📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

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SO NOW WE HAVE MAJOR CUNNINGHAM THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THE
CENTER OF --
>>> THE REQUEST, YES, SIR.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THEN FILLING THE NECESSARY NEEDS OF
COVERAGE IN THOSE AREAS.
>>> YES.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALSO
TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THE TIME LAPSE.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE SOMETHING CALLED RIGHT NOW AND HAVE
TWO MINUTES.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT.
UNLESS THIS IS A THING OF GREAT CATASTROPHE THAT YOU HAVE TO
EMPLOY ALL YOUR PERSONNEL TO ONE AREA.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK YOU HAVE TO PUT IN SOMEWHERE
THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT MAJOR CUNNINGHAM IS GOING TO NEED TO
MAKE THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS.
IF IT'S AN HOUR, TWO HOURS, A DAY, TWO DAYS, THAT KIND OF STUFF,
SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS AS TO WHAT THE GUIDELINES MAY BE.
>>> THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR HAVING A CENTRALLY LOCATED AREA, FOR
THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, AND ARE
REQUESTING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THEY CAN TAKE THEIR REQUESTS OF THAT AREA, AND HE CAN MAKE THE
DETERMINATION AS TO THEIR NEEDS, WHAT THEY NEED AS FAR AS
MANPOWER IS CONCERNED, AND THEN TAKE IT FROM THERE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO ASK SOMEONE IF I MAY SO I MAY
CLARIFY THESE ITEMS FROM CRIME WATCH OR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
COME UP AND WORK THESE THINGS OUT RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AND SOLVED?
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT TODAY.
I WILL HAVE MR. BUCKHORN AND MRS. SAUL-SENA, IN THAT ORDER.
MRS. FERLITA AFTER THAT.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: MAJOR CUNNINGHAM, I CAN ASSUME BY YOUR
ENTHUSIASM THAT THE ANSWER IS YES?
>>> YES.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: THANK YOU.
MAJOR CUNNINGHAM, COMMANDER, ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EVERY CITIZEN IN THE CITY
OF TAMPA IN EVERY WAY THAT WE CAN.
THIS GROUP IS -- WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
ALL WE ASK IS THAT WE HAVE NOTICE OF THESE EVENTS.
AND MY GROUP WILL RECEIVE THE REQUESTS.
WE WILL COORDINATE THOSE ITEMS THAT WE CAN HANDLE IN MY BUREAU.
THOSE THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM THE PATROL GROUP,
NARCOTICS, FIRE HOUSE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE WILL BE THE
COORDINATION POINT FOR THAT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE
TIME AND RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO GO OUT AND PUT THE PEOPLE OUT
THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY TYPE OF APPROPRIATE DEMONSTRATION IS
SAFE.
WE DO ADVOCATE A NONCONFRONTATIONAL MANNER IN DOING THINGS.
BUT THESE THINGS ARE VERY HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY DO DRIVE AWAY A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. SAUL-SENA.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: IN HONOR OF THE CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE
POLICE FORCE, INSTEAD OF CALLING THEM MAN HOURS, WHY DON'T YOU
CALL THEM WORK HOURS?
IT'S MORE DESCRIPTIVE AND MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE PEOPLE.
>>> OLD HABIT, 20 YEARS.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: WELL, YOU KNOW, TIMES ARE CHANGING.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW I MAKE THAT REQUEST OF ALL THE CITY
DEPARTMENTS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: INSTEAD OF CALLING IT MANHOLE, JUST CALL IT
WHATEVER YOU WANT.
DON'T PUT MAN ON THAT HOLE.
SO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GENDER.
ONLY A JOKE.
I WANT TO GET THE AUDIENCE -- I WAS LOSING THE AUDIENCE.
I SAW THAT RIGHT AWAY.
MRS. DURST.
DURST: I JUST WANT TO SAY I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE WITH
YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THIS TYPE OF THING, I UNDERSTAND AND
APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR ADVANCED SCHEDULING.
AND BECAUSE IN THE PAST, IN THESE ACTIVITIES, WE HAVE ALWAYS
COORDINATED WITH THE CORRESPONDING PORTION OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, WHETHER IT BE A DISTRICT OR FIRE HOUSE OR WHATEVER.
THESE CRIME WATCHES HAVE BEEN DONE IN THAT MANNER IN THE PAST.
WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A SCHEDULED ACTIVITY, A CALENDAR FOR THE YEAR
THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS FAR
AS PROVIDING NOTICE.
IF THAT WILL MEET THE NEED OF PROVIDING ADEQUATE ADVANCED
NOTICE, OR IF WE NEED TO PERHAPS UPDATE THAN ON A MONTHLY BASIS
AS TO THE SCHEDULED ACTIVITY OR WHAT.
>>> MAJOR: ANY NOTICE WE GET WILL BE SUFFICIENT AS LONG AS WE
HAVE A CONTACT PERSON.
IF YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE YOU ARE GOING TO DO ONE NEXT JULY, THE
SOONER YOU TELL US THAT, THAT WILL BE GREAT.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON OUR CALENDAR-W THE CONTACT
PERSON.
THEN WE WILL FOLLOW UP WHEN WE GET THE NOTICE.
THEN WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON A PERIODIC BASIS TO MAKE SURE WE JUST
DIDN'T SAY, OKAY, YES, WE WILL SUPPLY THE SERVICES, AND AS TIME
ROLLS ON WE HAVE FORGOTTEN OR ANYTHING.
BUT WE WILL CONTINUALLY TOUCH BASE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
SITUATIONS CHANGE, THAT WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION ON BOARD TO
ALL OF OUR COMPONENTS SO THAT WHATEVER NEEDS ARE OUT THERE.
DURST: DON'T PUT JULIET BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT SATURDAY
NIGHT.
>>> SATURDAY NIGHT?
LET ME KNOW WHO.
>>ROSE FERLITA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
CHIEF, I THINK FROM THE PART THAT I PLAYED IN THIS, LOTS OF
TIMES, LACK OF COMMUNICATION BREEDS A LOT OF ANIMOSITY.
WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
ALONG WITH BETTY SCHAFER'S GROUP, THAT I THINK WE ARE READY FOR
BEAR, BECAUSE THEY REALLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CRITERIA
WAS, WHERE THEY COULD ANTICIPATE SOME SUPPORT AND SOME PRESENCE
FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I WAS AT ONE OF THOSE MARCHES WITH THEM.
THEY ALTERED THE TIME THEY WERE GOING TO MARCH AND DEMONSTRATE
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED SOME PRESENCE FROM THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
WHATEVER THE BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION WAS, THAT'S PAST.
THAT'S HISTORY.
AND I THINK WE ARE CLEARLY DEFINING THAT -- AND IT'S VERY
OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE COMMITTED.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MADE SOME GREAT STRIDES, AND THEY ARE
SIMPLY ASKING THAT WE CONTINUE THAT COMMITMENT IN ORDER TO HELP
THEM.
AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO THAT AS WELL.
IN TERMS OF WHAT MAJOR CUNNINGHAM IS GOING TO DO, I JUST WANT TO
UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BECAUSE I'M SO ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN
SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
I DON'T WANT THAT BREAK DOWN TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
PRIMARILY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CROSS BETTY SCHAFER.
BECAUSE I VALUE MY LIFE.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A POINT PERSON -- AND MAJOR, IS THIS MY
UNDERSTANDING? -- THAT THE REQUEST FOR ANY KIND OF POLICE
PARTICIPATION WILL GO TO PERHAPS MARILYN DURST AS THE PRESIDENT
OF THE ASSOCIATION?
AND SHE WILL CONTACT YOUR UNIT?
>>> MAJOR: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THAT WAY.
ANY NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH, A CIVIC ASSOCIATION, ANY CITIZEN THAT
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PARTICIPATION, CONTACT
THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS BUREAU, CRIME PREVENTION DIVISION, MY
OFFICE.
ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE.
AND THEY WILL START THE COORDINATION PROCESS WITH ALL THE OTHER
RESOURCES.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER STEPS.
>>ROSE FERLITA: BUT IN ORDER TO KEEP IT AS WELL ORGANIZED AS WE
CAN MIGHT I MAKE THIS AS A SUGGESTION?
AND LET'S ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO THROUGH MARILYN AS THEIR
PRESIDENT, AND SHE WILL BE THEIR POINT PERSON.
OR THEY CAN GO THERE IF THEY WANT TO.
AND FOR THIS COUNSELING, BECAUSE WE ARE VERY AGGRESSIVELY
WANTING TO HELP PLACES LIKE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER AS A POINT PERSON, WHERE
IF MARILYN KNOWS THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, ON THE
SCHEDULE, THAT SHE'S NOTIFYING YOU ABOUT, SHE CAN TELL ME, AND I
WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY TIME SHE DOES THAT, THEN I WILL NOTIFY
ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND EACH CAN CHOOSE TO BE INVOLVED TO
THE DEGREE THAT THEY WANT, AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE GOT A LINK.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS IT CAN CONTACT HER.
THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I'M PART OF THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD CAN CONTACT ME IF THERE'S A PROBLEM.
AND I THINK THE CIRCLE GOES FULL GAMUT.
>>> ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LIMIT IT IF SOMEONE IS NOT INVOLVED IN
THOSE GROUPS WE CAN'T GO DIRECTLY.
BUT THAT IS, IT WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE SIMPLE
POINT OF COORDINATION.
>>ROSE FERLITA: MRS. DURST-S THAT OKAY WITH YOU?
THEN YOU AND I CAN COMMUNICATE.
PEOPLE CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AS A SECONDARY ROUTE.
BUT AT LEAST WEIGH KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANNELS.
IF MRS. SCHAFER HAS A PROBLEM, SHE CAN TELL ME.
AND THEN I THINK WE HAVE SOME CONTINUITY.
AND THEN EVERYBODY'S FEELINGS DON'T GET IN THE WAY OF WHAT WE
WANT TO DO.
WE WANT SOME PROGRESS.
WE WANT SOME ALLEVIATION OF THAT.
AND THE NEXT TIME I'M OUT THERE WITH THEM AT 1:00 I AM GOING TO
FEEL A LOT BETTER IF YOU GUYS ARE WITH US.
APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
BOTH OF YOU.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALTHOUGH THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION, THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS PRESENT, THE ONE I SAW ANYWAY, FURTHER
NORTH OF 5606 NEBRASKA AVENUE.
THERE WAS TWO THERE.
A LIEUTENANT AND CORPORAL.
AND THEY STAYED TILL 1:30 IN THE MORNING.
SO WHETHER THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION OR NOT, THERE WAS COVERAGE
TO SOME EXTENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
>>ROSE FERLITA: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK WE WERE THERE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THERE WAS POLICE PRESENCE THERE.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE OFFICERS WERE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT
SIMULTANEOUSLY SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WAS WALKING AND THEY
ASSURED ME THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM.
THERE WAS VERY QUICK ACCESS AND THEY WOULD HAVE COOPERATED.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE TODAY IN TERMS OF DIALOGUE IS
GOING TO REMEDY A LOT OF THIS PROBLEM.
AGAIN I WANT TO ECHO MY THANK YOU TO YOU AND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
TO BETTY AND MARILYN AND THE GROUPS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM "B" PAGE 4?
ITEM "B" PAGE 4.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON "B" PAGE 4?
I SEE NONE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S SOLVED.
>>> MAJOR: I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM "C", PAGE 4.
A REQUEST ABOUT FALSE ALARMS.
SOME OF IT, PART OF IT WAS DELAYED, WITH THE INTERNAL AUDIT.
BUT THERE WAS ALSO OTHER PARTS IF APPROPRIATE WE WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS THOSE REFERENCE HOW FALSE ALARMS ARE HANDLED FROM THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT ASPECT.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONTINUE.
>>> THIS IS JACK WATERS.
HE HEADS UP OUR FALSE ALARM REDUCTION UNIT WHICH HAS SEEN
SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN THE FOCUS OF WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER SPECIFICS.
>>> JACK: I UNDERSTAND FROM THE NOTES THAT I HAVE TO YOU ALL
AND THE REPORT.
I WAS TOLD THAT I SHOULD BE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION
ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF FALSE ALARMS.
THAT DEFINITION IS CONTAINED IN THE CITY ORDINANCE WHICH IS
14-276.
BRIEFLY, WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT A FALSE ALARM IS WHEN AN ALARM
SYSTEM REPORTS THAT AN INCIDENT HAS OCCURRED, WHICH IS CRIME IN
PROGRESS, AND IF AN OFFICER RESPONDS TO THAT LOCATION AND HE



LEARNS, OR SHE LEARNS THAT THERE IS NO CRIME IN PROGRESS, THEN
THAT'S CONSIDERED A FALSE ALARM.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
ONE OF THOSE IS IF THE ALARM IS CAUSED BY INCLEMENT WEATHER.
A SECOND ONE IS IF IT'S CAUSED BY A FAULTY TELEPHONE LINE.
A THIRD INCIDENT IS IF IT IS CAUSED BY SOME OTHER THING THAT IS
BEYOND THE OWNER'S CONTROL.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ADDED A FOURTH EXCEPTION TO THAT, AND
THAT IS IF THE OFFICER IS CANCELED PRIOR TO THE ARRIVAL AT THE
SCENE, THEN WE DO NOT CONSIDER THAT A FALSE ALARM.
WHEN AN OFFICER RESPONDS TO THE ALARM AND HE FINDS THAT THERE IS
NO EVIDENCE OF A CRIME, HE INDICATES THAT ON THE POLICE
COMMUNITY -- COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH COMPUTER.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, OR WITHIN A DAY OR TWO, THE FALSE ALARM
REDUCTION UNIT ASSESSES A FEE, OR EXAMINES IT TO SEE IF A FEE IS
READY FOR A FEE TO BE ASSESSED AND SENDS A BILL OUT.
SEVERAL WEEKS LATER, WHEN THE OWNER OF THE PLACE RECEIVES THE
BILL-N MANY CASES THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THEY FIND OUT THAT THEIR
ALARM HAS SOUNDED.
WE HAVE CHANGED THAT PROCEDURE SO THAT OFFICERS WHO RESPOND TO
ALARMS IN THE FUTURE WILL BE HANGING A HANG TAG ON THE DOOR OF
THE PERSON'S HOME OR BUSINESS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR ALARM
HAS SOUNDED.
WE THOUGHT THE ALARM COMPANIES WERE NOTIFYING THEM AND IT TURNED
OUT THEY ARE NOT.
OR AT LEAST SOME OF THEM ARE AND MOST OF THEM AREN'T.
IF THE OWNER THE NEXT DAY AFTER HIS ALARM GOES OFF WHEN HE GETS
TO WORK OR WHATEVER, HE FINDS THAT THERE IS SOME EVIDENCE OF A
CRIME, HE CAN CALL THE POLICE COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE, AND THEY
WILL SEND A UNIT OUT THERE.
AND IF THE OFFICER ARRIVES AND FINDS THAT INDEED THERE IS
EVIDENCE OF A CRIME, THE OFFICER WILL ORIGINATE A REPORT OF
VANDALISM OR CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OR ATTEMPTED BURGLARY, ATTEMPTED
ROBBERY, WHATEVER IT IS, AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT CHANGES
IN THE COMPUTER FROM A FALSE ALARM THEN TO A CALL TO A CRIME.
OCCASIONALLY A FALSE ALARM UNIT DOES NOT GET NOTIFIED OF THAT.
BUT THE OWNER WILL THEN CALL US AND TELL US, AND THEN WE WILL
CHECK IN THE COMPUTER AND FIND THAT INDEED THERE IS A CRIMINAL
REPORT THERE, AND IN THAT CASE WE WILL CREDIT THAT AND SHOW THAT
THERE WAS NO FALSE ALARM THERE AT THAT TIME.
OCCASIONALLY, THE OWNER WILL WAIT UNTIL THE BILL FROM THE ALARM
COMES WHICH COULD BE SIX WEEKS AFTER THE INCIDENT AND WILL CALL
AND THE POLICE OFFICER WILL GO OUT THERE AND NOT BE ABLE TO FIND
ANY EVIDENCE THAT A CRIME OCCURRED ON THAT DATE SIX WEEKS, SEVEN
WEEKS, FIVE WEEKS BEFORE.
THIS MAY WELL CAUSE THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS TO BE ASSESSED AN
ALARM THAT HE DOES NOT THINK HE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY.
THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED BY
CITY COUNCIL IN 1989, OR AMENDED IN 1989, THAT ADVISES THAT HE
HAS 15 DAYS TO NOTIFY ME AND TO FILE AN APPEAL TO THE THING.
AND PEOPLE DO THAT EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH, AND WE FIND EITHER
FOR OR AGAINST THEM.


AND EITHER CREDIT THEM OR TELL THEM THAT, SORRY, YOU'RE DENIED
AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ASK THIS.
IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL THING, DO YOU SEE AN INCREASE IN ALARMS,
FALSE ALARMS BEGUN ON?
COULD THAT BE BECAUSE OF THE NEW SENSITIVITY IN THE EQUIPMENT
THAT ARE THERE, THAT SOMETHING OTHER THAN SOME PERPETRATOR
TRYING TO BREAK IN MAY SET IT OFF?
>>> YES, SIR.
IN 1999 THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO 53,458 ALARM
CALLS.
OF THOSE 52,121 WERE FALSE ALARMS.
THAT'S 97.5% OF ALL OF THE ALARMS THAT WE RESPONDED TO WERE
FALSE ALARMS, THAT DID NOT HAVE ANY CRIME OCCURRING AT THE
LOCATION AT THE TIME.
ONE OF THE APPEALS THAT I HANDLED DURING THE PAST YEAR WAS FROM
A GENTLEMAN WHO HAD A BUSINESS ON CYPRESS STREET IN WEST TAMPA.
HE HAD OVERHEAD DOORS IN FRONT OF HIS BUSINESS.
HE WAS APPEALING $160 IN FALSE ALARM FEES.
HE ADVISED ME THAT THE ALARMS ALWAYS HAPPEN ON WEEKENDS, AND
THAT HE BELIEVED THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE
WALKING UP TO HIS OVERHEAD DOORS AND JUST TRYING THE DOORS, TO
SEE IF THEY WERE UNLOCKED-F THEY FORGOT TO LOCK THEM.
AND OF COURSE THEY HAD NOT FORGOT TO LOCK THEM.
BUT BY MOVING THE DOORS, HE SAID THE LITTLE MAGNETIC SWITCHES
WERE MOVING JUST FAR ENOUGH TO SET THE ALARM OFF.
AFTER HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS, I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER WAYS TO WIRE THOSE DOORS.
AND I HAVE SEEN IN THE MILITARY A THING CALLED A TRIP WIRE,
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE AN OLD TELEPHONE PLUG, WHERE THE TWO
WIRES ARE PLUGGED TOGETHER AND YOU CAN PULL SLACK IN THERE SO
THAT THEY HAVE TO MOVE THE DOOR MORE THAN FIVE OR SIX INCHES TO
PULL IT APART.
AND I SAID CALL YOUR ALARM COMPANY AND ASK THEM IF THEY CAN --
OR SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE.
HE DID THAT.
AND HE CALLED ME BACK A WEEK LATER AND SAID, LOOK, FORGET THE
APPEAL, I'LL PAY THE $160.
IT'S WORTH TO THE ME TO AVOID THE AGGRAVATION.
THEY HAVE COME OUT AND REWIRED THE DOORS THE WAY YOU SUGGESTED.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE I AM EVER GOING TO GET ANOTHER FALSE ALARM.
AND AS IT HAPPENS, HE HASN'T.
THIS WAS LIKE MONTHS AGO.
AND HE HASN'T HAD ANOTHER FALSE ALARM SINCE THEN.
ANOTHER GENTLEMAN CALLED.
HE ADVISED ME THAT HE OWNED A BRAKE AND MUFFLER SHOP AND THAT
HIS SHOP WAS NEAR A CHARITY THAT WAS FEEDING THE HOMELESS.
AND ISSUING SOME KIND OF PASSES TO SLEEP IN A PARK NEARBY OR
SOMETHING.
AND HE SAID THAT THESE FOLKS THAT WERE A TRACKED TO THIS CHARITY
WERE CONSTANTLY PANHANDLING HIS CUSTOMERS AND SCARED THEM OFF.
AND HE DIDN'T LIKE IT.



AND HE KEPT RUNNING OFF THE HOMELESS FOLKS.
AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE BELIEVED THAT THESE PEOPLE WERE COMING
BACK DURING THE NIGHT AFTER HE LEFT AND KICKING HIS DOORS, WHICH
CAUSED A BOOMING SOUND, AND IT HAD SOUND DETECTORS IN PART OF
HIS ALARM SYSTEM.
AND I SAID, WELL, CHECK WITH YOUR ALARM COMPANY.
I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE OVERHEAD DOORS.
CHECK WITH YOUR ALARM COMPANY.
SEE IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO AVOID THESE KIND OF
NUISANCE THINGS.
HE CALLED ME BLACK LATER, TOLD ME HE TALKED WITH THEM AND
NOTHING TO IT.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS INSTRUCT US NOT TO CALL THE POLICE UNLESS
BOTH THE PERIMETER SWITCH AND THE NOISE ALARM GO OFF.
AND WE JUST WON'T CALL FROM A SINGLE NOISE.
AND AGAIN THIS GENTLEMAN HAS NOT HAD ANY FURTHER FALSE ALARMS.
SO MY THRUST IN THIS WHOLE THING IS TO CHANGE THIS FROM A KIND
OF MINI TAXATION OFFICE, WHICH FRANKLY IT DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL
ANYWAY, WE DON'T COLLECT THAT MUCH MONEY, INTO AN ACTUAL
REDUCTION EFFORT TO TRY TO ACTUALLY GET TO THE PROBLEM, TO THE
ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, AND GET PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR SYSTEMS OR
WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF ALARMS.
AND PART OF THAT EFFORT IS SINCE THE ALARM COMPANIES DON'T SEEM
TO BE MOTIVATED TO DO THIS, I HAVE ASKED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
TO TRAIN SOME OF OUR CRIME PREVENTION PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY INSPECT
THESE ALARM SYSTEMS TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THEM, WITH THE IDEA OF
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T CAUSE FALSE ALARMS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT
BEFORE THE 80s THERE WERE VERY LITTLE ALARMS.
VERY LITTLE CALLS FOR ALARMS.
>>> THE NUMBER ALARM SYSTEMS CONTINUES TO GROW.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: INCREASE IMMENSELY.
SO ONE SUGGESTION IS YOU GET WITH BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY
SERVICES ON ISSUING THE PERMITS FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THE
STRUCTURES, AND NOW MODERN SOCIETY THAT BUILD IN THROUGH THE
STRUCTURES, WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, AND TO HAVE
SOME GUIDANCE INTO THE BUILDING OF THOSE THINGS, AND WHAT TYPES
OF ALARMS AND WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, SO THAT WAY YOU DON'T RUN
YOURSELF RAGGED.
>>> MR. CHAIRMAN YOU'RE ENTIRELY CORRECT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DRAFTING A KNEW PROPOSAL FOR ORDINANCE
CHANGE REGARDING FALSE ALARMS.
IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POSITION WE DO NOT WANT TO BE OUT
THERE COLLECTING THE FUNDS FROM FALSE ALARMS.
THAT IS A LAST DITCH DETERRENT.
RIGHT NOW, WITH 52,000 FALSE ALARMS PER YEAR, THAT IS THE
EQUIVALENT OF APPROXIMATELY 10 FULL TIME OFFICERS DOING NOTHING
BUT ANSWERING FALSE ALARMS EVERY YEAR.
SO IN EFFECT YOU COULD TAKE ONE OF OUR PATROL SQUADS AND
DEDICATE THEM TO DOING NOTHING BUT ANSWERING FALSE ALARMS.
THE FEE STRUCTURE IS IN THERE SO THAT WE CAN TRY AND ENCOURAGE
OTHER PEOPLE TO FIX THEIR ALARMS.
THE FIRST THREE ALARMS DO NOT INCUR ANY FEE AT ALL.
WE ALSO HAVE A VERY LOW FEE.
SOME STATES RANGE UP TO $4 PER FALSE ALARM AND SUSPENSION OF
SERVICE.
WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO GO THAT ROUTE.
BUT WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE SOME PEOPLE.
WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IN SOME TRAINING SESSIONS.
WE ALSO LIKE PEOPLE TO REGISTER THEIR ALARMS.
CURRENTLY NOW WITH ALL NEW GROWTH IN MANY SUBDIVISIONS IN PARTS
OF THE CITY, EVERY HOME COMES WITH AN ALARM SYSTEM.
MANY ARE ACTIVATED.
SOME ARE NOT.
BUT WHEN THOSE ARE NOW YOU HAVE A GREAT MORE DEAL OF RESPONSES
REQUIRED WHICH TAKES US AWAY FROM LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT REQUIRES IT.
SO OUR PHILOSOPHY IS TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE FEE STRUCTURE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THAT DOES WORK.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT SIMPLY REFUSE TO PAY THE FEES
THAT HAVE BEEN ASSESSED AND THEY CONSIDER IT A COST OF DOING
BUSINESS.
SOME HAVE EVEN BEEN QUOTED ON THE AIR SAYING THE ONLY REASON
THEY EVEN HAVE THE ALARM IS BECAUSE THEIR INSURANCE REQUIRES IT.
SO THAT THE POLICE RESPOND.
WELL, THE POLICE RESPOND.
AND AFTER MULTIPLE ALARMS AT THAT BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE, THEN
THE FEES ARE ESTABLISHED AND THEY ARE NOT PAID.
WE WOULD RATHER HAVE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE AND NO FALSE ALARMS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. FERLITA, THEN MRS. ALVAREZ.
>>ROSE FERLITA: THE THING THAT PROMPTED ME IS WHEN JEFF
PATTERSON OF CHANNEL 8 WAS DOING HIS STORY ON FALSE ALARMS TO
LOOK AT IT FURTHER.
THERE WAS A TWO-FOLD REASON FOR ME ASKING YOU GENTLEMEN TO
DEFINE IT.
FIRST OF ALL THE CONCEPT OF FALSE ALARMS AND WHAT CONSTITUTES A
FALSE ALARM AND WHETHER PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE GETTING FAIRLY
TREATED IN TERMS OF -- THAT WAS A FALSE ALARM AND WE SAY IN
TERMS OF CITY, NO, IT WASN'T.
IT WAS GIVING A CHARGE.
SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THE ACTUAL FALSE ALARM PROCESS, AND WOULD WE RATHER
OUR POLICE OFFICERS BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE WITH THOSE SAME
MANPOWER HOURS IN TERMS OF GOING TO A FALSE ALARM INSTEAD OF
SOMETHING THAT WAS SERIOUS?
AND THAT KIND OF PIQUED MY INTEREST.
AND I THINK YOU ADDRESSED WHAT CONSTITUTES A FALSE ALARM.
BUT FROM THAT STORY I WAS PROMPTED TO LOOK A LITTLE MORE AT WHAT
BOTH EXTRA DUTY AND FALSE ALARMS GENERATE.
EXTRA DUTY GENERATES 5 MILLION A YEAR.
BUT I SAW AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM IN THE MISCELLANEOUS ACCOUNT
RECEIVABLE SYSTEM WHICH IS NOTHING YOU AND I ARE INVOLVED WITH.
WHEN THEY START DOWNLOADING THAT TO EXTRA DUTY, THERE ARE ALL
KIND OF PROBLEMS.
EVIDENTLY IT'S GOT SOME CALCULATION ERRORS AND PEOPLE LOOK LIKE
THEY ARE DELINQUENT.
SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY DON'T.
SO IT TURNED OUT TO BE A BIGGER MESS ACTUALLY THAN I REALIZE.
ED AT THE BEGINNING.
AND NOW IT INVOLVES ASKING FOR RON IBARRA AND REVENUE AND
FINANCE TO HELP WITH THE ACCOUNTING SIDE.
AGAIN TWO-FOLD.
ALSO WAITING FOR THE POST AUDIT REVIEW FROM MRS. MILLER'S
DEPARTMENT.
SEEING IF PERHAPS WE CAN IMPROVE ON OUR ACCOUNTING SO THAT WE
HAVE SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE.
AGAIN SHIFTING TO THE EXTRA DUTY.
WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE THAT IS NOT COLLECTED IN
ADDITION TO WHAT WE ARE PAYING OF TAX DOLLARS, AND THEY GET THAT
PAY.
WE SHOULD INCORPORATE SOME SORT OF SOLUTION IN TERMS OF
REQUESTING OR DEMANDING A DEPOSIT.
AND ONCE THOSE BUSINESSES COME TO THE POINT THAT THEY DON'T PAY,
WE TAKE IT FROM THE DEPOSIT.
SO WE DON'T TAKE THE RISK OF THE FACT THEY OWE US A TON OF MONEY
AND THEN THEY DECLARE BANKRUPTCY AND THEY ARE DONE.
SO THAT PART IS THE REQUEST I MADE IN TERMS OF MY MOTION, PUSHED
TO JANUARY.
I AM GOING TO ASK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE YOU TWO
GENTLEMEN OR WHO, SOMEONE FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MEET WITH
ME, SOMEBODY FROM REVENUE AND FINANCE WITH MRS. MILLER, AND
FIRST TALK ABOUT THE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE ISSUE IN TERMS OF THE
COLLECTIBLE SIDE OF OUR DISCUSSION.
I THINK FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, YOU HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE
AND THE DEFINITION OF FALSE ALARMS.
AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.
I THINK THERE WAS AN AD ON, A REQUEST BY THE CHAIRMAN, AND HE
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT RAYMOND JAMES AND ICE PALACE.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO HIS CONCERNS THERE, I WANTED THAT OUT OF
MY EQUATION BECAUSE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS SOME
CONTRACT NEGOTIATED BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, SOLIDIFIED
BY THIS ONE TO ALLOW 30 YEARS, OR TO GRANT 30 YEARS OF TRAFFIC
CONTROL FOR THE POLICE.
SO THEN WE GET INTO SOME OTHER ISSUES.
I GUESS AT THIS POINT, A, THANK YOU FOR DEFINING THE FIRST PART
OF MY REQUEST.
AND B, IN JANUARY, I WILL ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE
PARTICIPANTS IN WAY WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF THE ACCOUNTING.
>>> AND WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPEN HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE.
I KNOW YOU WILL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>>> DEPUTY CHIEF TINA WRIGHT AGAIN.
AND I'M HERE TO HAVE ADDRESSED THE SECOND PORTION OF THAT
PARTICULAR CONCERN.
AND THAT RELATES TO APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT A
CONTRACT WITH THE SPORTS AUTHORITY AND A CONTRACT WITH THE ICE
PALACE.
AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE ICE PALACE, THAT'S IN LITIGATION.
AS FAR AS RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH
THEM RELATING TO TRAFFIC CONTROL.
IT'S REALLY THROUGH THE SPORTS AUTHORITY.
AND ALL OF THAT IS DONE THROUGH EXTRA DUTY.
SO --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET OUT.
THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT PAYING NO COST AT ALL DURING ANY
EVENT AT THE STADIUM.
>>> WRIGHT: REGARDING THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, THEY REIMBURSE US.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD.
>>> RELATING TO THE EXTRA DUTY, I HAVE ANN ANDREWS, A SUPERVISOR
OF THAT UNIT.
AND RUBY GAST FROM THE FISCAL BUREAU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
RELATING TO EXTRA DUTY.
>>ROSE FERLITA: GO AHEAD, MA'AM, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
>>> ON THE QUESTION OF EXTRA DUTY I THINK YOU DECIDED YOU WANT
TO MEET IN JANUARY.
>>ROSE FERLITA: AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE KIND OF RUSH THE
SYSTEM, RUSH THE PERSONNEL.
YOU GOT MY MOTION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK AND THEN RUSH TO
GIVE ME A REPORT.
I GOT IT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IS SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.
SO I THINK LEISURELY, IF YOU LADIES WILL NOT MIND JOINING ME IN
A MEETING WITH THEM, I THINK WE CAN GET A MORE IMPROVED SYSTEM
OF ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE.
SO THAT EVERYBODY WINS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
AND I'M SORRY FOR THE RUSH.
AND WE'LL GET TOGETHER IN JANUARY.
MY AIDE WILL NOTIFY YOU.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE FINISHED WITH A, B AND C.
WRIGHT: IF I CAN ADDRESS E, MAJOR DAVIS UPDATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW I'M RUNNING AN HOUR BEHIND BUT THAT'S
SET FOR A SPECIFIC TIME.
AND I HAVE JUST GOT TO WAIT A FEW MORE MINUTES TO FINISH A
COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA AND I'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO
THAT.
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
BUT I WANT TO JUST FOR CLARITY GO BACK TO DO THE COMMITTEE
REPORTS IF I MAY REAL QUICKLY.
PUBLIC SAFETY, MR. BOB BUCKHORN, CHAIRMAN.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: MOVE ITEM 17.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PARK, RECREATION, CULTURE COMMITTEE
CHAIRMAN, GWEN MILLER.
>>GWEN MILLER: I MOVE RESOLUTIONS 18 THROUGH 21.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: ON ITEM NUMBER 20, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE
SALLY BARTHOLOMEW IN THE FRONT ROW.
AND WE ALL KNEW -- OBVIOUSLY SCOTT CAME IN A FEW MONTHS AGO AND
TALKED ABOUT THIS.
SALLY, WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE COULD TO HONOR THE SERVICE THAT
GEORGE PROVIDED TO HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT.
YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU CARE TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU'RE WELCOME.
>>> SALLY BARTHOLOMEW: MY HUSBAND SPENT THE LAST 16 YEARS OF
HIS LIFE WORKING FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW HE WOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT I PERSONALLY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.
AND YOUR HUSBAND IS VERY DESERVING OF THIS.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. MILLER.
SECOND BY MRS. ALVAREZ ON 18 THROUGH 21.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN, ROSE
FERLITA.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I MOVE 22 THROUGH 29, PLEASE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE REMOVING 28.
WE D THAT EARLIER.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIR MARY ALVAREZ.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE ITEMS 30 THROUGH 32.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND BY MR. BUCKHORN.
DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING TO PROGRESS
TELECOMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION, ITS SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGNS, A
NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE TO USE THE PUBLIC STREETS, ALLEYS,
HIGHWAYS, WATERWAYS, BRIDGES, EASEMENTS AND OTHER PUBLIC PLACES
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE AND
OPERATION OF THE FIBER-OPTIC CABLE SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
AND PRESCRIBING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH SAID
NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE MAY BE EXERCISED, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
SECOND BY MR. BUCKHORN.
DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
BUILDING, ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIR MRS. LINDA SAUL-SENA.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'D LIKE TO MOVE RESOLUTIONS 34, 37, 38, 39,
40, 41, 42, 43, 48, 49.
THAT'S IT FOR RIGHT NOW.
I'M SORRY, I BELIEVE -- DON'T WE HAVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE
BECAUSE WE ARE CONTINUING THAT TO THE 21st?
SO IT'S 34.
36 THROUGH 43.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST A COUPLE SO THAT'S WHY I DID THAT.
WE ARE SKIPPING 44, 45 AND 46.
AND I SAID 47 THROUGH 49.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 50.
IS THAT CORRECT?
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
>>THE CLERK: YOU WANT TO HOLD 44, 45?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: DID WE VOTE ON CONTINUING IT?
>>CHAIRMAN: WE TOOK CARE OF 35.
AND MR. MORRIS MASSEY CAME UP.
46 WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.
YOU WANT TO HOLD 44, 45, 47.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: AND 50.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 50 WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: THROUGH 49.
>>JAMES PALERMO: NO, 47.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STATE THAT MOTION AGAIN.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'M SORRY.
TAKE IT FROM THE TOP.
34.
WE HAVE ALREADY DEALT WITH 35 AND 36.
CORRECT?
OKAY.
37 THROUGH 43.
>>JAMES PALERMO: HAVEN'T DONE 36.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAVEN'T DONE 36.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I SAID THROUGH 43.
AND THEN 46 THROUGH 49.
46, 48 AND 49.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SEE IF IN MY MIND YOU CAN CLEAR THIS
UP.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE AT A TIME?
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: 34, 37 --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: LET'S DO IT 34.
WE HAVE ALREADY DONE 35 AND 36.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE NOT DONE 36.
WE HAVE DONE 35.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: OH, OKAY.
THAT WAS CONFUSING.
I'M SORRY.
34, 36 THROUGH 43.
LET'S DO THAT.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY.
MOTION BY MRS. SAUL-SENA.
SECOND BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE TO MOVE 46 AND
47.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: SO MOVED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAIT A MINUTE.
SAUCE SAUL-SENA 44 AND 45.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: SO MOVED, MR. CHAIRMAN.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A MOTION BY MR. BUCKHORN TO MOVE 4644
AND 45.
>> SECOND.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION PASSES 5 TO 1.
>>THE CLERK: SAUL-SENA NO.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: CORRECT.
THEN 46 WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.
NUMBER 47 WE HAVE CONTINUED.
CORRECT?
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
WE HELD IT.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: SO I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE NUMBER 47 FOR ONE
WEEK.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION BY MRS. SAUL-SENA FOR 47 FOR ONE
WEEK.
SECOND BY MR. ALVAREZ.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED, NAY.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: ITEMS 48 AND 49 I MOVE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION MOVED BY MRS. SAUL-SENA.
48 AND 49.
SECOND BY MR. HARRISON.
FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: THEN 51 MOVE AN ORDER INANDING CITY OF TAMPA
ORDINANCE 200-101 WHICH VACATED CLOSED DISCONTINUED AND
ABANDONED A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY A PORTION OF 6th AVENUE LYING
IN OR ABUTTING MARYLAND AVENUE SUBDIVISION A SUBDIVISION IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED THEREIN TO
CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN LEGAL DESCRIPTION PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: SEND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>> NUMBER 52.
AN ORDINANCE RESCINDING, REPEALING AND SUPERSEDING CITY OF TAMPA
ORDINANCE 99-239 AND VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
ABANDONING CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY A PORTION OF ARCH STREET,
NASSAU STREET, GRACE STREET, MARIE AVENUE AND CLEAR VIEW AVENUE,
IN PALERMO, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
HEREOF SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS AS SET
FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: NUMBER 53.
MOVE AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND
ABANDONING A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY AN ALLEYWAY LOCATED IN BLOCK 7
OF VILLA ST. LOUIS, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF PERMANENT CITY
SEWER EASEMENT AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TRANSPORTATION -- TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
CHAIR SHAWN HARRISON.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: I MOVE 54 WITH THE SUBSTITUTED EXHIBITS, 55,
56, THE SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTION, AND 57, THROUGH 59.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION BY MR. HARRISON SECONDED BY
MRS. FERLITA.
DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>SHAWN HARRISON: ITEM 60 I MOVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA, FLORIDA AMENDING AN ARTICLE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES
CHAPTER 15 DIVISION 4 SECTION 15-121 PENALTIES FOR PARKING
VIOLATIONS, TICKET CANCELLATION PRIVILEGES, BY ADDING TITLES OF
CODE SECTION AND BY ADDING THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATION OF
ORDINANCE NUMBER 200-275 PROHIBITING VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ALONG
16th STREET PEDESTRIAN WAY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>ROSE FERLITA: SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
MILL MILLION I WOULD LIKE TO SET PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR JANUARY 11,
6:30 P.M.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
>>GWEN MILLER: NUMBER 61 THROUGH 70.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I'VE HEARD RECENTLY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT
COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AT THE NUMBER OF MONTHS IT
TAKES TO GET ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ZONING MEETINGS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE USED TO SCHEDULE TWO ZONING HEARINGS A MONTH,
AND WHEN THE ECONOMY BECAME QUIETER WE TOOK -- WE ONLY STARTED
SCHEDULING ONE.
WELL, NOW, I UNDERSTAND, EVERYONE THOUGH IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING
OF DECEMBER, THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO GET ON A MARCH CALENDAR.
AND IN DEFERENCE TO THE PUBLIC, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE OF COUNCIL TO BEGIN SCHEDULING TWO ZONING HEARINGS A
MONTH AS A MATTER OF COURSE, AND SHOULD THINGS QUIET DOWN WE CAN
CERTAINLY NOT SCHEDULE A SECOND ONE.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE TO WAIT THAT
NUMBER OF MONTHS TO BE HELD.
AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD JUST BE COURTEOUS OF US AS THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES TO AFFORD THEM THAT MORE SPEEDY CALENDAR.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
USED TO DO.
>>ROSE FERLITA: I AGREE WITH YOU FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS SO JAM-PACKED THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT A
LONG TIME.
ANOTHER THING TOO.
SOMETIMES WE TRY TO CROWD THAT AGENDA SO TIGHTLY THAT I DON'T
KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC,
COME THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH ITEMS IT'S FINE.
IT SEEMS AT THE END WE ARE MORE INVOLVED WITH LOOKING AT THE
CLOCK AND SAYING, GOSH, IT'S 11:30 AT NIGHT, 12:00, WE ARE
TIRED, AND IN OUR VOTING PROCESS I DON'T THINK IS FAIR AT THAT
POINT.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT STEPS WE NEED TO TAKE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO
BE MUCH FAIRER TO THE PUBLIC IF WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE -- GLORIA MOREDA TO
GIVE US A REPORT NEXT MEETING HOW MANY WE DID LAST YEAR ON THE
AVERAGE OF ONCE A MONTH SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN DETAIL.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SINCE SHE WILL BE
HERE TONIGHT, WE HAVE THAT MEETING TONIGHT, SO THAT IF INDEED WE
HAVE A LARGE NUMBER WE CAN BEGIN TO INSTITUTE THIS BEGINNING IN
-- WELL, PERHAPS IN ADDITION TO TELLING US THE NUMBER, TELL US
WHERE WE ARE IN OUR CALENDAR, IN AN EFFORT TO BEGIN TO MEET THE
PUBLIC'S NEEDS ON A MORE TIMELY BASIS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>>ROSE FERLITA: AND I KNOW WHAT YOUR PASSION IS ABOUT SKIPPING
LUNCH AND DINNER.
ARE YOU WILLING TO DO BOTH OF THOSE, SKIP LUNCH AND DINNER AND
KEEP GOING?
JUST JOKING.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: NO, I THINK WE SHOULD START AT 5:30.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD START AT 8:00 IN THE
MORNING ALSO.
BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
>> MAKE A MOTION.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T NEED TO CHANGE IT.
SHE'S GOING TO BE IN TONIGHT SO MRS. SAUL-SENA WILL ASK HER WHEN
SHE GETS HERE.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, TONIGHT SHE'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THE
INFORMATION.
SAUL-SENA SAUCE I NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED BUT IF YOU HAVE
SOMEBODY ON THE SAME INSTANCE TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER, THEY ARE NOT
GOING TO HAVE THAT NUMBER SO MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION YOU CALL
HER AND ASK HER TO BE HERE TONIGHT WITH THAT INFORMATION.
THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE NO MOTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: WE HAVE 20 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CLUTTER IT UP ANY FURTHER THAN IT IS
ALREADY.
I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF ASKING HER TO COME IN IN A WEEK, AND --
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A DISPUTE HERE ON A 5-4 UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
DECISION.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION BY MRS. SAUL-SENA, SECONDED BY MRS. FERLITA,
TO HAVE HER.
WHEN DO YOU WANT HER?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK GLORIA MOREDA TO COME
NEXT THURSDAY WITH THE NUMBER OF REZONING HEARINGS AND A
PROPOSAL BEGINNING TO SCHEDULE IT MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY BECAUSE IF
WE HAVE 20 ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO
THE ISSUE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO JUDGE SUETTER SAID IT RIGHT.
NOW WE HAVE A GOOD MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED, NAY.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AGENDA FROM THE WAY I HAVE IT.
I HAVE 9:30, 10:00 AND 10:30 HEARINGS.
SO IN ALL FAIRNESS I AM GOING TO START WITH THE 9:30 HEARINGS
FIRST.
I NEED TO OPEN ITEM 3 THROUGH 14.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SO MOVED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECONDED BY MRS. FERLITA.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
ITEMS 3 THROUGH 14 ARE NOW OPEN.
ITEM 3.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 3 PAGE 2?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE TO CLOSE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SEEING NO ONE, MOTION TO CLOSE, SECOND BY
MR. BUCKHORN.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. ALVAREZ, WOULD YOU TAKE 3, PLEASE.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE AN ORDINANCE VACATING CLOSING
DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY A PORTION OF
PALM SPRINGS BOULEVARD, LOCATED AT TAMPA PALMS AREA 4, PARCEL
20, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF
SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS AND
AGREEMENTS AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
A SECOND BY MR. BUCKHORN.
FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>> MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING,
AND ABANDONING A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY A PORTION OF PALM SPRINGS
BOULEVARD LOCATED IN THE TAMPA PALMS AREA 4, PARCEL 20, A
SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA,
THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT
TO THE RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN, SUBJECT TO THE CERTAIN COVENANTS AND
AGREEMENTS AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHAIRMAN: I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
I HAVE A SECOND BY MR. BUCKHORN.
ROLE CAL.
VOTE AND RECORD.
>>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 4 ON PAGE 2.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CARES TO SPEAK ON PAGE 4 -- ITEM 4
PAGE 2?
>>MOSES KNOTT, JR.: GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS MOSES KNOTT, JR..
I RESIDE AT 2902.
AGAIN I THANK GOD FOR HIS GRACE AND HIS MERCY.
YOU ALL GOT TO EXCUSE ME THIS MORNING.
I BEEN GOING TO THOSE FREEDOM MARCHES.
I WENT TO A FREEDOM MARCH ON MONDAY DOWN IN MIAMI.
THE MAYOR DOWN THERE WAS TOTALLY AGAINST THOSE ALIENS.
HE WAS BLOCKING TRAFFIC.
SO I GOT A THING AGAINST HIM NOW.
BUT I WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ARTICLE 4 HERE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
>>MOSES KNOTT, JR.: YOU KNOW, THIS SCHOOL COME IN THERE.
THIS IS MY SECOND TIME SAYING THIS HERE.
THEY DONE PUT UP HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PROJECTS IN THIS TOWN.
BUT THIS MILTON SCHOOL IS ABOUT THE -- I AM USING IT FOR A PROP
AND I HOPE YOU ALL USE IT FOR A PROP.
FROM DAY ONE HERE, THAT COMMUNITY TAX GOT THIS DEAL PAID FOR.
AND I'M A OWES THE RAILROAD TRACK AND I'M REAL UPSET BECAUSE
THEY DIDN'T COME ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACK.
I OWN 13 LOTS.
I USED TO OWN IT.
THEY TOOK ALL THE PROPERTY FROM ME, PUT FINES ON ME AND ABOUT 7
LOTS, A WHITE MAN BY THE NAMED OF ROBERT BURKE DIED BACK IN THE
80s AND LEFT THAT PROPERTY TO ME, AND THEY TOOK THAT FROM ME, HE
DEAD AND GONE NOW BUT THE PROPERTY BELONGS TO SOMEBODY ELSE NOW.
BUT I'M GOING TO SAY, THOUGH, I WISH YOU ALL USE THESE PEOPLE
FOR A ROLE MODEL AND A PROP.
YOU KNOW, THEY GOT A SYSTEM IN THIS TOWN WHEN THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPER COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAKE IT HARD FOR YOUR CODE
ENFORCEMENT GET STARTED 3 OR 4 YEARS BEFORE THEY GET THERE LIKE
ON 23rd STREET AND 34th STREET NOW.
I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT PUT THE BARS OUT OF BUSINESS.
I WISH YOU WOULD STOP KASH N' KARRY AND WIN DUCKS I FROM SELLING
ALCOHOL.
I NOTICE IN THIS THING RIGHT HERE, THAT ALBERTSON'S IS COMING IN
THERE, AND YOU ISSUE THEM A LIQUOR LICENSE.
THOSE DRUG ADDICT IS WAITING TO BUY THEIR LIQUOR IN THESE PLACES
HERE HALF PRICE THAN YOU CAN IN A BAR.
BUT I WANT TO SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARD.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET NO CREDIT IN THIS TOWN FOR DOING NOTHING
BUT MR. JOE TRUBBOUGH, HE KNOCKED ON MY DOOR AND THANKED ME FOR
GETTING THOSE COMMUNITY TAXPAYERS BECAUSE I WAS ON THE FRONT
ROW.
BUT I WISH THIS WHOLE TOWN WILL USE THESE PEOPLE FOR A ROLE
MODEL HERE BECAUSE THEY TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM THE LITTLE MAN,
TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM THE LITTLE MAN, BUILD A HOUSE THERE, AND
HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU BUILD A HOUSE AND SELL TO THE A POOR
MAN FOR $100,000, $600 A MONTH, AND SAY NONPROFIT?
I HAVE BEEN ON THIS FROM DAY ONE, AND PUT A GUY OUT TOURS AND
MOVE THE MIDDLE CLASS AND RICH IN.
BUT I WANT TO SAY I WISH EVERYBODY, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M REALLY
SICK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COME ACROSS THAT RAILROAD TRACK AND BUY
ME OUT.
SO RIGHT NOW I AM GOING TO DO THE OLD THING ON ME TO COME AND
PUSH ME OUT OF THERE AND THEN TAKE MY PROPERTY FROM ME, THE
LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY I GOT LEFT THERE.
BUT I WANT TO SAY, THOUGH, I THANK GOD FOR THESE PEOPLE RIGHT
HERE.
AND THEN AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLES AGAIN, THEY GONNA
COUNT THE VOTES.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO, NO.
SPEAK ON ITEM 4.
>>> EVERY VOTE COUNTS.
WELL, IT WOKE US UP ANYWAY.
ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE?
(BELL SOUNDS)
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CUT MYSELF OFF.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4, PAGE 2?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE TO CLOSE.
MY MILL MOVE TO CLOSE.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: SECOND.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. ALVAREZ, WILL YOU TAKE NUMBER 4 ALSO?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY PORTIONS OF
CARACAS AVENUE, MOVE FET AVENUE, 26th STREET, NEW ORLEANS
AVENUE, LOUISIANA, THOMAS AVENUE, 24th STREET, AND CERTAIN
ALLEYWAYS LOCATED BETWEEN OSBORNE AVENUE ON THE SOUTH, WILDER
STREET ON THE NOR, 22nd AVENUE ON THE WEST, AND CSX RAILROAD
LINES ON THE EAST, IN SUNNY VIEW SUB DIVISION, LIVINGSTON
HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, AND HOWARD SUBDIVISION, ALL BEING
SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA,
THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT
TO THE RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, RESTRICTIONS AND
AGREEMENTS, AS SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
SECOND BY MR. BURKE HO BUCKHORN.
FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING CERTAIN RIGHTS-OF-WAY PORTIONS OF
CARACAS AVENUE, MOFFETT AVENUE, 26th STREET, NEW ORLEANS AVENUE,
LOUISIANA, THOMAS AVENUE, 24th STREET AND CERTAIN ALLEYWAYS
LOCATED BETWEEN OSBORNE AVENUE ON THE SOUTH, WILDER STREET ON
THE NORTH, 22nd AVENUE ON THE WEST AND CSX RAILROAD LINES ON THE
EAST, IN SUNNY VIEW SUBDIVISION, LIVINGSTON HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION,
AND HOWARD SUBDIVISION, ALL BEING SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF
CERTAIN EASEMENTS AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HEREIN SUBJECT
TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, RESTRICTIONS AND AGREEMENTS, AS SET FORTH
HEREIN, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION ARE FOR ADOPTION BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
SECONDED BY MR. BUCKHORN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
VOTE AND RECORD.
>>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
MRS. MILLER WILL DO NUMBER 5.
>>GWEN MILLER: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON
ITEM NUMBER 5?
ALVAREZ AVENUES MOVE TO CLOSE.
>>GWEN MILLER: IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
MR. BUCKHORN, NUMBER 5.
>>BOB BUCKHORN: AN ORDINANCE RESCINDING, RE APPEALING AND
SUPERSEDING CITY OF TAMPA ORDINANCE 99-46 AND VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY A PORTION
OF HOOVER BOULEVARD IN TAMPANIA, A SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE FULLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HERE SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF
CERTAIN EASEMENTS AS SET FORTH HEREIN, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN
COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>GWEN MILLER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>BOB BUCKHORN: MOVE AN ORDINANCE RESCINDING REPEALING AND
SUPER SEEDING CITY OF TAMPA ORDINANCE NUMBER 99-46 AND VACATES,
CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A CERTAIN RIGHT-OF-WAY A
PORTION OF HOOVER BOULEVARD, IN TAMPANIA, A SUBDIVISION IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE SAME BEING MORE
FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION
OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS AS SETH SET HERE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
>>GWEN MILLER: VOTE AND RECORD.
>>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
>>GWEN MILLER: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO SPEAK ON
ITEM 6?
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE TO CLOSE.
>>GWEN MILLER: MOVED AND SECONDED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>BOB BUCKHORN: AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
PERTAINING TO OFFENSES AMENDING SECTION 14-63-E-1 AND 10 CITY OF
TAMPA CODE BY ADDING STOLEN PROPERTY RELATED PUBLIC NUISANCES IN
THE JURISDICTION OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND BY
INCREASING THE TOTAL FINES THAT CAN BE IMPOSED BY THE BOARD TO
$15,000 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 200-111, LAWS OF FLORIDA, PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>GWEN MILLER: I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
(MOTION CARRIED)
>> MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
PERTAINING OFFENSES AMENDING SECTION 14-63-E-1 AND 10 CITY OF
TAMPA CODE BY ADDING STOLEN PROPERTY RELATED PUBLIC NUISANCES IN
THE JURISDICTION OF THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD AND BY
INCREASING THE TOTAL FINES THAT CAN BE IMPOSED BY THE BOARD TO
$15,000 PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 200-111 LAWS OF FLORIDA PROVIDING
FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> VOTE AND RECORD.
>>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
>>GWEN MILLER: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE
TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7?
>>GINA GRIMES: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE EXTRA COPIES OF THE ORDINANCE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A COPY?
>>GWEN MILLER: YES, MRS. GRIMES.
>>GINA GRIMES: THAT CAN BE GIVEN BRIEFLY BY GOING THROUGH AND
OUT SIGNING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.
AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A CERTAIN PORTION OF TAMPA, WHAT'S
CALLED A -- REFERRED TO AS A CLEAN ZONE IN AND AROUND THE TIME
OF THE SUPER BOWL.
I WANT TO PUT ON THE OVERHEAD A COPY OF THE CLEAN ZONE AREA.
THE ORDINANCE PROPOSES THAT IT WILL BE IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY,
JULY 17, 2001 THROUGH MONDAY, JULY 29th, 2001, AND THESE
REGULATIONS WILL APPLY BASICALLY IN THE AREA SHOWN IN THE
ORDINANCE.
OR IN THE OVERHEAD.
WHICH IS GENERALLY BOUNDED BY HILLSBOROUGH ON THE NORTH, ON THE
SOUTH BY PALMETTO, ON THE EAST BY PORTIONS OF GLENN, MacDILL AND
HIMES, ON THE WEST BY LOIS.
AND THE AREA CONTAINING THE STADIUM PROPERTY ITSELF, AND SOME
ADJACENT AREAS IS EXEMPT FROM THE ORDINANCE, AND THERE'S A
SEPARATE MAP THAT SHOWS PRECISELY THE EXEMPTION AREA.
THE ONE THING I WANT TO BEGIN BY EMPHASIZING IS THAT EXISTING
CODES INCLUDING ZONING ARE GOING TO BE IN EFFECT DURING THE
ENTIRE PERIOD OF TIME THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS IN EFFECT.
AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME MISCONCEPTIONS AND MAYBE QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT AROSE THIS WEEKEND.
I THINK, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU STATED IT FAIRLY PRECISELY IN THE
PAPER TODAY, AND THAT IS THAT THE UNDERLINING ZONING FOR ALL THE
PROPERTY IN THE CLEAN ZONE IS BASICALLY GOING TO CONTROL THE
USES THAT ARE ALLOWED DURING THE CLONE ZONE TIME PERIOD.
THIS ORDINANCE ISN'T AFFECTING UNDERLINING ZONING.
IT ISN'T AFFECTING WHAT USES MAY OR MAY NOT BE CONDUCTED ON



PROPERTY DURING THE TIME PERIOD THE CLEAN ZONE ORDINANCE IS IN
EFFECT.
REALLY, THE CLEAN ZONE ORDINANCE DOES THREE THINGS.
WHAT IT DOES IS SAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONDUCT ANY OUTDOOR
ACTIVITIES ON YOUR PROPERTY, THOSE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES MUST BE
CONSISTENT WITH YOUR UNDERLINING ZONING.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO CONDUCT ANY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THAT DON'T
CURRENTLY EXIST, OR YOU DON'T CURRENTLY CONDUCT ON YOUR
PROPERTY, THEN YOU MUST CONDUCT THOSE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES IN A
TENT.
AND THE ORDINANCE GOES THROUGH AND IT PROVIDES CERTAIN TYPES OF
TENT RESTRICTIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE TENT RESTRICTIONS THAT
ARE ALREADY IN OUR ZONING CODE.
THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSES A MINIMUM SIZE, COLOR, THE LOCATION THAT
THE TENT MAY BE ON THE PROPERTY, AND THE WALLS AND DOORS OF THE
TENT.
AND THOSE TENT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN ADDITION TO THE TENT
RESTRICTIONS ALREADY CONTAINED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ZONING CODE.
ALSO, THE ORDINANCE IMPOSES SOME ADDITIONAL SIGN RESTRICTIONS.
THE SIGN RESTRICTIONS LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS YOU CAN HAVE ON
THE EXTERIOR OF THE TENT, AND IT PROHIBITS STREAMERS, PENNANTS,
BANNERS AND INFLATABLES.
AGAIN THOSE SIGN RESTRICTIONS ARE IN ADDITION TO THE SIGN
RESTRICTIONS CONTAINED THROUGHOUT OUR ZONING CODE.
IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THESE TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES DURING
THE CLEAN ZONE TIME PERIOD YOU WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
PERMITTING PROCESS.
THAT PERMITTING PROCESS IS DEEMED TO BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH
LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
IN FACT THEY HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED A PERMIT APPLICATION.
IT WILL BE PROCESSED MUCH IN THE SAME MANNER AS AN S-1 ZONING
PER -- PERMIT IS PROCESSED AND THAT IS THROUGH THE
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO THERE WILL BE A PERMIT REQUIREMENT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO
CONDUCT ANY TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.
AGAIN UNDERLINING ZONING CONTROLS.
YOU HAVE THE TENT RESTRICTIONS, TENT RESTRICTIONS.
THE ORDINANCE ALSO ADDRESSES COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY IN OUR PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AND I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE MAY HAVE ALSO
BEEN SOME MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE INTENT AND THE EFFECT OF THIS
PROVISION IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S CONTAINED ON PAGE 4.
WHAT IT DOES IS PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL, PROMOTIONAL, DESCRIBED AS
COMMERCIAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES INCLUDING THE DISTRIBUTION OF
SAMPLES ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, OR ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT ADDITIONALLY TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY
ACTIVITY IS PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THAT SUCH
ACTIVITY MAY BE CONDUCTED IN AN AREA SHOWN ON THE MAP AS FIRST
AMENDMENT PROPERTY.
AND I WANT TO SHOW A GRAPHIC.
THE INTENT OF THIS PROVISION IS TO LIMIT COMMERCIAL SALES

ACTIVITY ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, MEANING THE SIDEWALKS, AND ON
PUBLIC PROPERTY.
THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY IS ALREADY PROHIBITED UNDER CITY CODE,
RIGHT NOW.
THIS ORDINANCE GOES ON TO EXPRESSLY PROHIBIT IT DURING THE CLEAN
ZONE TIME PERIOD.
THERE MAY BE CERTAIN TYPE OF COMMERCIAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES
THAT ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND TO THE EXTENT
THAT THERE ARE THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES PROPOSED, AND THEY MAY
BE LOCATED IN THIS AREA DESIGNATED AS THE FIRST AMENDMENT AREA.
AND THIS FIRST AMENDMENT AREA IS IN FACT ON TAMPA SPORTS
AUTHORITY PROJECT PROPERTY.
IT IS PUBLIC PROPERTY BUT OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
AND THE INTENT OF REQUIRING THIS AREA TO BE DESIGNATED WASN'T TO
RESTRICT FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY ELSEWHERE.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IT WAS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SPECIFIED LOCATION WHERE
FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED ACTIVITY COULD BE PLANNED TO BE
CONDUCTED.
HOWEVER, TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OTHER FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY,
PURE NON-COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, IS INTENDED TO BE CONDUCTED ON
PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, OR PUBLIC PARKS, REFERRED TO AS THE
QUINTESSENTIAL PUBLIC FORUMS, THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT PROHIBITING
THAT.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ANYWHERE.
ALL IT DOES IS PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LOCATION WHERE CERTAIN
COMMERCIAL FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTED SPEECH CAN BE CONDUCTED ON
THE ACTUAL STADIUM PROPERTY.
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO CONDUCT ANY OTHER FIRST
AMENDMENT TYPE ACTIVITY ON THE PUBLIC STREETS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY
TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY ARE AUTHORIZED TO UNDER CITY CODE RIGHT
NOW, THEY WON'T BE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT.
WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE WERE CLEAR ON THAT POINT, UNDERSTAND
THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS CONSTRUED AS LIMITING WHERE FIRST
AMENDMENT ACTIVITY COULD BE CONDUCTED.
AND AS YOU WILL SEE AS YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE IT SAYS MAY BE
CONDUCTED THERE.
IT DEFENDANT'S DOESN'T PROHIBIT IT FROM BEING CONDUCTED ANYWHERE
ELSE.
I ALSO WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF THE
ORDINANCE.
REALLY THROWS A THREE FOLD PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE.
THE FIRST IS TO ENSURE THAT FREE THROW OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IN
THE STREETS.
THE SECOND IS TO ENSURE THE FREE FLOW OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON
THE SIDEWALKS.
AND THE THIRD IS TO CONTROL THE AESTHETIC APPEARANCE OF ALL THE
ACTIVITIES IN AND AROUND THE STADIUM PROPERTY.
AND WE BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE IS NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT
PURPOSE, THOSE PURPOSES, FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE TENT RESTRICTIONS, THAT REQUIRE THE TENTS TO
HAVE WALLS, AND WE BELIEVE THE SIGN RESTRICTIONS WHERE SIGNS ARE
PROHIBITED ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE TENTS, ARE NECESSARY TO REDUCE
IF NOT ELIMINATE THE VISUAL DISTRACTIONS THAT COULD EXHIBIT IN
AND AROUND THE STADIUM PROPERTY.
AS YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM MIKE KELLY, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF THE SUPER BOWL TASK FORCE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE -- THERE IS
GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIAL ACTIVITY ON THE STADIUM PROPERTY, NOT
JUST ON GAME DAY, BUT ON THE WEEKS PRECEDING THE SUPER BOWL, AND
THEN OF COURSE THE DAY AFTER THE SUPER BOWL WHEN THEY ARE
DISMANTLING.
THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASED VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
AND THESE RESTRICTIONS ON OUTDOOR ACTIVITY ON PROPERTY IN AND
AROUND THE STADIUM ARE NECESSARY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF VISUAL
DISTRACTIONS THERE WILL BE TO THE MOTORING PUBLIC.
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- AS WE ALL KNOW, DALE MABRY AND HIMES,
WHICH ARE THE TWO MANN NORTH SOUTH CORRIDORS WITHIN THE CLEAN
ZONE AREA CARRY A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF CARS JUST ON AN ORDINARY
DAY.
ON A BUCS GAME DAY, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, CARRY AN
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CARS.
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THEN, AS YOU WILL HEAR SOME NUMBERS FROM
MR. KELLY, HOW ON THE DAYS PRECEDING THE SUPER BOWL, AND ON THE
SUPER BOWL GAME DAY, THE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THE TRAFFIC
THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR IN AND AROUND THAT AREA, AND THEREFORE THE
NECESSITY TO LIMIT THE VISUAL DISTRACTIONS THAT MAY OCCUR IN AND
AROUND THAT PROPERTY.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE RESTRICTION ON THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY
IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE FREE FLOW OF
PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON THE SIDEWALKS, AND THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL
ACTIVITY THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO TARGET IS THE
SHOPPING CART VENDING ACTIVITY THAT SOMETIMES OCCURS DURING
THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
AND YOU CAN IMAGINE THE INCREASED NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS THAT YOU
ARE GOING TO HAVE OUTSIDE THE STADIUM IN AND AROUND THE GAME
TIME, AND THE WEEK PROCEEDING THE GAME.
THERE WILL BE LESS PARKING THAN ORDINARILY OCCURS ON THE STADIUM
PROPERTY.
THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN HIMES AND ALL THESE
WEST STREETS AS WELL, FOR THE WEEK BEFORE THE GAME AND DURING
GAME DAY.
AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE PATHWAYS, THE SIDEWALKS, BE
MAINTAINED IN A MANNER THAT IT ALLOWS THE FREE FLOW OF THE
PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.
IF WE HAVE SHOPPING CARTS OR OTHER KINDS EVER VENDORS, OR ANY
OTHER KIND OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, WHICH IS BLOCKING THE FLOW OF
THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A VERY DANGEROUS
SITUATION WHERE CROWDS OF PEOPLE WILL THEN STEP OUT INTO THE
STREET TO GO AROUND WHATEVER THE OBSTRUCTION IS.
AND FOR THAT REASON, WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROHIBITION FOR THE
COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY IS CRITICAL TO MAINTAIN
THE FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC ON THE SIDEWALK AREAS FOR ALL THE
PEDESTRIANS.
WE ALSO THINK THAT THE TENT AND THE SIGN RESTRICTIONS ACCOMPLISH
THE PURPOSE OF CONTROLLING THE AESTHETIC APPEARANCE IN AND
AROUND THE STADIUM.
THAT'S THE THIRD PURPOSE I REFERRED TO EARLIER.
WE THINK THE LIMITATIONS ON THE TENTS AND SIGNS WILL CONTROL THE
aesthetic APPEARANCE, AND WILL ENHANCE THE ADVISE APPEARANCE OF
THE PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE STADIUM DURING THIS EVENT.
AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MIKE, WHO IS GOING
TO GO OVER WITH YOU SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE
OCCURRING ON THE STADIUM PROPERTY ITSELF, AND ALSO PROVIDE TO
YOU SOME DATA REGARDING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPECTED AND THE
CROWDS, AND THE NUMBER OF CARS EXPECTED IN THE WEEK BEFORE THE
SUPER BOWL, AND ON THE GAME DAY.
>>> MIKE KELLY: I LIVE AT 1541 CORHETA DRIVE IN TAMPA.
I APPRECIATE BEING WITH YOU TODAY.
JUST TO DELIVER SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED.
OUR COMMUNITY WAS AWARDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOST SUPER BOWL 35
IN OCTOBER OF 1996 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BID DOCUMENT
THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THAT WAS CREATED IN CONSULTATION WITH THE
CITY WAS DELIVERED.
AND PART OF THE BID PREPARATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE
NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE IS AN ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO THE ONE YOU
HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS NOT A UNIQUE OR SUDDEN THING
THAT JUST CAME UPON US.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT OTHER EVENT ORGANIZERS, THAT NFL REQUIRES
OF HOST CITIES FOR EVERY SUPER BOWL, AND FOR INSTANCE THE NCAA,
WHERE WE CONDUCT THE FINAL FOUR IN ST. PETERSBURG LAST YEAR, THE
CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG HAD A VERY SIMILAR ORDINANCE.
CITY OF NEW ORLEANS FOR INSTANCE NEXT YEAR WITH THE SUPER BOWL
HAS DONE THE SAME THING SO IT'S NOT A UNIQUE THING.
IN FACT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED WHEN OUR BID WENT
THROUGH.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ON THE OVERHEAD IS SHARE SOME LOGISTICAL
TO POINT OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM A NORMAL
ACTIVITY AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM IN TERMS OF THE FLOW AND HOW
DISPLACED AREA THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO PARK ON NORMALLY WILL
CAUSE PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO FLOW FURTHER DISTANCE
IN GREATER QUANTITY.
GAME DAY ITSELF IS ON SUNDAY, JANUARY 28th.
THAT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST DAY OF ALL IN TERMS OF
THE AMOUNT OF CROWD.
WE ESTIMATE THROUGH NFL RESEARCH THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT
80,000 PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 65,000 SEATS IN THE STADIUM FOR
THE CURRENT EVENT, OBVIOUSLY PART OF OUR BID TO INCREASE THE
CAPACITY TO A LITTLE OVER 70,000, AND THERE TENDS TO BE A LOT OF
FOLKS THAT CAN CONGREGATE AROUND THE GAMES TO BE PART OF THE
FESTIVITIES AND ACTIVITIES.
SO CERTAINLY JUST ON GUAM DAY ITSELF THROWS A GREAT NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT WILL BE GREATER THAN WHAT WE ARE USUALLY ABLE TO
ACCOMMODATE ON A NORMAL GAME DAY.



WHAT YOU CAN ALSO SEE FROM THE DIAGRAM, SO MUCH OF WHAT WE WOULD
PROBABLY CALL THE RECTANGLE THAT I WOULD REFER TO AS TAMPA
SPORTS AUTHORITY PROPERTY, THAT WE USUALLY PARK AS MANY AS 8,000
VEHICLES FOR A NORMAL BUCCANEERS GAME, IS ALL BEING UTILIZED FOR
OTHER PURPOSES TO ACCOMMODATE THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY, WHETHER IT BE
MEDIA COMPOUNDS OR WHETHER IT BE THE MEDIA EXPERIENCE EVENT THAT
YOU SEE LISTED TO THE NORTH PART OF IT.
IT'S CERTAINLY DISPLACES A LOT OF THINGS AND REQUIRES THE
TRAFFIC PLAN AND THE PARKING PLAN TO GO TO AREAS WHERE WE
NORMALLY HAVE NOT HAD TO.
FOR INSTANCE, THERE SHOULD BE BECAUSE OF THAT DISPLACEMENT,
THERE SHOULD BE AS MUCH AS 20,000-PLUS PEOPLE THAT WILL TRAVEL
FROM THE WEST, COMING ACROSS DALE MABRY, CROSSING DALE MABRY AT
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD FOR PROCEED GAME AND POST GAME ACTIVITY.
WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION WITH TAMPA CENTER WILL CERTAINLY USE
FOR PARKING ONCE AGAIN.
THE TAMPA BAY INDUSTRIAL PARK WHICH IS NORMALLY NOT PARKING FOR
BUCCANEERS GAMES WILL HAVE AS MANY AS 4,000 VEHICLES PARK.
IT IS NOT AN AREA WHERE WE'VE TO CROSS TRAFFIC OVER THERE IN
THAT ONE CORNER.
OBVIOUSLY, EVERYWHERE IT'S PERMITTED, THERE WILL BE I ASSUME A
LOT OF PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG HIMES THAT OBVIOUSLY
WOULD ALSO HAVE A LOT OF INCREASED PEDESTRIAN FLOW GOING TO THE
STADIUM FOR THE ACTUAL GAME DAY ACTIVITY.
WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS THAT ARE SET UP THAT WILL HAVE
ACTIVITY WITH THE MEDIA WORKING OUT OF IT THAT YOU SEE ON THE
MAP.
YOU CAN EXPECT FROM THE COMPOUND TO THE SOUTH OF THE STADIUM THE
COMPOUND AIRPORT AUTHORITY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF DALE MABRY,
AND NFL EXPERIENCE WILL PROBABLY HAVE AS MANY AS 10,000 VISITORS
INDEPENDENTLY AT EACH EVENT, THAT IS COMING INTO AND HAVING TO
CROSS GETTING INTO THE STADIUM IN TERMS OF PRE-GAME ACTIVITIES
AND OTHER FUNCTIONS.
AND THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE GAME GOING BEYOND THE GAME DAY
ITSELF, THE MOST ACTIVITY WILL BE IN THE MEDIA COMPOUNDS, AND
THEN ALSO AT THE NFL EXPERIENCE EVENT THAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH
OF THE STADIUM.
THAT IS AN EVENT WHERE THE OVERALL EXPECTED ATTENDANCE OVER THE
COURSE OF THE WEEK SHOULD EXCEED 150,000, ABOUT 50,000 PEOPLE
BEING EXPECTED ON BOTH SATURDAYS, SATURDAY JANUARY 20th AND
SATURDAY JANUARY 27th IN TERMS OF AGAIN THE INCREASED TRAFFIC
AND PEDESTRIAN FLOW THAT WILL BE AROUND THE STADIUM AT THAT
PARTICULAR TIME.
SO THE REASON FOR THE EXTENSION OF TIME AND THE ACTIVITY THAT
WILL BE SURROUNDING THE GREATER PART OF THE STADIUM.
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE NFL EXPERIENCE EVENT, WHILE IT
IS IN THE -- SINCE IT IS IN THE EXEMPTED ZONE THAT WE REQUESTED,
THE NFL EXPERIENCE AND THE ADMISSIONS FROM THAT ARE NOT A PROFIT
MAKING VENTURE FOR THE NFL BUT RATHER THE ADMISSION PRICES GO
INTO THE NFL CHARITIES FUND WHICH HAS ALREADY CREATED THE $1
MILLION DONATION THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE
USE, EDUCATION OF TOWN PROJECTS THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH.



SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
THAT ACTIVITY AGAIN OPENS ON SATURDAY, JANUARY 20th, WILL
CONTINUE EVERY DAY UP UNTIL GAME DAY ITSELF.
SO THERE WILL BE A CONSIDERABLE ACTIVITY AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST, AS COMPLIANCE TO THE BID DOCUMENTS, DO
CERTAINLY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO HOST SUPER BOWL IN THE FUTURE
AND EVENT OF MORE MAGNITUDE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7, PAGE 2?
YES, SIR.
>> I AM JEFF ROSE, 3416 DOUGLAS STREET.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT ISSUE.
I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS.
A LOT OF THEM I JUST HAD ANSWERED BUT THERE ARE THINGS I THINK
NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON THIS.
NOW PARKING FOR ONE THING, EVERYBODY ON MY STREET PARKS CARS IN
THEIR YARDS.
IS THIS NOT CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN THE STREET?
IS THAT GOING TO BE ILLEGAL?
ARE THIS POLICE GOING TO BLOCK MY STREET OFF?
I'M OPPOSED TO THIS WHOLE THING.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE NFL SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN
DO IN MY YARD OR NOT.
AND I HEARD A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW
YESTERDAY.
I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE EVEN ELECTED THE PRESIDENT.
BUT I THINK I NEED TO GET SOME FOR ME.
EVERYBODY ON THAT WHOLE STRIP OF LAND THAT THEY ARE CLOSING OFF,
I'M SURE NOBODY WANTS TO PUT UP RESTAURANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LISTED ABOUT PARKING.
AND THAT'S GOT ME WORRIED.
AND WHAT IF I WANT TO HANG BUCCANEERS FLAGS ON MY HOUSE?
IS THAT ILLEGAL?
I DON'T KNOW.
DO I HAVE TO TAKE MY CHRISTMAS LIGHTS DOWN FOR THE DAY THAT IT
STARTS?
AND IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.
I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SPECIFIC.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS.
FIRST OF ALL, THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
I DIDN'T EVEN PUT THEM UP SO I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM
DOWN.
NOT THAT I'M AGAINST CHRISTMAS.
I THINK IT'S A LITTLE OVER COMMERCIALIZED BUT OTHER THAN THAT
IT'S ALL RIGHT.
>>> I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AS FAR AS PARKING ON YOUR LAWN, I DON'T KNOW
OF ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM



PARKING CARS ON YOUR LAWN.
THAT I KNOW OF.
AND I'LL VERIFY THIS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD AT ALL PROHIBIT THE GENTLEMAN FROM
PARKING CARS ON HIS LAWN?
>>GINA GRIMES: THERE'S A PROVISION AS YOU KNOW IN THE ZONING
CODE THAT DEALS WITH PARKING OF VEHICLES ON THE AREA IN AND
AROUND THE STADIUM PROPERTY.
AND THAT PROVISION IN THE ZONING CODE, THAT PERMISSION IN THE
ZONING CODE, IS NOT BEING AFFECTED AT ALL BY THIS ORDINANCE.
IN FACT THE ORDINANCE SAYS THAT.
THE PERMITTED AND SPECIAL USES ALLOWED IN THE AREA ARE AS
PROVIDED IN THE CITY CODE.
THERE IS NOTHING TO PROHIBIT THAT.
TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYTHING IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY UNDER THE
ZONING CODE, UNLESS IT'S SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN HERE, IT WILL
CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SEE IF I CAN ADDRESS THIS.
TO MY RECOLLECTION.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU CAN VERIFY THIS AND CORRECT ME IF I
AM WRONG -- THAT CHANGED THE PROCEDURES, AND THAT NO ONE WAS
GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO PARK ON RIGHTS-OF-WAY OR LAWNS OR WHAT
HAVE YOU.
THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TOOK THAT UP.
AND I FORGOT EXACTLY WHAT THE VOTE WAS.
BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EVEN UNANIMOUS.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH THAT PROVISION TO EXCLUDE THOSE THINGS
FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN THERE'S
EVENTS -- AND DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FOOTBALL -- WHEN
THERE ARE EVENTS AT THE STADIUM COME UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF
QUALITY OF LIFE, MEANING YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF YOUR HOUSE WHEN
YOU WANT TO, AND YOU CAN'T COME INTO YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU WANT
TO.
>>> EXACTLY.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAMPA BAY IS CLOSED AT LOIS.
THERE IS NO -- AND FROM TAMPA BAY SOUTH, YOU CAN ONLY GO EAST
FROM PERTINENT AREAS THERE ON GLENN AND SO FORTH, YOU CAN'T TURN
RIGHT.
COLUMBUS DRIVE IS CLOSED WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT-HAND
TURN HEADING SOUTH.
THERE IS NO TURNING DURING DIFFERENT HOURS.
(BELL SOUNDS)
AGAIN YOU BUZZED MYSELF.
THAT'S TWO.
ONE MORE AND I STRIKE OUT.
TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, DR. MLK BOULEVARD, AND COLUMBUS DRIVE, YOU
CAN'T MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN.
SO IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET WHERE YOU WANT TO GO ON 3400 BLOCK OF
DOUGLAS, YOU EITHER GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY AVENUE, COME UP HABANA OR ARMENIA AND COME IN THE BACK
WAY, OR YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY SOUTH, PAST THE K-MART
PROPERTY AND FIND THE FIRST STREET WHICH IS EITHER BEACH OR



PALMETTO AND MAKE A LEFT TO COME AROUND.
THEN YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HAND WHEN YOU CROSS
HIMES AVENUE.
>>> ACTUALLY FOR YOUR INFORMATION THE ARMENIA WAY IS THE BEST
WAY.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVEN'T TIMED THEM.
I HAVE BEEN BOTH OF THEM.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO, "A", I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO YOUR PARKING ON
YOUR LAND.
THE COUNCIL TOOK CARE OF THAT.
THERE WAS A PROVISION THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT, THAT WAS NOT
ADDRESSED IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, AND THAT WAS AN ORDINANCE
THAT PROHIBITED PARKING ON LOTS THAT DID NOT HAVE AN ATTACHED
DWELLING, OR A LIVABLE UNIT TO THAT.
SOMETIME BACK ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THE INDIVIDUALS STARTED
LOOKING AT THAT.
MR. THOM SNELLING AND OTHERS.
AND THEY HAVE COME UP WITH 43 LOTS THAT ARE IN THE SURROUNDING
PROPERTY, OR IN THE DESIGNATED AREA, THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW
MANY THERE WERE.
IT WAS JUST A BLANKET ORDINANCE.
THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH LOCATION BY ACTUAL MARKINGS OF
THOSE LOTS.
THEY ARE NOW WORKING UP TO IDENTIFY THE OWNERS OF THOSE LOTS.
THE OWNERS OF THOSE LOTS WOULD ALL BE NOTIFIED SOMETIME IN
FEBRUARY, I WOULD IMAGINE.
AND THERE WILL BE A TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE THOSE OWNERS AND THE
CITY, SO THAT SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT, SO THAT WEST TAMPA
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SLUSHVILLE.
>>> LIKE A GARBAGE DUMP.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXACTLY RIGHT.
THERE WILL BE GARBAGE PICKED UP AT A CERTAIN TIME JUST LIKE YOU
AND TAKE OUR GARBAGE CAN OUT THAT EVENING.
IT WILL BE BROUGHT IN BEFORE SUNDOWN THE NEXT DAY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE PROVISION.
SOME OF THOSE STREETS AS YOU WELL KNOW, NOT DOUGLAS BUT TO THE
NORTH OF YOU, ARE VERY NARROW, 14, 15, 16, 18 FEET WIDE.
THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
IN FACT THERE ARE SOME DITCHES.
SO YOU HAVE TO WALK ON THE STREET.
THAT ORDINANCE WILL ADDRESS WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, THERE WILL
BE ABOUT A 5-FOOT BUFFER SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO
AND FROM THE EVENTS AT THE STADIUM CAN WALK ON THAT INSTEAD OF
HAVING TO WALK ON THE STREET.
AND THE THIRD ONE IS ONE THAT'S SOMEWHAT TROUBLING TO SOME OF
THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT THERE WILL BE NO USE OF PORTOLETS ON
THOSE PROPERTIES.
WEST TAMPA IS NOT A CIRCUS ATMOSPHERE.
THERE'S GOOD NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE THERE LIKE YOURSELF.
SO THAT WILL NOT BE PROHIBITED I AM TOLD UNDER THE NEW PROPOSAL,
WHICH HASN'T ARRIVED HERE.



BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, YOU CAN CONTINUE DOING
WHAT YOU ARE DOING, OTHER THAN IF YOU HAD A HOTDOG STAND OR
SOMETHING IN THE SIDEWALK, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE DOUGLAS HAS A
SIDEWALK, IF I RECALL.
>>> NO.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU COULDN'T PUT IT THERE.
THE BANNERS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS OPPOSED TO YOU.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO HANG ON YOUR HOUSE.
>>> WELL, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IT'S NOT SPELLED OUT.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.
THE POLICE COME DOWN AND PUT BARRICADES UP AT THE OTHER END ON
GLENN, IT'S TOO LATE THEN.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IT SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAW.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDRESSING TO THAT
DIRECTLY?
>>GRIMES: YOU REFER BACK TO THE EXISTING CITY CODE THAT ALLOWS
THOSE KINDS OF BANNERS AND PENNANTS.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THAT IS
SUPERSEDED BY THE RESTRICTIONS IN THIS ORDINANCE.
THE SIGN RESTRICTIONS IN THIS ORDINANCE REALLY JUST DEAL WITH
THE TYPES OF SIGNS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE TENTS.
IT DOES HAVE A SEPARATE PROHIBITION DEALING WITH STREAMERS,
PENNANTS, BANNERS, INFLATABLES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
BALLOONS, OR SIMILAR TEMPORARY SIGNAGE VISIBLE FROM A STREET
RIGHT-OF-WAY IS PROHIBITED WITHIN THE CODE.
THAT IS NOT ALREADY ALLOWED UNDER THE EXISTING CODE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I SAW ON THE MAP EARLIER THAT MR. KELLY
PUT UP THERE IS GOING TO BE A PREMIUM FOR PARKING OTHER THAN IN
THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT USED FOR PARKING BECAUSE THOSE
PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR OTHER MEANS IF I REMEMBER
CORRECTLY LOOKING AT THAT MAP.
SO IN YOUR LOT I WOULD IMAGINE THE NORMAL CHARGE IS ANYWHERE
FROM 5 TO $10.
>>> $15 PARKING.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE THE RATE
STRUCTURE FOR YOU.
BUT THAT $15 -- THAT $15 RATE MAY GO UP TO 30 BECAUSE PARKING IS
GOING TO BE AT A PREMIUM.
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
SO THAT'S -- IN FACT, COLLECT YOUR CAR TWO BLOCKS AWAY, COLLECT
15, THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.
AND I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR DOING THAT.
BUT THOSE ARE THINGS I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE -- IT MIGHT
BE TROUBLESOME TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS NOW BECAUSE IT'S ALL
COMING ALTOGETHER.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT THE CITY IS OUT TO HURT YOU, ANY ONE
OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.
IF THE CITY REALLY WANTED TO DO THAT, ON EVERY RIGHT-OF-WAY
PARKING, THEY WOULD PULL THE CARS.
THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT.
BECAUSE IF THEY STARTED TO DO THAT, WE STOPPED THAT TWO YEARS
AGO.



SO WE TRIED TO WORK THE BEST WE CAN.
BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU HAVE TO PAY A
PREMIUM QUALITY OF LIFE THAT YOU CAN'T GO SOMEWHERE WHEN YOU
WANT TO GO.
>>> AND IF YOU CAN DO ME A FAVOR AND CANCEL THE MONSTER TRUCK
PULL FOREVER.
I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT'S THE WORST ONE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN UNDERSTAND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERN, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO SPEAK?
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO STEVE AND FILE BY MRS. MILLER
SECONDED BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>> I HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THAT ACCEPTABLE IN THIS?
>>JAMES PALERMO: YES.
SAUL-SENA SAUCE SAM MOSS.
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE.
YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
MOTION BY MRS. SAUL-SENA.
SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>> LARRY STROSIES.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING A LOT OF PETITIONERS OUT IN THE HIMES AREA
EAST OF HIMES ALONG THE CLEAN ZONE AREA.
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE NOW BEEN ANSWERED.
ONE OF THE KEY QUESTIONS, THOUGH, THAT STILL IS NOT ANSWERED IS,
WILL THE RESIDENTS BE ALLOWED TO PUT A SIGN THAT SAYS PARKING
HERE?
THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED.
THEN ALSO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IS THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING EAST AND WEST, EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT
THE SIDEWALKS GOING NORTH AND SOUTH ON HIMES.
BUT THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS GOING EAST AND WEST.
IN PARTICULAR A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF RAMONE DIAZ, 82 YEARS
OLD, HALF BLIND, CRIPPLED, SAYS I HAVE A FENCE OUTSIDE, THEY
STILL COME WALKING THROUGH MY LAWN, THEY THROW TRASH IN MY YARD,
I HAVE TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME AND CLEAN UP THIS TRASH, AND HE
SAID, WHERE IN THE CLEAN ZONE DOES IT SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO
CLEAN UP AFTER THE SUPER BOWL?
AND NOT JUST GOING TO CLEAN UP IN THE EXEMPT ZONE, OR NOT JUST
CLEAN UP ON THE SPORTS AUTHORITY, BUT WHO IS GOING TO CLEAN UP
EVERY SINGLE DAY THE TRASH THAT GETS DUMPED ON THOSE PEOPLE'S
YARDS?
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD LIKE ANSWERED.
AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WASN'T COMPLETELY ANSWERED WAS ONE
MR. ROSE SAID, WILL THERE BE BARRICADES ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
OF THE STREET?
IF THERE ARE BARRICADES ALONG THIS SIDE OF THE STREET THAT WILL



PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING IN THAT AREA.
IF THERE ARE BARRICADES PREVENTING FROM PEOPLE MOVING NORTH AND
SOUTH ON HIMES, THAT WILL PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING ALONG
THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
THE CONCERN IS OBVIOUS.
IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT ANYONE IS OPPOSED TO THE SUPERINTENDENTS
-- SUPER BOWL OR ANYONE WANTS TO CREATE ANY TYPE OF NEGATIVE
INFLUENCE.
WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IS FAIRNESS.
THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, MOST OF THEM ARE ESPANOL.
(SPEAKING SPANISH)
YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE A MEETING COMING UP IN
FEBRUARY.
I THINK TO THE INTEREST OF THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT
WOULD BEHOOVE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEND OUT THOSE NOTICES IN
SPANISH.
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE, AS YOU, MR. MIRANDA, WHO LIVED
THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY SPEAK SPANISH.
AND A LOT OF THE OLDER PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE THIS, THEY DON'T
UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS IN ENGLISH.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A SPANISH INTERPRETATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER JUST AREA.
THEN ONE OTHER AREA THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE
HAVE THIS CLEAN ZONE.
AN EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL THE CLEAN ZONE IS.
BUT THERE IS ONE VERY BIG PROBLEM WITH THE CLEAN ZONE-S THAT
THERE'S A LITTLE AREA --.
(BELL SOUNDS)
THESE AREAS HERE, THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE CLEAN ZONE.
THEY CAN'T HAVE BANNERS, FLIERS, COOKOUTS, TENTS, WHATEVER.
AND THERE ARE THEY ARE GOING TO GET CLEANED UP AFTER.
WHO IS GOING TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO COME WALKING ON
THE STREETS EAST AND WEST?
AND WILL YOU HAVE THE CITY PROVIDE SIGNS FOR THE PEOPLE?
THAT WAY THEY CAN HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS PARKING.
A UNIFIED, NICE LOOKING SIGN.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ADDRESS THAT.
STOP THE CLOCK.
FIRST OF ALL THE CITY IS NOT IN THE PARKING BUSINESS AROUND THE
STADIUM.
DO WE HAVE SIGNS THERE NOW?
>>> AT THE MOMENT THE SIGNS ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY.
THEY ARE SIGNS GENERATED BY THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE.
AND ACCORDING TO THIS ORDINANCE THERE IS A LIMITATION ON HOW THE
SIGNS MUST APPEAR, WHAT THEY MUST LOOK LIKE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I NOTICE AND I LIVE IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD, I ALWAYS NOTICE AN INDIVIDUAL STANDING IN FRONT OF
THEIR PROPERTY SAYING, (WHISTLE), TO ME THAT'S A SIGN, A LIVING
SIGN.
A SIGN THAT MOVES, THAT TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO, WHICH WAY YOU ARE
GOING AND WHICH DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO.
IT'S BETTER, IN MY OPINION -- I SEE THIS ALL THE TIME THERE.



HAVE YOU SEEN THAT?
>>> YES, I HAVE SEEN THAT.
I HAVE ALSO SEEN THE SIGNS.
AS MISS HERNANDEZ SAYS, SHE SAID SPECIFICALLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE
A SIGN HERE THAT SAYS PARKING BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE
COLD.
I DON'T WANT TO BE OUTSIDE TOO MUCH.
WILL MY SIGN BE RESTRICTED?
AND IS THE CITY IN A POSITION TO GIVE THE SIGNS TO PEOPLE?
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO HAND OUT SIGNS.
>>> LET ME SAY, BUT THE CITY COULD NEGOTIATE WITH THE SUPER
BOWL, THE NFL, TO PROVIDE THOSE RESIDENTS SIGNS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I AM NOT GOING TO DEBATE THIS.
THIS IS THE LAST THING I AM GOING TO SAY.
THIS COUNCIL DID NOT, AND NO GOVERNMENT GOT INVOLVED DIRECTLY
WITH THE SUPER BOWL.
IT WAS ANOTHER BODY THAT WAS FORMED AND CALLED THE SUPER BOWL
COMMITTEE THAT DID THIS, WHEN THE SUPER BOWL SELECTED TAMPA AS
PART OF THEIR NEGOTIATION WITH THIS CITY, AND WITH OTHER CITIES,
AND THERE'S BEEN SUPER BOWLS HELD HERE BEFORE, IN THE SAME
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE SAME PEOPLE LIVING THERE, AND THAT I
REMEMBER.
I DON'T REMEMBER ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING TODAY THAT
ANYBODY GOT TAKEN OTHER THAN PARKING CARS IN THEIR FRONT LAWN.
NOT EVERYONE THEN DID I REMEMBER THAT, THE LAST SUPER BOWL.
AND I WAS AROUND.
SO NOW WE ARE SUPPOSING THERE ARE GOING TO BE PROBLEMS THAT DO
NOT EXIST IN MY VIEW BECAUSE THAT ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS ANY
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.
>>> IT DOESN'T CONCERN THE FACT THAT THERE'S SIGN RESTRICTIONS.
YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT IT DOES NOT SAY IN HERE HOW THE CITY IS
GOING TO CLEAN UP FOR THOSE PEOPLE, IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT
THOSE PEOPLE, SOMEHOW IF IT'S BENEFITING THE CITY SUPPOSEDLY
HERE, IT SAYS IT'S BENEFITING THE CITY.
BUT YET WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 5,000 VOLUNTEERS, INSTEAD OF 5,000
EMPLOYEES.
NOW, VOLUNTEERS --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAIT.
I AM NOT GOING TO DEBATE YOU.
>>> VERY WELL.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STOP THE CLOCK AND -- START THE CLOCK AND
SPEAK.
HIS TIME IS UP.
>>> I JUST WANT THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ANSWERED THEM TO THE BEST OF MY
ABILITY.
NO, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO GIVE OUT SIGNS, "A".
"B", WE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE LAST SUPER BOWL THAT I
REMEMBER.
"C", I SEE INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR OWN BLOCK CONDUCTING WHAT I CALL
BUSINESS ON THAT YOU ARE OWN BY BEING THAT YOU ARE OWN MANAGER
AND PROVIDING THE PARKING LOCATION, BY SAYING, I HAVE THIS



AVAILABLE, AND MOST OF THOSE HAVE HAD CUSTOMERS FOR THE LAST 20
YEARS.
NOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT THESE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING THE STADIUM AND
THE OWNERS OF THOSE VENUES WITH MONEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE
ALLOWED TO HAVE TICKETS TO GO.
I GRANT YOU THAT.
THAT MUCH I GRANT.
BUT THERE WILL BE THOSE SAME OWNERS DIRECTING THE SAME TRAFFIC,
GOING TO THE SAME LOCATION, TO PARK THE SAME CAR, AT A MUCH
HIGHER RATE.
I'M JUST MAKING A STATEMENT.
>>> P.O. BOX 699 SEFFNER, FLORIDA.
PROPERTY RIGHTS ADVOCATE. ALSO SOON TO BE THE STATE OF
FLORIDA'S ADVOCATE FOR PROPERTY RIGHTS.
AND AFTER THAT NATIONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO WE ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT TAKING PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY
RIGHTS FROM THEM IN THE 14th AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION.
WE ARE HAVING BIG PROBLEMS AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS JUST A
SAMPLE.
I AM NOT GOING TO PLAY ALL THESE TAPES FOR YOU.
BUT I GOT OVER A THOUSAND TAPES OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS.
I GO WAY BACK TO WHAT THIS CITY OF TAMPA AND CITY COUNCIL HAS
DONE TO THE PEOPLE AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THIS AREA.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU AT THIS TIME TO RECEIVE AND FILE
8 COPIES OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
I'D LICK TO HAVE YOU RECEIVE THEM AT THIS TIME IF YOU WOULD.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: SO MOVED.
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: SECOND.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
THE WITNESS: I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, 5-1.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: I VOTED NO.
>>> WE HEARD CONSTITUTIONAL MENTIONED OVER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF TIMES AND THERE IS RIGHTS IN THIS CONSTITUTION FOR PEOPLE.
THE LAW I SEE YOU ARE PUTTING, THE ORDINANCE YOU ARE PUTTING ON
HERE NOW I SEE IS SELECTIVE IN NATURE.
IT'S NOT COVERED BY ALL.
IT'S A SELECTIVE ORDINANCE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO HERE AND SOMEBODY
TO ANSWER ME THIS, MR. PALERMO REPRESENTS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH,
THE MAYOR.
HE'S ALSO REPRESENTING THIS BRANCH, THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.
HE'S WEARING TOO MANY HATS.
HE'S AN ATTORNEY.
SO HE COVERS THE JUDICIARY ALSO.
SO WE NEED TO GET THAT CLEARED UP REAL QUICK, BECAUSE THAT'S
HURTING TRUST OF THE PEOPLE TO THIS COUNCIL TO RENDER DECISIONS.
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR OWN ATTORNEY.



GOING BACK TO THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN HERE.
IT IS SELECTIVE IN NATURE.
AND YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL THROUGH AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN
AROUND, AND LUCKILY I DID HAVE A SMALL SCOPE, BUT IT DOESN'T
AFFECT MY LONG-TERM MEMORY, JUST SHORT-PERIOD MEMORY, BUT I'M
STILL KICKING AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS.
AND SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY EMPTY SEATS IN THIS AUDITORIUM NOW WE
HAVE PUT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION CALLED CYBER CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE,
CCFJ.ORG.
PULL IT UP.
BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE ANYMORE, GET
THEIR REWARD OF AN $11 TICKET BECAUSE YOU PUT PARKING METERS
AROUND THIS GOVERNMENT BUILDING.
THEY SHOULD ALL BE EXTRACTED.
GET RID OF THE METERS.
THIS IS A PEOPLE'S BUILDING.
BUT YOU HAVE TURNED IT AROUND AND I'M SO GLAD WE HAD THIS LITTLE
VOTE PROBLEM DOWN HERE BECAUSE NOW THE CONSTITUTION IS COMING TO
THE FOREBURNER AND WE ARE GOING TO -- WE GOT COMING ACROSS LEFT
AND RIGHT THAT WANTS JUSTICE IN AMERICA.
THEY JUST WANT EQUAL LAWS FOR ALL.
AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT HAPPENING, AND THEY CONTINUE TO CONDEMN THE PEOPLE FOR
HAVING TO LIVE IN THEM AREAS.
THEN YOU GO OFFER THEM A DOLLAR A SQUARE FOOT FOR THEIR
PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG.
YOU KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING THE SAME THING,
SELECTIVE POLICE ENFORCEMENT.
EVERYBODY IN GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING FOR THE
SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE ONLY.
NOT FOR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.
NOT FOR ANYTHING.
YOU FOLKS ALL KNOW THAT I GOT THE EVIDENCE.
I'VE BEEN COLLECTING AND COLLECTING AND COLLECTING.
AND WHATEVER HAT I HAVE TO WEAR, I WILL CREATE IT AND GET IT.
JUST LIKE THE RABBIT IN THE NORTH.
YOU GOT TO TURN WHITE IN THE WINTER AND BROWN IN THE SUMMER TO
SURVIVE.
SHAME ON YOU.
(BELL SOUNDS)
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LIKE THE HAT YOU HAVE ON TODAY.
>>> YES, APPRECIATE THAT.
EXPENSIVE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHY I CAN'T AFFORD ONE.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 7, PAGE 3?
YES, SIR.
>>> 7326 GIBSONTON DRIVE, GIBSONTON, FLORIDA.
JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
MR. KELLY CAN DID MENTION THAT THERE'S ORDINANCES IN I BELIEVE
ST. PETE AND NEW ORLEANS SIMILAR TO THIS.



WELL, I GOT A LICENSE TO WORK BY THE STATE AND NOWHERE IN NEW
ORLEANS OR ST. PETE DID THEY TAKE THE LITTLE MAN, THAT'S ALWAYS
ALLOWED TO WORK AROUND THE STADIUM, AND TELL HIM HE COULDN'T
JUST FOR ELEVEN DAYS.
THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA GO TO 8 BUCS GAMES A YEAR PLUS PLAYOFFS AND
THEY GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THE STADIUM IS RUN.
I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE NUMEROUS SUPER BOWLS, WORLD
SERIES, FINAL FOURS, ET CETERA, AND JUST STOPPED A LITTLE KID
FROM SELLING HIS PEANUTS OR STOPPING THE PEOPLE WITH THE
SHOPPING CARTS IS WRONG.
NO ONE IS MORE EXPERIENCED WITH SHOPPING CARTS THAN THE CITY OF
NEW ORLEANS.
THEY LICENSE THEM FOR THE BIGGEST EVENT OF THE YEAR WHICH IS
CALLED THE MARDI GRAS WHICH DRAWS A LOT MORE THAN 80,000 PEOPLE.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE LITTLE MAN THAT'S GOT A COUNTY LICENSE,
SAYS I CAN GRAB A BAG OF PEANUTS OR COCA-COLAS AND SELL THEM
OUTSIDE THE STADIUM, THAT THESE PEOPLE WANT ME NOT TO DO BUT YET
THE NFL CAN DO IT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I ASK, IS THAT FAIR?
IS THAT RIGHT?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. McNEIL.
THANKS.
NEXT.
>>> DARRYL WEAVER.
I OWN PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE STADIUM.
TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, 407 HIMES.
I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SUBMIT A LETTER FROM AN JOINING PROPERTY
OWNER.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION BY MRS. FERLITA TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
SECOND BY MR. HARRISON.
FURTHER DISCUSSION?
DO YOU WANT THE LETTER BACK?
>>> HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT READ.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MRS. SAUL-SENA, WOULD YOU READ THE LETTER?
>>LINDA SAUL-SENA: I OWN PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3427 WEST TAMPA
BOULEVARD.
PLEASE FIND THIS CORRESPONDENCE IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR PROPOSED
ORDINANCE WITH REGARD TO A CLEAN ZONE IN AND ABOUT RAYMOND JAMES
STADIUM AREA.
THIS TEMPORARY TAKING FAILS TO CONSIDER THOSE WHO, NOW IN EXCESS
OF ONE YEAR, PLAN TO ENGAGE IN THEIR COTTAGE INDUSTRIES IN AN
EFFORT TO BETTER THEIR PROPERTIES, SURROUNDINGS AND FAMILIES.
THIS ENACTMENT WHICH IS NO MORE THAN A BACK ROOM PANDERING TO
MAJOR CORPORATE INTERESTS FAILS TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT ON THOSE
LESS INFLUENTIAL, YET MORE ENTITLED.
THE PLAN IN ITS ENTIRETY IS FLAWED AND LIKELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL
AS A RESULT OF THE FEES IMPOSED ON THIS TEMPORARY TAKING.
ANY ACTION TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN WILL SURELY RESULT IN MOTIONS
SEEKING INJUNCTIVE RELIEF WHICH AGAIN INDIRECTLY IMPOSES A
FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE TAX PAYING PUBLIC AS OPPOSED TO THE MEGA



CORPORATIONS WHO ARE LOBBYING THIS ENDEAVOR.
IT IS PARENT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD IN ESSENCE BE INTERFERING
WITH PENDING CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS, AND WOULD SURELY WITH
MINIMAL NOTICE SUBJECT THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH INTENTIONS TO
CONTRACT LEASE OR OPERATE IN THEIR OPERATIONS, IN THAT YOU ARE
LOCATIONS, TO DAMAGES FOR BREECH OF CONTRACT, AND PARTICIPATORY
BREECH OF CONTRACT AND OTHER ACTIONS WHICH WOULD CONCEIVABLY BE
STYLED IN CONVERSION.
YOU TRUST THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THESE ISSUES AS WELL AS
THE MULTITUDE OF ADDITIONAL ARGUMENTS PRESENTED IN YOUR
DELIBERATIONS AND ULTIMATELY FOR THE PASSING OF THIS ORDINANCE.
SINCERELY, SCOTT B. TALANS.
>>> THAT'S ON BEHALF OF HIS PROPERTY.
I OWN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AROUND THE CORNER, 407 HIMES AS I
MENTIONED.
FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT I FIND IT SOMEWHAT DISTURBING THE
NFL AND MR. KELLY HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS CLEAN ZONE ITEM NOW FOR
FIVE YEARS, I GUESS, AND NOW WE ARE 30 DAYS BEFORE THE SUPER
BOWL AND WOE DECIDE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE RULES.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.
WHY DO WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL TO IMPOSE THE
CLEAN ZONE ORDINANCE?
THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
WE RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATION AS PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT THIS AT
ALL.
ZERO.
NO NOTIFICATIONS.
RECEIVED NO COPIED OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ARE FIXED INCOME,
RETIREES, SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE THAT NEVER GET OUT OF THEIR
HOUSES.
THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS.
WAS IT EVER PUBLISHED IN SPANISH?
ANOTHER QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE QUESTIONS LATER AND GET THE
ANSWERS.
MRS. MILLER, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND PRIOR COMMENTS ABOUT
WHAT'S FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.
AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE HIMES AND DALE MABRY AREA WAS
SEVERELY ALTERED ON THE OPENING OF RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
LIKE YOU PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM BUT THEIR
TRUE BURDEN FAR EXCEEDS THEIR ANNUAL TAX ASSESSMENT.
DURING ALL STADIUM EVENTS WE ARE INUNDATED WITH UNWANTED GUEST
PARKING, LOITER, URINATING ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO CONTEND WITH DRUNKS AND DISORDERLIES AT ALL
TIMES.
WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM ACCESSING OUR PROPERTIES WITH ANY SENSE
OF REASONABLENESS AND ARE REQUIRED -- THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES HAS
BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY COMPROMISED AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY REMAINS
OUR ONLY SAVIOR IN AN ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE AND SALVAGE SOME



DEGREE OF VALUE FROM OUR PROPERTIES. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
CHALLENGES OUR ABILITY TO UNDERTAKE THESE ACTIVITIES.
AS YOU ARE AWARE THE MAJORITY OF VENUES HELD AT RAYMOND JAMES
STADIUM AND IN PARTICULARLY THE SUPER BOWL CATER TO THE RICH AND
PRIVILEGED, CLEARLY NOT INTENDED AND WELL BEYOND THE REGION OF
MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, YET
IRRESPECTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S GENERAL LACK OF PARTICIPATION
AND ATTENDANCE AT THESE EVENTS.
WE ARE INUNDATED WITH ALL THE INCONVENIENCES NOW SUBJECT TO
UNREASONABLE RESTRICTIONS OF HOW TO UTILIZE OUR PROPERTY.
I FIND THE TIMING OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE INTRUSIVE,
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND ECONOMICALLY DAMAGING.
I ALSO FIND IT BLATANTLY PREJUDICED IN FAVOR OF THE NFL AND ITS
ELITE ATTENDEES.
THE CLEAN ZONE EXCLUDES SOME.
YOUR PROPOSED PENALTIES AND FINES INCLUDING JAIL TIME, CLEARLY
EXCEEDS STATUTORY GUIDELINES.
AND FINALLY THE TIMING OF THIS HEARING AND THE LACK OF
NOTIFICATION IS CLEARLY AN EFFORT TO CIRCUMVENT AND IMPAIR
LEGITIMATE AND COHESIVE EFFORT BY EFFECTED PROPERTY OWN TOWERS
FIGHT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
I ASSUME THAT THIS PLAN TO IMPOSE THE CLEAN ZONE WAS DISCUSSED
WELL IN ADVANCE OF 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE SUPER BOWL AND AGAIN WE
HAVE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED IT WAS DISCUSSED FIVE YEARS AGO.
IN MY OPINION THE TIMING OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN ITSELF IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN MY PROPERTY OVER ON HIMES
BOULEVARD, AND I HAVE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS FROM
THIRD PARTIES TO RENT MY PROPERTY DURING THE SUPER BOWL.
YOUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE SEVERELY COMPROMISED OUR RIGHTS AS
PROPERTY OWNERS AND IMPAIRS OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANCE OF
SALVAGING ANY MATERIAL COMPENSATION FOR OUR CONVENIENCE AS
NEIGHBORS TO RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
THE APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL CLEARLY RESULT IN
SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DAMAGE AS IT PERTAINS TO ME, MY NEIGHBORS
AND NUMEROUS THIRD PARTY VENDORS THAT HAD NEGOTIATED, COMMITTED
IN GOOD FAITH.
I CONCUR AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOUR ATTEMPT TO CONTROL
ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS ON PUBLIC LAND AND RIGHTS-OF-WAY.
I AM VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO YOUR ATTEMPT TO ADVERSELY ALTER AND
DICTATES THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS WITH A NEW SET OF RULES
THIS LATE IN THE GAME.
THE CONCEPT OF THE CLEAN ZONE SURROUNDING WHAT COULD BE
CHARACTERIZED AS THE LARGEST AND MOST INTRUSIVE NIGHTCLUB IN THE
COUNTY CLEARLY QUALIFIERS -- WHICH CLEARLY QUALIFIES THE LARGEST
PURVEYOR OF ALCOHOL IS IN ITSELF CONTRADICTORY.
WHILE --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, I AM GOING TO STOP YOU RIGHT
HERE.
WE HAVE GONE WAY OVER YOUR THREE MINUTES.
I HAVE ALLOWED YOU.
YOU CONTINUE TO READ.



AND HOW LONG MORE DO YOU NEED?
>>> I HAVE ONE FINAL PARAGRAPH AND AYE DONE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, SIR.
>>> CONSTRUCTION OF RAYMOND JAMES CHALLENGED THE INTEGRITY AND
CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE
WHICH SIGNIFICANT SUPER BOWL SPONSORS AND ATTENDEES IS MATERIAL
TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ON BEHALF OF THE CLEAN ZONE I ASK YOUR SUPPORT IN THE PROPOSED
ORDINANCE.
I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THESE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO THE
QUESTIONS.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO START ANSWERING SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
FIRST OF ALL BECAUSE YOU ARE HISPANIC DOESN'T MEAN YOU STAY IN
YOUR HOUSE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
IT'S ON THE TAPE.
MANY OF THEM DO NOT STAY IN THE HOME BECAUSE YOU ARE HISPANIC
YOU ARE NOT STUPID.
YOU CERTAINLY HAVE -- I'M NOT SAYING THAT BUT I AM GOING TO TELL
YOU HOW IT CAME OFF.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE AT ANY TIME YOU WANT.
TOUGH RIGHT TO SHOP ANYWHERE YOU WANT.
THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.
AND MOST OF THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH
LANGUAGE 100%, CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE READING OF IT.
THEY HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY OWN FAMILY, EVERYONE THOSE THAT ARE
IN THE 80s UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO THERE'S SOME SMALL AMOUNT THAT DO NOT.
I WANT TO GO ADDRESS THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RENTALS AND PROPERTIES.
ALL THESE ZONES AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN VERY LIBERAL IN
ALLOWING PARKING ON PROPERTIES, ON RIGHTS-OF-WAY, AND THE
CUSTOMERS THAT GO THERE PAY, AND THEY PAY WHO?
THE HOMEOWNER.
WE HAVE NOT GOT INVOLVED IN THAT AND WE WON'T.
I AM GOING TO TELL YOU ANOTHER THING. IF THIS COUNCIL WANTED TO
REALLY GET TOUGH AND REALLY TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT OTHER CITIES
THAT HAVE BOWLS, STADIUMS OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, SOME OF THEM
DON'T EVEN PERMIT PARKING ON THE CITY STREETS.
WE DO.
SO WE DO THINGS TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
EVIDENTLY YOU HAVE A PERSONAL THING WITH 407 HIMES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE RENTING IT, MAYBE THE NFL PRECLUDES YOU
FROM THAT WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE BY THE ORGANIZATION
THAT DID THE NEGOTIATING FOR THE SUPER BOWL.
WE DID NOT.
THIS IS A STANDARD THING THAT WAS DONE.
IT WAS THERE.
AND THE SECOND SUPER BOWL, THE FIRST SUPER BOWL THAT WAS HELD



HERE, WHAT WAS IT, '86 COMES TO MY MIND.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CORRECT.
SOMEWHERE IN THE '80s.
'84.
A COUPLE OF YEARS OFF.
I HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS OFF MY WHOLE LIFE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT'S THE SAME STANDARD THAT WE DID IN '84
AND THAT WE ARE DOING NOW IN 2000.
I DIDN'T NEGOTIATE THE DEAL. IN FACT I DIDN'T EVEN VOTE FOR THE
STADIUM.
AND I WILL NEVER GO TO THE STADIUM BECAUSE MY MONEY, I SPEND
WHAT I WANT.
AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT RICH THAT GO TO THE STADIUM, ALL
OF THEM, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF MY FRIENDS THAT HAVE LESS THAN I
DO AND THEY GOT A CREDIT CARD THAT THEY BORROW MONEY TO GO SEE
THE GAMES.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
BRAVO.
THAT'S THEIR PRIVILEGE TO DO THAT.
IT'S THEIR MONEY.
THEY CAN SPEND IT HOWEVER THEY WANT.
I WOULDN'T DO THAT BUT THEY DO.
I CAN'T CRITICIZE THEM FOR THAT.
IT'S NOT A GAME OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS.
IT'S A GAME IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY AND YOU GO.
YOU MAY DRIVE A 1927 CAR BUT YOU GO TO THE GAME.
YOU MAY NOT HAVE ELECTRICITY IN YOUR HOUSE BUT YOU GO TO THE
GAME.
THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
THEY ARE THE ONES WORKING ON.
THEY ARE THE ONES RAISING THEIR FAMILY, NOT I.
I AIN'T PAYING FOR THAT.
>>> I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
THE LINE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT APPEARS THAT THIS -- WE DIDN'T
EVEN GET A COPY OF THIS, AND THEY DIDN'T REVEAL IT UNTIL 30 DAYS
PRIOR.
IT WASN'T DISCUSSED A YEAR AGO.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVEN'T SET UP THAT COMMITTEE.
THIS COUNCIL DEALS ONLY WITH FACTS THAT COME BEFORE IT.
>>> DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS KIND OF --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU WEREN'T NOTICED, WHAT ARE YOU DOING
HERE TODAY?
>>> I WAS NOT NOTICED.
I WAS INVESTIGATING THIS.
FROM THE FLOOR: THE CITY --.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M TELLING YOU, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
THE NEXT TIME I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE ROOM.
FROM THE FLOOR: VERY WELL.
>>> THAT'S MY POSITION REALLY.
IT WAS VERY LATE.
AND CHANGING OF THE RULES.



AND WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL ABOUT AND TRYING TO INTERPRET THIS,
THIS LATE, THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT ABOUT IT.
IN THE MEANTIME WE HAVE DONE WHATEVER WAS DONE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FULLY.
YES, MA'AM, MRS. GRIMES.
>>GINA GRIMES: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT ANY PROPERTY ANYWHERE WITHIN
ANY OF THE CLONE ZONE AREA, IF YOU ARE APPROACHING A USE DURING
THE CLEAN ZONE TIME PERIOD THAT YOU ARE NOT OTHERWISE ALLOWED TO
CONDUCT ANY OTHER TIME, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED OR
PROHIBITED FROM CONDUCTING IT DURING THE CLEAN ZONE TIME PERIOD.
THE UNDERLYING USE IS IF YOU OWNED RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY,
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SELL MERCHANDISE FROM YOUR
PROPERTY.
EVEN IF THE SUPER BOWL WASN'T GOING TO OCCUR AT RAYMOND JAMES
AND EVEN IF THE CLEAN ZONE ORDINANCE WASN'T ADOPTED, YOU STILL
COULD NOT SELL MERCHANDISE FROM YOUR RESIDENTIALLY ZONED
PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S NOT BEING CHANGED OR AFFECTED IN ANY WAY BY THIS
ORDINANCE.
THE USES THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CONDUCT ON YOUR PROPERTY ARE
THE SAME.
AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT
USAGE YOU MAY CONDUCT.
YOUR ZONING CONTROLS THAT.
AND THAT SAME ZONING IS GOING TO REMAIN IN EFFECT DURING THE
CLEAN ZONE TIME PERIOD.
[SOUNDING GAVEL]
I AM NOT GOING TO DEBATE THE USUAL YOU.
YOU HAD YOUR TIME.
YOU CAN DISCUSS IT WITH HER.
YOU CAN ASK HER TO STEP OUTSIDE AND I WELCOME THAT.
BUT I HAVE TO KEEP A FORUM AND A DIRECT THE WAY WE HANDLE THE
MEETING.
SO I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY POSITION.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT WITH HER AT ANY TIME YOU LIKE, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER WHO HAS NOT
SPOKEN BEFORE?
ITEM 7 PAGE 2.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: MOVE TO CLOSE.
>>SHAWN HARRISON: SECOND.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>>ROSE FERLITA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE DECEMBER UGH NATURING A
PORTION OF TAMPA AS A CLEAN ZONE IN ORDER TO REGULATE ACTIVITIES
FROM JANUARY 27, 2001 TO JANUARY 29, 2001, IN PREPARATION FOR
HOSTING THE 2001 NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE SUPER BOWL DESIGNATES
GEE OH GRAPHIC BOUNDARIES, DATES AND TIMES FOR THE CLEAN ZONE,
REGULATING AND PROHIBITING TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, TENTS,
SIGNAGE AND COMMERCIAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITY IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY,
PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS AND PERMITS, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES,
REGULATING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS,
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING CONFLICTS, AND PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. FERLITA.
SECOND BY MRS. ALVAREZ.
FURTHER DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]
>> MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A PORTION OF TAMPA AS
A "CLEAN ZONE" IN ORDER TO REGULATE ACTIVITIES FROM JANUARY 17,
TUNER 2001 THROUGH JANUARY 29, TUNE 1 IN PREPARATION FOR HOSTING
THE TUNE 1 NATIONAL SUPER BOWL DECEMBER UGH NATURING GEOGRAPHIC
BOUNDARIES, DATES AND TIMES FOR THE CLEAN ZONE REGULATING AND
PROHIBITING TEMPORARY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, TENTS, SIGNAGE, AND
COMMERCIAL PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, PROVIDING
FOR INSPECTIONS AND PERMIT, PENALTIES, REGULATING ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE FOR DEFINITIONS
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING CONFLICTS, AND REPEALING
AND EFFECTIVE DATES.
>>MARY ALVAREZ: SECOND.
[MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY]

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