTORY WILL KNOW WHEN WE START A LEGACY, IT WAS A YOUNG
LADY WHO CAME FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO REPRESENTS THIS
DISTRICT WHO HAPPENED TO BE CHAIR, WITH EXTRAORDINARY
COLLEAGUES, TO DO THAT.
THE PERSON I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LEAVE OUT IS
MS. VICTORIA.
THIS IS ALL NICE.
UNTIL YOU HAVE A VISION FROM A DAUGHTER AND GRANDDAUGHTER --
[ APPLAUSE ]
THAT IS WHY -- SHE DOESN'T GET ALL THE DEVELOPMENT
CONVERSATION.
SHE JUST KNEW AND WAS TAUGHT FROM A LITTLE SCHOOL IN DAYTONA
BEACH FLORIDA, THAT THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING,

PAY IT FORWARD.
IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY I CAN MAKE TODAY AND SELL
SOMETHING OFF.
THE IDEA I NEED TO BEGIN TO DO SOMETHING, NOT A BAD THING TO
HAVE PEOPLE THAT KIND OF LOOK LIKE YOU, THAT CONNECT WITH
YOU, TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MULTIGENERATIONAL.
HER AND HER FAMILY ARE THE ONES THAT WE REALLY WANT TO THANK
TODAY.
GIVE HER A SECOND, IF SHE WANTS TO, ONLY IF YOU WANT TO, TO
SAY HI AND SAY SOMETHING, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR DEAL AND I
DON'T WANT TO TAKE ALL THE TIME AND YOU NOT HAVE THE CHANCE
TO SAY SOMETHING.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:39:13AM >> I'M VICTORIA WILLIAMS WATSON.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT, MY TEAM FOR
ALL THEIR SUPPORT.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED.
MY MOTHER LOOKING DOWN ON US, I HOPE, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO DO AND KEEP ALL THE GENERATIONAL WEALTH IN EAST TAMPA,
ESPECIALLY.
THANK YOU.
11:39:31AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
11:39:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO MOVE THE FILE TO ACCEPT THIS
PROPOSAL.

11:39:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECOND.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO.
11:39:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE CRA 26-24444.
11:39:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF TO WORK
WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THE $5 MILLION REQUEST.
11:39:50AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:59AM >> AYE.
11:40:01AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IN FORMALITY, HAVE TO ASK IF ANY ARE OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 4, WE RECEIVED AND FILED.
NOW WE ARE MOVING TO -- GO AHEAD, DIRECTOR McCRAY?
11:40:33AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD MORNING.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATIONS DURING THE SETTING OF
THE AGENDA.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION RELATED TO THE
COMMERCIAL GRANTS OR --
11:40:51AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WHAT WOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:40:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, I MEAN, DEE SUBMITTED THE REPORT ON
THAT.

ANY FURTHER DIRECTION YOU NEED OTHER THAN ACCEPTING HER
REPORT?
11:41:17AM >>DEE REED:
DEE REED, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
JUST THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BRIEFINGS
THAT WE WOULD NEED YOU ALL TO DISCUSS AND AT LEAST GIVE US
DIRECTION ON.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO THE FULL PRESENTATION.
THOSE ITEMS WOULD BE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT VALUE.
JUST DETERMINING IF YOU ALL WANTED TO UTILIZE A PERCENTAGE
IN RELATION TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT TO THE TOTAL REQUEST
AMOUNT.
AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL WHETHER YOU WANT
THE APPLICATIONS PRESENTED BY TYPE OR BY DISTRICT, AND THEN
YOUR EVALUATION APPROACH.
IF YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO DETAILS, AGAIN, I CAN.
11:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK BY TYPE I THINK WE NEED TO
EVALUATE THEM AS YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, NOT NECESSARILY
BY DISTRICT -- I'M SORRY, BY DISTRICT NOT NECESSARILY BY --
[INDISCERNIBLE]
IS THAT WHAT WE AGREED TO?
BY DISTRICT.
11:42:21AM >> YES.
11:42:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING STREAM IS.
I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THAT,
TOO CHAOTIC TO COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES IF WE DID IT ANY

OTHER WAY.
ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT?
BY DISTRICT.
WHAT WAS THE OTHER ISSUE?
11:42:36AM >>DEE REED:
THEN DETERMINING HOW YOU WANTED TO APPLY VALUE
TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN RELATION TO THE TOTAL REQUEST
AMOUNT.
11:42:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU'LL HAVE TO HELP ME ON THAT ONE BECAUSE
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.
11:42:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW, DON'T WE -- ISN'T THERE
A PERCENTAGE ATTACHED TO THE ONES AT THE CITY?
OKAY.
MAYBE A LITTLE MORE --
11:43:06AM >>DEE REED:
ON THAT TOPIC, I'LL LET OUR ATTORNEY KIND OF
FILL IN OR GO OVER THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE
BRIEFING TO GUIDE YOU FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
[ LAUGHTER ]
11:43:22AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SHALL WE RESTATE THE QUESTION?
11:43:26AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO NOT GO
THROUGH IT AGAIN.
WE DISCUSSED WITH ALL OF YOU THE CONCERNS I HAD ABOUT THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENTS.
11:43:36AM >>DEE REED:
NOT THE WHOLE CONCERNS.
JUST WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY NEED TO DETERMINE
THE PERCENTAGE OF THE VALUE IN RELATION TO THE REQUEST

AMOUNT.
JUST THAT PIECE.
11:43:44AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THRESHOLD, RIGHT NOW OURS
IS 500,000.
WE HAD CONSIDERED AND HOW IT STARTED WITH TRYING TO GET OUR
POLICY CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S POLICY AND THAT LED TO A
DEEPER DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUES THAT I PERSONALLY FEEL ARE
WORTH CONSIDERING WHEN IT COMES TO CBAs, GENERALLY.
REGARDLESS, WHATEVER THE THRESHOLD IS, AND AS THE NUMBER
GOES UP, WHAT -- DO WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A PERCENTAGE OR AT
LEAST A BENCHMARK SO STAFF CAN EVALUATE WHEN SOMEONE IS
PROPOSING A SPECIFIC PROJECT, WHETHER IT IS SIGNIFICANT
ENOUGH IN VALUE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT?
BECAUSE AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR A
COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH VARIOUS
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM WHICH THE MONEY
IS COMING, TO MAKE UP THAT AGREEMENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING THAT WOULD GIVE GUIDANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO STAFF TO
SAY, WELL, IF IT IS A MILLION DOLLAR, THEY NEED TO SPEND
HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON CBA OR 25 OR 50 OR SOME
PERCENTAGE, WHATEVER IT IS, IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST 5% OR
10% OR 15 OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.
RECOGNIZING, AS I'VE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF, THAT SOME

PROJECTS HAVE INHERENT VALUE THAT MIGHT REDUCE OR NEGATE
ALTOGETHER THE REQUIREMENT FOR COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT
AND OTHERS LESS SO, AND SOME MIGHT BE SORT OF IN BETWEEN.
IT WOULDN'T BE -- THIS IS GOING TO BE IT AND YOU HAVE TO
MEET THE THRESHOLD EVERY SINGLE TIME, OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS
ARE ALWAYS KIND OF THE LAST DECIDING FACTOR ABOUT WHAT IT IS
THAT IS SUFFICIENT OR INSUFFICIENT.
IT'S A STARTING POINT SO THAT WHEN THEY ARE TALKING TO THE
GRANT RECIPIENT OR APPLICANT, THEY CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS
WHAT WE TYPICALLY HAVE LOOKED AT BEFORE.
11:45:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA.
11:45:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THROW ON MY LIGHT BEFORE YOU FINISH YOUR
DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WAS RINGING IN MY
EARS, EVERY PROJECT IS SO DIFFERENT AND CERTAIN INTRINSIC
THINGS ABOUT A PROJECT THAT MAY RISE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT
WOULD BE IN A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
MY GUT TELLS ME THAT THIS IS -- UNFORTUNATELY EVERY ONE OF
THE CRA PROJECTS ARE VERY UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, GENERALLY.
LIKE WE JUST SAW SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.
WHETHER WE'RE DEALING WITH REDEVELOPMENT OF THE STRAZ VERSUS
WE'RE DOING HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA OR A BASEBALL STADIUM IN
DREW PARK, THEY ARE ALL SO VERY DIFFERENT, I DON'T KNOW IF
IT'S EVEN FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO PIN IT DOWN WITH BOARD
POLICY RATHER THAN DEFERRING TO STAFF'S EXPERTISE TO WORK
WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE PERSON APPLYING, THE APPLICANT, TO

NARROW IT DOWN AND USING THEIR EXPERTISE TO NEGOTIATE
BASICALLY THE BEST DEAL AND HAVE THE DEAL PRESENTED TO THE
BOARD FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO TRUST OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO
DO.
11:47:02AM >> STAFF INTERACTS WITH APPLICANTS.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT QUESTIONS
THEY ARE GOING TO GET ON THESE TOPICS IS, WELL, HOW MUCH
SHOULD WE BE SPENDING OR WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS ARE YOU
INTERESTED IN AND SO FORTH.
OF COURSE, THAT GOES TO THE BROADER DISCUSSION OF WHERE IS
THE MONEY ACTUALLY COMING FROM VERSUS WHERE DEVELOPERS MIGHT
SAY IT'S COMING FROM.
11:47:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK I WOULD SAY FOR THE STAFF GET YOUR
BEST USED CAR SALESMAN ON IT AND GET THE BEST DEAL YOU CAN.
11:47:33AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
TURN YOUR MIKE ON.
11:47:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO KNOCK IT DOWN TO THINGS THAT WE
CAN ALL UNDERSTAND.
REALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A DOWN PAYMENT ON YOUR
HOUSE, WHEN YOU'RE BUYING A HOUSE, HOW MUCH IS SOMEBODY
GOING TO PUT IN THE KITTY AND HOW MUCH IS THE CRA GOING TO
PUT IN THE KITTY TO MAKE THE PROJECT FEASIBLE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMING DOWN TO, CORRECT?
11:47:54AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
IT IS A DECENT ENOUGH ANALOGY.

AS WE DISCUSSED IN INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, MY CONCERN OR
ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT KNOWING THAT THIS IS A
REQUIREMENT, REQUEST FOR THE MONEY ON THE FRONT SIDE IS JUST
GOING TO GET LARGER PROPORTIONALLY.
THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH LARGER?
11:48:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT, I BELIEVE.
ALSO, IT DEPENDS WHERE YOUR BUILDING.
LAND COST IS NOW A GREATER PORTION OF THE TOTAL COST THAN
FIVE YEARS AGO OR TEN YEARS AGO.
YOU START BUILDING NOW, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE AT, BUY A
LOT OF LAND -- IF ALL YOU BUILT, MORE COST TO BUY THE LAND
NEXT TO IT.
BETTER BUY A LOT OF LAND NOW EVEN IF YOU DON'T USE IT
BECAUSE YOU'LL SAVE THE PUBLIC A LOT OF MONEY.
11:48:40AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:48:43AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK BY THE NATURE OF 163, ANYTHING THAT
WE INVEST IN AS A CRA IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO SPEND 5% ON
SOMETHING ELSE, I WOULD RATHER JUST REDUCE THE AMOUNT WE'RE
GOING TO SUBSIDIZE BY 5% AND REINVEST THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE
ELSE.
JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
LIKE THE LAST PROJECT, IF WE REQUIRED -- YOU HEARD THEM SAY
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY.

THE PROJECT WE HAVE AS A WALK-ON TODAY, THEY ARE STRUGGLING
TO MEET THEIR NUMBERS.
ON TOP OF THAT, IF WE ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING, IT SEEMS
SILLY BECAUSE THEY ARE BARELY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THEIR
PROJECTS THROUGH AND THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES HAVE HUGE
COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
I WOULD RATHER INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR -- BECAUSE ANYBODY --
IF YOU ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, ADD IT INTO THE COST
OF IT.
IT WILL MEAN WE'LL BE PUTTING IN MORE MONEY, AND I'D RATHER
PUT IN LESS MONEY AND HAVE US WORK ON THE BENEFIT INSTEAD.
THE OTHER THING ON THESE GRANTS, WE'VE SEEN MANY CASES WHERE
TECHNICALLY, LEGALLY ADMINISTRATION IS NOT INVOLVED IN CRA
BUT WE'VE SEEN MANY CASES WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO
SLOW-WALK THE PROJECTS THE COMMUNITY WANTED AND THEN
FAST-TRACK THE PROJECTS THEY WANTED.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT A BACK DOOR TO DO THAT.
SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT.
THE COMMUNITY IS UPSET BY IT.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S PROJECTS ARE
PRIORITIZED.
THANK YOU.
11:50:15AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:50:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I COMPLETELY AGREE.

IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE LAST PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
TO ME IS THE GROCERY STORE AND THE 30 TO 80 PERCENT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE
THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO.
SO MAYBE WHAT I MIGHT DO IS IF WE REALLY WANT TO DO THIS
COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS TACK A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER TO IT.
A PROJECT THAT WOULD RECEIVE OVER $10 MILLION, BECAUSE BY
THAT NATURE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO COME UP WITH ON THEIR OWN IS SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH THAT THEY
ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF RESOURCES.
AGAIN, I AGREE.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY ARE JUST GOING TO USE THE CRA MONEY
ANYWAY.
THAT'S KIND OF THE NATURE OF IT.
BUT I'M JUST THINKING OF A MUCH HIGHER THRESHOLD, THAT WAY,
YOU KNOW, THE GASWORX PROJECTS, THE YBOR HARBOR PROJECTS,
THE STADIUM POSSIBLE PROJECT, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WOULD
REALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE A CBA.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
11:51:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M LOOKING AT HIM.
WE HAVE EYE CONTACT.
11:51:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, WHATEVER.
I'M JUST SAYING WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE REALLY, REALLY

EXPENSIVE LARGE PROJECTS, TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY.
IS THAT POSSIBLE?
11:51:48AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YOU SET THE THRESHOLD.
LET ME THROW OUT SOME -- BECAUSE TRUST ME, THERE WERE TIMES
IN DISCUSSIONS WITH MYSELF AND MEMBERS OF STAFF THAT PEOPLE
THOUGHT I HAD A THIRD EYE COMING OUT OF MY HEAD.
MUCH OF WHAT I'M HEARING FROM SOME OF YOU ECHOS THE SAME
CONCERNS I EXPRESSED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, BUT THERE WAS
PUSH-BACK AND UNDERSTANDABLY SO.
ONE OF THE REASONS THERE WAS PUSH-BACK, WE DON'T HAVE AS A
CRA, AT LEAST CURRENTLY, STAFF THAT CAN, AS MR. CLENDENIN
SUGGESTED, DO THIS MONEY OR -- OR MR. CARLSON SUGGESTED --
PUT THIS MONEY ASIDE AND DO IT OURSELVES.
AS I RECALL, THE STAFF MEMBER UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT, WHERE AM I
SUPPOSED TO GET THE PEOPLE TO DO THIS?
WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO BUILD THE PROJECT AND MONITOR THE
PROJECT AND PUT TOGETHER ALL THAT STUFF?
WHEREAS, IF YOU PUT IT ON A DEVELOPER, EVEN IF IT IS USING
YOUR MONEY, YOU CAN REQUIRE THAT JUST LIKE FOR THE MAIN
PROJECT YOU GET CREDIT FOR IT, YOU CAN REQUIRE THAT THEY ARE
USING THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE FROM ALREADY DOING SOMETHING IN
THE COMMUNITY OF HAVING CONTRACTS -- I WANT TO BE FAIR AND
SAY THAT PART OF THE DEBATE WAS BROUGHT UP BY STAFF.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THE DEBATE.
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THEY CHANGED MY MIND, BUT IT DOES

GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
11:53:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH JUST PUTTING A MUCH HIGHER
LIMIT ON IT?
BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THIS IS -- I'M SORRY.
11:53:25AM >>DEE REED:
BEFORE YOU GO TOO FAR INTO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE
IT CLEAR, DIDN'T GET DISCUSSED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE
PRESENTATION.
BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY A CRA CBA AND CITY CBA.
THE CRA'S CURRENT CBA IS TRIGGERED AT $500,000.
SO A PART OF -- WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TODAY, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT A PART OF THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO
REPEAL THE CRA'S CBA AND REMOVE THE CRA FROM THE CITY'S CBA.
SO IF WE SET THAT NUMBER HIGHER, THEN YOU HAVE THOSE SMALLER
PROJECTS THAT MAY BE GETTING A LARGE CONTRIBUTION THAT MAY
NOT HAVE A CBA.
IF WE SET THAT NUMBER AND THE PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD
ALREADY HAS A CBA, WE HAVE THAT LATITUDE TO NOT REQUIRE
ADDITIONAL THINGS.
WE JUST POINT OUT, HERE ARE THE COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT
THAT ARE SERVING OR PROVIDING THIS COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
BUT AT LEAST IF WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS THAT COME AND THEY
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY ARE NOT
PROVIDING A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
REQUIRE IT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE.
11:54:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M SAYING.
I REALLY BELIEVE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE BRINGING
FORWARD DO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, EXCEPT FOR SOME OF
THE LARGER PROJECTS AND THEN TECHNICALLY YOU COULD SAY THAT
DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR GASWORX IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
REALLY, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN HELPING THESE, LIKE WE JUST
SAW EARLIER, THE LEGACY PROJECTS, TO GET THROUGH WITHOUT
HAVING A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
BECAUSE REALLY, BEING A LEGACY PROJECT IS A COMMUNITY
BENEFIT.
HAVING THE MONEY STAY THERE, HAVING THE COMMUNITY -- THE
FACT THAT THEY ARE BUILDING A GROCERY STORE IS ICING, BUT TO
ME, THAT'S ALSO COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY MY MIKE JUST WENT OFF.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK.
11:55:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO WRAP THIS UP, BECAUSE I KNOW TIME IS
CRAZY.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO APPROVALS.
ONE, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE TO GRANT THE APPLICANTS BY
DISTRICT AS ONE OF THE APPROVALS AND THE OTHER WOULD BE TO
HEAR AND THEN EVALUATE THESE PROCESSES THAT ARE EVALUATED BY
STAFF.
YOU EVALUATE THEM BY STAFF, AND THEN WE DECIDE ON EACH AS

THEY ARE REQUESTED.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, ALL THESE PROJECTS APPLES AND ORANGES.
AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SAID, THE GROCERY STORE VERSUS
-- EVERY PROJECT WILL HAVE TO STAND ON ITS OWN AND WE HAVE
TO DEPEND AND I UNDERSTAND STAFF MAYBE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT
DOING THIS THEMSELVES.
BUT WHEN YOU GUYS DO EVALUATE, YOU GUYS NEGOTIATE THE
AGREEMENTS AND THEN BRING IT TO US FOR FINAL APPROVAL, I
THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
WE WILL HEAR PROJECTS EVALUATED BY STAFF AND THEN NEGOTIATED
BY STAFF AND DECIDE AS EACH ONE IS PRESENTED I THINK WOULD
BE MY MOTION TO APPROVE.
11:56:33AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE ONE OUT OF THE TWO ACTION ITEMS, WHICH
IS A MOTION TO PRESENT THE APPLICATIONS BY DISTRICT FROM
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ANY DISCUSSION?
11:56:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- FUNDING STREAM.
EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN INDEPENDENT FUNDING STREAM.
YOU CAN'T COMPARE AN APPLICATION FROM EAST TAMPA VERSUS AN
APPLICATION FROM CHANNELSIDE, BECAUSE THE MONEY IS
DIFFERENT.
11:57:03AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
LET'S DO DISCUSSION FOR THAT MOTION.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:57:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST AS YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON YOUR
CRITERIA, I REALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF PROJECTS ABOVE $10

MILLION.
THE LAST PROJECT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A SMALL PROJECT.
WE KNOW FROM ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SMALL
PROJECTS INSTEAD OF BIG PROJECTS.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING BIG PROJECTS, AND I DON'T
THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT LEADS TO GENTRIFICATION.
IT LEADS TO TAKING AWAY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMUNITY
FOCUS.
IT ALSO GIVES THE PUBLIC THE PERCEPTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
BENEFIT A HANDFUL OF BIG DEVELOPERS.
I THINK IF THERE IS ANYTHING ABOVE 10 MILLION, I THINK THERE
OUGHT TO BE TRANSPARENCY IN THE BEGINNING.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE IDEA CAME FROM.
IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED BY THE BOARD OPENLY BEFORE IT GOES
THROUGH A LONG PROCESS.
IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT WE WOULD APPROVE IT AT THE END.
WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT IN THE BEGINNING.
IDEALLY, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROJECTS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE
WE CAN FUND -- THERE'S NOT MUCH MONEY IN OUR ACCOUNTS
ANYWAY, AND WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE FUNDING THOSE BIG
PROJECTS.
AND THE EDC PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS ONLY 9 MILLION.
THE WHOLE THING IN THE END WILL BE A BIG WASTE OF MONEY.
SHOULDN'T HAVE FUNDED A PROJECT LIKE THAT.
THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE SHOVED THROUGH BY THE

ADMINISTRATION.
HUGE MISTAKE.
COULD HAVE FUNDED THREE OR FOUR PROJECTS LIKE THE ONE WE
JUST SAW INSTEAD AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL
TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:58:36AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THE MOTION?
11:58:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YEAH.
I WANT TO SIMPLIFY THE WHOLE THING AGAIN.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS THING, THE HOMEOWNER IS THE APPLICANT
APPLYING TO THE CRA FOR THE MONEY.
IN THIS CASE, A DEVELOPER.
11:58:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
POINT OF ORDER, YOU ALL.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY THE DISTRICT VERSUS THE GRANT
TYPE.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER ONE.
11:59:02AM >>DEE REED:
KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ALL COMMERCIAL.
NO RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S NO HOME OWNERSHIP, ANYTHING.
THIS IS STRICTLY COMMERCIAL GRANTS.
11:59:11AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SO THE MOTION RIGHT NOW ON THE FLOOR WAS THE
PRESENTATION STRUCTURE SHOULD BE BY DISTRICT.
MOTION WAS BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?

THERE ARE TWO ACTION ITEMS RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS THE FIRST ONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.
11:59:28AM >> AYE.
11:59:28AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OPPOSED?
NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS THE BOARD
EVALUATION APPROACH.
THIS IS ON THE BACK OF OUR PACKET.
11:59:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY MOTION WAS TO HEAR THESE COMMERCIAL
GRANTS, AS DEE APPROPRIATELY SAID, THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY
EVALUATED BY STAFF AND THEN DECIDE ON EACH AS REQUESTED.
JUST A REMINDER, SOME OF THESE ARE LIKE DOWNTOWN, LIKE THE
STRAZ AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS COULD COME UP.
SOME OF THESE ARE BIG PROJECTS.
THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS EAST TAMPA.
WE HAVE UNEQUAL PARTS OF CRA.
HAVE ONE POLICY APPLY TO ALL THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF CRA, I
THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR STAFF TO EVALUATE THESE
BASED ON THE REQUEST AND THEN PRESENT IT TO US FOR FINAL
DECISION MAKING.
12:00:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION?
12:00:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CRA BOARD WILL HEAR COMMERCIAL GRANTS THAT
HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY EVALUATED BY STAFF AND NEGOTIATED,
CBAs, WHATEVER THEY DO BEHIND THE SCENES, THE CRA BOARD
WILL DECIDE THEM AFTER THE STAFF HAS EVALUATED THEM.

12:00:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN
AND A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:00:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK HE HAD HIS LIGHT ON.
12:00:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
HE WAS JUST SECONDING.
12:00:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M JUST LISTENING RIGHT NOW.
12:00:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:00:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IS TO PROBABLY
PUT THIS SLIDE UP --
12:01:07PM >> JUST THE ONE SLIDE?
12:01:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
I THINK IT GROUNDS PEOPLE IN THE QUESTIONS SOMETIMES.
IT'S LITERALLY THE LAST PAGE WHERE WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION
BECAUSE SOMETIMES THIS IS A COMPLICATED THING.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO FOR THE BOARD EVALUATION
APPROACH IS TO HEAR ALL REQUESTS, EVALUATE AND DECIDE.
OR HEAR, EVALUATE, AND DECIDE.
I CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
THAT IS MY QUESTION FIRST.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO THINGS THAT
LOOK THE SAME?
SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS DECISION.
12:01:42PM >>DEE REED:
SO, ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ALL OF THE
APPLICATIONS PER DISTRICT AT ONE TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO -- I'LL PICK UP --
12:01:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU LEAVE THAT UP THERE, PLEASE?
12:01:56PM >>DEE REED:
SAY WE'RE PRESENTING EAST TAMPA'S APPLICATIONS,
AND WE'LL START WITH SPECIAL PROJECTS.
IF THERE ARE FIVE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SUBMITTED AND WE'RE
GOING TO SAY THE BUDGET FOR THAT CYCLE IS $5 MILLION, WE'LL
THROW THAT OUT.
THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT US TO PRESENT APPLICATION ONE,
LET YOU DISCUSS IT, TAKE A VOTE, AND THEN WE PRESENT
APPLICATION TWO?
OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO PRESENT ALL FIVE APPLICATIONS,
THEN YOU ALL GET TO DISCUSS AMONGST YOURSELVES AND THEN TAKE
THE VOTE.
12:02:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I VOTE FOR ITEM 2 ON THAT.
12:02:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING FOR.
CLARIFICATION THAT STAFF WAS EVALUATING THESE PROGRAMS
BEFORE IT COMES TO US.
SEVEN PEOPLE CAN'T BE EVALUATING THESE THINGS FROM THE DAIS.
12:02:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, BUT IF WE'RE HEARING THEM, WE'RE
EVALUATING THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'RE ALL DEBATING
AMONG OURSELVES WHICH OF THE FIVE PROJECTS.
I DO THINK THAT IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT.
12:03:05PM >>DEE REED:
I THINK IT ALIGNS BEST WITH THE GOAL THAT YOU
ASKED US.
YOU SAID YOU WANTED IT TO BE COMPETITIVE.

IF YOU HEAR THEM ALL, YOU CAN DISCUSS THEM AGAINST EACH
OTHER.
12:03:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT SHE'S SAYING, THE RANDOMLY CHOSEN PERSON
ONE COMES UP AND WE CHOOSE TO FUND THEM AND THEN PERSON TWO
COMES UP, WOW, THAT IS A BETTER PROJECT AND WE ALREADY GIVEN
MONEY TO PROJECT ONE.
HEAR ONE THROUGH FIVE.
12:03:33PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO GIVE BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
12:03:38PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY THING IS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A
DOLLAR LIMIT TO THIS PROPOSAL.
I WOULD SAY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TO THIS PROCESS BECAUSE
WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, THE ONLY TWO
CRAs WHICH CAN REALLY DO IT OR THE BIGGER AMOUNTS ARE
DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT.
MAYBE YBOR.
BUT THE REST OF THEM, IF YOU PUT A 10 OR $15 MILLION PROJECT
IN EAST TAMPA, EATS UP ALL THE MONEY.
I THINK IF THERE IS A PROJECT ABOVE 5 MILLION, WE NEED TO
HEAR PUBLICLY WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN GENERAL BEFORE THE
STAFF GOES THROUGH A LONG DISCUSSION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE GRANT REVIEW PROCESS, THERE HAS
TO BE A SET TIME PERIOD ADVERTISED IN ADVANCE, LIKE YOU'LL
PRESENT TO US EVERY TWO MONTHS OR EVERY QUARTER BECAUSE
THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE -- SEVERAL EXAMPLES RECENTLY WHERE

PEOPLE WERE TOLD THAT THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT IN THE CRA, AND
THEN WE FIND OUT AFTERWARDS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION, THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS A PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN SECRETLY FUNDED
BUT WE HADN'T VOTED ON IT YET.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS TREATED FAIRLY AND
THAT THERE'S NO ATTEMPT BY THE ADMINISTRATION TO HOLD OUT
MONEY FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT.
IF IT'S QUARTERLY, WE CAN LOOK AT EVERYBODY OR WHATEVER TIME
PERIOD WE CAN LOOK AT IT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD AND
EVALUATE ALL THE PROJECTS TOGETHER AND THEN IT'S FAIR
BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE TIME LIMIT IS.
OTHERWISE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS A BUNCH OF INDEPENDENT
APPLICANTS WILL PUT THEIR PROPOSAL IN AND THEN THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL SLIDE ONE IN AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE NEED
TO APPROVE BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE HAS A CHANCE.
NOT GOING TO BE FAIR JUST LIKE IT HASN'T BEEN FAIR A LOT IN
THE PAST.
THANK YOU.
12:05:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:05:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR CLARIFICATION, THESE GRANTS DO OPEN
AND CLOSE.
SO WE HAVE THESE TIME FRAMES.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET A FIRST-IN, FIRST-OUT.
WE'LL HAVE A PACKAGE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY MY MOTION, IS TO HEAR AND EVALUATE

THE APPLICANTS -- STAFF WILL EVALUATE ALL THE APPLICANTS AND
ALL THE APPLICANT PACKAGES.
HOW I PERCEIVE THIS, AFTER THE GRANT PACKAGE CLOSES YOU'LL
COME BEFORE THE BOARD WITH ALL FIVE OR TEN OR 150 PACKAGES,
WHATEVER YOU HAVE, AFTER YOU HAVE EVALUATED ALL THE
PACKAGES, PROVIDING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN YOU'LL
PRESENT THAT TO THIS BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION AT ONE TIME,
AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
12:06:08PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN YOU JUST, FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU STATE
THAT ONE MORE TIME?
JUST SO WE HAVE IT CORRECT.
I WANT TO BE SURE, MANISCALCO, YOU STILL SECOND IT.
12:06:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION CONCERNING BOARD
MEMBER CARLSON'S ISSUES, PER OUR PROCEDURES, COMMERCIAL
APPLICATIONS WILL BE RECEIVED ON THE SCHEDULE SET BY THE CRA
STAFF, OPENING AND CLOSING DATES.
THOSE COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS WILL BE EVALUATED BY STAFF
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF WILL PACKAGE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUBMIT IT TO
THE CRA BOARD FOR EVALUATION AND DECISION.
12:06:55PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO YOU STILL SECOND THAT MOTION?
OKAY.
DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:06:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED AND

FILED.
IF SHE COULD GO THROUGH THIS, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO ANSWER
THESE QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE REPORT WAS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, PLEASE DON'T RECEIVE AND FILE THINGS
WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN MUCH EASIER TO JUST HAVE GONE THROUGH IT.
12:07:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST HER MEMO.
SHE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE MEMO.
12:07:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS WAS NOT THE MEMO.
THIS WAS THE PRESENTATION SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE THAT YOU
SAID NOT TO GIVE.
12:07:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE JUST RECEIVED AND FILED HER MEMO.
12:07:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
IN THAT, YOU RECEIVED AND FILED THE PRESENTATION.
12:07:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, I DID NOT.
LET'S CORRECT THE RECORD.
WHAT I DID IS I RECEIVED AND FILED HER MEMO.
12:07:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
ANY OTHER DIRECTION FROM US?

12:07:56PM >>DEE REED:
JUST WANT TO REPEAT FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE
WE ARE CLEAR.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE CBA, THIS APPROVAL INCORPORATES
REPEALING THIS EXISTING CRA CBA, REMOVING THE CRA FROM THE
CITY'S CBA, INCORPORATING THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN THE
GRANTS BUT TO BE DISCUSSED AND NEGOTIATED BY STAFF AND THEN
PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
CORRECT?
12:08:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
12:08:24PM >> THANK YOU.
12:08:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAGNIFICO.
12:08:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WHO SAID WE WOULD BE OUT OF HERE BY 12?
EVERY TIME WE SAY THIS WE JINX OURSELVES.
12:08:39PM >> A.M. OR P.M.?
12:08:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DIDN'T SAY WHAT YEAR.
12:08:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT.
TAKE LUNCH?
12:08:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE A LUNCH?
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AN HOUR LUNCH.
WE WILL BE BACK AT 1:10 TO FINISH ITEMS 5, 6, 7, AND THEN 8
AND THEN WE HAVE A WALK-ON.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL BE BACK AT 1:10.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]

1:16:25PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THIS COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING IS
BACK IN SESSION.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON IS NOT HERE.
I GOT IT, GIRL.
CAN I PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL?
1:16:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:16:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:16:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:16:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:16:49PM >> CARLSON?
1:16:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
1:16:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
1:16:52PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:16:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:16:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 6
TO THE JULY 23, 2026 MEETING.
1:17:04PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ALSO, JUST HOUSEKEEPING, I WAS TALKING WITH THE CLERK, AFTER
OUR FIRST SESSION, AND SHE WAS TELLING ME THAT WE DID HAVE
TIMERS FOR US AS WE WERE SPEAKING, BUT BECAUSE WE WERE KIND
OF GOING, YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT, BACK AND FORTH, SHE WOULD

HAVE TO RESET OUR TIME.
JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FLOWING PROPERLY, YOU KNOW, PUT THE
TIMER, FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, AND THEN WE'LL GO DOWN THE
LINE SO WE CAN BE EFFICIENT, GET IN AND GET OUT OF HERE.
1:17:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHY SHE'S TALKING TO YOU.
1:17:46PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M TALKING TO ALL OF YOU.
JUST FOR HOUSEKEEPING.
THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR MOVING THE ITEM TO BE
CONTINUED.
DIRECTOR McCRAY.
1:18:00PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHAIR.
ONE OF THE ITEMS YOU ALL HEARD, NUMBER 4, RELATED TO THE
SPECIAL PROJECTS AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GRANTS, BEFORE
WE MOVE THE AGENDA, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE VOTE PROVIDED ON
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 BEFORE LUNCH REGARDING THE APPROACH FOR
THE SPECIAL PROJECTS AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GRANTS.
THE PACKET OF INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU PRIOR TO
THE MEETING THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED
CHANGES, THE BOARD'S DIRECTION TO THE SPECIAL PROJECTS
GRANTS.
IS IT THE BOARD'S INTENTION THAT THE APPROVAL OF THOSE ITEMS
FOR NUMBER 4 ALSO INCLUDE CRA BOARD APPROVAL, PROPOSE THE
TWO-CYCLE APPLICATION?

YES.
AND ALSO, THE UPDATES TO THE GRANTS AND FUNDING POLICY, THE
RESTRUCTURE COMMERCIAL SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT INCORPORATING
THE NEW PROCESS AND THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT
GRANT EFFECTIVE UPON APPROVAL.
1:18:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:19:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT
EFFECT?
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL?
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THAT WILL BE EVERY SIX MONTHS OR TWICE
A YEAR, HOWEVER, TWICE A MONTH, THAT THE PROPOSALS WILL COME
FORWARD TWICE A YEAR, SORRY, AND -- CAN YOU RESTATE THE
OTHER?
1:19:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN SAY AS HE PRESENTED.
1:19:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, AS HE PRESENTED.
IS THAT ENOUGH?
NO.
SHE WOULD REALLY PREFER YOU SAY IT AGAIN.
1:19:33PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
ESSENTIALLY THAT THE UPDATES TO THE GRANTS
AND FUNDING POLICY, RESTRUCTURED COMMERCIAL SPECIAL PROJECTS
GRANT INCORPORATE THE NEW PROCESS AND PROPOSED COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT GRANTS WHEN WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THOSE.
1:19:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I WANT TO APPROVE ALL THE UPDATES FOR
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BUSINESS GRANTS.
AND HAVE THE PROPOSALS COME FORWARD TO THE CRA TWICE A YEAR.

1:20:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND FROM
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
1:20:12PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
THANK YOU.
THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE ITEM 5.
I'LL CALL UP MS. PARKS.
1:20:21PM >>BELIX PARKS:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
CAN I GET THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
B. PARKS FOR THE RECORD, CRA COMMUNITY COORDINATOR.
JUST WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION TO PULL UP, JUST
WANT TO REFERENCE THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AS YOU KNOW, IS NUMBER ONE TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITIES, AND ALSO THE 30% ALLOCATION
IS ALSO A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON WITH
THE DOLLARS, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN I WISH TO HAVE A
DIALOGUE WITH THE BOARD CONCERNING EACH ONE OF THE AREAS TO
SEE IF THAT COMMITMENT OF THE 30% WILL STAND THERE OR IF WE
WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER PERCENTAGES FOR FY '28.
THE OVERVIEW IS WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE CURRENT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FUNDS BALANCES.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EVALUATING CURRENT
OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN THE 30% HOUSING

ALLOCATION DISCUSSION.
SOME CURRENT CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING, SOME CRA AREAS,
AS YOU KNOW, HAVE A STRONG HOUSING DEMAND BUT LIMITED
AVAILABLE FUNDING.
OTHER AREAS HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BALANCES BUT LIMITED
HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
CONSTRUCTION COSTS, LAND PRICES, FINANCING GAPS CONTINUE TO
IMPACT PROJECT FEASIBILITY.
SOME DISTRICTS HAVE LAND CONSTRAINTS, ZONING LIMITATIONS OR
FULLY BUILT-OUT CONDITIONS, AND THEN EXISTING COMMITMENTS
AND PIPELINE PROJECTS VARY SIGNIFICANT BY EACH ONE OF THE
AREAS.
EXAMPLE GIVEN, EAST TAMPA.
THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST REQUEST FOR ALL DEVELOPER SUBSIDY AND
ALSO ALL OUR PROGRAMS, HR, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
SOME STRATEGIC CONSIDERATIONS, ENSURING THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING
THESE HOUSING DOLLARS EFFECTIVELY AND TIMELY.
BALANCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS WITH OTHER REDEVELOPMENT
PRIORITIES.
ALIGNING HOUSING INVESTMENTS WITH ACTUAL MARKET
OPPORTUNITIES AND REDEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS.
SO LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN COMPARE OUR PROGRAMS TO WHAT IS
ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE MARKET.
MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY WHILE PRESERVING CRA HOUSING
COMMITMENTS.

I ALWAYS BRING UP THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANT THE
PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT THAT 30% GOES TO AND THE AREAS.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S REHAB, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, OUR INFILL
PROGRAM, UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION WHICH WILL BE COMING
BEFORE THE BOARD IN JULY TO HOPEFULLY REVIEW AND APPROVE AT
THAT TIME, AND THEN STRATEGIC ACQUISITION.
SO THAT'S WHERE OUR FIVE INITIATIVES ARE FOCUSED IN EACH ONE
OF THE AREAS.
DURING THIS PART, I'M GOING TO STOP ON EACH SLIDE, IF YOU
JUST ALLOW ME AN OPPORTUNITY SO WE CAN DISCUSS EACH AREA.
AS YOU KNOW, EACH AREA IS DIFFERENT.
THIS IS EAST TAMPA.
EAST TAMPA, AS YOU KNOW, HAS THE LARGEST SET-ASIDE FOR
HOUSING.
SO THE TOTAL BUDGET, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES ROLLOVER.
THIS IS YEARS OF ROLLOVER, IS AT THE 16.659 MILLION.
WE HAVE ENCUMBERED.
IF THE BOARD DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ENCUMBERED IS, WHICH I KNOW
YOU ALL KNOW, BUT I'LL STATE IT NOW, IS WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN
ENCUMBERED BY POs.
WE WENT THROUGH THE PURCHASE ORDER PROCESS, AND THIS IS
MONEY TIED TO A PURCHASE ORDER.
THAT'S WHAT ENCUMBERED MEANS.
EXPENDED IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAS BEEN SPENT OUT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, TOTAL ENCUMBERED IS COMING AROUND 3.5

MILLION SO FAR.
TOTAL EXPENDED IS AROUND 4.9 MILLION THAT WE HAVE SPENT SO
FAR.
IT LEAVES A TOTAL AVAILABLE ABOUT 8.1 MILLION.
SO I BROKE IT DOWN IN OUR CATEGORIES HERE.
THE COMMUNITY IN EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT
PRESERVING PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY TO EXISTING RESIDENTS.
HRRP IS THAT PROGRAM.
THE REHAB TO HELP EXISTING HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE
FOR YEARS, AND NEED THEIR HOUSE REPAIRED.
I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH
TO FIT IN THIS LINE ITEM.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WE HAD A TOTAL BUDGET AMOUNT ABOUT
4.8 MILLION FOR THAT AREA, TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED IS
ABOUT 3.1 MILLION.
COMMITTED FUNDS, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN PROCESS.
SO IN PROCESS FOR REHAB IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH SCOPE REVIEW.
AS I EXPLAINED BEFORE, AND THIS WAS LAST YEAR, WE WORKED
THROUGH THE JOB ORDERING CONTRACT PROGRAM AND WE HAVE
CONTRACTORS GO OUT TO EACH ONE OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN
APPROVED TO GET ASSISTANCE TO DO A WALK-THROUGH OF THE HOME
AND THEN WE START NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE SCOPE.
THE JOB PROGRAM WHICH HELPS NEGOTIATE PRICES.
SO THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL THUS FAR.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 1.9 LEFT IN PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WAITING TO

ENCUMBER AND THEN EXPEND.
SO AS OF 5/15, THIS REPORT IS AS OF MAY 15, WE HAVE ALL OF
OUR FUNDS FOR REHAB HAVE BEEN COMMITTED.
SO THERE'S ZERO THAT'S ROLLING OVER FOR FY '26.
LIKE I'M ALWAYS SAYING, THOSE DAYS OF ROLLOVER, IT'S OVER ON
THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE WE'RE USING THIS MONEY.
SO OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WE HAD A BUDGET FOR 2
MILLION.
WE ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED ABOUT 1.5.
WE HAVE 250 IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW, SO COMMITTED.
AND THEN WE HAVE A TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDS OF 210 TO FINISH
OUT FY '26 FUNDING.
SO INFILL, WE HAVE 1.5 AND INFILL I JUST WENT TO, YOU KNOW,
JUST REMIND THE BOARD THAT THIS WILL BE OUR LAND THAT WE
OWN.
SO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE TO SET UP FOR
THAT LAND, WE COULD USE THE INFILL LINE ITEM, WHICH WE'RE
SOON TO HAVE THOSE EXPENSES HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT YEAR ONCE
WE RELEASE THOSE RFPs FOR THE LAND THAT WE OWN.
SO THAT'S COMING UP SOON.
UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE HOT
TOPIC, IS THE DEVELOPER SUBSIDY.
WE BUDGETED AROUND 6.5 TO 5 IN THAT TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND
EXPENDED AROUND 3.8 MILLION.
COMMITTED FUNDS, WHICH WE HAVE IN THE PROCESS THROUGH THE

CURRENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THERE IS A MEMO YOU HAVE FOR THE PREVIOUS LEGACY OWNER
PROJECT THAT SHOWS ALL OF THOSE COMMITMENTS FOR THOSE YEARS.
SO WE HAVE ZERO DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR FY '27 -- 26.
FY '27, WE HAVE A SET AMOUNT THAT WILL BE GOING OUT FOR A
SMALL SCALE DEVELOPERS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST LIKE THE LARGER SCALE.
AT THAT POINT, IT WILL BE THOSE GROWN PROJECTS THAT COME IN
FRONT OF US FOR THOSE DOLLARS.
THEN STRATEGIC ACQUISITION, WE HAVE A TOTAL BUDGET AMOUNT OF
1.579 WITH A TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED OF ABOUT 4,000.
AND THEN WE HAVE TOTAL AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR THAT AS OF 5/15
OF 1.574.
I KNOW I WORK CLOSELY WITH FELIX, WHICH IS THE EAST TAMPA
MANAGER ON, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE REPROGRAM ON WHAT IS
NEEDED.
SO THAT MIGHT CHANGE.
WE STILL HAVE A LINE ITEM AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY ROOF
REPAIR, WHICH WAS ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THOSE
DOLLARS WILL ROLL OVER TO HRRP, THE REHAB, BECAUSE IT'S
DOING THE SAME THING, EMERGENCY ROOF REPAIRS, WIPE THAT OUT
AND ROLL THAT BACK IN HRRP BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY
FOR REHABBING EAST TAMPA.
THE DEMAND IS LARGE.

THE HOUSING STOCK IS WELL OVER THE 150 AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE
PROJECTED.
AND I DON'T EVEN THINK OVER-SUBSIDIZING IS A WAY OUT.
WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE ON HOW WE CAN PARTNER
WITH THE CITY TO ACHIEVE GOALS.
SO THAT IS EAST TAMPA.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT 30% ALLOCATION OR ANY DISCUSSION
WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE BUDGET?
1:29:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST CLARIFY THAT THIS -- THESE ARE
BUDGETED ITEMS AS OF 5/15 AND NOT PROJECTED BEYOND INTO '27
AND BEYOND.
1:29:34PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NO, THIS IS AS OF 5/15.
1:29:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMETIME IF YOU COULD SEND ME PROJECTED --
WHATEVER IS UNENCUMBERED UNTIL SUNSET.
I IMAGINE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
1:29:54PM >>BELIX PARKS:
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
HE'S GOING TO ADD, WE HAVE OUR FY '27 BUDGET OUT.
1:30:03PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE ARE DEVELOPING THE FY '27 BUDGET CURRENTLY.
WE WILL BRING THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL AT THE JULY
23rd MEETING.
1:30:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU DO PROJECTIONS TO SUNSET?
1:30:16PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
1:30:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING, SO WE
CAN LOOK AT STRATEGIC GOALS, LONGER TERM GOAL PLANNING OF

HOW WE ALLOCATE THE FUNDS.
1:30:26PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS IN NOVEMBER.
JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.
1:30:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HALF THE PEOPLE'S JOBS DEPENDS ON WHAT
HAPPENS IN NOVEMBER.
1:30:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, YEAH, PRETTY MUCH, WE COULD DO A
PROJECTION, BUT IT'S REALLY GOING TO DEPEND ON NOVEMBER.
SO EAST TAMPA ELECTED TO USE 50% INSTEAD OF 30%.
IS THAT FOR '27?
1:30:56PM >>BELIX PARKS:
FY '27 IS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO BE 66% OF THE
BUDGET IS GOING TO BE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT IT STANDS AROUND 46 AS OF RIGHT NOW.
1:31:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS NOT 30%.
IT'S 46%.
1:31:10PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
1:31:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON THAT.
1:31:13PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
1:31:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO UP THAT TO ABOUT
66%.
1:31:17PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
1:31:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THE PUBLIC WHO IS LISTENING NEEDS TO
KNOW THAT BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THEY SAID THEY WANTED THEIR
MONEY TO GO, SO WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THAT DIRECTIVE.
SO APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU.

1:31:30PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:31:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
EMERGENCY ROOF REPAIRS, I SEE YOU USE ALL OF IT, CORRECT?
1:31:36PM >>BELIX PARKS:
SO, NO, WE HAVEN'T USED ALL OF IT.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ROLLED OVER.
1:31:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN PROGRESS.
1:31:42PM >>BELIX PARKS:
-- YEAH, IN PROGRESS.
THE IN PROGRESS MEANS WE JUST COMMITTED THOSE DOLLARS THAT
ARE IN PROGRESS TO BE REPROGRAMMED INSTEAD OF HRRP LINE
ITEM.
1:31:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BUT IN YOUR CALENDAR YEAR, YOU'RE GOING
TO LOOK THE WAY IT LOOKS.
ZERO BALANCE AT THE END OF '26, THAT MEANS YOU'LL USE IT
ALL.
1:32:00PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES.
1:32:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THAT?
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT ROOFING IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL
THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S
SUSTAINABLE.
BECAUSE ONCE THE ROOF GOES OUT, YOU HAVE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF
WALL PROBLEMS, FLOOR PROBLEMS, YOU HAVE EVERY KIND OF
PROBLEM YOU CAN THINK OF.
ROOFING IS ONE THING, AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING REPAIRS, THAT'S
NUMBER ONE ITEM IN MY MIND ANYWAY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS FOR '27 IN ROOFING?

DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED MORE OR LESS?
1:32:31PM >>BELIX PARKS:
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE PROJECTED FOR FY '27
FOR THE HRRP PROGRAM, WHICH WILL INCLUDE ROOFING, IS A
MILLION.
1:32:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALMOST TWICE THE AMOUNT.
1:32:43PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES.
PLUS POSSIBLE ROLLOVER.
WE'RE BEING VERY STRATEGIC TO TRY TO NOT ONLY ACCOMMODATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO PUT DOLLARS, AND PHYLLIS CAN
SPEAK MORE ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE -- REHAB IS NUMBER ONE IN MY EYES.
1:33:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I MAY ASK A FAVOR, I LIKE TO KNOW JUST
AGAIN, ALMOST LIKE THE SAME THING ABOUT WHAT DOES A HOUSE
REALLY COST ON ROOFING?
WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SQUARE USING ON A SQUARE HOUSE, HOW MANY
SQUARES FOR A ROOF, SO FORTH AND SO ON, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE
COST OF REPAIRING ONE ROOF?
AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN NEED OF REPAIRS IS
GOING TO DETERMINE THE COST OF THE ROOF.
I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
APPRECIATE SOME NUMBERS LIKE THAT.
1:33:30PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, SIR.
I'LL BRING THOSE NUMBERS FORWARD.
1:33:33PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.

1:33:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT 1.5 FOR INFILL
IS OUR COST FOR ANY UTILITY-TYPE WORK.
1:33:49PM >>BELIX PARKS:
UTILITY WORK, TREE REMOVAL -- SITE PREP FOR
THE LAND WE OWN.
1:33:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY THING -- I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO
TAKE MONEY OUT OF STRATEGIC ACQUISITION.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE STILL TRY TO MAINTAIN
OR TRY TO BUY PROPERTY.
IF YOU DON'T OWN IT, YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT.
1:34:11PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, MA'AM.
I'LL NOTATE THAT.
I'LL GO WITH THE EAST SIDE.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING?
1:34:30PM >> FELIX NU EZ, FOR THE RECORD.
BASED ON THE COMMENT YOU MADE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC
ACQUISITION, THE EAST TAMPA CAC ACTUALLY, WHEN WE DID THE
REPROGRAMMING FOR FY '26 AND PROJECTIONS FOR FY '27, WE HAVE
A LOT OF PROPERTY IN EAST TAMPA.
THEY ARE KIND OF NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING TOWARDS
STRATEGIC ACQUISITION RIGHT NOW, BUT INSTEAD PUSHING FORWARD
ALL THE PROPERTIES AND SITES WE DO HAVE.
THEY VOTED TO REAPPROPRIATE THE BUDGET TO TAKE OUT STRATEGIC
ACQUISITIONS FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT YEAR AND WE REALIGNED IT
WITH -- TO COVER SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WE ALREADY ARE
DEVELOPING BECAUSE WE HAD A SHORTFALL WITH ASHLEY EAST.

1:35:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE
BUDGET.
I THINK THE BUDGET -- OTHERWISE WE'LL BE HERE ALL DAY.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
WE CAN OBVIOUSLY DEBATE IT.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
LET'S DEBATE THAT LATER.
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY -- GOT A MEETING AT 5.
1:35:38PM >>BELIX PARKS:
I'LL ROLL ALONG.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU, CHAIR?
AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THE WEST SIDE, THE TOTAL BUDGETED IS
8.5 MILLION.
TOTAL ENCUMBERED SO FAR IS 375.
TOTAL EXPENDED WE'RE LOOKING AT 96,000 THUS FAR.
TOTAL AVAILABLE IS AROUND 8 MILLION.
SO, AGAIN, THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE AS SUCH.
HRRP IS AT 1.6 WITH TOTAL ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED AT AROUND
82,000.
WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY, MY TEAM IS, TO OUTREACH MORE TO
WEST TAMPA CRA SO WE CAN GET MORE REHAB APPLICANTS BECAUSE
WE KNOW THERE IS A HUGE NEED THERE AS WELL.
SO COMMITTED AND IN PROGRESS, WE HAVE AROUND 600,000 BECAUSE
WE ALREADY DID SOME SCOPE REVIEWS AND MAXED THOSE OUT AS

WELL.
IT'S LOOKING HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH SPENDING
THAT 1.6.
AND THEN TOTAL FUNDS AVAILABLE AS OF 5/15 IS 948.
THEN WE GO THROUGH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS THAT
1.7 THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
WE ARE, AGAIN, OUTREACHING WORKING WITH OUR NONPROFIT
PARTNERS ALONG WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO OUTREACH MORE TO THAT
COMMUNITY.
THE INFILL HOUSING, WE HAVE ABOUT 657 IN THAT POT.
THEN UNIT CREATION THUS FAR WE HAVE 2.9 MILLION WITH TOTAL
ENCUMBERED AT THE 375.
THEN THAT LEAVES US WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT AVAILABLE OF 2.5
MILLION.
THEN WE HAVE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS AT ABOUT 1.6 WITH TOTAL
ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED OF 13925 WITH A TOTAL FUNDS
AVAILABLE AS OF MAY 15 OF 1.6.
SO THAT IS WEST TAMPA.
1:37:40PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:37:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE -- IF YOU DRIVE WEST TAMPA,
THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSES IN NEED.
IT'S JUST VERY CLEAR.
HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT USING WEST TAMPA MAYBE THEN AS A MODEL
FOR RENTAL REHAB, APPROACHING OWNERS?
1:38:03PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES.

1:38:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROGRAM SOLIDLY IN PLACE.
WEST TAMPA MIGHT BE A SPACE WHERE WE COULD -- AND FOR THE
PUBLIC, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HELP REHAB RENTAL HOUSING AND
THEN MANDATE AFFORDABILITY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME
BASED ON HOW MUCH WE GIVE THEM.
1:38:25PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
HRRP, HOUSING REHAB AND RENOVATION PROGRAM, WILL ENCOMPASS
THREE PARTS.
SO THE FIRST PART, IS WILL WE CONSIDER OWNER OCCUPIED?
YOU ARE JUST LIVING THERE.
THE SECOND PART IS TENANT OCCUPIED.
OWNER THAT HAS AN ACTIVE TENANT LIVING IN THAT BUILDING, IN
THAT UNIT THAT IS LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
AND WE USE THEIR INCOME, TENANT'S INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR
ASSISTANCE.
THEN IT'S THAT VACANT OWNER PROPERTY THAT WILL PROVIDE
SUBSIDY TO THAT OWNER TO THEN HAVE A DECLARATION COVENANT
THAT RESTRICTS FOR CERTAIN AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF TIME.
THAT'S ALL IN PROGRESS.
ALL OF THAT IS IN PROGRESS.
1:39:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:39:14PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I HAD TO PUT A PRIORITY IN AN AREA WHERE
WE NEEDED TO PUT MORE MONEY IN, I WOULD PUT IT IN THE DOWN

PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND MARKET THAT MORE AGGRESSIVELY AND
MAYBE EVEN INCREASE THE AMOUNT WE PUT IN.
THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET AHEAD OF THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING CRISIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE LOCK IN AND PREVENT
INFLATION FROM OUTPACING THEM.
I'M IN FAVOR OF SOME SUBSIDIES OF RENTAL LIKE WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT AND WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT WE'VE GOT TO SHIFT MORE INTO
HELPING PEOPLE BUY HOMES.
THE LAST I CHECKED, THERE WAS A LONG WAITING LIST OF PEOPLE
QUALIFIED TO BUY HOMES.
THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH HELP.
THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF PROCESS TO MOVE THIS
ALONG, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL AMOUNTS
INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH EACH LINE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY
OF THESE.
WE CAN READ IT AND THE PUBLIC CAN READ IT OR THEY CAN PAUSE
AS THEY ARE WATCHING IT.
THE PATTERN AS I RECALL FROM READING IT YESTERDAY IS OTHER
THAN THE EAST TAMPA, THE REST OF THEM HAVE BIG SURPLUSES.
THE BIG QUESTION THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW, WHY ARE THERE
SURPLUSES?
WE KNOW THERE IS A HUGE NEED OUT THERE.
THE REASON WHY I WAS PUSHING TO DO GRANTS ONLY IS BECAUSE
THE THING THAT HELD US UP IN THE PAST IS WE HAD TO GO
THROUGH THE CITY'S HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE OTHER

DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY THERE'S BEEN MASSIVE TURNOVER.
IT SLOWED THE WHOLE THING DOWN.
IF WE HAVE GRANTS, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSING
DEPARTMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WE CAN DO IT ON
OUR OWN.
WHY CAN'T WE MOVE THE MONEY FASTER AND GET MORE PEOPLE HELP?
1:40:49PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
MY ANSWER IS THAT BY PARTNERING WITH THE RIGHT ORGANIZATIONS
THAT HAVE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WE'RE ABLE TO DO SO.
I AGREE WITH THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PORTION OF IT.
IT'S TAKEN SLOWER.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU BECAUSE EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN
USED TO JUST HAVING IT LIKE A WELL-OILED MACHINE.
THE NEED IS THERE.
THE NEED IS THERE.
AND THE COMMUNICATION FROM THE CRA HAS ALWAYS BEEN EAST
TAMPA.
EAST TAMPA IN ROOFING REPAIR, EAST TAMPA OWNER OCCUPIED
REHAB PROGRAM.
NOW IT'S SWITCHING OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR RIGHT
OUTREACH TEAM, MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE A COMMUNICATION
SEGMENT THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND USE THOSE RESOURCES AND
PARTNER UP TO ACTUALLY DO MORE INTENSE COMMUNICATIONS.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
1:41:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON THE SURPLUSES, THE PERCEPTION OF THE

PUBLIC, THEY WANT US TO MOVE FASTER BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH
NEED.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THINK
WE'RE STOCKPILING FOR THE MAYOR'S PET PROJECTS OR MAYOR'S
FRIENDS OR MAYOR'S LOBBYISTS' FRIENDS.
THAT'S BEEN TRUE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT BUT WE NEED TO MOVE
PAST THAT, NOT STOCKPILE THE MONEY.
SPEND IT IN THE YEAR AND NOT WAIT FOR THE MAYOR'S FRIEND TO
COME UP WITH A 2,000 UNIT PROJECT.
1:42:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:42:16PM >>BELIX PARKS:
JUST TO MENTION OUTREACH, WE HAVE DONE
SEVERAL OUTREACH EVENTS IN WEST TAMPA.
ACTUALLY, WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WE ARE GOING TO DO DREW
PARK AND WE DID ENGAGE YBOR.
ONCE WE CAN SOLIDIFY HELP WITH THAT, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON,
MEANING JUST OUR OWN COMMS TO GO AHEAD AND THAT'S WHAT THEY
ARE DOING EVERY DAY.
ALSO, BRENDA AND MYSELF GOT A GREAT IDEA OF DOING FIRST
FRIDAYS AT OUR OUTREACH OFFICE WHERE NO MATTER WHAT THAT
FRIDAY, WE COLLECT APPLICATIONS BUT -- I AGREE WITH YOU, WE
HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB COMMUNICATING THAT.
1:42:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO FOR ME, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DOWN
PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WEST TAMPA, IT'S
EASILY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
LIKE, YOU CAN'T PUT PEOPLE WHO OWN -- WHO ARE AT 70% AMI,

YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM $250,000.
THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
WE CAN'T -- THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT
HOME, EVEN IF YOU GIVE THEM ALL THAT MONEY, IF YOU GIVE THEM
67% OF THE FUNDING UP-FRONT, THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THAT HOUSE.
THE PROBLEM IS, WE NEED MORE IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING
THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD.
THAT'S WHY THE INFILL HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT, WHY THE UNIT
CREATION AND CONVERSION, SO I'M WORKING WITH B. RIGHT NOW TO
TRY TO DO SOMETHING IN EAST TAMPA.
MAYBE EAST TAMPA IS THE WRONG PLACE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO WEST TAMPA WHERE WE HAVE SOME LAND
AND WE CAN DO THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS PARTNER WITH HER
TO TRY TO FIND A WAY THAT WE CAN PILE IT QUAD OR SIX-PLEX
BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED.
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BUY SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM ALSO WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, IF WE
GIVE THEM UP TO 50% OF DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THEY'LL
NEVER BE ABLE TO MOVE.
AND THAT REALLY STICKS, MAKES PEOPLE STUCK WHERE THEY ARE.
I THINK DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS GREAT, BUT WE REALLY HAVE
TO WORK ON ALL OF THIS.
I KNOW YOU JUST ACQUIRED A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF PROPERTY IN
WEST TAMPA, SO I KNOW THAT THE INFILL HOUSING MONEY WILL GO

TOWARD THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S
MORE TO BE DONE.
1:44:34PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NO, THERE'S WAY MORE TO BE DONE ON THE WEST
SIDE.
WE DID.
WE ACQUIRED CYPRESS AND HOWARD LOCATION WHICH WE'RE GOING TO
GO AND DO A VISIONING OR A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE THERE.
THAT'S COMING UP.
AND THEN THAT'S WHAT I DID WITH THE EAST SIDE PROJECTS.
I THEN INCORPORATED ALL THE INFORMATION INTO THE RFP, WHICH
THEN GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE I DID FOR 12th
AND OSBORNE.
1:45:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN CARLSON.
1:45:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT RENTAL PROPERTIES BEING
REPAIRED SO FORTH AND SO ON.
HOWEVER, LET ME SAY THIS TO GET IT OFF MY CHEST.
I MANAGE A TRUST THAT HAS HOUSES IN WEST TAMPA AND OTHER
AREAS.
I DON'T -- I WOULD NEVER APPLY FOR ONE OF THESE THINGS.
HOWEVER, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ALL OF US
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RENT IS THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER
OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, IT DEPENDS WHAT THEY ARE
CHARGING FOR RENT AND IT DEPENDS WHAT IS NEEDED ON THAT

HOUSE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE CHARGING ALREADY MARKET
RATE AND OVER MARKET RATE IN WEST TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE LACK
OF ABILITIES OF HOUSING AVAILABLE.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS RENTING A THREE BED -- TAKING THIS AS AN
EXAMPLE, THREE BED, ONE BATH HOUSE FOR 3,000 AND SOMEBODY IS
RENTING IT FOR 18, THE SAME QUALITY HOUSE, THAT PERSON
RENTING FOR 18, THAT IS THE HOUSE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
THE PERSON MAKING 3,000, MAKING A PROFIT.
THAT'S $36,000 A YEAR.
ONE AT 18 IS BARELY MAKING IT.
IT SHOULD BE ON THE RENT THAT IS BEING CHARGED ON THE HOUSE,
NOT ON THE HOUSE ITSELF, PROVIDING THE HOUSE IS NOT
DILAPIDATED.
1:46:12PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NOTED.
THANK YOU.
1:46:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:46:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK RESPONDED SOME OF MY
THOUGHTS.
I AGREE I THINK WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING SHE SAID.
ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, A FEW YEARS AGO, EXPERTS IN
THE INDUSTRY RECOMMENDED THAT THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS WE
CAN HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE BUY HOMES.
ONE OF THEM WAS TO HAVE A SECOND MORTGAGE THAT'S NO
INTEREST.
SO WHEN -- IF SOMEBODY BUYS A HOUSE FOR $400,000 AND WE GIVE

THEM A HUNDRED THOUSAND SECOND MORTGAGE, THEY DON'T PAY
INTEREST ON IT, IF GOES UP TO 500,000, KEEP WHOLE HUNDRED
THOUSAND, DON'T GET ANY PART AND THEY PAY US BACK THE
HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT WAY WE CAN LOAN IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
THAT'S SOMETHING COMMONLY USED IN THE INDUSTRY.
IT HELPS TO BUY IT DOWN FOR FOLKS AND IT HELPS FAMILIES
LEVERAGE MORE.
I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION STOPPED US WHEN WE PROPOSED IT
LAST TIME.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER.
IDEALLY WE DO IT WITH A COMMUNITY PARTNER OF SOME KIND AND
PUT A FUND INTO IT.
1:47:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:47:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST QUICKLY.
I'M MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
CORRECTING KIND OF OUR HEADS.
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, IT'S SUBSIDIES, AND WHETHER YOU ARE
SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS TO BUILD RENTAL PROPERTIES OR
SUBSIDIZING INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ABLE TO BUILD EQUITY IN
PURCHASING THEIR HOMES.
THAT'S SOME OF THE CHOICE WE HAVE.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL SUBSIDIES, LIKE EVEN IF WE
ARE GIVING SOMEBODY $350,000 TO BUY A $500,000 HOUSE, NOW
THEY ARE IN THAT HOUSE VERSUS $350,000 TO RENT TO BUILD A
RENTAL APARTMENT.

IT'S STILL $350,000.
WHAT ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY AND OUR VALUES GETTING FOR THAT
INVESTMENT.
AT LEAST WITH PURCHASING AND ENCOURAGING HOME OWNERSHIP,
YOU'RE BUILDING THAT GENERATIONAL EQUITY AND REALLY THAT IS
THE STEP UP VERSUS A RENTAL IN PERPETUITY.
AGAIN, 350,000, WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FOR THE 350?
ONLY ONE FAMILY LIVING THERE, PERIOD, AT A TIME ANYWAY.
WHETHER THAT ONE PERSON IS OWNING THAT HOME AND BUILDING
GENERATIONAL EQUITY, VERSUS A RENTAL UNIT THAT'S CONSTANTLY
TURNING OVER, STILL ONE FOR ONE.
1:48:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
1:48:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE BECAUSE IF YOU ARE
SUBSIDIZING SOMEONE FOR $350,000 FOR $500,000 HOUSE,
INSURANCE THEY CANNOT CONTROL.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD KEEPING THAT HOUSE.
BECAUSE THE INSURANCE IS ABOUT THE HOUSE.
AND THE PROPERTY TAXES.
IT'S THE INSURANCE, REPLACING OF THE ROOF, ANYTHING FOR A
HOUSE THAT'S WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO BE MORE
EXPENSIVE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SUBSIDIZE BUT I
DON'T THINK INDUSTRY EXPERTS EVEN RECOMMEND 50%.
I THINK IT'S GENERALLY AROUND 30.
1:49:15PM >>BELIX PARKS:
AS 30% OF YOUR INCOME SHOULD GO INTO HOUSING

COST.
1:49:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH FOLKS IN THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPACE BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD SUBSIDIZE
OF A HOUSE.
1:49:27PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, CORRECT.
SUBSIDIZING IS TRICKY.
I'LL BRING US SPRUCE.
LET'S BRING UP A PROJECT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED.
THE FOUR HOUSES ON SPRUCE IS OUR HOME OWNERSHIP PROJECT.
WE'RE SUBSIDIZING THE 75 THOUSAND FOR THE DEVELOPER SO THEY
CAN PRICE IT LOW AND THEY WILL BE BELOW THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PRICE POINT FOR TAMPA RIGHT NOW, MEANING THE MAX
SALES PRICE THAT HOME CAN GO TO IS 450,000 RIGHT NOW IN THE
CITY.
THAT'S BOTH HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND OUR SIDE,
RIGHT?
SO THEN WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ALSO THOSE HOMEOWNERS ALSO HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING UP TO $100,000 WORTH OF DOWN
PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
THAT MEANS 50 FROM THE CRA.
50 FROM THE HOUSING SIDE, AND THEN THAT BUYS DOWN THE
MORTGAGE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR.
AGAIN, AND THEN THE INCOME.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO IS ACTUALLY PURCHASING.
80% AND UP.

IT'S NOT LOWER.
THERE'S NO -- HABITAT IS MAKING IT HARD.
HABITAT IS EVEN HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO MAKE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WORK AS IT RELATES TO THE 80% OR BELOW.
RIGHT NOW, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAVINGS, HAVE THE CREDIT,
HAVE THE ABILITY TO EVEN GET AN ADDITIONAL CREDIT CARD TO
COVER ANYTHING IS THE 80 UP TO 140 PERCENT AMI.
THAT IS THE BUYERS.
80 IS PUSHING IT.
80 IS GIVING YOU THAT 325 TO THAT 375 MARK.
IT'S ABOUT 120 AND UP.
IT'S BECOMING MORE CRITICAL TO JUST HAVE MORE CREATIVE
STYLES OF HOUSING AND ALSO MAKING SURE -- I'M HOME OWNERSHIP
BEFORE RENTAL.
BUT EVERYONE IS NOT A HOMEOWNER.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO PREFER STAY RENTING.
I'VE SEEN IT.
FINANCIAL EDUCATION.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ACTUAL INCOME GOING INTO AN
AREA THAT IS ACTUALLY PURCHASING.
1:51:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU, TOO.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
BEHIND THE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES OR HOWEVER YOU WANT
TO CALL IT, IN THE BACKGROUND, BECAUSE OF MY WORK ON THE
AHAC COMMITTEE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD WANTED TO DO WITH THIS,
WHAT WAS YOUR GOAL, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO EACH ONE OF THESE,
WASN'T ONE OF YOUR GOALS TO SEE WHAT WE COULD -- TAKE WHAT
POLICIES WE PUT INTO PLACE AND ALLOW THEM TO WORK THEIR WAY
THROUGH IN THE NEXT YEAR?
1:52:24PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE AT THE END, BUT I'LL MENTION IT
NOW.
THANK YOU.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION FOR SPECIFICALLY THE UNIT CREATION AND
CONVERSION PROGRAM FOR FY '27, WHICH IS TO DEVELOP THIS FORM
OF HOUSING.
THIS IS THE DEVELOPER SUBSIDY THAT'S GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO
DEVELOPING THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS TO RELEASE ALL OF THE
FUNDING FY '27.
SO ONCE OCTOBER HITS, THE UNIT CREATION CONVERSION PROGRAM
COMES BEFORE YOU ALL IN JULY.
IF EVERYTHING IS GOOD, THEN YOU ALL APPROVE IT, SO WE COULD
LOOK AT RELEASING SOONER IN SOME AREAS, BUT JUST HOPING FOR
THE GOAL OF OCTOBER.
SO ONCE WE RELEASE IN OCTOBER, THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING HERE
GO THE DOLLARS.
THIS IS THE INCOME WE WANT YOU TO STAY AT.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO CREATE AND NOW LET THE
DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WHICH IS DOING WELL, MEANING THEY ARE

WORKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
THERE ARE A TON OF DEVELOPERS OUT THERE TO PITCH THOSE
PROJECTS TO US.
SO THEN WE WILL KNOW AT THAT POINT WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE
DONE FROM A PRIVATE PERSPECTIVE.
THAT'S NOT LAND WE OWN.
LAND WE OWN, WE COULD DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY CONTROL THAT
SALES PRICE WITH LAND WE OWN BECAUSE WE OWN IT.
BUT IF IT IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPER THAT HAS SPENT 150 TO
ACQUIRE THE LOT, NOW IT'S, HEY, I COULD SELL IT MARKET RATE
RATHER THAN STAY WITH THE 50-YEAR RESTRICTION, GET YOUR
DOLLARS, BUT WE HAVE TO STRATEGICALLY PARTNER WITH PEOPLE
WHO ARE WILLING TO PRODUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND REAL ESTATE TRENDS ARE MOVING FORWARDS MULTIFAMILY
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS BEING TALKED IN MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ROOMS ABOUT THAT
IS THE TREND THAT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING NOW IS COMING UP.
AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO FIND PARTNERS THAT IS ABLE TO PRODUCE
THIS.
BUT I WANT THE BOARD TO ALLOW ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY,
ONCE THIS IS ACTUALLY APPROVED NOW, LET'S SEE WHAT'S
ACTUALLY OUT THERE.
1:54:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE SHE HAS
MULTIPLE CRAs TO GO AND WE ARE WAY OFF OF TOPIC OF WHAT
THIS AGENDA ITEM IS.

1:54:45PM >>BELIX PARKS:
DREW PARK IS TOTAL BUDGETED AT -- IF YOU'LL
BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
DREW PARK, TOTAL BUDGET IS ABOUT THAT 4.3 MILLION.
AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND AREAS.
WE OWN A COUPLE OF LOTS THERE, SO WE ARE MORE THAN LIKELY
GOING TO PULL OUT OUR RFP FOR INFILL HOUSING IN THERE.
CENTRAL PARK, WE'RE AT ABOUT 1.5.
THIS IS HARD TO DO.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING OUT TO DIFFERENT BUILDING OWNERS THERE,
THE ONES THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED YET, TO SEE HOW WE CAN
PARTNER AND POSSIBLY SUBSIDIZE.
TAMPA HEIGHTS -- NO, YBOR IS 6.8.
TOTAL COST FOR YBOR, THIS INCLUDES ONE AND TWO, YBOR CAC HAS
BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THE 30% ALLOCATION.
THEY LIKE TO SEE OTHER PROJECTS, SOME SIDEWALKS IN THEIR
AREA, SOME OTHER PRIORITIES THE COMMUNITY HAS.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST ASKING THE BOARD, LET'S HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO RELEASE FY '27 FUNDING AND THEN PREP FOR FY
'28.
AS WE MOVE TO TAMPA HEIGHTS, WE'RE LIMITED HERE.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS, BUT I AM STILL WORKING ON
IDENTIFYING PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA THAT NEED HELP.
CHANNEL.
CHANNEL IS A BIG ONE.
YOU SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THERE.

WE HAVE UNIT CREATION AND DPA, SO THAT'S ABOUT 14 MILLION.
THAT IS THE SAME -- I'M ASKING IF WE RELEASE THE FY '27
DOLLARS.
WE DID HAVE TWO DEVELOPERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN BUILDING.
SO THAT TASTE IS STILL OUT THERE FOR THAT.
THEN WE HAVE DOWNTOWN WHICH IS NOW TOTAL AVAILABLE AT
$27 MILLION.
WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE HERE, 4 MILLION FOR THE ONE
FOR THE 22 UNITS OFF OF WHITING AND 5.4 THAT WILL GO IN
FRONT OF YOU ALL NEXT MONTH FOR APPROVAL.
AGAIN, SEVERAL DOLLARS IN DOWN PAYMENT -- EXCUSE ME, DOLLARS
FOR THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET?
1:57:02PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:57:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM CACs AS WELL.
SHE SAID SPECIFICALLY YBOR ONE AND TWO, BUT GENERALLY THE
OTHERS AS THEY HIGHLIGHTED.
WHILE THE BEST INTENTIONS OF TREATING THIS AS A ONE SIZE
FITS ALL ACROSS THE CRAs, I THINK WE HAVE BETTER USE FOR
THAT CASH TO BE ABLE TO DO THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR
GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO LIVE IN THE AREAS.
CLEARLY STILL A NEED IN WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA AND
POTENTIALLY DREW PARK AS IT EXPANDS AND MAYBE HAS MORE
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THE OTHER CACs, I DON'T NECESSARILY -- I THINK PARK

IMPROVEMENT, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, THESE OTHER THINGS,
PROBABLY INCLUDING THE REBRICKING PROCESS I'VE HEARD FROM
YBOR CITY WOULD LIKE TO ACCELERATE THAT.
TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITIES, DOWNTOWN, MONEY BETTER SPENT,
MAYBE USING ENHANCING TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS DOWNTOWN.
I THINK WE SHOULD PULL BACK ON THE PROGRAM, STILL PROTECT IT
FROM WEST TAMPA, EAST TAMPA AND DREW PARK BUT ELIMINATE THAT
RESTRICTION FOR THE OTHER CRAs.
1:58:07PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
1:58:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN
DOWNTOWN, WE SHOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT IS STUCK IN THE
CRA AND SPEND IT THROUGHOUT THE CITY BECAUSE WE COULD SPEND
IT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND GET
TEN TIMES OUR MONEY FOR IT.
WE SHOULDN'T JUST TRANSFER IT TO SOME OTHER PET PROJECT.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS -- I'VE HEARD THE SAME FEEDBACK ON
YBOR.
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE AT THE MOST ASK STAFF TO
GO TO THE CAC AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND ASK THEM
IF WE RELEASE THIS MONEY, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO USE IT ON
AND TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS, YBOR ONE, WHATEVER IT IS CALLED,
GROUP WITH THREE OR FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS GET THEM
TO AGREE, GET THE CAC TO AGREE.
THEY CAN COME BACK TOGETHER AND RECOMMEND TO US WHAT THEY
WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON.

I'M AFRAID THAT WE RELEASE A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY AND IT WILL
BECOME SOMEBODY'S PET PROJECT AGAIN.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP THE PROMISE WE MADE TO THE PUBLIC
YEARS AGO AND HOW MUCH WE WOULD SPEND ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING
WE NEED TO DO IT IN A STRATEGIC WAY BASED ON COMMUNITY
FEEDBACK.
1:59:18PM >>BELIX PARKS:
SPEAK TO YOUR COMMENT, I DID GO TO ALL THE
CACs EXCEPT TAMPA HEIGHTS.
OKAY.
WITH YBOR, THEY DID REQUEST AN ANALYSIS TO BE DONE IN THAT
AREA.
SO WE DID SPEAK -- THAT'S THE MAIN FOCAL POINT OF THAT
DISCUSSION.
SO I WILL CIRCLE BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS --
1:59:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE ANALYSIS.
WHAT WE WOULD ASK THEM FOR, IF YOU HAD X AMOUNT OF MONEY,
WHAT ARE YOUR TOP TWO OR THREE PRIORITIES THAT YOU WOULD
SPEND IT ON?
IDEALLY SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
EACH ONE MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE'VE GOT TO GET NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK BECAUSE ALL THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURE IS FALLING APART, TOO.
2:00:02PM >>BELIX PARKS:
OKAY.
I'LL NOTE IT.

2:00:04PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
2:00:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I DON'T HEAR AT ALL ABOUT
THE BRICKING.
ALL I HEAR ABOUT THE BRICKING IS THAT IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE CAC AND FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY HATE IT BECAUSE THEY WANT SIDEWALKS.
THEY WANT THAT SORT OF STUFF.
AGAIN, IF YOU GO TO YOUR NEXT SLIDE, WHAT IS BEING
RECOMMENDED IS TO RELEASE THE 2025-7 FUNDING CYCLE, SEE WHAT
FOLKS COME BACK TO US WITH TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY DRAW.
IF THERE IS A DRAW -- AND YOU SAID THAT YOU SPOKE TO THE
YBOR CRA, AND THEY WANT TO -- CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN THAT THEY WANT A REVIEW?
2:00:47PM >>BELIX PARKS:
SURE.
I WENT TO ALL OF THE CACs AND PRESENTED THE BUDGET AND
ALSO RECOMMENDATIONS TO RELEASE FUNDING FOR UNIT CREATION
AND CONVERSION.
THEY THEN ASKED WHEN BRENDA WAS ACTUALLY DOING HER
PRESENTATION FOR THE BUDGET THAT WE DO A HOUSING ANALYSIS OF
THE AREA TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT COULD BE
PRODUCED.
BRENDA AND MYSELF HAD BEEN LOOKING AT MULTIPLE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN YBOR ONE AND YBOR TWO.
BASED OFF OF THE DOLLARS WE HAD, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS,

LET'S RELEASE THE FUNDING BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INTERESTED
APPLICANTS.
WE MET WITH ONE WHO WANTS TO PRODUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
YBOR.
SO, AGAIN, THE TASTE IS THERE.
WE JUST NEEDED THE TOOL THROUGH THE UNIT CREATION AND
CONVERSION PROGRAM TO BE APPROVED AS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS
WITH THE SCORING COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL.
EVERYTHING TO BE SOLIDIFIED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP
THAT CYCLE, TO ACTUALLY START COLLECTING THOSE APPLICATIONS.
SO, AGAIN, IN ONE WAY, THE CAC, AND BRENDA CAN EXPLAIN WHAT
THEY ACTUALLY SAID, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE
WITH THAT 30% ALLOCATION.
2:02:04PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.
THIS HAS BEEN A REQUEST SINCE DAY ONE, SINCE THE 30% WAS
ORIGINALLY.
2:02:10PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NAME, PLEASE.
2:02:11PM >>BRENDA THROWER:
BRENDA THROWER, YBOR CRA DEVELOPMENT
MANAGER.
THE REQUEST TO DO A STUDY HAS BEEN REQUESTED SINCE DAY ONE,
THREE YEARS AGO THEY ASKED FOR IT.
THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF WE
COULD ASSESS ALL OF YBOR CITY FOR THE CAPACITY TO DO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IT'S JUST EVERY YEAR WHEN I GO BACK TO THE BUDGET, THEY

ARE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING.
ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT WITH IT.
IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.
WE COULD DO A STUDY, BUT WE WERE DOING LIKE ALL THE OTHER
CRAs.
EVERYBODY TOOK 30%.
YBOR TOOK 30%.
HOW MUCH HAVE WE USED FOR THAT?
NOTHING, I DON'T BELIEVE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE USED ONE DIME.
2:02:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW MUCH WOULD A STUDY COST, DO YOU THINK?
2:02:59PM >>BELIX PARKS:
WE HAVE BUDGETED LIKE UP TO 150.
2:03:04PM >>BRENDA THROWER:
MOST STUDIES WE DO, WE TRY TO STAY UNDER
THE $200,000 THRESHOLD.
WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.
WE COULD DO THAT.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE
DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE CRAs UNLESS THE BOARD DIRECTS US TO
DO SO.
2:03:17PM >>BELIX PARKS:
WE DID SPEND SOME DOLLARS.
WE DO HAVE SOME YBOR REHAB PROJECTS HAPPENING IN YBOR.
2:03:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE IF THAT CRA WANTS IT, I THINK
THAT'S FINE TO DO THE STUDY.
LIKE, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT PERSONALLY.
2:03:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN MIRANDA.

2:03:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN WE PASSED THIS YEARS AGO, WE MADE A
PROMISE TO THE PUBLIC THAT IF THE HOUSING ADVOCATES KNEW
THAT WE WERE GOING TO CUT ALL THIS, THEN I THINK THE ROOM
WOULD BE PACKED WITH PEOPLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A PROCESS PROBLEM, NOT A NEED PROBLEM.
IT'S UP TO US AS A BOARD TO DEFINE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN
THE COMMUNITY.
WE TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE CAC, BUT THE CAC DOESN'T DIRECT
IT.
WHAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IS VOTE TO ASK YBOR CITY CAC
AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON HOW THEY WOULD
SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT.
IF YOU INCLUDE ANYTHING OTHER THAN YBOR, I'M VOTING AGAINST
IT.
IF WE THINK WE HAVE TOO MUCH IN DOWNTOWN AND CAN'T SPEND IT
IN DOWNTOWN, CUT THE CRA, GET THE COUNTY TO APPROVE,
ESPECIALLY IF THE RAYS DEAL GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE THE
DOCUMENT OPEN ANYWAY, LET'S CUT IT AND MOVE IT TO ANOTHER
PART OF THE CITY.
WE NEED HOUSING IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND ALL KINDS OF PLACES.
AND IT WOULD BE UNENCUMBERED IF NOT IN THE CRA.
NO REASON TO KEEP ALL THAT MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
2:04:47PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MIRANDA, DID YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK?
2:04:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HEARD THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN
MOVE MONEY FROM ONE CRA TO ANOTHER.

EVEN IF EXIST.
2:04:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT TALKING ABOUT MOVING FROM ONE TO THE
OTHER.
WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, 30 MILLION IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND
REDUCED IT TO 20 MILLION A YEAR, MOVE 10 MILLION TO THE
GENERAL FUND AND SPEND IT WHEREVER YOU WANT.
THERE'S NO REASON TO KEEP ALL THAT MONEY IN DOWNTOWN.
2:05:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M LOOKING AT TIME AND I WANT TO STAY ON
TOPIC BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ITEMS TO DISCUSS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK?
2:05:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
VERY QUICKLY.
I'M NOT AGAINST STUDIES, I REMEMBER THE OLD YBOR CITY -- ALL
KIND OF DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS.
IF YOU GO BACK, WHAT THE PEOPLE DID THAT OWN THE CIGAR
FACTORY, THEY BUILD HOUSES, DOWN THE MIDDLE AND TWO BEDROOMS
ON THIS SIDE, TWO BEDROOMS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT WAS THE
WAY 90% OF THE PEOPLE LIVED AND WORKED IN YBOR CITY BACK IN
THE '70s, '60s, AND '50s AND '40s EVEN.
I'M NOT THAT OLD, BY THE WAY.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A SITUATION THAT SAW THEN MAYBE
RECYCLED AGAIN.
THEY WERE BUILT TO LAST.
STILL SOME OF THEM ACROSS THE YBOR CITY BOYS CLUB JUST ONE
BLOCK NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE.
SEE THEM LINED UP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

THAT'S HOW IT WAS.
I IMAGINE THE HOUSES ARE STILL THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT
OUT OF CONCRETE.
2:06:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ASK STAFF TO CONTINUE
TO CONSULT WITH THE CACs TO GET A WRITTEN REPORT FROM EACH
CAC ABOUT THE ALLOCATION AND WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE THIS
BOARD TO RECONSIDER THAT ALLOCATION AND THEN THIS BOARD --
I'M KIND OF LIKE 50% WHERE BOARD MEMBER CARLSON IS AND 50%
WHERE OTHER FOLKS ARE.
I THINK WE TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE BOARD ULTIMATELY
MAKES THE DECISION.
AGAIN, WE HAVE ALL THESE CRAs OF UNEQUAL PARTS.
YOU CAN'T COMPARE.
AND I WILL DIFFER FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ON THE DOWNTOWN.
DRIVE DOWN MORGAN STREET OR LOOK AT NORTH DOWNTOWN.
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PROBLEM AREAS THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T
EVEN LOOKED AT YET.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE HIDDEN BEHIND A CURTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES DOWNTOWN.
SO THERE IS STILL CHALLENGES DOWNTOWN THAT WE NEED TO
RESOLVE.
I ALMOST WOULD GO WITH YOU ON THE CHANNELSIDE, BUT THEN YOU
HAVE THE COUNTY SIDE ON THAT.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK EVERY CRA STANDS DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK STAFF CAN WORK WITH EACH ONE OF THE CACs.
GET A FORMALIZED WRITTEN REPORT BACK FROM THE CACs ON
THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THOSE
RECOMMENDATIONS, ALONG WITH ADVICE FROM STAFF AT A FUTURE
CRA MEETING.
IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA AT A FUTURE CRA MEETING
TO MAKE THIS DETERMINATION.
THIS IS NOT A DETERMINATION THAT HAS TO BE MADE TODAY.
2:07:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WAS THAT A MOTION?
2:07:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:07:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
2:07:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS
WHAT SHE'S RECOMMENDED WE DO.
THEY HAVE ALREADY GONE TO TALK TO THE CRAs OR THE CACs,
AND NEXT MONTH IS LITERALLY WHEN WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE
CACs SAID.
I DON'T THINK THAT SHE'S ASKING FOR -- I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE
TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, BUT WE JUST FINISHED AN ENTIRE
LIKE YEARLONG PROCESS OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO SPEND THESE
HOUSING FUNDS AND NOW WE'RE TELLING HER THAT WE DON'T WANT
HER TO DO IT.

IT'S LITERALLY WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO.
WE DID SEPARATE WORKSHOPS FOR THIS.
WE WENT FULLY FOR IT AND NOW WE'RE SAYING NEVER MIND.
I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO OURSELVES AND TO OUR HOUSING STAFF
THAT SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THIS TO ACTUALLY RELEASE THE
CYCLE THAT WE SAID WE WANTED HER TO DO AND LET HER SEE WHAT
COMES OF IT.
BECAUSE WE DID THIS.
WE SPENT A YEAR PLANNING THIS AND TO SAY THAT WE'RE JUST NOT
GOING TO SEE IT THROUGH IS WRONG.
2:08:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
2:09:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT JUST BECAUSE IT
INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST YBOR.
I THINK WE HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO THE PROMISE OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
2:09:18PM >>BELIX PARKS:
SO FOR VERIFICATION, JUST TO REINSTATE, I AM
COMING BACK JULY.
SO IN JULY, I'M PRESENTING THE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION
PROGRAM, JUST THAT PROGRAM.
THAT IS THE DEVELOPER SUBSIDY.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE COLLECTED FEEDBACK AMONGST EVERYONE,
COMMUNITY SURVEYS, ALL OF THE EVENTS I WENT TO TO COLLECT
THE INFORMATION ON HOW THAT DEVELOPER SUBSIDY PART SHOULD
GO.

RIGHT?
I JUST WANT VERIFICATION ON THE MOTION AS IT RELATES TO THE
WRITTEN REPORT.
WE KNOW EAST TAMPA THE NEED IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE'RE KIND OF CLEAR WITH THAT.
WEST TAMPA THE SAME.
DREW PARK WE'RE LEADING INTO THAT.
IT'S NOW TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVEN THOUGH WE
PRESENTED A DEAL LAST YEAR FOR THAT.
WE'RE LOOKING TO GET MORE FEEDBACK, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON,
FROM CENTRAL PARK, YBOR CITY, CHANNEL DISTRICT, AND
DOWNTOWN.
THAT'S THE FEEDBACK YOU NEED?
2:10:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M CLENDENIN, BUT, YES.
2:10:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IT WAS CLENDENIN THAT MADE THE MOTION.
2:10:22PM >>BELIX PARKS:
MY APOLOGIES.
2:10:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, THAT WAS MY INTENT.
AGAIN, BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING AND EXPECT
DIFFERENT RESULTS, WE'VE BEEN TRYING THIS FOR HOW MANY --
PREDATED ME ON COUNCIL.
AT LEAST FOUR, FIVE YEARS.
AS YOU SEE FROM THE BUDGET, CLEARLY -- AND IT'S NOT FOR LACK
OF EFFORT BECAUSE I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS WORD OUT AND DO THESE
TYPES OF PROGRAMS IN THESE AREAS.

BUT SOME THINGS ARE JUST IMPOSSIBLE.
I THINK THAT IS A GREAT DIRECTION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I WANTED TO RESPOND.
I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT WHEN COUNCIL IS TALKING --
AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT CRAs, SO
OFTEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, INCLUDING HOUSING, WE
KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
OR WEST TAMPA.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALK, ESPECIALLY ON HOUSING, EAST
TAMPA, UNFORTUNATELY, SITTING AS CRA, OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE
TALKING AS SULPHUR SPRINGS OR SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS.
CRAs, HOUSING ISSUE WHEN TALKING ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND
CHALLENGING STAFF TO DO THESE THINGS IS GENERALLY ABOUT EAST
TAMPA.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OWNER REHAB IN
CHANNELSIDE OR OWNER REHAB IN DOWNTOWN.
IT'S JUST THE REALITY.
THESE ARE UNEQUAL PARTS.
THESE ARE VERY, VERY DISTINCTIVE AND DIFFERENT AREAS THAT
ALL REQUIRE DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
THERE'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO IS REALLY VERY
SPECIFICALLY EAST TAMPA AND TO A LIGHTER DEGREE MAYBE WEST
TAMPA.
NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO ANY OF THESE OTHER CRAs.

2:12:08PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
IS THIS IN REGARD TO A --
2:12:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO RESPOND TO WHAT HE SAID.
I COMPLETELY DISAGREE.
EVERYWHERE I GO, EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PART OF THE CITY YOU LIVE IN.
AND PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE CITY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD
IT.
SO WHETHER IT BE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE 30%, I STILL BELIEVE
THAT WE SHOULD DO THE CREATION AND CONVERSION PROGRAM IN
EACH PART OF THE CITY.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH GETTING A REPORT, BUT
I REALLY DON'T -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE NUMBER ONE
ISSUE.
IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE I GO, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE
ASKING ME ABOUT.
2:12:52PM >>BELIX PARKS:
JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, I THINK I HAVE
THIS REPORT ALREADY.
I WENT DOWN TO CENTRAL PARK, PRESENTED TO THEM.
THEY GAVE FEEDBACK.
THEY SAID THEY WANTED ME TO RELEASE FUNDS.
YBOR CITY WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT STATED THEY WANTED THAT
ANALYSIS TO BE DONE AND THEN ONCE THAT COMES OUT, THEY'LL
AGREE TO RELEASE FUNDS.

CHANNEL DISTRICT, I PITCHED EVERYTHING, SAID, HEY, GIVE US
ANOTHER SHOT BECAUSE THEY DID GET A PROJECT IN FRONT OF
THEM.
THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE MORE PROJECTS.
THEY SAID RELEASE THE FUNDS.
DOWNTOWN, I MET WITH DOWNTOWN CAC, HAD THE CONVERSATION.
THEY ALREADY PARTICIPATED IN AGREEMENTS.
THEY ASKED TO RELEASE THE FUNDS.
SO I CAN WRITE IT AS A WRITTEN REPORT AND PROVIDE IT TO THE
BOARD.
I WENT TO ALL OF THEM.
I SAID EXCEPT TAMPA HEIGHTS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
MONEY IN TAMPA HEIGHTS TO MAKE ANYTHING BESIDES A COUPLE OF
REPAIRS DONE.
ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN VISITED.
I EXPRESSED LET'S SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THIS CLIMATE RIGHT
NOW AND THEN COME BACK WITH THAT ANALYSIS TO THEN MOVE
FORWARD TO RECOMMEND WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, THE BUDGET WOULD
LOOK LIKE FOR FY '28 AND IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I COULD PROVIDE THAT.
2:14:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CARLSON, BECAUSE HE HAS HIS LIGHT --
2:14:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST REMEMBER, THERE IS ANOTHER AUDIENCE WE
HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
WHICH IS THE PEOPLE PAYING FOR THIS.
HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY TAX MONEY THAT'S NOT GOING

TO CRAs IS PAYING FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
SO EVERYBODY WHO IS IN THE CRA DISTRICT, THEY ARE NOT PAYING
FOR POLICE AND FIRE BECAUSE THEIR MONEY IS BEING ONLY SPENT
IN THAT AREA.
ALL THE AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE A CRA ARE SUBSIDIZING POLICE
AND FIRE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CRA.
AND THAT INCLUDES DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT'S SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, ALL THE PLACES THAT
DON'T HAVE A CRA.
AND THEY ARE WATCHING THIS CAREFULLY.
IF WE TALK ABOUT ANY PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO SPEND, LIKE HE
MENTIONED MARION STREET, NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL, THEIR ROADS
LOOK WORSE THAN THIRD WORLD ROADS I'VE SEEN.
I WAS IN EAST YBOR, GARRY YESTERDAY, THEIR SIDEWALKS ARE
FALLING APART.
SULPHUR SPRINGS NEEDS ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
IF WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON WHAT TO SPEND MONEY ON, IT
NEEDS TO BE A BIG ISSUE.
THE REASON WE CHOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE IT IS
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST CRISIS THAT WE'RE FACING AND MOST
CITIES ARE FACING RIGHT NOW.
THE PEOPLE INVESTING IN THAT CRA WANT US TO SOLVE THAT
PROBLEM.
WE START SPENDING ON THINGS NICE TO HAVE, LIKE NICE LAMP
POSTS ON MARION STREET, THEY WILL BE MAD BECAUSE THEY WANT

ROADS FIXED, SIDEWALKS FIXED AND DON'T WANT THEIR HOUSES TO
FLOOD.
WE ALSO NEED NEW FIRE TRUCKS, FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER THINGS
AND WE CAN'T PAY FOR THEM AS LONG AS WE ARE SUBSIDIZING
THESE CRAs.
IN PLACES LIKE EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, WE NEED TO MAKE
INVESTMENTS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF WE'RE HOLDING
MONEY IN PLACES LIKE DOWNTOWN, WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL
ABOUT HOW WE SPEND IT.
EVEN YBOR.
YBOR NOW IS DEVELOPING, AND NOBODY CAN SAY THAT SLUM AND
BLIGHT ON MARION STREET OR NORTH DOWNTOWN IS MORE IMPORTANT
THAN SULPHUR SPRINGS OR EVEN SOUTH OF GANDY.
THERE ARE PARTS OF SOUTH OF GANDY THAT LOOK WAY WORSE THAN
DOWNTOWN.
WE CAN'T HAVE A CRA BECAUSE SOUTH OF GANDY SUBSIDIZING THE
DOWNTOWN CRA.
2:16:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:16:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO CLARIFY, REQUEST TO RELEASE FY
'27, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, YOUR REQUEST IS RELEASE FY
'27 SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND GET PROPOSALS TO FIT WITHIN THE
CURRENT MOLD.
AND IF THOSE PROPOSALS -- AND THEN WE CAN VET THOSE
PROPOSALS, ACCEPT OR REJECT, AND THEN WE CAN PIVOT FROM THAT
POINT.

2:16:36PM >>BELIX PARKS:
EXACTLY.
WITH THE NEW PROCESS, THERE IS A FIVE MEMBER COMMITTEE THAT
IS GOING TO SCORE THOSE.
THEY ARE GOING TO WRITE YOU A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION.
THE BOARD IS GOING TO SEE IT.
THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT JUST LIKE THIS PROJECT CAME, AND
THEN YOU ALL MAKE THAT DECISION AT THAT POINT.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO VET IT AT A STAFF LEVEL.
2:16:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY ONLY CONCERN, TO APPROVE THAT AT THIS
POINT, IS THIS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE BASICALLY I'VE GOT
$10 MILLION, I'LL GIVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS A UNIT AND IT
WILL GET SCORED AND YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO US BECAUSE
IT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
$10 MILLION AVAILABLE.
YOU GET ONE PROPOSAL.
GUY WANTS A MILLION DOLLARS PER UNIT, TO BUILD TEN UNITS AND
GETS SCORED AND THEN COMES TO US.
IS THAT GOING TO COME TO US?
2:17:22PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NO, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING TO
BE COSTS APPROVED, WHAT INDUSTRY STANDARD IS.
BUT THAT SCORING COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE TWO
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT CAC.
SO, AGAIN, THEY ARE GOING TO -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, FINANCE PREFERABLY, TO LOOK AT THIS
COST, CONSTRUCTION COST, DEVELOPMENT COST, REPRESENTATIVE

FROM THE CRA, MYSELF, AND ALSO THOSE TWO CAC MEMBERS.
IT'S GOING TO BE SCORED AND THEN COMPARED AND THEN COMPARED
WITH THAT COMMITTEE AND THEN FOR --
2:17:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WILL THE COMMITTEE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING
THAT IT'S NOT THIS OR NOTHING, BUT IT COULD BE THIS OR
SIDEWALKS?
2:18:03PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT WE CAN GAUGE WHETHER WE ARE ABLE TO
BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT AREA AND NOW LET'S
ALLEVIATE THAT 30% --
2:18:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- UNDERSTAND AS LONG AS THEY UNDERSTAND
IT IS NOT THIS OR NOTHING.
IT COULD BE -- THEY HAVE A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS.
WHAT I'M KIND OF BURNT OUT ON, THE ONE FROM CENTRAL PARK
WITH THE 500 PLUS THOUSAND PER UNIT COST A FEW YEARS AGO.
THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT.
AS THESE KIND OF THINGS COME FORWARD.
AS LONG AS CACs AND THE FOLKS INVOLVED UNDERSTAND TAKE
THESE PROJECTS AND UNDERSTAND, IF YOU ACCEPT THIS, YOU CAN'T
HAVE THAT.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THIS POT OF MONEY IS GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE FOR X, Y OR Z.
2:18:48PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
THAT'S WHAT I BASICALLY HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT.
HEY, LET'S LOOK TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE.

SO THEN YOUR COMMUNITY NEEDS COULD BE PUSHED AHEAD OF THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF THAT'S THE CASE.
SO THAT WAS -- I WANTED THAT TRANSPARENT MOMENT TO JUST
FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING OR NOT.
2:19:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MADAM CHAIR, I WILL RESCIND MY MOTION.
AS LONG AS WE REMOVE THE SECOND, AND THEN PROPOSE THAT WE
GRANT THE STAFF'S REQUEST TO RELEASE THESE FY '27 BASED ON
THE CONDITIONS SHE JUST EXPLAINED.
2:19:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
2:19:26PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THANK YOU.
2:19:28PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
CAN YOU --
2:19:31PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
2:19:35PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THE LAST PART OF THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
INFILLED PROGRAM, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE TOOL THAT WE'RE
ABLE TO USE TO CONTROL THE SALES PRICE, WHICH IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INFILL?
I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME?
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:19:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:

2:20:04PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT AND IT DIDN'T AFFECT THE OUTCOME,
AT LEAST I DON'T THINK IT DID.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
YOU KNOW THE STATUTE SAYS YOU CAN ONLY SPEND CERTAIN MONEY
LISTED IN THE STATUTE.
YOU KNOW WHAT IS NOT LISTED?
DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
THE WAY YOU JUSTIFY IT, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR HOUSING
ALREADY AFFORDABLE.
A LOT OF THE EXAMPLES OF $500,000 HOUSE THAT'S A NONSTARTER.
IF IT IS NOT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE, YOU CAN'T DOWN PAYMENT
ASSIST IT.
2:20:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
FOR THE PUBLIC, WE CONTINUED ITEM NUMBER 6.
WE ARE TO 7.
2:20:45PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
PER BOARD DIRECTION, WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH THE
REPRESENTATION FROM T AND I RELATED TO THE CRA WEBSITE AS
WELL AS E-MAIL ADDRESSES AND DID PREPARE A MEMO IN
PREPARATION OF THE MEETING.
THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH
OPTION 2, WHICH ASSISTS IN ESTABLISHING E-MAILS AND DOMAIN
NAME AS WELL AS THE SEPARATE WEBSITE.
THE EXAMPLE I CAN USE IS THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER WHICH
HAS A VERY SIMILAR SET-UP.

HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH MR. ERIC HAYDEN AND KENNY
MARSHAL AND THEIR TEAM IN T AND I AND WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT
FOR BOARD'S APPROVAL AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK WITH A
TIMELINE AND OTHER OPTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
2:21:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
2:21:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU SAY WEBSITE, YOU
MEAN, BECAUSE I TALKED TO YOU YESTERDAY AND THEN I READ IT.
SEEMED LIKE IT DIDN'T MATCH UP.
IF I MADE A MOTION -- I'LL TRY AND MAKE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE
SEPARATE E-MAILS WITH TampaCRA.org PER THE RECOMMENDATION,
AND THEN AS TO THE WEBSITE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A
LANDING PAGE OR A WHOLE SEPARATE WEBSITE?
2:22:07PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
IT STILL WOULD BE MONITORED BY T AND I, BUT
IT WOULD HAVE A SEPARATE LOOK AND FEEL FROM THE EXISTING
CITY'S SITE.
2:22:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE
RECOMMENDATION TO TRANSITION TO TampaCRA.org E-MAIL
ADDRESSES AND A TampaCRA.org WEBSITE, AT LEAST A LANDING
PAGE THAT WOULD THEN CONNECT TO ANY OTHER CONTENT.
IS THAT RIGHT?
2:22:37PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
2:22:37PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND A
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

2:22:46PM >> AYE.
2:22:47PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OPPOSED?
2:22:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONE MORE COMMENT.
IN THE REPORT, IT SAID CITY STAFF WILL STILL USE THE CITY
E-MAILS.
IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY, OUTLOOK MAINTAINS E-MAILS YOU'VE
BEEN SENDING TO PEOPLE.
IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY LEADER, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, ALL I
HAVE TO DO IS PUT IN THE FIRST BIT OF THE NAME AND IT POPS
UP AUTOMATICALLY.
HOPEFULLY T AND I WILL FIND THAT TO BE REDUNDANT EVENTUALLY.
CITY STAFF SHOULD BE E-MAILING YOU AT THE CRA E-MAIL.
2:23:22PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE MOVING ON TO REQUIRED APPROVALS.
2:23:32PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
FELIX NU EZ, EAST TAMPA CRA.
TODAY, WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU THE PROJECT TEAM FROM FURR,
WEGMAN AND BANKS, UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, AND BISHOP
COMMUNICATIONS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR URBAN
PLANNER ON GETTING THE CRP FOR EAST TAMPA COMPLETED AND
READY TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'LL LET FURR, WEGMAN AND BANKS AND DOCTOR GREEN PRESENT THE
PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

2:24:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ONE SECOND.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
THE WALK-ON ITEM.
DO WE DO THIS BEFORE OR AFTER?
DO IT AT THE END.
OKAY.
CONTINUE.
THANK YOU.
2:24:29PM >> I'M AARON BANKS WITH FURR, WEGMAN AND BANKS ARCHITECTS.
2:24:34PM >> PROFESSOR TRENT GREEN AT USF.
YES, EVERYBODY HERE WAS A FORMER STUDENT OF MINE AT ONE
POINT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
2:24:42PM >> I'M FRANCHESCA FORONDA.
I'M ALSO WITH FURR, WEGMAN AND BANKS, THE ARCHITECTS.
2:24:48PM >> I'M AISHA.
I WORK WITH PROFESSOR GREEN.
2:24:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR BEING
HERE.
2:24:57PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE ALMOST THERE.
ALMOST DONE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WELL.
2:25:03PM >> BRING UP THE PRESENTATION.
2:25:11PM >> GREAT.

THANK YOU.
2:25:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED?
2:25:15PM >> ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO GET THROUGH IT.
MAYBE LESS.
WE'LL SEE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THIS
PROJECT WITH YOU.
IT HAS BEEN REWARDING.
PROFESSOR GREEN IS THE BRAINS OF THE OPERATION.
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AND COMMUNITY DESIGN, URBAN DESIGN,
ALL THINGS CRA AS WELL.
THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN HADN'T BEEN
SUBSTANTIALLY UPDATED SINCE 2004.
SO THIS WAS CERTAINLY DUE.
ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH, OF COURSE,
WAS THE FLORIDA STATUTE 163.
WE HAVE TAKEN GREAT DILIGENCE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
MAINTAINING THAT COMPLIANCE.
THIS PLAN UPDATE REVIEWS PAST DEVELOPMENT PROGRESS,
IDENTIFIES CURRENT CHALLENGES, AND PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE
GUIDE FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES.
SET TO SUNSET IN 2034.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
WE HAVE GIVEN AN ACTIONABLE PLAN THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR

OUR TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CRP IS ACTIONABLE, AND IT IS.
SOME OF THE PRIORITIES FOR THIS PLAN ARE REVITALIZING
NEIGHBORHOODS, EXPANDING THE INVENTORY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND HOME OWNERSHIP, SOME OF THE STUFF WE'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT ALL DAY.
IMPROVING EXISTING HOUSING, MODERNIZING INFRASTRUCTURE,
EXPANDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, LOCAL ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES.
IMPROVING SAFETY AND DIMINISHING CRIME.
2:27:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I SAY ONE THING, IT MIGHT KEEP A LONG
CONVERSATION AT THE END.
I READ ALL OF THOSE THINGS BUT WHEN I READ THE PLAN, IT LOOK
LIKE A LIST OF CITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
AS YOU'RE PRESENTING IT, CAN YOU SHOW HOW THOSE THINGS ARE
TIED TO IT AND IT WILL SAVE ME A QUESTION?
2:27:31PM >> IT IS A HUGE DOCUMENT EXTREMELY COMPREHENSIVE.
196 PAGES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTENT IN THERE.
THERE'S SOME MEAT.
THERE ARE SOME ACTIONABLE ITEMS.
MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS ARE COVERED AND WE HAVE A 15 MINUTE
SUMMARY.
FIRST UP WAS REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND WE HAD A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT

INCLUDED TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO HYPERLOCAL HANDS-ON APPROACH,
SUCH AS FLYERS, MAILERS, YARD SIGNS, AND THAT ALL LED UP TO
COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH THEY SHOWED
UP.
THEY REALLY, GOT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
THEY PACKED THE HOUSE FOR THESE WORKSHOPS.
AND THEY HAD THINGS TO SAY AND WE LISTENED AND WE
IMPLEMENTED THOSE INTO THE DOCUMENT.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, YES, IT WAS STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
IT WAS INTERVIEWS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO
WITH COUNCIL WITH THAT FEEDBACK.
WE ALSO INTERVIEWED CLERGY AND OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS,
COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND THEN THE FINAL COMPONENT WAS THE
COMMUNITY SURVEY.
THIS IS SOME OF THE SURVEY ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN
FRONT OF YOU NOW, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT
AFTER HEARING, HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS PERSONALLY WITH
THE COMMUNITY, SAFETY AND CRIME REDUCTION WAS THE UTMOST
CONCERN THAT WE KEPT HEARING REOCCURRING.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I'LL EMPHASIZE SUPPORT FOR LOCAL
BUSINESSES.
THAT WAS VERY MUCH REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORT FOR
LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AND THEN YOU KIND OF GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A LOWER
CATEGORY IN THE NEXT TWO, SLIGHTLY LOWER.
SHOULDN'T SAY LOWER CATEGORIES, BUT NEXT ARE PUBLIC SPACES
AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THESE ARE THE FOUR CATEGORIES THAT WE SUSPECTED AND THE
DATA DEMONSTRATES THAT THAT'S WHAT THE DESIRE IS AND THAT IS
HOW WE STRUCTURED THE CRP UPDATE.
I AM GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO PROFESSOR GREEN TO TALK ABOUT
HOW WE DEVELOPED THE PLAN BASED ON THIS DATA.
2:30:09PM >> THANK YOU AGAIN, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE CAME FROM THE ORIGINAL
EAST TAMPA CRP FROM 2004.
SO WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, ACTUALLY MORE THAN
WHAT THE ORIGINAL CRP HAD ADDRESSED.
WE LOOKED AT OVER 14 CONDITIONS, EXISTING CONDITIONS,
RATHER.
BUT WE ALSO LOOKED AT ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS IN
TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT IN EAST TAMPA.
WE ALSO IN THE DOCUMENT WE SORT OF SUMMARIZED SORT OF THE
STATUS OF THINGS.
AND A LOT OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT.
AS MENTIONED, WE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME REDEVELOPMENT GOALS FOR A LOT OF THESE
CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE SOME POLICY LANGUAGE AS WELL AND SOME, AS BEEN

MENTIONED ALSO, STRATEGIC ACTIONS ALONG THE LINES OF MANY OF
THESE AREAS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
THIS IS SOME OF THE DATA THAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE SORT
OF COMPRESSED IN MANY WAYS.
I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE HAS THE
EAST TAMPA CRA COME FROM?
WHERE ARE WE AT NOW IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPMENT?
A LOT OF THE DATA SORT OF RECOGNIZES THAT.
I DO WANT TO MENTION ONE OF THE THINGS BROUGHT UP BY OUR
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT WHO IS WORKING ON THIS ALONG
WITH US.
AND IT HAD TO DO WITH JOBS IN EAST TAMPA.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SHOWN HERE, BUT HE TALKED ABOUT BOTH
THE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT PEOPLE -- OUTSIDE OF EAST TAMPA AS
WELL AS JOBS IN EAST TAMPA, AND ALSO THE NUMBER OF JOBS WHO
ARE BEING FILLED BY PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE OF EAST
TAMPA.
NOW, A LOT OF THE DATA, A LOT OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE
DONE, WE TRIED TO TIE IT TOGETHER IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT A
LOT OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT
REALLY IS INTENDED TO DO MORE THAN JUST ONE THING.
WE WERE WELL FOCUSED ON THE ENTIRE CRA IN THAT RESPECT.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS MAP WITH ALL THE 13, 14 DIFFERENT
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE DEFINITELY TRIED TO ADDRESS -- WE KNEW

FROM THE BEGINNING THAT EACH ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS NOT
THE SAME, BUT WE TRIED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING IN EACH ONE OF
THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT TIE BACK TO REDEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES
THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN IN THE CRA.
HERE, JUST, AGAIN, SAMPLE OF NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT HAVE
BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE CRA INCEPTION IN 2004.
WE SORT OF LEFT OFF A LITTLE, ACTUALLY BIG YELLOW ORANGE
SQUARE ON HERE, DEVELOPMENT HEIGHTS ESTATES.
EAST TAMPA STILL HAS A LOT OF NEEDS, OF COURSE.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE ALSO KEYED INTO IS THE FACT
THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD REALLY BENEFIT OR DIFFERENT PARTS
OF THE COMMUNITY CAN BENEFIT FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CATALYST PROJECTS.
NOW, OF COURSE, BELMONT HEIGHTS ESTATES WAS ONE, BUT
THROUGHOUT THE CRA, WHICH IS QUITE LARGE, AS YOU WELL KNOW,
WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT
AGAIN WOULD HAVE A MAJOR, MAJOR IMPACT ON INDIVIDUAL
NEIGHBORHOODS, NEVERTHELESS.
KEY CHALLENGES.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S STILL A NUMBER OF KEY
CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH REDEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE EAST
TAMPA CRA.
I GUESS THE THIRD PARAGRAPH DOWN, EAST TAMPA STILL SUFFERS
FROM A LOW OWNERSHIP RATE AND LACK OF AFFORDABILITY.
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE WELL KNOWN.

AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT
THESE ISSUES, WE KNEW THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO
ADDRESS RIGHT AWAY.
WE DO SEE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THOSE LINES AS WELL.
GIVEN THE LARGE AMOUNT OF VACANT LAND THAT STILL EXISTS
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ON THE OVER 280 ACRES, THAT'S AN AWFUL
LOT OF LAND.
AGAIN, BIGGEST CRA IN THE CITY, 280 ACRES OF LAND IS STILL
QUITE A BIT.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS A LOT OF SMALL INDIVIDUAL HOUSE PARCELS.
SOME ARE LARGER, OF COURSE.
HERE IS WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO TIE SOME OF THESE TOGETHER.
I'LL SHOW YOU IN A MOMENT SOME OF THE DIAGRAMS THAT WE'VE
PUT IN THE CRA PLAN ITSELF.
SOME MORE CHALLENGES, AND AGAIN, WE JUST LIST THEM HERE ON
THE TWO SLIDES.
BUT I'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
HERE IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO A LOT OF THOSE 14
DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT I ALLUDED TO EARLIER.
HERE'S HOW WE ADDRESSED THEM FOR EACH ONE.
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF VACANT PROPERTY AND PARCELS.
WE DO HAVE IDENTIFIED REDEVELOPMENT GOALS.
WE INDICATED SOME POLICY LANGUAGE AND THEN SOME ACTIONABLE
ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ONE.
AND THEN MOVING ON, THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE NUMBER OF

STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
2:36:27PM >> IT COULD BE GOOD TO BOUNCE THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE.
2:36:42PM >> WE'LL GET TO THOSE IN A MOMENT.
WE'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
MORE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
THIS MAP, AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS IN VARIOUS ITERATIONS
IN THE PAST, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID, WE IDENTIFIED CERTAIN
PRIORITY AREAS FROM THE INITIAL CRA PLAN FOR 2004.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FROM 2022.
BOTH DOCUMENTS, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER DOCUMENTS, OTHER
STUDIES DONE IN EAST TAMPA ALSO ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE --
REDEVELOPMENT, RATHER, ALONG CERTAIN CORRIDORS.
HERE'S WHERE WE TRIED TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE
UNCOVERED DURING OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS, AND THEN
WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING REDEVELOPMENT,
IDENTIFYING REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
NOW, THE GRAPHICS IN SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IS NOT
TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IN THE CRA PLAN.
BUT, AGAIN, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, GIVEN THE TIME
CONSTRAINTS, SIX AND A HALF YEARS LEFT IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA
BEFORE SUNSET.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THINGS
THAT THE COMMUNITY SAID THEY WANTED, AND THINGS THAT HAVE
BEEN SORT OF LINGERING FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
2:38:25PM >> SOME OF THESE DIAGRAMS JUST SORT OF SHOW EXAMPLES OF WHAT

CAN BE BUILT THERE BASED ON REGULATIONS AND JUST WHAT MAKES
SENSE ECONOMICALLY.
AND SOMETHING THAT IS EASY, BASICALLY, THAT'S LOW-HANGING
FRUIT THAT IS EASY TO MAKE MORE OF QUICKLY.
THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.
THESE ARE LIKE COMMERCIAL GROUND FLOOR MIXED-USE BUILDINGS
WITH APARTMENT UNITS THAT CAN FLUCTUATE HOWEVER MANY ROOMS
ARE NEEDED ON THE TOP FLOORS, HOWEVER MANY FLOORS MAKE SENSE
TO DO.
BUT THEY ARE ALL IN THE CORRIDOR, SO THE IDEA WITH THE
CORRIDORS IS THEY HAVE MAXIMUM IMPACT ON THE MOST NUMBER OF
PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE SORT OF FLOWS DOWN TO
THE STREETS AND MEETS EACH OTHER.
2:39:10PM >> THIS IS ALSO RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AS WELL.
FOCUSING ON THOSE CORRIDORS AS NODES, AGAIN, PLACES WHERE
PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY WALK TO, TO ACTIVATE THESE BUSY
INTERSECTIONS AT THE MAJOR CORRIDORS.
MOST OF THEM DO APPEAR AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE CRA, BUT
YOU HAVE A FEW THAT ARE THROUGH THE HEART OF BOTH NORTH,
WEST, EAST -- I'M SORRY, NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST-WEST THROUGH
THE CRA AS WELL.
2:39:41PM >> THESE ARE LITTLE DIFFERENT, EITHER STAND-ALONE
COMMERCIAL, OFFICE OR JUST TOWN HOUSES THAT SORT OF MORE
CONNECT WITH THE STREET OR QUADRUPLEXES THAT OTHER THINGS,
MODELS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER.

DIFFERENT -- MAXIMIZING THE DIVERSITY OF WHAT CAN BE BUILT
AND GIVING A PICTURE TO PEOPLE TO SORT OF FILL IN AND EASILY
ACT ON.
2:40:05PM >> EAST TAMPA HAS AN EFFECTIVE INFILL HOUSING STRATEGY OR
PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH
A LOT OF LOCAL PARTNERS, NONPROFITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
LET'S SAY AND OTHER COMMUNITY BUILDERS.
THIS HAS EXPANDED HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE DISTRICT.
BUT EAST TAMPA NEEDS AND DESERVES ALL TYPES OF HOUSING.
THIS DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT IS --
2:40:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK YOU
NEED?
2:40:41PM >> A COUPLE MORE MINUTES.
2:40:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FOUR MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES?
2:40:44PM >> FIVE.
THIS DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT ADDRESSES ONE OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT
UP BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK ABOUT HOUSING.
EAST TAMPA HAD A CRA OVERLAY DONE A FEW YEARS AGO THAT
ALLOWED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
THERE AREN'T ANY AT THIS POINT.
WE TIED THAT TO THE ALLEYS ANALYSIS THAT WE DID.
THERE'S OVER 26 MILES OF ALLEYS IN EAST TAMPA.
AND WE THOUGHT -- IF WE ACTIVATE THEM AS WAS MENTIONED
EARLIER, GREAT WAY TO LOOK AT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AS
ONE TYPE OF HOUSING.

OTHER REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND THIS IS THE ONE --
THIS ONE JUST TALKS ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR
SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
THIS IS DOWN IN THE COLUMBUS DRIVE AREA.
THERE ARE SOME DILAPIDATED INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE
JUST WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING WITH.
THIS ONE TALKS ABOUT CATALYST PROJECTS.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS LARGER PROJECT OF SOME TYPE, PROJECT OF
SOME TYPE CAN BENEFIT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE
DISTRICT.
WE ALSO TOOK A FAIRLY DEEP DIVE INTO SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC
INFORMATION.
THERE ARE SOME TRENDS THERE THAT DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK
TO, SOME PEOPLE SAY SOME OF THESE ARE ALARMING FOR THE
COMMUNITY, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF THESE ISSUES CAN
BE OVERCOME.
FUTURE OUTLOOK AND NEXT STEPS.
THIS CHART JUST SORT OF SHOWS AGAIN TIF PERFORMANCE OVER THE
YEARS, AS WELL AS EXPENDITURES.
AND THEN JUST A NUMBER OF RANDOM IMAGES OF SOME OF THE
PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED OVER THE YEARS IN THE CRA.
I THINK WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF THIS TIME FRAME.
AT ANY RATE, THAT'S IT.
AGAIN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE

CRA, BOTH STAFF AND YOU, THE BOARD, ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL
AS THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
2:43:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN HURTAK.
2:43:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THANK YOU.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THESE 190
PLUS PAGES, YOU HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF, ONE,
CAPTURING THE COMMON SENSE, TOO.
SOMETIMES THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WORK INTO THESE
ACADEMIC TYPE OF EXERCISES THAT DON'T CAPTURE COMMON SENSE.
AND I FIND THAT WHEN I READ THIS DOCUMENT, I FOUND A LOT OF
THE ASSUMPTIONS, THERE WERE THINGS LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT
WE SHOULD BE DOING.
AGAIN, THE CATALYST CONCEPT OF CREATING SOME TYPE OF SCALE.
I'LL KEEP PITCHING IT UNTIL SOMEBODY OUT THERE BITES, THAT
IN EAST TAMPA CRA, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CATALYST
PROPOSAL ON SOME TYPE OF COMPLEX FOR SPECIFICALLY AFRICAN
AMERICAN ARTISTS TO LIVE, WORK, DISPLAY ASSOCIATED WITH CAFE
OR SOME OTHER THING, LIKE AN ENTIRE BLOCK OF SOMEPLACE THAT
COULD BE A DESTINATION, A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK TO, SOME
PLACE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ARTS OR FOR THE COMMUNITY
ARTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CATALYST PROPOSAL FOR EAST

TAMPA.
AGAIN, I THINK YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB.
WHEN IT'S THAT TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE REPORT.
THANK YOU.
2:45:00PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
2:45:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES THIS HAVE TO COME TO US AS COUNCIL?
IT SAYS CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION.
2:45:10PM >> TODAY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU AS CRA BOARD FOR YOU TO
APPROVE IT TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT
WILL COME BACK TO THE CRA BOARD AGAIN, MOTION IS TO MOVE IT
FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
2:45:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL.
I GET IT.
JUST WANTING TO KNOW.
I APPRECIATE THIS PROPOSAL.
I ESPECIALLY LIKED SEEING IN THE HOUSING PORTION
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.
I REALLY LOVED WHAT YOU ALL HAD TO SAY ABOUT VACANT LAND.
AND -- BECAUSE I DON'T SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, I'M
ACTUALLY GOING TO A VACANT TO VIBRANT CONFERENCE IN
SEPTEMBER THAT IS LITERALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT WE DO WITH
VACANT PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
I'LL LEARN FROM FOLKS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND I'M REALLY
EXCITED TO BRING THAT BACK, ESPECIALLY TO WORK IN SOME OF

THE AREAS IN EAST TAMPA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
I DO HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED IT IN
PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY IS THERE ROOM FOR A STADIUM IN THIS
PLAN?
HAD TO ASK.
[ LAUGHTER ]
2:46:15PM >> ACTUALLY, NO.
2:46:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
ASKED AND ANSWERED.
THE ANSWER IS NO MIMI.
2:46:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
2:46:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING, I DISAGREE.
I READ THROUGH THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
I WORKED ON A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT LANGUAGE IN THE BEGINNING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S FOLLOWED THROUGH IN THE DETAIL.
SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
WE ALSO HEARD NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS.
ONE PERSON IN PUBLIC COMMENT SAY IT DOESN'T REPRESENT.
I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
2:46:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
2:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MADAM CHAIR?
2:47:21PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM.
B. PARKS FOR THE RECORD, CRA DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR.
THIS IS THE WALK-ON ITEM FOR URBAN REWORX.
WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM 3.5 MILLION.
WE'RE PARTNERING WITH HOUSING, WHICH IS GOING TO PROVIDE
THEM ANOTHER 750.
TOTAL CONTRIBUTION ABOUT 4.2 MILLION.
TOTAL PROJECT COST AT 9.4.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE, BUT I'M HERE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
2:47:55PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
JUST BECAUSE I KNOW --
2:47:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO MOVE IT.
2:47:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.
I WAS NOT HERE AT THE LAST CRA MEETING BUT I WATCHED THE
VIDEO.
I SAW ON THE VIDEO MR. McCRAY GET UP AND SAY THIS IS GOING
TO BE ON THE AGENDA THE NEXT MEETING.
SO MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT A WALK-ON AND NOT ON THE
AGENDA?
2:48:16PM >>BELIX PARKS:
DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT, DIRECTOR
McCRAY.

2:48:19PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'VE HAD
SOME -- A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE ATTORNEYS, AND
WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS
PAST TUESDAY.
AND I DID INFORM THE CHAIR THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO WALK IT ON.
THEN THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE'VE HAD SUBSEQUENTLY LEADING UP TO
THE MEETING THURSDAY WE WANTED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
2:48:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN ON AS A PLACEHOLDER
AND ADDED THE DOCUMENT LATER SO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE AWARE OF
IT?
2:48:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I THINK BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT -- I KNOW
THERE WAS A LOT, A LOT OF DISCUSSION, AND BACK AND FORTH
JUST TO GET THIS TO A PLACE THAT BOTH PARTIES COULD AGREE
ON.
I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY IS THE REASON WHY WE END UP HAVING
TO DO AS A WALK-ON.
2:49:10PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
YES.
WALK ON TODAY AND COME BEFORE YOU ALL ON THE CITY COUNCIL
SIDE FOR THE 750 THROUGH HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE 18th.
JUNE 18th.
2:49:25PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:49:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION WITH AN EXPEDITED

PAYMENT SCHEDULE OF 24 MONTHS.
2:49:31PM >> SECOND.
2:49:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S NOT THE MOTION.
2:49:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S NOT THE AGREEMENT.
2:49:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WASN'T WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, WASN'T IT
BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE?
2:49:48PM >>BELIX PARKS:
I WOULD GIVE SOME BACKGROUND.
THESE UNIT CREATION AND CONVERSION DEALS, IN ORDER TO HAVE
MULTIPLE PROJECTS, NOT JUST THIS ONE, IF WE WOULD HAVE
FUNDED TRADITIONALLY, THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY PROJECT THAT
WE'LL BE ABLE TO FUND AT THAT POINT.
SO WE INSIDE HAD TO DETERMINE A THREE-YEAR TERM FOR IT.
SO THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO DO MULTIPLE PROJECTS ASIDE
FROM THIS ONE.
I KNOW THIS WAS IMPORTANT, BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER ONES THAT
ARE IMPORTANT.
SO THE APPLICANT DID ASK FOR IT TO MIMIC THEIR CONSTRUCTION
LINE OF CREDIT.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT ARE ASKING FOR THAT.
THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT CAME BEFORE US THAT HAD THE
SAME THREE-YEAR TERM AND THEY ARE MAKING IT WORK AT THAT
SMALLER SCALE.
SO THAT'S THE BACK AND FORTH THAT WE'RE HAVING OVER THAT.
BUT IF WE APPROVE IT AT THE THREE-YEAR TERM, WE'RE ABLE TO
BUDGET ALL OF OUR OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE HAVE TO KEEP IT AT THE SAME TERM.
THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
2:50:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.
I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND IT
WAS IRONIC BECAUSE I SPOKE AGAINST THIS.
ONCE COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL,
THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE ALL IN.
IF THE DEVELOPER IS SAYING THAT THEY NEED THE 24 TO BE ABLE
TO MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS.
2:51:13PM >>BELIX PARKS:
JUST TO ADD SOME CONTEXT ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN.
ONCE IT'S APPROVED, HE'LL HAVE FY '26 DOLLARS OF THE 1.6.
TEN ONE -- THE CITY 750.
HE'LL HAVE OVER $3 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR STARTING
CONSTRUCTION.
2:51:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER THE
PAST, I THINK, WEEK AND A HALF REGARDING THIS.
THAT INFORMATION YOU JUST GAVE TO US, THAT WAS SHARED WITH
THE DEVELOPER AS WELL, AND THAT IS WHERE THE CONSENSUS CAME,
CORRECT?
2:51:52PM >>BELIX PARKS:
CORRECT.
WE DID AGREE THAT WE COULD -- IF WE COULD PAY THEM SOONER WE
WOULD COME BACK AND ADD AN AMENDMENT FOR IT TO THEN BE PAID
OUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.
SO THERE IS THAT -- SO BETWEEN MANAGER NU EZ AND MYSELF,

WE'RE MONITORING THE PROGRESSION OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS
THAT ARE FROM THE EAST TAMPA CRA TIF.
SO IF THEY MOVE QUICKER THAN THE OTHER ONES AND WE HAVE THEM
BUDGETED WE'LL COME BACK AS AN AMENDMENT TO PAY HIM OUT
SOONER.
AND THAT'S WHAT --
2:52:30PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT C, YOU'LL SEE THE
LANGUAGE.
AS A NOTE UNDER THE ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT SCHEDULE, THAT IF
IT'S READY TO GO SOONER AND THE MONEY IS AVAILABLE, IT COMES
BACK TO YOU AND YOU CAN APPROVE IT ON A MORE EXPEDITED
BASIS.
SO THE OPTION IS THERE, BUT IT'S NOT ON YOU TO DEFINITELY DO
THAT.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
IT'S BEEN PROVIDED FOR IN THE LANGUAGE AND YOU'LL SEE IT AT
THE BOTTOM OF THE ALTERNATIVE CHART ON EXHIBIT C.
2:52:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENT --
2:52:57PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THEY ACCEPTED ALL THE LANGUAGE IN THE
AGREEMENT.
IT GOT FINALIZED JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
2:53:07PM >>BELIX PARKS:
I'M LOOKING FOR US TO APPROVE IT SO WE CAN
GET IT STARTED.
2:53:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S HEAR FROM THEM FIRST.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION.

2:53:15PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH DIRECTOR
McCRAY AND OUR STAFF REGARDING THIS AND ATTORNEY SHEPARD
AS WELL.
SO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH US WAS ALSO SHARED
WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR ATTORNEYS, AND THAT WAS AGREED
UPON AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ACCESS IN THE
EVENT THAT THEY ARE FINISHED, YOU KNOW, OR ABLE -- THEY WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO THIS MONEY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY DO
A 24-YEAR TERM.
THAT WAS AGREED UPON FROM BOTH PARTIES IS WHAT I -- I SEE
HEADS SHAKING.
2:53:50PM >>BELIX PARKS:
THAT'S CORRECT.
2:53:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
DISCUSSION, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
2:53:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY GOOD PROJECT THAT'S GOING
TO DO A LOT OF GOOD FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND REALLY GO TO THE HEART OF WHAT CRAs ARE FOR.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND I REALLY WANT TO CLARIFY THIS
-- THAT IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THE DEVELOPER.
I WOULD SUGGEST IF, WITH THE CONSENT OF THE BOARD, THAT WE
HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
WE CAN TIME THEM AT THREE MINUTES, TWO MINUTES, WHATEVER,

WHAT'S THE HARM?
THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS PROBLEMATIC.
I JUST WANT THE INFORMATION BEFORE I VOTE.
2:54:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL.
2:54:37PM >>BELIX PARKS:
I WANT TO SAY THIS INTERFERES WITH OUR OTHER
OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
IN ORDER FOR US TO FUND MULTIPLE PROJECTS, I GET THIS, I
LOVE THIS PROJECT, IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.
I HEARD ALL OF THE STUFF ABOUT IT BEING PERSONAL.
IT'S NOT PERSONAL.
I'LL TRYING TO MAKE THE MOST OUT OF PROJECTS WITH THE LITTLE
BIT OF MONEY I HAVE.
SO, AGAIN, THERE ARE SMALLER SCALE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING
ALONG -- THE -- SAME THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT AND IT'S MOVING
FORWARD.
AGAIN, YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT THIS IS A WAY FOR
US TO BUDGET MULTIPLE PROJECTS UNDER THIS ONE LINE ITEM.
WE HAVE TO BE SURE TO DO THAT WITH THIS EAST TAMPA MONEY.
I WANT TO BE PUBLIC ABOUT THAT.
WE HAVE ABOUT SIX PROJECTS, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THE 30 INQUIRIES THAT CAME RIGHT WHEN WE
OPENED UP THIS PROGRAM, THERE WERE 30 PEOPLE THAT CAME
SAYING THEY HAVE THIS PROJECT, THAT PROJECT.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO DO THE MOST OUT OF THE LITTLE BIT OF
MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR UNIT CREATION.

IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO --
2:55:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TEN SECONDS IF I MAY TO CLARIFY.
2:55:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TEN SECONDS AND THEN BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
2:55:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
NOTE WAS SAID ABOUT SOMETHING, PERSONAL WITH THE APPLICANT,
I NEVER HEARD THAT.
I DON'T RELY ON THAT INFORMATION OR ANY POTENTIAL ALLEGATION
TO MAKE MY REQUEST.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PRIVY TO THAT KNOWLEDGE OR
CONTROVERSY TO THE EXTENT IT EXISTS.
2:56:13PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
2:56:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY STARTED APPLYING LIKE A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO.
FOR A SMALL DEVELOPER, THIS COULD MAKE OR BREAK THAT.
AND THE SECOND THING IS THAT WE HAD PLENTY OF MONEY FOR THIS
PROJECT, BUT WE WERE NOT TOLD UNTIL THE VOTE THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WAS HOLDING OUT $9 MILLION FOR EDC PROJECT
WHICH IS GOING TO BE A BOONDOGGLE IN THE END.
HAD WE NOT FUNDED THAT $9 MILLION, WE EASILY COULD HAVE
FUNDED EVERYTHING THIS PROJECT WANTS.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING
IN THE DOOR AND SMALL DEVELOPMENTS SPREAD OUT INSTEAD OF THE
MAYOR'S PRIORITY.
THIS IS THE CRA, NOT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

2:56:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE THE
DEVELOPER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THIS.
TALKING ALMOST EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY ABOUT THIS.
LAST I HEARD UP UNTIL YESTERDAY EVENING WAS THAT THIS WAS
TAKEN CARE OF AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
PROJECT AND THAT EVERYONE AGREED TO ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT
WAS IN HERE.
THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD AS THE CHAIR.
I'M A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED AS TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE I THOUGHT EVERYONE'S ATTORNEYS AND EVERYONE WAS
AGREED UPON WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US.
IS THAT NO LONGER THE CASE?
2:57:38PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
NO, THAT IS THE CASE, MA'AM.
YOU WERE THE LAST -- AS THE CHAIR, YOU WERE THE LAST ONE I
SPOKE TO YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES RELATED TO --
AND THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE FOLKS FROM URBAN
REWORX AND WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE BEFORE 12:00
YESTERDAY.
WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD AS THE CRA.
URBAN REWORX AS DEVELOPMENT GROUP ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE JUST SEEKING THE BOARD'S APPROVAL ON THIS AGREEMENT.
2:58:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM ONE OF THE BOARD
MEMBERS TO HEAR FROM OUR -- MR. BEREDAY.

THREE MINUTES.
2:58:21PM >> HELLO.
PAT BEREDAY WITH URBAN REWORX.
WE ARE THE DEVELOPER.
VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CRA BOARD AND MOVING
THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO ALIGN WITH THE CRA STAFF AND GET TO
THIS POINT AND THIS IMPORTANT MILESTONE SO THAT WE CAN
PROCEED.
WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DELAY ON THIS PROJECT
BECAUSE WE ARE READY TO BREAK GROUND AS SOON AS IT COINCIDES
WITH YOUR SCHEDULE, WE WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE WITH YOU AND
SCHEDULE A GROUNDBREAKING SOON AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT TO DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
TO THE COMMUNITY.
OUR GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN EVERYONE DESERVES A HOME.
THAT'S OUR BELIEF AND WE WANT TO GET GOING AND SHOW YOU WHAT
WE CAN DO AND MAKE THIS REAL.
SORRY IF THIS HAS BECOME CONTROVERSIAL AND THIS IS
CONTINUING TO BE DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE SIGNED THE AGREEMENT AND ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S BEFORE
YOU SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT MS. PARKS SAID, THERE'S NO
AMENDMENT THAT'S CONTEMPLATED.
IT'S ACTUALLY BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT ITSELF AS DRAFTED

THAT WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO THE CRA BOARD SHORTLY.
I ANTICIPATE WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SEPTEMBER 30 OF THIS YEAR, WHICH IS SORT OF THE DROP-DEAD
DATE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU ONCE WE
HAVE BROKEN GROUND AND SHOWN YOU THAT WE ARE PROCEEDING
ALONG THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE IN MIND THAT WE
ARE GOING TO NEED THE FULL FUNDING THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO
US OF THE 3.5 MILLION FROM THE CRA.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT FUNDING, AND THAT OUR
CONSTRUCTION LENDER KNOW THAT THE FULL AMOUNT OF FUNDING IS
AVAILABLE TO ALIGN WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, WHICH IS
A 12 TO 15-MONTH CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, BUT I VERY MUCH
BELIEVE IN MY HEART OF HEARTS WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THAT.
THIS IS ONE WHERE WE'LL OVER DELIVER ON OUR PROMISES.
I BELIEVE WE CAN BUILD THIS PROJECT VERY RAPIDLY AND THUS WE
WILL NEED THE FULL FUNDING ON TWO-YEAR CYCLE RATHER THAN A
THREE-YEAR CYCLE.
WE WERE, I BELIEVE, THE VERY APPLICANT UNDER THE UNIT
CREATION CONVERSION FUND IN THIS NEW CYCLE OF FUNDING, AND
THERE WAS NO TWO-YEAR VERSUS THREE-YEAR RULE AT THE TIME WE
APPLIED.
ALWAYS IN OUR APPLICATION FROM THE INCEPTION THAT THE
REIMBURSEMENT OF PAYMENTS WOULD ALIGN TO OUR ACTUAL
CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
THAT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE THE EXPECTATION OF OUR

CONSTRUCTION LENDER, AND THAT REMAINS OUR EXPECTATION.
BUT WE'VE COME UP WITH A PROCESS WITH SIGN-OFF FROM ALL
RELEVANT COUNSEL SO WE CAN GET BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AND
RESOLVE THIS.
WE'RE EFFECTIVELY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT
BUT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
3:01:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
I DEFINITELY THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT PROJECT.
I REALLY DO.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT MOVE FORWARD AS WELL.
AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, DIRECTOR McCRAY, IN THE EVENT
THAT THEY COMPLETE SOONER, THE FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
THEM, CORRECT?
THAT'S WHAT IS WRITTEN INTO HERE.
WHAT EVERYBODY AGREED UPON AND SIGNED.
3:01:32PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
WE'RE MONITORING AND THEY ARE MOVING
FORWARD BREAKING GROUND AND THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE, IN THE
EVENT THEY ARE MOVING FASTER THAN ANTICIPATED, THEN WE WILL
BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
3:01:45PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL RIGHT.
THERE WAS A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND A SECOND FROM
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:01:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I THINK -- MAKE

SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
SO THEY HAVE A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE -- AGAIN, PREEMPT THIS
SAYING I SPOKE AGAINST THIS TO BEGIN WITH.
ONCE THE BOARD MADE A DECISION, LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND GET
THIS DONE.
IF THEY ARE MOVING AHEAD ON SCHEDULE, AND LET'S SAY THEY ARE
DONE IN 15 MONTHS, WHEN YOU BRING THIS TO US, ARE WE ABLE TO
FUND THIS PROJECT?
3:02:21PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, WE ARE.
3:02:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN DO THE ACCELERATED.
AS LONG AS THEIR SCHEDULE, AS LONG AS THEY ARE BUILDING,
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE THEM IN 24 MONTHS OR
LESS.
3:02:36PM >> YES.
3:02:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS SAID
EARLIER BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING YOU COULDN'T FUND OTHER
PROGRAMS IF WE FUND THIS.
3:02:39PM >>BELIX PARKS:
NO, I SAID WE HAD TO FUND MULTIPLE PROGRAMS
IF WE WERE TO PUT IT DOWN FOR THREE YEARS.
ME AND MANAGER NU EZ, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE
PROJECTS BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE
SLATED FOR, LET'S SAY, FY '26, '27, '28 THAT MIGHT MOVE
SLOWER THAN THE OTHER PROJECTS.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE IT EARMARKED FOR THAT MONEY, WE CAN PAY
OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THROUGH REPROGRAMMING.
3:03:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AFTER TODAY WHEN WE MAKE THIS VOTE, WE'LL
HAVE TO BLOCK THAT, FOR THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE WE'RE
ANTICIPATING HE'S GOING TO GET THIS THING DONE IN LESS THAN
24 MONTHS.
YOU'LL RESERVE THAT MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT.
3:03:23PM >>BELIX PARKS:
YES, SIR.
WE DO THAT WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
WHEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD WE ENCUMBER THE MONEY THROUGH A
PURCHASE ORDER.
3:03:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MY INITIAL MOTION IS VALID TO APPROVE THIS
WITH ACCELERATED PAYMENT PROGRAM.
3:03:36PM >> NO.
3:03:40PM >> HAVE TO DELIVER FIRST.
3:03:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:03:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WAIT.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW ALREADY.
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
MANISCALCO.
DO YOU WANT TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE?
THE MOTION WAS TO ACCEPT THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED --
ALREADY SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES --
3:04:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEY ALREADY SIGNED THE AGREEMENT YESTERDAY.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS APPROVING THE AGREEMENT THAT URBAN REWORX
HAS ALREADY SIGNED.

3:04:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MADE A MOTION AND IT WAS SECONDED BY
VIERA OR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, I THINK, TO
APPROVE THIS WITH THE ACCELERATED PROGRAM.
3:04:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:04:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:04:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
IT SAYS THAT IN THE PAPER WORK.
IT SAYS THAT IN THEIR AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
3:04:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
I WAS GOING TO DO A QUESTION ON THE MOTION.
WITH REGARDS TO THE ACCELERATED 24-MONTH SCHEDULE, HOW IS
THAT DISTINCT ON WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON?
BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED.
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY CONFUSION.
3:04:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ATTORNEY SHEPARD.
3:05:01PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
AGAIN, BASED ON PERFORMANCE.
THEY ARE SAYING, YOU HEARD HIM SAY, I THINK WE'LL BE IN 15
MONTHS.
HE THINKS.
CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T THINK.
IT HAPPENS.

IT HASN'T HAPPENED.
WE HAVE A TRADITIONAL SCHEDULE.
SCHEDULE ONE, WE HAVE AN EXPEDITED SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE TWO.
UNDER SCHEDULE TWO ON EXHIBIT C IT SAYS IF THEY MEET THE
EXPEDITED PROGRAM, IT STILL HAS TO COME BACK TO YOU.
MS. PARKS IS TELLING YOU THEY ARE EARMARKING THE MONEY SO
THEY'LL HAVE IT.
BUT THE PERFORMANCE IS THE ASPECT THAT'S MISSING.
WE DON'T HAVE PERFORMANCE YET.
3:05:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALSO ATTORNEY SHEPARD, WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON
RIGHT NOW IS ALREADY SIGNED, YES?
3:05:41PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
YES.
ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SIGNED IT ARE US.
3:05:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHEPARD, WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO COME
BACK BEFORE US THEN?
3:05:54PM >>CLIFF SHEPARD:
THE ANSWER IS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE
BECAUSE THE PROGRAM THAT YOU ALL APPROVED IS A THREE-YEAR
PROGRAM TYPICALLY, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR GUIDELINES SAY THAT
WE DON'T AS STAFF OVERRULE YOUR GUIDELINES WITHOUT YOUR
SAY-SO.
3:06:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, THEN MY INITIAL MOTION OF AN
ACCELERATED PROGRAM WOULD HAVE AMENDED THAT.
IF THIS BOARD -- BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED RIGHT NOW BY SAYING
IT'S GOT TO COME BACK, LET'S SAY FOUR OF US DROP DEAD
TOMORROW AND FOUR OTHER PEOPLE SITTING THERE, COUNCILMAN

VIERA IS LEAVING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT BOARD,
THAT BOARD COULD ACTUALLY SAY NO AND PUT THEM BACK ON A
THREE-YEAR TIMELINE.
WHY IS IT COMING BACK?
3:06:39PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WE ALREADY VOTED.
3:06:50PM >> WAS IT UNANIMOUS?
3:06:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I SAID ALL IN FAVOR.
WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT THIS
AGREEMENT THAT IS SIGNED, THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED WITH
ALL PARTIES.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND SECONDED BY
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
3:07:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ACTUALLY, IF I MAY, DOING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION,
AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMENDMENT -- TAKE HUNDRED PERCENT
WHAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID, TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT
THEY COME BACK TO US FOR THIS --
3:07:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DISAGREE.
3:07:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I FINISH?
3:07:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT TAKING THAT AMENDMENT.
3:07:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
I WOULD ANTICIPATE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MA'AM, YOUR

POSITION --
3:07:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I AM SO PERPLEXED RIGHT NOW AS TO WHY WE ARE
AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
IF THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT IS ALREADY SIGNED, THE
COMMUNICATION HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH BOTH PARTIES,
ATTORNEYS, EVERYONE.
I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE ARE HERE.
THE LANGUAGE IS ALREADY IN THERE THAT IF THEY FINISH EARLY,
THEN THE MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
3:08:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I CAN EXPLAIN IF I MAY.
MAY I EXPLAIN MY RATIONALE?
3:08:10PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANT TO DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND.
3:08:22PM >> HE HAS A MOTION FOR A SUBSTITUTE.
3:08:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AGREEMENT THAT'S
ALREADY SIGNED.
3:08:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S RIGHT.
3:08:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, GUYS, VERY BRIEFLY, THIS IS MY
RATIONALE FOR THIS.
IT WAS SAID BEFORE IT HAS TO COME BACK TO US.
WE SUPPORT THIS.
WHO KNOWS, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE IN FIVE MONTHS.
WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN A YEAR, WHENEVER IT COMES BACK
TO US.

IF WE SUPPORT THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE A PATHWAY.
IF YOU GUYS VOTE IT DOWN, WE REVERT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
MOTION, WHICH I WILL SUPPORT.
THAT'S MY RATIONALE.
3:08:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT COUNCIL
THEN?
3:09:08PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
3:09:11PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY:
CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED.
IN THE EVENT THEY COME BACK, IT'S ALREADY IN THE AGREEMENT.
THE LANGUAGE WAS ADDED FOR THAT IN PREPARATION IF THEY
PERFORM AND MOVE FASTER, WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO
YOU.
THAT AMOUNT AS DIRECTOR I WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SIGNING
AT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS AWARE.
THE AGREEMENT IS SIGNED, WHETHER OR NOT A NEW COUNCIL, OLD
COUNCIL OR SOMEONE HAS BEEN APPOINTED, THE AGREEMENT HAS
BEEN SIGNED.
URBAN REWORX HAS AGREED.
THEIR REPRESENTATION AND THEIR ATTORNEYS HAVE AGREED.
ATTORNEY SHEPARD HAS SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON
THIS DOCUMENT BACK AND FORTH.
WE'RE SEEKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS
SIGNED AND AGREED TO.

3:10:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
3:10:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THE APPLICANT JUST TOLD US HE NEEDS
A FASTER TIMELINE AND WILL COME BACK.
SHOULD WE CALL THE QUESTION?
3:10:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
ON THE SUBSTITUTE.
3:10:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
I TAKE THE SUBSTANCE OF 100% OF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
SAID, BUT WITH THE SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT OF WAIVING THE
REQUIREMENT THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US
UNDER THE RATIONALE THAT WE ARE APPROVING IT NOW.
I'M NOT SURE AS TO WHAT CHANGE IF ANY, COUNCIL, NOT TO
MENTION MYSELF LEAVING IN FIVE MONTHS.
THAT'S IT.
3:10:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:10:54PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
LET'S VOTE.
LET'S GO.
LET'S GO.
3:10:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
3:11:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
3:11:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
3:11:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:11:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:11:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.

3:11:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
3:11:14PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION FAILS WITH MIRANDA, MANISCALCO,
HURTAK, AND YOUNG VOTING NO.
3:11:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NOW WE --
3:11:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF THE DEVELOPER, I KNOW THEY ARE
HONORABLE PEOPLE.
WANTS TO ACCELERATE, INSTEAD OF WORKING FIVE DAYS, WORKS
SEVEN DAYS OR SIX DAYS, HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS.
AND I DON'T BLAME HIM.
BUT IT'S UP TO THEM TO WORK THE AGREEMENT.
WORKED THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.
WE'RE ONLY THE RECIPIENT OF THE FUND SAYING YES OR NO.
THEY SIGNED AN AGREEMENT.
IF THAT DEVELOPER CAN DO IT AND I'VE TALKED TO THEM.
THEY CALLED ME ABOUT SOMETHING, I -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY
WERE TALKING ABOUT, I GAVE IT TO THE HEAD OF CRA.
AND THEY TALKED AND WORKED OUT A DEAL.
THIS IS A DEAL THAT THEY SIGNED.
3:12:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ALL DUE RESPECT, WHAT
YOU DESCRIBED IS WHAT WE VOTED DOWN.
WHAT IS ON THE TABLE NOW, IT MAY CHANGE, IF THERE IS A
DIFFERENT COUNCIL, HAVE TO COME BACK FOR PERMISSION.
3:12:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, THEY DO NOT.
3:12:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH
IS TO ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT THAT IS ALREADY SIGNED.

IT IS SIGNED.
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK THAT
WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
3:12:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:12:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:12:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:12:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:12:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:12:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:12:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:12:44PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
3:12:53PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
[ LAUGHTER ]
3:12:55PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL RIGHT.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE OUR BUSINESS?
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS?
WE'LL GO DOWN THE LINE.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
3:13:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, FIRST I SHOULD SAY, DISTRICT 5 WANTED
A LEADER.
YOU SEE GOT ONE.
3:13:21PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
LISTEN, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NOTHING ELSE IN
PUBLIC COMMENT --

[ LAUGHTER ]
3:13:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE GIVING ME A RUN FOR MY MONEY.
3:13:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU.
3:13:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ON A SERIOUS NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION FOR THE CRA BOARD TO ASK THE COUNTY AND THE RAYS TO
NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH THE CRA BOARD.
3:13:49PM >> SECOND.
3:13:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT.
3:13:54PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YOU ALL WANT US TO BE HERE ALL DAY, DON'T YOU?
GO AHEAD.
3:14:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ASKED MR. SHEPARD THIS PAST WEEK FOR
CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
HE PROVIDED CLARIFICATION THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS A
BOARD TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO REPRESENT US FOR NEGOTIATIONS.
WE CAN APPOINT CEDRIC OR APPOINT ANYBODY ELSE TO REPRESENT
US.
THE PROBLEM IS WE CAN'T ALL INDIVIDUALLY DO THAT BECAUSE IT
WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T -- WE
ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WANTS, NEEDS, DESIRES.
REALLY, WHOEVER NEGOTIATES HAS TO COME BACK AND GET FOUR
VOTES.
DON'T HAVE TO GET SEVEN.
3:14:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES BECAUSE I DON'T
WANT RETALIATION AGAINST THEM.
I'M REGULARLY TALKING TO THE PEOPLE INVOLVED OTHER THAN AT

THE CITY.
WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME EXPLICITLY IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS TOLD THEM NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH US.
MAYBE THAT'S FINE ON THE CITY SIDE BUT NOT ON THE CRA SIDE.
WE NEED A WAY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM.
SURE THEY CAN KEEP THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR INFORMED, BUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT YOU SAID THIS MORNING NEGOTIATIONS
ARE CONTINUING, WELL, HOW DO ANY OF US KNOW THAT?
I TALKED TO THE RAYS EVERY OTHER DAY JUST ABOUT, BUT I DON'T
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS.
AND THEY ARE GOING TO -- THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO COME
TO US AND DROP SOMETHING IN OUR LAP.
WE'LL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS.
EVEN IF THEY GO TO A HOME RULE TIF, WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON
IT.
3:15:18PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:15:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD DISAGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH HAVING
SOMEONE NEGOTIATE FOR US.
I HAVE NEVER TURNED DOWN A MEETING WITH THE RAYS, BUT AFTER
MY VOTE, THEY HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO ME AT ALL.
I THINK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR THEM, BUT THAT'S ON THEM.
BUT THEY SHOULD COME BACK AND TALK TO EACH OF US AS A CRA.
I WILL NOT SUPPORT SOMEONE STANDING IN FOR MY PORTION OF THE
ROLE.
JUST WON'T DO IT.

3:15:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ONLY PROBLEM, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK --
3:16:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HOLD ON.
YOU HAD A MOTION.
IT WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
WE ARE IN DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND THEN VIERA.
3:16:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT, IN NEGOTIATIONS,
LET'S SAY YOU WANT BLACK AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTS WHITE,
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE OFF THOSE ISSUES, THEY DON'T
NEED TO GET SEVEN VOTES.
THEY JUST NEED TO GET FOUR.
REALLY, SO YOU COULD NEGOTIATE WITH FOUR PEOPLE INSTEAD OF
SEVEN.
WHERE IF WE HAD SOMEBODY NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF, THEY CAN
NEGOTIATE AND BE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND
BRING THE PROPOSAL TO US AS A BOARD TO VOTE.
3:16:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T TRUST ANYONE TO NEGOTIATE FOR ME.
3:16:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE THAT FINAL VOTE.
3:16:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T TRUST ANYONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
NEGOTIATE FOR US TO NEGOTIATE FOR US.
I DO NOT TRUST --
3:16:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
SHE DOES NOT TRUST ANYBODY TO NEGOTIATE WITH HER.
[ LAUGHTER ]
ALL RIGHT.

WE ALL HEARD THAT.
3:17:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU JUST SAID TO
NEGOTIATE WITH ALL OF US.
3:17:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DIRECTLY WITH THE CRA BOARD.
3:17:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO SECOND THAT.
3:17:15PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA AND THEN MIRANDA.
3:17:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
THIS IS SIMPLY A REQUEST ON THE PART OF THE CRA IF WE
SUPPORT THIS BY MAJORITY TO ENGAGE WITH US AS A BOARD,
INDIVIDUALLY AS BOARD MEMBERS.
IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THEM FROM ENGAGING WITH ANYONE ELSE AND
DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANY OTHER PRIVATE CITIZEN, ANY PUBLIC
OFFICIAL, ENTITY -- THAT WE MAY BE NEGOTIATING ON.
I SEE NO CHALLENGE WITH IT.
I SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN WHICH IS IF WE HAVE AN
ISSUE THAT WE WISH TO DISCUSS WITH THE RAYS, THEN WE MAY
INTERVENE AND CALL THEM AS MANY OF US HAVE DONE.
I'VE DONE THAT ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO
ME.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS MOTION, I WOULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT'S
SIMPLY A REQUEST TO ENGAGE.
3:18:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA -- I MEAN MIRANDA.
3:18:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S OVER.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO EVIDENTLY --

3:18:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE THE MOTION AND SECOND AND NOW IN DISCUSSION.
3:18:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO DISCUSSION.
IF I WAS NEGOTIATE, I NEGOTIATE MYSELF AS A BOARD HERE.
NOT GOING TO PUT IT ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHOULDERS BECAUSE
THEN I HAVE TO LOOK LIKE A JERK IF SOMEBODY SAYS I DON'T
LIKE SOMETHING, I'M NOT DOING THAT.
3:18:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:18:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S SO DISINGENUOUS.
WE DEALT WITH AN ISSUE WITH CONTRACT NEGOTIATED BY STAFF.
THEY DO IT EVERY DANG DAY.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN POLITICAL STANCES
THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE STADIUM PROJECT.
SO YOU'LL TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY YOU CAN.
3:18:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE] DON'T QUESTION MY VOTE.
I'M TELLING YOU NOT TO VOTE FOR MY VOTE.
I NEVER QUESTION YOUR VOTE.
DON'T QUESTION MINE.
3:18:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID STAFF JUST NOT NEGOTIATE FOR YOU --
3:19:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEY ARE THE BANK, WE ARE THE MONEY
PEOPLE.
3:19:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY CAN'T THEY NEGOTIATE ON THIS?
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE ISSUE.
3:19:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONEY
OF THE CITY, PERIOD.

3:19:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT JUST HAPPENED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT
WE JUST APPROVED WAS NEGOTIATED BY CRA STAFF.
3:19:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS STAFF AND ANY
OTHER STAFF WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING FOR THE REST OF
YOUR LIFE, THIS CRA ENDS IN 2043.
IT ENDS SOME BEFORE THAT, 2037, 38.
NEGOTIATE SOMETHING HERE, SOMETHING WORTH -- WE DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE.
WE BETTER WAIT UNTIL THE BUDGET COMES UP, THE STATE,
WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, I WOULD IMAGINE 35 TO 45
MILLION DOLLAR LOST IN 2027 COMING UP NOW, AND MAYBE CLOSE
TO 50 MILLION IN 2028.
AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NO
MONEY FOR.
3:20:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN -- OR BOARD MEMBER,
INTELLECTUALLY NEGOTIATION IS NEGOTIATION IS NEGOTIATION.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT GRANTED IT
IS A LARGER SCALE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT THE FACT THAT
STAFF IS NEGOTIATING ON OUR BEHALF, THEY ARE NEGOTIATING ON
OUR BEHALF.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE INTELLECTUALLY IS THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF
THE PROJECT ITSELF, NOT THE FACT THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE
NEGOTIATING ON OUR BEHALF.
3:20:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:20:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL RIGHTY.

BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, ARE YOU BRINGING US BACK TO YOUR
MOTION?
3:20:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, BUT I WANT TO SAY ONE THING, IF I MAY.
ALL OF US -- YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT HOW TO DO A NEGOTIATION.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO
NEGOTIATE IT AND THEN DUMP IT ON US.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT THEN WE'LL REJECT IT AND THEN
WE'LL BE THE BAD GUYS AND THEN IT WILL BE DELAYED AND THEN
DELAYED, AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN INSTEAD, IF THERE IS A GROUP
COLLABORATIVE LIKE THE COUNTY, THEY CAN WORK WITH US.
IN FACT, THE COUNTY IS THE ONE NEGOTIATING THIS, NOT REALLY
THE CITY.
THE CITY IS TAKING SOME OF IT.
WHAT THIS MOTION IS SIMPLY TO ASK THE COUNTY AND THE RAYS TO
NEGOTIATE WITH THE BOARD.
AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO
NEGOTIATE WITH US BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION ALLEGEDLY HAS
TOLD THEM NOT TO.
IF WE GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE WITH US, THEN AT
LEAST THEY'LL KNOW WHAT WE DO.
THINK ABOUT AT THE COUNTY, WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TALKING TO
ALL SEVEN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TRYING TO SEE WHERE THEY
STAND AND WHAT THEY CAN DO.
THE COUNTY STAFF CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH US, EVEN IF THIS
ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT.

AND THEY CAN TALK TO US.
THEY ARE ALREADY NEGOTIATING IT.
BECAUSE ALLEGEDLY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TOLD THEM NOT TO
NEGOTIATE, WE'LL HAVE PERMISSION IF --
3:21:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:21:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL SAY THIS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR AD
VALOREM TAX BILL AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE COUNTY DOESN'T
PAY CITY TAX.
THE CITY PAYS COUNTY AND CITY TAX.
AD VALOREM TAX.
ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS LOOK AT IT.
ACTUALLY, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PAYING TWICE THE TAX WHEN YOU
LIVE HERE.
PAYING CITY AND COUNTY TAX IN YOUR AD VALOREM BILL.
THAT'S ALL.
3:22:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:22:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:22:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:22:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:22:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:22:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:22:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYTHING.

AGAIN, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, WE ALSO COULD HAVE A SINGLE
POINT OF CONTACT -- I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT.
I SAY YES.
3:22:47PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:22:47PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
3:22:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
OKAY.
IS THAT ALL?
BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, ANY NEW BUSINESS?
3:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF TWO TIMES YOU'LL
HEAR THIS.
YOU'LL HAVE TO HEAR IT ON THE CITY COUNCIL SIDE AS WELL.
MOTION FOR THE CRA DIRECTOR, ATTORNEY TO WORK WITH CITY
COUNCIL ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ANY OTHER
RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE STANDARD RULES AND
PROCEDURES, I.E. ATTENDANCE, QUORUM, OPENING, CLOSING, TIME
LINES FOR APPLICATIONS FOR ALL COMMITTEES AND BOARDS AND
RETURN WITH A DRAFT ON SEPTEMBER 10, 2026.
3:23:24PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, A
SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
DISCUSSION?
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:23:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS LONG OVERDUE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR TAKING THIS ON.
3:23:36PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:23:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FINE.

3:23:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ALL IN FAVOR?
3:23:41PM >> AYE.
3:23:42PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ANY OPPOSED?
THAT'S IT.
3:23:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RAYS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
3:23:49PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
3:23:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE ONE MOTION.
NOT CONTROVERSIAL, FOR CRA RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE ARREST
AND CAPTURE OF RAUL CASTRO.
3:24:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
JESUS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
3:24:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY, I DO.
BECAUSE I WAS ASKED ON THE STREET FROM SOME OF THE WOMEN WHO
WERE IN HERE EARLIER TODAY, THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY WE WERE
WEARING THE PINS AND WHO EVERYONE'S PIN WAS.
SO I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY
SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON GAVE ME BEFORE BECAUSE
SHE KNOWS HOW MUCH I LOVE AOC.
SO THIS IS MY AOC PIN.
IF EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WHO THEY ARE WEARING, IT
WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
3:24:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU AND I HAD THE SAME ONE --
3:24:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BAYARD RUSTIN, A CIVIL RIGHTS AND LABOR LEADER

AND GREAT GUY.
GREAT AMERICAN.
ALSO A GAY AMERICAN DURING THE TIME WHEN -- GOOD GUY.
3:25:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M WEARING KAMALA HARRIS.
IT'S FUNNY, I WENT OUT TO LUNCH ON FRANKLIN STREET AND GOT
THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE YOU WEARING?
SAME THING.
AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON USED TO
WEAR A PIN EVERY DAY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA BOUGHT THIS FOR ME, ACTUALLY.
3:25:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AREN'T YOU PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH HER OR
HER HUSBAND?
3:25:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HER HUSBAND.
I'M AN ACQUAINTANCE WITH HER.
I WAS FRIENDS WITH DOUG, YES.
3:25:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I TOOK MINE OFF AT LUNCH, BUT IT'S HARRIET
TUBMAN.
3:25:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:25:50PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I LOVE IT.
I HAVE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON, A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, A
GOOD ONE, VERY GOOD ONE.
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
3:26:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING.
3:26:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE ONE, I WANT TO INTRODUCE --

[INAUDIBLE] -- POLITICAL SCIENCE, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AND
CERTIFIED AS -- WHAT IS THIS?
INTELLIGENCE STUDY.
HE'S HERE WITH US TODAY.
HE IS A GREAT GUY AND I REALLY ENJOY BEING WITH HIM TODAY.
3:26:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF MY MOTHER IS WATCHING, WE TALKED
ABOUT THIS EARLIER, YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS BLUE EYE VALENTI.
MY GRANDPARENTS AND HIS GRANDFATHER KNEW EACH OTHER FROM
BACK IN THE '70s.
A TAMPA THING.
EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY.
3:26:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REDEMPTION, HE DID SPEND A YEAR AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
HE'S PART GATOR.
3:26:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HE LEFT BECAUSE HE LIKES FLORIDA STATE
BETTER.
I DON'T KNOW.
3:27:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I'M TAKING OVER THE GAVEL AS THE
POWERFUL VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE CRA AND OUR CHAIRWOMAN HAS A
MOTION.
3:27:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ACTUALLY, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE, I HAVE
TWO INTERNS -- ACTUALLY, SO DISTRICT FIVE HAS THREE INTERNS.
WE HAVE TWO ALSO.
WOULD YOU LADIES LIKE TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELVES,
PLEASE?

YOU ALREADY MET ONE, THAT WAS KENDALL.
NOW WE HAVE TWO OTHER INTERNS.
3:27:31PM >> HI.
I'M ZAVIAN, ATTENDING HILLSBOROUGH HIGH AS A UPCOMING
SENIOR.
I'M HAPPY TO MEET YOU ALL.
3:27:40PM >> HI.
I'M AN UPCOMING SENIOR AS WELL ATTENDING TAMPA BAY TECH HIGH
SCHOOL.
3:27:53PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE'RE MAKING IT WORK.
OUR OFFICE IS RAN BY WOMEN.
3:27:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:28:02PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:28:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:28:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE MIGHT AS WELL.
WE HAVE TO BE BACK HERE AT 5:00.
THIS CRA MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.