TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2026, 9:00 A.M.
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9:07:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:08:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT IS MY HONOR AND MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO PRESENT
PASTOR KERRY NANCE OF THE SOUTHSIDE BAPTIST CHURCH IN TAMPA,
WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2003.
HE HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED AS THE PASTOR SINCE ITS FOUNDING
AND HAS LED THE CHURCH IN ITS CONTINUED GROWTH AND OUTREACH
TO THE COMMUNITY.
PASTOR NANCE GRADUATED FROM TRINITY BAPTIST COLLEGE IN 1992
WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS IN PASTORAL THEOLOGY AND EARNED HIS
MASTER'S DEGREE IN 2005.
IN ADDITION TO HIS PASTORAL DUTIES, HE HAS SERVED AS THE
TAMPA POLICE CHAPLAIN SINCE 2004 AND HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN
SEVERAL CHRISTIAN MINISTRIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
KERRY AND HIS WIFE AMY HAVE BEEN MARRIED SINCE 1993 AND
TOGETHER THEY HAVE THREE BLESSED CHILDREN -- ABIGAIL,
ANDREW, AND AVERY.
ALL As.
I NEVER MADE AN A IN MY LIFE.
TOGETHER, THEY HAVE MINISTERED AT REVIVALS, CONFERENCES,
RETREATS, AND OTHER EVENTS, SHARING THEIR FAITH AND
ENCOURAGING OTHERS.
OUTSIDE OF MINISTRY, PASTOR NANCE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH
HIS FAMILY, GOLFING, AND FLYING AS A LICENSED PILOT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND DOING THE PRAYER THIS MORNING,
PASTOR.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:09:16AM >> LET US PRAY.
OUR FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL TODAY THAT WE CAN COME HERE AND
MEET AND ASSEMBLE.
LORD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HAND OF BLESSING THAT
HAS BEEN UPON THIS CITY.
LORD, WE RECOGNIZE EVEN IN THIS SEASON WITH THE HURRICANES,
HOW YOU HAVE KEPT US AND PREVENTED US.
LORD, WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DANGER IN THOSE STORMS.
AND, GOD, WE RECOGNIZE, LORD, YOUR FAVOR UPON THAT.
LORD, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE, LORD, HOW YOU BLESS THIS CITY AND,
LORD, THAT YOU HAVE KEPT US AND GIVEN US LEADERSHIP,
DIRECTION, GROWTH, AND, FATHER, WE JUST WANT TO LOOK TO YOU
FOR THAT AND GIVE YOU THE HONOR AND THE PRAISE.
LORD, TODAY, AS WE COME TO THIS MEETING, LORD, I DO PRAY
THAT YOU MIGHT BLESS THESE COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN THAT SIT
HERE.
LORD, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE HEAVY DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE
AND BURDENS THAT THEY CARRY.
LORD, AS THEY GUIDE OUR CITY, I PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD
GIVE THEM WISDOM.
I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD HELP THEM TO HAVE THE JUDGMENTS OF THE
LORD BEFORE THEM.
GOD, I THANK YOU THAT IN THE TIME OF NEED THAT WE ARE ABLE
TO PRAY.
LORD, I'M THANKFUL THAT YOUR EARS ARE OPEN.
I THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU HAVE A HEART THAT LOVES US.
SO, GOD, WOULD YOU GUIDE THEM, WOULD YOU BE WITH THEM
INDIVIDUALLY?
LORD, EVEN WITH THEIR FAMILIES, LORD, THE BURDENS THEY MAY
CARRY THERE, WOULD YOU GIVE THEM GRACE?
LORD, WE PRAY FOR OUR MAYOR, THAT YOU OVERSHADOW HER.
LORD WITH THE GREAT DECISIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE MADE.
LORD, EVEN WITH OUR POLICE AND OUR FIREMEN, LORD, AS THESE
MEN AND WOMEN PROTECT US AND, LORD, RUN INTO DANGER, GOD
HELP THEM, BE WITH THEM.
LORD, THE DECISIONS THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
LORD, MAY YOUR HAND BE WITH THEM.
LORD, WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU TODAY FOR YOUR LOVE, THAT
YOUR LOVE IS CONSISTENT, THAT IT'S FAITHFUL, THAT YOU NEVER
FORSAKE US.
LORD, THAT YOU DEMONSTRATED THAT LOVE, LORD, IN THE PERSON
OF JESUS CHRIST.
IT'S IN HIS NAME WE PRAY AND ASK.
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:11:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
9:11:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:11:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:11:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:11:56AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
9:11:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:11:59AM >> CARLSON?
CLENDENIN?
9:12:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:12:02AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:12:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT COUNCILMAN
CARLSON WILL NOT BE ATTENDING TODAY.
HE WOKE UP WITH A LITTLE BUG AND IS NOT FEELING WELL.
YOU JUST HAVE US TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE
BUDGET SESSION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 22, 2026.
WORKSHOP AND EVENING SESSION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 24, 2026,
REGULAR SESSIONS HELD ON OCTOBER 1, 2026 AND EVENING SESSION
HELD OCTOBER 8.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
AGENDA REVIEW.
FIRST OFF, ITEM NUMBER 50, THEY PUT A MEMO TO PULL, BUT THEY
DON'T NEED TO PULL THAT.
UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS IT.
WE CAN LEAVE THAT ON THE CONSENT.
LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR ITEMS 87, 88, 89 TOGETHER
RIGHT AFTER LUNCH.
THE PEREGRINE.
BECAUSE THE CHIEF HAS SOMETHING -- HAS TO BE DONE BY 3.
87, 88, 89 RIGHT AFTER LUNCH.
REMINDER, WE HAVE A 1:30 TIME CERTAIN WITH TINKLER ON
CHARTER REVIEW.
ITEM NUMBER 98, MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 22, 2026.
9:13:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
9:13:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
9:13:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM 98.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:13:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
WILL THAT BE AT THE EVENING SESSION SO YOU CAN TAKE ACTION
ON IT?
9:13:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVENING SESSION.
SORRY.
EVENING SESSION.
THANK YOU.
9:13:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RECEIVE AND FILE -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:13:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE STAFF
REPORT FROM TOM DEGEORGE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAD.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING?
9:14:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED ANYONE -- WE
DON'T NEED ANYONE FOR 91.
I DON'T AT LEAST.
9:14:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO WE NEED ANYBODY FOR 90?
9:14:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, 90 WE HAVE TO DISCUSS.
92 I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANYONE.
9:14:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
93?
9:14:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND PEOPLE WATCHING.
9:14:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL SUMMARIZE IT.
93?
94?
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IT.
WE DO NOT NEED STAFF FOR 91, 92, 93 OR 94.
WE DO NEED STAFF FOR 90.
CAN I GET -- VERY GOOD.
9:15:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THERE A VOTE?
9:15:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE ARE RESOLUTIONS.
WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:12AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY, ON 96 AND 97, IF I MAY, 97 I MAY
TALK TO STAFF AT LUNCH.
MAY I MAKE ABOUT MY IN AND OUT TODAY, MAY I MAKE A QUICK
STATEMENT TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING?
9:15:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
9:15:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
MY MOTHER HAD SOME SURGERY YESTERDAY.
FAMILY THINGS.
I'LL BE IN AND OUT.
AFTER LUNCH, I MAY NEED TO STEP OUT FOR STUFF.
IF I'M OUT A LOT, I'M TAKING CALLS WITH DOCTORS.
JUST FYI.
THAT'S ALL.
9:15:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TELL ME ABOUT 97.
9:15:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
97, LET ME TALK TO STAFF ON THAT.
FOR RIGHT NOW, YES, BUT LET ME TALK TO THEM AT LUNCH, IF I
MAY.
THANK YOU.
9:15:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DO WANT IN PERSON ON 96?
9:15:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU.
AGAIN, IF I'M HERE.
I'LL DEAL WITH IT WHEN IT COMES, BUT YEAH.
9:16:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG?
9:16:07AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M NOT GOING TO PULL IT.
BEFORE I MOVE SOME OF THE ITEMS ON CONSENT, I'M GOING TO SAY
SOMETHING BEFORE I MOVE THEM.
9:16:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S FINE.
JUST REMIND ME WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
9:16:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, WERE YOU GOING TO
SUMMARIZE WHERE YOU DON'T NEED PEOPLE?
9:16:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DID.
WHERE WERE YOU?
DID YOU BLANK OUT?
HAVE A MINISTROKE DURING THAT TIME?
9:16:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, BUT SOMETIMES, IF I CAN'T HEAR IT AND
IT HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY --
9:16:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:16:43AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:16:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, THE ONES YOU DON'T NEED THAT
NEED COUNCIL ACTION ON, ARE THERE ANY OF THOSE IN THERE AS
WELL, THE MAJOR TICKET ITEMS?
9:16:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC
COMMENT FOR THOSE.
9:16:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RIGHT.
AT THE END OF CONSENT.
9:16:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
9:16:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
9:17:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
TODAY'S AGENDA IS QUITE LONG AND COMPLICATED.
SO, CLERK, WE NEED TO ADHERE TO TIMERS AND RULES.
ANYBODY THAT IS SPEAKING, IF THEY COULD BE AS BRIEF AS
POSSIBLE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG AND
DRAWN-OUT AGENDA.
FYI, WE'LL TRY TO GET TO OFF AGENDA ITEM PUBLIC COMMENT A
LITTLE BIT EARLY, POSSIBLY AROUND 11:15.
I NEED TO -- WE HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION AT 11:30 AND A
HARD STOP AT 12.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE HOUR FOR LUNCH, 12 TO 1.
THOSE ARE FAIRLY RIGID BECAUSE OF CEREMONY THAT WE HAVE
DOWNSTAIRS.
THAT'S WHAT THE DAY WILL LOOK LIKE.
PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH ME AS I PUSH EVERYBODY ALONG.
AGAIN, IT IS A LONG AGENDA TODAY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
WORKING PARTS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING AND GOING THAT
THEIR TIMES ARE SET IN STONE.
CHIEF, DID YOU HAVE A REPORT TODAY?
9:18:03AM >> NO.
9:18:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
9:18:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO
REMOVE THAT.
I'LL DISCUSS THAT LATER.
ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:18:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE REMOVE IT NOW?
9:18:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I BELIEVE SO.
I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO AMEND, BUT WE ARE REMOVING.
9:18:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 3 FROM THE
AGENDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
9:18:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
9:18:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GET ON WITH THE COMMENDATIONS.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
AND WE'LL SET THE TIMERS ON EVERYBODY.
9:18:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TODAY I'M -- GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TODAY I'M PRESENTING A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA FENCING
ACADEMY, WHICH FENCING AS IN SWORD FIGHTING.
BECAUSE PEOPLE -- TO CLARIFY, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL SPORT.
I WAS TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN, I USED TO FENCE WHEN I WAS A
KID.
I WAS SAYING I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CONTINUE IT BECAUSE I WAS
GOOD.
I THINK I WAS GOOD.
I WAS 10, 11 YEARS OLD, BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW,
THE LESSONS THAT I LEARNED FROM THAT ERA I STILL REMEMBER
AND THEY STILL STICK WITH ME TODAY AND IT'S VERY GOOD
EXERCISE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, THIS ORGANIZATION, THEY ARE
RIGHT OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH, NEAR BERKELEY HIGH SCHOOL,
BERKELEY PREP, I'M SORRY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEY ARE THERE, BUT THEY HAVE
PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.
WHO ARE THE OLDEST PEOPLE?
IT'S FROM KIDS ALL THE WAY TO --
9:19:46AM >> VETERANS 80.
9:19:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S A GOOD EXERCISE.
TOTAL BODY MOVEMENT, HAND-EYE COORDINATION, A LOT OF GOOD
THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION TO YOU, THE TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL PROUDLY RECOGNIZES TAMPA FENCING ACADEMY FOR
OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SPORT OF FENCING AND ITS
COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPING DISCIPLINE, LEADERSHIP, AND
CHARACTER AMONG ATHLETES THROUGHOUT THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
THROUGH THE DEDICATION OF ITS COACHES AND FENCERS, ACADEMY
EARNED DISTINCTION AT THE LOCAL, NATIONAL, AND INTERNATIONAL
LEVELS.
TAMPA FENCING ACADEMY CELEBRATES EXCEPTIONAL ATHLETIC
ACHIEVEMENT INCLUDING 2026 USA FENCING NATIONAL CHAMPION AND
Y10 FA BEATA JUBILEE, CURRENTLY RANKED NUMBER ONE IN THE
NATION, AND NATIONAL MEDALIST JULIANNA URICHECK, CURRENTLY
RANKED NUMBER FIVE IN THE NATION.
WHO WAS RANKED NUMBER 16?
9:20:37AM >> WELL, MY SON IS 47th IN CADET IN THE NATION.
9:20:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE.
SERVING STUDENTS AGES 5 TO 65 AND EVEN A LITTLE BIT OLDER,
ACADEMY PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ATHLETES OF ALL AGES TO
PURSUE EXCELLENT AND REPRESENT TAMPA WITH PRIDE.
THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDS TAMPA FENCING ACADEMY, ITS
COACHES AND ATHLETES FOR DEDICATIONS, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND
POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
ACHIEVEMENTS BRING HONOR TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SERVE AS
AN INSPIRATION TO FUTURE GENERATIONS OF ATHLETES.
AND IT IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL'S PROFOUND HONOR TO PRESENT
THIS COMMENDATION ON THE 15th DAY OF OCTOBER, 2026.
CONGRATULATIONS.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:18AM >> I JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF COACH
ENRIQUE AND COACH BOYKO, WHO ARE OUR HEAD COACHES.
I'M ONE OF THE ASSOCIATE COACHES THAT, YES, FENCING HAS
BECOME A SPORT THAT IS FOR ALL AGES.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT TEACHES DISCIPLINE.
IT TEACHES HONOR.
IT TEACHES QUICK RECOVERY FROM MISTAKES.
I'M JUST PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE ORGANIZATION.
THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
9:21:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE?
9:21:44AM >> JOSHUA CORBIN.
9:21:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY, WE ARE VERY GLAD THAT YOU ARE
TRAINING THESE FOLKS SO WHEN THE DARK LORD COMES AND THEY
START ATTACKING THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THE DRAGONS COME,
WE'LL HAVE A FULLY TRAINED ARMY READY AND WILLING TO DEFEND
OUR GREAT CITY.
9:22:02AM >> YES, SIR, WE ARE READY.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
9:22:32AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
SO, TODAY, I HAVE THE HONOR OF PRESENTING THE COMMENDATION
TO LASHAUN TIMS.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS HONORED TO PRESENT THIS COMMENDATION
TO LASHAUN TIMS, CEO AND FOUNDER OF 813 STOP THE VIOLENCE.
LASHAUN IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR HER OUTSTANDING
CONTRIBUTIONS AS A ROLE MODEL, ADVOCATE, ICON, AND COMMUNITY
ADVOCATE -- COMMUNITY ACTIVIST IN THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMENDATION RECOGNIZES LASHAUN FOR HER DEDICATED
SERVICE AND REMARKABLE LEADERSHIP IN MENTORING THE YOUTH AND
FOR BEING AN INDIVIDUAL WHO REPRESENTS LONG-STANDING
DEDICATION TO UPLIFTING AND ADVOCATING FOR OUR LOCAL TAMPA
BAY YOUTH AND FOR INSPIRING FUTURE GENERATIONS THROUGH
SERVICE, GENEROSITY, AND POSITIVE LEADERSHIP.
LASHAUN'S WORK WITH THE TEEN TAKE-OVER INITIATIVES, SHE
HELPED TRANSFORM THE FUTURES OF NINE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO FACED
POTENTIALLY LIFE-ALTERING FELONY CONVICTIONS.
THROUGH HER EFFORTS OF HELPING SECURE A SIX-WEEK EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAM, SHE HELPED THESE TEENS HAVE THEIR RECORDS CLEARED
WHICH GAVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE AND ENSURE THAT ONE MOMENT
IN THEIR LIVES WOULD NOT DEFINE THE REST OF THEIR FUTURES.
MOREOVER, LASHAUN HAS BECOME A PILLAR OF STRENGTH AND
TRUSTED VOICE IN THE COMMUNITY AS SHE SERVES AS A SOURCE OF
GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT FOR MULTIPLE FAMILIES, NAVIGATING SOME
OF THEIR MOST DIFFICULT MOMENTS.
WHEN GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTS A FAMILY, LASHAUN IS SOMEONE THEY
KNOW THEY CAN TURN TO AND NOT ONLY FOR ANSWERS, BUT FOR
COMPASSION, STRENGTH, AND HOPE.
HER WORK REFLECTS THE VERY BEST OF OUR COMMUNITY.
IN GRATITUDE TO SUCH GREAT EFFORTS, IT IS WITH GREAT
PLEASURE THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS
COMMENDATION ON THIS 15th DAY OF OCTOBER, 2026, TO LASHAUN
TIMS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:31AM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
FIRST, I WILL GIVE HONOR TO GOD.
NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT HIM.
RIGHT AFTER THANKING GOD, MY HEAVENLY MOTHER, MAMA, THANK
YOU FOR TEACHING ME IT'S OKAY TO LOVE.
OKAY TO CARE ABOUT PEOPLE EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM.
THAT LESSON LIVES IN ME AND LIVES IN THE WORK I DO EVERY
DAY.
TO MY WIFE AND MY FAMILY, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH THE
COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING THE LONG DAYS, THE PHONE CALLS,
THE CRIES, THE PAIN, AND ALL THE TIMES MY HEART WAS OUT
THERE TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE.
IT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN EASY AND I LOVE YOU FOR STANDING
BESIDE ME.
MY ENTIRE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR DEALING WITH ME AND MY
ORDERS.
I HAVE A VISION.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO TURN THAT VISION INTO ACTION.
THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
THANK YOU TO MS. DARLENE FOR ALWAYS ANSWERING THE CALLS.
THANK YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THIS MOMENT TO SHARE
THIS JOURNEY.
I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK TO 2014.
I WANT TO THANK MY MENTOR, STATE REP HART-LOWMAN, FOR
SETTING THE STONE FOR 813 STOP THE VIOLENCE.
THANK YOU TO KENYA ROBINSON FOR ALLOWING ME TO KEEP HER SON
NAME ALIVE.
NICO CRAWFORD WAS MURDERED IN 2014.
THANK YOU FOR THE PLANS.
THANK YOU FOR THE WALK.
THAT WALK MATTERED.
ONE TIME, THE WORK BECAME EVEN MORE PERSONAL.
I MET FAMILIES LIVING WITH GRIEF.
I MET CHILDREN WHO NEEDED GUIDANCE, ATTENTION, HOPE.
I SAW SO MUCH NEED, KINDNESS, AND CONSISTENCY.
THIS WASN'T JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO ANYMORE.
IT WAS SOMETHING I KNEW I WAS CALLED TO DO.
2025, I MADE 813 STOP THE VIOLENCE A NONPROFIT.
THE PAPER WORK DIDN'T MAKE THE MISSION.
THE MISSION WAS ALREADY IN MOTION.
BECOMING A NONPROFIT GAVE THE WORK ANOTHER WAY TO GROW.
813 STOP THE VIOLENCE TOUR.
WE GO TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND BRING UNITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE CREATE SPACES WHERE CHILDREN CAN LAUGH, PLAY GAMES, ROLE
MODELS AND FEEL SAFE.
WE CONNECT THE FAMILIES, RESOURCES AND REMINDED PEOPLE THAT
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MATTERED.
THANK YOU FREDDY WITH SAFE AND SOUND.
IT DON'T MATTER ABOUT THE GIVEAWAYS.
IT'S ABOUT THE CONVERSATION WE HAPPEN TO HAVE WHEN WE ARE
THERE.
IT'S LOOKING CHILDREN IN THE EYES AND SAYING, I SEE YOU AND
TELLING PARENTS YOU'RE NOT ALONE.
I STAND HERE PRETENDING THAT I DON'T -- THAT I HAVE ALL THE
ANSWERS, BUT I DON'T.
I CAN KNOW THAT I CANNOT COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND
THEN REFUSE TO WORK FOR CHANGE.
OUR CHILDREN ARE WATCHING.
THEY NEED TO SEE ADULTS WHO KEEP THEIR WORD, SHOW UP, AND
BELIEVE IN THEIR FUTURE.
I'M GOING TO KEEP SHOWING UP.
I'M GOING TO KEEP BUILDING PARTNERSHIP.
I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS TOUR INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M GOING TO KEEP WORKING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND FAMILIES.
TO ALL THE ANGEL MOMS AND EVERY PARENT WHO LOST THEIR CHILD
TO GUN VIOLENCE, YOUR PAIN IS NOT FORGOTTEN.
YOUR CHILDREN MATTER.
THEIR LIVES ARE WHY THIS WORK MUST CONTINUE.
EVERY SPONSOR, VOLUNTEER, BOARD MEMBER, COMMUNITY PARTNER
AND FAMILY MEMBER WHO SUPPORTED 813 STOP THE VIOLENCE, INC.,
THANK YOU.
ONCE AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG, THANK YOU FOR SEEING
THE WORK AND RECOGNIZING PEOPLE BEHIND IT.
THIS AWARD IS NOT JUST FOR ME.
IT BELONGS TO MY FAMILY.
THANK YOU, TO EVERY CHILD, TO EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED 813
STOP THE VIOLENCE.
I STARTED 813 IN 2014.
I MADE IT A NONPROFIT IN 2025.
HERE I STAND IN 2026 TELLING YOU WE ARE JUST GETTING
STARTED.
THE WORK CONTINUES, THE TOUR CONTINUES, THE MISSION
CONTINUES.
WE REACH ONE, TEACH ONE, SAVE ONE.
NO MORE SILENCE.
813 STOP THE VIOLENCE, INC., IS MORE THAN AN ORGANIZATION.
IT IS A MOVEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
THANK YOU.
LASHAUN TIMS.
9:28:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THANK
YOU.
I WAS AT I THINK YOUR FIRST OR SECOND EVENT.
IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
DIANNE HART, MAYBE ROBIN LOCKETT.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHO WAS WITH ME.
IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.
I THINK YOU DO EXCELLENT WORK.
HI TO YOUR WIFE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE OF A TREMENDOUS EFFORT FOR
OUR CITY.
COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AND FOLKS THAT HAVE INTEREST IN OUR
YOUTH THAT REALLY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN WHAT TOMORROW
WILL LOOK LIKE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:29:01AM >> THANK YOU, TOO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF MY STAFF COULD BRING IN OUR PUBLIC
COMMENT CARDS, PLEASE.
AS ALWAYS, WE'LL START WITH ON-AGENDA ITEM PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'LL CALL YOUR NAME.
I'LL CALL A COUPLE AT A TIME SO YOU CAN QUEUE UP AND WE CAN
EXPEDITE THE PROCESS THIS MORNING.
REMEMBER, ALWAYS START WITH YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THE LIGHT WILL COME ON.
IT WILL BE GREEN.
IT WILL TURN YELLOW WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
RED, YOU HAVE TO STOP SPEAKING.
THE FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER WILL BE MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO
FOLLOWED BY PAM CANNELLA AND ASHLEY MORROW.
GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE.
9:30:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I'M HERE ON AGENDA 62 AND 30.
LET ME START OFF WITH 30.
THEY DID A GRANT FOR DREDGING.
WE NEED DREDGING DESPERATELY ON WEST PRESCOTT.
I'VE BEEN TOLD SEVERAL TIMES WE'RE WAITING FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.,
WE'RE WAITING FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.
S.W.F.W.M.D. HAS NO APPLICATION FROM STORMWATER TO DREDGE
THE TRENCHES AND OUTFLOW.
MY WATER IS COLLECTING.
WE NEED HELP.
WE NEED HELP OVER THERE.
FLOOD INSURANCE IS SO EXPENSIVE OVER THERE.
MY TAXES ARE SO HIGH, WHAT AM I PAYING FOR?
I'M NOT PAYING -- I DON'T GET A SWEEPER.
I DON'T GET NOTHING IN MY AREA.
I DON'T HAVE NOT ONE THING.
AND I'M PAYING PROPERTY TAXES PROBABLY MORE THAN MANY PEOPLE
IN MY AREA, AND I HAVE NOTHING.
MY SYSTEM WORKS OFF OF GRAVITY, SO IT HAS TO BE PULLED OUT.
IT'S NOT BEING PULLED OUT.
IT'S STUCK.
AND WATER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE WORKING ON WATER, AND THEY
SAY THERE IS A BLOCKAGE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OUR WATER DON'T
MOVE.
AND THAT'S ALSO VERY HAZARDOUS TO OUR HEALTH.
IT SMELLS LIKE POOP IN OUR AREA.
IT'S VERY BAD.
WE NEED HELP.
SOUTH SHERRILL AND WEST PRESCOTT.
TRENCHES THAT GO TO THE OUTFLOW.
SOMETHING IS GOING ON THERE.
I'LL TALK ABOUT 62.
THIS MONEY, THIS $708 MILLION MONEY FOR REBUILD TOMORROW,
I'M ON THE LIST.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE FUNDING BECAUSE THE FUNDING ONLY HAS
DONE ONE HOUSE SO FAR AND THE HOUSE IS A MODULE HOME.
IT'S A MOBILE HOME.
I SEE IT IS ALSO ALLOCATED TO OTHER THINGS, STREETS,
INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF.
SO THIS $708 MILLION OF MONEY, IT'S BEEN FIVE MONTHS
ALREADY.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MONEY AND HOW
ARE THEY GOING TO HELP PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME REALLY
NEED IT AND MY AREA, YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY A HOUSE IN MY AREA
BECAUSE THE FLOODING IS TOO EXPENSIVE, THE INSURANCE, AND
THAT'S NOT FAIR FOR PEOPLE.
WE NEED HELP IN OUR AREA.
I HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY DO HELP
US.
PORT TAMPA IS NOT A RICH AREA.
AND THAT AREA NEEDS A LOT OF HELP.
I FEEL THAT WE HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN.
I THINK THAT IT'S TIME TO HELP US MOVING FORWARD FOR 2027.
THANK YOU.
9:33:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
PAM CANNELLA FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY.
9:33:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I OPPOSE NUMBER 6 APPOINTEE.
APPOINTMENTS FOR TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY RECOMMENDS INITIAL
APPOINTMENT BE USUALLY ONE-YEAR TERM.
APPLICATION FOR THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY ALSO STATES THAT
APPOINTMENT TO A CITY OF TAMPA BOARD AND COMMITTEE REQUIRES
COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ETHICS CODE AND FLORIDA
LAW CONCERNING APPOINTED OFFICIALS.
NOW, AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE BY OUR CITY ATTORNEYS THAT
JANET CRUZ RIFKIN IS NOT RELATED TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
BUT ANA CRUZ, BY HER OWN TESTIMONY, CONTINUOUSLY REFERS TO
HERSELF AS TAMPA'S FIRST LADY.
MAYOR JANE CASTOR REFERS TO ANA CRUZ AS HER DOMESTIC
PARTNER.
AS PUBLIC FIGURES WHO HAVE BEEN IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP
SINCE APPROXIMATELY 2009, THEY ARE RECOGNIZED AS DOMESTIC
PARTNERS IN PUBLIC AND OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
ANA CRUZ'S ACKNOWLEDGMENT AS TAMPA'S FIRST LADY AND DOMESTIC
PARTNER TO MAYOR JANE CASTOR MAKES JANET CRUZ RIFKIN, MOTHER
OF ANA CRUZ, A FAMILY.
MAYOR JANE CASTOR'S APPOINTMENT OF JANET CRUZ RIFKIN TO A
CITY POSITION IS A VIOLATION OF FLORIDA STATE CODE OF ETHICS
UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 112.3135 WHERE PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE
PROHIBITED FROM USING THEIR OFFICIAL POSITION TO SECURE
SPECIAL PRIVILEGES FROM WHOM THEY SHARE A CLOSE PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP, REGARDLESS OF MARRIAGE STATUS.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT NUMBER 30, IT'S ABOUT THE
STORMWATER FUNDING.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW DO I GET ON THAT LIST BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN ASKING FOR THE AMI AND THE ZOM POND AND THE PALMIRA
DITCH TO BE CLEANED AND TAKEN CARE OF.
SO IF THERE'S FUNDING OUT THERE, I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE
ON THE LIST AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
9:35:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, PAM.
ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY JOHN GREEN AND BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
9:35:39AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
I SEE YOU GUYS MOVED ITEM 50 ANYWAYS.
IT WAS ABOUT THE ARENA PARKING AGREEMENT.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR VALIDATING PUBLIC PARKING
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR CITY COUNCIL PARTICIPANTS OR ATTENDEES
AS WELL AS SCHOOL BOARD.
ANYBODY COMING DOWN FOR CITY BUSINESS SHOULD NOT BE PAYING
FOR PARKING IF THEY ARE COMING TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY -- I'M DRAWING A BLANK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
9:36:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
GOOD MORNING.
JOHN AND THEN BISHOP.
SWITCH PLACES?
ARE YOU SWITCHING PLACES?
9:36:19AM >> ACTUALLY, I WAS FIRST.
YEAH, THEY GOT MIXED UP.
NO PROBLEM.
GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 15.
IF I RECALL, THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE
NAACP WAS FOR THE EMPOWERMENT CENTER, AND THAT THEY WERE
SUPPOSED TO DO WORK THAT WOULD HELP SMALL BUSINESSES.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT OUT INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY
ABOUT WHAT THE CITY HAD TO OFFER.
MOST OF ALL, IT WAS ABOUT JOB TRAINING.
NOW I SEE A RESOLUTION THAT WAS SENT OUT.
SAYS RESOLUTION APPROVING A SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND
SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, NAACP,
WHICH IS A NONPROFIT.
IT WAS EFFECTIVE DATE SEPTEMBER 1st, 2026, AND WORK WAS
SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER THE 30th,
'26.
NOW, HOW MUCH -- NOW IT'S FOR 75,000 INSTEAD OF 100,000.
THE PRESIDENT YVETTE LEWIS DID NOT SIGN THIS AGREEMENT UNTIL
SEPTEMBER THE 14.
IT SEEMS ALMOST LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH BECAUSE THE
EMPOWERMENT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT TRAINING.
NOW WE'RE GETTING OVER HERE TALKING ABOUT ARTS AND FUNDING
WHEN WE HAVE THE YOUNG LADY WHO JUST LEFT, IF WE'RE GOING TO
PUT MONEY IN HISTORIC PEOPLE THAT'S GIVING THE HISTORY, THEN
ASHLEY MORROW, I THINK THE 75,000, SOME OF THE MONEY SHOULD
GO TO HER.
FRED HEARNS WHO DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AS HISTORIAN GOING
THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, EVEN DO TRIPS.
ALSO URSULA ODOM.
NOW WHY IS IT -- I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME RECEIPTS SUPPOSED
TO HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL WHERE WORK SUPPOSED TO
HAVE BEEN DONE.
I AM MAKING A PUBLIC REQUEST BECAUSE THERE ARE STRICT
STIPULATIONS IN THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW NOW IF YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO, LIKE I SAY,
BAIT AND SWITCH BY DOING THINGS FOR THE ARTS AND TELLING
HISTORY, THAT WAS NOT A PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
THE AGREEMENT WAS THE JOB TRAINING.
THE AGREEMENT WAS TO HELP DO AN IMPACT TO HELP BUSINESSES,
SMALL BUSINESSES THAT NEEDED HELP, ACCESSING THE CITY
GOVERNMENT.
I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WATCHING THIS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT VERY STRICTLY, STRONGLY, AND IT SHOULD
NOT BE JUST A GENERIC.
SUPPOSED TO BE ANNOUNCEMENTS MADE TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE
CLASSES WOULD HAVE BEEN HELD.
WE WANT TO SEE IF IT WAS HELD BY A CERTIFIED PERSON, NOT
JUST FRIENDSHIP.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT IS WRONG WITH THIS AND
TOOK A WHOLE YEAR.
WE HAVE A NEW FISCAL YEAR THAT THEY COME UP AT THIS LAST
MINUTE AND TRYING TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION.
SO THE DOCUMENTATION EVERY I NEED TO BE DOTTED, EVERY T
CROSSED FOR ONE PENNY OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY GO OUT FOR THIS.
YOU'RE ASKING NOT TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT 3.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE WASTEFUL WITH THE TAXPAYER MONEY,
THEN PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER THOUGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:39:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JOHN GREEN FOLLOWED BY STEPHEN MICHELINI
AND MEGAN.
9:39:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOHN GREEN.
I'M JUST HERE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY
SAID.
I LOOK AT MORE THE PROCEDURE AND PROCESSES ON HOW PEOPLE ARE
LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY OVER THERE AT GARY ADULT SCHOOL.
THE FIRST PAGE YOU'RE SEEING IN WHICH YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS
FOR THE SCHOOL LISTED ON YOUR DOCUMENTATION, THIS IS THE
FIRST PAGE IS FROM THE SCHOOL CHARTER AND BYLAWS.
IT SAYS THAT THE DISTRICT OR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM MAIL SYSTEM
IS NOT USED BY THE COMMUNITY OR STAFF FOR DISTRIBUTION OF
NONSCHOOL MATERIALS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT IS THE BYLAWS FOR THE SCHOOL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH TAXPAYER MONEY AND
GOVERNMENT FUNDING, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE FOLLOW
THE LAWS, TOO.
I DON'T THINK NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW WHERE THEY CAN
DISREGARD POLICY AND GET MONEY FOR BREAKING THE LAW AT THE
SAME TIME.
THE SECOND PAGE SHOWS WHERE THEY ARE LISTED.
YOU CAN GOOGLE IN REAL TIME RIGHT NOW, THE ADDRESS OF GARY
ADULT SCHOOL OR GOOGLE HILLSBOROUGH NAACP, AND THIS WILL
COME UP.
THE SCHOOL, LIKE I SAID, THE INFORMATION IS RIGHT THERE.
THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USING THAT ADDRESS.
THE CITY IS USING THE ADDRESS TO SEND MAIL THERE.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
THE NAACP HAS BYLAWS FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION.
IT SAYS THAT EACH OF THEIR EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE
BONDED.
HAVE YOU ALL GOTTEN ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE
BONDED?
HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY INSURANCE CERTIFICATES SAYING THAT THEY
COVER, IF ANYBODY GET HURT OR ANYTHING HAPPENS ON THE
PROPERTY.
THIS IS JUST SIMPLE LAW.
I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.
LIKE EVERYBODY IS CONTEMPLATING IN THEIR MIND WITH THIS NEW
TAX BILL, SHOULD WE FUND GOVERNMENT, WHY SHOULD WE IF YOU
ARE GIVING AWAY MONEY WHERE WE KNOW THE BLACK COMMUNITY
KNOWS THAT THE NAACP -- THE NAACP HILLSBOROUGH CHAPTER DOES
ZERO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
PERIOD.
POINT-BLANK.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK US FOR MONEY TO FUND THE
GOVERNMENT, IF YOU BLACK IN THIS COMMUNITY, SAY NO, BECAUSE
IT'S USELESS.
9:42:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STEVEN, FOLLOWED BY MEGAN, FOLLOWED BY
CONNIE BURTON.
9:42:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
STEVE MICHELINI.
I REALLY WANT TO START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18 WHERE YOU
ARE ASKING -- THE STAFF IS ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN TREE
FEES FROM 300 TO 475 DOLLARS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE WHERE THE STEWARDSHIP OF
THOSE FUNDS AND THE ABILITY TO GET TREES PLANTED HAS BEEN
SIGNIFICANTLY DELINQUENT.
AND THOSE FEES ARE COLLECTED BECAUSE PROJECTS, VARIOUS
HOUSING PROJECTS AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS PAY INTO THAT FUND.
AND THERE IS A VERY LARGE SURPLUS.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU HAVE A SURPLUS IN FUNDS, WHY
ARE YOU ASKING FOR AN INCREASE?
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A TREE PLANTED.
THE PROCESS IS ENCUMBERED WITH A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS OF
SIGNING AGREEMENTS, GUARANTEEING THAT YOU'LL MAINTAIN THE
TREE.
IF YOU DON'T MAINTAIN THE TREE AND IT DIES, THEN YOU HAVE TO
PAY THE CITY BACK.
IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME.
I KNOW THE COUNCIL HAS MADE MOTIONS PREVIOUSLY TO STREAMLINE
THAT PROCESS, TO GET THE TREES OUT INSTEAD OF BANKING THEM
AND TO START USING THOSE FUNDS.
I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN, BUT I THINK THE LAST ACCOUNTING OF THAT
BUDGET WAS THERE WAS $3 MILLION SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT THAT
HADN'T BEEN SPENT.
SO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.
ALLOW THE TREES TO BE PLANTED WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
PLANTED.
GRANTED, I GOT THE PICTURE.
COSTS HAVE RISEN 300 TO 475.
THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
STEWARDSHIP IS THE ISSUE.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE A FEE, THEN MAKE IT EASIER TO GET
THOSE TREES PLANTED AND STOP MAKING THE PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY
MORE MONEY SO YOU BUILD UP A RESERVE FUND AND IT DOESN'T GO
ANYWHERE.
ITEM 67, IT REFERS TO GRANT FUNDS BEING TRANSFERRED, AND
USED FOR VARIOUS COMPONENTS.
I WOULD THINK THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT MORE INFORMATION
INSTEAD OF A STATEMENT THAT SAYS VARIOUS COMPONENTS.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE HAVE CITYWIDE ISSUES REGARDING STORMWATER, AND THEY
SHOULD CLEARLY DEFINE WHERE THEY PLAN TO USE THAT MONEY.
AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE ALREADY SAID TO YOU, THEIR AREA IS
DEFICIENT.
THEY ASKED FOR CLEANUP.
THEY HAVE ASKED FOR MAINTENANCE.
DIRECT IT TOWARD WHERE IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE IN THESE AREAS
THAT ARE SCREAMING FOR HELP.
THANK YOU.
9:45:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, STEPHEN.
MEGAN CORCORAN.
FOLLOWED BY CONNIE, FOLLOWED BY POYNOR.
9:45:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MEGAN COCHRAN.
REGARDING ITEM 60, APPROVING THE FINAL BENEFITS AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE JC NEWMAN, AS MADAM CHAIR
OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR THE SANCHEZ Y
HAYA PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE
TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK AND
COMMITMENT FOR REVIEWING THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT FOR THE SANCHEZ Y HAYA PROJECT AND ENSURING THEY
ARE ALIGNED WITH THE PROJECT'S ESTABLISHED RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK AMANDA ALAFARA, JAVIER
MARLON FROM THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
FOR THEIR WORK, FOR WORKING WITH US, ENSURE THAT OUR
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IMPLEMENTED.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR LEGAL TEAM TAYLOR BOLLT.
THANK YOU.
EXTEND APPRECIATION TO OUR VICE-CHAIR HEATHER HAY AS WELL AS
JOE ROBINSON, KIMBERLY HEADLAND, DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ANGELA
WELLER, AND CAMERON CASSIDY FOR THEIR TIME, DEDICATION, AND
THOUGHTFUL CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK MR. DREW NEWMAN, HIM AND HIS FAMILY
FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE BENEFITS COMMUNITY AGREEMENT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND YOUR
SHARED VISION OF MAKING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD A BETTER PLACE TO
LIVE, WORK, AND THRIVE.
ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY COUNCIL, THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COMMITMENT, AND DEDICATION TO THE SANCHEZ
Y HAYA PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
9:47:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MEGAN.
9:47:12AM >> I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR
APPROVING MY APPLICATION FOR THE CAC FOR MY APPLICATION FOR
THE CAC MEMBER FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
THANK YOU.
9:47:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MEGAN.
CONGRATULATIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AS WELL.
9:47:27AM >> THANK YOU.
9:47:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CONNIE, FOLLOWED BY POYNOR, FOLLOWED BY
SURGRET.
9:47:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
CONNIE BURTON.
WHEN I WAS A CHILD, IT WAS CERTAIN PROGRAMS I THOUGHT WAS
FUNNY, LIKE THE THREE STOOGES, MAYBE SOME LAUREL AND HARDY.
AS I GOT OLDER, IT BECOME REDUNDANT TO HEAR THE SAME OL'
SAME OL' EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH ABOUT AN OUTSTANDING CIVIL
RIGHTS ORGANIZATION THAT HAS HISTORY OF DOING THE WORK.
WE WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AS TO THE FORMAT WHICH IT IS
WRITTEN.
NOT NAACP THAT WROTE THAT.
MAYBE MR. BENNETT AND OTHERS CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT WE ARE A CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION THAT DO NOT GET THAT
MONEY, BUT THE EMPOWERMENT CENTER THAT IS SO NEEDED IN OUR
COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ENTREPRENEURSHIP, TO CONTINUE
TO BUILD ON THE LEGACY OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
WE ARE COMMITTED IN SPITE OF THE LOW-KEY RHETORIC THAT WE
HEAR CONSTANTLY ABOUT WHY WE SHOULDN'T.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO STANDING IN THAT LEGACY OF OVER A
HUNDRED YEARS OLD AND DOING THE PEOPLE'S WORK, AND A
COMMITMENT, AND I WOULD SAY NOT JUST A COMMITMENT, BUT AN
ENDORSEMENT OF THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN THE NAACP IS ALWAYS
SHOWN BY OUR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP FOLLOWED BY THE ANNUAL
BANQUET THAT HAD WELL OVER 1200 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.
SO TWO OR THREE NAME SAYERS THAT CONTINUE TO COME UP HERE
AND GURGITATE FOOLISHNESS SPEAKS TO THEIR DISCONNECT FROM
THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:49:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, CONNIE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:49:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, NO.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
STEPHANIE POYNOR FOLLOWED BY SURGRET AND JULIE MAGILL.
9:49:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
APPOINTMENTS THREE THROUGH FIVE.
NONE OF THEM ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THREE YEARS.
NOBODY IS GUARANTEED TO BE SIGNATURE UP THERE OR IN THE
MAYOR'S OFFICE SEVEN MONTHS FROM NOW.
AND NO -- NOTHING -- I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD PUT THEM IN
THERE FOR A YEAR BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THE FOLKS TIME
TO SETTLE IN AND FIGURE OUT WHO THEY WANT IN THOSE
POSITIONS.
YOU GUYS HAVE ZERO POWER TO PUT SOMEBODY ELSE.
THE PERSON COMING IN BEHIND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THEM
OUT AND PUT IN THEIR PERSON.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
THIS IS SPEAKING NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH I
AGREE WITH PAM ABOUT ONE OF THEM.
BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS.
THIS HAS BEEN CONSTANT OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
NUMBER 15, NAACP.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING $100,000.
WHERE DID THE REST OF THE MONEY GO?
AS A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM GET
ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY HAD APPLIED FOR AND THAT YOU GUYS
HAD SET ASIDE FOR THEM.
WHEN YOU GET KICKED OUT OF A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR THE
REST OF YOUR LIFE, I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO COME AND CRY
ABOUT IT PUBLICLY ALL THE TIME.
49, 91, 92, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMED WITH
$8 MILLION WORTH OF CONSULTATION FEES IN ONE FELL SWOOP.
THE CDB-DR FUNDING, I OFTEN HEAR, IT'S FUNNY, YES, I LIVE IN
SOUTH TAMPA, YOU KNOW, I CARE ABOUT ALL THE DISTRICTS IN OUR
CITY.
I REALLY DO.
I OFTEN HEAR THAT THE CITY DOESN'T -- THEY
DISPROPORTIONATELY SPEND MONEY ON DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
SO I BROKE IT DOWN BY THE DISTRICTS WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE
GOING TO BE.
PUMP STATION UPGRADES, WHICH I COMPLETELY SUPPORT.
CHECK THAT WITH THE LIST OF THE BASINS AND SEE WHICH ONES
FLOODED.
15 IN DISTRICT 5.
FIVE IN DISTRICT 6.
FIVE IN DISTRICT 7.
TWO OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT 4 WHICH I SUPPORT BECAUSE WE
JUST GAVE THEM A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR A STORMWATER
PROJECT, AND THIS IS OKAY WITH ME.
TPD, TWO FOR TFR.
IT'S A TOTAL OF ALMOST $74 MILLION.
I REALLY HAVE A HUGE ISSUE WITH THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
RAYS AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO GIVE THEM $30
MILLION OF THAT.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT NIFTY LITTLE MAP THAT FEMA MADE, THERE
WASN'T ANY PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA.
YES, THIS IS ON THE BUDGET -- THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.
CHARTER REVIEW, CONTINUE AS A COHESIVE GROUP.
YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A FABULOUS JOB WITH THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MAYOR PARTICIPATE IN THE
CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE MOMENT.
9:52:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MS. POYNOR.
GOOD MORNING, MR. DOSS.
9:52:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
SURGRET DOSS.
I'M HERE ON ITEMS 87 THROUGH 89, THE PEREGRINE THING.
I WANT PEOPLE TO REMEMBER, THAT MONEY CAME AFTER 2023
SHOOTING IN YBOR CITY.
THE LEGISLATURE FUNDED A CRIME PREVENTION INITIATIVE THAT'S
SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO FAR THAT MONEY HAS BOUGHT DRONES AND NOW $595,000 DATA
PLATFORM FROM A COMPANY FOUNDED BY PALANTIR ALUM.
SAME KIND OF PLATFORM OTHER FLORIDA AGENCIES ARE BUYING AND
USING FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
TPD OWN AUGUST 4 MEMO DOESN'T MENTION YBOR OR COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT OR THE CITY OF TAMPA AS A MATTER.
SAYS THAT TPD NEEDS PEREGRINE TO SHARE LAW ENFORCEMENT
INFORMATION ACROSS STATE AGENCIES.
TO ME, THIS THING SEEMS TO BE MORE LIKE A STATEWIDE DATA
PIPELINE AND THE PEOPLE OF YBOR CITY -- WELL, TAMPA, USE AS
JUSTIFICATION FOR GETTING THIS THING FUNDED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS, YOU ALL ASKED FOR A BRIEFING
FROM THE ACTING CHIEF AND SET THIS ITEM I BELIEVE FOR
NOVEMBER 5.
THEN IT WAS MOVED UP TO TODAY AT YOUR ALL'S REQUEST OR
STAFF'S REQUEST.
WHEN THE PEOPLE'S ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ASK FOR TIME,
STAFF DOES NOT GET TO DECIDE IF THAT TIME IS UP.
CONSIDER THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU TO DO THEIR -- DO A JOB
FOR THEM AND LOOK OUT FOR THEM.
FOR MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW A POLICE REPORT IS
THE ONLY -- ONLY AS TRUE AS THE OFFICER WHO WROTE IT.
WHEN A FALSE REPORT GOES INTO A STATEWIDE SYSTEM, IT DOESN'T
STAY IN TAMPA.
FOLLOWS A PERSON INTO EVERY AGENCY THAT PULLS IT.
IF IT'S WRONG, WHO CORRECTS IT?
BY THE WAY, WHO IS GOING TO AUDIT THIS THING.
TALK ABOUT THE IG THING A LITTLE BIT LATER.
BEFORE YOU VOTE, GET ANSWERS ON THE RECORD.
WHO IS GOING TO GET THE SHARED DATA AND LET THE PEOPLE KNOW.
ALSO, WE NEED TO KNOW IF IT REACHES ANY KIND OF FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, HOW LONG IT'S KEPT AND WHO AUDITS
IT AFTER THAT.
WHAT POLICY GOVERNS IT AND HAS THE PUBLIC SEEN THIS THING.
IF THOSE ANSWERS ARE ON THE RECORD TODAY, THE -- DEFER THE
ITEM TO AT LEAST NOVEMBER 5, THE DATE YOU ALL ORIGINALLY
CHOSE.
A COMMUNITY THAT WAS PROMISED ENGAGEMENT DESERVES THE
BENEFIT OF SUCH CONSIDERATION.
TAMPA'S RESIDENTS SHOULDN'T BE FUNDING ANYTHING THAT MIGHT
BE A POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS, OKAY, LET'S
KEEP THAT IN MIND.
I SAY THAT AS A VETERAN.
SHOUT-OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO MAY BE IN HARM'S WAY WHO WEARS A
UNIFORM.
SHOUT-OUT TO -- UNITED STATES AND SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST
INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE
UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
SPEAKING OF TECH, ONE OF THE GREATEST AND MOST DYNAMIC
ATHLETES I'VE EVER KNOWN, HILLS, FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE.
GREAT TECH ALUMNI.
LET'S PRAY FOR THE BROTHER.
9:55:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SURGRET.
JULIE, BRING IT HOME.
9:55:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
JULIE MAGILL.
ALSO CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR.
I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 90.
HERE'S WHAT THIS MEANS IN PLAIN ENGLISH.
TAMPA HAS AGREED TO PUT $80 MILLION TOWARD PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS, RAYS BALLPARK.
TODAY'S VOTE STARTS THE COURT APPROVAL PROCESS FOR BORROWING
UP TO THAT AMOUNT.
RESIDENTS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS $80 MILLION BORROWED IS
MORE THAN $80 MILLION PAID BACK.
AT THE INTEREST RATE AND 30-YEAR REPAYMENT PERIOD USED IN
THE PUBLISHED ANALYSIS, THE TOTAL WOULD BE ABOUT 140
MILLION.
THIS IS AN ESTIMATE.
IT'S NOT A FINAL PRICE, BUT INTEREST IS A REAL COST AND
RESIDENTS DESERVE TO SEE IT.
WE ARE TOLD TAXES FROM FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WILL HELP REPAY
THE CITY.
BUT THE BILLS COULD ARRIVE YEARS BEFORE ENOUGH MONEY COMES
IN.
THE PUBLISHED MODEL SHOWS LOAN PAYMENTS STARTING IN 2027.
THE TARGET FORECAST DEVELOPMENT REVENUE STARTS IN 2031 BUT
DOES NOT COVER THE FULL YEARLY PAYMENT UNTIL 2045.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
THE CITY WOULD HAVE BILLS TO PAY EVERY YEAR WHILE WAITING
FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHO COVERS THAT GAP?
IF THIS DEAL PAYS FOR ITSELF, SHOW US WHO PAYS IT UNTIL IT
DOES.
IF I TAKE OUT A LOAN, I CAN'T TELL THE BANK, OH, MY FUTURE
BUSINESS IS GOING TO COVER THAT.
THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'M MAKING RIGHT NOW,
HOW I'LL PAY IT RIGHT NOW.
TAMPA SHOULD DO THE SAME.
WHICH CITY DOLLARS WILL MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS?
WHAT OTHER PROJECTS COULD BE DELAYED?
WHO PAYS IF THE DEVELOPMENT TAKES LONGER OR BRINGS IN LESS
MONEY?
THE FINANCING HAS A TECHNICAL NAME.
NON-AD VALOREM BONDS.
THAT MEANS LOAN RELIES ON REVENUES OTHER THAN PROPERTY
TAXES.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS NO COST TO THE PUBLIC.
BEFORE MOVING THIS FORWARD, PLEASE GIVE RESIDENTS A SIMPLE
YEAR-BY-YEAR REPAYMENT PLAN.
SHOW US LOAN PAYMENTS, EXPECTED DEVELOPMENT REVENUE AND
EXACTLY WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM WHENEVER THERE IS A
SHORTFALL.
IF THE RAYS ARE REQUIRED TO COVER THE SHORTFALL, SHOW US
THAT, TOO.
IF THEY ARE NOT, SAY SO CLEARLY.
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NEED FLOOD PROTECTION, SAFE STREETS, AND
RELIABLE SERVICES TODAY.
$80 MILLION COMMITMENT DESERVES MORE THAN A FORECAST.
IT DESERVES A CLEAR EXPLANATION OF WHO PAYS HOW MUCH AND
WHEN.
NECESSITY BEFORE VANITY.
TRANSPARENCY BEFORE ANOTHER FINANCIAL COMMITMENT.
THANK YOU.
9:57:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, JULIE.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR IN-PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKING ON JAN ITEMS.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE.
MICHAEL RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, WE MISS YOU.
WE HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU NEXT WEEK.
WE'LL CONTINUE ON WITH OUR AGENDA BOARD ADMINISTRATION
APPOINTMENTS.
OUR FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 4.
I SEE ROBIN LOCKETT.
ROBIN, WOULD YOU LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK?
9:58:25AM >> YOU DIDN'T GET A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD FROM ME?
9:58:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DID NOT.
DID YOU FILL ONE OUT?
9:58:31AM >> YEAH.
9:58:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU KNOW WHAT, I BELIEVE THAT IS PROBABLY
CORRECT.
GO AHEAD, START WITH YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
STAFF, IF YOU COULD FIND ROBIN'S CARD AND BRING IT IN FOR
ME, PLEASE.
9:58:46AM >> NO, IT WAS OFF AGENDA.
9:58:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT COMES LATER.
9:58:50AM >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
9:58:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DISREGARD ALL OF THE ABOVE.
WOULD YOU LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT YOUR
APPOINTMENT?
9:58:55AM >> YES, I WOULD.
9:59:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
9:59:02AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
I WROTE SOMETHING OUT SO I CAN BE --
I WANT TO THANK MAYOR CASTOR FOR THE APPOINTMENT.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THE SUPPORT ALSO.
JUST PLACING THE CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN ME BY APPOINTING ME
TO THE HARTLINE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS
PERSONALLY DEPENDED ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, I UNDERSTAND
FIRSTHAND HOW IMPORTANT RELIABLE, AFFORDABLE, AND ACCESSIBLE
TRANSIT -- TRANSPORTATION IS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING BOTH MY LIVED EXPERIENCES AND MY
YEARS OF COMMUNITY ADVOCACY TO THE TABLE ENSURING THAT THE
VOICES OF EVERYDAY RIDERS ARE HEARD AND REPRESENTED.
I TAKE THIS POSITION AS ANY POSITION I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY.
AS I STATED, I USED TO CATCH BUSES TO WORK TO MAKE A LIFE
FOR MYSELF AND MY THEN YOUNG SON.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE.
IT WOULD BE A LEARNING STAGE FOR ME TO GET A GOOD
UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M NOT SHY TO SPEAK OUT IN REGARDS TO
SPEAKING FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THAT SIT
AROUND THE TABLE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE
OF CATCHING BUSES AND SO FORTH.
SO I WANT TO BRING THAT TO THE TABLE.
BACK IN THE DAY, I OFTEN TALK ABOUT VILLAGES, RIGHT?
MS. LOVE WAS MY VILLAGE, BECAUSE MY BUS WOULD BE LATE, SHE
NEVER CHARGED ME A LATE FEE PICKING UP MY SON BECAUSE SHE
KNEW I WAS TRYING TO WORK.
THE BUS DRIVERS WERE A VILLAGE BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A REGULAR
AND YOU WEREN'T AT THAT STOP, THEY TOOK A SECOND AWAY FOR
YOU BECAUSE YOU MAY BE RUNNING LATE OR YOUR BUS MAY BE
RUNNING -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS UNFOUNDED, UNHEARD OF VILLAGE
THAT MADE JUST LIFE WORK.
THE PEOPLE ON THE BUS THAT RODE THE BUS WITH YOU EVERY DAY
WAS THAT VILLAGE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING INSIGHT TO THIS POSITION.
I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL.
10:01:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:01:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS ABOUT
MS. LOCKETT, I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR YOU.
I THINK YOU ARE A PERSON OF VERY GOOD MORAL CHARACTER.
I MET YOU THROUGH FLORIDA RISING WHEN YOU WOULD COME HERE
AND ADVOCATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A LOT OF OTHER
ISSUES.
IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, WE WERE IN THE SAME RACE TOGETHER.
WE RAN AGAINST EACH OTHER.
THROUGH THAT WE WERE ALWAYS RESPECTFUL.
WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER EVEN MORE.
I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK, YOU SPEAK FROM THE HEART.
YOU ARE THE REAL DEAL.
I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN SAY NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS.
I KNOW YOU WILL BE COMMITTED TO THIS HUNDRED PERCENT.
WITH YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCE, WORK EXPERIENCE, I THINK YOU ARE
A VERY GOOD CANDIDATE AND I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:02:05AM >> SECOND.
10:02:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT YOU, MS. LOCKETT.
YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB.
I SERVED ON THE HART BOARD A NUMBER OF YEARS.
I BELIEVE YOU ARE TAKING MR. MECHANIK'S POSITION, RIGHT?
10:02:21AM >> YES.
10:02:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
DAVID MECHANIK, I PROBABLY SHOULD DO SOME SORT
OF THING TO HONOR DAVID ON MANY LEVELS, GREAT GUY.
WONDERFUL PERSON.
YOU HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL.
YOU'RE GOING TO FILL THEM.
YOU'LL FILL THEM WITH THE STUFF YOU TALKED ABOUT.
YOU LIVE THAT LIFE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE GREAT BENEFIT THAT
HART IS.
YOU HAVE A THIRST FOR JUSTICE, THIRST FOR DIGNITY FOR
PEOPLE, RESPECT FOR PEOPLE.
I SERVED AS THREE YEARS AS HART CHAIRMAN.
THE PEOPLE THAT HART SERVES BUT ALSO OUR WORKERS.
OUR BUS OPERATORS, MECHANICS.
ATU, TEAMSTERS.
THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE, THE BEST PEOPLE.
YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE WORKING WITH THEM.
LOVE WORKING WITH SCOTT DRAINVILLE, THE CEO, ONE OF MY
FAVORITE PEOPLE.
I LOVE SCOTT A LOT.
YOU'LL DO GREAT.
I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU.
10:03:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG AND THEN MIRANDA.
10:03:13AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
I THINK YOU'RE THE PERFECT PERSON.
I JUST RECENTLY DID A BUS RIDE.
I RODE ROUTE 5 AND 12.
I THINK HAVING AND JUST TALKING WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE BUS,
TALKING WITH THE OPERATORS, HAVING SOMEBODY ON THAT BOARD
THAT UNDERSTANDS AND KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE I THINK IS GOING
TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BRING A LEVEL OF EMPATHY AND EXPERTISE, BUT
ALSO EXPERIENCE THAT IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
CONGRATULATIONS.
10:03:42AM >> THANK YOU.
10:03:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I ALSO RODE THE BUS MOST OF MY LIFE GROWING UP IN THE PONCE
De LEON HOUSING PROJECT.
HOWEVER, GETTING ELECTED IN 1974 THROUGH '79, REELECTION IN
'75, IS THAT WE HAD OUR OWN BUSES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
CALLED TAMPA TRANSIT AUTHORITY.
BUS HERE ON CLEVELAND STREET AND GREAT OPERATION GOING.
YOU HAD YOUR OWN TOKEN, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
RODE THE BUS, HAD A TRANSFER AND SO ON.
HOWEVER, THEN THE GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN.
I NEVER FORGET.
REPEATING MYSELF EVERY TIME I SAY THIS.
DOWNSTAIRS, COMING DOWN THE STEPS, BOY, LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING, THE DAY YOU TAKE ONE DOLLAR FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET IT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE
BECAUSE NOW YOU CARRY SOMEBODY FROM HERE TO WIMAUMA FOR A
QUARTER AND YOU CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
HARRY ORR WAS A THOUSAND PERCENT CORRECT.
ALTHOUGH I VOTED LAST TIME FOR MILLION SIX, IF I'M HERE
AGAIN, I WILL NOT VOTE IT BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER AUTHORITY,
CREATES THEIR OWN FUNDING, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHOULD KICK
IN A LOT MORE.
THEY WANT TO DO THINGS THEIR WAY EVEN ON SOME TAXES WE PAY,
COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX, CIT AND SO FORTH, ALTHOUGH WE
CREATE OVER 31%, WE ONLY GET 21% BACK.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DID THAT NUMBER.
SOMETHING HAPPENED SOMEWHERE.
AND THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I LOVE YOU.
I THINK YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
I ECHO EVERYTHING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, YOUR AUTHORITY
AND RIGHT TO SERVE, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE EARNED IT.
10:05:09AM >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
10:05:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:05:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I'M PARTICULARLY PROUD OF THIS MOMENT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE
A TRANSIT RIDER AND YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING
WITH PEOPLE WITH HOUSING, BECAUSE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION
IS SO INTERLOCKED THAT I JUST SEE THIS AS A CONTINUATION OF
THE WORK THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING WITH FLORIDA RISING.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS TAKES YOU.
BUT REALLY, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON
THAT BOARD WHO REALLY HAS THE PULSE OF THE PEOPLE REALLY
MATTERS.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT FOR YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
10:05:47AM >> THANK YOU.
10:05:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROBIN, MY DEAR FRIEND, CONGRATULATIONS --
10:05:52AM >> YOU CAN CALL ME FRIEND.
10:05:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHE LECTURES ME TOO MANY TIMES THAT I CALL
PEOPLE FRIENDS THAT ARE NOT MY FRIENDS.
I HOPE YOU ARE USED TO DOING EVERYTHING WITH NOTHING BECAUSE
THAT IS THE CHALLENGE OF HART.
THIS MISSION IS SO LARGE AND THE RESOURCES SO SMALL.
IT'S A STRUGGLE EVERY DAY FOR THEM TO DO WHAT THEY ARE
DOING.
IT'S REALLY AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK.
AND TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THEY DID.
I'M VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT YOU IN THIS POSITION.
WHILE THIS IS OPEN, REFER TO THE NEXT TWO, THERE WAS A LOT
OF PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT TERM LIMITS.
THESE BOARDS ARE NOT SET AND TERM LIMITS ARE NOT SET BY THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
JUST FYI.
TERM LIMITS ON THESE BOARDS ARE SET BY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY ARE NOT SET BY US.
WE DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF LIMITING THESE TYPES OF
BOARDS.
THE OTHER BOARDS THAT ARE SET WITHIN THE CITY, YES, WE DO,
BUT THESE WE DON'T.
ALL THREE OF THESE ARE MAYORAL APPOINTMENTS AND WE'RE JUST
CONFIRMING.
THAT CONFIRMATION PROCESS, AS LONG AS THE PERSON IS
QUALIFIED AND NOT A FELON OR SOMETHING REALLY TERRIBLE ABOUT
THEM, THE CHARACTER THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO
SERVE ON THE BOARDS, WE HAVE TO STAY IN OUR LANE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE MAYOR APPOINTMENTS.
NOT OUR APPOINTMENTS.
WE DON'T GET TO PICK.
THESE ARE MAYOR APPOINTMENTS AND WE'RE CONFIRMING THE MAYOR
APPOINTMENTS.
THAT'S OUR ROLE TODAY AS CITY COUNCIL.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, HIP HIP
HOORAY.
THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, ROBIN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
WE'LL TALK ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING -- ALREADY DONE.
GOOD.
ITEM NUMBER 5, SANDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO US?
GOOD MORNING, ANOTHER FRIEND.
PRETTY IN RED AS ALWAYS.
10:07:52AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I AM HAVING SOME BAD ALLERGIES, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE MY
COMMENTS VERY BRIEF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR FOR POINTING ME.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ROBIN.
I ADMIRE HER QUITE A BIT.
I THINK MY EXPERIENCE OF SITTING ON THE HART BOARD FOR MANY
YEARS WILL HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EFFECT AND POSITIVELY FOR
THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT I REALLY WANT TO HELP THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT TO SOLVE THESE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, FOR THE
TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED ESPECIALLY, AND LUIS KNOWS I
WORKED ON THAT QUITE A BIT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, I'M SORRY.
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY AND TO HELP FOLKS
IN THESE UNDERSERVED AREAS THAT JUST REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY
TRANSPORTATION.
THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH.
10:08:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:08:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME JUST SAY I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF
KNOWING THE MURMAN FAMILY, JIM AND SANDY FOR MANY YEARS AND
HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER THEN WHEN SHE
WAS IN THE COUNTY AND SHE BECAME THE HEAD OF TAMPA BAY
WATER, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TAMPA BAY WATER WHEN
THINGS WERE DIFFERENT, LITTLE HARDER TO DO THAN THEY ARE
NOW.
MONEY WAS TIGHT, AND SHE WAS THE CHAIRMAN AND SHE DID AN
OUTSTANDING JOB FOR TWO YEARS.
I'M GOING TO MOVE THE NOMINATION.
10:09:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:09:30AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I WANTED TO COMMEND YOU, COMMISSIONER MURMAN, FORMER STATE
REP MURMAN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IT'S FUNNY.
YOU WOULDN'T REMEMBER THIS BUT WE MET FIRST WHEN I WAS
18-YEAR-OLDS AT USF.
YOU WERE RUNNING FOR THE LEGISLATURE.
I WAS A KID.
IT'S FUNNY.
A LOT OF FUNNY STORIES IN THAT, OBVIOUSLY.
YOUR LONG LEGACY IN PUBLIC SERVICE IS WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
GOD BLESS YOU.
10:09:53AM >> THANK YOU.
10:09:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
I HAVEN'T ASKED YOU THESE QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THE STREETCAR AND EXPANSION?
10:10:02AM >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
10:10:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXPANSION OF TRANSIT, MASS TRANSIT THROUGH
THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:10:06AM >> OH, SURE.
ABSOLUTELY.
10:10:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
10:10:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL ASK A QUESTION ALONG THAT LINE.
WHAT ABOUT, RIGHT NOW, HART HAS VOTED TO EXPAND OR THE
POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THEIR FULL MILL.
RIGHT NOW THEY TAKE HALF A MILL.
ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THEM GOING FOR THE FULL MILL ON
PROPERTY TAXES?
10:10:27AM >> I DIDN'T KNOW THEY DID THAT.
I WILL SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP GET MORE FUNDING FOR
HART, ABSOLUTELY.
10:10:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
10:10:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
10:10:41AM >> THANK YOU.
10:10:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 6.
JANET CRUZ RIFKIN IS IN EUROPE RIGHT NOW AND WAS UNABLE TO
ATTEND.
I DID SPEAK WITH HER.
OF COURSE, SHE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR SUPPORT.
THE MAYOR HAS APPOINTED HER FOR FOUR-YEAR TERM ON HOUSING.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, SHE WAS A HOUSING ADVOCATE
IN HER PERIOD OF TIME IN THE STATE HOUSE AND THE
LEGISLATURE.
ANYBODY --
10:11:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
KNOWING WHEN SHE WAS STATE REP CRUZ AND THEN SENATE, SHE
UNDERSTANDS SADOWSKI FUND.
SHE UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGES FROM TALLAHASSEE.
KNOWING HER IN THAT ELECTED POSITION, SHE WAS ALWAYS
FIGHTING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN IT CAME TO HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, JOBS, DO THE JOB
FAIR, I WOULD ALWAYS SEE HER OUT THERE, ALWAYS VERY ACTIVE.
AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT I KNOW.
THAT'S IT.
10:11:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I THINK YOU'RE IN SPAIN.
CONGRATULATIONS IN SPAIN.
HAVE A NICE BIG GLASS OF RED WINE FOR US.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
WE ARE MOVING ON.
ANY REQUESTS FOR RECONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATIVE MATTERS?
10:12:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CLERK HAS --
10:12:11AM >>THE CLERK:
HURTAK ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
10:12:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
HEARING NONE, CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, PLEASE MOVE ITEMS 7-14.
10:12:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE SAID ITEMS.
10:12:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:12:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MY LAST TIME MOVING PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA, BY
THE WAY.
JUST SAYING.
10:12:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CAN WE SEND A COMMENDATION TO HIM FOR THE
LAST TIME?
[ LAUGHTER ]
10:12:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING YOU'VE EVER
SAID.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, MOVE ITEMS 15-29.
10:12:51AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
AND BEFORE I MOVE --
10:12:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID I CALL THE VOTE?
I DON'T REMEMBER.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
10:13:01AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BEFORE I MOVE THE ITEMS, BECAUSE I KNOW I GOT
SOME CALLS AND QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SOCIAL ACTION AND
ARTS FUNDING, THESE WERE APPROVED FOR FY '26.
WE DID HAVE A SOCIAL ACTION ARTS FUNDING WORKSHOP SO THAT WE
CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, BETTER OVERSIGHT, A BETTER PROCESS AND
MORE ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CITY GOALS.
SO, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FY '27 WE'LL HAVE MORE, YOU KNOW,
IT WILL BE MORE ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE CITY
AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
THESE WERE APPROVED IN FY '26.
YOU'LL SEE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS HOPEFULLY FOR FY '27.
I MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 29.
10:13:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, 30 THROUGH 50.
10:13:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAS ANYTHING PULLED FROM THIS?
NO.
I MOVE ITEMS 30-50.
10:13:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 51-55, FINANCE
COMMITTEE.
10:14:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
10:14:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 56-65.
10:14:14AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MOVE ITEMS 56 THROUGH 65.
10:14:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU MOVE 66-70.
10:14:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MOVE 66 THROUGH 70.
10:14:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 71 AND 72.
10:14:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVE ITEMS 71 AND 72.
THEY ARE BOTH LISTED WITH ALL THE INFORMATION.
10:14:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MOTION TO OPEN THE -- ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
HE BROUGHT ME MY COFFEE.
LOOKS LIKE HE'LL KEEP HIS JOB TODAY.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
ITEM 73, WE'RE INTO SECOND READINGS.
STAFF?
WE'RE MOVING TOO FAST FOR STAFF.
10:15:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S TALK MORE.
10:15:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE COULD SING.
[SINGING]
10:15:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
PLEASE, I'M GOING TO LOSE MY HAIR.
10:15:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:15:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTING?
I GUESS WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY, DO WE?
DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ON IT?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 73?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:16:17AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 16, ARTICLE V, SECTION 16-86 OF
THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE, TREE TRUST FUND, PROVIDING FOR
ANNUAL DISTRIBUTION OF TREE TRUST FUND MONIES FOR THE
BENEFIT OF TREE-MENDOUS TAMPA, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:16:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:16:50AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
10:16:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
IS THERE STAFF TO PRESENT FOR 74?
10:17:03AM >> GOOD MORNING.
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ITEM 74 IS TA/CPA 26-08, A MAP AMENDMENT LOCATED AT 4707
EAST HENRY AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 35.
THIS AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED AT THE SEPTEMBER 24, 2026
HEARING AND IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:17:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU READ THIS, PLEASE?
10:17:38AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4707 EAST HENRY AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL
10, R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL 35, R-35, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:17:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:18:04AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING
ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
10:18:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EMILY, ARE YOU PRESENTING FOR 75?
10:18:13AM >> YES.
EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
ITEM 75 IS TA/CPA 26-01.
MAP AMENDMENT LOCATED AT 1605 NORTH WATERS COURT.
THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.
THIS AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED AT THE SEPTEMBER 24, 2026
HEARING AND IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:18:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS
ITEM?
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 75, PLEASE.
10:18:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 75, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE
LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1605 NORTH WATERS
COURT, FROM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU 35 TO URBAN MIXED
USE 60, UMU 60, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:19:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:19:23AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
10:19:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE REST, ITEMS 76 THROUGH 80 ARE
QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON TESTIFYING OR SPEAKING TO ANY OF
THESE ITEMS, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN BY OUR
CLERK.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 76.
10:19:57AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
ITEM 76 IS AB 2-26-10 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6203 NORTH
FLORIDA AVENUE.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF PREMISES.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN
CERTIFIED AND COPY PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS?
10:20:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM
76.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
10:20:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE AB2-26-10, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF
PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON
THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
6203 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021-69, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:21:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:21:28AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
10:21:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
77.
10:21:32AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 77 IS AB 2-26-16 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
5804 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES, CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISES.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READINGS.
CHANGES COMPLETED.
PLAN CERTIFIED.
COPY PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:22:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
IS THERE AN APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
AYES HAVE IT.
10:22:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 77, FILE AB 2-26-16,
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES
OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
AT 5804 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:23:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM
MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:23:11AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
10:23:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 78.
10:23:20AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM NUMBER 78, AB 2-26-17, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1601 THROUGH
1607 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
FOR THE RECORD, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED A POSSIBLE ERROR WITH
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE REGARDING THE SPECIFIC UNIT
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REQUEST.
AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE SO STAFF CAN GET WITH THE
APPLICANT AND VERIFY AND CONFIRM THE REPEAL OF THE EXISTING
ORDINANCE --
10:23:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
I'LL RECOGNIZE THE APPLICANT.
10:23:59AM >> JIM PORT WE ARE AKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
LEO IDENTIFIED AN ISSUE.
WE THINK WE HAVE IT CLEARED UP.
HONESTLY IT WILL TAKE TIME TO SIT DOWN.
UPPER NORTH FRANKLIN.
OLD HISTORIC BUILDING.
THERE ARE FOUR UNITS.
WE'RE TAKING TWO OF THE UNITS.
THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE LEGAL MATCHES OR NOT.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION.
AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE IT STRAIGHTENED OUT.
MS. JOHNSON VELEZ FEELS IMPORTANT THAT IT IS RIGHT.
CONTINUE TO THE NIGHT MEETING NEXT WEEK.
SHOULD ONLY TAKE A MINUTE TO DO IF WE GET IT RIGHT.
IF NOT, WE'LL WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION AND START OVER AGAIN.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUATION TO NEXT WEEK.
10:24:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THE
MOTION.
SHE HAS IT ALL RIGHT HERE.
10:24:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MOVE ITEM NUMBER 78 TO OCTOBER 22
EVENING SESSION, 5:01 P.M.
315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE IT FIRST SO IT CAN BE DONE AND
OUT OF THE WAY?
10:25:04AM >> I WOULD SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
10:25:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 78 TO
OCTOBER 22, 2026 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HEARD THE SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FIRST.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
ACTUALLY, I WON'T SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
I WON'T BE HERE.
ITEM 79 AND 80, I WAS NOT HERE --
10:25:26AM >>THE CLERK:
CLARIFICATION ON ITEM 79.
ON THE AGENDA IT READS FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, BUT IT'S
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:25:35AM >> FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T LISTENING, ITEM 78, THE
AGENDA WAS TYPED TO SAY FIRST READING.
IT'S SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
79.
I'M SORRY.
79.
79 IS SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
FOR 79 AND 80, I WAS NOT HERE DURING THE FIRST READING BUT I
REVIEWED THE RECORD AND REVIEWED THE RECORDING AND I'M
PREPARED TO VOTE.
ITEM 79, STAFF.
10:25:59AM >> ITEM --
10:26:00AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 79 IS AB 2-26-19, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6207
SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE
CLASSIFICATION, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READINGS.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE
BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:26:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO SPEAK?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE
ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ASK FRED COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
10:26:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
SU-2 FOR --
10:26:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:26:51AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY.
IT'S SO FUNNY.
YOU PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF ME TO READ.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION --
STRIKE THAT CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL
USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE,
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY, AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THE CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 6207 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY,
TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2,
PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
IT IS ADOPTION.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:46AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
10:27:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 80.
10:27:50AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN:
LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
ITEM 80 IS AB2-26-20 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 210 EAST
FOWLER AVENUE.
THIS IS A SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES RESTAURANT CLASSIFICATION FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
THE PLAN CERTIFIED AND COPY PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:28:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
HEARING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO
THIS ITEM?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, WOULD YOU READ ITEM 80?
10:28:33AM >>NAYA YOUNG:
FILE AB 2-26-20, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
RESTAURANT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF
ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN
LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 210 EAST FOWLER
AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 2, PROVIDING US THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:29:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:29:15AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
10:29:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
WE'LL TRY TO GET AT LEAST ONE OF THE 10:30 HEARINGS OUT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO 81.
10:29:30AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:29:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR MIKE ON.
10:29:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY.
JUST A REMINDER THAT THE STAFF REPORT RESOLUTION IS THE HIGH
TICKET ITEMS THAT DON'T NEED STAFF --
10:29:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
ITEM 81.
10:29:58AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, PRESENTING
VAC-26-07.
I HAVE TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE THE ELMO SCREEN.
10:30:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S COMING UP.
10:30:07AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
THE APPLICANT IS JEFFREY MASON.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3902 WEST WYOMING AVENUE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
CHURCH AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THAT ALLEY WAY LOCATED NORTH
OF WISCONSIN AVENUE, SOUTH OF WYOMING AVENUE, EAST OF GRADY
AVENUE, AND WEST OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
THE APPLICATION WAS FILED FEBRUARY 2, 2026.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS PARTIALLY UNIMPROVED.
THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 26,655 SQUARE
FEET.
THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST IS ILLEGAL DUMPING.
AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
THE ALLEY EAST AND WEST AND PORTION OF CHURCH AVENUE NORTH
AND SOUTH IN YELLOW.
THE PORTION OF CHURCH AND THE ALLEYWAY WAS CREATED.
IMAGE LOOKING SOUTH FROM WYOMING AVENUE.
THIS IS THE PORTION OF CHURCH.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM WISCONSIN AVENUE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM GRADY AVENUE.
THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST, IN HAD PARTICULAR
TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED BY
FRONTIER, SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH
CHAPTER 27 REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR
ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN A VACATED AREA.
MELANIE CALLOWAY WITH MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS AVAILABLE IF
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE OBJECTIONS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:31:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT.
IS THERE AN APPLICANT ON THIS?
COME UP, START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:32:12AM >> MY NAME IS JEFF MASON.
I'M THE HOMEOWNER AT 3903 WEST WYOMING.
I'M HERE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL.
THE REQUEST IS SIMPLE, TO VACATE THE TWO UNDEVELOPED
SEGMENTS OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS NEXT TO MY PROPERTY AND OTHERS
ON THAT STREET.
A PORTION OF CHURCH AVENUE, FORMERLY WILLOW STREET, IS
UNIMPROVED ALLEYWAY AND BLOCK 19.
TO PLAINLY PUT IT, THESE STRIPS OF LAND DON'T SERVE ANY
PRACTICAL TRAFFIC OR CITY PURPOSES.
MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1966.
THE LAND HAS NEVER ONCE BEEN PAVED, UTILIZED OR TURNED INTO
AN ACTUAL STREET.
THERE ISN'T EVEN A SIDEWALK GOING THROUGH THAT AREA.
THE CITY HAS NOT HAD TO MOW THE PROPERTY.
I'M HOPING THAT AFTER TODAY, THE NEIGHBORS AND I CAN FINALLY
SAY THAT WE MOW OUR OWN PROPERTY AND NOT THE CITY'S AND
CARRY ZERO THRU TRAFFIC.
FINALLY THE ONLY THING, PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS SEGMENT
ACCOMPLISHES IS PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS DIRECTLY TO OUR
BACKYARDS.
LEAVING IT AS A DORMANT STRIP OF CITY PROPERTY OFFICIALLY
MAKES IT A MUNICIPALITY MAINTENANCE LIABILITY.
I KNOW THE CITY LIKES TO PRESERVE ITS HISTORICAL STREET
GRIDS AND I RESPECT THAT.
SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF IT MAKES
SENSE AND MAKE A CHANGE FOR THE GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST TWO STREETS OVER ON OHIO, THE CITY COUNCIL WISELY
RECOGNIZED THAT VACATING UNIMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS A
COMMONSENSE CHOICE TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE THE SOUTHSIDE
BAPTIST CHURCH PROPERTY.
MY PROPERTY SHARES THE EXACT SAME FOOTPRINT AND SITUATION.
APPROVING THIS PETITION TODAY JUST APPLIES THE SAME
PRACTICAL LOGIC IN OUR BLOCK.
I'VE GOT SOME PICTURES IF YOU WANT TO SEE --
10:34:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS A WOLF.
DROP IT DOWN FACE UP AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY COME UP.
10:34:20AM >> THIS IS A PICTURE OF CHURCH.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TAKEN THE UNIMPROVED PROPERTY AND
MAKING IT THEIR OWN.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BIG BUILDING ON IT.
THAT'S THIS AREA RIGHT IN HERE.
ON THE BACK SIDE, THIS IS MY PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT I HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT WAS EXPECTED TO RUN
INTO A STREET.
THAT WAS NEVER BUILT.
EVENTUALLY, I WOULD LIKE THE PROPERTY TO BE SPLIT AMONG FOUR
WAYS SO THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS CAN SHARE THAT PROPERTY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
10:35:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
THANK YOU, SIR.
START WITH YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
10:35:14AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
$573.
$573.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH VACATING AN ALLEYWAY.
I HAVE NEVER, EVER DRIVEN BY THIS LOT AND SEEN IT FULL WITH
GARBAGE.
I HAVE SEEN THAT HOUSE LOOKING LIKE TRASH.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE CURRENT OWNERS OR PREVIOUS OWNERS
OR WHAT, BUT I'VE SEEN THIS HOUSE WITH BOARDED UP FRONT
WINDOWS AND ALL KINDS OF NONSENSE GOING ON.
BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN GARBAGE IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS WHO LOTS.
TWO LOTS.
PLEASE ASK MR. SAM DIEGO HOW BIG IT IS.
I THINK 60 BY 140, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU COULD PUT TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ON IT.
THIS IS GIVING AWAY THIS LAND FOR $573.
HERE IS YOUR RAFTELIS REPORT.
THAT IS THE CURRENT COST TO DO A VACATION FOR AN ALLEYWAY.
YOU CAN DO IT FOR AN ALLEYWAY AND A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THIS IS CRAP.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA WHO HAVE LIVED THERE THEIR
WHOLE ENTIRE LIVES.
I'M HANDING OUT PALM CARDS, AND I SEE THERE ARE GENERATIONS
OF PEOPLE LIVING IN 1200-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO,
BUT YOU ALL WANT TO GIVE AWAY TWO LOTS FOR $573.
NOT NO, BUT HELL NO.
SERIOUSLY.
WE HAVE GOT TO RECONSIDER THIS.
THIS RAFTELIS REPORT, IT NEGLECTS THIS HUGE GAP IN THERE.
I CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND.
CARROLL ANN BENNETT WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
SHE PLAYED ON THESE TWO LOTS WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.
IF SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY BUILT ON THESE LOTS, THEY NEED TO BE
BACKING IT UP.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
CHURCH, NO CHURCH, HOUSE, NO HOUSE, YOU CAN'T BUILD ON THE
CITY'S PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMISSION TO DO SO.
MAKE THE CHURCH BUY WHAT THEY HAVE ENCROACHED ON ALREADY.
BUT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.
$573 AND YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE AWAY, THEY WILL HAVE A WHOLE
OTHER LOT NEXT DOOR.
TOMORROW THEY COULD TEAR THAT PLACE DOWN.
THE LAST TIME I TRIED TO SELL ONE OF MY RENTAL PROPERTIES
THREE YEARS AGO, DOMAIN OFFERED ME, I THINK RIGHT AT
$300,000.
YOU WOULD BE GIVING AWAY $600,000 WORTH OF CITY PROPERTY FOR
$573 WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE BEGGING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT ANY MORE DENSITY, BUT THIS IS
RIDICULOUS.
THANK YOU.
10:37:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:37:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I'M ALSO TALKING IN REGARDS TO THIS.
FOR $573, I CAN BUY THE LAND AND I CAN BUILD A NEW HOUSE ON
IT AND SELL MY PROPERTY THAT MY HOME IS GOING TO SHAMBLES
BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO HELP IN MY AREA.
$573, YOU'RE GIVING.
MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.
DO SOMETHING TO HELP PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY HAS THIS, DEVELOPERS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND
THEY GET THESE CREDITS.
BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.
TO SOME PEOPLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS 2300 FOR AN APARTMENT.
THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR SOMEONE SOMETIMES.
THIS MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH IT, NOT GIVE IT AWAY FOR
PRETTY MUCH FREE.
PLEASE, THINK ABOUT THAT AREA.
THE ALLEY, OKAY, BUT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, TWO LOTS THAT
WE CAN DO SO MUCH WITH.
THANK YOU.
10:38:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
10:39:02AM >> JAMIE ADAIR.
TODAY I'M COMING TO YOU AS A REALTOR OF 20 YEARS PLUS
EXPERIENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STEPHANIE IS NOT WRONG.
THOSE LOTS ARE CURRENTLY VALUED AT APPROXIMATELY 250 APIECE.
MY RECENT WALKS, I REALIZED THERE'S TONS OF THESE LITTLE
ORPHANED PARCELS SITTING OUT THERE.
I CAN APPRECIATE NOT WANTING TO HAVE ILLEGAL DUMPING ON
THEM.
I SPEND A LOT OF MY DAYS WORKING ON THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IT IS THIS PARTICULAR PIECE IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A
$500,000 SALE.
ONCE YOU DEED IT OVER OR ONCE ACQUIRED, IT CAN BE SPLIT OFF
AND REDEVELOPED.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT THIS APPLICANT INTENDS ON DOING,
BUT IT IS A FUNCTION AND ALSO OPENS THE DOOR FOR EVERY OTHER
PARCEL THAT IS ALONG THAT ROUTE TO ALSO BE SPLIT OFF AND
SOLD.
THE CITY MAY BE IN NEED OF MONEY SOON.
JUST SAYING.
AND WE WOULD LOVE SOME MORE STORMWATER DRAINAGE.
SO WE COULD POSSIBLY ACQUIRE IT AND USE IT FOR STORMWATER.
ANY OTHER ACQUISITIONS YOU'VE MADE FOR STORMWATER RECENTLY,
250 OR LESS?
PROBABLY NOT.
THESE PARCELS ARE A VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND.
JUST TO KEEP IN MIND.
I DO SAY THAT FROM ON THE GROUND REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL,
WORKING WITH CASH TRANSACTIONS CURRENTLY.
THE CITY ALWAYS PAYS MORE.
THANK YOU.
10:40:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SHELBY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMIND ME.
DOES THE APPLICANT GET REBUTTAL HERE?
10:40:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ACTUALLY, THIS IS NOT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
QUASI-JUDICIAL.
THIS IS LEGISLATIVE.
10:40:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
10:40:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY YOU
CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS.
10:40:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WELL THEN --
10:40:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:40:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
10:40:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY I MAKE A MOTION?
I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY THIS VACATING BASED ON THE
OBJECTIONS OF STAFF IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION.
VAC-26-07.
10:41:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
10:41:22AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN
ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
10:41:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK THAT WE ARE MOVING TO 82 -- ACTUALLY,
NO, WE'RE NOT DOING 82.
I THINK WE'RE MOVING BACK TO DOING OFF AGENDA PUBLIC
COMMENT.
IS THAT WHAT HE SAID HE WANTED TO DO?
I KNOW WE HAVE SOMETHING -- ISN'T THERE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO
DO AT 11:30?
WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11:30, AND WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE
OFF AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'LL START OFF AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA SHELLABARGER AND MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
10:42:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE MAPS THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS.
THESE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE,
ALL 30,000 OF THEM.
IF YOU NOTICE THE RED AREAS, THEY ARE THE MOST CONCENTRATED
AREAS FOR MacDILL AND THEN WE HAVE THE YELLOW AREAS
WHICH ARE LESS CONCENTRATED AND LESS CONCENTRATED.
BUT YOU SEE ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO COME THROUGH THIS
LITTLE AREA IN RED RIGHT HERE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
ALL 30,000 HAVE TO COME THROUGH THERE TO GO TO WORK.
THEY DON'T WORK ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE FOR MOST TRAFFIC
STUDIES.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE ON
DALE MABRY AND MANHATTAN RIGHT NOW.
CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
MacDILL IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE.
THEY EMPLOY THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE AS THE PORT DOES.
THEY ARE ALL COMING THROUGH SOG.
NOVEMBER 2021, I DID A WALKING TOUR FROM THE GREEN STORE ALL
THE WAY TO WESTSHORE WITH MOBILITY STAFF FOR THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AGO NEXT MONTH.
WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING IN JANUARY OF 2022.
THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED AT $3 MILLION, LITTLE
BIT LESS THAN 3 MILLION.
RIGHT HERE.
BUT FOR SOME WEIRD REASON, IT'S ON THE NEW CIT FOR 8
MILLION.
MR. PERRY EVEN SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THAT MUCH.
SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHY IT'S THERE.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THERE IS 1.6 MILLION SITTING IN THE
INTERBAY.
THE INTERBAY MOBILITY DISTRICT THAT COULD BE USED TO KEEP
THIS MOVING FORWARD.
DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE MONEY IS THERE TO KEEP THIS PROJECT
MOVING FORWARD.
IT SHOULD NOT BE DEFERRED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO STEAL MONEY FROM ANYBODY ELSE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
WE HAVE TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD.
I HAVE CHECKED.
THERE'S SOME MONEY SOMEWHERE THAT'S COME IN FROM SOMEPLACE.
I'M STILL WORKING ON IT.
I WANT TO CORRECT MY NUMBERS FROM THE OTHER NIGHT.
MY NUMBERS FROM THE OTHER NIGHT.
TOLD YOU IT WAS 9.4 MILLION.
I HAVE AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET ON THIS COMPUTER.
IT'S 11.2 MILLION JUMP.
THIS IS NOT THE ANNUAL, BUT THE JUMP IN PROPERTY TAXES BEING
PAID SOUTH OF GANDY, WEST OF DALE MABRY.
SO OUR COMMUNITY HAS TAKEN THE BRUNT OF ALL THIS, BUT WE'VE
GOTTEN NO BENEFITS.
THE BRUNT, BUT NO BENEFITS.
AND, OH, BY THE WAY, I'M GOING TO MENTION IT BECAUSE I'M UP
HERE, THE RED LIGHT AT TYSON AND WESTSHORE THAT WE WERE TOLD
WE NEEDED IN 2006 IS STILL A TEMPORARY LIGHT.
IT'S ONLY BEEN THERE ABOUT A YEAR OR SO, BUT STILL A
TEMPORARY LIGHT.
WE HAVE BASICALLY IN SOUTH OF GANDY, WEST OF DALE MABRY HAVE
TAKEN ON THE BRUNT OF THE BUILDING AND THE BRUNT OF THE
TRAFFIC BUT YET WE GET NOTHING.
THIS WILL ALSO WORK ON STORMWATER.
JUST LIKE MICHELLE SAID THIS MORNING, THE PRESCOTT FLOODING
ON INTERBAY, THE WATER IS NOT DRAINING ANY LONGER AND IT
USED TO.
10:45:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M GOING TO REMIND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE
THAT WE CAN HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID.
IF YOU NEED TO HAVE A SIDE CONVERSATION, PLEASE TAKE IT OUT
TO AT LEAST THE ANTECHAMBER.
CYNTHIA SHELLABARGER, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY AND MICHELLE.
10:46:02AM >> FIRST I'M HANGING THE CLERK A PHYSICAL COPY OF MY SPEECH
AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION TO BE ENTERED PERMANENTLY INTO
TODAY'S OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORD.
HELLO.
MY NAME IS CYNTHIA SHELLABARGER.
AS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD, YOUR CORE LEGAL
MANDATE IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENSURE
ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THE FAST TRACK TIMELINE FOR THE $2.3 BILLION
RAYS STADIUM DISTRICT IS RUNNING DIRECTLY AGAINST THE PUBLIC
TRUST.
THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN TOLD THIS DEAL TRACKS TOWARD A CRITICAL
VOTE ON THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ON NOVEMBER 12.
YET BEHIND THE SCENES, WE MUST ADDRESS THE STRUCTURAL
INTEGRITY OF THIS PROCESS.
A KEY PUBLIC OFFICIAL VOTING TO AUTHORIZE THIS CAMPUS
EVICTION ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS
CLAY HOLLIS.
CLAY HOLLIS IS A VICE PRESIDENT AT THE CONSULTING FIRM
TUCKER HALL.
HE WORKS DIRECTLY UNDER COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON WHO SERVES
AS THAT PRIVATE FIRM'S PRESIDENT.
UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE 112.3143 A PUBLIC OFFICIAL CANNOT VOTE
ON MATTERS THAT RESULT IN SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN FOR THEIR
BUSINESS OR ASSOCIATED ENTITIES.
THIS COUNCIL DESERVES AN ANSWER TO A CRITICAL QUESTION OF
TRANSPARENCY.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS FROM FLORIDA POLITICS REVEALED THAT
LEADERSHIP TAMPA INC., A PRIVATE 501(C)(4) UNDISCLOSED DONOR
NETWORK TIED DIRECTLY TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S UPCOMING
MAYORAL RUN OPERATES OUT OF THE EXACT SAME PHYSICAL OFFICE
ADDRESS AS TUCKER HALL.
THEREFORE, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO ASK, DOES THIS
UNDISCLOSED DONOR NETWORK OPERATING UNDER THE TUCKER HALL
ROOF STAND TO BENEFIT FROM PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, STADIUM
DEVELOPERS, OR POLITICAL POWER BROKERS TIED TO THIS
MULTIBILLION DOLLAR STADIUM DISTRICT?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS HISTORICALLY DONE THE RIGHT THING BY
RECUSING HIMSELF FROM VOTES INVOLVING TUCKER HALL TO
PRESERVE PUBLIC TRUST.
I'M HERE TODAY TO DEMAND HE UPHOLD THAT EXACT SAME STANDARD
NOW.
IF THERE IS ANY OVERLAP BETWEEN HIS PRIVATE OFFICE'S
RESOURCES AND THE FORCES DRIVING THIS BALLPARK, A SEVERE
CONFLICT EXISTS.
TEARING DOWN 8 VITAL ACADEMIC BUILDINGS AND A TENNIS CENTER
TO LEAVE LOCAL STUDENTS WITH PERMANENT 188 MILLION DEFICIT
IS A COMMUNITY DISASTER.
NOT A BENEFIT, TO THE REMAINING MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL,
PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THIS BODY.
WE FORMALLY CALL ON COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS
CORPORATE NEXUS AND COMMIT TO RECUSING HIMSELF FROM THE
NOVEMBER 12 VOTE.
ALSO, NO CBA SHOULD BE SIGNED UNTIL DEVELOPERS LEGALLY
CONTRACT TO FUND THE ENTIRE COLLEGE INFRASTRUCTURE UP FRONT.
THANK YOU.
10:49:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO, THEN ASHLEY MORROW AND VICKY TONG.
10:49:18AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
I'M GOING OFF OF THE NON-STEPHANIE WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR OUR
AREA THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH GROWTH, 9%, MOST GROWTH IN SOUTH
OF GANDY WHERE WE DON'T NEED IT, THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA.
WE ARE SUFFERING.
WE ARE GOING UNDER.
THERE'S NOT BEEN NOTHING DONE IN OUR AREA.
PORT TAMPA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED SO SEVERELY THAT, I MEAN ARE
THEY PURPOSEFULLY SABOTAGING THE AREA JUST TO REDEVELOP?
I TEND TO QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE RUNNING THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SINCE 2020, AND I'M GOING
TO GO FOR EAST TAMPA, TOO.
BECAUSE EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED, TOO.
SULPHUR SPRINGS WAS SUPPOSED TO GET A WHOLE REVAMP.
THAT ONE WENT OUT THE WINDOW FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
JUST AS SOUTH OF GANDY GOT -- WE GOT DIRECTED OUR MONEY TO
SOUTH HOWARD ALSO.
THAT'S GOING TO ALLOCATE EVERYBODY'S MONEY.
AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY HAVE THIS LAWSUIT GOING, AND
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL KEEP PUSHING IT OUT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP.
YOU ALL DILIGENTLY WHO ARE GOING TO BE HERE ON BOARD FUTURE,
IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
IT NEEDS TO BE HELPED.
OUR AREAS ARE IN JEOPARDY.
WE PAY A LOT OF TAXES, AND I DON'T GET NOTHING.
I GET NOTHING.
I LITERALLY GET NOTHING.
WHEN THEY DON'T WANT US TO VOTE YES ON AMENDMENT 3, I TEND
TO SAY WHAT DO I GET IF I DO OR DON'T BECAUSE I DON'T GET
NOTHING.
WHEN YOU THINK OF THE FUTURE OF ALL THIS, YOU NEED TO START
REALIZING THERE'S PEOPLE THAT NEED A LOT OF HELP AND THE
THRILLS OF THROWING MONEY FROM HERE TO THERE, IT'S REALLY
GETTING TO BE REALLY SAD AND CORRUPTED, I FEEL.
BECAUSE IN MY EYES, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE IN DESPERATE
NEED.
EAST TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY, PORT TAMPA, WE GET HANGED UP ON.
WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO EVEN SAY WE FLOOD.
THEY SAY WE KNOW YOU FLOOD, CLICK.
WE CAN'T EVEN PUT OUR DOT ON THE MAP.
THEY TOTALLY WIPED US OUT OF IT ALL.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING AREAS THAT ARE VERY
VULNERABLE.
AND NOW THEY ARE BUILDING EIGHT TOWNHOMES RIGHT BEHIND ME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.
TEN YEARS THEY SAT ON THAT LAND AND NOW THERE ARE EIGHT
TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT.
WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO MY AREA?
IT'S REALLY THAT BAD.
I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT TREES GETTING MORE -- MANGROVES TO
HELP THE AREA AND ABSORB WHAT THE APARTMENTS TOOK FROM THE
AREA.
I JUST HOPE THAT YOU ALL CAN --
10:52:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
ASHLEY, FOLLOWED BY VICKY, FOLLOWED BY ROBIN.
10:52:33AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
I'LL BE SHARING TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I SPOKE ABOUT JUST BASICALLY THE
HEALTH INDUSTRY HERE IN TAMPA.
WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT CLARA FRYE WHO OWNED AND RAN AN EARLY
NEGRO HOSPITAL IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA, SPECIFICALLY IN THE
SCRUB ON LEMAR.
AFTER SHE PASSED AWAY, A NEW HOSPITAL WAS BUILT, BY BLAKE
HIGH SCHOOL, MY ALMA MATER, SITS RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO TAKE US BACK TO ITS INCEPTION.
WHEN SHE WAS GETTING IT BUILT AND SHE WAS CREATING THAT
SPACE, THERE WAS ALREADY A BLACK HOSPITAL THAT WAS STARTED
BY THOMAS McKNIGHT.
THE REASON THAT HOSPITAL WAS BROUGHT FORWARD WAS BECAUSE OF
THAT SMALL POX SCARE THAT HAPPENED IN 1899.
DURING THAT SMALL POX SCARE, A MAN BY THE NAME OF MJ
CHRISTOPHER AND A BLACK REPORTER WAS MURDERED BY ALLEGEDLY A
POLICE OFFICER, POLICE WOODARD FROM THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS INCIDENT, I GUESS HE WAS IN A BAR.
A FIGHT HAPPENS AND THE OFFICER DOES ADMIT TO HITTING HIM
OVER THE HEAD WITH HIS PISTOL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE LIGHTS WENT OUT, BUT HE CLAIMS THAT MJ
CHRISTOPHER SHOT HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN GUN.
WHEN HE WAS GETTING CARRIED OUT OF THE BAR, HE SAID POLICE
WOODARD DID NOT SHOOT ME.
HE KEPT SAYING THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WAS CLAIMED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
LOOKING BACK AT RELATIONS OF THE CITY, I DID NOT BELIEVE IT.
BUT IT IS WRITTEN IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT HE COMMITTED SUICIDE
IN SOME SENSE.
I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT'S HOW THAT STORY WENT.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE IT PULLED UP HERE, BUT I WAS ABLE TO
PULL IT UP.
I'M WORKING ON A PORTAL ACTUALLY AND I WANT TO BRING IT TO
KIDS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR SOMETHING.
AND THESE ARE MAINLY ALL MY CLIPPINGS, BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE
TO ADD THEIR OWN CLIPPINGS AND PULL UP DIFFERENT NEWSPAPER
CLIPPINGS I FOUND THAT USE -- THAT TALK ABOUT TAMPA'S BLACK
HISTORY.
AND THE NEXT STEP TO IT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TRANSCRIBE THE
RECORD.
THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT, THERE MAY BE SOME TEXT IN
HERE THAT MAY HOLD THEIR GRANDPARENTS' NAMES OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
ONCE YOU CLICK ON TRANSCRIBE THAT RECORD, THEY GO IN HERE
AND THEY CAN ZOOM IN AND TYPE IN THE RECORD.
THEY WOULD DO THIS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS.
THAT IS THE BIG IDEA FOR THAT.
REACHING OUT TO DIFFERENT BLACK HISTORY CLUB TEACHERS AT
VARIOUS HIGH SCHOOLS HERE IN TAMPA.
I DIDN'T REALLY COME UP HERE FOR THAT.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS, I WAS IN A MEETING AND I FORGOT TO
PUT THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
SO YOU ALL GET A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WITH MJ CHRISTOPHER, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN REALLY BE DONE
ABOUT THAT.
BUT JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD, I DO NOT THINK HE COMMITTED
SUICIDE ON THAT DAY.
I THINK HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED.
THANK YOU.
10:55:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, ASHLEY.
VICKY FOLLOWED BY ROBIN FOLLOWED BY SURGRET.
10:55:45AM >> MY NAME IS VICKY TONG.
I AM A CONCERNED COMMUNITY MEMBER AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE
TAMPA IMMIGRANT RIGHTS COMMITTEE.
I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PASS AN ORDINANCE
ENDING THE 287(g) AGREEMENT AND ENDING COLLABORATION WITH
I.C.E.
AS A TAMPA RESIDENT AND SOMEONE WHO HAS PERSONALLY BEEN
IMPACTED BY I.C.E. DETENTIONS AND OPERATIONS I DO NOT WANT
MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
THIS AGREEMENT USES OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO TRAIN THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO ACT AS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
SO FAR $430,000 HAS BEEN PUT TO TPD'S IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT TRAINING.
SECOND, WE HAVE LOCALLY SEEN THE DIRECT IMPACT OF WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT COLLABORATES WITH I.C.E.
IN AUGUST OF 2026, A SEFFNER HUSBAND AND FATHER AND MEXICAN
IMMIGRANT ADELAIDO CHAVEZ-MARIANO WAS STOPPED BY A
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEPUTY AT A TRAFFIC
STOP.
HE WAS BRUTALIZED AND INJURED BY HCSO, AND THEN BECAUSE OF
HCSO'S COLLABORATION WITH I.C.E., I.C.E. HAD ACCESS TO HIS
ARREST INFORMATION AND DETAINED ADELAIDO AT THE BAKER
DETENTION CENTER NEAR JACKSONVILLE.
ADELAIDO'S STORY IS ONE OF MANY STORIES.
BECAUSE IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST 2026, I.C.E. ARRESTED 50,000
PEOPLE AS A PART OF TRUMP'S AGENDA FOR NATIONWIDE ARREST
SURGE.
I.C.E. IS ALREADY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, TERRORIZING,
ARRESTING, AND DEPORTING OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
THAT IS WHY TPD SHOULD END THEIR COLLABORATION WITH I.C.E.
AND END the 287(g) AGREEMENT.
I.C.E. HAS ALSO INJURED AND MURDERED IMMIGRANTS AND
SUPPORTERS OF IMMIGRANT RIGHTS SUCH AS SILVERIO VILLEGAS
GONZALEZ, RENEE GOOD, AND MANY OTHERS.
CITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING HERE IN TAMPA, ARE
TAKING A STAND AND DEMANDING THAT THE CITIES TAKE A STAND
AGAINST TRUMP'S AGENDA AND ATTACKS ON IMMIGRANTS.
THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
ACT IN THE INTEREST OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND TAKE A STAND
AGAINST TRUMP AND DESANTIS AGENDA BY PASSING AN ORDINANCE TO
END TAMPA'S COLLABORATION WITH I.C.E. AND END THE 287(g)
AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU.
10:57:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ROBIN.
FOLLOWED BY SURGRET AND THEN AARON.
10:57:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
ROBIN LOCKETT.
I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING QUICKLY ABOUT BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF
TAXPAYER MONEY.
BACK IN '26 -- I APPLAUD -- I APPLAUD CITY COUNCIL FOR
COMING UP WITH A PROCESS IN REGARDS TO GIVING OUT MONEY TO
NONPROFITS AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT
ACCOUNTABILITY.
WITH THIS SOCIAL ACTION AND ART FUND PROGRAM, I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT ONE AGENCY SHOULD BE TARGETED.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD ONE AGENCY ACCOUNTABLE, YOU NEED TO
DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD.
I'M FAIR ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK WITH EVERYBODY, THE NONPROFITS, WHEN THEY DEAL
WITH THE CITY IN MY MIND, THEY ARE AN EXTENSION OF WHAT THE
CITY CAN DO.
AND THEY ARE DOING THE WORK, THE COMMUNITY WORK.
IN REGARDS TO THEM PROVING THAT THEY ARE WORTHY OF THE
$100,000, BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE GIVING OUT GOOD MONEY.
$75,000, A HUNDRED, TO WHATEVER YOU'RE GIVING OUT, THERE
SHOULD BE PROOF THAT THEY HAVE DONE THE WORK AND NOT ONLY
WITH RECEIPTS, HOW HAS THE WORK IMPACTED THE COMMUNITY?
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN DOCTOR UP
WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DOCTOR UP.
BUT HOW IS THAT IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY?
IN REGARDS TO ALL OF THIS, LIKE I SAID, I'M THANKFUL THAT
YOU GUYS PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE GOING FORWARD TO '27, AND
TRYING TO MAKE IT AS EQUAL AS POSSIBLE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE
ACCOUNTABLE FOR TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY WITH PUTTING AND ALLOWING, IF THE
ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPOSED TO DO IT AND KEEP TABS ON IT AND
GIVE THEM THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT PROGRAM
SUCCESSFUL.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU.
10:59:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SURGRET.
11:00:03AM >> ONCE AGAIN, SURGRET DOSS.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ONE OFFICE THAT WOULD ANSWER EVERY
QUESTION I RAISED DURING MY EARLIER COMMENT.
UNWAVERING AND TRULY INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR GENERAL.
MAYBE IF WE HAD ONE YEARS AGO, WE WOULD KNOW A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THE GENTLEMAN MS. MORROW SPOKE ABOUT
A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
I DO WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR THE REWRITE THAT GIVES THE
IG SUBPOENA POWER.
VERY NECESSARY FOR LEGITIMATE OVERSIGHT OF ANYTHING.
GAVE THE ABILITY TO INVESTIGATE ON HIS OR HER OWN INITIATIVE
AND GAVE PROPER REACH OVER CONTRACTORS, VENDORS AND
GRANTEES.
AND ALSO PROTECTION AGAINST RETALIATION.
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO THE OFFICE CAN REACH, CITY EMPLOYEES
AND THOSE PAID WITH CITY MONEY.
THAT ACTUALLY INCLUDES POLICE OFFICERS WHO WRITE REPORTS AND
THE ATTORNEYS WHO REPRESENT THE CITY IN COURT, THE STAFF AND
OUTSIDE COUNSEL ALIKE.
HAD TO DEAL WITH THEM.
I LIVE WITH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A REPORT IS FALSIFIED,
ACTUALLY WHEN A LAWYER WALKS IN AND MISSTATES FACTS TO A
JUDGE AND NO ONE IN CITY HALL IS RESPONSIBLE TO LOOKING INTO
IT.
STILL HAVE 7,000 E-MAILS.
WHEN THIS CONDUCT HAPPENS, RESIDENTS PAYING TAX MONEY,
FREEDOM, DISRUPTION OF THEIR FAMILY, LOSS OF FINANCES.
THE CITY OWES ITS CITIZENS HONESTY FROM THE EMPLOYEES AND
EVERYONE IT PAYS.
AS YOU FINISH THE LANGUAGE, I'M ASKING YOU ALL FOR FOUR
THINGS.
THE FIRST THING IS KEEP IT OUT OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND AWAY
FROM UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION INVESTIGATES.
IT WOULDN'T WORK OTHERWISE.
TWO, GUARANTEE BUDGET IN THE CHARTER SO IT CAN'T BE STARVED
QUIETLY.
10,000 FOR E-MAILS.
THREE, PLEASE PROTECT WHISTLE-BLOWERS.
NECESSARY ACROSS THE STATE.
EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS ALIKE.
ANYBODY WHO COULD SUFFER CONSEQUENCES FOR RETALIATION.
FOUR, REQUIRE THE IG TO REPORT ITS WORK TO THE PUBLIC,
TAXPAYERS, AND DO IT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE, LAYMAN'S TERMS, NO
AT WHOLE BUNCH OF LEGALESE.
AND PUT THE FINAL DRAFT IN OnBase BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT
BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SHOULD READ WHAT GOES ON THE MARCH 2027
BALLOT BEFORE IT'S DECIDED, NOT AFTER.
ACCOUNTABILITY ONLY EXISTS WHEN SOMEONE INDEPENDENT IS
ALLOWED TO LOOK OVER PEOPLE AND GIVE TAMPA THAT KIND OF
OFFICIAL.
INDEPENDENT IG CAN ASSURE OTHER VETERANS LIKE MYSELF WON'T
BE VIOLATED BY FALSE POLICE REPORTS IN THE WEIGHT OF A
CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION.
SHOUT-OUT TO EVERYBODY WEARING A UNIFORM WHO IS CURRENTLY IN
HARM'S WAY OR UNFORTUNATELY IN SUCH AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION
AND SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH
SCHOOL.
11:03:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AARON.
11:03:12AM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS AARON PICKERN.
I'M SURE SOME OF YOU KNOW I HAVE QUITE A BIT TO SAY.
NOT A LOT OF TIME TO SAY IT.
I KNOW THIS IS OFF ITEM SPEAKING.
TRY TO KEEP IT OFF ITEM.
I'M A MILITARY VETERAN MYSELF.
I WAS A VIRTUAL SYSTEMS ENGINEER AT SOCOM AND ALSO RF
TRANSMISSION SYSTEMS AT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND CENTRAL.
THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT LATER.
NOT SAYING IT TO BLOW MYSELF UP.
SOME OF YOU, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS COUNCIL,
BUT THE HELICOPTER SPRAY 62% TRADE SECRET.
YOU'RE SPRAYING US WITH CHEMICALS THAT 62% OF WE CAN'T EVEN
SEE WHAT IT IS.
THE ONE THING THEY TELL US, THE BIOLOGICAL THING, IS A KNOWN
IRRITANT.
I HAVE A FULL REPORT.
11:04:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S COUNTY, BY THE WAY.
IT'S NOT CITY.
11:04:07AM >> IT'S STILL BEING SPRAYED IN THIS CITY BECAUSE IT SPRAYED
ON ME 15 TIMES IN THE LAST 30 DAYS.
I HAVE THE RECORDS THAT SHOW YOU COORDINATED WITH THEM TO DO
THAT.
AND YOU ARE REQUESTING MORE TO COME.
THANK YOU.
SO THAT'S DISGUSTING THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE BEING SPRAYED
WITH A CHEMICAL THAT WE CAN'T EVEN SEE WHAT 62% OF IT IS AND
THE REST IS A KNOWN DELAYED IRRITANT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY, DAVIS ISLANDS BEACH CURRENTLY HAS AN
ACTIVE WATER QUALITY HEALTH ADVISORY DUE TO ELEVATED
ENTEROCOCCUS BACTERIA, FECAL MATTER.
THIS WAS AS OF OCTOBER 8, 2026, ISSUED THE ADVISORY ON
OCTOBER 8 BASED ON SAMPLES TAKEN WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 7, THAT
THE OFFICIAL THRESHOLD USED BY BEACHES, THE MAXIMUM IS 100.
WE ARE SITTING AT 120.
DOH ADVISES AGAINST ANY WATER-RELATED ACTIVITIES BECAUSE OF
INCREASED RISK OF ILLNESS.
THE ADVISORY STAYS IN PLACE UNTIL RETESTING SHOWS LEVELS
BELOW THE ACCEPTED THRESHOLD.
CITY OF TAMPA NOTES IT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN UNTIL AT LEAST
THE NEXT RESULTS AROUND OCTOBER 15 TO 16.
THERE WAS NO WARNING SIGN AT THAT BEACH.
NONE OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY WERE WARNED.
THIS WHOLE CITY IS CONTAMINATED.
IT IS NOT JUST DAVIS ISLANDS.
I HAVE THE MAP THAT SHOWS THAT EVERY WATER IN THIS CITY IS
CONTAMINATED.
IT'S A BIOLOGICAL DISASTER OF BACTERIA.
THERE ARE 15 BIOLOGICAL DUMPS INTO OUR WATER THAT THIS CITY
DOESN'T TELL THE CITIZENS ABOUT IN THE LAST 15 YEARS.
THANK YOU.
11:05:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, AARON.
11:05:49AM >> I STILL HAVE 20 SECONDS.
I'M SORRY.
WELL, GIVE ME 15 SECONDS, I GUESS.
OKAY.
I CAN'T FIND IT.
THAT PEREGRINE SYSTEM IS A NIGHTMARE.
NONE OF YOU KNOW IT, BUT IT CREATES A PROFILE ON ALL OF US.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ESPECIALLY SHOULD BE INTERESTED IN
KNOWING THAT THIS IS THE NIGHTMARE SYSTEM.
CONNECTS EVERYTHING I PLEASE BEG TO YOU PROTECT THESE
CITIZENS.
11:06:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, SIR.
YOUR TIME IS UP.
THANK YOU.
THAT CONCLUDES OFF AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENT.
ARE WE READY TO PRESENT 82?
LET'S GO.
DONE IN 22 MINUTES.
11:06:41AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
PRESENTING FILE VAC-26-17.
APPLICANT IS STEPHEN LAY.
PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2512 WEST PALM DRIVE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE REMAINING
PORTION OF THE ALLEY LYING NORTH OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD,
SOUTH OF MARYLAND AVENUE, EAST OF PALM DRIVE AND WEST OF
CAROLINA AVENUE.
APPLICATION WAS FILED JUNE 29, 2026.
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS PARTIALLY UNIMPROVED.
RIGHT-OF-WAY CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 4,665 SQUARE FEET.
REASON FOR THE REQUEST IS THIS IS AN UNIMPROVED ALLEY THAT
HAS NOT BEEN USED IN 40 PLUS YEARS.
WE NEED THE CITY OF TAMPA TO VACATE TO PROPERLY SECURE THE
PROPERTY AND HOME.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
ALLEYWAY IN YELLOW.
THIS IS THE PLAT IN WHICH THE ALLEY WAS CREATED HERE.
THIS IS A CLIP OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS SHEET SHOWING THE
REMAINING PORTION OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED HERE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE OTHER PORTION WAS PREVIOUSLY VACATED.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST FROM CAROLINA AVENUE.
THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY.
STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
THAT INCLUDES THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, EASEMENT
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY TECO AND SPECTRUM.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS NATURAL RESOURCES COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27
REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN ANY VACATED AREA.
AGAIN, MELANIE CALLOWAY WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS
AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OBJECTIONS.
11:08:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, APPLICANT?
COME ON UP.
11:08:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHEN LAY.
MY WIFE JENNIFER IS SITTING NEXT TO ME.
YES, I AM PROPOSING TO VACATE THAT SPECIFIC ALLEY.
MORE SPECIFICALLY BY MY HOME BEHIND MY HOME.
I HAVE A FEW PICTURES THAT FURTHER DEPICTS.
MY HOME IS RIGHT HERE.
ULTIMATELY, THE REASON OF THIS, IT CREATES AN INTERESTING
MESSAGE WHEN HOMELESS PEOPLE FIND THEIR WAY BURIED IN THERE,
PITCHING TENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WHEN YOU CALL THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR POLICE HELP, THEY SAY
THAT IT'S PUBLIC.
YOU ARE ULTIMATELY HARBORING A SHELTER IN A 15-FOOT
ALLEYWAY.
CAN'T BE BUILT.
CAN'T BE DEVELOPED.
AGAIN, MY HOME IS HERE.
I'M ASKING JUST FOR THIS TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED -- EXCUSE
ME, FURTHER TO BE VACATED AS IT IS PARTIALLY VACATED.
HERE IS ACTUALLY AN AERIAL OF THE ALLEYWAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE KIND OF PARALLELLED.
YOU CAN SEE THAT SINCE MY RECORDS SHOW 1939 WAS THE LAST
TIME MAYBE A VEHICLE WENT DOWN THIS ALLEYWAY PAST THIS
BLOCKADE WHICH KIND OF STARTS WHERE YOU SEE UNIMPROVED -- I
APOLOGIZE.
I'M A HOMEOWNER.
I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PROPER TERMINOLOGIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AGAIN, THESE ARE PICTURES OF TREES, FULL TREES IN THE AREA.
LET ALONE FOR A TRUCK OR A UTILITY LINE OR ANYONE TO GET
THROUGH IT, WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE.
I HAVE LETTERS ALSO STATING FROM EVERY PROPERTY OWNER THAT
THERE IS NO OBJECTION OF WHO IT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY.
AGAIN, JUST FURTHERING THE POINT THAT THIS REALLY DOESN'T
AFFECT ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE THREE OR FOUR RESIDENTS THAT
ARE BESIDE IT, MYSELF BEING AT THE DEAD END OF IT, AND FOR
THE REASONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR FAMILY SAFE, WE
FIND THAT THERE'S NO PURPOSE FOR ANY, AGAIN, NOT US TO
DEVELOP IT, NOT ANYONE TO DEVELOP IT, BUT FOR THE REASON TO
SECURE OUR PROPERTY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE
REASSURANCE THAT THAT ALLEYWAY JUST GETS BUMPED UP FURTHER
SO WE CAN FURTHER SECURE OUR YARD, PLEASE.
11:11:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE YOU FINISHED?
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR PICTURES.
THE PICTURES YOU SHOWED, ARE THOSE THE PORTIONS -- ARE THOSE
THE PORTIONS OF THE ALLEYWAY ALREADY VACATED OR PORTIONS OF
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO BE VACATED?
11:11:38AM >> I AM ONLY ASKING FOR, ACCORDING TO MY APPLICATION, I'M
ONLY ASKING FOR --
11:11:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE PICTURES WITH ALL THE CLUTTER YOU
SHOWED.
11:11:49AM >> THIS IS THE ENTIRE ALLEYWAY THAT'S UNIMPROVED.
11:11:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHERE IS THE ALLEY?
IN THAT PICTURE?
11:11:57AM >> BEHIND THIS FENCE.
11:11:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BEHIND THAT FENCE, IS THAT, IT'S BEEN
VACATED OR NO?
11:12:02AM >> NO, SIR.
I'M SORRY.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I'M STANDING RIGHT HERE.
TAKING A PICTURE THAT NORTH DIRECTION.
IF THIS HELPS, I'M STANDING RIGHT HERE TAKING A PICTURE OF
ALL OF THESE MATURE TREES, AGAIN, PROVING THAT NOTHING HAS
BEEN DRIVEN DOWN THERE IN 30, 60, 90 YEARS.
11:12:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THE ALLEYWAY
ITSELF?
WHAT THE ALLEYWAY LOOKS LIKE IN THE CURRENT CONDITION?
11:12:42AM >> YES, SIR.
11:12:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CLARIFICATION OF WHAT
I SAW.
WHAT IS THAT?
11:12:53AM >> WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS --
11:12:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S BEEN VACATED,
RIGHT?
11:12:59AM >> TECHNICALLY THIS HAS FORMALLY NOT BEEN VACATED.
AGAIN, JUST TO FURTHER MAKE SURE I'M COMMUNICATING
CORRECTLY.
THERE IS A FENCE RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S THIS FENCE.
I'M TAKING A PICTURE DOWN HERE.
THIS IS WHERE THAT LITTLE TARGET IS.
SOMEBODY IS PRACTICING ARCHERY OR SOMETHING.
AND THAT WOULD BE SITTING RIGHT HERE.
ALL OF THESE DENSE TREES AND EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE, THAT
WOULD BE --
11:13:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE CONCRETE WALL IN THE
PICTURE WITH THE RED CIRCLES ON IT?
WHERE IS THE CONCRETE WALL I SEE TO THE LEFT?
11:13:38AM >> THE CONCRETE WALL WOULD BE RIGHT HERE.
11:13:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF, CAN YOU COME UP WITH YOUR PICTURES
AND SHOW ME?
11:13:50AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE CONCRETE WALL THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS THIS
DEVELOPMENT HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
THAT FENCE LINE OF WHICH SPEAKING OF IS APPROXIMATELY IN
THIS LOCATION, AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT THREE LOTS THERE THAT
THIS AREA THAT HASN'T TECHNICALLY BEEN VACATED.
IT'S STILL A PUBLIC ALLEY.
FROM THIS POINT ON WEST, SOUTHWEST HAS BEEN VACATED.
11:14:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TRANSPORTATION, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE?
CAN YOU COME UP AND EXPLAIN YOUR OBJECTION TO THIS?
11:14:31AM >> MELANIE CALLOWAY, TRANSPORTATION.
WE HAD A CONCERN BECAUSE THE PROPERTY LOCATED HERE AT THE
CORNER USES THIS ALLEY TO GET INTO THEIR CARPORT.
THEY HAVE AN ACCESS OFF OF CAROLINA WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO
THE ALLEY SO THEY DO HAVE ACCESS.
BUT WE OBSERVED THAT THEY ARE USING A PORTION OF THE ALLEY.
AND WE WERE JUST CONCERNED IF YOU VACATE THE ALLEY THEY
WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THE ALLEY WHICH THEY COULD MANEUVER INTO.
THAT'S REALLY OUR MAIN OBJECTION WAS THIS PROPERTY.
BUT HE DID HAVE A LETTER --
11:15:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THE LETTER THAT PROPERTY OWNER?
11:15:08AM >> I BELIEVE THAT IS THE PROPERTY.
11:15:11AM >> THAT IS THE PROPERTY, YES.
11:15:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:15:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO IS THERE A WAY IF THAT PERSON STILL WANTED
ACCESS TO SIMPLY, WHERE THAT FIRST SMALLER RED CIRCLE IS,
COULD WE JUST VACATE TO THAT?
11:15:25AM >> YES.
11:15:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.
I'M ASKING STAFF.
11:15:31AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
NO, IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLY DUE TO CODE.
11:15:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M SORRY.
THERE'S CONVERSATION BEHIND ME.
11:15:39AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
THERE'S SOME CODE LANGUAGE THAT SPEAKS TO
DEAD ENDING ALLEYS WITH A VACATING NOW.
EVEN THOUGH THIS IS TECHNICALLY A DEAD END, I GUESS SINCE
THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO NOW, CODE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADDED.
THAT IS THE REASON THAT I SHOWED THE ENTIRE ALLEY, THE
REMAINDER TO BE VACATED SO THERE'S NO CREATING A DEAD END
AGAIN.
11:16:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE IT.
11:16:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:16:07AM >> REITERATE THAT I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T
CREATE A DEAD END TO AN ALLEYWAY.
BUT THIS ALREADY EXISTS.
11:16:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE UNDERSTAND.
WE GOT IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
MR. SHELBY.
11:16:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT, ARE THOSE
LETTERS THAT YOU HAD PUT UP FOR EVIDENCE, ARE THOSE IN THE
RECORD?
11:16:27AM >> THEY SHOULD BE, BUT IF NOT, YOU CAN HAVE THIS.
THIS IS A WET SIGNATURE AND NOTARY AND EVERYTHING.
11:16:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF YOU COULD SUBMIT THAT TO OUR ATTORNEY
TO PUT IN THE EVIDENCE.
11:16:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THE SIGNATOR ON THIS DOCUMENT OR ANY OF
THE DOCUMENTS THE PERSON WHO HAS THE PARCEL THAT IS MARKED
IN THE CORNER 118623?
THE PERSON AT THE CORNER, HAS THAT PERSON SIGNED ONE OF THE
DOCUMENTS?
THAT'S THE ONE --
11:16:56AM >> YES, SIR.
HERE ARE THE OTHER ONES.
11:17:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
RECEIVE AND FILE, PLEASE.
11:17:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ARE YOU GOOD?
DOES THAT CONCLUDE?
DONE WITH THE EVIDENCE?
11:17:14AM >> YES, SIR.
11:17:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I GOT TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
STEPHANIE POYNOR, THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.
IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND AGAINST THE WALL.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:17:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
YOU CAN VACATE PART OF AN ALLEYWAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO VACATE THE ENTIRE THING.
CITY COUNCIL DID IT FOR ME IN 2018 OR 2019 BECAUSE I HAD A
DEAD END THAT WAS FENCED IN ON ALL FOUR SIDES.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR THE ENTIRE ALLEYWAY.
I ONLY WANTED THE PART THAT BELONGED TO ME THAT I HAD TO
CLEAN UP BECAUSE I HAD GARBAGE IN THERE FROM THE '80s, SO
IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
IT ABSOLUTELY HAS BEEN DONE.
I WISH I COULD REMEMBER THE ADDRESS OF THE HOUSE.
THEY DID VACATE THAT PARTICULAR LOT BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND THE
HOUSE TO THE SOUTH AT THAT TIME.
THEY DIDN'T VACATE THE ENTIRE REST OF THE ALLEYWAY, SO IT
SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE DONE.
THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO.
THANK YOU.
11:18:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER.
11:18:24AM >> JAMIE ADAIR.
THIS IS WHY THIS EXISTS.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S FOR.
NO-BRAINER.
TOTALLY MAKES SENSE.
I DON'T SEE WHY YOU COULDN'T FOR THE LAST HOUSE LEAVE IT
OPEN IF THEY CARED NOT TO CLOSE IT OFF.
KIND OF NONPROBLEM.
11:18:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NEXT SPEAKER.
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:18:44AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
I'M SURE THEY ALREADY RESERVED AN EASEMENT ACROSS THAT, IS
THAT CORRECT?
WELL, ANYWAY, ONE OF THE THINGS MISCONCEPTIONS GOING AROUND
HERE IS THAT THE CITY OWNS THESE ALLEYS IN FEE.
THEY DON'T.
THE ALLEY IS HELD IN TRUST.
AND WHEN YOU FAIL TO USE IT FOR THE DEDICATED PURPOSE THAT
WAS CONTAINED IN THE SUBDIVISION, IT HAS TO BE REMOVED BY A
PETITION.
THE $570 IS A PROCESSING FEE FOR STAFF.
IT'S NOT BUYING THE LAND.
IT'S RETURNING IT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT
RIGHTFULLY HAD IT TO BEGIN WITH.
ANYWAY, I HEARD IT IN THE LAST HEARING THAT SOMEHOW THIS WAS
IMPROPER BECAUSE YOU WERE BUYING THE LAND FOR SOME NOMINAL
FEE.
IT'S NOT.
IT GOES BACK TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS A DEAD END.
IF THEY WANT AN EASEMENT OR SOMETHING TO ENSURE ACCESS, I
DON'T THINK THE PROPERTY OWNERS PETITIONING HAVE AN
OBJECTION TO THAT.
BUT TO MIX UP THESE ISSUES REGARDING YOU'RE GIVING AWAY LAND
AND IT'S ONLY FOR A SMALL FEE IS RIDICULOUS.
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
AND THE STAFF IS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT TELLING YOU IF AN ALLEY
IS FEE OWNED BY THE CITY, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT
PROCESS, VERSUS VACATING AN EXISTING DEDICATED ALLEY.
SUPPORT THEM, PLEASE.
THANK YOU.
11:20:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM VIERA, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:20:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
READING, VAC-26-17, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA VACATING,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF WHICH IS LOCATED NORTH OF
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF MARYLAND AVENUE, EAST OF PALM
AVENUE AND WEST OF CAROLINA AVENUE AS DEDICATED BY THE PLATS
OF REVISED MAP OF BOULEVARD PARK AND RESUBDIVISION OF BLOCK
24 OF HOLDEN'S SUBDIVISION BOTH IN TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY, FLORIDA, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING
CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:20:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:21:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
11:21:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THAT?
11:21:07AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO AND
CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:21:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU GOT THAT.
SECOND HEARING.
11:21:26AM >> SECOND HEARING NOVEMBER 5.
WILL I GET DOCUMENTATION OF THAT?
11:21:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT IT.
11:21:33AM >> WHAT OBJECTION DO YOU HAVE ON THE NAY?
HOW CAN I GET MORE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS
SATISFIED?
11:21:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT PASSED WITH ONE OBJECTION.
CALL MY OFFICE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
A WIN IS A WIN.
11:21:49AM >> OH, OKAY.
THANK YOU.
11:21:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE DO 85?
11:21:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU CAN'T, BECAUSE IT'S NOT 1:30.
11:22:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:22:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANTED TO MOVE ITEMS 91, 92, 93, AND 94.
11:22:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO MOVE 91, 92, 93, AND 94.
WHAT DID YOU DECIDE -- MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
11:22:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AGREE WITH 85.
11:22:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S MOVE TO 85.
11:22:23AM >> EMMA GREGORY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
HERE FOR NUMBER 85.
THIS IS A FIRST READING OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING
SECTION 22-308 PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION CODE, REALLY,
STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
BUT THIS UPDATES AND CLARIFIES THE STANDARDS FOR KEEPING
VISIBILITY AT INTERSECTIONS CLEAR FOR VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN
SAFETY.
IT WOULD BE ENFORCED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
WE RUN IT BY THEM AND THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF.
I HAVE ROBERT HATTON AND ADAM PURCELL FROM MOBILITY HERE IF
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS.
11:22:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
WE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:23:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST READINGS, THERE IS
NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:23:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY QUESTIONS?
VERY GOOD.
WHO WANTS TO READ THIS ONE?
GO AHEAD.
11:23:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, E2026-8, CHAPTER 22, AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CITY
OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 22, ARTICLE III,
DIVISION 3, SECTION 22-308, TREES, SHRUBBERY, ET CETERA,
OBSTRUCTING VISION OF DRIVERS OF MOTOR VEHICLES DECLARED IN
VIOLATION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:23:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:23:48AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 5, 2026
AT 10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:24:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHAT DID YOU DECIDE ABOUT 97?
11:24:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
97, OH, YES, MR. BRODY, THIS SHOULD TAKE ONE
MINUTE, IF I MAY.
JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, I DON'T HAVE HERE THE REVISIONS, BUT I
WAS GOING TO SAY, SO THIS IS WITH THE LYNCHING MARKER THAT
WE HAVE ON THE RIVERWALK.
I WANTED SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE PROPER NOTICE TO CITY
COUNCIL IN CASE IT'S EVER REMOVED.
I MADE TWO REVISIONS.
NUMBER ONE, INCLUDE THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY NAACP IN THAT
PROPER NOTICE.
NUMBER TWO, TAKE OUT THE LANGUAGE ON THANKS TO THE WORK OF
VIERA, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT -- THAT'S ALL.
THAT WILL COME BACK NOVEMBER.
11:24:53AM >> CARL BRODY, LEGAL.
NOVEMBER 4, RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL.
REALLY JUST OUTLINES WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA DISCUSSED.
ENSURE THAT WE DON'T REMOVE THAT MARKER BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
IS NOTIFIED.
11:25:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I'LL MOTION FOR THAT TO COME BACK ON
NOVEMBER 5 WITH THOSE --
11:25:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S ALREADY THERE.
11:25:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS IT ON FOR NOVEMBER 5?
ON THE CALENDAR?
11:25:21AM >>CARL BRODY:
WE'RE REQUESTING TO BRING IT BACK.
11:25:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO BRING BACK ITEM 97 FOR
THE ORDINANCE ON NOVEMBER 5, 2026.
11:25:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, CORRECTION.
THE MOTION ORIGINALLY SAID TO REPORT ON AN ORDINANCE.
IT APPEARS THE RESOLUTION IS GOING TO BE A RESOLUTION AS
OPPOSED TO AN ORDINANCE.
IS THAT CORRECT?
11:25:44AM >>CARL BRODY:
RIGHT.
FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE HAD DISCUSSION.
11:25:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THERE IS NO ORDINANCE, CORRECT?
11:25:50AM >>CARL BRODY:
CORRECT.
11:25:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU WORKED WITH A COUNCILMAN TO COME UP
WITH A RESOLUTION WITH WHAT HIS GOAL IS.
11:25:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S COMING BACK ON NOVEMBER 5.
11:25:58AM >>CARL BRODY:
NOVEMBER 5 WE'LL BRING A RESOLUTION BACK UPON
YOUR APPROVAL, WE'LL BRING A RESOLUTION BACK FOR APPROVAL.
11:26:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE GOAL OF THE RESOLUTION WILL BE FOR WHAT
PURPOSE?
11:26:09AM >>CARL BRODY:
TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS REQUESTED IN THE MOTION
THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY ON ITEM NUMBER 97, WHICH IS TO
ENSURE THAT THE MARKER IS NOT REMOVED WITHOUT NOTICE TO CITY
COUNCIL.
11:26:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT ON NOVEMBER 5,
2026, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
11:26:32AM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
11:26:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH.
11:26:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT 96?
11:26:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW LONG YOU NEED FOR 96?
11:26:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A TEN-MINUTE
DISCUSSION.
11:26:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE TO PAUSE THAT.
11:26:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT'S 11:28.
11:27:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS?
11:27:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE,
COUNCIL, I CAN HAND OUT WHAT'S ON THE ADDENDUM AND YOU CAN
MOVE THAT AND GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY WITH REGARD TO THE
APPOINTMENT POLICY AND PROCEDURES.
11:27:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
11:27:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY,
TALKING ABOUT THE OFF-AGENDA ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS ON THE
ADDENDUM.
THIS IS FINALIZING FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND TO GET THE PROCESS
STARTED TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE GUIDELINES AND THE
APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED.
AND I WANT TO THANK DAVID HERRERA FROM MARKETING PUTTING
THIS TOGETHER IN ITS FORM.
IT IS A PDF THAT'S -- THAT ALSO CAN BE FILLED OUT ONLINE AND
THEN PRINTED OUT ALREADY PREPRINTED.
VERY SIMPLE APPLICATION.
AS YOU SEE, THAT'S BEEN PREPARED THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE
CHAIRMAN.
IT REQUIRES A SUBMISSION WITH A RESUM , WHICH IS SET FORTH
IN THE GUIDELINES.
AS PART OF YOUR MOTION, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DIRECT THE
CLERK TO ADVERTISE AND POST IT.
JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICATION MAY BE
AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, ACCORDING
TO THE GUIDELINES, THE CLERK WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY
APPLICATIONS UNTIL THE VACANCY ACTUALLY EXISTS.
11:28:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHICH IS NOVEMBER 3.
11:28:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOVEMBER 3 AT 9 A.M.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE GUIDELINES AND THE
APPLICATION AND DIRECT THE CLERK TO PROVIDE NOTICE.
11:28:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND POST.
11:28:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AND POST.
11:28:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
YOUR BODY IS NOT EVEN COLD YET.
11:29:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I KNOW.
[ LAUGHTER ]
11:29:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WAS ANTICIPATING SOMEBODY ELSE BEING
HERE.
I GUESS WE'LL GO.
WE'LL STAY ON SCHEDULE.
11:29:21AM >>LUIS VIERA:
BY VIRTUE OF SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE,
SOMETHING IS UP.
11:29:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ARE PEOPLE WAITING TO GET THROUGH
SECURITY?
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GETTING RID OF
BAGGAGE TODAY.
THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S LAST OFFICIAL COUNCIL DAY.
WE ARE SAD TO SEE HIM GO.
A LOT OF HIS FRIENDS ARE SAD TO SEE HIM GO.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CTTV TO CUE THE VIDEO OF A LOT OF HIS
FRIENDS.
THANK YOU.
11:30:14AM >> COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR SISTER IN SERVICE, KATHY CASTOR.
YOU ARE A SMART, CARING, AND OUTGOING PUBLIC SERVANT FOR
YOUR TAMPA NEIGHBORS.
THANK YOU.
AS YOU BRING YOUR SERVICE ON THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO A
CLOSE, WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON YOUR
REMARKABLE IMPACT.
OVER THE LAST DECADE, YOU HAVE CONSISTENTLY PUT PEOPLE AND
PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST, WHILE NEVER LOSING SIGHT OF THE QUIET,
HARDWORKING CHAMPIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO SO OFTEN GO
UNNOTICED.
YOU'VE MADE IT A PRIORITY TO LIFT UP OTHERS AND CELEBRATE
THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.
WELL, TODAY, WE TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE YOU -- YOUR
TREMENDOUS RECORD OF SERVICE, YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND THE
LASTING DIFFERENCE YOU'VE MADE IN THE LIVES OF TAMPA
RESIDENTS, VETERANS, FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE AND FIRE,
THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, AND THOSE IN NEED.
PLUS, THE EXPANSION OF THE NEW TAMPA RECREATION CENTER, THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THREE NEW FIRE STATIONS, YOUR WORK TOWARD A
PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN, PASSAGE OF THE APPRENTICESHIP AND
RETURNING CITIZENS ORDINANCES, FLOODING ASSISTANCE FOR
HURRICANE HELENE AND MILTON VICTIMS.
YOU SECURED $20 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR PARKS IN NEW TAMPA.
BY THE END OF YOUR TERM, WHICH INCLUDES THE HARRISON
BOONSTOPPEL ALL ABILITIES PARK.
CREATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S MICHAEL PHILLIPS ALL
ABILITIES INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, AND EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE
MARKER ESTABLISHED ALONG THE RIVERWALK.
YOU SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF HART FOR THREE TERMS AND
CHAMPIONED THE 2019 WARRIOR GAMES HELD RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU'VE DONE ALL THIS WHILE RAISING YOUR
WONDERFUL SON.
A ROLE AND ACCOMPLISHMENT I KNOW MEANS MORE TO YOU THAN
ANYTHING ELSE.
YOUR LASTING IMPACT ON THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA WILL BE FELT FOR
GENERATIONS TO COME, AND WE KNOW YOU ARE JUST GETTING
STARTED.
LOVE YOU, LUIS AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
11:32:40AM >> HEY.
IT'S MAYOR JANE.
LUIS, THIS ONE IS FOR YOU.
FOR NEARLY A DECADE, YOU SERVED DISTRICT 7 WITH A HEART AND
REAL COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
WHETHER IT WAS STANDING UP FOR VETERANS AND WORKING FAMILIES
OR CHAMPIONING OUR SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY, YOU ALWAYS MADE
SURE PEOPLE HAD A VOICE.
PUBLIC SAFETY IS -- HAS ALWAYS BEEN PERSONAL FOR BOTH OF US.
YOU WERE A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR GIVING OUR POLICE OFFICERS
AND FIREFIGHTERS THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS AND TO
KEEP TAMPA SAFE.
YOU ALSO LEAVE BEHIND A LEGACY THROUGH THE CITY'S FIRST ALL
ABILITIES PARK AND OUR SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
IT WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR YEARS TO COME.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU, AND EVEN BETTER
GETTING TO CALL YOU MY FRIEND.
TALLAHASSEE IS GETTING A GOOD ONE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS NEXT CHAPTER REPRESENTING DISTRICT
67.
GO MAKE TAMPA PROUD, LUIS.
11:33:43AM >> LUIS, CONGRATULATIONS ON TEN YEARS OF SERVICE ON CITY
COUNCIL.
SOME OF MY FONDEST MEMORIES ARE WORKING WITH YOU ON THE
EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE TO GET THE LYNCHING MARKER AND
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR TAMPA PARKS.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
11:34:03AM >> HI, COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEN YEARS OF SERVICE AS A CITY COUNCILMAN
HERE IN OUR CITY.
YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE GOING TO MISS YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE YOUR
INVOLVEMENT IN SO MANY ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
CONGRATULATIONS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN YOUR NEW ROLE.
I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO MISS YOU AS A PARTNER AS WE DID ONE
PROJECT TOGETHER, AND THAT WAS HELPING OUR INMATES AS WE
PARTNER TOGETHER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
11:34:40AM >> HI, LUIS.
CONGRATULATIONS ON TEN YEARS ON THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AND TAKE IT FROM ONE WHO KNOWS,
IT IS HARD WORK, AND IT CAN BE VERY DIFFICULT AT TIMES, BUT
YOU HAVE ALWAYS HANDLED IT WITH GREAT GRACE AND CLASS.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US APPRECIATE.
YOU'RE GOING TO DO AN AMAZING JOB IN THE FLORIDA HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
AND ALL OF US LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN YOUR NEW
CAPACITY TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
11:35:11AM >> IT'S A BITTERSWEET DAY SAYING GOOD-BYE TO MY FRIEND,
COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT'S MEANT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO
SERVE NEXT TO YOU ON THE DAIS, REALLY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS.
YOU'VE BEEN AN INSPIRATION.
YOU ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR FOLKS WHO CAN'T STAND UP FOR
THEMSELVES.
YOU FOUGHT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, YOU FIGHT FOR FOLKS
WITH DISABILITIES, YOU FIGHT FOR FOLKS IN DISTRICT 7 LIKE
NOBODY ELSE COULD.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT CHAPTER IN YOUR LIFE,
GOING BACK TO TALLAHASSEE AND FIGHTING FOR ALL OF US IN THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CHEERING YOU ON IN TALLAHASSEE.
11:35:46AM >> ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT WORKING WITH LUIS, HIS
UNABASHED SUPPORT FOR THE ROUTE 1 PILOT PROGRAM AND
INCREASED FREQUENCY WE'VE DONE EVERY YEAR SINCE.
HE WAS A CHAMPION FROM THE GET-GO AND ALSO REALLY SUPPORTS
ALL OF PARKS.
HE SUPPORTS THE WORKERS, THE RIDERS, THE STAFF.
IT'S REALLY SOMETHING TO SEE.
11:36:07AM >> HEY, LUIS, IT IS YOUR FAVORITE KARAOKE PARTNER.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT TEN YEARS HAVE PASSED.
IT'S GONE BY IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE.
I ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU ON THE CITY COUNCIL, SERVING
ALONGSIDE YOU.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A DEEP LOVE AND DEEP PASSION FOR THE CITY
AND FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE ALWAYS GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS
AND THIS COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
I'LL MISS WORKING WITH YOU.
I'VE ENJOYED IT.
BUT I WISH YOU THE BEST MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE DOING GREAT THINGS, AND THIS IS JUST
THE BEGINNING.
11:36:37AM >> HI, EVERYBODY.
THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN NAYA YOUNG FOR DISTRICT 5.
IT HAS BEEN AMAZING TO WATCH.
HE IS SUCH A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, FOR
PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND PROGRAMS FOR YOUNG ADULTS AND
RECOGNIZING THE COMMUNITY AND GIVING COMMENDATIONS.
HOPEFULLY I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN BREAK HIS RECORD.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
FOR SERVING.
11:37:10AM >> CHARLIE MIRANDA, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 6.
I'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN
DISTRICT 7, LUIS VIERA.
HE BITES INTO SOMETHING, HE MAULS ON IT, BECAUSE HE IS THE
LEADER OF THE FAMOUS FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT CITY OF
TAMPA, ONE OF THE BEST FIVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE WHOLE
COUNTRY.
AND LUIS VIERA AS CHAIRMAN LED THE CHARGE.
HE WAS A CHAIRMAN THAT GOT THINGS DONE.
FOR INSTANCE, EVERY TIME CAME THIS FORWARD, HE GOT EXCITED
ABOUT NEW TAMPA AND THE FIRE STATION AND THE FIRE STATION
AND THE FIRE STATION.
EVIDENTLY THEY HAVE BUILT SOME GREAT ONES THERE.
I WANT TO THANK LUIS VIERA FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART AND
THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR WHAT HE'S DONE TO MAKE
THE CITY OF TAMPA SAFER.
MUCH, MUCH SAFER.
THANK YOU, LUIS.
11:38:00AM >> HEY, LUIS.
BOB BUCKHORN.
I JUST WANTED TO JOIN IN HERE AMONGST YOUR MANY FRIENDS TO
WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AS YOU HEAD TO TALLAHASSEE, OR AS YOU
SAY, THE ALASKA OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
TO QUOTE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, THE LAND OF HOPE AND DREAMS OR
MAYBE IT'S WHERE HOPE AND DREAMS GO TO DIE.
ANYWAY, BROTHER, YOU'VE HAD A GREAT RUN HERE.
I'VE ENJOYED SERVING WITH YOU.
WE HAD A REALLY, REALLY PRODUCTIVE EIGHT YEARS, AND I AM
HONORED TO BE YOUR FRIEND.
I AM HAPPY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE REPRESENTING US IN
TALLAHASSEE.
I AM FULLY CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL HAVE IN OUR FIRST YEAR IN
THE LEGISLATURE AT LEAST 20 NEW FIRE STATIONS FUNDED BY THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
I KNOW YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT GOING TO TALLAHASSEE AND TO
REPRESENTING TAMPA AND THE ENTIRE STATE BECAUSE INSTEAD OF
JUST A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND STREETS IN TAMPA, YOU NOW HAVE
MILLIONS OF STREETS THAT YOU CAN RENAME FOR RANDOM PEOPLE.
PROUD OF YOU.
LET'S GO DO THIS.
I'M GLAD TO HAVE AN ALLY AND FIGHTER IN TALLAHASSEE ON
TAMPA'S BEHALF.
CONGRATS, MY FRIEND.
11:39:21AM >> I FIRST ENCOUNTERED LUIS VIERA WHEN HE WAS ABOUT 16 YEARS
OLD WRITING LETTERS TO THE EDITOR OF THE OLD TAMPA TRIBUNE.
I THOUGHT, WHOA, THESE ARE THOUGHTFUL, COMPASSIONATE WORDS.
I WAS A STATE LEGISLATOR THEN.
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, THIS GUY NEEDS TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
AND SURE ENOUGH, 30 YEARS LATER, LUIS VIERA IS EXACTLY THE
SERVANT LEADER THAT I EXPECTED AND WE ALL EXPECT IN ALL OUR
ELECTED OFFICIALS.
HE LISTENS.
HE LEARNS, AND HE LEADS.
WE NEED A HUNDRED LUIS VIERAS IN TALLAHASSEE AND WASHINGTON.
11:39:56AM >> IT IS RIGHT TO GIVE PRAISE AND THANKS TO LUIS VIERA, WHO
HAS DEDICATED TEN YEARS TO SERVING US ON CITY COUNCIL,
SERVING NOT ONLY AS THE CHAIRMAN OF CITY COUNCIL, BUT ALSO
ON OTHER IMPORTANT COMMITMENTS TO THE CITY.
HE HAS CERTAINLY IMPROVED THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN TAMPA.
WE OWE HIM MUCH.
HE CERTAINLY IS A MINISTER OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:41:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M WAITING FOR THE TEARS.
NOW IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE THE MAYOR OF THE GREAT
CITY OF TAMPA, JANE CASTOR.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:41:48AM >>MAYOR CASTOR:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO COUNCIL.
LUIS, I HOPE YOU WERE SURPRISED.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT SURPRISES YOU.
BUT I HOPE THAT YOU WERE SURPRISED.
TO SEE EVERYONE THAT IS HERE RIGHT NOW TO HONOR THE SERVICE
THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR OUR CITY AND NOW ARE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE UP IN TALLAHASSEE, WE WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU.
ON THE RECORDED MESSAGES, THERE WAS GREAT DETAIL ABOUT ALL
OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, BUT I THINK THE
CONSISTENT THEMES WERE THAT YOU ARE A SERVANT OF ALL THE
PEOPLE.
YOU UNDERSTAND.
YOU LISTEN, AND YOU REPRESENT EVERYONE EQUALLY.
I THINK THAT THAT IS A GREAT CHARACTERISTIC TO HAVE.
AND THE VALUES THAT YOU HAVE AS AN INDIVIDUAL ARE MUCH
APPRECIATED.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'M OUT ON IS REPLACING
YOU IN KARAOKE.
BECAUSE I COULDN'T CARRY A TUNE IN A BUCKET, ALTHOUGH SOME
OF YOU GUYS CAN'T EITHER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO
PERSONAL ON THAT.
11:43:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HEY, WHY WOULD YOU LOOK AT ME?
11:43:05AM >>MAYOR CASTOR:
NO, I JUST SAID. I JUST SAID.
I DIDN'T MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH ANYBODY.
I LOVE THE WAY THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL.
NOT ONLY IN SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE AND LISTENING MORE THAN YOU
TALK, BUT ALSO IN THE WRITTEN WORD, AND ALWAYS ENTERTAINING
AS WELL WITH USING THE LINES FROM SONGS AND SO FORTH.
BUT ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT IS THE MOST TOUCHING FOR
ME ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, AND I'VE SEEN IT IN YOU EVERY SINGLE
DAY, AND THAT IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A GOOD DAD OR A GOOD
MOM.
I HAVE SEEN YOU AS YOUR SON HAS GROWN THROUGH THE YEARS, AND
YOU ARE AN INCREDIBLE FATHER TO YOUR SON.
AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
WE OWE YOU A DEBT OF GRATITUDE FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
AS WAS SAID, A LITTLE RAZZING ABOUT YOUR STREET NAMINGS,
WELL, WE COULDN'T LET THIS MOMENT PASS BY WITHOUT HAVING A
STREET SIGN OF YOUR OWN.
[ APPLAUSE ]
HERE WE GO.
NOT JUST A STREET SIGN, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE ADVICE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT THE LUIS VIERA WAY.
11:44:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
11:44:40AM >>MAYOR CASTOR:
MAYOR YOU ARE MOST WELCOME.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:45:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK YOU SHOULD DO A POSE FOR THE
CAMERAS OVER HERE.
11:45:05AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:45:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE NOTICES THE TV CAMERAS.
WATCH THE SOCIAL MEDIA.
HE KNOWS A CAMERA.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS BEEN
THE CHAIR OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
AS WAS SAID IN MANY OF THOSE VIDEOS, HE'S BEEN SUCH AN
OUTSPOKEN ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE WORKERS AND OUR
FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS OUR POLICE AND SAFETY
OFFICERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE FOLKS TO COME
UP AND GIVE A FEW REMARKS.
REPRESENTATIVES FROM 754, FIREFIGHTERS UNION, COULD YOU COME
UP, PLEASE?
PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
11:46:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR TO BE HERE AND TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
RECOGNIZING COUNCILMAN LUIS VIERA.
I AM NICK STOCCO, THE PRESIDENT OF IFF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS
LOCAL 754.
FOR NEARLY A DECADE, PRIOR TO THAT DECADE WHEN LUIS WAS BORN
IN THE BASEMENT OF OUR UNION HALL --
[ LAUGHTER ]
-- HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF FIREFIGHTERS AND TAMPA
FIREFIGHTERS AND ALL FIREFIGHTERS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OF SERVICE, AND LUIS VIERA IS THAT PERSON
OF SERVICE.
LUIS, YOU HAVE BEEN AN OUTSTANDING ELECTED OFFICIAL,
REPRESENTATIVE, CHAIRMAN OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE TAMPA
FIREFIGHTERS.
THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE ELECTED INTO OFFICE CAN SAY THAT THEY
SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THERE ARE FEW THAT ACTUALLY DO.
AND YOU DO JUST THAT.
THROUGH ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS, WE'VE SEEN IT, AND IT'S BEEN
PROVEN THROUGH ALL OF YOUR VOTES AND VOICES.
THROUGH THE COUNTLESS HOLIDAYS THAT YOU'VE SPENT YOUR TIME
IN THE SECOND HOME AT A FIRE STATION SITTING NEXT TO
FIREFIGHTERS WHILE BREAKING A DOUGHNUT OR SHARING THE
T-SHIRT THAT YOU WORE THAT DAY, WHILE MOST PEOPLE WISH THEY
WERE WITH THEIR FAMILY ON HOLIDAYS, YOU CAME TO US AND SPENT
TIME WITH OUR FAMILY AND OUR FIRE STATIONS.
WE TRULY APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
YOU'VE BEEN MONUMENTAL IN VARIOUS ITEMS THROUGHOUT YOUR TEN
YEARS.
I'M JUST THANKFUL AND HONORED TO BE HERE AND SAY THANK YOU
FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT FRIEND.
I REMEMBER OUR COUNTLESS PHONE CALLS, WHETHER THEY BE LATE
AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND YOU TRULY ARE A GREAT
PERSON.
SO THANK YOU, BUDDY.
WE DON'T HAVE A STREET SIGN, BUT WE DO HAVE, WHILE YOU MAKE
YOUR WAY TO TALLAHASSEE, WE KNOW YOU ARE A MAN OF OFFICE AND
THAT YOU WOULD LIKE SOME NEW OFFICE DECORATIONS.
WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS TO PRESENT YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:48:26AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
11:48:29AM >> WE PUT OUR PICTURES IN THERE SO YOU COULD REMEMBER US.
11:48:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS GREAT.
11:48:37AM >> WE GOT YOU A LUIS VIERA TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS POLO.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:48:44AM >> TALLAHASSEE TRAVEL BAG.
11:49:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU, WALTER.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
11:49:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS CHARITY FUND PRESIDENT ALEX CANASI,
ALONGSIDE WITH EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER WES STEPHENS,
TREASURER JACE KOHAN, AND MY VICE PRESIDENT MATT KOHAN.
I'M GOING TO RELINQUISH THE MIKE TODAY BECAUSE A VERY DEAR
AND OLD FRIEND OF YOURS WHO IS ON OUR BOARD HAS SOME SPECIAL
THINGS TO SAY, AND NO ONE COULD SAY IT BETTER THAN HIM.
11:49:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
11:49:33AM >> JACE KOHAN.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS CHARITY.
ALSO, I'M PRESIDENT OF THE LUIS VIERA FAN CLUB.
[ LAUGHTER ]
MAN, I REMEMBER WHEN IT ALL BEGAN.
I WAS REPRESENTING THE UNION AT THE TIME, AND WE HAD MANY
CONVERSATIONS.
I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
THE FIREFIGHTERS.
I COULD JUST TELL THE PASSION IN HIS HEART.
IT'S NEVER LEFT.
SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THE SUPPORT OF THE
CHARITY FUND THAT RUNS CAMP HOPETAKE, PEDIATRIC BURN
SURVIVOR CAMP.
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE EVERY YEAR FOR THE CAMP.
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR THE 5K RACE.
WHAT YEAR DID YOU WIN THE RACE, LUIS?
11:50:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, HELL NO.
I CAN'T EVEN COMPETE.
11:50:24AM >> LUIS WEARS MANY HATS.
MARATHON RUNNER ISN'T ONE OF THEM.
LUIS, THANK YOU.
I KNOW YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB IN TALLAHASSEE.
WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.
YOU'LL NEED A BIG WALL THERE.
11:50:40AM >> WE KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE YOUR WALL DECORATIONS.
GOOD COMPANY GOING UP ALONGSIDE.
PROUD TO GIVE THAT TO YOU, SIR.
11:50:56AM >> REALLY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
I DO HAVE ONE REQUEST.
MAYBE A PARKING SPOT ON LUIS VIERA WAY SINCE YOU ARE LEAVING
TOWN.
[ LAUGHTER ]
11:51:10AM >> THANK YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:51:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM THE PBA WOULD LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.
11:52:11AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
I HAD ALL THESE WORDS WRITTEN OUT.
IT WAS A LONG SPEECH.
A LOT TO BRAG ABOUT WITH LUIS VIERA.
I'LL CONDENSE IT DOWN VERY SHORT.
NOT ONLY IS HE A GREAT POLITICIAN, NOT ONLY DOES HE
REPRESENT THE CITY OF TAMPA WELL, HE IS A TREMENDOUS
RESOURCE TO FIRST RESPONDERS.
BOTH POLICE AND FIRE.
I PURPOSELY DID NOT BRING YOUR PLAQUE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLAQUE WAS LARGER THAN THE
FIRE PLAQUE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
NOW THAT WE KNOW THE SIZE, WE'LL HAVE IT TAKE UP THE WHOLE
WALL.
SERIOUSLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
APPRECIATE YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:52:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL, ANYBODY WANT TO SAY WORDS?
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:52:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW WE DID OUR VIDEO, THIS IS LUIS
VIERA MOMENT.
11:53:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SIT IN YOUR CHAIR.
YOU DON'T HAVE MANY TIMES LEFT.
11:53:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I KNOW WE DID OUR VIDEO AND GAVE SOME
BRIEF COMMENTS, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS.
I HAVE A WHOLE PHOTO GALLERY OF ALL OF OUR GOOD MOMENTS AND
FUNNY TIMES AND FUNNY PHOTOS TOGETHER.
BUT I'VE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU.
I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
GO TO TALLAHASSEE, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO DO GREAT THINGS.
I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.
YOU ARE JUST A GOOD GUY.
WHEN I SAY I'M THE NICEST PERSON IN TAMPA NOT NAMED LUIS
VIERA, I ALWAYS DEFER TO YOU.
CLEARLY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THE UNIONS HAVE
SPOKEN, THE PEOPLE IN THE VIDEO HAVE SPOKEN.
YOU HAVE DONE A HELL OF A JOB IN TAMPA, AND YOU'VE MADE YOUR
MARK.
YOU ARE IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE
REMEMBERED AS A CHAMPION FOR PEOPLE WITHOUT A VOICE, PEOPLE
OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE
STORM DAMAGE FROM TWO YEARS AGO.
YOU ARE JUST A GREAT GUY.
THE MAYOR SAID IT, YOU ARE A WONDERFUL FATHER.
THAT'S WHAT I ADMIRE MOST ABOUT YOU, AS BUSY AS YOU ARE --
EVEN MY FATHER SAYS IT AND I'VE TOLD YOU THIS -- WHY CAN'T
YOU BE MORE LIKE VIERA?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I GO, THE GUY DOESN'T STOP.
HE DOESN'T STOP.
HE'S EVERYWHERE.
BUT YOU ALWAYS PUT YOUR SON FIRST.
YOU HAVE A GREAT SON.
AND THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT.
YOU DON'T FORGET FAMILY.
THAT'S IT.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU.
IT WILL BE WEIRD LOOKING THAT DIRECTION AND NOT SEEING -- NO
OFFENSE TO ANYBODY, BUT, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
RUNNING AND WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENTS.
THERE WILL NEVER BE SOMEONE OF YOUR CALIBER TO REPRESENT
THAT DISTRICT.
YOU HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:54:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I SEE BRANDON IN THE AUDIENCE.
BRANDON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING?
THIS IS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S LONG --
11:55:10AM >> I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY IN THIS OFFICE THAT THIS MATTER IS
OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION WAS NOT A RESPONSE THAT WE WOULD
BE UNDERTAKING.
LUIS IS EVERYWHERE DOING EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE.
THE ROOM IS PACKED TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH LOVE FOR
YOU AND THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
PLEASURE TO BE A PART OF IT.
TRUE HONOR AND JUST GOING TO MISS YOU HERE AND EXCITED FOR
WHAT'S TO COME.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:55:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL CLOSE IT OUT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, I CONSIDER YOU A DEAR FRIEND.
YOU ARE A ROLE MODEL.
YOU ARE EXCEPTIONAL AT THE JOB OF OBVIOUSLY BEING A FATHER
AS I'VE WITNESSED THAT AS WELL.
I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING YOUR SON.
YOU ARE AN EXCEPTIONAL MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE AN EXCEPTIONAL MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE.
I THINK THAT YOU PROBABLY NEED TO SEEK SOME MENTAL HEALTH
BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO GO UP THERE.
FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD VOLUNTEER
TO DO THAT, BUT THERE YOU GO.
I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF YOUR GOALS AND
FIGHT FOR FOLKS AGAIN THAT CAN'T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES IN
TALLAHASSEE.
WE NEED MORE LUIS VIERAS IN TALLAHASSEE.
I'M PROUD THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GO UP THERE AND TAKE ON THAT
CHAMPION.
I WAS WONDERING, BEFORE WE SEND EVERYBODY DOWNSTAIRS, COULD
YOU CLOSE US OUT WITH A SONG?
[ LAUGHTER ]
BABY I WAS BORN TO RUN.
11:56:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
I HAVEN'T SPOKEN MUCH.
I'M USUALLY THE HUMOROUS GUY.
YESTERDAY I WAS REALLY NERVOUS WHEN I GOT A CALL FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
IT SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME.
I SAID, WHAT HAVE I DONE?
WHEN I ANSWERED THE PHONE, THEY SAID ARE YOU CHARLIE
MIRANDA?
I SAID YES, SIR.
SAID, DO YOU KNOW LUIS VIERA, I SAID YES, SIR.
HE SAID, WELL, WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE IT
FOR YOU.
WE DO TREE STUDIES IN THE CITY FROM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
FLORIDA AND WE PAY FOR IT, THEY DO THE TREES AND TELL US HOW
MANY TREES NEED TO BE PLANTED.
THEY SAID IS IT TRUE THAT HE'S LEAVING?
I SAID, YES, I THINK TOMORROW IS HIS LAST DAY.
HE SAID, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, MR. MIRANDA, BY
HIM LEAVING SAVED ME 22,000,712 TREES.
THEY CALLED YOU TOO?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I SAID, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
HE SAID, WE FIGURED OUT THE AMOUNT OF COMMENDATIONS HE'S
GIVEN OUT, YOUR TREE CANOPY WILL BE SOLVED IN THREE MONTHS.
YOU'LL HAVE MORE TREES THAN WE EVER COUNTED IN ANY CITY
BECAUSE THEY GAVE OUT 22,000,912 COMMENDATIONS WHEN HE WAS
HERE, AND EACH ONE WAS MADE IN WOOD.
LUIS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SOLVING OUR TREE ISSUE IN THE
CITY.
I HAD THE HONOR OF SITTING CLOSE TO YOU.
AND MS. HENDERSON FOR THAT SHORT TIME SHE WAS WITH US.
I REALLY ENJOYED YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
I KNOW YOUR HEART IS BIGGER THAN YOUR BODY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
11:58:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO NOW I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE
DOWN TO THE SECOND FLOOR FOR A CELEBRATION OF COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
IF YOU HAVE ANY GRIEVANCES, YOU CAN LINE UP AND EXPRESS
THOSE.
11:58:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I STARTED SEEING PEOPLE LIKE JACE
AND CARLOS, ONE OF OUR GREAT HERO COPS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I'LL START CRYING.
I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK, CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN, CHAIRWOMAN YOUNG FOR BEING IN
THAT VIDEO.
ALL OF YOU ALL.
I COULD SAY GREAT THINGS ABOUT ALL OF YOU ALL.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, JUST AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU.
YOU ARE A FREAKIN' LEGEND.
YOU REALLY ARE.
I KNOW YOU ARE HUMBLE.
YOU ARE A FREAKIN' LEGEND.
WE SHARED SPECIAL MOMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST YEAR.
AND GUIDO MANISCALCO, YOU'RE JUST A HELL OF A GOOD GUY.
GOOD PERSON.
YOU ARE A GOOD DAD, GREAT HUSBAND.
GREAT SON, GREAT SIBLINGS.
YOU ARE A GOOD ROMAN CATHOLIC, A GOOD PERSON.
I MEAN IT, YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON.
ALL THE PEOPLE DEALING WITH THE WORLD OF FOLKS OF
DISABILITIES THAT YOU CHAMPION THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE AMAZING.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I ALWAYS SAY THIS ABOUT YOU.
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN WHEN THEY TOLD YOU TO SIT DOWN, YOU STOOD
UP.
AND YOU DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
YOU ALWAYS STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN AND NEVER --
MENTIONED ROUTE 1, THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE LEGACY THINGS.
YOU ARE A TREMENDOUS FIGHTER.
YOU REALLY HAVE MY ADMIRATION.
CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN, YOU ARE JUST A GENTLEMAN.
GOOD PERSON.
CHAMPION OF WORKING PEOPLE.
YOU ARE A GREAT FATHER.
GOOD PERSON.
HONORED TO CALL YOU A FRIEND.
LOVE YOU.
I MEAN IT.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, YOU ARE A LOVELY SOUL.
YOU HAVE A BIG HEART.
YOU ARE WONDERFUL.
YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON, AND YOU HAVE AN AMAZING CAREER IN
PUBLIC SERVICE.
I HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT YOU ONE DAY, 10, 20 YEARS, MAYOR
YOUNG, CONGRESSWOMAN YOUNG, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU HAVE A BIG
DEAL AHEAD OF YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BIG HEART.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS NOT HERE, OF COURSE, AND HE IS A
FERVENT CHAMPION FOR THE THINGS HE BELIEVES IN AND PUSHES
FOR, WE SALUTE HIS SERVICE AND SO FORTH.
AND MAYOR JANE CASTOR, JUST AN HONOR SERVING WITH YOU.
I MEAN THAT.
YOU ARE A GOOD WOMAN.
YOU ALWAYS CHAMPION PUBLIC SAFETY.
THE BIGGEST THING I LOVE ABOUT YOU IS, IS THAT YOU ARE
HUMBLE AND NOTHING FAZES YOU.
YOU ARE LIKE, DUDE, I SERVED AS A COP FOR 30 YEARS.
YOU ARE AMAZING.
PUBLIC SERVANTS, STATE SENATOR ELECT FENTRICE DRISKELL.
I'VE KNOWN YOU 15 YEARS.
BACK TO THE DAYS OF THE HISPANIC BAR ASSOCIATION.
LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I LOVE TO YOU DEATH.
YOU'RE AMAZING.
A WONDERFUL PERSON.
JUST A GREAT FLORIDA LEADER AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER MYERS
AND COHEN I KNOW I SAW HERE.
FORMER TAMPA CITY COUNCILMAN AND CITY ATTORNEY AND COUNTY
ATTORNEY CHIP FLETCHER WHO IS HERE.
JUDGE EJ SALCINES, WORDS CAN'T SAY HOW MUCH I ADMIRE YOU AS
A HISPANIC ATTORNEY, YOU ARE OUR GEORGE WASHINGTON, AND YOU
KNOW THAT.
THE FACT WHAT WE'LL DO ON 27th WITH BALDOMERO -- [SPEAKING
SPANISH] -- AND FOR MY FRIENDS IN POLICE AND FIRE, I LOVE
YOU GUYS A LOT.
FOR ME, IT'S ALWAYS FROM THE HEART FOR YOU ALL.
YOU ALL ARE THE BEST.
YOU ALL REALLY ARE.
I'LL END THIS BY SAYING IF I MAY FOR THIS OFFICE'S SUCCESS
WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT THE HEART OF THIS OFFICE
FOR EIGHT YEARS.
A WOMAN WHO IS AN AMAZING PERSON.
SHE IS MY SISTER.
SHE IS AN AMAZING PERSON, AMAZING TAMPANIA, WONDERFUL WIFE,
WONDERFUL MOTHER, VERY DECENT PERSON, BRANDON
LET'S GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
BRANDON KNOWS ME TOO WELL.
SHE KNOWS I AM A GOOD PERSON BUT A LITTLE CRAZY.
I COULD TALK A LOT MORE, BUT I SHAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
PEOPLE OF EXCEPTIONAL INTEGRITY.
THE FIRST BLACK OFFICER IN THE UNITED STATES TO BECOME A
GENERAL.
THAT'S IT.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
JUST EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE.
I COULD TALK A LOT.
12:02:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOING DOWNSTAIRS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO TALK.
SECOND FLOOR, EVERYBODY COME DOWNSTAIRS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
WE WILL BE BACK AT 1:00.
[LUNCH RECESS]
1:04:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
1:04:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:04:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:04:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:04:43PM >> YOUNG?
VIERA?
CARLSON?
CLENDENIN?
1:04:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:04:47PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
THANK YOU.
YES, SIR.
WE'RE DOING 87, 88, 89 TOGETHER.
1:04:58PM >> BRETT OWEN, ACTING CHIEF OF POLICE.
I HAVE WITH ME TIM SHRIVER FROM PEREGRINE TO TALK ABOUT THIS
CONTRACT.
PEREGRINE IS BASICALLY A COMMON OPERATING PICTURE TO ALLOW
US SOME EFFICIENCIES WITH OUR PERSONNEL AND CALLS FOR
SERVICE AND OUR CRIME.
WE ARE LOOKING TO INTEGRATE THOSE THREE THINGS THAT ARE
ALREADY EXISTING DATA SETS INTO ONE PLATFORM WHERE OUR
COMMANDERS AND OUR SUPERVISORS CAN SEE IT ALL AT ONE TIME IN
REAL TIME AND MAKE DECISIONS ON DEPLOYMENTS.
IT WILL BE HANDY FOR THINGS LIKE HALLOWEEN EVENTS THAT ARE
COMING UP, GASPARILLA IN JANUARY, SOME OF THE LARGE-SCALE
EVENTS TO THAT NATURE.
MR. SHRIVER CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ACCESS
CONTROLS AND THE AUDIT TRAILS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT
SYSTEM.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A 14-MONTH CONTRACT STARTING IN
NOVEMBER OF 2026 AND ENDING IN JANUARY OF 2028.
1:05:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT ON
THE ISSUE?
1:05:48PM >> JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
1:05:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS?
WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT
CORRECTLY.
SO THE PROGRAM IS NOT TAKING IN ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
IT IS JUST BASICALLY A SOFTWARE APPLICATION THAT IS ABLE TO
BRING IN DATA THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS INTO ONE PROGRAM.
1:06:14PM >> YES, SIR.
WE CURRENTLY USE ORACLE FOR PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT.
WE HAVE OUR AXON BODY WORN CAMERAS GOING INTO IT AND RECORDS
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND
THE CRIME REPORTS.
THEY WILL INTEGRATE THOSE INTO ONE PLATFORM WHERE YOU CAN
SEE THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.
1:06:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND NO FURTHER INTEGRATION TO LIKE
ADDITIONAL CAMERAS OR ANYTHING?
1:06:31PM >> NO.
ANY ADDITIONAL WOULD COST ADDITIONAL MONIES THAT WE'RE NOT
PREPARED TO HANDLE.
1:06:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SPOKE TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS THIS
MORNING.
I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE WHEN THIS
WENT THROUGH PROCUREMENT WAS FOR YOU TO ASK TO BE ABLE TO BE
CONNECTED WITH THE SYSTEMS THAT GO ACROSS THE STATE.
I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT AND KEEP IT
INTERNAL, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS THEY ARE
CONCERNED THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS GOING FORWARD, BUT JUST BECAUSE I HAVE
TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS,
YEAH, THAT'S ALL.
1:07:15PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
1:07:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
1:07:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WAIT UNTIL WE GET ANOTHER MEMBER.
1:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET COUNCILMAN VIERA
UP HERE.
1:07:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HE'LL BE ANOTHER HOUR.
THERE'S FIVE.
1:07:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THAT IT?
NO OTHER QUESTIONS?
OKAY.
I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS 87, 88, 89.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
1:07:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
1:07:51PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON ABSENT.
1:07:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD.
1:08:01PM >> THANK YOU.
1:08:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE NEXT ONE IS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S.
1:08:18PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUNIOR, CAN WE FIND COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
COMPEL HIM -- UNDER CHAIR'S ORDER, HE IS COMPELLED TO RETURN
TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WHEN HE GETS BACK, WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO NUMBER 90.
1:08:38PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:08:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO.
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I KNOW -- I'LL GIVE YOU SOME DEFERENCE.
WHAT HAPPENS, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PRIOR TO MEETINGS IN THE
MORNING, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO ON-AGENDA ITEMS, THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP AND REGISTER FOR ON-AGENDA ITEMS.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU SIGN UP THAT YOU CAN
SPEAK TO OFF-AGENDA ITEMS PRIOR TO LUNCH.
AND THEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITIES YOU
HAVE TO SPEAK.
1:09:12PM >> THIS IS THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND THEN CHANGED IT UNTIL
AFTER LUNCH --
1:09:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SORRY.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
I'M SORRY, SIR.
YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.
1:09:23PM >> YOU JUST COMMITTED A CRIME AGAINST THIS NATION AND EVERY
SOLDIER THAT STANDS BY THEIR OATH YOU ARE AT WAR WITH.
YOU CAN TELL THE POLICE CHIEF THAT.
EVERY SOLDIER IN THE UNITED STATES, THE TRUTH IS TO STAND BY
THEIR OATH, YOU JUST COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST THIS NATION --
1:09:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M SORRY.
1:09:41PM >> [INDISCERNIBLE]
1:10:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THOSE THREE ITEMS TO
BE THAT QUICK.
WE COULD SING.
MS. KOPESKY COULD SING FOR US.
MR. PERRY, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, WOULD YOU MOSEY ON UP TO
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
1:10:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FOR 90?
1:10:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:10:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR PURPOSES OF THE AGENDA,
COULD YOU TELL US WHICH ITEMS YOU ARE PLANNING?
1:10:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE WAITING FOR 1:30 TO DO THE TIME
CERTAIN AND 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
RIGHT NOW, ONLY OUTSTANDING ITEMS, ITEM 90 AND 96.
1:11:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
95?
1:11:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WHY DON'T WE SWITCH TO YOUR ITEM 96.
1:11:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS THE POOL.
WE HAVE MS. PANCHO HERE, IF I MAY.
COMMISSIONER COHEN AND I DID A COMMUNITY MEETING TO TALK
ABOUT THE HIGH INCIDENCE OF PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND
INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES HAVING DROWNING DEATHS.
WE TRIED TO CONVENE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO LOWER
THAT NUMBER.
MS. PANCHO HAS A NUMBER OF ISSUES HERE.
I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONTINUE WITH THIS SO WE CAN HAVE
CONTINUED DIALOGUE.
1:12:10PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE
INFORMATION ON THE DROWNING PREVENTION WORKSHOP THAT WAS
HELD EARLIER THIS MONTH.
1:12:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STATE YOUR NAME.
1:12:22PM >> I WANT TO THANK MAYOR CASTOR, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
1:12:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
START WITH YOUR NAME.
1:12:28PM >> RAQUEL PANCHO, AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I WANT TO THANK TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR CASTOR, CHIEF OF
STAFF JOHN BENNETT AND CITY ADMINISTRATORS AND ALL CITY
STAFF FOR YOUR DILIGENCE AND ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
ADDRESSING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS' NEEDS WHO HAVE
DISABILITIES.
BASICALLY, DURING THIS TOWN HALL, SEVERAL THINGS WERE
BROUGHT UP BY FAMILY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATES.
BASICALLY, FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS OF INDIVIDUALS AND ADULTS
WITH AUTISM HAVE DISCUSSED THAT BASICALLY FAMILIES AREN'T
AWARE OF THE VARIOUS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE READILY
AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE LOW COST
AND AVAILABLE, BUT MANY TIMES THEY ARE NOT AWARE.
SO THEY DON'T HEAR THIS INFORMATION FROM THEIR PHYSICIANS ON
DROWNING PREVENTION.
THEY ARE NOT QUITE AWARE OF THE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES WITH
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR TRACKING DEVICES IN CASE OF
INCIDENCES THAT THEIR LOVED ONES.
WHAT THEY ASKED FOR WAS FREQUENT COMMUNICATIONS THROUGHOUT
MULTIPLE CHANNELS TO EDUCATE THEM ON THE VARIOUS RESOURCES
THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, PEDIATRICIANS, TEACHERS, GOVERNMENT STAFF
SHOULD BE FREQUENTLY HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
FAMILIES ABOUT THE VARIOUS RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED OFFERING PARENT SUPPORT AND CAREGIVER
SUPPORT GROUPS SO THAT THERE COULD BE NETWORKING
OPPORTUNITIES SO THEY MAY BE ABLE TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER
ABOUT THE DIFFERENT RESOURCES.
SO SOME VERY SPECIFIC DROWNING PREVENTION REQUESTS THAT WERE
MADE DURING THIS TOWN HALL WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF BARRIERS
AROUND ANY TYPE OF OPEN WATER.
WE HAVE POOLS, BUT POOLS TYPICALLY HAVE FENCING
REQUIREMENTS, BARRIER REQUIREMENTS AROUND THEM.
BUT THERE AREN'T REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE OPEN
WATERS, OUR PONDS, OUR LAKES AND SUCH.
THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DROWNINGS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH
AUTISM HAVE OCCURRED.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE AVAILABLE AFFORDABLE DOOR
LOCKS AND POOL ALARMS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO
READILY ACCESS.
THEY RECOMMENDED SELF-RESCUE SWIM LESSONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE
KEY THING, NOT ONLY BASIC SWIM LESSONS BUT SWIM LESSONS
EARLY ON.
AFFORDABLE SWIM LESSONS AS WELL.
I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PARKS AND REC, AND THEY HAVE NOW
REGISTERED 15 PARKS AND REC TEAM MEMBERS WITH A PROGRAM
THAT'S BEING OFFERED BY THE CENTER FOR AUTISM RELATED
DISABILITIES.
THE ERNIE ELLS GAME ON AUTISM AQUATICS PROGRAM.
IT IS AN EVIDENCE-BASED TRAINING FOR TEACHING SWIM AND WATER
SAFETY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH AUTISM.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT PARKS AND REC ACTUALLY HAS
REGISTERED 15 TEAM MEMBERS TO TAKE THOSE CLASSES AND
HOPEFULLY WE CAN START OFFERING THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT MANDATORY CURRICULUM SHOULD
INVOLVE SWIM SAFETY IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AS WELL.
LASTLY, THEY ALSO ASKED FOR MORE CPR TRAININGS AS WELL.
PARENTS HAVE SHARED DURING THIS TOWN HALL THAT THEY ARE
OFTENTIMES OVERWHELMED WITH EVERYTHING WITH THEIR LIVES,
WITH CHILDREN, SCHOOL, WORK RESPONSIBILITIES AND SUCH,
THERAPIES.
SO THE MORE FREQUENT THAT OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR SWIM
LESSONS, THEY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THOSE.
AGAIN, JUST CONSTANT REMINDERS ABOUT THE VARIOUS RESOURCES
THAT ARE READILY AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
1:16:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING?
1:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT DAWN HENDERSON WAS THERE, WAS THE
GRANDMOTHER OF THE LATE JOSIAH WHO HAD DROWNED YOUNG,
KINDERGARTEN WITH AUTISM.
SO TRAGIC.
HE DROWNED OUT IN THE COUNTY.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY HER NAME AND SPEAK HIS NAME.
GOD BLESS THEM AND GOD BLESS HIS MEMORY.
I KNOW HE WAS BEING RAISED BY A SINGLE FATHER.
IT'S AWFUL.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT -- I'M LOOKING AT A NOTE -- I
APOLOGIZE -- THAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS.
I DO KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER HARRY COHEN HAS MADE A MOTION
FOR THIS ISSUE AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION, JUMPING ON THIS.
WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO, AND YOU PUT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
THINGS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE IF OUR HEALTH
INSURANCE OR WELLNESS PLANS COULD INCLUDE AS A BENEFIT FOR
EMPLOYEES WITH CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES OR WITH
DIFFERENTLY ABLED, ET CETERA, SWIMMING LESSONS AND SO FORTH,
JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS TO HAVE MY FRIEND, COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO WHO IS PERSONALLY TOUCHED BY THIS WITH HIS
WONDERFUL DAUGHTER, PERHAPS MAKE A MOTION ON IT TO COME BACK
PERHAPS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH, WHICH I THINK IS APRIL.
I SHOULD KNOW THAT.
THANK YOU, MS. PANCHO, YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
1:17:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:17:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS UP
BECAUSE IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TERRIFIES ME BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER WHO
IS 14.
SHE HAPPENS -- SHE'S SEVERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SPECTRUM
AND EVERYTHING.
AND SHE LOVES THE WATER.
WITH MY WIFE AND HER DAD, WE MADE SURE TO GET HER SWIMMING
LESSONS, REGARDLESS.
SHE'S VERY GOOD IN THE POOL.
REGARDLESS, WE MONITOR HER 24/7.
IF SHE'S IN THE POOL, I'M THERE WITH HER.
SHE LOVES BEING IN THE BATH.
I CALL HER A LITTLE MERMAID BECAUSE SHE LOVES THE WATER.
SOMEBODY HAS TO BE THERE AT ALL TIMES.
CAN SHE HANDLE IT?
YES.
BUT WE'VE HEARD TOO MANY STORIES.
IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PARENTS BECAUSE THERE'S SINGLE PARENT
HOMES.
MAYBE THERE'S TWO PARENTS.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THEY ARE DEALING WITH LIFE AND THEN YOU
ARE A CAREGIVER 24/7.
FOR EXAMPLE, SHE WAS AWAKE THIS MORNING AT ABOUT 2:30 AND
YESTERDAY AT 2:30 AND I'VE BEEN AWAKE AT 2:30 BECAUSE YOU'VE
GOT TO MONITOR THESE KIDS.
YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF STUFF.
DOOR LOCKS AND POOL ALARMS.
THESE KIDS WILL WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
THEY ELOPE IS WHAT THEY CALL IT.
OPEN A WINDOW, OPEN A DOOR.
WE HAVE DEAD BOLTS.
I MAKE SURE SHE DOESN'T SEE ME TURN THE KEY BECAUSE SHE'LL
LEARN HOW TO DO STUFF.
SWIMMING LESSONS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
WE'VE DONE THAT.
MANDATORY CURRICULUM AT SCHOOLS.
AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND CPR TRAINING.
I WORRY ABOUT CHOKING, AND I WORRY ABOUT IN THE SITUATION
WHEN THERE IS A CHILD OR ANYBODY THAT HAS DROWNED OR THERE
IS A SITUATION WHEN YOU NEED PARAMEDICS, WHEN SECONDS COUNT,
THEY ARE MINUTES AWAY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU SUGGESTED ABOUT MAKING A MOTION, WHAT,
FOR AN UPDATE TO COME BACK IN APRIL?
1:19:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOUR WISDOM AND OBVIOUSLY WHITNEY AND
VALERIE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU IN THEIR LIVES AND GOD
BLESS YOU FOR THAT.
I WOULD SAY A MOTION TO COME BACK ON THESE IDEAS INCLUDING,
NUMBER ONE, WORKING WITH THEM.
IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
AND INCLUDING LOOKING AT OUR WELLNESS PLANS FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO PROVIDE SWIMMING LESSONS
FREE FOR FAMILIES.
1:20:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 5.
COMMISSIONER COHEN I KNOW IS WORKING ON STUFF AT THE COUNTY.
I WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND THEN I'LL REACH OUT TO
YOU.
AGAIN, WE SEE TOO MANY TERRIBLE STORIES IN THE NEWS.
I CAN'T EVEN READ THEM ANYMORE.
WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IN HELPING
AND HELP PREPARE ANYONE TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF SITUATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:20:39PM >> AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'VE SHARED ACTUALLY WAS REPEATED MANY TIMES
THAT EVENING.
THE KIDS ARE SMART.
ONE PERSON DESCRIBED THAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBER, STACKED
CHAIRS AND BOOKS IN ORDER TO GET UP TO THAT LOCK TO BE ABLE
TO ESCAPE AND ELOPE.
IT IS QUITE A CHALLENGE.
APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION OF THAT AND SUPPORT FOR THIS
INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU.
1:21:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ITEM NUMBER 90.
LET'S KNOCK IT OUT.
ITEM NUMBER 90.
STAFF, ANYBODY WANT TO PRESENT SOMETHING ON THIS?
MR. SCOTT STEADY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHAT 90 ACTUALLY
DOES?
1:21:35PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I JUST WALKED IN.
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, SCOTT STEADY, CITY
ATTORNEY.
NUMBER 90 DEFINITELY RELATES TO THE RAYS.
WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS TRULY WHAT THIS ISSUE IS, IT
DEALS WITH THE $80 MILLION OBLIGATION THAT THE CITY
CURRENTLY HAS.
THE APPROPRIATE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE, BECAUSE WE HAVE
THAT OBLIGATION IS TO TAKE IT TO THE COURT AND VALIDATE TO
CONFIRM THAT IT'S LEGAL AND AUTHORIZED.
THAT'S THE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT YOU ARE FACED WITH.
TYPICALLY, THIS IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD ACTION, BUT I RECOGNIZE
IT RELATES TO THE RAYS.
ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIRE TO VALIDATE THE $80 MILLION
OBLIGATION, WE ARE SEEKING TO VALIDATE ANY DEBT THAT MAY BE
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 80 MILLION.
YOU MAY RECALL WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DEAL, THE CFO
DISCUSSED IT MAY BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THAT FOUR PAYMENTS,
REMEMBER, IT'S 20 MILLION, TOTAL OF 80 MILLION, THAT IT MAY
BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO TAKE OUT SOME DEBT.
THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT OBLIGATE YOU TO ISSUE DEBT.
IT SIMPLY ASKS THE COURT THAT IF THE CITY ISSUES DEBT
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT 80 MILLION, THAT IT'S WARRANTED AND
AUTHORIZED.
SO FROM MY STANDPOINT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, I'M LOOKING AT
THIS AS OUR OBLIGATION OF 80 MILLION.
SEPARATE APART WHAT IT'S RELATED TO.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO GO TO
COURT TO VALIDATE THE $80 MILLION.
NOW, SOME PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO SAY THIS
PUBLICLY, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO CREATES A FORUM FOR
PEOPLE -- ACTUALLY, ANYONE IN FLORIDA, TO COME IN AND
CONTEST IT.
IT'S A COURT ACTION, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS SOMEONE TO COME IN
AND SAY, OKAY, I THINK THERE ARE REASONS THE $80 MILLION IS
NOT AUTHORIZED.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HOWEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS
AN APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE TODAY.
1:23:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. STEADY.
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:23:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. STEADY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I DO NOT WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME TODAY IS THIS VOTE DOESN'T
NECESSARILY GO TO THE MERITS OF OUR POSITION ON THE RAYS.
IT'S RATHER A PROCEDURAL PASS-THROUGH THAT IF SOMEBODY
SUPPORTS IT, WOULD NOT GO TO THE MERITS OF THE DEAL THAT WE
VOTED ON A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IS THAT CORRECT?
1:24:12PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
CORRECT.
1:24:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
1:24:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:24:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME SAY THIS, I COINCIDENTALLY SPOKE
TO THE GENTLEMAN, AND I GAVE HIM SOMETHING THIS MORNING TO
READ.
I HAD A FRIEND THAT I ASKED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING.
HERE'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME.
WHEN I STARTED BREAKING DOWN THIS, I QUICKLY REALIZED IT WAS
GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN WHAT WOULD FIT INTO A 99 ITEM AGENDA
REVIEW.
ITEM 90 IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD AND FUNDING THE
RAYS AS THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THE INTENTION TO BORROW
80 MILLION THROUGHOUT -- THROUGHOUT NON-AD VALOREM BONDS.
WHILE THE SIGNED AGREEMENT SAYS THE CITY'S SHARE OF THE
STADIUM DISTRICT PROPERTY TAXES WILL REPAY IT, THE BOND
RESOLUTION SAYS PROPERTY TAXES CANNOT PAY THE BONDS.
DEPENDING ON HOW THE SURROUNDING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, IT
MAY NEVER COVER THE COST.
THAT'S ONE.
TWO, ITEM 90 AUTHORIZES UP TO 80 MILLION IN NON-AD VALOREM
REVENUE BONDS FOR THE CITY STADIUM CONTRIBUTION.
THE SIGNED AGREEMENT SAYS THE CITY'S SHARE OF THE STADIUM
DISTRICT PROPERTY TAXES WILL REPAY IT.
THE BOND RESOLUTION SAYS PROPERTY TAXES CANNOT PAY THE
BONDS.
1:25:28PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
RIGHT.
I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT EARLIER SO I CAN GIVE THE
ANSWER.
OBVIOUSLY A COMPLEX DEAL WITH THE RAYS.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIMARILY TODAY -- WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT IS IN OUR FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE RAYS, AGAIN, AS
YOU KNOW, WE COMMITTED $80 MILLION OVER FOUR YEARS.
THAT BOND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE RESOLUTION, THE
ONLY SOURCE IS NON-AD VALOREM TAXES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS RESOLUTION.
ON THE OTHER HAND, REMEMBER, REGARDING THE HOME RULE TIF AND
I'M WORKING ON THAT IN MY OFFICE LIKE TODAY.
PART OF THE DEAL IS THEY ARE GOING TO CREATE A COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OVER THE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE ALSO
OVER THAT PRIVATE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT A HOME RULE TIF ON THERE, WHICH WE'RE
GOING TO SHARE WITH THE CDD, SOME OF THAT TIF WITH THE
COUNTY AND THE CITY IS GOING TO THE CDD TO PAY FOR
IMPROVEMENTS.
THE OTHER PART IS COMING BACK TO THE CITY.
SO YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE TIF, WHICH IS AD VALOREM, IS COMING BACK TO THE CITY.
BUT THAT'S NOT TO PAY THE BONDS.
THAT IS SIMPLY A MECHANISM TO RECOUP ALL OR SOME OF THE 80
MILLION.
SO I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE TOO MUCH OF IT.
LET ME RESTATE IT.
WHAT THE BONDS THAT WOULD BE VALIDATED HERE TODAY, WHEN WE
GO TO COURT, THAT WOULD BE NON-AD VALOREM, CLEARLY.
CAN'T BE AD VALOREM.
THE TIF MONEY WOULD BE AD VALOREM, BUT IT'S RECOUPING IT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SECURITY FOR THE BONDS.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, COUNCILMAN.
AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS PORTRAYED WHEN YOU APPROVED IT.
IT GETS KIND OF CONFUSING, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY ARE TWO
DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE $80 MILLION CAN BE SECURED WITH DEBT, BUT IT WOULD BE
NON-AD VALOREM OVER HERE AS PART OF THE DEAL, THE TIF THAT'S
GOING TO BE CREATED, AND, BY THE WAY, THAT WAS NEGOTIATED,
PORTION OF IT IS GOING TO GO TO THE PROJECT.
THE OTHER PORTION WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY TO RECOUP BUT
NOT PAY THE DEBT.
I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT THAT'S THE ANSWER.
PLEASE, DENNIS.
1:27:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THANK YOU, SIR, MR. STEADY, FOR THAT.
AGAIN, TO LEVEL-SET AND PROVIDE WHAT I THINK IS COMPLETE
CLARITY, IN GOVERNMENT FINANCE YOU HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE
WHAT IS BEING PLEDGED TO SECURE THE MONEY AND WHAT YOU'RE
PAYING, FOR THE SOURCE THAT YOU'RE PAYING.
WHAT A NON-AD VALOREM ISSUANCE MEANS IS CREDITORS, IF
SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS, CAN'T COMPEL THE MAYOR AND CITY
COUNCIL TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY THE DEBT.
THAT REQUIRES A REFERENDUM, CALLED A GENERAL OBLIGATION
BOND.
THIS PROTECTS THE CITY WHILE STILL PROVIDING A VERY, VERY
STRONG CREDIT.
WE'RE PLEDGING NON-AD VALOREM.
NON-AD VALOREM IS GENERAL FUND.
BUT IT'S SEPARATE AND APART, AS MR. STEADY WAS SAYING,
SEPARATE AND APART FROM PROPERTY TAX AD VALOREM.
SO LEGALLY AND FINANCIALLY, HAVE TO SEPARATE THE TWO.
WHAT ARE WE USING TO SECURE IT?
AND WHAT ARE WE USING TO PAY IT?
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
YOU'LL RECALL WE HAD OUTSTANDING DEBT ON THE CONVENTION
CENTER, AND WE PLEDGED NON-AD VALOREM DEBT BECAUSE OF THE
STRONG CREDIT.
WE DIDN'T PAY FOR IT FROM NON-AD VALOREM.
AGAIN, GENERAL FUND.
WE PAID FOR IT FROM THE CRA AND FROM THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT
TAX.
SO TWO SEPARATE MECHANISMS.
YOU SECURE THE DEBT AND THEN YOU PAY THE DEBT.
I HOPE THAT HELPS.
1:29:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MAYBE THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
TWO DIFFERENT THINGS SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS.
HOWEVER IN MY MIND, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, WHEN IT SAYS THE
DISTRICT PROPERTY TAXES TO REPAY IT, THE BOND RESOLUTION
SHOULD COVER THE TAXES OF THAT AREA.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT PRODUCE THE REVENUE
TO COVER THE COSTS?
AND THAT'S A POSSIBILITY IN ANYTHING.
YOU COULD START BUILDING A HOUSE AND BORROW MONEY AND YOU
FIND OUT THAT YOU ARE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SHORT BECAUSE
YOU EXTENDED THE HOUSE AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT
AND NOW YOU CAN'T PAY IT.
I'M USING MY KNOWLEDGE OF BASIC MATH.
IF I BUY A HOUSE FOR 200,000 AND I BUY A LOT FOR 300,000, I
HAVE HALF A MILLION.
BUT IF THE HOUSE COSTS ME 600,000, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO
PAY IT BACK.
I ONLY HAVE 500,000, NOT 600,000.
THIS COULD HAPPEN HERE.
1:30:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IT COULD, SIR.
IT IS NOT WITHOUT RISK.
BUT, AGAIN, I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
1:30:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE RISK IS ONLY TO THE CITY, NOT TO
THEM.
THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.
WHY DON'T WE SHARE IT?
1:30:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
AGAIN, TO PROVIDE WHAT I HOPE TO BE A FULL
PICTURE --
1:30:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M NOT DEBATING YOU.
I'M SAYING PROTECT THE PUBLIC.
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
SO THEY SAY.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD COSIGN THE NOTE TO MAKE SURE OUR TAXPAYERS
ARE COVERED.
THAT'S ALL I WANT.
1:30:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
REITERATE FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC,
THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS NOT THE WHOLE OF OUR GENERAL
FUND REVENUE, AS COUNCIL KNOWS.
IT'S ABOUT HALF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE.
IF THERE ARE AMPLE OTHER GENERAL FUND NON-AD VALOREM
SOURCES, STATE SHARED REVENUE, HALF-CENT SALES TAX, CHARGES
FOR SERVICES, ET CETERA.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT COUNCIL NOR THE PUBLIC TO CONFUSE
PROPERTY TAX WITH GENERAL FUND COMPLETELY.
1:31:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IN REGARDS TO THE $80 MILLION, WHICH WE
TALKED ABOUT, IT'S OVER FOUR YEARS, DOES THIS HAVE THE TERMS
LAID OUT WHERE -- AND I MENTIONED THIS THE LAST TIME THIS
CAME UP -- REGARDING WHO PAYS THE INTEREST?
IS THIS INCLUDED IN THAT?
BECAUSE IF I RECALL, IT WAS FOUR PAYMENTS OF $20 MILLION AND
WE PAY THE INTEREST.
BASICALLY, WE'RE GIVING ZERO PERCENT, OFFERING ZERO PERCENT
FINANCING.
1:31:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THAT REMAINS CORRECT.
IT IS THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO PAY INTEREST.
AGAIN THIS SIMPLY VALIDATES THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTRIBUTION
AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO ISSUE DEBT, THE USE OF THE DEBT.
1:31:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WE DON'T HAVE A
FULL COUNCIL TODAY AND KNOWING HOW THIS IS A BIG ISSUE
REGARDLESS IF THIS IS JUST A PASS-THROUGH, FORMALITY OR
WHATEVER, WHAT IF THERE IS A TIE VOTE?
WHAT HAPPENS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, AS WE KNOW, IS LEAVING.
WHAT HAPPENS?
BECAUSE NOVEMBER 5 IS THE NEXT REGULAR VOTE OR REGULAR
MEETING.
THE SEAT IS VACANT AND THEN IT BECOMES SIX COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IS THERE A SPECIAL CALL?
IT GOES TO THE NIGHT MEETING NEXT THURSDAY?
WHAT HAPPENS?
CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
1:32:26PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
THAT'S A REALITY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
INTERNALLY.
THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION, COUNCILMAN.
1:32:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHERE WOULD IT CONTINUE TO IF THERE IS A
TIE VOTE?
POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE.
WOULD IT GO TO NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT.
1:32:38PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I'LL DEFER TO MARTY TO TELL ME THAT.
1:32:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT YOUR RULES STATE I BELIEVE IS THE NEXT
REGULAR MEETING.
IN THE EVENT OF A TIE VOTE -- WELL, IN THE EVENT OF A TIE
VOTE ON A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IT DIES.
1:32:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GOES TO THE NEXT MEETING.
1:32:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NOT IF -- IF IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL, THAT
MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE.
1:33:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
SO I HAVE A FEW THINGS ABOUT IT.
THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THE RESOLUTION SAYS
WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THIS BOND.
IT DOES NOT SAY WE'RE SENDING IT TO A COURT.
IT SAYS WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE.
1:33:22PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
IT WOULD ASK THE COURT TO AUTHORIZE IF WE
COULD ISSUE THE BONDS.
1:33:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS RESOLUTION SAYS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TITLE SAYS.
THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT A COURT IN THIS TITLE.
THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT QUESTIONS.
IT JUST SIMPLY SAYS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF REVENUE
BONDS.
THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN IS THAT NOWHERE IN THIS TITLE OF
THIS RESOLUTION DOES IT SAY WE'RE SENDING IT TO A COURT.
1:33:52PM >> THIS IS STEVE MILLER.
SCOTT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
1:33:56PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
STEVE MILLER IS OUR BOND COUNSEL WITH THE
CITY.
GO AHEAD, STEVE.
1:34:00PM >> I APOLOGIZE.
I'VE BEEN WITH YOU ALL BEFORE.
I HAVE A CONFLICT TODAY AND COULD NOT BE AT THE MEETING.
JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THIS RESOLUTION AGAIN, AS SCOTT HAS
INDICATED, DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE CITY TO ISSUE ANY DEBT AT
ALL.
IT SIMPLY GIVES THE CITY THE OPTION IN THE FUTURE, YOU ARE
ALREADY OBLIGATED PER THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS
EXECUTED TO PAY THE 20 MILLION A YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS.
AND ALL THIS RESOLUTION DOES IS ALLOW THE CITY TO GO TO
COURT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A LAWFUL AUTHORIZATION, TO
NOT ONLY DO THE 20 MILLION PER YEAR PER THE CONTRACT, BUT IF
YOU SO DECIDE IN THE FUTURE TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY ANY OR
ALL OF ONE OF THE ANNUAL PAYMENTS, WE WANT TO VALIDATE TO
PROTECT THE CITY THAT IT IS A LAWFUL USE OF DEBT PROCEEDS.
IN SECTION 703, THERE IS THE PROVISION ABOUT VALIDATION
AUTHORIZED.
AND IT DOES GIVE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND BOND COUNSEL THE
AUTHORITY TO INSTITUTE APPROPRIATE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE
VALIDATION OF THESE BONDS.
SO ADOPTING THIS RESOLUTION IS A REQUIREMENT TO ALLOW THE
CITY TO GO AND SEEK PROTECTION FOR THE CITY IN THE EVENT IN
THE FUTURE IT ISSUES DEBT.
THIS DOES NOT OBLIGATE YOU TO ISSUE DEBT.
CLEARLY IN SECTION 201 OF THE RESOLUTION, IT INDICATES THAT
ALL OF THE OTHER TERMS FOR ANY DEBT THAT GOES FORWARD HAS TO
BE APPROVED BY SUPPLEMENTAL RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL, THAT
THERE CANNOT BE BONDS ISSUED JUST BY ADOPTION OF THIS
RESOLUTION.
THIS IS SOLELY BEING DONE.
YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PAY 80 MILLION OVER FOUR YEARS,
AND THIS IS SIMPLY GIVING YOU A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO ISSUE
DEBT FOR ANY OF THOSE PAYMENTS IF YOU SO DECIDE LATER, IF
THE COUNCIL DECIDES.
IT DOES NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.
IT'S TRYING TO GIVE YOU ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY.
1:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY THESE BONDS?
WHICH SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC TODAY SAID AND PROBABLY RIGHT.
IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE ABOUT 140 MILLION BY THE TIME
INTEREST IS INVOLVED.
HOW ARE WE PAYING THAT BEFORE THE TIF KICKS IN?
SAY THEY ACTUALLY DO THE DEVELOPMENT, HOW ARE WE PAYING FOR
OUR DEBT BEFORE THEN?
1:36:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
YES, IT'S VERY LIKELY TO BE 140.
IT COULD BE HIGHER.
YOU MAY ENTER A SCENARIO WHERE THE INTEREST IS JUST AS MUCH
AS THE PRINCIPAL.
BUT IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW CITY
COUNCIL CHOOSES TO FINANCE THIS.
IF WE CHOOSE TO ISSUE DEBT, AGAIN, FROM A PRO FORMA
PERSPECTIVE, 30 YEARS, DOUBLE IT, 150, 160 MILLION, ABOUT
FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF ANNUAL DEBT
SERVICE.
IF CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES NOT TO ISSUE DEBT, WE PAY IT FROM
CASH, FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR PROVIDE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
I GUESS THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING IT WILL ALL DEPEND ON
CITY COUNCIL CHOOSES TO PAY THIS 80 MILLION OVER THE FOUR
YEARS.
AND YOU HAVE OPTIONS.
ONE OF WHICH IS THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
ATTEMPTING TO HAVE IT VALIDATED.
1:37:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE AVERAGE COST
PER YEAR.
YOU SAID ABOUT $5.5 MILLION.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU.
1:37:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, MA'AM.
1:37:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, WE HAVE ALREADY SIGNED AN
OBLIGATION.
SO THE $80 MILLION IS ALREADY SOMETHING WE'VE SIGNED AS AN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE ALREADY -- YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU LIKE, WE HAVE
A LEGAL OBLIGATION.
WE'LL PAY THIS OBLIGATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT GIVES US A TOOL, AGAIN, I THINK
AS OUR BOND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT SAID, A TOOL IN OUR TOOL
CHEST TO BE ABLE TO FUND -- FUND OUR OBLIGATION.
IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, WE WOULD END UP HAVING TO -- WE WOULD
END UP HAVING TO EITHER PAY IT THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS OR CIT
OR SOME OTHER FORUM.
THIS GIVES US ANOTHER OPTION AND BEGINS THE PROCESS.
I BELIEVE SCOTT STEADY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING.
1:38:17PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, I APPRECIATE THE BOND,
WHAT THIS DOES, IT GOES TO VALIDATE THE $80 MILLION THAT
WE'RE OBLIGATED TO.
IF WE DON'T DO IT, WE'RE STILL OBLIGATED.
1:38:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, STILL OBLIGATED.
1:38:32PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I UNDERSTAND THE FOCUS ON THE DEBT.
MAKE IT CLEAR, THE DEBT IS CONTINGENT ON YOUR APPROVAL, BUT
THIS IS WHERE -- I'M GOING TO SAY IT, WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR
AGAINST THE RAYS, WE'RE IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW FROM THE
CITY ATTORNEY'S STANDPOINT AND THE CITY, THAT WE'RE
OBLIGATED FOR THE $80 MILLION.
IT IS PRUDENT TO VALIDATE THAT 80 MILLION AND TEST AND BE
SUBJECT TO SOMEONE CHALLENGING THAT, FRANKLY, IF YOU WANT TO
HAVE SOMEBODY CHALLENGE IT, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT
THE VALIDATION HEARING.
THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THIS IS TO VALIDATE THE OBLIGATION THAT
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY.
AGAIN, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT YOU
APPROVE THIS, WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST THE RAYS.
I THINK THAT SHIP HAS SAILED AT LEAST AS TO THE 80 MILLION.
I EMPHASIZE AGAIN, IT WILL EXPOSE THE 80 MILLION TO SOMEONE
TO CHALLENGE IT.
THEY CAN COME IN AND SAY, CHALLENGE THAT 80 MILLION.
AGAIN, REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE
PERSPECTIVE.
1:39:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT IS OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, WHETHER YOU LIKE
OR DISLIKE OR AGREED OR DISAGREED WITH THE PREVIOUS VOTE,
THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO DO THIS.
AS A CORRECTION, FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAD EXPRESSED
CONCERN ABOUT THE RAYS OWNERSHIP GROUP AND THEIR
OBLIGATIONS.
REMEMBER, THEY ARE PAYING 63% OF THE COST OF THE STADIUM.
63% AND 1.37 BILLION.
LAST FIGURES I HAVE.
YOU HAD SAID THAT DURING YOUR TESTIMONY, OR DURING YOUR
SPEECH, FIGURES THAT I HAVE, THAT WAS THE LAST FIGURES THAT
I HAD.
AGAIN, THIS CITY, WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT, LEGALLY BINDING
AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED FOR 80 BILLION -- 80
MILLION, EXCUSE ME.
THAT BEING SAID, IF WE FAIL TO FINANCE THIS, WHAT YOU WOULD
BE DOING IS TAKING MONEY FROM OTHER PROJECTS INCLUDING
FLOODING PROJECTS AND STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND OTHER
PROJECTS TO PAY FOR THIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:40:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
MR. STEADY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON SOMETHING.
MR. STEADY, IF I MAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON SOMETHING
BECAUSE -- AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
I'LL EXPLAIN WHY I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION.
IS IT YOUR LEGAL ADVICE AS CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE PASS THIS
TODAY?
1:41:12PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
YES, SIR.
1:41:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I SAY THIS, COUNCIL, FOR A REASON.
MR. STEADY IS THE CITY ATTORNEY.
HE IS NOT A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO SAY YOU SHOULD DO THIS BECAUSE I WANT
THE RAYS OR YOU SHOULD DO THIS BECAUSE I HATE THE RAYS OR
LOWER TAXES HIGHER TAXES, MEDICARE FOR ALL OR GET RID OF
MEDICARE, WHATEVER, IT IS BASED UPON LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.
THAT YOU HAVE ROLE AS A MEMBER OF FLORIDA BAR, AS COUNCIL
FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SO FORTH.
THEREFORE I CITE THAT BECAUSE WHAT IS BEFORE US IS NOT
SOMETHING ON THE MERITS OF THE BALLPARK THAT IS RATHER A
PASS-THROUGH THAT IS BASED UPON THE ADVICE OF COUNCIL.
I WANTED TO CITE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR
US TO CONSIDER ON THIS.
THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU.
1:41:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
1:41:56PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.
THIS DOESN'T OBLIGATE THE CITY TO ISSUE A BOND.
IT ALLOWS FOR CITY OF TAMPA TO GO TO COURT, I.E., THE
VALIDATION HEARING, AND SAY THAT THIS IS A LAWFUL
AUTHORIZATION, CORRECT?
1:42:11PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
YES, MA'AM.
1:42:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
COULD YOU EXPLAIN JUST BRIEFLY WHAT THAT
PROCESS IS LIKE SO WE GO AND SAY, OKAY, TO MAKE THIS
PAYMENT, THIS IS -- HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK?
1:42:25PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
THE COURT PROCESS, BASICALLY YOU FILE A
COMPLAINT.
WE FILE A COMPLAINT, AND THE COMPLAINT ACTUALLY IS AGAINST
-- I THINK IT IS THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
AND THERE ARE CERTAIN NOTICES THAT GO OUT TO TELL PEOPLE
THAT THIS ACTION IS IN EFFECT AND THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF TIME FOR THEM TO FILE.
I'M NOT A VALIDATION LAWYER, BUT I'VE BEEN THROUGH ONE
BEFORE.
BUT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS OR A GROUP TO
CONTEST.
AGAIN, IT'S BASICALLY A PUBLIC FORUM WITHIN THE COURT SYSTEM
TO CONSIDER ULTIMATELY THE JUDGE CONSIDERS WHETHER AFTER
TAKING FACTS AND ANYONE INTERVENES TO DETERMINE THAT IT'S
AUTHORIZED AND LEGAL.
IT'S DESIGNED TO ADDRESS EARLY ON WHETHER SOMETHING IS
AUTHORIZED AND LEGAL SO THAT WE DON'T GO SIX MONTHS OR NINE
MONTHS OR A YEAR FORWARD AND THEN SOMEONE CHALLENGES IT OR
WE FIND OUT THAT WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING.
IT'S A PROCESS TO ALLOW THE CITY EARLY ON TO DETERMINE THAT
IT'S LEGAL AND AUTHORIZED.
BASICALLY, AGAIN, SUBJECTS THAT ARE THE CITY COUNCIL'S
APPROVAL TO SOMEONE CHALLENGING IT.
IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO CHALLENGE IT.
THAT'S THE INTENT.
1:43:49PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO YOU GO ONE TIME OR EACH TIME --
1:43:53PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
IT'S ONE ACTION.
FILE ONE ACTION TO VALIDATE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
VALIDATE THE $80 MILLION AS IN ASKING THE COURT TO ISSUE AN
ORDER SAYING THE $80 MILLION OBLIGATION IS LEGAL AND
AUTHORIZED, ISSUE AN ORDER TO SAY DEBT THAT WOULD BE ISSUED,
IF ISSUED FOR THE 80 MILLION IS ALSO AUTHORIZED.
IT'S ONE TIME, ONE CASE, ONE ORDER.
1:44:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
GOT IT.
THANK YOU.
1:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:44:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IN FACT, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, IF I REMEMBER THE WHOLE THING,
CDD OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT, THAT MEANS WE WERE
GOING TO COLLECT THE INTEREST FROM -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
THE STADIUM.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEX THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
BUILD.
1:44:37PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
RIGHT, RIGHT.
1:44:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ABOUT THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF MIDTOWN OR
TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE SIZE.
PAYS 8 MILLION TO THE CITY.
LET'S SAY 20.
PAY US BACK WITH OWN MONEY, HALF THE INTEREST STAY WITH
THEM, SUPPOSED TO STAY IN THE DISTRICT.
THEY PAY THE TAXES WITH THE MONEY THEY COLLECT.
IN ESSENCE, THEY ARE NOT PAYING THE FULL TAX.
THEY'LL PAY HALF OF WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY BECAUSE
WE'RE GOING TO USE THE OTHER PAY TO PAY OURSELVES BACK ON
THE 80 MILLION.
YOU GOT TO BE A DEAD RACCOON TO GO FOR THAT.
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, WE DON'T HAVE A STARTING DATE FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT AREA.
STARTING DATE FOR THE STADIUM.
NEVER HEARD THEM SAY WHEN THEY START THE OTHER PROCESS,
BUILD THAT FANTASTIC PLACE.
I HOPE IT GOES WELL FOR THEM.
NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WHEN IS IT GOING TO START?
WHEN WILL IT FINISH?
WHEN START COLLECTING THE TAX?
PAY INTEREST ON $80 MILLION AND BE GETTING NOTHING BACK FOR
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS.
DON'T BUILD IT, DON'T GET ANYTHING.
STILL HAVE TO GET MONEY TO PAY THE TAX.
AM I RIGHT OR NOT?
1:45:47PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
YOU SAID A LOT. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
THE BOTTOM LINE, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA YOU ARE
CRITICIZING THE DEAL.
1:45:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, CRITICIZING THE FACTS, NOT THE DEAL.
1:46:02PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
THE DEAL -- WE AGREED TO THE DEAL, WHETHER
YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WE AGREED TO THE DEAL.
WHAT I'M DEALING WITH, I'LL SAY ON THIS SIDE THE $80 MILLION
OBLIGATION, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH
IS RELATED, BUT IS NOT INTEGRAL TO THE 80 MILLION.
THAT RELATED ISSUE WAS CREATING THE TIF, SPLITTING THE TIF.
YOU'VE CHARACTERIZED IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT YOU
CHARACTERIZED THE WAY YOU WANT IT, WHICH IS NOT INACCURATE.
HALF OF THE MONEY, THEY ARE GOING TO STAY, KEEP WITH THEM,
HALF THE AD VALOREM THAT OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE COME TO THE
CITY AND COUNTY, STAY WITH THEM, AND THE OTHER HALF WE GET
THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN ANYWAY.
THAT IS ALL CONTINGENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRIVATE
DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE IS, AND THAT PART OF THAT DEAL,
WHICH YOU DIDN'T LIKE, THAT'S THERE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M DEALING WITH THE $80 MILLION OBLIGATION
THAT WE NEED TO VALUE.
IN MY OPINION.
1:47:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE A LEGAL POINT?
1:47:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO CLARIFY COUNCIL'S RULES WITH
REGARD TO A 3-3 TIE --
1:47:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE DON'T HAVE A 3-3 TIE YET.
1:47:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
WHAT I SPOKE TO IS WHETHER IT DIES.
THE QUESTION IS, IF IT IS A MOTION OF COUNCIL THAT A COUNCIL
MEMBER MAKES, IF IT IS A 3-3 TIE, IT DIES.
IF IT IS AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION, YOUR RULE STATES THE
FOLLOWING, IF A MOTION TO APPROVE, DENY OR CONTINUE AN
ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION OF A LEGISLATIVE MATTER FAILS TO
RECEIVE AT LEAST 4 VOTES EITHER IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, IT
SHALL AUTOMATICALLY BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL AT
THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
1:47:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHICH WOULD BE TWO WEEKS.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN, I THINK SCOTT, OUR CITY ATTORNEY
SCOTT STEADY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF STATING THIS.
THIS IS AN OBLIGATION.
THE DEAL IS DONE.
IT'S ALREADY SIGNED.
THIS IS JUST ABOUT HOW WE ACCOMMODATE THE OBLIGATION.
WE HAVE AN $80 MILLION OBLIGATION.
THIS IS GIVING US A TOOL IN THE TOOL CHEST TO DO IT.
IF WE TAKE THIS TOOL OUT OF THE TOOL CHEST, YOU'RE GOING TO
PAY FOR IT WITH CIT, PAY FOR IT WITH GENERAL FUNDS, PAY FOR
IT SOME OTHER WAY.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE STILL CAN'T DO THAT, BUT IF WE TAKE THAT
TOOL OUT OF THE TOOL VEST, IT WILL RESTRICT US FROM USING
THE OPTION OF BONDING IT IF WE NEEDED TO.
THIS IS JUST PUTTING A TOOL INTO THE TOOLBOX.
I THINK A FIDUCIARY STEWARDS OF THIS CITY, I THINK IT WOULD
BE -- ALMOST A DERELICT OF DUTY NOT TO PUT THAT TOOL IN THE
TOOLBOX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.
SOMEBODY MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCILMAN
VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:49:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO QUOTE THIS IS STILL ONE OF THOSE THINGS
THAT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO, I'M SO SORRY THAT YOU
ALL VOTED FOR IT AND YOU'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY
FOR IT.
NO, NOT MY PROBLEM.
SO I'M VOTING NO.
1:49:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
1:49:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
1:49:27PM >> CARLSON IS ABSENT.
MIRANDA?
1:49:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ABSOLUTELY NO.
1:49:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
1:49:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
1:49:38PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION FAILED DUE TO A TIE VOTE.
1:49:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS THEN WOULD GO TO THE NEXT REGULARLY
SCHEDULED MEETING WHICH IS AFTER NOVEMBER 2 WHEN I TURN INTO
A PUMPKIN, LIKE I RESIGN.
OKAY.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, COUNCIL, BY THE WAY, TO THE THREE THAT
VOTED, I RESPECT YOUR POSITIONS 110%.
WE HAVE RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENTS.
GOD BLESS YOU.
YOU ARE MY FRIENDS AND I LOVE YOU TO DEATH.
I SUGGEST WE MOVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE BEFORE I LEAVE.
1:50:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING ON THE LAST
THURSDAY OF THIS MONTH.
THE LAST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH THERE'S NO MEETING.
ARE THE CHAMBERS OPEN?
1:50:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE IT'S A BREAK FOR US.
SO, NO.
I'M NOT AVAILABLE ANYTIME THAT WEEK.
1:50:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM AVAILABLE THAT DAY.
1:50:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M AVAILABLE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO ADD A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON OCTOBER 29.
1:50:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK ALL OF US SHOULD BE HERE FOR THAT.
1:50:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AS A COURTESY, ARE YOU
AVAILABLE ANYTIME THAT WEEK, MA'AM?
1:50:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I'M OUT OF TOWN.
I'M GOING TO SEE MY MOTHER WHO WAS JUST IN A CAR ACCIDENT.
1:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER 2?
I RESIGN AT MIDNIGHT ON NOVEMBER 2.
1:50:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I NEED TO GET MY PHONE.
MS. SCHARF, IF YOU CAN BRING ME MY PHONE FOR TIMEWISE.
1:51:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T BE AVAILABLE DURING THE DAY.
COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR NIGHTTIME.
1:51:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T BE AVAILABLE FOR NIGHTTIME.
1:51:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS VERY SICK.
WE GET WITH SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY CALL HIM OR HIS AIDE, GET HIS
CALENDAR AND TAKE IT UP AT MOTION TIME OR WHENEVER WE'RE
READY.
1:51:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET'S BE PREPARED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION
LATER ON IN THE MEETING.
1:51:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS A PHONE SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE THAT
KEEPS RINGING.
1:51:35PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:51:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S OUT.
1:51:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE HAVE HART THAT MORNING BUT CAN DO IT
AFTER --
1:51:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
1:51:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS IMPORTANT, MAY I?
SEBASTIAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND DOUBLE CHECKING THAT MY RESIGN
TO RUN LETTER IS NOVEMBER 2 AT MIDNIGHT.
1:52:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
11:59.
1:52:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET'S DOUBLE CHECK IT.
1:52:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THE 29th.
I UNDERSTAND, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, BUT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST
THE 29th.
1:52:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SECOND THE 29th.
1:52:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN'T DO IT THE 2nd EITHER.
SOMEBODY IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
1:52:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S GENERALLY COUNTED AS A BREAK WEEK.
1:52:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I UNDERSTAND.
BUT WE'RE CALLING FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
1:52:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE'S NO SENSE OF URGENCY HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER BY THE 17th.
1:52:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU HAVE THAT TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION
ONCE WE DO THIS, ONCE WE GET A MOTION AND SECOND, WE'LL HAVE
A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
MR. SHELBY.
1:52:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR RULES, MR. CHAIRMAN, PROCESS, RULE 4-C
STATES THAT IT SHALL AUTOMATICALLY BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE
COUNCIL AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
YOU CAN WAIVE THE RULES.
YOUR AMENDMENT STATES ANY OF THE FOREGOING RULES MAY BE
TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED FOR THE MEETING THEN IN SESSION BY A
SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF FIVE OR MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS UNLESS
SUCH WAIVER IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE CITY CHARTER OR STATE OR
LOCAL LAW.
1:53:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN THE CITY PUT THIS BACK ON OUR AGENDA
ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING?
JUST HAVE IT AS A NEW ITEM AGAIN.
1:53:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPECIAL CALL MEETING?
THE QUESTION IS, AS IT STANDS NOW, THE RULE STATES THAT PER
THE CLERK AS A MATTER OF YOUR RULES, IT IS ON THE AGENDA OR
SHALL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 5th AS YOU SPEAK NOW.
1:53:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU TELLING US BY
VIRTUE OF THE FACT IT WAS A TIE THAT IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES
TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AND WE CAN'T DO A
SPECIAL CALL FOR IT?
1:53:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
UNLESS YOU DO IT BY A VOTE OF FIVE.
PART OF YOUR MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR THE
SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR THAT PURPOSE WITH A VOTE OF FIVE.
1:54:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT IS BY VIRTUE OF IT BEING A TIE, CORRECT?
IF IT FAILED -- STRIKE THAT.
IF IT'S A TIE THAT TRIGGERS IT GOING TO THE NEXT REGULARLY
SCHEDULED MEETING.
WHAT IF IT FAILED BY SOMEBODY VOTED AGAINST IT, WOULD THAT
THEN TRIGGER THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING BEING ON
THE CALENDAR OR CAN WE DO A SPECIAL CALL MEETING?
1:54:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT WOULD FAIL.
1:54:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M ASKING THIS FOR A REASON.
IF IT FAILED, LET'S SAY ONE OF US FLIPPED AND SAID, NO, WE
DON'T WANT THIS AND FAILED.
FAILS 4-2.
TWO FOR IT, FOUR AGAINST.
COULD WE HAVE IT ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING IF IT FAILED?
1:54:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SPECIAL CALL MEETING CAN BE CALLED BY
COUNCIL AND REQUIRES A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE.
1:54:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
PURSUANT TO THAT, MR. SHELBY, SOMETHING IN
COUNCIL, WALK WITH ME HERE, WHERE WE DO A RECONSIDERATION OF
THAT.
ONE OF US FLIPS, VOTE AGAINST IT AND THEN DO A SPECIAL CALL
MEETING BEFORE I LEAVE.
SIMPLE MAJORITY IF IT FAILS.
I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT AND I APOLOGIZE.
1:55:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
KEEPS IT EXCITING.
IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR A MOTION TO RECONSIDER,
UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, IN ORDER TO BE A MOTION TO
RECONSIDER, IT HAS TO BE A VOTE, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION HAS
TO BE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NOT A
PREVAILING SIDE.
YOU CAN IF SOMEBODY AGREES TO DO IT BY A VOTE OF FIVE.
1:55:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
QUESTION FOR YOU, IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL
CALL MEETING OCTOBER 29 -- STOP.
I'M TALKING.
IF WE HAD A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON OCTOBER 29 AND THE CITY
BROUGHT A NEW AGENDA ITEM, THEY POSTED A NEW AGENDA ITEM,
COULD WE CONSIDER THE NEW AGENDA ITEM?
1:56:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CAN'T SEE WHY NOT.
1:56:16PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AS AN OUTSIDE OBSERVER, I WOULD SUGGEST,
THERE'S NOTHING WORSE THAN LAWYERING ON THE FLY.
NOTHING THAT'S ANYBODY HERE.
PERHAPS YOU GUYS MAYBE GO OUTSIDE FOR FIVE MINUTES TO MAKE
SURE WE'RE ALL ON SOLID GROUND.
1:56:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
1:56:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS AVAILABLE OCTOBER
29, BY THE WAY.
1:56:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT IS A
COUNCIL DAY IS THAT CORRECT?
1:56:45PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:56:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD OBSERVE THAT IF WE CAN CONVINCE
ONE PERSON THAT VOTED AGAINST THIS TO VOTE IN FAVOR, WE
WOULD AVOID THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[FIVE-MINUTE RECESS]
SORRY, MR. TINKLER.
2:07:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL BACK TO ORDER.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
2:07:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
2:07:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
2:07:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
2:07:43PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
HERE.
2:07:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
2:07:44PM >> CARLSON?
2:07:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
2:07:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU DO NOT LOOK GOOD.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS LOGGED ON TO JOIN US ON THIS TAMPA
CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
ANY OBJECTION TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY?
2:08:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT THEN?
2:08:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL OF SEVEN NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, DID YOU WANT TO DEFER TO MR.
STEADY?
2:08:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
POINT OF ORDER, DON'T WE HAVE THE VOTES WITH
BILL HERE?
2:08:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS THE CREDIBILITY
STANDING IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I SAY THESE THINGS.
MR. STEADY AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONFER ON THIS
ISSUE.
DURING THAT TIME WE LEARNED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WAS
ABLE AND WILLING AND WAS GOING TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN
THIS.
NOW THAT HE IS HERE, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A LONG-STANDING
CUSTOM THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A 3-3 VOTE OR A TIE VOTE AND IT
CAN BE ADDRESSED WHEN ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER DOES
PARTICIPATE, YOU'VE HELD ITEMS AND REHELD VOTES.
AND THAT BEING THE CASE, IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION NOW THAT YOU
HAVE A FULL COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE NOW FOR YOU TO
HAVE A MOTION AND VOTE AGAIN ON THE SUBJECT WITH A FULL
COUNCIL.
2:09:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVE, IF I MAY.
2:09:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 90.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
2:09:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
2:09:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS ADVISED THAT THE STADIUM DEAL WAS
DONE.
EVERYTHING WAS SIGNED AND SO FORTH.
DO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT DEAL DONE?
DO WE HAVE THE STADIUM LEASE DEAL DONE?
2:09:38PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY --
2:09:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE DON'T HAVE A DEAL THEN.
THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE DEAL, WASN'T IT?
2:09:44PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
WE APPROVED THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS THOSE
THINGS COMING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
2:09:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL ON THEIR SIDE.
WE CAN ONLY WIGGLE AND SAY WE WANT TO BE A WORM BUT WE CAN'T
FLY.
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IS NOT DONE AND THE
DEAL FOR THE STADIUM IS STILL NOT DONE.
2:10:05PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
THE USE AGREEMENT IS NOT DONE.
THE DEAL IS DONE.
THE --
2:10:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT THE FACTS ARE.
2:10:11PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I'M AGREEING WITH YOU.
THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT IS NOT DONE.
THE USE AGREEMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING NEGOTIATED IS NOT
DONE.
THE CDD CREATION IS NOT DONE.
THE TIF AGREEMENT IS NOT DONE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.
2:10:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT THIS VOTE IS ABOUT IS REALLY THE
FINANCING OF THE 80 MILLION SO THAT'S NOT DONE EITHER UNTIL
WE VOTE.
2:10:33PM >>SCOTT STEADY:
I'M GOING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
I DON'T SEE THIS AS A RAYS ISSUE.
I SEE WE HAVE AN $80 MILLION OBLIGATION AND WE NEED TO GO
AND VALIDATE THIS OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE CITY.
THAT'S MY --
2:10:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.
I'M NOT A LAWYER AND YOU ARE.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THE DEAL IS DONE, GO BACK
TO MY MIND, SINGLE BRAIN AND TELL MYSELF, IS IT REALLY DONE?
HOW ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THIS?
NOTHING IS SIGNED.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL PAY US BACK -- WE DON'T HAVE A
CONTRACT SAYING WHEN THEY WILL START THE BUILDING, LIKE
MIDTOWN TWO OR THREE TIMES LARGER AND THAT'S NOT DONE
EITHER.
BUILT THE STADIUM, DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE REST.
THAT'S MY OPINION.
I'M NOT A JUDGE.
2:11:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE.
I PICKED UP SOME STOMACH BUG LAST NIGHT AND YOU WOULDN'T
WANT ME IN THE ROOM.
I HAPPENED TO TURN THIS ON AND SAW THIS WAS HAPPENING.
I FIGURED I WOULD CALL IN.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAILS UNLESS YOU WANT TO, THERE
IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION FLYING OUT THERE WHAT THE MONEY
IS, THIS AND THAT.
EVEN A BLOG THAT FAILED TO MENTION THIS WAS JUST TO GET THE
JUDGE'S APPROVAL RATHER THAN AN APPROVAL.
WE'RE NOT VOTING AS THE LAWYER SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT
VOTING ON WHAT MECHANISM TO USE.
WE'RE JUST VOTING TO ASK A JUDGE WHETHER WE CAN USE THIS AS
A SOURCE.
I THINK WE SHOULD STOP THE HYSTERIA AND THE MISINFORMATION
OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY AROUND HILLSBOROUGH COLLEGE BUT ALSO
AROUND THE NUMBERS.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PROVE A POINT IN THE NUMBERS DO IT IN A
DEBATE OR DO IT IN A COMMUNITY MEETING.
DON'T DO IT HERE WHERE WE ARE MISLEADING THE PUBLIC.
2:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
2:12:25PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
2:12:28PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:12:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
2:12:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO, BECAUSE THERE'S NO DEAL DONE.
2:12:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
2:12:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
2:12:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:12:38PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, MANISCALCO,
AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
2:12:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
SINCE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY --
2:12:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
I'VE BEEN IN COURT MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN YOU, SIR.
2:12:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS PORTION OF THE DEAL IS DONE.
2:12:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
THE FIRST PORTION, PUTTING IT BACK IN OUR FACE, HAVE TO HAVE
IT -- I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE WHO VOTED
FOR IT.
2:13:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
NOW, THE STAR OF THE SHOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, KEN
TINKLER.
2:13:16PM >>KEN TINKLER:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
GLAD SCOTT COULD GET EVERYTHING WARMED UP IN HERE.
2:13:23PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MAY I SAY ONE THING?
2:13:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:13:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL GO BACK TO BED.
IF YOU GUYS NEED ME, CALL ME.
IT WILL TAKE THREE OR FOUR MINUTES TO GET BACK IN.
IF YOU COULD SIT QUIETLY.
WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE DO.
2:13:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
2:13:51PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF OUR DISCUSSION FROM
TWO WEEKS AGO.
FOR THE RECORD, KEN TINKLER, CARLSON FIELDS.
I'M HERE IN THE ROLE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL ADVISING YOU ON
CHARTER REVIEW ONLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH SOME REVISED -- THE REVISED
LANGUAGE YOU ASKED ME TO BRING BACK ALONG WITH A FEW CHANGES
THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE MEMORANDUM WENT OUT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I
THINK REFINED THINGS IN A GOOD WAY.
AFTER THAT, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CURRENT DRAFTS OF THE
BALLOT QUESTIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE WRITTEN
REFLECTS YOUR INTENT BECAUSE YOUR NEXT STEP WITH THIS IS
BRINGING IT TO A PUBLIC HEARING AS INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCES.
IF THE TV FOLKS CAN BRING UP MY PowerPoint FROM EARLIER
TODAY, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
2:14:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS THE REVISED ONE YOU SENT THIS
MORNING?
2:14:50PM >>KEN TINKLER:
YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
2:14:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE THAT ONE?
UH-OH.
2:15:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SENT TO CTTV THIS MORNING.
2:15:06PM >>KEN TINKLER:
PERFECT.
THANK YOU.
MAKE IT EASIER TO TRACK THE LANGUAGE.
EVERYONE LIKES TO READ THE MINUTIA OF ORDINANCES.
2:15:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MARTY, CAN YOU COPY CTTV SO THEY HAVE IT
AT THE TOP OF THEIR BOX TOO?
2:16:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS THIS THE LAST ITEM OF THE DAY?
2:16:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO, WE HAVE THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:16:17PM >> AND NEW BUSINESS.
2:16:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE E-MAILS.
I JUST SENT IT AT CTTV.
2:17:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. TINKLER, ARE YOU FROM HERE
ORIGINALLY?
BORN AND RAISED?
2:17:19PM >>KEN TINKLER:
NO, I MOVED HERE AFTER LAW SCHOOL.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST 30 YEARS.
BORN IN THE BRONX AND GREW UP THERE IN CONNECTICUT.
TOO MUCH SNOW.
AND FLORIDA FOR LAW SCHOOL.
2:17:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I LOVE SNOW.
I ONLY SEE IT IF I TRAVEL SOMEWHERE.
MY WIFE IS FROM WEST VIRGINIA, HAVE YOU DRIVEN NO SNOW,
SHOVELED SNOW?
SEE HOW MUCH YOU LOVE IT.
2:17:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SCRAPING YOUR WINDSHIELD.
2:17:48PM >>KEN TINKLER:
UNDERGRAD WAS IN BOSTON AND TOO MUCH OF THAT
WINTER, THAT'S FOR SURE.
2:17:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY PRETTY TO LOOK AT FROM A WINDOW.
2:18:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OR A TV.
2:18:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULD WE MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND TRY
TO KNOCK ONE OUT?
HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THEY NEED TO LOAD THIS UP?
2:18:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. PETTIS-MACKLE IS HERE.
I HAVE THE MATERIAL TO HAND OUT TO GO TO THE HEARINGS, IF
MR. TINKLER WOULD GIVE US A MINUTE OR TWO OR THREE.
2:18:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SHOULD WE TRY TO DO THE ONE?
2:18:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE YOU BILLING BY THE HOUR RIGHT NOW?
2:18:50PM >> HE IS.
2:18:51PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I'LL STAY AS LONG AS YOU NEED ME TOO.
2:18:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. TINKLER, HAVE A SEAT.
WE'LL HEAR ITEM 83.
ALEX, WE'LL HEAR YOURS.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
2:19:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHICH ADDRESS IS THIS ONE, PLEASE, MR.
CHAIRMAN?
2:19:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
ITEM NUMBER 83.
ANYBODY WHO HAS NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR
RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY OUR CLERK.
YOU WEREN'T SWORN IN EARLIER, STEPHANIE?
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
2:19:40PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
ITEM 38 IS A REVIEW HEARING REGARDING APPLICATION DE
1-26-136 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 205 WEST ROSS AVENUE.
THE PETITIONER FOR THIS MATTER IS ALEX RIOS.
HE FILED AN APPLICATION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ZONING
DEPARTMENT REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE
SECTION 27-282.9 SUBSECTION D REGARDING A SPECIFIC UNIT FOR
THIS PROJECT.
CITY STAFF WILL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU IN MORE DETAIL.
STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON AUGUST 2, 2026.
NOW, I PROVIDED OR MR. SHELBY HAS HANDED OUT THE CITY
COUNCIL PACKET REGARDING THIS REVIEW HEARING AND THE
PROCESS.
SO IN THE PACKET INCLUDES A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61
ENTITLED REVIEW, WHICH GOVERNS THE PROCESS FOR THIS REVIEW
HEARING.
I ALSO PROVIDED A SAMPLE MOTION.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO
USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THE REVIEW HEARING.
AS MENTIONED, CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J-3 IN
PARTICULAR PROVIDES THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN -- SHOULD CONDUCT
A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING, WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS
NOT LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW TO THAT INFORMATION OR
DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED FOR THE DESIGN
EXCEPTION APPLICATION.
CITY COUNCIL WAS ENTITLED TO RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE AT THIS
HEARING.
YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY SITTING IN THE SHOES OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR AND YOU WILL MAKE THE DECISION REGARDING THE
REQUEST.
ERIC COTTON IS PRESENT REGARDING THIS APPLICATION TO PROVIDE
MORE DETAIL TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE DENIAL OF THE
DECISION.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE TWO
ACTIONS.
CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE DENY THE REQUEST FOR DE 1-26-136
OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR AND APPROVE THE REQUEST IN DE 1-26-136.
IN THE SAMPLE MOTION, I GAVE THE CRITERIA IN 27-60 TO USE
THAT IS REQUIRED TO USE IN YOUR ANALYSIS IN MAKING YOUR
DECISION.
SO THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SAMPLE MOTION.
SO I JUST DRAW THAT TO CITY COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.
2:22:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:22:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR BOTH HEARINGS TO ASK COUNCIL TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY EX
PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN RECEIVED BY COUNCIL
OPEN FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
2:22:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCIL HAVE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION ON
EITHER ONE OF THE NEXT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:22:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I RECEIVED A TEXT MESSAGE EARLIER TODAY, BUT
I SENT IT TO MY CITY E-MAIL.
2:22:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
2:22:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT ASKED ME TO LOOK AT THE E-MAIL THAT WAS
SENT.
2:22:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
E-MAILS HAVE BEEN SENT.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE E-MAILS.
2:22:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE E-MAIL FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
MR. COTTON.
2:22:53PM >>ERIC COTTON:
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AS MS. MACKLE SAID, DE 1-26-136 PROPERTY AT 205 WEST ROSS
AVENUE.
AGAIN, THE PETITIONER IS ALEX RIOS.
PROPERTY OWNER SMW ACQUISITIONS.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RM 24.
THE REQUEST WAS TO REDUCE THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING ENCLOSED
PARKING SPACE IN THE FRONT YARD.
JUST A QUICK AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT.
NORTH SIDE OF ROSS.
SURVEY OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY, THIS IS A SURVEY.
AERIAL SHOWS THAT THE HOUSE SHOWN ON THE SURVEY IS NO LONGER
THERE.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK EXAMPLE WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A MOMENT.
THERE IS AN ALLEY THAT RUNS BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND YOU CAN
SEE THAT THE ALLEY IS PAVED AND USABLE.
SO GETTING INTO THE SITE PLAN, I'LL PULL THIS UP A LITTLE
BIT.
WRONG WAY.
THIS IS THE ISSUE OF THE CODE.
SO THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED REQUIRES
THE REQUIRED TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE FRONT YARD BE
ENCLOSED.
SO YOU CAN SEE BOTH ON THE ELEVATION, THE TWO END UNITS HAVE
TWO-CAR GARAGES, MIDDLE UNIT ONLY HAS A ONE-CAR GARAGE,
WHICH IS ALSO REFLECTED ON THE SITE PLAN.
SO WHEN WE REVIEWED THIS FROM THE STAFF LEVEL, IT WAS
DETERMINED THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE.
AND THE ALLOWANCE IS IF YOU PARK IN THE REAR, YOU DON'T HAVE
-- THE PARKING SPACE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ENCLOSED.
THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO HAVE ALLEY ACCESS, ALL THE
PARKING BE IN THE REAR AND WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE INSIDE OF A
GARAGE.
SPECIFICALLY, THE CODE SECTION -- JUST SAYING IF IT IS IN
THE FRONT YARD, REQUIRED SPACES SHALL BE ENCLOSED.
SPACES ARE NOT.
THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.
COULD BE IN THE REAR YARD AND NOT ENCLOSED.
THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR STAFF'S DENIAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM
FOR YOU.
2:25:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:25:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS A NEW TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY, ISN'T
THERE?
A TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY?
2:25:10PM >>ERIC COTTON:
YES, MA'AM.
2:25:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DOESN'T THAT REQUIRE PARKING IN THE BACK?
2:25:12PM >>ERIC COTTON:
NO, MA'AM.
NOT REQUIRED IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:25:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS IT SUGGESTED?
2:25:17PM >>ERIC COTTON:
IT'S RECOMMENDED.
THE CODE DOESN'T GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT PARKING.
WEST TAMPA HAS THAT REQUIREMENT.
IT'S JUST -- IT'S THERE, AVAILABLE, BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT.
2:25:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THEY
WOULDN'T NEED THIS WAIVER IF THEY JUST PUT THE PARKING IN
THE BACK.
2:25:33PM >>ERIC COTTON:
CORRECT.
IF PARKING WAS COMING OFF THE ALLEY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE
NEEDED TO ASK FOR THE WAIVER.
2:25:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
APPLICANT?
2:25:54PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ALEX RIOS WITH RIOS ARCHITECTURE REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A THREE UNIT SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED TOWNHOME PROJECT WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY.
THE TWO END UNITS ARE PROVIDED WITH A FRONT ENTRY, TWO CAR
ENCLOSED GARAGE AND THE INTERIOR UNIT PROVIDED WITH A FRONT
ENTRY SINGLE CAR GARAGE.
PER SECTION 27-82.9 OF WHICH SETS THE STANDARDS FOR
SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES REQUIRES THAT TWO CAR
ENCLOSED PARKING GARAGES BE PROVIDED WHEN PARKING ACCESS IS
OFF THE FRONT YARD.
THE TWO END UNITS FULLY COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT WHILE
THE INTERIOR UNIT DOES NOT FULLY COMPLY AS IT ONLY HAS A
ONE-CAR ENCLOSED GARAGE.
OUR DESIGN EXCEPTION APPLICATION TO WAIVE THIS REQUIREMENT
FOR ONLY THE MIDDLE UNIT WAS DENIED.
AS NOTED IN THE DENIAL LETTER, GROUNDS FOR DENIAL WAS BASED
ON HAVING ACCESS TO THE REAR ALLEY.
HEADING INTO TODAY'S PRESENTATION, IT IS MY INTENT TO
DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ENTIRE OUTCOME OF THE PETITION SHOULD
NOT REST SOLELY ON ACCESS TO THE REAR ALLEY.
I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITION NOT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT
WE CANNOT COMPLY, BUT RATHER ON THE GROUNDS OF THE CLIENT'S
REASONABLE INTENT, COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OTHER REGULATIONS,
LAND USE POLICY, CODE AMBIGUITY, AND APPLICATION OF THE
CODE.
THE CLIENT'S INTENT FROM THE ONSET IN PURCHASING THIS
PROPERTY IS TO DEVELOP TOWNHOMES WITH SPACIOUS BACKYARDS.
THIS SEEMINGLY REASONABLE INTENT IN AN OVERLAY THAT HAS NOT
CODIFIED A STRICT REQUIREMENT FOR ALLEY ACCESS SUCH AS THE
WEST TAMPA OVERLAY IS SEVERELY COMPROMISED IF PARKING IS
PROVIDED OFF THE REAR.
I'LL SHOW TWO EXAMPLES HERE.
SO HERE IS THE EXAMPLE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AS WE HAVE
PRESENTED IT TODAY.
YOU COULD SEE THE 22-FOOT DEEP GARAGE, 46-FOOT DEEP BUILDING
FOOTPRINT.
8-FOOT REAR PORCH AND A 23 BY 30-FOOT 6-INCH BACKYARD.
USING THOSE SAME DIMENSIONS OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, 46,
8, AND 22, WE HAVE A SMALLER BACKYARD.
THREE FEET SHORTER ON THIS SIDE.
ONCE ACCOUNTING FOR A WALKWAY TO AND FROM THE GARAGE WE ARE
ABOUT FIVE FEET SHORT OR SIX FEET SHORT ON THIS SIDE.
THE SPACE ALONE IS NOT THE ISSUE.
IT'S ALSO THE FEELING OF SPACE.
YOU HAVE THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE BEHIND YOU, SINGLE STORY
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OF THE GARAGE IN FRONT OF YOU, A
DEMISING WALL SEPARATING THE TWO UNITS TO YOUR RIGHT.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR UNIT, NOW THAT THE FRONT YARD HAS
SHIFTED FORWARD, YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORING LOT WHICH
WOULD HAVE VIEWS OF YOUR BACKYARD.
ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE, EAST AND NORTH SIDES OF THE ALLEY
ARE COMPLETELY UNUSED.
CURRENTLY BY ANY PROPERTY.
THERE IS A PORTION OF THE ALLEY THAT EXTENDS NORTH HERE THAT
IS USED BY ANOTHER PROJECT, BUT THIS PORTION AND THIS
PORTION, THERE IS NO DIRECT ACCESS TO ANY PROPERTY
CURRENTLY.
THAT IS MAINLY DUE PARTIALLY TO THE CONDITION OF THE ALLEY.
I DO HAVE A VIDEO OF DRIVING THROUGH IT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, I CAN SHOW IT AT A LATER TIME.
MANY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S LAND USE POLICIES SUPPORT OUR
DESIGN EXCEPTION.
POLICY 282 ENCOURAGES AND INCENTIVIZES THE UTILIZATION OF
GREENSPACE BEYOND MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
POLICY 9310 ENCOURAGES FLEXIBILITY IN LAND USE REGULATIONS
TO ACCOMMODATE CHANGING LIFESTYLES AND A MIX OF HOUSING.
RARELY CAN YOU FIND A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WITH A MEANINGFUL
PRIVATE BACKYARD.
LET ALONE ONE WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A POOL.
PRESERVING THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE IS A MEANINGFUL DESIGN
OBJECTIVE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE COMPROMISED SOLELY BY THIS
REQUIREMENT THAT THE MIDDLE UNIT SECOND PARKING SPACE BE
ENCLOSED.
THERE'S ALSO A DEGREE OF AMBIGUITY AND EXCESSIVE RESTRICTION
WHEN IT COMES TO CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED TOWNHOMES.
HERE YOU SEE SEMI DETACHED, ATTACHED, AND MULTIFAMILY-STYLE
TOWNHOME STANDARDS.
THE CODE RECOGNIZES A TWO-CAR ENCLOSED PARKING CONFIGURATION
AT THE FRONT AND OPEN NON-ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES -- THE
CODE RECOGNIZES A TWO CAR ENCLOSED PARKING CONFIGURATION OF
THE FRONT AND OPEN NON-ENCLOSED TWO CAR PARKING
CONFIGURATION WHEN ACCESSED OFF THE REAR, BUT DOES NOT
CONTEMPLATE A HYBRID CONDITION IN WHICH ONE REQUIRED PARKING
SPACE IS ENCLOSED AT THE FRONT AND THE SECOND IS PROVIDED AT
THE REAR.
IT WOULD ALSO STATE THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS EXCESSIVELY
RESTRICTING AS SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES IS THE ONLY
PROJECT TYPE UNIQUELY SUBJECT TO THIS TWO CAR ENCLOSED
PARKING REQUIREMENT.
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, SEMI DETACHED AND MULTIFAMILY
TOWNHOME STYLE DO NOT HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT.
RELIEF FROM THIS CODE SECTION IS COMMONLY SOUGHT AFTER VIA A
WAIVER ON PD APPLICATIONS.
YOU MAY RECALL LAST MONTH'S REZONING HEARING WHICH HAD A
FOUR UNIT TOWNHOME WITH SINGLE CAR ENCLOSED PARKING AT THE
FRONT.
WITH THIS CODE SECTION LISTED AS A WAIVER.
WE BELIEVE IT IS DISPROPORTIONATE TO REQUIRE A PD PROCESS
SIMPLY TO ADDRESS A LIMITED PARKING CONFIGURATION.
THE PETITION BEFORE YOU TODAY SIMPLY RECOGNIZES ONE CAR
ENCLOSED SPACE FOR THE MIDDLE UNIT.
THE PROPOSAL MEETS LAND USE CODE, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS
FOR PARKING DEMAND, GREENSPACE, AND SETBACKS.
IT PROMOTES FLEXIBILITY AND DIVERSE HOUSING WITH MEANINGFUL
GREENSPACE AND PRIVATE YARDS.
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS PETITION.
THANK YOU.
2:32:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:32:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU CAN'T FIT IT WITHIN THE CODE, IT KIND
OF SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING TOO MUCH IN TOO LITTLE.
2:32:41PM >> THIS CONFIGURATION IS A COMMONLY SOUGHT-AFTER PROPOSAL
WHEN DOING THREE AND FOUR UNIT TOWNHOME CONFIGURATIONS.
IT IS ONLY THE MIDDLE UNIT THAT IS SEEKING RELIEF.
WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING BEYOND -- WE ARE STILL PROVIDING
THE REQUIRED PARKING.
IT'S JUST THE CONFIGURATION THAT IS DIFFERENT.
IF WE, FOR EXAMPLE, WERE TO DO MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME STYLE,
WHICH WOULD BE MORE SUITABLE FOR A CORNER LOT, WE WOULD NOT
BE SUBJECT TO THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED ONE CAR ENCLOSED PARKING.
2:33:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COULD YOU PUT -- YOU COULD PUT TWO UNITS
ON THIS PROPERTY AND STAY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE CODE.
2:33:29PM >> SO A TWO UNIT ONLY REQUIRES -- TWO UNIT WOULD BE
CLASSIFIED AS SEMI DETACHED.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ONLY A SINGLE CAR PARKING.
ONCE YOU DO THREE OR MORE UNITS IN A ROW, IT IS NOW CALLED
ATTACH AND THE ONLY STYLE THAT REQUIRES THE TWO CAR PARKING.
EVEN THE MULTIFAMILY STYLE WHICH YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO
SIX OR SEVEN --
2:33:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M LEARNING SOMETHING TODAY.
THAT IS FACTUAL INFORMATION?
I'LL CALL HIM UP IN A SECOND.
THE DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE MIDDLE UNIT, CAN IT ACCOMMODATE
A VEHICLE?
2:34:03PM >> YES.
IT IS A SINGLE CAR ENCLOSURE WITH ANOTHER --
2:34:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW LONG IS THE DRIVEWAY BEFORE YOU GET TO
RIGHT-OF-WAY, BEFORE SIDEWALK?
2:34:10PM >> TO THE SIDEWALK, I'M NOT SURE.
TO THE PROPERTY LINE IT'S 25 FEET.
THAT IS THE SETBACK.
2:34:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS THERE A SIDEWALK?
2:34:17PM >> THERE IS A SIDEWALK.
LET ME PULL IT UP.
IT ISN'T SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF
DISTANCE.
2:34:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DO YOU HAVE 20 FEET BEFORE A SIDEWALK?
THAT'S MY QUESTION SO THAT YOU COULD PARK A CAR WITHOUT
HITTING SIDEWALK?
2:34:35PM >> WE HAVE 25 FEET FROM THE GARAGE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND
ADDITIONAL, I'M GOING TO SAY, TEN, CONSERVATIVELY TEN FEET
TO GET TO THE CURB.
2:34:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEN YOU WOULD HAVE --
2:34:47PM >> WE DO MEET THE REQUIRED PARKING.
STILL HAVE TWO CARS PROVIDED.
IT'S JUST THE ENCLOSURE THAT IS THE RESTRICTING PIECE.
2:34:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. COTTON, COULD YOU COME UP.
THE TESTIMONY THAT MR. RIOS, THIS SEEMS TO BE AN INTERESTING
PART OF THE CODE, THAT IF THIS WAS -- IF THIS WAS JUST TWO
UNITS, THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO PARK THIS WAY?
2:35:09PM >>ERIC COTTON:
THAT IS CORRECT.
THE CODE ONLY REQUIRES THAT THE SPACES EITHER BE ENCLOSED OR
EITHER A ONE-CAR GARAGE OR ONE CAR CARPORT.
IT HAS TO BE INTEGRATED.
2:35:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A DUPLEX, THEY ONLY HAVE TO PARK ONE CAR
INSIDE.
TRIPLEX, THEY HAVE TO PARK TWO CARS INSIDE?
2:35:27PM >>ERIC COTTON:
WELL, SEMI DETACHED AND SINGLE-FAMILY
ATTACHED IN OUR NOMENCLATURE FOR THE CODE.
2:35:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
VERY INTERESTING.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:35:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT PREVENTS TOO MUCH FROM
GOING ON TOO LITTLE.
2:35:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW WIDE IS THE LOT?
2:35:46PM >> I BELIEVE 82 FEET WIDE.
YES, 82 FEET WIDE.
JUST TO BE FRANK, THIS IS IN MY OPINION NOT AN
OVER-DENSIFICATION FROM SOME OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS YOU
MIGHT SEE VIA A PD.
THREE UNITS ARE PRETTY COMFORTABLY LAID OUT ON THE SITE.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY OVERREACHING IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR
OVERALL SCALE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
2:36:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG ASKED IF YOU HAD
PICTURES.
IT'S JUST ABOUT THE PARKING SO IT DOESN'T MATTER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
YOU CAN COME UP SIR AND START WITH YOUR NAME.
2:36:37PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
CAESAR GARCIA.
I HAVE BUILT FOUR UNITS BEFORE.
SINGLE CAR GARAGE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT BEHIND 275.
THE PARKING, ACTUALLY HAVE SINGLE CAR GARAGE.
NEIGHBORS THINK THE PARKING IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD IN
REGARDS TO THEM PARKING BECAUSE THEY CAN PARK THEIR CARS
INSIDE A GARAGE AND ALSO PARK BEHIND THE GARAGE AS WELL.
THAT'S A GOOD AREA FOR THEM AS WELL TO PARK.
THERE'S ACTUALLY EIGHT UNITS IN TOTAL IN THAT AREA WHICH
EVERYBODY THINKS IS PERFECTLY FINE.
2:37:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE.
IS THERE ALLEY ACCESS?
2:37:15PM >> NO.
THERE'S NO ALLEY ACCESS.
2:37:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHY.
THANK YOU.
2:37:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MS. POYNOR, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
2:37:23PM >> I'M COMING.
GOOD AFTERNOON.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.
THIS WHOLE TANDEM PARKING, REMEMBER, WE WERE GOING TO GET
RID OF TANDEM PARKING.
PARK IN THE GARAGE, PARK BEHIND IT.
THEN YOU END UP WITH PEOPLE PARKING BEHIND THEIR GARAGE
DOOR, BUT THEY DON'T STAY PARKED BEHIND THEIR GARAGE DOOR
BECAUSE WHEN THEIR SPOUSE, THEIR ROOMMATE, BOYFRIEND,
GIRLFRIEND, WHOEVER WANTS TO GET OUT IN THE MORNING THEY
CAN'T GET OUT.
THIS CAR IS ALMOST NEVER PARKED HERE IN MY COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW WHY?
IT IS PARKED IN THE STREET IN VISITOR'S PARKING BECAUSE ONE
SPOUSE HAS TO LEAVE AT THE BUTT CRACK OF DAWN AND THE OTHER
ONE DOESN'T LEAVE UNTIL LATER.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CREATING.
A TANDEM PARKING SITUATION WHICH YOU GUYS ABSOLUTELY HAD
EVERY INTENTION OF GETTING RID OF.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT UNTIL THAT GENTLEMAN GOT UP HERE
TO SPEAK.
NOW 82 FEET IS 27 FEET WIDE PER UNIT.
ARE WE AGAIN GOING WAY OVER THE 50% DENSITY?
I FOUND OUT LAST WEEK THAT THEY HAVE TO, IF IT'S
MULTIFAMILY, IF IT'S ATTACHED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY
HAVE TO BUILD A VAULT, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET SMALLER UNITS.
AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING TEN POUNDS OF SUGAR IN A FIVE POUND
SACK.
THANK YOU.
ALSO, DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMENT?
TAMPA HEIGHTS IS THE EPITOME OF COMMENTING.
THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST LAND USE AREAS IN THE CITY.
DID YOU NOT GET ANY KIND OF INFORMATION FROM THEM ABOUT
THIS?
FOLLOW WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS.
2:39:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE DID GET AN E-MAIL.
2:39:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS?
2:39:12PM >>ERIC COTTON:
NO, SIR.
2:39:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
REBUTTAL?
2:39:17PM >> JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE REASON I BELIEVE THIS IS AN
OVER-RESTRICTING COMPONENT BECAUSE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER
TOWNHOME STYLES.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT I CAN'T COMPLY.
IT'S THAT I BELIEVE THIS RESTRICTION IS, THIS PORTION IS
OVERREACHING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOMES.
IT IS THE MOST COMMONLY WAIVED PARKING REQUIREMENT WHEN
GOING UP BEFORE YOU FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
SIMPLY CHANGING THIS TO A MULTIFAMILY RECONFIGURATION, IN
OTHER WORDS, IF THIS CENTRAL UNIT WRAPPED FOR WHATEVER
REASON, LIKE IF IT WAS A CORNER LOT, I WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT
TO MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOME STYLE AND THEN ONLY SUBJECT TO
SINGLE CAR PARKING.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE CONFIGURATION THAT IN MY OPINION IS
THE OVERREACHING COMPONENT.
TO HER COMMENT ABOUT OUTREACH, WE DID SPEAK TO THE TAMPA
HEIGHTS OVERLAY.
I'M FORGETTING THE ATTORNEY'S NAME THAT I SPOKE WITH WHO WAS
ACTIVE IN WRITING THE CODE, HE DID EXPRESS HIS OPPOSITION TO
THE COMMENT AND CONVERSATION.
HE'S NOT HERE TODAY.
BUT I DID RECEIVE HIS FEEDBACK.
I DID TAKE IT TO HEART.
WE BOTH ARE AMICABLY ON DIFFERENT SIDES.
I UNDERSTAND HIS INTENT WHEN WRITING THE OVERLAY WAS TO
PRESCRIPTIVELY PROVIDE REAR ALLEY ACCESS.
THE ISSUE I'M FACED WITH, ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER WHO
PURCHASED THIS LOT, IT'S NOT A CODIFIED REQUIREMENT TO
PROVIDE THAT REAR ALLEY ACCESS PARKING AND THE INTENT OF
HAVING A MORE APPROPRIATE BACKYARD.
SO MY STANCE IS KIND OF VAST IN TERMS OF THE REASONS.
IT'S OVER-RESTRICTION ON THE CODE, APPLICATION, WAIVER FOR
ONLY ONE OF THE UNITS.
IN MY OPINION, MORE USABLE GREENSPACE, MORE USABLE PRIVATE
GREENSPACE.
IT'S KIND OF VAST IN TERMS OF ALL THE REASONS.
I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT.
I HOPE YOU SEE MINE AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
2:41:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
I NEED A MOTION.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:41:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO PUT
PARKING IN THE BACK, IN THE ALLEY.
PUTTING THREE CURB CUTS ON ONE STREET THAT'S MEANT TO BE
WALKABLE WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ALLEY ACCESS, I
JUST DON'T THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF
DE1-26-136 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 205 WEST ROSS AVENUE
BECAUSE THE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT, SECTION
27-282.9, SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTIONS 2 REGARDING UNIT TWO OF
THE PROJECT BASED ON THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 27-60
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: MAINLY
BECAUSE THE PETITIONER SAYS HE CAN DO IT, HE JUST DOESN'T
WANT TO.
AND THAT'S NOT A REASON IN MY OPINION.
2:42:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
I GOT HERS FIRST.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, MR. SHELBY?
OKAY.
CLERK, CALL THE ROLL.
2:42:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
2:42:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
2:42:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
2:42:59PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
2:42:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
2:43:01PM >> CARLSON IS ABSENT.
2:43:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
2:43:03PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
ABSENT.
2:43:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
I'M SORRY FOR YOU WAITING FOR 84, BUT WE HAVE A TIME CERTAIN
AT 1:30 FOR OUR 95 ITEM.
MR. TINKLER, I BELIEVE YOUR PRESENTATION HAS BEEN UPLOADED.
2:43:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DID WE GET A COPY OF THIS?
2:43:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK IT WAS E-MAILED TO EVERYBODY.
YOU E-MAILED THAT TO EVERYBODY?
2:43:37PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE PowerPoint, NO.
THE DOCUMENT WAS.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, KEN TINKLER, CARLTON FIELDS.
WE'LL JUMP RIGHT IN.
THE COUNCIL TASKED ME WITH COMING BACK WITH ADDITIONAL
LANGUAGE REGARDING THE CONCEPT OF REMOVAL FOR CAUSE.
THIS CAME UP IN THE COMP TEXT OF SECTION 6.03 REGARDING THE
ABILITY TO REMOVE OFFICERS APPOINTED UNDER THIS SECTION.
THE LANGUAGE THAT WE LOOKED TO WAS THE LANGUAGE ACTUALLY
USED BY THE STATE FOR THE REMOVAL OF STATE INSPECTOR
GENERALS.
GIVEN THAT IT WOULD BE REMOVAL FOR CAUSE INCLUDING CONCERNS
REGARDING PERFORMANCE, MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE, MISCONDUCT
OR FAILURE TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES.
GIVEN THIS LANGUAGE HERE, WE MIRRORED IT AGAIN THEN IN
SECTION 12.01 REGARDING THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.
SO YOU'D HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE IN BOTH PLACES, WHICH WE
BELIEVE WAS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR DISCUSSION TWO WEEKS AGO.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ADDITION?
2:44:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DID YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN EMPLOYMENT LAW?
2:44:52PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I AM NOT AN EMPLOYMENT LAWYER.
2:44:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
GO AHEAD.
ANY QUESTIONS?
HEARING NONE.
2:44:58PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IN WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
THEY ASKED FOR A CHANGE REGARDING SECTION 10.07.
THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED BY
COUNCIL IN 2018 THAT DID NOT MAKE THE BALLOT.
THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE CITY AT THE TIME,
INCLUDED A SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO FLORIDA STATUTE 166031.
FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S PERSPECTIVE WOULD PREFER IT BE
SIMPLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.
WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT.
THE BALLOT QUESTION ALREADY USED THAT SAME LANGUAGE.
I WANTED TO ALERT YOU TO THAT CHANGE TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY
ISSUES WITH THAT.
2:45:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NONE.
HEARING NONE, CONTINUE.
2:45:40PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WONDERFUL.
I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE CURRENT DRAFT OF THE BALLOT
QUESTIONS SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS WOULD BE SEEN BY THE
VOTERS.
2:45:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE.
THAT WE GO THROUGH THEM ALL.
IF THERE'S ANY ONE THAT YOU WANT TO PULL FOR SEPARATE
DISCUSSION OR VOTE, WE CAN DO THAT AFTER IT'S DONE.
SO CONTINUE.
2:45:58PM >>KEN TINKLER:
WILL DO.
SECTION 2.03, I WON'T READ EVERY WORD OF THIS TO SAVE TIME
HERE.
BUT THE IDEA HERE IS TO BE ASKING THE VOTERS, GIVEN THAT THE
CITY COUNCIL PRESENTLY ADOPTS BYLAWS, REGULATIONS, THIS IS
SIMPLY CHANGING THE WORD FROM COMPEL TO REQUIRE.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.
SECTION 2.04, THIS ACTUALLY HAS AN ADDITION FROM MY
MEMORANDUM, AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THIS IS TO ALLOW YOU TO CREATE AND FILL ADDITIONAL STAFF
POSITIONS.
THEY RECOMMENDED ADDING IN THE PROVISIONS SPECIFYING THAT
SUCH PROVISION POSITIONS MAY SUPPORT ANY CITY COUNCIL
FUNCTION AND REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PRIOR MAYORAL
APPROVAL.
WE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT ADDITION AND IT FITS WITHIN THE
75 WORDS --
THAT IS ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE'RE ALLOWED 15 WORDS IN THE TITLE, 75 WORDS.
LEGISLATURE FEELS LOCAL GOVERNMENT GETS SHORT LANGUAGE WHEN
IT COMES TO THAT.
THEY, OF COURSE, HAVE NO LIMIT ON THEMSELVES.
2:47:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST LIKE SUNSHINE.
2:47:12PM >>KEN TINKLER:
SECTION 2.08, THIS IS GOVERNING -- IT'S A
CLARIFICATION REGARDING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH A READING OF
A FINAL ORDINANCE.
SIMPLY THAT IT IS NOW SET OUT TO FOLLOW STATE LAW.
SECTION 2.15, THIS IS REGARDING THE ABILITY TO OVERRIDE
MAYORAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
IT WOULD SET OUT THAT YOU ARE CREATING A SECTION IN THE
CHARTER FOR THIS PROVISION.
IT WOULD REQUIRE NO LESS THAN FIVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
APPROVE AND PROHIBITS THE MAYOR FROM REENACTING THAT
EXECUTIVE ORDER WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
SECTIONS 4.01 AND 4.03, REGARDING MAYORAL TERM LIMITS.
STRIKE OUT THE PRESENT PROVISION IN SECTION 4.01 AND CREATE
A NEW SECTION IN SECTION 4.03, WHICH HAS A MORE RESTRICTIVE
PROVISION SETTING FORTH THAT AN INDIVIDUAL CANNOT SERVE MORE
THAN SIX YEARS, AFTER THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE AMENDMENT AND
ONCE AGAIN BE ELECTED AS MAYOR.
THE SIX YEARS, AS WE DISCUSSED TWO WEEKS AGO IS IN REGARDS
TO AN ACTING MAYOR, A POSITION OF A PARTIAL TERM OF OFFICE.
2:48:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:48:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL LISTEN TO THEM ALL AND DO IT AT THE
END.
2:48:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I APOLOGIZE.
2:48:40PM >>KEN TINKLER:
6.02, REMOVAL OF 1979 LANGUAGE.
OBSOLETE AT THIS POINT.
SECTION 6.03, THIS IS THE POWER TO REMOVE CITY -- APPOINTED
CITY OFFICERS AFTER THE ABILITY FOR THE MAYOR AND THE
OFFICER TO BE HEARD.
THIS IS ALSO WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IN REGARDING FOR CAUSE.
SECTION 6.05, THIS IS REMOVING THE OBSOLETE RESIDENCY
REQUIREMENT REFERENCE, THAT IT WAS HELD OVER, AGAIN, FROM
PRIOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH.
SECTION 6.06, THIS IS SIMPLY CLARIFYING WHAT A MAJORITY VOTE
MEANS IN REGARDS TO SALARIES.
IT ALSO THEN EXPANDS YOUR ABILITY TO ACT BY BOTH RESOLUTION
OR ORDINANCE IN REGARDS TO SALARY.
SECTION 7.05 TYING THIS PARTICULAR SET OF MILLAGE TO THE
STATE MILLAGE LAW, MAKING THAT SPECIFIC, AND THAT WAS A
CHARTER REVIEW BOARD RECOMMENDATION.
SECTION 7.07, THIS IS THE BUDGET CHANGES DURING THE FISCAL
YEAR.
IT SETS OUT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO
REAPPROPRIATE FUNDS WITHOUT HAVING RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
MAYOR.
SECTION 9.02, ANOTHER OBSOLETE REFERENCE.
PRESENTLY PUT THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL ON A BOARD THAT
DOES NOT EXIST.
SECTION 10.06, AGAIN, REMOVING AN OBSOLETE REFERENCE TO
1976.
SECTION 10.07, THIS PROVISION IS IN REGARDS TO THE
INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM.
I MENTIONED EARLIER WE CHANGED THE CHARTER LANGUAGE TO
REFLECT THAT THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE INCORPORATING VIA STATE
LAW.
THIS WAS ANOTHER CARRY-OVER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTED
PREVIOUSLY.
SECTION 11.03, AGAIN, OBSOLETE REFERENCE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF REFERENCE TO THE '70s IN THE CHARTER
RIGHT NOW.
THIS ONE FROM 1975.
SECTION 10.01, THIS IS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL PROVISION.
OUTLINES IT WOULD OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE EXECUTIVE AND
LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES TO PERFORM INVESTIGATIONS, AUDITS, AND
REVIEWS.
REQUIRES THAT YOU ADOPT AN IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE CONSISTENT
WITH THE SPECIFIED POWERS AND AUTHORITIES.
IT DOES PROVIDE FOR THE TERM, APPOINTMENT AND REMOVAL BY
CITY COUNCIL AS SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A LONG PROVISION, TRYING TO MAKE IT FIT
IN 75 WORDS WAS THE FUN PART, BUT WE BELIEVE WE COVERED THE
MAJOR POINTS THAT YOU'VE INCLUDED.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE
ON THE LANGUAGE SO FAR.
2:51:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:51:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT I WANTED TO CITE, TWO IN PARTICULAR
THAT I HAVE CHALLENGES WITH.
I SAID THIS BEFORE.
NUMBER ONE, 4.03, WHICH IS TERM LIMITS ON THE MAYOR.
I SUPPORT TERM LIMITS ON THE MAYOR, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS
THE WRONG YEAR TO DO THEM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE A
POLITICAL EFFECT ON THE MAYORAL RACE FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE POLITICIZED THIS YEAR,
AND THAT'S JUST MY POSITION.
I THINK IT IS THE WRONG TIME TO DO THIS.
6.03, AGAIN, WITH REMOVAL, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT.
A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM OUT OF STATE WHO
COME FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA HERE TO
TAKE OVER DEPARTMENTS AND SO FORTH.
AND TO HAVE COUNCIL REMOVAL POWERS AS SET OUT I THINK ALL IT
TAKES IS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO ABUSE IT
AND THEN YOU HAVE A PERSON WHO IS HAVING A PERSONAL CRISIS
IN THEIR LIFE AND THEY ARE GOING TO REGRET THAT THEY EVER
CAME HERE.
I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
THOSE TWO I'D LIKE TO HAVE FOR SEPARATE, IF I MAY.
2:52:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON BACK ON?
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, IF YOU WANT TO
COME BACK ON, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:52:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO I HAD A QUESTION.
IN REGARDS TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, YOU OVERSAW THE
COMMISSION WORK.
WHAT DID THE COMMISSION SUGGEST OR VOTE ON?
AND WHAT DID COUNCIL EXPOUND UPON OR EXPAND UPON?
WAS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY SUPPORTED FROM THE
COMMISSION AND TO WHAT COUNCIL -- BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT A
COUPLE OF TIMES?
2:53:24PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION PROPOSED AN
INSPECTOR GENERAL POSITION THAT COULD BE BOTH INTERNAL STAFF
OR IT COULD BE AN OUTSIDE ENTITY.
THEY INCLUDED A SPECIFIC APPOINTMENT BOARD WITH SETTING OUT
PARTICULAR NAMES OF POSITIONS WITH PEOPLE IN TAMPA TO SERVE
IN THAT ROLE.
IT ALSO INCLUDED THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL IN THAT
APPOINTMENT PROCESS.
SO IT IS A DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU
TODAY.
IN TERMS OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BECOME THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
IT ALSO RESTRICTS THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION VERSION OF
THIS RESTRICTED THE INVESTIGATIONS TO THINGS THAT THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL RECEIVED IN WRITING WITH THE NAME ATTACHED
TO IT AS OPPOSED TO BEING ABLE TO INITIATE INVESTIGATIONS,
OTHER THINGS ON THEIR OWN.
2:54:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF I RECALL, IT WAS MR. CREIGHTON WHO
LED THE DISCUSSION ON THAT, I BELIEVE.
2:54:27PM >>KEN TINKLER:
HE CERTAINLY WAS A LARGE PARTICIPANT IN THE
ITEM.
ALL I CAN REFLECT IS THE MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M SURE YOU ALL APPOINTED NINE VERY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
2:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAS IT A 5-4 VOTE?
2:54:42PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I DO NOT REMEMBER THE VOTE COUNT.
2:54:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S UNANIMOUS OR NOT.
SO THAT WAS ONE.
THE SECOND IS THE FIRING OF DEPARTMENT HEADS.
IT WAS SAID LIKE IT'S HARD TO GET TO FIVE VOTES.
IT'S NOT HARD TO GET TO FOUR VOTES TO REMOVE A CHAIRMAN,
WHICH I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH.
IT CAN BE POLITICIZED.
2:55:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
-- GUY.
2:55:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IT'S TRUE.
THAT WAS AN EASY ONE.
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN WITH A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
SO I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT.
AND THEN IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF, FOR
WHATEVER PURPOSE OF COUNCIL, WHERE DOES IT LIMIT IT TO?
FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY COMMISSION, THEY SHARE A DRIVER.
LIKE I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
THE COUNCIL THEN SAY, WELL, WE HAVE NIGHT MEETINGS.
WE'LL GET A PERSONAL CHEF.
IS IT LIMITED TO, IF THE ATTORNEY NEEDS LIKE A LEGISLATIVE
AIDE OR A LEGAL ASSISTANT OR IF WE WANT TO HIRE MORE THAN
ONE LEGISLATIVE AIDE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION
WHICH IS BIGGER, THEY EACH HAVE TWO AIDES, BUT, YOU KNOW,
WHERE IS THE LIMIT ON THAT OR IS IT LIMITLESS?
I KNOW YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT WITHIN THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
WORDS, BUT DOES IT GIVE DISCRETION TO A COUNCIL TO HIRE
WHATEVER STAFF, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO?
I MENTION SOME EXTREMES, BUT WHERE IS THE LIMIT, IF THERE IS
ANY?
2:56:13PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE EDITS TO THAT PROVISION OF THE CHARTER
ARE JUST ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TO ALLOW YOU TO
HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFF BUT STILL RESTRICTS YOU TO WITHIN THE
BUDGET.
THE BUDGETARY PROCESS IS THE RESTRICTOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE
CHOICE.
THE INDIVIDUALS -- THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE IN THERE TODAY IS
FOR ANY PURPOSE THE CITY COUNCIL --
2:56:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING I'VE MENTIONED IS POSSIBLE, BUT
REALISTICALLY IT WOULD BE, IF WE HIRE OUR OWN CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY, WE HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES, BUT IT WOULD --
2:56:43PM >>KEN TINKLER:
STILL HAVE THE LIMITATIONS OF PUBLIC PURPOSE
AND ALL.
USE OF THE FUNDS.
2:56:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:56:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, I CAN CANCEL THE
ADVERTISING FOR MY PERSONAL MASSEUSE AND CHEF?
[ LAUGHTER ]
I SEE THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS BACK ON.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
PARTICIPATION?
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
WELCOME, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
I HAVE A FEW RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:57:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
EITHER ONE, STRONG MAYOR FORM OF
GOVERNMENT OR DON'T.
WHEN YOU SAY I WANT INSPECTOR GENERAL, I HAVEN'T HEARD
ANYTHING WHY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE OR MISSING
SOMETHING OR ANOTHER.
I HEARD IT FROM OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ONE, FT. LAUDERDALE
OR OTHERS, IF I RECALL, BUT WHAT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF THE
INDIVIDUAL AS INSPECTOR GENERAL THAT WE CANNOT DO OURSELVES
IN THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE TODAY?
2:57:51PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I THINK THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT,
COUNCILMAN, THIS WOULD CREATE A POSITION OUTSIDE OF THE
LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCHES THAT WOULD HAVE THE
ABILITY TO REVIEW BOTH.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PRESENTLY DOESN'T EXIST IN YOUR
CHARTER TODAY.
THIS WAS A PROPOSAL THAT CAME FROM THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION, AND THEN WAS REVISED PURSUANT TO YOUR DIRECTION
AS A COUNCIL TO REFLECT WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
2:58:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THEY CAN ALSO INVESTIGATE OURSELVES.
2:58:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M A TIGHT WAD WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC
MONEY.
LOOKING AT THINGS HAPPENING, THEY WANT TO ADD MORE AND MORE
OF SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T NEED OR MAY NOT NEED.
IF WE NEEDED SOMETHING, WE CAN HIRE SOMEONE FOR THAT, LAW
FIRM, WHATEVER, GO OUT AND DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO.
ACCOUNTANT OR CPA FIRM, WE CAN DO THAT NOW WITHOUT HIRING A
FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND HAVE TO PAY ALL THE BENEFITS AND THE
RETIREMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE A LARGER GOVERNMENT.
IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO WORK HERE, THEY CAN GO WORK
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.
HOWEVER, WHAT MR. MANISCALCO SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD
HAVE THE POWER TO FIRE SOMEBODY WITH FIVE VOTES WITHOUT
CAUSE.
YOU CAN FIRE SOMEBODY NOW WITH CAUSE, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR
ANYTHING ABOUT EARLIER JUST FIVE VOTES.
I'M SAYING WHO WOULD WANT TO COME HERE TO WORK AND KNOWINGLY
THAT SOMEBODY THAT DID NOT HIRE YOU SPECIFICALLY CAN GET
FIRED WITHOUT KNOWING ABOUT YOUR PRO FORMA, WITHOUT KNOWING
ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAYBE THEY DON'T LIKE HOW YOU
DRESS OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD COME TO WORK HERE
KNOWING THAT WITH FIVE VOTES OF COUNCIL, WHO YOU ARE NOT
ADDRESSING TO.
YOU ARE ADDRESSING TO THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE STRONG MAYOR
FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND, BY THE WAY, I THINK THEY LET GO
THREE OR FOUR SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
THREE OR FOUR HAVE BEEN FIRED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO WE CAN SEE THAT DOES WORK.
I JUST WANT TO GET THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST, EVEN THOUGH I
MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE.
WHAT I'M SAYING JUST TO ME, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY
UNLESS I REALLY NEED TO.
3:00:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN YOU REVIEW THAT FOR CAUSE?
IT HAS CAUSE IN IT NOW.
3:00:12PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF WE COULD PUT THE PowerPoint BACK ON.
PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO SHOW YOU THE LANGUAGE.
GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING HERE.
WE'LL DO THE PRIOR ONE.
3:00:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN YOU PUT IT ON COUNCIL SCREENS AS
WELL?
3:00:39PM >>KEN TINKLER:
THE ADDITION SINCE OUR LAST DISCUSSION WAS
INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE, MAY REMOVE FOR CAUSE, INCLUDING
CONCERNS REGARDING PERFORMANCE, MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE,
MISCONDUCT OR FAILURE TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES.
THAT WAS A DISCUSSION FROM TWO WEEKS AGO REGARDING THAT
LANGUAGE AND THIS MIRRORS WHAT THE STATE USES.
3:00:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS TO ELIMINATE THAT CONCERN THAT
OTHER COUNCILPERSONS HAD.
3:01:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE AGAIN, SAME CONTRACT I HEARD EARLIER
TODAY, YOU SIGN THAT, NOW YOU GOT TO DO AND NOT DO WHAT YOU
CAN'T DO.
RAM IT DOWN YOUR THROAT BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG, THIS, THAT
AND THE OTHER.
HERE AGAIN, I'M A STRONG BELIEVER THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO
WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY CAN FIRE YOU.
BUT WHEN YOU COME TO FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WITH ALL THIS,
THAT'S FINE AND DANDY ON THE WRITING, BUT YOU CAN DO
WHATEVER YOU WANT.
WHAT IS THE LOWEST DEGREE OF MALFEASANCE OR PERFORMANCE OR
WHATEVER?
ACCIDENT, MISCONDUCT, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DUTIES ARE.
YOU SHOULD GET FIRED AND YOU SHOULD GET FIRED FOR OTHER
CAUSES.
I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS THAT
I'VE WORKED WITH HAVE ALL DONE THAT.
WHY DO THEY NEED ME TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIRE
SOMEBODY?
I DON'T KNOW THE PERFORMANCE.
I VENTURE TO SAY THAT NONE OF US HERE KNOW WHAT MOST OF
THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS DO ON A DAILY BASIS, DAY IN AND DAY
OUT.
3:02:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
NO.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
CTTV, CAN YOU PUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BACK UP ON THE SCREEN
FOR ME SO I CAN SEE HIM?
THANK YOU.
3:02:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA KIND
OF HIT ON IT A LITTLE BIT.
I ALSO JUST WAS THINKING ABOUT SECTION 6.03 WITH THE CITY
OFFICERS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT.
WHILE WE DO HAVE OUR INTERACTIONS WITH SOME OF THE CITY
DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF, MAYBE NOT ON THAT DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
SOMEONE ELSE WILL.
AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT, WHAT I DO THINK, THOUGH, IS
MAYBE IT'S NOT IN THE CHARTER, BUT MAYBE SOME KIND OF, I
DON'T KNOW, MAYBE PROCESS OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO
THROUGH AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAY IF WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE
WITH A STAFF MEMBER.
BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL IS THAT SOME OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED,
AND -- I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR BUT ALSO ONLY BEEN HERE A
YEAR.
JUST FROM WHAT I'VE OBSERVED.
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MAYBE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INSTANCES OR
EXPERIENCES OR SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, MAYBE WITH
CERTAIN DEPARTMENT HEADS OR STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE KIND OF
LED TO THIS BAD TASTE IN SOMEONE'S MOUTH, MAYBE.
THIS IS COMING, LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE
OVERSIGHT OF THIS.
MAYBE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CHARTER BUT SOME KIND
OF PROCESS OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE, LIKE, OKAY, THIS
RELATIONSHIP THAT WE ARE -- WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AS
CITY OFFICIAL, AS CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
MAYBE THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HR OR WHATEVER, BUT MAYBE THAT IS MORE
SO THE CONVERSATION THAN THEM COMING HERE AND IT BEING FIVE
VOTE THAT WE GET RID OF SOMEONE.
THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT.
3:04:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:04:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
WOULD HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO DO THAT WITH US BECAUSE THOSE
FOLKS WORK FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
THEY DO NOT WORK FOR US.
SO THERE WOULD BE NOTHING THAT WE COULD CREATE BECAUSE THAT
WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE TO
AGREE TO.
THEY MADE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT THEY WOULDN'T.
3:04:48PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.
WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS, WE HAVE A LOT OF BRIGHT MINDS HERE.
SOMEONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
3:04:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH
IN?
ANY ITEMS YOU WANT TO PULL ON THIS FOR DISCUSSION?
3:05:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
3:05:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:05:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY ON THAT ONE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL
CASES, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW, WHERE I'VE
BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, CHIEF OF
STAFF AND HR.
WE HAVE A GREAT CITY ATTORNEY NOW WHO IS VERY BALANCED.
HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T GET HIM IN TROUBLE.
BUT THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF REFUSE TO INVESTIGATE OR
LOOK AT THE FACTS ON CERTAIN FOLKS WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY
BREAKING THE LAW AND ETHICS RULES.
THEY JUST WON'T DO THAT.
THEY'LL COME AFTER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT WON'T GO AFTER
THEIR OWN STAFF.
I TOLD THE MAYOR TO HER FACE, IF MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE DID
EVEN A SMALL PART OF WHAT SOME OF THESE FOLKS DID, THEY
WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES COMING TO US EVEN IN PUBLIC COMMENT
COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
HR, CHIEF OF STAFF DON'T DO ANYTHING.
THIS IS A VERY RARE THING THAT YOU WOULD USE, WHEN SOMEBODY
IS EITHER BLATANTLY BREAKING THE LAW, ETHICS RULES OR
BLATANTLY CAUSING HARM IN THE ORGANIZATION.
I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED THREE OR FOUR TIMES MAYBE IN
THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
BESIDES THAT, IT WOULD RARELY BE USED AND IT'S FIVE VOTES.
LOOK AT HOW WE ALL THINK DIFFERENTLY ON THIS.
LASTLY, I SAY THIS EVERY TIME, BUT THE TERM STRONG MAYOR
KEEPS BEING CIRCULATED AROUND BY PEOPLE WHO -- BY MAYORS WHO
WANT TO PRETEND LIKE THEY HAVE MORE AUTHORITY THAN THEY DO.
THE CHARTER CLEARLY HAS TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT THAT THE
UNITED STATES, STATE OF FLORIDA, CITY OF TAMPA WERE SET UP
WITH A BALANCE OF POWERS.
THE LAST TWO MAYORS HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE POWERS OF CITY
COUNCIL, AND ONE OF THEM HAS EVEN SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL
NEEDS TO STAY IN THEIR LANE.
WE NEED TO PUT BACK THE POWERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
THIS MAYOR HAS SAID THAT THIS IS A POWER GRAB.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT.
IT'S PUTTING POWER BACK THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE
BECAUSE THE LAST TWO MAYORS DID A POWER GRAB AND TOOK POWER
AWAY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE.
WE HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE EVERY WEEK.
THE FACT THAT THE MAYOR WAS TOO AFRAID TO COME DOWN TODAY TO
EVEN FACE THE PUBLIC JUST SHOWS THE PUBLIC SHE'S NOT
RESPONSIVE TO THE PUBLIC LIKE WE ARE AND WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS A SAY.
THANK YOU.
3:07:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
3:07:19PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S FIRST POINT IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL COULD DO?
3:07:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT DEPENDS ON ANY CHARGES THEY --
3:07:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TO HIS POINT, GONE TO THE MAYOR ABOUT MAYBE
CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, STAFF MEMBERS OR SOMETHING, AND NOTHING
HAS BEEN DONE.
WOULD THAT BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THE INSPECTOR GENERAL COULD
COME IN AT THAT POINT IN TIME?
3:07:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY IF IT FELL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL CHARTER LANGUAGE, IF IT WAS WITHIN THEIR
WORLD OF LEGALITIES, VIOLATION, AN ALLEGED VIOLATION OF LAW
OR ORDINANCE OR RULE.
3:08:07PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK.
3:08:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL WEIGH IN ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.
3:08:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
VERY UP FRONT.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LEFT, THEY DIDN'T LEAVE BECAUSE OF
THE MAYOR.
THEY LEFT BECAUSE OF US.
AND I'LL TAKE A LIE DETECTOR TEST OF ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO
TALK TO ME.
ONE LADY WAS CRYING OUTSIDE.
AND I LOOKED AT HER, AND I COULD TELL SHE WAS NOT GOING TO
TAKE ANYMORE.
WHEN SHE RESIGNED AND LEFT, WE HAD A MAN THAT WE HIRED,
GENTLEMAN FROM ORLANDO, IF I RECALL.
CHECKING MY OLD MEMORY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I CALLED THAT MAN THE SMARTEST MAN ON EARTH.
YOU KNOW WHY.
THE DAY BEFORE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE HE CALLED US AND
SAID I DON'T WANT THE JOB.
3:08:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT WAS CRA.
3:09:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, MR. CHAIR?
3:09:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
ONE, I WAS PARKING MY CAR.
ANOTHER LADY, NOT THE SAME ONE, SAW WALKING, I'M LOOKING AT
HER, I TOLD HER, COME HERE, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU.
SHE CAME UP.
LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.
YOUR BODY LANGUAGE IS TELLING ME YOU'RE NOT HAPPY HERE AND
YOU'RE LEAVING.
YOU CAN ASK HER.
I'LL TELL YOU LATER.
SHE SAID HOW DO YOU KNOW?
I SAID, IT SHOWS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I LEFT.
TWO DAYS LATER, SHE LEFT.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
3:09:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN CARLSON.
3:09:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WANTED TO SAY THIS BECAUSE WE WERE AT TUSKEGEE EVENT,
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, BECAUSE HE REFERENCED THIS, WHICH
SOMEBODY CALLED HIM UP AND THEY SAID, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
COME UP, AREN'T YOU THE CHAIR.
HE SAID IN A FUNNY WAY, THAT IS A LONG STORY.
YOUR LEVITY, I WANTED TO SALUTE THAT.
YOU ARE VERY KIND.
COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO ADDRESS, WHICH IS ON THAT 6.03
ON REMOVAL, IT STATES, QUOTE, FAILURE TO CARRY OUT DUTIES.
OF COURSE, SIR, YOU WERE ASKED, ALL LEGALLY SUFFICIENT, ALL
THAT GOOD STUFF, BUT THAT'S ABOUT AS SUBJECTIVE AS ALL HELL.
WHAT ARE THE FAILURE TO CARRY OUT DUTIES?
WE TALKED ABOUT FOLKS NOT RETURNING CALLS.
AND PLEASE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF
I'M WRONG IN QUOTING YOU, BUT I THINK YOU JUST SAID THIS
WOULD HAVE BEEN PUT INTO EFFECT THREE TO FOUR TIMES OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS.
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
WE CAN'T HAVE THIS USED UNLESS IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST
AN ABOMINATION.
CAN WE WRITE IN THE WORD ABOMINATION?
I'M JOKING.
TO ME, WAY TOO SUBJECTIVE.
TERM LIMITS, I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT, WHEN I SAY IT
COULD BE POLITICIZED, I'M NOT ACCUSING ANYBODY OF BAD FAITH,
IF I WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR, YOU KNOW WHAT, PEOPLE ARE SO
ANGRY ABOUT THIS, PEOPLE DEMANDED WE PASS A CHARTER
AMENDMENT PUTTING TERM LIMITS FOR MAYOR, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT
ELECTION TO HAVE THIS.
THAT'S WHAT I DO.
PEOPLE RUNNING FOR MAYOR ARE SMART.
THAT'S MY POINT.
THANK YOU, SIR.
3:11:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:11:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THERE IS A LOT THERE.
AS I SAID LAST TIME, I DON'T THINK THAT PARTICULAR CHARTER
AMENDMENT WOULD BE A POLITICAL ISSUE UNLESS -- I THINK THE
MAYOR AND HER PEOPLE WILL RUN A CAMPAIGN AGAINST THESE
AMENDMENTS LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.
THE LAST TIME, THEY DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH, WHICH IS ALSO
DISAPPOINTING.
WE'LL SEE ALL KINDS OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
TERM LIMITS ARE A BASIC THING AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY
CURRENT CANDIDATE.
IT'S KIND OF MOOT.
IT WOULD ULTIMATELY AFFECT WHOEVER WINS FROM WINNING BEYOND
THAT.
IT AFFECTS ALL 15 OR WHATEVER CANDIDATES THAT MIGHT
ULTIMATELY RUN EQUALLY.
BACK TO THE PERSONNEL THING, WE'VE BEEN AROUND AND AROUND.
I'VE PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO ALMOST EVERYBODY WHO HAS LEFT.
IN FACT, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS OF GROUPS OF FORMER
LEADERS AND FROM THE CITY.
AND ALL OF THEM SAY THE SAME THING, HR, CHIEF OF STAFF, AND
MAYOR WON'T DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE CULTURE TO MAKE IT
POSITIVE FOR THE SMART PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CITY.
CURRENT EMPLOYEES WHO COMPLAIN TO ME ALL THE TIME.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE CRIED AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY
ALLEGEDLY SAID THE MAYOR HAS CALLED PERSONALLY AND SCREAMED
AND CURSED AT THEM.
I CAN GO THROUGH MORE DETAILS IF YOU WANT, BUT TO BLAME CITY
COUNCIL FOR THE DEPARTURE OF ANY OF THOSE FOLKS IS TERRIBLE.
MULTIPLE CRA STAFF WERE PRACTICALLY CRYING ON MY SHOULDER
EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY WERE SO UNHAPPY BECAUSE THE MAYOR WAS
INTERVENING.
WE SEE THAT HAPPENING AS WELL.
OUR OWN STAFF DON'T REPORT TO US.
AGAIN, USURPING THE POWER OF CITY COUNCIL AND USURPING THE
POWER OF CRA.
WE'VE GOT TO REBALANCE EVERYTHING.
THE PUBLIC EXPECTS US TO HAVE THE POWERS THAT ARE IN THE
CHARTER.
AND WHEN A MAYOR -- IT'S REALLY ONLY THE LAST TWO -- WHEN A
MAYOR TRIES TO BLOCK THOSE POWERS, IT'S USURPING THE POWERS
GRANTED IN THE CHARTER.
ALL THIS IS DOING IS SLIGHTLY CLEANING IT UP TO MAKE IT A
LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THANK YOU.
3:13:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'LL SPEAK AND THEN CALL FOR A VOTE ON
THESE THINGS.
I'LL SPEAK WITH THE ONE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE ONE THAT SEEMS
TO BE HOTTEST.
THAT IS ABOUT REMOVING STAFF.
SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE CAME FROM ME AND SOME OF IT CAME FROM
OTHER FOLKS.
FIVE VOTES IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET.
WE'VE HAD EXAMPLES IN THE CITY MANY MAYORS AGO WHERE
SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY BAD BUT THE MAYOR DID
NOT WANT TO REMOVE THAT PERSON BECAUSE OF FRIENDSHIPS AND
BEING KIND TO THE PERSON, BUT THE PERSON SHOULD HAVE BEEN
REMOVED.
THERE HAVE BEEN EXAMPLES OF THAT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION OR THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THAT.
SOME TIME AGO.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS PLAY OUT IN REAL LIFE.
THIS IS NOT JUST THEORETICAL.
I SPOKE TO THE MAYOR, I SPOKE WITH OTHER FOLKS ABOUT THIS,
PART OF THE REASON WHY THIS WAS INITIALLY SUGGESTED WAS AS
MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, OUR CONSTITUENTS EXPECT US --
THEY EXPECT ME TO BE ABLE TO, IF THEIR TRASH ISN'T PICKED
UP, TO GET PICKED UP.
THEY EXPECT I CAN CALL A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND FIX THAT FOR
THEM.
IF THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD REFUSES TO WORK WITH ME, I CAN'T DO
MY JOB.
IF I CALL OVER TO AN EXECUTIVE MEMBER OF THE MAYOR'S STAFF
AND THEIR PORTFOLIO IS SUCH THAT I'M DEPENDENT ON THEM TO BE
ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE BASIC EXPECTATIONS OF BEING A MEMBER
OF CITY COUNCIL, I CAN'T DO MY JOB.
IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT A VALID CONCERN AND A VALID REASON
FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I THINK THIS MAYOR HAS
DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TAKING DECISIVE ACTION WHEN STAFF
NEEDED TO BE LET GO.
THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ANY MOMENTS HAVE PASSED.
THAT'S I THINK BEING A POLICE CHIEF.
SHE'S PULLED THE TRIGGER WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE.
REFERENCE THIS ADMINISTRATION, I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A
FAIRLY DECENT JOB FOR THE MOST PART.
I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME ON THAT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT SHE HAS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS DONE THAT.
NOW, ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LONG
TIME, I HAVE ONE BIG CONCERN, AND SOME OF IT AND WHY I ASKED
MR. TINKLER ABOUT EMPLOYMENT LAW BACKGROUND.
THOSE OF YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF MY LABOR AND MANAGEMENT TIES IN
MY PAST LIFE, I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN LABOR, I AM
CONCERNED THAT WHAT WILL END UP HAPPENING, RIGHT NOW,
THERE'S A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
IF WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE AND THE ADMINISTRATION REMOVES THAT
EMPLOYEE, AND THEY DO SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATELY, THERE'S
LEGAL RESOURCE.
THAT EMPLOYEE CAN SUE.
AND THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS VERY CLEAR ON HOW THOSE PEOPLE
ARE REMOVED.
I START -- IT STARTED TO DAWN ON ME WHEN WE COME TO COUNCIL
WITH THAT AND WE MAKE A DETERMINATION, FIVE OF US, AND,
QUITE HONESTLY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS DAIS, SOMETIMES YOU
GUYS SAY STUFF THAT I JUST CRINGE.
I'M LOOKING AT YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
I THINK ABOUT THAT AND I'M THINKING IN A SENSE OF EMPLOYMENT
LAW, IF THIS COUNCIL MADE A DETERMINATION TO TERMINATE
SOMEONE, AND I'LL THROW MYSELF UNDER THE BUS.
I SAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF LAW OR WOULD
BE -- IT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO TRAIN
SEVEN OF US IN HR AND EMPLOYMENT LAW.
I THINK THE LEGAL LIABILITY OF THE CITY WOULD PROBABLY ON
THAT WAY, EVEN THOUGH I SEE THE NEED, I SEE THE PROBLEM AND
EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF.
SOMEBODY SITTING OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, IF I HAD MY WAY,
BOOM, DONE, GONE, BUT I CAN SEE WHERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO
KEEP A CLEANER CHAIN OF COMMAND ON REMOVING THE REMOVAL
PROCESS TO PROTECT THE LIABILITY TO THE CITY.
FOR THAT REASON, I AM PROBABLY GOING TO, WHEN THIS COMES TO
A VOTE, PROBABLY NOT SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
EVEN THOUGH I WAS ALL IN IT.
THE MORE I THOUGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS, I DECIDED AGAINST
IT.
WHAT I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD -- LET'S DEAL WITH THE MAYORAL
TERM LIMIT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA WOULD LIKE THAT CONSIDERED FOR A VOTE.
MAKE THIS A POSITIVE.
THOSE OF YOU IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED
LANGUAGE FOR TERM LIMITS FOR THE MAYOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
3:18:33PM >> NAY.
3:18:34PM >> NAY.
3:18:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS ONLY GOES INTO EFFECT 2031.
3:18:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
LET'S SAY THAT MAYOR BUCKHORN WINS IN 2027.
WOULD THIS PRECLUDE HIM FROM RUNNING IN '31.
3:18:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:18:58PM >>KEN TINKLER:
AS WRITTEN, NO.
3:19:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT IT WOULD IN 2031.
3:19:05PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IT'S TWO TERMS.
3:19:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE'S ALREADY HAD TWO TERMS.
3:19:14PM >>KEN TINKLER:
LET ME BACK THIS UP.
'27 ELECTION.
HE WOULD GET TWO TERMS FROM '27 ON.
3:19:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT IF THE ORDINANCE GOES INTO
EFFECT IN 2027 --
3:19:29PM >>KEN TINKLER:
LET'S GO TO THE LANGUAGE.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN EDIT IF YOU WISH.
SECTION 4.03 IS THE ADDITION.
NO PERSON WHO HAS SERVED AS MAYOR OR ACTED AS MAYOR FOR MORE
THAN A TOTAL OF SIX YEARS SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ELECTED AS
MAYOR.
ANY TIME SERVED AS MAYOR BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THIS SECTION
SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN DETERMINING AN INDIVIDUAL'S TOTAL
TIME SERVED AS MAYOR.
IT STARTS EVERYONE WITH A FRESH SLATE UPON ADOPTION.
3:20:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE -- AGAIN, I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS
RUNNING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS RUNNING.
I WISH YOU ALL WELL, ET CETERA.
THAT WOULD BE SOME SORT OF POLITICAL INTERVENTION.
JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
NUMBER TWO, I ALSO LIKE TO CITE THAT THIS PUTS MORE
RESTRICTIVE TERM LIMITS ON THE EXECUTIVE THAN IT DOES ON
CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO NOTE.
3:20:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY ONE DISTRICT FOR MAYOR.
CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THAT VOTE?
3:20:40PM >>THE CLERK:
VIERA?
3:20:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE CLARIFICATION, LET'S CALL THE
VOTE AGAIN.
WITH THE INFORMATION THAT MR. TINKLER SAID THAT THIS DOES
NOT AFFECT THE 2027 ELECTION.
3:20:53PM >>KEN TINKLER:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, SOMETHING FOR MR.
SHELBY.
I ASSUME YOU NEED AN AUTHORIZATION TO SET THIS FOR PUBLIC
HEARING?
3:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'LL DO THAT WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE
PROCESS.
3:21:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOTION EXACTLY -- WHAT IS THE PURPOSE
OF THE MOTION?
3:21:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, IF THERE'S ANY TINKERING OR
ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE'LL GO ONE AT A TIME.
ONCE IT'S SAID AND DONE, ONCE WE HAVE A FULL PACKAGE, WE'LL
MAKE A MOTION FOR THE NEXT ACTION.
OKAY?
ARE WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE?
3:21:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS COUNCIL'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
POTENTIAL CHANGES --
3:21:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
3:21:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- IN EACH INDIVIDUAL QUESTION.
3:21:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
3:21:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
-- IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHETHER
ULTIMATELY -- TO FIRST READING.
3:21:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
[INAUDIBLE]
3:21:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONE AT A TIME.
3:21:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU WANT TO SEE THE MAYOR QUESTION, THE
TERM LIMIT QUESTION.
3:21:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN YOU GET THE PowerPoint
PRESENTATION UP?
LEAVE IT OFF OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I NEED TO SEE COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
PERFECT.
WE HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.
3:22:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE.
GIVE YOU A SECOND TO LOOK AT IT.
3:22:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TAKE PLACE FOR 2031.
3:22:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE WAY THE LANGUAGE WAS WRITTEN, IT WILL
GO IN EFFECT 2027 FOR SOMEBODY ELECTED IN 2027, THEY WILL BE
UNDER THIS, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO SERVE TWO YEARS.
TWO TERMS.
3:22:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I INQUIRE OF MR. TINKLER?
THE PURPOSE OR THE CHANGE OF THIS IS WITH REGARD TO PARTIAL
TERM LIMITS, IS THAT CORRECT?
IT MAKES IT MORE RESTRICTIVE WITH THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT
SOMEBODY CAN SERVE A PARTIAL TERM LIMIT THAT WOULD COUNT
TOWARD A FULL TERM LIMIT?
3:23:14PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I WOULD SAY IT INCLUDES THE CONCEPT OF
PARTIAL TERMS.
THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE USE OF SIX YEARS AS OPPOSED TO --
3:23:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
EIGHT YEARS.
3:23:24PM >>KEN TINKLER:
CORRECT.
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS IS TO REMOVE THE ABILITY FOR
SOMEONE TO RETURN AS MAYOR AFTER HAVING SERVED TWO TERMS.
3:23:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
EVERYBODY CLEAR WITH THE LANGUAGE?
EVERYBODY CLEAR WITH THE INTENT?
3:23:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
FOR MR. CARLSON.
3:23:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
3:23:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:23:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
3:23:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:23:52PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:23:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:23:54PM >>THE CLERK:
IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL MOTION.
3:24:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS A MOTION.
3:24:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE.
3:24:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHO MADE THE MOTION?
3:24:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DID I GUESS.
I CALLED FOR THE VOTE TO ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE.
THIS IS AN INFORMAL THING TO ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS FINE -- LET ME DO IT MY WAY.
WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE, ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE.
WHEN ALL THE PACKAGE IS DONE, WE'LL DO THE FORMAL MOTION.
3:24:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOUR MOTION IS TO MAKE NO CHANGES.
3:24:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
THERE'S NO MOTION.
THIS WAS JUST A "WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THIS."
3:24:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH ONE JUST TO SAY
OKAY.
3:24:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND THEN THE ACTION ITEM AT THE END.
3:24:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
3:24:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY?
3:24:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO PROPOSE TO
HAVE A CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE TO A PARTICULAR ITEM -- YOU'RE
HANDLING IT DIFFERENTLY THROUGHOUT THE TIME.
I SUGGEST BE CONSISTENT.
3:24:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MAYOR LANGUAGE.
IF IT WAS ON THE SCREEN, I COULD SEE IT.
3:25:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE SCREEN?
3:25:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COPIES.
4.1 AND 4.3.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE FOR 4.01 AND 4.03.
3:25:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND.
THIS WILL GET SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.
3:25:29PM >>THE CLERK:
WE ALREADY DID THE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
3:25:41PM >>KEN TINKLER:
GET THE PowerPoint BACK UP?
3:25:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK ON THIS AGAIN.
EVERYBODY WAS -- THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT PEOPLE
HAD ISSUES WITH.
ONE WAS THE MAYOR VOTE.
THE OTHER WAS REMOVING STAFF.
3:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LANGUAGE
FOR SECTION 2.03.
3:26:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHY DON'T WE GO THROUGH IT ALL?
WE ONLY HAVE TWO ISSUES.
3:26:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BECAUSE THE LAWYERS ARE COMPLAINING.
3:26:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ONLY ONE LAWYER.
3:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ONE LAWYER IS COMPLAINING, SO LET'S JUST DO
IT.
SECTION 2.03, I APPROVE THE LANGUAGE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE LANGUAGE.
3:26:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS GOING TO TAKE AN HOUR.
3:26:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE LONGER WE ARGUE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
3:26:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN I SEE YOU, PLEASE?
3:26:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I MAY HAVE TO LEAVE IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
I HAVE TO SEE MY MOTHER AT THE HOSPITAL.
SHE'S FINE.
I HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME THINGS WITH THE DOCTOR AND I
HAVE A TOWN HALL TONIGHT AT K-BAR RANCH.
I HAVE TO FIT IN SEEING HER AT THE HOSPITAL.
3:27:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOPEFULLY THIS WON'T BE VERY LONG.
I'M KIND OF ACTING CHAIR.
3:27:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DOESN'T COUNCILMAN CARLSON LOOK YOUNGER
WITH THE HAT?
IT LOOKS GOOD.
3:27:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I WEAR A HAT EVERY WEEK?
3:27:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SURE, WHY NOT.
3:27:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS THE LOGO ON THE HAT?
3:27:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A SMOKING ROOSTER.
3:27:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD CHOICE.
3:27:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FROM YBOR CITY.
3:27:47PM >>KEN TINKLER:
STILL TIME TO PUT A CHARTER AMENDMENT ALONG
THOSE LINES.
3:27:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE ARE GOING TO, THE ISSUES THAT WERE
PULLED BY COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
ONCE THAT DISCUSSION IS OVER ON THOSE TWO ISSUES AND WE HAVE
AN AGREEMENT ON THE WHOLE PACKAGE, WE WILL HAVE A MOTION TO
ADOPT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.
WE DEALT WITH THE MAYOR ISSUE ALREADY.
LET'S DEAL WITH THE ISSUE ON REMOVING STAFF.
CAN YOU BRING THAT LANGUAGE UP, PLEASE?
3:28:49PM >>KEN TINKLER:
SECTION 6.03.
3:28:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE?
3:28:54PM >> NO.
3:28:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
OKAY.
AGAIN, THIS IS JUST WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THIS TYPE
OF LANGUAGE OR REJECT THIS TYPE OF LANGUAGE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT OR REJECT?
3:29:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT.
3:29:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION TO REJECT THIS LANGUAGE
FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:29:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SECTION 6.03.
3:29:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
6.03.
3:29:18PM >>THE CLERK:
THIS IS TO REJECT.
CARLSON?
3:29:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
3:29:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:29:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:29:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
3:29:28PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:29:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES TO REJECT.
3:29:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:29:34PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING
NO.
3:29:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:29:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY INTENT ORIGINALLY WAS JUST TO MAKE THIS
ABOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY, NOT ABOUT THE OTHER STAFF, ALTHOUGH
I AGREED TO DOING IT WITH THE OTHER STAFF.
BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY CLEARLY IN THE CHARTER REPORTS TO CITY
COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, BUT THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS HAPPENED.
I CAN GIVE YOU A HUNDRED EXAMPLES OF THAT.
I WONDER IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO STRIP OUT THE OTHER
EMPLOYEES AND JUST PUT CITY ATTORNEY IN THERE AND SEE WHAT
HAPPENS.
3:30:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS MOTION HAS NOW FAILED, SO THAT
LANGUAGE IS OUT.
IN NEW BUSINESS, YOU COULD PASS A MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
3:30:20PM >> NO.
3:30:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD, MR. SHELBY.
3:30:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AMENDMENTS
TO THE LANGUAGE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S CHOICE.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO.
3:30:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE JUST PASSED A MOTION TO REJECT THE
LANGUAGE.
3:30:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AS IT IS STATED.
BUT NOW THERE IS A MOTION TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE.
3:30:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WOULDN'T THAT HAVE FAILED COMPLETELY?
WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN OFF THE TABLE?
3:30:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
3:30:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT'S OKAY WITH COUNCIL, I'M FINE WITH
IT.
3:30:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I PLAN ON VOTING AGAINST IT, I SECOND TO DO
THIS.
3:30:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE
A SUBSTITUTE AMENDMENT TO REMOVE STAFF AND INSERT CITY
ATTORNEY.
I HAVE A MOTION --
3:31:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SEE THE LANGUAGE AGAIN.
3:31:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CTTV, CAN YOU GET THE LANGUAGE UP AGAIN
FOR US?
THANK YOU.
FOR THE ONE WE JUST MOVED THROUGH.
THE LANGUAGE IS TO REMOVE ALL THE STAFF AND INSERT CITY
ATTORNEY.
I HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION?
3:31:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BRIEFLY, IF I MAY.
SAME THING, THIS WOULD LEAVE WAY TOO MUCH DISCRETION AT THE
HANDS OF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER IN ORDER TO POTENTIALLY THREATEN
A CITY ATTORNEY.
WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
SAME RATIONALE.
I SECONDED IT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT SAME ISSUES.
3:31:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:31:42PM >>THE CLERK:
MIRANDA?
3:31:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TO REMOVE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
3:31:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
3:31:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
3:31:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:31:51PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NO.
3:31:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
3:31:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:31:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THE SAME REASONS I STATED EARLIER, NO.
3:31:59PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH MIRANDA, MANISCALCO, YOUNG,
VIERA, AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
3:32:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO THAT WE
HAD.
HEARING NONE, NOW WHAT THE ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, WE'VE
ACCEPTED THE -- ALL THE OTHER LANGUAGE THAT MR. TINKLER HAS
BROUGHT BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
I NEED A MOTION TO SET THE FIRST READINGS OF THE CHARTER
AMENDMENT ORDINANCE FOR NOVEMBER 5, 2026 AT 10:30 A.M. WITH
THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN AGREED TO BY COUNCIL TODAY.
3:32:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL MOTION FOR THAT IF I MAY BUT WITH THE
IDEA, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I SUPPORT.
ONE I DON'T.
I STILL HAVE THAT OBJECTION BUT I'M MOVING IT FORWARD.
3:32:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:32:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU WANT ME TO APPROVE ALL OF THEM JUST
FOR SAFETY?
3:32:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE ORDINANCE WILL COME BACK.
WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING BRING IT BACK FOR ORDINANCE READING
WHICH WILL HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE.
MR. SHELBY.
3:32:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
TO BE CLEAR, AS AGREED WITH A DISCUSSION WITH MR. TINKLER,
THESE ARE ORDINANCES.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE EACH UNTO ITSELF A SEPARATE READING AND
PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THAT UNDERSTOOD BY COUNCIL?
3:33:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CORRECT.
3:33:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO SET THE FIRST READINGS OF
THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ORDINANCES FOR NOVEMBER 5, 2026, AT
10:30 A.M.
3:33:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:33:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:33:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:33:33PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:33:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:33:36PM >> CARLSON?
3:33:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:33:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:33:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:33:41PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:33:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO SET THE SECOND READINGS
AND ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CHARTER AMENDMENT
ORDINANCES FOR NOVEMBER 19, 2026, AT 11 A.M. AS THE FIRST
ITEM AFTER SWEARING IN OF THE DISTRICT 7 COUNCIL MEMBER, OR
SHORTLY THEREAFTER, AND DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH THE
LEGAL NOTICE ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BOTH PUBLIC
HEARINGS.
3:34:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECOND
FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL.
3:34:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE CLERK INFORMED ME THAT THE ONLY ONE
THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE LEGALLY ADVERTISED, MADAM CLERK, IS
THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION PUBLIC HEARING.
3:34:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LET'S JUST APPROVE THIS.
3:34:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:34:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:34:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:34:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
3:34:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
3:34:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
3:34:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:34:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:34:41PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
3:34:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO
PUBLISH THE LEGAL NOTICE FOR THE FIRST READING OF THE
CHARTER AMENDMENT ORDINANCES ON NOVEMBER 5, AND ADVERTISING
--
3:34:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HEARD FIRST AND SECOND.
3:35:04PM >>THE CLERK:
THAT WAS FOR THE SECOND READING.
3:35:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE GOOD.
VERY GOOD.
MR. TINKLER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DID.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THE FIRST READINGS.
3:35:19PM >>KEN TINKLER:
SOUNDS GOOD.
I APPRECIATE IT, COUNCIL.
WE WILL FINALIZE THE DOCUMENTS AND HAND THEM OVER TO MARTY
AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.
3:35:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, YOU RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM
THE ADMINISTRATION OF A DEADLINE FOR THEM TO GET IT TO PUT
IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, IS THAT RIGHT?
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
I BELIEVE IT WAS THE END OF OCTOBER.
3:35:38PM >>KEN TINKLER:
I BELIEVE SO.
WE WILL HAVE IT DONE IMMEDIATELY.
3:35:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF NOT SOONER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:35:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT.
WE'RE MOVING TO THE LAST ITEM WHICH IS THE PUBLIC HEARING
FOR ITEM 84.
WE STILL HAVE ALL OF OUR HEARING PROCEDURES?
3:36:04PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:36:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS THE SAME ONE.
3:36:07PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
SECOND PACKET FOR ITEM 84.
3:36:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MARTY, WE NEED THE SECOND PACKET.
HE'S COMING.
THANK YOU.
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
3:36:33PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
AGENDA ITEM 84 IS REGARDING A PETITION FOR REVIEW REGARDING
ZONING APPLICATION DE 1-26-130 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1905 WEST KATHLEEN STREET.
THE PETITIONER FOR THIS MATTER IS JAMCO TAMPA, INCORPORATED.
THEY FILED AN APPLICATION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ZONING
DEPARTMENT REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THE REQUIREMENT OF CODE
SECTION 27-241 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE.
STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST ON AUGUST 7, 2026.
AND MR. COTTON IS PRESENT TO EXPLAIN WHY STAFF DENIED THE
REQUEST FOR THE WAIVER OF CODE SECTION 27-241.
IN THE PACKET THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED IS A COPY OF
CODE SECTION 27-61, A SAMPLE MOTION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,
THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO
CONDUCT THIS REVIEW HEARING.
AS PROVIDED IN CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J-3, CITY
COUNCIL IS GOING TO CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING, WHICH
MEANS YOU ARE ENTITLED TO ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS
MATTER.
AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS HEARING, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM
THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE
REQUEST FOR DE 1-26-130 OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE
DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE APPROVE
THE REQUEST IN DE 1-26-130.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, CODE SECTION 27-241 IS REGARDING THE
WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
THAT IS THE TITLE OF THAT CODE SECTION.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. COTTON TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW
OF WHY STAFF DENIED THE REQUEST.
3:38:27PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AS MS. PETTIS-MACKLE JUST INDICATED, REVIEW OF DE 1-26-130,
PROPERTY AT 1905 WEST KATHLEEN STREET.
CAMARIA WENT OVER THIS.
BASICALLY, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT WANT TO USE THE ALLEY AND
WANTS TO USE A FRONT DRIVEWAY.
AS INDICATED, CODE SECTION, WEST TAMPA, THE OVERLAY DISTRICT
IS THE OPEN AND USED, IF THE ALLEY IS OPEN AND BEING USED, A
NEW DEVELOPMENT IS SUPPOSED TO USE THAT ALLEYWAY.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL, BLOW THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS THE ALLEY IN QUESTION.
COMES OFF OF FREMONT AND RUNS DOWN THE BLOCK.
THESE TWO HOMES, WHICH I'LL SHOW IN ANOTHER PICTURE IN A
MOMENT, UTILIZE THE ALLEYWAY.
BOTH CORNER LOTS.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
AGAIN, THEY ARE SHOWING A DRIVEWAY OFF THE FRONT.
NO ACCESS OFF THE ALLEYWAY.
STAFF IN OUR REVIEW DENIED THE REQUEST.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE ELEVATIONS IT IS A FRONT-LOADED GARAGE.
THIS IS, AGAIN, ANOTHER AERIAL.
THESE TWO LOTS, WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED BELOW DO USE THE
ALLEYWAY.
IT IS A PAVED ALLEY.
THIS IS THE LOT IN QUESTION FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ALLEY ACCESS OFF OF NORTH FREMONT.
IT IS ACTUALLY A PAVED ACCESS.
THE ALLEY IS PAVED.
THERE IS A DRIVE APRON.
AND THEN OFF OF ALBANY, THE SAME THING, THE ALLEY IS PAVED
AND AN APRON THAT GOES INTO THE ALLEYWAY ITSELF.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU MUCH.
3:40:44PM >> MY NAME IS ANDRES, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PETITIONER.
NICE TO MEET YOU, COUNCIL.
YES, THERE IS A PAVED ROAD LEADING TO THE ALLEY ACCESS.
I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I TOOK OF
THE ALLEY.
START WITH THE ALLEY ACCESS HERE.
THIS IS THE ENTRANCE.
AS YOU CAN SEE OVER HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THERE IS
BROKEN GRAVEL.
A PICTURE HERE AT NIGHTTIME ENTERING THE ALLEY.
THE ONLY LIT IS THE ENTRANCE.
IT'S PURE BLACK, PURE DARK ONCE YOU GET INSIDE OF IT.
THIS IS ALLEY ACCESS.
JUST BEFORE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THAT IS 1903 WEST KATHLEEN ON THE LEFT, 1904 WEST AILEEN.
THE PROPERTY HERE AT ISSUE IS 1905 WEST KATHLEEN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S OVERGROWN.
NOT MAINTAINED AT ALL.
IN THE DENIAL FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, IT'S A TEN-FOOT
ALLEY.
WHAT ISN'T MENTIONED AT ALL IN THE DENIAL IS STRUCTURES THAT
ARE THERE THAT CAN'T BE MOVED.
IT'S MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE NONE OF THOSE.
THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.
AS I PHOTOGRAPHED, JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY,
THERE ARE TWO UTILITY POLES.
THAT ARE WITHIN THE ALLEY.
THE PROPERTY HERE IS THE NEIGHBORING TO 1905.
1905 IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
I MEASURED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POLE, NINE FEET 11
INCHES.
PROPERTY OWNER DRIVES A FORD RAPTOR.
EIGHT FEET WIDE.
LESS THAN A FOOT ON EACH SIDE WHEN DRIVING AND ESPECIALLY
WHEN NOT A MAINTAINED ALLEY.
TALKING ABOUT CAR DAMAGE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO USE IN THE
MIDDLE PART OF THIS ALLEY.
ADDITIONALLY, MAKES EXTREMELY DIFFICULT MANEUVERING INTO A
PROPERTY.
ONE OF THE MENTIONED I WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT THE DENIAL, IT
MENTIONS SECTION 27-283.12A.
IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED WHEN AN ALLEY IS USED.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS BEING INVOLVED, DO AN
EVALUATION.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS NO LONGER A
DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO -- WOULD HAVE
THAT NEW AUTHORITY.
MAYBE THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
BUT NO ONE WAS EVER SENT OUT TO MAKE SURE THIS ALLEY COULD
BE ACCESSED STILL FROM THE HOUSES WITHIN THE ALLEY.
NO ONE WAS SENT OUT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY STRUCTURES THAT
WERE IN THE WAY.
SO THAT EVALUATION WAS NEVER DONE.
I THINK IF THAT EVALUATION WAS DONE, THIS APPLICATION
PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED FROM THE TIGHTNESS, TWO
POLES AND THE ACCESS THAT CAN'T BE MOVED, THE MANEUVERING TO
PUT A GARAGE IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
THE LAST COMPONENT, WHAT THE ZONING AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL
HAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IS SAFETY.
IT'S NOT A LIT ALLEY.
IT HAS DEBRIS.
IT HAS OVER-BRANCHES.
THE OTHER HOMES ON THE ALLEY DO NOT USE THE ALLEY.
MOST OF THEM ARE BLOCKED, FENCED, PRIVACY.
ANYBODY COMING IN THE ALLEY, THAT'S DANGEROUS.
400 FEET TO RUN STRAIGHT THROUGH THEM OR 120 FEET TO RUN
BACK.
THAT'S ABOUT IT.
OR HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A GOOD -- JUMP AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY ACCESS YOU HAVE.
JUST BEYOND THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S EXTREMELY
OVERGROWN.
THE ONLY REAL ACCESS THAT THIS HOMEOWNER HAS WOULD BE TO
MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN OFF OF FREMONT AND GET TO THEIR
PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE THIRD PROPERTY DOWN.
THERE'S NOT A CHANCE THAT THEY COULD GO DOWN NORTH ALBANY,
MAKE A RIGHT, DOWN ROUGHLY 350 TO 400 FEET WITHOUT GETTING
CAR DAMAGE.
I FIND THAT TO BE A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A NIGHTTIME PHOTO THAT I TOOK WITH
FLASH.
AGAIN ANOTHER POLE, NOT THE SAME POLE I TOOK BEFORE, IN THE
ALLEY WITH OVERGROWN.
JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE DARKNESS OF THIS ALLEY.
YOU CAN'T SEE AHEAD OF YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE CAR LIFE,
BUT SOME PEOPLE WALK.
THEY WANT TO GO TO A LOCAL PLACE, THEY ARE NOT WALKING IN
THE BACK.
THE CITY DOESN'T USE THE ALLEY FOR THE DUMP.
EVERYBODY USES THE FRONT.
THE LOCAL DUMPSTERS PICK UP TRASH FROM THE FRONT OF THE
HOUSE.
SAFETY COMPONENT, I USE FRONT ALLEY ACCESS -- SORRY, FRONT
LOADING ACCESS FROM KATHLEEN IS PROBABLY THE SAFEST OPTION.
IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN INTERACTIONS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE MORE PEDESTRIAN INTERACTIONS IN THE ALLEY THAN WE DO IN
KATHLEEN.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO TIGHT.
IF A CAR IS COMING DOWN ONE WAY AND NOT THE OTHER, THEY ARE
STUCK.
WHO WILL MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.
IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THESE HOUSES ON KATHLEEN USE, THEY DON'T HAVE MAYBE
PERHAPS FRONT LOADING GARAGES BUT THEY ALL PARK IN FRONT OR
THEY USE A CARPORT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE THE FABRIC OR THE CHARACTER OF
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.
3:46:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO YOU PLAN ON PUTTING A LIGHT IF YOU HAVE TO
PUT A GARAGE?
3:46:23PM >> OF COURSE, THERE COULD BE A LIGHT, BUT THEN --
3:46:35PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:46:43PM >> MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING DOES REVIEW ALL DESIGN
EXCEPTIONS.
THEY DO LOOK AT ALL THE ALLEYS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN TO ASK
FOR THE WAIVER, NOT TO HAVE TO USE THE ALLEYWAY.
3:46:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND WEEDS AND GROWTH, HOW DOES STAFF DEAL
WITH THAT?
3:46:58PM >>ERIC COTTON:
WEEDS AND GROWTH, I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD
MS. SANCHEZ HERE WHEN SHE WAS SPOKEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
ALLEYS CAN BE CLEARED.
IF IT'S A USED ALLEY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S PAVED.
IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO
MAINTAIN THE ALLEYWAY.
THEORETICALLY, TREES COULD BE TRIMMED, BUSHES GROWING IN THE
ALLEY COULD BE REMOVED.
3:47:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
DO YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL FROM THAT PART?
3:47:29PM >> I WOULD JUST SAY FROM THE DENIAL, WASN'T EVER MENTIONED
THAT MOBILITY WENT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY ACTUALLY WENT AND VIEWED THE PROPERTY
THEMSELVES.
IN TERMS OF DEBRIS AND BUSHES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE
STREET HAVING TO BE PUT ON NOTICE TO CONDUCT THAT.
3:47:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DIDN'T SAY ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE REPORTER FROM THE TAMPA BAY
TIMES WILL HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS, HEARING NO
PUBLIC COMMENT, MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
3:48:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
DENIAL OF DE 1-26-130 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1905 WEST
KATHLEEN STREET BECAUSE THE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE
COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENTS
OF SECTION 27-241 SUBSECTION E, SUBSECTION 2, SUBSECTION 5,
SUBSECTION I OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE THAT IF AN EXISTING
LOT IS ADJACENT TO AN OPEN AND USED PUBLIC ALLEY VEHICULAR
ACCESS TO THE SITE SHALL BE PROVIDED FROM THE ALLEY AS THE
PRIMARY VEHICULAR ACCESS POINT PROVIDED IT MEETS MINIMUM
STANDARDS REFERENCED IN SECTION 27-283-12 OFF-STREET PARKING
SPACE STANDARDS BASED ON THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION
27-60 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
THE TESTIMONY FROM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR THAT MOBILITY
DID, IN FACT, GO OUT AND CLEAR THIS AND SAY THAT IT WAS AN
ACCEPTABLE ALLEY USE.
AND THAT IT FOLLOWS THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
3:49:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
IS THERE A SECOND?
I'LL SECOND IT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO UPHOLD THE ZONING
ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
3:49:32PM >>THE CLERK:
DID WE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
3:49:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, WE DID.
3:49:36PM >>THE CLERK:
MANISCALCO?
3:49:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
3:49:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
3:49:41PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
YES.
3:49:44PM >> VIERA IS ABSENT.
CARLSON IS ABSENT.
3:49:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
3:49:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
3:49:49PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO,
VIERA ABSENT AT VOTE AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT.
3:49:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT CONCLUDES OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED
PROGRAM.
ONE SECOND.
3:50:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I GUESS WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG?
3:50:07PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
TWO THINGS.
FIRST, I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR PRESENTATION TO BE MADE
BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SULPHUR SPRINGS MUSEUM AND
HERITAGE CENTER ON JANUARY 7, 2027.
3:50:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG, A SECOND FROM
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
AYE.
3:50:30PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
SECOND, AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE
CHARTER, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS THE PROGRESS OF
CITY PROJECTS AND HAVING SOME KIND OF TRACKER.
SO, ULTIMATELY WE DECIDED IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE CHARTER.
IT WOULD BE IN ORDINANCE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY LEGAL TO HAVE -- BEEN WORKING
WITH CITY LEGAL TO GET A DRAFT, A RESOLUTION.
WE NEVER ACTUALLY MADE AN ACTUAL MOTION.
THEY NEED A MOTION TO HAVE SOME DEFINITIVE ACTION AS TO WHAT
WE WANT TO HAPPEN.
I KIND OF DRAFTED SOMETHING.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES, THEN WE CAN MOVE TO DO THAT.
THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT I DO HAVE, FOR THE REPORT, ARE WE
THINKING EACH YEAR OR QUARTERLY REPORT?
AND THEN ALSO FOR THE AMOUNT.
WHAT WAS ADDED FROM THE CHARTER COMMISSION, THE AMOUNT THEY
PUT WAS HUNDRED THOUSAND.
DO WE WANT TO KEEP HUNDRED THOUSAND OR INCREASE THAT NUMBER,
BUT WE NEED A NUMBER.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE?
3:51:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AT LEAST A MILLION.
HUNDRED THOUSAND WE WOULD BE HERE ALL DAY.
I THINK A MILLION DOLLARS IS MORE APPROPRIATE.
3:51:58PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
DO WE WANT STAFF TO COME BACK IN DECEMBER OR
JANUARY?
3:52:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT EVERY SIX MONTHS?
BIANNUALLY.
3:52:11PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
BIANNUALLY.
WHEN WOULD WE LIKE THEM TO COME BACK WITH THE DRAFT
RESOLUTION TO DISCUSS, DECEMBER OR JANUARY?
FIRST REGULAR MEETING --
3:52:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW DOES THAT LOOK?
3:52:23PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I DON'T THINK IT'S FULL.
3:52:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THIS WOULD BE A STAFF REPORT UNFINISHED
BUSINESS OR CONSENT AGENDA?
3:52:38PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
3:52:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AN ORDINANCE?
NOT A RESOLUTION.
3:52:44PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
NOT A RESOLUTION.
AN ORDINANCE.
OUR FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN JANUARY.
JANUARY 7.
I MOVE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK FOR REGULAR
CITY COUNCIL MEETING JANUARY 7 WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT
ADDRESSES A BIANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT IDENTIFYING THE CURRENT
STATUS, ANY CURRENT DELAYS OR ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN,
ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE FOR EACH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT FUNDED IN THE CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
BUDGET AND ALL PREVIOUSLY FUNDED PROJECTS VALUED IN EXCESS
OF A MILLION DOLLARS INCLUDING THOSE FUNDED IN WHOLE OR IN
PART BY GRANTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
3:53:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:53:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS PLANNING TO BE A
DASHBOARD?
OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL COME AND PRESENT?
IF THEY COME AND PRESENT, EVEN THINGS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO TAKE HOURS BECAUSE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF
PROJECTS.
3:54:01PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU ALL.
3:54:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK A DASHBOARD THAT HAS TO BE UPDATED
EVERY SIX MONTHS MIGHT BE A BETTER USE.
BECAUSE IF THE CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING, THEY'LL HAVE A PLACE
TO GO EVERY SIX MONTHS.
IT WILL BE UP FOR SIX MONTHS.
IT WILL BE A PLACE THEY CAN GO CONSTANTLY, BUT MAYBE STAFF
COMES TO US AND SAYS, HEY, WE'VE UPDATED IT, HERE ARE FIVE
IMPORTANT ONES WE THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT, BUT IF YOU
WANT TO KNOW ABOUT MORE, GO TO THE DASHBOARD?
3:54:39PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
THIS IS MORE SO, WE WANT ACCOUNTABILITY, KNOW WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITH THE PROJECTS.
WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT?
IF IT IS A DASHBOARD --
3:54:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THERE WAS A TIME YOU HAD REGULAR REPORTS AND I THINK THEY
REFERRED TO IT AS THE BIG 6.
3:54:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S THE GREAT 8.
THEY STILL DO THEM.
3:55:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE CHARTER
COMMISSION?
3:55:09PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THE INTENT WAS THAT THERE WERE OTHER PROJECTS.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WITH CHAIR
CLENDENIN WITH HIS WANTING TO PAVE SOME OF THE ROADS.
WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THAT?
WE HAD ALLOCATED MONEY TO PAVE THE ROADS, BUT IT WAS TAKING
SOME TIME FOR IT TO HAPPEN.
WHAT WAS THE DELAY?
WHY WAS THAT HAPPENING?
THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT ON THAT GREAT 8
BUT BIG PROJECTS OR GRANT-FUNDED PROJECTS WITHIN OUR
DISTRICT, AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHETHER IT
IS A PARK OR A BOARDWALK.
WE HAVE THE SULPHUR SPRINGS BOARDWALK WE JUST ALLOCATED 1.5
MILLION TO.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IF IT BECOMES TOO FAR OUT, WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH THAT.
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?
THIS IS SOME KIND OF MECHANISM TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S
NOT IN THE GREAT 8 OR NOT ONE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, IT'S
STILL A PROJECT THAT HAS MONEY ALLOCATED TO IT AND WE WANT
TO GET IT DONE.
3:56:08PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
HAGAR KOPESKY, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
I KNOW RESPECTFULLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO RESPOND TO
IN RELATION TO WHAT THE COMMISSION BROUGHT FORWARD.
I WOULD COUNTER THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW THAT'S
WHY THEY ARE DOING IT.
I LIKE YOU BROUGHT IT OUT.
I DO FEEL IT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE TIME TO FLESH OUT EVEN
AMONGST THIS GROUP AND ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.
ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU IDENTIFIED SOME THINGS FOR THE ORDINANCE
THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FREQUENCY AND MATERIALITY, I WILL TELL
YOU PRELIMINARILY I THINK THE MILLION IS ACTUALLY TOO LOW.
I JUST WANT TO BE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND EFFECTIVE IN WHAT THEY
ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.
I FEEL LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A BIT RUSHED TO BE SO SPECIFIC.
WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO POSSIBLY FLESHING OUT SOME OF THIS?
IT COULD BE BRIEFINGS BETWEEN US INDIVIDUALLY, IN ORDER TO
MAKE SURE WE NAIL WHETHER IT IS A DASHBOARD -- YEAH, I THINK
WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK TO DO TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE.
3:57:12PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
THAT WORKS FOR ME.
THIS CAME OUT OF THE CHARTER CONVERSATION.
COME BACK WITH THIS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
3:57:21PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD SUGGESTION.
FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE DETAILS.
3:57:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WHAT I'M HEARING IS NOT A MOTION TODAY,
BUT GO BACK WITH STAFF, WORK WITH STAFF AND HAGAR TO COME
BACK FOR THE MOTION.
3:57:32PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I'LL WORK WITH HAGAR AND ALSO LEGAL TO COME
BACK WITH SOMETHING.
DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT?
3:57:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
I SPOKE WITH MR. STEADY THIS MORNING.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
TO WORK WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A MOTION OF
COUNCIL, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER.
3:57:50PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
I MAKE A MOTION TO WORK WITH OUR BUDGET
ANALYST AND CITY STAFF TO WORK ON AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE
A PROGRESS REPORT FOR CITY PROJECTS.
YES, ACCOUNTABILITY ORDINANCE.
3:58:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP THE JANUARY 7 DATE?
3:58:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
3:58:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU NEED A TICKLER
TO AT LEAST RECOGNIZE --
3:58:20PM >>NAYA YOUNG:
WE'LL BE WORKING TOGETHER.
3:58:22PM >>HAGAR KOPESKY:
I WOULD SAY HOLDING THAT DATE STILL SEEMS
SUFFICIENT FROM A TIME SPAN, IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND A HALF
MONTHS, WE SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
3:58:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A MOTION.
CAN I GET A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
3:58:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
3:58:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REAL QUICK, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE
TAMPA THEATRE.
TODAY, HUNDRED YEARS AGO IT OPENED.
THEY ARE CELEBRATING TONIGHT.
I'M SURE SOME OF US WILL BE THERE.
THAT'S IT.
3:58:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:58:55PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IS CHARLIE MIRANDA GONE?
3:58:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE DID.
3:59:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DID HAVE SOME COMMENDATION MOTIONS.
I'LL DO THEM LATER.
I WANTED TO FEEL COUNCIL OUT ON THIS AND I WANTED CHARLIE TO
BE HERE FOR THIS.
I LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I'M OUT ON NOVEMBER 2 AT MIDNIGHT.
FOR ME, GETTING MY PART OF THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT
IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
I'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.
WORKED WITH THE TEAM ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND TALK
TO THE COMMUNITY ON LOVE DIFFERENT THINGS.
HOW DOES THE COUNCIL FEEL ON A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO
ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT BEFORE NOVEMBER 2
AT MIDNIGHT?
AGAIN, I SAY THAT, I WANT CHARLIE HERE FOR THAT.
I REGRET THAT.
I WANT YOUR ALL'S FEELINGS ON THAT.
3:59:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IS THERE REALLY A REASON THAT YOU DON'T THINK
WE WOULD CARRY ON YOUR GOALS?
3:59:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I ONLY SAY THAT -- VERY GOOD QUESTION,
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF
THOSE -- I DO TRUST YOU ALL ON THAT HUNDRED PERCENT.
I WOULD RATHER BE HERE BECAUSE I KNOW THE SEAT WILL BE OPEN
FOR A FEW WEEKS.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN, RIGHT?
I SAY THAT TO POLL YOU GUYS.
4:00:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE WEEK OF THE 29th.
4:00:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LIKE THE ONLY WEEK WE HAVE.
4:00:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOVEMBER 2.
IS THAT SOMETHING OPEN?
4:00:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I CAN ONLY DO NOVEMBER 2 IF IT IS IN THE
AFTERNOON -- COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS NOT AVAILABLE.
4:00:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WISH CHARLIE WAS THERE FOR THIS.
4:00:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SUNDAY MORNING, 8:30?
4:00:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOVEMBER 2, I'M GOOD.
4:00:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M NOT HERE ON NOVEMBER 2.
4:00:49PM >>THE CLERK:
[INAUDIBLE]
4:00:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AND SOMETHING AT NIGHT.
4:00:54PM >>THE CLERK:
YES, ARC AT 5:30.
4:01:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I'M NOT AVAILABLE.
4:01:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IN THE MORNING?
4:01:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YEAH.
4:01:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AT MIDNIGHT I RESIGN.
NOVEMBER 2, I'M AVAILABLE, CAN WE DO IT OUT OF THIS ROOM?
DO WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THIS ROOM?
4:01:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AGAIN, I'M NOT AVAILABLE NOVEMBER 2.
4:01:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AT ALL.
4:01:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
29th, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IS IT
SOMETHING YOU WANT TO BE HERE FOR?
4:01:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHY WOULDN'T I?
WE GENERALLY KEEP THAT WEEK RESERVED.
LIKE I SAID, I HAVE DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS WITH MY MOTHER.
I CAN'T -- I'M HER ONLY PERSON.
4:01:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THE 29th IS THE ONLY DAY WE COULD DO
IT, THOUGH --
I SAY GO FOR THE 29th.
I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT'S THE ONLY DAY.
4:02:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, AGAIN, YOU ARE A
PROFESSIONAL, I LIKE TO GIVE YOU COURTESY AND RESPECT.
WOULD THE 29th --
4:02:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I'M WITH MY MOM.
SHE HAS DOCTOR APPOINTMENTS.
JUST LIKE YOU HAVE TO GO WITH YOUR MOM WITH AN ACCIDENT.
I HAD MY MOM WITH AN ACCIDENT.
SHE HAS SOME MRIs GETTING DONE.
I PROMISED I WOULD BE THERE FOR THAT.
4:02:32PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO THERE'S ALSO, GOSH, THERE IS THE 21st,
THE 20th, THE 19th.
4:02:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I CAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
THERE IS A NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
THREE DAYS MINIMUM.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IN ORDER TO GET THAT TO COUNCIL,
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S
GOING TO TAKE FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS?
IS THE AGREEMENT COMPLETE, READY TO BE UPLOADED FOR A NEXT
WEEK MEETING?
4:03:14PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH --
4:03:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKE A MOTION FOR THE 29th AND SEE WHERE
IT GOES.
4:03:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
I'M BEING HONEST.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE 23rd.
OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE.
4:03:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WON'T BE HERE EITHER.
4:03:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT THE 21st?
4:03:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
4:03:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HOW ABOUT THE 20th?
4:03:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN DO THE 20th.
4:03:47PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF THERE IS A CHALLENGE ON PROCEDURAL ISSUES
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
4:03:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IN THE MORNING.
4:03:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP ON WHAT DATE?
4:04:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
22nd.
TWO DAYS LATER.
COUNCIL NEEDS EVERYTHING BY WHEN IN OnBase.
4:04:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TOMORROW.
4:04:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE READY.
4:04:18PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THE 22nd, WE HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT DAY.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT THAT DAY?
4:04:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HER AND I ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
4:04:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT DOES THE LAWYER HAVE TO SAY?
4:04:34PM >> I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID AS I WAS IN THE ELEVATOR.
REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE AGREEMENT IS ALMOST FINALIZED.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE RAYS TO COME BACK WITH THEIR FINAL
PROPOSAL.
4:04:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE CAN'T EVEN DO IT.
4:04:51PM >> LAST I HEARD YOU SAY IS 19th OR 20th.
I DON'T THINK FOR PUBLIC NOTICE SERVICES WE COULD HAVE IT TO
YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW IN TIME FOR THAT.
4:05:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE IS THE DEAL.
YOU ALL GOT TO WORK IT OUT, EITHER THE 29th OR THE 2nd.
ONE COUNCIL MEMBER OUT THE 29th OR ONE ON THE 2nd.
WE NEED TO REACH A COMPROMISE ON THAT.
THAT WILL GIVE US -- ONE OF THE TWO DAYS WILL GIVE US MORE
THAN ENOUGH TIME.
4:05:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAKE A MOTION FOR THE 29th.
IF IT DIES, WE'LL GO TO THE SECOND ONE.
SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE 29th?
I MAKE A MOTION FOR SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON OCTOBER 29.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
OPPOSED?
4:05:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
4:05:40PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
CARLSON AND MIRANDA ABSENT.
4:05:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
9:01 A.M.
9:00 IN THE MORNING, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602.
4:05:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MS. JOHNS, DOES THAT GIVE THE STAFF AND
LEGAL ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS --
4:06:04PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
WE CAN HAVE THE AGREEMENT TO COUNCIL AND
UPLOADED FOR THE PUBLIC BY THE 22nd.
4:06:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS WHAT I'LL DO, BY THE WAY, IF THERE ARE
OTHER DATES THAT BECOME AVAILABLE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
HOW SHALL I SAY THIS?
I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN, BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS NOT HERE.
YOU HAVE A CONFLICT, IF OTHER THINGS CAN BE AMENDED, LET'S
PLEASE DO THAT.
THIS IS VERY IMPERFECT.
PUT IT THAT WAY.
4:06:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE DONE WITH THAT.
ANY FURTHER NEW BUSINESS?
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN YOUNG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, OUR BEST TO YOUR MOM.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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