📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 2026, 5:01 P.M.

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5:05:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
AFTER DARK.
THAT'S RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND ASK THE CLERK
TO CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.
5:05:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
5:05:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
5:05:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
5:05:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
5:05:53PM >> VIERA?
CARLSON?
5:05:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
5:05:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
5:05:55PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:05:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL BE JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
HE'S ON.

THAT'S GOOD.
5:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO ALLOW --
5:06:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN WOMAN HURTAK TO ALLOW VIERA TO
PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
HOPE YOU ARE FEELING BETTER.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
I WILL BE LEAVING EARLY THIS EVENING -- COUNCILMAN VIERA,
YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
5:06:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
5:06:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN, YES.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN SEE YOU, TOO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
I'M GOING TO BE LEAVING EARLY THIS EVENING AS WELL.
IT WILL BE AFTER ITEM NUMBER 3, SO SOMETIME THIS EVENING.
I HAVE TO DRIVE TO NAPLES FOR A MEETING TOMORROW FOR FLORIDA
LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR TOMORROW AND SATURDAY.
JUST FYI, BUT WE WILL HAVE A QUORUM.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
5:06:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW AND THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T, I AM
UNDERGOING CHEMO FOR BREAST CANCER RIGHT NOW.
I TEND TO GET TIRED IN THE EVENING.
I'M GOING TO TRY, IF I NEED TO LAY DOWN, I'LL BE BEHIND HERE
IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM.

BUT THERE IS A BIG TELEVISION ON AND I'LL BE ABLE TO WATCH.
I'M HOPING IF I HAVE TO DO THAT, IT WON'T BE FOR VERY LONG.
BUT OCCASIONALLY I WILL NEED TO DO THAT.
ANY PERSON OR APPLICANT THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT, PLEASE
SAY SOMETHING WHEN YOU GET UP TO SPEAK AND THEN I WILL TRY
TO STAY IN CHAMBERS FOR THAT ONE.
BUT I'LL ALSO LET YOU KNOW WHEN I'M GOING BACK.
THIS IS ALL NEW TO ALL OF US, WE'RE KIND OF TESTING STUFF
OUT TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
5:07:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE CAN HEAR AND MONITOR THE PUBLIC
HEARING AND COME BACK OUT TO VOTE IF SHE NEEDS TO VOTE.
SHE WILL BE FULLY ENGAGED.
JUST FYI.
MR. COLLINS, I SEE YOU ARE THERE TO HELP CLEAR THE AGENDA.
5:07:50PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
I HAVE A FEW ITEMS WE NEED TO MOVE ON THE AGENDA.
FIRST IS ITEM 6.
TA/CPA 26-04.
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2410 NORTH BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO JANUARY 28,
2027 PUBLIC HEARING.
5:08:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

5:08:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO DO THE ADDRESS, TIME AND
EVERYTHING.
5:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL ANNOUNCE IT WHEN WE GET THE VOTE --
5:08:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 6 TO JANUARY 28,
2027, 5:01 P.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602.
5:08:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
5:08:39PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 7.
TA/CPA 26-06.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1860 EAST FOWLER AVENUE.
THIS APPLICATION IS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH AN ANNEXATION
APPLICATION THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER AND THEREFORE
CAN'T MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE TO THE DECEMBER 3,
2026 PUBLIC HEARING.
5:09:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM TA/CPA 26-06 TO
THE DECEMBER 3rd, 2026 PUBLIC HEARING, 5:01 P.M., 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:09:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
5:09:21PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND CHAIRMAN.
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 13, FILE AB2-26-03, NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE
AGENDA.
5:09:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE ON THE RECORD?
5:09:39PM >> IT WAS NEVER PROPERLY NOTICED.
5:09:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA TO REMOVE ITEM 13 FROM THE AGENDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
5:09:50PM >> WE'RE REQUESTING A RESET ON THAT FOR DECEMBER 3rd.
5:09:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE JUST REMOVED IT FROM THE AGENDA.
SOMETHING YOU'LL DEAL WITH STAFF.
5:09:59PM >> STAFF WILL DEAL WITH IT.
DECEMBER 3rd, IT WILL COME BACK.
5:10:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD SEEING THAT ON THE AGENDA BASED ON NORMAL
SUBMISSION.

5:10:09PM >> THANK YOU.
5:10:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE?
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, ITEM NUMBER 1, LET'S TALK BROWNFIELDS.
HOW EXCITING.
5:10:26PM >> GOOD EVENING.
BETH LE.
5:10:36PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
5:10:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:10:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
5:10:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
THESE ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
DO YOU NOT HAVE TO BE SWORN IN.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
5:11:01PM >> GOOD EVENING.

BETH LE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED
BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY CONSISTING OF A
PARCEL GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF
NORTH 46th STREET AND EAST FLETCHER AVENUE.
ACE FLETCHER LLC IS REQUESTING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY
AS BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ASSESSMENT AND
REMEDIATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON THE
PROPERTY.
DETAILS OF THIS DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN A STAFF
REPORT FOR THE FLETCHER DISTRICT GREEN REUSE SITE PROPOSED
BROWNFIELD AREA WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW ONLINE
AND AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
CITY STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THAT ALL STATUTORY AND PUBLIC
NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMEND THAT THE
COUNCIL APPROVE THIS DESIGNATION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, STAFF REQUESTS
COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING THE FLETCHER
DISTRICT GREEN REUSE SITE AS A BROWNFIELD AREA AS SPECIFIED
IN CHAPTER 376 OF FLORIDA STATUTES.
A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
5:12:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM

1?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
5:12:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
5:12:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION FOR NUMBER 1.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
5:12:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
5:12:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:12:28PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:12:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:12:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:12:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:12:36PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:12:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:12:39PM >> THIS IS BETH LE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR
ROBLES PARK.
THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROPOSED
BROWNFIELD AREA DESIGNATION OF A PROPERTY CONSISTING OF

THREE ADJOINING PARCELS THAT ARE GENERALLY LOCATED AT 3601
NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, 3814 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, AND 501
EAST LAKE AVENUE.
ROBLES PARK LLC AND OPEN SPACE ACQUISITIONS LLC ARE
REQUESTING THIS DESIGNATION OF THESE PROPERTIES AS A
BROWNFIELD AREA TO ASSIST IN THE ASSESSMENT AND REMEDIATION
OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT MAY EXIST ON-SITE.
DETAILS OF THE DESIGNATION HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THE STAFF
REPORT FOR THE ROBLES PARK PROPOSED BROWNFIELD AREA
DESIGNATION WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW ONLINE AND
AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
CITY STAFF HAVE DETERMINED THAT ALL STATUTORY AND PUBLIC
NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL
APPROVE THIS DESIGNATION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, STAFF
REQUESTS COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING ROBLES
PARK AS A BROWNFIELD AREA AS SPECIFIED IN CHAPTER 376 OF THE
FLORIDA STATUTE.
A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
5:13:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO ITEM 2.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE, OPPOSED?

AYES HAVE IT.
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM 2 FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
5:14:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
5:14:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
5:14:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
5:14:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
5:14:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
5:14:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
5:14:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
5:14:12PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:14:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD.
HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:14:20PM >> GOOD EVENING.
QUINN STEELE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR CCTV.
5:14:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, ON THE COUNCIL
MONITORS, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY.
CC -- DID I SAY PLANNING COMMISSION?
CCTV.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE IT.
GO AHEAD.
5:14:49PM >>QUINN STEELE:
QUINN STEELE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
TA/CPA 26-05, WHICH IS A MAP AMENDMENT FOR 3541 NORTH
BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS PRIVATELY INITIATED AND SMALL
SCALE COVERING APPROXIMATELY 1.34 ACRES.
THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO THE
RESIDENTIAL 3 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
HERE IS A GENERAL LOCATION MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
PLANNING DISTRICT, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
HERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS
OUTLINED IN YELLOW ALONG NORTH BOULEVARD.
HISTORICALLY, THE PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA
AND WAS SOLD TO THE GREATER SHOWMEN'S ASSOCIATION IN 1971.
THE PARCEL IS CURRENTLY UNDER PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.
PROPERTIES EAST OF THE RED DASHED LINES ARE WITHIN THE TAMPA
HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE, WHILE PROPERTIES WEST OF THE LINE ARE
OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN VILLAGE AND PRIMARILY DEVELOPED WITH
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE SITE IS THE SHOWMEN'S REST
CEMETERY.

WHILE BETH ISRAEL CEMETERY AND WOODLAWN CEMETERY ARE LOCATED
TO THE EAST AND SOUTH.
THERE IS A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY LOCATED AT THE
SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE BLOCK.
ADDITIONAL, CALVIN TAYLOR PARK IS LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST
AND PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST.
THIS IS A PHOTO LOOKING WEST ON THE SUBJECT SITE TOWARDS
NORTH BOULEVARD.
A PHOTO LOOKING SOUTH AT THE SUBJECT SITE, NORTH BOULEVARD
IS OUT OF FRAME TO THE RIGHT.
THE SHOWMEN'S REST CEMETERY IS BEHIND THE CAMERA.
LOOKING EAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE ADJACENT SHOWMEN'S
REST CEMETERY FROM NORTH BOULEVARD, LOOKING WEST ACROSS
NORTH BOULEVARD FROM THE SUBJECT SITE, AND LOOKING NORTH ON
WEST INDIANA AVENUE, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE AS
PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC IN BLUE.
SHOWMEN'S REST CEMETERY AND BETH ISRAEL CEMETERY TO THE
NORTH AND EAST AS WELL AS THE CHURCH TO THE SOUTH ARE ALSO
DESIGNATED PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC.
WOODLAWN CEMETERY AS WELL AS CALVIN TAYLOR PARK AND PLYMOUTH
PLAYGROUND ARE DESIGNATED RECREATION OPEN SPACE IN GREEN.
PROPERTIES WEST OF NORTH BOULEVARD ARE PRIMARILY DESIGNATED
RESIDENTIAL 10.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AS RESIDENTIAL 3
IN YELLOW.
R 3 IS ONE OF THE LOWEST RESIDENTIAL DENSITY CATEGORIES IN
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF THREE
DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
UNDER THE EXISTING PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION THERE ARE
NO DEFINED MAXIMUMS FOR RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS DETERMINED BY COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UNDER THE PROPOSED R-3 DESIGNATION, THE SITE CAN BE
CONSIDERED FOR UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS, NEIGHBORHOOD,
OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, ALTHOUGH
CERTAIN USES SUCH AS DAY CARES AND CHURCHES COULD BE
CONSIDERED AT A MAXIMUM OF JUST OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD INTRODUCE A LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC
USES WOULD NO LONGER BE REQUIRED ON THE SITE.
WE SENT THIS OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
HAD AN OBJECTION.
CITY STAFF FINDS THAT THE LONG-TERM PLANNING VISION OF THE
CITY FAVORS A MORE CONSERVATIVE, THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO THE
DEVELOPMENT AROUND CEMETERY USES, WHICH IS BETTER
ACCOMMODATED UNDER THE ADOPTED P/SP FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION.
WHILE FORMULATING A RECOMMENDATION, PLANNING COMMISSION

STAFF REVIEWS ALL RELATED POLICIES REGARDING THE PROPOSED
REQUEST AS DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF REPORT, APPLICANT
SUBMITTED A DPR STUDY THAT CONCLUDED THAT GRAVES ARE NOT
LIKELY PRESENT ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
IF ANY POTENTIAL BURIAL RESOURCES ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE
FUTURE, THEY WOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH SUBSEQUENT
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PERMITTING PROCESSES.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
FIRST COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED R 3 DESIGNATION WOULD INTRODUCE A LOW DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS LOWER DENSITY THAN
THE SURROUNDING R-10 DESIGNATION.
THIS REQUEST WOULD ALSO PROMOTE INFILL DEVELOPMENT BY
PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON
UNDEVELOPED PARCEL WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
LASTLY ENSURING AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING, THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENT WOULD SUPPORT ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES BY
ALLOWING LIMITED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT A MAXIMUM
DENSITY OF THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP
AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES,
AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'M
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:19:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

5:19:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE THERE ANY PARCELS WITHIN A MILE THAT ARE
R-3?
5:19:18PM >>QUINN STEELE:
IT'S MOSTLY IN THE NEW TAMPA AREA.
5:19:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
NEW TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
5:19:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN YOU PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK
UP?
CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR MAP WHERE YOU SHOW THE LAND USE?
ACTUALLY, GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE WHERE EXISTING.
THIS IS WHERE I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.
I BROUGHT THIS UP DURING MY BRIEFING.
WE LOOK -- REGARDLESS OF ALL THE STUFF OF GETTING IN THE
WEEDS ABOUT THIS ISSUE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN WE'RE
ADOPTING LAND USE POLICY, WE ARE ALWAYS COMPARING
NEIGHBORHOODS AND ADJACENT PARCELS.
IT SEEMS THIS WAS VERY INTENTIONAL AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST
FOR THIS MASSIVE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX
BY, WHAT, FIVE OR SIX SQUARE BLOCKS OF PROPERTY TO BE
PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC.
IT JUST RINGS -- AGAIN, IF THIS WAS ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A DIFFERENT USE RIGHT SMACK
IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, I WOULD THINK THAT THE PLANNING
COMMISSION WOULD COME BACK COMPLETELY INCONSISTENT WITH

THAT.
IF THIS WAS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A
RESIDENTIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT OR IF IT WAS RESIDENTIAL AND
WE'LL PUT A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT OR PUTTING
-- I DON'T KNOW -- SINGLE-FAMILY APARTMENTS AND WANTED TO
PUT A MASSIVE APARTMENT THERE, I THINK WE WOULD FIND
INCONSISTENT.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME.
I WOULD LOVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADDRESS THAT, HOW
PLACING, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS LARGE PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC SQUARE
FOOTAGE SO SYMMETRICAL.
COULDN'T GET ANY MORE SYMMETRICAL BASICALLY IF YOU HAD ASKED
FOR IT.
WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THERE GOING AND CHANGING THAT.
5:21:03PM >>QUINN STEELE:
SO THE PARCEL IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
P/SP FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION RECOGNIZES PUBLIC AND
PUBLIC SUPPORTING USES.
THERE IS NO PROPOSED OR PUBLIC SUPPORTING USES ON THIS
PRIVATELY OWNED PARCEL, THEREFORE IT WOULD NEED TO COME OUT
OF THE P/SP FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IN ORDER TO DEVELOP.
WITH ANY USES AND THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
RESIDENTIAL 3, AND I THINK THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE INTENT OF
WHY THEY CHOSE THAT DESIGNATION.
5:21:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS CURIOUS WHY THE CONSISTENT
RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, AND IT'S SO UNIFORM.

IT SEEMS ODDBALL TO ME, BECAUSE SO UNIFORM.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MIX, I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WE WOULD
HAVE GOTTEN A CONSISTENT REVIEW FROM YOU GUYS.
DANA, DID YOU WANT TO ADD -- DANNY, DID YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING TO THAT?
5:21:52PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
WOODLAWN CEMETERY, WHICH IS THE RECREATION OPEN SPACE TO THE
EAST OF THE SITE WAS ONE OF THE -- YOU MIGHT REMEMBER ONE OF
THE PARK INITIATED AMENDMENTS A FEW YEARS BACK.
THAT WAS INITIALLY P/SP, AND THEN IT WAS AMENDED TO THE
RECREATION OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION.
WE DID NOT INITIATE THE BLUE -- THE CEMETERY TO THE NORTH,
WHICH IS THE BLUE.
WE DID NOT INITIATE THOSE BECAUSE THOSE WERE PRIVATELY OWNED
AT THE TIME.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT FOR CONTEXT.
5:22:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING.
5:22:29PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S STAFF
RECOMMENDATION?
DID THEY HAVE ANY ADVICE THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM --
5:22:34PM >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS CONSISTENT
AS WELL.
5:22:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

HEARING NONE.
5:22:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
5:22:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
1971 I THINK THEY SAID.
OKAY.
VERY GOOD.
APPLICANT?
5:22:51PM >> GOOD EVENING, ISABELLE ALBERT WITH HALFF.
I'M A CERTIFIED PLANNER HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THE
SHOWMEN'S ASSOCIATION, WHICH ARE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, AS
WELL AS MR. MALLOY.
I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC QUASI-PUBLIC OR
PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S QUESTIONS OF WHAT CAN BE DONE
THERE.
THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY NOT INTENDED TO BE AN OPEN SPACE OR
RECREATION USE JUST LIKE THE SITE ADJACENT THAT ARE GREEN.
INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED.
DEVELOPED WITH EITHER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS.
IT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH SCHOOLS.
IT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH PUBLIC AIRPORT, A PARKING
STRUCTURE.
IT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH A PARKING LOT.
AS WELL AS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE CEMETERY, BUT ALSO WITH
OTHER PUBLIC USES.

AND THESE PUBLIC USES YOU'LL FIND THEM UNDER THE ZONING
DISTRICT IN WHICH IT'S LOCATED IN.
CURRENTLY, THE ZONING DISTRICTS ALLOWS FOR THESE TYPES OF
USES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC OR
SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE, AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE DAY CARE,
NURSING FACILITIES.
IT WOULD INCLUDE CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY, GOLF COURSE,
COMMUNITY GARDENS, CHURCHES, JUST LIKE THE CHURCH TO THE
SOUTH OF US, AND ALSO IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR SCHOOLS AND
THINGS AS SUCH.
THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THE SITE DOES PERMIT FOR
COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL USE UP TO SIX RESIDENTS.
IT BASICALLY ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL HOME ON-SITE WITH SIX
UNRELATED PEOPLE, BUT THE REASON WE HAVE TO REQUEST A
RESIDENTIAL THREE LAND USE IS BECAUSE WE WANT, AGAIN, A
RESIDENTIAL HOME WITH SIX FAMILY MEMBERS.
THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR RES 3, IT IS THE LOWEST CATEGORY
PERMITTED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
PREVIOUSLY A RES 10 WAS REQUESTED AND IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED
APPROVAL.
FOUND IT TOO INTENSIVE.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DO THE RES 3 TO SHOW THE INTENT OF
DEVELOPING THE SITE WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON-SITE.
AS I SAID, THE APPLICATION THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN BACK
IN 2021 IT REQUESTED FOR RESIDENTIAL 10 WITH THE INTENT OF

DOING A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMUNITY, CITIZENS, AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
FOUND IT TOO INTENSIVE.
SO, THEREFORE, WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH A RESIDENTIAL 3 FOR
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT.
STAFF REPORT FOUND THE REQUEST COMPATIBLE WITH THE
SURROUNDING AREA, SUPPORTING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GROWTH
MANAGEMENT AND THE HOUSING OBJECTIVES.
THEY THEN FOLLOW UP WITH 24 DIFFERENT GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND
POLICIES, INCLUDING THE LIVABLE CITIES.
THE CITY DESIGNED TO PROMOTE DIFFERENT RANGE OF USES IN
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER.
IT ALSO, THE CITY PLANNING STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE
POPULATION GROWTH IN THE TAMPA AREA AS WELL AS ENCOURAGING
INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED SITES SUCH AS
THIS ONE.
URBAN VILLAGE MAKES SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED IS
COMPATIBLE AND SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE-FAMILY
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THIS RES 3 DOES PERMIT THAT.
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE THERE'S
LAND AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THIS ONE
AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY AREA TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING
SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AS THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE
CONSISTENT.

PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE NEEDS AS WELL AS THE NEW HOUSING ON
VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND.
INFRASTRUCTURE POLICIES, CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE
AS SUSTAINABILITY, RESILIENCY AND BY DOING THE INFILL
DEVELOPMENT.
LASTLY, SINCE THE 2021 DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE THAT THESE
POLICIES WERE INTRODUCED FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA CEMETERIES.
ALTHOUGH THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE STATE SITE, THIS IS A
PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT THEY DO TALK ABOUT TRYING TO USE THE
LATEST TECHNIQUES, TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS MODERN SCIENTIFIC
ANALYSIS TO BE PERFORMED ON-SITE WITH SOME CONCERNS.
AND THEREFORE, WITH THE HISTORY OF THE SITE AND UNFOUNDED
CLAIMS THAT WERE DONE IN THE PAST, WE WENT FORWARD AND WE
HIRED DR. ERIN KIMMERLE AND HER TEAM WHO ARE FROM THE
FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGY AND APPLIED
SCIENCE.
THEY DID AN EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS AND INVESTIGATION ON THE
SITE, AND THEY FOUND NO DEFINITE EVIDENCE OF BURIALS
THROUGHOUT THE INVESTIGATION.
SO WITH THAT, WHEN WE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ADOPTED THE
ADOPTION OF THE CPA REQUEST.
WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I HAVE WITH ME MR. MALLOY WHO WILL COME AND PRESENT AND I

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
5:28:19PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD EVENING.
WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
I JUST HAVE A FEW VERY DIRECT POINTS I WANT TO MAKE ON THIS
PARTICULAR CASE.
THE FIRST ONE, AND I CAN'T -- I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH, I
THINK THERE IS POSSIBLY A NOTION OUT THERE THAT THIS
PROPERTY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED.
WHAT MS. ALBERT JUST WENT THROUGH AND WHAT I HOPE YOU WERE
ABLE TO GLEAN FROM THAT, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
IT'S SEVERELY RESTRICTED IN WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED BUT YOU
CAN BREAK GROUND HERE.
ANY ACTION TONIGHT IS NOT UNWINDING A PROTECTION BY ANY
MEANS.
IT'S JUST CHANGING THE LAND USE.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE LEGALLY CONSTRUCTED TODAY ON
THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEY ARE NOT IDEAL.
THEY ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, BUT THEY EXIST.
THE SECOND POINT, AND THIS GELS WITH THAT, THIS IS PRIVATE
PROPERTY.
IT'S GOT A VERY UNFORTUNATE PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION
THAT IS VIRTUALLY USELESS TO A PRIVATE CITIZEN.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS AN INVERSE CONDEMNATION OR REGULATORY
TAKING BUT IT IS PROBLEMATIC.

NOT A PLANNING ISSUE BUT NOT AN ISSUE A PRIVATE CITIZEN
SHOULD BE IN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THEY DID GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS VERY APPROPRIATELY TO
SEGREGATE THE PARCEL FROM THE LARGER DEFINED BLOCK OF P/SP
TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEARLY DEFINED AND DELINEATED.
WITH THAT, I'LL INVITE MR. RON BATTEN UP HERE WHO HAS BEEN A
VERY FAITHFUL STEWARD OF THIS PROJECT AND HAS A LOT OF
INSIGHT ON THE HISTORY.
5:29:55PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS RON BATTON WITH PEOPLES CHOICE REALTY.
BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR 36 YEARS.
BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE AN OUTLAY OF HOW THIS GOT
STARTED.
I WAS BROUGHT IN IN APRIL OF 2025 BY SHOWMEN'S REST.
THE IDEA WAS THEY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO FUND THEIR
CEMETERY SO THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULDN'T BE HAZARD BY
TAKING IT OVER OR HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT IN THE FUTURE.
THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY.
BASICALLY, I PROFESSIONALLY ANALYZED WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF
ME.
THE FIRST THING I'VE DISCOVERED WAS THE HISTORICAL
DESIGNATION AS A CEMETERY WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THIS PROPERTY LOST ITS DESIGNATION IN MAY OF 2025.
AND THEN IN JUNE OF 2011, THEY POSTED IT.

AND THEN I FIND OUT IN 2025, APRIL 28, 2025, THAT THERE ARE
OPPOSING SIDE, SOMEBODY FROM THE OPPOSING SIDE, WHICH I HAVE
THE SIGNED DOCUMENTS IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT, THEY PUT IN
TO REINSTATE IT AS A HISTORICAL CEMETERY WITHOUT THE OWNER'S
KNOWLEDGE OR WITHOUT ANYBODY APPROVING THAT.
ANYWAY, THAT WAS ONE THING I FOUND OUT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THEN I REALIZED ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL MET ON THIS PROPERTY
IN 2022, THAT EVEN IF THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO APPROVE
THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MAUSOLEUM ON THIS FOLIO
NUMBER, THAT I TOLD THE OWNERS THAT WE NEED TO DIVIDE IT UP.
SO WE DIVIDED IT UP AND MADE IT THREE PARCELS.
THE ORIGINAL FOLIO NUMBER AREA CALL 51, THE ORIGINAL
CEMETERY, AND THEN THE NEW -- THE FOLIO NUMBER ALREADY THERE
ON THE LARGE PIECE IS NOW THE MIDDLE PIECE.
THE BOTTOM PIECE GOT A NEW FOLIO NUMBER.
THEN WE CHANGED THE OWNERSHIP NAME TO MEMBERS OF THE
SHOWMEN'S REST JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER DESIGNATE IT FROM
SHOWMEN'S REST.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE ON THIS.
THEY SPENT MONEY ON GETTING SURVEYS.
I WENT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS THROUGH THE CITY TO GET
THE FOLIO APPROVED.
THAT ALL HAPPENED IN JULY OF 2025.
THE PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
RS 50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50-FOOT FRONTS, BUT THIS

QUASI-PUBLIC HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD WITH THE
PROPERTY.
SHOWMEN'S REST SINCE 2022 HAS SPENT OVER $115,000 TRYING TO
KEEP THE PROPERTY ALIVE, KEEP THE ROOF DRIED IN.
HAD TO FIX THE WALL AND THEN ALSO ALL THE STUFF WE HAD TO DO
TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
THEY ARE IN DEBT FOR THIS.
THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO THIS STUFF.
DON'T HAVE ANOTHER YEAR LEFT IN THE ORGANIZATION TO KEEP THE
PLACE GOING.
CONCLUSION: WE HAVE THREE SEISMIC STUDIES THAT YOU -- WE
HAVE TWO GEOVIEWS AND THEN THIS USF STUDY.
ALL OF THEM STATED IN THEIR PROGNOSIS OR ANALYSIS THAT THERE
WAS NO BURIALS.
THE ONLY WAY TO BE 100% SURE WAS TO DIG.
WHEN USF WENT THIS LAST TIME, THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DO A
DIG.
THEY WERE GOING TO BRING IN EXCAVATING EQUIPMENT.
THEY DID SURVEYS 40 FEET DOWN.
NOBODY IS -- ANYWAY, BOTTOM LINE IS, THERE WAS NOTHING, NO
REASON TO BRING IN THE EQUIPMENT TO DO ANY KIND OF DIGGING.
SO THAT WAS MY CONCLUSION.
I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS.
THEY NEED THE MONEY TO KEEP THE CITY, BECOMING A BURDEN TO
THE CITY IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
5:33:35PM >> SLIDE -- CURTIS CARLIN.
I AM THE PERSON WITH THE CONTRACT ON THE PROPERTY.
5:33:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PUT THE PRESENTATION BACK UP, PLEASE.
5:33:46PM >> THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS QUICK.
IT'S AMAZING HOW QUICK THIS CLOCK MOVES.
I'LL CUT SOME OF MY COMMENTS.
I WOULD OFFER THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
I'M A MARINE, 30 YEARS RETIRED NOW.
TAMPA IS HOME FOR US.
WE MOVED A DOZEN TIMES THROUGH MY CAREER, BUT THIS IS ALWAYS
WHERE WE CAME BACK TO BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I GREW UP.
VERY PROUD OF MY FAMILY, VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO IN TAMPA.
THE CENTER PICTURE IS FOUR GENERATIONS OF SERVING THE
HOMELESS AND THOSE WHO NEED WARM FOOD THE MOST IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
AND THAT PROPERTY, YES, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BUILD OUR
FOREVER HOME.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS QUICK.
PLEASE, ASK DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT.
I'M MORE THAN READY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE CAN'T
PIECE MEAL THIS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I BELIEVE THIS PROCESS HIGHLIGHTS THE RIGHT PROCESS FOR
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE WENT THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT THE HISTORY.
WE LOOKED AT THE LAND.
WE LOOKED AT GROUND TRUTH.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN MY WIFE AND I WALKED INTO THIS,
WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WE WALKED INTO.
WE WERE LIKE, WOW, LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.
WE PULLED THE STRING, HOLY SMOKES.
MY ONLY INTENTION WAS LET'S LISTEN.
LET'S GO FIND OUT WHERE THIS GOES.
LET'S FIND OUT WHERE THE QUESTIONS MEET US.
THAT'S WHAT I DID.
I ENDED UP LISTENING TO A MULTIPLE HOUR PAST CITY COMMISSION
HEARING.
I READ ALL THE REPORTS, EVERYTHING.
AND IT LEFT A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS AND SEAMS I FELT NEEDED
TO BE CLOSED UP.
THAT'S WHY I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO SAY LET'S DO THE RIGHT
THING HERE.
LET'S MAKE SURE -- BECAUSE I KNOW THE HISTORY OF TAMPA.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
WE WENT OUT AND WANTED TO FIND OUT AND AT THE END OF THE
DAY, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES.

THERE IS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE ABOUT THE NORTHWEST
SECTION OF WOODLAWN HAVING UNMARKED BURIALS.
AND YOU HAVE KNOWN POTTER'S FIELD.
HOWEVER, THE REPORT I EXPECTED TO GET A YES-NO.
I DIDN'T EXPECT A 40 PAGE ANTHROPOLOGICAL HISTORY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.
IT'S NOT EASY TO READ.
WHEN YOU READ AND UNDERSTAND, THE MAP ON THE LEFT, WHAT
HAPPENED, THAT MAP BACK 1915, 16, USED AN INSERT.
UP TO THE NORTHWEST AND LAID IT IN THE OTHER MAP.
THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT OUTLINED DARKER AND WHY YOU SEE OLA IN
THE INSET MAP IS ACTUALLY WAY TO THE WEST.
IT'S NOT ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF WOODLAWN LIKE YOU TYPICALLY
KNOW IT TO BE.
WHAT THEY ENDED UP DOING, YOU CAN SEE THE WAY THE MAP
PLOTTED IT IS WHERE THE RED RECTANGLE IS.
THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE REASON WHY HISTORY REFLECTED WHAT IT
DID AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS TRUE CAN ACTUALLY BE SHOWN TO BE
A MISUNDERSTANDING.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ARTICULATING HERE.
THIS IS BIG.
I'M HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A THIRD OF A MILE AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE.
THEN YOU LOOK, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE REPORTS, WHAT IS THE

GROUNDING ACTUALLY TELLING US.
YOU CAN SEE AERIAL PHOTOS GOING BACK TO 1938.
THE ONE COMMENT THAT CAME OUT FROM THE STUDY IN PARTICULAR
SAID IT IS REMARKABLY UNCHANGED.
REMARKABLY UNCHANGED BECAUSE, WHY, THE CITY ACKNOWLEDGED IN
1925 THE AREA NEEDED TO BE DRAINED BECAUSE IT WAS A SWAMP.
SO THE STUDY SHOWED PRIOR TO 1925 ODDS ARE THERE WERE NO
BURIALS IN THAT AREA.
NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO A WINDOW OF TIME AND THEN THE STUDY
GOES FURTHER TO ASSESS WHAT IS ACTUALLY THERE AND THEY SEE
THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH HOW IT WAS DRAINED AND FILL DIRT
BROUGHT IN BETWEEN THAT TIME PERIOD IN 1938.
SO WE START PUTTING HISTORY TOGETHER.
BRING SCIENCE INTO THIS.
BRING TECHNOLOGY INTO THIS.
WE DID.
IT WASN'T JUST THE ONE STUDY.
IT WASN'T JUST A GPR, IT WAS ALL THE STUDIES.
ALL THE ONES FROM THE PAST.
ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
WE LAID IT ALL OUT.
WHERE DOES IT TAKE YOU?
WE DUG.
YOU CAN SEE THE SHINY WATER.
IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THE WATER TABLE IS RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT THE FILL DIRT.
THEY HAD ENTIRE ACCESS, NO LIMITS TO WHAT WE WERE GOING TO
DO.
SEARCH EVERYWHERE.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOWED.
THAT'S THE END OF IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:38:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAD A QUESTION.
5:38:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO, IT WAS ANSWERED.
5:38:09PM >> I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:38:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
5:38:17PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT
CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
5:38:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS THERE ARE ANY
QUESTIONS.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND UP FIVE
AT A TIME.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
FIVE AT A TIME AGAINST THE WALL.
WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM SINCE WE
HAVE PEOPLE HERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THE MICROPHONE IS

IN THE PODIUM.
YOU START ALWAYS WITH YOUR NAME.
IF YOU SPEAK ALWAYS WITH YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE
THREE MINUTES.
GREEN LIGHT COMES UP, THAT IS THE BEGINNING.
YELLOW LIGHT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS AND IT WILL DING.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.
WHEN IT TURNS RED, YOU HAVE TO STOP TALKING WHETHER MID
SENTENCE, MID WORD, MID ANYTHING, WHEN IT TURNS RED, TAKE A
SEAT AND WE'LL SAY THANK YOU.
WE HAVE ONLINE SPEAKERS AS WELL.
SINCE THEY ARE SITTING AT HOME AND COMFORTABLE, WE'LL GET TO
THEM WHEN THE PEOPLE IN HERE ARE DONE IN THE UNCOMFORTABLE
SEATS.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
5:39:22PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
JIM McCARTHY, 1317 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE.
5:39:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PAUSE IT FOR A SECOND.
THE MICROPHONE IS OMNIDIRECTIONAL.
YOU CAN STAND UP STRAIGHT.
5:39:36PM >> JIM McCARTHY, 1317 WEST WOODLAWN AVENUE.
I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET IN RIVER SIDE HEIGHTS.
BEEN THERE FOR 31 YEARS.
THIS PROPERTY IS JUST PART OF THE FABRIC OF OUR

NEIGHBORHOOD.
BEFORE I COMMENT ON MY OPINION ON THIS APPLICANT, LET ME
JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE IN PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
I BELIEVE IN CREATING ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF BEING CREATIVE WITH LAND.
BUT LET ME JUST SAY, SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE, THIS IS THE WRONG
THING.
THIS PROPERTY IS A CEMETERY.
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, IT'S A DUCK.
I BELIEVE IN HOUSING.
I BELIEVE IN SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M A HOME BUILDER.
I'VE CREATED OVER 850 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THE CITY.
BUT THIS PROPERTY IS A CEMETERY.
IF IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM A CEMETERY, I CAN SEE THAT.
BUT CONTIGUOUS WITHIN A CEMETERY, YOU KNOW THE HISTORY.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.
I'VE LOOKED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT.
THIS IS GOBBLEDYGOOK.
YOU DON'T HAVE RES 3 IN RIVER SIDE HEIGHTS AND TAMPA
HEIGHTS.
IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO TAKE THE ENTHUSIASM OF HIS FAMILY
AND LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S LOTS EVERYWHERE.

RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS, TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WELLS
WOOD.
I HAVE NINE LOTS ALL AROUND THERE.
YOU CAN BUY LOTS FROM 175,000 TO $400,000 IN RIVERSIDE
HEIGHTS.
THERE'S NO LACK OF AVAILABLE ATTAINABLE LOTS TO BUILD FOR
YOUR SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND FOR YOUR FAMILY, YOUR BEAUTIFUL
FAMILY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR.
THANK YOU.
BUT TAKE THAT ENTHUSIASM AND BE A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DON'T BUY A PROPERTY THAT'S NEXT TO SHOWMEN'S REST.
MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BARNEY DEGUSIE, CHARLIE, I THINK YOU
REMEMBER BARNEY.
BEST STORYTELLER EVER.
HE WOULD TELL ME ABOUT GROWING UP IN YBOR CITY.
HE WOULD GO OUT AS A KID AND EAT GUAVA FROM THE TREES.
GO TO CUSCADEN PARK AND PLAY BASEBALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHEN A CEMETERY FUNERAL PROCEDURE WAS GOING BY, YOU KNOW
WHAT THE KIDS DID, THEY STOPPED.
THEY STOPPED PLAYING BALL.
THEY TOOK THEIR CAP OFF BECAUSE THEY RESPECTED THE PERSON
THAT WAS BEING BURIED.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE JUST GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS.
YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
YOU HAVE BABIES THAT WEREN'T BORN IN THIS CEMETERY.
IT'S SACRED GROUND AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
DO NOT APPROVE LETTING THAT PARCEL OF PROPERTY BECOME
SINGLE-FAMILY OR ANY OTHER ATTAINABLE, ANYTHING.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SACRED GROUNDS.
PEOPLE DESERVE TO REST AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THANK YOU.
5:42:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
HELLO, MY FRIEND.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
5:42:25PM >> ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
5:42:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN.
5:42:33PM >> ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ, LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
CHARLIE, I WORE BLACK.
IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW.
I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING UP FRONT.
THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN ABOUT HIS 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO
OUR COUNTRY.
AND I RESPECT THAT SERVICE.
MY 18-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON IS ABOUT TO DEPLOY TO JORDAN NEXT
MONTH.

BUT NEITHER ONE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH LAND USE DECISION
BEFORE YOU TODAY.
THIS DECISION NEEDS TO BE ABOUT THE LAND AND THE EVIDENCE.
WOODLAWN IS APPROXIMATELY 38.9 ACRES.
IT'S A CEMETERY.
THIS PARCEL IS SURROUNDED BY CEMETERY LAND ON THE NORTH, ON
THE EAST, AND ON THE SOUTH.
BY THE WAY, OLA AVENUE IS THE EAST SIDE OF THE CEMETERY.
PLYMOUTH ON THE SOUTH, NORTH BOULEVARD ON THE WEST, INDIANA
ON THE NORTH.
BUT THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY CEMETERY ON THREE SIDES.
WOODLAWN HAS BEEN A CEMETERY SINCE 1888, 138 YEARS.
IT SHOULD REMAIN A CEMETERY.
THOSE OF US WHO WERE BORN AND RAISED HERE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN
IT WAS A CEMETERY.
AILEEN HAS GREAT GRANDPARENTS BURIED THERE.
I HAVE A GREAT GRANDFATHER.
HIS DAUGHTER, MY AUNT MARIA, THEY ARE BURIED THERE.
THESE ARE OUR FAMILIES.
THIS IS TAMPA'S HISTORY.
I NEED TO ADDRESS YOU.
AT THE SEPTEMBER 14 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE
PLANNING COMMISSION HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN DR. ERIN KIMMERLE'S
51-PAGE REPORT WHEN THEY MADE THEIR DECISION.
INSTEAD, COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE THE APPLICANT'S

CHARACTERIZATION OF THE REPORT.
THAT CHARACTERIZATION DID NOT TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
THE INVESTIGATION HAD LIMITATIONS, AND USF WAS NOT ABLE TO
EXCAVATE EVERY PART OF THE PARCEL.
SO PLEASE DON'T HEAR NOTHING WAS FOUND AND TRANSLATE THAT TO
THERE ARE NO BURIALS.
THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME THINGS.
THE QUESTION ISN'T WHETHER THE STUDY WAS DONE.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE STUDY PROVIDES ENOUGH CERTAINTY
TO MAKE A PERMANENT LAND USE DECISION.
WOODLAWN OPENED IN 1888.
SHOWMEN'S REST DID NOT ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY UNTIL 1951, 63
YEARS LATER.
THEY ACQUIRED THIS PARCEL IN 1971.
THAT MEANS DECADES OF CEMETERY HISTORY CAME BEFORE THE
ACQUISITION.
NOT EVERY BURIAL HAD A PERMANENT MARKER.
NOT EVERY PERSON BURIED IN A MODERN CASKET.
I ASK YOU WHY TAKE THAT CHANCE?
IF WE ARE WRONG AND THIS LAND IS DISTURBED WE CAN NEVER UNDO
IT.
WE'VE STOOD BEFORE YOU BEFORE AND WE ASKED YOU TO SAVE
WOODLAWN CEMETERY AND YOU DID.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE SAVE WOODLAWN
CEMETERY.

IT'S A CEMETERY.
ORLANDO GUDES SAID IT.
EJ SALCINES, IT'S A CEMETERY.
5:45:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, THE
ACOUSTICS IN HERE ARE REALLY GOOD.
BACK ROW THAT ARE TALKING, IF YOU GUYS NEED TO TALK, IF YOU
COULD TAKE IT OUTSIDE TO THE HALL, APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S CRAZY HOW WELL IT IS.
WHEN YOU WHISPER, IT DISTRACTS THE FOLKS AT THE PODIUM AND
WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY THEIR DO.
IF YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION, TAKE IT OUT THERE.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
VALERIE.
5:45:57PM >> GOOD EVENING.
VALERIE BULLOCK.
THIS IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE ZION 2.0.
WE KNOW ALL OVER THE CITY OF TAMPA WE HAVE APARTMENTS AND
KING SCHOOL BURIED ON TOP OF THE CEMETERY.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE PAST, BUT WE CAN VOTE NO TO
STOP IT FROM HAPPENING.
IT'S A SAD DAY WHEN WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING DOWN HERE BECAUSE
THEY WANT TO BUILD ON A CEMETERY.
YOU DON'T GET TO LIVE IN PEACE AND NOW YOU DON'T GET TO REST
IN PEACE.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS THE LAW WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE
PROPERTY.
IF THE LAND WAS DESIGNATED PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC LET'S KEEP IT
LIKE THAT.
THEY BOUGHT IT AND IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE BUYING LAND IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, AND THEY THINK THEY CAN GET THE ZONING
CHANGE.
EVERYBODY WHO PUT IN FOR A ZONING REQUEST DO NOT GET IT.
THAT IS JUST A CHANCE YOU HAVE TO TAKE.
AND BECAUSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION WAS REMOVED, THAT
DON'T NEGATE THE FACT THAT IT'S STILL A CEMETERY, WHETHER IT
HAS THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION OR NOT.
AND IF WE CAN'T GET A DEFINITIVE NO, ANY BODIES UP UNDER
THERE, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD VOTE NO.
THIS IS VERY DEPLORABLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:47:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE BREVITY.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
UP HERE.
THE GENTLEMAN IN THE CAGE.
5:47:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOUR NAMES.
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE PRESENCE.

SAMANTHA CARLIN.
MONTSE CARLIN.
ASHELL MANIBAR.
CLAUDIA FRIES.
THAT'S FOUR NAMES, PLUS THREE IS SEVEN.
5:47:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
SEVEN MINUTES.
5:48:01PM >> MITZI CARLIN.
I AM THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER FOR THIS PROPERTY.
I HAVE A JOURNALISM BACKGROUND.
THOUGH THE YEARS -- THROUGH THE YEARS MY KIDS LEARNED WITH
THE REPEATED --
5:48:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU PAUSE ONE MOMENT?
MR. SHELBY.
5:48:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SHE'S NOT THE APPLICANT.
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT?
5:48:21PM >> NO, THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER.
5:48:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE NOT A PARTY.
SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
RESET YOUR TIME FROM THE BEGINNING.
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE AND SEVEN MINUTES.
5:48:31PM >> MITZI CARLIN, I AM THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER OF THIS
PROPERTY.
JOURNALISM BACKGROUND, THROUGH THE YEARS KIDS LEARNED WITH A
REPEATED SWIPE OF RED PEN THAT I LIKE A GOOD EDIT AND FACT

CHECKING.
THEY HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES WORDS MATTER.
IN THE FORMAL WRITTEN LANGUAGE THE USE OF WORDS IN PROPER
CONTEXT MATTER EVEN MORE.
SO IMAGINE WITH ME A SMALL TOWN PURCHASES LAND FOR A SCHOOL
AND THE MAP PEOPLE LABEL THAT AREA AS SCHOOL SITE.
25 YEARS LATER, GROWTH HASN'T BEEN EXPECTED AND NO SCHOOL
HAS EVER BEEN BUILT, SO THE TOWN CHANGES COURSE.
THE SITE WAS NOT ACTUALLY A SCHOOL NO MATTER WHAT THE MAP
SHOWED FOR 25 YEARS.
WORDS IN PROPER CONTEXT MATTER.
FOR ONLY ERECTED WALLS WITH STUDENTS CAN BRING FORTH THE
ACTUALITY OF SCHOOL.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN DIDN'T BUY ITSELF TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT
THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THE LAND OR WHAT THE TOWN COULD
USE OF THAT LAND GOING FORWARD.
THE INTENDED PLAN WAS UNFULFILLED, SO THE FUTURE PLAN CAN
CHANGE.
SO LET'S GO TO REAL TIME.
A PRIVATE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION PURCHASED LAND FOR EXPANSION
AND THE MAP PEOPLE LABELED THAT AREA AS CEMETERY.
BUT 50 YEARS LATER, DEMAND HASN'T BEEN AS EXPECTED AND NO
CASKETS HAVE EVER BEEN BURIED, SO THE ASSOCIATION CHANGES
COURSE.
THE SITE WAS NOT ACTUALLY A CEMETERY NO MATTER WHAT THE MAP

SHOWED FOR 50 YEARS.
WORDS IN PROPER CONTEXT MATTER FOR ONLY THE LAYING OF THE
DEAD TO REST CAN BRING FORTH THE ACTUALITY OF CEMETERY.
AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL PLAN DIDN'T BY ITSELF TELL US ANYTHING
ABOUT THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THE LAND OR WHAT THE
ASSOCIATION COULD USE OF THAT LAND GOING FORWARD.
THE INTENDED PLAN WAS UNFULFILLED, SO THE FUTURE PLAN CAN
CHANGE.
NOW, OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
WE NEED ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THIS STORY BECAUSE THERE ARE WAY
MORE THAN 50 YEARS TO CONSIDER AND IT'S RIGHT TO ASK FOR
MORE CONTEXT THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THE ASSOCIATION
TOOK OWNERSHIP.
TAMPA HAS A SORDID HISTORY IN NEARBY GROUNDS AND IN NEED OF
A WAY TO RECTIFY AND RECONCILE SPECULATION ANECDOTAL
ACCOUNTS AND MAP DISCREPANCIES.
SO, LIKE A LONG-AWAITED SUPER HERO, EMERGING FROM THE
PARALYZED CLOUD OF UNCERTAINTY, TAMPA'S OWN SCIENCE
SUPERHEROES ANSWERED THE CALL.
DR. KIMMERLE IS THE TRUSTED EXPERT AND HER TEAM HAS
INSTRUMENTAL IN IDENTIFYING AND DOCUMENTING PROOF OF HUMAN
REMAINS.
THEY TOOK CHARGE TO FULLY INVESTIGATE AND ANALYZE THE SITE
TO FULLY INVESTIGATE.
AS THE SELLER, THE APPLICANT GAVE PERMISSION TO ACCESS THE

ENTIRE PROPERTY.
AND AS THE PROSPECTIVE BUYERS MY HUSBAND AND I GAVE THE
FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO POWER UP AND FLY HIGH.
FOR THEM TO GO AND DO WHAT THEY DO BEST.
WE HAVE A WRITTEN CONTRACT STATING THIS ABSOLUTE PERMISSION
WITH THE CLEAR EXPECTATION THAT THE TEAM WAS TO DO
EVERYTHING POSSIBLE ABOVE AND BELOW THE SURFACE AS MUCH AS
THEY DEEMED NECESSARY.
THEY WERE HIRED TO DELIVER FOR ALL OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES
A THOROUGH AND UNBIASED DETERMINATION.
AND FROM A 51 PAGE REPORT THAT DR. KIMMERLE HERSELF SAYS CAN
STAND ON ITS OWN, AND AS THE LATE PAUL HARVEY WOULD SAY, NOW
WE HAVE THE REST OF THE STORY.
WE NOW HAVE WORDS IN PROPER CONTEXT.
THIS PARCEL IS CLEAN.
SO ANY REFERENCE TO IT AS CEMETERY IS NOT ACCURATE.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF HUMAN REMAINS.
THE BURIAL IN POTTERS FIELD MAP COMMONLY REFERENCED IS THE
WRONG ONE.
MUCH OF THE LAND IS HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED FLOOD ZONE AND
THERE IS A WATER TABLE JUST THREE FOOT DOWN.
NOW PEOPLE BACK IN THE 1900s KNEW YOU CAN'T BURY ANYBODY
IN A FLOOD ZONE.
THE ONLY THING OF SIGNIFICANCE BURIED IN THAT DIRT IS A
DRAINAGE PIPE.

THE EXPERTS, THE EXPERTS ARE SCIENCE SUPERHEROES HAVE
DEFEATED THE VILLAIN CALLED UNCERTAINTY.
GREAT CLOUDS ALONG NORTH BOULEVARD ARE GONE.
THE SUN CAN SHINE FORTH AND WE CAN ALL TAKE A BIG SIGH OF
RELIEF BECAUSE THESE WORDS MATTER, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CASE,
WHEN ELEVATED WITH REALLY GOOD SCIENCE, THE USE OF WORDS IN
PROPER CONTEXT MATTER EVEN MORE.
SO ADDING TO THAT NEXT CHAPTER OF OUR STORY, I RETURN.
THE INTENDED PLAN OF THE LAND WAS UNFULFILLED AND NOW THE
DOUBT OF PRACTICAL USE HAS BEEN LIFTED.
SO THE FUTURE PLAN OF THIS LAND CAN CHANGE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
SO FROM THE FIRST TIME MY HUSBAND AND I WALKED ON THIS
PROPERTY, I SAID TO HIM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE FIVE WINS THAT
ARE AT HAND.
FIVE WINS LINING UP.
AND THIS IS HOW I SEE THE WINS LINING UP HERE TODAY.
THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY WON AS IT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED.
THIS LAND WILL SELL.
IT'S POSITIONED TO SELL.
IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE DETERMINATION IS WHAT WILL GET BUILT ON IT?
SO THE NUMBER ONE WINNER HERE GOES TO THE APPLICANT.
CONGRATULATIONS, APPLICANT.

NUMBER WORKS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ALREADY WON TWOFOLD.
THE RIGHT PROCESS HAS PROVIDED MUCH-NEEDED ANSWERS.
NOW WITH THE EVENTUAL SALE OF THIS PARCEL, THE CITY WILL BE
RELEASED FROM THE PROSPECT OF BURDENING TAXPAYERS WITH THE
COST OF ACQUIRING SHOWMEN'S REST, WHICH IS AN ACTUAL
CEMETERY.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO FUND TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN
CEMETERY IN THE NAME OF PRESERVATION, WHICH IS ALSO A COMMON
THEME FOR TONIGHT.
AND THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND TO ITS OWN MUNICIPAL
GROUNDS THAT ARE IN DISREPAIR.
SO WE'VE GOT A POSITIVE NOTE IN HISTORY AND AVOIDING
TAXPAYER BURDEN.
WIN NUMBER TWO GOES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND TO USE THE WORDS OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE A FEW
MINUTES AGO, IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND TALKS LIKE A DUCK,
IT'S A DUCK.
OUR NUMBER THREE WINNER TONIGHT IS THE CEMETERY SOCIETY,
BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T WALK LIKE A DUCK AND IT
DOESN'T TALK LIKE A DUCK.
THESE PEOPLE ARE SUCH GREAT ADVOCATES AND THEIR COMMITMENT
TO PRESERVATION AND THEIR TENACITY FOR DECISIVE ACTION HAVE
FACILITATED THE STUDY THAT HAS SOLVED ONE OF TAMPA'S
HISTORIC LAND MYSTERIES.
THE SOCIETY DEMANDED ANSWERS THAT ONLY PROFESSIONALS LIKE

DR. KIMMERLE AND HER EXPERT TEAM CAN ADEQUATELY ANSWER.
DR. KIMMERLE'S REPORT IS NOT OPINION.
IT'S SCIENCE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRESERVATION EFFORT IN TAMPA THAT STILL
NEEDS TO HAPPEN, BUT FOR NOW, THE SOCIETY CAN BREATHE EASY.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT TWO MORE WINS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
THE FIRST WIN IS TAMPA HEIGHTS.
I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT
A CONDO COMPLEX AND THEY DON'T WANT A DAY CARE.
SO WHEN THAT LAND SELLS, WHAT WILL IT BE FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS?
OUR ONE HOME.
SOLUTION IS THE BEST FIT FOR THE VIBE OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE FINAL WINNERS IS MY FAMILY.
WE WANT TO BUILD A HOME FOR OUR FAMILY AND WE THINK WE'RE
THE BEST SOLUTION TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE AREA.
THANK YOU.
5:55:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
5:55:38PM >> BRIAN CAPPER.
I CAME TO SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY, CARLIN
FAMILY.
I'VE CALLED TAMPA HOME SINCE 2009.
I SYMPATHIZE AND EMPATHIZE WITH EVERYBODY WHO HAS AN
EMOTIONAL TIE TO THE PROPERTY.

I'VE SEEN OAK TREES COME DOWN, GREENSPACE DISAPPEAR OVER THE
PAST YEARS AND I'VE HATED EVERY MINUTE OF IT.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS CHANGE HAPPENS.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN REALLY DO ABOUT IT.
I SERVED WITH COLONEL CARLIN AT U.S. CENTCOM AND SERVE THE
HOMELESS ON SUNDAY.
SOMETHING HE DOES.
HE IS A MENTOR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY FAMILY AS WELL.
THIS LAND IS GOING TO BE SOLD.
IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
IF YOU COULD CHOOSE ANYBODY TO DEVELOP THAT LAND, IT WOULD
BE CURTIS CARLIN AND HIS FAMILY BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE CARE
OF IT, THEY WILL OVERSEE IT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS
NO INTEREST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY.
SO I'LL KEEP MY POINTS VERY SHORT.
JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THANK YOU.
5:56:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR BREVITY.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
5:56:43PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS DAN KIGER.
I, TOO, AM GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF KNOWING THE CARLINS.
I'M IN THE BUSINESS OF TRUTH.
TRUTH AND CLARITY.

IT'S TRUE THAT TAMPA HAS HAD A SKETCHY HISTORY WHEN IT COMES
TO LAND DEVELOPMENT AND DISREGARDING POTENTIAL HUMAN
REMAINS.
IT'S TRUE THAT A STUDY HAD TO BE DONE FOR THIS PARCEL OF
LAND.
IT'S TRUE THAT STUDY WAS DONE.
IT'S TRUE THAT STUDY FOUND THERE WERE NO HUMAN REMAINS.
IT'S TRUE THAT I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE PEOPLE HERE TALK ABOUT
RESPECTING PROPERTY RIGHTS.
IT'S TRUE THIS LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED.
I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANYBODY CONSIDER THE IMPACT, THE REAL
IMPACT OF THE CITY, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TRAFFIC THAT
WILL COME WITH A SCHOOL, A GOVERNMENT BUILDING, WHAT HAVE
YOU, VERSUS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THAT'S REAL.
THAT'S REAL IMPACT.
I SPOKE WITH A SIGNIFICANT MEMBER OF THE SHOWMEN'S REST.
THEY WANT A FAMILY RESIDENT THERE.
THEY DO.
ALL OF THESE THINGS MATTER.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU.
5:57:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
THE DEVICE, IF YOU PUT IT FACE UP, IT WILL TURN ON

AUTOMATICALLY.
AND THEN A WHEEL ON THE TOP OF THE DEVICE THAT YOU CAN ZOOM
IN AND ZOOM OUT.
THREE MINUTES.
5:58:16PM >> NICHOLAS CARLIN.
HERE ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY.
I'M THE YOUNGEST OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS.
I'M A LITTLE BIT DISCONNECTED ESPECIALLY NEWLYWED SO I DON'T
ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
OBVIOUSLY I KNEW MY PARENTS WERE LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE.
I HEAR THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD IT NEAR A CEMETERY AND THAT
THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT, SO THEY DO A STUDY TO FIND
OUT IF THERE WERE ANY BODIES BURIED THERE.
THE STUDY SHOWS THERE WERE NO BODIES EVER BURIED THERE AND
CONCLUSIVE.
OKAY, GREAT.
I'M CONFUSED.
STILL HEARING THERE IS RESISTANCE.
DON'T WANT IT TO BE BUILT AND DISRUPTS THE SERENITY, THAT
IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE GROUNDS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I WENT AND VISITED IT MYSELF.
I SAW A VIDEO WHERE THERE WERE CLAIMS BEING MADE ABOUT THIS,
WHERE THERE WAS A DISRUPTION AND DISRESPECT TO THE PROPERTY.
SO I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT MYSELF.
WHAT I SAW, THIS IS AN ANGLE LOOKING AT WHERE THE HOUSE

WOULD BE BUILT FROM THE CEMETERY, THE ONE IN PARTICULAR
THAT'S IN THE VIDEO WHERE CERTAIN CLAIMS WERE BEING MADE.
WHAT I SEE IS A WALL OF MATURE TREES THAT BLOCK OUT PRETTY
MUCH ANYTHING YOU WOULD SEE.
YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A PERSON STANDING RIGHT THERE.
THE HOUSE WOULD BE BUILT BEHIND THE TREES.
COMPLETE WALL.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR MAYBE A
MASSIVE GOVERNMENT BUILDING OR PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT, BUT MOST LIKELY JUST NOT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
I LOOK UP FROM THERE, LOOK TO MY RIGHT, WHAT DO I SEE?
I SEE A BASEBALL STADIUM THAT'S BUILT.
THAT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
OKAY, THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THAT WOULD DISRUPT THE
SERENITY AND BE A LITTLE MORE DISRESPECTFUL THINKING OF
GAMES GOING ON, CLANK, CLANK, CLANK, PEOPLE TRYING TO BE
THERE IN PEACE OR BE WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.
THAT WAS CONFUSING BECAUSE THAT SEEMED TO BE MORE
DISRESPECTFUL OR DISRUPT.
THE RADIANT CHURCH IS THERE.
THEY CAN GET LOUD AND GET ROWDY.
I'M SURE THERE IS A LOT OF DISRUPTION THERE AS WELL.
AS WELL AS JUST THE SURROUNDING AREA.
YOU CAN LOOK AT MORE AND MORE PHOTOS.
THE BASEBALL STADIUM, THE SURROUNDING HOUSES, UPS COMING BY.

YOU CAN IMAGINE ALL THESE THINGS, LIKE THEY MENTIONED, THE
SURROUNDING AREA HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AND THIS LAND IS GOING
TO BE DEVELOPED REGARDLESS.
AS SOMEONE WHO, OF COURSE, MY FAMILY IS LOOKING TO LIVE
HERE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO IS A LITTLE BIT DISCONNECTED AND
MORE JUST CONFUSED ABOUT EVERYTHING.
WHEN I GO AND LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN
COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME WOULD
SOMEHOW DISRUPT OR BE DISRESPECTFUL TO THE GROUNDS
THEMSELVES, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THERE'S
ALREADY BEEN A COMPLETELY CONCLUSIVE REPORT SHOWING THAT
WHERE THE PROPERTY WOULD BE BUILT, THERE WERE NO BODIES EVER
BURIED THERE.
I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW THOSE DOTS ARE BEING CONNECTED.
AS SOMEONE WHO WENT AND WITNESSED THE GROUNDS MYSELF.
LAST THING I'LL MENTION, FROM THE HOUSE PROPERTY ITSELF
LOOKING INTO THE CEMETERY, YOU LITERALLY CAN SEE NOTHING.
IT'S NOT LIKE THERE IS AN INVASION THERE.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
6:01:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DON'T FORGET YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS.
I'LL SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME.
IF YOU'RE SPEAKING AND EVEN WHISPERING, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IT'S EXTREMELY DISTRACTING.

PLEASE, IF YOU'RE DOING THAT AND I CATCH IT AGAIN, I'LL RULE
YOU OUT OF ORDER AND ASK YOU TO LEAVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
OKAY?
EVERYBODY DESERVES THEIR TIME TO BE HEARD.
THE TIME TO BE HEARD -- AILEEN, COME ON.
STOP TALKING BACK THERE.
THE TIME TO BE HEARD IS WHEN YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM AND YOU
DESERVE 100% OF OUR ATTENTION WHEN YOU'RE AT THE PODIUM.
PLEASE, IF YOU ARE NOT AT THE PODIUM, ZIP IT.
IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK, PLEASE EXIT AND GO OUTSIDE.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
6:02:07PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M JEFF BRADDOCK, TAMPA NATIVE AND RETURNING RAISING MY
FAMILY IN THIS INCREDIBLE CITY.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE CARLIN FAMILY AND
TO THE CHARACTER THEY HAVE SHOWN THIS COMMUNITY YEAR AFTER
YEAR.
THE CARLINs ARE PEOPLE OF DOING IT.
THEY HOLD HIGH STANDARDS.
THEY DO THE RIGHT THING.
THEIR YES MEANS YES, AND THEIR HAND SHAKE MEANS SOMETHING.
THE LEVEL OF CARE AND PERSISTENT SEARCH FOR TRUTH IN THE
PROCESS IS CHARACTERISTIC OF EVERY MEMBER OF THIS FAMILY.
THEY ARE A FAMILY OF FAITH.

THEIR FAITH IS NOT JUST SPOKEN, IT'S LIVED OUT TO THE
SERVICE OF OTHERS.
THEY LEAD ORGANIZATIONS THAT FEED THE POOR AND HOMELESS OF
THE CITY MAKING SURE OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS ARE SEEN,
FED, AND TREATED WITH DIGNITY.
CURTIS IS A RETIRED MARINE COLONEL.
THE FAMILY CONTINUES TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS AND CONTRIBUTE
TIME AND FOCUS ON CURRENT AND TRANSITIONING VETERANS AND
THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THEY ARE ACTIVE IN MINISTRY TO THE YOUTH OF TAMPA, INVESTING
IN YOUNG PEOPLE AT THOSE INCREDIBLE MOMENTS WHERE THEIR
GUIDANCE MATTERS THE MOST.
NONE OF THIS IS DONE FOR ANY RECOGNITION.
THEY SHOW UP EARLY.
THEY STAY LATE.
THEY EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN.
THEIR EXAMPLE HAS ENCOURAGED COUNTLESS MEN IN THE SOUTH
TAMPA COMMUNITY TO STEP UP, GIVE THEIR TIME AND CONTRIBUTE
MEANINGFULLY.
I WILL SAY I'M HERE BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THOSE MEN.
I AM PERSONALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE EXAMPLE THE CARLINS HAVE
SET AND I AM A BETTER NEIGHBOR AND BETTER MAN FOR HAVING
FOLLOWED IT.
THE CARLINS HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL STEWARDS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE EQUALLY FAITHFUL STEWARDS OF THE PROPERTY.

TREAT THE PROPERTY WITH CARE, IMPROVE IT FROM THE CURRENT
POSITION AND BUILD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
IT IS MY PRIVILEGE STANDING HERE TO AFFIRM WITHOUT
RESERVATION THE CHARACTER OF THIS FAMILY AND TO ADVOCATE FOR
THE APPROVAL OF THEIR PETITION.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
6:04:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME AND IT WILL START.
6:04:24PM >> JOHN CARLIN.
I BELIEVE I'M THE LAST CARLIN TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE ANY OF THE REST OF US.
I ACTUALLY SPOKE AT THE HEARING LAST WEEK IN FRONT OF THE
CITY COMMISSION, PLANNING COMMISSION.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PREPARED REMARKS THEN.
I JUST GOT UP AND SPOKE SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING TONIGHT.
WHAT I DID SHARE LAST WEEK WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT DEFINES MY FAMILY, AS MY DAD MENTIONED, IS OUR
SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY.
I DON'T USE THAT AS A BARGAINING CHIP FOR WHY YOU SHOULD SAY
YES OR NO ON THIS.
IT'S TO BRING UP THE POINT THAT FOR ALL OF OUR LIVES WE
NEVER HAD A HOME.
TRAVELED EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS.
NEVER HAD A PLACE THAT WAS OURS.

SINCE I WAS A KID, MY PARENTS TALKED ABOUT THAT FOREVER HOME
THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT SOME POINT.
DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE.
WE KNEW IT WOULD BE IN TAMPA BECAUSE MY PARENTS ARE BOTH
BORN AND RAISED HERE.
ALWAYS CALLED THE TAMPA AREA HOME WITH BOTH OUR
GRANDPARENTS, PATERNAL AND MATERNAL LIVING IN BRANDON.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN THIS AREA.
TAMPA IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IS SACRED AND WHAT IS HOLY, OBVIOUSLY
WE'RE A FAMILY OF IMMENSE FAITH.
WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND WE HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR THE DEAD.
IF THERE WAS ANY INCLINATION THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING
MORALLY OR ETHICALLY WRONG WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF THAT
SOMETHING WOULD BE BUILT ON IT, THIS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING
BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF MAN MY FATHER IS.
THAT'S THE KIND OF WOMAN MY MOTHER IS.
THEY TOOK THE STEPS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WOULD
NOT OCCUR.
I CAN RELATE TO MY BROTHER IN THE SENSE THAT HONESTLY I'VE
BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THIS.
I KNOW MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN PURSUING THE PROPERTY.
I HEAR THE UPDATES HERE AND THERE.
YOU SHOULD SEE THE BINDER THAT MY FATHER DEVELOPED FOR THIS

PRESENTATION.
I HAVE NOT READ IT, TRUTHFULLY.
FROM WHAT I KNOW TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE STRONG
OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES AS TO WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THE
PROPERTY.
BUT I'M A MAN OF TRUTH.
I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO PURSUE THE TRUTH.
THE DECISION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU OBVIOUSLY IS NOT
EASY BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE
REALLY UPSET AND SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE REALLY
HAPPY.
WHAT I BELIEVE THE DECISION BEFORE YOU IS, IS WHAT IS THE
CITY OF TAMPA SAID?
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE CITY HAS SAID THIS PROPOSED
LAND USE CHANGE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALL THE STUDIES HAD BEEN DONE TO SHOW
THAT THERE ARE NO BODIES THERE.
AND REALLY, AS MY MOM MENTIONED, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE
FIVE WINNERS IN THIS IS SPECIAL.
THE BIGGEST WINNER IN MY OPINION IS THE CEMETERY THAT HAS
BEEN AROUND FOR GENERATIONS WILL BE UNDERWATER IF THIS
DOESN'T HAPPEN.
REALLY, THE DECISION BEFORE YOU IS WHAT IS THE BEST NEXT
STEP FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY?
IT IS PRIVATE AND THEY DO DESERVE THE RIGHT TO SELL IT.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE BEST MOVING FORWARD.
6:07:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
GET QUEUED UP.
6:07:36PM >> HI.
BRETT RUSSELL, 3420 OHIO AVENUE.
I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CARLINS.
I AM THEIR BUILDER.
WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING THIS LOT SINCE THEY'VE BEEN UNDER
CONTRACT FOR IT.
BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WAS A CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY, WHAT'S
GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, HOW MUCH.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE THAT WOULD ALLOW
SOMETHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
SO CHANGING IT TO RS 3 WHICH IS NEEDED OBVIOUSLY AND HAVING
ONE SMALL HOME IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER MORE THAN A HUNDRED
FOOT OFF OF THE STREET, PROBABLY BE THE MOST UNINVASIVE
THING THERE.
JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS WHAT
WE HAVE, THIS WOULD BE THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY HERE,
SOUTHERN END.
THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED HOME IS GOING, THE DRIVEWAY
COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH SIDE.

6:08:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS A WHEEL ON THE TOP OF THE DEVICE.
6:08:50PM >> NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.
SOUTH END.
THE HOME IS POSITIONED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER WITH A
DRIVEWAY ON THE SOUTH COMING FROM THE SOUTH GATE THAT IS
CURRENTLY THERE.
LIKE I SAID, VERY -- AMAZING FAMILY.
VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THEIR FAITH.
THEY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS LAND.
THEY DON'T WANT TO DISTURB ANYTHING.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH ALL OF THE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME BACK AND
ALL OF THE TESTING THAT HAS BEEN DONE, IT'S PRETTY
CONCLUSIVE THAT IT SHOWS THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
I FEEL LIKE THIS FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS AND
ALL OF THE PROPER PROCESSES TO GET TO THIS POINT.
LIKE JOHN JUST STATED, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A HARD DECISION
IN FRONT OF YOURSELVES, BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT
DECISION TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THIS HOUSE.
HOW WE BUILD, WE BUILD A QUALITY, LONG-STANDING HOME.
THE CARLINS WANT THIS TO BE THEIR FOREVER HOME.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BUILD TO SUIT THAT.
WITH THE GPR, I'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH IT WITH ANOTHER
CLIENT, JUST RECENTLY ON A LOT IN PORT TAMPA, WE HAD A LAND
FILL THAT WE FOUND.
THAT GPR SHOWED A LOT MORE UNDER THE GROUND.

IT WAS A MAJOR EXCAVATION THAT WE DID.
THE FINDINGS ON THIS LOT FROM THE GPR WERE NOT NEAR AS MUCH.
PROPER EXCAVATION WAS DONE AND OBVIOUSLY HAS SHOWN THAT
NOTHING WAS FOUND.
AGAIN, I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CARLINS.
THEY ARE GREAT FOLKS.
MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE THEIR BUILDER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
6:10:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:10:57PM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
I WANT TO OPEN BY PUTTING IT ON PUBLIC RECORD THAT THE
CARLINS SON BLOCKED MY PATH WHEN I TRIED TO WALK BACK.
I ALSO WANT IT ON RECORD THAT THE PICTURE THAT THE OTHER
CARLIN BROTHER SHOWED WAS OF MY GREAT, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR INTEGRITY.
WAS THAT TO RATTLE MY CAGE?
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WANT IT ON RECORD THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE.
NOW, I CAN TALK ALL DAY LONG ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL PART OF
THIS, BECAUSE MY FAMILY AS A FIFTH GENERATION, OH, BY THE
WAY, I HAVE 29 YEARS AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, AS IF THAT

MATTERED.
IT DOESN'T.
I COULD TALK ALL DAY LONG ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M NOT.
WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE SURVEY THAT THEY KEEP
MISREPRESENTING BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT, COUNCIL, I DON'T STOP THERE BECAUSE YOU ALL
KNOW ME.
WHEN I COME TO THE TABLE, I COME WITH RECEIPTS.
WE DIDN'T STOP AT ERIN KIMMERLE'S REPORT.
I TOOK THAT REPORT AND I SENT IT TO RACHEL KANGAS, THE
DIRECTOR OF WEST CENTRAL AND CENTRAL REGION FOR THE FLORIDA
PUBLIC ARCHAEOLOGY NETWORK.
I SENT IT TO HER.
I SAID I NEED A STATEMENT.
PLEASE EVALUATE THIS FOR ME.
I'M NOT THE EXPERT.
SHE IS.
SO IS DR. KIMMERLE.
LET ME READ THE PARAGRAPH TO YOU.
YOU RECEIVED IT IN THE E-MAIL THIS AFTERNOON.
IT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN.
I REVIEWED THE MOST RECENT GPR REPORT SUBMITTED BY DR.
KIMMERLE AND THE REPORT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THEY CANNOT --
ALL CAPS -- CANNOT RULE OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF BURIALS ON

THE LAND.
THEY CAN'T RULE OUT BURIALS IN THE AREAS THEY SURVEYED, AND
THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT RULE THEM OUT IN AREAS OF THE PLOT
THEY DID NOT SURVEY.
THIS REPORT DOES NOT SAY THERE ARE NO BURIALS ON THE PLOT.
NOW YOU HAVE TWO EXPERTS THAT HAVE TOLD YOU THERE IS NO WAY
THEY CAN CLEAR THAT PARCEL.
THOSE ARE THE FACTS.
BUT WAIT, I'VE GOT MORE.
YOUR CITY DEPARTMENTS SAID NO.
CITY PLANNING JUNE 30, 2026, CONCLUDED THAT P/SP BETTER
ACCOMMODATES THE CITY'S MORE CONSERVATIVE THOUGHTFUL
APPROACH AND LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION JUNE 30 FORMALLY
OBJECTED TO CHANGING THE DESIGNATION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE YOU NEED.
THE ANSWER IS NO.
IT ENDS TONIGHT.
PUT IT TO REST.
STICK A FORK IN IT.
THE GOOSE IS COOKED.
NO.
AND DON'T LET IT EVER COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AGAIN.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT.
PLEASE VOTE NO.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

6:14:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
6:14:05PM >> YES, I DO.
I'M SORRY.
MY NAME IS JOHN PURJA.
I AM SHOWMEN'S REST.
THE REASON WE'RE SELLING THIS PROPERTY.
6:14:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE THE --
6:14:19PM >> OWNER.
6:14:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, SO IT
WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.
6:14:29PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
6:14:33PM >> TO BE CLEAR, COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT IS DONE WITH THE
PRESENTATION.
HE IS PART OF OUR TEAM.
IF YOU CARE TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY, I CAN PRESENT IT.
IF NOT WE CAN SIT DOWN QUICKLY.
6:14:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE SOME ONLINE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
WE'VE GOT -- SHEILA WEISS EVANS, ARE YOU ONLINE?
UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
SHEILA.
UNMUTE YOURSELF, PLEASE.
WE SHOW YOU MUTED.
SHEILA GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU AFTER
I GO TO THE NEXT TWO.
MELANIE CHARLESTON.

I BELIEVE MAYBE CARLIN CHARLESTON.
ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK TOGETHER?
ARE YOU GUYS ONLINE?
MR. CHARLESTON.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:15:41PM >> I'M ONLY SEEING CAPTIONS.
I CAN'T HEAR.
CAN I ONLY READ THE CAPTIONS.
6:15:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IF YOU CAN SEE THAT I'M TALKING TO.
6:15:49PM >> I'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.
I HAVE MY THREE MINUTES.
6:15:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME PLEASE.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
6:15:59PM >> OKAY.
WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU COULD HEAR ME.
I'LL GO.
HELLO, I'M CARLIN CHARLESTON.
I'M HERE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.
I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE CARLINS.
I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF BECAUSE I THINK -- I DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TECHNICAL TO OFFER.
I'M A TEXAS RESIDENT.
I LOVE GOVERNOR DESANTIS BECAUSE HE CALLS TRUTH, TRUTH.
AS A TEXAN WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE WHEN TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING WALKS LIKE A
DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, IT IS A DUCK,
UNTIL WE TEST IT AND FIND OUT, WELL, IT IS A CHICKEN AND
IT'S NOT A DUCK.
THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
FOR SENSIBLE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE A REAL DECISION TO MAKE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ONE MADE ON THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION I
THINK FOR CITY COUNCIL PERSONNEL.
IT'S GOING TO BE ONE THAT'S MADE BASED ON INTEGRITY AND
CHARACTER.
AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN UP AND TRIED TO MAKE YOU
EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT.
SO I'M JUST LEAVING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE BEST
JUDGMENT DECISION BASED ON THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER ISSUE
BECAUSE THE CARLINS HAVE BEEN THERE.
I SPEND TIME WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS THERE.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY ARE DOING THIS JUST FOR THEIR INTEREST.
THEY ARE DOING IT FOR THE INTEREST OF TAMPA.
I SPENT TIME WORKING ON THE HOMELESS PROJECT WITH THEM.
AND SO THINK ABOUT YOUR DECISION WHEN YOU MAKE IT, ARE YOU
TRYING TO REALLY MAKE A DECISION ON THE BASIS OF WHAT'S BEST
FOR TAMPA?
BECAUSE THEY DO THAT EVERY DAY.
AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT I THINK WITH THEM.
YOU WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SUPPORT TAMPA.

AND THAT'S WHO THE CARLINS ARE.
THANK YOU.
6:17:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. CHARLES.
SHEILA WEISS EVANS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
SHEILA?
GOING ONCE ... GOING TWICE ... HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, SHEILA.
MELANIE CHARLESTON, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE -- SHOW HER
ONLINE NOW?
NO.
OKAY.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE A REBUTTAL?
6:18:06PM >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, WILLIAM MALLOY AGAIN.
MR. CARLIN IS GOING TO SPEAK.
I KNOW THAT SINCE ISABEL AND I PRESENTED WE HAD A LOT OF
EMOTION, A LOT OF STORIES, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.
PLEASE DON'T LOSE SITE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A PLANNING
EXERCISE.
WE HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORT AND THE PLANNING
COMMISSION'S VOTE ON THAT.
I WANT TO REITERATE THAT.
THANK YOU.
6:18:28PM >> THANK YOU.

6:18:35PM >> CURTIS CARLIN.
DIFFICULT PLACE TO BE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THERE IS A LOT OF EMOTION OUT THERE.
I WAS TOLD BEFORE I CAME INTO THIS EVENT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEIR MINDS ARE MADE UP.
I WILL NOT BELIEVE THAT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE SYSTEM.
I BELIEVE IN WHAT IS TRUSTED TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS
ROOM.
I WANT TO START, THERE IS NO DISRESPECT TO AILEEN.
I TRULY DO, TRULY DO APPLAUD HER FOR HER PASSION IN WHAT
SHE'S TRYING TO DO OUT THERE, BECAUSE I WALKED WOODLAWN
CEMETERY MULTIPLE TIMES.
I HAD PICTURES.
I'M NOT GOING TO SHOW THEM.
BUT I THINK EACH OF YOU KNOW THE QUALITY OF THE GRAVES OUT
THERE AND HOW BAD THEY LOOK.
IT'S IN INCREDIBLE DISARRAY.
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, THE POINTS I'M MAKING, THERE'S NOTHING
PERSONAL HERE.
WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT I BELIEVE IS TRULY THE BEST YES IN
A VERY TOUGH SITUATION.
I WOULD ASK YOU, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO A YES TO SUPPORT THE
PRESERVATION OF A HISTORICAL CEMETERY, THE SHOWMEN'S, I
WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE RIGHT YES IS, BECAUSE THE ONLY
ONE I'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT AND I'M A WAR FIGHTER AND I

MAPPED IT ALL OUT, I DON'T SEE ONE THAT GETS US TO YES
BETTER THAN WHAT THIS COURSE OF ACTION DOES.
SO WITH THAT, THEY TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE 13-PAGE CONTRACT.
I WAS SO CLEAR TO DR. KIMMERLE.
OF COURSE, SHE IS A SCIENTIST.
YOU CAN'T PROVE A NEGATIVE.
YOU CAN'T.
BUT I TOLD HER, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY TAKE THE ENTIRE TOP LAYER
OF THAT GROUND OFF.
DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO SO THAT WE KNOW THE ANSWER, NOT
PROVE WHAT I DESIRE.
I WANT YOU, WITH YOUR REPUTATION, EXPLAIN WHAT IS THERE,
WHICH SHE SHOWED WAS NOT ANY REMAINS OR ANY TYPE OF BURIALS.
SHE BROUGHT IN HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
SHE DIDN'T NEED IT, BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY AND HER
INFORMATION WAS GOOD.
I SAID, OKAY, WELL, LET'S GO BACK AND LET'S LOOK, IN 2022,
WHAT WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF YOU WHO ARE SITTING UP
HERE HAD?
THAT WASN'T A NO FOREVER.
THAT WAS A NO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO.
YOU CAN SEE THE NOES THERE ON THE LEFT, WHAT THE ISSUES WERE
AND HOW WE'VE COME BACK AND ACTUALLY ANSWERED THOSE

QUESTIONS.
YOU ASKED VERY CLEARLY ABOUT THE STANDARDS THE CEMETERY
SOCIETY ASKED US TO MEET.
QUOTE, HOW CAN WE BE SURE THERE ARE NOT BODIES THERE, THAT
WAS IN 2022.
IF WE'RE NOT RIGHT.
IF THERE ARE NO HUMAN REMAINS, THEN DO THE GPR AND PROVE US
WRONG.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATES AND YOU FIND OUT WHEN WE DID THE
GPR AND SIGNED THE CONTRACT, I SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO ON EMOTION.
WE'LL PROVE WHETHER IT IS OR ISN'T.
THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
THE REPORT CAME BACK THE DAY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE
DAY BEFORE, ON SUNDAY EVENING.
WE HAVE THE REPORT NOW.
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED.
COMPREHENSIVE GPR, INDEPENDENT ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDIES,
QUALIFIED REVIEWS.
SAFEGUARDS WRITTEN.
OH, BY THE WAY, LOOK WHO IT SPECIFICALLY QUOTED BY THOSE WHO
CARE FOR THE CEMETERY BACK IN 2022.
WE NEED SOMEBODY LIKE DR. KIMMERLE AND HER TEAM TO COME AND
DO THIS.
ONCE AGAIN, I ASK, WHERE IS THE PATH TO YES?

WHAT ELSE IS REQUIRED?
WHAT ELSE IS REQUIRED?
WE COMPLETED THE SITE INVESTIGATION NOT ONCE.
THERE'S BEEN THREE NOW.
THREE.
INDEPENDENT REVIEWS, GROUND TRUTHING, WHEREVER THERE WAS
ANOMALY, THEY DUG.
QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS WHO THIS ORGANIZATION AND EVERYONE
RECOGNIZES AS THE LEADS CAME IN UNCHAINED, NOT CONTROLLED IN
ANY WAY, AND THE RESULTS ARE VERY CLEAR.
THEY CAME BACK WITH THE SAME FINDING.
THERE ARE NO REMAINS THAT ARE ANNOTATED OR FOUND IN ANY OF
THE SITES, SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE WANT TO BUILD.
SO THAT'S MY REBUTTAL.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT A PATH TO YES IS FOR NOBODY ELSE,
SHOWMEN'S REST NEEDS TO KNOW THAT.
6:23:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
6:23:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO ASK ONE QUESTION.
IS DR. KIMMERLE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS?
6:23:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS DR. KIMMERLE HERE?
6:23:26PM >> NO, DR. KIMMERLE IS NOT HERE.
DR. KIMMERLE AND TRISTAN WELLS, THE TWO LEAD Ph.D.S DID
NOT HAVE THE ABILITY IN THE SCHEDULE.

HER SPECIFIC REPORTS WERE, THE REPORT STANDS ON ITS OWN.
6:23:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND I HAVE A
SECOND.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
6:23:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD NOT LIKE TO DISCUSS BECAUSE GENERALLY
WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE REASONS.
I'LL TELL MY REASON, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE ARE A LOT OF
THINGS TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT THAT REALLY HAVE NO BASIS IN
THIS PROCEEDING AT ALL.
WHAT THEY DO FOR A COMMUNITY, THAT DOES NOT MATTER.
PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PROPERTY DO NOT MATTER.
WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTY, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
TONIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS THIS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR
THIS SPACE?
SO MY INITIAL QUESTION, WHICH WAS, IS THERE ANY R-3 IN THIS
AREA?
THE ANSWER WAS NO.
WHERE CAN YOU FIND THE MOST R-3?
IN NEW TAMPA, WHICH IS MILES AWAY.
IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO PUT SUBURBAN RURAL ZONING IN AN URBAN
SETTING.

I'M GOING TO DENY FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 26-05 AT 3541 NORTH
BOULEVARD FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO RESIDENTIAL 3.
6:25:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND THAT AND ADD HERE, WHAT I'M
LOOKING AT FOR THE AGENCY REVIEW OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
OBJECTION, DOES THE CITY STAFF FINDS THE LONG-TERM PLANNING
VISION OF THE CITY FAVORS A MORE CONSERVATIVE, THOUGHTFUL
APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT AROUND CEMETERY USES.
WHICH IS BETTER ACCOMMODATED UNDER THE ADOPTED
PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THAT'S RIGHT HERE.
6:25:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HEARD FOLKS TALK ABOUT THIS AS WELL THIS
EVENING.
I GAVE YOU GUYS A KIND OF INDICATION OF THE LEAD OF THE
POINTS TO PROVE TO WIN OVER MY VOTE.
I WAS LISTENING THROUGH THE ENTIRE HEARING.
AGAIN, I GAVE YOU AN INDICATION THAT HAD THIS SQUARE BLOCK
THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE LAND USE A CERTAIN WAY,
CONVINCE ME WHY THERE WOULD BE A REASON WHY OF CHANGING
THAT.
I DID NOT HEAR ANY EVIDENCE OR ANY COMPELLING REASON OR
JUSTIFICATION TO CARVE THIS BLOCK OUT AND CHANGE THAT
DESIGNATION.
FOR THE PUBLIC AND SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION.
THERE WASN'T ANY EVIDENCE.
AGAIN, I GAVE THAT INDICATION RIGHT FROM MY BEGINNING.

THAT WAS THE POINT FOR YOU GUYS TO PROVE AND YOU FAILED TO
DO THAT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:26:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BUILDING ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID, ALL MY
COLLEAGUES APPRECIATE THE SERVICE OF THE COLONEL AND HIS
FAMILY AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE.
THAT PART OF IT IS A VERY COMPELLING STORY.
I THINK WE ALL WOULD WANT TO JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE
SERVICE PROBABLY MAKE THIS DECISION FOR THAT REASON, BUT
ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE LAND USE
IN THE AREA, AND THIS JUST DOESN'T MATCH.
6:26:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL FOR A
VOTE?
6:26:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES.
BOTH HAVE PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
AND BOTH ARE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.
THE ONE FROM RACHEL KANGAS SHE SPEAKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY.
THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT, TO SOME DEGREE.
THEY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER TO SOME ASPECT, AS FAR AS HOW DO
I KNOW WHICH IS WHICH WHEN TWO EXPERTS CAN'T COME TO AN
AGREEMENT.
THAT LEAVES DOUBT IN MY OWN MIND AS TO WHAT DO I DO NOW?
PUNT THE FOOTBALL.
WE'RE NOT PLAYING FOOTBALL.
WE'RE PLAYING LAND USE.

AND IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE THREE.
THERE'S WHERE I THINK THE PROBLEM LIES.
P 3, DISCOVERY OF REBAR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS,
RUBBER COATED END OF SOMETHING.
COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A BURIAL BLOCK MARKER.
I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A FUNERAL HOME WORKING AS A BLOCK MARKER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THAT IS.
I HAVE TO GO ON WHAT THE EXPERTS SAID, BUT THEY CONTRADICT
EACH OTHER.
SO THE EXPERTS HERE CHECK OFF, BUT THEN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK TALKED ABOUT WAS NOT THE LAND AS FAR AS THE BURIAL,
THE ZONING MATTER OF THE THREE.
WHEN YOU DO ZONINGS, YOU DON'T HAVE AN R 1, R 2 AND THEN 34
STORY BUILDING BETWEEN THEM.
IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND DOESN'T MEET THE
REQUIREMENT AND LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION SAID THERE WAS
CONCERN REGARDING THE MODIFICATION -- MIDPOINT AND NORTH
BOULEVARD AND OBJECTED TO IT.
6:28:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST TO CLEAR THINGS UP, IT'S FUNNY,
BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAME DOWN IN THE HEARING WITH ONE
ASSUMPTION AND THAT WAS WHETHER THERE WERE BODIES.
YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ONE PERSON UP HERE DISCUSS THAT.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT LAND USE.
IT WASN'T ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CEMETERY OR NOT A

CEMETERY.
IT'S ABOUT LAND USE AND WHETHER THIS IS APPROPRIATE CHANGE
TO FUTURE LAND USE.
I ALSO THINK THIS IS A CASE IN POINT FOR THE PLANNING
COMMISSION ABOUT WHY WE NEED TO CARVE THESE FUNCTIONS OUT A
LITTLE BIT BETTER.
YOU SAW THE MULTITUDE OF USES UNDER THIS PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC
LAND USE.
IT'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED AND
CHANGED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY --
6:29:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, MR. CHAIR.
6:29:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
6:29:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU, SIR.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY.
I'M FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER.
IT'S FUNNY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED
ABOUT THE TWO -- WHEN I SEE APPEALS TO EMOTION, I DON'T MEAN
THAT IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT.
JUST THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS, ONE,
THE POTENTIAL OF BODIES THERE THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, ON
THE OTHER SIDE, THE PETITIONER'S STELLAR PRESENTATION.
AND JUST STATING AS A PERSON, FROM WHAT I SEE IN THIS
PETITION, YOU CAN TELL THIS IS A PERSON OF INTEGRITY,

DECENCY AND PATRIOTISM WHO MEANS VERY, VERY WELL, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, THE METHODS BY WHICH WE HAVE TO APPLY
SCRUTINY TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION DON'T TAKE THOSE
ISSUES INTO ACCOUNT, UNFORTUNATELY.
AND BY VIRTUE OF THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY, I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE MOTION MADE, BUT JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS WORTHY TO BE NOTED AS MIRANDA AND
CARLSON NOTED.
THANK YOU.
6:30:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
6:30:16PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
6:30:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
6:30:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
6:30:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
6:30:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
6:30:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
6:30:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:30:26PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY.
6:30:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 4.
WE'LL LET THE ROOM CLEAR FOR A MINUTE.
IF YOU GUYS COULD QUIETLY LEAVE.

AS SOON AS IT QUIETS DOWN, WE'LL START WITH THE NEXT
HEARING.
6:31:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU ALL COULD TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS
OUTSIDE.
6:31:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
IN THE BACK -- OH!
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
OUT.
I THINK THERE IS A TIKTOK OF ME SAYING THAT.
GET OUT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
6:31:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
CAREFUL, CAREFUL.
6:31:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU LEAVE FOR NAPLES AT MIDNIGHT, IT WILL
ONLY TAKE YOU THREE HOURS INSTEAD OF FIVE.
6:31:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, GUYS.
GOOD NIGHT, GOOD NIGHT.
ITEM 4.
6:31:59PM >> GOOD EVENING, MEAGHAN McCARTHY, PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
THIS IS TA/CPA 2608, 4707 EAST HENDRY AVENUE.
THIS AMENDMENT IS PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL SCALE AND
APPROXIMATELY .71 ACRES.
THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION TO RESIDENTIAL 35.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING

AREA AS WELL AS THE NORTHEAST COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE -- WITH THE
SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITH SCATTERED PUBLIC,
QUASI-PUBLIC USES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST.
DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS DEVELOPING MULTIFAMILY.
TO THE EAST IS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES
ALONG NORTH 50th STREET.
FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, COMMERCIAL USES EXIST ALONG EAST
HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
STARTING WITH OUR SITE PHOTOS, THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH AT THE
SUBJECT SITE FROM NORTH 48th STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ALONG NORTH 48th STREET WITH THE
SUBJECT SITE BEHIND THE CAMERA.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE EAST OF THE
SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME TO THE NORTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE SUBJECT SITE BEHIND THE CAMERA
AGAIN.
THIS IS LOOKING AT DEVELOPING MULTIFAMILY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST DOWN UNIMPROVED EAST HENRY AVENUE.
THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS SHOWN OUTLINED IN BLACK UNDER THE

CURRENT RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH AND EAST OF THE R
35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION THROUGH ADOPTED TA/CPA 21-02.
FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SITE IS THE R-10 DESIGNATION.
ADDITIONALLY TO THE SOUTH AND EAST ALONG 50th STREET AND
EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE EXISTS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35
DESIGNATION.
TO THE NORTH IS THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE CITY
OF TAMPA AND UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
BEYOND THIS EXISTS THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY RESIDENTIAL 6
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT
SITE UNDER THE PROPOSED R-35 DESIGNATION.
UNDER THE ADOPTED FLU OF RESIDENTIAL 10, THE SITE MAY BE
CONSIDERED FOR SEVEN DWELLING UNITS.
THE SITE COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR 10,836 SQUARE FEET OF
COMMERCIAL USES SUBJECT TO LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
UNDER THE PROPOSED R-35 DESIGNATION, THE SITE MAY BE
CONSIDERED FOR 24 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNITS AND 18,576
SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES ALSO SUBJECT TO LOCATIONAL
CRITERIA.
PROPOSED R-35 DESIGNATION WOULD RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF
RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND COMMERCIAL INTENSITY AND WOULD ALLOW
FOR MULTIFAMILY USES.
ANY NONRESIDENTIAL USES WOULD ALSO BE SUBJECT TO LOCATIONAL

CRITERIA WHICH IS EXPANDED UNDER THE R 35 DESIGNATION.
THE APPLICATION WAS SENT TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES AND THERE
WERE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST.
THE CITY OF TAMPA PLANNING DEPARTMENT NOTED THAT THE
POTENTIAL NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO
SURROUNDING ACCESS ROADS.
STAFF REVIEWED ALL POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
FOUND A NUMBER OF POLICIES RELATED TO THE AMENDMENT,
INCLUDING POLICY RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION AND
THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS RECOMMENDED TO BE FOUND CONSISTENT
WITH THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT POLICIES AS THE SITE WOULD
BE ELIGIBLE FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE PROPOSED
R-35 DESIGNATION AND ADDITIONALLY IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF
EXISTING R-35, CURRENTLY DEVELOPING MULTIFAMILY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE AMENDMENT WAS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE
POLICIES ENCOURAGING ADEQUATE HOUSING SUPPLY AND INFILL
DEVELOPMENT AS THE PROPOSED R-35 HAS THE POTENTIAL TO
INCREASE DENSITY ON A CURRENTLY VACANT PARCEL.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP
AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

6:36:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, JUST FYI, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TAKING A
LITTLE BREAK.
SHE IS BACK LISTENING.
SHE IS LISTENING TO THE HEARING BUT RESTING A LITTLE BIT.
IT SAYS ON OUR AGENDA THIS IS PUBLIC, BUT THIS IS PRIVATELY
INITIATED, CORRECT?
6:36:31PM >>MEAGHAN McCARTHY:
YES, PRIVATELY INITIATED.
THAT WAS CLERICAL ERROR.
6:36:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS AN APPLICANT?
VERY GOOD.
6:36:41PM >> GOOD EVENING.
CORY WILLIAMS REPRESENTING THE OWNER AT 4707 EAST HENRY.
AGAIN, AS MS. McCARTHY MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE
THE PROPERTY REZONED TO R-35 DESIGNATION AS IT IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE DEVELOPMENT JUST SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY AT 4707.
6:36:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE
APPLICANT?
HEARING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.

COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS ONE, PLEASE?
6:37:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION FOR NUMBER FOUR, FILE TA/CPA 26-08,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE
LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 4707 EAST HENRY AVENUE, FROM RESIDENTIAL 10,
R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL 35, R-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:37:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
6:37:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
6:37:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
6:37:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
6:37:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
6:37:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
6:37:55PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
6:37:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:37:57PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
I HAVE TO DO SECOND READING.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M., LOCATED AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:38:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S KEEP THIS ON A ROLL.

ITEM 5, FAST AND QUICK.
6:38:24PM >>QUINN STEELE:
QUINN STEELE, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION.
THIS IS TA/CPA 26-01, WHICH IS A MAP AMENDMENT FOR 1605
NORTH WATERS COURT.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS PRIVATELY INITIATED IN SMALL SCALE
COVERING APPROXIMATELY 3.39 ACRES.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM
COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.
HERE IS A GENERAL LOCATION MAP.
SUBJECT SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT, CENTRAL PARK URBAN VILLAGE, THE HISTORIC YBOR
NEIGHBORHOOD, THE YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND
CENTRAL PARK CRA.
HERE IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE WHICH IS OUTLINED IN
YELLOW.
I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF RECENT
DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, PARTICULARLY WITHIN
GASWORX.
SO THIS AERIAL MAY NOT FULLY REFLECT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS
AROUND THE SITE.
THIS SITE FRONTS EAST 7TH AVENUE, WHICH IS A MAJOR
COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IN YBOR CITY AND IS LOCATED ABOUT 230
FEET EAST OF NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE WHICH IS A DESIGNATED
TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.

NEBRASKA AVENUE ALSO MARKS THE BOUNDARY OF THE CB PERIPHERY,
WEST OF NEBRASKA AND SOUTH OF EAST 3rd AVENUE ALLOWS
DENSITY AND INTENSITY BONUSES OF UP TO 100% ABOVE THE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED UNDER THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE
DESIGNATION.
THE RED DASHED LINE SHOWN REPRESENTS THE BOUNDARY FOR THE
YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT TO THE EAST.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS A MIXTURE OF USES WITH MULTIFAMILY
COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.
IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH ARE BOOKER T. WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY
AND ROBERT W. SAUNDERS LIBRARY.
TO THE WEST IS A CHURCH AND DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT WITH
GTE BUILDING FURTHER WEST AND ENCORE DEVELOPMENT JUST SOUTH
OF THAT.
THE LA UNION APARTMENTS A PART OF THE GASWORX DEVELOPMENT
ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST, WITH A CHANNEL DISTRICT
FURTHER BEYOND THE FRAME.
THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG SOUTH
HENDERSON AVENUE.
LOOKING EAST ON EAST SCOTT STREET, EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE,
THE LA UNION APARTMENTS.
LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SITE ALONG EAST ESTELLE STREET TOWARDS
THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
LOOKING WEST ALONG EAST HENDERSON AVENUE WEST OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.

LOOKING WEST ACROSS NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE AS COMMUNITY MIX
USE 35, ALLOWING MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
USES AT 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR 2.0 F.A.R. WHICH
SURROUNDS THE SITE ON ALL SIDES.
TO THE EAST ALONG EAST 7TH AVENUE IS UMU 60.
SOUTHEAST ARE ADDITIONAL UMU 60 AND RMU 100 PARCELS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE GASWORX DEVELOPMENT.
TO THE WEST OF NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE INCLUDES UMU 60 AND RMU
100.
FURTHER SOUTH IS RECREATION OPEN SPACE WHICH IS THE TAMPA
PARK PLAZA AND FURTHER NORTH IS R-20.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AS UMU 60 WHICH
WOULD ALLOW A HIGH DENSITY AND INTENSITY MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN UP TO 60 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR 3.25
F.A.R.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INCREASE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FROM 118
TO 203 DWELLING UNITS IN THE ALLOWABLE INTENSITY FROM JUST
OVER 295,000 SQUARE FEET TO JUST OVER 479,000 SQUARE FEET OF
RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INTRODUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR CI USES,
COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES AND INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY
AND INTENSITY ON THE SITE.
WE SENT THIS AMENDMENT OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW AND DID NOT
RECEIVE ANY OBJECTIONS, ALTHOUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD NOTED THAT

WASHINGTON ELEMENTARY AND BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL ARE PROJECTED TO
EXCEED CAPACITY.
IN CONSIDERING THIS AMENDMENT, STAFF REVIEWED COMPATIBILITY
WITH THE YBOR CITY LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO DESIGN STANDARDS
AND REVIEW BY THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
THIS PROCESS ENSURES NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
HISTORIC CHARACTER AND SCALE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THIS PLAN AMENDMENT WENT BEFORE THE BLC ON JULY 28, 2026,
AND WAS RECOMMENDED FOR CONSISTENCY.
PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE REQUEST SUPPORTS A COMPACT
CITY FORM BY DIRECTING GROWTH TO THE CENTRAL PARK URBAN
VILLAGE, AN AREA INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE HIGHER DENSITY
MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
THE SITE IS ALSO WITHIN A CRA AND IS CURRENTLY
UNDERUTILIZED.
REDEVELOPMENT WOULD SUPPORT REINVESTMENT AND MORE EFFICIENT
USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN ADDITION, SITE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT AND
MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING TRANSIT EMPHASIS
CORRIDOR, TECO STREETCAR, HART BUS SERVICE AND TAMPA UNION
STATION WHICH SUPPORTS HIGHER DENSITY AND INTENSITY
DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LOCATION.
THE REQUEST ALSO SUPPORTS POLICIES RELATED TO ENSURING AN
ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING.

THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA IDENTIFIED FOR GROWTH,
HELPING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CITY'S PROJECTED GROWTH IN
POPULATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP
AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES,
AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I'M
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:43:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
6:43:24PM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
WE ARE GOING TO GIVE A VERY CONDENSED PRESENTATION BECAUSE
WE HAVE SUPPORT OF STAFF, OBVIOUSLY, BLC, AS WELL AS THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND OUR CLIENT HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF GOING OUT AND
INTRODUCING THEMSELVES TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS,
STAKEHOLDERS AND HEARD NOTHING BUT POSITIVES.
MEAGHAN SMITH FROM MY OFFICE IS GOING TO SHOW JUST A FEW
BRIEF SLIDES AND RICKY DE CAMPS IS THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE
TO SAY A FEW WORDS AS WELL.
WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD LIKE
BUT DIDN'T WANT TO OVERDO IT, BUT HERE FOR ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
6:44:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT OVERDOING IT IS THE TONE OF THE NIGHT.

6:44:05PM >> GOOD EVENING, MEAGHAN SMITH WITH GARDNER BREWER HUDSON.
OLD-SCHOOL WITH THE ELMO, BECAUSE THE CORD HAS GONE MISSING.
QUICKLY WANTED TO TOUCH BACK THROUGH.
THIS IS REALLY THE NUCLEUS OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, YBOR CITY,
DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, WHICH WE FEEL HELPS
MAKE IT APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT
WE'RE PROPOSING.
KIND OF ZOOMING INTO THE SITE.
1605 NORTH WATERS, LOCATED IN THE YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
LESS THAN 250 FEET FROM THE CDB PERIPHERY LINE.
TRANSPORTATION-WISE, WE HAVE THE TECO LINE STREETCAR, HART
ROUTE NINE, COLLECTOR ROAD AND TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THAT SUPPORTS A COMPATIBLE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UMU 60 AT THIS SITE.
WITH THAT HAND IT OVER TO RICKY DE CAMPS WITH THE
DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
6:45:00PM >> GOOD EVENING.
RICKY DE CAMPS.
I REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT, TAMPA PARK
APARTMENTS.
JUST WANTED TO SAY, LOOK, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS PIECE OF
PROPERTY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO IS CONTINUE THE
GROWTH IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YBOR.
PRIMARILY AS WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH ALL THE LOCAL
BUSINESSES AND LANDOWNERS, THE FIRST THING THAT WE HEAR IS

FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS IS WE WANT MORE DENSITY IN THIS
AREA, IN THIS CORRIDOR.
SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOING TO HELP THE BUSINESSES
THERE.
AS WE WERE ANALYZING THE SITE, TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS CAME TO
US, WE'RE THE RIGHT BUYER FOR THE SITE AND VERY INTERESTED
IN INCREASING THAT DENSITY IN ORDER FOR US TO DEVELOP OUR
PROJECT THAT'S NEEDED.
HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WANT TO KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
6:45:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
THE ITEM.
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS ONE?
NUMBER 5.
6:46:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 26-01, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT AN

ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 1605 NORTH WATERS COURT, FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
CMU-35, TO URBAN MIXED USE 60, UMU 60, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL
OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE HAD TYPOS IN THERE.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
6:46:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A COMMENT.
I WAS WATCHING FROM BACK THERE.
SO MY COMMENT IS, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS, THERE IS A GIANT GREEN SIGN THAT'S PART OF IT RIGHT
THERE.
PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO INCLUDE THE DOUBLE PROTECTED BIKE
LANE THAT IS ALSO PART OF TRANSPORTATION FOR BOTH PLANNING
COMMISSION AND OUR APPLICANT.
THANK YOU.
6:47:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
6:47:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
6:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
6:47:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
6:47:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

6:47:18PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
6:47:20PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
6:47:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:47:23PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:47:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD NIGHT, GUYS.
OKAY.
THE REST OF THE EVENING IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IT WILL REQUIRE YOU TO BE SWORN IN.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK OR TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF ANY OF THE
REST OF THE HEARINGS, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
VERY GOOD.
ITEM NUMBER 8, PLEASE.
SHORT AND TO THE POINT IS ALWAYS ON ORDER TONIGHT.
6:48:07PM >> LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 IS AB 2-26-10, A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST
FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6203 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WITH SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE,
SH-CI.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH
FLORIDA AVENUE AND WEST HANNA AVENUE.
A FEW BLOCKS WEST OF THE INTERSTATE 275.
THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND ALONG THE MIXED USE
CORRIDOR.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, A BLOWN-UP
VERSION OF IT.
THIS IS WEST HANNA HERE, AND THIS IS NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE
HERE.
THE SITE CONSISTS OF EXISTING SINGLE STORY BUILDING
CURRENTLY OPERATING AS JUG AND BOTTLE DEPARTMENT.
ESTABLISHMENT OPERATES AS A RESTAURANT AND RETAIL USES.
CURRENTLY HAS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE APPROVAL FOR BEER AND
WINE FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES.
THIS REQUEST WILL ADD THE ABILITY FOR THE OPERATOR TO SELL
LIQUOR AS WELL.
THERE IS NO INCREASES TO THE FOOTPRINT THAT HAS BEEN
FORMERLY APPROVED.
THIS IS BASICALLY THEM ADDING THE LIQUOR.
CUSTOMER ACCESS IS ALONG WEST HANNA AVENUE HERE.
AND THEY PROVIDED FOUR PARKING SPACES, AND THAT WAS
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WITH THE CURRENT APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOL

SALES.
I HAVE SOME QUICK PHOTOS TO SHOW.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS WEST HANNA AND THIS IS A VIEW FROM NORTH FLORIDA
AVENUE.
THIS IS THE REAR.
IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA ABOUT THE PARKING.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE ALLEY.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST HANNA AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS RIGHT BEHIND US.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON HANNA, AND THIS IS FACING SOUTH FROM
THE SITE, A KWIK STOP SUPERMARKET THAT ALSO SELLS ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGES.
THIS IS WHY THE APPLICANT NEEDED A WAIVER FROM OTHER
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LOCATIONS.
THE FINDINGS, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF
REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IT TO BE INCONSISTENT DUE
TO THAT WAIVER WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND
DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WILL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?

6:51:24PM >> GOOD EVENING.
BRICE PINSON WITH HALFF ASSOCIATES, 1000 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
GOING TO MAKE THIS PRETTY QUICK.
BUT I DO HAVE TWO LETTERS IN SUPPORT TO SUBMIT THAT DIDN'T
MAKE IT INTO THE RECORD.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON JUG AND BOTTLE, IT'S BEEN OPERATING
SINCE 2015.
IT HAS ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET INDOORS AND OUTDOOR SEATING
AREA.
JUG AND BOTTLE CARRIES SOME CRAFT BEER, WINE, AND OPTION
SPECIALTY PRODUCTS.
AND A LOT OF TAMPA BAY LOCAL PRODUCTS AND BREWERIES ARE
FEATURED THERE.
THEY ALSO HAVE REALLY GREAT RAMEN IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN.
I RECOMMEND.
IN 2015, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT
FOR RETAIL SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY.
IN 2021, THEY CAME BACK AND GOT APPROVED FOR CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES, AND NOW TODAY WE'RE ASKING TO ADD LIQUOR TO THAT.
THE SITE PLAN AND WAIVER REQUEST HAVEN'T CHANGED SINCE THE
LAST PROPOSAL.
TO GO OVER THE WAIVER REQUEST AGAIN, THE FIRST ONE IS TO
OTHER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMITS JUST BECAUSE THERE IS A
KWIK STOP NEXT DOOR WHICH SALES BEER AND WINE FOR SALE
OFF-PREMISES.

THE OTHER WAIVER REQUEST, WHICH WAS ALSO APPROVED LAST TIME,
IS JUST FOR THE PARKING.
AGAIN, THERE ARE FOUR CAR PARKING SPACES AND THEN A BIKE
RACK WHICH SUPPLEMENTS THE OTHER SPACE.
AND THAT WAS APPROVED ALSO WITH THE LAST APPLICATION AND
TRANSPORTATION FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
6:53:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA, SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
6:53:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE AB 2-26-10, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2, FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL
VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
PACKAGE SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT -- BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR -- ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF
LAND LOCATED AT 6203 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT
ALL ORDINANCES OR SMARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE
REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-69; PROVIDING AN

EFFECTIVE DATE.
6:54:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL.
6:54:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
6:54:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
6:54:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
6:54:17PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
6:54:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
6:54:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
6:54:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
6:54:22PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
6:54:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:54:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS
WELL LOVED.
I WILL SAY THAT WHEN WE MOVED INTO OUR HOUSE, WHICH IS TWO
BLOCKS AWAY, IT WAS THE FIRST PLACE WE STOPPED.
6:54:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEEN THERE.
NEXT, LET'S GO REAL QUICK.
6:54:54PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 9 IS AB 2-26-16.

THIS IS A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5804 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WITH A SMALL
VENUE CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION
ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN RED.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THIS IS ALONG THE NORTHERN BORDER OF
TAMPA.
THIS SITE IS ALSO PART OF THE BUILDING EXISTS IN THE COUNTY
AS WELL.
THIS REQUEST IS PRIMARILY ONLY FOR A PORTION OF THE BUILDING
THAT IS IN THE CITY.
THIS IS ALONG THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
THERE IS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND SOME
NEIGHBORHOOD USES IN THE AREA.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE SITE CONSISTS OF EXISTING SINGLE STORY BUILDING,
CURRENTLY OPERATING AS A CATERING SERVICE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO ESTABLISH AN
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT FOR A PORTION OF THE
BUILDING THAT WILL BE USED AS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY ON LIMITED
BASIS.
APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WOULD ALLOW THE SALE OF BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AS WELL AS PACKAGE

SALES FOR OFF-SITE PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
CUSTOMER ACCESS IS PROVIDED WITH THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OFF
OF -- WELL, TWO LOCATIONS OFF OF EAST COLUMBUS AND OFF OF
NORTH 58th STREET.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE BOUNDARY WHERE THE
COUNTY IS AND THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT IS PROPOSED
TO BE USED FOR THOSE PLACES OF ASSEMBLY.
JUST THE SHADED AREAS HERE.
ALL TOGETHER, IT'S 5,630 SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S ALL INDOORS.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION OFF OF COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THE PARKING LOT AND THE BUILDING.
THIS IS FACING SOUTH ON EAST COLUMBUS.
THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SITE.
THIS IS FACING NORTH ON NORTH 58th STREET AND COLUMBUS.
THIS IS FACING SOUTH FROM THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS DUE TO
THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
IF COUNCIL SHOULD MOVE TO APPROVE.
6:57:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:57:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE THE WAIVERS THAT YOU OPPOSE?
6:57:42PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
THERE IS A WAIVER TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED

DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM OTHER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES
LOCATIONS.
THAT'S FROM A THOUSAND FEET TO 482 FEET.
AND THEN THERE IS A WAIVER FOR RESIDENTIAL USES THAT
BOUNDARY IS ALSO A THOUSAND FEET TO 256 FEET.
THERE'S ALSO A WAIVER FOR PARKING, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR A
WAIVER FROM PROVIDING OFF-STREET PARKING FOR 127 SPACES TO
45 SPACES.
THAT'S A 65% REDUCTION.
6:58:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
6:58:29PM >> GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS AMANDA, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT TODAY.
THIS IS A PUFF AND STUFF CATERING SHOP.
THEY ARE ALREADY LICENSED WITH 13 CT CATERING ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE LICENSE WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO GO OFF-SITE TO PROVIDE
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FOR USE AT EVENTS AND CATERING
PURPOSES.
THIS LICENSE CLASSIFICATION THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS 4
COP QUOTA LICENSE.
IT WOULD ALLOW THE ESTABLISHMENT ITSELF TO BE LICENSED TO
SELL BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
THEY DESIRE TO HAVE VERY SMALL LIMITED EVENTS ON THE
PREMISES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE ADDING THE ASSEMBLY USE.
THIS WOULD BE FOR NETWORKING PURPOSES OR FOR SPECIAL INVITE

ONLY, LITTLE EVENTS.
THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE THEM TO BE BIG EVENTS AT ALL.
AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THE EVENTS WE NEED THE
APPROPRIATE LIQUOR LICENSE CLASSIFICATION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
THOSE.
I AM HERE FOR ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
I WILL NOT OVERDO MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:59:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:59:30PM >> I WANTED TO STATE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER IS HERE IF YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS
SPECIFICALLY.
6:59:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 9, PLEASE?
6:59:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE
SALES/OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
AT 5804 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7:00:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
7:00:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
7:00:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
7:00:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
7:00:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
7:00:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
7:00:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
7:00:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
7:00:40PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY

BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
7:00:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED I WAS GOING TO
LEAVE AT 7, SINCE WE'RE CLIPPING ALONG, I'LL TRY TO STICK
WITH YOU GUYS.
LET'S GO.
ITEM 10, QUICK.
7:01:08PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN AGAIN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 10 IS AB 2-26-17, SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1601 THROUGH 1607 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES WITH SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.
IT'S OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND LOCATED AT
THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH FRANKLIN STREET AND EAST
ESTELLE STREET.
LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND TAMPA
HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO, THIS IS NORTH FRANKLIN STREET AND EAST ESTELLE.
THIS IS A BUILDING -- THE BUILDING HERE, TWO STORY BUILDING
THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE TENANTS INSIDE OF THAT BUILDING.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CURRENTLY ACCOMMODATES VARIOUS

COMMERCIAL USES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES WITH SMALL VENUE CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
CUSTOMER ACCESS IS PROVIDED ALONG THE ENTRANCE ALONG NORTH
FRANKLIN STREET AND THERE ARE NO OUTDOOR ALCOHOL BEVERAGE
SALES OR CONSUMPTION AREAS PROPOSES.
PARKING IS NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE
TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND SITES FRONTING FRANKLIN STREET WITH LESS THAN 20,000
SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA ARE EXEMPT FROM MINIMUM
OFF-STREET PARKING.
SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS FACING EAST ON THE CORNER OF FRANKLIN AND ESTELLE.
THIS IS FACING NORTH ON NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
FACING SOUTH.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS BEHIND US ON THE LEFT.
THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION FROM NORTH FRANKLIN AND ESTELLE
STREET.
AND THIS IS FACING WEST.
THIS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE IS PARKING THAT IS PROVIDED ON THE SITE -- WELL, OFF
THE SITE, BUT THERE IS PARKING AVAILABLE IN THAT VICINITY.
THIS IS FACING NORTHEAST ON NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, SO THE

PROPERTY IS UP HERE.
I'M SORRY, IT'S RIGHT TO THE RIGHT.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE
APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS DUE TO
THE REQUESTED WAIVER.
THE WAIVERS, TO REQUIRE THE REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION
FROM OTHER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES LOCATION, ESTABLISHMENTS
FROM 250 FEET TO 0 FEET.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
7:04:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THE CLOSEST ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
ESTABLISHMENT IS IT A BREWERY OR WHAT IS IT?
7:04:08PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
FLOWER CROWN KOMBUCHA.
7:04:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY CAME BEFORE US, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE
YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING.
7:04:16PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
2021.
7:04:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
7:04:23PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
JIM PORTER WITH AKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS.

THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS ANYWHERE NEARBY.
THE AREA IS CONTINUING TO EVOLVE.
THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST HISTORIC BUILDINGS
IN TAMPA.
THE AUTO DEALERSHIP BUILDING AND IN PRISTINE CONDITION.
THE APPLICANT IS TY RODRIGUEZ, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF
ROOSTER AND THE TILL AND ALTER EGO AND BEFORE THAT MISE EN
PLACE.
WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
7:04:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM HURTAK AND SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ ITEM 10.
7:05:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 10, FILE AB 2-26-17, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 1601

NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, SUITE 1607, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 21-18, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
7:05:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-81.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:06:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
7:06:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
7:06:06PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
7:06:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
7:06:08PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
7:06:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
7:06:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
7:06:12PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
7:06:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 11.
LET'S GO.
7:06:32PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 11 IS AB 2-26-19.

THIS IS A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
6207 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WITH A SMALL
VENUE CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION
ON PREMISES ONLY.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.
THIS IS LOCATED ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY, A LITTLE BIT NORTH
OF THE BASE.
OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
THIS IS SURROUNDED BY MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL USES AND ALONG A
MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, THIS IS SOUTH DALE
MABRY HERE.
THE SUBJECT SITE CONSISTS OF EXISTING SINGLE STORY BUILDING
CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE TAMPA GREEN BERET ASSOCIATION TEAM
HOUSE AND OPERATES AS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES WITH SMALL VENUE CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR FOR ON CONSUMPTION PREMISES ONLY.
ACCESS IS PROVIDED ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
THE PARKING LOT IS NORTH OF THE BUILDING.
THERE IS A REQUIREMENT OF 36 OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES.
THIS SITE, THE STAFF REPORT STATED THAT IT PROVIDED 42 WITH
40 STANDARD SPACES AND TWO ADA SPACES.
ACTUALLY 43 STANDARD SPACES AND TWO ADA SPACES FOR TOTAL OF

45.
SPACES, SO THEY ARE OVER-PARKED.
SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE PARKING LOT.
YOU CAN SEE THE ADA PARKING SPACES THERE.
THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION.
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE
APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY
OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS DUE TO THE REQUESTED
WAIVER FOR THE REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL
USES FROM 250 FEET TO 10 FEET.
MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
7:08:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK, AND I AM GOING TO HIT THE ROAD.
YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
I HOPE THE REST OF THE EVENING GOES AS QUICK --
7:08:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?
[KNOCKING ON WOOD]
7:09:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APPLICANT.
7:09:04PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

GRACE YANG, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
IT'S MY PLEASURE TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO REPRESENT
TGBA INC., WHICH IS A NONPROFIT VETERANS ASSOCIATION.
TGBA STANDS FOR THE TAMPA GREEN BERET ASSOCIATION.
AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM MR. DEBARDELEBEN, THIS REQUEST IS FOR
THE GREEN BERET TEAM'S HOUSE TAMPA, WHICH IS A SINGLE STORY
BUILDING, LOCATED ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM THE ENTRANCE OF
MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY,
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ALL THE SPACE IS INDOORS AND THERE IS
A WAIVER THAT WE NEED BECAUSE OF THE 250-FOOT SEPARATION.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
7:09:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
7:09:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE TWO GENTLEMEN IN THE GREEN JACKETS.
7:10:01PM >> YES, WITH US IN THE AUDIENCE --
7:10:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU OF THE VIETNAM ERA OR YOU ARE
TOO YOUNG?
7:10:10PM >> I'M 72.
7:10:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE.
7:10:14PM >> OFFICER STAN COX AND JIM FAGAN.
7:10:17PM >> I'M 70, SO WE'RE BOTH --
7:10:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.

7:10:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I LIKE YOUR HAIRCUTS.
7:10:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT EVERY CITY HAS?
I HADN'T HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.
REALLY COOL IDEA.
DO OTHER CITIES HAVE THESE?
7:10:37PM >> IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, PERHAPS -- I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW
MANY TEAM HOUSES THERE ARE.
7:10:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR
NAME.
7:10:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALSO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU TO ALL YOUR MEMBERS.
7:10:55PM >> JIM FAGAN, I'M VICE PRESIDENT FOR GREEN BERET
ASSOCIATION.
SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
THIS IS THE ONLY ONE IN EXISTENCE.
7:11:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOW.
7:11:04PM >> AND IT WAS CREATED OVER A 22-YEAR PERIOD WITH INDIVIDUAL
DONATIONS BY THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO BUILD THIS BUILDING.
IT'S BEEN QUITE A TIME IN COMING.
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
ANY QUESTIONS?
7:11:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR ASKING THAT.
THAT'S AMAZING.
7:11:28PM >> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING.

WOW, THAT STUMPED ME.
SO, YES, WE'RE REQUESTING THIS.
THE BUILDING ALREADY EXISTS, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE OFFICERS,
VETERANS, PEOPLE WHO ARE CONNECTED TO THE MACDILL AIR FORCE
BASE COMMUNITY, CENTCOM, SPECIAL OPERATIONS, SO THIS IS
PLANNED TO BE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GATHER AND BE ABLE TO
SOCIALIZE AND TO HAVE RECEPTIONS AND EVENTS FOR PEOPLE
CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
IT WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
7:12:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
ITEM TONIGHT?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
I BELIEVE WE LEFT OFF WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
7:12:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER 11, FILE AB
2-26-19, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE
AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL
THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER,
WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND

LOCATED AT 6207 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7:13:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, A SECOND
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
7:13:10PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
7:13:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
7:13:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
7:13:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
7:13:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
7:13:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
7:13:17PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15, 2026
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
7:13:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OUR FINAL FILE OF THE NIGHT.
7:13:42PM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN WITH DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM 12 IS AB 2-26-20, A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 210 EAST FOWLER AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WITH A

RESTAURANT CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
ON THE OVERHEAD IS AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.
THE SITE IS ALSO BISECTED WITH THE COUNTY, SO A MAJOR
PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS IN THE CITY.
SOME OF IT IS ALSO IN THE COUNTY.
THIS REQUEST ONLY APPLIES TO THE PORTION OF THE BUILDING
THAT IS -- I'LL SHOW YOU THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN.
IT ONLY INVOLVES THE LOCATION THAT'S INSIDE OF THE CITY.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST FOWLER AVENUE
BETWEEN INTERSTATE 275 AND NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT AND ALONG A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE SITE CONSISTS OF AN EXISTING HOTEL.
THIS IS THE VALUE LODGE WITH A SEPARATELY OPERATED
RESTAURANT PROPOSED WITHIN THE BUILDING, WHICH IS HATCHED
HERE IN -- WITH THE HATCHING.
APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES WITH A RESTAURANT CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
CUSTOMER ACCESS IS PROVIDED THROUGH THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE
ALONG FOWLER AVENUE AND SURFACE PARKING IS SHARED WITH THE
HOTEL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING.

THERE ARE NO OUTDOOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES OR CONSUMPTION
AREAS PROPOSED.
THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AREA IS 4,777 SQUARE FEET, ALL
LOCATED INDOORS.
THIS SITE DOES REQUIRE 203 PARKING SPACES AND PROVIDES 186
SPACES.
FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAVE
REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT
WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT
REGULATIONS DUE TO THE REQUESTED WAIVER FOR REDUCED PARKING.
I SKIPPED OVER SHOWING YOU SOME PHOTOS.
LET ME BACK TRACK A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE EXISTING VALUE LOT
CURRENTLY UNDER RENOVATION.
BUT THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS WHERE THAT PROPOSED
RESTAURANT WILL BE.
THIS IS FACING THE SUBJECT SITE FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY
TO THE EAST.
IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS OVERFLOW FOR THE CAR
DEALERSHIPS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET.
THIS IS FACING EAST.
YOU CAN SEE INTERSTATE 275, AND OUR SITE IS ON THE LEFT.
THIS IS JUST FACING SOUTHEAST.
THE SUBJECT IS BEHIND THE CAMERA.
THIS IS FACING WEST ON EAST FOWLER.

MINOR SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE TO APPROVE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
7:16:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
APPLICANT?
7:16:42PM >> OKAY.
MY NAME IS TERRY HALEY.
I RESIDE AT 108 CLARK TOWER DRIVE IN BRANDON.
I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.
JUST TO TALK QUICKLY, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO SPEED THIS UP.
MODIFICATIONS ARE NO PROBLEM.
JUST SOME OF THE VERBIAGE.
THE WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO NOTES TO
BE DONE.
ONE IS WITH THE DISTANCE OF RESIDENTIAL AND SEPARATING THE
TWO PROPERTIES, THERE IS MOST CASES AN EIGHT-FOOT CONCRETE
WALL.
IN SOME CASES SIX.
THEN YOU ALSO HAVE BOTH NATURAL SHRUB AND LANDSCAPE STUFF AS
WELL CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO.
IT HAS OPERATED AS A HOTEL WITH AN EATERY SINCE 1972.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED WITH A 4 COP BACK IN 2006 BUT LOST
THEIR ZONING BECAUSE IT SHUT DOWN AND SAID THERE WERE NO
SALES OR ANYTHING.

WE'RE ASKING TO REKINDLE THAT.
ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF DISTANCE,
IT'S ABOUT 171 -- EXCUSE ME, OPPOSITE OF THAT.
IT IS 171 FROM THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING.
SURVEY SHOWED, BUT ACTUALLY IF YOU GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE
ONLY ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING, IT ADDS TO IT ANOTHER 200 OR
SO FEET.
ACTUALLY, ANOTHER 38 FEET.
SO WE'RE JUST SHY OF IT BY ABOUT 20 FEET OR SO.
AND THEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE PARKING.
RIGHT NOW AT 8% DEFICIT.
IT REQUIRES 203 SPACES.
THERE'S ONLY 186.
BUT BASED ON THE FORMULAS, YOU WOULD BE TALKING 100%
OCCUPANCY OF ALL THE ROOMS, EVERYONE HAVING A CAR, WHICH
EVERYONE DOESN'T, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE 100% OF OCCUPANCY OF
THE RESTAURANT AT ONE TIME.
IN ORDER TO OVERFLOW THIS.
LET'S SEE.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO OFFER.
I CAN ANSWER MORE.
LIKE I SAY, THIS WOULD RARELY HAPPEN THAT BOTH MY APPLICANT
AND THE HOTEL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE PROBLEM OF 100%
OCCUPANCY IN BOTH PLACES AT ONE TIME.
I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OTHER THAN THAT WE'D LIKE TO GET STARTED IN BUSINESS HERE.
ANOTHER THING, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN QUITE THE
AGGRAVATION BECAUSE PRIOR TO MY CLIENT TALKING WITH ANYONE,
HE'S DOING THIS 4 COP THAT REQUIRES FOOD SALES, WELL, AS
LUCK WOULD HAVE IT, HE CREATED HIS KITCHENS IN THE COUNTY,
BECAUSE DINING ROOM AND DRINK AREAS IN THE CITY, HE HAS TO
SUPPORT IT WITH FOOD SALES, BUT THE FOOD IS COMING FROM THE
COUNTY.
SO IT'S BEEN A BEAR.
IF YOU COULD HELP US OUT.
THIS GUY HAS BEEN PAYING RENT FOR MONTHS ALREADY.
7:19:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
OKAY.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO READ THIS?
7:20:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE NUMBER AB 2-26-20, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, RESTAURANT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,

CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
AT 210 EAST FOWLER AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
7:20:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND I HAVE A SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ROLL CALL.
7:20:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
7:20:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
7:20:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
7:21:00PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
7:21:03PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
7:21:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
7:21:05PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15,
2026, AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
7:21:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEW BUSINESS, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG?

COUNCILMAN VIERA?
7:21:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS, IF I MAY.
I'M READING HERE.
I CAN SEND THIS TO OUR CLERK.
7:21:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ACTUALLY, THE CLERK WAS GIVEN A WRITTEN COPY.
FOR JUST ONE OF THEM.
7:21:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOTION TO REMOVE -- SO THIS IS BECAUSE STATION
24 IS BEGINNING AND EVERYTHING, MOTION TO REMOVE THE
IN-PERSON STATUS UPDATE ON STATION 24 SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER
1st AND TO REPLACE THE CURRENT MONTHLY WRITTEN REPORTS AND
QUARTERLY IN-PERSON REPORTS WITH IN-PERSON CONSTRUCTION
UPDATES BEGINNING IN MARCH OF THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH OF
2027.
AND THEN I'LL LEAVE IT TO WHOEVER TAKES MY PLACE OR ANYBODY
ELSE TO SEE THE DURATION OF IT BASED UPON THE CONSTRUCTION
STATUS, JUST SO THAT TFR DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THAT ALL THE
TIME, IF COUNCIL IS AMENABLE.
7:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
7:22:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY BROKE GROUND ALREADY ON STATION 24

THIS WEEK.
IT'S ALL ON SCHEDULE.
7:22:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYTHING ELSE?
7:22:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A LETTER
REGARDING THE RENAMING OF FIRE STATION ONE OR A STREET FOR
FRANZ WARNER JUNIOR AND ISAAC ROYAL.
I WOULD MOTION FOR THAT TO COME BACK WITH COUNCIL'S CONSENT
ON NOVEMBER 19.
I'LL BE OUT, BUT I'M SURE IT WILL GET SUPPORT ON COUNCIL AND
ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
IF STAFF NEEDS MORE TIME, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
7:23:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION?
7:23:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, MA'AM.
A MOTION FOR A REPORT FROM STAFF ON THE RENAMING OF EITHER
FIRE STATION ONE OR A STREET RENAMING NEAR FIRE STATION ONE
FOR FRANZ WARNER SENIOR AND ISAAC ROYAL AFTER THEIR TRAGIC
MURDER 45 YEARS AGO ON NOVEMBER 19.
THAT IS MY MOTION.
7:23:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
IS THIS A WRITTEN REPORT, COUNCILMAN?
7:23:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
7:23:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THEN HOW MANY -- I'D HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE
CALENDAR.
HOW MANY STAFF REPORTS DO WE HAVE ON NOVEMBER 19.

7:24:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ONE.
7:24:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS WOULD BE THE LAST ONE BECAUSE THE
CHAIR HAS MADE THE DETERMINATION, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCIL IS
BEGINNING AT 11 A.M. THAT DAY ON NOVEMBER 19.
OKAY.
THAT'S FINE.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.
CLOSE OUT.
7:24:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S MY MOTION.
THANK YOU.
7:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND THAT.
IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER IS INTERESTED, IF YOU GO TO STATION
ONE DOWNTOWN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY STILL SEE THE BULLET HOLES
FROM THAT DAY IN THE FRONT DOOR.
BILL WADE WHO IS VERY ACTIVE, RETIRED BUT VERY ACTIVE WITH
THE FIREFIGHTER MUSEUM GAVE ME THE TOUR AND EVERYTHING.
GREAT MOTION, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
7:24:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
7:24:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
7:24:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
7:24:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
7:24:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIRST, TOMORROW IS SEPTEMBER 25th, "9
TO 5."
UNOFFICIALLY DOLLY PARTON DAY.
WE REMEMBER HER.
I HAVE A MOTION ON MORE SERIOUS STUFF, REQUEST BY PLANNING
COMMISSION SETTING AN ADOPTION HEARING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
FY '27 THROUGH FY '31, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, CIS SCHEDULE
PROJECT UPDATE.
OCTOBER 22, 2026 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE
FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
7:25:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
7:25:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REQUEST BY PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING
ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA 26-09 AND TA/CPA 26-10 ON
JANUARY 28, 2027 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE
FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
7:25:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
NOTHING.
I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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