📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2026, 9:00 A.M.

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.

9:04:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
WHY ARE YOU GUYS ALL HERE?
I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL THIS
MORNING AND RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA FOR OUR
INVOCATION.
9:04:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT IS MY DEEP HONOR TO PRESENT PASTOR ALAN M. HARRIS, A
NATIVE OF SAINT LOUIS, MISSOURI.
BEGAN PREACHING AT AGE 19, SERVING FULL-TIME MINISTRY SINCE
AGE 22.
HOLDS DEGREES IN BIBLICAL STUDY, THEOLOGY, AND EXECUTIVE
MBA.
HE CURRENTLY LEADS THE SERVANT OF THE HISTORY OF BEULAH
BAPTIST INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, GO THERE.
WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE ON CYPRESS.

SERVING SINCE BEULAH -- SERVING SINCE ARRIVING AT BEULAH IN
DECEMBER OF 2022, PASTOR HARRIS EXPAND THE MINISTRIES AND
OUTREACH, INCLUDING SOCIAL JUSTICE, HEALTH AND WELLNESS,
FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY, SUPPORT
INITIATIVES.
DEVOTED HUSBAND AND FATHER, PASTOR HARRIS HAS BEEN MARRIED
TO HIS HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEART FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, GUIDED
BY HIS FAITH, COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS, HE CONTINUES TO
MAKE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT AT THE CHURCH AND OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:01AM >> LET US PRAY.
OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, HOW WE DO THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY
THAT YOU HAVE ALLOWED US TO SEE.
GOD, AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A DAY THAT WE HAVE NEVER
SEEN BEFORE AND A DAY THAT WE WILL NEVER SEE AGAIN, WE PRAY,
GOD, THAT YOU WOULD NOT ONLY TEACH TO US REJOICE AND BE GLAD
IN THIS DAY, BUT HELP US, FATHER, TO MAKE THE MOST OF EVERY
MOMENT THAT YOU GIVE UNTO US.
AND ON THIS MORNING, GOD, WE PRAY A SPECIAL PRAYER FOR OUR
CITY COUNCIL, FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO LEAD THEM,
CONTINUE, FATHER, TO GUIDE THEM.
GOD, GIVE THEM YOUR WISDOM, GIVE THEM YOUR INSIGHT, THAT
THEY MIGHT LEAD IN A WAY THAT IS PLEASING TO YOU.

NOT ONLY, GOD, PRAY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT PRAY FOR OUR
CITY AS WELL AND PRAY, GOD, THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP
YOUR HAND UPON THIS GREAT CITY AS WE, LORD, SEEK TO HONOR
YOU IN ALL THAT WE DO.
THIS IS OUR PRAYER THAT WE PRAY IN MY LORD'S NAME AND ALL
THOSE IN AGREEMENT SAY, AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, PASTOR.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
9:07:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:07:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:07:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:07:21AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:07:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:07:23AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:07:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:07:25AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF
THE REGULAR SESSION OF SEPTEMBER 3, 2026 AND THE EVENING
SESSION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 10, 2026.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 70 TO OCTOBER
1st, 2026.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 73 TO DECEMBER 17, 2026.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 74 TO FEBRUARY 4th, 2027.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:08:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I WANT TO PULL ITEMS 12 AND 13 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE.

9:08:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
WE WILL DO THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
LET'S GO TO STAFF REPORTS.
WE ARE BEING TOO EFFICIENT THIS MORNING.
LET'S LOOK.
WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
ITEM 66.
I THINK SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
66, 67, 68, 69, WE'LL HAVE STAFF HERE FOR THAT.
ITEM 70 YOU SAID YES?
9:09:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
70 WE ALREADY CONTINUED.
9:09:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
71, YES.
9:09:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING --
9:09:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
9:09:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
[INAUDIBLE]
9:09:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE LAST TIME.
THAT'S GOOD.
THAT'S IT FOR THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
9:09:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:09:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.

9:09:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY.
9:09:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THE ADDENDUM, I'LL ASK IF
YOU CAN TAKE THIS UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING TO RECEIVE
AND FILE AND TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP.
9:09:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW?
OKAY.
AT THE END.
VERY GOOD.
JUST REMIND ME.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
THE ADDENDUM.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ZIPPING RIGHT ALONG ...
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
9:10:15AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
SO IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE THESE TWO
WONDERFUL YOUNG MEN STANDING NEXT TO ME.
WE HAVE MR. BRYAN HUNTER AND MR. STANLEY JUNIOR WHO WE WILL
BE PRESENTING A COMMENDATION TO TODAY.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY HONORS BRYAN HUNTER AND RUSSELL

STANLEY JUNIOR FOR THEIR ROLES AS POSITIVE CHANGE MAKERS AND
YOUNG LEADERS IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMENDATION RECOGNIZES THESE YOUNG MEN FOR THEIR
OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION TO PLANNING, COORDINATING, AND
EXECUTING POSITIVE TEEN TAKE-OVERS THROUGHOUT THE TAMPA BAY
AREA.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ALL BUT ONE OF THEM, AND WE
HAD A VERY GOOD TIME.
ALONGSIDE -- WELL, TOGETHER, THEY COFOUNDED TAMPA MENTALITY,
A PROGRAM DEDICATED TO EMPOWERING YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY.
IN JUNE OF 2026, TAMPA MENTALITY ORGANIZED A PRIME TURF
TAKE-OVER, A FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT THAT BROUGHT TOGETHER 14
TEAMS FROM ACROSS TAMPA BAY AND MORE THAN 137 YOUNG
PARTICIPANTS.
THROUGH THESE AND SIMILAR EFFORTS, BRYAN AND RUSSELL HAVE
WORKED TO REDEFINE HOW TEEN TAKEOVERS CAN BENEFIT A
COMMUNITY, TURNING TEEN TAKEOVERS INTO POWERFUL
OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONNECTION AND POSITIVE CHANGES.
MR. HUNTER AND MR. RUSSELL HAVE DEMONSTRATED AN UNWAVERING
COMMITMENT TO CREATING CONSTRUCTIVE OPPORTUNITIES AND SAFE
SPACES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEIR DEDICATION TO UPLIFTING TAMPA BAY'S YOUTH IS HIGHLY
COMMENDABLE.
IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE AND GRATITUDE THAT TAMPA CITY

COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON THIS 17th DAY OF
SEPTEMBER 2026 TO BRYAN HUNTER AND RUSSELL STANLEY JUNIOR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE HAVE THESE TWO EXTRAORDINARY YOUNG MEN.
THEY DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE WITH THEM.
WOULD YOU STAND UP WHO WANT TO BE HERE TO CONGRATULATE THEM.
ALSO, PEOPLE YOU MAY KNOW HAVE GIFTS FOR YOU.
THEY WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AS WELL.
9:12:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY ARE SNEAKING UP BEHIND YOU.
WHEN YOU COME UP, IF -- YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
9:12:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M DR. LISA SMITH.
MY SON ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THREE ON THREE, AND IT WAS
THE BEST EXPERIENCE EVER.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
9:13:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GARY HARTFIELD.
I AM A SPONSOR OF WHAT THESE YOUNG MEN HAVE PUT TOGETHER,
AND ALSO I'M A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR HERE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
9:13:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, GARY.
9:13:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MELISSA MOORE WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
ON BEHALF OF SHERIFF CHAD CHRONISTER AND 4,000 MEMBERS OF

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THESE
YOUNG MEN.
WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND THEIR LEADERSHIP IN
A TIME DURING THE SUMMER WHEN WE NEEDED SOMEONE TO STEP UP
AND LEAD OUR YOUTH, THESE YOUNG MEN DID THAT.
AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM AND THANKFUL FOR THEIR
PARTNERSHIP.
THANK YOU.
9:13:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DR. PANSY HOUGHTON.
I WORK WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT TO HONOR THE BOYS.
9:14:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M TRACY BROWN.
I'M WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I'M THE CHIEF OF STUDENT SUPPORT AND FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
VERY EXCITED TODAY FOR THE RECOGNITION FOR THESE YOUNG MEN
WHO ARE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
ONE IS A GRADUATE OF MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
AND RUSSELL HERE IS AT -- MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL AND RUSSELL
IS AT HILLSBOROUGH.
GREAT LEADERS.
THIS IS OUR FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU.
9:14:31AM >> DID THEY CALL YOU TINY?

[ LAUGHTER ]
STEVE MICHELINI ON BEHALF OF CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP AND 600
EMPLOYEES, WE'RE PROVIDING YOU EACH WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE
FOR $50 SO YOU CAN GO ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
ARE YOU RUSSELL?
9:14:46AM >> YES, SIR.
9:14:47AM >> THERE YOU GO.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
YOUTH IS THE FUTURE, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
DEDICATION.
9:15:01AM >> FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR SAFE AND SOUND
HILLSBOROUGH.
SO PROUD TO HAVE YOUNG LEADERS LIKE BRYAN AND RUSSELL TO
TAKE PART IN THIS.
ALREADY GIVEN THEM A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION ON BEHALF OF THE
COMMUNITY, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE, RUSSELL IS A SENIOR.
BRYAN RECENTLY GRADUATED.
WE ARE GIVING THEM $1,000 SCHOLARSHIPS TO CONTINUE THEIR
EDUCATION AND SUPPORT THEM.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:32AM >> JAMAR JEFFERSON, TAMPA PARKS AND REC.
I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND TALKED ABOUT THE GOOD
WORK.
THIS IS A PRODUCT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN TAMPA

PARKS AND REC.
RUSSELL AND BRYAN ARE PRODUCTS OF THE YET CENTER.
I SEE A LOT OF MYSELF IN THEM.
THIS IS THE FUTURE.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND THE NEXT GENERATION.
THESE ARE FUTURE LEADERS.
THEY ALREADY NOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM.
DON'T NEED TO GET EMOTIONAL.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I'M SUPER PROUD OF THEM.
BOTH OF YOU ALL, CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK.
ONE DAY WHEN I RETIRE, YOU CAN HAVE MY JOB.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:16:12AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE MOM IS HERE.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:16:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS POURED INTO
MY BOYS.
AS A SINGLE MOM, IT IS NOT EASY.
IT DOES TAKE A VILLAGE.
I AM SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEIR VILLAGE SHOWED UP TODAY TO
SUPPORT THEM.
THANK YOU.
9:16:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, MOM.

[ APPLAUSE ]
MOM IS THE BEST TITLE YOU CAN HAVE, BUT FOR THE RECORD,
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME?
9:16:46AM >> EARLISHIA OATES.
9:16:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
9:16:55AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO EITHER OF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:16:58AM >> MY NAME IS RUSSELL STANLEY.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT SUPPORTED US.
LIKE MY MOM SAID, IT TAKES A VILLAGE.
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US.
9:17:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, RUSSELL.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:10AM >> MY NAME IS BRYAN HUNTER.
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO ACKNOWLEDGED US TODAY TO SHOW
THAT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE IN THE
COMMUNITY AND THAT OUR VOICES ARE HEARD.
9:17:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:26AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
YOU ALL KNOW I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF YOUTH AND SUPPORTING
OUR YOUTH.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO
RECOGNIZE THESE TWO YOUNG MEN WHO ARE OUR FUTURE.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:17:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:17:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN
YOUNG, FOR PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
I WANT TO SALUTE EVERYBODY.
IT'S POIGNANT AND RELEVANT TO HAVE PASTOR HARRIS WITH US,
GREAT ADVOCATE FOR YOUTH AND SEE GOOD PEOPLE LIKE EARLISHIA
OATES, GARY HARTFIELD, FREDDY BARTON, SO MANY OTHER GOOD
FOLKS.
WE'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, RIGHT?
9:18:05AM >> YES, SIR.
9:18:06AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THERE YOU GO.
YOU ALL ARE AWESOME.
I QUOTED SOMETHING YESTERDAY FROM FATHER EDWARD FLANAGAN,
WHICH IS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BAD BOY.
NO SUCH THING AS A BAD GIRL.
THERE'S JUST BAD ENVIRONMENTS AND IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNCARING
SOCIETIES.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO INVEST IN OUR YOUTH.
GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
GOOD JOB, MOM.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANKS AGAIN, RUSSELL, AND BRYAN.
A LEADER LEADS THE WAY AND THE FOLLOWER FOLLOWS THE LEADER.

YOU GUYS HAVE SET THE TONE FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS
TO COME BEHIND YOU THAT NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF MEETING
YOU.
BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR ATTITUDE AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE, THEY'LL
HAVE FUTURE LEADERS TO FOLLOW.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU DOING AMAZING
WORK.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHEN YOUR MOM CAME UP, I WAS LIKE, WELL, OF COURSE, BECAUSE
EARLISHIA OATES IS KNOWN FOR HER ACTIVISM IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE BEEN A BIG PART OF THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN RAISED IN A WAY TO WANT TO HELP OTHERS.
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE YOUR PRIDE ABOUT WHAT YOUR BOYS HAVE
DONE.
SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR RAISING WONDERFUL CHILDREN.
AND ALSO, CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE TWO OF YOU FOR COMING UP
WITH AN IDEA AND ROLLING WITH IT.
IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT OTHERS SEE THAT THEY CAN
DO WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED.
AND WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED IS SO LARGE.
I REALLY JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO NEXT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]

9:19:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH ON BEHALF OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR -- OH, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
9:19:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REAL QUICK.
HAVING YOU HERE TODAY, I CAN SAY WITH TOTAL CONFIDENCE THAT
THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY IS IN GOOD HANDS.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING US PROUD.
9:20:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:20:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, JUST THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR
FAMILIES AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS.
IT WAS AN IMPORTANT TIME IN OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU ALL ACTED FAST AND DID SOMETHING POSITIVE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I CAN SAY IS YOU ALL TURNED A BIT
OF NEGATIVITY TO POSITIVITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HOPE THAT OTHERS WILL FOLLOW THAT LEAD AND CONTINUE TO
PUSH POSITIVITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONCE AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT
YOU'VE DONE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY --
9:20:41AM >> THE BOYS WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU ALL.
DO IT REAL QUICK.
9:20:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ABSOLUTELY.

ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
LET ME SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE TWO OF YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HINTED INTO THIS, MAKING GOOD ADULTS AND
GOOD CITIZENS STARTS AT HOME, AND IT STARTS IN THE CLASSROOM
AND ON THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR PARENTS,
YOUR FAMILY, AND EVERYONE THAT HAS INFLUENCED YOU TO GET YOU
TO THE POINT YOU ARE TODAY.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE SO WHEN YOU HAVE
CHILDREN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SET THAT SAME STANDARD FOR THE
NEXT GENERATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COME ON UP FOR THE PICTURE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THOSE OF YOU STANDING AGAINST THE
WALL, AS SEATS OPEN UP, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE A SEAT.
THEN WE'LL BACKFILL YOUR POSITIONS.
IF YOU ARE STANDING AND A SEAT COMES AVAILABLE, PLEASE TAKE
A SEAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TWO FRIENDS OF MINE THAT
ARE REALLY DOING INCREDIBLE WORK FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
PAULA NU EZ AND NICOLE LANCASTER ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY

BALLET.
GOOD MORNING, PAULA.
9:22:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:22:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:22:57AM >> THANK YOU.
9:23:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU WANT YOUR PRESENTATION UP?
9:23:05AM >> YES, PLEASE.
9:23:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CCTV, CAN WE GET THE PRESENTATION UP?
WHEN YOU START, START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:23:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
I AM PAULA NU EZ, FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TAMPA
CITY BALLET.
JOINING ME IS NICOLE LANCASTER, OUR DIRECTOR OF MARKETING.
9:23:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IT WILL COME UP.
THERE WE GO.
9:23:34AM >> TAMPA CITY BALLET IS THE ONLY CONTEMPORARY BALLET COMPANY
IN TAMPA.
IT WAS CREATED RIGHT HERE IN OUR CITY.
TODAY, WE WANT TO SHARE WHAT WE HAVE BUILT AND WHERE WE
BELIEVE THIS COMPANY CAN GO NEXT.
THAT STARTS WITH A MISSION THAT HAS GUIDED OUR WORK FROM THE
BEGINNING.
OUR WORK IS COLLABORATIVE, INNOVATIVE, ACCESSIBLE, AND

PROFESSIONAL.
BUT AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING WE DO IS TAMPA -- ITS
PEOPLE, ITS HISTORY AND ITS FUTURE.
WE WANT TO BE PART OF WHAT MAKES TAMPA TAMPA.
FOR ME, THAT MISSION IS PERSONAL BECAUSE IT GOES BACK TO WHY
I STARTED TEACHING IN TAMPA IN THE FIRST PLACE.
MY STORY HERE BEGAN IN 2002 WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I OPENED THE
BALLET SCHOOL WITH JUST THREE STUDENTS.
FROM THE BEGINNING, I HAVE BELIEVED TALENT EXISTS
EVERYWHERE, BUT OPPORTUNITY DOES NOT.
OUR STUDENTS WENT ON TO CAREERS WITH COMPANIES INCLUDING
AMERICAN BALLET THEATER, HAMBURG BALLET, HOUSTON BALLET,
ORLANDO BALLET AND BALLETX.
WE KEEP SEEING TALENTED ARTISTS LEAVE TAMPA WHEN THEY WERE
READY FOR PROFESSIONAL CAREERS.
IN 2018, SIX DANCERS CAME TOGETHER TO CHANGE THAT.
AND TAMPA CITY BALLET WAS BORN.
THAT NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNITY IS REALLY WHAT TAMPA
CITY BALLET WAS CREATED TO ADDRESS.
TODAY, WE CREATE ORIGINAL CONTEMPORARY BALLET WHILE BUILDING
PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMERGING ARTISTS.
WE WANT ARTISTS TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN HERE, CREATE HERE,
PERFORM HERE, AND BUILD A CAREER HERE.
WHAT'S BEEN EXCITING IS SEEING HOW TAMPA HAS RESPONDED AS
THE COMPANY HAS GROWN.

WE NOW PRODUCE MORE THAN 20 PERFORMANCES EACH SEASON, ACROSS
MORE THAN 15 VENUES AND COMMUNITY SPACES AND MORE THAN 30%
OF OUR PERFORMANCES ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT GROWING OUR AUDIENCE IS ONLY PART OF WHAT ACCESS MEANS
TO US.
THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE ON YOUR FEET, WE BRING FREE DANCE
PROGRAMMING DIRECTLY INTO THE COMMUNITY.
WE BELIEVE THE BEST TRAINING SHOULDN'T BE RESERVED ONLY FOR
FAMILIES WHO CAN AFFORD IT.
TALENT HAS NOT TO DO WITH A FAMILY'S INCOME OR ZIP CODE.
WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING THAT WORK THROUGH OUR
COLLABORATION WITH A PROJECT CULTURAL ARTS PROGRAM TO BRING
FREE AFTER-SCHOOL BALLET CLASSES DIRECTLY INTO TITLE ONE
SCHOOLS.
OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE 300 STUDENTS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM ENROLLED IN FREE BALLET CLASSES WITHIN
THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT KIND OF ACCESS CAN LEAD TO.
ANDERSON IS FROM YBOR CITY AND WAS RECRUITED THROUGH OUR ON
YOUR FEET PROGRAM.
HE RECEIVED MORE THAN $43,000 IN SCHOLARSHIP SUPPORT.
ATTENDED INDIANA UNIVERSITY ON A FULL SCHOLARSHIP.
AND TODAY DANCES PROFESSIONALLY WITH BALLETX IN
PHILADELPHIA, ONE OF THE TOP BALLET COMPANIES IN THE UNITED
STATES.

THAT'S WHAT ACCESS CAN DO.
WE WANT MORE YOUNG PEOPLE FROM UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES TO
HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY.
AND THAT COMMITMENT TO TAMPA GOES BEYOND ACCESS.
IT ALSO SHAPES THE WORK WE CREATE.
NICOLE IS GOING TO SHARE ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OF THAT.
9:27:43AM >> THANK YOU, PAULA.
MY NAME IS NICOLE LANCASTER.
AS A TAMPA NATIVE, I MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIASED TOWARD THE
PRODUCTION I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU.
AND THAT IS SEPTIMA.
THAT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE OUR OLD STORIES.
PAULA SPENT YEARS RESEARCHING THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES
THAT BUILT TAMPA AND YBOR CITY IN THE LATE 1800s TO EARLY
1930s.
THROUGH HISTORICAL ARCHIVES, PERSONAL DIARIES, ORAL
HISTORIES, PHOTOGRAPH, NEWSPAPER, AND FIRSTHAND ACCOUNTS.
THAT RESEARCH BECAME THE FOUNDATION FOR THE STORIES THAT YOU
SEE INSIDE OF LA SEPTIMA ONSTAGE.
FROM IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, CIGAR WORKERS, LECTORS,
SEGREGATION, LABOR MOVEMENTS AND CHARLIE WALL IN THE
UNDERWORLD OF EARLY TAMPA.
BALLET, LIVE MUSIC, FILM, IMMERSIVE STORY TELLING, WE'RE
GIVING PEOPLE A NEW WAY TO EXPERIENCE OUR HISTORY.
WHILE LA SEPTIMA LOOKS BACK AT THE HISTORY THAT SHAPED

TAMPA, WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE ARTISTS THAT SHAPE ITS
FUTURE.
WE'RE PROUD TO SHARE THAT TAMPA CITY BALLET WILL BE THE
ARTIST IN RESIDENCE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA FOR
THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO PAULA AND OUR BALLET MASTER, MONTANO, TEACH WITHIN USF
DANCE PROGRAM.
SIX PROFESSIONAL DANCERS ARE ALUMNI OF USF.
12 ARE WORKING WITH TCB THIS SEASON.
THIS CREATES A DIRECT BRIDGE FROM THE UNIVERSITY TRAINING TO
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE.
WE ARE ALSO ATTRACTING TALENT FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 200 PROFESSIONAL DANCERS' RESUM S WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE TAMPA CITY BALLET.
THAT PROFESSIONAL PIPELINE IS JUST ONE OF THE LARGER IMPACT
WE BELIEVE A BALLET COMPANY CAN HAVE HERE.
IT MEANS ACCESS TO THE ARTS, OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPA'S
YOUTH, PRESERVING OUR HISTORY THROUGH WORK LIKE LA SEPTIMA,
AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT EXTENDS BEYOND THE THEATER.
AS THE COMPANY HAS GROWN, WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE THE IMPACT
ON A LARGER SCALE.
WE PRODUCED MORE THAN 220 PERFORMANCES, REACHED MORE THAN 10
MILLION SOCIAL MEDIA VIEWS ANNUALLY AND ENGAGE MORE THAN 50
LOCAL ARTISTS AND CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS PER PRODUCTION
WHICH CREATES JOBS.

AND A SINGLE TCB PRODUCTION REPRESENTS AN INVESTMENT OF
APPROXIMATELY 60 TO 100 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT GROWTH IN OUR COMMUNITY AND REACH HAS ALSO BEEN
REFLECTED FINANCIALLY.
TAMPA CITY BALLET'S REVENUE HAS GROWN SEVEN TIMES SINCE
2018, REACHING MORE THAN $543,000 IN ANNUAL REVENUE IN 2025.
THE GROWTH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALREADY HAPPENING, AND
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THAT REVENUE COMES FROM, YOU'LL GET A
CLEAR PICTURE OF HOW THE COMPANY OPERATES.
SO MORE THAN HALF OF OUR REVENUE COMES FROM TICKETED
PERFORMANCES AND PROGRAMS, BUT WE'RE STILL LARGELY OPERATING
BY PROJECTS, WHICH MEANS WE RAISE THE MONEY, WE HIRE THE
ARTISTS, WE PRODUCE THE WORK, AND THEN BEGIN AGAIN FOR THE
NEXT PRODUCTION.
THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE ON THAT CYCLE SO WE CAN PLAN
FURTHER AHEAD AND PROVIDE MORE CONSISTENT PROFESSIONAL WORK.
AS WE THINK ABOUT THE NEXT STAGE, IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT
WHAT ESTABLISHED PROFESSIONAL BALLET COMPANIES ACROSS
FLORIDA HAVE BUILT OVER TIME.
NOW, THESE COMPANIES GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE
RIGHT HERE AT HOME, BUT MANY OF THESE HAVE HAD DECADES TO
BUILD THEIR AUDIENCES, PARTNERSHIPS, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND
PHILANTHROPY.
TAMPA CITY BALLET IS MUCH EARLIER IN THE JOURNEY AND WE'VE
ALREADY GROWN MORE THAN SEVENFOLD SINCE 2018.

GETTING TO THAT LEVEL OF STABILITY DOESN'T HAPPEN THROUGH
JUST ONE SOURCE OF SUPPORT.
IT TAKES A DIVERSIFIED MODEL, EARNED REVENUE, INDIVIDUAL
GIVING, CORPORATE AND FOUNDATION SUPPORT, GRANTS AND PUBLIC
PARTNERSHIPS.
AND WE SEE THE CITY AS AN IMPORTANT PARTNER IN THAT GROWTH.
SO WE BRING IT ALL TOGETHER, WHERE WE STARTED, HOW QUICKLY
WE HAVE GROWN, THE PARTNERSHIPS WE'RE BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE
THE DIRECTION THE COMPANY IS MOVING.
WE STARTED WITH JUST SIX DANCERS IN 2018.
TODAY WE'RE PRODUCING MORE THAN 20 PERFORMANCES A SEASON,
EXPANDING COMMUNITY ACCESS AND SCHOLARSHIPS, BUILDING A
PROFESSIONAL PIPELINE IS USF, ATTRACTING ARTISTS FROM AROUND
THE WORLD.
WHAT WE'RE BUILDING TOWARDS IS A SUSTAINABLE BALLET COMPANY
WITH MORE YEAR ROUND OPPORTUNITIES, GREATER ACCESS FOR OUR
COMMUNITY, MORE PATHWAY FOR TAMPA YOUTH, MORE ORIGINAL WORK
ABOUT OUR CITY AND ULTIMATELY A PERMANENT HOME FOR BALLET IN
TAMPA.
WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BE PART OF THE
GROWTH.
THE COMPANY IS HERE, AND NOW WE'RE BUILDING ITS FUTURE.
THANK YOU.
9:31:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, NICOLE.
THANK YOU, PAULA.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:32:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS HONORED TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND A
PERFORMANCE THIS LAST SEASON THAT WAS THE CONTEMPORARY
PERFORMANCE THAT WAS JUST, I MEAN, JUST BLEW OUR SOCKS OFF.
IT WAS TRULY AMAZING.
IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A TAMPA BALLET
PERFORMANCE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
WE'RE THRILLED YOU'RE HERE.
JUST A WONDERFUL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT -- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK AFTERWARDS
TALKING TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES NEXT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS UPDATE.
9:32:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:32:36AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GREAT PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL.
WE'RE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU GUYS IN NEW TAMPA IN A WORLD
WHERE MAYBE I SPENT TOO MUCH TIME AT PANERA BREAD, BUT I
THINK BALLET IS A GOOD ESCAPE.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, PAULA, YOU SAID YOU
STARTED THIS EFFORT IN 2002, CORRECT, WITH THE SCHOOL?
9:32:56AM >> YES.
I STARTED IN 2002, JUST WITH A VERY SMALL STUDIO IN NEW
TAMPA.

MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY IN FEW YEARS, SO I WAS VERY LUCKY
THAT UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA OFFERED ME A JOB AS
FULL-TIME FACULTY.
SO I KEEP A SMALL STUDIO AND I WAS WORKING AT THE USF AT THE
SAME TIME.
9:33:19AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT YEAR DID YOU COME HERE FROM VENEZUELA?
9:33:23AM >> I'M ORIGINALLY FROM VENEZUELA.
9:33:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT YEAR?
9:33:27AM >> I CAME IN 2002.
9:33:29AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER YOU SAYING.
FOLKS, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF WORK IMMIGRANTS DO
IN OUR COUNTRY, COMES HERE AS IMMIGRANT, REFUGEE FROM
VENEZUELA THAT YEAR SHE STARTS THAT.
GRACIAS.
THANK YOU.
9:33:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ALREADY KNOW WHERE MY HEART IS AT.
I LOVE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I LOVE WHAT YOU DO FOR THE YOUTH.
I LOVE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR FOLKS THAT MAY
NEVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS TYPE OF A PERFORMANCE.
I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE EYES OF
FOLKS.
AGAIN, WE TALKED EARLIER WITH THE PRESENTATION COUNCILWOMAN
YOUNG BROUGHT, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO BRING UP THE
NEXT GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE AND PROVIDE THESE OPPORTUNITIES

AND HAVING THIS ASSET IN OUR COMMUNITY IS SO INVALUABLE.
I CONCUR WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
LA SEPTIMA WAS AN AMAZING PERFORMANCE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL DO IT AGAIN.
9:34:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, IT WASN'T --
9:34:24AM >> ERA.
9:34:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS IMMERSIVE.
SO PHENOMENAL.
9:34:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL HAVE TO HIT THAT IF THEY DO IT AGAIN.
THE STORY OF TAMPA THAT YOU GUYS DO, IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOT
GONE TO SEE -- I TOOK MY GRANDDAUGHTER TO SEE SLEEPING
BEAUTY.
MY SIX-YEAR-OLD GRANDDAUGHTER.
SHE JUST LOVED IT SO MUCH.
IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
SHE MET THE DANCERS.
IT WAS AMAZING.
REALLY GOOD WORK.
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR GROWTH.
I LOVE THE TRAJECTORY THAT YOU'RE ON.
HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE WILL RIVAL MIAMI IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I NEVER WANT TO BE MIAMI, BUT IN THIS CASE, I DO.
WE WANT TO BE BETTER THAN MIAMI.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING TODAY.
FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE LISTENING TO THIS, DO NOT WALK.

RUN TO SEE THEIR PERFORMANCES THIS NEXT SEASON.
WHEN DOES YOUR SEASON START?
9:35:21AM >> WE STARTED ALREADY.
OCTOBER 2 AND 3rd.
NEW TAMPA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, LA SEPTIMA, AND THEN AT
THE CUBAN CLUB, THE FOUR FLOORS OF THE CUBAN CLUB WILL BE AN
INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE OF HISTORY AND MANY SURPRISES WITH LA
SEPTIMA.
9:35:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY NICE.
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT PRODUCTION AGAIN.
I COULD SEE IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
IT'S THAT GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:35:46AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
9:35:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
MICROPHONE.
9:36:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON SERVICES THAT ARE
HERE.
WHAT THEY DO IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY,
REALLY NEED.
AND THAT'S TO EAT EVERY DAY.
IT'S AN HONOR THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO

RECOGNIZE WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DO.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
9:36:23AM >> MAGGIE ROGERS.
9:36:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION?
9:36:31AM >> THOMAS MANN, FEEDING TAMPA BAY.
9:36:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN WE GET THEIR PRESENTATION?
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:36:43AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
I AM ASKED TO SPEAK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ABOUT OUR ABILITY
TO DO MASS SHELTERING.
THE ONE THING I START OUT WITH, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT
THE SUPPORT OF FOLKS LIKE YOU.
SO MUCH THANK YOU.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
OH, THERE IS A CLICKER.
AS YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2020, WE DID A PILOT PROJECT, NORTH
FLORIDA AVENUE, KNOWING IT WOULD ONLY BE TEMPORARY, 60 DAYS.
DURING THOSE 60 DAYS, WE MOVED 210 FOLKS THROUGH WHAT WE
CALLED AT THAT TIME HILLSBOROUGH HOPE AND 97 TO APARTMENTS.
WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING ON HOUSING.
FLASH FORWARD, NOVEMBER OF 21, WE CLOSED ON A PROPERTY JUST
EAST OF YBOR.
5.49 ACRES.
A MONTH LATER WE OPENED.
WE REALIZED QUICKLY FROM DOING THIS AT PINELLAS HOPE FOR 20

YEARS, THAT OUR SUCCESS IS BUILT OFF OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS.
WHAT MAKES MR. MANCE AND I A PHENOMENAL PARTNER, WE COUNT ON
HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY TO FEED OUR CLIENTS.
IN THE FIRST 16 MONTHS, WE HAD OVER 600 FOLKS COME THROUGH
TAMPA HOPE.
AGAIN IT STARTED OUT AS MASS SHELTERING.
50 TENTS ON PLATFORMS.
THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE INCREASED TO 100 TENTS UP ON
PLATFORMS.
AND DURING PHASE TWO, WE THEN STARTED BRINGING IN OUR PALLET
SHELTERS.
WE STARTED OUT WITH A HUNDRED.
BROUGHT IN MEDICAL SERVICES.
WE HAVE USF STREET MEDICINE THAT COMES ON-SITE.
AND ALL OF OUR OTHER WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
CASE MANAGEMENT, HOUSING.
BUT, OF COURSE, WHEN YOUR POPULATION IS GROWING TO 200, 300
FOLKS EVERY SINGLE DAY, YOU COUNT ON YOUR PARTNERS TO FEED
THEM.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STANDING AT 116 TENTS.
215 COTTAGES.
WE ARE THE LARGEST COTTAGE FACILITY IN THE COUNTRY.
SOME TELL ME THAT WE ARE THE LARGEST SINGLE SITE SHELTER IN
THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THAT WE'RE RANKED FIFTH IN THE
COUNTRY FOR SINGLE SITE SERVICES.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE 345 BEDS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
SO WE DEPEND ON OUR PARTNERS.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA OUTREACH TEAM, CITY
OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL OUTREACH TEAM.
WE'RE OUT ON THE STREETS EVERY SINGLE DAY PROVIDING
SERVICES.
WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THOMAS.
9:39:19AM >> THANK YOU.
SO I THINK WHAT MAGGIE SAYS IS AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO START.
WE HAVE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE UNHOUSED,
TRANSITIONALLY HOUSED AND HAVE OTHER CHALLENGES.
THE QUESTION FOR US AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE TODAY IS TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO BEST TAKE CARE OF IMMEDIATE NEED OF SHELTER AND
BASIC CARE AND ALSO PROVIDE OTHER RESOURCES SO WE CAN MOVE
FOLKS THROUGH AND TO A BETTER OUTCOME.
WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT MAGGIE'S PROGRAM IS THAT IT IS HOUSING
FOLKS IN A THOUGHTFUL AND DIGNIFIED WAY.
ON CAMPUS SERVICES ARE OFFERING RESOURCES TO MOVE FOLKS
FORWARD.
WE'RE PROVIDING GOOD, HEALTHY MEALS TO MAKE SURE FOLKS CAN
MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY THOUGHTFULLY.
OUR PARTNERSHIP ALSO ALLOWS US TO CONNECT FOLKS THAT ARE IN
MAGGIE'S WORLD TO OUR WORLD, SO JOB TRAINING, OTHER
RESOURCES.

WE'RE -- PARTNERSHIP CREATES BOTH A SHORT TERM, HOW DO WE
TAKE CARE OF FOLKS, AND LONG-TERM CHALLENGE OR OPPORTUNITY.
THE SECOND PART THAT WE WOULD MENTION IS AS ONE OF THE
THINGS WE HAVE FOCUSED ON TOGETHER IS UNDERSTANDING THE DATA
OF WHO IS SEEING US, WHY THEY ARE SEEING US, HOW OFTEN THEY
ARE SEEING US, HOW LONG THEY ARE STAYING IN OUR CARE.
WE WANT TO LOOK AT AND UNDERSTAND THE POPULATION OF FOLKS
AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LONGER TERM OUTCOMES ARE.
I THINK YOU WOULD EXPECT OF US, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE ARE
GRATEFUL FOR THE RESOURCES YOU ALL PROVIDE TO OUR WORK,
WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING GOOD DATA COLLECTION AND
UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FOLKS NEED AND WHAT THEY WANT.
YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR WORK, WE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH WITH USF
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH, WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THEIR WORLD.
WHAT WE DO COLLECTIVELY IS BUILD PARTNERSHIP RESOURCES
AROUND THOSE.
EITHER WE OFFER THEM OURSELVES OR WE USE A VARIETY OF OTHER
PARTNERS.
WE HAVE SOME 25 OTHER PARTNERS IN OUR NETWORK AND MAGGIE HAS
JUST AS MANY TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED.
9:41:01AM >> THINK BACK WHEN WE OPENED BACK IN 2021, IT WAS TENTS,
PLATFORMS, WE HAD OUR DISASTER SHOWER TRUCKS, LAUNDRY
TRUCKS.
WE HAD ONE BUILDING.

THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY WAS A BLANK SLATE AND THEN
EXPANDING TO THE TENTS, EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF THOSE,
OPENING UP 215 COTTAGES THAT HAVE AC, HEAT, ELECTRIC.
WE ALSO BUILT WITH A DONATION OF ONE PARTNER, $1.5 MILLION
COMMUNITY CENTER THAT HAS A FULL COOKING KITCHEN, DINING
AREA, RESTROOMS, LAUNDRY, BARBERSHOP, CLOTHING CLOSET,
VENDING MACHINE ROOM AS WELL AS A CLASSROOM.
BUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED NEXT IS WE WILL BE ADDING ADDITIONAL
70 COTTAGES.
HOPE OUR BED COUNT GOES UP TO 488 WHEN WE ARE MAXED OUT, AS
WELL AS BRINGING IN THREE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS.
WELCOME CENTER WHERE VOLUNTEERS WILL GO THROUGH AS WELL AS
OUR INTAKE PROCESS WILL MOVE OVER TO THAT ROOM.
ADDING ANOTHER BUILDING FOR OFFICES AS WELL AS CLASSROOMS
AND THEN ON-SITE MEDICAL CLINIC SO THAT OUR CLIENTS WILL BE
ABLE TO SEE DOCTORS THERE ON-SITE.
ALSO, BECAUSE WE HAVE ON-MED, IT IS THE DOC IN THE BOX.
WHILE IT DOES PROVIDE A VERY NEEDED SERVICE, WE'VE REDUCED
911 CALLS BY 50%.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO KEEP OUR CLIENTS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AS
MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
CLIENTS DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS MEDICAL CARE AND SEE A
DOCTOR.
HAVING THE MEDICAL CLINIC ON-SITE, THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS, WHEN WE STARTED OUT IN 2021, WE PURCHASED THAT
PROPERTY, CATHOLIC CHARITIES DID FOR $2.1 MILLION.
WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE, WE WERE ABLE TO FACILITATE THE
OPERATIONS.
OUR CURRENT YEAR, JUST AROUND $3 MILLION FOR OPERATIONS.
I EXPECT THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE BECAUSE, OF
COURSE, OUR NUMBERS ARE CONTINUING TO INCREASE THOSE THAT WE
SERVE.
WE SERVE OVER 2600 FOLKS SINCE WE HAVE OPENED UP.
OVER 800 HAVE MOVED TO HOUSING.
THAT'S NEARLY 40%.
IT FLUCTUATES BETWEEN 36 AND 43%.
WE ARE ABOVE NATIONAL STANDARDS.
IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT AN AVERAGE PER NIGHT, IT USUALLY
FLUCTUATES BETWEEN 25 AND 28 DOLLARS PER NIGHT.
KEEP IN MIND THAT IS INCLUDING ALL OF OUR WRAPAROUND
SERVICES AS WELL AS OUR IN-KIND.
SO THAT'S COUNTING THE DONATION THAT WE COUNT FROM HIM FOR
FOOD.
IT'S ALSO THE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING, SUBSTANCE ABUSE
COUNSELING, CASE MANAGEMENT, ALL OF THE MEDICAL SERVICES,
ALL OF THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE
THERE.
REALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, YOU

CAN'T PUT A HOMELESS PERSON IN THE HOTEL WITH ALL THE
WRAPAROUND SERVICES FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
9:43:45AM >> I WOULD FINISH BY SAYING I THINK WHAT WE FEEL STRONGLY
ABOUT, WHICH MAGGIE HAS SAID, WHAT WE NEED ARE POSITIVE
SOLUTIONS AND THOUGHTFUL APPROACHES.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE YOU'RE
MAKING AN INVESTMENT.
YOU HAVE FUNDS YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU
GET THAT.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR IT.
WE ALSO CONSIDER OURSELVES THOUGHTFUL STEWARDS OF HOW WE
BUILD PROGRAMMING AND LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS AND RESOURCES FOR
THIS PARTICULAR GROUP OF FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE BOTH
VALUE AND ESTEEM VERY MUCH.
9:44:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
9:44:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS NOTHING SHORT OF A
MIRACLE.
AS YOU STARTED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED THAT
YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO SEE
WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I KNOW I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THAT, AND YOU SHOULD BE AS

WELL.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH, BECAUSE I DID SEE AN ARTICLE
RECENTLY THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BUILD OUR COTTAGES SHUT DOWN.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PLACE THAT WE CAN GET THEM?
9:44:54AM >> IT WILL NOT BE THE EXACT SAME PRODUCT.
INTERVIEWED ABOUT FIVE OTHER COMPANIES.
THERE'S ONE THAT I'M LEANING TOWARDS.
THEY ARE OUT OF CALIFORNIA.
SO I'LL BE LOOKING INTO -- THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE.
VERY SIMILAR.
SAME SIZE.
WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT PALLET IS THE PRODUCT YOU ARE ABLE TO
OPEN THE DOORS, POWER WASH IT, AND START ALL OVER.
JUST LEAVE THE WINDOWS AND DOORS OPEN.
MOLD RESISTANT.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE
SAME.
WE THINK WE FOUND SOMETHING.
9:45:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
THE PARTNERSHIP WITH FEEDING TAMPA BAY ALSO CRITICAL.
WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE MONEY TO YOU ALL IN THE
LAST BUDGET.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
JUST AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUTH, THE

IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE OUR COMMUNITY HAS PEOPLE WHO ARE
HOUSED AND RECEIVE THE SERVICES THEY NEED IS SO IMPORTANT.
THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE OVER 800 PEOPLE IS
JUST ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL.
I'M GOING TO PUT THIS OUT INTO THE WORLD, BECAUSE THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT I TALK ABOUT CONSTANTLY.
WE REALLY NEED TO GET OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP
A HILLSBOROUGH HOPE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE BEING OVERLOADED WITH NOT JUST
PEOPLE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, I MEAN, ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS
ARE DOING IT.
PINELLAS HAS IT.
PASCO IS STARTING THEIRS.
I HEARD CITRUS IS STARTING THEIRS.
I'M REALLY PUTTING IT OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE THAT
HILLSBOROUGH SHOULD BE OUR NEXT STOP.
BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
YOU'RE JUST AMAZING.
9:46:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF WE CAN KEEP OUR COMMENTS BRIEF BECAUSE
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC
COMMENT.
MIRANDA FOLLOWED BY MANISCALCO.
9:46:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ALL
THE CITIZENS.
BACK IN THE DAYS WHEN YOU STARTED, IT WAS JOHN BENNETT FROM

THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WORKED WITH TAMPA CATHOLIC
CHARITIES.
THEN THEY STARTED BUILDING AND LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE, AN AREA
THERE -- IS THAT THE BELL ALREADY?
9:46:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BELL ON THE PRESENTATION TOTALLY.
9:46:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THOUGHT I WAS AT THE BALLET AGAIN.
I GOT IT.
I GOT THE HAMMER.
ANYWAY, FEEDING TAMPA BAY, HOW MANY DO YOU FEED EVERY DAY?
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS SAID ENOUGH?
9:47:03AM >> WE PROVIDE AT THE SHELTER, FEEDING EVERYBODY, ABOUT
$300,000 A YEAR, $4.58 A MEAL.
IF YOUR POPULATION IS --
9:47:12AM >> PRETTY CLOSE TO AROUND 300.
9:47:14AM >> WE'RE PROVIDING USUALLY ONE TO TWO MEALS A DAY DEPENDING
ON WHAT THEY NEED.
9:47:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY NO ONE IN THIS
CHAMBERS UNDERSTANDS, INCLUDING US, WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU SINCERELY FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
9:47:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:47:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WAS AT YOUR EVENT A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE ALL OUT
THERE.
AND YOU WERE SHOWCASING WHAT YOU DO.
IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE'S LIVES YOU AFFECT.

YOU'RE TAKING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND AT LEAST
TEMPORARILY GIVING THEM SHELTER THEY NEED AS THEY TRANSITION
TO MORE PERMANENT HOUSING AND, OF COURSE, FEEDING TAMPA BAY,
AN AMAZING COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT HELPS ON A DAILY BASIS.
I KNOW MY PERSONAL HERO, JOHN BENNETT WITH HIS EXPERIENCE
FROM I BELIEVE PINELLAS HOPE.
WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT PARTNERS AND PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS.
EVERYBODY SHOULD GO OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT IS BEING DONE.
BECAUSE WHEN I SAW IT, I WAS AMAZED.
WE MET RESIDENTS THERE.
WE SAW FIRSTHAND, PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT YOU'RE TOUCHING AND
LIFTING UP.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:48:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED CHIEF JOHN BENNETT.
THIS IS A WORK THAT'S RIGHT AFTER HIS HEART AND THAT HE HAS
DONE SO MUCH ON AND HE SHOWS THAT BEING A COP WHO IS A
PROTECTOR ISN'T JUST ABOUT FIGHTING CRIME.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT PREVENTING CRIME.
OUR HAT IS OFF, I MENTIONED FATHER FLANAGAN, THE GREAT
BLEEDING HEART CATHOLIC.
MAGGIE AND TOM, YOU ALL DO GREAT WORK.
YOU CAN PUT YOUR FAITH IN ACTION THROUGH THIS.
YOU READ YOUR BIBLE.

JESUS DIDN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT VOLVOS -- HE TALKED ABOUT
COMMUNITIES AND GIVING PEOPLE VOICE.
CATHOLIC CHARITIES, I DON'T KNOW IF STILL THE SLOGAN, USED
TO BE WE HELP PEOPLE, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CATHOLIC BUT
BECAUSE WE'RE CATHOLIC.
9:49:07AM >> WE STILL SAY THAT.
9:49:08AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD.
FROM MY CHILDHOOD.
YOU ARE AWESOME.
TOM, NO SPRINGSTEEN QUOTES THIS TIME.
THANK YOU.
9:49:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
9:49:16AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT BOTH
FACILITIES.
I TOURED FEEDING TAMPA BAY AND ALSO BEEN TO A FEW EVENTS
THAT WE HAD AT TAMPA HOPE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IN THE
COMMUNITY.
EXCITED TO SEE THE NEW THINGS HAPPENING WITH FEEDING TAMPA
BAY AND PROVIDING THAT WRAPAROUND SERVICE TO EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.
9:49:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME.
I'LL SAY THANK YOU.
9:49:42AM >> THANK YOU.
9:49:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT THREE HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT --
[INAUDIBLE] --
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
DO YOU WANT TO CONSIDER REDUCING IT TO TWO MINUTES?
ANYBODY?
9:50:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WOULD LOOK AT SOME SORT OF A MODIFIED
COMPROMISE ON THAT.
IF YOU ARE OUT THERE PROPOSING AND STICKING YOURSELF OUT
THERE, I'LL BACK YOU ON IT.
9:50:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE.
I'LL SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO EVERYBODY.
IF THERE'S NO APPETITE FOR IT, JUST SAY NO APPETITE FOR IT.
9:50:29AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT'S WORKED BEFORE WHEN YOU
SUGGESTED TO PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T NEED THE WHOLE THREE
MINUTES.
9:50:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL DO THAT.
9:50:35AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S GOOD FOR ME.
9:50:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M NOT HEARING A MARKET FOR THIS, SO
WE'LL KEEP GOING.
HERE WE GO.
PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE RULES.
THERE IS A QR CODE POSTED OUTSIDE.
WE HAVE HARD COPIES IF YOU NEED IT FOR THE RULES.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW THOSE, PLEASE REVIEW THEM.
EVERY TIME YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, YOU START WITH YOUR NAME.
THAT'S FOR OUR PUBLIC RECORD.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
THE MICROPHONE IS AT THE PODIUM.
YOU FACE AND YOU TALK TO US.
YOU DON'T TURN AROUND.
YOU TALK TO US THE WHOLE TIME, 100% OF THE TIME.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND FACE FORWARD.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY, REMEMBER THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO
REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.
IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TAKE TEN SECONDS AND STATE YOUR
POSITION, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
DON'T FEEL LIKE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT AND
THREE MINUTES THAT YOU HAVE TO USE ALL THREE MINUTES.
WE HEAR YOU.
WE'RE HEARING EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'RE UP HERE LISTENING.
WE CAN JUST REGISTER YOUR POINTS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE,
AND THIS IS NOT TO MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T USE YOUR THREE
MINUTES IF YOU CHOOSE TO, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING
EVERYBODY IN AND HAVING ALL THE VOICES HEARD, PLEASE
CONSIDER THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL THREE MINUTES.
WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW
PEOPLE HERE.

THERE ARE LIGHTS.
IT WILL TURN GREEN WHEN YOU SAY YOUR NAME.
THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A THREE-MINUTE TIMER ON.
WHEN IT TURNS YELLOW, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.
WHEN IT TURNS RED, EVEN MID SYLLABLE, STOP WHERE YOU ARE AT.
ONCE YOU ARE FINISHED, PLEASE LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN, ON THE SECOND FLOOR WE
HAVE OVERFLOW.
MOST EVERYBODY IS DOWN THERE NOW WAITING FOR A SEAT UP HERE.
OR YOU CAN GO HOME AND WATCH US ON YouTube.
PLEASE LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS SO WE CAN GET EVERYBODY ELSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY IS ON THIS LIST.
I'LL CALL ABOUT FIVE NAMES AT A TIME.
IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS LISTENING, HOPEFULLY NOT SO LOUD THAT
YOU ARE HEARING WHAT I'M SAYING, IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME,
PLEASE IMMEDIATELY COME UP TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS BECAUSE YOU
HAVE TO CLEAR SECURITY TO GET IN.
I'LL CALL ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE AT A TIME IN CASE PEOPLE ARE
DOWNSTAIRS AND ARE LISTENING AND WANT TO COME UPSTAIRS.
THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. SHELBY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
9:52:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY I WAS LATE.
I WAS OUTSIDE.
DID YOU ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THIS IS ONLY FOR ON-AGENDA
NUMBERED ITEMS?

9:53:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO ON-AGENDA ITEMS, YOU SHOULD HAVE
FILLED OUT ONE OF THESE FORMS, ONE OF THESE CARDS.
IF YOU DIDN'T FILL OUT A CARD, IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND
FLOOR OR HERE IN THE COUNCIL AND DIDN'T FILL OUT A CARD,
PLEASE SEE ONE OF THE STAFF OUT IN THE LOBBY.
THEY'LL ASSIST YOU IN FILLING IT OUT.
THIS IS FOR ON-AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ON-AGENDA ITEMS ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER WE DO THE FIRST PARTS OF
BUSINESS IN THE MORNING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR OFF-AGENDA ITEMS
FOR 30 MINUTES AND 30 MINUTES ONLY.
THE FIRST FIVE FOLKS ARE LINDA MISNER, CHLOE DIAZ, TOM
MULROONEY, SHAWN ROUTTEN.
NATALIE ROUGIE.
IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, IF YOU WOULD STAND OVER THERE AGAINST
THE WALL AND LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL, I WILL CALL YOU UP
ONE AT A TIME.
HELLO, LINDA.
COME ON UP.
SAY YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:54:07AM >> LINDA MISNER.
I AM BODY BY DESIGN.

OUR FAMILY-OWNED SMALL BUSINESS ON WEST DEKLE IS FEET FROM
SOUTH HOWARD AND WILL BE SEVERELY IMPACTED FOR YEARS BY THE
SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD PROJECT.
CITY STAFF WILL NOT MEET WITH US AND CANNOT TELL US HOW TO
ACCESS OUR BUSINESS DURING THE PROJECT.
THEY HAVE NO ANSWER FOR HOW OUR CLIENTS OR EMPLOYEES WILL
REACH THE BUSINESS OR WHERE EVERYONE WILL PARK WHEN THEY
CAN'T REACH OUR OWN PARKING.
WHEN I ASKED MR. CAMPBELL THESE QUESTIONS, HE POINTED TO A
MARKETING CAMPAIGN POSTER THAT WASN'T EVEN REMOTELY HELPFUL.
THE CITY HAS NOT STUDIED THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO BUSINESSES
BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO ADMIT THE IMPACT WILL BE
DISASTROUS.
BOTH THE CITY AND KIMMINS STAFF REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS WHAT HAPPENS IF THE 100 YEAR BUNGALOW IS DAMAGED
BY THE VIBRATIONS OF DIGGING MASSIVE TRENCHES NEARBY.
THEY HAVE SAID WE WILL NEED TO GET AN INSPECTION BEFORE THE
PROJECT AND ANOTHER AFTER THE PROJECT AT OUR OWN EXPENSE TO
PROVE THAT WE HAVE DAMAGE.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
IT WAS RECENTLY SUGGESTED TO ME THAT MAYBE WE COULD PAUSE
OUR BUSINESS FOR A FEW MONTHS WHILE WE CAN'T REACH OUR OWN
BUILDING, AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
WE ARE A BUSINESS.
IT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD.

IT IS OUR EMPLOYEES' LIVELIHOOD, IT IS NOT A HOBBY.
WE DESERVE BETTER.
I AM ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF THE CSX
PERMITTING AND HOW THE NEW RESTRICTIONS CHANGE THE PROJECT.
THE CITY'S OWN MEMO, WHICH I JUST PROVIDED, STATES THE
CURRENT BOX HAS ROOT INTRUSION AND FAILING MORTAR AT THE
JOINTS.
INSTEAD OF A NEW TEN BY TEN CULVERT, THE CSX CROSSING WILL
UTILIZE THE FAILING FIVE BY TEN BOX AND A NEW 60-INCH PIPE.
HOW WILL THAT WORK WITH EXTENSIVE LENGTH OF TEN BY TEN
CULVERT DIVIDING AND PUSHING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF STORMWATER
INTO SIGNIFICANTLY LESS SPACE?
CREATING A BOTTLENECK AT THE TRACKS.
WHERE IS THE CERTIFIED MODEL SHOWING THIS CHANGE WILL
ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE PROJECTED FLOOD RELIEF AND NOT JUST A
NEW FAIL POINT?
I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY WAS SO LATE IN APPLYING FOR
THE CSX PERMIT LAST FRIDAY THAT THEY WASTED MORE MONEY TO
EXPEDITE IT.
THEY SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT PERMIT IN HAND.
NO ONE LIVING OR WORKING IN HISTORIC HYDE PARK WANTS THIS
PROJECT.
WE ARE AGAINST THE LONG-TERM DESTRUCTION, DETOURS, BUILDING
DAMAGE, BUSINESS LOSS, AND THE POSSIBLE CREATION OF NEW
FLOODING ISSUES FOR OUR AREA.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE DEVASTATION THAT FLOODING CAUSES SINCE
OUR HOME ON DAVIS ISLAND FLOODED WITH HELENE, AND IT WOULD
BE GREAT TO PROVIDE FLOOD RELIEF TO BOTH PARKLAND ESTATES
AND PALMA CEIA PINES, BUT NOT WITH A BIG PRICE TAG AND NOT
WITH THIS KIND OF INCONVENIENCE.
WE CANNOT FIX YEARS OF DELAYED STORMWATER MAINTENANCE WITH
OVERBUILDING AND INADEQUATE PLANNING BY THROWING A
RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
PLEASE STOP.
THANK YOU.
9:57:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHLOE DIAZ, FOLLOWED BY TOM, SHAWN,
NATALIE ROUGIE AND JOHN LISTER.
9:57:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS CHLOE DIAZ.
I'M A TAMPANIAN.
MOVED ALMOST A YEAR AGO TODAY FROM LOS ANGELES FOR BETTER
LIFE AND WORK OPPORTUNITY AND LANDED AT THE RESTAURANT ON
717 SOUTH HOWARD.
THE ROAD CLOSURE WOULD GREATLY AFFECT MINE AND LIVELIHOOD OF
OTHERS WHO HAVE GROWN AND KNOWN TO CALL FRIENDS.
GREATLY BENEFIT MINE AND LIVES OF OTHERS THAT THE CITY COME
UP WITH A BETTER PLAN SO WE DO NOT HAVE OUR STREET CLOSED
DOWN IN THE INEVITABLE FUTURE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THE MATTER.
9:57:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR THE BREVITY.

TOM MULROONEY FOLLOWED BY SHAWN.
9:58:02AM >> TOM MULROONEY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M A SOUTH TAMPA OWNER AND SOUTH TAMPA OFFICE OWNER FOR 16
YEARS.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY SMALL BUSINESS IMPLICATIONS PERSONALLY AND
WILL NOT BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OTHER THAN TRAFFIC
INCONVENIENCE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SLOWDOWNS THAT THE
PROJECT WOULD CAUSE.
I SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M RELATIVELY IMPARTIAL.
I AM ONLY HERE TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE WHOLE SOUTH
TAMPA COMMUNITY, WHICH I AM SIGNIFICANTLY INVESTED IN.
DEAL WITH RISK REWARD AND COST BENEFIT ON A DAILY BASIS IN
MY CAREER AND TRYING TO VIEW THE PROJECT THROUGH THAT LENS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR FOCUS TO THIS ATTENTION.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
UPON MY REVIEW OF THIS, THERE IS NO WAY THIS PROJECT CAN
MOVE FORWARD.
THE COSTS BOTH IN CITY FUNDS AND EVENTUAL LOSS TO SMALL
BUSINESSES AND TAX REVENUES THAT THEY PROVIDE DOES NOT MEET
A COST BENEFIT THRESHOLD AS THE COLD LENS OF FREE MARKET.
SOUTH HOWARD COMMUNITY WOULD BE BEARING AN UNFAIR BURDEN TO
THE BENEFIT OF A FEW.
I SYMPATHIZE.
I GENUINELY SYMPATHIZE WITH THE FLOODING CONCERNS OF THE

COMMUNITY.
IMPACT INTO A MARKET THAT CAME WITH RISK.
THE RISK WAS BUILT INTO THE MARKET PRICE OF THOSE
STRUCTURES.
OTHERS, INCLUDING SOUTH HOWARD STRUCTURES AND BUSINESS
OWNERS INVESTED IN PROPERTIES WITHOUT FLOODING ISSUES AND
HENCE PAID A PREMIUM FOR IT.
THIS PROJECT SHIFTS A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD RISK THAT THEY
WILLINGLY ENTERED INTO ON TO THAT OF AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THAT IS NOT HOW THE FREE MARKET WORKS UNLESS ALL OTHER
PROJECTS HAVE BEEN FULLY ASSESSED.
I AM HERE TO PLEAD TO PAUSE THE DECISION UNTIL ALL OTHER
OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED HAVE BEEN COMPLETED VETTED.
IF AFTER THAT, IF NO OTHER OPTION IS AVAILABLE, WE LOOK AT
THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED, BECAUSE IF IT DOES, OUR SOUTH TAMPA
COMMUNITY WILL GO BACKWARDS SIGNIFICANTLY BEFORE IT GOES
FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:00:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, TOM.
SHAWN, FOLLOWED BY NATALIE.
AFTER THIS GROUP OF FOLKS, I DIDN'T SEE MARK ABDONEY.
MARK, IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS, COME UP TO CITY COUNCIL.
ANTHONY -- I'LL DESTROY THE LAST NAME -- CHICKLOWSKI.
10:00:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SHAWN ROUTTEN.

I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE EPICUREAN.
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SOHO ALLIANCE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A FLOODING ISSUE IN
PARKLAND AND IN A NUMBER OF AREAS.
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
WE AGREE WITH THAT.
WHAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH IS GOING DOWN STRAIGHT THROUGH
FAMILY BUSINESSES IN THE HEART ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OF OUR
AREA WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER PLAUSIBLE SOLUTION.
THIS WHOLE THING IS, QUITE FRANKLY, A LITTLE BIT
DISHEARTENING.
I FEEL LIKE THE CITY TRANSPARENCY IS LACKING.
WE JUST NOW ARE FIGHTING AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS.
LIKE, IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS WAY.
I SPOKE WITH A YOUNG LADY, VERY NICE LADY FROM PARKLAND IN
THIS BUILDING THIS MORNING, AND SHE SAYS, NEVER VISIT YOUR
PLACE AGAIN.
I USED TO SEND WEDDING GROUPS AND I WILL NOT SEND THOSE
PEOPLE TO YOU.
OUR REVENUE LOSS IS ALREADY HAPPENING AND WE HAVEN'T STARTED
THE PROJECT.
IT'S COMING FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.
THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH, LIVE WITH.
I GOT FRIENDS IN PARKLAND.
YOU DON'T REALIZE, KIMMINS UNDERSTANDING, WE WILL HELP GUIDE

THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE MOBILITY DIRECTOR WILL HELP YOU GUIDE THROUGH THIS.
WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WE'RE LOSING MONEY NOW.
BRIDE CALLED LAST WEEK LOOKING FOR A FUTURE DATE.
I COULD NOT GUARANTEE HER THAT THAT DATE, BECAUSE I'M UNSURE
OF THE PROJECT.
SO I'VE LOST THAT BUSINESS.
I HAVE A $2.2 MILLION AIRLINE CONTRACT BUSINESS A YEAR THAT
STATES THEY CANNOT HAVE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN HALF A MILE
WHERE THEY STAY.
THEY NEED SAFE SLEEP.
WHAT HAPPENS, MY EMPLOYEE GOES AWAY.
I'M NOW LOSING WEDDINGS AND LOSING THAT CONTRACT.
I HAVE 11 PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS SPEND OVER A MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR FOR US.
EVERY YEAR SINCE WE'VE OPENED, NONE OF THEM WILL SUPPORT US
AGAIN.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO COME INTO A WAR ZONE IN GAZA AND LOOK
AT THIS AND REALIZE THEY CAN STAY HERE OR STAY DOWNTOWN
CLOSER TO THE ARENA AND NOT HAVE TO FIGHT THIS.
ALL THIS TALK HAS BEEN ABOUT SAVING PARKLAND.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LAID OFF.
ESTIMATED 1200.
NO ONE DID AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.
IT WAS A VERY BIG NUMBER.

HONESTLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, IF I REMOVE MYSELF FROM THE
SITUATION AS A DECISION MAKER AND MANAGER IN ROLES I PLAYED,
HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO SUPPORT AND AFFECT PARKLAND AND
HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO DAMAGE AND CAUSE REVENUE LOSS FOR
THE CITY AND BUSINESSES.
THE COST ANALYSIS TO BENEFIT IS CLEARLY NOT FAIR.
SO WE HOPE THAT WE'VE PROPOSED A SOLUTION THAT ALLOWS
QUICKER RESOLUTION FOR PARKLAND.
THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING.
FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE GET THERE, AND WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO
EXCEED A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
CHANGE ORDERS, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED EXPEDITING --
10:03:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SHAWN.
NATALIE, FOLLOWED BY JOHN.
10:03:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DR. NATALIE ROUGIE.
MY PRACTICE IS LOCATED WITHIN ONE OF THE CENTURY OLD
BUNGALOWS OF SOUTH HOWARD LOCATED DEKLE.
15 FEET WHERE THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION WILL OCCUR.
ASKING TO YOU VOTE NO TO PAUSE THE CURRENT FLOOD RELIEF PLAN
DOWN HOWARD AND IMPLORE THE CITY TO FIND A FASTER MORE
ECONOMICALLY SOUND SOLUTION THAT HELPS MORE PEOPLE FIX THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES LIKE THE CLEVELAND STREET BASIN AND
FULLY MAINTAIN OUR STORM DRAINS.
I COME TO YOU TODAY AS ONE OF ROUGHLY A HUNDRED BUSINESSES

DOWN HOWARD.
SOME OF WHICH ARE WOMEN OWNED SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT
HOBBIES BUT REAL BUSINESSES THAT PROVIDE HELP FOR REAL
FAMILIES.
IN MY CASE, CARING FOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE
FIGHTING CANCER, HAVING PREGNANCY ISSUES, DEALING WITH
COMPLEX HEALTH ISSUES AND MANAGING CHRONIC PAIN WITH AN
ALTERNATIVE TO OPIOIDS.
HERE ARE REASONS I'M ASKING TO YOU VOTE NO AND LOOK AT
ALTERNATIVES.
POTENTIAL DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTY.
BUILDING OWNERS LIKE MYSELF WILL HAVE TO GO OUT-OF-POCKET TO
HIRE ENGINEERS TO DOCUMENT BEFORE AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION
CONDITIONS, TO BE ABLE TO CLAIM ANY DAMAGE REPAIRS, BUSINESS
CLOSURE.
60 PERCENT OF BUSINESSES FAIL WHEN A LONG-TERM PROJECT TIES
UP THE ENTIRE STREET.
I SPOKE TO FIVE BUSINESS OWNERS FROM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
ALL TOLD STORIES OF LOST REVENUE, ONE WITH 150,000 WHILE
SOME CLOSED.
LONGER CONSTRUCTION TIMES THAN ORIGINALLY PLANNED AND BOTH
THE CITY AND CONTRACTOR DID NOT WORK WELL WITH THE BUSINESS
OWNERS.
CURRENTLY, ON MANHATTAN, SMALL BUSINESSES HAD TO CLOSE FROM
THAT CONSTRUCTION FLOODING PROJECT.

ONE OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES WAS IN OPERATION FOR 26 YEARS.
THIS IS CONCERNING.
THE MARKETING CONCEPT THE CITY SPEAKS OF WON'T WORK FOR
BUSINESSES LIKE MINE.
I'M A REFERRAL-BASED BUSINESS.
NOR WILL IT HELP IF CUSTOMERS CAN'T ACCESS THE BUSINESS.
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF A NEBULOUS GOLF CART PLAN IS LAUGHABLE.
WHAT ABOUT WHEN IT RAINS?
WHERE WILL CARS BE PARKED AND HOW EFFICIENT IS THAT FOR
BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE ON SCHEDULED TIMES?
DOCUMENTED ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, POTENTIAL WATER
CONTAMINATION DURING CONSTRUCTION, STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH
CURRENT CULVERTS UNDER THE RAILROAD MADE BY THE CITY'S OWN
ENGINEERS COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT THE TRACKS LIFTED AND
CULVERTS WON'T BE REPLACED TO THE TEN BY TEN SIZE.
NO ECONOMIC IMPACT OR STRUCTURAL STUDIES ON HOWARD.
MAYOR AND STAFF HAVE DONE NOTHING PRODUCTIVE BUT TO PIT
RESIDENTS WHO WANT THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AGAINST
BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING THEIR
LIVELIHOOD.
TO HELP MANY WILL BE AFFECTING A FEW IS PLAINLY DESPICABLE
AND WILDLY UNTRUE.
THERE ARE ROUGHLY A HUNDRED BUSINESSES ON HOWARD THAT WILL
BE AFFECTED AND THAT'S NOT A FEW.
PLEASE VOTE NO AND DEMAND A BETTER PLAN TO HELP RESIDENTS

BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU.
10:06:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
JOHN LISTER, FOLLOWED BY MARK ABDONEY.
IF YOU WANT TO LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
DAVID --
10:06:36AM >> JOHN LISTER.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE CHEF OF A AVA ON SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS SHORT.
I'M A TAMPA NATIVE.
I'M A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPA NATIVE.
I WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS TOWN, BUT THIS IS NOT IT.
LIKE THEY HAVE ALL SAID, THERE ARE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THAT
WILL FAIL.
WE WILL FAIL.
WE WON'T SURVIVE THIS.
THIS IS TOO DIFFICULT.
THANK YOU.
10:06:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR YOUR BREVITY.
DR. ABDONEY.
ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
10:07:09AM >> CHAIR CLENDENIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER FOR US
TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE OF IMPORTANCE.

THIS PROJECT -- I'M SORRY.
DR. MARK ABDONEY.
2714 WEST AZEELE STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33609.
MY SURGICAL FACILITY HAS FLOODED TWICE IN NINE YEARS.
FIRST IN 2015, SECOND TIME DURING MILTEN IN 2024.
THIS PROJECT, IF IT DOES NOT GO THROUGH, IS GOING TO LEAVE
THE CITY WITH A POTENTIAL HEALTH CRISIS OF EPIC PROPORTIONS
SHOULD DURING A HURRICANE OR SOME OTHER FLOOD EVENT HCA
HOSPITAL SHUT DOWN, NOT TO MENTION AMBULANCE ACCESS TO THE
HOSPITAL DURING FLOODS.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD FOUR FLOODS THIS YEAR JUST I THINK IN THE
MONTH OF AUGUST.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS DEFINITIVELY.
THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.
I WORRY THAT WE HAVE OUR PRIORITIES MIXED UP HERE.
WE'VE TAKEN WELL OVER TEN YEARS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO
WITH THIS ISSUE.
WE'VE WRESTLED OVER IT.
WE'VE STUDIED IT.
AND WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT, YET WHEN IT COMES TO THE
RAYS' BASEBALL STADIUM, WE GOT THAT DEAL DONE IN LESS THAN
NINE MONTHS.
LOOK, I LOVE SPORTS.
I'M ABOUT AS PROBUSINESS AS IT GETS.
I LOVE BERN'S.

MY DAD HAS TAKEN US TO BERN'S SO MANY TIMES.
HE'S DIED IN BERN'S THREE TIMES.
AND HE'S 95.
[ LAUGHTER ]
IT'S TRUE.
ANYWAYS, MIRACULOUS RECOVERY.
BOTTOM LINE IS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHUT DOWN.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHUT DOWN.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPEN.
WE'VE SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY TWICE.
I DID IT TWICE FOR A MONTH.
I PAID MY EMPLOYEES THE WHOLE TIME.
IF THESE RESTAURANTS, AS GREAT AS THEY ARE -- AND THEY ARE
-- DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS LIKE BRIDGE FUNDING OR LINES
OF CREDIT, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT THANK
YOU.
10:09:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
ANTHONY -- I WON'T TRY THE LAST NAME.
DAVID LAXER, ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
ANTHONY FIRST, THEN DAVID.
THE NEXT ONE IS BETH SLIMLY.
10:10:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING.
ANTHONY CHICKLOWSKI.
I'M REPRESENTING CRG GROUP AND LOCAL BRANDS.

I'LL BE SHORT AND SWEET MYSELF TODAY.
WE HAVE 600 EMPLOYEES.
WE'VE BEEN ON THAT STREET FOR 30 YEARS, OUR RESTAURANT
BUSINESS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART TO ME IS THAT I HAVE AN EVENT CALLED
NOODLES AND NETWORK THAT I'VE RAISED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS FOR PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO PEDIATRIC CANCER ON A NATIONAL
LEVEL, CRG GROUP AND LOCAL BRANDS, TO HELP PEOPLE, FIRE
DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE THIS AND THESE EMPLOYEES ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
BUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE COMMUNITY TO RAISE
AWARENESS, RAISE MONEY TO HELP LESS FORTUNATE PEOPLE.
AND WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY HELPING PEOPLE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS OUT THERE, RIGHT?
BUT WE'RE DOING COMMUNITY WORK.
I DO COMMUNITY WORK.
LOOK ME UP.
LOOK WHAT I DO FOR CRG AND LOCAL BRANDS.
I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
AND THIS CANNOT HAPPEN.
WE HAVE TOO MANY EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE TOO MUCH TO LOSE.
MOST OF ALL, FOR ME PERSONALLY, WE'VE BEEN ON THAT STREET 30
YEARS DOING BUSINESS.

I'M HERE FOR JIMMY LANZA, THE FAMILY AND ALL OF OUR
EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME.
IT REALLY IS.
PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS SO WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE, GROW OUR
BUSINESSES AND HELP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING TODAY, REMEMBER WHO I AM AND THAT I
AM A COMMUNITY GUY, AND I DO IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
IF THIS STOPS, I'M NOT ABLE TO DO MY EVENTS.
THAT'S ALL I WANT TO DO IS HELP PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE LEARNED.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:11:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ANTHONY.
DAVID, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH, BETH, AND THEN GIOVANNI AND
BILL KOLEGA.
10:12:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DAVID LAXER.
I AND MY WIFE CHRISTINA ARE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH TAMPA AND
BUSINESS OWNERS OF BERN'S STEAK HOUSE, BERN'S FINE WINE AND
SPIRITS.
WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT STORMWATER MITIGATION ISSUES NEED TO
BE ADDRESSED.
THE DEBATE IS HOW TO DO THIS WHILE ACHIEVING DESIRED RESULTS
WITH AS LITTLE NEGATIVE IMPACT OR DAMAGE.

HOWEVER, A PLAN THAT POTENTIALLY FIXES ONE PROBLEM BUT
CAUSES EXTENDED HARDSHIP ON OTHER MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY,
DEFUNDS EXISTING STORMWATER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND
DRAINS OUR STORMWATER BUDGET SO NO OTHER PROJECT CAN HAPPEN
FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN DO BETTER, BUT THIS REQUIRES THINKING
OUTSIDE THE BOX AND, YES, ACTUALLY HAVING HONEST AND
TRANSPARENT DISCUSSIONS.
AS YOU ALL ARE WELL AWARE, THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THIS PROJECT IS SO
POLARIZING.
WE AS A BUSINESS EMPLOY CLOSE TO 300 PEOPLE, MANY OF WHICH
HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR OVER 20, 30, 40 YEARS.
WE ARE A FAMILY BUSINESS THAT PRIDES ITSELF ON PROVIDING A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND
THEIR FAMILIES.
THIS PROJECT IN ITS CURRENT FORM WILL IMPACT EVERY ONE OF
OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILIES, NOT TO MENTION THE MANY
VENDORS THAT RELY ON OUR BUSINESS AS WELL.
YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT 25% TO 50% DROP IN INCOME DEPENDING
ON IF YOU ARE TIPPED EMPLOYEE OR HOURLY EMPLOYEE.
THIS CAN BE SAID FOR EVERY OTHER BUSINESS ON HOWARD AVENUE.
AND THIS WOULD GO ON FOR THREE TO FOUR YEARS.
TO BE TOLD BY CITY STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS THAT EVERYTHING
WILL BE FINE, WE'LL HAVE ROBUST MARKETING PLAN, YOUR GUESTS

WILL STILL CONTINUE TO COME TO YOUR BUSINESS AND SHUTTLE
YOUR GUESTS FROM OFF-SITE REMOTE PARKING LOTS JUST
DEMONSTRATES HOW OUT OF TOUCH AND THE LACK OF AWARENESS OR
CARING THE CITY HAS.
NO ONE KNOWS THEIR BUSINESS LIKE A BUSINESS OWNER, AND TO
TELL THEM OTHERWISE IS DISRESPECTFUL.
ALSO, TO STATE THAT THE PLAN -- SORRY.
ALSO TO STATE THAT THE PAIN WILL END AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS
COMPLETE AND IS ALSO FALSE.
AS OUR CUSTOMERS DEVELOP NEW DINING PATTERNS AND GROUP
BUSINESS WILL SETTLE INTO OTHER RESTAURANTS, OTHER HOTELS
AND ALL THOSE YEARS OF GOODWILL WILL BE LOST.
TO SAY I'M DISHEARTENED BY ALL THIS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
WHAT I'M FEELING IS BETRAYED BY THE CITY AND BY THIS COUNCIL
IF THIS PASSES.
I AND MANY OTHERS ARE ASKING THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS
PROJECT.
HAVE THE CITY AND STAFF ENGINEERS CONSIDER OTHER ALTERNATIVE
ROUTES AND/OR SOLUTIONS THAT ARE LESS EXPENSIVE AND PROVIDES
RELIEF FOR PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES ON A MUCH
FASTER TIMELINE.
THANK YOU.
10:14:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT WE HAVE ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
BETH GIOVANNI, BILL, PATRICK CIMINO.

10:15:03AM >> ELIZABETH DINWIDDIE.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
WE CAN ALL WIN IF WE, THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA CHOOSE TO SUPPORT
THESE BUSINESSES WHILE THESE PIPES GO IN THE GROUND.
IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES.
IT'S THE CITY THAT HAS TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
IT'S YEARS, DECADES THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN STUDIED.
IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT ALL OF THE PROJECTS POINT TO
HOWARD.
WE WILL SUPPORT HOWARD.
WE LOVE HOWARD.
I LOVE THE MACADAMIA ICE CREAM AT BERN'S.
IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT YOU MUST TRY IT.
IT'S INCREDIBLE.
I WILL ALWAYS THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT ORDER MY PIZZA FROM
SALLY O'NEILL'S.
OKAY.
WE HAVE TO CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR US ALL THESE YEARS.
THEY HAVE BEEN OUR HAPPY PLACES.
WE LOVE THESE BUSINESSES.
THE PEOPLE OF PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES LOVE THE
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN OUR HAPPY PLACES.
WE NEED FLOOD RELIEF.
WE TRUST THE ENGINEERS.

WE KNOW THAT WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS PROJECT, AND WE WILL
ALL WALK DOWN THOSE SIDEWALKS AND SAY WE GOT THROUGH THIS
TOGETHER AS A CITY.
WE ALL LOVE YOUR BUSINESSES.
PLEASE KNOW THAT WE WILL SUPPORT YOU THROUGHOUT THIS
PROJECT.
WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING BAD TO HAPPEN TO YOUR BUSINESSES.
PLEASE GIVE US PIPES SO THAT WE CAN GO TO BED FEELING SAFE
AT NIGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:17:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BETH, GIOVANNI, BILL, PATRICK, JULIE MAGILL.
10:17:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS BETH STEINLE.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND I LIVE IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
I'M HERE TODAY NOT ONLY AS AN ENGINEER BUT AS A RESIDENT WHO
PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING THIS PROJECT IS INTENDED
TO ADDRESS.
WHEN MY HOME FLOODED I WAS RECOVERING FROM MY FINAL SURGERY
FOR BREAST CANCER.
I MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT CHANGED WHAT FLOODING MEANT TO ME.
AT THE TIME I NEEDED MY HOME TO BE A SAFE PLACE TO RECOVER,
IT WASN'T.
THOSE OF US IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES, THIS
IS NOT AN ABSTRACT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.

WE KNOW THE DESTRUCTION THAT COMES AND ANXIETY EVERY TIME A
MAJOR STORM IN THE FORECAST.
PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OLDER CARING FOR CHILDREN,
DEALING WITH ILLNESS, RECOVERING FROM SURGERY OR CARING FOR
AGING PARENTS.
THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WONDER WHETHER THE HOME WILL FLOOD
OR CAN SAFELY GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
IT ALSO AFFECTS THE AREA AROUND THE HOSPITAL MEDICAL
OFFICES.
FOR SOMEONE WHO NEEDS MEDICAL CARE, THAT ACCESS MATTERS.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND THAT THERE
ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS ABOUT COST, CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS,
BUSINESSES AND FUNDING.
THOSE QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ASKED.
BUT THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN MODELED.
THE FLOODING HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED, AND THERE IS A PROJECT IN
FRONT OF YOU TO ADDRESS IT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY YOUR
CONSTITUENTS.
NOT BECAUSE A PROJECT IS EXPENSIVE.
IT ISN'T.
NOT BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION IS EASY, IT'S NOT.
IT IS A KNOWN PROBLEM AND CONTINUING TO LIVE WITH IT HAS A
COST, TOO.
RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN PAYING THE COST.

I CANNOT CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY HOME BUT YOU HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO HELP PREVENT ANOTHER FAMILY FROM GOING
THROUGH THE SAME THING.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD
RELIEF PROJECT TODAY.
THANK YOU.
10:19:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, BETH.
GIOVANNI, FOLLOWED BY BILL KOLEGA.
10:19:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS GIOVANNI ARACADI.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ACCENT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
TELL YOU ONE THING.
YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY, THE STRESS ON
THE BUSINESSES IS THE END OF THE WORLD.
IF THEY NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE BUSINESSES TO REMODEL, KNOCK
DOWN A BUILDING TO REBUILD AND FIX THEIR BUSINESSES FOR
THEIR OWN INTEREST, THERE'S NO PROBLEM, GOING TO LAST TWO
MONTHS, TWO YEARS OR EVEN MORE.
SO THE TIME WISE IS NOT LIKE A PROBLEM.
I ASK YOU TO MOVE FORWARD AND VOTE YES FOR THE PROJECT.
SO FAR THE PEOPLE THAT PAY THE BILLS, IT'S US AND WE NEED TO
MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU.
10:19:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION, I WENT AHEAD

AND ORDERED PIZZA FOR LUNCH.
WE'LL HAVE A SHORT LUNCH BREAK.
YOU WON'T EAT HEALTHY TODAY.
WE'LL DO A SHORT LUNCH BREAK.
JUST FYI SO WE CAN HAVE A SHORT BREAK SO WE CAN HEAR FROM
ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
BILL, GO AHEAD.
THE NEXT SPEAKER AFTER THIS WILL BE DAVID ADAMS.
10:20:15AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
BILL KOLEGA, PALMA CEIA PINES.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE A THREE-YEAR-OLD AND A FIVE-MONTH-OLD.
MILTON PUT A FOOT OF WATER THROUGHOUT OUR TOWNHOME.
I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE YES ON THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF
PROJECT.
HERE'S THE DOWNSIDE OF A NO VOTE TODAY AND ITS IMPACT ON THE
ENTIRE CITY.
$7.7 MILLION OF DESIGN ALREADY SPENT IN COST.
10 MILLION STATE GRANT AWARDED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS PROJECT
IS CANCELED.
POTENTIAL 25 MILLION GRANT ABANDONED.
THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL STILL NEED FUNDING TO FIX FLOODING
ISSUES REGARDLESS.
IS IT THE BEST THING FOR THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA TO WALK AWAY
FROM THIS, A LOCKED IN PRICE AND MULTIPLE GRANTS FOR AN AREA
THAT WILL NEED TO BE FIXED KNOWING THAT UNCONTROLLABLE

FACTORS ARE POPPING UP EVERY MONTH, LOCALLY AND GLOBALLY
LIKE THE FUEL CRISIS.
TWICE IN AUGUST, RAIN PUT THE ROADS IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE
UNDER WATER.
EACH TIME LESS THAN TWO INCHES.
THERE WERE ACTUAL FISH SWIMMING IN THE STREET 20 FEET ABOVE
SEA LEVEL.
MY KID LOVED IT, BUT --
AFTERNOON STORMS LIKE THIS CAN CUT PARENTS OFF FROM MITCHELL
ELEMENTARY.
CHILDREN'S NEST AND BRANCH ACADEMY PRESCHOOLS.
AT LEAST EIGHT OTHER SCHOOLS WITHIN A MILE FROM SWANN AND
AUDUBON.
HAPPENS TO BE A COUPLE MORE INCHES OF RAIN, THE WATER WOULD
START TO ENTER OUR HOMES.
I CREATED THIS PETITION A WEEK AGO ASKING TO YOU APPROVE
THIS.
MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED FROM DOZENS OF
NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT TAMPA, MOSTLY BY WORD OF MOUTH.
IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE IN THE IMPACTED AREA WHO WANT THIS
PROJECT APPROVED.
WE HAVE ALL PAID OUR TAXES AND THE STORMWATER FEES.
STORMWATER SYSTEMS ARE ONE OF THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL SERVICES
A GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROVIDE.
I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD

RELIEF PROJECT, FOR MY FAMILY, FOR MY NEIGHBORS, AND FOR
TAMPA'S FUTURE.
THANK YOU.
10:22:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, BILL.
PATRICK, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW.
NO.
JULIE MAGILL.
ASHLEY MORROW, YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER UP THERE.
YOU CAN LINE UP.
PATRICK, FOLLOWED BY JULIE.
10:22:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU MANY TIMES ABOUT THIS.
I'M PATRICK CIMINO.
HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAND USE CHAIR.
THE CITY HAS NOT ADDRESSED MAJOR CONCERNS, AS DAVID HAS
POINTED OUT AND MANY OTHERS.
WE SINCERELY SYMPATHIZE WITH THOSE WHO SUFFERED FROM FLOOD,
MANY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOT FLOODED AT THE SAME TIME.
WE COVER THE EAST HALF OF HOWARD SOUTH OF THE SELMON.
WE REMAIN CONCERNED TAMPA DOES NOT MAINTAIN ITS EXISTING
STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'VE ASKED FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S NEVER BEEN PRESENTED.
SOME REPAIRS HAVE BEEN MADE BUT MANY DEFICITS REMAIN AND
THERE HAS BEEN NO ORGANIZED PROPOSAL TO ADDRESS REPAIR AND

MAINTENANCE ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.
THE COMMUNITY HAS PLEADED FOR THIS.
IF THE ABOVE ISN'T ADDRESSED, AVOIDABLE SEASONAL FUNDING IS
GOING TO CONTINUE.
THE PLANS TO DEDICATE SO MUCH STORMWATER FUNDING WILL
POSTPONE OR CANCEL OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
TWO YEARS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WASTED ON LOOKING AT A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FLOODING.
THE LOGISTICS ARE DAUNTING.
HOWARD WOULD CLOSE DOWN FOR FOUR YEARS.
STRUCTURES WILL BE AT RISK OF DAMAGE.
NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE GRIDLOCKED WITH DETOURS.
WE KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IT TAKES TO PUT IN AN ELEVATOR SHAFT.
SIX MONTHS OF PUMPING.
THIS IS A HUGE CULVERT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL MANAGE THE WATER THAT GOES DOWN
HOWARD NOW.
IT'S LEGALLY GOING DOWN HOWARD WHEN THEY ARE PUMPING AND
DE SOTO FOR AN ELEVATOR SHAFT.
THE BOARD OF HPPNA REMAINS OPPOSED TO THIS PROBLEMATIC
PROJECT AND RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL REJECT IT.
PLEASE DEMAND A COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER PLAN.
WE DO NOT HAVE IT.
AND PAM HAS EXPLAINED IT.
SHE'S OUR EXPERT ON THE LAND USE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.
10:24:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JULIE MAGILL, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL.
10:24:44AM >> JULIE MAGILL, ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR.
AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE BEEN SHOWN, ARE YOU STILL
VOTING YES ON THIS?
ENGINEERS, YOUR OWN CITY STAFF, DEPOSITIONS, NUMEROUS OTHER
SUGGESTIONS THAT COULD HELP THIS AREA WITHOUT CARVING UP
HOWARD.
CONSIDER THIS.
IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO HAPPEN, DURING THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE
YEARS, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF WE HAVE ANOTHER MASSIVE
HURRICANE?
CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE THE RIVERS OF MUD FLOWING INTO ALL
THOSE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD?
IT'S A REAL POSSIBILITY.
THE SOLUTIONS ARE OUT THERE, THOUGH.
THREE OR FOUR RETENTION PONDS IN THAT AREA THAT IF THEY
WOULD JUST CLEAR THEM OUT, THERE'S ABOUT THREE TO FOUR FEET
OF SLUDGE.
WE COULD CAPTURE ABOUT 10 MILLION GALLONS OF STORMWATER JUST
THERE.
THAT'S A LOT OF WATER.
ANOTHER THING, THERE WAS NO BID ON THIS.
SO HOW WERE OTHER SOLUTIONS GIVEN TO THE CITY?
THIS STARTED AS A WATER DISTRIBUTION BID THAT WAS AWARDED TO

KIMMINS, AND THEN IT MORPHED INTO THIS HUGE DISASTER OF A
PROJECT.
IT WAS JUST HANDED TO THEM.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY.
WHAT ABOUT CSX RAILROAD ISSUE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN THERE?
A CHANGE ORDER.
MORE MONEY.
WHAT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HITTING LIMESTONE TEN FEET
DOWN.
CHANGE ORDER.
MORE MONEY.
PALMA CEIA PINES, STOP LYING TO THEM.
THIS WILL NOT HELP THEM IN THE FIRST ROUND.
IT WON'T.
IF YOU VOTE YES, WE'LL BE WATCHING CLOSELY.
IF YOU VOTE YES, WE CAN ONLY CONSIDER THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE AN
ULTERIOR MOTIVE THAT NONE OF US ARE PRIVY TO.
IF YOU VOTE YES, IT MEANS YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING WHAT THE
EXPERTS ARE TELLING YOU.
DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE NO.
AND LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE PLAN OF COLLECTION IN THE PONDS
AND RELEASE PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU.
10:26:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT TWO PEOPLE TO QUEUE UP WILL BE

MICHAEL STEWART AND LINDA STEWART.
SORRY, LINDSAY STEWART.
MICHAEL --
10:26:32AM >> MICHAEL DISSER, GOOD MORNING.
I HAVE SIX KIND OF RANDOM YET RELEVANT ANGLES IN THIS
MATTER.
ONE, I SUFFERED A LOSS -- MONETARY LOSS AT THE CORNER OF
AUDUBON AND SWANN IN THE STORMS.
THE BUILDING HAS BEEN RENOVATED, REPAIRED, BUT ANOTHER STORM
HITS, IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AS PART OF OWNING REAL ESTATE IN
THAT AREA.
TWO, MY EX-WIFE LIVES IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I HAVE TWO YOUNG GIRLS.
WHEN MY GIRLS STAY WITH THEIR MOM, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM
IF A STORM HITS.
SHE'S AT 2711 WEST FOUNTAIN.
NUMBER 3, I OWNED -- I LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
I OWN 2804 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
IT SOLD A YEAR AGO, 13 MONTHS AGO.
IT SET A RECORD FOR SALES.
THE NEW OWNER IS PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION IN THE
HOUSE.
THAT'S PARKLAND ESTATES.
NOT ANYONE THAT LIVES IN PARKLAND ESTATES REPRESENTS
PARKLAND ESTATES.

I SINCE MOVED TO JETON.
BUT THAT HOUSE DIDN'T FLOOD.
IT'S PROBABLY THE HIGHEST VALUED HOUSE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
NUMBER FOUR, I SOLD THAT HOUSE TO BUY MORE COMMERCIAL REAL
ESTATE ON SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE.
I OWN 410 SOUTH HOWARD, 402 SOUTH HOWARD, 301 SOUTH HOWARD,
302, 304, 306, 308 SOUTH HOWARD.
I OWN 305 SOUTH WESTLAND, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL.
311 -- 301 -- 311 SOUTH WESTLAND.
2205 WEST AZEELE.
COMBINED REAL ESTATE VALUE OF ABOUT $24 MILLION.
THIS IS NORTH OF THE PROJECT, BUT IMPACTS ME SIGNIFICANTLY
BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT GO TO EPICUREAN, GO TO BERN'S, GO TO
AVA, GO TO WHATEVER, THEN TRICKLE UP THE STREET TO MY
BUSINESSES.
I REPRESENT 162 EMPLOYEES.
SO I MORE THAN ANYONE IN THIS ROOM, AS FAR AS PEOPLE,
OBVIOUSLY, BIGGER CORPORATIONS, BIGGER LANDOWNERS THAN
MYSELF, BUT THIS IS SIGNIFICANT TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.
LASTLY, PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES THAT ARE
IMPACTED OR FLOODED CAN SELL.
NO ONE IS LOSING PROPERTY VALUE BECAUSE OF THIS.
THEY CAN SELL FOR MORE THAN THEY PROBABLY OWN -- OR OWE ON
IT.
BUSINESSES CAN'T JUST SELL RANDOMLY.

IT IS A CLOSED SMALL MARKET TO BUY BUSINESSES LIKE US,
RESTAURANTS, BARS, HOTELS, DOCTORS' OFFICES.
SO, OBVIOUSLY, I CAN ASK YOU TO VOTE NO, BUT I THINK THERE'S
MORE TO THE STORY THAN BEING TOLD BY CERTAIN PEOPLE.
THANK YOU.
10:29:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DAVID ADAMS FOLLOWED BY THE OTHER ASHLEY.
10:29:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID ADAMS.
I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
LOOK, THE FLOODING IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES
IS UNBEARABLE.
IT'S TWO TO THREE FEET OF WATER AT THE STREET LEVEL.
AND IT'S HAPPENED FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST 40 DAYS.
IT'S NOT A HURRICANE PROBLEM.
THIS FLOODING PROBLEM MUST BE FIXED.
MANAGING A STORMWATER SYSTEM IS A CORE GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.
THIS PROJECT PROVIDES A SOLUTION TO THE FLOODING.
YOU HAVE SIGNED AND SEALED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS THAT PROVE
THAT THE SOLUTION WORKS.
THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH KIMMINS CONTRACTING WITH THE
PERFORMANCE BOND WHICH REQUIRES KIMMINS TO COMPLETE THE
PROJECT.
THE ONLY SOLUTION, THE SOLUTION NOT ONLY FIXES PALMA CEIA
PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES, BUT THIS IS A GENERATIONAL
PROJECT.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS TIED INTO IT AND

WILL PROVIDE BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS
AROUND IT FOR YEARS TO COME.
I KNOW THE PROJECT WILL BE INCONVENIENT.
AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WE WILL DO OUR VERY BEST TO
SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES DURING CONSTRUCTION AND SO WILL
KIMMINS.
THE ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTED BY THE OPPOSITION IS NOT EFFECTIVE
AND WILL INCLUDE LAYING PIPES THROUGH PARKLAND ESTATES AND
THROUGH NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
COUNCIL ALREADY DENIED A SOLUTION THAT GOES THROUGH THE
NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO GO DOWN
COMMERCIAL ROADS AND THROUGH COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T VOTE TO BEGIN THIS PROJECT, THEN
THE PRICE FREEZE AND THE KIMMINS GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PROJECT
WILL EXPIRE I BELIEVE IN OCTOBER.
AGAIN, THE $7.7 MILLION OF ENGINEERING FEES WILL BE WASTED
AND THE $21 MILLION PLEDGED BY FDEP AND THE CROSSTOWN
EXPRESSWAY WILL ALSO BE WASTED.
THE NEXT SOLUTION UNDOUBTEDLY WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
MORE HOMES AND BUSINESSES WILL FLOOD.
THE RESIDENTS WILL NOT RECEIVE THE MEDICAL CARE THEY
DESERVE, AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOING AWAY.
I TRUST THESE ENGINEERS OVER HERE.
THEY HAVE DONE THEIR JOB AND HOMEWORK.

I HAVE FAITH THIS COUNCIL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND PA IS
THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 11 YEARS.
THERE IS NO PLAN B.
THIS IS IT.
THANK YOU.
10:31:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, DAVID.
ASHLEY AND THEN THE NEXT IN THE QUEUE IS CARISSA STEPHENSON
AND MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
10:31:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, ASHLEY MORAN.
PLEASE VOTE YES TODAY.
OUR ONE-STORY HOME NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE WHERE I HAVE LIVED
FOR 26 YEARS AND RAISED MY FAMILY FLOODED COMPLETELY IN
MILTON.
I WAS TRAPPED WITH MY ELDERLY IN-LAWS AND DOGS FOR NINE
HOURS.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SELL MY LITTLE HOME.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE MY ONLY SOLUTION.
I KNOW THERE ARE COMPETING VIEWS IN THE ROOM.
I KNOW HARD DECISIONS WILL LEAVE SOMEONE UNHAPPY.
WE JUST WANT THE CHANCE TO LIVE SAFELY IN OUR HOMES.
PLEASE TRUST THE ENGINEERING AND EVIDENCE AND VOTE YES
TODAY.
THANK YOU.
10:31:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BREVITY.
MICHAEL.
10:32:01AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL STEWART.
OWNER OF AVA RESTAURANT AND THE NEWLY OPENED LANDIN
RESTAURANT ON HOWARD AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN ON HOWARD AVENUE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
MY BUSINESS PARTNER IS JOE MADDON, THE FORMER TAMPA BAY RAYS
MANAGER.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT HOW WE DO OPPOSE THE
PROJECT.
EARLIER TODAY YOU RECOGNIZED CHARITIES THAT RAISE MONEY AND
YOU WERE GIVING OUT AWARDS.
JOE MADDON AND I HAVE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CHARITY EVENT
CALLED THANKS-MAS.
BEEN DO IT EVERY YEAR TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE HOMELESS.
THAT EVENT WILL SIMPLY NOT HAPPEN AGAIN ON HOWARD AVENUE.
I'M NOT BEING DRAMATIC.
I'M SPEAKING THE TRUTH.
HE COMPLETELY SHARES MY OPPOSITION.
I JUST HEARD A DOCTOR SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET A
LOAN?
DOES HE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO GET A LOAN WHEN YOU
HAVE NO REVENUE ON BUSINESSES TO BORROW MONEY THROUGH
CLOSURES OF RESTAURANTS?

THAT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL MY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE GOING TO
LOSE THEIR JOB DURING THIS.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MONEY.
UNLIKE OTHER FLOOD PROJECTS THAT I LIVED THROUGH ON
WESTSHORE AND ESTRELLA, WHICH DID NOT WORK DURING THE FLOOD,
WE ARE SIMPLY DIFFERENT.
IF YOU KNOW HOWARD AVENUE, YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE CROSSTOWN
EXPRESSWAY THERE.
WE HAVE THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING HERE TWO YEARS FROM NOW GOING,
OH, I TOLD YOU SO.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE MY LIFE ANY EASIER.
I CAN TELL YOU NOW ON RECORD, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY
THAT YOU'LL GET THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'VE SEEN SWANN CLOSE FOR FOUR HOURS ONE DAY, AND I WAS
BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO HENDERSON.
I ASK YOU, I KNOW I'M NOT ALLOWED TO LOOK BEHIND ME, PEOPLE
SITTING BEHIND ME REPRESENT PROBABLY A HUNDRED PEOPLE,
THAT'S ONE RESTAURANT WOULD EMPLOY THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME.
I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THEIR FACES AND EVERYBODY BACK THERE.
SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY DO WORK FOR ME.
THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES
THROUGH AFFECTS ONE RESTAURANT.
YOU WANT TO MULTIPLY THAT BY 40 BUSINESSES AND THEN THEIR
FAMILIES, WE'RE TALKING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

I'LL BE SHORT AND JUST PLEAD FOR YOU TO VOTE NO.
10:34:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
WE'VE GOT LINDSAY AND THEN THE NEXT IN THE QUEUE WILL BE
TINA ADAMS AND PAM CANNELLA.
10:34:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M LINDSEY STEWART.
I'M THE OWNER OF LANDIN AND AVA.
HE'S MY PARTNER.
A VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT IS A VOTE THAT PUTS 37 SMALL LOCALLY
OWNED BUSINESSES AND THE PEOPLE THEY EMPLOY AT SERIOUS RISK
WHILE LARGE CONTRACTORS STAND TO RECEIVE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS.
WE ALL SUPPORT IMPROVING TAMPA'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND REDUCING
THE FLOODING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN
SHOWN CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT THIS PLAN WILL DELIVER THE
PROMISED RESULTS OR THAT EVERY REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE HAS
BEEN FULLY EXPLORED.
PLEASE CONSIDER OTHER ROUTES TO CONNECT SWANN POND AND MAYBE
MAKE THE USE OF THE RECREATIONAL PARK.
THERE IS ALWAYS ANOTHER OPTION BESIDES TEARING UP HOWARD
AVENUE AND FORCING BUSINESSES TO CLOSE.
BUSINESSES ALONG MANHATTAN AVENUE SUFFER TREMENDOUSLY, EVEN
THOUGH TWO LANES REMAINED OPEN.
HOWARD AVENUE WOULD BE EVEN MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE IT IS
CONSTRAINED BY THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY AND HAS NO PRACTICAL

ALTERNATIVE ROUTES.
THE PROPOSAL WILL USE SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO OFFSET LOST
BUSINESSES AND AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE CITY KNOWS THIS
PROJECT WILL HURT REVENUE AND ELIMINATE JOBS.
SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS WILL NOT REPLACE LOST CUSTOMERS, LOST
INCOME OR LOST JOBS.
IF MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR MARKETING, WHY ISN'T IT DIRECTED
FINANCIALLY TO ASSIST AVAILABLE TO THE BUSINESSES AND
EMPLOYEES BEING HARMED.
THAT QUESTION DESERVES AN ANSWER.
PLEASE REJECT THIS PLAN AND DEMAND A SOLUTION THAT ADDRESSES
FLOODING WITHOUT DESTROYING THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT MAKE
TAMPA SPECIAL.
THANK YOU.
10:35:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CHARISSA FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE.
NOT YOU YET.
YOU'RE BACK IN LINE.
CHARISSA.
10:36:01AM >> CHARISSA STEVENSON.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I'M A WAITRESS AT AVA, THE ITALIAN RESTAURANT ON SOUTH
HOWARD AVENUE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING AT AVA AND LIVING IN TAMPA FOR OVER A YEAR
NOW.
I'M 21 YEARS OLD SUPPORTING MYSELF COMPLETELY WITH THIS JOB.

HOWARD HAS WELL OVER 800 EMPLOYEES JUST LIKE ME WHO DEPEND
ON THE JOB TO SURVIVE.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT ALL OF THEM.
THE PEOPLE MY AGE TRYING TO GET THROUGH COLLEGE, THE MOTHERS
WHO HAVE TO PICK UP AN EXTRA SHIFT AFTER THEIR REGULAR JOB
SO THEY CAN BUY THEIR CHILD NEW CLOTHES FOR SCHOOLS, THEN
THE COOKS IN THE BACK WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
THE MANAGERS AND CHEFS WHO HAVE WORKED THEIR ENTIRE LIVES
WORKING TOWARDS THIS CAREER.
JOE MADDON, THE CO-OWNER OF AVA HAS BEEN USING THIS
RESTAURANT TO HOST OUR YEARLY EVENTS THAT RAISE MONEY FOR
THE HUNGRY AND THE HOMELESS.
THESE ARE NOT JUST BUSINESSES ON A CONSTRUCTION MAP.
THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE, REAL FAMILIES AND REAL LIVELIHOODS
THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.
PLEASE CONSIDER THE HUMAN COST OF THIS PROJECT AND VOTE NO.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BREVITY.
WE HAVE MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO FOLLOWED BY TINA, PAM.
NEXT TWO IN THE QUEUE ARE MORGAN CAHILL AND TONY BROWN.
10:37:26AM >> VERY EXCITED ABOUT AGENDA 71.
REALLY GRATEFUL.
SAY HI TO EVERYBODY.
10:37:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, MICHELLE.
10:37:37AM >> HI.

10:37:39AM >> AS EVERYONE KNOWS, HE JUST BEAT CANCER AND WE LOST OUR
HOME DURING HELENE.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I AM HERE AS A RESIDENT, A PARENT, A TAXPAYER, A HOMEOWNER,
ASKING YOU TO MAKE A RESPONSIBLE DECISION, ONE THAT PROTECTS
TAPPAN TRACT.
STILL WAITING FOR STORMWATER RELIEF.
IN 2024, WHILE CARING FOR MY SICK CHILD, MY FAMILY LOST
EVERYTHING IN THE FLOOD.
WE SURVIVED BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF LOSING
EVERYTHING AGAIN.
THIS IS WHY I FIGHT.
I SHOW UP.
I SAY NO.
AND I HOPE THAT SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT DOES NOT FOLLOW THROUGH
BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOCATE ALL THE FUNDS AND IT WILL NOT HELP
ANYBODY AFTER THAT.
TAPPAN TRACT PARK IS NOT SIMPLY OPEN SPACE.
IT IS A PROTECTED NATURAL RESOURCE FOR A CRITICAL PART OF
OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
SO WE HAVE NO DRAINAGE.
THAT IS OUR DRAINAGE.
IT'S BEING ERODED.
IT'S DAMAGED.
IT'S ALTERED, THREATENING THE PARK'S ECOSYSTEM, THE

WILDLIFE.
THE WILDLIFE IS REALLY BAD.
IT'S GOING TO.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN A LOW-LYING AREA, AND WE FACE THREE
INTERCONNECTED THREATS.
TIDAL FLOODING, STORMWATER FLOODING, AND WASTEWATER
INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE.
THE GRAVITY SYSTEM IS NOT FUNCTIONING AS IT SHOULD.
THE DRAINAGE CONNECTION TO TAPPAN TRACT REVIEW NEARBY
DEVELOPMENTS AND STORMWATER CONTROL AND REQUIRES CORRECTIVE
ACTION.
STABILIZE THE PARK, VULNERABLE DRAINAGE, FEATURES THROUGH
REPAIR, MONITORING, AND PUBLIC EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROCEDURES
TO PROVIDE CLEAR, SCHEDULED AND FUNDING STATUS.
PRESCOTT PUMP REHABILITATION WAS STARTED AND IT'S STILL NOT
IN EFFECT.
IT WAS FUNDED, AND IT'S BEEN DELAYED A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN JULY.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN.
I JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE RECONSIDER OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
I DON'T WANT AREAS THAT ARE IN NEED OF HELP, ALL THIS MONEY
BEING ALLOCATED TO ONE AREA THAT EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS
ASSISTANCE.
IF WE DON'T FIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE, WHO DO WE FIGHT FOR?
10:40:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

10:40:28AM >> PLEASE HELP US.
10:40:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TINA.
MORGAN CAHILL IN THE ROOM?
TONY BROWN.
IF YOU COULD QUEUE UP ON THE WALL, PLEASE.
TINA, START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:40:39AM >> YES.
I'M TINA ADAMS.
I'M GOING TO PLAY A VIDEO FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO
WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
10:40:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S GOOD.
10:41:08AM >> VIDEO:
I CANNOT BE THERE BECAUSE OF WORK.
ASKED A NEIGHBOR TO PLAY THIS.
I UNDERSTAND THE ROOM MAY BE FILLED WITH PEOPLE WHO WORK ON
SOUTH HOWARD OBJECTING THE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY FEAR THEIR
JOBS ARE IN JEOPARDY.
I DO NOT BEGRUDGE THEM THAT CONCERN.
I DO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE CONCERN WHO LOSE THEIR JOBS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BUILDING TO WORK IN AT ALL BECAUSE THE
OFFICE IS FLOODED OR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO PLACE TO LIVE
FOR MONTHS BECAUSE THEIR HOME IS FLOODED.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE STAGED.
ADVANCED WARNING AND THE CITY IS PROVIDING RESOURCES TO
SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES WHILE CONSTRUCTION MOVES DOWN HOWARD

AVENUE.
THERE IS NO ADVANCED WARNING AND THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR US
WHEN OUR HOMES AND OUR BUSINESSES FLOOD.
JUST LIKE THERE IS NO FERRY TO BRING US HOME OR TO WORK OR
TO BRING CUSTOMERS OR PATIENTS OR CLIENTS TO OUR BUSINESSES
WHEN A SIMPLE THUNDERSTORM MAKES STREET IMPASSABLE ON A
SUMMER AFTERNOON.
THE PROJECT IS NOT CHEAP, BUT A NO VOTE TODAY WILL HAVE A
COST, TOO.
24 ROUTES HAVE BEEN VETTED.
THIS IS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE, MOST EFFICIENT OPTION.
THERE IS NO OTHER PLAN.
YOU WILL BE TELLING PALMA CEIA BUSINESSES THAT THEIR TOTAL
CLOSURE IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN SOUTH HOWARD SLOWDOWNS.
YOU'LL BE TELLING HOMEOWNERS THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH THEIR
HOMES FLOODING AGAIN.
YOU WILL BE TELLING EVERY PERSON WHO TAKES THE ARTERY OF
SWANN AVENUE DURING HEAVY RAIN THAT THEIR SAFETY IS NOT
SUFFICIENTLY IMPORTANT.
JUST NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER.
A YES VOTE TODAY IS A RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE ON BORROWED
TIME.
THERE WILL NEVER BE A ROUTE THAT PLEASES EVERYONE.
THERE WILL NEVER BE A CONVENIENT TIME OR A PERFECT SOLUTION
BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A NEED TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE

STORMWATER TO PROTECT LIVES AND BUSINESSES.
THE TIME IS NOW TO BEGIN THIS PROJECT.
AND TO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, I WOULD SAY WE ARE NEIGHBORS.
SAFETY SHOULD NEVER BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IN
TAMPA.
WE OWE IT TO EACH OTHER TO COME TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE
SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR HOMES AND OUR LIVELIHOODS.
I ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE YES AND TO CALL FOR UNITY.
[END OF VIDEO]
10:43:09AM >> I JUST WANT TO SAY SHE'S VERY ELOQUENT.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SHE SAYS.
THANK YOU.
10:43:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, TINA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE NEXT PERSON IN THE QUEUE IS ALLISON BURNS.
NEXT SPEAKER IS PAM CANNELLA.
ALLISON BURNS, IF YOU WOULD LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL,
PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:43:40AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST THE HOWARD PROJECT.
THIS IS BAYSHORE.
YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF WHERE WILL MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
STORMWATER GO IF ALL IS DIRECTED TO BAYSHORE AND HOWARD?

WE WERE ALL DEVASTATED BY THE FLOODING IN 2024.
MY OWN FAMILY HAD FLOODWATERS IN THEIR HOME.
AND SAT ON THE DINING ROOM TABLE UNTIL THE WATER WENT DOWN.
BUT THIS DECISION, NO MATTER HOW HARD, MUST BE BASED ON
FACTS, NOT SYMPATHY OR PERSONAL EMOTION.
THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT 2025 EXPLAINS OUTFALL CAN
FUNCTION IN REVERSE.
IT ALLOWS THE WATER TO BACK UP INTO THE SYSTEM AND EXIT AT
THE CONNECTED INLETS.
DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED TO DISPERSE STORMWATER RUNOFF
ACROSS MANY SYSTEMS TO DIFFERENT OUTFALLS, LIKE OUR EXISTING
SYSTEM.
RESEARCH SHOWS STORMWATER MODELS PRODUCE MAJOR ERRORS.
HOW WILL THE CITY DO MAINTENANCE?
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ADDRESS OUR EXISTING PONDS,
DITCHES, AND DRAINS.
THERE IS A PLAN B.
FIX CLEVELAND BASIN.
AMI HOSPITAL AND ZOM POND.
I WANT TO ADDRESS THE TAPPAN POND -- TAPPAN TRACT PARK.
THE REVITALIZATION OF TAPPAN TRACT PARK NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED.
THIS IS A UNIQUE AND LESSER KNOWN PARK, BUT IT'S UNDEVELOPED
NATURE, PRESERVED WITH MANGROVES, PROVIDING A NATURAL
BARRIER FOR FLOOD CONTROL DURING SURGES AND HEAVY RAINS.

AS LONG AS IT REMAINS OPEN AND UNDEVELOPED, IT ACTS AS A
NATURAL SPONGE ABSORBING STORMWATER AND AN ASSET TO
CONTROLLING FLOODING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT AREA.
THE RECENT 2024 HURRICANE CAUSED EROSION AND RESHAPING OF
THIS PARK, UPSETTING THE NATURAL FLOW FOR STORMWATER
DRAINAGE AND THE SANCTUARY FOR LOCAL WILDLIFE AND NATIVE
PLANTS.
PLEASE CONSIDER PRESERVING TAPPAN TRACT PARK, ONE OF
FLORIDA'S OLD NATIVE WETLANDS, AND TO CONTROL FLOODING FOR
RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
10:46:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, PAM.
NEXT SPEAKER IS MORGAN CAHILL FOLLOWED BY TONY BROWN,
ALLISON BURNS, HARRY COLEMAN, AND TOM VAN LLOYD.
MORGAN, START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:46:29AM >> MY NAME IS MORGAN CAHILL.
I LIVED IN TAMPA MY ENTIRE LIFE.
FIFTH GENERATION TAMPA NATIVE.
I LIVED IN CHANNELSIDE SINCE 2017 ON TOP OF THAT.
I'VE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
I KNOW THAT TAMPA IS CAPABLE OF DEVELOPING A MORE CREATIVE
AND THOUGHTFUL PLAN, ONE THAT SUPPORTS NOT ONLY OUR
RESIDENTS AND HOSPITALS IN NEED WHILE MINIMIZING THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES

SURROUNDING THIS PROJECT.
I'M A RESTAURANT MANAGER AT THE LANDING.
I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING MY EMPLOYEES WITH A SAFE AND
ACCESSIBLE WORKPLACE.
THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT SAFELY.
OUR VENDORS NEED ACCESS FOR DELIVERIES, EMERGENCY SERVICES
NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE.
OUR CUSTOMERS NEED A SAFE AND REASONABLE WAY TO GET TO OUR
BUSINESS.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FILL THOSE IF ACCESS TO WORKPLACE IS
SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITED.
RESTAURANT, ACCESS IS OUR LIVELIHOOD.
RESTRICTIVE ACCESS MEANS FEWER CUSTOMERS, OPERATIONAL
CHALLENGES AND POTENTIALLY FEWER JOBS.
IT AFFECTS NOT JUST ONE BUSINESS BUT THE EMPLOYEES AND THE
BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
I'M NOT ASKING THE CITY TO STOP ADDRESSING THE FLOODING.
I'M ASKING TO MAKE SURE SOLVING ONE PROBLEM DOESN'T CAUSE
MULTIPLE OTHERS.
PLEASE WORK WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO MAINTAIN SAFE,
RELIABLE ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT SO WE CAN CONTINUE
SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND BE THERE ONCE THE PROJECT IS
FINISHED.
THANK YOU.
10:47:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR BREVITY, MORGAN.

TONY.
ALLISON BURNS, ARE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE?
ALLISON, IF YOU ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, PLEASE COME TO
COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
HARRY COLEMAN.
HARRY COLEMAN, WOULD YOU PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL?
TOM -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAST NAME IS.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:48:14AM >> TONY BROWN.
I AM A SERVER IN THE HYDE PARK SOHO AREA.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I VOTE NO ON THE ISSUE.
I DO BELIEVE THERE CAN BE SOME KIND OF BETTER MIDDLE GROUND
TO BE FOUND FROM WHAT I KNOW.
I DO REPRESENT THE HOSPITALITY AND WAIT STAFF IN THE AREA.
I DO THINK THAT THE EFFECT WILL BE WORSE FOR THE BUSINESSES.
JUST VOTING NO ON THE ISSUE.
10:48:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TONY.
THANKS FOR BREVITY.
ALLISON BURNS, HARRY COLEMAN, AND THEN TOM.
AFTER THAT, IS JAN McCABE, I THINK.
HARRY COLEMAN, GO AHEAD.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:49:12AM >> ZOOM BY ITSELF?

10:49:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE YOU GO.
10:49:22AM >> HARRY COLEMAN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I PLEASE ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR ASKING THE HARD
QUESTIONS.
I WENT BACK THROUGH THE TRANSCRIPTS.
41 MEETING DAYS.
190 REMARKS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
PRESSED THE ADMIN ON THE PROJECT ABOUT COSTS, ALTERNATIVES.
ADMINISTRATION, BUSINESS DISRUPTION, MAINTENANCE,
TRANSPARENCY, AND THAT ALL MATTERS.
IT'S FORCED THE CITY, FORCED THE PROJECT TEAM TO EXPLAIN
ASSUMPTIONS, CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES, CHANGE THE DESIGN, AND
MAKE COMMITMENTS ABOUT HOW IT WILL ALL BE MANAGED AND THAT'S
WHAT THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT THERE IS A DANGER IN SPENDING YEARS EDITING SOMETHING.
SOON YOU ONLY SEE THE EDITS.
SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME IMAGINING WHAT MIGHT GO
WRONG.
THE CONSTRUCTION, THE NOISE, TRAFFIC, INCONVENIENCE, THE
COST, AND THEY ARE ALL LEGITIMATE.
BUT BEFORE THIS DECISION IS FINISHED, I HOPE WE ALSO SPEND A
MOMENT IMAGINING WHAT COULD GO RIGHT.
IMAGINE SOUTH HOWARD 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN NO ONE

REMEMBERS THE CONSTRUCTION.
STORMWATER SYSTEM BENEATH US IS WORKING.
CHILDREN GROWING UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY ARE RAISING
THEIR OWN FAMILIES HERE, BENEFITING FROM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
WAS BUILT BEFORE THEY WERE OLD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE
NEEDED IT.
THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE END OF THE SYSTEM.
THE CITY DESCRIBE THIS AS A SPINE FOR FUTURE FLOOD RELIEF.
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT OTHER AREAS CAN CONNECT INTO RATHER THAN
STARTING FROM SCRATCH LIKE WE ARE NOW.
ABOVEGROUND, IMAGINE HOWARD AFTER THE STREETSCAPE IS
REBUILT.
WIDER SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPING, BETTER PLACES TO WALK, SHOP,
AND EAT.
THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PART OF THE CITY'S STATED PROJECT
PLAN.
IMAGINE WHAT FOLLOWS FROM THAT.
THE VACANT LOTS AND THE UNDERUSED PROPERTIES THAT WE SEE
THERE TODAY DON'T REMAIN THAT WAY.
THERE ARE NEW BUSINESSES, NEW INVESTMENTS, AND NEW CUSTOMERS
FOR BUSINESSES THAT ALREADY MAKE SOUTH HOWARD SPECIAL.
NONE OF THAT MEANS IGNORING THE DISRUPTION REQUIRED TO GET
THERE.
SIMPLY MEANS WHEN WE PICTURE THE FUTURE, THE CONSTRUCTION
SHOULDN'T BE THE LAST PICTURE IN OUR HEAD.

WE SPENT YEARS CAREFULLY IMAGINING THE THINGS THAT COULD GO
WRONG.
BEFORE THIS PROCESS CONCLUDES, I HOPE YOU REMEMBER TO
IMAGINE THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.
PLEASE VOTE YES.
10:51:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TOM FOLLOWED BY JAN, FOLLOWED BY TYRAE,
ROBERT KELLEY, AND ASHLEY VU.
START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:51:47AM >> TOM VANSAN.
SECRETARY OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
THE CIVIC CLUB AND OUR NEIGHBORS IN PARKLAND STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
THE STREETS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE IMPASSABLE DURING A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM.
WE'VE HAD FLOODING THREE, FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST 60 DAYS.
IT'S UNABLE TO PASS -- THE STREETS ARE IMPASSABLE.
EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND CARS ARE UNABLE TO MOVE THROUGH THE
STREETS.
PATIENTS IN EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE UNABLE TO LEAVE OR ENTER
THE HOSPITAL.
OR DOCTORS OFFICES.
I LIVED IN PARKLAND FOR 28 YEARS.
THE FLOODING, WE MOVED THERE AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE MOVED
FROM MARYLAND AND WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS NOT FLOODING IN
THAT AREA.

WE HAD NO FLOODING UNTIL 2015.
THE CONSTRUCTION NORTH OF US HAS CREATED ALL THIS FLOODING
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO PROTECT US DURING A
HURRICANE.
BUT WE JUST NEED FLOOD RELIEF DURING A STRONG THUNDERSTORM.
TAMPA IS A LARGE AND RAPIDLY GROWING CITY AND THE FLOOD
PROJECT WOULD WORK AS A STARTING POINT FOR OTHER
NEIGHBORHOODS TO TIE INTO THIS FOR FUTURE FLOOD RELIEF.
PLEASE FUND THIS PROJECT AND KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
CITIZENS OF TAMPA SAFE.
THANK YOU.
10:53:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, TOM.
JAN FOLLOWED BY TYRAE.
10:53:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JAN McCABE.
TREASURER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
LIVED ON LAKEVIEW ROAD AND PARKLAND ESTATES FOR 26 YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME WE HAVE SEEN OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS LOSE
THEIR CARS IN FLOODED AREAS.
FLOODED HOMES OUTSIDE OF HURRICANE SEASON AND HAVE WATCHED
SEVERAL TIMES OUR LAKE VIEW ROAD HOUSE LITERALLY BECOME
WATERFRONT PROPERTY, ALL WITHIN MINUTES.
THEN WITH THE LAST HURRICANE, WE LOST BOTH CARS.
WE HAD OUR HOME FLOODED, BUT NOT NEARLY AS BAD AS OUR

FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS CLOSE BY.
WE WERE THE LUCKY ONES.
IT WAS HEARTBREAKING TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING
JUST WALKING AWAY FROM THEIR HOMES.
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE APPROVE THIS FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
10:53:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TYRAE, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT, ASHLEY.
NEXT PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE, JARROD DYER AND STEPHEN MICHELINI.
10:54:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS TYRAE VAY, SINGLE MOTHER, SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
I'M HERE IN MOVING THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT FORWARD.
FOR ME, FLOODING IN SOUTH TAMPA ISN'T SOMETHING I JUST READ
ABOUT IN REPORTS.
RECENTLY, I WAS DRIVING HOME ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD DURING
HEAVY RAIN, AND I GENUINELY BECAME AFRAID THAT I WASN'T
GOING TO MAKE IT HOME.
BAYSHORE WAS SUBMERGED.
WATER WAS OVER THE CURB.
CARS AROUND ME HAD HAZARD FLASHING LIGHTS ON.
AS I CONTINUED DRIVING, I BECAME INCREASINGLY ANXIOUS
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW DEEP THE WATER WAS GETTING OR
WHETHER MY SUV WOULD MAKE IT THROUGH.
MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO GET OFF OF BAYSHORE.
AS I STARTED LOOKING FOR A RESIDENTIAL STREET I COULD TURN
ONTO, I COULD NOT FIND A WAY HOME.

THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED THERE REALLY WASN'T A WAY OUT.
RESIDENTIAL STREETS LEADING AWAY FROM BAYSHORE WERE DEEPLY
FLOODED, TOO.
I FELT TRAPPED.
THAT EXPERIENCE CHANGED THE WAY I THINK ABOUT STORMWATER
INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS ISN'T SIMPLY ABOUT INCONVENIENCE OR HAVING WATER IN THE
STREET.
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER RESIDENTS CAN SAFELY GET HOME.
IT'S ABOUT EMERGENCY ACCESS.
IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE REALITIES WE'RE FACING AND
EXPERIENCING.
THE CITY IDENTIFIED FLOODING RELIEF, WATER QUALITY
IMPROVEMENTS, UPGRADE UTILITIES, REPAVED ROADS AND
REIMAGINED STREET ESCAPE AMONG THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT.
SO TODAY I'M ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE AND INVEST IN
SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS AND TO SUPPORT PARTNERS
WHO CAN HELP DELIVER THEM.
I SUPPORT MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD.
PLEASE VOTE YES.
SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WONDER WHETHER WE'RE
GOING TO MAKE IT HOME SAFELY.
THANK YOU.
10:56:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.

ROBERT KELLEY FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY.
10:56:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ROBERT KELLEY.
2603 WEST FOUNTAIN BOULEVARD.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES FOR 40 YEARS.
LAST 32 OF WHICH ON FOUNTAIN.
I BACK UP TO SWANN.
AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY, WE
DIDN'T HAVE A FLOODING PROBLEM THERE.
IT ONLY STARTED HAPPENING ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.
THIS PROJECT DOESN'T JUST BENEFIT A FEW HUNDRED HOUSES AND
BUSINESSES.
IT'S VITAL TO PROTECT THE SWANN AVENUE EAST-WEST CORRIDOR
THAT'S TRAVERSED BY THOUSANDS OF VEHICLES A DAY, AND
PROVIDES CRITICAL ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL AND OTHER HEALTH
CARE PROVIDERS.
METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, I AND THE OTHER AFFECTED RESIDENTS
FEEL LIKE WE ARE CASTAWAYS ADRIFT IN THE GULF ON A LIFE
RAFT, WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO COME GET US.
THAT SOMEONE IS YOU.
ON THE HORIZON, WE SEE A HELICOPTER HEADING OUR WAY, AND ALL
OF A SUDDEN OUR SPIRITS ARE UPLIFTED.
HELP IS COMING.
THAT HELICOPTER HOVERS OVER US.
AND THE BASKET IS DROPPED BUT IT STOPS BEFORE IT GETS TO US.

THAT REPRESENTS THE MONEY YOU'VE INVESTED ALREADY IN THIS
PROJECT.
WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE BASKET IS NOT BEING LOWERED ALL
THE WAY TO THE RAFT TO RESCUE US.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
BY YOUR VOTE, YOU EITHER CHOOSE TO ABANDON US OR TO SAVE US.
I HOPE IT'S THE LATTER.
THANK YOU.
10:57:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR BREVITY.
ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY JARROD.
THE NEXT FOLKS TO QUEUE ARE STEPHANIE POYNOR AND MARTY
MILLBURG.
10:57:45AM >> HI.
ASHLEY VU.
THE OWNER OF THE NAIL SALON ON 2511 SWANN AVENUE.
I GET THIS YEAR, I GET TO WITNESS THE RISING WATER TO THE
SIDEWALK, THE BUILDING, JUST FROM THE SUMMER RAIN.
I LIVE IN FEAR.
I'M TERRIFIED THINKING OF THE NEXT STORM COMING.
PLEASE VOTE YES.
PLEASE SAVE MY BUSINESS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES.
THANK YOU.
10:58:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
JARROD.
FOLLOWED BY STEVEN.

10:58:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS JARROD DYER.
I'M A BUSINESS OWNER ON SOUTH HOWARD.
THE CITY AND THE PROPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT KEEP SAYING
THERE'S NO OUR OPTION, BUT THAT'S -- NO OTHER OPTION.
THAT'S INACCURATE.
EVERY OPTION OR ROUTE THEY STUDIED WERE ALL HUGE TRENCHES.
ALL HUGE TRENCHES THROUGH DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY AND
VARIOUS REASONS THEY CAN'T ALL WORK, GOT THAT.
BUT HOW CAN THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY NOT BE EVEN REMOTELY
INTERESTED IN EXPLORING A VAULT SOLUTION.
IT WOULD BE FASTER, MORE LOCALIZED, AND LESS EXPENSIVE.
THERE'S NO RISK OF DAMAGING STRUCTURES ALONG HOWARD AVENUE.
THERE'S NO BUSINESS LOSSES.
NO MITIGATING FDEP CONTAMINATION SITES, ET CETERA.
I'VE HEARD CRITICISMS THAT THE VAULT CONSTRUCTION WOULD MEAN
CONSTRUCTION IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES.
BUT WHY IS THAT BAD?
THE WHOLE PROJECT IS FOR THEM.
THEY ARE THE ONES WHO NEED THE RELIEF AND THE ONES THAT GET
ALL OF THE BENEFIT.
THAT IS WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE, NOT FORCED ON
ANOTHER SECTION OF TOWN THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
FLOODING AND GETS NO BENEFIT.
FEW MINUTES AGO, SOMEONE SAID THIS IS A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

YES, THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES THAT WE HELPED, BUT LET'S BE
CLEAR, THIS PROJECT IS OVERWHELMINGLY MEANT TO PROVIDE
RELIEF TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
IN WHAT UNIVERSE COULD A PROJECT WHOSE ENTIRE EXISTENCE IS
TO HELP TWO FAIRLY WEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS POSSIBLY BE
CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.
I HATE THAT PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES ENDURE THE
FLOODING THAT THEY DO.
IT'S TERRIBLE.
I'VE SEEN THE THINGS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS SINCE THE
HURRICANES.
FIRST MEETING ABOUT THIS WAS FOUR YEARS AGO IN 2022.
IT'S SO OBVIOUS THAT A SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT IF I CAN END WITH A WEAK ANALOGY.
IF I NEED A ROOT CANAL, I CAN'T HAVE YOU SIT IN THE CHAIR
FOR ME.
I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS MYSELF.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT ON SOMEONE ELSE AND BE, I
FEEL SO MUCH BETTER.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.
IT'S NOT RIGHT.
I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO TODAY.
11:00:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JARROD.
STEVEN.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, YOU ARE IN THE QUEUE.

DAVID DeLOACH.
11:00:31AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS, ALL OF WHICH
ARE SUSPECT.
YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO IGNORE THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF
EXCLUSIONS IN THE GMP.
THOSE EXCLUSIONS MUST BE PAID FOR BY THE CITY.
YOU HAVE IGNORED THE -- YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO IGNORE THE
FACT THAT YOU'RE TAKING STORMWATER ASSESSMENT FEES AND
YOU'RE SHIFTING THEM FROM CITYWIDE TO ONE SPECIFIC PROJECT
WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED.
YOU'RE IGNORING THE FALSE PROMISES, THE ONES REGARDING PALMA
CEIA PINES.
THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY WILL BE SERVICED AND
HELPED.
THEY WILL NOT BE HELPED UNDER PHASE ONE AT ALL, AND THERE'S
NO FUNDING FOR PHASE TWO.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE E-MAILS BETWEEN THE CITY
STAFF WHERE THEY DELIBERATELY HAVE SAID THEY ARE TRYING TO
MISLEAD THE COUNCIL AND WITHHOLD INFORMATION FROM YOU.
WE HAVE THE E-MAILS.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE CITY AND THE
STORMWATER FEES FOR FIVE YEARS WOULD BE DIVERTED 100% TO
THIS PROJECT.

NO OTHER FUNDING WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT 13 FUNDED PROJECTS
WILL BE REMOVED AND THAT MONEY WILL BE SHIFTED TO THIS
PROJECT.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE REAL COSTS
COME IN AT MORE THAN 150 MILLION, AND THAT PRICE TAG IS
GOING UP.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE DOCUMENTS THAT
WERE WITHHELD FROM US UNDER PUBLIC INFORMATION HAVE BEEN
WITHHELD FOR OVER SIX MONTHS SINCE JANUARY, AND THE ABILITY
TO ANALYZE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT IS COMPROMISED
BECAUSE OF THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE CSX RAILWAY
CROSSING IS IN-- I MEAN, IS INSUFFICIENT AND IS TOO SMALL
WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PERMITTING AND THE FACT IS, THEY
PROBABLY ARE GOING TO ABANDON.
THE WHOLE REASON THEY WERE GOING DOWN HOWARD IN THE FIRST
PLACE WAS THE CULVERT IN SOUTH HOWARD.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT FLOODING WILL
STILL OCCUR.
THIS IS NOT HURRICANE FLOODING.
NORMAL RAINWATER FLOODING WILL STILL OCCUR.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE CLEVELAND
BASIN FAILS, AND THAT'S REALLY THE ORIGIN OF THE FLOODING ON
SWANN.

YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO
PARALLEL STREETS FOR ACCESS TO ANY OF THIS AND THERE'S NO
SIGNIFICANT SUBSTITUTE FOR PROVIDING ACCESS TO ANY OF THESE
BUSINESSES.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE WERE $50
MILLION IN STATE GRANTS WERE DENIED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
PROVE THE COST AND THE NEED AND THEY DIDN'T PROVE THE FACT
THAT ANY BENEFIT WAS GOING TO OCCUR FOR THAT AMOUNT OF
MONEY.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
CONTAMINATION EXISTS, AND THERE'S NO PLAN FOR THAT EXCEPT
THE CITY TO PAY FOR IT.
YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
GIVEN FALSE HOPES, FALSE DREAMS, BROKEN PROMISES AND HERE WE
STAND.
PLEASE DENY THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.
LET US COME UP WITH A REASONABLE SOLUTION.
11:03:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
MARTY MILLBURG.
HANK FISHKIND.
11:03:45AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT TO CHIEF BENNETT
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT FEEDING TAMPA BAY WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN
AS FAR AS THEY HAVE WITH TAMPA HOPE HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIM
PUSHING FOR IT AND HIS GENUINE NEED FOR THE HOMELESS.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THE THINGS ON THE AGENDA FIRST.
NUMBER 10 AND NUMBER 3, I WONDER WHY THEY DON'T GO
TOGETHER.
ONE IS A GRANT FOR HIGH INCIDENT ISSUES WHERE TPD WOULD BE
ABLE TO PAY OVERTIME FOR OFFICERS TO BE THERE.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT I COULD SPEAK TO MANY FOLKS
AND TELL YOU THAT I HADN'T SEEN MANY OF THOSE FOLKS HANGING
OUT DOING OVERTIME, ISSUING TRAFFIC TICKETS IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT OVERLAP.
33 THROUGH 35 IS FOR LEGAL SERVICES THROUGH 2029.
WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE YET AND HAVEN'T SET
THE BUDGET FOR IT?
WHAT LEGAL SERVICES ARE THESE THREE FIRMS PROVIDING FOR US?
WE'LL GET BACK TO THE ITEM AT HAND, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY
IS WASTING THEIR TIME AND THEIR BREATH TALKING ABOUT.
IF ANYBODY UP THERE HASN'T MADE A DECISION ALREADY, I'D FALL
OUT ON THE FLOOR.
I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT SOMEBODY SAID THAT YOU'RE
TELLING THE HOMEOWNERS WHO FLOODED LAST TIME THAT THEY
SHOULD DO OUT AND DON'T CARE IF THEY FLOOD.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE -- AND I DON'T HAVE
THOSE NUMBERS FROM THE CITY.
I HAVE REQUESTED THEM ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO TO KNOW THE
NUMBERS AND ADDRESSES AND MAKE A LITTLE CHART THAT LOOKS

LIKE THE COUNTY'S, ABOUT WHERE THE FLOODING WAS AND WHERE
THE DAMAGES WERE.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING BACK FROM THE CITY ON THAT.
THIS HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT, WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THIS IS
ALL THE TIME I'VE BEEN HANGING OUT DOWN HERE AND COMING
AROUND, I'VE NEVER SEEN ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL BEFORE.
BUT YET, SOUTH HOWARD IS GOING TO ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
WE'RE GOING TO ROB OTHER COMMUNITIES OF PROJECTS IN ORDER TO
PAY FOR THIS.
THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THIS WEEK, WE'VE GOT SWANN PARK, WHICH
IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY FROM HOWARD AVENUE.
AND THERE WAS A LIST CIRCULATED BY REVENUE AND FINANCE TO
ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
NEXT, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE LINES ARE
BROKEN FOR CSX, WHEN STAFF CAME UP HERE OVER AND OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAID WE
HAVE TO GO DOWN HOWARD BECAUSE THAT'S THE PATH OF LEAST
RESISTANCE, WAS THAT A LIE?
I DON'T KNOW.
11:06:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.
MARTY MILLBURG, FOLLOWED BY HANK FISHKIND, FOLLOWED BY
DAVID, SUSAN FERNANDEZ AND STEVE GERRISH.
11:06:29AM >> MARTY MILLBURG, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH 40 YEARS OF
EXPERIENCE IN TECHNICAL ENGINEERING.

LIVE ON WEST WATROUS AVENUE, BLOCK OR TWO FROM THE PROJECT.
I TALKED TO YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HIRED BY THE SOUTH HOWARD COMMUNITY.
I'M HERE AS A NEIGHBOR.
I DO SOIL BORINGS FOR A LIVING.
YOU WERE TOLD THAT THIS IS A TYPICAL JOB.
IT'S NOT.
THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL FIVE TO TEN FOOT DEEP EXCAVATION.
THIS IS A 20-FOOT DEEP TRENCH.
19 FEET TO BE SPECIFIC.
IT IS GOING TO BE BELOW THE WATER TABLE.
WATER TABLE IS ABOUT TWO OR THREE FEET DEEP.
10 OR 15 FEET AWAY FROM BUILDINGS.
IT IS A MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.
CONTRACTOR HAS REPRESENTED THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS
WITH A TRENCH BOX.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT ACCURATE.
THE BIGGEST TRENCH BOX I'VE EVER SEEN IS MAYBE SIX FEET.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET A 12-FOOT WIDE OBJECT INSIDE A SIX
FOOT WIDE.
I SAY 12-FOOT WIDE, 10-FOOT SQUARE BOX CULVERT WITH ONE FOOT
WALL, THAT'S 12 FEET.
YOU WON'T GET INSIDE A TRENCH BOX.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN IGNORED -- HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE
CONTRACTOR OR THE DESIGN TEAM.

THERE ARE OVER 600 SHEETS IN THE 60% DESIGN, AND THAT HAS
NOT -- PROTECTING THIS EXCAVATION ON ONE SHEET.
MENTIONED EARLIER SIGNED AND SEALED PLANS, NO THERE'S NOT.
THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR THE SHORING.
I CAN ABSOLUTELY ASSURE YOU WITH CERTAINTY, 100% CERTAINTY
YOU WILL NEED TO SHORE THIS.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, IF I'M MISREPRESENTING THIS
INTENTIONALLY, I'M SUBJECT TO CIVIL PENALTIES FOR THIS.
I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN BEING RIGHT.
AT THE VERY MINIMUM, IT WILL COST ANOTHER $25 MILLION TO
SHORE THIS PROJECT.
PROBABLY MORE ON THE ORDER OF 50.
I CAME UP WITH MAYBE 108 MILLION FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL
CERTAINLY WORK.
THIS $92 MILLION GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE EXCLUDES THAT.
IT EXCLUDES ANY CONTAMINATION.
SO THE DEWATERING WHEN YOU HIT LIMESTONE, NOT IN THERE.
ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BEEN MENTIONED THAT
THERE IS NO OTHER SOLUTION.
WELL, THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS AND THEY HAVE BEEN
MISREPRESENTED BY THE CITY.
HERE IS THE CENTER OF THE FLOODING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU PIPE IT OVER.
PUT A PUMP HERE.
COSTS ABOUT 25 -- THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG HAS FOUR ACTIVE

PUMPING STATIONS. TWO MORE ON THE BOOKS.
SAY IT COSTS BETWEEN 20 AND 33 MILLION.
I HAVE 25 MILLION IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT.
$4 MILLION TO RUN THE PIPE FROM THE PUMP STATION TO HOWARD
AVENUE.
I'VE GOT $6 MILLION, AND THESE ARE COULD ET CETERA FROM
CONTRACTORS TO DO A HORIZONTAL DRILL, $40 MILLION TO DO THIS
PROJECT.
THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE.
THE CITY HAS MISREPRESENTED THAT.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:09:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NO.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
NO CLAPPING.
I'LL CALL YOU OUT OF ORDER AND ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE
CHAMBERS.
HANK, DAVID, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:09:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
DR. HANK FISHKIND, FISH KIND CONSULTING.
I WAS RETAINED BY THE SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESS ALLIANCE TO
CONDUCT AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND COST BENEFIT REVIEW OF THE
PROJECT.
LET ME SHARE WITH YOU MY FINDINGS.
THE FIRST THING I DID WAS TO LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT

ANALYSIS AND ENGINEERING PRELIMINARY DESIGNS.
I NOTICED A GLARING OMISSION.
THERE WAS NO ANALYSIS OF THE LOSS OF BUSINESS SALES DURING
THE CONDUCT OF CONSTRUCTION ALONG SOUTH HOWARD.
THE PROFESSIONAL LITERATURE IS VERY EXTENSIVE, VERY CLEAR
THAT CONSTRUCTION LIKE THIS HAS SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION
EFFECTS AND CAUSES LOSS OF SALES FOR ADJACENT BUSINESSES.
I ANALYZED WHAT THIS WOULD COST HERE LOOKING AT EACH
BUSINESS.
BUSINESS BY BUSINESS, WHAT DID THEY SELL, HOW LONG WOULD THE
TRENCH BE IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS, HOW LONG WOULD THE
DISRUPTION OCCUR.
BASED ON THE PROFESSIONAL LITERATURE AND THE ANALYSIS OF
EACH AND EVERY BUSINESS DURING THE 43 MONTHS OF DURATION OF
THIS PROJECT, GOING TO LOSE ALMOST A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
OF SALES.
THAT LOSS OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF SALES TRANSLATES
INTO ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC IMPACTS.
I USE WHAT IS CALLED THE -- INPUT AND OUTPUT MODEL USED
PROFESSIONALLY BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND ECONOMISTS TO
DETERMINE AND TRANSLATE HOW MUCH DOES A LOSS OF SALES OF
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS MEAN IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT AND LOST
ECONOMIC OUTPUT.
1100 JOBS ARE LIKELY AT RISK HERE FROM THIS ALONE.
FURTHERMORE, THE NEXT STEP WAS TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR AND

TO LOOK AT THE COSTS OF THE PROJECT.
AS THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME JUST MENTIONED, THE COST OF THE
PROJECT IS ESTIMATED NOW AT $100 MILLION.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT
BUDGET, INCLUDING THE BAYSHORE OUTFALL, DEALING WITH
CONTAMINATED SITES ALONG THE ROUTE OF THE PROJECT, THE CSX
BAYSHORE OUTFALL, SHORING, ET CETERA.
THOSE WOULD TAKE THE COSTS FROM A HUNDRED MILLION TO ABOUT
150 MILLION.
EACH ONE OF THOSE SIX MISSIONS INCREASED THE LENGTH OF TIME
IT TAKES TO BUILD THE THING.
IT GOES FROM 43 MONTHS TO 67 MONTHS.
THAT'S ADDITIONAL TIME THAT WOULD GENERATE ADDITIONAL LOSS
OF SALES.
OF OVER 154 MILLION.
FINALLY, I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER TO GET THE COST AND THE
BENEFITS.
ON THE LEFT IS THE CITY'S PLAN.
THE COST OF THE CITY'S PLAN IS OVER $300 MILLION.
IT'S 150 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF.
IT'S OVER 150 MILLION OF LOST SALES.
THE BENEFITS, IF WE ACCEPT THE CITY'S BENEFITS, THE BENEFITS
BEING 118 MILLION.
COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS .38, MINUS $189 MILLION FOR THE
PROJECT AS PLANNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR PHONES ARE MUTED.
DAVID, START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:13:02AM >> DAVID DeLOACH.
GOOD MORNING.
PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH DeLOACH ENGINEERING SCIENCE OUT
OF ORLANDO.
I'VE BEEN RETAINED BY THE SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
I HAVE MODELED THESE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE SAME MODEL
FRAMEWORK THAT THE CITY'S CONSULTANT HAS USED.
FLOODING IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES HAS TWO
CAUSES.
THE FIRST IS LOCAL.
THE BOWL HAS NOWHERE TO PUT WATER.
THE SECOND IS REGIONAL.
THE CITY'S ENGINEERING REPORT SAYS THAT WHEN THE CLEVELAND
STREET OUTFALL IS OVERWHELMED, WATER BACKS UP.
IT'S ACTUALLY DIVERTED INTO THE AMI POND AND FLOODS PALMA
CEIA PINES.
IT THEN FLOWS OVER LAND TO PARKLAND ESTATES, AND THIS IS IN
THE SAME FIVE-YEAR STORM PROJECT THAT THE PROJECT IS
DESIGNED FOR.
STAFF TOLD YOU ON SEPTEMBER 3rd THAT THE CLEVELAND SYSTEM
IS UNDERSIZED AND OVERBURDENED.
BUT THAT THERE WAS NO PLAN TO FIX IT.

INSTEAD THE CITY'S PLAN BUILDS A 6,000-FOOT TRUNK LINE OUT
OF THE BASIN DOWN SOUTH HOWARD LEAVING THE SOURCE UNTOUCHED.
OUR CONCEPT DOES THE OPPOSITE.
PUT STORAGE WHERE THE FLOODING IS.
THREE UNDERGROUND VAULTS.
46-ACRE FEET OF AMI POND, PARKLAND ESTATES OPEN SPACE AND
ZOM POND.
WITH PUMPS THAT EMPTY WITHIN JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS, FLOWING
BY GRAVITY THROUGH THE EXISTING PARKLAND OUTFALL, AND FIX
CLEVELAND STREET.
THIS IS THE NEEDED CORRECTION THAT THE CITY'S OWN STUDIES
HAVE RECOMMENDED OVER AND OVER AGAIN SINCE 1983.
THE EXISTING RAILROAD CROSSING, NOTHING NEEDED AT SELAH
BAYSHORE OUTFALL AND NO TRENCH ON SOUTH HOWARD.
WE RAN THIS IN THE CITY'S MODEL FRAMEWORK FOR THE CITY'S
DESIGN STORM.
BOTH RESULTS ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE CITY'S OWN MAP.
PURPLE IS FLOODING REMOVED.
CITY'S PHASE ONE CLEARS PARKLAND ESTATES BUT LEAVES MOST OF
PALMA CEIA PINES BLUE.
CITY'S REPORT ASSIGNS THOSE FLOODED STREETS TO UNFUNDED
FUTURE PHASE.
FROM THE MAP, ONLY 65% OF FLOODING IS REMOVED.
A CLEVELAND FIX PLUS THREE LOCAL VAULTS TURNS BOTH
NEIGHBORHOODS PURPLE, ROUGHLY 90% OF TODAY'S FLOOD AREA

WOULD BE REMOVED.
THESE ARE PLANNING LEVEL RESULTS, BUT THAT'S 65% REMOVAL
AGAINST 90%.
GET THE LOCAL VAULTS OPERATING QUICKLY IN ABOUT 16 TO 18
MONTHS, NOT 2030.
WORK IN THREE DISCRETE SITES, NOT ALONG A 19-FOOT CANYON
BETWEEN A MILE OF OCCUPIED BUILDINGS.
AND PALMA CEIA PINES GETS RELIEF IN THE FIRST MODULE, NOT IN
A PHASE TWO WITH NO MONEY AND NO DATE.
IT'S ROUGHLY $86 MILLION WITH NO CONTINGENCY.
104 IF YOU ASSIGN A 20% CONTINGENCY.
THAT'S COMPARABLE TO THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PACKAGE IN
FRONT OF YOU BEFORE ALL THE OTHER EXCLUSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
MENTIONED.
PLEASE VOTE NO.
THERE IS ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT DOES MORE.
11:16:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
SUZANNE FERNANDEZ FOLLOWED BY STEVE.
11:16:15AM >> I'M SUZANNE FERNANDEZ.
I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE YES FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD
FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
THE PROPOSED PLAN IS NOT PERFECT.
THERE IS NO PERFECT PLAN.
THE PROBLEM IS THE CURRENT FLOODING THREATENS OUR SAFETY AND

ACTUALLY THE SAFETY OF CITIZENS IN FAR-REACHING COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE TO COMMUTE INTO OUR AREA FOR WORK.
THE FLOODING OCCURS AFTER A TYPICAL SUMMER RAINSTORM.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXTRAORDINARY EVENTS LIKE HURRICANES
HELENE AND MILTON.
THE PLAN ON THE TABLE TODAY WILL KEEP OVER 90% OF THE
STRUCTURAL FLOODING FROM HAPPENING IN PARKLAND ESTATES AND
PALMA CEIA PINES.
DO YOU REALIZE WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE
BUSINESSES IN THE AREA?
IT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO FACE MONTHS OF RECONSTRUCTION.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT -- IT MEANS WE DON'T LOSE THE ITEMS IN
OUR HOMES THAT AREN'T COVERED BY FLOOD INSURANCE, WHICH THE
FEDERAL FLOOD INSURANCE PLAN ACTUALLY COVERS VERY LITTLE OF
THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY FLOODING.
IT'S ON A DEPRECIATED SCHEDULE INSTEAD OF A REPLACEMENT
SCHEDULE.
IT MEANS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE AREA CAN STILL
COME TO WORK AND GET A PAYCHECK.
OTHERWISE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET A PAYCHECK FOR MONTHS.
UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN, HOWARD AVENUE AT THE MOST IS GOING
TO BE CLOSED FOR ANY ONE PARTICULAR BUSINESS AT A TIME NOT
TO EXCEED SIX WEEKS.
WE'VE HEARD FROM BUSINESS OWNERS AT DALE MABRY, MORRISON AND
HENDERSON WHERE A SIMILAR PLAN WAS BUILT.

THEY WERE ABLE TO REMAIN OPEN DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, AND
THEIR INTERSECTIONS NO LONGER FLOOD.
THIS PLAN WILL MOVE THE DRAINAGE FROM THE AMA POND, WHICH IS
PART OF THE CLEVELAND BASIN NOW, TO THE SOUTH HOWARD BASIN.
THE CLEVELAND SYSTEM IS OVERBURDENED.
THE WATER ACTUALLY FLOWS BACKWARDS IN OUR AREA IN THE PALMA
CEIA PINES AREA INTO THE AMA POND WHICH CAUSES ADDITIONAL
FLOODING.
THIS WILL TAKE THE AMA POND AND NOW MOVE IT TO THE HOWARD
AVENUE FLOOD RELIEF SO THAT THE BACKFLOW WILL NO LONGER
OCCUR.
THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE A
PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF THE AMA POND.
THIS PLAN IS ALSO EXPANDABLE, ALLOWING OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS
THAT ARE EXPERIENCING FLOODING TO BE ADDED TO THE SYSTEM
WITH NO LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED.
PLEASE VOTE YES FOR THE FLOOD RELIEF PLAN.
11:19:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SUZANNE.
STEVE.
IN THE QUEUE BEHIND CARROLL ANN BENNETT AGAINST THE WALL,
BRAD DIXON, ED DE LA PARTE AND ALISON DATE.
11:19:15AM >> HI.
STEVE GERRISH.
I FIRST WANTED TO START THIS OFF BY JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO
ALL OF YOU.

I FEEL LIKE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE DEVELOPED SOME
KIND OF KINSHIP.
NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU ARE VOTING OR PLAN TO VOTE ON THIS
TOPIC, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS SPENT AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF YOUR PERSONAL TIME OUTSIDE THESE CHAMBERS
RESEARCHING AND DELIBERATING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
IT'S TRULY IMPRESSIVE.
I SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU.
MOVING ON FROM THAT, ONE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND I
WOULD INVITE ANY HOWARD BUSINESS OWNER TO PLEASE EDUCATE ME,
BECAUSE I'M NOT A BUSINESS OWNER.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
BUT IT SEEMS THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO CLOSE YOUR BUSINESS
COMPLETELY FOR RENOVATIONS OR REBUILDING FOR MONTHS OR
YEARS, AND BE JUST FINE, WHY IS IT THAT SIX MONTHS -- I'M
SORRY, MISSPOKE -- SIX WEEKS OF STREET CLOSURE ALONE IN
FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC.
THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND TELLING EMPLOYEES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE FIRED SEEMS
VERY DISINGENUOUS.
IF I WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS, I WOULD BE QUESTIONING
THE MOTIVES OF MY EMPLOYER.
PLEASE EDUCATE ME IF YOU ARE SPEAKING AFTER ME.
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, COUNCIL, YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WHERE I
STAND WITH THE FLOODING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT.
IF THIS GETS VOTED DOWN TWO YEARS, FOUR YEARS, TEN YEARS
FROM NOW, THE NEXT PROJECT THAT COMES UP IS GOING TO HAVE
PROBLEMS AND ISSUES.
THERE'S GOING TO BE NEW PEOPLE UP HERE TELLING YOU WHY IT'S
WRONG.
THERE'S GOING TO BE FAMILIAR FACES TELLING YOU WHY IT'S
WRONG BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH EVERY CITY
COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PROBLEMS, BUT WE NEED
HELP.
WE NEED A SOLUTION.
WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN NOW.
IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS AND WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN NOW.
THANK YOU.
11:21:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY BRAD DIXON.
11:21:30AM >> HI.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 64, THE CHANGE OF
THE TREE ORDINANCE.
THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS IN IT.
THE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY FRONT YARDS AND SIDE YARDS.
THAT'S GREAT.
THE LIST OF ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THE MONEY CAN BE USED FOR

IN THE ONE SECTION, THAT'S GOOD, TOO.
BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE AS T-TAG, I'M A
FOUNDING MEMBER, WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
WE SENT YOU AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY.
IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND CONCLUSIVE.
IN ONE SECTION, WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU ADD THE WORDS PRIMARILY
TYPE ONE AND TWO.
IT'S PRIMARILY.
IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY OR ONLY.
JUST PRIMARILY ONE OR TWO.
AND WE FEEL THIS IS NECESSARY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY
THEIR PRIORITY IS TYPE ONES AND TWOS, WE DON'T SEE THAT IN
ACTION.
WE ONLY HEAR IT IN WORDS.
YEARS AGO, THE -- FINALLY BEGGED YOU TO PUT LIVE OAKS IN
FRONT OF FIRE STATIONS.
SEEN BUS STOPS IN THE BLAZING SUN WITH NO POWER LINES.
RETENTION PONDS, ACRES OF RETENTION PONDS, LIVE OAKS, NOT
ONE HAS BEEN PLANTED YET WE CAN SEE ALL THESE PLANTS FOR
PLANTING, BOTTLE BRUSHES AND CRAPE MYRTLE.
WE NEED TO ADD PRIMARILY TYPE ONE AND TWO TO REINFORCE THAT.
THERE'S ALSO A SECTION WHERE IT SAYS, WHERE IT ADDS THESE
GOOD ITEMS, BUT SAYS NOT LIMITED TO.
WE DON'T LIKE THAT LANGUAGE BECAUSE HONESTLY WE FEEL LIKE IT
NEEDS TO BE REINFORCED HOW THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED.

$151,000 OF THE FUND WAS USED TO COME UP WITH PLANS.
THE CODE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS THAT.
IT EXPRESSLY SAYS WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.
IT'S SOLELY FOR THE SELECTION, ACQUISITION, INSTALLATION AND
MAINTENANCE.
NOWHERE DOES THAT INCLUDE PLANS, YET THEY SPEND $151,000 FOR
PLANS.
IT DIDN'T COME TO YOU ALL.
YOU ALL DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHO APPROVED THAT TRANSFER OF MONEY
FOR PLANS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT PART OF THE TREE FUND.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THE FUND HAS TO BE A LITTLE STRONGER IN
EMPHASIZING THAT.
SO THE THING WHERE IT HAS A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE OKAY, BUT
IT SAYS "BUT NOT LIMITED TO."
BUT NOT LIMITED TO IS A GIANT HOLE THAT YOU CAN DRIVE A
SEMITRUCK THROUGH WHICH WILL END UP WITH FUNDS BEING SPENT
THAT YOU ALL NEVER EVEN KNOW ABOUT ON THINGS THAT IT
SHOULDN'T BE SPENT ON.
LASTLY, THE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS THE TREE TRUST FUND MAY BE
USED FOR FUNDING DEPARTMENT REQUESTS UPON CITY COUNCIL
MOTION AND APPROVAL, AGAIN, IT ENCOURAGES SPENDING IT ON
OTHER THINGS.
IT'S ALSO UNNECESSARY.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT POWER.

YOU CAN DO THAT ANYTIME YOU WANT. SO WE DON'T NEED TO PUT
IT IN THE TREE CODE TO ENCOURAGE THE INAPPROPRIATE
EXPENDITURE OF THE FUNDS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:24:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:24AM >> GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON SOUTH HOWARD TODAY.
11:24:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ME, TOO.
BRAD DIXON.
11:24:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH TAMPA FLOOD PROJECT.
I AM A RESIDENT OF VIRGINIA PARK FOR 17 YEARS.
I'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT
25 YEARS ON SOUTH TAMPA.
THE PLAN YOU'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS SIMPLY FINANCIALLY
DEVASTATING TO MY FELLOW HOSPITALITY WORKERS.
BEING WHERE I WORK AND WHERE I LIVE, I'VE SEEN WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE PLAN YOU'RE VOTING ON IS SIMPLY NOT FAIR.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN YOU SOME
ALTERNATIVES TODAY.
I HOPE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER THEM.
ON BEHALF OF ALL MY HOSPITALITY WORKERS, FRIENDS, UP AND
DOWN HOWARD, PLEASE VOTE NO TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:25:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
ED, FOLLOWED BY ALLISON.
NEXT THREE IN THE QUEUE, FRAN TATE, SHINA McCOY AND PAMELA
JACKSON HANEY.
IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
11:25:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I THINK IT'S MORNING.
EDWARD DE LA PARTE.
I REPRESENT THE SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY IS ABOUT THE
CONTRACT, THE GMP, THE CSX RAILROAD AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT
WILL HAVE.
TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CHAIRMAN ASKED, IS THE CITY PROTECTED
FROM CHANGE ORDERS?
THE CONTRACT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
IT ISN'T.
EXHIBIT E TO THE GMP EXCLUDES, IN HAD WRITING, CONTAMINATED
SOIL AND WATER, THE LAND AT PARKLAND ESTATES AND SWANN,
UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND THE AMI POND WORK THE PERMIT
REQUIRES.
THERE IS NOTHING PRICED IN THE GMP REGARDING SHORING OR
BRACING FOR THE EXCAVATION.
YOU HEARD FROM AN ENGINEER, MR. MILLBURG OVER HERE, 40 YEARS
OF EXPERIENCE, THAT IS GOING TO BE NECESSARY.
AND EVERY EXCLUSION THAT COMES BACK AS A CHANGE ORDER

CARRIES AN 8.5% FEE.
THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE UNDER THE EXECUTIVE
ORDER, 2023-7, IF THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE ORIGINAL
SOLICITATION IS DOUBLE OF WHAT IT WAS, AND THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY 65 MILLION, IF IT REACHES MORE THAN 130 MILLION,
THIS PROJECT HAS TO BE REPROCURED.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS PROJECT MIDWAY IN COMPLETION?
YOU HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE THE CHANGE ORDERS NOW HAVE CARRIED
IT ABOVE 130 MILLION AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND
RESOLICIT SOMEONE TO FINISH THE PROJECT.
THE NEXT THING IS THE CSX RAILROAD.
I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY THIS ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED.
ACCORDING TO OUR RECORDS, THE CITY STAFF NEW 17 MONTHS AGO
THAT THAT 5 BY 10 CULVERT WAS GOING TO BE INADEQUATE TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF THE PROJECT WHEN THEY SIZE THE PROJECT TO 10 BY
12 AND THEN LATER TO 10 BY 10.
THEY HAD 17 MONTHS TO GET SOME SORT OF APPROVAL FROM CSX.
NOW I HEAR THAT ON FRIDAY -- ON FRIDAY THEY GO AHEAD AND
APPLY FOR A PERMIT FOR CSX FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THAT WAS NOT A SURPRISE TO THEM.
THEY KNEW THAT WAS A PROBLEM.
THEIR CURRENT PLAN, ACCORDING TO OUR ENGINEER, DOES NOT MEET
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CSX, WHETHER IT IS THE EXCAVATION FOR
THE 10 BY 10 CULVERT OR WHETHER A 60-INCH MICROTUNNEL.
WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN IN TERMS OF THE LENGTH OF THE

PROJECT.
43 MONTHS IS WHAT THEY ARE ESTIMATING.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO REBID THE PROJECT AND YOU HAVE TO GO
AND FIX ALL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED, THAT'S
GOING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT 67 MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
THAT'S OVER FIVE YEARS.
THAT'S FIVE YEARS OF DAMAGE TO THE SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
THAT'S FIVE YEARS THAT PARKLAND IS NOT GOING TO GET RELIEF.
VOTE NO ON THE PROJECT.
11:28:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- FOLLOWED BY FRAN TATE.
AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE BREVITY SO WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE AND
HAVE LUNCH AND GET THROUGH WITH THE BUSINESS AND GET A VOTE
ON THIS.
11:28:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'LL TRY AND BE BRIEF.
ALISON DATE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TREE TRUST FUND.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
IN HERE, ACTUALLY ON THIS FORM, IT SAYS IT'S PROVIDING FOR
ANNUAL DISTRIBUTION OF THE TREE TRUST FUND MONIES FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THE TREE-MENDOUS TAMPA.
TREE TREE-MENDOUS TAMPA.
THAT'S ONLY ONE THING THAT THE FUND HAS BEEN USED FOR.
IF IT WAS ONLY USED FOR THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE AND MAKE ALL
YOUR JOBS VERY EASY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE MONEY IS NOT ONLY USED FOR THE ONE
PROJECT, IT'S USED FOR OTHER THINGS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AS CARROLL ANN MENTIONED,
AND OUR CANOPY WAS REDUCED IN THE 2022 URBAN REPORT TO 30%.
AND NOW WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER 5% THAT WE KNOW ABOUT
SINCE THE HURRICANES IN 2024.
SO WE ARE LOSING OUR CANOPY, AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE
MUCH LEFT.
WE NEED TO TRY AND DO EVERYTHING.
WE CAN SAVE IT AND THESE FUNDS ARE IMPORTANT FOR PROTECTING
IT.
AND THEY NEED TO BE LIMITED TO PLANTING, MAINTAINING, AND
MAINTAINING THE CANOPY.
NOT OTHER THINGS THAT THE CITY MIGHT NEED BECAUSE THEY DON'T
HAVE OTHER FUNDS.
I AM ASKING YOU TO BE SURE THAT YOU REMOVE THE WORDS AS
CARROLL ANN MENTIONED THAT IT NOT BE LIMITED TO SOMETHING OR
THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAN USE THE FUNDING THAT YOU DON'T
EVEN KNOW ABOUT.
I ALREADY SENT YOU AN E-MAIL ABOUT THAT, TOO.
SO THE FUNDS MAY BE USED FOR FUNDING DEPARTMENT REQUESTS,
BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT MEANT FOR SUBSIDIZING THE
DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS.
THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE INTENTION OF THE DOCUMENT.
SO, PLEASE, REMOVE THE WORDING FROM THE DOCUMENT SO THAT THE

FUND IS USED AS INTENDED TO PLANT AND MAINTAIN OUR CANOPY
BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOMEONE HAS A PHONE THAT KEEPS DINGING FOR
MESSAGES.
PLEASE MUTE THAT PHONE OR WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE.
11:31:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER PERSON AGAINST THE
PAUL.
PAMELA JACKSON HANEY, QUEUED UP AGAINST THE WALL.
IF YOU ARE IN THE ROOM OR DOWNSTAIRS, PLEASE COME TO COUNCIL
CHAMBERS.
JAIME JONES AND DANA JASPER.
JAIME JONES AND DANA JASPER, PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE
WALL.
FRAN, THANK YOU.
11:31:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM FRAN TATE, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT
OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, FOURTH YEAR
EAST TAMPA CRA COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER, RECENTLY
APPOINTED TO THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD.
ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
MY VOTER REGISTRATION CARD ALLOWS ME TO VOTE IN DISTRICTS
ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FIVE RACES.
11:32:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, THIS IS ABOUT ON-AGENDA ITEMS.

11:32:26AM >> AUGUST 10, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WHERE MR. CAMPBELL,
MOBILITY DIRECTOR PRESENTED THE STORMWATER BUDGET AND THE
PROJECTS, I NOTICED DISTRICT 5 EAST TAMPA STORMWATER PROJECT
ON BROADWAY AVENUE AND 56th STREET WAS CANCELED.
NO ONE NOTIFIED THE COMMUNITY.
OF THIS IN A TOWN HALL MEETING THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE
DURING A TUESDAY TOWN HALL MEETING THAT WAS RECENTLY
OCCURRING.
WE COULD HAVE APPLIED PRESSURE THEN.
MY QUESTIONS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, DO WE GET ANOTHER
PROJECT IN EAST TAMPA?
OR WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO?
NO ONE ANSWERED BECAUSE ALL OF YOU VOTED TO CANCEL THE
PROJECT AND ALLOCATE THE FUNDING TO THE SOUTH HOWARD
PROJECT.
WE'RE THE MOST UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY IN TAMPA, ALONG WITH
SULPHUR SPRINGS.
THIS IS UNFAIR.
FIND ANOTHER ROUTE TO ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING AND STOP
BLAMING THE LACK OF EASEMENT.
IT'S A PUBLIC AND SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE ON THAT
HIGHWAY, ON THAT STREET.
MOSQUITOES ARE OUT THERE BREEDING IN THE STANDING WATER.
THEY CAUSE DENGUE FEVER NOW.
ONE DEATH HAS ALREADY OCCURRED IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
DO THE RIGHT THING.
ENJOY YOUR DAY.
11:33:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, FRAN.
IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS ON FLOOR TWO, WE HAVE PLENTY OF
CAPACITY UP HERE.
COME UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR COUNCIL CHAMBERS PLEASE.
CLEAR SECURITY, IF YOU ARE WAITING TO SPEAK.
MS. McCOY FOLLOWED BY PAMELA JACKSON HANEY, FOLLOWED BY
JAIME JONES, FOLLOWED BY DANA CASPER.
JAMIE OR DANA IN THE ROOM?
VALERIE BULLOCK, IF YOU ARE DOWNSTAIRS, PLEASE COME UP.
SURGRET DOSS WILL BE AFTER THAT.
GO AHEAD, MS. McCOY.
11:34:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, AND HI, EVERYONE.
COUNCIL PEOPLE, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN.
11:34:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE.
11:34:38AM >> MY NAME IS McCOY.
I'M A RESIDENT HERE, MOM, HOMEOWNER IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, ALSO
SIT ON THE BOARD.
I'M COMMENTING ON LINES 66 THROUGH 68.
FIRST, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU COMMITTED TO BEING ON
THE FRONT LINE OF CHANGE.
AS YOU ADMITTED IN RESOLUTION 568.
YOU KNOW EAST TAMPA HAS A HIGHLY UNDERSERVED WE ALWAYS HERE

AREA AND YOU ALL COME TO US SOMETIMES WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
CHANGE.
AND TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN AN AREA THAT YOU KNOW IS
VERY UNDERDESERVED ANYWAY -- UNDERSERVED, I'M SORRY.
I WANT TO SAY, DO NOT TAKE OUR MONEY FROM OUR STORMWATER
FLOODING PROJECT AND GIVE IT TO SOUTH TAMPA AVENUE.
YOU ALL ARE WRONG FOR VOTING FOR THAT.
AS RESIDENTS, WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
2027 ELECTION WILL BE A RECORD-BREAKING TURNOUT.
EAST TAMPA, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OUTSTANDING ISSUES, THEY ARE
ALL FIGHTING, AND WE ALL COMING TO YOU ASKING FOR HELP, AND
YOU ALL ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MONEY TO HELP US.
WE WANT TO MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE HOPING YOU WILL STAND TO YOUR WORD AND MAKE A
DIFFERENCE.
YOU CAN REDEEM YOURSELVES IN A GOOD WAY, BUT WE DON'T WANT
ANY MORE GAS LIGHTING.
STOP BLAMING EASEMENT ISSUES AND THE LIKE.
WE PLAINLY JUST DON'T TAKE OUR MONEY AND GIVE IT TO SOUTH
TAMPA AVENUE.
DON'T THINK WE DON'T SEE YOU ALL PLAYING IN OUR FACES.
STOP IT.
WE WANT REAL CHANGE.
WE'RE HOLDING YOU ALL ACCOUNTABLE.
WE'RE WATCHING.

I IMPLORE YOU TO WATCH THE BEAUTY IN REAL COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
11:36:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PAMELA JACKSON, ARE YOU HERE?
PAMELA JACKSON HANEY.
GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, GONE.
JAIME JONES.
JAIME JONES.
IF YOU HEAR ME AND YOU COME INTO THE ROOM, PLEASE MAKE YOUR
PRESENCE KNOWN AND I'LL CALL YOU UP.
DANA JASPER.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE.
11:37:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
DANA JASPER.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.
I WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE ISSUE THAT HAS TO DO WITH COUNCIL IS
BEING ASKED TO APPROVE $92.7 MILLION CONTRACT WHILE ISSUES
REMAIN UNRESOLVED AT THE CSX RAILROAD CROSSING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CSX REQUIRES DESIGNS TO BE FAR ENOUGH
ALONG BEFORE IT WILL DO A PERMIT REVIEW.
LAST COUNCIL MEETING, JOHN ZEMINA FROM KIMMINS TOLD COUNCIL
OUR DESIGN IS READY TO GO TO THEM AND CSX REQUIRES 25,000 TO

BEGIN ITS REVIEW.
KIMMINS WAS AWARDED A $7.7 MILLION CONTRACT IN 2024 WITH
PERMITTING ASSISTANCE THAT INCLUDED SUBMITTING PERMIT
APPLICATIONS.
THE DESIGN FEES SPECIFY NEARLY 50,000 FOR PERMITTING
ASSISTANCE PLUS MORE THAN 1.8 MILLION IN ALLOWANCES AND
INCIDENTALS.
THE SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE SHOWS THAT PERMIT APPLICATIONS ARE TO
BE COMPLETE AT THE 60% DESIGN STAGE.
DESPITE THE DESIGN BEING READY TO GO AND DESPITE A CONTRACT
WITH FUNDS DESIGNATED FOR PERMIT APPLICATIONS, THE CSX
PERMIT APPLICATION APPARENTLY WAS ONLY TURNED IN LAST
FRIDAY.
COUNCIL, THIS IS MORE THAN A MINOR PERMITTING ISSUE.
IN 2024, FORMER DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY VICK BHIDE TOLD COUNCIL
THAT CSX COORDINATION IS A CRITICAL FACTOR AND WARNED IT
COULD DELAY ANY PROJECT BY SEVERAL YEARS AND IT HAS HAPPENED
BEFORE.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
ONE ADJUSTED APPROACH IS USE THE EXISTING SMALLER BOX
CULVERT AND ADD A MICROTUNNEL NEXT TO IT.
INFORMATION OBTAINED BY SUBPOENA INDICATES THE CULVERT HAS
HOLES IN THE SLABS AND GROUNDWATER IS FLOWING IN.
IT IS UNREALISTIC TO ASSUME CSX WILL APPROVE THE USE OF A
DAMAGED 50-YEAR-OLD CULVERT BENEATH ITS ACTIVE RAILROAD.

THE OTHER APPROACH IS OPEN-CUT CONSTRUCTION FOR A NEW LARGER
BOX CULVERT, WHICH COUNCIL WAS TOLD COULD SAVE APPROXIMATELY
$3 MILLION.
CSX SPECIFICATION MANUAL STATES THAT OPEN CUT IS NOT READILY
ACCEPTED PRACTICE.
PROCEEDING WITH CONSTRUCTION AT BAYSHORE AND MOVING TOWARD
THE RAILROAD CROSSING BEFORE KNOWING WHAT CSX MAY OR MAY NOT
ALLOW OR WHAT ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS IT MAY IMPOSE COULD
LITERALLY SEND THIS PROJECT OFF THE RAILS.
ON A CRAZY TRAIN.
COUNCIL NEEDS ANSWERS BEFORE COMMITTING $92.7 MILLION, NOT
AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.
I ASK COUNCIL TO DENY THE $92.7 MILLION CONTRACT.
THEY ALREADY APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT, BUT PLEASE, FIRST
DETERMINE WHAT CSX WILL OR WILL NOT ALLOW.
THEN BRING THE PROJECT BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE ANSWERS,
INCLUDING IMPACTS ON COST AND SCHEDULE.
THANK YOU.
11:40:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
VALERIE FOLLOWED BY SURGRET, FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA AND
CAL.
GOOD MORNING, VALERIE.
11:40:35AM >> HI.
VALERIE BULLOCK.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 16, THE SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTION.
$5.4 MILLION IT LOOK LIKE TO ME THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR
TPD TO REQUEST FOR SOFTWARE SUBSCRIPTION.
WHEN THEY ALREADY GET 60% OF THE BUDGET.
NUMBER 30, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY WANT TO PAY
ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS FOR ANOTHER STUDY.
EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY TO
HOMESTEAD TAXES GOING TO GO.
IS IT GOING TO PASS OR FAIL?
WE CONTINUE TO SPEND MILLION DOLLARS ON STUDIES.
CAN'T WE PUT SOME OF THAT STUFF ON PAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE US
GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOTTEN?
33, 34, 35, THAT'S WHERE THE CITY WANT TO HIRE OUTSIDE LEGAL
COUNSEL.
WE ALREADY HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL.
SO IF THE PEOPLE CAN'T DO THE JOB, WE MIGHT WANT TO HIRE
SOMEBODY ELSE.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT MAKES ME SO MAD.
THE CITY ALWAYS CRYING BROKE.
WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THIS OR CAN'T DO THAT PROJECT.
WE GOT TO DO JUST ONE PROJECT, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS
FRIVOLOUS SPENDING.
AND ON 67 THROUGH 69, PLEASE SAY NO TO THE HOWARD STREET
PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND WE LIVE IN AN iPhone WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING

IS ABOUT ME, ME, ME AND SELF.
THIS IS THE MOST SELFISH PROJECT THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
COULD EVER ENDEAVOR ON.
HOW CAN EVERYBODY ELSE FLOOD, WE HAVE TO SIT BACK BECAUSE
PARKLAND ESTATES, WE GOT TO STOP THE FLOODING RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY TO DO BUSINESS.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR PIPES ARE 75 YEARS OLD.
HAVE ANYBODY DID A STUDY ON THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA?
HOW OLD ARE MY PIPES?
THEY DO NEED FLOODING.
THEY DO NEED HELP, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE A
CASINO, ALL OR NOTHING.
WE HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT POLARIZES PEOPLE.
NUMBER 72, I SEE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, GOING
TO MEET WITH ABBYE FEELEY.
LET'S DO IT LIKE PARKLAND ESTATES.
LET'S GET ALL THE MONEY FROM THERE AND PUT IT INTO EAST
TAMPA.
BECAUSE WE NEED THE ECONOMIC ENGINE AND WE DON'T CARE ABOUT
THE OTHER SIDES OF TOWN EITHER.
11:43:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, VALERIE.
SURGRET FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA.
11:43:19AM >> SURGRET DOSS.
ARMY DISCHARGED, SERVICE CONNECTED, DISABLED AMERICAN

VETERAN, AND LITIGANT AGAINST THE CITY AND FORMER JUDGE IN A
CASE BEFORE THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
ITEMS 12, 13, 14, 16.
11:43:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU CAN ONLY GO TO THE ITEMS.
11:43:34AM >> WE'LL GET TO THAT AS WELL.
IT ACTUALLY COVERS THAT.
GO THROUGH THAT ALL THE TIME.
I'M NOT JUST TALKING TO THE COUNCIL.
TALK TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THE APATHETIC PEOPLE
OUT THERE.
WE'RE PAYING FOR SOFTWARE, 5.4 MILLION IN POLICE SOFTWARE
SUBSCRIPTIONS GOING ON THE BOOKS AS A DEBT UNDER THE
GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS.
THAT'S NOT NEW SPENDING.
YOU ALL KNOW THIS.
THAT IS THE CITY WRITING DOWN WHAT IT ALREADY PAYS EVERY
YEAR TO COLLECT AND STORE INFORMATION ON PEOPLE IN TAMPA.
PERSONALLY SPEAKING NOW, AND IT DOES TIE IN, FOR MY OWN
CASE, THAT SOFTWARE COLLECTED QUOTING AT ROUGHLY $10,000 TO
GET THEM BACK.
I'M ALREADY PAYING FOR THEM.
THERE IS A SPECIAL FEE.
BUT IF ACTUAL COST ALREADY PAID, SHOULDN'T PASS THEM BACK ON
TO ME.
DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.

THIS THING ABOUT $600,000 AT TPD, WHO OWNS THE DATA?
IT AIN'T YOU ALL.
IT'S US.
WHAT'S THE RETENTION SCHEDULE ON IT AND CAN A CITIZEN GET
THEIR OWN RECORDS OUT OF IT WITHOUT A FIVE-FIGURE BILL?
REMEMBER THAT NAME.
PELEGRINE.
ASK FOR NAME ANYWAY.
I'M TALKING TO THE HOOD.
600 BANDS FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
WHAT THE HELL AM I PAYING THE PEOPLE LITIGATING AGAINST ME
FOR RIGHT NOW.
600 -- ARE YOU SERIOUS?
DO THEY HELP US?
WHAT ARE THEY THERE TO DO?
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HOW THEY ARE
BILLING THE CITY AND TURNING BACK AROUND AND BILLING US.
THIS AGENDA WAS POSTED ONLINE.
TALKING TO THE APATHETIC ONES AND THE ONES LOUD ON SOCIAL
MEDIA, THE ONES REAL BRIGHT ABOUT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO
APPROACHING PEOPLE TO LOOK LIKE YOU AND THE PEOPLE WHO WON'T
NECESSARILY FIGHT BACK.
TIME TO STOP BEING LAZY.
TIME TO CONFRONT IN THE POSITIVE WAY YOUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS
BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR US.

I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHERE ALL THIS MONEY -- HOW
ALL THIS MONEY IS BEING ALLOCATED AND THE TAXPAYERS AREN'T
GETTING THE PROPER ANSWERS.
THAT BEING SAID AS ALWAYS IN CLOSING, SHOUT-OUT TO THE
GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY, THE
UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
11:46:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
BECAUSE THIS IS A NEWER TYPE OF PROCESS, I SAW ON THE
OFF-AGENDA ITEM SIGN-UP.
THAT'S ONLY CITY BUSINESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON -- I'M SAYING
IN THE NEXT ROUND.
I SAW YOU PUT SCOTUS, WHICH IS NOT CITY BUSINESS.
TARAH BLUMA, ARE YOU IN THE ROOM?
NO.
OKAY.
CAL.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:46:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, CAL HARRIS.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM THE OPERATING PARTNER AT THE LANDING
ON SOUTH HOWARD.
I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING WE RECOGNIZING THE FLOODING IN
SOUTH TAMPA AND IT'S REAL.
WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT FINDING A SOLUTION.
WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING THE CITY TO IGNORE THE RESIDENTS WHO

HAVE EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A SOLUTION THAT IS SOLVING ONE
SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT CREATE ANOTHER SERIOUS
PROBLEM.
WE DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THE BUSINESSES AND LIVELIHOOD OF
ANYONE ON HOWARD.
THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO IMPACT THE CORRIDOR FOR YEARS
AND THE CITY'S OWN PLANNING ACKNOWLEDGES PERIODS WHEN BOTH
LANES OF HOWARD MAY NEED TO BE COMPLETELY CLOSED.
FOR A RESTAURANT, ACCESS ISN'T A CONVENIENCE.
IT'S OUR LIFELINE.
PEOPLE SOMETIMES LOOK AT A RESTAURANT AND SEE A BUILDING,
DINING OR BUSINESS.
I SEE PEOPLE BEHIND IT.
SERVERS, BARTENDERS, COOKS, DISHWASHERS, MANAGERS, ALL THE
SUPPORT STAFF.
I KNOW THEIR NAMES, FAMILIES AND I KNOW THEY DEPEND ON US TO
PAY FOR THEIR RENT, MORTGAGES, GROCERIES AND TAKE CARE OF
THEIR CHILDREN.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MORE PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEM WORKING IN
THE BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN HOWARD AVENUE.
WE CAN PLAN AROUND CONSTRUCTION.
PLAN AROUND US INCONVENIENCE.
WORK WITH THE CITY THROUGH DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.
WHAT WE CANNOT PLAN AROUND US IS LOSING MEANINGFUL ACCESS TO

OUR FRONT DOORS FOR WEEKS AT A TIME.
SHUTTLE OR TEMPORARY WALKWAY MAY TEMPORARILY PROVIDE ACCESS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN CUSTOMERS STILL COME.
WHEN SALES DISAPPEAR, EVENTUALLY JOBS DISAPPEAR WITH THEM.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL BEFORE MOVING FORWARD, PLEASE
MAKE SURE THERE IS A PLAN THAT PROTECTS BOTH THE RESIDENTS
WHO NEED FLOOD RELIEF AND THE EMPLOYEES OF LOCAL BUSINESSES
ON HOWARD AVENUE.
TO THE GENTLEMAN WHO ASKED WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
CLOSING FOR RESTAURANT RENOVATION OR CLOSING BECAUSE OF THIS
PROJECT.
THE DIFFERENCE IS CONTROL AND DURATION.
A RENOVATION IS PLANNED BY THE BUSINESS, SCHEDULED DURING
LEAST DAMAGING TIME AND COMPLETED WITHIN A DEFINED PERIOD.
THIS PROJECT COULD DISRUPT THE ENTIRE HOWARD AVENUE CORRIDOR
FOR UP TO FOUR YEARS.
WE CANNOT HAVE THAT AND CONTROL THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:48:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LAST CALL FOR PAMELA JACKSON HANEY AND
JAIME JONES.
NOT HERE.
VERY GOOD.
MICHAEL SUAREZ ONLINE FOR ON AGENDA ITEM SPEAKER.
MICHAEL -- MATTHEW SUAREZ, PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MATTHEW, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:49:15AM >> MATTHEW SUAREZ.
JUST WANTED TO READ SOMETHING.
IT'S TITLED: IMPACT.
THE SOUTH HOWARD DISTRICT TOOK DECADES TO BUILD.
VOTE YES FOR MAYOR JANE CASTOR'S SOUTH HOWARD STORMWATER
PROJECT, AND YOU WILL SEE THIS DISTRICT FROM TINY POOL SHOPS
TO THE LEGACY OF BERT AND GERT, IT IS THE SOUTH HOWARD
OWNER, STAFF, RESIDENT, AND PATRON YOU WILL ULTIMATELY HURT.
FROM PARKLAND ESTATES TO PALMA CEIA PINES, FLOODING MUST
ADEQUATELY BE ADDRESSED.
BUT THIS PLAN BEFORE YOU WILL LEAVE THE DISTRICT OF SOUTH
HOWARD BOTH DEEPLY DISTRESSED AND ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED.
WITH MAYOR CASTOR REFUSING TO ASSESS THE PROJECT BUILT,
HUMAN AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS AND YOU CAST A VOTE FOR THIS
PROJECT WITHOUT THESE CRUCIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
ASK THE TINY TAP BARTENDER WHOSE TIPS WILL BE REDUCED NIGHT
AND DAY.
ASK THE SOHO SQUARE APARTMENT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO CARRY
GROCERIES FROM BLOCKS AWAY.
ASK THE MEMORY CARE PATIENT WHY THEY ARE STARTLED BY THE
CONSTANT POUNDING OF SHEET PILES DURING CONSTRUCTION.
ASK THE BERN'S STAFF WHERE THEY ARE TO PARK, WHEN THE
EPICUREAN PARKING GARAGE FACES A MORE THAN 60 DAY

OBSTRUCTION.
ASK THE LOBSTER FAMILY WHAT CONSTRUCTION VIBRATION WILL DO
TO THE WORLD'S LARGEST PRIVATE COLLECTION OF WINE.
ASK THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP HOW THE PURVEYOR IS TO
DELIVER AN INGREDIENT TO BE USED FOR THOSE WHO DINE.
ASK THE PIZZA DELIVERY DRIVER HOW TRADITIONAL SOUTH HOWARD
ROUTES ARE TO BE RUN.
ASK THE BELLA'S ITALIAN CAFE HOW THEIR VIEW FROM THE
RESTAURANT'S PATIO WILL BE WHEN SOIL IS BEING EXCAVATED BY
THE TON.
HAVE THESE AUDIENCES BEEN CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE MAYOR'S
PLAN?
HAVE THEY BEEN SPOKEN WITH ABOUT HER PROJECT'S ESTIMATED
FOUR-YEAR SPAN?
ARE THESE IMPACTS NOT BEING WEIGHED AGAINST THE PROJECT'S
CURRENT HUNDRED PLUS MILLION DOLLARS QUOTE?
ARE THE SEVEN OF YOU TAKING THESE IMPACTS INTO ACCOUNT
BEFORE CASTING YOUR FINAL VOTE?
THEREFORE, THE SOHO BUSINESS ALLIANCE STORMWATER DESIGN
ALTERNATIVE MUST BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED AS FOUR UNDERGROUND
VAULTS AND SIDE STREET CULVERT WILL ENSURE SOUTH HOWARD IS
SPARED AND NEIGHBORHOOD FLOOD RELIEF CAN BE DELIVERED.
AS THE VOTING MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, YOU MUST VOTE
NO TO THIS CASTOR STORMWATER CONTRACT.
AS MAYOR SHE HAS FAILED TO ASSESS THE COST OF SUCH NOTED

ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
THANK YOU.
MATTHEW SUAREZ.
11:52:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MATTHEW.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ON-AGENDA ITEMS TODAY.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
WE'LL WAIT FOR OUR CLERK OF THE COURT TO COME IN.
IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS 5 --
11:52:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 8.
11:52:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANY REQUESTS FROM PUBLIC FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE
MATTERS?
HEARING NONE, LET'S GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 11 AND 14
THROUGH 17.
11:52:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE 9 THROUGH 11 AND 14 THROUGH 17.
11:52:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM VIERA, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
11:52:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT A SEPARATE VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE THIS
IS FOR MORE CAMERAS.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING US NOT TO
APPROVE.
I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THIS GRANT.
I'M JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT.
THE CONTRACT COMES TO US IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS BUT I'LL VOTE
NO ON THIS AND VOTE NO ON THE CONTRACT.
I WANTED TO START BY VOTING NO.
11:53:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE BRING IT UP ON
THE AGENDA ITEM.
IT IS.
12 AND 13.
I DIDN'T ASK -- I JUST ASKED FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
NO, I DIDN'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT.
11:53:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO COME AND
ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THIS LATER?
11:53:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL PULL THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
IF YOU WOULD BE PREPARED TO COME IN AND DISCUSS 12 AND 13
WHEN APPROPRIATE ON THE AGENDA.
UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
THANK YOU.
I SEE OUR CLERK IS HERE.
CLERK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT ITEM 4, PLEASE?
11:53:56AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND CHAIR OR
CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
ITEM 4 IS APPOINTING PETER FERTIG.

HE IS THE ONLY APPLICANT FOR THE ARCHITECT MEMBER POSITION
FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
11:54:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
PETER, ARE YOU IN THE ROOM?
HI, PETER.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, COME TO THE PODIUM,
STATE YOUR NAME AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
11:54:38AM >> PETER FERTIG.
ALMOST GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
AFTER THIS MORNING, PUBLIC SERVICE DOESN'T SOUND AS
WONDERFUL AS I THOUGHT IT MIGHT OTHERWISE HAVE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT I AM STILL EXCITED AND AVAILABLE AND INTERESTED IN
PARTICIPATING ON THE BARRIO.
11:54:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST AS A RULE FROM NOW ON, I AM THE ONLY
ONE WHO CAN BE FUNNY.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PETER'S APPOINTMENT FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
MR. SHELBY.
11:55:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COULD YOU AMEND THAT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
MAKING THE APPOINTMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
THE CLERK HAS IT IN HER POSSESSION.
11:55:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION

MAKING THE APPOINTMENT FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CONGRATULATIONS.
WELCOME TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
WE'LL CONTINUE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH
26?
11:55:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 26.
11:55:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:55:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO APPROVE 27 THROUGH 31.
11:55:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 32 THROUGH 36.
11:55:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE ITEMS 32 THROUGH 36.
11:56:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU MOVE 37 THROUGH 42.
11:56:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, FIRST ABSTAIN ON 39.
MY COMPANY HAS A CLIENT THAT MAY BE TANGENTIALLY CONNECTED
BUT WE DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, FILE FORM 8B.
11:56:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
WOULD YOU MOVE 37, 38, 40 THROUGH 42.
11:56:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
11:56:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG WOULD YOU MOVE ITEM 39.
11:56:39AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
MOVE 39.

11:56:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE 39.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON ABSTAINING.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MOVE 43 THROUGH 50.
11:56:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
11:56:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:57:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE TO SET ITEM 51.
11:57:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM
51 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM 52 -- 52 IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
11:57:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:57:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
STAFF, 52.
11:57:34AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
PRESENTING FILE VAC-26-15 FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.
I HAVE PIZZA WAITING.
11:58:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FROM WHERE?
11:58:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:

[INDISCERNIBLE]
11:58:10AM >> IS THIS THE ONE NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACK?
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
WE'LL GIVE AWAY THIS HUGE SLICE OF LAND FOR $573 THAT THE
APPLICANT HAS ALREADY BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THE PICTURES.
WHY DOES THE APPLICANT GET TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN
GET TO BUY IT FOR $573?
WE HAVE GOT TO STOP GIVING AWAY CITY PROPERTY.
WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE PAYING LIKE
450,000, $600,000 FOR.

WE WILL OVERPAY EVERY SINGLE TIME, BUT YET WE'RE GIVING AWAY
THESE EASEMENTS, THESE RIGHT-OF-WAYS FOR $573.
WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THIS RAFTELIS REPORT AND GET IT FIXED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIALS INCLUDED WITH THE STAFF REPORT,
THEY SHOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY
ALREADY.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
I JUST GO AHEAD AND BUILD WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT ON MY
NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
11:59:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU PREPARED TO VOTE ON THIS?
IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE?
DO YOU WISH TO REBUT THAT?
11:59:20AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT.
I THINK SHE MAY BE REFERRING TO A VACATING ON DOWN THE
AGENDA LATER.
11:59:31AM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THAT WAS RELATED TO A SEPARATE PROJECT.
11:59:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT APPLICABLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
HEARING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS.
11:59:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 52, VAC-26-15, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED
NORTH OF 4th AVENUE, SOUTH OF 5th AVENUE, EAST OF 26th
STREET AND WEST OF 27th STREET AS DEDICATED BY THE PLAT OF
HARRIS TERMINALS AND THAT PORTION OF 1st AVENUE
RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF ADAMO DRIVE, SOUTH OF 2nd
AVENUE, EAST OF 27th STREET AND WEST OF LEE ROY SELMON
EXPRESSWAY CONNECTOR AS DEDICATED PARTIALLY BY THE PLATS OF
HARRIS TERMINALS AND ARCHER SUBDIVISION, ALL IN TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS.
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:00:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

12:00:52PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:00:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
QUESTION ON THE AGENDA.
12:00:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING IN JUST A
SECOND.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE NEXT HEARING, 53.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR NON-AGENDA ITEM BUT ONLY RELATED TO
TAMPA CITY BUSINESS PUBLIC COMMENT.
AFTER THAT WE'LL BREAK FOR A 30-MINUTE LUNCH.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS 54 OR BEYOND, THE 10:00 PUBLIC
HEARINGS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR THAT UNTIL WE COME BACK
FROM LUNCH.
SOMEWHERE AROUND PROBABLY 12:45 TO 1:00.
SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
ITEM NUMBER 53.
12:01:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, THANK YOU, SIR.
QUESTION, THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE IS THAT HEARD AFTER
LUNCH?
12:01:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WILL BE HEARD WHEN WE GET TO THAT
RIGHT BEFORE STAFF REPORTS.
12:01:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
12:01:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
CAN I INQUIRE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE LIST FOR OFF AGENDA
PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:01:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SEVEN.
12:01:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM BEFORE LUNCH PER

YOUR RULES.
12:01:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.
12:01:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M REAFFIRMING YOUR STATEMENT.
12:02:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
53, STAFF.
ITEM NUMBER 53, IS THERE STAFF TO PRESENT?
12:02:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE CAN HOLD THAT UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.
12:02:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SINCE STAFF IS NOT HERE TO HEAR THAT ONE,
WE'LL HOLD THAT UNTIL STAFF IS PRESENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS OFF AGENDA ITEMS FOR CITY BUSINESS ONLY.
YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT YOUR NAME ON THIS FORM.
I HAVE ONE ONLINE SPEAKER WE'LL HEAR AFTER THE PEOPLE
PRESENT.
NIKO BASIL.
FOLLOWED BY CAMILLE WASHINGTON.
ARE YOU IN THE HOUSE?
GO AHEAD.
COME ON UP.
THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL BE VICKY TONG.
JAMES ADAIR, ASHLEY MORROW, SURGRET DOSS.
IF I CALLED YOUR NAME, LINE UP AGAINST THE CALL.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:03:06PM >> MY NAME IS CAMILLE WASHINGTON.
GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS CAMILLE ADRIENNE WASHINGTON.

I AM STANDING HERE TODAY AS A RESIDENT OF SULPHUR SPRINGS.
I FIRST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR THE WORK DONE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND
STRENGTHENING OPPORTUNITIES AS THE CITY GROWS.
AS A RESIDENT, COMMUNITY ORGANIZER AND SMALL BUSINESS
ADVOCATE, I FIRSTHAND SEE THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS NOT ONLY ABSENCE OF
RESOURCES BUT SOMETIMES THE COMMUNITY'S ABILITY TO ACCESS
THEM.
BUSINESS OWNERS ARE WORKING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE GREAT IDEAS, PRODUCTS AND SERVICES BUT, OF COURSE,
A NEED FOR DIVERSIFIED CUSTOMERS AND CONTINUED GROWTH.
MANY DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ALL OFFER RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO
HELP THEM NAVIGATE THEIR SYSTEMS, WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO
POSITION THEMSELVES FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAMPA'S
GROWTH.
THAT'S WHY THIS YEAR IN 2026, I INTENTIONALLY BROUGHT BIG
FEST 2026 TO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THE NORTH TAMPA
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS A RESIDENT OF SULPHUR SPRINGS IT'S VERY HARD TO ACTIVATE
THAT COMMUNITY.
WE BROUGHT THE OPPORTUNITY DIRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITY.
BIG FEST ACTIVATED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BROUGHT TOGETHER
APPROXIMATELY 200 SMALL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS AND WE DID IT WITHOUT CHARGING THE BUSINESSES.

I SAY THAT AGAIN.
I AM ONE WOMAN WHO DID AN ENTIRE FESTIVAL WITHOUT CHARGING
OUR BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEN.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE BIG FEST WAS NEVER MEANT TO
BE THE END-ALL, BE-ALL.
WHEN THE TENTS CAME DOWN, WE ACTUALLY QUESTIONED HOW FAR AND
ADVANCED OUR BUSINESSES WOULD BE PREPARED FOR THE GROWTH OF
THE CITY.
FROM THAT, WITH OUR FESTIVAL, I RECRUITED MORE THAN A
HUNDRED SMALL BUSINESSES INTO OUR BIG ACCELERATE BUSINESS
PROGRAM.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS AGAIN POSITION BUSINESSES IN
UNDERSERVED AND UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES TO BE AVAILABLE
AND READY FOR GROWTH IN OUR BIG CITY.
NOW THAT WE ARE WORKING TO GET THE BUSINESSES PREPARED,
WHETHER THROUGH LICENSING, COMPLIANCE, CONNECTING THEM
RESOURCES ALREADY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY WE'RE POSITIONING
FOR CONTRACTS, COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES AND SUSTAINABLE
GROWTH.
AGAIN, KINDERGARTEN CAN BE HARD IF YOU DON'T ATTEND HEAD
START.
I CREATED A SYSTEM FOR HEAD START FOR BUSINESSES TO BE
CONNECTED BECAUSE TAMPA IS GROWING.
AND WE WANT OUR BUSINESSES TO BE READY FOR THAT GROWTH, NOT
WATCHING IT HAPPEN AROUND THEM.

TODAY, I'M ASKING THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH ME FOR BIG FEST
2027 AS WE BEGIN IN TWO VERY SPECIFIC WAYS.
FIRST, BY HELPING US CONTINUE DELIVERING WHAT BUSINESSES BY
CONNECTING THEM WITH OUR ACCELERATE PROGRAM, DIRECTLY TO
CITY DEPARTMENTS, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, PROCUREMENT OF
OPPORTUNITIES, CAPITAL RESOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.
SECOND, TO HELP US WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO
CONTINUE BIG FEST.
WE NEED HELP WITH COOLING TENTS, SHADING AREAS, HYDRATION
STATIONS, WATER, PORTABLE RESTROOMS AND SANITATION.
ALL OF THE THINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE CITY PARK, RIVER
TOWER PARK WHERE I WAS ABLE TO HOST THE FESTIVAL.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE ASKED OUR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT BUSINESSES TO
BE THERE AND THEY SHOWED UP.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE SUPPORT FROM THE CITY WAS NOT THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING TO NOT ONLY ACTIVATE IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT ALSO
TO ACCELERATE OUR PROGRAMS FOR LONG-TERM COMMUNITY
DESTINATION AND HOPEFULLY AN ANCHOR IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOU.
12:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NIKO.
ARE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE?
NIKO FOLLOWED BY VICKY, FOLLOWED BY JAMIE ADAIR.
START WITH YOUR NAME.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:06:19PM >> NIKO BASELY.
CURRENTLY A STUDENTS AT HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE, THE DALE MABRY
CAMPUS AS WELL AS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A PUBLIX CASHIER.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN TAMPA.
I'M HERE TODAY TO DEMAND THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PASS AN
ORDINANCE ENDING THE 287(g) AGREEMENT WITH THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT IS AN IRRESPONSIBLE USE OF OUR TAXPAYER
DOLLARS.
THIS AGREEMENT USES TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO TRAIN TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TACTICS,
EFFECTIVELY ALLOWING TPD TO ACT AS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
SO FAR, OVER 430,000 -- HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PUT INTO
TPD IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TRAINING.
NO TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO THIS
TRAINING TO BEGIN WITH.
MORE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY
SAFER.
IN 2025, THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT I.C.E. CAN RACIALLY
PROFILE CITIZENS.
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE NO PART IN THIS.
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT UNDER TRUMP LED TO A RAPID INCREASE
IN DEATHS BY HANDS OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT WITHIN

COMMUNITIES AND WITHIN THEIR INHUMANE DETENTION CENTERS.
IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
PERFORM IMMIGRATION FUNCTIONS, THE COMMUNITIES ARE LESS
INCLINED TO INTERACT WITH THEM.
THIS BECOMES AN ISSUE AFFECTING CRIME REPORTING AND WITNESS
COOPERATION.
JUST RECENTLY, THERE WAS AN IMMIGRATION ACTIVITY SURGE IN
LEE COUNTY, FORT MYERS, RESULTING IN OVER 500 ARRESTS IN
FOUR DAYS.
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT SURGES LIKE THIS LEAVE PEOPLE HIDING
OUT IN FEAR IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES.
PEOPLE MISS WORK, CHILDREN MISS SCHOOL, IT BREAKS MY HEART
AND SHOULD BREAK YOUR HEART, TOO.
EVER SINCE THE MURDERS OF RENEE GOOD AND ALEX PRETTY IN
MINNEAPOLIS, CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE BEEN DEMANDING
I.C.E. OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE DEMANDING THAT THEIR
CITIES STAND AGAINST THE RACIST, REPRESSIVE POLICIES OF
TRUMP AND HIS LACKEYS LIKE DESANTIS AND JANE CASTOR.
I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCILORS ACT IN THE
INTEREST OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY, TAKE A STAND
AGAINST TRUMP AND DESANTIS BY ENDING TAMPA 287(g)
AGREEMENT WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
12:08:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, NIKO.

VICKY, FOLLOWED BY JAMIE ADAIR, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY.
12:08:49PM >> HELLO.
VICKY TONG.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA IMMIGRANTS RIGHTS COMMITTEE.
I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PASS AN
ORDINANCE ENDING THE 287(g) AGREEMENT.
AS A TAMPA RESIDENT AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS PERSONALLY BEEN
IMPACTED BY I.C.E. DETENTIONS AND OPERATIONS, I DO NOT WANT
MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT USES TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO TRAIN THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ACT AS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
SO FAR $430,000 HAVE BEEN PUT TO TPD IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT
TRAINING.
SECOND, TAMPA IS HOME TO A SIGNIFICANT LATINO IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE SEEN IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS
ENFORCEMENT OR I.C.E. TARGETING THESE COMMUNITIES.
FROM OUR ORGANIZING EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE HEARD OF MULTIPLE
ENFORCEMENT AND DETAINING OPERATIONS ON FLETCHER, AN AREA
THAT IS MAJORITY LATINO AND IMMIGRANT BASED.
TPD SHOULD NOT BE COLLABORATING WITH THE AGENCIES TARGETING
OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.
ADDITIONALLY, MORE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT MAKE OUR
COMMUNITY SAFER AND ACTUALLY LEAVES IMMIGRANTS VULNERABLE TO
BEING RACIALLY PROFILED.
RECENT ENDING OF TEMPORARY PROTECTION FOR HAITIANS AND

POTENTIAL ENDING OF TPS FOR SALVADORANS MEANS MORE MEMBERS
OF COMMUNITY MAY BE SUBJECTED TO HARMFUL IMMIGRATION
TACTICS.
AGAIN, TPD SHOULD NOT PLAY ANY PART IN THIS.
I.C.E. ALSO SHAMEFULLY MURDERED IMMIGRANTS AND SUPPORTERS OF
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS, SUCH AS GONZALEZ, RENEE GOOD AND MANY
OTHERS.
CITY ALWAYS ACROSS THE COUNTRY INCLUDING HERE IN TAMPA ARE
TAKING A STAND AND DEMANDING THAT THE CITIES TAKE A STAND
AGAINST TRUMP'S ATTACKS ON IMMIGRANTS.
THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TODAY TO DEMAND THAT TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL ACT IN THE INTEREST OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND TAKE A
STAND AGAINST TRUMP AND DESANTIS BY PASSING AN ORDINANCE TO
END THE 287(g) AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU.
12:10:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JAMIE, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY SURGRET DOSS.
12:10:40PM >> JAMIE ADAIR, THE NEIGHBOR WHO CARES.
THE MAYOR DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
SHE ALMOST LOST HER JOB OVER IT.
LET'S BE FAIR, GUYS.
A LITTLE BIT AGO I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING PHONE
CALLS AND E-MAILS BACK FROM CITY EMPLOYEES.
I CAME UP WITH AN IDEA OF DOING THE NO CALLBACK BINGO.
I ANNOUNCED THAT, PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM.
THIS IS OUR FIRST NAME.
TARIQ IS IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AREA.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, HAS NOT RETURNED FIVE OF MY
COMMUNICATIONS.
SO MAYBE DURING LUNCH, COULD DO A WELLNESS CHECK TO SEE IF
HE'S STILL AROUND, THAT SORT OF THING, IT WOULD BE
APPRECIATED.
I'M WAITING FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR PLATT AND FOR THE
OTHER STREET EXPANSION COMING OFF DAVIS ISLAND, WORKING FOR
SOME ANSWERS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT'S NOT AND
WHAT'S DOABLE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES.
DON'T HAVE THEM GO AWAY.
SOMETHING.
NO CALL BACK BINGO.
12:11:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ASHLEY.
12:11:50PM >> I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL EVERY WEEK.
HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
THE WAY THIS IS RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS, I THINK YOU GUYS
ARE REAPPOINTING SOMEBODY TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
BOARD.

I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A SITE THAT I FOUND VERY
INTERESTING BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE HISTORY OF TAMPA'S
BLACK MEDICINE FIELD.
PULL THIS UP.
ANYBODY RECOGNIZE THIS BUILDING HERE?
IT WAS NEAR DOWNTOWN.
IF YOU KNOW WHERE THAT BURGER KING IS RIGHT BEHIND THE
BURGER KING, THIS IS WHERE THIS BUILDING WAS.
I THINK IT WAS YELLOW.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE JACKSON HOUSE, DON'T IT?
IT'S A BOARDING HOUSE.
12:12:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE A HOLE IN THE ROOF.
12:12:39PM >> RIGHT.
IT'S A BOARDING HOUSE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SMALLPOX SCARE IN 1899.
THERE IS A LOT OF BLACK HISTORY IN THE CITY.
IN THE SMALLPOX SCARE, THERE WERE THREE PHYSICIANS THAT WERE
ASSIGNED TO THE SCRUB AREA.
DR. CULP, DR. ANDERSON, AND DR. WEST.
THEY WERE ASSIGNED TO BASICALLY ADMINISTER THE VACCINE.
THEY WERE DEPUTIZED AND TOLD TO REPORT ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T
GET THEIR VACCINE.
THEY WERE LIKE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT THING.
HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CULP.
HE DID A PAMPHLET ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT VACCINES DO.

HE WAS HERE IN TAMPA.
DR. WEEDON WAS STATE BOARD, HE WAS REPRESENTING THE STATE
BOARD OF HEALTH AND HE APPOINTED DR. CULP TO ASSIST HIM WITH
VACCINATING THE NEGROES IN THE SCRUB AREA.
NOTICE THE CHURCH THEY WERE AT BEULAH BAPTIST CHURCH.
THE COLORED CHURCH HERE IN TAMPA.
WHY THIS HOUSE IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT WAS THE HOUSE OF
DR. WEST.
HE OWNED THIS HOUSE.
I THINK THAT LOOKING BACK IN OUR HISTORY, IF WE SEE THESE
SITES THAT USED TO BE CERTAIN THINGS.
MIND YOU, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A WHOLE MARKER AND CEREMONY.
IT'S GOOD FOR THE EDUCATION TO TAKE PLACE AND PEOPLE TO KNOW
ABOUT THAT SPACE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CLARA FRY IN THIS
STORY.
IN 1908, WHEN A WHITE PHYSICIAN, DR. WINTON, ASKED FRY TO
CARE FOR AN ILL BLACK PATIENT WHILE HE PREPARED TO PERFORM
SURGICAL OPERATION, SHE OFFERED HER MODEST THREE-ROOM HOUSE,
1615 LAMAR AVENUE.
YOU HEARD THE STORY ABOUT BEING CARED FOR ON THE KITCHEN
TABLE OR DINING TABLE.
INCONSISTENCIES.
1908.
THIS IS ON THE BUS PUT ON RIVERWALK.

IT WAS ACTUALLY 1907.
AND THEN ANOTHER STORY THAT IS KIND OF NOT SPOKEN ABOUT WAS
OUR GUY, THOMAS McKNIGHT.
I'LL GET INTO THAT NEXT, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW BECAUSE HE
ACTUALLY HAD AN EARLIER HOSPITAL THAN CLARA FRY.
THANK YOU.
12:14:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ALWAYS LEAVE US WANTING MORE.
SURGRET.
12:14:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT DR. WINSTON WAS A VERY FAMOUS
DOCTOR.
HE HAD HIS CLINIC, THE HOSPITAL, CENTRO ESPANOL BY THE
ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES IF I REMEMBER.
12:15:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. DOSS.
CITY OF TAMPA BUSINESS.
BRING IT HOME.
YOU ARE OUR LAST IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKER.
12:15:17PM >> THE FACT THAT I'M HERE MAKES IT CITY OF TAMPA BUSINESS
UNTIL WE GET SOME THINGS RESOLVED.
NOT JUST YOU ALL, AT HOME, STAY WITH MY NOTES.
MY CASE IS IN THE SUPREME COURT.
IT DOES INVOLVE THE CITY.
ME UNDERSTANDING AND LEARNING ABOUT THIS OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I
DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND.
IT'S PRESSING AND CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE MY CASE WE KNOW
STARTED HERE, STARTED FROM AN ARREST AT THE CITY'S POLICE

DEPARTMENT, ORCHESTRATED AGAINST ME THAT I SUCCESSFULLY
DEFENDED AGAINST WHEN I WAS CHARGED WITH PERJURING AN
OFFICIAL PROCEEDING BECAUSE THE POLICE DECIDED TO OPERATE
WITH THEM.
DON'T NEED TO LITIGATE THE CASE HERE.
GO TO THE SUPREME COURT COURSE 26-5074.
IT'S DISTRIBUTED TO BE HEARD ON THE 28th OF THIS MONTH.
WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE CASE, WHETHER OR NOT I CONTINUE TO
BRING ACTION TO THE CITY UNDER STATE LAW.
AGENDA ITEM 14 I THINK IT WAS, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION
DISPATCH.
CITY HAS $330,000 BUDGET OR MONEY ALLOCATED TO IT.
I WANT YOU ALL TO VOTE YES ON THAT.
12:16:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALREADY DID.
12:16:42PM >> OKAY.
COOL.
THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP, I'M A VETERAN.
HONORABLY DISCHARGED, OF COURSE, AND THE -- I WANT YOU ALL
TO SEE IF YOU CAN ADD A PROTOCOL IN THERE THAT ASKS WHOEVER
CALLS DISPATCH, WHOEVER IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, DID YOU SERVE?
VETERANS ARE TREMENDOUSLY -- I'M NOT COMBAT RELATED.
WE ALL HAD OUR SEPARATE MISSIONS.
WE'RE UNDERSERVED THROUGHOUT AMERICA AND NOW.
EVEN SOME OF THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OUT IN THEATER NOW ARE
NOT GETTING ADEQUATE TREATMENT OUT THERE.

WE ONLY GET ONE TRY.
GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING WHO WAS KILLED IN
ACTION YEARS AGO.
A COUPLE OF OTHER BUDDIES CAME BACK IN BOXES.
MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU CAN ALLOCATE TO THAT YOU DEFINITELY
DO.
EVERYBODY AT HOME 988 AND PRESS 1 IF YOU SERVED.
IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO HAS SERVED, GIVE THEM THE CRISIS
CENTER NUMBER SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THEY GET THE ATTENTION
THEY DESERVE.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NECESSARY.
AS TO THE MISTREATMENT OF ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY, I'M
WHOLLY AGAINST IT.
WHETHER IN DOLLARS BEING DEDICATED TO MISTREATMENT IS
SOMETHING I CAN NEVER STAND FOR.
I UNDERSTAND -- MY SERVICE TIME, DOESN'T END UNTIL THE
CASKET GOES IN THE GROUND.
THAT BEING SAID AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST
INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
12:18:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. DOSS.
THAT IS OUR LAST IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKER.
WE HAVE ONE ONLINE FOR OFF AGENDA ITEMS.
AGAIN, MICHAEL RANDOLPH, ABOUT CITY BUSINESS.
YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:18:33PM >> GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
WITH THE POSSIBLE REDUCTION IN CITY REVENUES, IF AMENDMENT 3
PASSES, THE CITY MUST FIND WAYS TO LOWER OPERATING COSTS BY
MAINTAINING AN IMPROVED SERVICE DELIVERY.
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OFFERS THE MOST EFFECTIVE PATHWAY
FORWARD.
A.I. CAN EVENTUALLY REDUCE CITY OPERATING COSTS BY 25 TO 45
PERCENT ACROSS MULTI-DEPARTMENTS, STAFF EFFICIENCY,
AUTOMATION, PROTECTIVE MAINTENANCE AND REDUCE OVERTIME.
THESE ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON CASE STUDY.
MOST CITIES BUDGET 60 TO 80 PERCENT -- A.I. DIRECTLY REDUCES
THESE COSTS BY AUTOMATING MANUAL TASKS, ACCELERATING THE
PROCESS AND FIGURING WORKFORCE EFFICIENCY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SAVINGS.
STAFF TIME AND LABOR EFFICIENCY.
BY USING A.I., WE'LL REDUCE 30 TO 60 PERCENT REDUCTION,
SAVINGS TO THE CITY OF 40 TO $70 MILLION.
CALL CENTERS AND 311.
60% REDUCTION, SAVING THE CITY 80 TO $12 MILLION.
PERMIT -- ENFORCEMENT.
10% FASTER PROCESS, 50% REDUCTION, SAVINGS TO THE CITY OF 15
MILLION TO 25 MILLION.
PREDICTIVE ROADS, UTILITIES, WATER.

40% -- SAVINGS OF 20 TO $35 MILLION.
SAVINGS TO THE CITY OF 5 TO 15 MILLION.
FINALLY, EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
25% FASTER RESPONSE AND 10 TO $18 MILLION.
THESE REALISTIC ANNUAL SAVINGS IS ANYWHERE FROM 100 MILLION
TO 175 MILLION.
OVER FIVE-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'S 500 MILLION TO 875
MILLION.
A.I. CAN BRING A REDUCTION SAVINGS TO THE CITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHAEL.
ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR AFTERNOON.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR THE DAY.
YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM 53 TO PRESENT?
WHY DON'T WE KNOCK THIS OUT BEFORE LUNCH.
ITEM 53, THEN WE'LL GO TO LUNCH AND BACK IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS
AT 1 P.M.
ITEM NUMBER 53.
12:21:23PM >> ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY MEGAN NEWCOMB.
HERE FOR SECOND READING ON ORDINANCE.
I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED, BUT I CAN ADDRESS ANY
QUESTIONS.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY MAKING SURE OUR CITY CODE CONFORMS WITH
THE PREEMPTION REQUIREMENT IN FLORIDA STATUTES RELATED TO
FIREARMS AND WEAPONS.

12:21:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WERE NOT HERE.
ARE YOU PREPARED TO VOTE?
12:21:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I HAD JUST LEFT THE ROOM BRIEFLY.
SO YES.
12:21:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 53, PLEASE.
12:22:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DAMN IT.
SURE.
I'M JOKING.
12:22:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID THAT REALLY DESERVE A DAMN IT?
ALL THE STUFF TODAY --
12:22:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
JOKING.
READ AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
OMITTING ANY REFERENCE TO FIREARMS IN DEFERENCE TO THE
PREEMPTION REQUIREMENT OF FLORIDA STATUTE 790.33, MAKING

REVISIONS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 14, OFFENSES,
REPEALING SECTION 14-111, CHAPTER 2 ADMINISTRATION, AMENDING
SECTION 2-404, CHAPTER 16, PARKS AND RECREATION, AMENDING
SECTION 16-21 OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
12:22:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
ONE MORE PERSON, PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
12:22:57PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES THE BUSINESS OF THE MORNING.
WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT 1:00 AND HEAR OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL
HEARINGS STARTING AT ITEM 54.
STAFF, IF YOU WOULD BE PREPARED TO PRESENT AT 1:00.
WE ARE AT LUNCH.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]
12:56:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:03:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:03:49PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
1:03:50PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
CLENDENIN?

1:03:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:03:52PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:03:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, AS DISCUSSED PRIOR TO LUNCH,
WE'LL PICK UP WITH ITEM 54.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE
REST OF THE AFTERNOON, THEY ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL WHICH
REQUIRES YOU TO BE SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS,
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
1:04:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 54, WHO IS PRESENTING?
1:04:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 54 IS REZ 26-08, PROPERTY AT 7700 WEST COURTNEY
CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW HOTEL,
RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY AND ALL CG USES.
THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

1:05:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
1:05:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CYNTHIA SPIDELL, BARBAS CRAMER, WEST
CLEVELAND STREET.
WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
1:05:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 54, PLEASE?
1:05:34PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ 26-08, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 7700 WEST COURTNEY CAMPBELL
CAUSEWAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY AND ALL CG
USES, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:05:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

1:06:06PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
VOTE.
1:06:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
1:06:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG MOVING THE
RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM 54.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
ITEM 55.
1:06:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 55 IS REZ 26-42.
THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE.
TOTAL OF 16 PARCELS.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO PDA PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
ALTERNATIVE.
THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL TYPES, ALL CI USES AND
RECYCLING MATERIALS AND GOODS.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
1:06:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
APPLICANT?
1:07:00PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE.
NOTHING TO ADD.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
1:07:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:07:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 26-42, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING A TOTAL
OF 16 PARCELS, CONSISTING OF PLUS OR MINUS 24.83 ACRES
LOCATED GENERALLY IN AN AREA BOUNDED TO THE NORTH BY CSX
RAILROAD, TO THE EAST BY THE SELMON CONNECTOR, TO THE SOUTH
BY STATE ROAD 60 EAST ADAMO DRIVE AND TO THE WEST BY NORTH
26th STREET PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IH INDUSTRIAL HEAVY TO PD-A, PLANNED

DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE, ALL RESIDENTIAL TYPES, ALL CI USES,
RECYCLING MATERIALS AND GOODS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:08:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION BY HURTAK.
SECOND BY MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:08:07PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA ABSENT AT
VOTE.
1:08:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 56.
1:08:13PM >>BRIA DIXON:
BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 56 IS REZ 26-48, THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 11607 AND 11613 NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE SALES AND LEASES AND MINOR AND
MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
CERTIFIED BY CITY CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
1:08:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
APPLICANT?
1:08:49PM >> YANCEY ABUTON WITH SPRING ENGINEERING.
OFFICES IN HOLIDAY, FLORIDA.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF
THERE ARE ANY.
1:08:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?

HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM
56.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE ABSENT DURING THE FIRST VOTE, ARE
YOU PREPARED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE AND ALSO 57?
1:09:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
[INAUDIBLE]
1:09:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ 56.
1:09:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
GENERAL VICINITY OF 11607 AND 11613 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI --
1:09:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:09:45PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:09:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM 57.
1:09:51PM >>BRIA DIXON:
BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
57 IS REZ 26-55.
THIS ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT

107 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL AND ALL
CG USES.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND CERTIFIED BY THE CITY CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
1:10:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
APPLICANT.
1:10:16PM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:10:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM 57?
YOU VOTED NO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:10:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE ITEM 57, FILE REZ 26-55, ORDINANCE
BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN

ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 107
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL, AND ALL CG USES,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:11:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:11:09PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND MIRANDA
VOTING NO.
1:11:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 58.
1:11:16PM >>BRIA DIXON:
BRIA DIXON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 58 IS REZ 26-67.
THIS IS AN ITEM FOR REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 2016 AND 2018 GRANT STREET.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO CG
COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:11:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 58?

MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ASK HE HAD FROM
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 58.
1:11:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 58, FILE REZ 26-67, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2016 AND 2018
GRANT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO CG, COMMERCIAL
GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:12:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:12:24PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:12:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 58 -- SORRY.
ITEM NUMBER 59.
WHERE ARE WE AT?
ITEM 59, I HAD TO ABSTAIN DUE TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATION.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO SUBMIT MY FORM 8B.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I'LL GIVE THE GAVEL TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:12:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STAFF FOR ITEM 59.
1:12:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 59 IS REZ 26-75, FOR THE PROPERTY AT 5250 EAST BROADWAY
AVENUE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW ALL COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE USES AND ACCESSORY OPEN STORAGE.
THIS IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE.
THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
1:13:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?
PETITIONER?
1:13:25PM >> DAVID SMITH WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER ON BEHALF OF THE
APPLICANT.
HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:13:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
1:13:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
1:13:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

IF COUNCILMAN VIERA COULD READ IT.
1:13:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
5250 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WAREHOUSE, ALL COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE CI
USES AND ACCESSORY OPEN STORAGE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
1:14:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:14:22PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN
ABSTAINING.
1:14:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 60.
1:14:29PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 60 IS REZ 26-77.
FOR THE PROPERTY AT 4001 NORTH RIVERSIDE DRIVE.
REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM SH-CG, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
GENERAL TO SH-PD, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS TO ALLOW A PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT
FACILITY.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE.

THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:14:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
WERE YOU SWORN IN?
[MICROPHONE NOT ON]
ANYBODY ELSE NOT SWORN IN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE
SWORN IN BY THE CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
1:15:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MEAGHAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
1:15:22PM >> MEAGHAN SMITH HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:15:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MEAGHAN
SMITH, HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK
TO THE ITEM?
SEEING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ITEM 60, PLEASE.
1:15:40PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE REZ-26-77, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001 NORTH RIVERSIDE DRIVE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-CG,

SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO SH-PD, SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PROFESSIONAL RESIDENTIAL
TREATMENT FACILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:16:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:16:20PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:16:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 61.
1:16:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 61 IS REZ 26-47 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1701 NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE AND 207 EAST 7TH AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL ALL CG USES.
RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY AND PARKING OFF-STREET
COMMERCIAL.
SITE PLAN REVISIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLANS HAVE BEEN
CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:16:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
1:16:58PM >> ALEX SCHALER, HUNDRED NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
1:17:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:17:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE REZ 26-47, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1701 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE AND 207
EAST 7TH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATIONS PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND RM-24
RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL ALL CG USES, RESIDENTIAL
MULTIPLE FAMILY AND PARKING OFF-STREET COMMERCIAL, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
1:17:55PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:17:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

1:17:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO MOVE RESOLUTION ASSOCIATED
WITH ITEM 61.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
62.
1:18:09PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 62 IS REZ 26-31 FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 106, 108,
110, AND 112 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE, 108 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE
UNIT 2, 2101, 2117 AND 2121 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 105 AND
107 NORTHWESTLAND AVENUE AND 2110 WEST NORTH A STREET.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PD TO PD TO ALLOW STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL MULTIPLE FAMILY AND ALL CG USES.
THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
COUNCIL, YOU MAY RECALL ON THIS ONE, THE APPLICANT DID AGREE
TO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
ALTHOUGH IT IS REQUIRED BY CODE, THE APPLICANT DID PUT A
NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING
COMMITTING TO DO SO.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING AS A PART OF THEIR
BONUS AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
SO THE BONUS AGREEMENT DID NOT HAVE TO BE AMENDED.

WITH THAT, THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I'M AVAILABLE
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:19:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
1:19:20PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
COLIN RICE FOR THE APPLICANT.
WEST CASS.
JOINED TODAY BY DYLAN FROM SUBTEXT.
I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THIS PROJECT HAS EVOLVED FROM
FIRST READING AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AS LaCHONE MENTIONED, ALL REVISIONS REQUIRED IN THE
REVISION SHEET, AMENDED REVISION SHEET HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE HAVE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT CAME UP
FROM CITY COUNCIL DURING FIRST READING.
I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES.
WE'RE BOTH PROVIDING 10% AS AFFORDABLE.
WE ARE COMMITTING TO THE UNDERGROUNDING, AND WE ARE
COMMITTING TO ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTINGS, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU
LATER.
WE EVEN ADDED A CONDITION WHEREIN AT THE TIME OF THE
SPECIFIC UNDERGROUNDING, IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR
ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTING, WE RESERVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO
MAXIMIZE THAT.

THE HEIGHT HAS BEEN REDUCED ON THE PLAN TO 75 FEET.
TOP OF STRUCTURE IS REALLY ABOUT 70.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT LOADING BERTHS.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
INITIALLY WE THOUGHT, WELL, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY ALONG
WESTLAND.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE TREE CANOPY.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR ENGINEERS TO CONVERT BACK OF
HOUSE SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE TWO ADDITIONAL LOADING BERTHS
THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE AMAZON-STYLE DELIVERY TRUCKS.
THIS IS ON THE PLAN.
OUR ENGINEERS EVEN RAN AN AUTO TURN TO SHOW THAT THE
MANEUVERABILITY WORKS.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL, NOTE 18 DOES PROVIDE THAT
THE TRASH AREA IN COORDINATION WITH TRASH PICKUP WHEN IT IS
NOT BEING USED FOR TRASH, THAT'S LOADING AS WELL.
WE HAVE THREE OPPORTUNITIES NOW FOR AMAZON-STYLE AND OTHER
LOADING DELIVERIES.
TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE ENTRANCE AND COMPACTOR WOULD LOOK FROM
WESTLAND, 16-FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT.
INGRESS, EGRESS, COMPACTOR IS CLOSED APART FROM USE OR
COLLECTION.
THE TREE CANOPY HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY IN WAYS WE'RE HAPPY
ABOUT.

UNDERGROUNDING, WHERE THINGS END UP, WE'LL WORK WITH STAFF
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE
UNDERGROUNDING.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING 20 ADDITIONAL PERIMETER TREES.
THE ELEVATION AGAIN IS SHOWING STRUCTURAL HEIGHT ABOUT 70,
NOT TO EXCEED 75.
SOME ADDITIONAL RENDERINGS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT
THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, CONTIGUOUS COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL FRONTAGE ALONG
KENNEDY.
THIS IS WESTLAND.
JUST A CLOSE-UP OF THE RETAIL CONCEPT.
WITH THAT, I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK STAFF,
LaCHONE, CHRIS AND KATE HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH
THROUGH WHAT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS HERE.
WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT WHERE IT HAS ARRIVED.
WE HAVE CONSISTENT FINDINGS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION FROM
EVERY REVIEWING AGENCY.
TO REMIND, AGAIN, THIS IS AN EVOLUTION OF APPROVED PROJECT
THAT WAS TALLER, THAT WASN'T AS SAFE, WASN'T AS CONTIGUOUS,
WASN'T AS COHESIVE.
WE DO WANT TO FINISH BY THANKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL OF
THEIR TIME, INVESTMENT, AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH US, WHICH
REMAIN ONGOING AND WILL REMAIN ONGOING PAST TODAY.
WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IN LARGE PART DUE TO THEIR

CONTRIBUTIONS.
WE APPRECIATE THEIR FEEDBACK.
PROBABLY WON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING AS YOU'LL HEAR BUT REALLY
PROUD OF THE PROJECT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
TODAY.
1:23:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE
UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES.
I WISH MORE DEVELOPERS WOULD COME THROUGH ON -- UNDERGROUND
UTILITIES, I THINK YOU'LL GET A LOT MORE COURTESIES FROM
THIS COUNCIL.
IT PROVIDES SO MANY BENEFITS TO THE CITY.
1:23:43PM >> I'LL SUBMIT THESE FOR THE RECORD.
1:23:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS GOING TO ECHO THE SAME THING.
HE DID A MARVELOUS JOB IN DOING THE RIGHT THING.
1:23:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE -- I KNOW SOMEBODY IS
ONLINE -- ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM?
I'LL RECOGNIZE THE ONLINE SPEAKER NICOLE BECAUSE I BELIEVE
YOU MAY BE TRAVELING, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
1:24:07PM >> YES, I'M IN GREECE AT THE MOMENT.
1:24:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WERE YOU SWORN IN?
1:24:11PM >> NO.
1:24:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PLEASE AND

BE SWORN IN BY THE.
1:24:15PM >>THE CLERK:
CLERK DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY
YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
TRUTH?
1:24:21PM >> YES.
1:24:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NICOLE, GO AHEAD.
1:24:24PM >> ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN.
1:24:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN, YES.
1:24:39PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M NICOLE, PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC
ASSOCIATION.
WE SUPPORTED THE 2022 VERSION OF THIS PROJECT, BUT WE CANNOT
SUPPORT THIS REVISED PROPOSAL AND WE URGE YOU TO DENY THIS
REZONING.
WE SUPPORT GROWTH THAT STRENGTHENS OUR CONTEXT SENSITIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD BY PRESERVING SHADE TREES, PROVIDING ADEQUATE
ON-SITE PARKING AND FUNCTIONAL LOADING BAYS AND RESPECTING
THE AREA'S SCALE AND CHARACTER.
THE BEAUTIFUL MATURE TREE CANOPY SHOWN HERE ALONG NORTH B IS
WHAT WE WANT THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE MUST PROTECT
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSET.
THIS PHOTOGRAPH SHOWS WHY MATURE CANOPY MATTERS.
REPLACEMENT TREES CANNOT PROVIDE THE SAME SHADE BENEFITS
TODAY.

THE PROPOSAL REMOVES ALL 28 TREES, INCLUDING 14 TYPE ONE
TREES AND A HEALTHY GRAND OAK.
REQUIRE PRESERVING THE GRAND OAK AND MAKE THE GREEN SPACE
CENTERPIECE AND MAKE PLANTING REPLACEMENTS ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY, NOT ALONG THE KENNEDY SIDEWALK OR IN THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THE 2022 MASSING COMPARISON SHOWS THAT THE SITE CAN BE
REDESIGNED AROUND THE GRAND OAK.
DEVELOPER PROFIT SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF A LASTING
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSET.
NEARBY PROJECTS SET A STRONG STANDARD.
ROME PRESERVED TREES IN THEIR PARKING LOT AND CREATED A
NEIGHBORHOOD POCKET PARK.
TAMPA GENERAL APPLIED THE KENNEDY OVERLAY WITH 10-FOOT
SIDEWALKS AND SHADE TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND LOCAL
TAMPA SHOULD DO THE SAME.
FUNCTIONAL LOADING BAYS IMPROVE SAFETY AND KEEP TRAVEL LANES
CLEAR.
WITHOUT THEM, MOVE-INS, RIDE SHARE PICKUPS AND DELIVERIES
USE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AND CREATE DAILY CONFLICTS.
RESTAURANT DELIVERIES NEED CONVENIENT ON-SITE SPACES.
WITHOUT THEM, PRIVATE OPERATIONS SPILL INTO THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY AS SHOWN HERE AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD NOT BEAR
THAT BURDEN.
NORTH HYDE PARK ALREADY ACCOMMODATES DENSITY.

FIVE OF THE SIX NEARBY EXAMPLES ARE FOUR-STORY APARTMENT
BUILDINGS THAT ADD HOUSING WHILE RESPECTING ADJACENT
RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THE ONE THAT IS FIVE STORIES IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL
AREAS.
LOCAL TAMPA BREAKS THAT PATTERN BY PLACING SIX STORIES ASIDE
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OF THREE STORIES OR FEWER.
REQUIRE A FOUR-STORY STEP-DOWN ON NORTH A. OUR REQUESTS ARE
SPECIFIC AND REASONABLE AS LISTED HERE.
THE LOCAL TAMPA DESIGN PRIORITIZES PROFIT OVER NEIGHBORHOOD
COMPATIBILITY.
THE BUILDING SHOULD RISE ALONG KENNEDY, STEP DOWN TO FOUR
STORIES NEAR RESIDENCES, AND PRESERVE THE GRAND OAK AS THE
GREENSPACE CENTER PIECE.
THIS PROJECT CAN BE IMPROVED.
DO NOT CAUSE LASTING HARM AND A DAMAGING PRECEDENT.
PLEASE OPPOSE THIS REZ 26-31.
THANK YOU.
1:27:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IN PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
1:27:49PM >> CARLOS RAMIREZ, NORTH HYDE PARK.
I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS
ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I'M HERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY FOR THIS

DEVELOPMENT WAS BASED ON A 1% GROWTH RATE.
THAT NUMBER MATTERS.
IT AFFECTS HOW MUCH CONGESTION WE PREDICT.
HOW SAFE INTERSECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE AND TRAFFIC
IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
CITY PROVIDED THE ENGINEER THE 1% GROWTH RATE BECAUSE TWO
TRAFFIC COUNTS TAKING THREE YEARS APART LOOK SIMILAR.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT SEEMS REASONABLE BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN IN
SIMPLE TERMS WHY THAT APPROACH DOESN'T TELL THE FULL STORY.
TURNING MOVEMENT COUNT IS ONE SNAPSHOT OF ONE DAY.
LIKE CHECKING TRAFFIC AT 5 P.M. ON TUESDAY AND EXPECTING THE
REST OF THE YEAR TO BE SAME.
DOESN'T SHOW LONG-TERM GROWTH, SEASONAL CHANGES.
TO UNDERSTAND LONG-TERM GROWTH, WE USE F.D.O.T. AVERAGE
ANNUAL DAILY TRAFFIC.
SAME DATA USED FOR PLANNING, SAFETY STUDIES AND
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
IT'S COLLECTED YEAR-ROUND AND ADJUSTED TO REFLECT REAL
CONDITIONS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, IT TELLS A DIFFERENT STORY.
YOU CAN SEE ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TRAFFIC HAS GROWN 3.4
PERCENT EVERY YEAR.
ON HOWARD, THE ANNUAL GROWTH RATE IS 5%.
THESE ARE NOT ESTIMATES.
THESE ARE MEASURED DOCUMENTED NUMBERS COLLECTED BY F.D.O.T.

IF WE USE A GROWTH RATE TOO LOW, THE STUDY WILL
UNDERESTIMATE FUTURE TRAFFIC.
THAT MEANS WE UNDERESTIMATE CONGESTION, SAFETY IMPACTS AND
NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS.
I WANT TO SHIFT OVER TO PARKING SINCE IT IS CONNECTED TO THE
TRAFFIC GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN 2022, THIS PROJECT WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 452 PARKING
SPACES.
SINCE THEN, THE DEVELOPER HAS INCREASED THE RESIDENTIAL
DENSITY BUT YET REDUCED THE REQUIRED PARKING.
EVERY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT I'VE REVIEWED USES SECTION 7,
RESIDENTIAL USES FOR PARKING CARD.
THAT IS THE SECTION DESIGNED FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND
IT IS A SECTION THIS PROJECT USED IN 2022.
THIS YEAR, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS USING A DIFFERENT USE,
STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS USUALLY LISTED UNDER OFFICE
SPACES.
NO GUEST PARKING, NO MATTER HOW MANY BEDROOMS IN THE UNIT.
OFFICE SECTION THEY SELECTED IS INTENDED FOR BUILDINGS WHOSE
PRIMARY USE IS OFFICE COMMERCIAL AND SECONDARY USE IS
RESIDENTIAL, NOT HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
IN 2022, THE PARKING TABLE MADE SENSE.
BEDROOM COUNT, GUEST SPACES AND NEIGHBORS SUPPORTED IT
BECAUSE IT WAS TAKING TRAFFIC OFF THE STREETS AND CONGESTION
ALREADY EXPERIENCING.

UNDER NEW INTERPRETATION, THERE IS NO GUEST PARKING
REQUIREMENT.
RESIDENT LEASES DO NOT INCLUDE THE PARKING SPACE.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET A PARKING SPACE AND FIND SPACES IN
THE STREET TO PARK.
WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM IN NORTH HYDE PARK AND THIS WILL
MAKE IT WORSE.
512 BEDROOMS AND EMPLOYEE AND VISITORS FOR THE RETAIL AND
RESTAURANT THEY ARE PLANNING, WE THINK A BETTER PARKING
SOLUTION IS NEEDED.
MY REQUEST IS TO DENY THIS REZONING, NOT STOPPING
DEVELOPMENT BUT ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS
AND COME UP WITH THE RIGHT PLAN.
THANK YOU.
1:30:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CARROLL ANN.
1:31:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM, MR. CHAIRMAN.
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE BY RAISING YOUR HAND OR
SAYING SOMETHING SO I KNOW YOU ARE HERE.
SARAH GARCIA.
THANK YOU.
MOLINA MOLAY.
THANK YOU.
ANA.
THANK YOU.
BETH COTTER.

COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING.
1:31:50PM >> SHE MAY NOT BE HERE.
1:31:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OKAY.
I'LL TAKE BETH COTTER'S NAME OUT OF THE LIST.
MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
THANK YOU.
JAMIE ADAIR.
THANK YOU.
ALISON DATE.
THANK YOU.
PAMELA JACKSON.
THANK YOU.
SEVEN FOR A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
1:32:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES.
1:32:21PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
A LITTLE HISTORY.
IN 2022, THIS PROPERTY WAS DIVIDED IN HALF WITH AN ALLEY.
THE KENNEDY BOULEVARD HALF WAS UMU.
THIS DEVELOPER GOT A PLAN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE NORTH HALF
TO UMU.
STEPHEN BENSON FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BECAUSE ALL OF KENNEDY
IS UMU BUT NONE OF NORTH A IS UMU.
I QUOTE: STEPHEN BENSON, CITY PLANNING.
I WANT TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO OUR OBJECTION.

THE UMU IS PRIMARILY ALONG KENNEDY, SO IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY
GO BEYOND THE ALLEY THAT RUNS BETWEEN KENNEDY AND NORTH A.
IT DOES NOT PENETRATE NORTH OF THE ALLEY IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS WOULD BE INTRODUCING THE UMU FURTHER INTO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD THAN WHAT EXISTS NOW.
THAT WAS THE BASIS OF OUR OBJECTION.
WE ARE CITING LAND USE POLICY 9.6.4 WHICH SEEKS TO ENSURE
THAT ADEQUATE HOUSING IS BALANCED WITH THE EQUALLY IMPORTANT
OBJECTIVE OF ENSURING THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE
WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
DESPITE STEPHEN'S OBJECTION, IT WAS PASSED, ALONG WITH
VACATING THE ALLEY AND APPROVING THE REZONING ALL ON THE
SAME NIGHT.
IT PASSED BECAUSE THE PD SHOWED A STEP DOWN OF FOUR STORIES
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON NORTH A STREET.
NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT WAS BASED ON THAT PROMISE.
IT WAS A DEAL BREAKER FOR THEM.
THEY WERE ALSO PROMISED A DOG PARK AND FREE GARAGE PARKING
WHICH THEY WERE TOLD WOULD SOLVE EXISTING PARKING PROBLEMS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WATCHED ALL THE MEETINGS.
DAVID SINGER SAID, WE DESIGNED A DOG PARK AND 10-FOOT
SIDEWALKS.
WE MAXIMIZED HEIGHT ON KENNEDY WHERE IT BELONGS.
WE TAPERED HEIGHTS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, DESIGNED A

STEP-DOWN, A SIGNIFICANT STEP-DOWN, A MAJOR STEP-DOWN.
THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORS' QUOTES FROM THE MEETING.
THEY ARE GOING TO FIX THE PARKING PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD OVER
THE YEARS FROM PROJECTS WITH NOT ENOUGH PARKING.
PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET.
EVERYBODY IS PARKING EVERYWHERE.
YOU CAN'T GET TO YOUR MAILBOX, BUT THIS HAS PARKING FOR
EVERYBODY, INCLUDING GUESTS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
THEY WILL ELIMINATE THAT.
AND A DOGGY PLACE, A PLACE TO BRING ALL OUR DOGS.
KENNEDY FLOODS.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE STORM DRAINS TO TAKE THAT OFF THE
STREET.
THE DEVELOPER HAS RENEGED ON THEIR PROMISES.
WHY?
THIS IS WHY.
THE THEME OF THIS PROJECT IS CUTTING CORNERS TO INCREASE
PROFITS.
WHEN THERE IS A WAIVER TO MOVE A GRAND TREE, THEY WOULD HAVE
TO SHOW HOW TO RECONFIGURE THE SITE PLAN TO SAVE THE TREE.
THIS IS FROM 2022.
THIS SHOWS THEIR BUILDING WITH THE AREA AFFECTED BY THE TREE
IN LIGHT BLUE.
HERE IS THE STEP-DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

HERE IS THE CUT-OUT FOR JERSEY MIKES.
THIS SHOWS EVERYTHING IN BLUE ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR IS TYPE
THREE CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
TYPE THREE CONSTRUCTION USES CHEAPER, COMBUSTIBLE MATERIALS
LIKE WOOD.
IT IS ONLY ALLOWED IN SHORTER BUILDINGS.
TALLER BUILDINGS MUST USE TYPE ONE, NONCOMBUSTIBLE THINGS
LIKE STEEL AND MASONRY.
IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
EVERY TALL BUILDING BUILT IN TAMPA IS USING TYPE ONE FIRE
RESISTANT CONSTRUCTION.
KENNEDY BOULEVARD OVERLAY IS SUPPOSED TO ACTIVATE HEIGHT ON
KENNEDY WITH A STEP-DOWN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UMU IS TYPICALLY TEN STORIES.
SO WHY ARE THEY BUILDING SHORTER THAN THE TYPICAL UMU
BUILDING?
BECAUSE THEY'LL MAKE MORE MONEY WITH CHEAPER CONSTRUCTION.
IN 2022, THEY PROVED THEY COULD SAVE THE TREE AND HAVE FOUR
FLOORS ON NORTH A STREET EVEN WITH JERSEY MIKES.
THIS IS THEIR OWN RENDERING IN 2022 THAT SHOWS GOING TO NINE
FLOORS WOULD SAVE THE GRAND TREE AND KEEP A STEP DOWN TO THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHY NOT DO IT?
BECAUSE NOW IT'S SOLID RED, THE SAFER, MORE EXPENSIVE TYPE

ONE CONSTRUCTION.
AND THERE IS THE RUB.
THEY WANT TO BUILD AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE.
THIS IS TODAY'S PROJECT WITH THE CHEAPER TYPE THREE
CONSTRUCTION.
AGAIN, THE LIGHT BLUE IS FOR THE TREE.
THIS CLEAR AREA RIGHT HERE IS FOR THE POOL.
EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE MORE LAND WITH JERSEY MIKES GONE, THEY
STILL WANT REDUCED LOADING BERTHS, ARE KILLING A GRAND OAK,
HAVE REMOVED THE STEP-DOWN, REMOVED THE DOG PARK, WILL ONLY
BUILD FAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ARE VIOLATING THE OVERLAY
JUST SO THEY CAN BUILD SHORTER AND CHEAPER.
THAT'S WHY THEY WON'T MAXIMIZE HEIGHT ON KENNEDY.
AND THEY ARE NOW CHARGING TENANTS EXTRA IF THEY WANT TO PARK
IN THE GARAGE.
TENANTS CAN SAVE MONEY BY OPTING OUT OF RENTING A PARKING
SPACE.
THEN THEY WILL CRUISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING FOR A PLACE
TO PARK.
THIS IS ONE OF THE TREE RECONFIGURATIONS FROM TODAY'S
PROJECT.
HERE IS THE CUTOUT FOR THE TREE AND THE POOL.
IT'S NOT -- I'M SORRY.
WHERE AM I?
IT'S EIGHT FLOORS TYPE ONE, NONCOMBUSTIBLE MATERIAL.

THIS IS THE SECOND RECONFIGURATION.
IT'S NINE FLOORS, WHICH IS STILL SHORTER ON KENNEDY THAN
TYPICAL IN UMU.
LOOK.
VOILA.
THEY CAN SAVE THE TREE AND ACTUALLY HAVE GROUND LEVEL ON
NORTH A WITH NINE STORIES.
IMAGINE WHAT THEY COULD DO IF THERE WERE TEN STORIES ON
KENNEDY, WHICH IS WHAT THEY SHOULD BUILD.
THAT'S THE KENNEDY OVERLAY VISION.
THAT'S WHY KENNEDY IS UMU 60.
BUT IF THEY ALSO BUILT FOUR ADDITIONAL FLOORS ON NORTH A
LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, THEY'D HAVE SO MUCH SPACE THEY
WOULDN'T NEED ANY WAIVERS.
THEY WOULDN'T VIOLATE THE OVERLAY OR THE COMP PLAN OR THE
CODE.
THE ONLY REASON THEY NEED FIVE WAIVERS IS BECAUSE THEY WANT
THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WITHOUT HEIGHT SO THEY CAN USE A CHEAPER
CONSTRUCTION STANDARD.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, BELIEVE THEM.
THIS IS FROM THEIR EXCUSE DOCUMENT FOR REMOVING THE GRAND
TREE.
IMPACT SUMMARY.
PRESERVING THE GRAND TREE WOULD RENDER THE PROPOSED
DEVELOPMENT INFEASIBLE.

SPECIFICALLY WOULD RESULT IN CONVERTING THE ENTIRE BUILDING
TO TYPE 1A CONSTRUCTION WHICH CARRIES DISPROPORTIONATELY
HIGHER COSTS.
IF THEY WEREN'T TRYING TO BUILD ON THE CHEAP, THEY COULD
STILL HAVE ALL THE DENSITY AND CITIZENS COULD ALSO HAVE
TREES, PARKING, HEIGHT COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD, A DOG PARK, WIDE SIDEWALKS ON KENNEDY, AND
REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD OF WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS AS
FAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT THEY WANT THEIR CAKE AND TO EAT IT, TOO.
THE KENNEDY OVERLAY DEMANDS SHADE AND WIDE SIDEWALKS TO
PROMOTE WALKABILITY.
IT REQUIRES STREET TREES AND THEY MUST BE PLANTED ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY.
THEY ARE VIOLATING THE KENNEDY OVERLAY WITH A WAIVER TO
PLANT THE TREES ON THE SIDEWALK WHICH IS THE CITY'S
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THIS REDUCES THE CONCRETE PART OF THE SIDEWALK TO ONLY FIVE
FEET, ANOTHER OVERLAY VIOLATION.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE SMALLEST SETBACK POSSIBLE ON KENNEDY,
FIVE FEET.
THEY ARE DOING THIS TO FURTHER THEIR GOAL OF MINIMUM HEIGHT
BY SPREADING OUT AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
THIS DIAGRAM IS FROM THE KENNEDY OVERLAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE GOAL OF SHADE AND WIDE SIDEWALKS WHICH ARE

KEY TO ACTIVATING THE WALKABILITY VISION OF THE OVERLAY.
TGH GOT IT RIGHT.
THIS IS WHAT THE OVERLAY IS DESIGNED TO ACHIEVE.
WIDE SIDEWALKS AND SOME SPACE FOR SHADE TREES TO GROW AND
THRIVE.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT MOVE-OUTS TYPICALLY OCCUR AT THE
END OF THE MONTH AND MOVE-INS BEGIN THE NEXT DAY.
292 UNITS, 24 MOVE-INS AND MOVE-OUTS EACH MONTH.
ROUGHLY 48 MOVING TRUCKS OVER THREE TO FOUR DAYS.
PLUS A RESTAURANT THAT WILL HAVE DELIVERIES ALL DAY LONG.
THEY NEED THE SIZE AND NUMBER OF BERTHS THE CODE REQUIRES.
IF THE DEVELOPER BUILT TALLER ON KENNEDY, THEY WOULD NOT
NEED A WAIVER FOR FEWER, SMALLER LOADING BERTHS.
IF THEY BUILT TALLER ON KENNEDY, THEY WOULD NOT NEED WAIVERS
TO REMOVE A GRAND TREE OR ALLOW LOADING MANEUVERS IN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
IF COMPLYING WITH THE KENNEDY OVERLAY, BUILD TALLER ON
KENNEDY, REDUCE HEIGHT ON NORTH A, HAVE TEN FOOT SETBACKS,
PLANT SHADE TREES IN THOSE SETBACKS, PLACE THE DRIVEWAY IN
THE RIGHT PLACE AND THEY WOULDN'T NEED MULTIPLE WAIVERS TO
THE OVERLAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE AN OUTSTANDING DEVELOPMENT
INSTEAD OF A BURDEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT BONUS AGREEMENTS
ARE DISCRETIONARY.

THEY ARE AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
THIS BONUS AGREEMENT IS FOR 120% AMI WHICH IS MARKET RATE.
IF YOU WANT BONUS REQUESTS FOR FAKE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF
YOU WANT MORE OF THOSE, APPROVE THIS BONUS AGREEMENT.
IF YOU WANT REAL-WORLD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DENY THIS LOUSY
BONUS AGREEMENT.
PLEASE DENY THIS PROJECT.
IT IS DESIGNED TO CREATE PROFIT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
1:41:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PATRICK.
1:41:19PM >> I'M GOING TO HOOK UP TO THE HDMI WITH MY COMPUTER TO SHOW
A PowerPoint.
WE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE.
1:41:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
1:41:44PM >> TECHNICAL, I SEE IT ON MY SCREEN BUT NOT ABOVE.
1:41:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE TO START WITH YOUR NAME BEFORE
THEY PULL IT UP.
1:41:50PM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK CIMINO.
I RECOMMEND YOU DENY THIS REZONING.
I WAS ACTUALLY APPROACHED BY ADJACENT BUSINESS PERSON FOR
THE REZONING IN 2022.
AND I GAVE HIM MY COMMENTS.
I SAID, NUMBER ONE, DO YOU HAVE AN ATTORNEY?
NUMBER TWO, THERE IS A PLETHORA OF WAIVERS.

THE MOST WORRISOME OF WHICH FOR YOU IS THE LOADING BAYS
BEING REDUCED FROM FOUR TO ZERO.
I RECOMMEND YOU DENY THIS PROPOSAL.
LET ME GET THE PAPER.
THANK YOU.
1:42:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE IT FOR THE WOLF?
THIS IS WHY WE SUBMIT THESE IN ADVANCE.
1:42:49PM >> WITHIN THE LAST 20 YEARS, SOMEONE DID A VISION GRAND
BOULEVARD FOR KENNEDY, AND IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED SOMETHING
LIKE THIS.
THIS, IN FACT, IS A GRAND BOULEVARD IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
THAT WAS A BLIGHTED AREA THAT WAS REDONE.
THIS IS NOT ENHANCING OUR GRAND BOULEVARD.
IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON KENNEDY FROM BOULEVARD.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM HOWARD ON BOULEVARD.
NOT MUCH OF A GRAND BOULEVARD.
I'M REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LOADING BAY WAIVERS.
ONE RESTAURANT, AND I PRESENTED THIS BEFORE HAVING STUDIED
EXTENSIVELY IN HYDE PARK, PRODUCES AT LEAST FIVE TO SIX
DELIVERIES, THREE OF WHICH ARE TRACTOR TRAILERS, AND THIS IS
A TRACTOR TRAILER 50 FEET LONG.
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING, THESE LITTLE INTERNAL
LOADING BAYS, WHICH THEY DESCRIBE AND THESE ARE THE
DIMENSIONS.
I WON'T GO INTO THEM.

THIS FORTUITOUSLY IS A PICTURE FROM GOOGLE MAPS OF A TRACTOR
TRAILER LOOKING NORTH ON WESTLAND.
I GUARANTEE YOU WE GET A LOT OF BEEPS FROM EMS, GARBAGE AND
OTHER TRUCKS IN OUR SIMILAR STREETS.
WORSE YET, IF THE TRUCK CAN'T GO ON TO THE SIDE STREETS,
WHICH MANY CAN'T NAVIGATE, THEY PARK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON
A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
THIS IS SWANN, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO KENNEDY.
THIS IS ALBANY GOING NORTH.
NOTICE THE "NO TRUCK" SIGN.
THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER RENDERING THAT OFFERED ON-STREET
PARKING FOR AMAZON-TYPE TRUCKS.
I WILL TELL YOU, THERE ARE ENTITIES IN TAMPA THAT TAKE
LOADING BAYS SERIOUSLY.
THIS IS THE BERN'S EPICUREAN.
NOSE IN WITH A TRACTOR TRAILER, PARK, UNLOAD, AND NOSE OUT.
PUBLIX AT PLATT AND ARMENIA HAS THE SAME SETUP.
IT CAN BE DONE IF YOU PUT EFFORT INTO IT.
THIS NEEDS TO BE DENIED IF WE WANT A GRAND BOULEVARD.
THANK YOU.
1:45:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE
MINUTES.
1:45:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER SHEET.
ADRIENNE LARAMIE.
WINSTON EVERSON.

WINSTON EVASON.
LAST CALL.
WINSTON.
NO.
GAIL EVISON.
GAIL EVISON?
NO.
ANA LINA.
THANK YOU.
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
CHARLES DIXON.
THANK YOU.
CYNTHIA MALONEY.
THANK YOU.
PAM CANNELLA.
THANK YOU.
FIVE PLUS THREE IS EIGHT MINUTES.
1:46:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU HAVE EIGHT MINUTES.
1:46:36PM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS SANDY DEDIEGO SANCHEZ.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HANDOUT -- FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
LAST 24 HOURS I HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WRONG GOING TO HAPPEN.
EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY FROM CAR TROUBLE TO PRINTING

PROBLEMS, EVERYTHING HAS HAPPENED.
I'M SHAKING LIKE A LEAF.
ON PAGE 1, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
IT SHOWS THE PROXIMITY OF THE SITE OF THE RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT ALSO SHOWS WHERE THE OTHER HIGH DENSITY STRUCTURES ARE.
1:47:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE A COPY TO DISPLAY?
DO YOU WISH TO DISPLAY IT?
1:47:15PM >> NO, THAT'S WHY I GAVE IT TO THEM.
1:47:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A COPY FOR THE CLERK?
1:47:22PM >> I GAVE YOU NINE.
1:47:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THEN IS GIVE THIS
TO THE PETITIONER BECAUSE OTHERWISE HE WILL NOT SEE WHAT
YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
I'LL GIVE IT TO HIM.
1:47:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD, SANDY.
HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PETITIONER HAD THE EVIDENCE
YOU'RE SUBMITTING.
1:47:45PM >> I GAVE HIM ONE.
CAN I START OVER, PLEASE?
1:47:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, GO AHEAD.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
GO AHEAD AND START IT OVER.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAD EIGHT MINUTES.

1:48:10PM >> YOU HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES BEFORE.
NICOLE, PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION SHOWED THEM TO YOU.
NORTH HYDE PARK IS ONE OF TAMPA'S CLOSEST EXAMPLES TO A TRUE
URBAN VILLAGE, COMBINING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, HIGH DENSITY
HOUSING, RESTAURANTS, TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL, MAJOR GROCERY
STORE, EASY INTERSTATE ACCESS AND THE GREEN SPINE AND NEAR
DOWNTOWN.
TO PRESERVE THIS BALANCE, THE COMMUNITY HAS WORKED CLOSELY
WITH DEVELOPERS TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER.
RESIDENTS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE
THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY GUIDES THEIR COMMUNITY.
A TOUR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT HAVE HELPED THE DEVELOPERS
BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS WELL ORGANIZED BALANCED COMMUNITY.
MOST OF THE FOLKS WHO HAVE SPOKEN HERE TODAY HAVE VESTED
INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THEY EITHER LIVE IN NORTH
HYDE PARK COMMUNITY OR LIVE NEXT TO A COMMERCIAL OVERLAY
CORRIDOR.
DECISIONS YOU MAKE TODAY, THE IMPORTANT GUIDELINES YOU AGREE
TO IGNORE WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER PROJECTS THIS SIZE.
THIS PROJECT SHOULD NOT BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU WANT FOR
OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
THERE ARE SEVERAL IMPORTANT AREAS WHERE THE DEVELOPERS HAVE
BEEN ALLOWED TO BYPASS OVERLAY STANDARDS, WHICH MAKES THIS
PROJECT NONCOMPLIANT.
ON PAGE 2 ON THE SIDEWALKS, THE ATTACHED DIAGRAM SHOWS

DIRECTLY FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD OVERLAY, THAT THE SIDEWALK
SHOULD BE 8 TO 12-FOOT WIDE AND REQUIRES TREES TO BE PLANTED
ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, CLEARLY DEFINING WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR
COMPLIANCE.
THE SIDEWALK VERBIAGE ABOUT THE ENCROACHMENT AND THE PAPER
WORK THAT IS NEEDED AND -- HAS TO BE APPROVED.
ON ENCROACHMENT FROM THE OVERLAY, KENNEDY BOULEVARD
RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIRES SEPARATE ENCROACHMENT APPLICATION AND
ADDITIONAL APPROVAL FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION.
THERE IS NO APPLICATION ON FILE.
NOTE FOR SOMEBODY TO CHECK BUT NO ANSWER.
OTHER THAN A SMALL BLURB ON THE STAFF ABOUT WHO TO CONTACT,
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.
REDESIGNING THIS TO COMPLY CANNOT BE ACCOMPLISHED BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING NOR SHOULD IT BE ALLOWED FOR
PERMITTING TO CATCH IT.
IF CORRECTED, IT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE SETBACKS
AND FOOTPRINT OF THE STRUCTURE.
PAGE 3B, THIS FOOTPRINT ALLOWS 75,677 SQUARE FEET OF
IMPERMEABLE SURFACE AND IS ON A TRAFFIC READY CORRIDOR.
THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS IS ALSO THE QUESTION.
NOTE THE 10-FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE OVERHEAD SHOWS ONLY FIVE
FEET OF UNENCUMBERED.
YOU WILL SEE THAT TO BE THE SIDE OF THE PLANTERS,

RIGHT-OF-WAY, THERE IS A SHELTERED BUS STOP ALSO ON THAT
SIDEWALK.
THEN THE NEW LARGE RESTAURANT.
WE THOUGHT THERE WERE GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF RETAIL
ESTABLISHMENTS, BUT ONE RESTAURANT AND THE LEASING OFFICE.
I DO BELIEVE THE FIVE FOOT PATCH DOES NOT FULFILL THE
STANDARDS DEMANDED BY THE OVERLAY.
IN THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET, STAPLED IS THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE
MEETING OF 7/23/26.
SO YOU CAN REVIEW DETAILED CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE
DEVELOPMENT, ATTORNEY CATE WELLS, STAFF, AND MEMBERS OF
COUNCIL.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED.
IRONICALLY, YOUR ANSWER CAME FROM THE DEVELOPER.
TOP LEFT-HAND CORNER, ONE OF THE SITE PLANS, AND YOU'LL SEE
IT IS 3A, IT READS: EXISTING OVERHEAD UTILITY DESIGNS SHALL
BE PLACED UNDERGROUND PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE FINAL
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
LISTEN TO THAT.
THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE FINISHED AND THEN THEY ARE GOING
TO ASK THEM ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND WIRING.
IN THE EVENT THAT TREES NEED TO BE SHIFTED TO ACCOMMODATE
THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, A REVISION TO THE SITE RECORD
SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOR ADMINISTRATION APPROVAL.
DID THAT ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS?

UNDERGROUNDING WIRING IS NOT A SIMPLE FOOTNOTE ON A SITE
PLAN.
IN THE TRANSCRIPT AND ADMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER,
INSTALLATION OF UNDERGROUND WIRING WILL CHANGE THE
LANDSCAPING QUALITY OF THE TREES AND THE FOOTPRINT.
THIS IS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
THE DEVELOPER ALSO STATES THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THE
UNDERGROUND WIRING, JUST NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE TO LOCATE IT.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE TO BE RELEGATED TO TIME OF
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND ALSO THE DEVELOPER SUGGESTS.
CANNOT BE PASSED OFF TO PERMITTING TO CATCH IT.
CANNOT BE ACCOMPLISHED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
EVEN THE DEVELOPER AGREES THAT DETAILS SHOULD BE PART OF THE
SITE PLAN AND STATES IT IN THE OVERLAY.
THE EVASION OF THE OVERLAY STANDARDS MAKE IT NONCOMPLIANT
AND INCONSISTENT.
WHERE IS THE DOCUMENTATION?
THE LOADING DOCKS.
PLEASE SEE ON PAGE 4A ON THE LEFT SIDE SHOWS YOU REALITY OF
20-FOOT NARROW STREET OF WESTLAND.
THE TRUCKS ARE TO SCALE.
WASTE MANAGEMENT TRUCK SHOWS THE TRUE TURNING RADIUS NEEDED
TO MAKE THAT TURN ONTO WESTLAND.
THEY DECIDED OVERNIGHT ALMOST TO PUT THE TWO LOADING DOCKS
MEANS YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY MAKE AN S CURVE IN THAT SMALL

AMOUNT OF SPACE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT WITH ONE OF THE SEMIS OR EVEN ONE OF
THE TRUCKS THAT ARE DELIVERING PACKAGES.
IT IS NOT FEASIBLE THAT THOSE LOADING DOCKS WILL BE USABLE.
THE CONCERN AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY.
SENDS VERY NEGATIVE MESSAGES TO DEVELOPERS THAT YOU DON'T
HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CODE STANDARDS, BUT YOU CAN BUILD
WHATEVER YOU WANT.
SO, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T ABOUT DENSITY, BUT ABOUT THE
BASTARDIZATION OF THE KENNEDY BUSINESS OVERLAY AND HOW THIS
PROJECT AS IS DOES NOT ADHERE TO THE OVERLAY, THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
APPROVING THIS AS IS SERIOUSLY HARMS THIS COMMUNITY AND THE
CITY.
A COUPLE OF YOU PRAISED THIS PROJECT.
THE COMMENTS ON THE TRANSCRIPT, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO --
MOVE FORWARD ALL THE ISSUES?
DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE THE BLUEPRINT OF THE FUTURE?
A FEW YEARS AGO, WE WERE DESPERATE FOR HOUSING.
SOME OF THE PLANS MIGHT HAVE BEEN RUSHED THROUGH BECAUSE OF
THE NEED OF HOUSING.
THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE.
RECENT REPORTS FOR THE FLORIDA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE STATES
THAT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, FLORIDA HAS GROWN LESS THAN ONE
PERCENT.

TAMPA RUNS CLOSE IN THAT SAME AREA.
YOU CAN SEE ALL THE FOR SALE SIGNS AND THE RENTAL SIGNS WHEN
YOU DRIVE THROUGH.
THERE IS NO RUSH TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS JUST PAPER.
THE DEVELOPERS NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
DO I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THAT IS?
YES, I DO.
BUT WHEN FINISHED IT WILL BE THE RESULT THAT TAMPA WANTS FOR
ITS VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
THIS IS NOT A COAT OF PAINT.
IT IS A STRUCTURE.
MAY I REMIND YOU THAT THE OVERLAY AS STATED IN '27 -- 27-231
AND 27-243 IN THE OVERLAY, IN THE EVENT OF A CONFLICT
BETWEEN THE SPECIFIC OVERLAY STANDARDS FOR DISTINCT
GEOGRAPHIC AREA IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED PROVISION
OF THIS CHAPTER, THE MORE RESTRICTIVE STANDARDS APPLY.
WEST TAMPA OVERLAY IS -- PLEASE DENY THIS.
LIST ON THE LAST PAGE.
1:56:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIME IT UP.
TIME IS UP.
1:56:21PM >> REASONS OF DENIAL THAT --
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:56:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TIME IS UP.
1:56:25PM >> YOU TOOK TWO MINUTES AWAY FROM ME.

1:56:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, WE DIDN'T.
WE GAVE IT ALL BACK TO YOU.
YOU ACTUALLY GOT BONUS MINUTES.
WHAT WE FIRST GAVE YOU DIDN'T COUNT AGAINST YOU.
YOU JUST CAN'T WIN.
MS. POYNOR, START WITH YOUR NAME.
1:56:53PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I'M LOOKING AT THESE LOADING DOCKS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING -- THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT STRAIGHT
AMAZON TRUCKS.
MY MAMA DROVE A BIG TRUCK.
SHE WAS A TRUCK DRIVER.
YOU KNOW HOW LONG THOSE TRAILERS ARE ON THE REGULAR SIZE
TRUCKS?
THEY ARE 53 FEET.
WHEN YOU SEE THEM PULLING TWO, THEY ARE 28 FEET.
MOST REGULAR TRUCK DRIVERS WHO MAKE A LIVING DRIVING TRUCKS
COULD NOT BACK INTO THESE BAYS.
SO THEY ARE USELESS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A REGULAR MOVING COMPANY DRIVING
STRAIGHT TRUCKS, THEY ARE NOT FULLY CERTIFIED CLASS A
DRIVERS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
I DON'T REMEMBER.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

MY MAMA HAS BEEN DEAD FOR TEN YEARS.
BUT THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN GET INTO THIS, ESPECIALLY IF
THEY ARE PULLING A TRAILER.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE PULLING A TRAILER.
IT'S 28 FEET LONG.
WHERE IS THE TRUCK GOING TO GO?
EVEN IF THEY BACK STRAIGHT IN, THEY ARE HANGING OUT IN THE
STREET.
I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE AMAZON IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WILL
SHOW UP WHEN YOU PUT A COFFEE SHOP, RESTAURANT.
I SEE CISCO, GORDON FOOD SERVICE.
I SEE THOSE KIND OF BUSINESSES.
THEY DON'T DRIVE AMAZON-SIZE TRUCKS.
THEY DRIVE FULL-SIZE TRUCKS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BONUS AGREEMENT WHICH I THINK IS POOP.
WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO THE BONUS AGREEMENT AND CERTAINLY
SHOULD NOT.
THIS IS A FAKE BONUS AGREEMENT.
IT IS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR 120% AMI WHICH IS $87,600 A
YEAR FOR ONE PERSON.
AND THEN WHEN YOU DO THE MATH, DIVIDE IT BY 12, TIMES IT BY
30 PERCENT, YOU COME UP WITH $2,190 FOR RENT AND UTILITIES.
BUT I PULLED ALL THE INFORMATION, APARTMENTS.COM.
MY NEW FAVORITE FRIEND IS SOMETHING THUNDER SOMETHING.
ANYWAY, PULLED ALL THE DATA OUT OF APARTMENTS.COM.

THESE ARE ALL OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE WEST OF WILLOW TO
MacDILL TO De LEON TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH TO LEMON
STREET.
THIS IS WHAT IS SURROUNDING THEM.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME NUMBERS ON HERE THAT AREN'T ON YOURS
BECAUSE I DIDN'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY APARTMENT
COMPLEX BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MAY BE SMALLER LIKE SINGLE
HOMES BROKEN INTO FOUR UNITS.
BUT JUST THESE UNITS ALONE.
IT WAS OVER A HUNDRED UNITS AVAILABLE.
THAT'S HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE IN THESE.
THEY ARE ALL UNDER THAT 2190 A MONTH.
WE GET ALL THE WAY DOWN TO NUMBER 15.
WHY ARE WE GIVING A BONUS AGREEMENT FOR AFFORDABLE WHEN IT'S
NOT TRULY AFFORDABLE.
THAT'S MARKET RATE.
120 IS MARKET RATE.
LET'S STOP ACTING LIKE IT'S NOT BECAUSE THAT'S A LIE.
WE HAVE OUR FAKE BONUS AGREEMENT.
I GAVE YOU A REVIEW FROM SOMEBODY.
1:59:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
1:59:57PM >> FOR ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX WHO CHARGES FOR PEOPLE TO
PARK THERE.
2:00:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
2:00:02PM >> THAT'S OKAY.

JUST READ THE REVIEW.
2:00:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
2:00:06PM >> AND TALK TO THE PARKING DEPARTMENT ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE
PARKING ON THE STREET.
2:00:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL?
2:00:16PM >> COLIN RICE AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANT.
I HOPE I DON'T NEED IT, BUT I WOULD ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL
FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSES.
I PROBABLY WON'T GET THERE BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK.
2:00:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
2:00:31PM >> SURE.
SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ASSERTIONS MADE.
I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TO COMPLETE
THE RECORD FOR PROTECTING MY CLIENT'S PURPOSES -- I DON'T
THINK I'LL NEED IT.
2:00:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GRANTED.
2:00:45PM >> WE DO HAVE AN APPENDIX FOR HISTORY AND STATISTICS FOR THE
SITE, I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD.
APPLICANT'S APPENDIX.
I WOULD LIKE TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND THINK
PROCEDURALLY, THINK HISTORICALLY ABOUT THIS SITE.
WE SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION IN DECEMBER OF 2025.
AS YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, THE
REZONING PROCEDURES 27-149 REQUIRE NOTICE OF FILING

APPLICATION, WHICH WE PROVIDED.
WE HELD OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
WE HELD THE MOST RECENT MEETING VIRTUALLY AUGUST 28, AND WE
POSTED 12, WHICH I THINK IS CITY OF TAMPA RECORD OF THOSE
GIANT YELLOW NOTICE SIGNS FOR FIRST READING.
I JUST WANT TO RESPECTFULLY INTRODUCE TO THE COUNCIL THE
IDEA THIS IS A SURPRISING, JUST UNDERSTOOD PROJECT, I DON'T
BELIEVE IS A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION.
WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2022 BUT THIS HAS BEEN A NEARLY YEAR'S
LONG APPLICATION IN THE CURRENT FORM.
I DO NEED TO JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSES TICK THROUGH A COUPLE
OF THINGS THAT WERE STATED AND, OF COURSE, WELCOME ANY OF
YOUR QUESTIONS.
2:02:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PAUSE ONE SECOND?
THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, IF YOU ARE TALKING, WE CAN'T HEAR THE
PERSON AT THE PODIUM.
IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK, PLEASE REMOVE YOURSELF FROM CHAMBER
AND GO IN THE LOBBY TO SPEAK.
HERE WE KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT AND LISTEN.
START THE CLOCK AGAIN AND GO AHEAD.
2:02:19PM >> THANK YOU.
JUST TO REFRAIN PROCEDURALLY WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY AT
SECOND READING, AT FIRST READING, WE CAME IN WITH A
CONSISTENT STAFF REPORT FROM EVERY REVIEWING DEPARTMENT, A
FINDING OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS UMU 60

AND A LIST OF REVISIONS FROM STAFF ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN
ACCOMPLISHED AND LIST OF REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL AND IN MY
VIEW THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
A NUMBER OF THINGS STATED AND ASSERTED TODAY I'M HEARING FOR
THE FIRST TIME.
AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE'VE BEEN HIGHLY AVAILABLE.
I WOULD HAVE LOVED IN FEBRUARY OR JUNE OR AUGUST THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON SOME OF THESE POINTS.
I'M HEARING THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.
I'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW, VET OR RECEIVE SOME OF THE
THINGS SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD.
SPECIFICALLY, WE DO ALREADY HAVE A WAIVER APPROVED FROM 2022
FOR REMOVAL OF THE GRAND TREE, KEEPING IT JUST SIMPLY AS
EXTREMELY DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROJECT.
DILLON IS CAPABLE OF SPEAKING ABOUT THE DESIGN FEATURES
SHOULD YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT FRONT.
THE LOADING BAYS ARE FUNCTIONAL FOR AMAZON-TYPE DELIVERY
VEHICLES, WHICH UPON FIRST READING WAS WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD
THE CONCERN TO BE VETTED BY BOLLERS ENGINEERED AUTO TURN
EXHIBIT.
AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE KENNEDY OVERLAY AND NOT WEST TAMPA.
TO THE PARKING POINT, THE CITY APPROACHED OUR TEAM ABOUT,
HEY, THIS IS THE PARKING RATIO APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR SITE.
WE SAID OKAY.
SO WE DID IT AND UNDER THE CURRENT CALCULATIONS WE HAVE A

SURPLUS.
PRIOR WE HAD A WAIVER.
WE HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES INTERNAL THAN UNITS.
DYLAN CAN SPEAK TO THEIR OPERATIONS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
WE FEEL THIS IS VERY SUFFICIENTLY PARKED FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT THE RISK OF GOING NERD ON US FOR A SECOND, REMIND COUNCIL
OF OUR OBLIGATION TO BE FAITHFUL WITH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE WHICH ONE PIECE OF THIS IS THE SUPPORTIVE STAFF
REPORT.
GIVING DUE WEIGHT TO THINGS PRESENTED WHETHER IT QUALIFIES
AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
IN MY VIEW, THE RECORD IS SUPPORTED FOR APPROVAL WITH
EVIDENCE.
WE DO HAVE ON-STREET PARKING SPACES ALONG NORTH A.
THOSE ARE CARRIED OVER FROM 2022.
THOSE REMAIN.
WITH RESPECT TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND SIDEWALKS, ONE OF THE
CONCERNS THAT HAD COME UP, ADA ACCESSIBLE, A PERSON WITH
SPECIAL NEEDS TRAVERSE VIA ON FOOT OR WITH WHEELCHAIR AROUND
THE SITE.
THEY CERTAINLY CAN.
THE TREE GRATES ARE NOT OBSTRUCTIVE IN ANY WAY.
THESE ARE ENHANCED SIDEWALKS.
THESE ARE WALK-UP UNITS AND ELIMINATED SEVERAL

INGRESS/EGRESS POINTS TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT WERE
THERE WHEN JERSEY MIKES WAS PART OF THE PLAN PREVIOUSLY.
IT IS A MUCH SAFER PLACE TO TRAVERSE ALL THE WAY AROUND.
WITH RESPECT TO THE TYPES OF TENANTS, WE HAVE SPACE
ALLOCATED, BUT THERE'S NO INDICATION OF WHICH TYPES OR WHICH
SPECIFIC BUSINESSES WILL BE OCCUPYING THE NONRESIDENTIAL
PORTIONS OF THE SITE.
TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE AT THIS STAGE IS SPECULATIVE AND
CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON WHO IS APPROPRIATE TO
BE OCCUPYING THE SPACES.
I WILL PAUSE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE DYLAN LAMBERT TO SPEAK FOR A MOMENT.
2:05:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE FINISH WITH YOUR REBUTTAL AND
THEN WE'LL DO THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
2:05:58PM >> WITH THAT, I'LL PAUSE.
I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AND IDEAS.
2:06:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:06:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
WHEN THE CHAIRMAN MADE A REMARK ABOUT THE UNDERGROUNDING OF
CABLES, WONDERFUL THING.
NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING.
TALKING ABOUT THE CABLE UNDERGROUNDING.
TALKING ABOUT THE CABLE AND I SAID THE SAME THING THAT I
APPRECIATED THE DEVELOPERS DOING THE CABLE UNDERGROUNDING.
THAT WAS IT.

2:06:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:06:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
I DID NOT ASK FOR AMAZON DELIVERY TRUCKS TO BE IN.
I ASKED FOR AN ON-STREET PARKING SPACE THAT COULD
ACCOMMODATE A FULL SEMITRUCK THAT COULD ALSO ACCOMMODATE UP
TO TWO AMAZON TRUCKS ON STREET.
THAT'S WHAT I ASKED FOR.
BECAUSE KNOWING THAT -- THAT'S THE BIGGER PROBLEM IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE SAW TODAY.
WE HAVE LARGE SEMITRUCKS THAT HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THAT PROBLEM.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT'S GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SOLVING
OF THE SEMI PROBLEM.
YOU CAN HAVE THOSE AMAZON DELIVERY TRUCK SPACES STILL,
PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA BECAUSE THEY'LL FIT U-HAULS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YOU NEED ON-STREET PARKING SPACE THAT
CAN BE THE ONLY PLACE USED FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING OF A
SEMI.
THAT'S CRITICAL.
I DID BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- I
REMEMBERED THE FIRST REZONING.
THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY ADAMANT ABOUT A STEP DOWN TO FOUR
STORIES.
YOU ALL WERE LIKE NO, NO, THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

NOW I FOUND OUT THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
IT.
I AM NOT HAPPY BECAUSE I KNEW -- I KNEW AND I NEVER SHOULD
HAVE APPROVED IT.
I REGRET MY VOTE NOW BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WANTED A STEP DOWN
TO FOUR STORIES TO ENTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT JUST SIMPLY HAS TO HAPPEN.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S NO REASON TO ASK FOR A WAIVER FOR
TREES.
PUT THE TREES ON YOUR PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT A WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
IT'S A KENNEDY OVERLAY.
AS WE SAW MULTIPLE THINGS, EXAMPLES TODAY, THE TEN FOOT
SIDEWALKS ARE CRITICAL.
PERSONALLY, I -- AND I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN BECAUSE
WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THIS ALREADY TODAY, BUT I
PREFER YOU GO BACK AND FIGURE THIS OUT WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL THINK.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A WAY TO YES BECAUSE YES HAS GOTTEN TO
BEFORE WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO VOTE THIS DOWN TODAY UNLESS WE HAVE

AN ABILITY -- AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU ALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE.
IT WOULD TAKE IT BACK TO FIRST READING.
THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF THESE THINGS CAN'T BE DONE.
I THINK THEY CAN COMPLETELY BE DONE.
I THINK YOU CAN SAVE THE TREE.
SAVE THE TREE, MAKE IT A DOG PARK SPACE.
EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD IN THE OTHER ONE.
THE LAST REZONING WAS ALLOWING FOR A LOT OF MULTIPLE, SMALL
RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS ON THE OUTSKIRTS.
I DO REMEMBER THAT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T HAVE MORE OF THAT.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT STEP UP -- OR APARTMENTS
THAT ARE GOING TO REACH -- YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE APARTMENTS
ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT ARE ACTUALLY ACCESSIBLE BY THE
SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF INTERIOR, CORRECT?
2:09:45PM >> I CAN SPEAK TO THAT POINT IF YOU'D LIKE.
2:09:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IF YOU HAVE
THOSE STREET TREES THAT ARE NOT ON THE PROPERTY, THEN
BASICALLY THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A STOOP.
THEY ARE WALKING RIGHT IN.
YOU NEED SPACE THERE.
WHAT WOULD GO PERFECTLY THERE?

A TREE.
SO YOU COULD DO A TREE.
YOU COULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP.
THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A WALK-IN, WALK-UP APARTMENT IS
HAVE A STOOP FEEL.
TO FEEL LIKE YOU ARE A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT
ENTERING STRAIGHT FROM THE SIDEWALK.
THAT'S THE BEAUTY AND APPEAL OF A UNIT LIKE THAT.
THIS CAN BE DESIGNED MUCH BETTER.
YES, CAN YOU GO HIGHER?
YOU SHOULD GO TO TEN STORIES ON KENNEDY.
THAT'S THE DESIGN, THAT'S THE GOAL AND THEN STEP DOWN.
YOU'LL PROBABLY END UP GETTING MORE UNITS OUT OF THIS IF YOU
DO IT THAT WAY.
THE COMMUNITY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WE REALLY WANT TO STICK WITH THE VISION OF THE KENNEDY
AVENUE OVERLAY AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DON'T CONTROL ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH
THIS, BUT PAYING FOR PARKING, THE CITY IS NOT READY FOR
THAT.
WE'RE JUST NOT THERE.
THERE IS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX A COUPLE OF DOORS DOWN FROM MY
HOUSE THAT HAS PARKING THAT'S PART OF THE APARTMENTS, BUT
THEY ALSO HAVE LIKE AN UNDERGROUNDED SPACE THAT'S SHADED AND
COVERED AND ALSO GATED OFF.

IF YOU WANTED TO CHARGE FOR SOMETHING EXTRA OR SPECIAL, THAT
MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, THEY STILL HAVE A PLACE TO PARK.
I KNOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IN REZONING, BUT I
FELT I REALLY NEEDED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
ME PERSONALLY, I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THEM GO BACK TO THE
DRAWING BOARD.
I KNOW NO IS ONE WAY TO DO THAT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THEY
COULD GET THERE.
2:11:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:11:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COLIN, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO LOOK AT
HERE.
ON ONE HAND YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME MORE THAN A
REASONABLE BASIS, WHICH IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMPETENT
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO VOTE SOMETHING DOWN.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY LAST TIME.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OBVIOUSLY HAS HER POSITION.
SHE'S GIVEN HER RATIONALE FOR PERSPECTIVE CHANGE IN VOTE.
I'M NOT COMMENTING ON THAT WHATSOEVER.
I RESPECT THAT.
YOU HAVE A CLEAN STAFF REPORT, PLANNING COMMISSION, GOOD
RECORD, I WOULD SAY, ON THIS ISSUE.
BUT THE CHANCE FOR A CONTINUANCE IS SOMETHING JUST TO
CONSIDER.
HERE IS THE RATIONALE, TYPICALLY AT THIS TIME, WE DON'T

TYPICALLY GRANT CONTINUANCES AFTER ALL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE
DISTINGUISHING POINT HAS BEEN WHAT YOU JUST SAID, MATTERS
HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE PUBLIC WHICH WOULD APPEAR TO
HAVE -- APPEAR TO HAVE ON AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AN
EFFECT ON THEIR VOTE WHICH YOU DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO PRIOR
TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
NOW YOU HAVE IT.
THAT AT LEAST FOR ME COULD BE THE BASIS.
YOUR PREVIOUSLY STATED POSITION IS VERY WELL TAKEN WITH ME.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, JUST SAYING.
2:12:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, HOW DO WE GET THIS BACK TO
FIRST READING IF THE CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT?
2:12:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE THING IS, NORMALLY, THERE WAS NO
PRESENTATION TODAY.
REALLY THE RULE ABOUT THE PRESENTATION REALLY ONLY APPLIES
TO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, YOUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.
IN EFFECT, COUNCIL, BY YOU HAVING TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON A
REZONING, WHAT YOU ARE, IN FACT, DOING AT THE FIRST READING
IS HAVING A FULL HEARING WITH COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE, IF YOU FIND SO, TO THEN ACCEPT IT ON FIRST READING
AND MOVE IT TO A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING.
A SECOND ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING, THE WAY THE CITY OF TAMPA
HAS STRUCTURED IT, IS STILL A FULL PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU
CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE AND BE ABLE TO WEIGH THAT.
YOU ARE NOT BOUND BY YOUR FIRST VOTE IF COMPETENT

SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE SUPPORTS IT IN A SECOND VOTE.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THE CITY HAS IT STRUCTURED.
IN THIS CASE, IF IT'S MR. RICE'S DECISION BASED ON WHAT HE
HAS SAID AND THE POSITION HE FINDS HIMSELF TO REQUEST A
CONTINUANCE, IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE.
2:14:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
2:14:07PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WOULD SAY THAT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH AT ONE
POINT THERE WAS A YES FOR THIS OR THERE IS A WAY TO GET TO
THAT.
I THINK IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY, IF JUDGING BY WHAT YOU
JUST SAID, MR. SHELBY, IF WE CAN HAVE MAYBE THAT
CONVERSATION TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO TRY AND GET
TO A YES, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO
EXPLORE.
SEEMS LIKE SOME THINGS THAT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH AND TALKED
THROUGH WITH THE COMMUNITY.
2:14:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE A REQUEST?
2:14:45PM >> MAY I HAVE ONE MOMENT WITH MY CLIENT?
2:14:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:14:55PM >> CAN I HAVE MR. LAMBERT SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS FOR YOU.
2:15:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE
WHETHER HE WISHES TO DO THAT.
2:15:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
KEEP IT BRIEF.
2:15:10PM >> DYLAN LAMBERT.

3,000 LOCUST.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
WE WANT TO DO A GREAT PROJECT.
WE DO NOT BY ANY MEANS WANT TO RUSH THIS THROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS LIKE COLIN MENTIONED
SINCE DECEMBER.
WE WANT THIS TO BE GOOD FOR THE SITE AND GOOD FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS A LOT DISCUSSED TODAY.
MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK CLARIFICATIONS.
MEMBER HURTAK WAS EIGHT STORIES.
STEPPED DOWN TO SIX ON THE NORTH END BUT DID HAVE THAT BREAK
IN THE FACADE.
REDUCING THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO SIX STORIES WE THOUGHT WAS A
GOOD IMPROVEMENT.
I FEEL LIKE SIX STORIES ACROSS THE SITE IS A LOT LESS
INCLUSIVE THAN TEN PLUS STORIES ON HALF OF IT.
BUT I DIGRESS.
THAT'S A PERSONAL OPINION.
THE WOOD CONSTRUCTION IS NOT A COST-SAVING MEASURE, CUTTING
CORNERS.
YOU CAN DO A VERY BAD CONCRETE OR STEEL PROJECT.
IT'S A BUILDING CODE MECHANISM FOR FIRE RATING AND WHAT'S
REQUIRED FOR BUILDINGS OF CERTAIN STORIES.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.

I THINK THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.
WE MET WITH STAFF AND TALKED ABOUT THE ON STREET SPACE.
IT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED THE SIDEWALK AND STREET TREES A
LITTLE BIT SO WE DECIDED TO FIND IT INTERNALLY.
I THINK WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO ACCOMMODATE WAS LOST IN
TRANSLATION ON OUR END.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT CONFUSION.
ON THE RETAIL, AGAIN, LIKE COLIN MENTIONED, WE DON'T HAVE
USES IDENTIFIED.
PRIOR DESIGN IT WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN CONGREGATED AS WELL.
RETAIL SPACE NOT DETAILED YET.
MAY BE SEVERAL SMALL SHOPS -- WE DON'T KNOW IT.
WE HAVE PARKING EXPERTS TO ALLOCATE TO MEET THE NEEDS.
LOADING SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
WALKING UNITS, STILL HAVE STAIRS WITH STOOPS TO SEPARATE
THEM FROM THE SIDEWALK.
WE WANT THOSE TO FEEL GOOD TO THOSE RESIDENTS AND AS YOU'RE
WALKING ALONG THE STREETSCAPE.
2:17:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
[INAUDIBLE]
CONTINUE.
2:17:22PM >> THAT'S ALL I HAD, COUNCIL.
JUST A FEW CLARIFICATIONS.
BASED ON A COUPLE OF THOSE NOTES AND KIND OF GENERALLY
ACCEPT YOUR THOUGHTS SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION HERE AS TO
HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

2:17:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL CHIME IN FOR A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MYSELF, WE HAVE BEEN HITTING ON THE
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, HIGHER INTENSITY ALONG THE BOULEVARD.
THE MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE HEIGHT, WE ACTUALLY WANT THE
HEIGHT ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND THE DENSITY ABUTTING KENNEDY
BOULEVARD.
WITH THE STEP DOWN TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:18:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE ATTORNEY, YOU MENTIONED AT THE
BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON TOP OF THE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS THAT
YOU'VE HAD.
IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO A CONTINUANCE, YOU
HEARD THE CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC.
YOU HEARD THE CONCERNS OF SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
INSTEAD OF KILLING THE PROJECT, SEEING WHAT WE CAN COME UP
WITH -- NOT ME, BUT YOU AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN FURTHER
DISCUSSIONS, AND TRY TO WORK IT OUT AND COME BACK.
THAT'S IT.
2:18:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF THE INTENT IS
FOR YOU GUYS TO REQUEST A CONTINUATION, RATHER THAN US
THINKING ABOUT NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAIS ABOUT THIS PROJECT,
I THINK -- I'LL LET THE COUNCILPERSON SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS
SO YOU HAVE THAT INDICATION MOVING FORWARD BUT REALIZE WE'RE
NOT NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAIS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS

PROJECT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:18:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, ON ONE SIDE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE FACING SOUTH, WHAT
DO YOU HAVE THERE?
PEOPLE GOING 25, 35, 45, EVEN 50 MILES AN HOUR.
SEMITRUCKS, CEMENT TRUCKS.
EVERYTHING ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD GOING TO MAKE DELIVERIES OR
WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING TO MAKE TAMPA LOOK BETTER, INCLUDING
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN.
BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT'S DAY AND NIGHT.
YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL.
THOSE PEOPLE NOT TRAVELING, NO NUMBERS OF 20 OR 30 SEMIS
EVERY HOUR GOING BY OR EVERY DAY GOING BY.
NO CEMENT TRUCKS GOING BY.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.
TWO THINGS AT ONCE THAT ARE BOTH NEEDED IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
2:19:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WE USUALLY DON'T DO
POLLS.
IF WE WERE TO VOTE, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY VOTE IT DOWN
TODAY.
WHAT YOU'RE HEARING UNLIKE SOME PROJECTS, WE THINK YOU'RE
NOT THAT FAR THAT YOU COULD TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND

TRY TO FIX THIS.
THE ATTORNEYS CAN CORRECT ME, BUT IF WE VOTE IT DOWN, YOU
HAVE A CHOICE OF OBJECTION, LAWSUIT, OR YOU CAN WAIT A YEAR,
HOWEVER LONG IT IS.
HAVING IT GO BACK TO FIRST READING WOULD SAVE A LOT OF TIME.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS YOU DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO ULTIMATELY DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
2:20:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL ENTERTAIN A REQUEST.
2:20:14PM >> MAY I HAVE ONE MOMENT WITH MY CLIENT?
I APOLOGIZE.
2:20:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:20:22PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY?
THANK YOU.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
JUST TO GIVE A COUPLE OF DATES JUST BASED UPON THE
DISCUSSION.
BASED UPON THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGES, IF THE
APPLICANT WERE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAYBE
INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL CHANGES ON TOP OF THAT TO THE SITE
PLAN, IF A DRC IS NEEDED, THE DRC WOULD BE THE OCTOBER TIME
FRAME, OCTOBER 20.
THE REQUEST TO CONTINUE AND GO BACK TO FIRST READING WOULD
BE AT THE DECEMBER 10 HEARING.
2:20:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
12/10 THANK YOU.
2:20:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
IN ORDER TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME SO THE

APPLICANT IS AWARE.
2:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU WERE TO REQUEST AND IT WAS DRC,
12/10 WOULD BE THE HEARING.
2:21:07PM >> HELPFUL DATA POINT.
JUST ONE MOMENT.
2:21:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
DO THEY WANT TO STEP OUTSIDE AND TALK.
2:21:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE --
2:21:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU GUYS DONE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
2:21:48PM >> I NEED --
2:21:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHEN THEY ARE FINISHED.
2:21:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, I WANT COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR THAT
DECEMBER 10, THE DATE THAT MS. DOCK HAS GIVEN YOU IS A NIGHT
MEETING.
IT WOULD BE 5:01 P.M.
IS THAT COUNCIL'S INTENTION?
2:22:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, SIR.
2:22:08PM >> CLARIFYING QUESTION, WOULD WE HAVE TO NOTICE OR IS THIS
OFFICIAL NOTICE?
MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER YET.
2:22:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR DECEMBER --
2:22:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION -- MS. JOHNSON
VELEZ --
2:22:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. DOCK OR MS. WELLS.
EITHER ONE.
2:22:26PM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

THAT WOULD REALLY BE WITH COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WHETHER YOU
WANT THE APPLICANT TO RENOTICE OR NOT.
MY RECOMMENDATION, IF THE APPLICANT IS RECEPTIVE TO
CONTINUING THIS, I WOULD JUST CONTINUE IT TO THE DATE.
IF IT WORKS FOR THEM, THE DECEMBER 10.
AT THAT POINT WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THE ORDINANCE HAS TO
GO BACK ON FIRST READING OR NOT.
2:22:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU SAY CONTINUE JUST AS IT IS AT SECOND
READING AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHETHER --
2:22:54PM >>CATE WELLS:
ONCE WE SEE THE CHANGES THEY ARE PROPOSING, WE
CAN DETERMINE WHETHER THE ORDINANCE WOULD GO BACK ON FIRST
READING.
2:23:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THAT WOULD BE HANDLED WITH STAFF.
2:23:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WOULD BE SOUND ADVICE, COUNCIL.
2:23:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COLIN, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE MORE
MINUTES.
2:23:10PM >> WE WILL ACCEPT THE CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER.
2:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO CONTINUE
FILE REZ 26-47 TO DECEMBER 10, 2026 AT 5:01 -- 501 -- SORRY.
5:01 P.M. AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
2:23:42PM >> THANK YOU.
2:23:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS MORE COMPLICATED THAN I THINK WE
ALL EXPECTED.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 63.
2:23:58PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
2:24:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
LET'S LET THE CHAMBERS CALM DOWN.
WE ARE STILL MEETING.
ARE YOU GUYS LEAVING?
OKAY, ROSS.
GO AHEAD.
2:24:33PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
PRESENTING FILE VAC-26-11.
THE APPLICANT IS SHAWN SHUMAKE.
THE REPRESENTATIVE NAME IS VICTORIA CHUNG.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 9401 NORTH 14th STREET.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
BANYAN AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF BUSCH BOULEVARD,
SOUTH OF ANNIE STREET, EAST OF 14th STREET, AND WEST OF
CSX RAILROAD.
APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH CITY OF TAMPA MARCH 30, 2026.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 18,043 SQUARE FEET.

THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST IS OWNER WOULD LIKE TO CONSTRUCT
A NEW WAREHOUSE ON PROPERTY UTILIZING THE ASSOCIATED
RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT IMPACTS THE SITE.
HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING
REQUEST.
THE PORTION OF BANYAN AVENUE TO BE VACATED IS SHOWN AS
YELLOW, AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
HERE IS THE PLAT, THIS PORTION OF BANYAN AVENUE PLATTED AND
DEDICATED.
THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS MAP SHOWING THE PORTION OF
BANYAN AVENUE TO BE VACATED, PROPOSED TO BE VACATED IN
YELLOW.
AS YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDING BANYAN.
MOST OF BANYAN TO THE SOUTH HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN VACATED.
THOSE HATCHED AREAS ARE VACATED RIGHTS-OF-WAYS.
HERE IS AN IMAGE LOOKING SOUTH FROM 14th STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY AROUND WHERE THE TELEPHONE POLES, THE
ELECTRIC POLES ARE AS YOU SEE GOING SOUTH ALONG THE CSX
RAILROAD.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST EASEMENT.
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY TECO.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH
CHAPTER 27 AS REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN
FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN ANY VACATED
AREA.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:26:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. SHELBY, I ONLY HAVE FOUR ON THE DAIS.
SHOULD I WAIT FOR FIVE?
2:27:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN PLACE SERGEANT OF ARMS
TO SEE IF AVAILABLE.
2:27:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE TO GET ONE MORE PERSON UP HERE.
2:27:45PM >> DANICA LYON.
IS MORE THAN ONE PERSON ALLOWED TO BE HERE AT A TIME?
I'M WITH MY FRIEND.
2:27:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
EACH PERSON START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:27:55PM >> MY NAME IS --
2:27:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?
2:28:01PM >> SHE IS THE OWNER.
2:28:06PM >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
2:28:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
2:28:12PM >> SHE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
I LIVED THERE APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS.
2:28:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE NOT THE APPLICANT.
SHE IS.
THIS IS HER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
2:28:20PM >> RIGHT.
SHE ASKED ME TO HELP HER SPEAK.
HER ENGLISH IS NOT THE BEST.

2:28:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE'S INTERPRETING FOR HER.
2:28:29PM >> I'M NOT THE --
2:28:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE GOING TO INTERPRET FOR HER.
I'M GOING TO TRY, YES.
2:28:39PM >> MY NAME IS DANICA LYON.
2:28:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HER NAME.
2:28:43PM >> EVA PONCE.
2:28:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE RECORD?
2:28:51PM >> MEANING EVIDENCE, YES, WE DO.
IT'S ON MY PHONE.
2:28:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT'S COMING FROM YOU, AGAIN, THAT WOULD
BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
THIS IS HER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF SHE HAS EVIDENCE.
2:29:07PM >> I DON'T SPEAK VERY WELL.
2:29:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
WHY DON'T YOU GIVE IT A SHOT.
2:29:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF SHE WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE, YOU COULD
SAY WHAT YOU WISH IN SHORT SENTENCES TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, AND
THEN SHE CAN SAY IT IN ENGLISH.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING SHE HAS TO RELAY IT TO YOU, SHE'LL DO
IT IN SHORT SENTENCES AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOURSELF
MORE FULLY.
2:29:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT YOU SPOKE ENGLISH JUST FINE.
2:29:47PM >> SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING INCORRECT.
WE'VE BEEN IGNORING ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED AND TRYING TO LIVE

PEACEABLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THE APPLICANT OWNS
HIS PROPERTY FOR HIS BUSINESS.
WHEN WE SAW THE NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING --
2:30:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE CONFUSED.
IS SHE THE ONE THAT IS ASKING FOR THIS VACATION OR LIVES
ADJACENT TO THIS?
2:30:15PM >> NO, SHE'S OPPOSING THE APPLICATION.
2:30:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEN YOU ARE BOTH PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT ONLINE FOR THIS?
IF THE TWO OF YOU COULD STEP OVER TO THE SIDE, PLEASE.
2:30:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
ARE YOU AWARE IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT?
2:30:56PM >> NO.
I THINK ROSS IS ONLINE TO ANSWER THAT.
2:31:00PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
THEY WERE INFORMED THAT THEY WERE TO EITHER
SHOW UP IN PERSON OR REGISTER TO PRESENT VIRTUALLY.
2:31:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THIS PERSON?
2:31:14PM >>ROSS SAMONS:
I HAVE NOT.
2:31:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN CITE CHAPTER AND VERSE
UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS IT BEFORE THEM.
IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT APPEAR AT A PUBLIC READING, IT
COULD BE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, IT COULD BE DEEMED WITHDRAWN.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S BEEN NOTICED FOR TODAY, OBVIOUSLY.

2:31:32PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE APPLICANT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE
VACATING SERVES A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
HIS ABSENCE HERE --
2:31:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULD THIS REQUIRE A MOTION FROM ONE OF
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WITHDRAW IT OR AUTOMATICALLY
WITHDRAWN?
2:31:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHICH IS BETTER TO MOVE FORWARD?
BETTER TO DEEM IT WITHDRAWN?
I SHOULD FIND THE SECTION.
I HAVEN'T USED IT IN A LONG TIME.
2:31:56PM >>RON WIGGINTON:
OR A CONTINUANCE.
2:31:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO REQUEST A
CONTINUANCE.
CAN YOU INQUIRE BY A SHOW OF HANDS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE
TO ADDRESS THE MATTER?
I HEARD A LOT OF NOISE BACK THERE.
THAT'S WHY.
2:32:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT'S WITHDRAWN --
2:32:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HOLD THIS FOR A MINUTE WHILE I PULL THE
SECTION.
2:32:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOING TO DELAY THE CONTINUANCE OF
THIS HEARING UNTIL AFTER WE HEAR ITEM 64.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 64.
2:32:37PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CURRENT TREE
TRUST FUND ORDINANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING AND THEN
MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.
2:32:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
2:32:56PM >>CARL BRODY:
ALL RIGHT.
FOR THE NEW TREE TRUST FUND ORDINANCE, THE FOCUS REALLY WAS
ON CLARIFYING BECAUSE SOME OF THE TERMS IN THE OLD ORDINANCE
WERE NOT CRYSTAL CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHERE TREES COULD BE
PLANTED.
WE CLARIFIED THAT WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND EXPANDED, SO THAT
THE TREES CAN BE PLANTED USING TREE TRUST FUND MONEY IN
ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS.
THAT'S ONE.
WE ALSO WANT TO CREATE MORE TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
WAS A CONCERN.
REQUIRING ANY USE OF THE TREE TRUST FUND TO COME BEFORE CITY
COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL, THAT WAY WE PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY
TO THE PUBLIC AND TRANSPARENCY TO COUNCIL.
AND THEN FINALLY TO PROVIDE SOME GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR
USE OF THE TREE TRUST FUNDS.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE.
MAKE THE TREE TRUST FUND MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE TO
GETTING TREES IN THE GROUND.
SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, WE WOULD HAVE -- WE

WOULD NOT SUGGEST MAKING CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU
ARE CONSIDERING NOW.
I KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS CHANGING TO SAY PRIMARILY TYPE
ONE AND TWO TREES.
WE HAVE A CONCERN THERE, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY
DEFINITION FOR THIS WHICH WOULD RESULT IN POTENTIALLY
CREATING UNNECESSARY CAUSE OF ACTION, UNNECESSARY CONFUSION.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE WAS TO
GET RID OF THAT CONFUSION.
BY PUTTING LANGUAGE IN STATING THAT WE'RE PRIMARILY GOING TO
PLANT TYPE ONE AND TWO TREES DOESN'T ALLOW STAFF TO COME
FORWARD BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND EXPLAIN WHAT TREES, THROUGH
MOTION, CITY COUNCIL THROUGH MOTION, EXPLAIN WHAT TREES
INTEND TO PLANT IN WHAT SPACES.
TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE IS VERY
IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.
IT WOULD CREATE SOME KIND OF CONFUSION WITH THAT, BECAUSE
THAT WOULD POSSIBLY CREATE A VIOLATION IF IT'S DETERMINED
THAT WE WEREN'T PRIMARILY PLANTING TYPE ONE AND TWO TREES.
THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION, BUT NOT LIMITED TO LANGUAGE, THAT'S
THERE FOR FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENTS TO COME
BEFORE YOU TO USE TREE TRUST FUND FOR ANY PURPOSE THAT'S
GOING TO ADVANCE THE PURPOSES OF THE TREE TRUST FUND THAT'S
PROVIDED, WHICH IS PLANTING MORE TREES IN THE CITY.
FINALLY, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT YOUR APPROVAL OF IT.

WE THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE
IT CREATES THAT TRANSPARENCY.
HAS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
THAT MEANS THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE CHANGE IS COMING.
YOU CAN REVIEW IT AND GET TO APPROVE IT, AND YOU GET TO ASK
QUESTIONS, AND IT JUST CREATES MORE OF AN OPEN FORUM FOR
UNDERSTANDING THE PLANS FOR PLANTING TREES IN THE CITY ARE.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING
AS DRAFTED, AND ALSO IF YOU APPROVE IT, WE WOULD REQUEST
THAT YOU BRING IT BACK OCTOBER 15.
WE REQUEST THAT EXTENDED TIME BECAUSE ANOTHER PURPOSE IS FOR
US TO PROVIDE THIS ORDINANCE TO REVENUE AND FINANCE SO THEY
CAN DO A STUDY TO DETERMINE ACCURATE 2026 TREE MITIGATION
FEE WOULD BE.
BECAUSE THE LAST TIME THE FEE WAS UPDATED WAS IN 2009.
FOR THOSE PURPOSES WE JUST REQUEST YOU TO APPROVE THE
ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED AND BRING IT BACK ON OCTOBER 15.
2:36:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:36:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT FOR
ALL THE FOLKS FROM T-TAG AND OTHERS THAT HAVE THE CONCERNS,
I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SET UP A PHONE CALL WITH MR. BRODY TO GO
THROUGH.
YOU EXPLAINED WHY NOT ON SOME OF THEM, BUT MAYBE WE COULD
SET UP A CALL WITH T-TAG AND HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION

THAT MIGHT END UP IN SOME ADDITIONAL EDITS LATER.
SORRY TO KEEP THE PROCESS GOING.
FOR NOW, SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
2:37:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN
TO THE ITEM?
GO AHEAD.
2:37:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. BRODY, YOU ANSWERED WHAT I WAS GOING
TO BRING UP.
IN REGARDS TO T-TAG'S OBJECTIONS, ONE REGARDING THE
PRIMARILY TYPE ONE AND TWO.
YOU SAID IT WOULD CREATE CONFUSION.
THE BUT NOT LIMITED TO, TO LEAVE IT IN THERE.
AND THE QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS HOW MUCH OF THE
MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON PLANS, LIKE $151,000, I THINK.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED, WHY IS IT NOT ALL GOING TO TREES,
NUMBER ONE?
ANOTHER THING, AND YOU SAID FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY,
THE TREE TRUST FUND MAY BE USED FOR FUNDING DEPARTMENT
REQUEST UPON CITY COUNCIL MOTION AND APPROVAL OF AN AGENDA
ITEM.
THE PEOPLE CAN SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING, IF THERE ARE
ANY CHANGES MADE.
BUT THESE WERE THE OBJECTIONS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP.
YOU'VE REBUTTED THAT ALREADY AND EXPLAINED IT, EVEN BEFORE I
MENTIONED EVERYTHING, BECAUSE YOU TOOK NOTES.

SO THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
THANK YOU.
2:38:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE?
TREE HUGGER POYNOR.
ARE YOU A TREE HUGGER NOW?
2:38:35PM >> NO, I'M NOT A TREE HUGGER BUT MY FRIENDS ARE.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO SAY
PRIMARILY TYPE ONE AND TWO TREES BECAUSE THERE IS A LIST.
HERE'S TYPE ONE.
HERE'S TYPE TWO.
OVER HERE IS TYPE THREE.
IT SHOULDN'T BE VERY CONFUSING.
MAYBE YOU WANT TO PUT IN A PERCENTAGE.
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETHING THAT'S BLACK AND WHITE,
WHICH THESE ARE TYPE ONE, THESE ARE TYPE TWO, THESE ARE TYPE
THREE.
THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY DISCUSSION, DEBATE, OR ANYTHING ELSE
TO ADDRESS THAT THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT WHICH ONE IS
WHICH.
MAYBE YOU WANT TO PUT IN 10%, 20%, 50%, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE KEEP DRAGGING THIS JOKER OUT.

AS CARROLL ANN POINTED OUT THIS MORNING, THIS MONEY IS NOT
PUT ASIDE FOR MAKING PLANS OR PLANTING AROUND FRICKIN'
VETERANS MEMORIALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS TO REPOPULATE OUR TREE POPULATION.
IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS HARD.
REALLY SHOULD NOT BE.
YOU CAN PASS IT FOR A YEAR.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, TOO.
THESE LADIES HAVE DONE A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT OF HOMEWORK.
I GENERALLY DON'T GET UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THEY ALREADY
HAVE.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THESE LADIES DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK
AND TALKED ABOUT THIS STUFF AND TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS
STUFF.
AND THEY LIVE AND BREATHE IT.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, YOU GOT A POT OF MONEY.
AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE WITH IT.
HELL, I CAN'T EVEN GET TREES AT THE GCA FOR GOD SAKES.
THERE ARE PLACES ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT NRAC IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
UNTIL YOU START MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD INSTEAD OF PUTTING
ON THE BACK BURNER.
SORRY, TYPE THREE TREES, TYPE THREE TREES, SICK OF HEARING
ABOUT THEM.
IF WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER, THEN WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH
THIS, IT'S KIND OF VAGUE.
WELL, MAKE IT CONCRETE.
YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A MOTION TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT ABOUT
HOW YOU SPEND THIS MONEY.
IT CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE, LET'S DON'T SPEND IT LET'S WAIT
ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO TO GET OUR -- TOGETHER.
2:40:58PM >> COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI.
THE BUILDERS PUT THE MONEY INTO THE ACCOUNT.
THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT, BUT TRANSPORTING AND MOVING
THAT BETWEEN ACCOUNTS SHOULD BE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
WE'VE SEEN WHERE THE CITY SEEMS TO LIKE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND
SORT OF WILLY-NILLY.
I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT.
TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO TREES.
I'LL LET CARROLL ANN AND CREW FIGHT THAT FIGHT.
BUT THE MONEY IS THERE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE TRANSPORTED OR MOVED AND USED FOR ALTERNATE
PURPOSES.
THANK YOU.
2:41:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:41:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO STRIKE THE "BUT NOT LIMITED TO."
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE THE "BUT NOT LIMITED TO,"

WHICH IS LINE ITEM 29 ON PAGE 2.
IT'S SECTION D, SUBSECTION 1.
2:41:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
DISCUSSION?
2:42:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHEN YOU LOOK, I HEARD TYPE ONE, TYPE TWO
TREES.
2:42:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT.
SELECTION, ACQUISITION, INSTALLATION, AND MAINTENANCE OF
TREES SHALL INCLUDE SITE PREPARATION, SOIL AMENDMENT,
FERTILIZATION, IRRIGATION, SUSPENDED PAVEMENT SYSTEM, TREE
GRATES AND TREE GUARDS.
THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO EXPAND BEYOND THAT.
WHEN YOU SAY BUT NOT LIMITED TO.
THE IDEA IS TO TAKE OUT THE "BUT NOT LIMITED TO" TO FOCUS
SOLELY ON PLANTING TREES.
2:42:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:42:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
MR. BRODY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT?
2:42:41PM >>CARL BRODY:
ONLY RESPONSE I WOULD HAVE IS WE COULD STRIKE
THAT.
THE ONLY PURPOSE OF BUT NOT LIMITED TO IS TO PROVIDE MORE
FLEXIBILITY FOR CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF THE USES.
SOME TANGENTIAL USES THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE SPECIFICALLY

DESIGNATED.
2:42:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT YOU CAN COME HERE AND ASK US FOR THAT IF
YOU NEED THAT.
2:42:59PM >>CARL BRODY:
WELL, WE COULDN'T.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO REMEMBER.
WE'RE STILL LIMITED, WHEN I SAY WE, CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE
STILL GOING TO BE LIMITED BY THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE.
2:43:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S BY DESIGN.
2:43:15PM >>CARL BRODY:
WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THE ORDINANCE SAYS WE
CAN ONLY USE IT FOR THOSE SEVEN CATEGORIES, CITY COUNCIL
CAN'T BREACH WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE ARE.
2:43:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I'M STILL FINE WITH THAT.
2:43:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT REMOVES FLEXIBILITY.
2:43:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:43:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
HEARING NONE, THIS IS A VOTE ON COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION
TO STRIKE "BUT NOT LIMITED TO."
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:43:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
PAGE NUMBER 3, LINE 26 AND 27, THE TREE TRUST
FUND MAY BE USED FOR FUNDING DEPARTMENT REQUESTS UPON CITY
COUNCIL MOTION AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM.

THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
2:44:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
2:44:06PM >>CARL BRODY:
WE PUT THAT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY SO THERE
WOULD BE THAT ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY AS TO WHAT
THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR.
THAT'S WHY THAT IS THERE.
2:44:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUST CODIFIES WHAT WE WANT.
2:44:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, BUT SEE, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE
THERE.
2:44:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE
THOUGH?
2:44:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANT TO TAKE IT OUT.
2:44:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS IT PROBLEMATIC?
2:44:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I FIND IT PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE DEPARTMENT
REQUESTS UPON CITY COUNCIL MOTION COULD BE LITERALLY
ANYTHING.
IT COULD BE ANY TYPES OF TREES.
ANY TYPE OF THING.
I REALLY THINK THAT FOR NOW INITIALLY WE NEED TO BE PLANTING
WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO PLANT, WHICH IS REPLACING THE
TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT NECESSARILY PART OF A
DEPARTMENT PROJECT, BUT JUST REPLACING THE TREES.
2:45:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY PROBLEMS WITH REMOVING THAT?
2:45:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OF COURSE, THEY WILL HAVE PROBLEMS.
I WAS IN THE BACK LISTENING.

2:45:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT PROBLEM WOULD YOU HAVE WITH THAT?
2:45:13PM >>CARL BRODY:
I'M GOOD.
THE ORDINANCE IS YOUR ORDINANCE.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS REALLY WAS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND PROVIDE
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE DIRECT APPROVAL OVER
THE USE OF THE FUNDS.
IF THAT'S NOT DESIRED, WE WILL STRIKE IT.
2:45:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE
FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:45:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
BACK ON PAGE 2, LINE NUMBER 26, IT SAYS THAT YOU ADDED THAT
YOU CAN PLANT ON SELECTED SCHOOL BOARD HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
OWNED LAND UPON REQUEST -- UPON REQUEST FROM NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATIONS TO PLANT AND MAINTAIN UP TO TEN TREES ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I WANTED TO CHANGE TEN TREES TO TEN TREES ANNUALLY.
THERE ARE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS AND
RUN WITH IT AND REALLY BE ABLE TO PLANT MORE TREES EVERY
YEAR.

I'M AFRAID THAT BY SAYING TEN TREES IN PERPETUITY, THAT'S
GOING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM PLANTING.
I THINK THAT SETTING -- ON LINE 26 SAYS AND MAINTAIN UP TO
TEN TREES.
I WANT THE WORD ANNUALLY PUT AFTER THAT, BECAUSE THERE WILL
BE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY WANT TO PLANT MORE
THAN TEN TREES A YEAR.
2:46:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S MAKES SO MUCH SENSE I'M NOT GOING
TO ASK YOUR OPINION ON THAT.
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
2:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M FINE WITH LEAVING OUT PRIMARILY TYPE ONE
AND TYPE TWO TREES.
I THINK I'M HAPPY WITH WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.
IF THERE ARE MORE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DEBATE, WE CAN DO
THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
2:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM?
WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ -- THIS IS YOUR BABY.
WHY DON'T YOU READ THIS.
2:47:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER
16, ARTICLE V, SECTION 16-86 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE TREE
TRUST FUND PROVIDING FOR ANNUAL DISTRIBUTION OF TREE TRUST
FUND MONIES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM AND
OTHERS -- DON'T KNOW WHY IT JUST TREE-MENDOUS, REPEALING ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH,
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:47:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM HURTAK, SECOND IN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
COME BACK FOR SECOND READING ON OCTOBER 15, 2026.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:47:44PM >>CARL BRODY:
THANK YOU.
2:47:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE IS OUR LAWYER?
OKAY.
IT WAS PULLED FOR SEPARATE VOTE.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE UPDATE?
2:48:11PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
RICHARD MUTTERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
HERE TO GIVE AN UPDATE PER COUNCILMAN VIERA'S REQUEST
REGARDING THE K-BAR PARKWAY CUT-THRU STATUS.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL THIS IS A DEVELOPER PROJECT.
THIS IS NOT A CITY PROJECT.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT OR CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
TO ENFORCE, WHICH LIMITS OUR CONTROL AND LEVERAGE SOMEWHAT
IN THIS CASE.
BUT I DID REACH OUT TO THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.
HE GAVE -- YESTERDAY, HE GAVE AN UPDATE AT THIS TIME THE
ENTIRE ROAD HAS RECEIVED THE FIRST LIFT OF ASPHALT AND
OFF-STREET LIGHTS INSTALLED, VERY CLOSE TO COMPLETING, BUT
RAINS AND TESTING DELAYS HAVE HAD AN IMPACT.
I ASKED FOR A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
AS OF THIS MORNING, AS OF THIS WEEK, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD
WITH TESTING AND CERTIFICATION.
EXPECT THAT TO BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, FLUSHING
AND TESTING WEEK OF 9/21.
AFTER TESTING COMPLETE, MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE
PROJECT, FINALIZE THE TESTING FOR FORMAL CERTIFICATION.
ONCE UTILITIES ARE TESTED AND ACCEPTED, WE EXPECT THE
CONTRACTOR TO FINALIZE THE SECOND LIFT OF ASPHALT AND MOVE
TOWARDS CITY INSPECTIONS FOR FORMAL --
2:49:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. MUTTERBACK.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU.
ALWAYS A NICE GUY AND A PROFESSIONAL.
ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOU.
I HAVE SOME CHALLENGES.

NUMBER ONE, WHENEVER IT COMES TO THE CONTRACTOR, THINGS GET
DELAYED, STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPENS.
SOME RAIN ISSUES, ET CETERA.
LET ME ASK YOU, IF I MAY, WHAT DATE ARE THEY GIVING US AS AN
APPROXIMATE DATE?
2:49:50PM >>RICHARD MUTTERBACK:
DIDN'T GIVE AN ACTUAL DATE.
HE SAID, PUSHING HARD FROM ALL SIDES, PROBABLY WITHIN A
MONTH TO HAVE THE SECOND LIFT OF ASPHALT.
2:50:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY BIG CHALLENGE IS THAT WE'RE SEEING THIS, TO
THE EXTENT WE INQUIRE ON THIS ISSUE, SEEING IT AS
CONSTRUCTION COMPLIANCE ISSUE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
YOU KNOW THIS, OBVIOUSLY, SIR, AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE
KNOWS THIS, WHICH IS THAT THE NEW TAMPA HAS THE LONGEST
RESPONSE TIMES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE STATIONS, LONGEST RESPONSE TIME.
WHEN I ASKED THE FIRE CHIEF A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THE BEST
WAY TO ADDRESS THAT I WAS TOLD A CUT-THRU.
FROM THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION AND OBSERVATION, NO ONE IN
THE ADMINISTRATION REALLY KNEW THE STATUS OF THIS CUT-THRU,
WHICH WE WERE JUST TOLD IS THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE RESPONSE
TIMES.
LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES.
MAJOR ISSUES OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
I THEN FOUND OUT IT WAS ABOUT HALFWAY DONE, WHICH IS

MARVELOUS, LOVELY, RIGHT.
THEN WE'RE TOLD ABOUT SEPTEMBER 15, WHICH IS GREAT.
THE DATE COMES, I DO THE MEMO AROUND THAT TIME, I THINK
MONDAY OR TUESDAY, THAT SET STUFF OFF.
IN TERMS OF THOSE E-MAILS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
MY ISSUE IS THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY PROACTIVE AND
AGGRESSIVE.
WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IT IS WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE JURISDICTION ON ENFORCEMENT, WE
CERTAINLY DO HAVE OUR BULLY PULPIT, WHICH IS THIS IS A
MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN A
PROMISE IS GIVEN ON A CONTRACT AND ON -- STRIKE THAT, A ROAD
PROJECT, THAT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES FOR
WHOLE REASON, 33647 THAT WE ARE ALL ON IT.
I SURE AS HECK WAS ON IT BECAUSE THAT DATE WAS BURNED IN MY
BRAIN AS WELL AS IN THE MEMORIES IN THE HEADS OF OTHER FOLKS
IN 33647.
SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS A SENSE OF REAL AGGRESSIVE
EMERGENCY ON THIS.
THIS IS ABC PUBLIC SAFETY.
THIS IS A VERY, VERY BIG DEAL.
NEW TAMPA, WE PAY OUR TAXES ON TIME.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THE FIRE
RESPONSE THERE IS ON TIME.
AND THIS ISN'T A BIG THING TO DO.

AGAIN, IT IS THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OR AWARENESS ORIGINALLY.
MY MEMO SET OFF A WHOLE CHAIN OF EVENTS.
I WANT THOSE CHAIN OF EVENTS TO CONTINUE TO GO.
I'M GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO CHECK UP ON THIS.
STAY VERY, VERY CLOSE ON IT.
AGAIN, THAT'S MY FRUSTRATION.
FOR THE CONTRACTOR, THINGS GET DELAYED.
I'M NOT OUT TO SCAPEGOAT THEM OR ANYBODY.
I WANT THE SENSE OF VIGOR URGENCY FOR NEW TAMPA.
THAT'S ALL.
WE'LL CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE WITH THE CONTRACTOR, AND
HOPEFULLY HAVE IT IN A MONTH.
AGAIN, DELAYS HAPPEN.
THAT'S FINE.
I WANT TO SEE THAT SENSE OF URGENCY BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG
DEAL.
RICHARD, ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.
ALWAYS A GENTLEMAN.
THANK YOU, SIR.
2:52:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOW WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE TWO ITEMS
PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEMS 12 AND 13.
YES, SIR.
2:53:08PM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ERIC DeFELICE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I AM HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU
MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GRANT TO THE
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF FUNDS FOR THE
PURCHASE OF PEREGRINE.
2:53:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY
IS?
2:53:29PM >> I CAN START BY SAYING WHAT IT IS NOT.
IT IS NOT A CAMERA OR SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.
IT IS A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO INTEGRATE OUR
DATA INTO IT.
THEN IT COLLECTS IT, SIFTS IT, SORTS IT AND PUTS IT OUT TO
US TO ALLOW US BETTER UTILIZE OUR RESOURCES AND CONNECT THE
DOTS.
2:53:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT DATA?
WHERE IS THE DATA DERIVED FROM?
2:53:51PM >> OUR INTERNAL PROGRAM, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH, RMS RECORD
KEEPING, BWC, BODY WORN CAMERA, AND ANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT
WE CAN PUT IN.
WE TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
WE HAVE IT UPLOADED INTO THE SOFTWARE, AND THEN IT GOES
THROUGH IT AND IS ABLE TO CONNECT DOTS THAT TYPICALLY WOULD
TAKE A LONG TIME FOR A HUMAN TO DO.
2:54:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRAFFIC CAMERAS?
2:54:16PM >> THOSE AREN'T OURS SO I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE
INCLUDED.

2:54:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO FBI DATA.
2:54:25PM >> NO.
2:54:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO ANY OTHER DATA.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION BECOMES, I MEAN, CAN WE GUARANTEE
IT'S NOT TRAFFIC DATA?
I MEAN THIS IS SOLELY INTERNAL.
NOTHING EXTERNAL AT ALL.
2:54:38PM >> WHEN YOU SAY TRAFFIC DATA, IT COULD BE TRAFFIC DATA THAT
WE COLLECT AS FAR AS --
2:54:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CAMERAS.
2:54:44PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
WE DON'T OWN IT, PUTTING IT IN THERE, THAT WOULD BE
SOMETHING THE CITY DEPARTMENT IN CHARGE OF THAT WOULD HAVE
TO DO.
2:54:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I KNOW THE CONTRACT IS COMING IN TWO WEEKS.
FOR US TO APPROVE.
I WOULD REALLY PREFER TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THEN SO WE CAN
GET THE SPECIFIC ANSWERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
2:55:10PM >> THAT WOULD BE FINE.
ANYTHING ELSE, MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
2:55:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I THOUGHT IT WAS
COMING BACK, I BELIEVE MS. NEWCOMB.
2:55:25PM >> AIMING FOR NOVEMBER 5.
2:55:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
NOVEMBER 5?

2:55:29PM >> SURE.
YES, BECAUSE THIS IS ACCEPTING THE GRANT.
ACTUAL PROGRAM CONTRACT HASN'T BEEN --
2:55:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAY WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER.
I MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS 12 AND 13 TO THE NOVEMBER 5th DATE
TO BE NEXT TO THE CONTRACT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
2:55:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
CONTINUE ITEMS 12 AND 13 TO NOVEMBER 5, 2026, TO RIDE
ALONGSIDE THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.
IS THERE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR A QUESTION.
2:56:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
TO YOU ALL OVER HERE.
TELL ME AGAIN EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES.
THIS IS NOT CAMERAS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE --
2:56:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE IT OFF LINE FOR QUESTIONS BETWEEN
NOW --
2:56:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, DO I HAVE A QUESTION.
BRASS TACKS, DO YOU ALL OBJECT TO THE CONTINUANCE?
WILL IT PUT ANY SORT OF BUDGETARY ISSUES WITH PUBLIC SAFETY,
STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT RISK.
BECAUSE IF THERE IS ANY POTENTIAL OF THAT, THEN I WILL NOT
SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE.

2:56:41PM >> FRANKLY, COUNCILMAN, IT'S UNCLEAR.
THIS IS AN ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT FROM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE.
IT IS A GRANT COMING FROM THE STATE.
SO I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING IN THE GRANT THAT REQUIRES
US TO ACCEPT IT IN FISCAL YEAR 2026.
IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR FROM READING THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT ON FOR 2026 JUST TO BE PRUDENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE AS LONG AS THIS IS PURCHASED BETWEEN JULY OF
THIS YEAR AND JUNE OF 2027, THEN I BELIEVE THAT THE GRANT
FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE.
THAT'S MY BEST UNDERSTANDING.
BUT THAT WAS THE THOUGHT BEHIND VOTING ON JUST ACCEPTING
THIS GRANT FIRST AND THEN WHEN THE DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT
COME BEFORE COUNCIL, AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK, WE ARE HAPPY TO PRESENT INDIVIDUALLY TO YOU ALL WHAT
THIS PROGRAM IS, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN BECAUSE IT REALLY IS
JUST A DATA-SHARING PLATFORM.
I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.
THERE COULD BE AN ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S CLEARLY AN ISSUE, BUT THAT WAS OUR
REASONING OF PUTTING IT ON TODAY JUST FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF
THE GRANT, NOT AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE CONTRACT.
2:57:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AGAIN, DOES THIS CONTINUANCE IN ANY WAY
HINDER --

2:57:46PM >> IT COULD.
IT COULD.
2:57:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
2:57:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:57:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ASSUMING THAT THE CONTINUANCE GOES THROUGH,
WE GOT ONE E-MAIL FROM SOMEONE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
BEING CONNECTED TO NATIONAL IMMIGRATION DATABASES AND
SEARCHING.
WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT FOR
WHOEVER IS INTERESTED IN IT.
2:58:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE
THIS TO NOVEMBER 5, 2026.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:58:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH I.C.E. AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL?
I'VE BEEN TOLD NO.
I JUST WANT A CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT.
2:58:24PM >> IT DOES NOT.
2:58:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY.
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
IF IT DID, I WOULD VOTE HELL NO.

VERY IMPORTANT.
JUST TO GET THAT OFF THE TABLE.
THANK YOU.
2:58:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT TO GO INTO A RABBIT HOLE, BUT TO
CLARIFY SINCE YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT WAY.
IF THIS IS DATA COMPILATION AND WE ARE OBLIGATED THROUGH
287(g) FOR COOPERATION, HOW CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY THAT IT'S
NOT A POSSIBILITY?
2:58:50PM >> WELL, WE DETERMINE --
2:58:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANSWER THE QUESTION AT THE NEXT HEARING.
2:58:56PM >> WE WOULD DETERMINE WHO THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH.
PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL ORDER, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH
IT.
2:59:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
VERY GOOD.
2:59:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
UNDER THAT ORDER, CITY CELL PHONE COULD BE
SUBJECT TO THAT.
THIS DATA, ANYTHING COULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT.
THAT FOR ME THAT IS A UNIQUELY DIFFERENT ISSUE WHICH THIS IS
NOT DATA SHARED WITH I.C.E. AS A MATTER OF COURSE AND SCOPE.
2:59:26PM >> TO CLARIFY THAT, ALL THE DATA THAT WOULD BE IN THIS
PLATFORM WE ALREADY OWN.
IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A REQUEST MADE FOR IT, WE WOULD
ALREADY HAVE IT.
2:59:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THIS IS PRUDENT,

IF THE INTENT IS TO CONTINUE THIS, THAT WE DO THE
CONTINUATION.
WE HAVE THE OFF-LINE CONVERSATION, GATHER THE INFORMATION
AMONGST OURSELVES AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ON NOVEMBER 5.
2:59:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO MOTION, IF IT'S OKAY WITH
EVERYONE, JUST TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY COME AND TALK TO
EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY.
THEY MIGHT DO THAT ANYWAY.
FOR THE MOTION IT MAKES IT BETTER.
3:00:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ADDED THAT TO YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.
3:00:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I WILL ADD TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, ALSO,
BEFORE IT COMES BACK THAT THEY MEET WITH EACH OF US
INDIVIDUALLY TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES, BRIEFING,
LIKE INDIVIDUAL BRIEFING.
3:00:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO I STILL HAVE A
SECOND FROM YOU ON THAT.
3:00:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IT'S FINE.
3:00:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:00:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NAY.
3:00:24PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
3:00:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HERE WE GO.

MR. SHELBY, DID YOU GET AN ANSWER?
3:00:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SOME CALL IT THAT.
3:00:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE GOING BACK TO ITEM 63.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT PRESENT.
THOSE OF YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THE AGENDA.
3:00:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES MR. SAMONS HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE
ENGINEER WHO IS CHARGED WITH THIS AND FOR WHATEVER REASON IS
NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
THIS IS NOT UNDER CHAPTER 27, BY THE WAY.
I DID FIND THAT SECTION, CHAPTER 27-150, APPEARANCE BY
APPLICANT.
BUT THIS IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION AFTER CONFERRING WITH COUNSEL, MR.
WIGGINTON, WOULD BE HAVE THIS CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 5 OF
2026.
THE TIME IS 10:30.
3:01:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
3:01:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO THE WHOLE MOTION FOR US?
3:01:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OTHER THING, AS PART OF THE CONTINUANCE IT
REQUIRES IT BE RENOTICED.
3:01:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO CONTINUE VAC 26-11 TO 10:30 A.M.
NOVEMBER 5, 2026, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602, THIRD FLOOR.
AND TO RENOTICE.

3:02:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AYES HAVE IT.
3:02:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN,
WHETHER YOU INFORM THOSE PEOPLE THAT IT HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
3:02:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WERE
LISTENING TO ITEM 63, IT WILL BE HEARD AGAIN BY THIS COUNCIL
ON NOVEMBER 5.
NOTICED AT THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
NOVEMBER 5.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET TO THOSE SOMETIME BEFORE LUNCH ON
NOVEMBER 5.
HERE WE GO.
ITEM 66, 67, 68, AND 69 WE ARE HEARING TOGETHER.
BRAD BAIRD.
3:02:53PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.
BRAD BAIRD, ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
I BELIEVE BRANDON IS PASSING OUT A HARD COPY FOR YOU ALL.
3:03:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. BAIRD, I KIND OF CONCUR WITH SOMETHING
I HEARD EARLIER AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THE SAME THING.
IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE DAIS THAT HAS NOT MADE UP THEIR MIND
ABOUT THESE ISSUES?
ANYBODY HERE WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE?

IF NOT, I WOULD SAY KEEP THE BRIEFING AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
3:03:29PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I HAVE AN ABBREVIATED PRESENTATION.
IT'S LESS THAN HALF OF THE LAST TIME.
3:03:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DON'T BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
YOU'RE NOT PERSUADING ANYBODY TODAY.
3:03:40PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
OKAY.
GOT IT.
ALL RIGHT.
WE DO HAVE OUR TEAM HERE FOR QUESTION AND ANSWER.
PLEASE HOLD THE QUESTIONS TILL THE END.
IF I COULD GET THE PRESENTATION TO BE PULLED UP, PLEASE.
.
3:04:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS UP.
THERE WE GO.
ONCE YOU START TALKING IT SHOULD POP UP.
3:04:15PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
QUICKLY, CURRENT TOTAL COSTS ARE HUNDRED MILLION POINT FOUR.
GMP IS 92.7.
YOU'VE SEEN THIS PICTURE BEFORE.
PRIMARY FEATURE IS A 10-BY-10 GRAVITY BOX TERMINATING AT THE
AMI POND.
THAT INCLUDES SECONDARY PIPELINES THAT CONNECT THE SELMON
EXPRESSWAY AND 72-INCH PIPELINE RELIEVING PARKLAND ESTATES.

IT'S ALSO A LEGACY PROJECT THAT SERVES -- WILL SERVE IN THE
FUTURE SOME OF THE DOWNSTREAM NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THAT CANNOT BE DONE WITH A FORCE MAIN AS BEEN PROPOSED.
SO WE DESIGNED THIS PROJECT FOR A FIVE-YEAR, EIGHT-HOUR
STORM.
THE CITY ENGINEERING STANDARD BY WHICH WE DESIGN FOR.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
IT'S EQUIVALENT OF 5.3-INCH RAIN IN EIGHT HOURS.
JUST ONE MONTH AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD A STORM THAT WAS
SMALLER THAN OUR DESIGN STORM.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
KEEP IN MIND, THESE ARE FOLKS THAT PAID INTO THE STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT AT LEAST TEN YEARS, FLOODED TWO OR
THREE TIMES IN SOME CASES BUT YET TO RECEIVE RELIEF.
YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE AS WELL.
YOU'VE HEARD THE RHETORIC THAT PHASE ONE PROVIDES NO RELIEF
FOR PALMA CEIA PINES.
I WANT TO STRESS THAT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, PALMA CEIA PINES HAS NUMEROUS
STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN FLOODED ON OUR DESIGN STORM AND ON
THE RIGHT NO STRUCTURES ARE FLOODED.
YOU STILL HAVE SOME STREET FLOODING.
THAT STATEMENT HAS BEEN SAID WELL OVER 10 TIMES, 20 TIMES.
IT'S NOT TRUE.
LET ME MOVE ON TO OUR QUICK -- AND I DON'T HAVE IT HERE.

ON THE MONITOR HERE -- THERE IT GOES.
YOU CAN SEE AS THE FLOODING OCCURS AT FIVE HOURS, THE
FLOODING STARTS TO GO AWAY ON THE RIGHT.
BY EIGHT HOURS ALL THE FLOODING IS GONE.
THREE HOURS.
YOU HEARD EARLIER ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS, IS OKAY, LIVE WITH
THE FLOODING FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS.
THIS IS THREE HOURS AND THE FLOODING IS GONE.
IT'S AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE DIFFERENT.
THIS ONE REITERATES THAT WE HAVE 16 FEET OF FALL FROM
PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES FLOODS.
POINTED OUT NUMEROUS TIMES THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS RESIDE IN
TWO BOWLS.
SO EVEN DURING HELENE, WHEN THE ELEVATION IN THE BAY WAS AT
8 FEET, THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE ONLY, THE FLOW WOULD HAVE
ONLY BEEN REDUCED BY 8 PERCENT.
AND THAT'S HUGE, BECAUSE I HEARD SEVERAL TIMES PEOPLE GET UP
AND SAY THAT, NO, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS STORM SURGE, THIS
PROJECT WON'T WORK.
AGAIN, THAT IS NOT TRUE.
92% OF THE FLOW.
100% OF THE FLOW WILL HAPPEN.
92% OF IT WILL BE THE SAME SPEED OR A LITTLE BIT LESS SPEED
AT 6.5 FEET PER SECOND.
SO THIS IS OUR SUCCESS STORIES.

BOTTOM LEFT IS HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY.
THAT PRESENT VALUE OF THAT IS 71 MILLION.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY IN THE RANGE OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS.
IN ALL SIX OF THESE PICTURES, THE FLOODING WAS SOLVED.
IT'S FIXED.
AND, BY THE WAY, WE'VE USED A BOX CULVERT IN ALL OF THESE
PROJECTS, AND WE'VE USED LARGE TRENCH BOXES IN ALL OF THESE
PROJECTS.
BUSINESS ASSISTANCE PLAN, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKER THAN
I DID LAST TIME.
THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT FIRST BULLET.
WE HAVE SMALLER CONSTRUCTION AREAS.
WORK WILL BE LIMITED TO SECTIONS OF ABOUT FOUR TO SIX
HUNDRED FEET.
AT 24 DIFFERENT PHASES.
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE ON A CITY PROJECT BEFORE.
WE'LL RESTORE AREAS QUICKLY BEHIND EACH SECTION THAT'S
COMPLETED.
SO AT EACH PHASE, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THAT PHASE OR THAT
SECTION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE A DEDICATED BUSINESS SUPPORT TEAM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
WITH FOUR PEOPLE THAT WILL HELP THE BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN
AND ACCESSIBLE.
THEY'LL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE MERCHANTS TO SOLVE
CONSTRUCTION RELATED ISSUES, INCLUDING COORDINATING AND

HANDLING DELIVERIES.
OF COURSE, CLEAR SIGNS, DETOURS, WE'LL MONITOR CONSTRUCTION
VIBRATION WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY EXTENSIVE.
I HEARD ONE PERSON SAY THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO A PRE-
AND POST-
WE WILL BE DOING THAT.
FOR EACH STRUCTURE ON HOWARD.
WE'LL MONITOR VIBRATION, INCLUDING MONITOR CRACKS.
IF ANY OF THEM CHANGE, WE STOP WORK.
WE FIGURE OUT A REMEDY AND THEN MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE MAINTAIN, OF COURSE, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, REDUCE
CONSTRUCTION NOISE, MARKETING SUPPORT, AND THEN WE HAVE A
SOHO OPEN CAMPAIGN TO HELP THE SMALLER BUSINESSES.
MAINTENANCE, HEARD MANY, MANY TIMES, BUT MAINTENANCE ALONE
WILL NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
THE CITY AND THE DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVE EVALUATED 24
ALTERNATIVES, INCLUDING THE FIVE ADDED BY THE BUSINESS
ALLIANCE.
THE ADDED ALTERNATIVES, ALL OF THEM ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, LESS
FEASIBLE TO BUILD, MORE DISRUPTIVE, LESS EFFECTIVE.
NONE OF THEM MOVE NEAR AS MUCH WATER AS THE PROPOSED
SOLUTION.
SO THE PROPOSED PLAN EASILY PROTECTS MORE BUSINESSES, HOMES,
AND FAMILIES THAN ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
GETTING TOWARD THE END, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE SOHO BUSINESS

ALLIANCE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE TODAY.
PART OF IT CHANGED A LITTLE BIT FROM GOING DOWN TO RUBIDEAUX
TO UPGRADING, POSSIBLY UPGRADING WITH NO SIZE MENTIONED, THE
CLEVELAND SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, THE VAULTS DIDN'T CHANGE.
AND THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT DIDN'T CHANGE.
FIRST, IT DOES NOT ACHIEVE THE PROJECT'S FLOOD RELIEF GOALS.
IN FACT, IT DOESN'T COME CLOSE.
IT'S 35% LONGER, WHICH EQUALS MORE TIME, MORE COST.
RUNS THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DENIED BY
CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN TREE REMOVALS.
IT RELIES ON -- AND THIS IS THE BIG ONE -- THREE VAULTS AND
PUMP STATIONS, AND THOSE VAULTS WOULD BE 12-FOOT DEEP.
CONSTRUCTION OF THE AMI VAULT WOULD REQUIRE DEMOLITION OF
THE PARKING DECK OVER TOP.
THAT IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY.
PART OF IT RUNS NEXT TO CSX TRACKS.
TODAY, VERY UNLIKELY TO BE PERMITTABLE.
CSX HAS SEVERAL ISSUES.
STUDIED INTERNALLY IN 2019 AND 2020 AND REJECTED FOR THE
SAME REASONS.
TO READ MORE ON THIS, PLEASE GO TO SHS -- SH -- EXCUSE ME.
STORMWATER.COM.
TWO MORE SLIDES ON MYTH AND FACT.
LACK OF MAINTENANCE IS CAUSE OF FLOODING.

MODELING AND REAL-WORLD CONDITIONS SHOW CAPACITY IS THE
CAUSE OF THE FLOODING.
PHASE ONE DOESN'T ADDRESS PALMA CEIA PINES.
I JUST MENTIONED THIS.
IT REMOVES ALL THE STRUCTURAL FLOODING AND SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCES FLOODING IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
AGAIN, THAT'S PHASE ONE.
I'M SORRY.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT TAKES TOO LONG TO PROVIDE ANY RELIEF.
THIS IS THE SHORTEST DISTANCE ON ALL THE ALTERNATIVES AND IT
IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO PROVIDE RELIEF.
THE CITY WILL USE EMINENT DOMAIN, AGAIN, NOT TRUE.
THE BOX CAN BE BUILT WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY.
FINALLY, FOUR MORE.
THE CSX CROSSING INCLUDED IN THE GMP TODAY DOES NOT MEET CSX
TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED A RECENT E-MAIL FROM CSX OUTLINING WHAT WE
NEED TO DO.
IF WE DO THOSE THINGS, IT WILL MEET TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
THE FUNDING PLAN WIPES OUT FUNDS FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
MR. ROGERO WILL COVER THIS IN A FEW MINUTES.
THE COST BENEFIT RATIO IS NOT CLOSE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE.
ONCE AGAIN, SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE ANALYSIS INCLUDES THE ORIGINAL FIVE BY
TEN BOX CULVERT, NOT THE TEN BY TEN, PLUS A MUCH HIGHER COST
THAN WE SHOW IN THE GMP.
THE CSX SPUR SERVES MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
IT DOES NOT.
CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, AND THIS IS MY SECOND TO LAST -- I'M
SORRY.
CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
SIMPLY A YES -- THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE.
A YES VOTE TODAY MEANS WE WOULD ISSUE A NOTICE TO PROCEED IN
OCTOBER.
A NO VOTE TODAY MEANS THE GMP EXPIRES IN OCTOBER.
IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE.
AND THEN TO FINISH GOING THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE,
I'LL HIT EVERY OTHER ONE, MARCH -- SORRY, NOVEMBER, WE WOULD
START UTILITY RELOCATION OF THIS YEAR.
3:15:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRAD, CAN YOU PAUSE A SECOND.
WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE.
I CAN'T PAY ATTENTION.
3:15:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOMEBODY IS BEING REALLY LOUD.
3:16:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE THE PROCEEDINGS FOR A
MOMENT.
3:16:36PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE AFTER THIS.
3:16:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
3:16:42PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THE BIG ONE IS THE BOX CULVERT --

3:16:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LISA, WOULD YOU LOCK THAT DOOR?
IS THAT ONE LOCKED AS WELL?
3:16:58PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THE FOURTH DOT ON THIS SCHEDULE IS THE BIG
ONE.
THAT'S WHEN THE BOX CULVERT STARTS CONSTRUCTION, MARCH,
APRIL, MAY TIME FRAME AFTER GASPARILLA.
BY MAY OF 2028, WE SHOULD REACH THE CSX CROSSING.
FEBRUARY 2029, WEST MORRISON AVENUE INTERSECTION WILL BE
REACHED.
OCTOBER 2029 SWANN -- WE GET ALL THE WAY TO SWANN.
MAY 2030, PARKLAND ESTATES.
THAT'S THE 72-INCH I MENTIONED.
SEPTEMBER 2030, WE ANTICIPATE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
LAST SLIDE, IF BRANDON COULD GET THAT.
JUST LIKE YOU SAW IN THE SUCCESS STORIES, FLOODING WOULD BE
A THING OF THE PAST, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE LIST OF
BULLETS.
A PROJECT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER --
3:18:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. BAIRD, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO
STOP THE PRESENTATION.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I AM RULING THE FACTS IN OUR OFFICES THAT ARE BEING
DISRUPTIVE TO CITY COUNCIL PROCEDURES OUT OF ORDER.
I HAVE ASKED THEM TO LEAVE THE PREMISES.
THEY HAVE REFUSED TO LEAVE THE PREMISES.

I WILL CALL A RECESS.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO REMAIN IN THEIR SEATS UNTIL THIS
DISRUPTION HAS BEEN RESOLVED.
WE'RE GOING TO STOP THE PRESENTATION FOR ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
[RECESS]
3:19:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DUE TO THE DISRUPTION, WE'RE WAITING FOR
SECURITY TO CLEAR THE ROOM.
[RECESS]
3:20:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
THE SITUATION IS OUTSIDE OF THE SECURITY REALM.
I WANT YOU ALL TO REMAIN IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS UNTIL I GIVE
YOU THE ALL CLEAR.
I WILL GAVEL US BACK INTO SESSION SO WE CAN CONTINUE WITH
THE PRESENTATION.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
3:20:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
3:20:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
3:20:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
3:20:49PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
3:20:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
3:20:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
3:20:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
3:20:52PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

3:20:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD, FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
3:20:58PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
IN SUMMARY, WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST CONTRACTORS.
WE HAVE A PHASED APPROACH AND A COMPREHENSIVE BUSINESS
ASSISTANCE PLAN AND A PROJECT DESIGNED TO PICK UP FLOODING
FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS EAST AND WEST OF HOWARD.
THE PROJECT IS NOT GETTING LESS EXPENSIVE AND THE FLOODING
IS NOT GOING AWAY.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU, AND WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS OR YOU CAN TURN IT
OVER TO MR. ROGERO TO DO THE FUNDING PLAN.
3:21:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR COUNCIL, THIS IS MY PROPOSAL.
I DO BELIEVE, AS I ASKED EARLIER BEFORE WE STARTED, I THINK
MOST EVERYBODY HAS MADE UP THEIR MIND.
I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS DO A FIVE-MINUTE ROUND AND THEN
JUST CALL FOR THE VOTE.
FIVE-MINUTE ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS, WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO DO AND THEN CALL FOR THE VOTE.
IS EVERYBODY AMENABLE TO THAT?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I SAW YOUR LIGHT FIRST.
MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, HURTAK.
3:22:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT.
WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG?
CAN'T BE TWO WRONGS AND TWO RIGHTS.
WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND YOU HEAR

PART OF THE TESTIMONY THAT I HEARD, WHAT ABOUT FLOODING IN
MY AREA.
I GOT NEWS FOR ALL OF US.
THIS FLOODING IS IN A LOT OF AREAS AND WE HAVE TO START
SOMEWHERE.
IF WE DON'T START, GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FINISH.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO START HERE.
I REALIZE WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO, YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I REALIZE WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
THE LAST THREE DAYS, BUT FLOODING IS EVERYWHERE.
PART OF IT IS OUR FAULT.
ALL OF US, FOR GETTING NATURE AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
NATURE.
THIS IS THE RESULT THAT WE GET, NOT ONLY HERE.
LOOK THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
LOOK THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WORLD WHAT'S HAPPENING.
ALL THE EARTHQUAKES.
WE NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE.
NEVER HAD THE FLOODING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
NEVER HAD THE RAINFALL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN DIFFERENT
STATES.
SO HAPPENS THIS IS ONE IN TAMPA.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
TODAY, IF I LOOK AT EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE, HAD A
WONDERFUL OPINION.

I GUARANTEE YOU IF I PUT THOSE WHO WERE FOR TO BE AGAINST
AND THOSE AGAINST TO BE FOR, I'D HAVE THE SAME RESULT FOR
THE PUBLIC.
STAND-STILL, ZERO.
NO GO FORWARD AND NO GO BACKWARDS.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SOONER OR LATER.
SOONER JUST ARRIVED.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
3:23:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:23:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE HERE OF HOW IT STARTS FROM
BAYSHORE AND IT WORKS ITS WAY UP.
FROM WHAT I ADDED UP, BY THE DAYS BY PHASE, WE DON'T REACH
SWANN FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS OR SO.
3:23:46PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THAT IS CORRECT.
3:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AT THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY AND HOWARD IS
THE LONGEST PERIOD OF CLOSURE WHICH PHASES NINE AND TEN
TOGETHER LEAD UP TO LIKE SIX MONTHS.
FOUR MONTHS PLUS TWO MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S 130 DAYS PLUS 50
DAYS. RIGHT AROUND THERE.
THAT'S A LONG TIME.
HOWEVER, ON MORRISON, MORRISON WILL BE KEPT OPEN DURING THAT
TIME.
I SEE A NOD FROM KIMMINS.

THERE ARE I BELIEVE NO TRUCK SIGNS ON MORRISON.
YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE FOOD DELIVERY AND SOLID WASTE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
IF THERE ARE NO TRUCK SIGNS, WILL THOSE BE TEMPORARILY
REMOVED TO ALLOW PASSAGE CONSIDERING THE SITUATION WE HAVE?
3:24:37PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO -- SO NO LARGE TRUCKS, I
BELIEVE.
NO H 20 TRUCKS, IS THAT CORRECT?
SO THE DELIVERY TRUCKS COULD COME IN THAT WAY AND THEN
KIMMINS' EQUIPMENT WOULD HANDLE THE DELIVERY TO AND FROM THE
ESTABLISHMENTS.
3:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY QUESTION, AND I ASKED THIS THE OTHER
DAY TO SOMEONE ELSE.
PALMA CEIA PINES HAS SIGNIFICANT FLOODING.
PARKLAND ESTATES HAS SIGNIFICANT FLOODING.
WE DON'T GET TO SWANN AND HOWARD AND THEN TO THAT AREA FOR
TWO YEARS.
IF EVERYTHING GOES TO PLAN ON SCHEDULE AS WE TALKED ABOUT,
IF THERE IS A YES VOTE TODAY, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEANTIME?
IF WE HAVE HEAVY RAINFALL, DOES IT CONTINUE TO FLOOD UNTIL
WE GET TO THAT POINT?
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S A CAPACITY ISSUE, AND WE DON'T HAVE
THE DRAINAGE TO ALLEVIATE THAT.
SOMEONE SAID THE OTHER DAY, AS WE WORK OUR WAY UP HOWARD, IT
WILL ALLEVIATE THE FLOODING.

BUT IF THERE'S NO CONNECTION FOR TWO YEARS, IF EVERYTHING
GOES ON SCHEDULE, HOW IS ANY OF THE FLOODING -- THEY ARE
GOING TO BE FLOODING FOR THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS UNTIL
WE GET THERE, OR IS SOMETHING ELSE TAKING PLACE?
3:25:51PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
THEY WILL BE FLOODING IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
3:25:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT WAS SAID EARLIER, WHEN IT FLOODED I
THINK 2015, 2016 AND THEN WITH THE HURRICANES, WHAT CHANGED
11 YEARS AGO, OTHER THAN WE PASSED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
ASSESSMENT AND EVERYTHING IN 2016.
WHY DID IT START FLOODING IN 2015?
WHAT TRIGGERED THAT?
WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHEN I USED TO GO
TO SCHOOL THERE AND HANG OUT THERE IN THE '90s, I DON'T
REMEMBER ANY OF THAT FLOODING 30 YEARS AGO.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID A LOT HAS CHANGED IN 30 YEARS AND A
LOT MORE BUILDING 30 YEARS AGO.
BUT IN '15 IS WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED THAT PARKLAND FLOODED
SIGNIFICANTLY.
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT EVER SINCE.
WHAT CHANGED?
3:26:37PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
SO TWO THINGS.
STORMS HAVE BECOME MORE INTENSE AND, YES, WE HAVE HAD MORE
IMPERVIOUS.
WITH THAT, I'LL LET AMANDA ADD.
3:26:50PM >> AMANDA PHILIPS.

DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL.
ALL THE IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT'S BEEN PUT OUT THERE.
3:26:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT
CLEVELAND STREET AND THAT BEING BACKED UP AND THAT PUSHING
THE WATER INTO PALMA CEIA PINES WHICH THEN ROLLS SOUTH AND
GOES INTO PARKLAND.
DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT?
IS IT A LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR OVERTAXED SYSTEM BECAUSE OF
ALL THE DEVELOPMENT?
I'M TALKING ABOUT CLEVELAND.
3:27:13PM >> CLEVELAND STREET.
IT'S ALSO THE SAME ISSUE WITH DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOW UNDERSIZED.
SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT COMES INTO PALMA CEIA PINES
CAN'T LEAVE QUICK ENOUGH, SO IT BACKS UP INTO.
3:27:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THERE'S NO WAY INSTEAD OF TACKLING THIS
AS SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT THAT WE NOT FOCUS ON CLEVELAND?
I UNDERSTAND IT WILL PROBABLY BE MUCH LONGER GOING IN THE
OTHER DIRECTION, BUT WOULDN'T THAT MAKE SENSE TO ALLEVIATE
THAT PRESSURE SO THAT WATER DOESN'T KEEP GOING SOUTH?
3:27:41PM >> WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT, WE WOULD
NOW HAVE TWO OUTFALLS.
IT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER.
3:27:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL END WITH, WE LOOKED AT OTHER
SUCCESS STORIES.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THAT STORMWATER VOTE, AND THAT WAS
EXCITING, TOO.
BUT DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON, AND I DID GO TO CHRIST THE
KING MANY YEARS AGO, AND MY DAD HAD HIS BUSINESS RIGHT THERE
AT NEPTUNE AND DALE MABRY.
I SAW THE FLOODING FOREVER.
THAT WAS FIXED.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD OF FLOODING SINCE.
YES, THERE WILL BE WATER ON DALE MABRY, BUT WHEN -- AND THIS
WAS A KIMMINS PROJECT, I BELIEVE.
WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON, IT WAS DONE IN
LIKE A 48 HOUR PERIOD, IS THAT CORRECT?
IT WAS VERY QUICK TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION FOR A
TOTAL SHUTDOWN.
IS THAT RIGHT?
3:28:28PM >> JOHN SAID THAT WAS CORRECT.
3:28:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
THE THING WITH THAT IS YOU HAVE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST
DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON, AND YOU HAVE OTHER ACCESS POINTS.
THE DIFFERENCE WITH HOWARD IS, AND THIS WHOLE AREA, YOU HAVE
DEAD END STREETS, ONE-WAY STREETS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
CROSSTOWN WHICH CREATES THIS -- WHERE THE EPICUREAN IS AT
AND ALL THE AREA, MORRISON IS A CUT-THRU, BUT THE CROSSTOWN
THAT DIVIDES IT THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT, NOT JUST FOR
THE BUSINESSES, BUT THEN FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS.
WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO ALLEVIATE THE
FLOODING, LIKE AN IMMEDIATE FIX NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING
TO BE WAITING FOR YEARS UNTIL THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT GETS
TO SWANN.
THERE'S NOTHING, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE
HURRICANES.
IT'S NOT A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
IT'S NOT AN AMI POND ISSUE.
I'VE HEARD SO MANY THINGS, BUT NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO
IMMEDIATELY.
3:29:25PM >> YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE OUTFALL BIGGER WHERE THE WATER GOES
BIGGER FIRST TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ALLEVIATION IN PARKLAND
AND PALMA CEIA.
EITHER DIRECTION YOU GO.
3:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:29:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO.
CHAIR IS OUT.
I'M CHAIRING, BUT IT'S MY TURN SO I'LL GO.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ROGERO.
BECAUSE WE HEARD QUITE A BIT FROM EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS
TODAY.
SO I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 1.5 MILLION FOR THE
BROADWAY AVENUE PROJECT THAT THOSE RESIDENTS REALLY WANT TO
MAKE SURE GOES THROUGH.

WILL WE STILL HAVE ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO DO THAT
PROJECT IF WE DO THIS PROJECT?
3:30:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
WE INTENDED TO USE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS AVAILABLE BALANCE
FROM THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND AND I'LL DEFER TO STORMWATER, BUT I UNDERSTAND
THAT A WAY HAS BEEN FOUND TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROJECT
WITHOUT THIS BALANCE FUNDING WE WERE GOING TO USE.
IS THAT ACCURATE?
3:30:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR YOU.
FOR ME, I HEARD A LOT TODAY ABOUT THE LOSS -- THE COST OF
BUSINESS LOSS FOR HOWARD.
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT
STUDY.
BUT WHAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY
FOR HOW MUCH HAS BEEN LOST ALREADY FOR THE BUSINESSES ON
SWANN, FOR THE HOSPITAL, FOR THOSE PATIENTS, FOR THE
RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY HAVE DEALT WITH FLOODING.
FOR ME, TO BE ABLE TO USE A NUMBER LIKE THAT, I NEED BOTH.
I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE COST FOR -- SORRY.

CHAOS TODAY.
THE COST FOR THAT WILL JUST CONTINUE TO RISE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.
AND THEN ALSO, NOT ONLY IS IT THE CITY'S JOB TO FIND A
SOLUTION TO THIS, I MEAN, THIS IS LITERALLY WHY WE EXIST.
THE CITY EXISTS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES, BUT REALLY IMPORTANTLY, AND I
DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT HERE.
I'M SURE IT'S POLITICAL, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS A
HOSPITAL IS JUST NOT OKAY.
ANYTHING WE DO, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS A HOSPITAL.
FOR ME, MY VOTE HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL DURING THIS.
I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT REALLY HAS TO HAPPEN.
WE HAVE NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A CITY.
THIS IS OUR JOB AS A COUNCIL.
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG?
3:32:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'LL JUST SAY I'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT
SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE CSX CROSSING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT IN THE EVENT
THAT THAT IS NOT GRANTED, WHAT HAPPENS?
3:32:58PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
IN THE EVENT THAT CSX DOES NOT PERMIT THAT,

FIRST, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY GIVEN
WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM CSX.
THEY HAVE GIVEN US A RESPONSE THAT INDICATES THAT WHAT THEY
HAVE SEEN SO FAR -- BY THE WAY, I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A
RESPONSE WITHIN DAYS FROM CSX.
USUALLY THEY REQUIRE TO US COMPLETE OUR DESIGN OR AT LEAST
GET TO 90% BEFORE WE CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
THAT'S JUST HOW THE PERMIT PROCESS WORKS.
BUT BASED ON THAT RESPONSE WHERE WE HAVE, I THINK THERE WERE
FOUR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DO, THEY SAID IF WE DO THOSE
REQUIREMENTS, WE WILL GET A PERMIT.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT E-MAIL SAID THAT WAS SENT TO
KIMMINS WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
IF WE DON'T RECEIVE A PERMIT FOR THE 60th MICROTUNNEL, WE
STILL HAVE THE FIVE BY TEN BOX, EXISTING BOX, UNDER THE CSX
CROSSING TO BE ABLE TO USE.
THAT WILL STILL PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT RELIEF TO PALMA CEIA
PINES AND TO PARKLAND ESTATES.
I MEANT TO SAY THAT IN THE REVERSE ORDER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF AMANDA WANTS TO COVER SOME BENEFIT COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT IT IS SIGNIFICANT.
3:34:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, WE STILL HAVE A SECURITY
ISSUE, BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE DOUBLE DOORS.
WE'RE OKAY IN HERE.

BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TAMPA PD IS CONTROLLING IT
OUT THERE.
WE'RE ALL FINE, BUT PLEASE DO NOT HEAR UNTIL YOU HEAR FROM
ME THAT IT IS SAFE TO LEAVE.
VERY GOOD.
CONTINUE.
3:34:54PM >> AMANDA PHILLIPS WITH ATKINS REALIS.
IF WE DO NOT GET A CSX PERMIT, WHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY -- I
MEAN, THAT WE WILL -- WE WILL GET A PERMIT, BUT IF WE DON'T,
THE FIVE BY TEN IS STILL ADEQUATE TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT
RELIEF TO BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS.
WITH JUST THE FIVE BY TEN, WE WILL STILL TAKE CARE OF ALL 96
HOMES IN THE FIVE-YEAR, EIGHT-HOUR FLOOD.
DURING A HUNDRED-YEAR STORM, WHICH IS JUST BELOW LIKE A
HURRICANE MILTON STORM, OUT OF 272 HOMES THAT FLOOD, WE WILL
BE RELIEVING 131 OF THOSE WITH THAT.
IN A HURRICANE MILTON SITUATION WITH 333 HOMES THAT FLOODED,
WE WOULD STILL REMOVE 192 OF THOSE WITH JUST THE FIVE BY TEN
BOX AND WITHOUT THE 16-INCH.
3:35:43PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD, IF I COULD -- I
DIDN'T GO BACK AND COUNT THEM FOR THE LAST 40 TO 50 YEARS,
WE'VE HAD 40, AT LEAST 40 TO 50 CSX CROSSINGS.
WE HAVE BEEN 100% SUCCESSFUL IN RECEIVING PERMITS FROM CSX.
100%.
3:36:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:36:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I REALIZE THAT THE STATE ALLOWS FOR THE CCNA
PROCESS, BUT CAN I ASK A YES-OR-NO QUESTION.
DID WE ACTUALLY DO AN RFP ON THIS HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
PROJECT OR DID WE JUST USE THE -- DID WE ACTUALLY DO AN RFP
ON THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT?
3:36:29PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
WE FOLLOWED THE CONSULTANT'S COMPETITIVE
NEGOTIATIONS ACT PROCESS, WHICH IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO
SELECT DESIGN-BUILD TEAMS OR DESIGN TEAMS.
3:36:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT MEANS A REVIEW OF MAYBE THREE OR MORE
FIRMS WAS LOOKED AT IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE ANY BUDGET WAS
SET TO IT.
BUT FOR A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT, WE DIDN'T HAVE A
BID.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANYBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE BID.
WE KNOW KIMMINS IS A GREAT FIRM, BY THE WAY.
I'M NOT CRITICIZING THEM.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE BID FOR
THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT, CORRECT?
IF WE SAVED 10%, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- IT'S A CHOICE BY
THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT'S LEGAL TO USE THE CCNA PROCESS, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE SAVED
TAXPAYER MONEY TO USE THAT.
ALSO, I'M WORKING WITH LISA BECAUSE MY AIDE IS OUT TODAY.
DON'T HOLD ANY SLIDES AGAINST --

IN YOUR MYTHS, ON PAGE 13, I FIND THESE MYTHS REALLY
OFFENSIVE.
I CAN REFUTE EACH ONE.
I THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO CRITICIZE THE
PUBLIC.
PAGE 13.
UNDER THE MYTH AND FACT.
ONE OF THE MYTHS SAYS THE FUNDING PLAN WIPES OUT THE FUNDS
FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
WELL, LAST TIME THE CFO TESTIFIED FROM 2032 TO 2043 OR
SOMETHING, IT DOES NOT WIPE OUT THE MONEY.
I'VE GOT SOME OTHER EVIDENCE ON THAT IF I HAVE TIME.
LISA, COULD YOU SHOW THIS SLIDE?
HE THEN SAID, YES, BETWEEN -- NOT THAT SLIDE, THE ONE WITH
THE NUMBERS ON IT.
THE ONE WITH THE NUMBERS.
I WANTED TO SHOW THE MYTH FIRST.
IT SAYS THE FUNDING PLAN WIPES OUT THE FUNDS FOR THE OTHER
PROJECTS.
REALLY IT DOES OVER THE NEXT -- THAT IS THE WRONG SLIDE.
WHAT WE FOUND FROM THE CFO LAST TIME IS IT DOES WIPE OUT ALL
THE MONEY BETWEEN NOW AND 2032.
ANYTHING IN THE C.I.P. OR THIS PROJECT IS GETTING FUNDED AND
WE CAN MOVE THINGS OUT OF THE C.I.P., BUT THE REALITY IS WE
DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR OTHER PROJECTS.

I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS TO PUT IN THAT THERE IS A MYTH THAT
THE FUNDING PLAN WIPES OUT OTHER PROJECTS WHEN IT DOES FOR
THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
LET'S BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC.
THE OTHER THING ON THE MYTHS ON THE SAME PAGE, CSX SERVES
MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THIS.
I BELIEVE THE LAST REMAINING CLIENT SERVES JET FUEL.
I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THEY DON'T SUPPLY MacDILL.
I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THAT STATEMENT.
IF I'M WRONG, SOMEBODY CAN SAY THAT I'M WRONG.
3:39:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T RESPOND FROM THE AUDIENCE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WE'RE JUST TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES.
3:39:40PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE.
WE KNOW LACK OF MAINTENANCE CAUSED FLOODING ALL OVER THE
CITY.
I'LL SHOW THAT IN A MINUTE.
I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO GO INTO PALMA CEIA PINES JUST
AFTER THE -- FIRST PERSON FROM THE CITY TO GO INTO PALMA
CEIA PINES AFTER THE FLOODING.
I TOURED AROUND WITH TWO OF THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE SAW THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE EVERYWHERE.
SAW DEBRIS EVERYWHERE THAT HAD NOT BEEN CLEANED UP.
WE KNOW THAT HAD AN IMPACT.

INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PROVE THE PUBLIC WRONG, MAYBE SAY IT
HAD A 10% IMPACT OR 20%.
SAYING IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT IS NOT REALLY FAIR OR
ACCURATE.
LISA, CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDE BACK UP, THE ONE THAT HAD THE
BLUE LINE?
NUMBER TWO.
I HAD JEAN DUNCAN COMMENT ON THIS A YEAR OR SO AGO.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU STILL SEE THE BLUE PALMA CEIA PINES HOUSES
WILL STILL FLOOD.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, BUT IF SOMEBODY
HAS ONE INCH OF FLOODING, IT'S STILL GOING TO AFFECT THEM.
IT'S ONLY 70% FOR A MILTON-STYLE EVENT, WHICH MEANS 30%,
WHICH IS STILL VERY BAD.
CAN YOU JUST PUT UP THE LAST SLIDE, PLEASE?
THE ONE WITH THE MAP WITH THE DOTS.
CAN YOU JUST MOVE IT UP.
THIS MAP I GOT FROM STORMWATER ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THE RED ARE THE HOUSES THAT WERE
FLOODED BECAUSE OF STORM SURGE, AND THERE WAS A COMMENT FROM
SOMEONE WHO SAID THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THE ONLY ONE
THAT FLOODED FROM FRESHWATER FLOODING.
MAYBE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GOT HIT BY STORM SURGE.
SHOULD WORK ON A SOLUTION BUT THERE IS NONE.
IF YOU SEE ALL THE REST OF THE HOUSES, GO ALL THE WAY UP TO

EAST TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA, SIGNIFICANT, ALL THOSE AREAS IN
THE MIDDLE, THE PENINSULA ON UP, ALL THAT IS GREEN.
YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF THEM.
I'VE SAID BEFORE 20 OR SO PLACES DEPENDING ON THE
CONCENTRATION YOU WANT TO CATCH.
BUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE DOTS REPRESENTS A FAMILY THAT
FLOODED.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SAYING ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES
EXCEPT THIS ONE AREA HAS NO CHANCE OF GETTING ANY HELP.
ALL THOSE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES HAVE NO CHANCE
OF GETTING HELP IN THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS BECAUSE THE
CITY IS OVERPAYING FOR A BAD PROJECT.
3:42:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
IT HOLD ON A SECOND.
LISA, IF YOU GO OUT THIS WAY, HAVE THEM TELL ME WHEN THE
SITUATION IS RESOLVED.
THANK YOU.
3:42:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
REALLY QUICK, YES AND NO.
DOES THIS PROJECT WIPE OUT FUTURE STORMWATER FUNDING AND
REVENUE SOURCES WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, YES OR
NO?
3:42:26PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
NO.
AND DENNIS HAS THE DETAILS.

WHAT IS LEFT REMAINING FOR REVENUE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
3:42:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
VERY BRIEFLY SO I CAN SPEAK.
WE SPOKE LIKE FIVE SECONDS.
HAVE AT IT.
3:42:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
AGAIN, IN ORDER TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS
CORRECT IN WHAT HE SAID.
I'M LOOKING FOR THE SLIDE RIGHT HERE.
GIVE ME A MOMENT.
3:43:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FYI, WE ARE GOOD TO GO.
IF ANYBODY FEELS LIKE THEY ARE BEING HELD CAPTIVE, YOU ARE
NO LONGER HELD CAPTIVE.
FEEL FREE TO LEAVE.
3:43:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IF I CAN HAVE THE WOLF UP, PLEASE.
I BELIEVE THIS FUNDING PLAN, THE WAY WE ENVISION IT AND
WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON
SAID NO OTHER FUNDING OTHER THAN THE FIVE-YEAR RECOMMENDED
C.I.P. THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR
27 TO FISCAL YEAR 31.
YOU SEE IT BY YEAR.
YOU SEE IT BY PROJECT CATEGORY.
TOTALS ABOUT $30 MILLION.
THIS PLAN FUNDS THAT.

AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, IT DOES NOT FUND ANYTHING OTHER
THAN THAT EXCEPT FOR, AS I'VE SAID, THE DEBT SERVICE WE ARE
ALREADY OBLIGATED TO.
THIS PLAN ALLOWS $30 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FOR
STORMWATER.
3:44:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'M LAUGHING.
TODAY IS SO WEIRD.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
COUPLE OF ISSUES HERE.
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE FOLKS THAT CAME, BUT
ESPECIALLY TWO GROUPS.
NUMBER ONE, THE BUSINESSES.
THEY ARE ADVOCATING, WHEN I SAY FOR THEIR INTERESTS, I MEAN
THEIR INTERESTS OF RUNNING BUSINESSES AND CREATING JOBS.
NOBODY HERE BEGRUDGES THAT.
I APPRECIATE THE HOMEOWNERS WHO WERE FLOODED AND CAME HERE
AND SPOKE OUT OF THEIR DEEP TRAUMA.
I APPRECIATE THAT A GREAT DEAL.
I'VE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES.
THERE'S BLACK AND WHITE AND THEN GRAY.
A LOT OF GRAY ON THIS ISSUE.
FOR ME, THE OVERWHELMING THINGS I SEE LEAD ME TO SUPPORT
THIS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS SAID IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I

WANTED TO ADDRESS, JUST COMMENTS THAT KIND OF FLY IN THE
FACE OF HOW I SEE IT.
SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT THE FREE MARKET AND FLOODING.
NO, NO, NO, NO.
NOT APPLICABLE HERE AT ALL.
SOMEONE ELSE SAID THEY COULD SELL.
NO, NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
AND THEN THIS IDEA -- AND THIS WASN'T REALLY SAID TODAY.
IT WAS SAID LAST TIME, THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS AS
DISTRICT VERSUS DISTRICT.
I DON'T DO THAT.
I REPRESENTATIVE NEW, NORTH TAMPA.
ADVOCATE FOR INTERESTS OF PEOPLE.
I REPRESENT A DISTRICT THAT WAS BADLY FLOODED.
NORTH TAMPA.
I FOUGHT REALLY, REALLY HARD.
I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BRING UP THE ISSUE OF GETTING
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR WORKING CLASS, MIDDLE-CLASS, LOWER
INCOME FOLKS THAT LOST EVERYTHING, FLOOD ASSISTANCE, GOING
WELL ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT FEMA DID.
TAKING CARE OF PUMPS OUT THERE.
DOING WHAT WE CAN OUT THERE.
FOR ME, I DON'T LOOK AT THIS AS EAST TAMPA VERSUS NORTH
TAMPA VERSUS WEST TAMPA, VERSUS SOUTH TAMPA.
I DON'T DO THAT.

TRY NOT TO BE PAROCHIAL TO THE EXTENT THERE IS A CALL FOR
THAT.
NOT TODAY, BUT LAST TIME THERE WERE.
WITH REGARDS TO ALLEGATIONS THAT WE'LL BE SPENDING ALL OF
OUR MONEY ON THIS PROJECT, A PROJECT THAT'S NOT GOING TO
WORK.
SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA IS USING ALL OF ITS FLOOD MONEY FOR A PROJECT THAT'S
NOT GOING TO WORK.
HOW STUPID OF A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ARE WE IF THAT'S TRUE.
GOD FORBID, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I SAY, GOD FORBID.
AGAIN, MY ISSUE WITH THIS IS, I TRY TO COME FROM THE HEART
ON THIS.
BEFORE MILTON, I WAS MORE OF AN AGNOSTIC ON THIS.
I'LL BE HONEST.
FORMER AIDE, BRANDON ALONSO ON THIS I DID A COMMUNITY
MEETING FOR FLOOD VICTIMS.
A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAD BRIEFLY SPOKEN WITH ME ON THIS ISSUE
CAME THERE, DRESSED UP IN T-SHIRTS AND LOOKING LIKE THEY
JUST CAME OUT OF NOAH'S ARK.
IT WAS LIKE A WEEK LATER AND MY HEART WENT OUT TO THEM.
I GOT INVOLVED ON THE ISSUE, MY VOTE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
AND THAT'S WHERE I COME ON THIS AT.
THERE'S A LOT OF APPEALS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY NEGATIVE APPEALS TODAY
THAT I WOULD OBJECT TO.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD, THEY ARE
ADVOCATING NOT ONLY FOR THEIR INTERESTS BUT FOR THEIR
INTERESTS THAT -- FOR THEIR INTERESTS THAT AFFECT THE
GREATER WELFARE.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE I CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF
RESPECT FOR.
THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THIS, TWO THINGS.
PEOPLE HAVE COME TO US WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH HELL.
SOME OF YOU ALL I REMEMBER SPEAKING TO YOU ALL AND SEEING
YOU ALL IMMEDIATELY AFTER MILTON HERE IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
YOU GUYS WERE CRYING.
AND YOU ARE STILL HERE.
AND YOU ARE STILL DEALING WITH THE TRAUMA.
FOR ME, THAT'S THE OVERWHELMING ISSUE THAT I PERSONALLY
STAND BESIDE.
I ALSO SAY THAT AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE CAN'T ABANDON A
NEIGHBORHOOD IN EFFECT TO BE FLOODED, RIGHT?
WHENEVER THERE IS HEAVY RAIN IN THIS AREA, IT GETS FLOODED.
ARE WE JUST GOING TO SAY, NO, WE'LL GIVE THIS UP?
I CAN'T DO THAT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE.
THAT'S MY VOTE.
AND I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT AND GO INTO DETAIL BECAUSE THE
BUCK STOPS WITH US.

AND ALL OF US I THINK ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS
RIGHT, INCLUDING COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WHO WE'RE ALL GOING TO
EAGERLY HEAR FROM.
THANK YOU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
3:48:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WELL, WELL, WELL.
I ACTUALLY PREPARED REMARKS.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS DOING AT 2:30 THIS MORNING.
THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAT I'VE
FACED SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
THIS MAKES BASEBALL LOOK EASY.
AFTER EVERYTHING I'VE READ, HEARD, AND QUESTIONED, I KEEP
COMING BACK TO ONE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE AND THIS IS REALLY
THE BASIS OF MY DECISION.
THAT THE MOST BASIC RESPONSIBILITY OF A CITY GOVERNMENT IS
TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE
SERVE.
THAT MEANS POLICE AND FIRE PROTECTION.
IT MEANS EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
BUT IT ALSO MEANS PROTECTING HOMES AND BUSINESSES FROM
FLOODING.
KEEPING STREETS PASSIBLE AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN REACH
HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL CARE AND FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY CAN
REACH THEM.
FLOOD PROTECTION ISN'T SIMPLY AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE.

IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
I SPENT WEEKS EXAMINING THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF
PROJECT.
I'VE CHALLENGED THE COST AND THE ASSUMPTIONS.
I'VE EXAMINED THE ENGINEERING, THE FLOODING DATA, THE
CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS AND THE ALTERNATIVES.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY, I'VE
LOOKED UNDER EVERY CUSHION TO SEE IF I COULD FIND AND MAKE
SURE THEY ARE SPENDING THE MONEY WISELY.
I'VE ALSO LISTENED.
I'VE LISTENED TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WATCHED WATER ENTER
THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES AND WHO WORRY ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT
MAJOR STORM WILL BRING.
BUT I'VE ALSO LISTENED JUST AS CAREFULLY TO THE RESIDENTS
AND BUSINESSES WHO WILL BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE CONSTRUCTION
AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORRY ABOUT THE ACCESS, THE PARKING, THE
DELIVERIES, THE TRAFFIC, AND WHETHER THEIR BUSINESSES CAN
SURVIVE THAT DISRUPTION.
THOSE CONCERNS ARE REAL.
THAT'S WHY I KEEP ASKING ONE QUESTION.
IS THERE ANOTHER WAY?
IS THERE A LESS EXPENSIVE OR LESS DISRUPTIVE ALTERNATIVE
THAT PROVIDES THE PROTECTION THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS?
I REALLY WANTED THE ANSWER TO BE YES.
I'VE ALSO STRUGGLED WITH THE UNRESOLVED UNCERTAINTY

INVOLVING THE CSX RAILWAY.
I DON'T LIKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE COMPLETELY
RESOLVED.
IT BOTHERS ME, AND I'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY
CONCERNED.
BUT DIFFICULT DECISIONS RARELY COME TO US WITH EVERY
UNCERTAINTY ELIMINATED.
SO I'VE HAD TO WEIGH THE UNCERTAINTY AGAINST SOMETHING ELSE
THAT IS VERY REAL.
THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING NOTHING.
DOING NOTHING IS ALSO A DECISION.
WE KNOW HOMES AND BUSINESSES ARE VULNERABLE TO FLOODING.
WE KNOW STREETS CAN BECOME IMPASSABLE, AND WE KNOW SEVERE
FLOODING CAN AFFECT PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO MOVE SAFELY THROUGH
THE CITY AND REACH CRITICAL SERVICES.
AT SOME POINT, YOU'VE GOT TO ASK THE QUESTIONS, STUDY THE
ALTERNATIVES, LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, CHALLENGE
THE NUMBERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH
ME.
TO THOSE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, I WANT YOU TO KNOW
THIS.
I HEARD YOU.
YOUR CONCERNS MADE ME DIG DEEPER.
THEY MADE ME ASK MORE QUESTIONS, AND THEY MADE THIS DECISION

MUCH HARDER.
BUT WE WEREN'T ELECTED ONLY TO MAKE THE EASY DECISIONS.
WE WERE ELECTED TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT ONES BASED ON THE
FACTS BEFORE US, AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IN THE BEST INTEREST
OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.
AFTER WEEKS OF RESEARCH, QUESTIONS, AND, FRANKLY, A LOT OF
SOUL-SEARCHING, I'VE REACHED MY DECISION.
I BELIEVE THE GREATEST RISK IS FAILING TO ACT.
TO THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED WITH THE FLOODING AND THE NEXT
GENERATION THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS PROJECT, I STAND WITH
YOU.
AND TO THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH MY DECISION, I RESPECT YOU
AND I HEARD YOU, AND MY QUESTIONS WILL NOT STOP TOMORROW.
I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK.
I'VE LISTENED, I'VE QUESTIONED, I'VE STRUGGLED WITH THIS
DECISION, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE STILL
UNCERTAINTIES.
BUT BASED ON THE FACTS BEFORE ME AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND THE SECURITY OF
TAMPA'S RESIDENTS, I PLAN TO VOTE YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS 66, 67,
68, 69.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

3:52:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:52:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
3:53:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:53:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
3:53:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:53:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
3:53:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:53:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:53:14PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, MANISCALCO, AND
YOUNG VOTING NO.
3:53:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.
WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS ON THE SCHEDULE.
THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE MAKING DISRUPTION, THEY COULD BE
DOWNSTAIRS.
PLEASE DON'T ENGAGE IF YOU ENCOUNTER THEM.
THANK YOU.
WORKING 9 TO 5
WHAT A WAY TO MAKE A LIVING
3:53:49PM >> JUST ONE MORE?
3:53:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TWO.
WE'LL GIVE IT A SECOND FOR EVERYBODY TO LEAVE.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WE'RE STILL MEETING.
WE HAVE TWO MORE AGENDA ITEMS.
IF YOU COULD CARRY THE CONVERSATIONS INTO THE LOBBY, WE

WOULD APPRECIATE IT SO WE CAN GET RID OF THE LAST TWO ISSUES
AND IT WILL BE MARTINI TIME.
OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER 71, I SEE MR. FOWLER.
THANK YOU, MR. FOWLER, FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE SIDE SHOW FOR YOU,
ENTERTAIN YOU.
BEST SHOW IN TOWN RIGHT HERE.
MUST-SEE TV.
THANK YOU, JUNIOR, FOR EVERYTHING.
3:55:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, YOU ROCK.
3:55:38PM >>TED FOWLER:
GOOD AFTERNOON.
TED FOWLER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
AND IT WAS A SHOW, TO SAY THE LEAST.
SO WHAT I HAVE UP IS A DRONE SHOT OF TAPPAN PARK TRACT.
WHAT WE CAN SEE IS RIGHT HERE, WHERE I HAVE MY PEN, IS THE
ONLY THING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS.
IT'S A NATURE-BASED PARK THAT S.W.F.W.M.D. ABOUT 20 YEARS
AGO CAME IN AND DID A LOT OF UPLAND IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY PLANTED AND RESTORED THIS ENTIRE GROUP OF MANGROVES AS
WELL AS CREATED THESE TIDAL POOLS AND THIS NATURE AREA.
SO 95% OF THAT PARK IS UNTOUCHABLE BY ANYBODY ON MY STAFF.
SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT I HAVE I'VE DISCUSSED WITH MICHELLE

AND PAM.
I THINK THE MOST PRUDENT THING TO DO IS TO GET SOMEBODY FROM
S.W.F.W.M.D. WHO IS QUALIFIED TO COME OUT HERE AND LOOK AT
THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE PARK.
IT IS DUE FOR INSPECTION EVERY TEN YEARS.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS INSPECTED WAS 2019.
I DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL 2029.
MY PLAN OF ACTION IS TO GET SOMEBODY AT S.W.F.W.M.D. TO
POSSIBLY LOOK AT THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE PARK.
DID THE HURRICANE DAMAGE IT?
HAS IT FAILED IN SOME WAY BECAUSE OF ANY OTHER OUTSIDE
INFLUENCES?
THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE'LL DO TO GET THEM AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE OUT HERE AND SAY, YES, THESE TIDAL POOLS ARE
WORKING THE WAY THEY SHOULD.
THESE MANGROVES ARE PROVIDING AS MUCH NATURAL PROTECTION AS
THEY CAN, AND JUST ASSESS THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE PARK.
3:57:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. FOWLER, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE
DOING ON THAT UPLAND CITY PORTION THAT YOU DESCRIBED THAT
THE CITY CONTROLS THAT IS AFFECTING WATER FLOW?
WHAT ARE WE UTILIZING.
WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE?
WHY ARE WE GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT SECTION?
3:57:28PM >>TED FOWLER:
THAT IS PER THE AGREEMENT WE MAINTAIN.
AND WHEN WE MAINTAIN IT, IT IS A CONTRACT MOWER.

MY TEAM GOES BY PERIODICALLY AND MAKES SURE THERE IS NO
LITTER ON THE GROUND, NO MATTRESSES BEING DUMPED.
3:57:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE WE CHANGING THE GRADE OR DIGGING
DITCHES?
3:57:43PM >>TED FOWLER:
NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PERFORM
WORK IN THERE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF S.W.F.W.M.D.
3:57:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HAS THE CITY IN THE PAST CHANGED ANYTHING
IN THAT PORTION?
3:57:52PM >>TED FOWLER:
NOT THE CITY.
A JOINT AGREEMENT I BELIEVE STARTED IN 1999 AND FINISHED IN
2002 THAT S.W.F.W.M.D. CAME IN AND MADE ALL THE UPLAND AND
WETLAND ENHANCEMENTS, MADE SURE THE MANGROVES WERE HEALTHY,
CREATED THE TIDAL POOLS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
DID THE SALT GRASSES THAT ACTUALLY ATTRACT BIRDS TO COME AND
BE A NATURAL ESTUARY AS WELL AS WILDLIFE.
3:58:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:58:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
MICHELLE WHO IS STILL IN THE AUDIENCE, HER HOUSE IS RIGHT
THERE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THAT RED LINE.
SO MAYBE YUAN CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT TO THE SOUTH OF THE
PICTURE, THERE WAS ANOTHER AREA THAT WAS CHANGED I THINK
MAYBE FOR SOME REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PARK OR JUST A STORMWATER
THING?
SO I WENT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WAY I MET MICHELLE IS I

WENT TO HER HOUSE LIKE THE DAY AFTER THE STORMS, TOO, THAT
WHOLE STREET WAS WIPED OUT.
I THINK THE STREET BEHIND WAS WIPED OUT TO.
3:59:00PM >>TED FOWLER:
TALKING ABOUT FROM THE STORM?
3:59:02PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
I THINK AN EIGHT FOOT WAVE CAME ACROSS ALL THE MANGROVES.
WHAT RESPONSIBILITY OR HELP COULD THE CITY PROVIDE PROBABLY
TO YUAN ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE HOUSES TO KEEP THEM FROM
GETTING HIT BY THE WATER?
3:59:15PM >>YUAN LI:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
YUAN LI STORMWATER SERVICES DIRECTOR.
I CONCUR FIRST.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS
REGARDING THE HOUSE AND THE NATURE OF THIS PARK.
AS TED MENTIONED, THIS IS UNDEVELOPED NATURE PRESERVE, AND
THE CITY OWNS AND MAINTAINS A PORTION OF THE PARK, BUT
REALLY ORIGINAL AGENCY, SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT DO HAVE THE REGULATORY OVERSIGHT OF THE ENTIRE
PARK.
SO WE HAVE TO -- ANY CHANGE, ANY ALTERATION OF THE DRAINAGE
FLOW SURROUNDING THIS AREA, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS --
4:00:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.
DO YOU THINK JUST ON THE SECTION WE COULD SEE IS THERE
SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WORKING WITH S.W.F.W.M.D. -- BY THE

WAY, I KNOW THREE OR FOUR OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IF YOU NEED
THE HELP -- BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY OR
S.W.F.W.M.D. COULD DO TO PREVENT THE HOUSES FROM GETTING
FLOODED BY A WAVE MUCH WATER COMING ACROSS?
4:00:20PM >>YUAN LI:
WE DID SOME RESEARCH.
I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT SOME FACTS FIRST.
WOLF, PLEASE.
THIS IS REALLY THE FEMA FLOOD ZONE.
LET'S BE REALISTIC.
THE WHOLE PARK IS -- THE ELEVATION OF THE PARK IS BETWEEN
SEA LEVEL TO TWO FEET.
THIS IS THE MOST VULNERABLE COASTAL AREA OF THE CITY
PROBABLY SUBJECT TO A COASTAL HIGH HAZARD INCLUDING BOTH
HIGH TIDE AND STORMWATER SURGE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION OF THIS PARK IS
THIS AREA IS PROBABLY TEN FEET.
ADJACENT TO THAT IS COASTAL FLOODING, 4 TO 15 FEET DURING
THE SURGE.
IT'S REALLY MOST VULNERABLE PLACE IN THE CITY.
AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, BOTH DAVIS ISLAND AND OTHER COASTAL
AREAS ARE SUBJECT TO SIMILAR COASTAL HAZARD.
4:01:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THERE ANYTHING, THOUGH, COULD YOU HOLD
THAT MAP FOR A SECOND?
THIS MAP SHOWS THE PART TO THE SOUTH ALSO THAT I THINK
MICHELLE HAS SHOWN PICTURES IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT PART

BEING CHANGED.
DID S.W.F.W.M.D. OR THE CITY CHANGE THAT?
WHO WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THAT PART TO THE
SOUTH?
4:01:51PM >>YUAN LI:
I THINK THE RESIDENT PREVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT
THIS PORTION, THAT'S APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THAT WAS DEVELOPED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND RIGOROUS
ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT AS A DISTRICT.
WAY TO EVALUATE, PERMIT APPLICATION, STAFF ENGINEERS WERE
LOOKING INTO THE APPLICATION AND ALL THOSE KIND OF
COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN S.W.F.W.M.D. AND THE APPLICANT OF THE
WHOLE THING, AND THEY DID MEET THEIR STANDARD FOR THE
DEVELOPMENT.
4:02:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF S.W.F.W.M.D. GAVE US THE OKAY, IF WE
PARTNERED WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., THE PART TO THE NORTH END, PART
TO THE SOUTH, JUST FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, IS THERE ANYTHING
THAT WE COULD DO TO SLOW DOWN OR PREVENT THE FLOODING?
YOU SAID TO THE LEFT WHERE TAPPAN PARK IS, ZERO ELEVATION, A
COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY, IT'S TEN.
IS THERE A WAY TO SLOW DOWN THE WATER OR STOP IT.
I KNOW THERE IS A TINY DITCH THERE.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO?
4:02:55PM >>YUAN LI:
TO BE HONEST, MOST PHYSICAL SOLUTION FLOODING
RELIEF FOR THE COASTAL AREA IS TO RAISE THE HOME.
THAT'S THE ONLY -- I WILL SAY THAT IS THE ONLY PERMANENT

SOLUTION THAT CAN RESULT.
WE ALSO ARE SUBJECT TO SEA LEVEL RISE.
PERIODICALLY ENCOUNTER HIGH TIDE AND STORMWATER SURGE.
I DO HAVE A TABLE SHOWING YOU THE STORM SURGE EVENTS OF
TAMPA BAY.
I BELIEVE THE HOME OF THE RESIDENT IS AT AROUND FIVE OR SIX
FEET.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS FIGURE AND IN THE CHART,
PERIODICALLY THEY MAY FACE THE STORMWATER SURGE AND THE HIGH
TIDE.
REALLY, THE REASON THE HOME IS -- RAISING THE HOME IS ONLY
PERMANENT SOLUTION.
4:03:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE AREA TO THE SOUTH THAT'S UNDEVELOPED,
WHO OWNS THAT?
4:03:57PM >>YUAN LI:
I THINK THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY.
4:03:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PUT THAT OTHER MAP BACK UP THERE?
LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE CANALS CARVED INTO IT.
4:04:07PM >>YUAN LI:
I HAVE ANOTHER MAP HERE THAT IS PROBABLY SHOWING
THE GREATER CONTEXT OF THE REGION.
4:04:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
INTERESTING.
GO AHEAD.
4:04:16PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF S.W.F.W.M.D. CAME IN AND PUT A THOUSAND
MORE MANGROVES IN THERE, WOULD THAT HAVE SLOWED IT DOWN?
4:04:28PM >>YUAN LI:
-- STORMWATER ALSO CONCUR, SURFACE IMPROVEMENT
AND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OF S.W.F.W.M.D.

HURRICANE TWO YEARS AGO.
IT PROBABLY IS A GOOD TIME TO DO A FULL EVALUATION AND GET
THE PROFESSIONAL'S OPINION WHETHER WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE
RESTORATION EFFORTS RELATED TO THE HURRICANE DAMAGE, THOSE
KIND OF THINGS.
WE ALSO DID SOME RESEARCH REGARDING THE GRANTS OPPORTUNITY.
SEA GRANT OPPORTUNITY AND IN FLORIDA TO RESTORE THE LIVING
SHORELINE.
THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE CAN TALK TO THOSE AGENCIES AND ALSO
TALK TO S.W.F.W.M.D. TO DO THE FREE EVALUATIONS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BASIS FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION.
4:05:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SHOULD WE VOTE TO ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING?
OR WOULD YOU COME BACK TO US AT SOME POINT AND ASK US TO DO
IT?
HOW DO YOU RECOMMEND PROCEEDING?
4:05:37PM >>YUAN LI:
EITHER WAY.
WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO S.W.F.W.M.D.
4:05:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS FLOODING
IS CAUSED BY RISING WATER.
THE MANGROVES AND LIVING SHORELINE WOULD BE MORE FOR WAVE
ACTION.
IT CREATES OBSTACLES FOR WAVE ACTION.
IF THE GULF OF MEXICO AND, IN TURN, THE TAMPA BAY IS RISING,
NONE OF THOSE SOLUTIONS WOULD WORK FOR RISING WATER.
BUT IT WOULD BREAK ABOVE THE SURFACE WATER.

ANY KIND OF WIND ACTION, WAVE ACTION KIND OF STUFF WOULD BE
A SOLUTION.
IF THE PROBLEM WAS WAVE ACTION, MANGROVES AND LIVING
SHORELINE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.
IF IT'S JUST RISING WATER, THE WATER -- BARRING HAVING DAMS
OUT THERE, WE'RE NOT HOLDING BACK THE GULF OF MEXICO.
4:06:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I MAKE A MOTION?
HELP ME MAKE IT SO IT MEETS YOUR CRITERIA.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO ASK -- I DON'T KNOW
IF PARKS WANTS TO ENGAGE, TOO, -- AT LEAST THAT STORMWATER
ENGAGE WITH S.W.F.W.M.D. AND WHATEVER OTHER AGENCIES TO SEE
IF THEY CAN HELP TO MITIGATE SOME OF THIS WITH PLANNING
AND/OR MONEY OR IMPLEMENTATION.
WHEN SHOULD WE ASK YOU TO COME BACK?
HOW SOON COULD WE ASK YOU TO COME BACK?
4:07:05PM >>YUAN LI:
COUPLE OF MONTHS.
4:07:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD GIVE THEM A LONGER TIME IF THEY
HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH S.W.F.W.M.D.
4:07:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JANUARY?
HOW ABOUT JANUARY 7.
4:07:14PM >>YUAN LI:
OKAY.
4:07:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
4:07:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF RETURN BACK
TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 7 WITH THE REPORT ON POTENTIAL
MITIGATION EFFORTS ASSOCIATED WITH TAPPAN PARK AND

S.W.F.W.M.D.
MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
ABBYE FEELEY.
IT'S THE ABBYE FEELEY SHOW.
4:07:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BRING IT HOME.
4:07:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY.
I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU THE UPDATE ON TAMPA FORWARD AND
WHERE WE ARE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE PROCESS.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A MULTIYEAR EFFORT TO COMPREHENSIVELY
UPDATE, MODERNIZE, REORGANIZE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND
WE ARE COMPLETING THAT WORK IN INSTALLMENTS.
INSTALLMENT ONE HAS MADE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS.
IT IS NOT DONE.
ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WE'RE STILL EVALUATING WITH CLARION
ON THAT WAS A PROPOSAL FOR THE RS 50 AND 60 TO GO TO
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY URBAN.
WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT, AND WE'RE STILL

WORKING THROUGH KIND OF WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AS FAR AS THAT
CONSOLIDATION.
AND REALLY BALANCING THAT WITH THE CITY'S NEEDS FOR MISSING
MIDDLE HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSALS
CLARION MADE, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.
HOW DO WE PRESERVE THE CHARACTER AND PREDICTABILITY FOR
RESIDENTS EXPECTING TO BE ESTABLISHED IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE
CREATING APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING.
SO THAT WORK IS STILL UNDERWAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK
WITH A CLEAR RESPONSE TO THE COMMUNITY AS THE EVALUATION IS
COMPLETED.
THERE ARE ALSO A FEW OTHER INSTALLMENT ITEMS THAT REMAIN
UNDER REVIEW.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS IS ITERATIVE AND WE'RE STILL WORKING.
NOTHING IS CLOSED OUT.
SOMEONE DID COMMENT ON THE WEB PAGE THE OTHER DAY THAT THE
FEEDBACK FOR INSTALLMENT ONE WAS CLOSED.
THAT WILL BE REOPENED.
YOU CAN STILL COMMENT ON ALL OF THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
AT THE SAME TIME THE LDC HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD, THE COMP
PLAN HAS ALSO BEEN MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT IS NOW ON YOUR AGENDA I BELIEVE FOR OCTOBER 22
FOR ADOPTION, WHICH DEFINITELY HELPS IN SEQUENCING FOR THE
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

INSTALLMENT TWO, INSTALLMENT TWO IS SCHEDULED TO GO OUT TO
THE PUBLIC ON OCTOBER 1st, AND WE WILL BE HAVING WHAT WE
TYPICALLY DO IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT STARTS RIGHT AFTER THAT,
AND WE WILL HAVE OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY TEAM.
CLARION NORMALLY COMES IN.
ONCE THE INSTALLMENT GOES OUT AND TELLS THEM, HERE'S WHAT IS
IN THE INSTALLMENT SO YOU KNOW AS YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE
INSTALLMENT WHAT TO EXPECT.
SO THAT WILL BE HAPPENING ON OCTOBER 2nd.
AND THEN WE WILL -- ARE LOOKING TO HAVE OUR TECHNICAL
ADVISORY FULL MEETING AT THE END OF THE MONTH, OCTOBER 29,
WHICH WOULD GIVE THEM A MONTH TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND THEN
CLARION TYPICALLY COMES AND MEETS WITH THEM.
ALONG WITH OUR PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THAT EVENING.
SO ALL OF THIS IS BEING UPDATED ON THE WEB PAGE NOW, AND
OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE'LL SEE THAT START TO TAKE PLACE.
4:10:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. FEELEY?
NO.
APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:10:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU.
4:10:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MISSED US LAST TIME.
4:10:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I DON'T BELIEVE I COME THE FIRST WEEK IN
OCTOBER, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD.

I WOULD BE COMING IN NOVEMBER TO FILL YOU IN ON ALL OF THAT
AND HOW THINGS WERE GOING.
THANK YOU.
4:11:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
COUNCILMAN VIERA?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG?
4:11:27PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I HAVE SOME NEW BUSINESS.
4:11:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ALWAYS DO.
4:11:29PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AS ALWAYS.
A COUPLE OF THINGS, NUMBER ONE, THE GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN
IS ON NOVEMBER 19, 2026.
SO WE PARTICIPATED WHEN WE DID THE FIRST TIME AND THEN WE
STARTED COUNCIL AT 10 A.M. OR 11 A.M. TO GIVE COUNCIL
MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GREAT AMERICAN
TEACH-IN IF THEY WANTED TO.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AGAIN?
I MAKE A MOTION FOR OUR REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON
NOVEMBER 19, 2026, TO START AT 11 A.M. IN OBSERVANCE OF
GREAT AMERICAN TEACH-IN SO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
4:12:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN YOUNG, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED?
4:12:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE TO GO TO MY WIFE'S SCHOOL.
THEY WANT ME THERE, AND THEN SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY
ASKED THAT I SPEAK AT THEIR SON'S SCHOOL.
IT WAS GREAT.
4:12:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
GETTING E-MAILS.
OH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING BUT DIDN'T MAKE A
DECISION.
4:12:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR.
4:12:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
PERFECT.
I'M SURE ALL OF YOU SAW THIS E-MAIL THAT WENT OUT TALKING
ABOUT SOME MOVING OF SOME MONIES, PARTICULARLY FROM SULPHUR
SPRINGS FOR A CERTAIN PROJECT.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR PARKS AND REC
DIRECTOR TED FOWLER.
WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY WITH THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL
COMMITTEE.
WE MEET QUARTERLY, AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED -- TALKED,
DISCUSSED THE E-MAIL.
ALL IN ALL, THERE ARE NOT ANY FUNDS THAT ARE MOVING FROM
SULPHUR SPRINGS PROJECTS TOWARD THIS -- THE SWANN PARK
PROJECT.
IN FACT, SOME OF THE PROJECTS LISTED IN THAT E-MAIL, SOME OF
THEM ARE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD AND HAVE CONTRACTS AND

DESIGNS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
SO THAT IS NOT JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, WE HAD THE
SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL COMMITTEE, SOME MEMBERS FROM THE
NEIGHBORHOOD -- THE SULPHUR SPRINGS ACTION LEAGUE AND ALSO
JUST SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE IN THAT MEETING.
ALSO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S AIDE WAS THERE AS WELL.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
JUST TO PUT THAT OUT INTO THE AIR.
ALSO, FOR THE 56th AND BROADWAY PROJECT, I HAD A MEETING
WITH OUR MOBILITY DIRECTOR, MR. BRANDON CAMPBELL, ALONG WITH
TWO OF OUR EAST TAMPA RESIDENTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROJECT
SPECIFICALLY.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE MAY POSSIBLY BE, I'VE BEEN GIVEN
THIS INFORMATION, THERE MAY POSSIBLY BE ANOTHER ROUTE THAT
CAN BE EXPLORED THAT WILL NOT HAVE TO HINGE ON GETTING THE
APPROVAL FROM THE BUSINESS OWNER TO USE THEIR EASEMENT.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH IS WHAT I DID ASK THEM TO
DO.
AND THAT IS WHAT THEY DID.
SO THERE IS NO -- THERE IS STILL POSSIBLY A PATH FORWARD.
AND MR. BRANDON CAMPBELL DID SAY IF THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS
ITSELF, THAT WE WOULD -- THAT THE CITY WOULD GO AND COULD
PURSUE IT.
JUST AN UPDATE FOR THAT.
ALSO, JUST TO PUT THIS OUT THERE, I'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF

FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THE DISTRICT REGARDING THE
EXTENDED TIME FOR HOME REPAIRS FOR -- RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN RECEIVING THAT.
MAYBE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE LATER DOWN THE LINE.
I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCESSES AND THINGS WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH WITH OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE.
I TALKED TO SUSAN DAILY ABOUT THIS.
I WANT TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE'VE BEEN CALLING AND CALLING FOR YEARS
AND THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOTHING BEING DONE.
JUST TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THAT'S ALL.
4:15:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS A REPETITIVE ISSUE.
4:15:35PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT IS ALL.
4:15:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:15:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOTHING MAJOR.
I JUST WANTED TO DO A PERSONAL UPDATE.
PEOPLE KEEP ASK ME HOW I'M DOING.
I'VE COMPLETED MY THIRD INFUSION YESTERDAY.
I'M FEELING REALLY GOOD, BUT I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS MORNING
IN THE SHOWER I STARTED TO FIND SOME HAIR.
THIS MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME YOU SEE ME WITH MY REAL HAIR.
IT'S OKAY.
I KNOW.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB.
OTHER THAN THAT I'M FEELING REALLY GOOD.
DOING WHAT I CAN.
I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WELL WISHES.
4:16:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REMEMBER, GOD GAVE THE PRETTY ONES MORE
FACE.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOU.
I'M WEARING PINK TODAY SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU.
IF IT'S NOT A RIBBON, IT'S SOMETHING PINK.
I WISH FOR YOU TO GET BACK TO GOOD HEALTH AND QUICKLY.
THAT'S IT.
4:16:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:16:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SAME THING.
I PRAY FOR YOU EVERY DAY.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING MUCH BETTER.
LET'S GO ON WITH THE REST OF THE SHOW BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING
ONE HELL OF A JOB.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE CONVENTION CENTER
PRESENTATION FROM SEPTEMBER 24th WORKSHOP TO THE NOVEMBER
19 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING UNDER COMMENDATIONS AND
PRESENTATIONS.
4:16:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

YOU ANSWERED A QUESTION BEFORE I HAD TO ASK IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE VISIT TAMPA
BAY AND CONVENTION CENTER PRESENTATION FROM THE WORKSHOP ON
SEPTEMBER 24 TO NOVEMBER 19, 2026.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
4:17:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S IT, SIR.
4:17:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SPEAKING OF THE WORKSHOP, THIS IS FOR THE
CLERK, WE PREVIOUSLY IN A MOTION AT THE LAST MEETING HAD
MOVED BOTH OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE ISSUES TO THE SAME
MEETING.
I SEE THAT ON THE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE, THE ONE IS STILL THERE.
IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED.
WE MADE A MOTION LAST TIME.
BUT IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA.
IF YOU GUYS COULD CHECK THAT.
SEPTEMBER 24, THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CITY STAFF TO
PRESENT SUGGESTIONS PROPOSING ENFORCEABLE RULE CHANGES THAT
SHOULD HAVE MOVED ALONG WITH THE OTHER NOISE ISSUE.
THAT WAS A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
OH, WAS IT COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
4:18:02PM >> [INAUDIBLE]

4:18:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
SPEAKING OF SWANN PARK, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF
MISINFORMATION.
GOING OUT THERE AND WORKING.
THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT GOING ON FOREVER.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
I PICKED IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
I WILL SAY ONE THING, IN DEFENSE OF THIS AREA, THERE'S BEEN
NO INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY ON ANY PARK INVESTMENT.
ALL THE STUFF YOU SEE IN THE AREA HAS BEEN PRIVATE
INVESTMENT.
INVESTMENT IN PARKS, WE SHOULD NOT PUSH BACK ON.
AND THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE PARK AREAS IN THAT AREA ANYWAY.
4:18:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ISSUE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING, YOU
KNOW, THE ART FOLKS WERE PROMISED AN ART BUILDING.
4:18:43PM >> I DON'T KNOW.
THEY HAVE JCC.
4:18:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JCC ISN'T ENOUGH.
WE NEED MORE SPACE.
I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS NOT DONE.
THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE IOTA OF ANYTHING IN THE PARKS MASTER
PLAN ABOUT THIS PARK.
4:18:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BUT, AGAIN --
4:19:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M JUST SAYING.

4:19:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AND WE TALK
ABOUT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES AROUND THE CITY OF
TAMPA THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF TAMPA HAS GOTTEN ALMOST
NOTHING.
4:19:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE JUST GAVE $2.5 MILLION TO SOUTH TAMPA
PARKS.
4:19:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT IN THIS AREA OF SOUTH TAMPA.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AREA THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY
INVESTMENT IN.
I KEEP HEARING THIS INFORMATION ABOUT SWANN PARK.
BY THE WAY, I WORKED WITH THE ARTS PEOPLE YESTERDAY.
TOOK AN IOU TO TALK ABOUT -- THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING
PRIVATE FUND-RAISING.
I TOOK THE IOU FROM THEM THAT I WOULD WORK WITH PARKS AND
REC TO SEE IF THERE WAS SPACE TO RESERVE IN THAT AREA SO IF
THEY WERE ABLE TO RAISE THE CAPITAL TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD HAVE CONVERTIBLE SPACE TO DEDICATE
IT.
I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A WIN-WIN SOLUTION.
TED FOWLER, IF YOU ARE STILL LISTENING, PROBABLY NOT.
YOU'RE IN THE CAR.
IF SOMEBODY TELLS YOU MY OFFICE IS GOING TO BE CALLING YOU
TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
IN FRONT OF YOU ALL, MR. SHELBY PASSED OUT THE QUESTIONS OR
THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD SUBMITTED TO THE CHARTER REVIEW

COMMISSION FROM COUNCIL FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.
WHEN WE HAVE THAT WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 24, I WOULD LIKE YOU
ALL TO REVIEW THOSE COUNCIL SUGGESTIONS AND BE PREPARED TO
DISCUSS THAT ALONG WITH ANY OTHER ISSUES YOU WOULD LIKE TO
DISCUSS, REFERENCE THE COUNCIL CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
RECOMMENDATIONS.
4:20:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL GO OVER THE QUESTIONS.
I WILL ANSWER THEM ONE BY ONE.
CAN I GET FIVE, SIX MINUTES TO GO DOWN AND SAY YES, NO, YES,
NO, QUICK EXPLANATION.
4:20:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S GOING TO BE A WORKSHOP.
SO WE'LL HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT THESE THINGS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT DIDN'T CATCH YOU BY SURPRISE
SO YOU COULD SPEND THE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN HAVING THAT
INTERNAL CONVERSATION AND RESEARCH TO TRY TO REFRESH YOUR
MEMORY ABOUT WHAT WE SUGGESTED.
JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'RE IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
WE HANDED THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS OFF TO THE COMMISSION
THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, THAT COMMISSION HAS MADE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT'S COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
COUNCIL WILL DO A VOTE UP OR DOWN ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE OUR OWN
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THIS IS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.

THAT'S WHAT WILL KICK OFF ON THAT WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 24
OF 2026.
I KNOW I HAD SOMETHING ELSE I WAS GOING TO SAY.
4:21:41PM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:21:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THINK ABOUT IT WHILE I SAY SOMETHING.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I MAY.
A LOT OF US KNOW VIVIAN KITCHEN, A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY
LEADER.
SINCE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS, I HAD SPOKEN TO,
COMMUNICATED WITH HER SON.
SHE'S OBVIOUSLY BEING HONORED BY THE NAACP WHICH IS
MARVELOUS.
I WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE OFF-SITE THAT WE COULD DO
AND EVERYBODY AT COUNCIL COULD BE TO HONOR THIS.
I DO THIS JUST TO GET IT OUT THERE, PRESENT IT.
IT'S YOUR DISTRICT.
GLAD TO HAVE YOU DO THAT.
WE CAN ALL DO IT.
4:22:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A COMMENDATION.
4:22:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BUT OFF-SITE.
4:22:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DATE TO BE DETERMINED?
4:22:23PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH.
4:22:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FOR OFF-SITE DATE TO BE DETERMINED
TO MS. KITCHEN.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT THE SECOND THING I WAS GOING TO SAY.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE --
4:22:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M NOT DONE, IF I MAY.
SIX MORE WEEKS.
GIVE ME KINDNESS.
REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY, I SENT YOU ALL A LETTER ON AN ISSUE
WITH TAMPA FIRE STATION ONE AND RENAMING WITH FRANZ WARNER
AND ISAAC.
IT WILL COME AFTER I LEAVE.
JUST FYI.
I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL TO HANDLE THIS.
I HEARD THINGS ABOUT THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AT THE BUDGET HEARING.
SHOULD I DO A MOTION TO HAVE IT ON THE DOCKET.
IF I MAY, I'LL HAVE A MOTION TO PUT THAT IN OUR FORTHCOMING
HEARING ON THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP AND THAT'S IT.
4:23:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE ABOUT THE
HEARING.
THANK YOU.
4:23:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M GOING TO SUGGEST, COUNCILMAN, THAT YOU
JUST MAKE A NOTE TO BRING IT UP AND ADVISE COUNCIL RATHER
THAN MAKE A MOTION.
IT IS A VERY FORMAL PROCESS FOR THE SECOND READING AND

ADOPTION.
4:23:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET IT BE KNOWN.
BE READY.
4:23:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
4:23:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS A GOOD REMINDER.
THAT WAS THE ISSUE I WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THAT WE
HAVE OUR SECOND READING OF THE FY 2027 BUDGET NEXT TUESDAY
NIGHT AT 5:01 P.M.
HERE IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
SO THAT IS THE SECOND READING OF THE FY 2027 BUDGET.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
MOST OF THE MOVING PARTS WILL COME BACK TO US AFTER NEXT
TUESDAY.
I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN VERY
INVOLVED IN ENSURING THOSE THINGS OCCUR.
ANYTHING ELSE?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.